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This is my first OP to Reddit, sorry I suck at it. Can anyone post a better OP about this story? Maybe one with a pic of the foreskin jewelry and the mother's statement (how proud she is). Mutilation Watch has screenshots of the mother's FB post where I found the story.
/r/MensRights17/06/16 03:17 AM
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Should be whatever the couple agrees to. There is no one correct answer to force onto everyone.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 11:05 PM
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Great!
/r/MensRights16/06/16 10:53 PM
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Over at Mutilation Watch, they have a screenshot of the FB post/pic and can help.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 10:14 PM
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circumcision is a pretty big mens rights issue. She is wearing part of his penis around her neck.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 10:09 PM
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from what I understand, the Scandinavian counties have quite a different economy and population compared to the USA. So what works in Scandinavia will not work in USA. For example, Scandinavian counties have more natural resources and lower population. The government can afford to pay people to have babies as they need to replenish their population. We don't have that situation in the USA. We are capitalists. We have companies which start out small and aspire to become large and the best at what…
/r/MensRights10/08/15 01:15 AM
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what if you are a man not planning to have any children. Then you are in fact paying for everyone else's parental leave.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 12:37 AM
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Kalyssa, who pays? the government or the employer?
/r/MensRights10/08/15 12:19 AM
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In America it is all the same. I dont know if MRA who post this stuff are outside of the USA or dont understand current policy. The current policy in the USA is the Family Medical Leave Act. Non-paid leave up to 12 weeks for both mothers and fathers when a baby is born. Most companies cannot afford to offer paid leave. If they do, great, but I dont think it should be mandatory.
/r/MensRights10/08/15 12:18 AM
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Well thanks for the link. I wish it had more context. If it is true, I think indigenous tribes believed there would be benefit to this in aiding childbirth, but I doubt there actually was.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 07:17 PM
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Still. not possible. It is not possible to expand anything that would make the birth canal wider for childbirth. Unless you are speaking about breaking bones. Think of the vagina as lips and mouth. Cutting your lips does not make your mouth bigger. It sounds like you made the statement up (about FGM being used to ease childbirth) without having any understanding of anatomy.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:48 PM
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You had me at everything except "making the 'canal' larger" as a biologists and someone who studies anatomy and physiology, I dont think this is possible.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 04:29 PM
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Can you please put his quote in context. Or are you referring to his comment about Megyn Kelly and "blood coming out of her eyes...wherever.." I am not sure he was referring to her period as moments later he said the same about a man. Is there some other quote you might be talking about?
/r/MensRights09/08/15 02:52 AM
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There are many factors and states have different mandatory timelines. The biggest factors are if there are kids, debt, if there is property to sell and if there will be disagreements. I would guess that if there were no kids and no property and no disputes, a divorce in most states could get done in 2 to 4 months. If there is property and kids, but everything is amicable it could take 6 to 12 months in most states. * Sometimes, if property needs to sell, the divorce can still go forward and fina…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:11 AM
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Your source doesn't prove anything. I have never seen any proof of what you are saying, but go ahead and believe what you want.
/r/MensRights27/07/15 05:32 AM
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You'll have to provide some sources. In my state a mother would get prosecuted for not following the parenting plan. If parents are in the same jurasdiction, it would only take a call to police if she did not return the kids on time. Show them the parenting plan and they would retrive the kids. Mothers have been put in jail.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 06:20 AM
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The article is by Dan Bell. Within the article Dan Bell references and quotes from several other articles. It's hard to keep straight.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 08:21 AM
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Are you missing the details or just failing to mention them in all your rebuttals? The details you keep ignoring in my scenario is that the father wants to be involved, but the mother does not want him to be involved. The mother is not asking or expecting any child support, She can financially support the child on her own. You keep saying "let her." So are we in agreement that a mother can withhold paternal rights from a father who wants them as long as she supports the child on her own? If so, …
/r/MensRights23/07/15 02:52 AM
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Or, let me put it this way. Let's take Lebron James. He has the biological gifts which make him a great basketball player. I am not that gifted because biology is not fair. I am not that tall or physically coordinated so I could never win a NBA championship, but I would love to put his NBA champion trophy in my living room and I have emotionally supported him by cheering at his games. I even tweeted him a few times with some playing tips. Maybe him and I could share custody of the champ trophy. …
/r/MensRights22/07/15 04:01 AM
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Against the father's consent? What are you talking about. If it is her body, she can do what she wants with it, including remaining pregnant. Why would someone need consent from another person to do something with their own body? I think your reading comprehension is off. in the situation I am providing. The mother does not want, need, nor is she asking or expecting the father to pay any support. She wants to be the sole parent or maybe she wants to make all adoption decisions on her own. How wo…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 03:49 AM
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Paper abortion is contradictory to father's rights because, most MRA argue that it is "her body, her choice, her responsibility." Which implies that everything a woman chooses to do with her body belongs 100% to her. So the following slogan would also be true, that it is: "her body, her choice, her rights." So in cases where no prior agreement to have a child together has been made, and a woman accidentally gets pregnant. She could then do what she wants with the baby. Every decision would be he…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 02:36 AM
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No I am not. The situation I am speaking of is never married couples, perhaps casual relationships where no intent to have a child was agreed but an unplanned child was born. Some men would not want anything to do with the child in this situation, but some will. Since the mother never agreed to give him a child. She would not have to share with him.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 06:31 PM
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You have not convinced me that paper abortion is the best option or the "least unfair option" but you are entitled to your opinions and I appreciate the intelligent discussion. I am not surprised that you have been able to convince some feminist. They do not value fatherhood, so they would be fine with easily removing the father and they are fine with government handouts to single mothers and they are fine with abortion. Paper abortion gives men all benefits and no risk. If mothers choose not to…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 12:55 PM
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The best interest of the child doesn't outweigh everything. Suppose a judge was friends with a single mom who's struggling financially, and the judge decided it was in the best interest of her child if you, a random stranger, are forced to send her $1000 a month. Does the best interest of the child outweigh your personal rights? No. This most certainly does occur. Not exactly as you described but our government has decided that it is in the child's best interest for strangers to provide support.…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 05:35 AM
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Most people who argue for paper abortion use the slogan "her body, her choice, her responsibility." If someone has all the responsibility that would also mean they get all the rights. Men can never choose abortion, it will always be her sole choice because it is her body. Choosing NOT to have an abortion is also her sole choice because it is her body. So the following slogan would also apply: "Her body, her choice her rights." And that is just how mothers who want full legal authority over their…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 05:15 AM
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What do you mean by this? My logic is consistent, there's no backpedaling and no contradictions. Both people have the right to not become a parent if they don't want to be. Both people become legal parents with equal rights if they both decline to opt out. So far you have stated the way you want things to be. You have not attempted to explain your logic behind it. I think you will have a hard time logically explaining why men get to hold on to some of their rights if they want paternal rights ag…
/r/MensRights19/07/15 04:41 AM
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Legal Parental Surrender would in no way indicate that babies belong to their mother only. Having the choice to opt out of something does not mean that all men lose the ability to be opted in. That may be the way you want paper abortion to work, but I have never been convinced that the logic can work both ways. Convincing people will be the challenge as you will have to back peddle your logic to argue for women to be 100% responsible if they choose to go through with pregnancy yet they also have…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 10:45 PM
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If we forced women on to the front line I dont think wars would end. I think it would be a great opportunity for some other country or army comprised of all or mostly men to come in and woop our asses.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 09:13 PM
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No, its not "fair" but men and women have different biological characteristics which also aren't fair. In the roles of sex and reproduction they start off as biologically unequal. I know paper abortion is supported by most MRA's, but I am not one of them. Mostly because it would indicate that all babies belong to their mothers only. It would be a step back for father's rights. Is it fair that mothers are forced to share their baby's with the father since mother made all the choices and did all t…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 08:12 PM
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Take all police reports!!! If you do not already have them, remember it can take 5 business days to get copies. Also different police stations have differnt policies about giving out reports (it seems to be a matter of the individual working behind the counter's interpretation of the rules). This can be frustrating.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:51 AM
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Take absolutely all evidence with you to court. Talk slowly and only answer the questions that are asked. Don't talk too much,keep your statements simple and factual. People tend to quit listening when people go into long convoluted stories. I say this like your case will involve back-and forth Q&A , but really it will likely last a few seconds. Everytime I have gone to court it was much quicker and less involved then I thought. Dont be surprised if the judge only asks you one question, and then…
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:49 AM
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I have no idea why you are getting down voted for speaking the truth.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 07:19 AM
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In the USA, usually neither maternity leave nor paternity is paid. What the USA has is the FMLA which is unpaid leave for up to 120 days (or something like that, I dont feel like fact checking). There may be a few companies which may offer a bit of paid leave, but it is not mandatory that they do. I do not know any mothers or fathers who had paid maternity or paternity leave. Usually they just save up vacation and sick days or take it as unpaid leave under the FMLA. So your situation is normal.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 07:06 AM
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Sorry, but you are naive about the legal system. I assume you are in the USA. You cannot have a "contract" that agrees that you are not bound to state and federal laws, or that says your private contract is superior to state or federal laws. You cannot circumvent the system. The best thing to do is see a family law attorney to write up an agreement. He cannot go above the law but you can acknowledge and agree to certain things now so that they are not disputed later.
/r/MensRights14/07/15 02:45 AM
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I'm actually very offended by this.
/r/MensRights14/07/15 02:21 AM
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Usually a paternity agreement is filed with the courts and is considered the legal document required to add the father to the birth certificate. I would start by finding out if you are on the birth certificate. Do you have a copy of the paternity agreement you signed? If so, I would look it over and see what it says. Do you have a parenting plan filed with the courts. If you have a legal obligation to pay child support, you definately would have one.
/r/MensRights13/07/15 11:06 PM
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If you are not on birth certificate than you do not have any legal rights. So no, you cannot sign waivers or legal documents on behalf of the child. So what was the purpose of signing the paternity agreement? Do you want to get your name on the birth certificate? If the courts have the paternity agreement, I am pretty sure they add you to the birth certificate. Are you sure you have not been added to it?
/r/MensRights13/07/15 08:50 PM
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I asked if the parenting plan actually says the mother has SOLE LEGAL custody. So I need some more info to fully understand. Are you saying you do not have any court ordered overnights? Is this in the USA, and if so, did you go through the court system and have a parenting plan? If the child is ordered to stay with you every other weekend or something like that, then you have joint physical custody, and the mother is the PRIMARY custodial parent, not the sole custodial parent. What does your par…
/r/MensRights13/07/15 08:42 PM
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Bail. Dont stick your dick in crazy. she has all the signs of a girl who could ruin your life.
/r/MensRights13/07/15 07:50 PM
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What do you mean your ex has sole legal custody? Look at your parenting plan, does it actually say she has sole legal custody? I ask because usually parents have joint legal custody unless there is a history of abuse or the parents cant agree on anything. If she actually has sole legal custody then only she can sign consent forms.
/r/MensRights13/07/15 07:15 PM
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All states I know of say it must be a parent who drops off the baby at a safe haven location. Although they would most likely never know, but technically it would be illegal for your mistress to do it.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:46 PM
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In the United States, the parent dropping off the newborn does not have to be seen or identified. In the fire station I worked at, an abandoning parent would ring a buzzer and have ample time to get away without being seen. However, if we happen to see them, we are specifically trained to try to offer them help, but not to force them in any way, so if they were to run off, we would let them. Our main concern would be the child. Many hospitals also have a similar protocol. I think my state only h…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:25 PM
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Here it is. His wife died shortly after giving birth to their ninth child. He dropped all nine kids at a safe haven, the oldest was 17. After this incident the state changed their laws to only accomodate newborns up to 30 days old. Soon afterwards the man became a father of twins with his new girlfriend. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/30/father-who-ditched-nine-kids-via-safe-haven-law-has-twins-on-way.html
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:47 PM
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yes, there was a man in the midwest (Nebraska, I think) who used the safe haven law to abandon all of his children after his wife died. He had many kids with the oldest being about 12. He was within the law. I will try and google the case. But each state makes their own safe haven laws.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:36 PM
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You are thinking of safe haven laws. You need to read the Safe Haven laws of the state you wish to do this in. If the genders were reveresed the mother would have to follow the same laws. Most safe haven laws must be done within a certain amount of time after birth. I think a 7 day old would qualify under most or all state's safe haven laws. But once a parent is the sole parent, like in the event of death to the other parent, the remaining parent could just go through the regular adoption proces…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:33 PM
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I just googled California and Montana. Everything I read indicates the contrary and specifically says an unwed father must sign an affidavit of paternity. If you think otherwise, please give a link or source. Here is one of my sources: http://www.childsup.ca.gov/resources/establishpaternity/fileadeclarationofpaternity.aspx
/r/MensRights08/07/15 04:39 PM
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Then women will say they shouldn't have to share children that they bear alone. All children will belong to their mothers unless the mothers grant permission to the fathers. It will be a step backwards for father's rights, although I do see your point.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 03:56 PM
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(In the USA) There are at least two affidavits usually written in small print above the signature lines of a birth certificate forms. If mother and father are married, the mother signs an affidavit stating that she is legally married to father and must list what county or country the marriage is registered in . If they are married, the father's name is put on form and he signs. Witnessed by hospital staff. There is a different place on birth certificate application for unmarried fathers. If pare…
/r/MensRights08/07/15 12:31 AM
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source? In my state and in every state I know of, she can't.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 08:09 PM
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In response to item #3: I see your point, but during labor, many questions are asked out loud and need a quick response. Many of these questions have to do with the mother's personal sex life. There are people she trusts with this information and people she doesn't. While she may trust her sister or best friend, she may not trust her ex. Same thing about whom she allows to see her naked and in embarrassing positions. During labor, the mother is a patient, and she gets to decide who she shares th…
/r/MensRights07/07/15 06:57 PM
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I have had 5 different insurance policies in 10 years. They have all covered vasectomies. Unless you have a major medical only policy, they should cover it.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 06:41 PM
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not to mention that during delivery many personal questions are asked of her about sexual partners, STD's, past pregnancies, etc. SHe may want to keep that info private.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 05:08 PM
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I dont have any issue with the delivery room as women have a right to medical privacy, but I think it should be mandatory that fathers are informed of the birth. I even think it should be mandatory that all possible fathers be informed of pregnancy after 6 months.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 05:06 PM
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I agree with genderNeutralLanguag. This is not something for the MRA as a group, but individuals can decide for themselves. I really dont care how people run their households, but marriage is a special legal bond. You can elect one person to be "special" but when you start electing lots of people to be "special" then they are not really that special. Sorry about using the word "special" I can think of any better word at the moment. Who would want to be legally bound with so many people? Not a go…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:15 PM
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FYI - pregnant women's ultrasounds and most female issue ultrasounds have to be done on a full bladder to get the best view of female parts and baby parts. Women are instructed to drink 20 ounces of water 1 hr prior to appointment. This means they suffer with the tech pushing on a full bladder until the tech tells them they can use the bathroom. I dont think there is any sexist intent, they just want female patients to have quick and immediate access to the bathroom.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 04:54 AM
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IMO, non distressed behavior by Emma S shows she was not effected much by the event. She was able to resume normal life and normal relationships. So even if the sexual act was non-consentual, it could have easily been a misunderstanding of how she wanted sex at that particular moment (The p>v sex between Paul and Emma was consentual. Then he switched to anal sex. she had anal sex with him in the past and she writes about liking anal sex). Sort of like accidentally giving someone regular coffee, …
/r/MensRights02/07/15 05:33 PM
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from your link: "The team from Liverpool John Moores University agreed that the figures, drawn from studies of men and women seeking proof of paternity, might be exaggerated because uncertainty over fatherhood is usually the reason for tests."
/r/MensRights02/07/15 05:07 PM
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Fathers have paternity leave in the United States. It falls under The Family Medical Leave Act, just like maternity leave. It is unpaid, just like maternity leave.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 02:29 AM
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Short answer: yes. In the USA you need to go through the courts to establish paternity rights which includes getting your name on birth certificate. Do this sooner rather than later, otherwise the mother could claim you abandoned the child and you could be denied. Each state is a little different. Consult a family law attorney in your area.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 02:25 AM
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Read the article. It is about one couples experience, they were told at the clinic it was "a law" about needing spouse's permission, but the wife looked in to it and found out there is no such law. Women have reported this same experience when trying to get tubal ligation surgery. If anyone runs in to these rare doctors who request spousal permission, for vasectomy or tubal ligation just find another doctor.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 10:52 PM
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No you dont.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 06:33 PM
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This "wifes permission" thing has been debunked so many times before. There is no law. I you still beleive there is, please provide a citation.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 06:32 PM
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I assumed the OP was speaking of when mother and father are not together. Any father on birth certificate can get paternity test when the child is in his custody. If father is not on birth certificate, it gets tricky and can vary from state to state and involves a court order. if mothers and fathers are not together at birth, the court will order a paternity tests if father requests it and mother is asking court for child support order.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 07:32 AM
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Womens BC options also have side effects and health risks. As a couple, it seems reasonable to me that she take care of birth control during the early years and he take care of birth control during the later years.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 07:07 AM
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This "wives permission" has been discussed before. There are no laws ANYWHERE!!! (not in any state) Doctors can make their own rules. So some have stipulated that they need spouses permission (women have reported this for tubal ligation as well). It is very rare, but if it happens to you just find another doctor.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 06:58 AM
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No one should be forced to get any surgery or to alter their body in any way. Everyone is in charge of their own body!! Maybe I am mis-reading you, but I think you are trying to shame the women just because she wants to persuade her husband to get a vasectomy. Persuading is not the same as forcing. I would say the same if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 06:53 AM
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@sanderson1650: If you read over the case you will see that two women (Emma and accuser #2) both had sexual relations with Paul spanning over several months. In Emma's case, based on her texts it seems she was aware that it was a casual relationship - but it also seemed like she was in love with Paul. There is not as much evidence in the media about the nature of his relationship with accuser #2, but it has been said that accuser #2 is bitter because she found out Paul was having sex with other …
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:21 PM
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@sanderson1650: you should read up on the case from a more objective source. The others did not accuse him of rape, they accused him of sexual assault. Some reports indicate they did not know each other at the time of the alledged incidents, but were introduced by a mutual friend later; but other reports suggest they did know each other. At the very least they were in the same social groups, had mutual friends and were eventually introduced to eachother before they filed reports. One thing they …
/r/MensRights07/06/15 07:12 PM
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So where is the proof you have been roofied? What would be the motive? If you really beleive you were, then go to your doctor and get a blood test. but like others are saying, it sounds like you just had too much to drink.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 05:58 AM
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circ is permanent. ear piercing is not permanent. As soon as a child is old enough to form an opinion, they can take earrings out and the hole will close up, if that's what they want. This is the most compelling reason as to why they are not similar. This is also why there are not thousands of adults complaining that their ears were pierced against their will as children. The ear lobes have very little function compared to the foreskin, and poking a pin sized hole does not alter function. All th…
/r/MensRights28/04/15 05:52 AM
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this story is from several years ago. I cant remember all the details, but I remember after learning more of the facts and her side of the story it was apparent that he was likely full of shit. The case was thrown out. She proved that he knew and complied and had even shot her up with the fertility drugs.
/r/MensRights27/09/14 06:53 AM
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I am an adoptee...Just want to add a few things. You only get one shot of signing the document as you want it, so give it some thought. I recommend at least making a push for a DNA test at birth. There is a chance this is NOT your kid. If it were me, I would want to know for sure, Your future wife may want to know, your future kids may want to know, your parents may want to know. and I am sure the kid and adoptive parents would appreciate the health history. Also think about the degree of openne…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 03:39 AM
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I agree. There is no reason for a man not be forthcoming of his intentions. Otherwise it seems like men are just trying to trick women into having sex with them with women taking all the risk.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:05 AM
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I think pre-sex contracts will be the next logical step if paper abortion for men becomes legal.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:03 AM
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This is not an ordinary conflict between pro-life and pro-choice. This has nothing to do with abortion. Some of you guys here are the only ones making it about abortion. MRAs like me see it as a feminist entitlement issue. This relates to men's rights because it shows the flaws in feminism: free speech for feminism, but not for anyone else violence and theft is acceptable for a feminist to use when she doesn't like what a non threatening person says. feminists can act childish, are above the law…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:41 AM
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What should be done if the father keeps trying to estbalish a relationship with the child, like showing up at softball games, telling everyone he is the father, etc, but yet still does not accept any financial responsibility. What should be done about grandparents, aunts uncles and cousins, who know htey are related to the child? What if siblings attend the same school, etc?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 06:37 PM
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I read through your post history. You indicate your mom was a drug addict. My guess is, she may have been self medicating for depression after your dad died, maybe she was overwhelmed and needed help with mental health. I think there is alot more to her situation then her just deciding to opt out of parenthood.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:22 PM
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Adopted adult here. There is a differnece between abandonement, which does seem like "fuck you", compared to transfering parental rights to an accepting party, to make sure the child has everything he or she needs. Adoption is the transfering of parental rights. I praise my birth mother because she chose to give me life even though she was in a tough situation. However, a man who financially aborts would have a hard time dating afterwards if he disclose it, I would think
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:07 PM
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Via abortion women can only opt out of pregnancy, not parenthood. That makes sense because only women deal with pregnancy. Opting for pregnancy and parenthood are two different things. Then people always bring up adoption/safe haven. We have to look at how willing society is going to accept the increase in adoption rates if it becomes the default. If there are not enough private homes for unwanted children, then taxpayers pay for this. It is cheaper for taxpayers to have the child stay with pare…
/r/MensRights05/04/13 08:14 AM
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this outlook is contrary to fathers rights. If we use this logic then when a woman wants a child all to herself without the father, and he wants fatherhood. Then we will say too bad. She offered sex, not parenthood. There would be no way for unwed fathers to gain parental rights unless the mother granted them to him. He would be at the mercy of her control. edit: i am responding to jollymcfatts and akiri and their logic of offering sex, but not parenthood
/r/MensRights05/04/13 07:54 AM
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to those that are saying that men who support financial abortion are not trying to trick a woman, then I suppose you would be fine with a pre-sex contract about accidental pregnancy. That way a woman could choose what type of man she has sex with: one that is willing to share the risk, or one that is not. Then we would be back at square one as currently we have an unwritten contract that men will be share parental responsibilities, yet men are still choosing to have sex with women. I point this …
/r/MensRights05/04/13 07:49 AM
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My reading comprehension is a little different than others. He said nothing to his friends after the incident. His only "witnesses" corroborating the story about her admitting to forcing him into sex are his parents. They both agree that he verbally discussed stopping, she claims he never pushed her off and after they discussed stopping he continued. This story is quite old. Another source indicated that the police have no recollection of him coming forward. No police report was ever made. This …
/r/MensRights04/03/13 03:00 AM
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In another article about this , the police indicated they had no record of his call. No police report was ever filed. SO it is hard to say wether he really contacted dpolice or not.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 02:52 AM
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My reading comprehension is a little different than yours. He said nothing to his friends after the incident. His only "witnesses" corroborating the story about her admitting to forcing him into sex are his parents. They both agree that he verbally discussed stopping, she claims he never pushed her off and after they discussed stopping he continued. He is claiming something about how she had sex with another guy that same night. I did not read anything about her admitting or agree with that stat…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 02:49 AM
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One. Fetus is not a child. Thus no obligations when sex occurs, it is just a part of the woman. If she wants to birth it, it is 100% of her responsibility. The problem with this logic is it infringes on fathers rights. You are basically saying that all babies fully belong to mothers since mothers make the decisions not to abort. fathers would only get rights to their children if the mothers allowed them.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 07:51 PM
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If you really beleive the child is important, then I suggest you advocate for a system tht allows the child to be cared for by both parents without any transfer of child support money.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 04:35 PM
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You are going to get downvoted if you keep talking like that. The men here want to believe they have no control and are victims. Women always get pregnant on purpose because they get rich. Don't you see all the rich single mothers? Seriously though, a pre-sex contract is what it would come down to if paper abortion became reality. A woman would just make you sign. You might be able to trick some too drunk slut to bang you without a pre-sex contract, but women like that have an even higher risk o…
/r/MensRights13/02/13 04:26 PM
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So far I have not seen anything that is too significant to cause alarm, and I am also unsure how you could know details about her and her employment agreement to be so sure there is sexism going on. Wait until you have been with the company over a year and you see a pattern of women getting paid more and getting more hours compared to men. A fifteen cents difference between two employees is not significant enough to bring on legal action. I would not even suggest verbally complaining at this poi…
/r/MensRights28/01/13 05:11 PM
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"...due to the nature of the laws..." So mothers not informing fathers of babies at Safehaven is due to laws? Which laws? so far you have not shown any proof of the laws you keep speaking about. I think it is due to nature. Woman have the fetus physically attached to them right up until birth. Fathers are able to intentionally abandon way before birth or they may leave before having a chance to be informed. A woman knows of every pregnancy and therefore maternity, but mothers do not always know …
/r/MensRights28/01/13 03:49 AM
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Do you have some link/source, or are you going off assumptions? Is there any case where a father claimed a baby and was denied support from the mother? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529597,00.htm Story above is of father using safe haven and explanation of Nebraska's law. Uses non-gender specific langauge, nothing about it being for mothers only.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 09:08 PM
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I am not sure about mothers not paying child support if a father claims child from Safe haven. I don't think a situation has come up yet. but I am pretty sure she would have to pay, as she should. The closest situation I know of from a father rescuing his child from safe haven is the Brandon Henry story. Mother abandoned baby in Italy. He flew to Italy and blocked adoption and now has legal custody. Mother should be paying support, but I don't know any details. Fathers have also dropped off newb…
/r/MensRights27/01/13 11:13 AM
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I hope he wins against the IVF clinic and the sperm bank. He will have an uphill battle. He will have to explain his signatures on documents. I know he says they are forged, but I am guesing they look genuine. They can certainly look for his handprints, if they investigate that far. He has to explain how they obtained his blood sample. In another article, he says he was tricked into giving it. He also added her onto his insurance as his wife. She claims it was to pay for the fertilty treatment, …
/r/MensRights25/11/12 10:10 PM
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There are other articles related to this story. It appears the man's story took off in the media. Probably because it was so shocking. The woman remained relatively quite. Her and her attorney eventually put out a story claiming the man's story to be totally false and she eventually won her case in court. Anyone can believe what they want. but here are the issues that I believe helped her case. His signature is on all documents at the fertility clinic. He claims they are forged, but I am guessin…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 05:35 PM
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He never proved his case, so I don't think any one involved believes she stole sperm. He is the one that claimed her as his wife to add her to his insurnace policy. He submitted his blood sample to the clinic. His insurance and credit card were billed months prior to conception, etc.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 05:12 PM
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It probably was dropped as durring her case, they proved that he was an active participant and aware of the fertility treatments.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 04:51 PM
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I don't know about this one. According to other articles, the girlfriend and the clinic say he was an active participant in the artificial conception and now he is just making stuff up. The clinic has his signature on all documents (he says it was forged) but they also billed his insurance and his credit card for expenses for a long time before conception and during the pregnancy. He had added his girlfriend to his insurance claiming her as his wife. They say he also shot her up with fertility i…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 04:41 PM
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None. One Nebraska father turned in nine kids. In other situations the mother may not be old enough to drive as it is assumed that often the mother is below the age of consent for sex or abortion.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 10:58 PM
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Fathers have blocked adoptions and have turned in their kids to safhaven as well as have claimed their kids from safe haven. Only abortion is exclusively a choice for women.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:57 PM
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Yes, but before you indicated it was pleasant, as you compared it to "eating cake".
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:54 PM
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The same way a woman can do the same, get pregnant and then use the get out of jail free card that is abortion. it is not really a get out of jail free card. Abortion comes with many costs. There are health risks, and permanent physical and emotional scars. Abortion influences a women's future fertility and health of future children (blood incompatible illnesses from abortion effect future fetuses). Also a woman has a limited number oppurtunities for reproductin compared to a man (1 egg/month co…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:50 PM
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Not really. the consequences of abortion and adoption are very unpleasant.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:34 PM
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Child support is not for mothers to negotiate. Child support belongs to the child. The mother's decisions cannot effect the amount of child support the child is entitled to recieve. This is very much in line with MRA beleifs.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:25 PM
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There are cases when an assumed father has petitioned the courts for a DNA test to prove he was the father after being denied fatherhood by the mother. The one case that stands out to me is when a man had an affair with a married women who became pregnant. She passed the child off as her husband's as she did not want to distrupt her marriage. He sued, got a DNA test and was awarded visitation.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:02 PM
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That would also mean that ALL babies belong 100% to their mothers and paternity can only be granted onto men/fathers if the mothers give it to them. This attitutde would be a huge step backwards for father's rights and is also contradictory to many MRA issues.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:56 PM
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Would that work in the opposite situation as well. Lets say he wants fatherhood, but the mother denies he is the father, even though he can prove they had a romantic relationship during the time of conception. Could mothers use your argument to withold paternity rights to fathers?
/r/MensRights26/08/12 05:03 PM
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The best solution would be one that promotes responsibility onto both partners to ensure there is no incentive to be dishonest about conception. I do not believe any male or female should enter a sexual relationship without accepting some risk of conception. Every adult knows that when sperm and eggs get close enough to touch, conception will occur. Giving a pro-life women a few hundered dollars to pay for half an a abortion is in no way sharing the risk equally as it does not take into account …
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:46 PM
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Men have sex, preventive measures fail. He only have responsibilities (pay for child support, that's all). Men have rights to. They don't have just responsibility when it comes to pregnancy and parenthood. They have the choice of fatherhood or adoption (adoption takes consent of both parents). The system needs improving, but father have received shared physical custody and many fathers enjoy their children even if they were unplanned. Most child support payments made by fathers do not even cover…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 04:40 PM
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Do you believe that men and woman face an equal amount of sexual assault and domestic violence? Yes, often women instigate. Women often go unpunished. There is biased in the legal system and social policy when it comes to F>M domestic violence and sexual assault. Do you believe that when a man gets a woman pregnant that he should have some legal authority on whether she takes the pregnancy to full term or not? Legally it can not happen, but morally she should. If a woman does take the pregnancy …
/r/MensRights20/08/12 02:45 AM
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I am familiar with the cases that make the news and the mess in Utah. It is a serious problem that needs fixing. However, I think it makes up a very small percentage of adoptions. I know fathers have more ways to block a mother from unilaterally adopting out a baby, then they have of being deceived out of their child. I like the suggestion of DNA samples of all adoptive babies and I would also more safeguards to keep things fair. It would be very difficult and be a specific situation for a mothe…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 01:10 AM
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You need to work on your reading comprehension if that's what you think I am saying. In my original post that you started disputing, I specifically said "Adoption is only an acceptable option because currently adoption is rare so we assume it is because the parents are making the choice in the best interest of the child". I assume most people on this thread can conclude that by "best interest of the child", I mean parents who are not capable of caring for their children. I leave room for flexibi…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 12:33 AM
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You seem to be arguing with me, I don't know why as I am not dismissing or disagreeing with any of your statements. So...your alternative is what Force capable parents to care for their children. If we have so many orphanages as you say, then adoption should never be allowed for convenience or unwilling parents. It should only be for parents who are a danger to their children or true orphans (parents are dead). Are you truly saying one can only be an orphan if both parents are deceased? My defin…
/r/MensRights14/08/12 07:25 PM
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I should clarify that I am speaking of newborns. Do we have thousands of newborns in orphanages in the United States? I am aware of the thousands of children in the foster system and our welfare system. It is my understanding that it is cheaper to keep children within their own family and provide welfare, or if parents are unfit then to place children in foster families, then it is to build orphanages. If we do have thousands of children in orphanages, and these are children with able parents (n…
/r/MensRights14/08/12 06:37 PM
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When a baby is dropped off at a Safe Haven, the case is highly publicized for the specific reason of allowing possible fathers to come forward to claim their child. There does need to be some sort of balance of giving a father a fair shot of claiming his child, but also realizing when a father has already abandoned or has no interest so adoption can move forward. If a father has not remained in contact with the mother, it is usually a sign that he doesn't care what she does if pregnancy occurs. …
/r/MensRights14/08/12 06:11 PM
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Adoption is only an acceptable option because currently adoption is rare so we assume it is because the parents are making the choice in the best interest of the child, and in modern countries we have enough adoptive parents to absorb the incoming babies. We do not have orphanages (partly due to our welfare system). If we ever got to the point where we had so many babies given up for adoption, that we had to build tax-payer funded orphanages, I think then we would do more to make sure it was in …
/r/MensRights14/08/12 05:20 PM
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But fathers can claim their babies from Safe Havens and then ask for child support from the mothers.
/r/MensRights14/08/12 05:08 PM
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usually the mother ha the unilateral right to do so this is a frequent MRA statement. Are there any links to back this up? What percentage of adoptions occur without the father's signature or knowledge without an effort to find him?
/r/MensRights14/08/12 04:54 PM
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A woman has no choice other than to deal with pregnancy.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 07:28 PM
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...when they can abort, adopt out or abandon.....So no, women aren't forced to be equally responsible Actually biology dictates that woman take on FULL responsibility in those options. In abortion the male does nothing, but her abortion still absolves him from the unwanted pregnancy, in adoption and abandonment the female goes thru nine months of pregnancy and then the birth. She takes on the physical and emotional impact for nine months (and some physical/health changes are permanent) . But go …
/r/MensRights27/07/12 04:37 PM
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And by the same reasoning the man didn't help create a child, they helped create a fetus. It is the mother's decision alone that led to the fetus becoming a child. A woman cannot make a child without a man, everyone knows that. To pretend otherwise is silly. An attitude like this would also take away from fathers rights. How can MRAs take two opposing stances: (1) that only mothers make children so they should have all rights/responsibilities (when discussing legalized abandonment) (2) that chil…
/r/MensRights26/07/12 07:42 PM
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