itstheuptowndown Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance. I'm already annoyed with wherever this bs is going. Blackmail (extortion) is illegal. Telling someone to kill themselves isn't blackmail. It's speech. And the threshold to turn speech into a viable weapon is very very high.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/25 09:01 PM
1	Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance. Samesies with women treating men badly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 09:35 PM
0	Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance. It's literally not a criminal action. Immoral, of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 09:34 PM
2	Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance. Why would we count suicide from divorce?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/25 11:08 PM
45	Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance. And yet, even if what you're saying is true and men are taught to be nice to women abd women to be mean to men, its not working. Apparently, men are beating and killing their partners despite their loving, innocent socialization. Make it make sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/25 02:32 AM
1	Female bodies are respected more than male bodies unless your circumcision was done to you after age 5, without anesthesia, possibly in front of your whole community, eliminating any chance of sexual pleasure and/or ruining your body's ability to function normally (expel bodily fluids), stop comparing it to FGM. There's almost no chance your situation compares. When women are circumcised it is qualitatively different from men. I would assume you didn't know that and are making comparisons based on the word alone. But you also just said assault,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:34 PM
1	Female bodies are respected more than male bodies This is all because you hate yourself? Why are women a part of this? Men as a social group do worship their penises. It's in the architecture, it's everywhere. This is not a point I need to prove. And you're half right. When men are objectified, which I think is what you're trying to argue, they end up with hurt feelings, variations of embarrassment and shame. When women are objectified, they have those same feelings AND end up harassed, assaulted, and sometimes killed BY men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 11:29 PM
2	When mothers murder their own children, they are charged less seriously than other forms of homicide. This is because women are babied by society. "Chances are," i.e. you're guessing without evidence or even any particular anecdotal knowledge. Cool cool cool	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 07:04 PM
3	When mothers murder their own children, they are charged less seriously than other forms of homicide. This is because women are babied by society. I'm not going to doxx myself to prove a point. And 2. The thinking on a particular case is privileged info that could get me disbarred if I revealed. I'm not risking my career for a Reddit shitposter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 07:03 PM
3	When mothers murder their own children, they are charged less seriously than other forms of homicide. This is because women are babied by society. I was a lawyer on the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 02:05 PM
1	Female bodies are respected more than male bodies Even if all your allegations are true, what are the damages when women talk about men this way versus when men talk about women this way? And if there are damages when women talk about men this way, would women not talking about men this way mitigate or eliminate those harms? Or do men have some role in decentering their own dicks? That last question was rhetorical. Men have historically centered their power in their penises. Small dick energy is cultural shorthand for insecurity based on the wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 01:35 PM
8	When mothers murder their own children, they are charged less seriously than other forms of homicide. This is because women are babied by society. I don't have enough info on infanticide laws (seems like you don't either); I'll let other commenters set you straight. But I've worked on cases for women who received life sentences for the death of their children, EVEN WHEN there was credible evidence it was an accident. So, your logic doesn't hold.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 12:40 PM
1	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? You've yet to say anything of substance here. Haven't made a single intellectual or pseudo-intellectual point. But it's my fault for responding, I suppose 🤷‍♀️I should know better	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/25 03:42 AM
1	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? It's you that doesn't get it. He was quippy, sure. But wrong. I was hoping he'd actually give a thoughtful response to fill in or at least acknowledge his obvious logical gaps before assuming the "red pill man" didn't know what he was talking about. He didn't. Go read an actual book on this subject instead of other people's Reddit posts, and then you'll understand	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/25 03:31 AM
1	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? It's hard to have meaningful conversations with people whose words have no meaning. DEI means something specific. It does not mean what Mick427 vaguely suggests it means, and his answers make it clear that DEI is not even clearly defined to him; it's just anyone he thinks "shouldn't" have things he couldn't get himself. The financial aid/DEI conflation is telling--both stupid and bigoted. Implying every "diverse" student is somehow getting an education they didn't pay for and thus don't deserve.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/25 03:12 AM
0	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? This is nonsensical. But thanks for answering my questions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 07:07 PM
0	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? So if Im a woman who received no financial aid, what does that make me? And what is the point of identifying anyone as "dei" if nearly everyone is "dei"? The term really seems to have no meaning whatsoever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 04:42 AM
0	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? What does financial aid have to do with DEI? Y'all cling to your hate of DEI to make you feel better and have no idea what it means. People without financial means get financial aid. Being a "diverse" candidate and getting financial aid are not indicative of the other. Unless your argument is that anyone is "DEI" unless they're straight AND white AND cis AND men AND native born AND wealthy, which means that at most only like.... 5 to 10% of people AREN'T DEI hires/graduates. And at the minority,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 08:20 PM
1	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? My candor was a mistake. He was very smart, no doubt. He graduated with honors, but the students below Latin honors aren't technically ranked. It was ostensibly pass/fail system and people didn't really share their grades freely. My undergrad was another Ivy; his was a (decent) state school. He said he did poorly in high school, and didn't care about college, but tested well. I was the better candidate. It wasn't DEI. And, as so many of y'all loser men like to point out, more women are in colleg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 12:30 PM
2	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? I (a woman) went to an Ivy League graduate program where I dated a classmate a very smart, charming man, who on several occasions brought up that I went to a "better" undergrad than him when he was drunk. It was always completely unrelated to the conversation, but it clearly bothered him even if we ended up at the same place (where frankly he was getting better grades than me). Also, on dating apps, I get more engagement when my undergrad (not grad school) is displayed; and I've had straight mal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 04:24 AM
3	Liberal women often increasingly critical of men who voted democrat in the recent U.S. presidential election? Take a back seat because he was VP-nom and she was the Presidential-nom... Unclear what your example is supposed to mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/25 06:24 PM
2	Men have little incentive or reason to be a Feminist in 2025 Exploitation and slavery are (should be) universally bad things. I don't know what moral or ethical compass says that using other human beings for your own ends without regard for their suffering is okay, except white supremacy that allowed chattel slavery in America for centuries. So maybe I'm speaking to the wrong crowd. If you condone slavery, then there are no objections to point 6. I actually don't know anyone who "applauds" abortions, but they are medical procedures that save lives. Pregna…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 01:35 PM
–	Men have little incentive or reason to be a Feminist in 2025 There are various waves of feminism for this reason. But also, if men can do it on their own so the principle doesn't matter, why also argue that women should be interested in fixing the male loneliness problem (which is significantly less for men who disclaim toxic masculinity and learn to communicate and regulate their emotions in a healthy way)? All political groups are fighting for people they don't know. Also, it's highly unlikely (not impossible) that a man has no woman who has ever cared …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:16 AM
2	Women live life on easy mode. More importantly, not backed up by "tons of studies." It's propounded by one research duo, and says, basically, you can't trust that women have it bad because actually people tend to think women are pretty and nice, and men are bad and mean. Both reductive and convenient. Being pretty and nice doesn't mitigate harms. And certainly exacerbates some of it because people love to punch down to make themselves feel powerful, e.g., crimes against children and animals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 12:21 PM
3	Women live life on easy mode. That's an older stat. Laws/policies, unionizing, and transparent information exchanges have almost certainly changed that number. And obviously it depends on the industry, race, age, etc. But there is a lot of evidence that generally women are making less than men when comparing similar qualifications and job duties. And there is no evidence that I've seen that men are making LESS than women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 12:08 PM
11	Women live life on easy mode. I asked you for the studies. I studied sociology, and literally none of this is true. But you are so confident. I'm happy to read studies. This other "clear example" is unfortunate but just another anecdote. I too can give you dozens of news reports about unfair treatment of women, stranger rapes that took place, sexual harassment, the glass ceiling, marital rape, the beauty standard (the media famously does NOT tell women they are perfect; it tells them they CAN be, if they buy products. That's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 03:50 AM
6	Women live life on easy mode. Can you provide real sources for anything you said? Not anecdotes from whatever distorted reality you're living in--actual studies and stats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 03:31 AM
1	The patriarchy isn't real Abortions are not the result of irresponsible sexual pleasure. They're a medical procedure necessary for a bunch of reasons. And the reason to have one only matters to the person having the abortion. It's no one else's business.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 01:09 AM
1	The patriarchy isn't real Electronics engineer who did not ace biology and certainly not philosophy. "When" life begins is not certain, and prioritizing lives is more complex than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 04:06 AM
1	The patriarchy isn't real That's not how science works, hon. Those aren't women or even girls, which requires they are born. And if you want to weigh the lives of actual women and girls (who breathe air, feel pain, exist, have social connections and relationships, memories, desires, senses of humor, intelligence, etc.) to their unborn fetus, you can personally make that odd choice but it has nothing to do with me or, frankly, logic and reality. Deprogramming someone like you is a task I'm not willing to take on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/25 01:03 PM
1	The patriarchy isn't real It literally doesn't, especially when it's legal and not done in a basement or some shit. But thanks for playing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/25 05:17 AM
2	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not A transaction occurs when an exchange is complete. It cannot be both ongoing and a transaction. It could be a series of repetitive and unequal transactions, but what then requires people to return to the same person for the next transaction? If it were truly a transaction, you could interchange the person because what you want is love or respect, regardless of from whom it is acquired. That's not how love or respect or care work. They are exchanged. They are not transacted. ETA: It's also not tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 02:32 PM
2	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not I'm focusing on what words mean. You're trying to make them mean something else. No one is going to fight you if you say: relationships require mutual exchange and effort. But it is not true that they are transactional. This is the idea of all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Transactions are a type of exchange, yes. They do not mean all exchanges are transactions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 02:28 PM
2	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not But they aren't the same either. You're the one trying to argue they are. ETA: The difference is the ongoing part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 01:59 PM
2	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not The simple definition of the word transact is not about"mutual exchange." It's about business, management, and/or completion ("to carry to completion"). A transaction based relationship is complete at each exchange. A prostitute has transactional relationships. A mother does not. A friend should not. You're conflating concepts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 01:54 PM
3	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not I think you're conflating mutual benefit and transaction. They're terms with different meanings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 01:46 PM
2	Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or Not What I've noticed about this subreddit is an unrigorous oversimplification of a concept , often based only on assumed meanings of words. We all (should) agree that it is ideal that both parties to a relationship get something out of the relationship, whether it occurs simultaneously or not. A friend offers support when it's needed and deserves support when they need it, too. The mutual ongoing exchange of love, respect, money, companionship, or whatever is what makes a relationship not a transac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/25 01:44 PM
0	The patriarchy isn't real Why do you only cite to Reddit? That doesn't seem wrong to you? I'm not even going to read your comment. If this isn't the most obvious confirmation bias...	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 04:15 PM
1	The patriarchy isn't real Used Forbes to cite the dates and statutes. You can double check that yourself if it seems fishy. I also cited the literal court case that you and your Reddit historian quoted, claiming that it shows women had their own line of credit. Turns out, it doesn't show that. Instead, it says that the wife took out credit in her husband's name at a store that was under the impression she was able to do so, and he didn't want to pay it. It actually proves my fucking poooooint. She didn't have her own cre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 03:43 PM
1	The patriarchy isn't real "Although the Equal Pay Act, passed in 1963, required men and women to be paid equally when doing the same work, it wasn’t until the Equal Credit Opportunity Act was passed in 1974 that women could get their own credit cards in their own name. The ECOA was originally introduced in 1973 by Representative Bella Abzug (D-NY) and was signed into law by President Gerald Ford on October 28, 1974." https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credit-cards/when-could-women-get-credit-cards/ One court case doesn't dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 03:23 PM
1	The patriarchy isn't real Whether the human species needs to continue to grow in order to survive is a totally different conversation. And replacement levels obviously are calculated based on average. The fewer children had by other groups are not irrelevant and still contribute toward "replacement" or the number of children each traditional blah blah family needed to have would be even greater. The replacement rate is based on replacing a population, not only the parents, which is why it's generally greater than 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 03:18 PM
0	The patriarchy isn't real because someone deleted their comment, I can't respond to comments below. But here are my responses to comments down the thread: 1) regarding men who are raped and there is a child as a result: men can legally terminate their parental rights or not sign a birth certificate in the first place. Their solutions are legal, but they do not, under any circumstances, have to carry a child in their body or have to suffer the physical consequences of child birth. Abandonment has been the practical choice…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 01:47 AM
0	The patriarchy isn't real "Experimental evidence" IS a trend, a pattern in the observations. There are almost always outliers or abnormalities in the evidence. And the science is the pattern that can be deduced, and then applied to predict future events or explain similar or related events/phenomena. I don't mean trend like a fashion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 06:29 PM
0	The patriarchy isn't real First, different countries will obviously require an individual analysis. I'm talking about the US. and, truly these examples are laughable. There is no draft in the United States. And when there WAS, men were making the laws. They did it to themselves. It was a decision based on undermining the ability of women as much as it was about "protecting" them. Male circumcision is a form of genital mutilation, yes. But, it does not carry the same dangers as female genital mutilation. And you can argue…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 05:20 PM
3	The patriarchy isn't real The nuclear family, which is what I described even if you didn't understand it that way, is not the only way society perpetuates itself. It's the only way a regressive society perpetuates itself. Having children AT ALL is essential, but the particular way those children are conceived and raised is unimportant to continuing the human species. Indeed, immigration, adoption, surrogacy, blended families, multigenerational families, also "maintain" societies. Also, bringing up Darwin, regarding choic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 03:59 PM
1	The patriarchy isn't real There are different theories and types of matriarchy. Anthropologists have found that matriarchal societies are not necessarily unequal. Women still have and raise kids, and the society's decision making favors the collective, rather than either gender. But it would depend, obviously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 03:46 PM
-2	The patriarchy isn't real There's nothing to respond to here. You "argue it's the opposite" without any specific examples or explanation. What you mean to say is, "I blindly believe the opposite of reality, because I don't like it and it makes me feel bad about myself." Anyway, laws NOT favoring men, does not mean that the law favors women. What did happen is that laws that explicitly favored men were rewritten/reinterpreted as neutral in regard to sex/gender. That neutrality shouldn't offend men, but it clearly triggers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 03:43 PM
2	The patriarchy isn't real They haven't. Women have had more rights than they did before, and in theory EQUAL rights to men. Thats what America promises. But at no point has society flipped to a matriarchy. Also "the left" is not defined clearly at all I can't respond to whatever you think you're saying. But, even if there was a "left" with a matriarchal social structure, it's clearly a subculture, which in and of itself does not change the reality that America was and still strives to be a patriarchy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 03:34 PM
2	The patriarchy isn't real History, social sciences, hard sciences are all based on trends. They are explanations for how things generally work. A good theory also accounts for those exceptions to the general rule, within the same terms/based on the same premises, and can explain an outcome of the system based on different common or rare variables. Like, blood pressure medicine works in X way to provide Y relief. If Y does not occur, a scientist will investigate other factors that coexisted to see what happened. But an un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 03:29 PM
48	The patriarchy isn't real TL;DR, the "patriarchy" feminists are against is a social ideal/culture that is created and maintained by our laws, policies, and norms. It is not an individual man or group, but a cumulative effect of social and political choices real people are making. The word "Patriarchy" requires context. Of course, in the micro sense, a singular family unit can be described as matriarchal or patriarchal or neither. This description depends on the actual make up and functioning of that family. In a macro se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/25 02:24 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Yes, and that's the same problem for all crimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 08:07 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false If men create benevolent sexism, they also create the "flip side" as you call it. Women are not asking to be "protected" to the point of losing autonomy, which is what benevolent sexism is and does, and which we seem to agree comes first. It's presented as something nice and good but has harmful effects; it is not actually good. If men in power are enforcing policies that take women's autonomy and saying it's helping them (benevolent sexism), how is it then women's fault that men are hurt becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 10:28 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false What are you talking about???? You can say whatever you want, but whatever you're trying to get across, doesn't seem to be based on anything real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 09:21 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false When I google, the American academy of pediatrics comes up, which is not a government agency. And I don't see anything about the program you alluded to. And, really, millions of men? How long was the initiative in effect, how many people applied, etc etc there are a lot of questions left unanswered for you to think you e proven a point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 09:19 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Linguistically, sure, hostile is an antonym of benevolent. You haven't shown much more than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:56 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false You're not defining any of your terms, possibly making up concepts. You're speaking in absolutes that are easily proven wrong. You're selective applying historical events, and trying to lord racism over me, without knowing my race, and you're doing all this to argue for what? Not investigating rape? You've created a boogeyman in "feminism" that you cannot possibly defeat in order to exclusively blame women instead of other men for the problems in society. That is sexism right there. Not a shred …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:50 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false So, you've given me almost not details about the actual program and it's not in effect anymore.... Okayyyy	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:44 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false So, you've given me almost not details about the actual program and it's not in effect anymore.... Okayyyy	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:44 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false I've been called the n-word.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:40 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false You're just arguing that women should have nothing until all men have everything. That's bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:36 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false The whistling=deaths example (I'm assuming you're talking about Emmett Till) is clearly the result of American racism. I am NOT arguing that things like that didn't happen and I agree it's reprehensible. But it was because the accused was Black and the victim was white. American racism overlaid over American sexism led to that result. Paternalism says you can do anything as long as you say you're protecting women (especially white women), ie kill a thirteen year old boy, take away her reproducti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:32 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Okay, I'm out. You've just shown that you're unwilling to accept reality at face value. Enjoy the rest of your day!	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:25 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Right. But assuming it's neutral and assuming there is no ill will, both should result in investigation. It is assuming that the victim is lying that is what leads to the most harmful outcome in this situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:17 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Society is not a business. And men are still in control of this society either way. They are way overrepresented in positions of actual power, leaders of companies, government representatives, clergy, police, etc. Focusing conveniently on one age group to extrapolate to an entire society is a fun trick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:13 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false What is institutionalized misandry?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:06 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false This is not how the law works. You can't just create evidence. The "narrative" that women are raped by men is believable, because men rape women. It doesn't mean all men or in every individual situation, but the "narrative" works because it's true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:05 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false This is very simplistic thinking. Who created the system of power? Just because women have figured out how to navigate it without men, doesn't mean they created it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 08:01 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:59 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Being underrepresented is not the same as being oppressed. They may overlap but they are not identical. Can you show that the underrepresentation is caused by women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:50 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false I said under penalty of perjury. Simply saying it out loud isn't what I'm talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:49 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false What does that mean to you? Women as oppressors? I think it's just talking points you've memorized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:48 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false An accusation being baseless and your testimony being evidence are different and independent considerations. Go around your town and tell people that itstheuptowndown raped you, and see what they think about you. You can make the accusation, and people can have the discernment to conclude you're lying because you won't be able to answer any of the other questions to prove your accusation. And legally yes your testimony would still be is evidence. It doesn't mean that it's dispositive. Thats why …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:47 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Even I accept all your stats at face value, which I don't, you're making a huge logical leap. Having an education and buying your own home = oppression?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:43 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false LOL what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:40 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Baseless, emotional conclusion. Thanks for playing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:39 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false It looks like RAINN (which you will no doubt discredit) measures the backlogs based on )being sent to the crime lab at all and 2) not being tested after being sent to the crime lab. Do you have numbers on the second category? It's so odd talking to some men about rape, because they're delusional. To those men, every fact proves that women are out to get men, but they ignore that women are more often the victims and men are almost always the perpetrators of sexual violence against male and female…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:36 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false How are women the dominant social group? And what are the different protocols and procedures for male rape victims? I'd love to know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:24 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false You could accuse me of rape under the penalty of perjury, and that would be evidence, yes. And you'd be a liar and part of the 2 to 10% of false accusations. And I would testify under penalty of perjury that I have never been in the same room as this person, or possibly the same state or country. they don't know what I look like. If nothing else, tell me where and when it happened, and I'll prove where I was or wasn't. Is there DNA or camera footage or metadata or anything showing that I was the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 07:00 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false They are not "100% believed if they are women" and this thread is a perfect example of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 06:48 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false That's the same limitation of knowledge for all crimes. You're arguing as if the false accusations for other crimes are measured differently and more accurately. They're not. There is no way to know how many more are false for any crime (I guess except murder, if it's proven the victim is alive). The studies can only make an estimate from objective factors, and that number is roughly the same across all crimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 06:47 PM
3	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false When "feminists" talk about rape they are never (or I have never seen) making a distinction between male and female victims or saying that men have it easier when they try to report a rape or sexual violence. We talk about female victims because most victims of sexual violence based on anecdotal and statistical evidence are overwhelmingly women and girls. But making that process easier and affording more protocols and guidelines for all rape accusations will also benefit men. It is the culture c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 06:44 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Well, that last paragraph was only "trust me bro"ism. You don't know what is included in that standard. Something outside the control of law enforcement could be as simple as a lack of evidence. And like many people responding to this post are doing, assuming there is never enough evidence to prove rape is an assumption that would lead to a conclusion that there will almost NEVER be evidence and therefore rapes cannot be proven, and therefore investigation is futile. Also, what other crimes are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 06:37 PM
-1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false You aren't making the contrary point you think you are. We agree what the standard SHOULD be. It often isn't applied that way. Cops and prosecutors make assumptions of belief and disbelief all the fucking time. Thats why orgs like innocence project exist, and that's why rape claims are poorly investigated if at all. I am saying that that ideal standard should also apply to rape claims. If you want to call it a neutral non-assumption of facts that leads to investigation or whatever, and I call it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 06:31 PM
0	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false From your source: "Within the U.S. criminal justice system, criminal cases can be cleared (or closed) one of two ways. The first is through arrest, which means that at least one person has either been arrested, charged with an offense, or turned over to the court for prosecution. The second way a case can be closed is through what is called exceptional means, where law enforcement must have either identified the offender, gathered enough evidence to arrest, charge, and prosecute someone, identif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 05:18 PM
2	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false What do you consider evidence? Testimony from a victim IS evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 05:13 PM
1	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false They aren't obliged in the US. According to Supreme Court rulings, they're barely obliged to do anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 05:12 PM
0	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Sure, whatever. If the order of those verbs makes a difference, then fine. But we're talking about the same thing. With a robbery, for example, you have to believe there is SOME truth to what the victim is saying to even decide to investigate. Rape victims are rarely afforded that same benefit of the doubt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 05:11 PM
3	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false Because the studies say so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 05:08 PM
15	Only 2-10% of rape allegations were determined to be provably false This number (2 to 10%) is the same for all crimes. The logic, therefore, is that rape reports should be treated like other crimes, in that they are believed and investigated when they are reported, rather than immediately discredited and ignored. If the percentage of false reports were higher than other crimes, then everything you just said miiiiight start to matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 02:07 PM
–	Misandry is just as bad as racism. Is this happening in America???	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/25 05:36 PM
1	Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The Statistics How much money do you make that 1) you have to bring a wife over from abroad and 2) wouldn't get a prenup and 3) worry about them taking "everything"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/25 04:53 PM
–	Misandry is just as bad as racism. Women are aware that not all men are predators, but it is impossible to tell until they're trusted a man and been harmed by him. It doesn't harm men for women to be cautious. It is not the same as racist prejudice. there are men and women in all races; this experience occurs across races as well in varying forms. (this is basic intersectionalism). There is not a social power imbalance in favor of women which they use to further their "bigotry." No one cares about an individual person's biases un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/25 04:44 PM