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“Necessary but not sufficient”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:03 AM
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Only attractive female friends. I have male friends like this, and they are generally good guys who respect boundaries and are pretty good partners. If you don’t have the social skills to have friends, you probably wouldn’t be a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:25 PM
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I would file for emancipation at 13 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:36 PM
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The only victim in this situation is the baby. Don’t know if it’s worse to be a girl or a boy and come across your father’s baboonery on the internet in 15 years. Truly if you watch a single minute of this show and still decide to sleep with either of these scumbags, you’re an idiot. The Walter being broke angle is going to be hilarious when the child support drama goes public.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:26 PM
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Yeah but when you’re aware of the tactics they are super obvious. I made the bad decision of dating a red piller once (and the good decision of dumping him fast). I could easily identify every time he tried one of the tactics. Negging. Dread game. “Frame.” All that shit. It was pretty pathetic, actually, because I could recognize it in real time. I would just smile and nod and put it in the growing pocket full of red flags, and once that pocket was full, I pulled the plug.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:52 PM
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I’m cool with psychedelics and weed as long as it’s not every day all day. I don’t drink much so I wouldn’t date a heavy drinker. I’m of the “drug use for grown ups” school of thought. If you’re a responsible user and it doesn’t interfere with your life, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:04 PM
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Most people date pretty close to their “league” all told. If men value looks and women value status, a high status man and a beautiful woman are in each others league, so to speak. I personally don’t look at dating like that. Do I think you’re smart and cool and awesome? ✅ Do I want to sleep with you?✅. Are you in any way waving giant red flags? ❌. Ok proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:26 AM
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actually….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:11 AM
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There’s usually a trade off. In “hypergamy” often the woman is dating up in socioeconomic status but down in looks. So both of them are dating out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:08 PM
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Note - repels predators 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:53 PM
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Aren’t libertarians pro freedom to do drugs on the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:22 AM
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Women would come together and spam the shit out of the service. If everyone has a reported body count of 16,000, nobody does
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:16 PM
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I think you also have to look at the caliber of women they are pulling. For the most part, “thugs” are popular with women of their own socioeconomic status who might see benefit in being with someone who is seen as protective in a dangerous environment. Likewise, fast money can be seen as attractive if you don’t see the options for the long game. There’s also an element of short sightedness - if someone thinks nobody around them is going to escape poverty, why choose the corny boy over the more …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:15 PM
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The best way I can describe it is graphite vs diamond. No matter what you do, the graphite is always gonna be soft and gray. But while a diamond might not look like much to begin with, when it’s all polished up it’s incredibly beautiful and valuable. Same starting material. Different processes. Different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:23 PM
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I firmly believe that swag in men who haven’t had to struggle at all reads more as arrogance and entitlement than true swag. And it’s not attractive. Not all hood types are thugs either. Two of the sexiest partners I’ve had were a dentist and a basketball coach. It’s just that to survive and thrive in a difficult environment, you need confidence, social skills, fortitude and ingenuity that you don’t necessarily get in a cushier environment. It translates into virility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:16 PM
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That’s why the absolutely most attractive guys (IMO) are professionals who come from the hood. Best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:13 PM
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Thugmaxxing isn’t real because you can’t fake the qualities that make so-called thugs so viscerally attractive - there’s nothing less attractive than a fake thug. Like if you’re Carlton, you’re never gonna have Pop Smoke swag. It’s just not in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:10 PM
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This is why “hood ______” are so attractive. Especially the ones who had the brains/talent/drive to make it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:43 AM
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I don’t actually disagree with your original claim. I’d just say a romance is a best friend you fuck (and have babies with and buy houses with etc). Like, I’d go to war for my platonic besties. But I wouldn’t fuck them. I’d fuck the shit out of a good FWB. But I wouldn’t be vulnerable with them. A lover gets both of those. When I heard Rihanna say she and Rocky are “just best friends with a baby” I thought “I bet they’ll last”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:23 AM
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(The behavior was not just “complaining about how she was dressed) As much as there is a gap between a thunderstorm and a hurricane, sure. But it’s the same category of behavior, with the same motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:14 AM
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All that just to say so much nothing. Jonah Bill’s texts revealed him to be controlling AF. He was forcing her to change her instagram pictures on her professional instagram. Making a “boundary” of her not practicing her profession with men. Controlling whom she saw and went out with and what they did. And then couching it all in therapy speak. That’s like page 14 of the narc playbook. And then he gaslit the shit out of her. But actually, not just therapy speak. “To be crystal clear I have not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:23 PM
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Jesus. If a woman can bully you into suicide you were fragile AF to begin with. Your interpretation of the statistics is funny. Who are most men murdered by? Other men. Hmmmm could it be because they are more violent by nature? Are you going to bring a source with that statement about women abusing kids more, or do you expect me to just take you at your word, especially given the questionable nature of your other takes? I gotta see that data myself, because you’re over here ignoring the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:32 PM
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That really depends on how you see humiliation. There are some key differences here. First, she didn’t mention, reference, or involve him in her actions. So any mention you are making of humiliation is just by virtue of how her actions reflect on him. The difference between their actions is that he directly humiliated her, as opposed to her actions indirectly reflecting poorly on him (in a “why can’t you control your bitch” kind of way). So I’d ask you. Did chance the rapper humiliate his wife b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:24 PM
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You could argue that her actions were meant to expose an abuser, which is an entirely different scenario. And by those texts, especially the manipulation of therapy speak, it’s fairly obvious he’s abusive. Won’t be surprised if something comes up about him in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:09 PM
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To fuck men over? Or to protect women from the main perpetrators? Just based on sheer strength - who is doing more damage - the spicy 5’2 100 pound girl who slaps her boyfriend or the angry 6’3 200 pound guy who strangles his girlfriend? “Of the estimated 4,970 female victims of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter in 2021, data reported by law enforcement agencies indicate that 34% were killed by an intimate partner (figure 1). By comparison, about 6% of the 17,970 males murdered that year were…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:59 AM
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Ah but there it is. They are not good choices for some people, which is a very different thing to say than the broad brush “not marriage material” statement our pickme friend above made.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:46 AM
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Were you in the room when this pre-arranged boundary was stated? She didn’t humiliate herself. She did exactly what she wanted to do. He tried to humiliate her and it backfired spectacularly. He had videos on his instagram of her pregnant, twerking and half naked. So it doesn’t so much seem to be an issue if her wearing revealing clothing as a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:27 PM
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I never said it was. Anyone is allowed to have any feeling about anything their partner does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:23 PM
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He has videos of her half naked twerking on her instagram. It’s not about the clothes. It’s about control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:18 PM
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<image> Humiliating. Making her feel guilty. Controlling what she wears (even if he failed at it).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:44 PM
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The wheel can be made gender neutral if it’s offending you. Just put “they/them” instead of she/her, and you might see how valid it is for identifying abusive behavior. I personally don’t defend abusive female behavior. None of the behaviors you mentioned are healthy. It doesn’t change the fact that Keke Palmers BD is an abuser, and that this fact was evident from the moment he showed his ass on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:42 PM
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Do you disagree with the aspects of the power and control wheel itself? Also, do you know the difference between intimate partner terrorism and mutual combat? Not all abusers are men, but intimate partner terrorists are almost exclusively men, due to the physical and cultural advantages they, as a group, wield against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:45 PM
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I’d say ignorance is seeing photo evidence of an assault and still being unable to understand that it probably represents… an assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:03 PM
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What’s a Keisha?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:02 PM
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<image> They say LDE is a body shaming slur but sometimes stereotypes are true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:58 PM
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Let’s unpack that. By “Keisha,” I do believe you’re trying to pigeonhole me into an ignorant stereotype about Black women. So let me disabuse you of that notion. Regarding my username - the hoodrat part is facetious. The Ivy League part isn’t. And I love Black men. I married one. I birthed a future one. I’ll make damn sure my Black daughters know to stay well away from your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:54 PM
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Let me guess. Flat earther?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:47 PM
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Lord. It’s not coercive control to criticize someone’s outfit. It’s a sign of coercive control to publicly humiliate your partner for what she is wearing, especially when it is couched in misogyny. This can be an early red flag for escalating abuse, of which this case is a textbook example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:46 PM
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“Pics or it didn’t happen” links pics You:
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:40 PM
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Are you being willfully obtuse? If not, let me make it clear: Publicly humiliating your spouse, implying that she is a bad mother because of a dress she wore, is emotional abuse. This is the “yelling fire in a crowded theater” equivalent of “speaking his mind about his outfit.” Yes, speech is free. That doesn’t mean some free speech isn’t harmful, and actually, some is purposely so, meant to establish coercive control over a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:09 PM
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So in general, you think it’s appropriate to publicly air out your relationship issues to a massive audience? And to shame your partner publicly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:41 PM
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And who’s to say Keke Palmer wasn’t teasing her upcoming video with Usher that came out just a bit later? If I were her accountant I definitely would have said she could write off the concert tickets and the dress as business expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:40 PM
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And yet many of them appear to have good marriages. I’ve seen love scenes with Denzel Washington barely clothed and behaving very provocatively, and yet he’s been married since 1983. Must be because he’s not good marriage material
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:05 PM
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Maybe in your spare time you might peruse the #whyistayed hashtag on the site formerly known as twitter. I think you might benefit from hearing women’s experience of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:02 PM
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As a feminist - nah. Anyone has the right to break up at any time for any reason. “A little out of control” is physical assault on someone smaller and weaker than you? Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:00 PM
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Sounds a whole lot like victim shaming. News flash: nobody deserves to be emotionally or physically abused, period. Boundaries are “these are my standards. Meet them or GTFO.” Controlling behavior is “I’m going to encroach on your autonomy.” Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:40 PM
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Of course. Do you know how a normal man would respond to her “acting like a slut?” He would talk to her in private before or after the incident and/or leave without physically assaulting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:35 PM
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It’s not the feeling, it’s the behavior. Some people make me very angry. Guess what I don’t do? Stab them. Get it? If you dont, you can substitute “partner,” “uncomfortable,” and “publicly humiliate” and see if it starts to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:32 PM
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I really hope more women wake up and recognize that these kinds of behaviors are 🚩🚩🚩 of dangerous men. Controlling, misogynistic men are the swamp from which physical abusers evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:30 PM
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But until then, all this thick dark billowing smoke could just be incense burning and not a fire. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:27 PM
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Ah yes, the one where what you wear outside justifies physical abuse. Sounds totally healthy and normal. May any girl you date find your Reddit history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:27 PM
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So next time your partner has a problem with your behavior, are you cool with them discussing it with a million people on twitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:12 PM
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So you think the quality of internet screenshots is the quality available to the “alleged” victim? Like a celebrity doesn’t have HD cameras trained at their front door?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:10 PM
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So what about college and beyond educated Black women do you think could be confounders in comparing them to White high school dropouts? Are you suggesting that somehow dropouts are wealthier than college/ post secondary grads? Because your original point implied that Black maternal mortality is a function of poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:06 PM
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Is Beyoncé marriage material? She’s been married for many years despite “dressing and acting provocatively.” How about Melania Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:01 PM
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The link I posted has screenshots of the security vid of him thrashing her all over the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:58 PM
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So those photos are like… not enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:50 PM
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It should have been a private conversation, ideally setting a boundary beforehand, or at most a conversation in private after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:49 PM
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That’s a private conversation. Not a tweet for millions of people. That has a different objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:47 PM
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Elaborate on that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:45 PM
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Public humiliation, using jealousy to control actions, being the one to define men’s and women’s roles, all of these fall on the power and control wheel of abusive behaviors. Argue with the professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:43 PM
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“If it’s true” when there is literal photo evidence of him thrashing her lmao wow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:37 PM
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Notably, the pregnancy-related mortality rate for Black women who completed college education or higher is 5.2 times higher than the rate for White women with the same educational attainment and 1.6 times higher than the rate for White women with less than a high school diploma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:10 PM
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Don’t forget the lesser known kink called “legal play” where you get a restraining order for funsies 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:54 PM
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This is funny coming from a Stan of Myron “I’ve never made a woman cum” Gaines.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:18 PM
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omg it gets better This is the kind of unhinged guy you’re parading around as the patron saint of dads who dindonuffin and are victims of the police state. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:24 AM
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Oh this guy? Yeah he sounds like a stellar parent. Hitting his 4-year-old child hard enough to draw blood … and shocked the mother left him? Yeah sounds like “false accusations” to me. Then doesn’t pay child support, faces the consequences of that… And then… sets himself on fire. That sounds like just the amount of emotional stability a child needs in her life. Maybe not the best example… “My story starts with the infamous slapping incident of April 2001,” he wrote. While putting his 4-year-old …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:06 AM
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Let me guess… baby moms “falsely accused” you and somehow schemed and lied so well the legal system believed her and now having done nothing wrong ever you’re being forcibly denied the privilege of fatherhood? I’d say where there’s smoke there’s fire. The only dude I know of whose child’s mom and kid have a restraining order against him actually deserved that shit and worse. But let him tell it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:53 AM
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That’s like me being like “let’s focus on obese diabetics” and you’re like “no let’s talk about the slim ones.” Like…. Deadbeat dads are so much more common than deadbeat moms. Anyway I imagine you’re trolling or stalking responding to a 126 day old comment. hi superfan
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:24 PM
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here you go Some interesting facts from the study: 22% of “single fathers” are cohabiting with partners. 21% are living with other family members. In the pew report (much quoted in the “outcomes are better for single father household” argument), 41% were cohabiting. “Single fathers have as much, if not more, access to support from friends and extended families” Children of single fathers have consistently more antisocial and violent behavior, and more substance abuse than children of single moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:03 PM
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Single father homes tend to have much more support from the women in their lives than single mother homes have from the men in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:41 PM
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Don’t ever change your flair it’s brilliant 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:51 AM
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This is exactly what I teach my son - if a woman or a smaller man attacks you, you use exactly as much force as you need to keep yourself uninjured and no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:03 AM
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If they’re asking “what are we” only one of you is having casual sex. The other one has expectations that haven’t been communicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:32 AM
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Was it inevitable or did one or both of you just ignore the expectation setting part?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:31 AM
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Rubbing his hands or
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:50 AM
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Or even just a below average dude who couldn’t get women when he was in his twenties but has magically become desirable because he turned 35 and started bathing regularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:45 PM
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It’s simple y’all. She’s twenty SIX. She has hit the wall. She will die alone because she failed to lock down a high value 40 year old when she was 18. Sucks for her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:38 PM
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“I’m just going to say you’re wrong and not back it up with any logic or facts because I can’t, so I’ll just say you’re wrong so I can feel better about my dumb ass position and run from the discussion instead of learning something”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:28 AM
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“I’m wrong and I run away from facts” Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:26 AM
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Ok let me go slowly. Let’s think about diabetes. There’s the diabetics whose sugar runs about 200 every day, and who will get kidney disease and eye disease in like 20 years. Then there’s the diabetics whose sugar runs about 600 every day, and they will be on dialysis in 5 years with bilateral amputations. Is the first guy not sick because the second guy is a lot sicker? Anyway yes the children are at risk. Psychological abuse is harmful, just in different ways than physical abuse. I knew a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:24 AM
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I swear I have to bust out the power and control wheel like once a month on this site. Y’all don’t learn about this in school? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:18 AM
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Yes, abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:13 AM
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I didn’t even say I think like this. I said it’s a theory. Then i cited an article that puts forth the the theory. Why is this controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:02 PM
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Girl my circle is far from shady. We all look good and we all lift each other up. If you had actually read what the author wrote, you might get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:52 PM
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Do you always make arguments without being informed? Just saying anything. I’m a woman. I can speak to how we communicate and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:43 PM
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It is. Is it valid? Maybe or maybe not. But it’s definitely a theory “worked in digital media for years at companies that were direct competitors with Cosmopolitan, Women's Health, and Self. I edited and produced content about women's health and body positivity, and in all my years of working in the editorial room, I never saw any obese women writing articles about fat acceptance. All the editors, writers, directors, and executives that were involved in creating body positive content were thin, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:37 PM
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There’s a theory that “yaaaas queen” is actually sabotaging the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:03 AM
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It’s a silly way of doing so because of the difference in standards. It’s like you being like “I got a 93% on this kindergarten test and you got a 60% on this calculus test so see how I’m out performing you?” (Most) women have much higher standards than men for sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:57 AM
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How is this a flex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:19 AM
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Hot is an amalgamation of characteristics of which one fairly highly weighted element is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:09 AM
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The point is “the norm” assumes two ideal partners which is rarely the case. And in many cases, gay couples are much more intentional about childbearing (because they have to plan it) than straight couples who just oopsied their way into parenthood. Here’s a conclusion from a 2023 meta review in a well respected journal. “Most of the family outcomes are similar between sexual minority and heterosexual families, and sexual minority families have even better outcomes in some domains. “
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:12 AM
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What if the wife has deep shame around menstruation and passes that on to the daughter? What if the gay guy is really open and empathetic and brings his super cool woman friend to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:15 AM
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Right! She has great facial features. I have a feeling she’s getting lumped in with the much less facially attractive first girl for reasons i can’t qwhite put my finger on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:30 PM
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To be clear, I’m not saying short people are universally unattractive. For me, height is a factor in attraction. So is race. So is body type. So like, I wouldn’t find a 6’3 dad bod white guy attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:45 PM
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To me it made him sexually unattractive, yes. I did not enjoy having sex with him like I do with taller men, because I did not like the way his body looked or felt next to mine. I was willing to overlook that. And it did affect his proportions. Before I met him, he sent a picture, and my first thought was “he looks short.” But he lied about it (by a good margin) and I believed him. Tall people are not just stretched out short people. Generally short men are shorter because they have shorter limb…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:27 PM
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It absolutely does. I dated a guy significantly shorter than me once and it made me feel like a child was trying to climb me. My actual child was taller than him. I tried, but I could not force sexual attraction. In the end though, what made him repulsive to me, and why I dumped him, was his character, not his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:58 PM
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Speak for your fucking self.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:13 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:09 AM
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This is my point about the true ick. I truly believe it’s a fail safe warning system for red flags that you may have been ignoring, but may end up disastrous. I think that if you don’t listen to your brain or your gut, eventually your genitals will speak up like “DO NOT PROCEED.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:32 AM
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so do these guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:41 AM
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She didn’t look past it though. She made a whole album about it and he went to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:04 PM
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Right because you can end up pregnant with HIV from paying for pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:55 AM
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Beyoncé wasn’t quite BEYONCÉ yet. They were nowhere near the same status in 2000. He was (in hip hop) at the tippity top of the chain. And Jay Z has charisma for decades. If you want to play the red pill game, he was already very popular with women so… preselection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:33 PM
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Most women who chose single parenthood have abundant resources and support already in place before the child is even conceived. They often have male role models ready to mentor their children. IVF is a 5-6 figure investment. Those kids are not the ones you need to worry about. Save your activism for the deadbeat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:37 PM
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Murder isn’t the only thing that happens when you refuse - you might “just” get punched in the face or spit on or verbally assaulted or followed and harassed. You never know who is crazy. The other day on the bus a dude straight kicked an older lady who happened to bump past him (the bus was super crowded) without saying excuse me. It’s not worth the risk to set someone off so I always err on the side of rejecting as gently as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:32 AM
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Wait. You can’t see how being scared for your dog doesn’t translate to calling the police and saying a Black man is threatening your life? Not “a man is harassing my dog who is off leash unlawfully.” A specifically Black man is threatening my White female life. That’s a call for the police to come running with their guns out. She tells him exactly what she is going to do, and she does it. watch it again. Her intent is explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:15 PM
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“People like you” means you could watch that video and not understand what she was doing by weaponizing her tears, perhaps because you’ve never been subjected to any kind of racism. Her screaming for help with a completely straight face and lightning fast return to composure is so obvious. That you can’t see it puts you firmly in the “people like you” category. You have unconscious bias and you won’t let it go. Body language says a lot. Her body language says “aggressor” and that’s what make her…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:40 PM
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Look at her face between “screams.” She knew exactly what she was trying to do. She wanted her way, and she pretended to be in danger so she could get her way. That’s a menace. She asked them for it, they said no, while the boy was still on it. She couldn’t take no for an answer, because entitlement, so she scanned it while the kid was on the bike. It’s like seeing someone hail a cab and then jumping into it. She was an asshole for how she acted before, during, and after the incident.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:25 PM
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Aside from the fact that it’s not about the bike it takes about 2 minutes for a bike to reset. People do it all the time. One asshole behavior (sitting on a bike waiting for it to reset) hurts no one. There were other bikes. One asshole behavior (weaponizing white tears) can lead to death. She was Amy coopering, and worse than that, because she was the aggressor. She is the only one who committed a crime, and yet she was screaming like she was being attacked, because she wanted that particular b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:20 PM
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She paid for it while someone else was waiting to pay for it. She asked for it and couldn’t take “no I’m about to use it” for an answer (because she’s entitled) she took it out from under his hands. It was an asshole move to begin with. Common sense says that an entitled white woman feels like she can take something from a group of Black boys without consequences, then be physically aggressive and fake cry for sympathy when they don’t let her do it. She wasn’t trying to steal the bike from them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:04 PM
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I watched the video 400 times. I kept up with the story from all sides. The boy had his hands on the bike. He was about to take the bike back out. He had it in his physical possession ie his hands were on the handlebars when she tried to wrangle it. He didn’t steal shit. She was the physically aggressive one, even going so far as to snatch his phone. So this entitled ass white woman is being physically aggressive while “screaming” for help and using fake tears to get a white knight to help her, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:59 PM
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This is exactly why the moniker Citibike Karen is accurate. Weaponized white woman tears are a menace
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:40 AM
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It was news because yet another White woman weaponized her tears against Black boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 AM
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Oh god. Citibike Karen is the essence of an entitled cow. First she physically tried to take possession of a bike someone else was holding. Then she was physically aggressive with a person twice her size. Then, while being physically aggressive (and snatching the boys phone) she fake screams for help because she knows that she will look like an innocent victim because she’s arguing with Black boys. She wasn’t a victim here. I’m glad the people who matter see her true nature. Hopefully they can k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 AM
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You’ve never heard the concept of “mothers helper” huh? Housewives were zombied out on alcohol and benzos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:01 PM
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Call me Ms Parker, except I keep my goods covered for the most part. I give “lady in the streets” vibes and men eat it up. I consider my privilege reparations for sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:22 PM
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Lol nah dear. He was just high. I get called beautiful by strangers at least a few times a week. Even as a middle aged mom I still have hot girl privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:13 PM
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You’d think, right? But the other day a dude said he was homeless asked me for money while I was getting food. I didn’t have cash so I bought him a meal (to go). Then he proceeded to ask me out. And he pressed the issue, too. I was flabbergasted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:10 PM
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Giving very much Elliot Rodgers if girls would have had sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:30 PM
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Did you use chatGPT for this? Either way, strong work lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:46 PM
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So… ride and hide? Throw it back and throw him back? Cowgirl and hurl (him to the streets)? Bounce and bounce? Point is, women do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:21 PM
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You know nothing about me. Myron dances like Elaine from Seinfeld. He’s not Black. You defending these dorks says a lot about you, none of it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:57 AM
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Who’d have ever thought that a man who dons a KKK hood and says the hard r, who “doesn’t dabble in the dark” and worships whiteness, would treat Black women with disrespect?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:01 AM
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Shame we’re not allowed to talk about race here…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:38 AM
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r/whenwomenrefuse
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:40 PM
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Because you can move to the rhythm. So good. I still flashback to a specific move a lover put on me that was right in time to the beat and it drove me wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:25 AM
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If you’re with a man like you described in your post I’d advise the same. Your advice is toxic AF
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:24 AM
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I don’t fuck people who don’t court me, no matter how attractive they are, so I can’t really relate to your statement. I was so immediately, viscerally attracted to the man I’m dating now that I slipped him my number - we hadn’t said three words to each other (it wasn’t a social setting). I wanted to jump his bones from the second I laid eyes on him. Guess what I did? Wait it out, let him court me. This post is about courting, not one night stands. I imagine though that just like men have a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:04 PM
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Whooosh was way back when you missed that healthy women don’t fall for that shit no matter what the guy looks like. The last guy I dated with narcissistic qualities was 6’5 and classically handsome. He didn’t get too far because I didn’t like his character. Because I’m a well adjusted woman who isn’t going to break my own heart because a guy is good looking. Attraction is the floor. I get the feeling you blame your lack of success with women on your looks. Your bitterness towards “chad” belies a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:24 PM
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There’s a difference between normal attention and affection and love bombing. My sense is that love bombing is kind of a desperation tactic to try to get a girl hooked on you when she wouldn’t otherwise be head over heels. Really attractive men can afford to take things at a normal pace because there is that baseline attraction, whereas unattractive men are trying to sell a dream because they don’t inspire visceral attraction in the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:14 PM
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Nah it’s really never charming if you’re mentally healthy with a secure attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:01 PM
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That’s more along the lines of discussing values. Maybe I misunderstood your initial statement. Discussing values is cool. You said “explaining how he would treat her” which is more along the lines of “I want to provide for you in the future.” Again though, you could just demonstrate that in the way you court her. The last few dates I went on were in nice restaurants, and I didn’t even see the check. I got the vibe the gentlemen would have been offended if I even offered to pay. That tells me a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:06 AM
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I’m not sure I understand. What is his purpose? Why does a man need to explain why he wants to treat a woman well? Why would that be a reason for being with her? There’s a difference between being communicative (communicating regularly, going on dates, expressing interest), which is healthy, and love bombing, which is not. Healthy relationships have a steady progression. Here’s the difference: on a third date, saying “I’d love to get married some day and have kids” opens a conversation about lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:54 AM
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In my experience, a man “explaining how he would treat me” is often part of love bombing, which is a big red flag. I can tell how a man will treat me by his actions, how he is treating me in the present. Obviously he wants to have sex with me, or he wouldn’t be courting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:23 AM
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I see your point, but “not being a nag” still requires a superior emotional intelligence. ie man leaves his dirty draws all over the bedroom, doesn’t notice it irks woman, woman has to find a way to address it without hurting man’s ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:20 AM
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Yes. I can expand: Just like most men are taller than women, and women want a man taller than them, most women are more social than men and men want a woman who is “friendly,” which means that seeking that out is seeking someone with a wider social network than them. Every guy I’ve been with has like 3 close friends. I have like 15 women I would consider myself very close to. No man I know is super active on instagram. When I was (and I kept my page super private to only people I knew and liked …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:50 PM
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I would say that “a woman who is friendly” likely has a wider social circle than a man, in general. “Friendly” to a lot of men means cooperative and sometimes submissive, which takes more emotional intelligence than a man has, in general. It means being able to soothe his ego in a way that many men are incapable of. It may not be explicit, but it’s basically like saying “I want a woman who is fit” is saying I don’t want a woman who is fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:00 PM
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“Fit feminine friendly”. 2 of 3 are based on social skills and emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:52 PM
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What I’m saying is they are. Sociologically they want women who are better at socializing, have wider friend circles, are more emotionally intelligent, etc than them. Educationally they want someone with more domestic education. Better at cleaning, better at cooking, better at nurturing kids. All these things are learned. What you’re missing is that by arbitrarily defining sociological “being better” as having more economic status and educational “being better” as having more formal schooling, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:38 PM
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Men aren’t hypergamous because you’re defining characteristics they don’t want someone to be better in. Society has deemed these to be indicative of “higher social standing.” And yet men want someone More beautiful More domestically gifted More socially skilled More flexible in personality Etc These traits are just not valued in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:03 AM
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You’re so right. I totally thought Rosie the Riveter was a real woman who single-handedly saved American infrastructure while men were at war. I wasn’t at all being facetious as a nod to the many women who did actually go to work “men’s jobs” during that period. I’ll see myself to the dunce corner 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:17 PM
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I’m just saying women adapt. And physical labor is becoming less of an issue now with automation and robotics. So brute strength is less of an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:59 AM
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Welp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:18 PM
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Not too late to educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:09 PM
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The education system has failed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:04 PM
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Rosie the riveter would like a word…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:13 PM
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She weighs 242 pounds according to this source and that is much more likely than 160. At 5’11 160 she would be pretty slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:01 PM
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Nerds can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:42 PM
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What you said was “more exciting car = more problems.” And “if you want a supermodel, you deal with supermodel problems” Not all supermodels are terrible people. Nothing about a guy spending a lot of time in the gym or making money makes him a bad person just for those reasons. If you have the money to afford the Bentley, the repair costs don’t make it a bad car for you. Why would you buy a Camry? If you can tolerate the trade offs of a hot guy (and they aren’t always huge: for example, my late …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:42 PM
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That’s fair. I think many woman insert “stay single” between options one and two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:27 PM
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I understood your point, but I don’t agree with it. If men are the “gatekeepers of relationship,” then by definition a woman in a relationship with a “Bentley” deserves one. Also, not all “Bentleys” are assholes. Not all “Camrys” are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:51 PM
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Since this is about women’s preferences, she only matters if the woman is bisexual or gay, but she’s still on the bottom rung.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:22 PM
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I mean Marjorie Taylor Greene managed to get married and have a boyfriend so anything is possible I guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:21 PM
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I agree in most instances, but extrapolated to relationships: Laughing in a Bentley > laughing on a bike > crying on a Bentley > crying on a bike (at which point you might as well walk)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:33 AM
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… All that work just to miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:01 AM
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I’ll speak for me. There is a floor of physical attractiveness that needs to be reached or else I can’t be intimate with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:47 AM
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The analogy is “money doesn’t buy happiness but it’s nicer to cry in a Bentley than a Camry” Obviously, a hot guy who treats you well is best. Second to that is a meh guy who treats you well. Your bad option is a hot guy who is an asshole. But the worst of all possible options is the troll who is also an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:53 AM
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Amazon, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:35 PM
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Both times I’ve gotten the ick it was to save me from dangerous people. The first one, I never was attracted to him in the first place but he love bombed me when I was a bit vulnerable coming out of widowhood and I didn’t recognize it and gave him a chance . My gut said he was a very bad person but I didn’t trust it because I don’t have a lot of experience with men outside my long marriage. Pretty soon into it I felt viscerally revolted by him. Even the way he smelled made me physically recoil. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:40 PM
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You are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:58 PM
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Not PP but I feel the same. They can’t without being intelligent. I don’t find broad humor or fart jokes or physical comedy funny. Quick wit, subtle wordplay, all that cerebral humor is what gets me. You don’t have to be nerdy to be smart though - look at Jay z. He was a drug dealer and he uses triple entendres in his verses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:34 AM
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Holy internalized misogyny Batman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:35 AM
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He’s fairly handsome and I guarantee you he’s actually charming. We’re not talking about fake jets etc. He was probably getting girls from a young age. This is talking about the dork who tries to be cool. We’ve all met him. And they can’t shake the dork vibe. Genuinely cool nerdy guys are sexy because they own their nerdiness. Try hards are pretty transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:36 PM
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No he had real charisma. That’s how he did it. You can fake money etc but you can’t fake swag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:37 AM
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I’d be like awesome we can afford more house if we both contribute. I’d rather pay some and live in a bigger place in a nicer neighborhood than have him pay the whole thing and we can’t afford somewhere as nice. What’s the point in partnership if you can’t combine resources and divide costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:10 AM
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I have genuine male friends and some orbiters I keep at a distance. The real friends I’ve known for years and even decades in some cases started out in situations where it just wasn’t that kind of situation. Like we were in a friend group and it would be weird, or we worked together. Also, I was with the same guy from age 19 to 38, so they were respectful of that. And I was respectful of their relationships. So we developed a familial relationship. A lot of them are in their own relationships no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:29 PM
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Why does it have to be better? It’s different. (Healthy)Feminine energy is beautiful. So is masculine energy. It’s good to have a balance of energies in your life. All the guys I’ve ever met who don’t have women friends are dickheads, and they aren’t good with women. All the most sexually successful men I know have women as friends. Not as side pieces, not that they are orbiting and waiting to see if they can get out of the friend zone. Friends. They’re just people. It’s not that a “woman could …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:37 AM
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It’s a stupid question. Why would I dignify it with an actual answer? You’re not Socrates bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:29 AM
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If you are not capable of having a platonic friendship with a woman it says one of these things: 🚩 I am sexist 🚩I don’t see women as people beyond sex mates 🚩Women don’t like me as a person 🚩 I have no higher cortex control over my base instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:43 AM
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Bro well-adjusted people have friends of both sexes. Argue with yaself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:39 AM
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What kind of reality show morals do your friend group have that they don’t stay faithful to their significant others? It can’t be that difficult not to fuck around if you said you wouldn’t. Edit: fair enough lol I did say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:50 PM
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Did I say it was a red flag to anyone besides me? Did I complain about anything? Go sit down somewhere 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:44 PM
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You don’t have to be sorry. Just know it’s a huge red flag to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:08 PM
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🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:51 PM
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You realize that not every woman is jumping into bed with “Chad” and making everyone else wait? Many women will wait to have sex with someone regardless of how hot they are because they want to build connection and get to know them first. If she likes you, there are other ways for her to show it. If you like her, you’re blowing a chance at fucking her regularly by pressuring her or using ridiculous PUA tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:55 PM
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That if is doing a lot of work, and if the girl was attracted to him, he wouldn’t need PUA tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:25 PM
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Nah, any woman with self respect is not going to be intimidated by that, and she will see your tactic as lame. Red pill/ PUA tactics are absolutely transparent if you know what to look for. And they make men look like losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:42 AM
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The issue with this is that you are always more replaceable to a girl. So unless you’re already “high value” (which you’re not, because you are resorting to red pill/ PUA tactics to get what naturals get… naturally), she’s gonna laugh in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:19 AM
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“What other people think of me isn’t my business.” I wear what I want. Deal with your own emotions about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:26 PM
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First: rape is not about sex, it’s about power. Second: rape is one of the most traumatic things a person can experience. Third: WTAF is this take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:35 PM
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Better according to whom though? It seems like you are making the unilateral call that your way = better. Which is controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:08 PM
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Expecting someone to mold themselves to your desires? Yes, expect disappointment. Expecting growth? Normal. You can expect to better each other, but you can’t expect to control the outcome. Ideally people change for themselves, and their partners benefit from that. Changing for someone else is rarely without resentment and disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:13 PM
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That’s a fast lane to disappointment. You date someone where they’re at, not where you want them to be, because they might never get there. Nobody just starts wearing skimpy clothing and posting thirst traps and entertaining DMs when they get into a relationship. They were like that when you got with them. So trying to change that is controlling. A boundary means that when it’s crossed, you change your behavior (ie you leave them). Controlling means trying to change someone else’s behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:51 PM
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In your analogy: normal healthy ambitious men are chocolate. AT is chocolate with laxatives in it. And arsenic. That you found behind a urinal in a public bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:35 PM
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Run off to Turkey to fix your face and body dear. Maybe then you can compete
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:33 PM
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You’re not attractive now. The only reason you’re perceived as more attractive is because of white supremacy. And you’re still under the white mans thumb. Women of color globally are so much more attractive than you. Specifically you. Go back to the glow up and see what they can do to make you even marginally attractive. Put down the pastries and get a waistline maybe. Oh wait. No matter how much weight you lose you’re still gonna have a flat ugly ass. That’s why you all emulate Black culture. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:27 PM
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And you’re ugly too? Lol no wonder you hate Black women. Naturally just so much more attractive than you so you have to try to tear them down because you’re sad and jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:23 PM
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The wall hits white women super hard at like 24. I bet there are Black women in their 50s with better skin than you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:22 PM
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I like men dear. And somehow I’m able to control my lusty impulses when they are cavorting around in their underwear with their nipples out and dripping dick prints.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:44 AM
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Lol you’re projecting dear. I’m raising a discussion point, but you seem to be the one getting emotional. Very feminine behavior. Not very alpha. Do all men wear briefs? No. So if underwear is inherently sexual in a beach setting, there’s a lot of male thots around who need to cover up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:35 AM
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Why just speedos? Most swim shorts don’t cover much more than boxers? If women in their “underwear” is sexual than so is men in theirs. Regardless of whether it’s boxers or briefs. Be consistent in your prudishness please
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:28 AM
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It’s only good if they’re doing it for free because they’ve been trafficked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:18 AM
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What about men in shorts at the beach? Is that sexual? They’re basically wet boxer shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:17 AM
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I’d say the reason many working women want a provider is to make up for the added domestic value women are expected to provide. Married women do something like 7 more hours per week of unpaid labor than single women. And that’s before kids enter the picture. So a man making more money is just pulling the weight he’s not pulling domestically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:16 AM
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If that’s what helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:25 PM
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Sounds like mutual dissatisfaction but enjoy I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:10 PM
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I doubt it honestly. She probably tolerates you because you have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:55 PM
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They didn’t want to hurt your feelings because they didn’t find you attractive. Also, your response says a lot about your personality, which is probably another big reason being “ambitious and nice” got you nowhere. You sound like a “nice guy” not a person who is actually kind, which is what women (not females) do actually like. Anyway to answer your question I like a man who is attractive to me (and I have a fairly narrow band of attraction), smart, ambitious, kind, funny, cool, dresses well, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:39 PM
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You sound like a terrible lay who just learned jackhammering from porn and knows nothing else about pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:46 PM
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Quick question: are you 32 or 38? And are you fat and married or looking for dating advice? Your post history is a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:41 PM
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Do you know any women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:57 AM
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But the majority of them choose one. The only ones I hear talking about “rich men don’t care about your career” are broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:55 AM
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Did you miss the memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:37 AM
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Lol oh yes the mentally ill feminist trope. Original, dear. Bless your little red pill heart
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:52 PM
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I know enough from your comment not to like you ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:32 PM
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Feminists don’t hate men. We hate men like you. I love well-adjusted men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:06 PM
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Oh I thought we were going by the Kevin Samuels definition, which is where I heard that term. In any case, many of my professional friends are married to 666 guys. I can only think of one that’s short, but the rest are tall, handsome, and well off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:28 PM
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The world would be better if we dumped them all on a deserted island, but I still found the video to be a pretty spot on critique of FnF
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:38 PM
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Do you know them personally? My entire social circle is “HVM” marrying their equals in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:27 PM
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If I got through my contacts or instagram followers (and I keep my follower count minuscule and private) I can show you a dozen “HVM” who married women in their thirties, while in their thirties making >250k. Comments like this just point to the fact that you don’t know any actual “HVM.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:21 PM
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Oh, sorry, antifeminist -45k subscribers. And pussypassdenied for good measure Sheer number of subscribers does not negate my point that misogynist subs are all over Reddit spewing incel vitriol. And that’s not even getting to the NSFW subs I don’t even want to look at or give name to. Reddit tolerates plenty of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:50 PM
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Againstmatrimony Lengforgirf Wherehaveallthegoodmengone Againstfeminism Fnfsnark None of those are banned or quarantined and they all have a distinctly misogynist bent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:36 PM
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You think keys don’t break? What if the lock is rusty? It’s a stupid analogy. All of them are stupid analogies. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:19 PM
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The pencil that gets sharpened a million times gets shorter and stops working, but the pencil sharpener keeps running no matter how many pencils go in it. It’s a stupid analogy. Wait…. Did a fragile manospherian block me? Such emotional behavior from the stoic sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:45 PM
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There are plenty of misogynist subs still up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:35 PM
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right. We’ll agree to disagree. The difference is that femcels bitch on the internet and incels commit mass murder 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:03 PM
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Not as popular but surely more vile. Any of the fresh and fit subs, against matrimony, wherehaveallthegoodmengone, againstfeminism are all just as bad as FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:37 AM
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For every FDS there are 5 misogynist subs stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:47 AM
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The natural, every time. It’s like a boob job - you can always tell, and there’s always some artifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:33 AM
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Nah… there’s a glut of 30 something single high earning men in big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:55 AM
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“Look at it. Look at that.” Says a lot about how this man views women-objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:32 PM
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What signs of narcissism do you see here? That term is entirely overused. Is she a vapid TikTok basic bish who annoyingly documents her basic ass dates? Yes. Does that make her a narcissist! Not necessarily. Nothing in the video suggests she is playing with them. She just went on two first dates. If she likes them, she’ll continue to see them. What’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:39 PM
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Court enforced child support isn’t a legal tie to the mother? The minute she has a baby by you she can subpoena your DNA to establish paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:44 PM
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Still weird and gross. At 25 you’ve hopefully lived on your own as a full grown adult with a job for 3 years. A high schooler is not your peer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:48 PM
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If you’ve gone to college or the military and are 25 chasing the 18 year old you knew when you were 15 and she was 8, that’s creepy AF. You have all this life experience and she just learned how to drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:31 PM
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You looked up to him. It was not an equal friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:14 PM
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Nah that’s a babysitter. Sure there’s a “pack” but the 16 year old doesn’t have the same relationship with a 9 year old that they do with another 16 year old, come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:07 PM
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How would they have friendships when one would have been a senior when the other was in 5th grade?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:24 PM
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This is a stupid argument unless you’re going to be child free. The minute a kid pops out and y’all sign the birth certificate, you are legally bound to that child and the government is all in your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:32 AM
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I love men. I have a strong disdain (and at the same time a bit of pity) for manospherians. TRP, PPD, and the Black manosphere have just laid out the red flags to recognize so I can keep them far out of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:56 PM
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The girl getting approached looks pretty intoxicated. All my friends are attractive but we look out for each other and will check in visually like “you cool or you need an out?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:03 AM
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It really doesn’t matter as long as he reaches a minimum threshold that means we can enjoy the same basic things without any awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:12 PM
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Be as hot as you can, yes. Physical attraction is one important attribute in mate selection. But it’s not the only one, and it’s just the entry price. Most men make themselves more attractive by being fit and well groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:56 PM
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You know who else had status, lifestyle, and persuasiveness? Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:56 PM
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What if I told you that common sense like “work hard, take care of your body, stop whining” could be found without the steaming stinking side dish of misogynist bullshit? Like if I’m like “the kill all men type feminists do have a great point about so and so, so I agree with that part.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:36 PM
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You would have to change your entire mentality, and from your other replies, that would take years of deprogramming. I have a hard “no manospherian” policy. You defend Andrew Tate even though any man who gets sexual gratification from “pretending” to beat and humiliate women is a sick MF. But I’ll tell you about the guy I’m dating right now. I met him out, and he was attractive, well dressed. He approached me in a confident way, but allowed me to reciprocate flirting before going further. When w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:32 AM
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That’s just a prostitute. All you need for that is some money. What’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:37 AM
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What makes you qualified for beautiful women to sleep with you? What do you have to offer them? The amazing thing about the modern era (for women) is that fewer women have to depend on men for basic societal existence, so we don’t have to sleep with otherwise undeserving men. The entitlement is wild. Nobody owes you pussy. Beautiful women will sleep with you if they like you. That means if they are attracted to the overall package, adjusting for what is important to them. Want a gold digger? Mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:27 AM
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What responsibilities do you expect in a relationship that take up so much time and brain space it has to be a woman’s only task?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:11 PM
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What if she has a lesbian or bisexual female friend? What about a gay male friend? What about a non-binary friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:59 AM
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I kept waiting for the punchline
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:48 AM
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If the friendship predates our relationship, no problem. But she’s going to be our friend now. I don’t mind if they go out and grab a drink or dinner sometimes if she’s in town, but it’s not going to be a text all day call in the middle of the night kind of friendship if you’re my partner. And she can’t be shady to me. And you have to be the kind of man who has platonic female friends. As a single woman, I actively seek to befriend my platonic male friends’ spouses - sometimes I will even just m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:14 PM
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What does “amazing” mean to you? By your own logic: clearly you’re not rich enough, because if you were, you could get a hot western girl to wash your feet with her hair. Since you aren’t high value enough to get that treatment here, you’ve fucked off to Thailand where you can buy the treatment you want at a discount. You’re like A***** T*** trying to get corruptocracy at a discount. If you truly felt like a king in your own soul, you wouldn’t need the external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:47 PM
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A feminist is perfectly capable of treating a man well. Hence the 20+ year long marriages of educated women. Treating someone well does not mean submitting your entire will to them. 90% of college educated women marry by age 46. I thought feelings over facts was a feminine attribute? Tell me, what it is about submission that strokes your ego if it’s not insecurity? Why do you need to dominate a woman to feel loved and respected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:18 PM
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The divorce rate for high earning college educated women is 20%. 80% of high earning college women will be married more than 20 years. You don’t have to be a “feminist boss babe” to have a fulfilling career. Men like you need a submissive waifu because something is lacking in your own self esteem that makes you need to lord over someone. Secure, confident high earners happily marry accomplished women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:42 AM
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If you count marriage propositions… all of them I’ve given the chance. I date very, very selectively. I have that luxury because I already had a great love, had kids, and I’m financially independent. Sorry I’m not the type to get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:24 PM
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You adjust your parameters, sure, but realistically I’m not going to adjust my dating pool to encompass men making 0 dollars or 40 million dollars. Nor will I likely ever date a White man. People’s standards may relax some over time, but they don’t drastically change. Like I said, in reality, your social circle is a much bigger determinant of your dating pool than comparing your preference to “all Americans.” According to the calculator there are 100 women like me in America, lol. Of course attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:26 PM
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Negative feedback is different from shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:44 PM
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What I’m saying is that, due to the fact that we as humans tend to assort, the denominator is never going to be “all Americans.” If I only ever socialize with Black people who make >100k, it doesn’t matter that they only represent 0.x% of the total American population, because that is not my dating pool. So even though the calculator says only .11% of the population meets my criteria, upwards of 30% of men I’m around meet my criteria. The math principle here is x/100 > x/1,000,000. It also doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:43 PM
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No need to shame, just let people experience the natural consequences of their actions. Shaming just makes people defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:13 PM
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IMO it’s a tool to shame women for their preferences. Look at the difference in titles. Realitycalc vs igotstandardsbro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:00 PM
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I can see how that might… give someone hope? But in reality attraction is a two way street. If you are not your type’s type, it doesn’t really matter how many more of them there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:44 PM
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Social media just increases your chances of meeting someone who meets your criteria. In real life, you aren’t exposed to the number of people the calculator uses to generate these numbers. In real life, one socializes generally within a smaller group of people like oneself. So the probability of meeting someone who fits your criteria is increased by proximity. So, for example, I only date Black men. But I also socialize in spaces that are 90% Black. So the denominator is much much smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:30 PM
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The problem is that in real life, you aren’t socially in the same circle as 100% of the population. For example, I’m at 0.11% in the female delusion calculator, but my social circle is 30% men who meet my criteria, more if I let go of my height preference. I happen to also be their preference, apparently. So if I go socialize, I can throw a rock and find someone who meets my criteria and take it from there. Because the men I like congregate in the same social echelon. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:10 PM
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When’s the last time you saw a 5’4 male model? Height is valued differently between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:36 PM
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Do you think this woman actually represents intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:46 PM
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Unless you flaunt your cash to attract gold diggers, the level of attractiveness you are going to attract is generally not too widely varied. So most men aren’t going to find themselves in a situation where someone “in their league” who makes a lot less is going to be much more attractive than someone who makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:35 PM
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Many of the housewives are these types. Or former career girls who now stay home or can pull 100k working part time. All things being equal, a high earning man is going to choose a beautiful woman of his socioeconomic status over a beautiful high school dropout. It’s also because he’s surrounded by women in his social circle, and that’s what he chooses from. I swear people think that smart, accomplished women can’t also be beautiful, when that’s not the case. Women understand that looks attract …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:20 PM
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Nobody watches their day shows, and their day shows are apparently about things like finances (although from what I hear they promote crypto scams). Show me where they are debating with a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:41 PM
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You must not know any lawyers. Professional dignity is huge. Even being on a panel with OF girls would be suspect. Professionals rightfully have high standards for men, and they are overwhelmingly able to marry men at their socioeconomic level. Anyone who thinks high earning men won’t marry a high earning woman in her 30s is delusional. Assortative mating is the way it goes in actual real life. Fresh and fit are spinning a narrative that doesn’t actually exist in the real world of professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:24 PM
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Not all degrees are equivalent. Degrees aren’t that hard to come by, depending on the institution. And the show self selects for attention seekers with no professional reputation to protect. Any female attorney would tear Myron to pieces, but do you think a single one would stoop to going on the show?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:15 PM
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They are not concerned about an actual respectable reputation or they wouldn’t be coming on the show. Most of the professional women I know haven’t even heard of fresh and fit, their instagrams are private, and they… would never ever disrespect themselves by going on this show. It self selects for not so bright attention seekers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:05 PM
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Funny how career women overwhelmingly marry their equals and the divorce rate among them is half or less the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 12:01 PM
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What professional or academic is going to risk her professional reputation to be seen on this show? No one on that level is stepping near this stage. It’s so far beneath them, it would do more harm than good. But they would run circles around the hosts arguments. Myron’s forehead vein would actually explode. These dorks need low rent women they can “intellectually” bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:47 AM
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Or just make up entirely…. Your whole persona screams LARP
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:38 AM
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Spot on. Also it’s hilarious that they’re like “don’t spend a dime on these hoes” but have seeking arrangements profiles. Nobody is fucking them for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:47 PM
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I think anyone who says things like a high earning man would prefer an only fans model to a woman of his social standings doesn’t know any high earning men and is just projecting his own unobtainable desires for attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:28 PM
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If a transgender persons identity can be explained by a brain that resembles the opposite sex, how is gender an entirely social construct? Especially given that these parts of the brain do not give them the sexual characteristics of the opposite sex? Isn’t that to say that to “feel like” you are the opposite gender is rooted in some biology? I’m thinking of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:06 PM
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What’s interesting with this is at the same time that the trans community is citing studies that their brains are biologically like the other sex, the feminist community is citing studies that these differences are actually minimal. It would seem the studies that support transgender people as being biologically in the wrong body with respect to their brains would also dispute the concept that gender is entirely socially constructed. I’ve always wondered about that. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:32 PM
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You don’t have to put woman in quotes, because that’s her gender identity.. Her biological sex is a fact of nature, but her gender is constructed. The reality is that your gender identity can be congruent with your biological sex or not, but if you don’t face distress with any incongruence, it’s not considered a mental disorder. What issues is that going to cause for anyone but who wants to have sex with her and herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:33 PM
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are you sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:01 PM
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Gender dysphoria: A concept designated in the DSM-5-TR as clinically significant distress or impairment related to gender incongruence, which may include desire to change primary and/or secondary sex characteristics. Not all transgender or gender diverse people experience gender dysphoria. source
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:27 PM
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Precisely. I didn’t make that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:09 PM
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The dysphoria is considered a disorder, not the gender identity itself. So if a woman has a penis and is cool with her gender identity and her body, it’s not considered a disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:58 AM
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Like honor killings?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:54 AM
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I think it’s up to a couple to define how they want to divide labor. A man “providing” for a woman is exchanging financial value for domestic value. So if a woman decides that she wants to do that, more power to her. Same with a man. That doesn’t make the financial provider “better than” the domestic provider. They are complementary roles. Now if a man provides financially and expects in exchange submission and complete obedience just because he’s “the provider,” that’s sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:39 PM
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Exactly. The “traditional concept of hypergamy,” much like a lot of the red pill, is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:09 PM
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I want someone “on my level,” adjusted for male dimorphic characteristics. So a man in my height and fitness percentile is taller and stronger than me, by default. I think men are hypergamous too, you just don’t know that you value the things you want a superior in. You want a woman who’s more beautiful than you, more nurturing, more flexible, a better cook, better at domestic duties, etc. In an ideal relationship both people are “better” than the other in complementary ways. Edit to add my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:09 PM
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So then the same thing goes for men. “It’s just your turn” relates to every person who didn’t marry as a virgin and leave the earth as a celibate widow. Why is that posited as relating only to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:40 PM
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I responded to your first point :). I’ll edit it to respond to your questions so we can keep the discussion tidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:29 PM
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Well, I didn’t fuck him yet, because he’s still earning that, although he’s almost there. His whole approach was very genuinely masculine, not the play acting of manospherians. I’ve had the misfortune of dating one of those, and I took notes. Manospherians are working from a script, and naturals are just working from themselves. It’s like how you can always tell a boob job. Or fake pearls. They’re just never going to be the same as men who are naturally attractive and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:16 PM
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Those Venn diagram circles overlap so much it’s essentially the same thing. Incels turn to the manosphere and red pill because they can’t naturally attract women. The incel mentality remains even if they can trick some poor girl into fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:51 PM
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Very early in the article: “Because lesions larger than 3 cm are almost always malignant…” Why’d you ignore the multilobulated contour that’s highly suspicious? Are hamartomas generally associated with satellite lesions? Also the first paper is about PET scans, which we have not seen. Another paper: “lesions smaller than 2 cm were likely to be benign, while of lesions larger than 2 cm, only 14% were benign” source
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:34 AM
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Aggressive benign lung tumors are exceedingly rare. Like, case report rare. And they don’t form satellite lesions, AFAIK. “More aggressive” is code for malignant. Unless you’re a radiologist, oncologist, or pulmonologist, in which case I’ll defer to your knowledge. Also, 4.4 cm when the threshold is 5 cm… edit: actually, it’s 5 mm. So actually it is an “oh shit” mass Edit: per the report, it has a multilobulated contour. Per the following article I can’t link https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:05 AM
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My interpretation is based off the radiologic findings. The family doctor likely did not interpret the image. The radiologist says “it could be a hamartoma but these specific findings make a malignancy enough of a possibility that a biopsy is needed. This is a step up from “get another scan in 6 months” which is usually protocol for absolutely not noteworthy nodules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:36 AM
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The ct was interpreted by a radiologist. Enhancing lesions with internal calcifications, satellite lesions, and infiltration into surrounding tissue sounds pretty damn suspicious. https://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/AJR.07.2429
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:29 AM
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This wasn’t just a nodule though. It had some suspicious architecture from what I read. It’s probably just someone he paid off for a ticket out of jail though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:07 AM
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There is an inverse relationship between how whitewashed a person of color is and how attractive their white partner is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:02 AM
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I hope I don’t sound fatphobic, but I’d say the same emotional issues that cause overeating and overweight in a lot of situations would manifest in other ways that may make formerly fat people less desirable in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 12:53 AM
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Wasn’t it the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:22 PM
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“Me, a guy who is neither superficial nor shallow, and will fuck anything with a pussy as long as she is hot and young” Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:15 PM
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Petition to change “short man energy” and “little dick energy” to “manosphere energy.” Same connotation, no body shaming. Actually you don’t have to sign my petition I’m just making it a thing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:09 AM
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Sounds normal and well adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:30 PM
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Yep! It’s protective. Disgust is a strong protector - we shrink from the smell of poop and rotting things because they will make us sick. We get the ick because the people who give it to us will be bad for us. I bet if someone studied it enough they would find that ick signals come from the lower brain and not the frontal cortex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:29 PM
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I have a theory, based on the last time I developed the ick. The ick is a fail safe for when you are plowing past what your intuition is telling you is wrong. It may be unconscious, your brain and heart may be ignoring what your gut knows, and then… your vag will say YOU CANNOT DO THIS. And you will become viscerally disgusted by someone and then, only then will you listen to yourself. I literally went from thinking I liked someone to not even being able to stomach his smell. Given how primal sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:15 PM
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So… if every authority on domestic violence uses the power and control wheel to define domestic violence, and on that wheel is the behavior “controlling who she talks to” and this man is literally controlling who she talks to… that’s not domestic violence? If you have a problem with how domestic violence is defined, take it up with thehotline.org or literally every expert on domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:55 AM
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Oh you’re one of those. There’s a difference between “not wanting his GF to talk to other men” and demanding that she doesn’t, demanding she limit her social media use, and demanding access to her private communications. Like I pointed out in the actual, literal definition of domestic violence… this is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:21 AM
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In the literal definition of abuse. See “uses isolation” “Controlling… who she sees or talks to”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:58 AM
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Here it is. “I want to groom her”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:17 PM
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Normal behavior “this makes me uncomfortable, so I’ll ask you to stop, respect your autonomy, and change my behavior if I can’t accept yours” ie leave. Controlling, abusive behavior: “this makes me uncomfortable, so I’m going to invade your privacy and make demands about your use of the internet.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:13 PM
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Abuse is about power and control. You are absolutely being abusive by being this controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:10 PM
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Sex is pretty sacred to me and not just a physical act of pleasure and connection. I don’t want to share that with more than one person at a time, nor do I want a partner who doesn’t feel the same. It’s not a religious thing for me. It’s a biological thing. Something that has the potential to bring a baby into the world, to me, deserves exclusivity. Also, I like my pH balance and community dick would fuck that right up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:07 PM
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Doctors get the same training in regards to breast and genital exams. And we are talking about professional massages, not “massages” given by prostitutes in disguised brothels. I’m curious why you can’t see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:55 AM
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Is relaxation by definition a sexual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:28 AM
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Plenty of doctors abuse patients. Nurse practioners and PAs have far less training than doctors. Would you expect them to be more likely to sexually abuse patients during a gynecological exam? That’s an enormous reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:14 AM
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Occam’s razor says “fit feminine and agreeable” sounds close enough to Kevin Samuels “fit feminine and friendly” trope to assume he’s a manospherian and run far far away. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:07 PM
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Yes. Please enlighten me. Show me one argument that doesn’t show insecurity or controlling behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:34 AM
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Do you feel that way about paying for the gynecologist? How about the primary care doctor doing her breast exams, feeling all on her titties like that 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:13 AM
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Is that SIGN language? I thought that was a feminine behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:56 PM
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Sure it was. And yes I do but I find the “this you” entertaining “Nah, she's well past the wall, and her mind and body has been devastated by the trauma of childbirth and the never ending nightmare of motherhood. I'm not worried.” Yeah sounds like you adore and cherish her I thought getting emotional and blocking people was a feminine trait 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:52 PM
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I think you misunderstood my comment. I was explaining my definition of a dog whistle by providing another example of a dog whistle. I’m assuming (based on location and proximity to Kevin Samuels’ rhetoric) the profile is of a Black male earning >100k. It’s more of a hypothesis than an assumption, if you will. The “fit feminine friendly (ie agreeable” trope is directly out of the Kevin Samuels playbook. As to the rest of your comment… The term dog whistle is simply to describe this man’s thinly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:15 PM
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I say dog whistle as in “I say ‘woke’ when I mean Black so other racists can recognize me.” This man uses a variation of KS “3Fs” to let women know he’s a “high value man” who is going to “exercise options” and who expects a woman to “get on his program.” There is a minority of women who will want that life, and he’s calling for them with his phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:43 PM
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“Who gives a shit what she craves, nobody will have her, and she can't do better. This is the power of leverage.” You said this about your wife but my assumption is lazy? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:35 PM
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Enh, if you hadn’t deleted all your comments (which, as I recall, were “profoundly” sexist and right in line with having drunk the KS koolaid) I’d pull up receipts to show my assumption was correct. You’re pulling the purple card because you want to look reasonable now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:32 PM
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I wouldn’t be in a relationship with a man who doesn’t bathe, but I wouldn’t put “looking for a man who bathes” in a dating profile. “Fit feminine and agreeable” is a dog whistle, although it really just does a nice job of saying “I’m a walking red flag, swipe right for a miserable time”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:26 PM
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No no no! He’s a High Value Man™️ which means that any day now, hundreds of 20 year old virgin models will be running to “wash his feet with their hair” (a quote from the High Value Messiah himself, Kevin Samuels)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:27 PM
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You were a big commenter in the Kevin Samuels sub, so I’ll say you’re being disingenuous here. To Kevin Samuels, cooperation was not a two way street. Direct quote “women are supposed to cooperate with men, not the other way around!” He also advocated for women “getting on a man’s program.” So in this context, it absolutely doesn’t “depend” and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:48 AM
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Ah yes, the monolith that is women. Gotta love em
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:35 AM
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In this context it means “I took the Kevin Samuels pill” 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:32 AM
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… relaxing. Peaceful. Serene. No sex involved. She’s not your girlfriend, she’s a professional. It’s only sexual if both parties are into it sexually. You being into it sexually as a client makes it creepy. Picture this. The hot rich guy gently spreads my legs, lubes up his big plastic speculum, and gingerly inserts it into my moist love tunnel. He murmurs, “is this comfortable?” That’s what you sound like trying to sexualize a massage bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:24 PM
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What does sensual mean to you? You’re sexualizing therapeutic touch. The face is an intimate area - you wouldn’t let a stranger stroke your face, so is it intimate or “sensual” when an aesthetician does it? A massage therapist doesn’t touch your breasts or genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:38 PM
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So by your logic, if pizza delivery isn’t inherently sexual, than neither is massage. I have never gotten aroused during a massage. Even when an attractive man was performing it. Because it’s not a sexual situation. I think you’re thinking of brothels and not legitimate massage parlors. And “rubdowns” not therapeutic massage. Even Swedish massage is therapeutic, not sexual. But if massages are as arousing as you say, are you going to request a man to perform yours? Or are you going to not get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:48 PM
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So by your rationale, if you can have a sexual fantasy about it, it’s by definition sexual? So all that dirty nurse porn means nursing is sexual? A rundown feels good. A massage is sometimes uncomfortable and painful, by necessity, because it’s a therapeutic loosening of tight muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:33 PM
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Lolllll I’m guessing you wouldn’t mandate that he only visit male waxers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:49 PM
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Stemming from this - so if you’re in a relationship, are you not allowed to get massages? Seeing as I’m sure you’d think getting one from a man is “gay,” is getting one from a woman cheating? Are you just not allowed to get therapeutic massages when you’re in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:44 PM
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For yourself or for your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:42 PM
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That’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:01 PM
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Did you get sexually aroused by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:50 AM
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Why not? I can’t think of a reason you would give that won’t reveal insecurity or controlling behavior. But you’re welcome to try
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:49 AM
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You watch too many movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:41 AM
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Note the difference between sensual and sexual. It’s a peaceful atmosphere but not a sexual one. And you don’t go to get a massage because you’re touch starved, generally (especially if you’re partnered?). You go to work out knots. It’s actually pretty painful. Like going to the dentist, it’s something you feel good about after, not necessarily during. Some pedicures take place in very sensual environments - champagne, quiet lighting and music, etc. would you call that a sexual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:40 AM
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book recommendation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:41 PM
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That’s your preference for your body. What you’re saying in your previous comment is that you have a preference for what your partner does with her body, which doesn’t take into account her preferences, just yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:59 PM
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Enh, massage is therapeutic practice. “Intimate massage” is foreplay. Both my husband and my gynecologist have had a finger in my vag and it was a very different experience. Likewise, I’ve never gotten off on a breast exam. Do you get aroused when the doctor tells you to turn your head and cough? And getting your hair washed? In a basin in a salon? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:51 PM
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Never noticed but interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:46 PM
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Being cautious is getting a gift certificate to a reputable establishment. Actual massage therapists are required to be certified/ licensed. At the point of professional licensure, gender becomes moot. It came up because I got a massage from a male therapist yesterday (and it was great, but not a sexual experience) and it reminded me of that incident. I wondered whether my thinking (that he was being controlling) was skewed, so I sought public opinion. Independent of that behavior he was a bad p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:37 PM
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First of all, Schopenhauer is awesome. Second, is a visit to the gynecologist an intimate experience? How about the mammographer? Have you ever had a massage? It’s not at all a sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:22 PM
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No, happy ending places are brothels disguised as massage parlors. That’s like saying cigar shops aren’t legitimate businesses because some “smoke shops” sell weed in the back. I did leave him shortly after though, and turns out it was a very, very good decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:41 PM
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I was the receiver. Just feeling out the public opinion because I felt a way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:26 PM
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A man who says “I’m buying this only if you do it how I say” is never getting husband privileges. That being said, I do believe in some spouse privileges and hold myself to those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:22 PM
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Massage therapists are professionals who touch bodies for a living, just like doctors. It’s in no way a sexual experience. Edit: aside from the obvious “happy ending” places but I’m talking about actual professional massages
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:17 PM
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Intimate settings. Would you expect your girl to exclusively seek out female professionals?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:15 PM
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I see the difference between expressing (and respecting) a preference and making it a stipulation. One is communicative and one is controlling, to me. This was “I’ll pay for massages but it has to be with a female therapist.” I wanted public opinion because he turned out to be super controlling and I broke up with him after several other red flags popped up pretty early on. I was getting a massage yesterday (from a man, totally non sexual) and I thought of it. I was like “oh maybe that was an ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:14 PM
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Fair, although there are plenty of medicinal applications for massage (like lymphatic drainage in breast cancer patients post mastectomy). In any case, they are both professional services.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:01 PM
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I’ll be honest, I can’t think of a “hear me out” that would convince me that the man wasn’t just insecure and controlling. “Hear me out… I don’t want a professional touching muh woman in a nonsexual way” “Hear me out… I don’t trust you not to ask for a happy ending” “Hear me out… it’s not you I don’t trust, it’s men… they can’t control their base instincts in a professional setting” Nah, I’ll just see myself right out the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:41 PM
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What’s the difference between a male massage therapist and a male gynecologist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:35 PM
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What about a male gynecologist? Chiropractor? Mammography tech? Colonoscopist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:32 PM
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The question is not about your preference but about whether your partner is entitled to stipulate their preference about who touches your body
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:31 PM
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I was the receiver. I thought it was ridiculous, but I wanted to know if it was a thing people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:05 PM
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Lol no this actually happened to me - I briefly dated a guy who paid for massages but wanted to stipulate that it only be a woman therapist. I thought it was a red flag for insecurity and controlling behavior, but I wanted to calibrate my normal meter with public opinion. Seems I was right, and this is weirdo behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:02 PM
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No, it sounds ridiculous. If you want to be single, be single. If you want to do “freak nasty stuff,” find a willing partner. If you want an open relationship, find a willing partner (and don’t trip when she uses her “hall pass”). If you want to commit to monogamy, commit to monogamy, period. That’s fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:07 PM
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Cute. I’d question your definition of “better than,” but honestly I’m not that interested in the answer. I also don’t find it super challenging to say that men who have the option to lie and break their vows but don’t are of better character than those who do, but if that’s impressive to you, awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:39 PM
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Sorry bro I’m not digging through that garbage to prove a point to a “red pill man” . I heard him say that verbatim on a stream though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:50 PM
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I heard him once sputter “women are beneath men.” Is that the truth in your estimation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:02 PM
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Someone who can talk to anyone easily and make them smile without knowing them. The ones who flirt (not in a creepy way, just playful and sweet) with old ladies. Someone who is confident but doesn’t exude arrogance (which is usually just hiding insecurity).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:05 PM
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If I were interested in him romantically, I would let him (not expect him to) pay if he offered. That being said, I’ve never been on a date where the man didn’t rush to pay the check. If I weren’t I would insist on paying half so it would set the tone that I wasn’t just on a foodie call. Then I would let him down gently. Then again, I usually figure out I’m not interested well before a date is set, so if they’ve gotten a first date it’s because I’m romantically/ sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:54 PM
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