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Would you commit if the woman is a virgin by choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:29 PM
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23 year old female virgin from a Muslim background living in the west here, both influenced by choice and cultural upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:27 PM
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Caleb is just a tall white guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:24 PM
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I see, like Asian women? (I'm hapa of Latina background)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:23 PM
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Define "exotic women"? I've often been called that (I'm non-black.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:23 PM
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23f and didn't Muslim background
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:56 PM
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23F, 0. Muslim background. No sex unless there's commitment. Comfortable with any count as long as its not something ridiculous like 100
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:16 PM
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People don't like to hear the truth sweaty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:00 PM
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Fuck off to fds where people like you belong lmfaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:54 PM
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Lmao they're muslim
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:54 PM
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Yes but I'm from a socially Conservative background with ethnic immigrant parents. They generally disapprove of casual dating. Anyway they will pump and dump you within 6 months
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:52 PM
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Lmao they're gonna leave you after a while
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:49 PM
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Just because you're a self proclaimed stacy doesn't entitle you to chad. Chad wants more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:48 PM
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Enjoy your 40s with kittens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:47 PM
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Lmao so why is there an American flag in your bio Keep chasing chad who won't commit Enjoy your cats
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:45 PM
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Lmao that was when there was a free trial ages ago. Don't play that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:44 PM
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Lmfao this has to be a larp. We would all know who you are if you're american Also any fat woman can be a bikini model in 2021
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:43 PM
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Also top tip: stop chasing men who are out of your league because they never will commit!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:40 PM
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Lmfao I exercise regularly and probably can lift more than YOO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:40 PM
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Yeah and you're delusional about your desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:35 PM
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Stop meeting men on tinder if you demand commitment lmaooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:34 PM
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Yeah for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:33 PM
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Why would they keep pumping and dumping you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:31 PM
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Doesn't matter. Any 4 can be a model these days especially if you're female. Seen Chika Orianka?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:17 PM
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You can't have your cake and eat it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:14 PM
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For what, small alternative clothes companies? That doesn't mean shit, any person with unique features these days can be a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:13 PM
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This and she's most likely delusional lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:11 PM
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Lmao you're in that "all men are trash" phase. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:08 PM
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Lmao this, she's deluding herself and is most likely facially average or below average. Stop demanding commitment like a nagging granny from men out of your league because they never will
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:07 PM
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Lmao after all that grooming and makeup guys only want to pump and dump? You're probably average looking under that mask. Plenty of women have skinny bodies. It's nothing special. More women groom themselves more than men, in hopes of attracting chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:05 PM
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And nerdy guy doesn't mean a hot guy who happens to wear glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:05 PM
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Lmao delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:03 PM
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How attractive do you want your man to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:03 PM
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Agree with this. Those guys have too many options and she's extremely picky. Also I looked at her history and she's Goth. A lot of guys aren't attracted to outwardly Goth-appearing women unless if they're alt themselves. Also why look on tinder for an ltr? That's a hookup app and hot guys on there have so many options and don't want commitment. Also it's delusional to demand commitment yet she's already put off on the 2nd date with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:00 PM
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Lmfao this. She should look at her social circle is she's demanding commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:58 PM
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Wait for Prince Charming then. All that grooming and makeup doesn't mean shit if you're unattractive facially.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:56 PM
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Men should start having weight preferences if they can get away with height preferences Mfs being 5'1 yet demanding 6'3 guys only "because it's my preference, I want to feel small in heels tee hee"
/r/MensRights05/12/21 01:35 PM
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Awareness, self-defense and to know exactly who to watch out for. Also for self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:32 AM
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If he's attractive and emotional of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:06 AM
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What about if the woman is Muslim with strict parents. Most women I knew in this category practiced halal dating where casual sex was strictly forbidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:14 AM
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A Muslim (MENA-origin) female friend had a similar problem; in her early 20s and a virgin. Because of her religion and parents' expectations she couldn't just easily give in like that on dates and had no choice but to hold on to the outdated view of love and relationships. She now has finally found a guy who was willing to wait along with her (albeit similar ethnic background) and they are now in a budding stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:02 AM
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22F, virgin (by choice) and this is exactly what my parents recommend me telling my date should I go out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:49 AM
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22F here, virgin (by choice, I will NOT be having sex before monogamy) and will be in a similar boat as OP. And this is exactly what I'm intending to do!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:35 AM
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Pretty much zach cox tbh. Longish hair, tan, muscle, 6'3, no facial hair, well-dressed softboy style. (this is what most women my age would find attractive but to be honest is way out of my reach. The no facial hair part is extremely important.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:58 PM
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And if a guy tells a woman that her pussy stinks or her ass is a pancake, it's MiSoGyNy. Stop body shaming.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:22 PM
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"iT's MiSoGyNy iF a MaN ChEaTs oN HeR" -also cheats on a man for better options- ​ he has a heart too you know
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:21 PM
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femcel dating strategy
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:19 PM
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I'm another woman with mostly male friends and I agree with this. If Reddit Mods won't delete FDS because they are whaman then what they say should be memed. I'm a regular over on FDSRedPills and I always like to poke fun of what they say. If incels on .is get made fun of, so should femcels on FDS. They're the equivalents of each other.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:17 PM
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Clown world. Insulting white men is just as bad as insulting a woman of colour (I am a woman of colour.)
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:15 PM
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Entitlement through the roof. She should learn to appreciate that as an act of kindness.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/21 03:14 PM
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Those things on the bottom row...
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/21 01:04 PM
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She shouldn't have put herself down on social media like that. Good luck, missus.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/08/21 05:26 AM
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I'm a uni student, hence "any income"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:17 PM
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not married any race (I prefer white, MENA, hispanic, hapa. I'm hapa.) at least 5' 7" tall not obese any income ​ According to statistical data, the probability a guy of the U.S. male population ages 20 to 26 meets your standards is 45.6% (probably lower tbh.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:14 PM
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redpillwomen, 100%, if you want to keep the man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:45 PM
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Kate Bush Siouxsie Sioux Danielle Dax Anri Rose McDowall/Jill Bryson (Strawberry Switchblade)
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/21 10:18 PM
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Working on everything on this list, thank you for reposting!
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/21 01:31 AM
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I see! The women you described is how I aspire to be and I think I'm getting there! Romantically do they seem to be happy?
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/21 03:57 PM
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Thanks for the support!! I would never shove that kinda thing in a man's face.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/21 01:06 AM
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And that's exactly what I'm planning to do in order to avoid a messy divorce!
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 10:48 PM
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Of course! That's what I hope to do! And I hope he reciprocates!
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 09:30 PM
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I'll try this as soon as I get this degree out of the way! I live with mostly middle aged people in my vicinity (I am not on campus at the moment) so I'll have to try some other options too! (I prefer people born no earlier than 1995). Currently I'm at 23 BMI, but a lot of it seems to be muscle (FFMI is 17.5 at the moment.) Hopefully when things settle back to normal?
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 09:29 PM
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I mean many guys tend to be T types generally (and often would prefer F typed women, preferably the ultra feminine xxFJ types) so I was worried if I would be doing a disservice. I usually am very accommodating and try not to pick fights. In fact, fights are the last thing I'd want.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 07:40 PM
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Thanks again! I do indeed have some items with a feminine vibe in my wardrobe but overall if I have to be honest they do scream "gamine" vibewise as a whole. Oddly enough I've been described as having a "very feminine" body type IRL. I'm hesitant on spending money on new clothes at the moment but I guess I can work around with what I have right now. I own no crop tops, yoga pants or short shorts. I did post on photofeeler but on average I scored around a 7.3 attractivenesswise and lower on the o…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 07:20 PM
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Thanks for the advice! I'll look into both books. I just am afraid of potentially being "used" in a relationship where the guy is seemingly sweet at first but even after a few months he tries to lure me into sex and BAM! gone. In my case the dad is asian! I was just wondering though if I would have to look more "feminine" or "classically pretty" to see if I can LTR a guy I'd prefer.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/21 07:02 PM
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Usually the SMV of an over 30s female is lower than that of a male, and declining too. So women take to r/datingoverthirty to get more gynocentric advice as r/dating is mostly male, therefore most advice there would probably be tailored to males
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:55 AM
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Depends how good looking the guy is/how hot the woman finds him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:51 AM
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I used to not think that was the case. I always thought that the best looking, 666 guys always went for the 19 year old "sweet feminine waitress". But that's just me I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:50 AM
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He's a well known name in red pill communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 12:49 AM
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Good lol
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/21 04:20 PM
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Someone should point out her chubbiness if she has the audacity to body shame like that and see how she feels
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/21 02:34 PM
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Exactly!! Most goth girls IK irl are slightly overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 05:35 PM
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I am a voluntarily celibate hapa female that gets frequently labelled "goth" by peers even though I don't identify as one despite having the goth music taste (Banshees/Cure/SoM/Twins and many more.) I feel that guys who dig the goth aesthetic are more likely to be soyboy simp types. I hardly see Chads go after these women (they seem to prefer blonde sorority types.) I also have noticed that Goth women either tend to be very overweight IRL or slim and busty. And these "simps" often go after the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:19 PM
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I feel this. I feel when guys say they like goth girls they just mean a girl with a choker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:15 PM
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I am!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:14 PM
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Weight filter when?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/04/21 02:30 PM
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I found it very easy to make friends at Uni; I was quite outgoing in fact. However I'll have to admit now that I'm studying at home the vast majority of those friendships were temporary and are nothing more than acquaintances now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:45 PM
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The thing is though, especially where I'm from in Northern Europe, it's easy to make friends at Uni but they fade away after graduation. Even for the most socially adept people. I've had many mates who tell me the exact same thing every time. Even The Student Room seems to agree that while it's easy to make mates at Uni, these friendships are transient: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1197422&page=2
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:34 PM
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This is exactly why I am trying to look less "alt" nowadays, and improve my gregariousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:05 PM
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Why do some have to belittle themselves to do stuff like this -facepalm-
/r/PussyPassDenied08/04/21 11:50 PM
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i forgot what show it was tbh since it was 10 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:13 AM
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nah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:06 AM
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citizenship marriage the guy was a white american, so was the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:51 AM
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A lot of people often say TikTok e-boys are around a 6/10 (give or take 1 point) but they're just well-dressed/groomed, have nice hair, have charisma and an edgy, relatable persona to appeal to teen girls (prime examples are Noah Beck and lilhuddy) I've noticed the same among male bedroom pop stars
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:15 PM
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Definitely. People have to realize that life isn't as perfect as you see on Instagram. Pictures are heavily frauded, and it's highly likely that the following scenarios are happening with whoever the account holder is: 1) instagram female model funded by an older, rich wealthy man in order for her to afford luxury trips overseas/luxury items, even if she's posing with an equally hot boyfriend, that guy could in reality be her friend/cousin/a random gay guy she's posing with to give the illusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:13 PM
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I fourth this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:10 PM
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have you seen the okcupid attractiveness by gender bell curve? you are indeed correct a lot of women judge men's looks very harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:05 PM
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HAS GOT IT GOING ON....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:05 PM
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I have noticed that a lot of women on sugar baby sites/tend to be sugar babies are often 8/10 and above!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:04 PM
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I once saw a guy who was a tall, dark and handsome 8/10 on an American TV show (I think it was about being broke and living in council homes?) once with a morbidly obese 3/10 woman. I believe they were married? One thing I did notice was how insecure that woman seemed to appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:04 PM
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I've noticed this too; this is why I am attempting to do away with an "e-girl" look. I'd attract dweebs, and my family don't want that. And I have seen a lot of black men and overweight white women being paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:01 PM
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I have a look at their body language and chemistry to gauge my thoughts before making assumptions. At first I'd assume one is there for either money or personality, but it goes a lot deeper than that. Alternatively one person let themselves go. The most common mismatched couples I've seen were often hot, 9/10 women with 1/10 obese older guys. In that case, I'd automatically think money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:58 PM
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that's why I won't bother with men like those to be honest, I might as well stay out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:37 PM
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this is exactly why I wouldn't hook up with random guys I just find attractive/have chemistry with, or if they're simply hvms. I would not only need to love him, but would I see myself starting a family with this dude? What does I'm not option for him to begin with mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:42 PM
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Exactly as I used to think before reading red pill content that started to take over my head and make me insecure about myself! I do agree that a 35 year old ceo would prefer a 32 year old female doctor in your case because of compatibility. Most who say he would prefer the 22 year old cashier? I think those are mostly hardcore red pillers who would see her as mostly pump and dump material. No compatibility but the sexual attraction is there. After all many of those men want to show off their tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:13 PM
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I've also noticed a lot of men who follow that mindset were people who likely got rejected by those same women and want some sort of unhealthy revenge! Thanks a bunch for the advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:06 PM
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Absolutely! After all it isn't a good idea to box everyone into pills or categories but at least it'll give you a general idea of what mindset they have. Which is why I tend to stay away from fds and the like. I don't want to be brainwashed into a 1D way of thinking. And I totally agree with you about equal spirit than wage in the case of alternating paychecks! It's the thought that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:04 PM

It's an Islamic country, just respect the laws there and youll be alright, okay?
/r/PussyPassDenied05/04/21 04:16 AM
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Thank you so much for the advice, much appreciated! I was initially worried because how would I know if he harboured such thoughts upon meeting him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:55 AM
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indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:36 PM
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In that case, he could dress a little more fashionably and approach warm and friendly (not creepy or forced though!) Let it flow naturally. Don't be stiff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:13 PM
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Indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:12 PM
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I've also noticed the people in WAATGM tend to rehash the same POVs over and over again once applied to something they see during analysis. Was the python coding skills done by a man or a woman? I also believe that alternating 100% is a good thing to do too, works out the same way as "going Dutch"! Yeah. That's why I don't visit FDS. It's basically a man-hating femcel cesspool. They would teach me to expect a Prince Charming I could make in The Sims 4 while being a basic slob. I won't be that pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:54 PM
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I see, I see. I mean, IMO sex is alright when the relationship is emotionally established. It does seem that your ex seemed inexperienced, especially coming from a culture where virginity/traditionalism is prized. Even though my family don't want me sleeping around, I don't have a similar mindset as she does (at the time it seems like she was expecting too much from you straight away/too soon!)
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 05:59 PM
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Fair enough! That seems reasonable. At least that gave you an idea of what sort of woman you could get (in the short term.) And many people want to be seen as "cool" in their teens/20s too: I mean at Uni many women were fine with FWBs/ONSs and many men tried to see what types of women they could get during that evening among their mates (I am a woman, but despite being approached by different sorts of men at Uni for ONSs I rejected every single advance even if the guy was good looking.) it's nat…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/21 04:08 PM
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What if one cold approaches and they are in the top 20th percentile looks wise? I'm sure the responses will be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:46 PM
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Those men are often MGTOW, though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:27 PM
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Yeah I know that. They're asking about homemaking skills and how nurturing she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:26 PM
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No worries!
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:40 PM
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No no I'm not sarcastic at all. I meant it. And I figured the red pill viewed people as objects rather than people. And that's why they make crass assumptions of everyone without taking their time to study people on an individual basis.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:36 PM
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I wonder if many red pillers fit this criteria
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:09 PM
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Thank you! I will know the right person when I see him, even if he isn't a so called hvm!
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:08 PM
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Of course! This is why women try to get a degree, so they can move up the corporate ladder to get money at a higher rate to fend for themselves of they aren't taking apprenticeships. A lot of these men's mindsets are stuck in the 50s.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:07 PM
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You can keep AWALTING and making crass assumptions. I am libright, 22, currently a master's student, not fat, never slept with anyone or had a relationship (because I don't want to emotionally invest in a fleeting relationship, only LTRs), have a STEM degree. There are many other females out there similar to me. Yes, I know red pillers aren't intimidated by women with degrees, I was quoting that from the feminist side of the argument. I do not identify as a feminist. Yea femininity and beauty is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:01 PM
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And often in their 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:52 PM
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So you're assuming every woman with a degree is a far leftist old overweight woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:52 PM
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I wonder why some old men are sick enough to do this.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 05:02 AM
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True! Many red pilled men seem to like to shift the blame on women. I have heartfelt opinions and values and I am not virgue signalling. Why do some people always think this?
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 04:17 AM
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I believe they mean bringing things like femininity, motherhood and domestic skills to the table but times do seem to be changing. Women need to also make wages too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:15 AM
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Thanks a bunch! I used to think that these men would see these women just as similar to others and won't care about what resources she has, but really, I believe they do secretly care about her resources especially if he isn't well off. So for me personally it goes both ways.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 03:15 AM
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Thanks a bunch for the advice! For me being lured into sex is what I fear the most if the relationship isn't established emotionally since the man might leave me for another woman. It's good to hear you felt shame for your wrongdoings and are now in a healthier mindset.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 02:01 AM
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Then in that case, that's assault and the police should prosecute those women. Doesn't matter who they do it to whether that guy is a fat balding 2/10 or a 9/10 Greek God, it's still considered assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:52 AM
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If he also struggles socially what would they think of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:49 AM
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What if the 6 foot 5 man turns out to be a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:43 AM
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"SeCreTlY dO wANt ThAt" can you quit it with the sexist assumptions? I am not entitled to a HVM, nor do I actually want to be with one. They would be too much to actually keep up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:41 AM
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I just said this 6 foot 5 man is a corner shop worker with no other job. Read the paragraph I wrote again. It's the other guy who is a multi millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:36 AM
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No, I am not. Stop generalizing me just because I am a "modern woman". I am very unwilling to have hookups with men who are above my league. You are AWALTING and generalizing. How would you like it if someone generalized you? I have a right to defend myself. Stop demonizing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:34 AM
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Keep AWALTing all you like. And making crass assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:25 AM
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They're control variables, alright? So I take it you can't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:20 AM
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Well if those men want to use me just for a pump and dump I have the right to make myself emotionally unavailable, or have nothing to do with him. I will NOT be jumping into a bed with a man who does this (PUAs included.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:18 AM
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I know lol I can't deal arguing with people who have an "AWALT" mindset
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 01:06 AM
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"AWALT"ism at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:05 AM
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Now imagine there are two young men. One is a 9/10 lookswise, is 6 foot 5, full head of hair, hot body but he's a corner shop worker. The other is a 4/10, 5 foot 6, morbidly obese, balding and is a millionaire (heir money) with a large social media presence. Both are 24 and white. Which man would most women take, you reckon?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:04 AM
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What flavour of koolaid was it? Have you tried coconut cool aid? Or coconut milk?
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 12:59 AM
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I figured. No wonder many red pillers can't think for themselves. Blurting out the same copy-and-paste lines and all.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 12:54 AM
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you seem to be quite aggressively "AWALT"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:50 AM
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Yeah, I already forsee that. Many of these types of men would prefer to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:50 AM
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Phew, I knew their spaces were just propaganda in order to brainwash vulnerable people.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/21 12:48 AM
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Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:47 AM
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I've noticed a lot of young women move to a big city to get a HVM, but I'm being discouraged from doing so by family. I am not entitled to such men anyway. Should I heed their advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:42 AM
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What if the female lawyer had 1 sexual partner, and the male barrister had well over 20, in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:24 AM
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Not in a big one at the moment. I hope to move out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:21 AM
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I'm from the UK and most people here tend to be pretty liberal.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 11:57 PM
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What about women who won't mind dating down? I for sure would not mind dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:45 PM
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Let's say there is a 30 year old female lawyer who wants to date a 36 year old barrister. Both are around 6/10 lookswise. Would that work out well, or would the 36 year old barrister date an 18 year old feminine, slim, beautiful waitress?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:43 PM
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What qualifies as an entitlement princess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:41 PM
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I am not virtue signalling at all. Those same women you are describing are the definition of entitlement princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:22 PM
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In fact many males view females who do exhibit these types of behaviours to be friendzone material.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:21 PM
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Third wave feminism seems to be women>>>>>>>men and that's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:50 PM
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I am not advocating for women to be entitled to 666 men just because they have degrees. Quite the opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:50 PM
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Alrighty, sounds fair
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:48 PM
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No problem! I do notice this link where I live too, however there are still some staunch Tory voters too (I voted Tory last time) among Uni women. However most do indeed lean left. I do believe men should have a right to make initial blanket assumptions about the woman as he sees fit to screen her but if she proves otherwise then that should be fine. And this hypothetical girl knows good self defence too. I'd be doing the same thing too if I were in the US especially with all the anti Asian hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:48 PM
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A tiny minority can be but the vast majority do exhibit hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:36 PM
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oh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:30 PM
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So what if I'm not fat or promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:30 PM
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Which to me screams entitlement princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:25 PM
1

makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:25 PM
1

So how does one fix this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:24 PM
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thanks a bunch! I'll have a look into what you said. I just don't like uncertainties when it comes to people's welfare (not just mine) but everyone involved so that nobody gets hurt. I've still (hopefully) got a long time to go (despite the fact a lot of those MGTOW types said I've "peaked".) And I love it when I can relate to others too!
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 10:23 PM
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What I meant by has his life together means if he's clear about the pathway he potentially wants to go down, I don't mean a rich guy with a good career at all. I will support him in every way possible.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 09:55 PM
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I see. So if I'm an outlier does that mean I'm disadvantaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:53 PM
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at least someone who is nice, takes good care of himself, pleasant to be around, knows what he wants and has his life together! preferably someone with any degree, but if he's well adjusted he'll still be okay! I prefer to date someone who is white, mixed, Latino or some middle easterners and taller than me, but I don't go around demanding 6 foot men. In fact, 5 foot 8 is a good height.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 09:48 PM
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Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:45 PM
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Agreed. It's time we saw people as individuals and not assign labels to them based on what demographic/group they're in.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 09:44 PM
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If I were to have a good career though, I wouldn't mind at all if the man made more or less or the same money than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:43 PM
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And they assume that every single woman is a hardcore feminist or an entitlement princess.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 09:42 PM
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I see! Yes, I do agree about how some more educated people tend to have higher entitlement due to inflated egos. However, there are many other educated people out there that aren't like that at all, as you said.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 09:40 PM
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I know, I have a look at some single mothers and many FDS queens demanding a long list of traits in a man and they themselves wonder why they can't get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:39 PM
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I'm not saying men are intimidated by these women. At all. I was referring to feminists that believe men are "intimidated" by women with degrees, hence I quoted that viewpoint. I am not left leaning either (I am libright.) I do understand that men often want feminine women which is why I am trying to increase my "femininity".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:37 PM
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These women should understand that they cannot change men by means of manipulation in order for him to become a man she desired. He has the right to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:30 PM
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Fairs fairs. It is a competitive STEM field which I will not name for privacy reasons; the starting salaries are within Band 5 (UK salary bands).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:29 PM
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thanks a bunch! I do indeed believe that these men have been hurt so they take up all their anger against women, and try to cover it up as being redpilled to justify their actions.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 08:21 PM
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Fair enough! I do see it that way. Because at the end of the day compatibility matters and a balance between 1 homemaker and 1 breadwinner seems to be the better option because 2 of the same thing will just result in chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:11 PM
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indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:07 PM
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Fair enough! I'm in STEM, how high earning would you say that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:06 PM
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I'm happy to hear it worked out well for you! Compatibility wins, 100%. I too, also have an interest in art, music and literature that I would like to pass on to my future children. I would love it if they can be educated about many different things this world has to offer.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/21 07:58 PM
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Reassuring to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:40 PM
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That's reassuring to hear! I do believe that most people end up marrying people that are similar to them because of compatibility. I see this everywhere in real life (not Instagram or anything like that!) A first generation college student with a 6 figure job and a STEM degree in the UK is counted as "technical emerging middle class" or something like that IIRC according to the BBC. you have to be either born or married into the upper class lifestyle.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/21 07:39 PM
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Thanks a lot for the advice! :) I just blocked one of them
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 07:35 PM
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indeed! I'm trying to feminize my aesthetic while still maintaining my overall image as a "indie" girl! Since I don't want to spend money on clothes right now. I have enough to last me for the next few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:34 PM
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relatable and ty! and absolutely. I used to think that some men (not all) with degrees build up a sense of superiority that they are entitled to treat women badly. And I won't initially know if these men fall into this category!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:34 PM
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Thanks a lot! I've subscribed to r/menslib btw! By dating down, I mean someone with a less demanding career as it's stereotyped by red pilled communities that "high value men" are more likely to cheat, and they try to justify cheating/treating women poorly as if they are animals. So when I read their beliefs I had to get it in my head that "just because you have a Master's doesn't mean you are entitled to date a 666 man/HVM!" I also feel bad chasing a man if he has too many other women wanting t…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 07:31 PM
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And those guys with more options are probably more likely to cheat, but if so, I'd let them move on and suck it up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:27 PM
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I'm extroverted mostly because I feel happy when I am around other people and care about them a lot. I do not drink, smoke or take drugs. I'm viewed by many to be a "one of the guys" type IRL (albeit more polished) but I know this is doing me a huge disservice hence I am trying to improve my "femininity".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:26 PM
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So in other words, these are really male supremacist POVs disguised as movements for "lonely men"? I honestly felt that to be honest. They seem to broadbrush every single woman with the same AWALT rhetoric even if they're different from the norm. My preferences in dating are mixed (most kinds), white, Latino and some middle eastern men. Bear in mind I am half east asian (hapa) and not full. I am not willing to date the majority of Indian men because many tend to look down on women in marriages. …
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 07:23 PM
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ik
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:05 PM
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phew! i'm happy to be reassured!
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 07:04 PM
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absolutely! To be fair, I am not a gold digger and I would never get with a man just because he has money. I feel like a failed person if I were to do that. Most important qualities to me are if he can take care of himself well, is nice and at least can fend for himself. Doesn't have to have a master's degree, I don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:04 PM
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To be fair, I would prefer to be married because companionship often leads to better quality and "happier" lives IMO especially if the person is female. I believe those same men were attempting to brainwash me into getting with an older man (I believe like themselves.) Or they might be thinking I'm just "chasing Chad" when that's not the case at all.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 06:55 PM
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I mean I wanted to learn about dating women from a man's point of view which is why I didn't go on subreddits focused on dating for women. I didn't want to be sugarcoated just to get my hopes up. I am currently banned from a MGTOW-leaning related subreddit and I now have nothing to do with them anymore. The reason why I had it in my head to "date down if needed" is because a lot of these men believe that a woman who has a master's degree feels entitled to date a man at or above her level, and be…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 06:50 PM
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I mean I wanted to learn about dating women from a man's point of view which is why I didn't go on subreddits focused on dating for women. I didn't want to be sugarcoated just to get my hopes up. I am currently banned from a MGTOW-leaning related subreddit and I now have nothing to do with them anymore. The reason why I had it in my head to "date down if needed" is because a lot of these men believe that a woman who has a master's degree feels entitled to date a man at or above her level, and be…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 06:50 PM
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I'm happy to hear everything's going well for you! Thing is, is it true the more educated the man is, the more red pilled he is likely to be (without even knowing it)? I'd love to believe a man similar like me would be interested but I got so het up after reading red pilled content that I started doubting myself. I went to get further education because it was a field I genuinely enjoy studying in and I want to avoid mooching. In Asian backgrounds education is highly prized too!
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 06:28 PM
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100% agreed! I wonder if those same men who were telling me to marry a HVM born in 1976 rather than a budding HVM born in 1996 are men who were indeed born around 1976.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:24 PM
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I see. Is being an ENFP/ENTP a bad thing if you're female? I believe I'm a mixture of the two traits you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:21 PM
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Fair enough! Thing is even if I take care of myself and am considered "above average" by many people (LOL) and will be getting a Master's this still doesn't entitle me to date a HVM as they will be drowning in many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:21 PM
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By attractive do they mean 9/10 and above?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:11 PM
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I see. I wonder if that's the reason a bunch of red pillers told me to snag up a 40 year old HVM at age 22, which is what I definitely won't be doing. I will feel cheap if I were to mooch off another man's resources. Yet they say I would be anyway because "AWALT". I'd rather date someone within my own age category.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:08 PM
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To be fair, me having a piece of paper that says "Master's degree" isn't a golden ticket to bag a 666 man. They have way too many options. Beauty in women is what men are attracted to especially the further up the ladder I go which is why I can't be arsed with hypergamy even if my family want me to marry someone similar to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:04 PM
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In this same subreddit?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 06:03 PM
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I wonder who these HVM are married to though. 20 year old models, like what the red pillers believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:59 PM
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I can totally understand the way she felt! Good on you for taking her out into the open so she gets rid of that mindset. It's encouraging to hear that I may be spending too much time on the internet reading about red pills and that the majority of men may not be like that after all. You sound like a guy who cares a lot about the welfare of his circle, which is admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:58 PM
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thanks a bunch! I was just worried because the further up I go, the more of those types of men I'd meet because of "options".
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 05:43 PM
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Yep, it's true! I did get approached at Uni by all sorts of men, even good-looking ones, but I resisted my temptation and decided to stay in my lane. I didn't want to upset family, that's one, and secondly I just felt that these would result in ONSs/short term relationships/FWBs. I didn't want that. In a relationship I want to invest my emotions and time with the man well. Even if I demonstrate loyalty and dedication to the man I always worry that if this were to happen he would run away and lea…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 05:41 PM
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I know exactly who you're referring to. I believe he is attempting to justify cheating because he has done it before. At the same time, the HVM may think the woman has little to offer him, therefore he views her as a plate to spin. I wonder if that's why I see many HVM unmarried/unwilling to commit to a woman; many just prefer to slide into some model's DMs/attempt PUA in the club and pump and dump for the night, and justify their actions by swallowing red pills. I believe many of these men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:29 PM
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tysm!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:25 PM
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I've saved what you said, thanks a bunch for the advice! I totally agree with what you said. This will allow for the male's mutual feelings to grow with time (not too fast!) and once he has sex (bonding!) he won't view me as just another plate to spin. Your POV is spot on and I wish there were more people out there with that worldview. I also would prefer it if the male was upfront about what he expects in the relationship, but because many seem to be good at hiding things, ideally I'd start out…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:20 PM
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Are you willing to settle with anyone or do you view women as plates?
/r/TheRedPill03/04/21 04:38 PM
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I see!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:23 PM
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In what way would they drag them down?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:20 PM
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MGTOW/redpill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:19 PM
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Which is why I don't go around to men talking about my Master's degree as if it's a golden ticket to get a 666 man. It isn't. At all. 666 men are always drowning in options and often go MGTOW/red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:12 PM
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Which is why I don't expect these men to come falling over their feet for me as they are drowning in too many options. At the end of the day I'm just like any other woman out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:09 PM
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To be honest I knew I'd get banned from WAATGM simply because I wasn't MGTOW like the vast majority of them. They themselves seem to be the NPCs themselves that cannot have their own viewpoints and ban anyone/rag on anyone who thinks differently. I don't actually want anything to do with FDS as I don't think a lot of their strategies would work in real life. For me, it has to be 50/50 in everything, not me sitting back and letting him do all the work. I also feel FDS is a cesspool of women over …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:08 PM
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That's what I had in mind! I might as well move on if he's pressuring me into having sex quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:48 PM
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The bottom paragraph of what you said seems nice on paper (I am a Russell Uni master's student) but I feel many of those men would rather date a sweet feminine younger woman despite being in our early 20s because of the MGTOW MINDSET which I feel a lot of these men are likely to subscribe to. I read an article on the Internet that those same men you describe are out there spinning plates and they don't care about a woman's degree, they just see her a slump and dump material. I got banned off a s…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/21 03:44 PM
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Have you tried thrifting or vintage clothes shops?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/21 03:37 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:30 PM
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Fair enough! It seems that the woman you were with was emotionally unavailable. That's what I'm trying to avoid when I go out into the world of dating. My parents want me to do well in school and get a good career but I realize many women in that field aren't getting dates because of social incompetence, hypergamy (many women believe if a man is good looking enough for her she will want to bed him all the time and the entitlement goes up the higher educated she tends to be!) and emotional unavai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:30 PM
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It seems to be! I also used to look at subs like r/whereareallthegoodmen so that I don't make mistakes like what those women did and uh oh, banned for speaking my mind! Then I get called "desperate" because I called them out for their misogyny, paintbrushing AWALT and just simply refusing to accept that some women (I. E. Not hypergamous) are different from others. I am also banned on r/femaledatingstrategy because I called them out for bad naming certain men in well established careers who don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:24 PM
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I'm sure their relationship will work well! I'd love to listen to my own self rather than family but sadly it's a thing in Asian communities that the parents often are strict with their children even past adulthood. I'm not sure how to overcome this. I've heard of many stories from women who date a man and after keeping him from having sex for months, they finally give in and the man dumps the woman for unknown reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:18 PM
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So that's why I notice a lot of older successful men with beautiful young women. Well come to think of it, I was on a red pilled sub (just got banned) asking for some advice and they all told me that I'd be suited to a man around age 40 who has earned a lot of money. This will not be happening. And I was speaking for my right when they just kept paintbrushing me with AWALTisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:15 PM
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Yes! Thanks a bunch! I've been trying to change up myself after lock down so I can see if I attract a different type of man because I wonder if some men view indie/alt girls as ONS material which is what I am willing to avoid because of my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:49 PM
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I see. I was a little concerned now that with covid, many young men are locked up in their homes while studying and would have more time to read things on the Internet and stumble across red pill content. Then they get so invested the red pill mindset takes over them so when they leave university they become MGTOW. I also know thatany MGTOW men just see women as women and ignore the degree part. I don't mind dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:48 PM
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Thanks a bunch for the advice! I completely felt what you said at the end! They keep saying that they'd prefer to date me of a similar calibre but quite often these men are snapped up by feminine, beautiful waitresses who didn't go to university, or they are MGTOW. they often cannot see that these men won't be interested in me whatsoever. That's why I have more lax expectations and I don't mind dating a man with a less demanding career at all. I tried a dating app experiment to test the waters a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:44 PM
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Seems reasonable! It seems like the first woman didn't have a lot of time to invest in you, and the second one went MGTOW but as a female equivalent. I personally don't care whether the man has a degree or not, despite my family caring so much about it. They want me to marry a guy who also has a degree and a good career (or budding) but what they don't realize is that these men are often snapped up by 18 year old beautiful waitresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:37 PM
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So often highly educated women have poor personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:34 PM
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Is it true that those men often either go MGTOW or prefer feminine young types?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:34 PM
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I've seen this many times
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:33 PM
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I personally don't have a problem dating down, because I understand if I date at or above my level, these men would often prefer feminine young barista or waitress types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:33 PM
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So these women expect a good looking man who also has an advanced degree and is rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:32 PM
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I can see why!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:32 PM
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Yikes. I just got permanently banned from a redpilled sub for not willing to listen to their advice. (they are telling me to get a man before I reach the age of 25 and he must be above the age of 30.) after stating multiple times that I refuse to date a man older than me, they started downvoting me and I got banned. I mean I only was on there to see what mistakes women do in dating so I don't repeat them myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:31 PM
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That's what I intend to do! Build his trust and feelings for me first and if he seems emotionally unavailable and unwilling to change I might as well move on. Sex is a special act of love and that's how I wish to view it as. I think if I were to read a man well I could roughly figure out if he's just there for sex however some are so damn good at masking stuff like this. I do agree uni students aren't thr best people to date because most of us are still exploring options. This is why I didn't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:48 AM
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Thanks a bunch! I believe they are imagining slightly older and often narcissistic women too. I've been trying to dress less "alt/indie/goth" and feminizing my appearance while at home studying. As well as learning domestic skills. When I was at university I would often dress alt to detract attention but I think as I'm getting towards the end of uni now and thus ready to date I might as well drop the alt appearance. (despite this, I have never gotten piercings, tats or dyed my hair an odd colour…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:29 AM
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Even if a woman marries down she should not baby the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:12 AM
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I thought about approaching a man in a similar fashion as you described! The appearance part is very important as many men tend to be visual creatures and are attracted to a woman's beauty. What I might be worried about though... If the guy pressures me into sex, pumps and dumps me straight after? That's what I'm quite worried about because my parents don't want me in this situation. Which is also why I never gotten into casual relationships either. Many people from uni seemed to be prefer FWB r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:10 AM
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Thanks a bunch! Yes I would show interest if a guy seems to be interested in me even if I'm still in school! Who knows where this simple relationship might end up becoming? I do believe my parents know what is right for me so in order to do things I won't regret I often take their advice or read up on things and use my intuition before doing them even if they'd eem tempting! I do believe that many men view master's plus women as what you say above and because of experiences and relative tendenci…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:01 AM
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Agreed and I think it's maybe because of their jobs they have these women often think they're better than others? At the end of the day they're all just like us!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:53 AM
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Since going to university I was usually stereotyped as an "indie" or "alt" girl purely because I cut my own hair into Lord Farquaad bangs at the time and wore oddly thrifted or vintagey looking clothes. Sometimes mixed that with arthoe, e-girl, grunge or goth influences. But I never had gotten piercings, dyed my hair an unnatural colour or gotten tattoos and I definitely will not be doing things like this. I have never dated however a lot of people I have talked to will assume I will end up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:47 AM
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I am currently studying at home which is far away from campus and I have not seen my uni friends face to face for about a year now, and everyone's social skills seemed to have rotted out, even during friend meet ups or uni social events where many seem shy. I have rejected any kind of one night stand offer from guys when I was on campus because I didn't want to upset my parents however I might have regretted this. In my case though it saved me from being disowned! I do agree that women who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:39 AM
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I completely agree with what you said! Ideally I would prefer a man who is my age and either has a degree (any type is fine) or if not, well adjusted in life. This is not codeword for rich/666 men because I am not entitled to such men. But after getting advice from redpillers that I would be better off with a man who's in his 30s? Not going to happen. I personally would feel bad mooching off some man's resources. Secondly my family would prefer it if I dated someone within my age category (born …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:31 AM
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What makes you think its intimidation and not female hypergamy/entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:20 AM
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Graduate at age 22 then straight after, go into the workplace. Find a boyfriend (LTR) within the next 2 years after graduating. Anything after then it may be too late. Work my way up the corporate ladder (STEM student here) in order to fend for myself but at the same time balancing my domestic and social lives too. Hobbies too. I actually enjoy my degree so hopefully my job can be something I won't be stressed about. I have strict Asian parents who expect me to have a good career. I hope to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:18 AM
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Because I am worried I will end up in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:49 AM
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Thanks for the advice! Everything you have said makes sense! And fair enough if you felt that you were not ready for marriage. Did she seem to move towards you too fast? If I were to meet a man I would just act naturally; I wouldn't go telling him what my titles are or (when I get one) what career I have; men aren't really attracted to that at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:43 AM
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Thing is though if I ask people in real life they will sugar coat everything. Thing is, I have seen many women who do describe themselves as "smart, accomplished and attractive" yet complain over the internet about their inability to find a man. These women are often in their late 20s and above. I am not yet ready to date but I am hoping to once I have graduated in September and within the next few years (I am currently 22 and still will be 22 when I graduate.) Many red pillers believe I am leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:37 AM
1

aight govna
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:30 AM
1

What types of women would you view as top of the totem pole?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:29 AM
1

I wish that would be the case...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:25 AM
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I'm a Master's student that is set to graduate in September and I am currently 22. I do not see this piece of paper as an entitlement letter to date a 666 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:23 AM
1

Would you consider PhD candidates or fresh Master's graduates as "career women" or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:19 AM
1

Ah, some of those women in that same article were in their 50s IIRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:18 AM
2

thanks a bunch!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:18 AM
1

These men are most likely bachelors, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:17 AM
1

well in that case they are definitely entitlement princess. They are pushing their only thing to boast about (their PhD!) as if it may attract men, but what they seem to lack is femininity, beauty, slenderness and most importantly, personality! I am sure your friend is more successful in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:16 AM
1

fair enough, I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:14 AM
1

That's the key phrase. Skews towards their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:13 AM
1

You do you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:13 AM
1

I believe it said something about "sassy solvent women"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:12 AM
1

And what if, for example, the beautiful Instagram model that you meet is full of greed and has entitlement for luxury goods also hinder the marriage? Is that why you see many of those types of young, beautiful women with men at least 30 years their senior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:11 AM
1

I believe those two might have met very young, if that's the case! As it stands, women generally have to heavily rely on their beauty in order to get higher quality men. Many men assume that women who are well educated and established in their careers are most likely in their 30s and have "hit the wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:09 AM
1

How old are these men? 37?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:06 AM
1

I wish I could let life happen if it was that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:05 AM
1

Midlife isn't as bliss as retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:04 AM
0

That's because those types of women are crazy. They are trying to gain quirky points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:02 AM
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I think he's imagining types like those infamous 40+ year old women who appeared on the Daily Mail holding Love Hearts sweet signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:58 AM
1

When marrying down, would you refer to blue collar workers with no degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:55 AM
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Ignorance is bliss. Yes, I do acknowledge that men don't care about what degree a woman has, but the way you're writing your argument screams "I am demonizing these same women and assume every single one is the same."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:54 AM
1

That's probably because once the career of that woman is well established she would likely be well into her 30s and since many men in that age category would go for younger women (often early 20s) these 30 year old women are unfortunately at a disadvantage. I was told by family to date after I graduate (I am 22 at the moment and will be graduating this year.) I was also told not to sleep around at university, which I obeyed. I am hoping to start dating and find a partner within the next 2 years.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:53 AM
1

Indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:51 AM
0

It could be those men have bad personalities, or are just not ready to date yet. Women do indeed find the vast majority of men unattractive because they are brainwashed by Hollywood. I try not to pay attention to celebrities/Instagram male models because I don't want to get my hopes up. Criminal men have more sexual partners because of their aggressiveness and "forwardness". My mum is married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:50 AM
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Well, I went to a school where I saw quite a few female teachers (Generation X) who had PhDs and were happily married with children. Bear in mind this is in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:47 AM
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I've also noticed the older the man gets (and he is unmarried), the more he subscribes to this way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:45 AM
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What advice would you give to these women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:44 AM
1

What if the woman pays no attention to social media and can live without all those luxury goods and expensive gifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:44 AM
1

No no no, if men choose to go MGTOW then let them do what they want. The woman shouldn't cry if the MGTOW man leaves her alone. MGTOW men are a small minority (even if the population is rising) and she would be better off with someone else anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:42 AM
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What if the woman is more lax than what you mentioned? Or if her personality is just so rotten?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:41 AM
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What if that same woman doesn't mind dating a blue collar worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:40 AM
1

What if the woman who does have a degree becomes a teacher or has a 9-5 job, or works at home with a good work-life balance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:38 AM
1

What if the woman is in her early 20s, moderately attractive (as viewed by others), with an advanced degree, knows that the CEO is well out of her reach, and won't mind dating down (but not the guy at the corner shop)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:36 AM
2

What if I'm getting my Master's at age 22? If I were to date a man, I personally won't care if he has a degree or not, but if he doesn't have a degree, he shouldn't be a guy working in the corner shop, for example. Since I am from an Asian background, my family prefer me to date someone of a similar calibre or I would "bring shame" to them. However I have to understand that even guys my age with degrees and careers would probably prefer a 19 year old than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:32 AM
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You're the one whining here. Also you have a very generalized viewpoint. What if that woman who does have a degree isn't a gold digger and is willing to settle for less? I've seen some older women (who are the providers) marry younger men. Of course, this is a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:29 AM
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Truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:27 AM
1

How old are these men and who do they often go with? Are you referring to men and women in their thirties?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:26 AM
0

I believe this is exactly why some men go MGTOW and try to justify their actions!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:24 AM
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I've noticed this pattern with plenty of women too! However I won't go as far as saying all women are like what you have stated. There are some women out there who DO have advanced degrees and end up marrying down because they aren't greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:23 AM
2

I totally agree with this! Well, at least from what I've seen. I've had a discussion with my mother about the Red Pill and she seems to think that these young men are brainwashed and resort to the Red Pill as a coping mechanism if they are lacking in certain departments, be it looks, personality, money or whatever. So they build up a mythical character who seems to have everything (Chad) and assume all women just go for this unicorn. When I go dating within the next 2 years hopefully, I want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:21 AM
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Exactly. Like I mentioned to another person, their ideal type of woman is usually a submissive 18-year-old slim-curvy white ISFJ Stepford Wife who looks like an Instagram model. These types of women are 1 in a million and only exist in fairytales, just like these "Chads" they keep going on about. A lot of these men fail to have a grasp with reality but they go MGTOW as a "coping strategy", I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:17 AM
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Thing is though, these same men have the same type of ideal woman in their head; often 18, blonde, slim and curvy at the same time, submissive ISFJ Stepford wife and white. Unfortunately I had come across a bunch of these men and they refuse to consider other people's viewpoints especially if the other person arguing is a woman. Many redpilled men broadbrush all women with the same views they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:13 AM
1

What if the woman is 22 and has a Master's? I am 22 and will be graduating this year with a Master's. Most people where I am from (in Europe) get their Bachelor's at age 21 and their Master's at age 23 if applicable. For PhD students, I have seen graduates as young as 25. I am currently a Master's student, but that does not entitle me to date a man exactly like that if he is not interested (and would prefer younger women.) And what if the woman doesn't need/want all these luxury gifts to keep he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:12 AM
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Your first point seems to support the fact why these same men go MGTOW. They want to cover up the fact that they have nothing to offer, and because they foresee a messy divorce (they often think that women would leave them for another man but are in denial about this!) they avoid marriages. Of course, divorces are costly. Who knows if these men have to ask for loans when these things happen? Your second point is similar to what my family (Asian parents) thinks. They often ask me to get a good ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:52 AM
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The fact that it can brainwash a lot of young men of thinking very little about women.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/21 12:26 AM
1

Is ENTP considered a "feminine" type or not? I don't care at all to be honest about type.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/21 04:31 PM
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I completely agree with this; it's a ploy used by these women to get attractive, muscular men to notice date and stay with them. They want to normalize obese women being with muscular men but ironically, still, these women would reject obese people like themselves. Most muscular men would prefer to date slender women because of lifestyle preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:34 PM
1

Try Tinder? Try The Sims.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/21 04:57 PM

FemCEL dating strategy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 08:48 PM
80

No wonder it's a femcel sub.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 05:00 PM
6

Fitness tests like the bleep test?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 04:17 PM

It's FDS, right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 04:17 PM
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Seriously you can make your Prince Charming on the Sims 4 and date him/fuck him with WickedWhims
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 04:16 PM
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Yeah. You can date him. On The Sims.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/21 04:39 AM
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Yeah, to be honest something does seem off. I think it's mostly her personality and ego is a HUGE turn off for many men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/21 06:23 PM
1

Joni Mitchell too
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/21 05:53 PM
1

If I achieved everything in life I set out to have, I wouldn't mind dating down at all. I'm a postgraduate student in a competitive STEM field (meaning I'll likely have a good career) but this does not give me entitlement to date another man with a postgraduate degree and top career if he's unavailable/uninterested/taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:28 PM
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Hmmm. Seems like she's inflating her ego here. Anyone can build things from IKEA, even a 10-year-old. And many things about that post seems off. Personality is a turn off, and I don't think she's "all that" as she's portraying herself. Most likely is either from a poor background (trying to work her way up) which is a good thing, facially unattractive, past the age of 30 and is trying to compensate with education and career.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/21 05:25 PM
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-facepalm- if this woman wants to bag a nice genuine guy she shouldn't have flashed her ass to the world like that on a dating app. These men want homely, decent and modest woman, and she certainly doesn't read as such when she does that. If I were her, I wouldn't be so explicit about my preferences and I wouldn't be flashing my ass to the world either. Men would be frightened to carry her into a LTR because of this. She screams "ONS material" here, I'll be honest.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/21 05:21 PM
2

Depends on the ratios for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 01:54 PM
1

172cm or over, any hair colour, any eye colour, not fat, not too skinny, takes care of himself, skin colour ranging from light to medium brown. Thick hair. I prefer ambiguous, mixed or Hispanic guys, but I'm okay with white guys. Muscle tone is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 01:27 PM
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She is a protypical entitlement princess. Also I barfed at the "notlikeothergirls" rhetoric dotted around everywhere. On dating apps you shouldn't state your preferences in a man vehemently. Men would run away from that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/21 02:25 PM
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There's still plenty of time to do so!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:13 PM
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What makes you think that? (FYI I travelled quite a bit during uni, but kept myself to myself.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:57 PM
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I'm studying at home, moving out soon but I have strict parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 12:45 PM
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Indeed! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:42 AM
3

Thank you and I hope it goes well for you too! A strong friendship, IMO, makes you totally set for life. You need someone to fall back on (other than your family of course) should things go haywire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:36 AM
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No worries! What I decided to instead was build on my platonic relationships, get my grades and a good job after that (even though men don't seem to actually care about that if you're a woman), try to improve myself in every aspect and see where it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:14 AM
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Nope. I'm a virgin. I rejected every single advance from men who were just willing to hook up. I didn't want to be left emotionally.... scarred after being.... dumped the morning after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:48 AM
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Personally, I would approach him like any other guy with normal body language, but I'd note in my head he's attractive/a HVM. Then I'd start talking to him often and try and hint some "interest" in him. I won't want to dive in too quickly too soon, otherwise I believe it may end in disappointment. But again who knows? The above strategy I mentioned is what many older women (50+ years old) I knew did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:46 AM
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I am willing to start looking for a LTR after I graduate uni. Then, I'll have enough time and energy to invest in the man. I'm in my early 20s at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:44 AM
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I'd say personality comes first, then resources (especially if you're male), attractiveness later. I've seen very good-looking men in LTRs with average looking women, and vice versa, likely for this same reason. The idea of "dating your looksmatch" is basically incel-related stuff which I personally won't bother with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 02:39 AM
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Insecurities projected by the woman. I feel so sorry for him. Broad-brushing people like that isn't the way forward. If I were him I'd break up with her and move on, find another woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/03/21 12:48 AM
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I'd feel cheap even doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:09 PM
1

Thanks a bunch! During studying at home I exercised more and tried to improve my appearance so hopefully when I graduate that might work in my favour
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:44 PM
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Agreed 100%! Even if I were to sleep with a 9/10 guy I'd have to understand he would have just been using me for sex and I won't actually count that as a proper relationship/in my league
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:17 PM
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Lel ty! I'm gonna finish uni very soon so after that I'll go on the dating market. I wonder if it's a disadvantage if you look young for your age though?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:15 PM
1

9000
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:15 PM
2

Ayyyyy high five
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:14 PM
1

You're a 999999999999
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:13 PM
1

I agree about the looks and competing against other women part!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:13 PM
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Alrighty! Many people I know of though are in a FWB relationship, very few are in a LTR. however the women in these LTRs aren't similar to me at all. I don't want to use celebrity examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:27 AM
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I believe so too!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:22 AM
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Do keyboard gymnastics count?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:18 AM
1

Fair enough! Personally, most people (not just IRL) have considered me around a Stacy-lite, especially if well-put together, but I view myself as a Becky, mostly becauase at uni I had a deliberately unconventional dress sense (however I have never dyed my hair, got piercings or tats) and ghastly pale skin/dark makeup. That was for me to weed off unnecessary advances while I studied (so that I would have a secure future.) How could I avoid disappointment and avoid shooting for guys WELL above my …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:15 AM
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Alrighty. And I do agree on your point about the woman's ego being inflated after she sleeps with a conventionally attractive "hot" man. I personally think this goes for both men and women however. To me, a Chad is just like any other man I see on the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:07 AM
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Not really, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:06 AM
2

I've had Chads hit up on me in the past, including some male models, as well as average looking guys, but I didn't have ONS's with any of them. I chose not to. Maybe when all this pandemic stuff is over, I could try and see who'd be interested? Still, I would not want to engage in any ONS's or casual sex. Something about that just makes me feel.... uneasy. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 01:02 AM
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I've never had sex. I've rejected advances from both Chads and average-looking guys, but this is mostly because of a personal value I have about ONS's and FWBs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:50 AM
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Fair enough. I too prefer Hispanics, ambiguous or mixed race men, and I'm a Hapa.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:46 AM
1

How does a woman measure her SMV/RMV? I'm new to all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:36 AM
1

I'm alright with both, honestly. However I tend to be more direct, chilled and to-the-point with male friends (which make up the majority of my friends and acquaintances.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:20 AM
1

Why Hispanic over Arab or mixed Asian-white?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:07 AM
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Anyone with a good personality and is attractive enough, I guess. I prefer mixed race, ambiguous or Hispanic guys, but whites and Middle Easterners are okay. (I am a hapa.) Ideally he has a light-medium to medium brown complexion. I don't care much about hair or eye colour. I don't care if he wears glasses or not. Being able to hold a one-to-one or small group conversation well is desirable, but I'm chill with quiet types. I prefer fit, well-groomed guys and I don't care much about height. IDK t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:06 AM
1

Is this from Inner City? That app has a lot of young professionals.
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