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What is the main reason to be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:24 PM
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Unless it's medically required. Its Child abuse.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 10:27 PM
1

Quick bang if it required minimal effort sure... I'm not putting effort into banging someone like that. Date of anything serious no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:41 PM
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There is men that expect to much but I'd say its massively outnumbered by the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:51 PM
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You mean they had unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:29 PM
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Theres plenty of options.. to many people are just expecting more than they are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:27 PM
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I never said you cant adopt.. crack on and adopt if thats what you want. Il always say never to dating someone with a kid.. it's not happening...the negatives dramatically outweigh the positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:25 PM
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He was a cuck ..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:55 PM
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Biology and natural instinct still controls us all.. dont think your better than mother nature
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:54 PM
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Because I want to spend my resources and time raising my kids, its it biological narcissism its biological nature.. males in almost all species dont eant to raise another males offspring. I wouldnt date a women with kids either.. or if I found out my partner tricks me into raising another mans (by cheating) I'd leave too. I know theres kids that need help but that doesn't mean I want to be the help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:39 PM
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I'd rather not have than adopt.. but I'd also rather not have step kids either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:26 PM
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Everyone settles because no one is going to get there idea dream scenario.. it's a dream for a reason. Difference is women are more unrealistic and larger egos believing they are entitled to all there dreams and fairy tales. But hey if you grew up being told you a beautiful princess and anyone would be lucky to have you.. I guess your ego would be big too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:00 PM
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It's insane how many single moms are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:45 PM
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Its child abuse.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 10:45 AM
2

I prefer relationships. I'm just picky about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:44 AM
5

High test wont stop you being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:59 PM
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Your either ugly or give off weird vibes.. welcome to manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:37 PM
1

Sounds weird and fucked up, guess they are the losers who dont mind there partner having an affair either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:55 PM
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I dont get turned on my my partner getting fucked by someone else no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:15 PM
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My gf or wife cheating isnt hot its disrespectful to me and she would be out in her arse .. it doesnt turn me on in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:17 PM
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They need dick while there boyfriends and husbands die. Getting ready to monkey branch into someone else.. tbf from what iv heard Ukraine women are pretty hot ... but likely gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:09 PM
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People in porn arnt my gf they are some random women with no connect to me, I couldnt care less about them.. i just happen to find them decent looking. Still not my thing, and I dont understand it.. same as I dont understand this open relationship stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:15 AM
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I dont get people like that at all.. the thought of my gf sleeping with another persons does nothing but fill me with rage and wanting fuck the other person up.. if it ever actually happened I'd likely be servicing jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:52 AM
1

You cant halt biology, 45 is to old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:13 PM
1

Average girl.. maybe a 6.. depends on the rest of her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:02 PM
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If they are just using it for sexual pleasure its absolutely no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:54 PM
3

Well this is weird af
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:50 PM
24

Women dont use dildos?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:50 PM
3

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:40 PM
1

I could 100% help my partner loose weight, but they need to take real responsibility and willing towards it. I already have a partner anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:33 PM
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Dont really care I'm part of a preference group anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:31 PM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:06 PM
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Why do you assume that I'm speaking about white women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:02 PM
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I dont care enough about dick size to lie, he virgina is only 3in deep and majority of female orgasms come from none penatrive sex anyway, so it's kinda irrelevant. You do realise that 99% of people are a mix of Gene's and dna these days ? Everyone has some white black asian etc dna in them. Black dicks arent bigger anymore than black arses being bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:34 AM
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Iv never said asian dicks are small, iv said race makes no difference. Black dicks arent bigger size isnt determined by race it's a stupid myth from porn.. the porn industry is full of them. From experience women are unable to actually test the size of a dick anyway and vastly over or underestimate it, the women your talking about are likely the same women with fantasys and and sexual kinks about black men.. I know a women like his and she claims every black guys dick is as long as her forearm 😂…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:19 AM
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I would happily raise my own, and do want them with the right partner. Another mans left overs arent mine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:55 AM
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A child is pretty big baggage to me and I have no interest in raising or paying for another mans kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:49 AM
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Depends how fat we are talking but atleast shes likely to have less baggage than a single mom (big no from me) And the idea of being single forever (and no sex) is kinda shit .. il take fat sex over never getting my dick wet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:26 AM
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They really arent, ethnicity doesnt effect penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:58 PM
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It's a porn myth anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:48 PM
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If you cant attract women your age is irrelevant, sure you might have more money, but it you lead with your wallet your heading towards disaster. The 20-30 year old women are to busy having the jacked guys hang out the back of them to care about your finances, sure they will take money you throw at them but they arent overall going to be interested. Fact is most 35 year olds arent going to be the top 5% Sure you might have more success with the post wall women (as your now offering the security …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:28 PM
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What makes you think we peak at 35
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:11 PM
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What makes you think we peak at 35
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:10 PM
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I'd take the fat girl and encourage her to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:05 PM
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Agreeablness is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:31 PM
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I never said he was white. His also not black. Iv heard he has 1 black and 1 white parent, looking at him I'd call him white as it surprised me he had a black parent. He looks white to me if I was going to put him in a category I'd have said his white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:34 PM
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I'm not on about tate, I'm talking about Mediterranean people. Native Spanish, greek, Italian etc are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:30 PM
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If your an average guy you should aim at an average girl is my point, nothing wrong with average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:53 AM
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Mediterranean people are also white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:52 AM
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What's wrong with those 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:50 AM
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Currently it's there problem, but unfortunately it becomes the average guys down the line unless he wants to remain single all his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:29 AM
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I have splashed and dashed.. and I find it rather shit if I'm honest. I'm happy with an attractive girl I get on with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:59 PM
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The point is the women are losers too expecting something good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:14 PM
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If you want kids in the future that probably wasnt the best idea. Politicians are vultures working for big corporations, we don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:51 PM
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Personal responsibility needs to be reinstalled into people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:18 PM
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Be careful messing with sugar babies, one slip up and youve got 18 years of child support and maintenance to bill. Hopefully the welfare shit ends soon, time to give personal responsibility back to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:18 PM
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Pretty much sums it up. Women are becoming more and more unrealistic and bloated with here expectations, it's not within the realms of reality anymore. No matter, I predict in the future more and more states will become Islamic and there willy nilly sampling will be outlawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:10 PM
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Unfortunately, mens nature of being able to dick anything without a care works against the average guy. Average women believe they can bag and deserve a extremely attractive guy because he will sleep with them. So they raise there standards and stop sleeping with the average guy. They get fucked about and complain but will still chase them. Basically men need to stop putting there dick around and raise there standards, this will stop all the average girls believing they can catch an 8 or 9 They …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:10 PM
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Date for abit of casual sex is different to settling down. If they choice to settle down with a stripper they likely are unable to attract any other women and the the typical "simp" kinda guy with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:45 AM
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😂 I can assure you there is no froth at my mouth.. alittle sick? Maybe, what she has is unrealistic expectations not standards.. Shes not worth dating in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:20 PM
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I'm not mad I couldnt care less.. just trying to give her a wakeup call.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 09:25 PM
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Say what you like but very few people are actually happy and content with there own company for the rest of there life. Just because she earns alot or money doesnt mean shes a highly rated women, being a stripper doesnt make her attractive she could be a solid 5 at best but is expecting the top 1% of guys to look at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:12 PM
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If she says so 😂 she wont be so happy once all her friends and family have moved on with there lives and shes stuck in a house on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:07 PM
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Goodluck finding a guy earning 200k (probs like top 2%) dude on salary alone plus your other requirements. And his got to be happy with you being a stripper and having other guys hands all over you ogling you? Sorry but I think you've living a fantasy 😂 the guys you want wont want you for anything serious. Your looking for a needle in a haystack and it's so unrealistic, you want a top 0.1% guy and your not in that bracket yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:12 PM
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Its halirious when women say this added with casual sex, only to cry and seek attention the second the guy stops paying any interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:18 PM
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How could you not believe her? How dare you. How dare you assume innocent untill proven guilty How dare you believe a man might not be a piece of shit!
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:49 AM
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Is she legal age? Yes Is he legal age? Yes Is there abit of an age gap? Yes Its probably all the post wall women that thought they could fuck about then snag a guy in there 30s realising the guys in the 30s dont want them and would rather date down ( in age ) Legal age in the uk is 16.. Would I date a 16 year old? No Would I date someone 21? No but I'd probs sleep with them if they was hot. Do I care what celebrities do? No
/r/MensRights21/10/22 07:47 AM
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My intentions are go with the flow have fun and get to know each other if they turns into something I'm down for it. Dont bitch at me because 99% of the time it doesnt to anywhere or just ends up with casual sex.. Just because you've dropped your pants doesnt mean i owe a girl a relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:50 PM
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Remove sex from a relationship ... what is offered to a man after this? Sex is probably the only benefit we get from a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:52 AM
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I support financial abortion for both men and women. Obviously this will mainly effect the man but in a small amount of cases the women could also benefit. For example.. The women doesn't believe in abortion but doesn't want the child The man wants the child So the women surrenders her rights and always the man to take full responsibility giving him what he wants, ( the child and all rights) And she gets what she wants.. no child responsibility
/r/MensRights24/09/22 06:33 PM
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Love how they think we feel safe walking at night 😂 I most definitely do not feel safe walking alone at night.. Iv had the pleasure of being beaten up by a group of people for no reason walking alone at night ... there reason ? I was a guy and they wanted to have s fight
/r/MensRights22/09/22 02:51 PM
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The women has the final choice on weather they child lives in poverty or not. Shes has the same opportunities as men. From what I see its normally the womens life is being compensated by the financial input from the man.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:52 PM
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I don't want to get into a pro life or choice debate as this isnt the point of the thread. Women are creating burdens to men that dont want be kids just as men are creating burdens to women that dont want them. You cant have the burden only 1 way when 2 people are involved both have responsibilities and currently only 1 may opt out of those responsible which is not fair or equal
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:48 PM
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Women are allowed to fuck whoever they like an then abort a baby though? Thats fair right ? Also men can be tricked into this by women who claim to be in birth control of deliberately tamper with birth control measures. This is about giving men and women the same options, currently women have more options then men which is unfair. Also no birth control is 100% I hope your against women going around fucking men willy nilly if your against men doing it
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:45 PM
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The post is about giving men the same rights and decisions currently available to women.. we dont currently have that. Condoms arent 100% and a vasectomy is only 50% reversible after 3 years .. Women have these options too but if they fall pregnant under current law they can take another option and not have the responsibility of parenthood.. men cant take this extra option.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 10:07 AM
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I'm not saying it isnt nor am I telling anyone to have an abortion
/r/MensRights15/08/22 07:55 PM
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Some people are crazy, they don't need nano chips in vaccines when you've already agreed to give over all your data when you signed up to basically any social media site. Or 99% of stuff in the web
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:46 PM
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I never said we will remove your choice please read the post again. Your totally intitled to your choice. What we are asking for is a choice ourselves, if we dont want to be fathers dont force us to be... dont force us to spend 18 years of our life paying for something we didnt agree to or want.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:43 PM
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Women have the option to abort an unwanted child if there contraception fails, yes we have condoms but they arent 100% either and women also have femidoms although they rarely speak about them and blame men for not using a condom. You cant give up your responsibility after the abortion timeframe has passed unless it's under special circumstances. If you opt out then change your mind personally it should be treated the same as a womens abortion ( you made the decision and you've gotta live with t…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:38 PM
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France has banned it. If a women is against it surely that makes you question why? Iv heard up to 10% of men are raising a child that unknowing isnt theres. Anyone against this has something to hide.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:31 PM
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This is to cover men who are tricked raising another mans child. For example.. Women is sleeping around or cheating on her partner. She falls pregnant. Tells her partner it's his or decides to pick out the best of the bunch and claim he child is his. He takes responsibility and raises that child He later discovers the child isnt his through dna and has had parental fraud used against him. His then given 2 options Continue raising and supporting the child that isnt his. He can walk away from the …
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:29 PM
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You can get someone pregnant without ejacating in them so that's false. Iv have sex with plenty or people and not once in my life so far has I'm doing this to become a father crossed my mind .. we was doing it for fun and pleasure. Women have the option to terminate the pregnancy and not become mothers, this gives men the same right. As for the bitter men not taking responsibility for something they didnt want or agree to in the first place ( did I consent to raising a child? Nope ) same way you…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:23 PM
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I dont mean a man can force an abortion on a women. What I mean is what you describe with the abandonment of responsibility and ties to the child.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:16 PM
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If men dont want to be fathers to the child then that child is growing up in a single parent household anyway. The only difference is this gives men the same rights as women upon if they will pay for a child to support it for 18 years or if they dont want to be a parent yet. The women doesnt have to raise the child if she is unable to or doesnt want to so nothing is being forced on her.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:13 PM
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Name changes would be fine aslong as it's clear and earns men this right.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:09 PM
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Is your attitude the same towards women on this matter ? This is about giving men the same rights as women. Not pro or against abortion
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:08 PM
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Its commonly know information I dont see any privacy issue with it, also the fact that it's going to save people 18 years of child support for what ? An letter of acknowledgement, hospital/government have all your information anyway and theres restrictions meaning they cant pass on that information
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:07 PM
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A what now? 😂 I dont understand what you mean
/r/MensRights14/08/22 09:00 PM
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While the women his having her checks in the hospital she can give a list of people who she believe is the father and the hospital/government officials can send letters and contact the man. This will be traced so no lying about not being told. It's an easy obstacle to over come
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:59 PM
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And the man currently has no choice, he becomes a father if the women decides or he doesnt become a father become the women decides to terminate.. do you see my point ? He lacks the rights to his future, and is forced to pay for something he didnt want.. a women is not forced to pay for a child she didnt want as she will abort it. If the country in question doesnt allow abortion then the man should obviously not be able to abort his responsibilities, this is about fairness. Then change the syste…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:56 PM
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If you dont tell the father or potential fathers about the pregnancy then they will be at no obligation to pay child support.. unless they decide they want to. Which they basically opt back into being a father.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:49 PM
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Fair point and I agree, she must notify him of her pregnancy and desire to keep it immidentally though
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:28 PM
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Its main function may be to make babies but thats not it's only function. Then the child will suffer which you didnt want ,?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:26 PM
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What do you mean 1 of 3 choices? She still has the option to abort her responsibility which currently a man does not have. Well your 2nd point is incorrect I know from personal experience abortions and easily accessible in my country. Without any issues or barriers. I mentioned it but I haven't given my stance on if I am pro life or pro choice. Like I have said this is about giving men the same rights and options as a women, if you want to deny equality I have to ask why?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:25 PM
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It's the womens decision to bring the child up knowing she cant afford to, why should I be forced to pay her lifestyle? Why cant I control my reproductive rights the same way she does ? If she wants to put herself in a situation where shes struggling with money in order to raise a child that was her decision. She had the option to abort it too. The kid wont have a better life because it has a father that never wanted it and now has to pay money for 18years to raise it to a women he obviously has…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:20 PM
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I fully agree with your post... it's a topic that needs to be brought to light. We need to make a stand and be taken seriously. Fight for our rights. And fight for equality.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:14 PM
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I never said I didnt want kids. This isnt a pro life or pro choice debate so dont mix though feelings into this thread. It's a simple should men have the same reproductive rights as women and choice when they will become financially responsible for a child.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:11 PM
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Women have a say if they let a man have sex with them, yet they have access to abortion and a choice upon becoming a parent or not. This is just giving men the same productive rights as women. If a women decides to continue on and have the child then she can pay for it ? You've just spoke about responsibility.. she choices to keep the child she can pay for it. My country already gives child support to every child regardless of if it's a single parent or couple.. so this makes no difference.. but…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:09 PM
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I agree with your first point. In my country though women do automatically have parental responsibility, men have to ask for his.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:02 PM
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Men need to fight back.. few seem to have any fight left in them though
/r/MensRights14/08/22 08:00 PM
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I'm sorry for your struggles and that is a massive issue that needs addressing.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:59 PM
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And so has the women, she knows the risks when she has sex. She has the choice on weather or not to become a mother if she falls pregnant though, a man doesnt have a voice/his opinion doesnt matter because the women can force him to become a father against his will. This is to give men the same reproductive rights that women have. She has a choice ? Unless you live in a country where abortion is illegal she 100% has a choice. This isnt a pro choice or pro life debate so please dont come at this …
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:57 PM
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If she wants the kid should wouldnt take the abortion. If she takes the abortion she never wanted the kid. You cant pick both options
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:50 PM
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That's something I totally agree on aswell, theres a percentage of men unknowing raising other mens children and its totally wrong. Did you know you cant have dna tests in France.. I wonder why ?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:49 PM
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Spread the word, start the movement
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:48 PM
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I think majority of women would agree, the once that do not as you said show there true colours and see having children as a meal ticket from well off men.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:47 PM
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Glad you agree. Obviously a time frame and procedurs should be put into place to stop it getting abused.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:45 PM
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I dont want to make this a pro choice/life debate. This is about laws currently in whichever state or country you live. Men should have the right to choice when to become fathers just as women have the right to choice when to become mothers. If she doesnt want it she has an abortion. If I dont want it I pay child support for 18 years anyway... that's not fair
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:42 PM
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I'm not expecting her to, just as I shouldn't be expected to pay for a child I didnt want for 18 years. Its funny you have to ask for parental responsibility and custody as a men yet women automatically have it
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:40 PM
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I agree
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:39 PM
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I'm confused with the point your trying to make / your stance
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:37 PM
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Shout it from the mountain tops it's time to receive our rights
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:36 PM
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Unfortunately lie detector tests are inaccurate and shouldn't be used. I agree, only women suffer injustice why are we even complaining?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:35 PM
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People will even turn that privilege into victimhood claiming its unfair they have to take responsibility etc.. Its your choice to have a vasectomy not right or wrong answer.. I find it frustrating when people claim men should get them as birth control as its reversible though as theyve not even bothered to look into the effects and the fact it's only 50% effective.. would women take birth control if it ment 50% of them wont be able to have kids after ?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:33 PM
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Yes and that is met by men having the right to decide when they become a father without financial penalties
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:29 PM
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I never said I dont want children. I do want children with the right person. This is about mens rights and equality not me personally
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:28 PM
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Unfortunately we are told we dont matter and to put others before ourselves from an early age. Its social acceptable to attack us on topics in public. We need to make a stand and fight for our rights
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:22 PM
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I think it could result in less childless fathers and abortion in the long term once people realise they need to be more careful and take responsibility for there actions. I doubt people are going to become pro or against due to this ruling
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:12 PM
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Here they get free housing and enough money to look after them. If they are forced to do so then I agree but remember the state generally doesnt pay we do through taxes.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:09 PM
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Yep and if the women doesnt want to abort but doesnt want responsibility of the child but the man wants the child. She should be able to hand the baby over to the man ( basically like how adoption works)
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:07 PM
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I think your missing my point. If she wants an abortion and so do I, we get an abortion and its 50/50 which is fair. I I want abortion and she doesnt. Then shes not going to have an abortion is she? So my point is why should you pay for something shes not having done. If she wants an abortion and I do not, it's her choice to have an abortion therefore she should pay (as I want the child) This isn't an issue in my country as its free anyway
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:05 PM
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The 30% was for people having multiple abortions not using it as birth control. But still it shows a good amount of carelessness on both parties to be a regular at the abortion clinic.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:02 PM
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99% effect still leaves 1% not and it's unfair on that 1% of men to not have the same options as the women. Vasectomy is only 50% reversible after 3 years it's not an option. Yes I agree kids need good role models both father and mother. But a father that never wanted to be there in the first place and is forced to pay for a child he never wanted isnt going to be a good role model and isnt going to benefit the child
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:00 PM
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I believe women will be more responsible and careful to who they sleep with if the man has an option to abort responsibility.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:57 PM
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Women go for regular checks while pregnant. This could simply be added to the first check up list. They give the information of the potential fathers over.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:56 PM
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If she wants to keep the child she should be held responsible for caring for that child that includes financially. That's the point of the post. If she wants an abortion aswell then obviously you help pay. But my point is if she wants to keep the child why would she abort it ? Hence it doesnt make sense to pay her.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:54 PM
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From information I have seen a good percentage of people are using abortion as a contraception, I'm sure I heard 30-40% have had more the 3 abortions? I agree with you, give us the same rights.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:52 PM
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I agree. Motherhood is voluntary.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:49 PM
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If the women wants the child why does she need an abortion
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:48 PM
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I dont live in the usa so dont know your system. Here the goverment do support the women regardless of the father being around
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:47 PM
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From my understanding its along way off Male contraceptive.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:46 PM
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I think this would force people into being more responsible and taking accountability for themselves
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:45 PM
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Its would be a very simple and easy take to setup.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:43 PM
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If she wants an abortion and I do not then I shouldn't have to pay. If both parties want an abortion then 50-50 is fair. If I want an abortion and she does not then she keeps the baby
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:41 PM
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That's disgusting, and harmful to the child. Those cases need to be sorted out too. Attacks on men are common place.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:40 PM
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We should create a movement for it
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:38 PM
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Procedures could be put in place to stop this For example he women is responsible for officially contacting the man to notify the Is pregnant with his child and plans to keep it. He must then respond to say he will support the child or start proceedings to terminate his responsibilities. If a women has slept with multiple men she must contact them all, to notify them. If only 50% respond saying they will support the child only them men are obligated to do so. An option can be added for this circ…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:37 PM
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I am not claiming we should or shouldn't be allowed to do that. My point is we should have the ability to terminate our responsibility to that child while the women is still pregnant and which a reasonable time frame. Women can terminate the responsibility through abortion men should be able to terminate responsibility through no contact or financial support towards the child and mother
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:31 PM
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I agree there should be a timeframe to work on but it must have some kind of official notice period otherwise we could have a situation which women deliberately leave it to late. It.would be wrong and unfair to drop the responsibility say 8 months down the line though
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:28 PM
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So once you have the number of children you want say 2-4 you never have sec again?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:24 PM
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If you deny fatherhood,a court can make you take a dna test otherwise your paying for the child.but further to that point people of today shouldn't be punished for the actions of previous generations. That's a shame that Sweden didnt follow though with it, obviously the abortion must be don within a certain time frame to stop couples splitting up down the line and the guy washing hands of the responsibility. That's a different subject matter all together. What countries dont enforce fatherhood o…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:23 PM
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So women should have more rights then men? No protection is 100% effective.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:15 PM
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Yep 100% Give women some responsibility and accountability
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:06 PM
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Using condoms and trusting women that they are on birth control. None or which is 100% going to stop pregnancy. Accidents happen and currently women can take actions to not have the responsibility of being a parent. I myself and every other man have no choice in what happens if a women fall pregnant. Il just have to pay for it...
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:54 PM
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The mother that decided to keep the child ?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:47 PM
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Theres currently no safe controls available for men. And even if there was. No birth control is 100% This means there will still be cases after all these measures are taken, which brings me back to my arguement. We should be able to abort responsibility and financial responsibility if we wish. I want us to have equal rights and opportunities to be parent less if we so wish ... the same as women currently have
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:46 PM
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This isnt about what I do personally, it's about making a law to increase mens rights and giving them the same options already presented to women. Women deal with birth control due to biology, they are the ones that get pregnant and carry the child. 1% of men could impregnate 100% of women, therefore it would have been totally pointless creating a product to control births for men.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:32 PM
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In the current system the women has options to keep or abort the child. She should take responsibility of her life and actions, if SHE wants to be a mother then SHE should be responsible for raising that child. Its total up to her, no one has forced her to do it.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:27 PM
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Just because I dont want a child today doesnt mean I wont in the future. Vasectomy isnt 100% reversible in fact after 3 years it drops to a 50% success rate. I don't think sterilising 50% of people is the ethical thing to do here. Take responsibility? How? By never having sex untill the day I want a child? This is about giving men the same options that women currently have.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:13 PM
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Why should I not have the same right as women is the point? She choices if shes ready for this child Why can't I choice if I'm ready ?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:09 PM
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We have child support in my country and it's very generous, a single women with 1 or 2 children would be better off then many single working people. They get free housing along with a long list of things from healthcare to school meals. Plus have a weekly payment and benefits. On top of this they force men to pay them child support, for children the have no contact with and didnt even want. And back to.your point. The women that decide to keep the children could always take responsibility for th…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:07 PM
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I agree, we need to level the playing field and create fairness for everyone. Giving 1 sex more rights then the other is wrong. I personally wouldnt go down the vasectomy root myself.. I know this is a common scree from people opposing mens rights but the vasectomy isn't as reversible as many people think, so would should I risk never having a child because I dont want one at the point in time ? Same logic could be applied to women with tying there tubes.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:02 PM
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I just want everyone to be treated fairly and given the same opportunity. The outcome isnt my concern. I didnt realise it had blown up on other subreddits, its just a thought I had.. it would be nice if it could turn into a movement and gain attention from governments and the public. I feel like mens rights are a laughing stock though
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:58 PM
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It will give everyone some responsibility for there actions and it's much needed. I wonder if this would gain much support as a movement?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:55 PM
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Then maybe it will make people take responsibility for there lives and actions, every action has a consequence yes I agree but as far as I can tell the men are taking majority of this and its unfair. This might stop the small number of women who decide to "babytrap" a man for financial gain too. If a man decides to financially abort the child along with responsibility and the women decides to keep the child that was her choice and she is responsible for that child. Obviously men should only be a…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:53 PM
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That isnt the case in my country and the financial aspect of paying the mother is done automatically, it's not bank transfers and 1 week I decide not to pay. You've mentioned men can op of there reasonabilities but only if the women agrees ? That right there is the problem we dont have choice over our own lives or finances, someone else is in control of that. Imagine a law where women could only get abortions if the man agrees? There would be outcry. Imagine a law where women could only purchase…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:47 PM
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I'm not from the USA so the RvW thing doesnt effect me, abortion is legal in my country and free along with all types of contraception being free. I think think giving men and women the option to financial and responsibility abortion would only benefit us all.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:39 PM
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Women hold all the power when it comes to abortions they are in total control. You will never become a father unless a women says you can
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:35 PM
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I think your missing the point of my post, it's not for or against. It's a financial abortion in the sense that men choice when they will become fathers, its leveling the playing field so they have the same parental rights and the option to choice when and if they become father. Children cost 150k to raise to the age of 18, that is a huge financial burden on someone who never wanted to be a father in the first place. This is nothing to do with the quality of the sex education system, accidents h…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:31 PM
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No one needs to pay me ?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:27 PM
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So developing feelings over time is a no no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:51 PM
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I was trying to work out If it's related to a underline attractiveness to the person or if its purely friendship and feeling at ease and comfortable with the person, and if they feel comfortable and at easy why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:46 AM
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I'm just curious about what other peoples opinions are on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:45 AM
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Does this count even if they already have a boyfriend that may or may not be at the gathering/party?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:05 AM
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It sounds very different to where I'm from. If your close friends with a person of the opposite sex and to out do things together its assumed your a couple, people ask how long you've been dating, are confused when they find out your just friends. Once they realise your only friends they start to think the guy is weird and must either like the girl and shes not interested so his "friendzoned" or he must he gay. I dont hold these views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:04 AM
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It depends.. if they tick both boxes I would likely try to escalate things but if they arent interested that's fine I'm not going to complain, and would continue being there friend in most cases ( if I deeply like them and looking for a romantic relationship with them though I will not continue friendship ) I understand your point of finding people physically attractive but not wanting to try anything, if I tried to sleep with every women I found attractive I wouldn't do anything else in my life…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:00 AM
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Maybe feelings developed over time ? Maybe something about you changed and he now finds you attractive? Maybe his always found you attractive but you or him was in a committed relationship so it would have been wrong to act on ? I dont understand why its seen as weird or gross. Yes people who pretend to be your friend just to get in your pants is weird, but if your genuinely friends before and it just kinda happens I dont see the issue ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:53 AM
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If I find someone attractive ( which in all honesty I find most people physically attractive ) and I get on with them well it feels like almost a no brainer to try more romantically. Personally from experience Iv never seen 2 people.be close friends without 1 developing feelings ( normally the guy liking the girl )
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:42 PM
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I missed that post. I guess it depends how your preserved, I wouldnt call dating easy but I can normally manage it if I put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:31 PM
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Which is why it's common for guys to hook up with unattractive girls or even land whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:44 PM
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I was just wondering If subconsciously these friends are based on a level of attractiveness to one and other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:42 PM
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So are you saying if these women are talking to you, if theres a party or group gathering they come over and talk/spend majority of the time at the party with you that they find you attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:40 PM
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I dont really understand your whole window of opportunity thing. If I find someone attractive I would sleep with them within the first hour of knowing them.all the way to 10 years in and beyond. Theres no cut off point to which I say oh no I cant sleep with you because iv known you however long. My opinion of the friendzone is it's just basically guys that girls dont find attractive enough to date but like on a mental level. I think it's unfair to always blame.the guy for not chasing a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:38 PM
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True but sometimes a dry patch and the horny devil takes over
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:32 PM
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I was just bringing up a random scenario, I dont feel like that and was getting a different prospective
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:31 PM
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So if they made a move on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:28 PM
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Are you saying if a single female friend asks me to regularly hang out, talks to me over social media etc, she likely sees potential in being more then friends? (Both man and women are single) The fact I wasnt rejected or avoided when first meeting shows this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:14 PM
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They arent gathering resources from the guy as he wont buy or pay for there things. Emotional they dump the same on each other And as few attention they arent getting sexual attention or compliments from him as his not trying to sleep with them I wouldnt class him as friendzonsd as he has no interest in sleeping with these women and most of them are dating his friends
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:06 PM
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I find it hard to not cross the line in these types or situations, if your average to attractive and we get on well it's pretty hard to not want to push it into something more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:03 PM
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Do you think them being average played a part in them only being your friends? And would you have been more likely to not be friends if you found them ugly or weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:01 PM
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Lots of girls dont make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:59 PM
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Does it not make you uncomfortable finding your friends sexual attractive or knowing they like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:58 PM
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So do you believe they are only friends because there was a level of attractiveness at the start ? Do you believe they wouldnt have been friends without this? And if it's due to attractiveness and the guy simply not taking advantage of the window, do you think that window can be reopened?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:57 PM
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I have slept with women I found unattractive, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:54 PM
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I think in wider society it is impossible or bizarre too, people either assume 1 of them fancies the other or the guy Is gay. From experience inter gender relationships are seen as abit odd
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:53 PM
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Standards drop for hookups I know lots of guys that will sleep with anyone for a hookup. But for a relationship they want the hottest girl they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:05 PM
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Then they would kill you for being boring
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:13 PM
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Hate shows emotion Bored means they simply dont care and wouldnt notice if you dropped off the end of the earth. Depends what you mean by better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:52 PM
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I guess gold diggers marrying for money doesnt happen then.. and its wildly known men marry for money 🤔 Most relationship have men being the higher earner so they are putting more in financially. Its basic math. Women find it easier to hop it into a new relationship so wont have burden of single like swallowing up that divorce settlement for as long and again will likely meet someone better off then herself financially. The guy will take longer to find a partner and again will likely be the main…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:02 PM
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Depends if it's a fling or if your looking for something serious. Standards are obviously higher for a relationship. Personally I wont date a girl whos slept around.. at the age of 30 I'd personally want them to be 10 and below. If I started seeing someone and early on found out she slept with like 50 guys it's an instant turn off. I actually like a girl once untill she told me how many people she had slept with .. was around the 40 mark and she was 27 years old .. it instantly made me feel sick…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:56 PM
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Personally I think it's done to people not appreciating what they've got. I find women far more likely to not appreciate things and take them for granted.. with an ever growing list of demands. Add the fact women are chased after by other men alot more frequently, have there self esteem and egos boosted more. And the big financial gain they have from divorce. They lack risk and get rewarded for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:37 AM
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Nice to role off the list of what you want but dont forget youve got to prove your worth all that stuff to.. otherwise your be left on the scrap heap aswell. And as for your current partner getting a vasectomy because you've told him to.. he sounds like a loser and should be made aware that success rate of reversing a vasectomy drops dramatically with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:15 AM
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Personally If I got to pick I'd want her to have a body type 20% to 30% .. I dont like muscular looking women nore overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:16 PM
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That being said it doesnt really matter..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:55 AM
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I was 16. Depends on the reasons you have list it ? E.G if it's for religion or spiritual purposes. Most men lose theres between 14 and 18 I guess where I'm from, if your mid I guess once you hit your 20s people start to wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:54 AM
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Seen plenty of study daying 20-30 of men 18 to 30 are virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:02 PM
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You forgot to mention the risk of paying child support for a child that isnt even biologically yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:22 AM
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Not being so ugly you are undatable and being someone women simply wont approach first are 2 different things. You cant suddently because attractive over night you either are or are not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:50 PM
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Still doesnt matter, dude if your ugly your ugly regardless of body fat on your face. Hair cuts only help and skincare only help if your a tramp that never washes or hqvent had a hair cut in years What are you classing as abnormally short ? I take it you've not see how often short guys are rejected compared to taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:14 AM
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You cant improve on your facial features and height by going the gym and getting a haircut or wearing fashionable clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:57 AM
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Women not re-marrying doesn't mean they are happily single
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:21 PM
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I earn enough to look after myself. I live on my own and my bills, food, and general outgoings are all covered leaving me with around 30% of my income as either savings or fun tokens to "waste" I have no doubts I earn enough to raise a family.. the only question is the disposable income. Some women are simply to greedy and are never happy with what they've got because they've got an inflated sense or self worth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:05 PM
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More women have degrees then men but what degrees are these subjects normally in? From my understand a good percentage are in subjects that are a complete waste of time and money. Secondly just because you have a degree doesnt make you any better then the rest of the workforce. Iv had snotty little graduates come into my work ( engineering ) and dont even have the ability to use the tools or test equipment in front or them. Women are the ones that carry the child for 9 months and birth them, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:58 PM
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Them not being married didnt make effect any of the things youve mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:27 PM
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I do remember being a kid and I can tell you my I couldn't have carried less if they were married, I wanted to go out and play with my friends and enjoy the things kids do.. not talk about marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:41 AM
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The child wont care if the parents are married or not 😂 true I believe they need both biological parents in there life aslong as they are good people. If they are trash then it's a nope. But the 2 parents being married or just a couple living together makes no odds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:13 PM
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The things you've mentioned can be done without marriage. Its not an advantage to get married when I can get exactly the same unmarried
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:54 PM
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Then your question is answered
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:39 PM
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The bigger question is what benefits do you get from marriage compared to unmarried ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:56 AM
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What height are you counting as masculine and what heights are you counting as feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:17 PM
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Iv asked you to state the height and youve failed to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:01 PM
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Which men you talking about ? Set the height because it changes across the globe.. unlike the things that were mentioned. A short asian guy is still going to have a bigger frame and higher muscle mass, then a western women 4 inches taller
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:32 PM
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I see plenty of women the same height or taller then men but there muscle mass or frame is still not built the same as the men of equal size, the mend mass and frame are still larger. Height hasn't effected this. What heights are you talking about because the average height of men varies depending on location and ethnic backgrounds.. or are you going to say Asian men are feminine because they are shorter on average? Height might be seen as an advantage due to protection and size difference but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:10 PM
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Muscle mass bone structure/mass could be used an an indicator for being male or female. Same with facial features. Different personalities traits may be seen as masculing to. But if the height of a person is the only thing you know its impossible to say If there male or female. Height doesnt indicate anything about being Male or female as it has alot of crossover.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:19 AM
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Because height isnt the same as the other things you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:04 PM
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Face features, personality traits and muscle mass are what your thinking of. Just because a guy is short doesnt mean his feminine..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:00 PM
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Height doesnt mean your masculine or feminine.. iv never looked at a tall women and thought on no shes masculing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:03 PM
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I disagree with tall being a masculine trait..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:48 PM
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Your not more masculine because your tall or have a beard 😂 and shaving your face doesnt make you feminin
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:51 PM
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I think your making stories up none of that stuff ever happened 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:41 PM
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I dont believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:43 PM
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You get white cuck porn to.. not just black .. I'd imagine all races of cuck porn. Maybe the hated of the idea of it happens raises there adrenaline and testosterone as they want to fight want they dislike ? But obviously jack off instead. I'm pretty sure you get invader of " insert race, nationality or religious beliefs ' taking our women porn playing on that idea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:32 PM
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Maybe they are imagining thereself as the bull or guy stealing the other person women and his to weak and pathetic to do anything about it? From my understanding the cucks in porn would line up with how left leaning men are stereotyped more then right wing. Left wing are seen as weak pathetic men that do whatever his wife orders him to do with no back bone supporting ideas that he doesnt agree with. I could see right wing guys watching it and imagining themselves as taking the women and giving t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:23 PM
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I didn't mean to come off as saying you wasnt putting effort in btw 😂 Everyone has a different drive, I know as Iv always been the one with a higher sex drive..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:37 PM
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He could have thought you was just having a mess around ? If you wanted it hou should have continued I'm sure he would have said his not in the mood if that was the case. Sometimes me or my partner will have a mess about but not actually take it anywhere, its abit like teasing the other person. Aslong as your putting in as much effort you shouldn't need to worry about him rejecting you. The women that want regular sex but give little to no effort, weather its foreplay or during intercourse are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:18 PM
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Did you initiate sex or wait for him to? Iv never said no to my gf or ex's when they wanted sex,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:11 PM
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True that's why I always have a guard up along with alot if other none related issues. I'm not a trusting person at all. Definitely better off without them though. It should be but for whatever reason mental abuse isnt taken very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:19 PM
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I said in the previous comment unless its extreme they wont know If a guy is 6.2 and says his 6.5 she know. That's the whole point I'm.making adding 2/3 inches wont get noticed. It's not my problem if your incapable of understanding a scenario and need to be spoon fed information
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:34 PM
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I never said they are stupid, the only way your going to know the exact height of someone is measuring them and last time I checked women arent walking around with a tape measure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:48 PM
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Yep once the girls are taller then you it seems to be game over
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:42 PM
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On an extremely maybe. Women arent to be able to eye ball a guy and say his exact height. They cant tell the difference between 5.10 and 6ft And most women arent 5.7 the average is 5.3/5.4.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:38 PM
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It's a weird thing to pick out.. its like saying I only want a women who's 140pounds 😂 I feel like I just about get away with my height as I'm taller then most women and have a few maybe the same height .. if I dropped 3 inches I think it would be a massive issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:25 PM
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Yep it's pretty common, this makes only dating worse because women are going to assume guys are taller/shorter then what they really are. We now have a stupid graph and rejection rate because women want 6ft because they think that's the average When it reality the average is about 3inch shorter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:22 PM
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I'm 5.7ft at a push .. having 90% of women instantly regret me online based on that is the exact reason I dont put my height in the profile 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:19 PM
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Its nothing to do with being stupid, its estimating height and it's not exactly an easy thing to do. Most women will be looking up anyway so they cant really tell. And there is alot of guys adding 2,3, or even 4 inches to there height if most the guys are doing this women are going to think smaller guys are actually taller hence the women who say say they want 6.5 guys. Iv met loads of women who think 6ft is average for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:16 PM
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They dont actually understand the real height of people. So many people lie about there height that its basically bumped it up a few inches Also the same happens when your on the shorter side they actually believe your shorter then your actual height. Same goes with dick size.. they have no clue what the true average is and get caught up in the lies of people saying there dicks are huge or think others are tiny
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:32 PM
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I don't really want to go into masses of detail but its happened loads of times. A few examples.. When I was young an ex got pregnant and had an abortion I always regretted it at the and it used to play on my mind alot but I didnt ever tell anyone. I then met a girl i got on really well with and had a relationship with her. One day I confessed it as we was talking about our biggest regrets. Anyhow later down the line she threw it in my face saying I dont deserve to ever have kids and they had a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:28 PM
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Because we get slaughtered when we do. It's never taken seriously and seen as weak. And then you have the added joy of women that use it against you in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:57 PM
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My guess would be they dramatically lower there standards and take any responses they can. Or they come off the app because they realise they cant get anything on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:14 AM
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Well the truthful answer is I'm not really sure and just taking it as it comes if we hit it off and it gets serious thats great .. if we don't that's great to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:18 PM
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I am honest when someone asks me a question, and that answer is normally fine the problem lies when some women act like I owe them something or lied.. Aparantly iv used them for not committing afterwards, I find this behaviour stupid though because some of these girls iv known no more the a couple weeks and met them a hand full of times. Some of slept with the first time meeting, why would I want to commit to someone like that? And more so if they instantly want commitment from someone they dont…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:36 PM
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I'm perfectly free to walk away from a women after having sex with her weather iv been speaking give her a day a month or a year. I'm perfectly honest when someone asks me a question iv never lied and theres no alternative motive.. If you want to know something ask but dont expect me to give you the answer you want to hear and dont expect a relationship from me for simply spreading your legs. My jobs to get women into bed.. it's her job to make me want to stay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:30 PM
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I could still change my mind after having sex with someone, this whole 100% interested thing is irrelevant, after or during sex I could realise we arent compatible? Or I could simple change my mind after because there behaviour changes ? The amount of women that feel like you owe them something or even owe them a relationship because they had sex with you is madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 07:26 PM
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They arent for me. I cant really have sex with a condom and I dont want to practice unprotected sex with someone who has sex with multiple different people. I dont like the idea that someone else has just been having sex with that person. I dont like the idea or paying for it and I have a high sex drive.. I'd be spending thousands a month. I see sex as quite a intermet and connection building thing, why waste that on someone who has no interest in me ? I'm not not a fan of 1 night stands so I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:34 PM
1

Depends on alot more then what you've listed. Our ages? And time together in a relationship. Do we have kids or a family together? Can they still talk ? Was I happy in the relationship anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:25 PM
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I often say not looking for anything serious because a couple of times iv been crucified by women for saying I'm looking for relationships or commitment to then decide a few weeks later I'm not interested in that person. What happens is they accuse me of using them for sex, wasting there time, leading them on ect ect. Its alot easiler to say see what happens and nothing serious to start then get the backlash of crazy women. 2nd You also sometimes come across as "weird" or "to keen" if you say yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:22 PM
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No, I dont want to raise another guys kids I want my own. Iv got no baggage so why take on someone elses? No benefit for me what so ever. The closest iv came to dating a single mom was basically a 2 month patch of sleeping with one but I never met the kid and we wasnt dating, if I had nothing else going on we would have some casual fun and I'd leave, she did freak me 1 time which is why I stopped, she asked me to not use a condom 😂 was like nope your not baby trapping me and didnt see her again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:24 AM
3

Improve on everything you can, the better you are overall the more appealing you will become because we all have faults and you want to hide then as much as possible. It really depends how attractive the women your talking about is.. if your average your not going to get a 8, 9 or 10.. Dont lead with your wallet either thats a sure way to get used by a gold digger and end up broke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 08:11 AM
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I personally like women with long hair (atleast touching there back) It woulsnt be a deal breaker for me if she was bald and wore wigs most the time though. I wouldn't find myself attracted to a women whose style was just simply short
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:47 AM
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5,7 and 70kg .. has a decent job, pretty chilled and laid back unless your an arsehole and I can be a prick back. I guess I'm average looking, 🤷‍♂️ and a high sex drive sure I'd date them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 10:00 AM
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Theres plenty of good wigs around if shes bald. I like long hair on a women but would date a girl that's bald, she can just wear a wig 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:57 AM
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Bald is no hair and if a women is bald like is due to a medical condition. Shaved head they have the ability to grow hair and it's just going to be very short. Theres a big difference between bald and shaven
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:56 AM
2

A beta bucks is a guy who has nothing to offer but his wallet so leads with it, gets used for his money and trampled on by women. His unable to stick up for himself and is treat like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:43 PM
1

Being able to get someone pregnant doesnt mean you can hold down a relationship never mind find a decent women. And 61% above 15 isnt really a good way to make the arguement. What's the numbers 15 to 30/40?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:47 PM
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It normally comes up when talking about past relationships ect.. Iv had plenty of women ask me how many iv slept with and one even thought my number was high because its 13 (I'm 29 years old) lost my virginity at 16 .. I really wouldn't count it as a high number Had a few long term relationships in that time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:56 PM
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It's simply masterbating with visual images, its nothing remotely close go watching your girlfriend get cheeks clapped. By your logic we might aswell say your a cuck for thinking any women in a relationship is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:49 PM
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I couldnt care less when it doesnt effect me. But your not a HVM because you earn alot of money .. men that lead with there wallet arent high value. These kind of men often end up broke once a they've used all there finances trying to buy the love of there partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:02 PM
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Exactly, people arent getting rejected purely on height unless they are drastically smaller then everyone else, hence the 5'4 and below men who actually are short struggling more. You've got to maximize what you have to work with, make yourself as attractive as possible, keep well groomed dont look like a hobo, get into shape, being overweight is terrible for your SMV.. Have some hobbies and so you seem interesting.. just because the best version of yourself. To many guys moan that they arent at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:11 PM
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Being in good shape just shows me you've got more to offer then a pay packet. But if you think 25 year olds will be looking at you when you 40/50 your deluded. They are going to want to fuck the attractive guy thats I his physical peak .. that isnt a 50 year old dude. Shes not going to be interested in settling down with some 50 year old dude who probaly already has kids and wont want any more. The only women your going to get at that age in life that are 25 are prostitutes, girls with issues an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:02 PM
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That's my point that just going and doing STEM and getting a good job isnt a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 05:55 PM
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That's not my point. My point is that theres a portion of men who believe that if they just get a good paying job and save until there mid 30s or 40 that they will suddenly be able to attract all the women, this simply isnt the case. Having a good paying job will help you have a better and easier life but it's not going to give you a high quality women. Other qualities on top of your finances are going to provide that. Where a women works personally doesnt interest me because when we decide to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 05:37 PM
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Simply having aload of money isnt a good idea for getting laid, for being "smart" these people dont seem to be able to grasp reality. People who can get laid get laid regardless of how much money they have. All having money is going to mean is you might find a gold digger that makes you her bitch because you know you cant do any better. Lead with your wallet you going to go broke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:37 PM
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Like iv said religion does has come good points that I agree with, its just a shame its ran by corrupt men and women who use it to control the masses, gain power and enrich themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:33 PM
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Indeed, Having a nice face, nice body, enjoyable/fun person to be around aswell as successful and able to look after yourself is important aswell. Maximum what you've got to play with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:04 PM
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Which height do you mean? I'm sure they are capable of finding a partner aslong as they are ok in other areas.. you cant just purely blame height for never being unable to find a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:26 PM
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Sex isnt everything but it's one of the most important pillars in a relationship and people seem to forget that. Well when some women are perfectly happy to spread there legs go a guy they've known for a few hours you kind of are? You basically letting someone come in off the street and eat at your table not knowing anything about them. Dont be shocked and complain when the fresh gravy doesnt want to pour it over your soggy used up fries
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:11 PM
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Theres chaos with or without religion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:06 PM
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I'm not sure where your from, 5'9 is average height for men here.. and most people i know arent over 6ft. Yes 5,7 is short I'm not denying that but there is a taller and shorter average to which is 2inch either side of 5'9. That's why majority of people I see walking down the street will be between 5.7 and 5.11, and why 6ft is seen as the tall magic number as its above average. How much it effects you? I'm really not sure, if definitely been rejected because of my height but iv also had a decent…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:11 AM
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It's a shame the powers at the top dont follow the morals of the religions they preach. It's as if they just use it as a way to control the masses while enriching themselves and gaining power. My source? History
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:01 AM
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I never said that I'm an atheist, i just see religions as just as corrupt as all the things you've mentioned. Everything is turning more tribalist. I dont need a religion to tell me what morals I should and shouldn't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:58 AM
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I'm not singling out christianity. I believe the idea of a higher power, creator or god is real. However I find issue with religions as they are just used to control and dictate people. Theres been countless numbers of religions some vastly different to others, all written by men in there own interpretation. Then you have people fighting each other over religions that are basically the same thing. To me religion has turned into a cult to create power and wealth at the top. Do I deny the possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:53 AM
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Elements maybe but the religion thing as a whole is a no thanks from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:30 AM
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I'd rather everyone had to wait regardless. Telling me iv got to wait because your more interested me me long term isnt going to cut it. What's in it for me? Mr ONS got everything on a silver platter and you dont even care about him ? He had to invest thing. But the person you interested in has to spend time and money to prove they are worth the same amount of intimacy as mr no effort? Women like this have it the wrong way round
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:28 AM
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Tall guys must think your going to back down because of there height advantage. I'm on the shorter side 5,7ft , every fight iv ever had the other person has been taller and majority of the time if you just smack them clean in the face as soon as they try to intimidate you they back off and shut up. Recently had a tall guy 6ft stand by his garden gate and try and offer me out for a fight.. he was expecting me to kick off and meet him half way.. he just stood at his gate and ended up going back in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:07 AM
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I'm guessing your either dutch, Scandinavian or that bit of western europe because 5,11 to 6.0 is tall Here he average guy is 5,9.. give the scope of 1 or 2 inch either side and you've got majority of guys falling between 5,7 and 5,11
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:58 AM
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I'm 5,7 too and in reality it's really not that small .. its just the short end average. I'm still the same height or taller the majority of women. The height issue is more likely for guys under say 5,4 as your going to find alot of the women are actually taller then you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:53 AM
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I never said I only want casual and dont really like it but its quite annoying having a girl and then her friends plaster over social media that you said your looking for a relationship but pumped and dumped there friend. No I just realised I wasnt interested in them afterwards.. but I'm in the wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:05 PM
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Someones spent to long on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:30 PM
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Yes and no .. do I lead women on and promise them stuff ? No But do I know that if they sleep with on the first date I'll lose interest and not speak to them again? Yes I might not be manipulating them to get what I want, but I'm definitely giving them enough rope to hang themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:20 PM
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How many of those women had "I dont count that one" in there 0 sex last year. Women make up some maybe reasons for claiming whatever guy doesnt count
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:36 PM
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A mans role is to earn the romantic/sex from a women that's why we doing the chasing. It's a womens role to give us a reason to stay, if he walks out after sex there was probably nothing else shown to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:32 PM
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Ask me my intentions and I say I'm open to anything but I'm not rushing into anything either.. what do you expect me to say I want to be your boyfriend ? If your not vague at the start your obviously weird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:29 PM
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You dont need to lie about your intentions you just be vague. A girl asks me my intentions ? Easy to see how it goes I'm in no rush for anything. For whatever reason if a girl likes me she then ends up throwing herself at me, I'm a guy.. put sex on a plate il take it. But dont be surpised if I dont call again after that or if I do it's only ones or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:27 PM
1

Shame men are ugly huh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:40 PM
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Women that chase badboys especially as you get older are trash.. I'l wouldn't touch them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:28 PM
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Men and women are different you need to remember this. Sure i can be friendly chat to women, even keep contact with them but unless there is a romantic interest I have no intention of spending any kind of sacrificate time with them. If I want to do activities with friends I find my male friends tend to enjoy the same things as myself alot more then any female friend I have. Female friends i have had tend to be alot more emotional and iv had them complain that I don't make enough effort in the fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:40 PM
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Or maybe I was raised in a home where my parents didnt hug me or my siblings? And its perfectly normal to me to not have physical contact all the time? I like my own personal space, I dont want people invading it. Dont know where your getting this most women should be hugging you when they see you information 😂 none of my family hug each other, none of my co workers hug each other and none of my friends hug each other ( unless they are drunk ) And that's with each other not just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:45 PM
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No 😂 how very wrong. I go to work, I go out and interact with my friends. Get to know people through meeting up together. I'm currently seeing someone/FWB. If I use dating apps it's not to try and form any kind of relationship, because from iv found the people on there are typically quite messed up and have alot of treats I dont like. Do i think I'm going to get a super model or better then everyone else ? No I work on myself to be the best version of me, for me not for anyone else, I have no in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:23 PM
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Depends what kind of women I'm looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:10 PM
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Dating apps are known to be full of people looking for validation and attention. I have female friends who have told me they love going on then and having 100s of guys messaging them about how beautiful ect they are and have 0 interesting in even responding or ever meeting them. Ones words were it makes me feel good and pretty. I refuse to give any validation to women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:02 PM
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Because it's just full of egotistical assholes fishing for attention and likes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:00 AM
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Your allowed your perspective 😂 I'm not some crazy guy saying only my way is correct. I think women have a different opinion of beauty for a women compared to a man. Sure you will get some guys with a fat fetish but that's certainly not the normal, dont let that fool you into a false sense of security and that men are ok with it Most cases I know where guys are with larger women are from 2 things They either got together and she put weight on afterwards, Or the guy is just a complete waste of sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:44 AM
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Nice way of coming across, nice proportions and dress sense good social skills. Guys dont care really about body fat. Who told you these lies ? 😂 Fat has a massive effect on if your attractive. I dont know a single guy who has ever said shes funny or has a nice personality I want to fuck her. Men are visual, we dont care about your personality if it comes to just sex... do you think prostitutes sell there personality or there body? Theres a parameter of size that fits into what we find attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 10:02 AM
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Depends how overweight your talking. But as far as I can tell no they will still get a guy. Sure they wont be the first choice, but alot of guys drop there standard more and easier then women. I know a obese women who's slept with over 300 guys from dating sites and hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:54 AM
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I can understand them not wanting some random guy or women do it but I'm there friend and we all have that kind of friendship? I struggle to understand what other people are thinking. Just because I'm a man doesnt mean I'm some pervert trying to get in there pants, if that's how they really see me even though we are friends it's going go be quite upsetting, what's the point in because friends with women if all they really see me or other men as is perverts?
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/22 09:03 AM
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I'm not going to grab there boobs, but a common thing that is done is slapping someones butt as you walk past or sneak up behind them. Or if someone is bent over for whatever reason
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/22 08:58 AM
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Then why do they do it to me? I genuinely dont understand why it's different it's not like I'm some random guy coming up to them and doing it.. we are a bunch or friends
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/22 08:48 AM
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Yes, I don't understand why the reaction to me doing the exact same joke as my other female friends is treated so differently, we are all on the same page and level the only difference is I'm a guy ( we are all around the same age too) They even bring up sexual stuff for jokes it's all a laugh. I just find it weird and hard to understand that the only difference is me being a man so it suddenly becomes an issue Iv had my female co workers slap my butt before in the same kind of situations but it…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/22 08:37 AM
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Porn kinda work, strippers, anything that involves selling the sexual aspect of herself. Even if she left these jobs it would still put me off. Also management/director kind of roles I guess.. (I dont like dominating women or people in general) And I want multiple kids which would mean her takes years out to do this, so it's kinda pointless the fact she earns so much. Although I dont ultimately care how much she earns earns but more then responsibility that comes with those types of roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:36 PM
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That's nice, atleast some people are lucky enough to find women not just after a wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:35 PM
2

True dat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 08:58 PM
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No basis for what iv said ? 😂 just the fact I'm a guy and know this from personal experience plus every guy iv ever known. Make 2 average tinder profiles for a man and women and use then your see the complete difference in willingness to sleep with anyone compared to women who are more selective. Iv pulled and slept with enough women to know I'm perfectly capable of doing so. No facts or arguments just a personal attack just admit your wrong and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:39 PM
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A guy with sleep with 80%+ of the women he meets for a casual hookup it's not an issue to us and it certainly doesnt mean we find you attractive. Difference is just because we are willing to put our wonder weener in you doesnt for a second mean we are willing to form any kind of relationship or put a ring on your ringer. Now let's swap this around are women going to sleep with 80% of the guys she sees walking down the street ? The answer is no Your all taking turns sharing the same couple of dic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:32 PM
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If whenever iv used tinder I auto swipe right on everyone without even looking at there profiles. I cant be bothered to look at pictures and bios I simply sift through the matches and decide from that who I'm going to bother to message. Il prioritize looks and then bio, No interesting bio not message from me and I refuse to compliment women in there appearance from the photos.. I refuse to give people free attention that use these apps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:26 PM
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If she fucks about with other guys but makes you wait.. got a wake up call for you buddy shes not that into you. Shes probaly fucking some other guy while making you wait as mr backup
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:13 PM
1

I have no interest in being a step parent what so ever.. I want my own family and own kids.. I want to put all my attention and resources into my own kids and partner. Plus from personal experience iv know countless couples who are "step parents" and the women puts off having kids with you as she already has them. Or another common thing I have seen is the partner and there ex still have sleeping with each other, so you basically get cheated on. No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:25 AM
3

A show of commitment can easily leave you with an empty wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:10 AM
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What would have changed from you becoming his wife instead of girlfriend? Divorce has huge risks for men, what benefit was marriage going to be to him ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:10 AM
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Marriage back in the days before casual sex/sex out of wedlock was would have been a key factor and advantage to marriage for men. It's been shown that the more you sleep around the more you lose the bonding element that comes with sex with your partner, people with high body counts are incapable of settling down with another person they continue to chase the rush of "something new" but that feeling deteriorates over time just like a drug addicts addiction to drug Highs. Women start something li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:56 AM
1

I agree, men deserve the same rights women have
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 08:15 PM
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No one is expecting women to not have sex with people.. I think your seriously underestimating the amount of people women sleep with in this day and age. I have a female nurse friend in her late 20s, shes slept with over 50 people, her co workers she hangs around with and friends outside of work all have a similar number. Its disgusting Edit .. Also remember that they have "relationships" in this time in her 10/15 years of being sexually active shes spent half of it in relationships. That means …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:08 PM
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Yes they have I see men regularly ridiculed and abused by women in everyday life and the media. The difference is no one gives a hoot about men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:03 PM
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Those guys that think there suddently going to become chick magnets at 35 and able to compete with the younger guys are going to have a hell of a wake up call when they finally reach 35. Your not going to attract the women that are currently rejecting you, all that's happened is you've got older and less attractive, less fun and more responsibility. If your one of the few that make a good salary then you might be able to buy some gold diggers and become a wallet for some girl. The only differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:45 PM
3

Most single people I know live at home with there parents still because they cant afford to run a household on there own
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:56 PM
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About 6 weeks ago... Was sleeping with 2 people about 2/3 months ago.. now I'm just talking to someone iv been sleeping with for the past 2 years Iv been in an unofficial relationship type thing for about 2 years. ( we agreed to not sleep with anyone else) Before that I hadnt had a "relationship for about 6/7 years. In that time I slept with around maybe 6 people. For 3 of them years I had some health issues that stopped me even attempting to date. I'm just your average guy Iv slept with a total…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:49 PM
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Because the hookup culture sucks ? No one takes responsibility for anything or attempts to work on issues. We have been pushed into a situation where you require 2 working people in a household to have any kind of decent living. (Single people get fucked over) but everyone just hooks up and doesnt commit so it's a double whammy. Being brought up in a single parent household leaves you at a disadvantage compared to a traditional family. It has numerous benefits. Birth rates have plummeted and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:12 PM
1

No and no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:47 PM
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I'd say the wall is the realisation that your looks are starting to fade so you panic and try and latch onto someone. It's extremely common in women as they approach 30 ish Men have it too I guess but not quite to the same level as we arent use to the kind of attention females get on a daily basis.. therefore we wont notice it as much ..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:36 AM
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That doesnt devalue the fact it's important, nore have you asked the reasons why its important
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:04 PM
1

That's because sex is important
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:22 PM
1

No relationship is going to be constant fun.. that kind of thinking is a huge problem with todays generation.. everyone is constantly chasing the butterflies of a new relationship.. the dompimin rush .. Truth is that shit doesnt last .. aslong as you get on well with your partner have the same life goals , you build a life together and a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:12 PM
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It's the shorter size within the average range. For whatever reason people especially girls dont believe me when I say my height, they assume I'm shorter.. I'm not really sure why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:43 PM
1

There not 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:49 PM
1

No its not. You dont love them, you love the lifestyle they are giving you and what you get out if them. But you dont respect or love the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:24 AM
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Dude you dont get ugly losers with high body counts 😂 Only men with high body counts are attractive and have other forms of success with either financial or status. The kid at school that gets bullied isnt sleeping with all the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:24 PM
1

About 5% of men are the whores the rest of us are happy to settle down, difference is the 5% get all the women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:40 PM
1

That's called prostitution and people dont include that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:38 PM
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High count men arent high value because they sleep around. They sleep around because they are high value. You wont see many "losers" with high body counts because women arent interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:37 PM
3

She told me a she has a rape fantasy/fetish and asked if I wanted to stop in a hotel with her .. and said nothing will happen though. Obviously I ran a mile and didnt go back with her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:59 AM
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I'm seeing someone and have been for awhile but it's not "offical" its monogamous though we dont see other people And as for pill I dont identify with any. I have some views that match certain ones I guess , but in all honest I dont understand all the pills and what each one means
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:05 PM
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I hate cheating regardless of sex.. but I wouldn't call myself red pill.. or any pill for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:29 PM
1

Same that's the whole point of the post they living a lie and being conned. Some of the women in here had the nerv to say "well his happy what's the issue" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:46 PM
1

Women are chasing the muscular guys, why do you think so many guys are sticking needles in there arse and taking steroids? Steroid use in guys is extremely common where I live, I can see the difference a mile away but girls are basically normalizing it by making it the requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:02 PM
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It's because we live in a society where women refuse to take accountability for anything, they have it drummed into there heads how perfect and special they are all there lives, when something negative comes along they either dismiss it as false, change the subject to something they feel victimized about or totally ignore it. They don't see this as there problem as it never effects them. You've hit the nail on the head with those countrys, I'd imagine its extremely rare to ever raise another man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:59 PM
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It's up to her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:59 PM
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Women what the hot guy as much as the lads want the hot girl. The difference is men will understand they arent all going to get the hot girl and date at the same level Women dont understand this because they overestimate there level because guys will sleep with 90% of the women they meet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:45 PM
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People dont even really understand the personality types, if you agree with the concept there is more the alpha and beta
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/22 08:43 PM
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Having 1 default size test dummy isnt a male privilege, men come in loads of shapes and sizes and I'm pretty sure theres some women that should have a similar build to some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:15 PM
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If the most important thing you can come up with is test dummies then I dont think youve got any issues
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:00 PM
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Men win 60% of cases for full custody.? 😂 that's a lie My friend had to to time court to get full custody and was told he was one of the lucky ones because when a women fights it only about 5% of them win https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jun/13/single-fathers-uk-statistics Men make up 13% of 1 parent households
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:58 PM
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Men also have less rights to there child and can even be forced to pay for a child they didnt want, women can just go get an abortion Women win like 96% of cases when it comes to custody, in fact I dont know any single parent men.. society being nice about the small amount isnt exactly a privilege That's for a wide range of reasons but you dont get fat ugly male players. Theres plenty of ugly overweight slut women, the reason they arent dont get praise for it is because it's easy Is that because…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:12 PM
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That's hardly a privilege, they don't use obses, tiny or huge dummy either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:06 PM
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I'm a man and my opinions and suggestions have been completely ignored and brushed aside multiple times. Later they are used by someone else and actually listened to. Believe me just because your a man doesnt automatically mean you gain respect from people, in fact it's a constant battle to try and get it and then not lose. Losing it is alot easier then gaining it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:03 PM
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Be easier for you to tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:53 PM
1

You cant date a character from a show, movie, book, game or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:23 PM
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No, I'd treat them exactly the same for a respect level. I do find the whole thing alittle odd though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:23 AM
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No we wouldnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:20 PM
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6.5% or men aren't rapists, that's a stupid comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:17 PM
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Are you going to try and argue with me and say men are happy to marry a women when he knows aload of his mates and people he knows has slept with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:03 PM
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3% of babys born is more then enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:05 PM
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My thread is based on the fact a large percentage of men dont realise they arent the father
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:53 PM
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My stands are pretty simple.. No drug addicts/alcoholics No lazy bums.. (im fine with them not working if they do other things.) No cheaters Be a decent person and not selfish Find something about them attractive Loyalty to me Has self respect and hasnt slept with half the town Will have my back as much as I have hers No kids <- I dont want to be a step father I want my own family. Basically my standards are you average decent human being with the added side of finding them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:48 PM
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Depends what kind of character you've given off. No one wants to wife up the town bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:40 PM
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Prenups worth both ways ? Why should you be entitled to half of everything someone has built before you even married them? Everyone should have a prenup
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/22 10:23 AM
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But your missing the point that men will generally find 80% of these people attractive. And men are more likely to negotiate on what they dont like to make something work. The only guys that wont are either top 10% and doing need to or morons that dont see there own worth. That still leaves 80% of reasonable guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:51 PM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:46 PM
6

So you believe it's a privilege to date me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:42 PM
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Men aren't chasing the tip 5%-20% 😂. It's more likely we discount the bottom 5%-20%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:40 PM
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I never said people shouldn't date them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:37 PM
2

Auto correct on my phone likes to mug me off
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:35 PM
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Women are neither a right or a privilege.. they aren't that special
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:33 PM
4

From what I see you get friendzoned on your looks not from being passive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:10 PM
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2 and 3 are the same. The only difference is physical looks and money/status
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:46 PM
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They are either in a relationship already so not on the market. But you have to remember an attractive guy has plenty of options Even in a relationship they will have women available to him so he can easily cheat if he so wishes ( this is where the men cheat all the time ) rumour comes from. Or because he has so many options he will break up with his partner easily. Average guys are less likely to end a relationship, they would rather try and work it out, it's more difficult for them to gain a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:07 PM
1

Egh might aswell ask if I want to lose a hand or a foot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:31 PM
1

Does the OF girl show her face ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:08 PM
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What's automod mean 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:03 PM
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Good for you, glad you meet people on your level. Obviously I'm not talking about every women but there is a large percentage that are like this. I have a female friend that constantly complains about how guys mess her about. Shes simply chasing guys out of her league
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:42 PM
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Yes I do. Obviously I have a few requirements for that but nothing major
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:08 PM
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Average guys have trouble dating because to often we have women that would rather date up into the top 20% of guys so they all chase them and all end up on his dick router. Meanwhile the 60% of guys that are average are left with like 40% of women take into consideration of that 40% maybe half of then are well below average or down right undatable for several reasons. The problem is to many women having super higher standards that they dont meet themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:03 PM
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They will be house husbands they wont know about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:56 PM
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They will chase the top 20% of good looking guys and end up as single moms Then if they desire will look for some loser guy to raise the kids for her while she earns the money and continues to go riding the cock circle while the loser step father raises the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:26 PM
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Not necessarily anything wrong with him, plenty of average dudes have trouble dating. So they resort to a guaranteed buck for a buck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:54 PM
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Men are generally accepting of change that happens through a relationship, we appreciate everything we've been through together. Men generally arent materialistic about such things. Aslong as your still happy together thats all we care about
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 11:41 AM
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I think the problem is fat lazy women want to shoe horn themselves into the thicc nice ass thighs and boobs category rather then admiting they arent attractive and having to do something about it. They lack personal responsibility
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 11:38 AM
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Ass and thighs are my demise
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 11:36 AM
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I personally dont care how much money ect a women had or makes its only important. I don't care what martieral things such as perfume brands .. as long as she dresses nicely and takes care of her health/ hygiene. As for the nice body over nice face comment, I guess to a degree that is true. But it really depends how overweight, fat or obese we are talking. If your average looking your really got no problem dating unless your seriously overweight. If your average looking with an average or nice b…
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 11:29 AM
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I'd bang probably 80% of the women I see in the street.. if I was drunk it would probably rise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:23 PM
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Women should be rejected aswell. If your not interested in someone you should reject them, just because it's a women doesnt make them any different To be honest I dont often see women approaching men first, or atleast making moves first. Its certinaly not a common thing for me to experience 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:12 PM
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Everyone has there own preference that's cool and good. I think it would be better if more people were unique with there preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:05 PM
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5,7ft guy here.. it does kinda suck when people mainly women make comments about how short you are .. as I cant do anything about it .. I did hear theres height surgery but I'm not messing with that kinda stuff I always find it weird women my height or shorter sometimes barely over 5ft saying about how short I am. Even though I'm taller or the same height I dont mind if a girls taller then me though tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:36 PM
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I'm 5,7 and get told I'm small all the time, women shorter then me even make comments 😂 I find most women around my area to be 5,3 to 5,6 so im either the same height or slightly taller but they still see me as the small guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:33 PM
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I don't really mind about height, and I'm on the shorter side. I'm more picky with weight that, that's both to skinny and to big
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:30 PM
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I'm on the shorter side, but theres a female over 6ft that I find hot.. height wouldn't really bother me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:28 PM
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At a young age the women will fuck about with the guys they think are hot and not think so much about how much money they have, they always have some chum in the background ready to spend money on her anyway. Looks pay a bigger part to women then you think, if she can find a hot guy who earns alot she will settle down with him. Untill then she will fuck about with the hot guy knowing she can fall back on the piggy back if needed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:21 PM
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I'm English and found her annoying from the first film
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:10 PM
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Oh okay, each to there own, like what you like Not my thing but i like women 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:10 PM
2

I dont think theres an alternative, either be single or in a monogamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:01 PM
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Theres no way I could deal with the idea of sharing my girlfriend, it just infuriates me. 😂 then the idea that some people would live with multiple partners at the same time? I'd get locked up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:00 PM
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Nothing wrong with that 😂 we like what we like. I personally like a bum but not some wild over exaggerated thing, for me I think legs/thighs make the best bum. I'm into all kinds of women, if you check out my list your see 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:58 PM
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Emma Watson. I was never into her personally found her character really annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:55 PM
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I guess when I think of her I think iron nan 2 or he's just not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:48 PM
1

Name names
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:43 PM
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Opposite to me I think her body was banging but her looks have gone down hill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:40 PM
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Used to find her attractive I think shes aged quite badly though, when she cut her hair short it just killed it for me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:38 PM
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Emila clarke, Floor jansen <- 6,2ft with amazing legs and awsome stage presents during live performances, Simone simons <- epic bum <- live performances, Emily blunt, Tarja turunen <- when she was abit younger during the 2000-2010, Elize ryd, Alexandra daddario <- them eyes, Isla Fisher, Yanet garcia, Margot robbie, Some on my list may be abit unknown, feel free to ask about them, Try and guess my favourite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:29 PM
1

An average girl will get all of those things you've described
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:07 PM
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Its monogamy or single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:53 PM
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Your forgetting the fat that a women with child could do all of those things and if your "accident" happens you will have to pay for that child aswell as her others anyway. A women with children isnt a safe bet 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:44 PM
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It's about more then a dopamine release dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:10 PM
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Just because someone wants kids it doesnt mean you have to have them. And like iv said if it comes to stage where you do, it must means you raise your own kids not some other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:07 PM
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If your not living together and just casual dating, her having no kids is a better option, trying to get a baby sitter so you can go out is annoying, you cant have last minute plans. If you live with her your paying for the kid, weather it be directly or indirectly by funding the rest of the household. 😂 your not going to sell me that women with kids are better then without, it's simply not true, can you good women who do have kids? Obviously, but I'd still take the non kids option everytime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:05 PM
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Rare expectations dont make a norm, they guys where probaly trying there luck everyone they met anyway, men arent picky when it comes to casual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:32 PM
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How on earth is a childless women without kids, but may decide to want kids a worse option than women who already has a couple of kids ? Either way your going go end up paying again and atleast the new kids are yours not someone elses 😂 Give him the option and he will take no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:29 PM
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I'm curious to here more about your "dating life" Can we have some background or your age and the age of men ? What kind of men these are ? How many of them are sticking around ? Your talking asif theres multiple people so I'm guessing none they either dont stick around or they arent "anygood"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:24 PM
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I dont personally like size 0 women. 0 kids and a low as possible body count is definitely going to earn extra brownie points though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:02 PM
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As a man I can tell you that in a dating situation, if we had the option to between you and clone minus the child 99% of men will pick the clone. Dont want to sound harsh, but we dont want to bring up your kid, we just settle for it if we believe your worth the extra hassle .. or in some cases have no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:01 PM
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If you've not been heart broken youve not lived
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:25 PM
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Probably funding her lifestyle aswell so in a way he us giving it away. Sure theres plenty of blokes that would churn through his misses
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:21 PM
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If he wants to give his money away for nothing in return il happy take it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:19 AM
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I know thats my comment wasnt directly aimed at you. It's crazy how little worth some people have
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:49 PM
2

If the name fits shout it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:42 PM
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So you want to let women check on there partners with "better" men? And your excuse is you think they will end up with more sex ? Dude as soon as shes horny she will be out the door to the hot guy that pushes her buttons and gets her all hot under the collar. Not the loser she has sat at home paying for all her stuff, your litterly asking to be treated like a door mat. No one would benefit, it will just inflate the egos of women even more and give them an excuse to treat you like shit, as soon a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:38 PM
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Ye that's a hard pass from me, why the hell would I let my partner sleep with another man let alone end up pregnant by him and then raise the kids. What do I gain from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:33 PM
1

What does AF/BB mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:25 PM
2

So you only help those in need if they ask for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:14 PM
0

I'm 5.7 and 165.. I'm a guy too. I dont think she sounds big or overweight at all.
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 10:11 PM
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I never really take much notice of them graphs. It's obvious when you look at someone if they are overweight or not. If you need a chart to tell you there over eight weight they are probably fine. Plus that link is trying to promote weight loss surgery
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 10:08 PM
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Little chunky and abit of curve is nice in my opinion but it really depends how chunky and curvy .. Size 8 isnt what is class as large clothing either. I doubt your weight or build is an issue. Maybe he just has a lower sex drive then you, or theres other reasons.
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 10:04 PM
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Are women really that much lighter then men ? It seems so low. I'm trying to imagine a celebrity or something with those stats because it really doesnt sound big to me
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 10:00 PM
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I'm trying to imagine what someone would look like with that height and weight and I feel like it's being abit over exaggerated
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 09:58 PM
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160 pounds at 5.5 is over weight? Since when 😂
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/22 08:18 PM
1

To protect other men. And stop then becoming victims and wasting there life and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:14 PM
1

Makes you wonder why they want to op out huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:07 PM
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Because I dont think men are very good at hiding it. Its also harder for men to cheat overall. Its not accessing someone if your finding out the information for yourself, I personally will not raise another persons kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:06 PM
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Easily accessible by being offered at birth 😊 it's the fairest way, its confidential aswell to stop any emotional manipulation into not taking it. Nothing has been forced on women in my post. Take women out of the equation and the results for men remain the same Now its ended with equality for men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:03 PM
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Make a move, if she kisses you back shes into you If she slaps you shes not and you move on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:38 PM
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It's not just people with wives and girlfriends, what about casual dating/hookups ? This is for occasions where you would not suspect the women has cheated or was sleeping with other people at the time, theres lots of cases like this. Asking how many fathers have children there partner doesnt know about is missing the point. The women will not unknowingly take on these children, she will not unknowingly bring them up and provide her resources to raise them to ultimately find out they aren't hers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:36 PM
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This involves people that arent in a committed relationship aswel as those who are, Why do you insist that this is about women? I've said I believe men should take the test because we arent psychic or mind readers. How else are we to know if a chils is ours or not ? We do not have the luxury of birthing the child and witnessing it leave our body. If you dont want all men to test then what would you suggest? Seeing as this is about a minority of men who are tricked into raising a child that isnt …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:29 PM
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Because women are picker then men and there has been alot of studies showing that they find 80% of men unattractive The majority of them chase the same "golden goose" men which basically play them because they have options. Once they hit the wall they will settle for an average guy if they can get hold of one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:39 PM
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I dont think there called studs, I think people just dont really care if men sleep around. True women get the blunt of and are called whatever name comes to mind. Personally I wouldn't call a women anything for sleeping around. But I sure as hell will be put off if I find out she does sleep around or is quick to sleep with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:02 PM
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Iv never cheated on someone who I'm in a committed relationship with Edit: I have been in strip clubs plenty of times but in all honestly I dont actually like them. Everyone I know who has been tend to go for a laugh and abit of fun, not anything serious, no plans on offering money for sex Some have gone to just see what it's like. I'd imagine alot of the people lie to you about being in a relationship to try and impress you.. weird I know Also I'd imagine the majority of them who try things wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:48 PM
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Unless it's for a valid medical reason it should be illegal. It seems to be a very common thing in USA, I find the whole idea of it odd and barbaric. Hell no one would be chopping mine off
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:36 PM
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A man taking a paternity test to find out if he has become a father is about women? No I think its justified to know where I stand in the world and if I have became a father. The overwhelming majority have agreed with my post based on men having the write to know if they have a child. Its starting to sound like you either have a victim mentality or something to hide. Either way your allowed your own opinion but please stop lying and saying this post is about women and release this is a mens issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:30 PM
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That's like saying pick better numbers at the lottery. You cant predict what a women or any other living human will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:03 PM
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You do realise raising someone elses kid isnt the go to option for men right? That's why its classed as baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:02 PM
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And the loss of time and resources of a man, the biological should pick up the bill instead. If someone wants to carry on and raise the child I have no problem with that. But dont expect men to happily raise someone elses kid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:00 PM
1

That's $60 at retail price to the public,a massively inflated price. Bought in bulk from a manufacturer the real price is more likely less then a 10th of that price
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:58 PM
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Not when the test is to find out if I'm the father Your making this about women when its actually to find out If a mans really the biological father
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:54 PM
1

Its messed up in my opinion I wouldnt be ok with it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:27 PM
1

It's for all situations so marriage, dating and even casual flings
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:18 PM
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Its not, if you want to turn this post into an emotional arguement because your butt hurt and think everything men is about women that's your problem. It's about mens right if you cant understand that it's your problem you can think whatever you like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:17 PM
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They arent aware of how high the rate is though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:15 PM
1

No what they need to do is walk away from the situation. I'd walk straight out the door and not look back
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:14 PM
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No, that is obviously rape but that article doesnt say 5% of men admit to raping someone. This is why I want to know what the questions are, so they arent manipulating the question to get the answers they seek
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:13 PM
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Yes it matters I want to raise my own biological children If I decide to become a step parent ( which I will not do ) I should have the choice in that. Being lied and tricked into raising someone elses child is fraud. Plus I wouldnt want want anything to do with the women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:19 AM
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Other men need to be made aware that this is a huge problem that will effect alot of us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:17 AM
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Because I believe it's a false statistic, It put rape and "attempted rape" into the same percentage, All it did was ask some men a few scenarios and then depending on there answer decided they would have raped someone or not. Where are the questions for examples? Where are the answers ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:16 AM
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If my wife has unprotected sex with another man and gets her pregnant without me knowing how is that my fault ? This is a proposal to stop men unknowingly raising another mans kid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:02 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:58 PM
1

No because maybe 10% are and I'm never going to be able to tell who's the cheat and who isnt.. it saves me 100k in fees raising another mans child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:58 PM
1

I don't believe the statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:56 PM
1

I'm being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:54 PM
1

So a private company that basically owns the goverment will have that data instead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:27 PM
1

I'm not misreading it. And the point still stands that the number is quite high when you take into account the amount of children born and fathers around
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:26 PM
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Men have the choice to stay and raise the child if they so wish. BUT they should be made aware that the child isnt theres, women committing fraud isnt acceptable. And the child would have a biological father still.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:24 PM
1

I will and I believe every man should
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:22 PM
1

I some what agree I highly doubt that will ever happen though. Giving men the option to become fathers isnt a popular topic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:22 PM
1

And the 3% to 10% of men who think they are raising there own child but in fact arent ? There is numours reasons why they are unaware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:20 PM
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https://dnatesting.com/30-of-men-not-the-father/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/11/childrensservices.uknews This is to stop men unknowingly raising another mans child using there time and financial resources. Children aren't cheap and to be lied to and unknowingly raise someone elses is fraud. This test wouldn't be a gotcha test either, I'm sure plenty of people cheat and dont end up with a child involved. It benefits men that are lied too, it makes people take…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:18 PM
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We need to find a solution to fix it though, we need to make paternity tests at birth a normalized thing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:10 PM
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The problem is I dont think we are good at sussing out cheaters. I know to many people that cheat and get away with it, its incredibly common
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:09 PM
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So men have to sneak around ? I can already imagine the response for doing so and your partner finds out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:08 PM
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That could work to I just wasnt sure the best way to word it. Government mandate just came out easier 😂 either way I want to normalize men having paternity tests from birth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:07 PM
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I dont do any of those things either. Your missing the point of my post, even if you trust someone they can be unfaithful and you never find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:06 PM
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I think you've misread my post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:04 PM
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I know you dont, the massive majority dont either. It's just shame some women are taking it personally when it's not intended to be
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:03 PM
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I dont have trust issues I a real problem and I don't want to be one of the men in that 3%-10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:00 PM
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The men who take paternity tests have a 32% negative result rate. The 3 to 10 percentage is men that unknowingly raising another mans child
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:59 PM
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I want it to be a normal procedure when giving birth, theres to much stigma around it at the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:57 PM
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I have to right to know the child I'm paying for and raising is mine, if a women has a problem with that shes obviously the wrong women and likely a cheat anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:55 PM
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My partner is allowed to think other men are attractive it doesnt bother me, and I may or may not be her first choice. But I will not tolerate cheating or disrespect. I find plenty or other women attract too and she may or may not be the most attractive person iv been with, I dont let her know the answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:04 PM
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The 32% is people who currently take dna tests and fail( are not the father) Currently these tests are only really used when a partner has been caught cheating around the time of conception, if a women is sleeping around and admits shes been sleeping with multiple guys or to prove fatherhood for courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:36 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/11/childrensservices.uknews https://dnatesting.com/30-of-men-not-the-father/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:32 PM
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Making an excuse to prove large percentage arent whores too. It's about confirming who the father is, men have that right as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:19 PM
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Because is fraud, why should a man raise another persons child because his partner is secretly a hoe? Also it can have negative effects on the child if hereditary health conditions are looked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:17 PM
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That has put attempted rape and official rape in the same category, and it's just asking if men about a scenario and then saying that would have been rape or not. It's not really giving much detail.about any of the situations or how many men would have actually go through all the act Sure I believe there is rape but I dont believe 5% of men are rapists. That would suggest around 1m men in the uk are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:16 PM
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32% figure is when people have suspicion that the child isnt there because cheating is confirmed. The figure for just testing every child at birth would obviously be alot lower then 32%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:10 PM
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If the mother doesnt want the money, the cash can go to fund either child benefits or police to investigate crimes like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:08 PM
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Your missing my point, the point is men being unaware that the child they are raising isnt theres. Yes men can cheat and get another women pregnant but his partner is never going to raise that child thinking its hers. Lots of women fuck about with other guys and simply stay with a provide bloke who has cash. It's not an uncommon thing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:06 PM
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Actually for people who took dna test the negative result is 32% And I'm not saying 3%-10% of children are not there fathers, this is including situations where there is multiple children families and only 1 child is not biologically the mans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:13 AM
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It doesn't cross anyones mind because dna testing at birth isnt really spoken about. The only time this comes up is when there is known affairs and cheating involved. If you bring up this topic without any suspicion then your partner and alot of people attack you saying you dont trust then she are accusing them of cheating. When in reality its wanting to confirm you are indeed the father
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:10 AM
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Yes I know that's the reason for negatives being so high. That's why the other stat is in there. But please be aware that's a child that isnt theres. A man could have 5 children with a women and only 1 not be biologically his own, so I'm not saying 3% of babys are being raised by the "wrong" father. A few of the top websites when I Googled it plus iv seen YouTube videos with links about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:04 AM
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Yep it benefits everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:01 AM
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I doubt the results from the rest are instant so there and be any arguing straight after birth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:58 AM
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How and what is that 😂😂 New user here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:57 AM
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I agree the issue is a number of women go on the defensive and attack because they feel like your accusing them of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:56 AM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:54 AM
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I'm not sure what Walgreens is but not every country has easy access to these tests
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:54 AM
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In all honestly women shouldn't be having unprotected sex with random dudes, they should take some responsibility about that. They know they could end up pregnant simply dont sleep around with strangers. So every child would be required to do a dna test anyway in order to be on the birth certificate? We might aswell just do it at birth in that case. Are you also saying men wont have any financial obligations to the child until on the birth certificate? Women get the massive majority of choice wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:53 AM
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Its not about losers not reproducing, it's about a percentage of men not unknowingly raising another mans child because his partner is a hoe that sleeps around
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:47 AM
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The problem is women will massively over react to being asked for the test by there partner, especially if they havent cheated, which I completely understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:46 AM
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Goodluck with that 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:44 AM
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This is for situations where men are 100% trusting there partner and unknowingly raising a child that isnt theres.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:43 AM
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Some men seem blind to this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:42 AM
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I dont believe that figure of 5% of men are rapists But if you want to have mi dna for such things sure take it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:42 AM
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All that could have been prevented with at birth dna testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:40 AM
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Why should a guy pay for someone elses child? The women would likely know who the actual father is and they could contact him make him do a test and he could pay for his own child. It benefits the children because they will know here family history and can be made aware of hereditary health conditions. Iv got no sympathy for the single moms that are in that boat because they slept around and cheated. Maybe it will make women more sensible with who they have sex with Or atleast practice it safely
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:39 AM
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If you dont know your correct father you wont know of any hereditary health conditions which could seriously impact your life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:35 AM
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I agree for this too,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:24 AM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:23 AM
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Lie detector tests are inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:22 AM
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Women can still cheat and not get pregnant, And arent lie detector tests inaccurate? Only correct around 70% of the time ? That's why they aren't used in court. Also a women with never raise someone elses child unknowingly, she accepts the child thats the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:21 AM
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True but they should pay for the child they created and must not be allowed to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:19 AM
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I'd rather pay that i tax then be one of the guys who spend 100k raising someone elses kid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:13 AM
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3 to 10 percent isnt small. And it's not actually expensive to do..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:11 AM
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What if your trying for a baby and your partner is cheating at the same time ? She won't be on birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:09 AM
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I'm not accusing anyone of cheating Making me take on the financial and emotional effects of fatherhood without first proving I'm the father isnt exactly fair either You already know your the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:06 AM
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Your first part doesnt make sense to me. How would this effect women choosing to keep the child ? The only way it would is if shes cheating on her partner and knows theres a chance it's not his
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:58 AM
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They would likely continue cheating but need to practice safe sex, which reduces the risk of spreading STI, and lets face it alot of men would be out off knowing they have to use condoms all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:55 AM
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Your misunderstanding the point, men do trust women and thats why we end up with the statistics we have. The only way I will ever truly know if I'm a father is by DNA testing otherwise I must wishful thinking and hoping. I wouldn't be with someone if I didnt trust them, but me trusting them doesnt mean they still couldnt cheat on me, my trust has no control over that. Why shouldn't I have the right to know if a child is actually mine ? Women will always know the child is theres men do not, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:54 AM
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I agree, it's a very overlooked thing which in all honesty is the only way to confirm your the father
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:44 AM
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How is there an epidemic of men abandoning there children
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:42 AM
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The difference being you accept the body scan because know your flight destination, men dont have a clue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:47 PM
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20p per person per year is a tiny amount to pay .. or should I say 1.8p per month
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:45 PM
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Attacking a dyslexic persons grammar just screams ( I have no argument against this ) but wish to try and score points online, kinda vibe Mate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:43 PM
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I'm aware I'm just challenging your point of view, Iv not said your right of wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:37 PM
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In my opinion if your silly enough to pay for another guys kid thats there problem but I think it should be an option from the start and you know what your getting yourself into Yeh I never trust a womens words 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:35 PM
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The dna tests arent a dangerous or invasive test, alot worse happens to babies. An opt out system allows them to or to not consent. As a man I find that incredibly hard to believe that men wouldnt want to know if they're child is theres or not given a genuine free choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:29 PM
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It's based on men without suspicion and they believe there partner is loyal to them, the stats obviously show 3%-10% of those guys are incorrect in doing so. Why do you think its insulting ? It's not a person thing against just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:25 PM
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3%-10% is quite a high number, I believe the suspicious is valid. If the system is automatically opt in, it would become normalised and no one would think about it. In cases where people wanted to opt out that would raise suspicion for obvious reasons? Why opt out of the normal if you have nothing to hide
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:22 PM
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If your automatically opted in, the test would be done unless someone went and asked for it to not he done. In which case the guy is going to wonder why shes opted out ? The dont you trust me line is unlikely to sit very well as it seems suspicious to pull of out a test which has no negative effects on any of the participants It's based on people that dont have any suspicion to protect them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:19 PM
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What if he doesn't suspect anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:15 PM
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It effects 3%-10% of men That's not rare
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:14 PM
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So you want a man to spend 18 years of his life paying to raise a child, to then potentially find out the child isnt his ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:12 PM
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This post isnt about men who suspect it, it's for the men that totally unaware and have no suspicion that the child isnt theres. Therefore basically living a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:11 PM
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If shes been deceitful and irresponsible then she needs to take responsibility for her actions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:10 PM
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3% to 10% of women are letting men raise a child that isnt theres.. if you want to talk about cheating figures that number is going to a hell of alot lower then 90% faithful 😂😂 most cheating isnt going to result in child It's nothing to do with my ego it's me not wanting to raise and spend my money on someone elses child. Who said to treat them like whores ? Should we just forget about this 3%-10% ? Pretend it doesnt happen ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:09 PM
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They can choose all they like How do men have the responsibility to choose how women have sex or reproduce? You can have sex with whoever you want and either have childs or an abortion. Your blaming men for trusting there partner and ending up being cheated on ? Then when we suggest a solution, you say its wrong and our responsibility What precautions can we take to avoid this ? We have have way of knowing if they child is ours or not unless we test. Women know if the child is theres because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:03 PM
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I think your missing the point of the post. It's about situations in which men are unaware and do not suspect the child isnt theres. Why would they need to go to court every 6 weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:57 PM
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That's hard to prove and kinda a different situation. Both are wrong but the women isnt financially effected and unknowing raising another persons child if they man cheats. She had the choice to stay and help raise his affair partners child. On the other hand he will not know his raising another mans child
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:56 PM
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Because if men were truthful (without social pressure if stigma) the massive majority would not take on another mans child given the choice, especially after cheating. Your removing the mans choice to pick weather or not he wants to spend his life raising another persons child as he doesn't realise his doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:53 PM
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Your free to have your opinion 🙂 I just think a better system then what we currently have needs to be implemented, theres already been a number of women in this post saying they would split or divorce there partner If they requested a dna test
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:49 PM
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That's a really shit situation but a perfect example of what this leads. Its heart breaking for everyone. The women I have no sympathy for. I however dont agree with death penalties in general so cant agree on that point. A women in the uk was found guilty of this kind of fraud, I cant remember the outcome though, I think it was a large fine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:47 PM
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I'm pointing at a statistic that states 3%-10% of men are in this situation. These are men unaware and do not think there partner has cheated. I have seen to men people cheat to think that it doesnt happen. It happens alot even in couples that youd never dream of witnessing it. But that's not really the point, if it was normalised as part of having a child this awkward conversation wouldnt ever happen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:25 PM
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Iv seen plenty of good youtube videos that provide official information, it must depends if you go down some crazy weirdo rabbit hole or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:21 PM
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Maybe it could be a simple opt out if you dont want it system. I understand the worry with calling it a mandate , maybe I used the wrong words
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:20 PM
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I guess we could add the extra benefits of testing into that, it seems like a good.idea to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:18 PM
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Maybe I worded it incorrectly, an opt out system at birth ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:15 PM
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That's incredibly expensive and time consuming, a simply test of every child at birth is alot faster and cheaper
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:14 PM
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In the uk it would mean test 650k babies per year. Roughly costing 20p per person per year in tax Would create aload of new jobs too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:12 PM
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If it helps to know the family history of hereditary health conditions I see it as a benefit and should be necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:11 PM
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When do you allow the child to make that decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:10 PM
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Sounds fair to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:09 PM
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When did I ever say i saw my wife as disposable? Or untrustworthy? I have the right to know the children I'm paying for and raising are mine. If someone wants to test me and threaten to leave me because she doesnt respect me enough to understand my point that's fine I wouldnt stop her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:09 PM
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It was classed as fraud in the case in the uk. I'm not saying they do make bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:05 PM
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Some factories check all staff as they leave, they arent accusing you of stealing. Airports check everyone that gets on the plane, they arent accusing you of drug smuggling or being a terrorist. Dont you believe a man has a right to know the child his raising is his? And that a child knows it's too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:02 PM
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Seems to be alot of the problem is Americans disagreeing over tax. If your system was the same as the uk where we do not pay would you agree ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:59 PM
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I wouldnt agree with any violence etc towards the women, either leave her or stay. That being said I dont think the tiny percentage of men overeating should stop everyone else knowing the child is theres. Men have as much right to know the child is biologically theres as women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:58 PM
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You guys need a refund
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:55 PM
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I dont understand why them having birth control effects this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:54 PM
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Love a challenge, I'd write my name first
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:52 PM
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A women lying for financial gain, (she knows the man might or definitely isnt the father) was classed as fraud in the uk due to the man paying money to support the childs. Its effectively fraud. This case was on the news
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:50 PM
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The women control the access to sex, stop hooking up and you wont get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:48 PM
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They provided links i cant be bothered to look for the videos though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:47 PM
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Your a brave man go be so trusting, from personal experience looking around at others.. you should never trust anyone but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:46 PM
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That sucks, if you didnt have the financial burden from living in your states would you agree to it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:44 PM
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It costs 20p per person per year in tax The government get involved in your person matters all the time. Atleast this way you dont send 100k on raising someone elses children unknowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:42 PM
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I dont really see how I could be a father in that situation anyway ? Iv left the women for cheating. Do you expect me to pay for her children still? If what I have proposed was implemented then we would never reach as situation where a man raises the children for 10 years and then finds out his not the father. They would know from birth then that is there choice to continue or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:41 PM
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Should also have the right to know its heritage and potential hereditary health conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:38 PM
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It it was me I'd opt in 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:37 PM
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I'm.not saying some men wouldnt do this but I wouldnt expect it to be very high. But that kind of reaction obviously shows the importance of this issue to people effected
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:36 PM
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Theres lots of things that could be classed as a personal problem but the government intervenes.. theft for example
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:35 PM
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That's up to you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:34 PM
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https://dnatesting.com/30-of-men-not-the-father/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/11/childrensservices.uknews I cant be bothered to list of them all, iv seen youtube videos about it too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:33 PM
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I'm new to reddit, still learning 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:32 PM
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How do you know there happy? They could be miserable and only staying with the women for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:31 PM
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500 hold your own child? Sounds like you've got a broken system 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:29 PM
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It stops women from committing fraud. And it means hereditary health conditions from the true father are known about. Seems like good benefits to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:28 PM
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So you think men a small percentage of men should be tricked into pay and raising children that arent theres ? They are lied to and financially drained, a case like this in the UK was classed as fraud. Having an incorrect father on the birth certificate could lead to potentially hereditary health conditions not being picked up on. This is effecting the health of people and fraud which is a criminal offense .. 2 things you said the goverment is responsible for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:26 PM
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This is for situations where the men have no reason and do not suspect there partner has cheated and the kids are not theres. You could be in the most perfect relationship and your partner could still cheat and youd never find out. Majority of cheating is never caught. And your reaction and jumping to divorce is the exact reason the government should make it an opt in or mandatory from birth thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:21 PM
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Im not accusing every women on the planet of cheating. But there is obviously a number that do and as a result a number of men unwillingly and unknowingly raising another mans child How about we say its verification of the father? A women always knows shes the mother.. a man never really knows if his the father
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:18 PM
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Google it and link and the number of links. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links in here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:15 PM
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I wouldn't nesscairy completely cut contact with them, but I wouldnt act like a father to them anymore because I wouldnt be. That means i wouldnt pay to raise them etc. Still having contact if they wish maybe but I'd class myself as a friend from that point not father. Maybe it's because I was raising with a step father. I'm not saying I'd dip and run off but the raising of children woulsnt be my responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:14 PM
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This is for cases where men 100% believe the child is theres and would never think of there partner cheating. It's not for those would suspect anything It is a massive problem for men that it effects, we spend are life living a lie, raising a child which costs what ? 100k and spending our lives with a partner that has cheated and possibly still does. I dont believe men would kill the women and child for this..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:10 PM
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How does anything benefit society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:07 PM
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In the uk this would cost 20p per person per year..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:06 PM
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This is for people who dont suspect cheating and believe the child is 100% therss when in fact it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:05 PM
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If the man decided to take on another persons child that's fine they can do as they wish. Sleeping around and getting another guy to unwillingly raise the child is wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:04 PM
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Majority of links on google search gave me them figures. It involves the child aswell as the man/father aswell. And everything could be classed as a individual problem untill the goverment decides to get involved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:03 PM
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Maybe it will encourage people to stop having random hookups with random people then, which I see as a good thing. If she knows the father they can be traced and made to pay I do kinda agree I cant see the goverment enforcing it but I believe all men have the right to know if they are the father. And all children have the right to know who there father is. This comes with the health benefits of knowing too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:00 PM
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On a tax system it would work out at 20p per year per person. The issue would be I think alot of men would say no to please there partners unless it was confidential
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:56 PM
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You cant afford 20p a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:54 PM
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If a women has told a man the kids are his and they are not, that is fraud This is about the men that are unaware the child are not theres. Therefore 100% of these cases fraud is being committed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:54 PM
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I would 100% leave my cheating partner in that situation. The children arent mine, I would not be nasty or take anything out on them, I would probably still keep in some kind of contact when they were older but I would see them as a friend not a son/daughter I shouldn't have to pay for someone elses children and I definitely would not want to stay with my partner if shes been cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:51 PM
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If the women knows who the actual father is I'd support them tracking down the true father. But even if they do not, why some some other guy be the sucker to pay for a kid that isnt his ? The only issue with it not being a mandated or opt out system is majority of women are going to become extremely defensive for requesting a dna test. It's to give every man the right of knowing his kid is actually his
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:47 PM
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I agree, knowing potential hereditary health conditions is going to be extremely important. By not knowing the true family tree you leave that newly born person unaware of there own health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:44 PM
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:( maybe one day
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:41 PM
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The women would likely know the actual father.. not always but theres a good chance. Therefore they could get this person to test and when postive and proof it's there child they could pay for it. In an ideal world it would reduce cheating but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:37 PM
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Because when a man approaches a women and asked for a dna test, majority of time she is going to become defensive and create an arguement. There point is valid and I understand if you have been faithful someone asking you to effectively prove it isnt nice. But this would stop men unknowing paying and raising another person's child. We dont ever know of the child ours without a test. If a women wanted to opt out I would feel like she has something to hide. But if it's an automatically opted in sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:35 PM
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Then it can be an opt out system at the birth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:31 PM
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I'd be perfectly happy with an opt out system so you dont have to pay either, If your partner wants to opt out it's a clear sign they have something to hide personally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:30 PM
1

Raising a child is expensive, costing around £100k It's time and resources sent on a child that isnt yours. In the uk a case was classed as fraud for such events
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:29 PM
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If I have a child I will. But this will create alot of issues and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:27 PM
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32% of parental dna tests currently come back as negative (your not the father) Most tests are likely to be done when cheating or uncertainty is involved though giving the results a higher negative result
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:25 PM
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It's not just about divorce. Come couples will spend there whole life together raising a child that isnt really the mans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:22 PM
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Committing fraud by lying who the father if your child is and claiming benefit support and child support is probably the government's problem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:21 PM
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It's for couples that 100% trust each other and would never suspect the women to cheat. In result they are unknowing raising another mans child and have a cheating partner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:19 PM
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Maybe mandated was the incorrect word.. an opt out system would be fine and it my partner wanted to opt out that would ring alarm bells for me anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:18 PM
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I think it's harder in the uk ..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:16 PM
1

The government know everything about me anyway, but it could always me mandated that he dna is destroyed after testing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:14 PM
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It's for situations where no suspicion is involved, a happy loving couple who wouldnt dream that there partner would do something so terrible. The cost is around 20p per year in tax
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:13 PM
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That's your choice, if it had a opt out system you could pick that if you so wish. This is for couples like yourself that have confidence and trust in there partner. I personally wouldnt like to live a lie and pretend my partner hasnt been sleeping with other guys either once or throughout the whole relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:10 PM
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I personally wouldnt date someone who already had a child .. atleast seriously or long term. They might pay but you still have to give you time, and money to the child as it will be "unfair" .. and the amount of child you are likely to have with that partner drops
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:06 PM
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Results are unlikely to be instant, and there wont be any "fighting" aslong as the women was faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:03 PM
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Am I allowed to post links in here? I just googled it and tried a few different sites to find an average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:02 PM
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Maybe that's because people dont really the actual numbers of men in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:00 PM
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Maybe that's true..I'm not accusing you or any women of doing anything, the problem with asking for these tests is that's the way it comes across. Maybe that's true but it it was required for birth certificates or something it would add pressure. The women always knows shes the parent, unfortunately a guy never really knows without a test
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:58 PM
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It's not about doubt it's for people that believe there partner is faithful and never would suspect them of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:55 PM
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😂 it might make a few arseholes think twice before sleeping around too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:54 PM
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The benefit is 3%-10% of men dont unknowing pay to raise child that isnt theres.. this could actually be classed as fraud. It would men fathers that refuse to pay for there children wouldnt have the it's not mine excuse It hereditary health conditions are involved we would be able to identify and prepare for these.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:52 PM
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It can happen to anyone. It's also the childs problem if a hereditary health condition could be passed on from the biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:48 PM
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Me unknowing spending my time and money on a child that isnt mine and a wife or girlfriend that is unfaithful is a major issue. It's not just a relationship issue its financial fraud and in some cases if theres a hereditary health condition involved it could effect someones life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:46 PM
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The post is for couples who do not suspect cheating therefore would not ask for a test to prove the child is the mans. Cheating happens alot in unsuspecting or unaware couples and they never find out or have any suspicion of it. This would simply stop an unsuspecting man raising and paying for another mans child because he believes his partner would never cheat on him. I'm also for men being told to take the test to pay for children they try and palm off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:40 PM
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Its absolutely crazy. Its fraud and financial robbery
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:30 PM
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Check the uk law.. we are automatically signed up to organ donor register
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:29 PM
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Even at 1% in the uk last year there was 650k child born. So atleast 6,500 men are effected by this every year .. if the higher number was true 65,000 would be. Unless everyone was tested we would never really know the answer though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:28 PM
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This is men that have no suspicion that there partner has cheated and believe that they are in a faithful relationship. Those people wont ask for a test because they believe they dont need it. Unfortunately 3%-10% of them are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:26 PM
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The database thing is alittle odd but I wouldnt really mind, i believe people should look after the children they have and not try to make someone else do it I pretty much agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:23 PM
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The test would cost about 20p per year for through tax It's a pretty harmless test in all honesty people have alot worse for no reason. Your free to opt out and have your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:20 PM
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A bill could be introduced to make it law all dna is destroyed after testing and results to stop anyone keeping it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:18 PM
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If your partner opted out of the paternity tests would you trust her? But it screams massive red flag to me It would become the normal and the social pressure of opting out would push people into taking the test. The dna test isnt going to bring any harm to the child or people involved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:17 PM
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Apply an op out system then, but it's going to raise suspicion if a women wants to op out The tests are 99.9% correct, if you suspect a incorrect result simply retest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:14 PM
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It's for the rare occasion you dont suspect or worry about your partner cheating. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:10 PM
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It's for men that dont suspect there partner of cheating. This effects 3%-10% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:08 PM
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Cant you have an opt out system so it isnt mandatory? So it just becomes a normal procedure after giving birth. If the women ops out it's a pretty clear sign shes probably been unfaithful, but it will stop the arguments and drama between the couple as we can just blame the "government policy" I totally agree if you've been faith its going to suck having this asked which is why the system should change for it to become a normal procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:07 PM
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The point is it's for people that do not suspect there partner if cheating. Also it prevented the arguments and stress of asking for a test after the birth. It wont be a fun conversation with your partner, but if it because the normal thing it wouldnt be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:04 PM
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650k children were born in the uk last year So between 15k and 65k men are raising children unknowing not theres each year That's quite alot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:02 PM
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Because it could happen to you .. And it would cost about 20p in tax per year maybe less
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:00 PM
1

Because the goverment would rather bring in cheap labour from countrys that are incredibly grateful to live in a safer place with more opportunities. People born here take it for granted, the standard of living is higher and we demand it to be higher. People coming from poor countrys would be happy to take half of what we get. This will give opportunities for large corporations to maximize profit buy paying us less, and the government can lower the social care and benefits to its population. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:58 PM
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Happy to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:51 PM
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Its only your problem if you fuck about behind your partners back and try and get them to pay the bill afterwards
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:50 PM
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The problem with paying it yourself is your have to tell you partner about the test, which will result in them saying you dont trust them and ask why your accusing them of cheating ect.. You wouldnt even notice this mind of charge in your tax bill.. In the uk it would probaly be around 20p per year tax increase
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:49 PM
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Google, different sites give different a results which is why I stated 3 to 10% Even if the number was 1% that still an awful lot if you think about the number of babies born every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:45 PM
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It's not really that expensive. In fact its alot cheaper then raising a child that is potentially not yours if your 1 of the unlucky men out there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:40 PM
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This isnt about accusing you of cheating. Its based on the men that dont think there partner is/has cheated therefore have no suspicion and end up unknowing raising another peoples child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:39 PM
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We can make change if we fight hard enough we just need to do it in the correct way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:36 PM
1

Sure, but the owner of the strongest sperm should pay to raise the child.. not the guy that thought he was in a faithful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:35 PM
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This is for men unaware and that have no doubt in there partner. 3-10 are raising children unknowing that means they had no reason to think there partner was cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:34 PM
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This is for people without any reason to believe cheating has occurred. You could be in the most amazing loving relationship and think your partner is faithful. It doesnt stop her cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:32 PM
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It's not pointless to the countless men that are unknowing spending there money and time on a child that isnt theres and a cheating unfaithful partner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:30 PM
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The tests arent that expensive, around £50-£100. In mass supply the price could drop due to higher sales. Either do it through taxes or if you live in a country that pays for healthcare add it to the bill. It wont be anywhere near as expensive as paying 18 years of child fees for a kid that isnt yours .. last time I checked that costs around £100,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:29 PM
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This is why it should be mandated and because a normal part of having a child. The only women that will have anything to worry about are the unfaithful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:26 PM
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This isnt about accusing the partner of cheating, and the vast majority will obviously come back you are the father. This is to stop the 3-10% of fathers that are completely unaware that there partner has cheated and end up raising another mans child. The reason I think it should be mandated is to stop the "your accusing me of cheated arguement and drama" that would be caused by asking for a test
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:22 PM
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Part of the mandate could be nothing is kept on record after results are given to the parents. In all honesty I think the government know basically everything about you anyway, having DNA on record wont make much difference. In my country people are automatically put on organ donor lists now, we dont own our bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:18 PM
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True and I understand this point, but the mandate could easily say once test results are completed all dna evidence is destroyed and not kept on a database system
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:16 PM
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The issue with doing the test yourselves is many women are going to attack the partner for "accusing" them of cheating by asking for a test. Im not sure what the percentage is but I cant imagine many will be happy, even if they havent done anything. I think for the arguments it would save, its alot easier to just mandate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:15 PM
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Yea I know the rate is higher because it's likely to be from couples who have a reason to test. Such as catching a partner cheating or the women admitting she has slept with multiple people The actual figure is supposed to be 3%-10% which is still very high in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:11 PM
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I think the idea of a huge amount of men unable to have sex or relationships is going to be a huge problem. The birth rate is unlikely to change as the other "20%" will likely impregnate the women instead and simply not stick around, why would they when they have so many options. Social media is massively inflating the egos of majority of normal and average women to the stage where they would not look at the normal male equivalent. Everyone knows this is an issue and that's why theres been a pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:01 PM
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I dont know anyone who is intimidated because a women earns more then them, or as a "powerful" women, and if they did it more likely they dislike the qualities it takes to get into that position rather then the fact they are a women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:36 AM
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Us men dont need to find someone attractive to put our dick in them. I just wish more women would understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:47 PM
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A confident women isnt a treat, what exactly did you say ? Your leaving it abit blank we dont know what you've said or commented about Confidence isnt a threat but coming off as dominating, or aggressive, arragont, things of this nature is definitely off putting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:40 PM
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That's up to you, I just wouldn't class a bad memory as a red flag, annoying yes
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/22 05:16 PM
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I wouldn't class this as a red flag I'm regularly told I repeat questions or conversations Iv already had. I do pay attention to any conversation I have I just genuinely forget about it shortly after
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/22 10:58 PM
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I dont like lip filler
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/22 07:35 PM
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Women can normally replace men easier from my experience. Shes not going to hang around If shes in 2 minds and has 10 other guys wanting to jump on her. Last time I checked its abit harder for men to jump from relationship to relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:33 PM
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Translation.. iv hit the wall all the top tier men chasing me are now interested in younger women and I'm stuck with aload of average guys pursuing me, this isnt fair
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:34 PM
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I don't think its settling either if date someone your level it's not settling .. doesnt matter how inflated your ego is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:54 PM
1

What kind of vulnerability or weakness do you mean ? Can I have some examples because I dont understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 12:24 PM
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Depends, I personally dont really want to get married to anyone .. I dont see the benefit of it.. In fact I see it as a risky gamble were I could get fucked over for no benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 12:19 PM
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True, I know a 50 year old who still sleeps around and rejects perfectly reasonable guys. Shes definitely below average in the SMV idea of things but because she can sleep around believes that she can do better 😂 then crys that people mess her about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:58 AM
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People at the top can both have there pick of the litter the difference being the top men are unlikely to commit to the women as often, especially as time goes on they will cheat and move onto the younger more attractive women. Sure women can do this as well. Yes women top women will date top men but I'd say most if they want true commitment they will have to date down to the above average
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:54 AM
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The poster was asking about men who are actually "below" the partner tho and how it feels if basically they are dating up. Just because some hits a lucky hole in one doesnt make them a golfer it makes them lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:45 AM
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I wouldn't say they are forced to settle, they just come to realise they arent the top 10% of women It's more realising your place rather then settling, settling is knowing you could do better, these women cant do better because there isnt the men to match
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:27 PM
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The top bunch of men have there pick of the women, they have no reason to settle even for an above average women, they will always cheat because they have the options. People need to start dating within there limits, just because you can get laid with someone doesnt mean they are you level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:24 PM
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Only like 10%-15% of men are 6ft or above and once It hits 6,2ft it drops to like 3% I'm not red piller but let's face it women arent "settling" if they are dating someone under that height, the average height is 5,9ft Majority of women are average just as men are average, they arent settling there dating within the limit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:13 PM
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