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lol. "Body shaming". If I'd have done this it would be a pervert/sexual assault case.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/02/18 06:56 AM
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Yeah, but big girls always figure out that isn't real. Every woman can get some version of that, but they want it to be nice and to stick around and to actually have a connection with them and Etc.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/08/17 08:23 PM
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All it means is "primarily I don't pay attention to men except when they make me uncomfortable, so my general impression is that men are "allowed" to be loud and gross."
/r/PussyPassDenied25/06/17 06:20 AM
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"Being loud and gross: like dudes are allowed to be all the time." It shouldn't even be a question of "being allowed". Once it's framed that way, the presumption is that there was a transgression that one was "allowed" to get away with. Rather being loud and "gross" (i.e. trying to be funny) is a positive good that nowadays women and quiet unfunny men are allowed to restrict. We are not, in fact, allowed to do this in most areas of our lives. At work there's HR. At school there are various forms…
/r/PussyPassDenied24/06/17 09:56 PM
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I don't have a problem with any of this. It was professional and he did more or less what he should do as an attorney.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/05/17 01:17 PM
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The man sounds like a fucking bore. I'd hide the full extent of my wealth, but if the "real you" won't even go out and have a proper time like even poor idiots will do from time to time, I wouldn't want to be with you either.
/r/MGTOW04/05/17 03:47 AM
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You haven't met a lot of intelligent people have you? The two things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/03/17 03:11 PM
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You're an autist, by which I mean you're pedantic and you don't understand the rhetorical purpose of framing things this way. Most books like this don't pretend that obesity, eg, is not an impediment and will recommend fitness. The point of such things is that many average or improvable men have terrible or even false self-image and it's better to start a course of instruction with them by telling them that looks don't matter. You can work on them later. Plus if they are in fact ugly, what good …
/r/seduction24/02/17 11:41 PM
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GG
/r/seduction12/09/16 02:40 AM
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Updates?
/r/seduction12/09/16 12:58 AM
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Play it off cool. You were just talking. They don't know your intentions and you don't ultimately know theirs. They're more likely to step-up and compete with each other over you in different ways than to stop talking to you. It might only go that way if you were chatting up a whole group of preexisting friends but not unaffiliated women. You'll be fine, and this is probably good for you. Make sure not to pay anyone extra special attention for no reason. You didn't invite them on a date. You inv…
/r/seduction10/09/16 10:52 PM
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If you have a strong attraction situation going and it's obvious, do it. Just doing it without establishing that can work but that's a good way to be that douchebag who propositions everyone 3 minutes from meeting them. Anything like that has to be gestured at, not said directly without establishing attraction.
/r/seduction26/08/16 03:52 PM
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Genetic anxiety isn't a real thing. Evolutionary causes are not the same as motives- they work "behind the back", so to speak. If you want to know motives, men "lie" about it for three reasons: When you ask me this question I'm thinking of every case of bad obtrusive make-up I ever saw in middle school. Most men don't even think about unobtrusive makeup as makeup. I'm thinking about moments of intimacy, not courtship because most of us cannot distinguish when and why our preferences apply. I kno…
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/16 02:50 AM
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Did I stumble into Buzzfeed in 2014? What else can those princess bitches possibly get wrong!? Are we honestly the generation that looked at cartoons with flying carpets and talking lions and thought to ourselves, "You know what, let me set my expectations right now."? Is our fantasy life so degraded and our joy in lived experience so paltry that fantasy cannot be had as ambition and ecstasy but only as cold demand while life cannot be had at all?
/r/seduction12/07/16 01:17 AM
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If it doesn't happen, then you vastly missread things, and that no is the least of your worries. At least it will let you know that you won't have to bother with the awkward time at the door. I'd probably pull up at her apartment or wherever and not even bother to get out if she turned me down for this ( unless it was some kind of game she was playing with me ).
/r/seduction28/05/16 04:51 AM
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I think he's trying (badly) to talk about like, sophomoric sub-catcalling "let me get a piece of that" style behavior not just any talk between men about a girl. After all, how would you ever meet a girl out with friends if no talk at all is acceptable? But the whole rule could have been shortened to 'Don't act like a pubescent walking penis with your friends around her. You're a grown ass man.' and not sounded so stupidly condescending. I don't want to hear about "my integrity" from dude-bro he…
/r/seduction25/05/16 05:11 AM
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'Don't look at her all the time, but make strong eye contact.' Sounds like a surefire sign our writer "isn't a man of integrity". I hope he takes himself and his pouty-facebook-selfie basic girlfriend off this sub. Exit's to the left (the same side as your left hand). Next time you want to make a shill user account to market your business, try a little harder to cover it up. I wouldn't be surprised if you bought or sock-puppeted your upvotes.
/r/seduction25/05/16 05:03 AM
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Ugh, the lot of you.
/r/MGTOW22/05/16 01:36 AM
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They are a joke: the delusions of male sexual failure. You want to be Chad thundercock? Go work out a whole bunch. The girls generally don't stay with him either but he doesn't have to do a lot of work talking, and I suspect that anyone who enjoys this doesn't either. He's the male equivalent of a hot dumb girl.
/r/MGTOW22/05/16 01:32 AM
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I'll take the downvote as a begrudged "Yes."
/r/MGTOW21/05/16 07:27 AM
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I'm not really getting this. What's the joke? Am I the only guy who doesn't have arms the size of his head and gets laid regularly?
/r/MGTOW21/05/16 06:40 AM
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Gosh, golly, I know I fuck my wife based on a rigorous third-party evaluation of her performance metrics. These silly girls and their desire to not be bored to tears for 30 to 60 years.
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 08:11 PM
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Men cheat with available options with some frequency...
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 08:09 PM
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Yeah, that's a big issue. You're cutting yourself off. The only place you're going to regularly find commitment-minded very young women is church, and believe me, you don't want to find yourself married at 26 and looking for an affair at 28 because you rushed to be tied down to someone. Also, be open to the hook ups. Be open to whatever, and sometimes it'll turn into something. They put that in shows all the time: young girl hooks up with guy and it just sort of awkwardly at first keeps going. A…
/r/seduction14/01/16 02:07 PM
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I stopped because it was obvious that I was using it to self-medicate and just coast through a bad time in my life. I know that not everyone is like that, but I do seem to have plenty of friends who smoke for the same sorts of reasons and just never stopped. It's one thing if it's a year, but it's quite another when you're pushing 30 or 35 and still haven't done anything.
/r/seduction14/01/16 01:55 PM
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I've known quite a few women lawyers and academics (not insane academics) that would think this absurd beyond all sense.
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 09:41 AM
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How'd he get the Benze with no work? The girl really got it for him? Is he fit or just really happy?
/r/seduction26/12/15 03:53 AM
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http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/3/34/Wut......jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131121222224 MFW you can't understand analogical thinking. You mean my analogy isn't an identity!? Oh man, ur so smart. The point is that in both cases getting what you want is not a source of satisfaction. If you don't understand why that is, it's because you lake experience with money, women, or both. You think if you have a loyal supermodel and a million dollars you're just automatically right with y…
/r/seduction26/12/15 03:31 AM
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Pussy and money are like food and drink: lacking them altogether leads to great dissatisfaction in a man, but their attainment is not a final satisfaction and may lead to different kinds of unhappiness.
/r/seduction25/12/15 05:58 AM
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I think what would be fair to say is that you might hate yourself if you're trapped in not doing anything. Obviously pleasing others and making money is not the ultimate way out, but if you don't even have anything you can do even if just for yourself then life is a prison.
/r/seduction25/12/15 05:43 AM
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Wut? Are there really people who think money is the secret to happiness?
/r/seduction25/12/15 05:36 AM
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Thank God most men are wealthy and famous, otherwise you'd never see any couples.
/r/MGTOW20/12/15 03:30 AM
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Yes it is. It's a very provincial positivisic nihilism.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 02:14 PM
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Eh, keep in mind that RP is packaged in a way that you don't have to be totally dedicated to it. I was mainly interested in its self-help stuff, which you can find in many other books. I never really bought into the whole pseudo-evolutionary psychology and misogynist aspects because my education was too broad to fall for the former, and I took the latter to be more rhetorical than I probably should have at the time. He's probably just minimizing. I did the same until very recently, and it's real…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/15 01:34 PM
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Did anyone ever consider BDSM? I started from a BDSM background and I hardly needed most of the help TRP had to offer. It's far more constructive and can be generalized in attitude, plus it's a set of explicit boundaries and shared ideas not mere operant conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:28 PM
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She doesn't fill my head with nonsense. She mainly has little to say on anything of importance. Again, why marry on your view?
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 12:50 PM
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Then why marry?
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 12:50 PM
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Eh, sort of. But I didn't really have to go to all the, what I viewed as, extreme measures of RP. I did some dread stuff, I guess, but I couldn't imagine being in a position where I'd never threaten the relationship if I wasn't being heard, and I assumed that those aspects of the books were for men far more desperate and pathetic than I've ever been. I mainly did a lot of the "inner game" stuff, some adjustment of attitudes and expectations (I stopped expecting women to have the same expectation…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 12:16 PM
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Do I fall in love? Yes, but not under what I'm understanding as RP terms. I had hoped that at lest the married RP didn't turn out to be what it sometimes looked like. Now I understand, particularly after this conversation here and a few others, the RP as a combination of self-help and really boring routinized BDSM activity. I really liked the self-help stuff I got out of it, but I mostly got inner-attitude help from it. I didn't need a lot of help getting women and only modest help preventing wo…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 11:50 AM
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I took it to be the stimulation of her sexual drives, as it explicitly is in BDSM, and putting yourself in a position that's generally more comfortable for most couples sexually/psychologically than the reverse is. I never took it to be training for total boring useless submission. Women are not dragons. If one wants a kitten, just start with a shy women who doesn't do anything on her own already. You'll be bored in 2 months, but it's easier than boring yourself slowly.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 10:00 AM
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I never took the books literally on this matter because I was already a dominant before I started the process. I thought it a bit of empty bravado- a game like BDSM was. I've never needed to "break" a woman to get submission; they're either willing to defer to me because of a difference in strength of personality and/or because of a personal desire to be submissive at least sexually or it doesn't work and I move on. I needed a bit more self-mastery, so I was congenial to the stance of the books,…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 09:51 AM
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So, then, there is no point to a LTR apart from children, which, as I pointed out, I don't need a resource partner for because I'm not a pov? Thank you. That's simpler. The material is not the eternal. Materially, there is no eternal except, perhaps bare existence. Another 50 years to 90 million years of human breeding (of which my own line might not even make it 100 years) is clearly not eternal. By the by, when you have mastery over someone, you are not "pooling" resources. You have your resou…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 09:41 AM
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Clearly not what I meant (unless you think that literally all input is "nagging", which it may be), and that's not what I asked. Why marry? I can afford to hire domestic help (and prostitutes, for that matter), if that's the only point.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 08:26 AM
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Then why are you married? I don't particularly care about her or any woman's crap, so if that's all I might get out of it, why would I?
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 08:11 AM
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Of course, my own good judgement is important, but what's the point of having her there? I could adopt and have that sort of singular mastery. I've no need of an adult-child hanging around looking for my total guidance until her death. Your advice suggests self-improvement utill the point of divorce to me, and fine, but don't beat around the bush about it.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 07:43 AM
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Well, I think about it like this. I don't necessarily, for instance, totally understand how to raise a child. I recognize that if it were me alone raising a child I would probably push them to extremes that aren't appropriate for children. I would probably push them way ahead of their developmental abilities, and it would be nice to have somebody around that's going to check me on this, to tell me that I'm going too far with the children. I don't think that my wife has it in her, as I see it rig…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 06:42 AM
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No, I do recognize that as an extreme of my problem. Is "trouble" something I'm tempted to? Yes, but that's not what I'm strictly looking for. Here's the way I could put it more distinctly: Somebody previously talked about a wife being a good first mate on a ship. A good first mate will question the captain, but they will never undermine the captain's leadership. There are two ways to fail at this. The most obvious way is to undermine the captain's leadership, which is straightforwardly what hap…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 06:36 AM
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Well, I wouldn't mind being "manipulated" into commitment (i.e. into feeling something). I'm not particularly fond of having commitment as a mere moral duty only.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 03:14 AM
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She knows about some of it. And she knows that I've been working on myself, what books I read excetera.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 02:20 AM
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I mean equivalent in the sense that it works with their biological imperative. My personal sense is that I'm with a woman who is helpful and reliable materially, but not challenging psychologically. It can't be the case that the end goal of married red pill is to find a woman who literally is no challenge to you and takes care of things at home. As it stands right now, sometimes I wish it was more like 3 years ago when we were fighting more regularly, since at least I'd be able to get something …
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 02:19 AM
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Okay, thank you. I'll look into that.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 01:46 AM
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I thought that was for women who like red pill guys not an equivalent program for women.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/12/15 01:35 AM
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You can let a woman break a hard boundary, but it would always have to be out of a place of ultimate indifference or disappointment, not desperation. One might, for instance, say to oneself, "Well, now she's only merely useful to me, having lost my respect." You would treat it as you would treat family that has slighted you, particularly a son or daughter.
/r/askTRP04/12/15 02:09 AM
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At the end of the day, whether it be a "traditionalist," "feminist," "foreign," "religious" or anyone for that matter, the above statement SCREAMS of a child-like lack of responsibility and/or accountability, especially in today's "no means no" environment. I don't have a lot of information, but, I mean, she presumably made an agreement with him. In exchange and under pressure, she agreed to sleep with him. He then broke the agreement, leaving her, obviously, devastated. In this case he seems th…
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 12:59 AM
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I took this to be some kind of traditionalist mindset- either a foreign girl or a religious girl, not some mere tactic. This is bizarre coming out of a feminist's mouth. In those contexts both today and in the past sex with your future spouse while not strictly right was also nodded at and ignored under the assumption that the future husband acted in good faith. After all, weddings take time to arrange, etc. Her anger is entirely understandable here. Should he be prosecuted? No, but even breech …
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 03:32 PM
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Ok. I think that makes some sense. Its just weird for me to do it on text.
/r/seduction26/11/15 10:07 PM
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Yeah, I know I need to keep it light. Without anything to talk about in the damn texts at first, the temptation is to always go heavy or say little at all, neither of which work. I could sext, I guess. I've never really been any good at it, but I've also never tried, and it certainly seems more natural than going out of my way to be funny. I've never done it early in a relationship with a woman. Is there a way to go about it early on that doesn't make you into a creep?
/r/seduction26/11/15 09:54 PM
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Breach of promise is a virtually obsolete legal suite in the West. That said, with as much sympathy as I have for some aspects of MGTOW, if you've actually found a woman in the West who legitimately wants marriage to have sex you should either be serious about it or move on. She's been upfront, and if you go forward then back out you're the shithead. It's a very shitty thing to do, and the woman in question is far more respectable in her sexual politics than the average tease-n-lie kind of girl.
/r/MGTOW26/11/15 11:30 AM
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Thanks. I'm naturally much more magnetic with and attracted to introverted women, and this is a helpful reminder as I'm trying to grow myself. All the advice about displaying leadership and etc has worked perfectly well with introverted women, but most advice is geared towards approaching extroverted women (I really just don't vibe with the kind of girl being aimed at, even when I do get close to them), and that stuff scares the shit out of introverted women, who think you're way too over the to…
/r/seduction10/11/15 03:13 PM
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Well, I don't mean to be so harsh with that "learn how to be with me" language. I know I have my own work to do also. I just have a very bitter memory where I put a lot in to being and learning with someone for a very long time and she mainly just sat there and enjoyed it. When things got difficult and I needed more from her it became monstrously clear that she hadn't really learned a lot about me while we together- none of my interests or preferences nor anything that I might need emotionally. …
/r/seduction12/11/14 10:34 PM
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I'm not exactly looking for a "perfect girl", but surely, if I'm looking for something that will last, I shouldn't be fishing around with people very different from me. I've done this thing where I stay with a woman with whom I have very little in common just because of mere feelings (being "head over heels") or positive life consequences (stability & money), and it always ends with me slowly hating the person and feeling alone because of how far off they are from me. I mean, think about it this…
/r/seduction12/11/14 06:52 PM
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I sort of skipped the whole thing by taking an alternate entrepreneurial rout. It seems a lot of young people have done that, e.g. "I make artisan mustards that come in fancy jars with pictures of bearded men on the sides."
/r/seduction10/11/14 07:56 AM
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Yes. I know that much of what I'm saying in this thread is self-centered and arrogant. I said so. What difference does it make? I am presently on reddit working through my personal frustration, not on trying to get to or the other person because that's not what's bothering me right now. If I was tearful and crying about some problen here, it wouldn't imply that I spend all my time crying during a relationship. I'm presently, right now, concerned with a problem meeting my psychological desire for…
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:15 PM
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Oh, I am "arrogant", as if no woman in the world ever liked that. But, thank you, I know how to behave: this is my personal space to work through my own mind as I want to work through it in whatsoever mood I'm in, "for myself". Do you actually think I told her how to dress for me? No, hardly. How boring and slavish such a woman would be, if I was required to do that. She figured it out and did it on her own. That was what was sexy- that she worked to figure me out because she wanted to please me…
/r/seduction08/11/14 10:21 AM
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No, that's not what I mean. It's just that you're often (not always) going to find that conversation is very one-sided. If you want anything back from her that's interesting (apart from sexual contact, which I often use to fill the silence) you have to get her doing something that isn't talking. That is, unless you want a girl that listens. But you have to ask yourself whether you have that much talk in you. I'm saying this because I wasted a lot of time on a shy girl who ultimately just left me…
/r/seduction07/11/14 08:00 AM
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Long experience tells me that if you don't want a "listener" be careful filling your dating pool with shy women. I mean, if you're looking long term. Sometimes they open up and blossom, but lots of times shy just means they hate to talk. You might get more enjoyment out of them if you take them on activity dates. It doesn't have to be mini golf or anything, a long walk in nature will do, but if they don't talk at least you can have the moving around, which is at least something.
/r/seduction07/11/14 07:15 AM
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Are you sure you want to do this? After all, you're the one that called them boring.
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:30 AM
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Escalation is actually quite easy with shy girls. Just start casually touching them. And see where her resistances are. Sometimes it's stupid easy because you can basically walk around with very little conversation and get her to bed. She's flattered by the attention alone because she's not used to it because her shyness closes people off.
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:38 AM
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Well, don't get me wrong, she has to have a sort of basic sexual attractiveness- I don't date obese women even if they really seem to get me because it just won't work -and I want her to be confident, which is often a psychological prerequisite for genuine attractiveness, but I don't need her to be a physical 10. Take the girl I mentioned, the one who who was the closest to what I actually want. Just in terms of straight physical attractiveness she was maybe a 6 out of 10? I had definitely been …
/r/seduction07/11/14 12:10 AM
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Hell, I'll take an average girl with spark and intellect. Half of the most beautiful women won't be so much by the time they're 40, and we all die ugly, but a woman of personal quality will outlast her physical appeal.
/r/seduction06/11/14 08:14 PM
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It's all pseudo-scientific crap anyway. The point of these names is to organize some traits together and to exclude others in order to facilitate instruction. There are no true "alpha" males, otherwise self-help using that nomenclature as a guide wouldn't be possible.
/r/seduction06/11/14 08:04 PM
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Well, in the case of the school teacher, that's not possible. But you might be right about other cases. What's a reasonable amount of time to wait on people to open up? I usually expect that someone I want to be comfortable enough with me to be personal after a month, particularly if we're sleeping together. If there seems to be no there there at that point, whether it's shyness or what, I kind of want to cut bait. And I mean, I get your point about patience, and I've done that too, but some of …
/r/seduction06/11/14 07:21 PM
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I'm on reddit and having to give a quick sketch of a frustrating problem. There's a certain amount of inadequacy and glibness that doing that conveys. It's not as stupid as 'I asked her about Hamlet. She didn't get it.' That's just a quick stand-in illustration to try and evoke the actual difficulty. We didn't have that precise conversation as I gave it but numerous ones on seemingly mutual interests where it turned out that despite what she told me she was doing, there was simply no there there…
/r/seduction06/11/14 05:07 PM
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