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Generaljacare_o/r/MensRights21/01/25 04:45 PM
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Birth rates were higher when women had less ‘rights’ (special privileges actually, such as no conscription, no taxpayer funded protection and provision, no same salary for less physical demands in physical jobs such as military, police and fire etc). If these special privileges were removed, and women had to make a family with a man for quality of life, just like before, birth rates will go up. For example, Germany is trying to become stronger militarily, and is looking towards conscription. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:07 AM
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Your girlfriend is not a random woman. You know her to be a good person.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 11:32 PM
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We can protect and provide for the women that we know to be good people, instead of random women who are more likely to be haters.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 11:28 PM
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Compassion has to go both ways. Men to women and women to men. When one doesn't happen, it's time for the other side to pull back.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 03:54 PM
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Then at least let it be true. They are going to blame us anyway.
/r/MensRights23/02/26 02:56 PM
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Lol, "Did you ask the bear to help you showel?".
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:48 PM
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Great. You and your kids can showel my car out. I'll be inside. Knock on my door when you're done. But someone else is going to take advantage of you and your kids before I do. It's up to you to stand up for yourself and stop this from happening to yourself and your kids.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:43 PM
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You can still ask them, while you are helping them.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:26 PM
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Asking for recognition is not hating.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:24 PM
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Good does not mean selfless. We should only help if we get help back. Otherwise, we will just be used, just like the tens of thousands of men sent to die in Ukraine.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:19 PM
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Yes. When I was in college two girls walked through the male locker room while guys were changing. They were with the janitor who was taking them somewhere, I think. They were all eyes, looking around and smiling like in a candy store. Some guys were embarrassed, but some guys were kind of showing off. I was thinking of making a complaint, but schoolwork interfered, and I forgot about it.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 01:56 PM
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Yes. Men should drop out of society. Then we'll see who really keeps the infrastructure running. But instead of just rotting, they should go off the grid and build up their own self-sufficient homesteads. Then, while the cities become crime infested garbage dumps without the male workers and tax revenue, they can have their own little pieces of country paradise with running hot water and heat. And the women will be welcome to stay, as long as they keep the house clean, cook, bear children, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:50 PM
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But good enough for military conscription, be expected to work harder (higher physical requirements) for the same salary (military, police, fire), and be pushed in to risky jobs with higher workplace deaths, I bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:07 AM
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What poverty, when there is welfare? Please keep paying taxes for I can pay for the things I don't grow or fix myself. And there is no reason to impress someone who doesn't know I exist and not interested in me. I'll take it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:08 PM
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Cutting off a parasite from my body would be more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:42 PM
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Not as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:39 PM
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Agree. The solution from the male side is to withhold contributing to society until the return is worth the investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:16 PM
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They can supply their safety themselves. What does that have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:16 PM
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I don't know what you mean 'allowed to not pay our taxes'. The government is going to have a tax code regardless. We're all going to vote and use other methods to not pay taxes to the extent it bothers us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:29 PM
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Women use most of the tax benefits, and there are tax funded women only programs, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:46 AM
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Nope. You have an entitlement mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:43 AM
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Protection and provision of a random woman by a random man is also not a right. A woman is not entitled to a random man's labor. For example, if a man sees a woman being assaulted, he is not required to put himself at risk to save her. It is unfair to have random men be conscripted to the military to protect random women whom that man is not receiving any love and sex from. It is unfair to have the government confiscate money from a man's paycheck (taxes) to give police protection and welfare to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:23 AM
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Men in your country have to organize and fight for your rights.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 08:13 PM
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It's because they don't need men for survival anymore. They actually do, but the husband duties have been outsourced into jobs, so they can get those needs met without doing wife duties. For example, protection is done by police, instead of the husband. Same with farming, mechanics, etc. When they needed a man, they convinced themselves that the man is attractive. But now all of them keep looking for the one in a million man for longer.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 02:05 AM
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Men will be respected again.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 04:55 PM
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Why men are not cared about is that men are just forced or expected to contribute to society. For example, men hold up all the infrastructure in the civilized world and are conscripted into armies, and this is their 'duty' or they should be 'glad to have a job'. One of the best things men can do for other men is to make sure that society don't take them for granted. That makes the value of men go up. Until you are appreciated, don't pay taxes, don't work in a critical field, don't help in genera…
/r/MensRights29/06/25 02:41 PM
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Yes. At least conscript the non-pregnant women.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 01:58 PM
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If he was in one of the 50-50 custody states, he would have been OK even if she left.
/r/MensRights25/06/25 01:16 AM
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It is up to the parent of the man to do an eye for an eye justice, when possible.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 09:22 PM
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It can be a good start point for your research though.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:41 AM
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I agree it's less, though. Must have something to do with love being an emotion. This being a men's rights sub, rights shouldn't be based on emotion. It should be quantitatively analyzed, such as the amount the government spends on men vs women etc.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:37 AM
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Common law marriage state, though. You can't cohabitate without being considered married.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:03 AM
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I've seen many
/r/MensRights24/06/25 04:54 AM
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Reduce federal taxes through doing a business rather than a w2 job and taking business tax deductions , being self-sufficient (having less taxable income, and growing your food, fixing your own cars, doing your own house maintenance ) etc, depreciation etc.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 07:25 PM
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Then sell and move to the states with the least property taxes. They will be forced to lower property taxes to get the labor back.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 07:12 PM
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We just have to spread this message to all the single men, and make them go towards completely self-sufficient homesteading in rural areas, instead of removing trash in the big cities, or contributing ANY kind of labor to the big cities. They must find a way (self-sufficient homesteader) such that the only one who receives ANY labor from them is a woman who has their kids, cleans their house, cooks their food, etc.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 07:08 PM
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That's why we must all become self-sufficient homesteaders that do not contribute to the system through taxes, but capable of contributing ONLY to a woman who loves us.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 06:59 PM
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That's his appropriate response to the woman playing games with him. He could have at least kept the booty call.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 06:53 PM
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So was her messaging other men to him. That's why he needs to do the same thing to her, message other women, and show her what it feels like. If it works, he has a partner. It it doesn't he still has a booty call. Begging her doesn't work. If he begged and it worked, he has less power in the relationship, and he has to keep doing what she wants. If it didn't work, well, like in this case, he even lost the booty call that he had. Or if you want a man that treats you as number one, treat him as nu…
/r/MensRights22/06/25 06:50 PM
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I see. But your plan doesn't work for everyone. Not enough breadwinner women to go around. So everyone who ends up working hard is not going to end up getting a money maker woman. A blood sucking vampire, as you say, is all they're going to get. And all the while they are working, they are paying taxes, throwing money in to the collective pot, that the government spends on women and not men. Is it worth working hard for that? Also, people want children. I don't know what you want to do with the …
/r/MensRights22/06/25 06:40 PM
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You went about it with the wrong way. You looked desperate. The only way to make her want to stay with you is to show/fake that you can get enough other women, so your mating market value is higher than her, so she should be glad to be able to settle down with you. This is why red pill knowledge is so important.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 04:45 PM
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WV is pretty good for homesteading/farming. Issue is how to supplement it with a regular job until you become completely self-sufficient. The I would do it is, save some money somewhere else, find a job in WV first before moving there. And there is also KY and FL. And maybe some other states that give 50-50 custody.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 04:34 PM
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OK. Teach us how. I'm willing to listen. But let's start with this. Most women want a man who makes more money than them. So most men cannot get dates, while most women keep dating the same tall, good looking, multimillionaires. What is your solution to this problem?
/r/MensRights22/06/25 03:45 PM
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Or stay in NY or CA, lose the children, and pay child support while not even being able to see them. It's a choice. And it's not spite. It's a practical decision.
/r/MensRights22/06/25 03:06 PM
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Until we vote to remove female special privileges, it will be this way. A woman doesn't have to register for Selective Service and get DEI support for education and employment. The government takes our tax money and plays their husband by giving them protection and provision. So they incorrectly believe that they are really independent and do not need a man, when they depend on men that maintain the infrastructure every day, just indirectly. This is the future direction men should go. Stop contr…
/r/MensRights22/06/25 11:59 AM
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It's biology. Look at the kinds of pr0n the women prefer. They have more violent fantasies. But somehow everything is men's fault /s.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 11:54 AM
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Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. I'm also a minority man. But I'm willing to go and exercise my second amendment rights and rights to self-defense. I follow the laws of the United States and not of the KKK. I also think there are bigger problems than the KKK, and willing to take a risk of entering armed conflict with the KKK if necessary. Someone has to. Thanks for the good wishes, and best of luck to you too.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 10:47 AM
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When there are second amendment rights in the US, and when there are others willing to make a community with you and help out, you refuse to fight, run away and expect someone else to take care of the problem for you. Good luck finding anywhere to live.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 09:48 AM
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So find other minority men there and make a community.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 07:33 AM
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If you would like to support the men who want to have families one day, go to the same states and contribute to the economy, unless there is a reason to stay away from these states.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 04:26 AM
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I was aware of lifetime alimony. That was why FL was not on my list then. Now it is. Given the new laws, what other states have better alimony laws than FL? Why do a legal marriage anyway? Only do a spiritual/religious marriage and don't get the state involved. Just make sure it's not a common law state, and FL is not.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 03:25 AM
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'...withhold children from you to get child support'. Read that again. The mother treating the child support as a paycheck, and not for the benefit of the child, is the problem.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 03:17 AM
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Have you watched the 'whatever' podcast? It's kind of mainstream. It's been 'red-pilled'. There are a bunch of guys who are aware of the men's rights issues and consuming the media that is related to it, but are just not saying it in the open.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 02:24 AM
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There are people like you, and women still say that men don't care about their children, even on father's day.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 02:05 AM
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Map says Idaho is bad. Move somewhere else.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 02:03 AM
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I agree about not getting married. But the thing about not having kids is, 1. It's the most powerful instinct of any animal, including humans, to have offspring. 2. If you don't have kids, your genetic lineage and your ideas are going to die with you.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 01:37 AM
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Considering that marriage rates are going down, I doubt it's a niche community. Members of the community just don't say it in the open. It's an issue that affects every young man.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 01:22 AM
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How did those cases develop in the future? It says false allegations are treated as a factor in custody decisions FLA STAT 61.13(3)n. Was the guy able to go to court after and get a favorable decision after it was revealed that the allegations are false?
/r/MensRights20/06/25 01:18 AM
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Voting with your feet is. Take your labor and taxes away from the places that are unfriendly to you, to the places that are good to you. The bad places will change the laws to get your labor and taxes back.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 12:55 AM
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Chatgpt/MS copilot followed by a visit to the actual source is your friend. Also, if you click on the state on each map, the good and the bad are listed.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 12:46 AM
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Yes, 50-50 does not mean no child support. It depends on the income of each party. But it is reduced for 50-50. That is why capped child support is important. To my knowledge, CA does not have a cap.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 12:39 AM
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I think it's based on where the family has established residency at the time of the divorce. But I'm not sure.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 12:25 AM
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If you click on FL on the first map, it says 'Florida statutes establish a rebuttable presumption that equal time sharing of a minor child is in the best interest of the mi or child. FLA. STAT. Chapter 61.13(2)(c)(1).' But your personal experience may have differed. Thank you for this information. If there is a bias against fathers in FL, in time it will come out. Anyone moving there should seriously look at personal experiences such as your also and then take a decision.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 12:22 AM
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Agree. In the meanwhile, we should take productivity and resources away from the anti-male states and to the pro-male states.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 11:50 PM
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Preventing accidents is very important because men have no reproductive rights ( no say in being a father if he's not ready for it ). But if there is an accident, and if she agrees to an abortion, it's easy to go across state lines.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 11:49 PM
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Sounds like a very particular personalized issue.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 11:25 PM
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Go to the best place for men and make it better by voting and contributing to the local economy.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 11:23 PM
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Speaking about personal preferences, there is good and bad in each state. But you could probably find a location in each state that you like.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 11:22 PM
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The answer is for each individual man to not protect or provide for a woman until she satisfies his desire. But it doesn't mean anything until we stop tax funded protection and provision by the government first. To do this, men must stop paying taxes.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 09:28 PM
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You won't have a problem doing everything yourself then. Noted. Gentlemen, never help a woman unless she explicitly begs for help.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 12:06 PM
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They want us to read minds and figure out if they are attracted to us before we approach them. They don't want to approach us themselves either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:00 PM
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We men must stop carrying the society on our backs, until we are appreciated.
/r/MensRights25/05/25 09:33 PM
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Until we vote to remove female special privileges, it will be this way. A woman doesn't have to register for Selective Service, and get DEI support for education and employment. The government takes our tax money and plays their husband by giving them protection and provision. So they incorrectly believe that they are really independant. This is the direction men should go. Stop contributing to society. Build up your own homestead while paying the least amount of taxes possible. Let the cities f…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 02:11 AM
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Love women unconditionally? Why would men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:17 PM
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Well, it looks like being a mechanic or farmer is not enough anymore. Every woman wants a 6' 5" CEO that makes a million a year. I assume you mean illegal immigrants? I haven't seen one do a skilled trade job. And that's being cracked down on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:02 PM
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Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:35 PM
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No. It's a "we're working too hard for people who don't appreciate us, and we get nothing from this. Let's just take it easy and stop caring.".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:19 PM
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The ratio of men who do not get to have a relationship and a family is increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:01 PM
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Right now I don't do a manual labor job, but I fix my vehicles, household and do farming in the homestead that I'm building. Yes, I was a soldier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:59 PM
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Women contribute. I just said men don't need to keep contributing, when they get nothing from society, and just going off by themselves would give them a more stress free life than staying in society. You women can contribute to and manage society by yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:46 PM
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Suburbs. Buy food from the supermarket. Get the mechanic to fix the car. Get contractors to fix your house. We just need the male farmers, mechanics, and the contractors to see that they are not going to have families, and they are just paying their enemy to just exist (taxes). They will either leave, or just stop working that hard. It's already happening, if you haven't noticed the rising cost of services. The weak men can stay and drain the resources off the city or suburbs or whatever. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:38 PM
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Great! They can stay with you in the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:06 PM
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Nah. I'm just minding my own business. So is the mechanic who leaves the city and moves to the countryside to make his homestead. Communized (city) life is not worth it when there is no family, and there is peace and quiet in the countryside. Men don't owe women anything, and women don't owe men anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:30 PM
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Wonderful!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:38 PM
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Great! You should stop objecting the men who want to stop contributing. Everyone is happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:37 PM
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50% survival rate might be enough for them. But there is no need to go that far. The women in the cities that do not reproduce will not leave any heirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:31 PM
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Nope. You're not entitled to my labor. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:29 PM
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Can you do all that manual labor and dig trenches for city defense at the same time? If you called the men angry, might as well assume they are really angry. Not just minding their own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:23 PM
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Yes. And men don't owe women the upkeep of society, like doing the hard manual labor jobs, going to war, etc. This is the direction men without relationships should go. Stop contributing to society. Build up your own homestead while paying the least amount of taxes possible. Let the cities fall. If a woman wants to escape the hell of the city, she can come to your homestead, bear and raise your children, cook your food, clean your house etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:12 PM
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Agreed. Don't get legally married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:37 PM
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Want them for sex. Not for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:25 PM
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They are insings. The female version of an incel. They are involuntarily single instead of being involuntarily celibate. For the origination of the word, refer to the Norwegian scientist, Mads Larsen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:24 PM
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The answer is for all of us to stop simping and stop our labor from going to these freeloaders through taxes and DEI programs. That'll force them to really be 'independant'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:21 PM
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In addition to not simping, there are other things we can do, like pay less taxes, boycott sexist jobs, vote for your interests, move to and invest in states that are male friendly (50-50 custody, capped child support, no lifetime alimony: KY, WV, FL). Men pay most of the taxes, and women receive most of the tax benefits. The government takes money from people and funnels it towards women in the form of DEI programs. In addition, men do not need internal security such as police to protect us, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:19 PM
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I think TRUE gender equality in terms of gender neutral conscription requirements and the same gender neutral requirements (including physical) for all jobs, would improve things on gender relations. Because then, no one is a freeloader, and everyone will have an appreciation of what is expected of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:28 PM
0

They should not legally force me to do anything at all, when I didn't consent to being a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:50 AM
0

Not giving consent to being a father is the defining factor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:49 AM
1

People have to take physical risks to make money. So yes, it is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:46 AM
9

They could do it themselves. They're just too self-centered to see it in any other viewpoint than their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:32 AM
5

My goalpost is the same. Both busting nuts and opening legs are conscious decisions. Either make both sides accountable or make neither accountable. You're saying only men should be held accountable and and women shouldn't be held accountable. This is about the fourth or fifth time I'm explaining the same concept in different words. Are you cognitively impaired?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:26 AM
8

Men shouldn't be forced to give up their life, health and time so they can make enough money to pay child support, when they are not ready to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:04 AM
6

Opening legs is a conscious decision. Take accountability for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:01 AM
1

Abortions should be criminalized in all states. Then women and men are equal in that none of us can shirk from our responsibilities. Or both abortions and financial abortions should be allowed everywhere, where men and women both can forego parenthood when they are not ready for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:58 PM
6

Women have the power to determine whether to become a mother. They can 100% prevent motherhood by not letting a man bust in them unprotected. So women should not be allowed to have abortions, using the same argument you're using to say that men should not be allowed to have financial abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:54 PM
8

The woman’s reproductive rights & her choice whether to be a morher are exercised when she opens her legs for the man to orgasm unprotected inside her. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:05 PM
9

Question is loaded because it's a false analogy. Women don't have it that bad. Men have it worse than women right now. Nevertheless, I will answer. Would not date for a long-term relationship or marriage. Would hit and quit as long as It didn't take too much of my time, just to take care of the sexual urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:20 AM
31

Women have a choice not to open their legs. Once he's done, you do not decide what to do with his wallet or life. So get your tubes tied, use contraception, or do not have piv sex. Lots of choices. See. Exact analogies can be applied to the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:11 AM
67

Men have fewer reproductive rights even without all these made-up rules. If a man is not ready to be a father, but a child is conceived, he has no choice. He has to pay child support. When the man has no choice but to take responsibility, forcing the woman to also take responsibility makes sense. If the man is forced to take responsibility, banning abortion federally, instead of letting states determine it, would be equal. If the women are allowed to abort, to make things equal, men should be ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:50 PM
7

They do this because they can be nasty to the good men and still benefit from them. Stop doing good things for radom people, especially these ungrateful women. Make sure everyone earns any benefit they get out of you. Also, find ways to pay the least amount of taxes you can (business, real estate) so the government can't just take the benefits of your labor and give it to ungrateful women.
/r/MensRights01/03/25 04:02 PM
13

If men's taxes are being used to give special treatment to women, men should stop paying taxes. Or vote in politicians who use taxes equally for everyone. Even better, send forward politicians who will lobby for special treatment for men, to counter the special treatment for men.
/r/MensRights01/03/25 03:30 PM
1

It's already working very well. I'm ignoring everything that does not directly pay me back. At least the enemy will not profit through my effort. And if I fail to reproduce, I will make sure that the maximum of my effort and wealth will ONLY benefit my nephews and nieces, my closest genetic kin. It blows my mind that you think you are entitled to my labor.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 09:23 PM
2

HOORAY! DEI is there to give unfair advantages, over imaginary obstacles, to certain races and genders. DEI does nothing to help people with actual disabilities make a dignified living. Americans with Disabilities act does that.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 01:16 AM
7

Yeah. Instead of actually helping people with disabilities make a dignified living, DEI has become a program to give unfair advantages to certain races and genders.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 01:03 AM
13

Everyone will have opportunity and inclusion when the standards are the same for everyone.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 12:45 AM
38

No. This goes against my experience. I'm not white. White men have given me positions of authority over other white men when I work harder and deliver results to the team. So, I find such blanket statements against a certain race to be false.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 10:29 PM
51

Great for anyone who wants actual equality.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 10:20 PM
3

Exactly. If the world tries to burn you, burn it down.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 08:05 PM
2

Does not have to be done openly. Tit for tat. Fight fire with fire.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 08:03 PM
14

One thing it failed to mention was, "Stop expending energy to do all the good things men do for society, and become extremely selfish and care only about yoirself, until women realize men's value"
/r/MensRights23/02/25 06:59 PM
12

What happened to the misandrist's comment?
/r/MensRights13/02/25 07:57 PM
3

What do you think medieval men would have done if they didn't have a chance to breed? Suppose there was a law enacted that said all women are to be turned in to the King's or the local serf lord. What would they have done. I heard one viewpoint that said Vikings are Norse incels who were sent on raids so they can bring back women.
/r/MensRights13/02/25 07:20 PM
2

So, there was a woman that thought even the town drunk had something of use for her? What was it? His salary? His house? Ability to do work when not drunk? Even if not necessary for survival, pairing (marriage) was convenient for people for their day to day tasks?
/r/MensRights13/02/25 06:56 PM
20

Thanks for the history lesson. I wasn't trying to be exact with the times. You know what I meant. I assume the location you are referring is somewhere in Europe. Would a woman be able to survive by herself at that time and location?
/r/MensRights13/02/25 06:41 PM
1

In nature most of the men are not trapped in a job, working and paying taxes to uphold the infrastructure so only a select few can have families.
/r/MensRights13/02/25 06:12 PM
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It's because they "don't need a man". A 100 years ago, if they didn't find a man, they would have no income. A1000 years ago, if they didn't find a man, they would be eaten by wild animals or get abducted by a rival tribes. The government has gradually stepped in and filled the need of a man in their life. And it's funded by the men's own labor and tax dollars. A 1000 years ago, a man got sex and children in return for protecting and providing for her. Now, they just receive men's protection and…
/r/MensRights13/02/25 04:38 PM
3

I think the correct term is insing. Involuntarily single instead of involuntarily celibate. It's hard for males to get sex. Females can get all the sex they want, but if they can't get the man to stay and spend resources or attention on her, then she can't get a relationship.
/r/MensRights13/02/25 03:44 PM
1

I think that would be impractical and ineffective. My solution would be to give vastly high amounts of benefits to combat and other hard jobs, but limit who can do it by holding a gender neutral fitness test. Those who don't qualify can do the easy, safe jobs but get almost no benefits/pay and must do longer terms.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 06:02 PM
3

You look forward to doing your duty because you are part of a functional society, where your individual needs of family are met (you have a wife and your biological, or who you think are your biological, children), and for you, protecting your country is equal to protecting your family. In most of the Western countries, there is no more nuclear family. We as men have nothing to protect. And still, we men, and only the men and not women, are still expected to do our duty. And yes, in the US, sele…
/r/MensRights01/02/25 05:40 PM
1

So you want them conscripted in to combat, where they might be useless and do more harm than good?
/r/MensRights01/02/25 12:42 PM
7

Actually, my fantasy is of having them do hand to hand combat in the trenches with a bayonet. I was being generous with the barefoot and pregnant thing.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 12:41 PM
2

Agree. Combat conscriptions should have shorter terms and more pay and benefits, and factory/support conscriptions should have longer terms and less pay and benefits.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 08:05 AM
3

Yeah, I'm fine with women being conscripted in to the factories. As long as they do their duty, just like the men have to.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 01:59 AM
5

Not always. Ukraine is an example. But I see many of their women using their refugee status go to prosperous countries, find new men, and pose in social media. They do post links to gofundme pages. I guess attention whoring for money counts as patriotism too.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 01:38 AM
2

I hope she sees this bro.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 01:31 AM
35

Society has failed men. Take every ounce of welfare you can, and when you get back on your feet, make sure to contribute only to the people you personally know and your local community that has made you part of it. When you build yourself back up, make sure to do it in such a way that you contribute the least amount and pay the least amount of taxes pissible (business rather than a W2 job and use real estate for tax deductions). If society has forgotten men, let the women pay the taxes and bear …
/r/MensRights01/02/25 12:04 AM
1

If your reasoning for sending only men to war is that they are stronger, and less emotional, and built for it, then women must be kept barefoot, pregnant and cooking in the kitchen, because they are built for it.
/r/MensRights31/01/25 11:49 PM
3

When assigning jobs, put them in jobs they can actually accomplish. There are many non-combat jobs like cooks, clerks, mechanics, etc. But compensate for the higher risk in combat jobs by more pay, privileges, shorter terms, etc.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:24 PM
1

Make them register for Selective Service. But when assigning jobs, put them in jobs they can actually accomplish. There are many non-combat jobs like cooks, clerks, mechanics, etc. But compensate for the higher risk in combat jobs by more pay, privileges, shorter terms, etc.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 01:24 PM
1

I didn't say Neanderthals. And AFAIK, the Bible is not a scientific text and it's not about Neanderthals. It doesn't have to be strict monogamy. Could be monogamy on the surface with cheating on the subsurface, which is pretty much what we see today. How would you explain pair-bonding/love except by monogamy?
/r/MensRights23/01/25 08:03 AM
1

Stop paying taxes. I'm serious. The government has become the middleman between men and women. As a result, women don't need men. The taxes you pay to the government enable this. I'll elaborate. A couple of thousand years ago, a cave-woman was not able to live without a caveman. The man was stronger and protected and provided for her. The men went out hunting or farming while the women foraged orntook care of house/cave work. A woman would find a man who is capable of protecting and providing th…
/r/MensRights23/01/25 07:15 AM
2

Men gave it up without demanding women to be drafted. That would have been a fair trade.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 12:00 AM
1

I prefer import taxes over income taxes. It means imported goods cost more, but it also gives local manufacturing a competitive advantage. More jobs. What is this road and tourism tax? I searched and I can't find it. Do you mean tolls?
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:23 PM
0

And you're just going to enable this freeloading? Unless it's stopped, it's going to continue. The way to stop it is to choose the best ones for the job, regardless of gender, and pay them and give them other incentives (tax breaks, GI bill, federal hiring preferences), just like now, but depending on the risks and rewards of the job. Infantry would get paid way more than a clerk. Or if it's a draft, shorter periods for infantry and longer periods for clerks. If there are no genders, there is no…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 03:17 PM
0

Because they can't, I guess. Then, they should be playing the handicapped league. If it's called the 'handicapped league', instead of 'women's league', they wouldn't be asking for the same pay claiming gender discrimination.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:33 PM
0

Yeah, they should be playing 'open'.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 02:00 PM
1

What taxes are they going to raise? Genuinely interested in finding out. Last time, under Trump, they increased the standard deduction for individual income, child care tax credit and decreaed corporate tax rate. This time they are saying they will reduce corporate tax rate further, stop taxing overtime, tips and social security benefits, and impose tariffs on imports to subsidize government expense so further taxes can be reduced.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 01:58 PM
17

Probably just community service.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:51 PM
1

Please go do more physical labor than women while you get paid the same, and then get blown up in war or sink first in a ship while the women are safe. That is your role.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 07:43 AM
4

Exactly. That is what I'm trying to say.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:36 AM
0

A 100 lb weight doesn't care about sexual dimorphism. It's the same weight for a man and a woman. Nature does not give f**k. But a man has to deadlift 340 lb to get 100% on the Army Combat Fitness Test, and a woman only has to lift 220 lb. That's because humans give preferential treatment to some of them. The ones benefitting from this preferential treatment want to keep it going.
/r/MensRights22/01/25 12:28 AM
5

Yeah. American men gave women the vote without asking them to be drafted. The women survived a bunch of wars, that they voted for, on the blood of men. Now they call men useless. A lesson is to be learned here.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 10:30 PM
6

You should be given a choice to take the vote privilege or not. If you choose to vote, you should be dropped right in the trenches with the men if war comes.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:54 PM
9

Yes, they should, if they are to vote. Otherwise they vote for war, and men die.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:32 PM
1

FYI, I don't hate trans people. As far as I'm concerned, people can call themselves whatever they like. Just play by the same rules as everyone else, and don't use my tax dollars for cosmetic (trans) surgery.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:30 PM
7

I just realized that these two that replied are female. They don't want to sign up for Selective Service or play against men in sports.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:26 PM
1

That's why you put in job based standards instead of gender based standards. One physical and intelligence standard for infantry. Another physical and intelligence standard for clerks. Pay differently for jobs based on supply and demand. Men will become infantry. Women will become clerks.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:24 PM
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And you want men and women in the military to be paid differently when the men can do more? Take two cooks in the Army. The male cook passes the physical test to a higher standard and might be able to do more if the base gets attacked. But he gets paid the same as the female cook. If you said change the standard by their job (cook, clerk, mechanic, infantry, special forces) that would be acceptable. When you select to standard, not giving special treatment to one gender, people will pick roles b…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 09:12 PM
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If you want to treat them the same, why not call them the same? If you are a man, you're setting yourself up for failure, because men do most of the work for society, and do not get compensated for it. Call everyone the same name, treat everyone exactly the same, and women will start to appreciate men, because they cannot bear the same burden that men bear when it is expected of them.
/r/MensRights21/01/25 07:48 PM
-3

Do you think they should be treated differently?
/r/MensRights21/01/25 07:41 PM
1

What is your country? And what SA laws are not gender neutral?
/r/MensRights21/01/25 12:21 PM
10

I don't know about "sexually attracted to". I only respect women who respect me. I don't respect women who disrespect me, even if they are sexually attractive. That's simping.
/r/MensRights08/01/25 08:27 PM
9

They will always ridicule men until they directly need the help of a man.
/r/MensRights08/01/25 04:35 PM
9

Damn. I didn't know that even the Chinese communist party has become gynocentric.
/r/MensRights31/12/24 07:20 PM
1

Modern society has pushed men out, by making marriage and workplace hostile, with stupid concepts such as 'financial and emotional abuse' that works only in women's favor, alimony, unfair child custody, not prosecuting false rape and harassment charges, 'equity', DEI hires etc. As a result, the men are not invested in the society. When there are no families and children to protect, why put themselves at risk? For untrustworthy, golddigging women who who wouldn't work hard to make as much money a…
/r/MensRights23/12/24 02:37 PM
4

Yeah, I saw this label on a product and avoided it. But the government would have chosen it.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 06:57 PM
4

I'm going to do everything I can to pay less taxes, because all this discrimination against me is funded by my own taxes.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 03:38 PM
11

Nice compilation of data. Let's spread the truth far and wide.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 02:40 AM
13

Nice compilation of data. Let's spread the truth far and wide.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 02:39 AM
1

What we should really stop is the women making the government their husband. The government forcefully takes labor and money from men and gives it to women.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 12:23 AM
2

Discrimination in the workplace. Not getting the pay that is worthy of our talent. In the physical professions (police, military, fire etc) males will have higher physical requirements, which means they are expected to do most work. But we don't get paid extra for that extra work that is expected of us. For example, in the Army Combat Fitness Test, a male has to deadlift 340 lbs to get 100%. A female can get 100% by lifting 210 lbs. This affects promotion points, so it has a direct consequence o…
/r/MensRights26/11/24 12:26 AM
2

Oh wow. It's almost as if people have to organize and do something about it, the first step of which, is to spread awareness of it, like posting on reddit.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 08:04 PM
1

Oh wow. You've been saying it all along? Why is it still there then? /s
/r/MensRights11/11/24 07:10 PM
2

Guess there's no need for Selective Service then.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 05:33 PM
1

Tell that to the people screaming about the abortion rights too.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 04:08 PM
3

My point is that that's going to be me if US goes to major war. So much for my bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 04:07 PM
6

Yes, I've seen Ukrainian and Russian men getting blown up by drones, sometimes when they are wounded and begging for their lives and trying to surrender. Maybe thousands by now. Haven't seen a single woman in those drone videos.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 01:07 PM
30

Then I assume women wouldn't mind signing up for selective service?
/r/MensRights11/11/24 01:49 AM
1

Same for the counter. It matters where my time, attention, and money go. Any pathway a 4B woman gets any of these from me, directly or indirectly, should be blocked.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 11:54 PM
1

That's right. They don't owe me anything. I don't owe them anything either.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 11:10 PM
1

Yes. Straw man. Practical diplomacy is not rage. If your employee stopped doing any work, do you still keep paying them? If yes, I'm going to come work for you, and do nothing and collect a paycheck.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 10:36 PM
1

What rage and what hate?
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:32 PM
3

Good women are not the enemy. Evil women are, and need to be treated as such. Bridge for a bridge, and wall for a wall. Tit for tat is good diplomacy. Otherwise you're just going to end up being used.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:11 PM
2

My suggestions do not go against teaming up with good women and raising good kids.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:06 PM
2

The suggestions I have given don't make one's life worse. They are selfish suggestions that make one's own life better, in addition to helping men i general. Here is how. By not caring about random women and random people in general, one is free to use that time, effort, and attention on women or people who do actually matter and give something back to you. Saving on taxes saves your own paycheck. Not working for sexist institutions gives you more pay for your effort because you are not being ex…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 09:05 PM
2

We don't have to actually organize it, have a flag, a logo, a secret handshake, etc. All we have to do is spread knowledge among men about how to pay less taxes. Those who do it will do it, and those who feel more ideological will go out of their way to do it.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:38 PM
7

I have community with people who do not exploit me and give me something in return for what I provide. And I am not angry as long as I am not exploited.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:32 PM
3

Yes, you misread. None of the latter means anything if they are not quantifiable.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:29 PM
4

I'm only withholding my labor as I see necessary. Anyone else's 'basic needs' is not my problem. It is up to them and their network to provide the basic needs for themselves.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:27 PM
3

Good. You are not my problem. I don't owe you anything. You two will survive or die as a unit. Unless you give something to me personally, I'm going do my best to make sure you don't get anything from me directly, or indirectly through the government. I have nothing to do with you, and you have nothing to do with me.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:22 PM
5

If you can't survive on your own, find a man.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:13 PM
13

You are not entitled to my labor. If you want food and shelter, do that labor yourself.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:08 PM
1

I agree that resources of society should be cut off to all who do not contribute, regardless of gender. I'm trying to spread awareness among males to not simp and give 4B women even more attention in the hopes of getting laid by them. Instead, it should be less attention, and withholding of protection and provision, and 'if you want my attention, or want to register in my radar at all, give me something in return that makes it worth my time'. We should be more individualistic, just like they are…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 03:05 PM
5

Well, I did not say that's all of it. But let's dissect how they contribute. Most primary and secondary education teachers are women, so they contribute that way. But with the liberal feminist agenda, most of them push out, that's been negated or even rendered harmful. Most nurses are women. They contribute that way. Many administrative and HR jobs are women. There are women white collar in STEM jobs, but most are men. Most of the construction, automotive or anything that involves physical labor…
/r/MensRights10/11/24 02:54 PM
2

This just shows how selfish they are. All men in the US still have to register for Selective Service. No man in the US is allowed to voluntarily withdraw fatherhood rights and responsibilities if he's not prepared. And yet, allowing abortion is up to each state, and any woman can abandon a baby at a fire or police station with no questions asked. Women still have more rights than men.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 03:52 PM
1

I practice this. It has brought peace. If she is a random woman or hasn't been nice to me recently, I just ignore her. There is no hate. It's more of "why should I bother thinking about this woman who doesn't even think I'm human," and I just continue on my merry way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:44 AM
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I agree with the OP, but mostly because higher taxes mean men get taken advantage of.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 09:22 PM
6

Short answer, no. Marriage is a financial contract. It is disadvantageous to sign this contract with someone who doesn't earn as much as you, especially when they can stop the marriage at any time when they feel like it and get half of the wealth earned during marriage. Also, if you dutifully did your best at work, while the other person stayed the mostly at home and with the kids, you will be punished by losing the kids and having to pay child support and alimony. Learn from the stories on this…
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/24 04:48 PM
3

Ah, the 7 year itch.
/r/Divorce_Men07/10/24 01:45 AM
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Doesn't mean she's not going to cheat.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/10/24 06:20 PM
0

Do I have to try doing helroin to know that doing heroin will destroy me? Or jump off a cliff?
/r/MarriedRedPill06/10/24 05:10 PM
0

Message is, don't sign a marriage agreement.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/10/24 04:30 PM
4

Do it. She has not been reasonable with you in the past. She would do it to you and you know it. You try to be nice at first to see if there is a chance of cooperation. If that doesn't work, you play hardball. Then they realize it's just better to cooperate. It's called deterrence. It looks like you're past the point of being nice.
/r/Divorce_Men06/10/24 03:54 PM
8

Why are you trying to pull punches? You know that she wouldn't do it for you.
/r/Divorce_Men06/10/24 03:41 PM
5

Which state is this? She was held accountable for her personal decisions, and you got custody? Sounds like you were treated fairly. Please tell me what state this is so I can move there.
/r/Divorce_Men02/10/24 05:24 PM
8

She's not in love with you. She is getting ready for a financial marriage. Already crunching numbers and making the exit plan. If she loves you, she would stay with you regardless of the finances. Read the stories on this sub. These are the stories of financial marriages. The man gets taken to the cleaners.
/r/Divorce_Men02/10/24 03:39 PM
1

So where is the title ix for men?
/r/MensRights23/09/24 08:26 PM
3

That I should give her the illusion that I am capable of eventually doing these things, but it is up to her to 'fix' me by giving me what I want (being nice, sex etc). There is a cycle in mating. For a woman, it goes like this. Find a man at the edge of her sexual market value capability (this is why they like bad boys. A bad boy's value is so much above her, and he has so many options that he is out of her league). Make him compliant by promising or giving him sex (Betaization. Get him to do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:49 PM
3

I know that is the case in Canada. In the US, some states have common law marriage (marriage rules apply to long-term domestic partnerships). I think the best state for men to have a family in the US in Kentucky. Default 50-50 custody, capped child support. There is alimony, but that can be avoided by avoiding marriage. Also, there is no common law marriage. I'm moving to Kentucky soon.
/r/MensRights24/08/24 03:26 PM
3

This is why a man must keep his path open to leave a relationship immediately, at all times. They initiate physical violence, we react, and they get hurt. This probably happens from men who are trapped in a marriage, who can not leave because he will lose everything he worked his whole life for, and will lose custody of kids and will also have to pay child support. So he will not leave when the toxicity starts to show, and eventually, domestic violence will be the result. Don't sign a marriage c…
/r/MensRights24/08/24 02:43 PM
3

Thanks!
/r/MensRights16/08/24 12:55 PM
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We might not think we are slaves. But we are. But we are tax slaves, paying taxes in the income we make, because the alternative is starving. Our taxes provide security and welfare to the society through the government. If there was no government, a woman would have to find a man for security and provision/welfare. But now she doesn't, because the government does it instead of the man, paid by everyone's taxes. The man who would have gotten a wife and children when there was no government, now j…
/r/MensRights16/08/24 12:40 PM
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If it were up to women, most of us would be enslaved while a minority of men inseminate everyone. This is actually happening.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 12:32 PM
1

This is why you don't sign a legal marriage agreement, especially if you are a man. Most men stay in sexless marriages because they will lose everything they have worked for in their life. Not you. Once the sex cuts off, you are gone. Or take a trip to Colombia or Thailand and come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:32 AM
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Other men reading, learn from his experience. If you own your own home, have the title only in your name (buy it before marriage if you marry, and then don't let your wife make any improvements to it). The government will always go against you because you are male, so this is how you prevent becoming homeless. Do not tolerate even a small attempt at domestic violence. Either tell her to leave or get the police involved. Pluck the plant out before it becomes a tree. I wish the OP best of luck. Yo…
/r/MensRights10/08/24 10:08 PM
10

You are being exploited. Just use your job as a stepping stone. Save money and leave when you can.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 06:36 PM
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I have no objection if there is equal paternity leave. Whatever it is, make it exactly equal for both genders, so one gender is not making up the slack for the lack of productivity of the other gender.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 04:55 PM
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Do not sign a legal marriage contract. Legal marriage in modern gynocentric society benefits women in every way but gives men no benefits or authority. Just responsibilities. Find ways to have relationships without legal marriage. Stop protecting and providing for and giving attention to women who do not give you anything in return (stop simping). Use your limited time and effort on things that actually give you results. Find ways to stop paying taxes because the government takes your money and …
/r/MensRights10/08/24 04:07 PM
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Modern marriage is an unfair financial contract, and it destroys men. Just go to the sub r/Divorce_Men and look at the stories. Before civilization, there was no legal marriage. The cave people just pair bonded. This is the natural way. When marriage was first instituted, it was for life. Something pretty bad had to happen to break a marriage. But then, no fault divorce came about. There is no 'Till death do us part' anymore. Whoever that profits more from initiating divorce can just do it. When…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 01:16 AM
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Sounds like a plan. If you can't contribute positively to a man's life, stay away from it. We don't want to pay alimony to get rid of a giant liability who does nothing but sit on the couch, watch Oprah and eat bon bons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:34 AM
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The problem with this question is that you're only thinking about sex. As long as she is a good dishwasher, cook and launderer, I'd gladly stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:53 AM
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Maybe you can start with another job if quality of life and prestige is important to you, and then gradually transfer to farming? Become a 'gentleman farmer' and use the newest methods and get more yield, and get tax breaks. Avoid high tax activities as much as you can, especially if the government is unfair to men. You'll get the satisfaction of not feeding the enemy. Also you can boycott. In the US, sometimes they put out that a product is from a 'woman owned business', or other minority owned…
/r/MensRights31/07/24 11:54 PM
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100,000
/r/MensRights31/07/24 11:06 PM
1

This is why voluntary rejection of paternal rights and responsibilities should be a thing. You should be able to say "No I don't want this kid" and give up all rights and responsibilities within, let's say, two months. If you didn't consent to being a father, you shouldn't be forced in to being one.
/r/MensRights31/07/24 01:29 PM
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Is this in India? Is the 30% reservation in government jobs, or is it private company jobs also? Is the SC, ST, OBC and EWS the people who are supposed to be economically disadvantaged people? Then why don't they measure it by income instead of caste or tribe, which a person cannot change? Are there political parties that want to change these policies? You should organize and vote for them. Are there ways of paying less taxes to the government that doesn't represent you? Some ways that come to m…
/r/MensRights31/07/24 01:21 PM
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Thanks for letting me know. I can boycott this airline now. If they assume me to be repulsive and dangerous because of my gender, they don't need my money.
/r/MensRights31/07/24 12:51 PM
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Yeah, because men work more.
/r/MensRights31/07/24 12:47 PM
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But what is a woman?
/r/MensRights31/07/24 12:35 PM
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Have a strategy to pay the least amount of taxes you possibly could. Our own governments are mistreating us. At least don't pay them for it.
/r/MensRights31/07/24 12:33 PM
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Being the safe option is fine. But I'm not going to work for it or sign a binding financial contract (marriage). When I stop getting sex and the other benefits of the relationship, I have to be able to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:25 PM
3

Texas doesn't have default 50-50 custody.
/r/MensRights05/10/23 09:13 AM
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Move to Kentucky. You get 50-50 custody by default, and child support is capped. You will still have to pay child support if you earn more, but it's never going to be so high that you're going to be homeless. And you'll get to see your kids.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 10:46 PM
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Would smash and ghost. But would not put any effort in to dating or talking. Or I wouldn't mind being a house husband for a feminist breadwinner woman. Would stay just long enough in the marriage to divorce and get alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:55 AM
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"‪The “protector” and “providor” role has died out." As long as men give those services to society in general. All they have to do is strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:20 PM
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That is a direct reaction to the narcissism and lack of empathy by women who see only men being drafted, losing custody of children, having to work harder (higher physical training standards) in physical jobs (military, police, firefighter, etc) to get the same pay etc. The appropriate reaction by men is to stop paying taxes, and stop doing the the hard physical labor jobs that keep society running. When women are forced provide their own protection and are forced to become the garbage collector…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:45 PM
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Not with my tax dollars. Tax women separately for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:23 PM
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Your sexism is showing. Doesn't matter who does the crime. Victims must be protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:24 PM
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There are ways to pay less taxes, or none at all by taking ones business to PR, ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:52 PM
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Given that males are subject to more violent crime than females, yes, I find it offensive. Also my tax dollars should be spent in a gender neutral way. If not, I'm going to find a way to not pay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:48 PM
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Don't sign a legal marriage agreement, unless your partner makes more money than you. The instant they make less than you, divorce them. Legal marriage only benefits the lower earner. If you want to have kids, go to a default 50-50 custody state, like KY, and have kids there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:53 AM
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Idiocracy is coming true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:47 AM
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"Albeit I heard some feminists say men avoiding women, can lead to not giving women opportunities in particular jobs, or excluding them from important work projects". WTF? Why is it men's responsibility to chase women and give them opportunities and projects? If they want those they can go and ask for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/23 04:30 PM
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This is why men should prefer women who are willing to receive anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:54 AM
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Male only Selective Service. Affirmative action. Female only scholarships. Diversity hires. Child custody and child support mostly going to mothers. Alimony. All of this and men are expected to work and keep civilization afloat. This is how men are getting exploited. Welfare had rendered men obsolete. Previously the family unit stayed intact. Everyone had a role and everyone was important. But now, because of welfare, men are not needed anymore. The family unit can be broken apart, and the gover…
/r/MensRights15/08/23 08:56 PM
1

Less welfare and more military spending. If it's not going that way, use every trick in the book to not pay taxes. A country being great doesn't mean anything if a significant fraction of people in the country are being exploited and suffering.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 05:12 AM
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Not complaining. Comparing notes and figuring out a plan of action. At least some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:49 PM
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Or, men can stop all the services they contribute to society, stop paying taxes, and let it all go to hell. Then women are going to have to latch on to a man just to survive.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 12:47 PM
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A man wants you to have sex with only him, cheating or not. That is an evolved instinct that makes sure you only have his children, and he doesn't invest in some other guy's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:44 PM
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This when you forget her and leave her to survive by herself.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 07:54 AM
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"I don’t love Chad, I’d just fuck him." This is why you are unworthy of investment by a non-chad. Men value sexual fidelity. If you can't be sexually faithful to them, you're unworthy of effort and investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:38 AM
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We do not expect to be treated like Chad. We do, however, want our time, energy and attention to be invested on something that pays back. How much return we get from our investment matters. That is why we discuss among eachother, which women to invest time energy and attention on, or whether to invest in any women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:32 AM
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This is sarcasm right? You forgot the /s.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 11:38 AM
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No, it's mandatory equal outcome. Equity would be the following: women get the same pay as male garbage men, but they have to collect from half as many houses, because they have smaller bodies.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 09:48 AM
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Why isn't the fat barbie the lead role though? Why is the lead role a slim barbie that meets the standard attractiveness criteria? Are they accepting that fat is inferior?
/r/MensRights24/07/23 08:13 AM
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It's funny that, considering they want to be 'body positive', there is no Fat Barbie. Or is there? I didn't watch. But considering their principles, the lead role should be Fat Barbie.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 04:40 AM
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Not only your money. Don't invest your time either. This is pretty much well known now. Men are learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:04 AM
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I think time has come to stop all these services we provide to the society.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 07:09 AM
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This is why men (or anyone) should quit jobs that employ useless people and give them the same pay. The people who do the actual work are not getting paid what they are worth, and are also losing a fraction of their pay to the useless ones, while also doing their work. After quitting they should join competing contractors or make their own contracting business. The woke business that pays incompetent people the same salary because of 'equity' is not going to be able to compete and stay afloat. A…
/r/MensRights22/07/23 06:55 PM
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I'm genuinely curious. Are they effective as much as the males at a physical job such as construction? I know that male athletes are generally faster and stronger than female athletes, so I'd be surprised if the same trend doesn't show in physical labor jobs.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 12:07 PM
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Losers in the eyes of a society that tries to exploit them for labor without giving them a fair chance of getting a partner and a hope of having a family. But they are hitting back in their own way. They are refusing to contribute and letting it all go to hell. I'd call them winners.
/r/MensRights29/06/23 09:45 AM
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This study didn't differentiate between potential long term and short term partners. Women want to secure a man with resources as a provider for the long term. But if the opportunity presents itself, will have discrete flings/sex with strong, good looking, healthy males (chad) as short term partners. The dual mating strategy.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 02:23 PM
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Make all the requirements equal. For example, if the physical requirements for military was the same for both genders, it will be mostly males that will be selected, but they will be the most suitable candidates for the nature of the job. This is how nature selects someone for a task. If you have to go build a house in the woods, the amount of work to be done does not change based on someone's genitalia. It's the same for everyone.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 10:44 AM
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I agree with this. Make all the requirements equal. For example, if the physical requirements for military was the same for both genders, it will be mostly males that will be selected, but they will be the most suitable candidates for the nature of the job. This is how nature selects someone for a task. If you have to go build a house in the woods, the amount of work to be done does not change based on someone's genitalia. It's the same for everyone.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 10:42 AM
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I'm also interested in this. But how do you keep a developed country income while living in a third world country? One thing I can think of is becoming a landlord and having a property management company manage your properties. Also remote working long distance. But how come a job you can remote work from a third world country hasn't been outsourced already? Anyway, I guess the point is to have wives/girlfriends and families outside in other countries while avoiding the exploitative marriage/div…
/r/MensRights04/06/23 07:45 AM
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Best way to secure your future is to not marry at all. Or you'll end up living in a car while paying most of your salary to your ex wife and her new lover, while you can't even see your children.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 07:16 AM
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At first marriage used to be only religious and used to be a symbol of sexual faithfulness. Later, it became legal and finances got involved. Later, infidelity and no fault divorce got legalized. If anyone wants a symbol of sexual faithfulness they can still do the religious marriage and skip the legal one, and not put their finances at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:44 AM
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Even if he didn't marry her, the state will make him pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:58 AM
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Marriage is not worth it for ANYONE who is marrying a lower earner. Cheating is not a crime, so your spouse can cheat anytime. There is no requirement in marriage to keep your partner happy or sexually satisfied, so sex can be cut off anytime by your spouse. And after doing all of this they can divorce you and be entitled to money that YOU made if you make more money than them. Marriage is not worth it if you earn more than the other person. Marriage only has disadvantages if you're the higher e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:56 AM
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Whatever it is, it should be the same for men and women.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 05:56 PM
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This is just adding to the market. It's not taking away. So it's not exploitation. The guy who pays 1 dollar per minute for this would have paid an actual woman the same amount or more. This is good for men. It's flooding the market with an increased supply of goods, causing the price of the goods to go down. Also the technology will improve and the prices will go down. This AI girlfriend might cost 1 dollar per minute. But the next one, from a competing company, may be 50 cents a minute. Then s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:42 AM
1

If women were also made to risk their lives, that would have been equality. Instead it became cherry picking entitlements while avoiding responsibilities.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 09:28 AM
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Dating anyone is fine. But only legally marry someone who makes more than you. If she makes less than you just have a ceremony, exchange rings and vows and call yourselves married (in a non common law marriage state).
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:33 PM
1

So you're just going to give up? Giving up is not an option. We have nowhere to go. We only have this life.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:30 PM
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I don't have a blog. I meant other forums such as trp.red. If you're curious, this same post I made in purplepilldebate got deleted from here once it reached 50 upvotes. I was not given a good explanation why. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12v9imp/if_you_marry_in_the_us_you_should_only_marry
/r/MensRights21/05/23 01:42 PM
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I have submitted several posts to this sub about what us men as individuals can do. But they are getting deleted by the moderators here. For example I posted how men in the US should approach marriage. It was an actionable plan about what to do instead of just crying about it. Got deleted. Maybe posts by others are being deleted too. So I have been looking at other places where we can organize, in addition to posting grievances.
/r/MensRights21/05/23 12:45 PM
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Not men's fault. This is compensated for in nature by women being valued more and protected. Example 'women and children first' when a ship is sinking. Also women didn't have to go to war, and were kept protected. Because they didn't go to war, they didn't get to vote either. But this tendency to protect women is being used by feminists to cherrypick all the rights for women, and keep all the responsibilities to men. If you want equality, the bad should come with the good. EVERYTHING should be e…
/r/MensRights21/05/23 12:32 PM
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What if the man that is being sent to die is your father, or the father of your children, or your brother, or your son? Does he deserve to die just because of your selfish belief that you as a woman is exempt from responsibility?
/r/MensRights21/05/23 10:15 AM
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Yes
/r/MensRights21/05/23 09:47 AM
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The right to be safe is also a human right. Men did not have that right. They were sent to war to their death, against their will. That was a responsibility. In exchange for that they got to vote. Women cherrypicked the right to vote, but didn't want the responsibility of going to war.
/r/MensRights21/05/23 09:46 AM
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Hey, I would gladly take it. It's kind of a little weird to add the 'for a man' part, and I would wonder what that's about a little. But I get no compliments whatsoever, even when I outperform. It's kind of expected as a male. So I would gladly take it.
/r/MensRights21/05/23 07:18 AM
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They got to vote without going to war. Men and only men, still had to go risk their life in war. What do you think?
/r/MensRights21/05/23 07:09 AM
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Even hiring 50% women is wrong. Hiring should be completely gender blind.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 01:01 AM
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Majority of people got married a long time ago, when there were protections against infidelity in marriage. No more. Legal marriage rates have been steadily going down, for good reason. Logically, there is no good reason to get legally married to a person who earns less than you. Legal marriage only has disadvantages to a higher earner.
/r/MensRights15/05/23 06:43 AM
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Ther is no need for legal marriage for that.
/r/MensRights25/04/23 11:05 AM
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Thanks for showing me that sub, LOL. I discovered two other interesting subs through it. r/infidelity , r/affairs and r/adultery . Shows how people think. Those subs are going to make a good red-pill studies..
/r/Divorce_Men25/04/23 02:24 AM
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This is the best strategy according to the rules, regardless of gender. Don't blame the player, blame the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:50 AM
2

Great! Enjoy! Congratulations to him!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:25 PM
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...says the person who stands to profit when the risk backfires. Since you're ok with taking risks you shouldn't have a problem marrying a lower income earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:07 PM
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I agree that cheating is wrong. But if I leave I lose the money I made and have to pay alimony. So someone who signed a marriage contract is trapped. That's why you don't sign a marriage contract in the first place. Or like I said, marry only a higher earner and divorce the moment they start earning less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:52 PM
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Well, good luck with your health (if you're sick) and in your future relationships. Do you think there is any reason to remove this post? It is related to men's rights, and I'm not advocating for genocide here. Just showing what absurd things you have to do to protect what you earned.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:15 PM
1

Prenups get voided if you are not extremely careful. Why bother when you can just not marry?
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:09 PM
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My bad. I thought you could see the original post. The original post is the following. Marriage in the US is a financial contract only. Each person's income becomes commingled and shared. But there is not much beyond this. Cheating is not a crime. Cheating means nothing when it comes to divorce. The cheater does not get punished. There is no requirement to keep your spouse happy. There is also no requirement to keep your spouse sexually satisfied. Also all states in the US have no fault divorce.…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:08 PM
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My bad. I thought you could see the original post. The original post is the following. Marriage in the US is a financial contract only. Each person's income becomes commingled and shared. But there is not much beyond this. Cheating is not a crime. Cheating means nothing when it comes to divorce. The cheater does not get punished. There is no requirement to keep your spouse happy. There is also no requirement to keep your spouse sexually satisfied. Also all states in the US have no fault divorce.…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:06 PM
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You can't see the original text?
/r/MensRights23/04/23 08:04 PM
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You can give the man an allowance, and he can pay that money to get your nails done, for flowers etc. He can pretend to be using his own money. Would you be ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:47 PM
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Traditional marriage (legal marriage) is dead/dying. The family court is against the breadwinner, and men are realizing this. They lose money, children, assets and more in a divorce, and there is nothing they can do to stop it. So the number of men signing marriage contracts are going down. Did you hear about the soccer player who avoided losing everything by giving it to his mother. Do you remember how much publicity that story got? I'm curious. Would you be ok with a 'spiritual marriage' where…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:42 PM
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You can read, I hope. And rather than make baseless accusations, you can give reasons for why it's delusional, if you want to convince anyone.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 07:25 PM
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Yeah. The problem is with the marriage laws. If you hit her with a hammer you're going to go to jail anyway. That's enough deterrence to not do it. You can still treat her very well after NOT signing a marriage contract. I don't think a legal contract is necessary at all. What do you get from legal marriage that is not present in non-legal marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:39 PM
1

Well, just don't sign a legal marriage contract if you're the higher earner. Just do a ceremony and call yourselves married, in a non-common-law-marriage state. Or become pretty handy with stuff around the house, and become a non-working house husband to a boss-babe feminist. Feminists always harp about unpaid labor about the house, so they should be glad to have you doing the unpaid labor. You will be secure in the marriage because you're the one taking her to the cleaners if she cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:25 PM
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Not a lawyer, but I GUESS it can work? You have to sell before she declares divorce though, because once that happens there is a freeze on all the marital assets. And anything you sell will have to be stuff you acquired BEFORE marriage too, because everything you earned during marriage is usually considered joint property.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:00 PM
1

If it comes to that, the men can make their own murderbots. And we're usually better engineers and mechanics than they are.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:04 PM
1

Sure. Then men don't have go to war for an ungrateful society.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:46 PM
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Legal marriage is a financial contract only. I gave reasons for this. If you are saying otherwise you should explain it, if you want to convince anyone.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:45 PM
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Are you saying people are owed marriage? Legal marriage is a made between two people If it is disadvantageous to one party they have a right to know.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:40 PM
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Not fictional issues. I clearly outlined why marriage is a bad deal for a higher earner.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:08 PM
1

Women do get aroused and desire sex, but it's mostly from men who look good, and there are other criteria such as they need to be impressed with you, feel secure etc. In your unfortunate state, your deformity might be the reason why you have not experienced arousal by woman. But a woman might still be attracted to you, which is different from arousal. You could still have a family with one if you manage to attract one. Just make sure that she can't leave with all your stuff if her arousal to Cha…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 11:40 AM
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This is the unfortunate state of things in Canada. Canadian men should just work towards leaving Canada.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 11:27 AM
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I think the law that applies depends on where you sign the contract. If you register in India, indian law. Of you register in a US state, the law of that state.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 11:24 AM
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Suppose a feminist, who also earns less than you, pretends to be a good loving woman for a short time. She gets you to sign a marriage contract. Afterwards, she turns back in to a feminist. What are you going to do? This has actually happened to many men. They thought their wives were good loving women, and they turn in to feminists.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 05:22 AM
1

Obamacare, Medicare, medicaid or whatever that covers the low income people.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 04:55 AM
1

Hahaha thanks for the laugh. That explains why you're not concerned about cheating. I'll go buy that beach ball.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 04:45 AM
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Yeah. But if you make more than her, don't marry. Just have a ceremony and call yourself married.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:35 AM
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Why go to all that trouble? Just don't marry!
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:30 AM
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Sure. I would like to get know you, and your er...wife. Btw, I wear condoms..
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:29 AM
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Why go through the trouble? Just don't marry.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:08 AM
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At some point men have to realize that they have to pull back and stop their contributions to society. We're the ones who allow these things because we keep working for their system. If we all just became non tax paying homesteaders, the system is going to break down.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 03:06 AM
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What emotions, lol. You're fine with someone else nutting in your woman.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:59 AM
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Congratulations! Good job! When becoming the higher earner comes with significant risks, it's time for all of us to become house-husbands! They are harping about all this unpaid labor that is done at home, so let's change roles and do the unpaid labor instead of going to work, and be secure knowing that we're the ones who are getting alimony and the child custody!
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:58 AM
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divorce first or at least separate instead of just cheating But when I divorce 'without fault' because I don't get sex, I have to pay alimony and lose my wealth, hence why you should not get legally married in the first place.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:49 AM
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Thanks for the info! This is very important to those who have relationships in common law states. But there are states where common law marriage is not recognized, right?
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:47 AM
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Sure. Then there is no reason to sign a marriage contract either.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:41 AM
1

Cool! Thanks for letting people know this method of protecting their hard earned wealth! Does the house (or anything else) have to belong to you before you enter in to the marriage? I assume if you buy it after marriage it would legally belong to both spouses. But wouldn't it be yours anyway if you bought it before the marriage? What I heard is that, in most states, you keep what you brought in to the marriage, and you share what you earned during the marriage.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 02:05 AM
2

If I were going to distill marriage down to one element it would be a stable environment to raise children. A close second would be a partnership for running a stable household for the sake of the health, stability and happiness of the people in the partnership. If that was the case, cheating will be illegal, and there would be some requirement to keep your spouse happy and sexually satisfied. That's probably how marriage started out. But I guess it changed from it's initial form. I'm not sure, …
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:52 AM
3

If you look for a bride abroad, marry her abroad and stay abroad. If you bring her here, she will use the biased system against you.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:38 AM
1

If you have shared assets and are not married, and break up, you could still end up having a legal battle That's why you don't have shared assets. Marriage makes it more complicated because everything you buy becomes a shared asset. Without marriage everything is so simpler. Collecting shared assets is a way for a financial exploiter to lock down a higher earners wealth. There is no need for that if two people trust each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:31 AM
1

I doubt that will ever happen. Until then, we have to do what's necessary to protect ourselves.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:26 AM
1

Well, no fault divorce also allows a lower earner to just divorce a higher earner for no reason and get alimony. So I guess there is good and bad. You just have to weigh the pros and cons and adjust to the times.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:14 AM
6

Yes. Let's all become house-husbands. I'm pretty handy around the house. Feminists don't like gender roles. So me staying home shouldn't matter to them.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:08 AM
0

Why would anyone get married, except to financially exploit a higher earner? It's just a cold, calculating financial legal contract. It has nothing to do with love or trust.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 01:05 AM
1

Not an option in the US.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 11:30 PM
1

Unfortunately that's the only thing that makes sense. That's why I suggest people do not do legal marriage.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 11:04 PM
1

You do not need to sign a legal marriage for any of the benefits that you listed, except for the marginal tax and healthcare savings, which are offset by divorce legal fees. If you have trust, you could have just as likely not signed a marriage contract and got the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:59 PM
3

Infidelity is a top cause of divorce, I'm not sure what you mean by "cheating means nothing". How are cheaters punished? Also, if my wife withholds sex and I cheat as a result, do I have to pay for something that is not my fault? 90% of divorce decrees award no alimony whatsoever. That's 10% too many. Of the remaining small percentage where alimony is awarded, it is sometimes awarded to men. Those men were smart enough to only sign a legal marriage contract with someone who earns more than them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:52 PM
3

Just don't sign a legal marriage contract. Have a ceremony, exchange vows and leave it at that. Make sure to do it in a state where common-law marriage don't exist, so the state can't say "you're legally married because you live like you're married".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:36 PM
2

Less and less people are signing legal marriage contracts, and that's partly because men refuse to do so. Marriage rates are at an all time low. Attitudes are changing. They should.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:30 PM
0

Well, it's nice to hear that the cheater is punished at least in some of the states. But what if my wife stops having sex with me and I cheat on her? I'm going to be punished for something that is not my fault. Seems like no legal marriage is the safest option.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 10:28 PM
2

That's insane. If she was employed immediately before she had kids, she can get employed immedialtely AFTER she had kids, especially if 50-50 custody, she watches the kids the same amount as him. The court should have considered her income BEFORE she had kids.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 10:25 PM
3

Religious marriage and legal marriage is different. You can go to a church and completely not sign a legal marriage contract. In fact I suggest people do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:21 PM
2

Ok. How is the cheater punished in fault based divorce?
/r/MensRights22/04/23 10:19 PM
4

You could have just not married and enjoyed the same love.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 10:15 PM
6

Did he immediately divorce when she said she isn't going back to work? Or how long did he wait?
/r/MensRights22/04/23 08:34 PM
2

Jesus. I have to spell this out to everyone. Assume you make more than your wife and she cheats on you. What are you going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:51 PM
0

If you make significantly more than him, your marginal tax and healthcare savings are not going to matter when he cheats on you, stops having sex with you and stops caring about your happiness, and then divorces you and gets alimony too. There are lawyer fees involved in divorce, but when your salary is higher than him by a certain amount, you stand to lose more than the lawyer fees. Of course, you can avoid the whole thing by not signing a legal marriage contract. Unless if you make approximate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:47 PM
2

If you have more (money?) than the woman, you should just have sex and/or children and not sign a marriage contract. You are just safer that way. And marriage is not about love or trust anyway. It's a cold, calculating financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:32 PM
5

Can you give reasons why you think why it is an absurd view? I gave my reasons for why it is not. Marriage is a cold, calculating financial contract and nothing else. It has nothing to do with love or trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:27 PM
5

And yet women file for divorce 80% of the time. All of them made the "in sickness and health" vows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:22 PM
2

It would be in your interest because over the years you'll be financially paying more in to the marriage that you financially get back. Of course, you can just not sign a marriage contract. Marriage has nothing to do with love. It's just a cold, calculating financial contract that the lower earner uses to exploit the higher earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:17 PM
5

Well you brought gender in to it. But that's 10% too many. Men shouldn't take that 10% risk. Neither should women. Also anyone should only have children in states that give equal custody by default (KY, WV etc.). That would minimize child support risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:09 PM
3

Would you rather marry someone who makes less than you, get cheated on, get no sex, and then also pay alimony and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:56 PM
3

That's why have to pick states where common-law marriage is not recognized. Also pick default equal custody states (KY, WV), or you will lose your kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:55 PM
2

Partnerships are good. They don't require marriage however. Marriage is only financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:29 PM
5

They just sign it because everyone else does, without thinking about it. There is just no reason to sign a marriage contract other than for finances. Love and marriage are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:24 PM
6

Then you can have a good relationship without signing a marriage contract. That contract is simply not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:20 PM
5

What else is it? Cheating is not illegal. There is no requirements of keeping the other person happy or having sex with them. The only thing that's in the contract is finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:17 PM
7

Yes, of course. Or he can just divorce you and continue to live with you. Don't take it personally. It's just about the finances. Marriage is nothing but a financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:16 PM
6

Agree. You shouldn't let other people profit off you using marriage either. Marriage simply isn't needed for a good relationship. It's just a financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:12 PM
6

If not for financial reasons, why sign a legal marriage contract at all? Just dress up, have a ceremony, and be done with it. Marriage is the financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:11 PM
4

Actually, men should marry only in default equal custody states so they get 50-50 custody. So marry only in an equal custody state, and only if your partner makes more or the same salary as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:02 PM
7

Cangratulations! Don't sign a legal marriage contract with your girlfriend though. There is no going back. She can just cut off sex, get fat, cheat, and still be entitled to half your earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:51 PM
1

And she's going to miss out on the love of a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:11 PM
2

Sure. I'm not going to lose anything. She can go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:10 PM
3

Sounds like he won big time! All men should aspire to marry women who earn more than them!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:08 PM
0

Great! I also aspire to marry a woman that makes more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:06 PM
4

It's probably because they are trying to fulfill societal expectations. They just think it's the right thing to do. They don't really do a cost-benefit analysis of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:06 PM
6

Or, in your case, you're probably scared that you will not be able to find a male that you can financially exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:03 PM
2

If money is not the most important thing to you, why do you want to sign a legal marriage contract anyway? Marriage is all about finances. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:02 PM
2

Agree. Be careful to avoid common law marriage states though. After a certain time of co-habitation, you become automatically married. Yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:00 PM
3

I'm just giving the people here suggestions so they don't get exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:59 PM
2

Answers to all three. Yes from the woman's viewpoint, for her to protect her wealth. For all marriages that you know where the man earns more, yes, he should have divorced, or not married in the first place, to protect his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:57 PM
4

Considering that if she decides to divorce, he keeps having to pay alimony, and most likely child support as well, YES! Immediate divorce. Or they can both take time off work and look after the kid equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:53 PM
0

AI will also make great sex robots and virtual girlfriends. Can't wait.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 11:54 AM
0

As a man, there is no point in collecting transferable wealth, when the family court is just going to take it from you. From a wealth standpoint, it's best to just become a house-husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:48 AM
3

You're spot on about the way women act. Mixed signals and plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:13 AM
4

Is the person being 'gaslighted' not an adult who is responsible for their own decisions? If I gave all my wealth to an onlyfans girl, I'm not going to claim that it's the girls fault. I was an idiot and wasted my money. Personal accountability doesn't seem to be a concept that they understand. This fuckery is going to continue, until men withdraw their contributions to society. And we should. Why should we care about a society that makes us second class citizens? These feminists need to face a …
/r/MensRights22/04/23 02:01 AM
3

The more self reliant you are, the less things and services that you buy, the less taxes you pay. If you fix a broken down house yourself using reclaimed materials, instead of buying a new house, less taxes. When you grow your own food instead of buying from a supermarket, less taxes. When you buy a used car for cheap instead of a new car, less taxes. When you fix your own car instead of going to a mechanic, less taxes. When you barter instead of buying, less taxes. When you do little jobs under…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:26 AM
2

Do it slowly. It's a goal to strive towards. Land is cheap away from the cities. I promise you, rewards are plenty when you are self sufficient. I'm not completely self-sufficient ýet, but trying to get there.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 11:48 PM
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Whose side are you on? I'm not going to die, or work my fingers to the bone, for a society that doesn't care about me. Who is going to force the men to fight or work when they won't? Women? Lol. Have fun being a slave.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 11:06 PM
-3

This society got this degenerate because the men kept contributing even when the rules changed. The society forgot how important the work that men do is, and the men still kept working. Time to stop contributing. Last year the military couldn't make quotas. That is good. Until the men are treated with dignity, we shouldn't step forward for this society that hates us.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 10:45 PM
-5

The best counter is for the men to leave and let this society go to hell. That's when they will realize the importance of men.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 10:29 PM
6

EVERYONE? That's going to be hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe millions. That's a lot of effort to expend on no crime being committed.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 09:55 PM
4

For what? For refusing to be a worker drone?
/r/MensRights21/04/23 09:43 PM
5

It's unfair already. What do we have to lose?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:21 PM
1

When a woman attacks my paycheck by receiving the same pay despite having lower job requirements, I feel the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:19 PM
1

Men have to deal with things like this because the value of males have been lowered. The answer, from a male perspective, is to stop contributing to a society that doesn't solve their mating problem. If enough men became homesteaders and left the system, the tax funded female welfare utopia will cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:16 PM
7

The answer, from a male perspective, is to stop contributing to a society that doesn't solve their mating problem. If enough men became homesteaders and left the system, the tax funded female welfare utopia will cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:14 PM
12

Or become a homesteader and leave the system. If enough men did this, the tax funded female welfare utopia will cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:09 PM
3

I'm not saying become a subsistence farmer all at once. Do it slowly. Become more and more self reliant gradually. Even if you have another job, the more you grow your own food, and fix your own equipment is going to help not to pay in to a system that hates you. In my state, a hunting license is $22 and you get a buck (male deer) tag, doe tag for a specific area, bear tag, 2 turkey tags. If you get a deer that meat might feed one person for about 3 or 4 months. Yes, property taxes are there. Se…
/r/MensRights21/04/23 07:49 PM
2

It's going to be a long time before all female mechanics will be welding AI robots. Even if they did, why not enjoy life in your homestead? It's very possible to buy some land and grow something in it. I'm doing it right now. The key is to buy farther away from cities. I'm not suggesting you make it your primary method of employment immediately. But become self sufficient little by little. Every little bit helps. And what's the point for collecting wealth when the family court is just going to t…
/r/MensRights21/04/23 05:23 PM
1

"She has no ill-will towards me and would leave her man for me in a heart beat if I wanted her to." Ask the mother to come to you with the kid.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 05:32 PM
1

Oh, so you don't want to leave the other women and go to Kentucky to be with your (if she is yours) child. Having a two parent functioning family seems to be important for a child. But you do you. It's your child after all. In cases like this, where the father doesn't want to be in the child's life, I think forcing to pay a fair amount of child support is justified. Anyway, if you get a private DNA test, you can make sure the child is yours. If you get a court appointed one, you can get your nam…
/r/MensRights18/04/23 05:21 PM
23

Jesus. How many Ukrainian men have already died, after forcibly not being allowed to leave?
/r/MensRights18/04/23 05:01 PM
2

If she decides to sue for child support later, are you sure the courts will accept your paper trail of support payments? Are you sure they will not take that as a 'gift' and make you pay full back-child-support? ​ Lastly, she assures me that I’ll eventually get on the birth certificate when I “prove” myself, but again, to her that would be me putting my career progress at hold to be at an arms reach Do you believe her? I don't. I think she will drag you along as long as she keeps getting money. …
/r/MensRights18/04/23 04:58 PM
1

When it's gone this far, you have to let it break down. All the Canadian men, realizing their second class citizen status, must become homesteaders and take care of themselves only, and refuse to do any heavy labor for society, even if paid. At the same time, they must do everything possible to pay least amount of taxes, also try to emigrate away when possible. Let's see how soon it breaks down when there are no men.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 11:36 PM
1

Thank you for agreeing that this is unfair for men. That is why men should not join, and leave if they are already in. Or, if they are staying in, instead of giving 100% of their physical capability, hang back and make women do equal work (for example if a man and a woman are unloading a truck, the man should unload only the half the truck and let the woman unload the other half). I'm trying to spread that awareness to the men.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 10:41 PM
1

Not men's fault. Men shouldn't be expected to make up for the work these women can't do.
/r/MensRights04/03/23 03:14 PM
1

If boys are forced then girls should be too
/r/MensRights19/02/23 08:39 PM
1

Boys don't want to die. Just like you.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 08:19 PM
1

We are fighting harder, AGAINST those who oppress us. We are the slaves that are trying to escape the plantation, instead of working harder to impress the master, and hoping we will get more scraps.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 01:56 PM
1

If the traditional world existed, I think many of us here would gladly give our lives for our families and countries. Sadly it's gone. All we have left is harlots that are not worth fighting for. The percentage of men who have lost their children and assets because of divorce is increasing. The percentage of men that don't have families is increasing. The percentage of men who don't have sex is also increasing. Many feel abandoned by their countries and their laws, so they don't think of it's wo…
/r/MensRights19/02/23 12:29 PM
3

Good. Now we have to make the same thing happen to general society.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 05:08 AM
-1

Modern women are 'independant' because they get unfair advantages. The cards are stacked in their favor, and they get paid when they don't contribute much. For example, take the military. It is completely capable of functioning without women. In fact, it did. But then the women wanted to get a paycheck from the military. But they couldn't perform to the same physical standards as men, so an easier female physical testing standard had to be introduced. So the women got paid the same, for doing le…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:06 AM
2

And then the woman divorced the man and got the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:21 AM
35

Good. Now they should make the Korean conscription laws equal for both genders as well, or remove them completely. Korean men are conscripted for 2 yrs, and they barely get any salary during that time (a friend said $30 a month. They don't have enough money to get a taxi to visit home during leave), while the women continue to live their lives as they please.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 04:10 AM
4

You shouldn't have a choice, like these men who didn't have a choice.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 11:15 PM
5

You think they can put out the same amount of work as a man? Very few women can. Look at the military. All the fighting is done by Special Forces and Ranger battalions, who are all men. Men are physically built for combat. Statistically speaking, a woman can't fight her way in to the target with a 120 lb rucksack, weapon and ammo, and fight her way out. The same will go for the boardrooms and law firms, but in a less intense way. Whoever that gets the responsibility will have to do the 80 hour w…
/r/MensRights18/02/23 11:00 PM
1

UN is a joke. It doesn't stand for equality.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:20 PM
2

"And God dammit it's their country! Have some courage and defend your country, your village, your house, your family like a real human, and like 100% of our ancestors did. If everyone single Ukrainians wanted to "live a safe life in a safe place", the Russians would already rule over Ukraine by now." Tell this to women too. Or are they exempt from responsibility?
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:19 PM
3

If they are forcing people to fight, EVERYONE should be forced to fight. Otherwise it's sexism.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:16 PM
6

What men should do to counter this is to quit the workforce and become homesteaders, or emigrate somewhere else. It will be fun and games for them until they lose the male workforce.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 08:08 PM
3

Even if on your feet the whole day, women should not be paid when men are not, or vice versa. That is sexism.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 07:49 PM
3

"Unfortunately, this has led to the government stepping in and declaring that anyone living together for 12 months is "legally married" for the government's purposes, meaning that the woman can take half his stuff even if he didn't agree to it, or expressly denied it." Common-law marriage. Is that in Canada? Canadian birth rates are going down as a result of that. I guess Canadian men can vote for politicians that would counter those laws, or just leave if they can. There are certain states in t…
/r/MensRights18/02/23 04:35 PM
1

I think what we can do as men, is to spread awareness to other men using whatever means (such as reddit) we can, and then also do what's best for ourselves which will result in free market action (such as moving to states that are legally better for men, choosing not to sign a legal marriage contract if you don't like it etc.).
/r/MensRights18/02/23 04:05 PM
1

Well, no one seems to be on the side of the men who get exploited for work. It's not socially acceptable for the men to fight for themselves. When that happens, the only option for those want to be treated fairly, is to move out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to be only for Spain, not EU. So Spanish men can go work somewhere else. But like you said, they have to start over somewhere else.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 03:35 PM
5

Legal marriage is a pretty bad deal for men. Don't sign that contract. Move to a equal custody state like KY or WV, and have a non-legal marriage if she wants to be 'wifey'. If you can't find a woman who will agree to a non-legal marriage, wait. Women's fertility runs out, so they have to agree if they want to have kids. The wall is undefeated.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 03:15 PM
2

I have decided to use on simple older cars beczause of this reason. Either you have a car (cheaper old one that I fix myself in my case), or you're dependant on paying extra city taxes for (unreliable, time wasting) mass transportation. I'd rather be the former.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 01:00 PM
1

Menopause doesn't give anyone an excuse to be a shitty person, take unneeded risks or destroy property. One should have accountability for one's actions.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 02:15 AM
12

Like anyone's going to care about a male menopause if there is one. There is mass gendercide of men happening in the form of conscription, but no one cares.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 05:37 PM
3

The matrix runs on taxation and simpation. Stop paying taxes, and the machinery will break down. If all the men became homesteaders, became self reliant and minimized tax payments, the matrix will cease to exist. But there are plenty of simps willing to provide taxation and simpation. That is the problem.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 01:04 PM
6

Probably pandering to tradcons.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:45 PM
1

I think from the enemy's side, it would make more sense to bring in more immigrants. They will work without complaint and pay taxes. It's been happening for a long time. Printing money doesn't mean anything without actual production. But if men start not paying taxes and leaving with their wealth as they collect more, then we make it more difficult for the enemy. Better than doing nothing.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:32 PM
3

Actually, I support going 'off-grid' very much. If most of the men started 'going off the grid' and started homesteading, and started paying as little taxes as possible, the governments will have less ability to exploit men. Men are the majority of the workers around the world, and pay most of the taxes, which the governments use to provide services that are otherwise provided by men to the family, lowering the importance of men and allowing women to take the men for granted. If men started work…
/r/MensRights07/02/23 06:06 PM
10

That why I put "US men" in the title.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 02:46 PM
1

I googled this, but couldn't find anything like that for Philippines. So I think it's false.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 05:18 PM
2

I don't know about the $800 a month thing. But the infidelity is only illegal from the soldier's end. Only the soldier is subject to UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). The spouse is subject to civilian laws.
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/23 12:32 AM
1

Wife? Any man who signs a marriage contract with the state these days is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:20 PM
1

Yeah I have fun, when I tell this to guys who married, and watch their face change when they realize they are not going to keep getting the sex they want. They expect to get regular sex for free, and end up becoming an ATM with no sex. Yes, it's quite funny.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:27 AM
1

Damn, looks like I touched a nerve, lol. Can't blame you. If I signed a shitty contract, I'd also be pissed off every time someone reminded it to me.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 12:19 AM
0

I disagree with both of you actually. Husband and wife are under contract to share financial income. But no one is under contract to give sex. She could decide to get a 'headache' every day, day after day, and there is nothing you can do about it. Marriage is a financial contract (that is disadvantageous for the higher income earner) which has nothing to do with sex.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 12:01 AM
1

Oh, thanks for the heads up. Any idea why? Were they leaving them with kids? Also, is it going to be just the man's fault, or are both the man and woman held at fault?
/r/MensRights25/12/22 07:00 PM
1

There are certain states where the default is 50-50 child custody, unless one parent is proven unfit. Kentucky is one. If I have children it will only be in such a state. Equal custody does not mean no child support though. But there's a cap of 2k per month in Kentucky. Does not go higher than that. So I would say KY is a good place for men to have children.
/r/Divorce_Men25/12/22 03:20 PM
2

I think there are places to go to, if you can find work. UAE and Singapore are more high income, high expense places. Thailand, Phillipines, etc are lower income, lower expense places. You can become a digital nomad and keep working for a higher income country clients and live in a lower expense one.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 01:11 PM
24

Men in the UK. Leave. And take your labor, wealth, talents and taxes away with you.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 12:59 AM
1

Indeed hopeful news. What is the state/country? How long were you married for?
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/22 06:18 PM
8

So am I. Infrastructure and foreign military threats can go to hell. Not my problem. Women can deal with it. It's their world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:50 AM
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I agree with all this. But something you didn't consider is the pushback that's going to come from men, and it's not going come from a direction that you expect. What's going to happen is that men are going to stop working hard. What gave them the incentive to work hard before, was initially sex, and then having a responsibility to children and wife. As those goals become harder and harder to achieve, men are just going to quit, and just do enough to barely get by and stay alive. It's happening …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:24 AM
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Even if they did, it's still unfair for men, because they don't win enough.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:08 PM
1

They have this opinion because they don't see all the good that men do. Civilization runs on the back of low-paid men who do the construction, sanitation, military, police, firefighting etc. A century ago they needed a man for survival. Now, when things have become 'communal' with civilization, they don't witness the man providing their security everyday. So they see him as a predator. This will not change, until men refuse to provide that security, and they feel the need for those men again.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 11:49 PM
2

Well, some are better than others. For example, (I might be wrong about specific details, but you get the idea) Brazil would be better than France, where it is illegal to do a DNA test to see a child your wife gave birth to is actually yours. So it's better for a man to move to move to Brazil than France. Similarly, within the US, it's better for a man to move to Kentucky, where there is equal child custody laws and capped child support, than to move to California. That's the way we can affect t…
/r/MensRights13/11/22 06:27 PM
1

Hit them in their wallets. Men should only stay in and emigrate to countries that have fair laws. Only pay taxes and contribute to the economy of those countries. I didn't know of this parental alienation law in Brazil. But now since I know, it has become become one of the countries that I'm willing to emigrate to, pay taxes to, and contribute to the economy of, until that law stays in effect.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:49 PM
10

I'm curious. Why does this woman want to circumcise boys so much?
/r/MensRights11/11/22 02:53 PM
1

And more work, as the 80% quit working, and emigrate elsewhere to places where they can find mates.
/r/MensRights04/11/22 06:51 AM
1

What's different now is the internet. People couldn't communicate with anyone from anywhere at this speed before.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 08:26 PM
2

Here's a list of shared parenting legislation for all the states. I don't know how up to date that is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shared_parenting_legislation
/r/MensRights03/11/22 07:52 PM
1

I did not check to see if these are duplicates of ones already posted, but here's one page I know of. Fresh and Fit are not MRAs. They call themselves 'dating coaches'. But they are kind of 'red pilled'. https://linktr.ee/fffacts
/r/MensRights03/11/22 07:39 PM
10

"Then she decided she wanted to come stay in my house again even though she wasn't on the lease and the cops told me I had to let her stay there." What? Can someone explain how this can happen? What is the law behind this?
/r/MensRights03/11/22 04:25 PM
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This is why I will have children only in one of two ways. After establishing residency in Kentucky, where there is 50-50 default custody regardless of marriage. Through a surrogate.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 04:23 PM
1

What kind of army are they going to use? An all female one?
/r/MensRights03/11/22 02:40 PM
2

And do no men find any satisfaction in their work? This will probably be the best incentive to work, as long as the hours are not too long and people are treated well. Some men would work a less demanding job, buy a broken down house and a broken down boat, and fix them using the free time they have, instead of working extra long hours to buy those things new. And there are some (or many, depending of how well the ideas are received) like me who will use every trick in the book, and even undergo…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 02:23 PM
5

Retire early. Or save 2 million, (wealth above 2 million is subject to exit tax if you decide to give up US citizenship) move to a country like Thailand or Colombia, where dating is easier, taxes are less, and cost of living is lower, and open your own mechanic shop, and retire there. Depending on how pro or anti male that country is, you might even decide to have a family.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 02:05 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/rr9knp/research_finds_that_as_a_group_only_men_pay_taxes/
/r/MensRights03/11/22 01:02 PM
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Exactly! Not only does most of the monetary value of taxes goes to women (Look up the study done in New Zealand. Women are the net consumers of taxes). But also they are more in need of the services offered through taxes that are considered 'gender neutral'. For example, consider police protection. A man can provide his own protection theough physical strength or by carrying a gun. A woman doesn't have the same capability. So, in the past, she would have pair bonded with a man who will give her …
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:35 PM
3

Hell yeah! Retire in Colombia, where cost of living is low, and prostitution is legal,where there is no need to jump through hoops to have some well deserved good sex! Make sure you leave right after 2 million though. That's when the US exit tax comes in. 2 mil will be enough for you to start a good business overseas and live a comfortable life. Make sure that your hard earned money doesn't go to women who didn't earn it, through the government in the form of taxes.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:10 PM
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That's exactly how it's playing out right now, except those 20% or better guys are refusing to commit to those women and just having sex with them, mostly.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:12 AM
1

Of relevance. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yjpzua/report_campus_due_process_protections_improved/
/r/MensRights02/11/22 08:19 PM
1

I'm not that smart. Spell it out for me please. Is it the democrats who are bringing this new proposal? So to keep the 2020 regulations i should vote for the other side? Asking because the article doesn't mention any political parties.
/r/MensRights02/11/22 08:12 PM
2

So, I'm not an expert on the subject. But from the way I understand it, they do not get a 'tax cut'. They are in the same tax bracket as other wealthy people. But they use "go arounds", or loopholes. These loopholes are left in place, because otherwise they will go elsewhere. For example, suppose one of them needs 10 million dollars cash. Instead of liquidating part of his stock portfolio and paying 35% tax on it, he will take a loan using part of the stock portfolio as collateral, and pay the 1…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:54 PM
1

I heard that Thailand, Phillipines and any Central and South American country etc give good dating prospects for tall white men. But better to move over there than bring one to the US, because of US marriage laws. There are several states in the US (KY, WV etc) where there is 50-50 default child custody. But marriage would open up the possibility of alimony and lifetime alimony. Possibility of child support exists even with 50-50 custody, but in states where it is capped, it will not be so high …
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:30 PM
4

The children I understand. But why do women get a free pass? It should be 'children and caretakers'.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 08:39 PM
1

What others are there?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 06:56 PM
2

Most states do not have default 50-50 custody. I can think of two off the top of my head. Kentucky and West Virginia. Most of the other states do not have default 50-50.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:25 PM
1

Thanks for all the great work you're doing for the fathers and kids.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 06:49 PM
5

Yes. Reality is sad. Work to change it instead of living in a fairy tale until you get destroyed.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 11:00 PM
3

"Asked for custody and pushed aggressively to win it" How much trouble did they have to go through, when what's fair should have been default equal custody? What about the fathers who didn't have money or time to go to court?
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:06 PM
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The problem is once you have kids in a state that doesn't have automatic equal custody, or get married, the ball is out of your hands. Everything depends on how your wife feels like that day. She might get more by leaving you than staying with you. It's not that all women will, but any woman can. If I have children with a woman, it will be in Kentucky (automatic equal custody) and no marriage (no alimony, I'm not responsible for any children resulting from her cheating). Otherwise it's surrogacy…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 10:02 PM
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Will they pay for single men to get a surrogate? What kind of work? I'm seriously thinking of surrogacy. I'll have to save about 150k though. So if there is a work health program that offers surrogacy I might change careers.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 09:55 PM
1

The good thing about UBI is that, even if I don't get any women ecause they don't need me as a provider, I will be able to sit on my ass doing nothing. Add a sex robot and an artificial womb, and life will be perfect 👌.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:00 AM
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Yes. Universal basic income is going to make men even more unneeded than they are now.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 11:41 PM
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Yes. We should spread this message to men, and make them realize that they must stop contributing to society if they are to be important again.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 11:26 PM
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Because they don't need a man for survival anymore.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 09:33 PM
1

Ok. Thanks for giving me the answer I already had. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:29 PM
1

You did not reveal a logical flaw of my plan. Your feelings and opinion are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:12 PM
1

You can do that if you want to.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 01:19 PM
1

Me doing it is no worse than a single mother doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:14 PM
368

To all the feminists trying to brush selective service under the rug by saying it's no big deal, here are real consequences.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 03:37 PM
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The more primitive the living conditions are, the more apparent the gender differences become. Men are physically stronger and resilient to the environment. A man is better equipped than a woman to survive alone in the wild. He can go to a piece of raw land, clear it, farm it, and build a house on it with his own hands. As recently as 100 years ago men did exactly that. But what he cannot do is birth and rear children. That has been women's primary contribution to civilization. If it hasn't been…
/r/MensRights11/10/22 03:04 PM
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I posted this for other men so they can look it over and expose any flaws in it. You screeching about it just an unfortunate by-product.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:34 PM
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living independently Relying on men isn't independence.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:32 PM
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There are ways to pay less taxes legally. What you can do as an individual: You probably work a job that is taxed. But when you can, for your household, do your own work yourself instead of hiring a company. Fix your own car, fix your own house, grow your own food in your garden as much as possible instead of buying. That means the government is not going to get the sales tax. If you're good enough, become a homesteader, quit your job and sell produce at the farmers market (read 'The Urban Farme…
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:28 PM
1

I haven't looked in to it much, but a google search gave me this. https://www.ivfconceptions.com/best-countries-for-surrogacy/
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:14 PM
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Men are learning. Do not help random women for no reason. Don't simp. Good. Now if we could only extend that to finding ways to not pay taxes: because government expenditure mostly benefits women, and by paying taxes we are indirectly simping.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 12:29 PM
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https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/nyc-subway-attack-by-neon-green-clad-women/ The link is wrong. I get a video of a Russian jet being shot down or something. But copy-pasting works. EDIT: it's fixed now, thanks. They look like they dressed up to be she-hulk or something. Maybe they watched it, and tried to imitate the physical violence, and found the only target they could physically subdue.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 12:17 PM
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Women are not individualists, because they have lower physical strength. They rely on the herd for protection. Even if they do go their own way, they will be living in cities, being dependant on men who do the hard physical work for low pay. If only we could convince these men to leave the cities and just tend to their own homesteads instead of cities full of women. The wgtow groups will fall apart, and they will go to the homesteads looking for a man for survival.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 11:39 AM
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Good to know. It seems that Wisconsin does too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shared_parenting_legislation#Summary_table Let's move to these states (after considering other factors, choose the best one for you), and take our taxes, labor and talent with us.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 11:11 AM
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I've heard many good things about UAE, such as very low taxes and Muslim conservative culture suitable for a family. It would be good for married man with family. But dating and surrogacy is illegal, so not good for single men. Yeah, I think if a man can find a committed woman, and once he has a certain amount of money, emigrate there and marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:31 AM
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Legal marriage is a cold, calculating, unromantic financial contract. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:20 AM
-1

Irrelevant. No logical flaws could be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:19 AM
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" A founding mother of feminism named Betty Friedan, announced in a book published in 1963 under the title The Feminine Mystique (26,421 Goodreads ratings), that marriage is for women what the concentration camps were for the Jewish people – “ " 200 years ago a woman would marry to survive, because she needed a man for protection from nature and other humans. But now, big government gives her protection and provision for free, and has replaced the man that she would have taken.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 07:38 AM
-1

Thanks for verifying that my plan is bulletproof.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:19 AM
0

What makes you think I'm hating? It's a strategy for men to reproduce safely. I posted it for other men to look at, not for women to start screeching over. That's just an unfortunate by-product.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:11 AM
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You did not show any logical flaws in my plan. Your feelings and opinions are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:05 AM
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Once again, your opinion is completely irrelevant. A woman who wants marriage doesn't want genuine human connection. Legal marriage is a cold, calculating financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:43 AM
1

phsyciality You too.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:40 AM
1

Not everyone lifts up a artillery shell ya goof. Exactly dumb fuck. Not everyone can. That's why those who can should be paid more.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:36 AM
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Does the weight of an artillery shell change depending on who's lifting it? That's why everyone needs to have the same standards.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:31 AM
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You showed no logical flaw in my plan. Your feelings and opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:28 AM
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Literally no person could form a genuine bond with someone who has these types of thoughts Then you can understand why I cannot form a bond with woman who wants legal marriage, which is a cold, calculating financial contract. There's nothing romantic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:27 AM
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You showed no logical flaw in my plan. Your feelings and opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:24 AM
1

Why? Because men end up doing most of the work. They can consider other qualifications when deciding pay too. Consider the ASVAB (IQ) test too. Anything, as long as it is the same for everyone.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:23 AM
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You showed no logical flaw in my plan. Your feelings and opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:20 AM
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You showed no flaw in my plan, other than expressing your feelings, which are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:14 AM
0

Many will read silently. Only the bitter like you type paragraphs. If 50 men learn that they have surrogacy as an option, or it's default equal custody in KY, I won.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:55 PM
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A good woman will agree to my terms. Only a selfish golddigger will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:48 PM
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100k meant 100k people, not 100k income. And your opinion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:40 PM
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Nope. To make other men aware of the safe alternatives. I can't care less about you. This sub has more than 100k users, and I assume 50% are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:57 PM
1

Buddy.... I don't need to. If I were desperate I would be simping.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 10:53 PM
1

I wouldn't fight for them even if I were there. No man should fight for them. Let them earn it themselves, and they could actually be proud of it. If you could read you would have understood that from the OP. Source is on OP.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 10:51 PM
1

no one here is going to stop you You can't. That's the whole point of the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:39 PM
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LOL. And yet you typed this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:35 PM
1

If you can retire from the US, it's better to go there and settle there with your US retirement money than bring one here. If you bring one here, make sure that she desires you (has sex with you willingly) before coming here. Also make sure that she doesn't have much employment qualifications and also can't speak much English. Otherwise, if she did it for the green card, she will claim domestic violence and get a work permit. But if she already has had sex with you, and it is difficult for her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:27 PM
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The evidence is right in front of them. But they refuse to believe that misandry exists. Selective service is male only in the US. Men aged 18-60 were kept by force to fight in Ukraine. Yet they don't accept that misandry exists. They never will. Because it's not in their interest. Females are naturally solipsistic and there is a natural empathy gap. So unless they need us, they will not care about us. There is only one way to make men important again. Make the government smaller. Women needed a…
/r/MensRights10/10/22 10:11 PM
0

I'll have one if I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:46 PM
1

Do you say the same to single women using sperm banks? Or do you just hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:43 PM
0

Oh yes I am. A soulmate wouldn't want marriage. Marriage is a very cold, calculating, unromantic financial contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:37 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 09:35 PM
1

Or just be a sperm donor. I can make myself look like the ideal feminist on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:33 PM
1

Lol, so bitter because she's obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:21 PM
2

Apply those words to women too. This is why women should have relationships and babies without marriage. Loving a man means risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:19 PM
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Lol, yeah. Go to r/Divorce_Men and you'll see them. A real loving, caring relationship is one without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:14 PM
0

Protecting myself isn't hating women. I can have children using a surrogate, and there's nothing you can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:11 PM
0

Protecting myself isn't hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:10 PM
1

That is the only case where I will get married. And immediately divorce if she makes less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:01 PM
1

Marriage is loveless. It's a financial contract. There is no trust in it whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:00 PM
1

Discussing on the internet helped me devise this bulletproof strategy. Now I want to spread this knowledge to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:59 PM
-1

Yeah. It makes me almost want to skip the main plan and go with the backup plan. Have kids and still have sex like a king. Not be tied down like a man in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:57 PM
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Relationships can turn sour and people change over time, but can also be incredibly fulfilling This is why women should accept these terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:54 PM
1

Ha ha. It gives me such great joy when these bitter women realize that there is no way they can stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:53 PM
2

You don't have to. If you can't find one, you remain safe and hire a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:51 PM
2

This is how most guys started. Many don't even see their kids now, and pay child support, and sleep in cars because they are homeless. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:50 PM
1

No. Just looking at statistics and taking precautions. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:46 PM
2

Loving someone necessarily entails taking some risk they will hurt you This is exactly why there should be no marriage. It's the way we evolved naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:43 PM
1

Oh, OK. I'll just hire a surrogate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:41 PM
0

Oh, OK. I'll just hire a surrogate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:40 PM
1

I have things to do with my time. Many men have done it. I can do it. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:32 PM
0

Tell that to the women who don't give equal custody to men so they can get more child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:30 PM
-1

Nah, I'll just use a surrogate for kids, and go to Colombia and have orgies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:28 PM
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I don't see how these conditions take away from intimacy, or affect it whatsoever. If anything, it helps me weed out golddiggers, and only deal with women who actually have a desire towards me. The whole point of the plan is to be able to carry on with good quality of life if the relationship fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:27 PM
1

If I can find one that agrees to my terms, she will be a net positive to the relationship. Anyone else is a liability than an asset. ​ I’m still really curious what your job is that you think this is a small amount easy to achieve?? And that it has growth potential you think you will be able to afford it 10 or even 20 times! Why won’t you say? That's personally identifying information, so I'm not going to disclose that. I make about 100k currently at my day job. So I can save 150k. There is a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:58 PM
1

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-single-dads-via-surrogacy06122018-story.html ​ How would you answer the first question she's going to ask you " why are you using a surrogate?". Couples who can't have their own children no matter their sex have the answer, what's yours? I'm gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:43 PM
1

And still, surrogacy is cheaper than child support when you add up child support over a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:39 PM
6

I want to have my own biological kids. And I'm not expend any resources on anyone else's kids. That's technically being cuckolded.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:29 PM
3

I've heard some places see that as you abandoning your child, so it seems like Kentucky has made some progress. Actually, I don't know the law about this part. But if it is taken as abandoning child, then adjust accordingly, such as file for custody before leaving etc.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:27 PM
1

Whatever the answer is it applies equally to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:16 PM
1

How did the other single men do it? The same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:14 PM
7

Yes.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:13 PM
2

The steps are simple. 1. Establish residency in Kentucky. 2. Do not marry. 3. If she shows undesirable behavior file for custody and leave. The rest of the text is reasoning why.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:12 PM
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Oh dude...you are assuming that if you file for custody, not being married has ANYTHING to do with who gets the kids. I didn't really understand what you meant, but in KY 50-50 custody is the default, married or unmarried. It has to be PROVEN that you are an unfit parent to not get equal custody. It's written in the law
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:11 PM
4

That worked maybe a 100 years ago. Nowadays, violence is a no no. We have to find new methods of mate guarding.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:05 PM
5

if you have 50/50 custody But getting 50-50 custody is difficult, I think? In KY it's the default. It has to be PROVEN that you are an unfit parent to not get equal custody. It's written in the law. AFAIK no cohabitation laws in KY. There is not common law marriage in Kentucky. Even if you leave your house temporarily, if it's legally yours then she has to find another place to stay (she will get evicted) and you will get equal custody. Or just change the locks while she's away (but not be a dic…
/r/MensRights10/10/22 07:04 PM
2

Smart man. That's why he got married. This is the only case if when a man should marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:54 PM
1

If I increase income enough to make 20 kids I will have enough to pay nannies. But almost anyone can save enough to pay 150k for one kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:53 PM
1

Logic. Let's say there are 100 men and 100 women in the world. Assume all heterosexual relationships. If 5 men are partnered, they are partnered with 5 women, and there are 5 couples. 95 men and 95 women are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:49 PM
1

Single men (even non-gay) are already using surrogates. Just google it. What baggage? Even if I did have baggage, on paper I will make myself look gay, feminist or whatever else that will satisfy the surrogate. It's a business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:32 PM
1

Ones without partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:15 PM
3

Default equal custody? Damn, I didn't know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:14 PM
2

No. There's dad and grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:13 PM
1

For now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:58 PM
0

She's willing. Some women actually enjoy raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:34 PM
1

SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:31 PM
0

And I will be reproducing cheaper and safer than your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:30 PM
1

Well, if you're helping me using reverse psychology, then thanks, lol. I am a very disagreeable person according the 5 factor model of personality. Disagreement makes me want to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:26 PM
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Keep talking, lol. I will be working. Every time you say no it increases my determination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:22 PM
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Wow, you're so bitter, because you know that men don't need you anymore, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:07 PM
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I explained all this.. You're just bitter because you're obsolete, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:06 PM
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Anyone who can save 150k can afford a surrogate. For the rest, read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:05 PM
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I'm going to do this. And I'm going to put a real good feminist profile, and dress like one when I meet them too.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 05:03 PM
0

No need to pay that much for such an easy job. My mother will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:00 PM
1

She can do a job if she wants. No one is a servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:58 PM
0

Not only men. Those women are lonely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:57 PM
1

Well, I can't make 20 right now. I can definitely do at least one. But I'm posting to make other men aware, that there are alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:53 PM
1

Good. Women can get used to making their own gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:51 PM
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If they don't want access to my wallet, they can do without a unromantic legal contract (marriage ). These are very calculating golddiggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:49 PM
1

Yes. Sometimes they do it for pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:47 PM
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Women have proven not to be trustworthy in using such laws. That is why marriage rates are going down, and people like me are finding ways to bypass such laws and have children, and trying to make other men aware of these methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:45 PM
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Men are now aware of golddiggers. I made this post to show other men how to avoid golddiggers. Being a golddigger would totally work out for you/s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:42 PM
2

150k max per pregnancy in the US. Cheaper in other countries. Cheaper compared to child support according to the post i linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:39 PM
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I will be working towards it. And it will be cheaper and safer than doing it with a woman. And there is nothing you can do to stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:38 PM
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If they consider pleasing to be having access to my wallet without condition (golddigger), then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:43 PM
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I'm not here to please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:41 PM
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Same in childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:35 PM
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Same can be applied to a relationship. Dude, that's a relationship. Put out, or be OK with him getting it from somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:29 PM
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And there was a man in the local village who she would fall in love with who could protect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:26 PM
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So she’s not allowed to get sick, pregnant, injured, have debilitating periods, etc. Just like child support payers are not allowed be sick, injured etc. They have to come up with the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:24 PM
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What are some others that come to your mind? I think default equal custody should be a nationwide thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:17 PM
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Ten thousand years ago there was not alimony. That is the way it is supposed to be naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:15 PM
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Even more reason to be safe. Motorcycles will not behave unpredictably.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:12 PM
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How is she a servant when she gets equal rights and she can leave whenever she wants? You wants MORE rights and to keep the man as a servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:09 PM
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Sorry to break it to you but this level of paranoia regarding marriage will inevitably ruin the marriage. It’s really a self fulfilling prophecy. Sorry to break it to you but this level of paranoia regarding riding motorcycles will inevitably ruin the ride. It’s really a self fulfilling prophecy. Don't wear a helmet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:08 PM
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If we're talking about 'love', this is the way it is naturally supposed to be. No government. No alimony. No child support. I trust her and she trusts me. Women want men to sign contracts (marriage) because they want pay pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:06 PM
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It's good that you are speaking for yourself and not for other people's mothers, because mine already wants to. The voluntarily childless don't want to be mothers anyway, while those who were already mothers have the experience and the desire to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:00 PM
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A good strategy is to find one who can't speak English well, so she has considerable trouble finding employment and needs you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:58 PM
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I'm going to reproduce by paying a surrogate. If I make enough money I'm going to make 10 or 20 kids, and do it safely. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, besides hope that I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:48 PM
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Many of them want grandchildren and will happily take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:45 PM
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50/50 with no payments should be the starting point I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:41 PM
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If she agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:39 PM
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One more thing it should be known for is default equal custody, since 2017. More men should move there if they don't want to lose their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:38 PM
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The steps are simple. Establish residency in Kentucky. Do not marry. If she shows undesirable behavior file for custody and leave. The rest of the text is reasoning why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:37 PM
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Oh, OK. I see. Thanks for pointing that out.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 02:33 PM
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Yes, if you are OK with that. But I don't want to be a genetic dead end. I want to spread my seed like Genghis Khan. That is what I consider a win.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 02:31 PM
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I just searched this. What I found is not good. Pertaining to Florida. https://www.genetlawfirm.com/disestablishment-of-paternity "(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a court shall not set aside the paternity determination or child support order if the male engaged in the following conduct after learning that he is not the biological father of the child: ......... (c) Consented to be named as the child's biological father on the child's birth certificate;" So, if it's a married man and he signed…
/r/MensRights10/10/22 01:16 PM
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But, from the same web page, "In addition to the privity between the United States and the sponsor, the signor of an Affidavit of Support also obliges themself to the beneficiary and pledges to maintain the spouse at 125% above the federal poverty line. The current federal poverty line for a single household is $12,490, (12) and 125% of that amount results in a promise to maintain the beneficiary at an annual income of $15,612.50." That's not much. If you pick a woman with less professional qual…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:17 PM
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Damn, you are correct. I found this after searching further. "A sponsoring spouse accepts legal responsibility for financially supporting their alien spouse until they either become a United States citizen, die or are credited with 40 quarters of work (approximately 10 years). Divorce does not end that financial obligation. (7)" https://phillipsmurrah.com/2020/05/affidavit-of-support-implications-in-divorce-in-marriage-based-immigration/ It seems that the best thing to do is make a bunch of mone…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 08:03 PM
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Ah, I see what you mean. But there's a problem with practically implementing this. How do you measure attractiveness? Also, then it becomes a female specific priviledge that the men don't have. And these days you can start talking to a foreign woman before you actually visit (dating apps, instagram etc). So the amount of work required to find and bring one is less than before.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 04:24 PM
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Yes. Visit abroad, find a suitable, feminine, attractive woman, bring her here and get married. The Swedish men do it these days, rather than marry the feminist Swedish women. Just make sure to do it in a state where you get equal custody for any children and not get screwed over too much in divorce.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 04:07 PM
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Following are also options. If you want children, consider using a surrogate as a single man. When you consider added up child support, paying for a surrogate is not much more expensive. If you also desire companionship, like what the Swedish men are doing now, consider importing a feminine woman from another country. But make sure you establish residency in Kentucky first. That would ensure that you get equal child custody by default unless proven to be an unfit parent. Also vet her comprehensi…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 03:44 PM
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In addition to what u/NutsLikeMelons mentioned, If you want children, consider using a surrogate as a single man. When you consider added up child support, paying for a surrogate is not much more expensive. If you also desire companionship, like what the Swedish men are doing now, consider importing a feminine woman from another country. But make sure you establish residency in Kentucky first. That would ensure that you get equal child custody by default unless proven to be an unfit parent. Also…
/r/MensRights08/10/22 03:35 PM
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Also financial abortion / legal paternal surrender. If she's not ready to take care of a child, a woman can have an abortion, or surrender a baby to the nearest fire or police station, and the child will be put in the foster care system, no questions asked. These 'safe haven' laws were put in place to prevent infanticide. Why can't a man give up all his rights and responsibilities to a child the same way, if he's not prepared to be a father. If they say he shouldn't have had sex with her if he's…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:22 PM
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Kentucky is only one of 3 states that has default 50-50 child custody ( the court has to give father equal custody unless he is found to be an unfit parent, which is fair). Why is this not the norm in all 50 states? Selective service. Why do only males have to register? If they argue that it's not such a big deal ( it is, because they can't apply to federal jobs etc.) because there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam: if it's not such a big deal, then it's not a big deal for women to be required t…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 10:54 PM
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About 1. Is that a legal issue? Nature is sexist. Genders are different. Women are not as strong as men on average, and men can't have babies. But these are observations and the natural state of things. Not a violation of human rights. Number 2. Men are subject to violence more than women.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 02:29 PM
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They are ok with saying "I hate men", because in a civilized society they don't see how the good things that men do affect them daily. If they can even walk around without fear, it is because of police and military who do violence on behalf of their taxpayers, and it mostly benefit women, because a man is ready to do his own violence his protection. Make sure they can see the good you do. If you do not get thanked, paid or get something in return for it, do not help anyone. Find ways to pay less…
/r/MensRights04/10/22 06:09 PM
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r/Divorce_Men, r/DivorcedDads . These subs give a lot of good advice.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 01:44 PM
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"As for Sara, she never went on a second date with the man who paid the deposit. But no matter, she came out ahead. “I never heard from him again,” she said, “so I just kept the money.” Of course it didn't work out. He qualified to her instead of making her qualify to him. Goes against the red pill iron rules of Rollo Tomassi. Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas. The moment he paid, he became a beta male to her, and she lost attraction.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 03:54 PM
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Ok. Since you wrote down the numbers I see it from a statistical point of view. I guess it's up to each man to look at pros and cons of marriage and be aware of what he is stepping in to.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 11:12 PM
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Can't all that be avoided by just not getting married?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:54 PM
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Is it called rebuttal of presumed fatherhood? Does a third party have to take responsibility of the child as father for him to be released, or no? Could you give links and explain further when you have the time?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:50 PM
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Kentucky is one of the only three states where the father gets default 50-50 custody, unless he's proven to be unfit. So if you don't legally marry, Kentucky is one of the best places to have kids as man.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:43 PM
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Or just not marry legally. Avoids the whole thing from happening in the first place.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 08:21 AM
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Down votes are from other redittors, not mods. The mods did nothing. Didn't even delete your comment.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 08:19 AM
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What about the legal costs for the rebuttal if I find the kid to not be mine? In the one case that I looked at, he had to appeal and keep going after it. That's much more than the $60 that the state doesn't want to pay. Men should stay away from marriage as much as possible until at least the rebuttal process is made easier or she has to pay for the legal costs. At least don't marry legally. You can build a life project without marrying legally. There is nothing a man can get from legal marriage…
/r/MensRights02/10/22 08:14 AM
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Even if wife declares otherwise, husband is assumed to be father, unless biodad agrees to take over responsibility. Not an actual scenario. Trying to find out if I can safely marry. Doesn't look like it is different in any jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 07:37 AM
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Ok. Found a case where the husband was able to stop paying child support for a kid that is not his, without someone taking over from him. He had to go through a lot of trouble. Appealed a decision and kept going after it despite motions getting canceled. https://casetext.com/case/djg-v-feg But can't all this trouble be avoided by just not marrying, at least legally?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 02:28 AM
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Even if you prove that you're not the father, wouldn't the court say that "child's best interest comes first"? So you have to find someone else (biodad or anyone else) to willingly take over fatherhood. I looked at the law in Kentucky and I can't find anywhere they've mentioned that the husband can revoke fatherhood on his own. There needs to be someone willing to take over.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 02:21 AM
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Ok. But I'm still going to be on the hook for child support even if it's not my kid, even if I divorce her.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 01:58 AM
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If you travel within the US, "Extraditing a parent back to your state In some cases, your state can "extradite" or bring the other parent back to your state, but only if they are charged with a child support crime." I don't know what a 'child support crime' is. Maybe it depends on the amount. https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/child-support/enforcing-a-child-support-order-out-of-state.html
/r/MensRights02/10/22 01:52 AM
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"The United States has reciprocal agreements with several foreign countries for the enforcement of child support orders through the Secretary of State. Currently, the United States has treaties with Australia, Canada, Czech Republic, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal and Slovak Republic regarding the enforcement of child support orders. The United States also has similar agreements with Austria, El Salvador, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Sweden, Switzerland and…
/r/MensRights02/10/22 01:47 AM
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You'd have to find who the biodad is first, I guess. What if the wife refuses to disclose who he is (especially if she's going to get less child support from him)? But I'm not a lawyer. Waiting for a lawyer to chime in.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 01:15 AM
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"Individuals who owe over $2500 in child support are entered into the passport denial list." https://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/can-i-use-my-passport-if-i-owe-more-than-5000-in-child-support.html
/r/MensRights02/10/22 01:10 AM
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In what jurisdiction is this not true?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:53 AM
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Run away? Where?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:52 AM
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What are you going to do if they start garnishing your wages? The government will take a cut from your paycheck, like they take taxes, and the check you get is for whatever that's left.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:51 AM
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If you are married and you wife cheats on you and has someone else's kid, even if you divorce her, the government is going to come after you for child support. They are going to start garnishing from your pay check. If they still can't get enough money from you, they are going to send you to jail.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:48 AM
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The government is going to come after you for child support
/r/MensRights02/10/22 12:42 AM
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From the article text. "child support cases in which paternity is unresolved." I hope that includes married 'fathers' when the states doesn't have another person to put the responsibility of the child on. Would the paternity be 'resolved' if the guy is married when the child is born?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:49 PM
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Doesn't say anything about the case when fatherhood is already established (by marriage for example), or anything about two years. It only says anything about establishing paternity of 'alleged fathers'. Could be the case where the mother is not married and says, "that guy is the father, I want child support".
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:35 PM
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I'm sure you're not the first person to say that. You can't out-alpha the state. They have people with guns to enforce the law. If you don't pay child support they'll take you to jail, revoke all your licenses, etc. What you CAN do is, 1. Try to change the law. 2. Not marry, at least not legally. 3. Leave for somewhere else. I don't know where it's different. Saudi Arabia maybe?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:29 PM
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Ok, found a case. Michael H. v. Gerald D., 491 U.S. 110 (1989). https://www.lawmoss.com/publication-presumptions-in-paternity-cases-who-is-the-father-in-the-eyes-of-the-law But it was the biological father trying to get custody of the child from the marital father. The state of California already had someone to transfer responsibility of the child. What happens if there is no one else to take responsibility as the father? They'll just say "it's in the best interest of the child", and keep you re…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:59 PM
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Give me a book. A case history. Something. Anything.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:48 PM
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I'm not married. I'm trying to find out if I can marry safely. Given that you can't show me a link that clearly proves what you're saying, it just looks like hearsay. It doesn't look like its safe for any man to marry. How did you hear about this two year rule? Which state?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:45 PM
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Doesn't say anything about the case when fatherhood is already established (by marriage for example), or anything about two years. It only says anything about establishing paternity of 'alleged fathers'. Could be the case where the mother is not married and says, "that guy is the father, I want child support".
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:39 PM
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Can't find anything. Link? Even for another state.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:20 PM
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Link? Here's a link to the Kentucky law that mentions nothing of the sort. You have no way of rebutting it if you're married, unless someone else agrees to take over the fatherhood. https://chfs.ky.gov/agencies/dis/Documents/FAQ.docx
/r/MensRights01/10/22 09:06 PM
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if everyone agrees That's the problem. If baby daddy doesn't agree to sign (why would he?), I'll be paying child support for his kid, and he'll live happily ever after with my wife. Here's a link for the Kentucky law. https://chfs.ky.gov/agencies/dis/Documents/FAQ.docx "In Kentucky, when a woman is married at the time of the child’s birth or conception, or any time in between, the law considers her husband to be the father – even if he is not the biological father. The husband is the “presumed f…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:01 PM
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In what state is this? Do you have a link to the law. As far as I know, if you get cheated on and she has a kid, you're screwed. You are responsible for the kid, because you're married. Even if you challenge it there's nothing you can do.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 06:03 PM
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I couldn't find one. If you do let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:40 PM
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Yes. Automatic 50% applies if you're not married. Either both parents have to sign a document saying you're the father, or a court ordered DNA paternity test has to be taken. If you're married the husband becomes the father by law. The only way you can overturn this is to get someone else (the biological father if he agrees) to take over fatherhood. Yes. A normal monogamous relationship if I'm going to have children through this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:27 PM
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Move for residency in Kentucky. Kentucky is one of the 3 states where there is automatic equal child custody. Unless the father is proven to be unfit he will get 50% custody. No marriage. This is to prevent being held responsible for a child that is not possibly mine. I don't want 50% custody or to pay child support without a DNA test. The rest is regular vetting. She has to be interested in me above all other men, and must to actively and openly reject them in favor of me (I am the Alpha), and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:33 PM
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Poor guy. I saw a picture of Georgians at the border holding up a sign saying "Russian deserters are not welcome here". This guy has nowhere to go.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 12:30 AM
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I have the same plan as you. Given the state of dating and family courts today, if I meet a woman I can trust, and if she agrees to my risk mitigation steps, I would have children with her. Otherwise no. Given that I don't know if I will even meet such a woman, surrogacy is a concrete goal that I'm working towards. This guy's name is Ian Mucklejohn. He had these kids through a surrogate as a single man. See how well adjusted they look? https://youtu.be/9-RBKnqRlHU So it is possible. If ýou searc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:39 PM
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Nope. You have to convince them to enlist, not force them.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 03:40 PM
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No need to violate human rights of men by forcing them to fight. If you can convince them they will fight.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 12:52 PM
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It's not a fact. Correlation does not imply causation.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 12:22 PM
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You fight wars by violating the human rights of men.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 12:01 PM
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Well, its a reason why a man shouldn't marry. Cohabitation might be a second best case.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 11:51 AM
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Still applies. Human rights are human righs.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 11:48 AM
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Would rape depend on the situation?
/r/MensRights29/09/22 11:41 AM
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promote freedom, and human rights Forcing a person to risk their life against their will based on gender is not freedom or human rights. That is oppression.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 11:13 AM
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If you are willing to be a government enforcer to make me fight against my will, that is a potential oppressor.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 10:14 AM
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I don't think they are TRYING to force men out. It's just women being women in that gynocentric society. Female solipsism and the gender empathy gap causes them to see only female problems and not see male problems. Men SHOULD leave for greener pastures. Men pay more taxes and consume less. Also men do most of the grunt work required to sustain a society. Would you rather have a male police officer capable of subduing a male criminal, or a female police officer? If males leave, they will start n…
/r/MensRights29/09/22 10:09 AM
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Correlation does not imply causation. There are cohabiting couples who do it even though they can marry, and there are cohabiting couples who would have married but can't because of reasons like bad financial conditions etc. which in turn is going to reflect on child rearing. For an individual man, marriage is a pretty bad deal.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 09:50 AM
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I think Swedish men have the right idea though. I heard they are importing Thai women to marry instead of marrying Swedish women. It's so widespread that they are doing 'studies' about it.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 09:22 AM
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I think you have to do certain things, like file taxes together, for it to happen. Not sure though.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 08:22 AM
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The thing is, when the states/regions of Canada lose the labor, skills and taxes of men, they need to change rules to attract them. Do you want a male police officer, who actually has the strength to subdue a male criminal, or a female police officer? A civilization can't continue without men.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 08:17 AM
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What I'm saying is that I don't know which side is correct. The Ukrainians say one thing. The Russians say another thing. It's just another war, like there always have been. After this one there will be another war, for some other stupid reason. Better to directly help the men who forced to fight to get out of it.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 10:27 PM
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sins of your father. Eh? I would volunteer a bed for only a man because he is oppressed by his government. I empathize with him. And no one else is likely to welcome men.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 09:23 PM
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The point is that you are my oppressor. I'm willing to die fighting my oppressor. Not some other guy from far away who is perfectly fine leaving me alone.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 09:07 PM
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Any Canadian man affected by this should consider moving to Quebec, and take his labor, talent and taxes with him.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 08:58 PM
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Or take trips to Colombia. Legal and cheap.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 08:38 PM
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If you hide, you most likely will get left behind either intentionally or unintentionally. I do fear for the lone soldier because it rarely ends well. The deserted becomes hunted by his own government and depending on where you flee to, conscription is not a reason to qualify as a refugee. You can suffer prison or capital punishment. Depending on the dictator, they will punish your mother, your father or your siblings. This whole paragraph shows how men are oppressed, and how people like you ena…
/r/MensRights28/09/22 08:23 PM
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There is a great quote about this by sandman. It goes something like this. "Typical man excels at extracting resources from the environment, while the typical woman excels at extracting resources from society". They kind of managed to get extracting resources from the society written in to law. So they get almost everything that men used to provide from the government. The military and police provide them security. Male employees do the sanitation and construction. Women are the consumers of mos…
/r/MensRights28/09/22 08:02 PM
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I don't really care about your first paragraph. When women are forced to fight just like men, I'll start caring about it. There have always been wars, for a multitude of political reasons. Poor men have always been the ones who are forced to fight.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 07:45 PM
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If they die, will the world go on? If they lose, can they just go back to their jobs and live as they did before? Are they pushed forward to risk their lives while others hang back in safety? People who risk their lives do it for their families (children and wives). I have no children and no woman that I trust with my life. There are increasingly more men like me. Asking me to risk my life is asking too much. I'll just hide, desert and take my chances in the woods, or surrender. Who is going to …
/r/MensRights28/09/22 06:51 PM
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influx of Canadian men migrating to the US I think they should already start migrating. Specifically to Kentucky, because that's the place with the most favorable parenting laws I could find. And the men in the US should start moving to other places, and we should stop paying our taxes because those taxes don't work for us. Move to Puerto Rico for zero taxes, or work as a digital nomad and live in places like Thailand or Colombia where dating prospects are pretty good and taxes are lower.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:49 PM
9

My solution is to leave for somewhere else, and leave men like this to be the second class citizens and to bear the high tax burden. Already planning.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:30 PM
1

Maybe if the internet is active over there they could possibly organize. Maybe share strategies, like fail the physical test on purpose. Find where are the best places to hide, where the checkpoints are. Maybe forge documents. Etc.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:24 PM
1

Maybe for a volunteer army. Not for conscripts.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:17 PM
8

Can non-UK-citizens sign?
/r/MensRights28/09/22 01:59 PM
4

Where is the Title IX and affirmative action for men? (Can't get through the paywall to read the article, but I can guess the content).
/r/MensRights28/09/22 01:29 PM
1

Ok. There might be a difference when comes to estate planning. But not much difference when it comes to marriage and divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/22 01:27 PM
1

So there is no difference between 'community property states' and 'common law property states'?
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/22 01:18 PM
1

If I use the salary from my job, it is still marital funds?
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/22 01:10 PM
1

So you legally have 50-50 custody, but she manipulated the kids in to alienating you, so the kids don't want to visit you. I assume that you spent a lot of time at work to provide for your family, and kept putting off time with the kids and didn't build a relationship with them, so it was easy for her to do that. About the property division. It looks like in KY, you can keep what you bring in to the marriage, and everything you earn during marriage is split (https://www.divorcenet.com/states/ken…
/r/Divorce_Men28/09/22 12:11 PM
10

She moved the money from our joint account into an account only she can access. How did she do this without your consent?
/r/MensRights28/09/22 11:44 AM
2

Having a higher statistical likelihood of cheating is something that can be managed. For example by being always ready for it by not sharing common property, not signing a marriage contract or having a prenup, monitoring the partner for signs of infidelity etc. There are damage control steps that can be taken. Although not the ideal situation, a smart person who takes those damage control steps could still safely deal with a partner who has a high n count.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 11:21 AM
28

If that behemoth got pregnant by raping him, he would still lose custody of the kids and would have to pay child support.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 01:30 AM
1

I know and I agree. I have all 5 books of the Rational Male. The channels that you mentioned do a lot to show men the true state of things. But this is something I can do with little effort from my computer. Its not going to cost me anything, other than time.
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 11:23 PM
1

Wait so you have 50/50 custody, but you never get to see your kids? Isn't she supposed to let you see them? Also how did your wife get everything? Aren't the assets earned during marriage supposed to be split equally?
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 07:24 PM
3

I completely agree with you. Personally I have no intention of marrying. This is for activism. If you take a cross section of men, they are part of a spectrum about their opinion of marriage. Some will marry. Some will not. Some are not sure. Love goggles make people do stupid things. This is for the ones who will actually end up getting married. If they do it, they should at least do it one of the best states for it. And hopefully, they will move to these states for residency, and take there la…
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 07:06 PM
1

Thanks for the information. What are the other two states? Hopefully, if men keep moving to these states, other states will follow suit.
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 06:49 PM
2

‘Parenting time adjustment’ (PTA) refers to the adjustment that a state’s basic child support calculation employs to determine an appropriate presumptive child support transfer payment when both parents are providing housing and providing direct financial support for their children. A PTA is also sometimes referred to as a ‘parenting time offset’ or a ‘residential time credit’. There is a related pdf on this page. It has the definitions. I'm going to put that in the question text. Thanks. https:…
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 05:08 PM
3

Thanks for letting me know. That's an important point. I didn't even know that there is a child support cap in the US. I also saw your question asking how much people have paid in child support. Looking at those numbers, sometimes it may be cheaper for a male to have children by paying a surrogate.
/r/Divorce_Men27/09/22 04:59 PM
1

It's men being forced in to the meat grinder at gunpoint on both sides. War is a nasty affair where people get pushed to the limit to fight for survival. I know there is evidence for Russian war crimes, which are shown in Western media, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ukrainians did some bad things too.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 01:40 PM
1

I hope the internet is still up in Russia. Maybe they can organize and increase their chances of getting out of the country, hiding from the draft or just staying alive by surrendering. The same goes for Ukraine too. I wish there is something that we can do.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 01:21 PM
3

We've tried that and it doesn't work. Men are still the only gender that is drafted for combat. There is still no automatic equal custody in the US. The list goes on. Tit for tat works. Show them that they are not contributing equally, and rub it in their face.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 01:10 PM
12

Then women should do that fighting too. I'm not going to take a huge risk for that little of a chance, when the women and the rich men get the benefits without risking anything. No man should. I'd rather hide, or surrender at the first chance.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:15 PM
12

It's the same on both sides. Men being forced to die at gunpoint for benefits they will never personally enjoy.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:08 PM
1

Nah. You'll be no 99 and die for her. I'll be no 100 for a bunch of them and still live. If I was no 1, I would consider dying for her, and I would understand if you did too. But it's unlikely to happen nowadays. The point I have about men's rights is that men shouldn't put their lives at risk so random women can stop wearing the hijab. That point still stands.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:03 PM
1

I don't know. It means you're number 99, if you didn't understand.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:52 AM
1

Sloppy "seconds"? Most likely hundredths.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:50 AM
3

640 arrests vs 60. Women not doing enough work.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:36 AM
3

60 arrests vs 640. Women are not doing enough.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:36 AM
3

Numbers speak for themselves. 640 arrests vs 60. You got bad intentions man, trying to send men to risk their lives over a dress code.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:35 AM
2

"beaten to death if her hijab slips off". I find that hard to belive. If that is the case bunch of women would be dead already. She probably intentionally wore it wrong. And probably talked back to the morality police too, for her to be beaten. Yes it is a case of unjust police brutality. People who did that should be punished. But I wouldn't put myself at risk because a random 22 year woman rebelled against a dress code. The question I would ask any woman in my life is, if you had to pick betwe…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:31 AM
1

I just found this link. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/ "We lost five for every one of them". Don't know the actual numbers,, or the reason behind why they are willing to take that many casualties, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are throwing men to die to gain some land before the war ends.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:51 AM
14

Depends on who the oppressor is. Who is going to force me to go die at gunpoint?
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:39 AM
4

Time for Latvian men to start leaving. Stop contributing to Latvia by taking their labor away, working somewhere else and not paying Latvian taxes. While doing this try to obtain the residency/citizenship of the country they are working in.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:32 AM
4

I'm thinking of ways to possibly cheat this system. What if the man pretended fail that physical test. Like, do about 10 push-ups and say that's all I can do. What will happen then?
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:27 AM
10

Or we need to organize ourselves. Share resources for young men to hide away from the draft. Not just the US. Other countries like Ukraine and Russia too.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:18 AM
-2

Ok champ. Go die in her place. I'll replace you. I'll take very good care of her, I promise.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 09:24 AM
7

10 men got arrested for every one woman. Show a little respect.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:20 AM
1

Go ahead and die for a woman who doesn't care about you. More women for me.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:34 PM
1

Funny that I don't see any of them firing weapons in actual combat footage. I do see females in showpiece photo ops though.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 10:23 PM
9

Feminism is not needed anywhere. Egalitarianism (equal rights for everyone) is needed everywhere.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 10:13 PM
6

It's "fight for those who fight for you".
/r/MensRights26/09/22 09:55 PM
4

Well women should step up the game, because they are not doing as much as men. It's men who are doing most of the dying and getting arrested.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 08:48 PM
242

If she openly says she's a feminist I ask her to split the bill. That ends it usually. Funny. I thought feminism is about equality.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 08:24 PM
3

Approx 50% arrests would show equal solidarity and equal work. Men here should watch this, and make sure that for a common goal women do approx half the work, instead of hiding behind men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 08:03 PM
7

That women aren't showing enough solidarity. 60 arrests vs 640. Not enough.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:56 PM
7

Go up the thread and see what it's about buddy. Reading aloud might help your simpleton brain.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:52 PM
4

Not what I said. What a dumbass.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:49 PM
5

You care about everyone? Then help me tell people not to put themselves at risk uselessly for people who are not willing to fight for their own rights.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:48 PM
4

Telling men not to fight for women who don't care about them is not 'MiSoGynY'. If you were not a self-entitled misandrist, you wouldn't have a problem with me telling men to not to put their lives at risk.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:44 PM
7

You are one of them, because you say they should die for random women.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:39 PM
7

Are you trying to use shaming language to make me do what you want, like the white feather movement in WWI, and all the times men shamed in to doing violence on behalf of women? Not going to work on me. Did you even care about the hundreds of thousands of men who were drafted against their will from Ukraine and Russia and sent to their deaths? Did you speak up against it? No? How misandrist. Go fight your own fights. If you don't care about me, then I don't care about you. Our discussions here h…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:38 PM
7

The numbers speak for themselves. 640 men arrested vs 60 women. If they were fighting equally it would be approximately 350 men and 350 women.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:25 PM
3

May success and luck be on your side. Whatever you do, do it for your family who loves you, and not for random women. Please be safe.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:20 PM
2

You should use that for yourself if you're willing to die for random people who don't care about you.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:18 PM
4

Sure. Go ahead and die for people who don't care about you. More women and oxygen for me.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:11 PM
7

Always happy to piss off a feminist.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:02 PM
6

Brainwashed to think they should die for random women.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:59 PM
4

It’s good that they are though, and they’re way braver than you’ll ever be. This is what entitlement is. "Other people must risk their lives for me. Otherwise they have no value". Worse than a murderer. At least the murderers do it themselves.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:59 PM
9

Best of luck. Whatever you do, do it for your family who cares about you. Don't do it for random women who don't care about you.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:54 PM
-2

Nope. I'm just a normal person who hasn't been brainwashed to die for people who don't care about me.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:40 PM
2

I'm just going to wait for simpcels (simping to impress women without getting any) like you to die for women who don't care about you. Then it's going to be more women for me.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:36 PM
6

At least they are not going simpcel like you (simping to impress women, but not getting any anyway).
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:33 PM
1

I'm just waiting for you to die for a random woman that doesn't care about you. Then it's more women for me.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:32 PM
8

Find out how many people die, and of what gender, in the hands of the regime, and you might be able to crawl out of your brainwashing.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:27 PM
3

Same. Men shouldn't die for random people who don't care about them.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:25 PM
2

Only two woman got killed so far. At least eight men. Not a word about them being men. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/at-least-9-killed-in-iran-as-protests-over-womans-killing-by-morality-police-spread
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:24 PM
6

Opinion is same. Men got sacrificed for people who don't care. If it was a weak argument you wouldn't be forced to comment against it. You have no counter to it. Men shouldn't die for random people who don't appreciate them.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:21 PM
5

Take enough risks to get arrested as much as men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:22 PM
7

Yes. I don't want to die for random women. I'm trying to introduce the concept to other brainwashed men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:21 PM
4

The point is that 9 men got arrested for every woman. Women should contribute more.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:12 PM
9

So let's debate about it. There is no reason to censor. Put forward your arguments.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:28 PM
3

So your equal rights are selective? You only look at some places?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:18 PM
7

Bro, why? You don't like discussion?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:16 PM
9

Were you this enthusiastic against men getting drafted against their will in Ukraine?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:15 PM
5

Did the men who got drafted against their wish and got killed in Ukraine have any rights? Did you speak up for them?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:13 PM
3

Sure. If you feel valued by your society and ready to take risks for it, I can respect that. I wish you success and may luck be in your favor. You're right. We men in the West shouldn't sacrifice themselves for our societies.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:59 PM
1

Not being persuaded to die for random women is a right that men should have.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:55 PM
24

Stay safe. Don't let random women shame you in to doing stupid things. They don't care about you. Your family loves you. If you're doing anything, do it for them.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:44 PM
7

The point is that women are not especially oppressed any more than men. That is what I explained. If you're too stupid to understand that, this conversation is over, and I'll take it that you're conceding your position.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:33 PM
3

I'm not a men's rights activist. I just mind my business.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:29 PM
3

Reciprocation is a thing.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:24 PM
0

Stop being a simpcel. (Simping in the hopes of getting laid, but being used and not getting laid anyway). Did you care about the millions of men who got drafted against their wish in Ukraine?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:22 PM
7

Go look at feminist subs too. One big difference. There are no opposing viewpoints. It's their own echo chamber. They wouldn't even let you post an opposing viewpoint like this sub does.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:20 PM
26

Arrested not died. But your point still stands.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:15 PM
13

You seem to be a tradcon. Your point of view fair some time ago. But now, men just end up being used. We should adjust with the times. If you can make the government stay out of people's lives, being a tradcon might mean something again.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:13 PM
14

Ok dude, millions of men in Ukraine got drafted, and many died. Do you think they deserved women's support?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:08 PM
6

Men in Iran have compulsory military service, and they die in job sites. So it's very relevant.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 03:04 PM
4

As long as you hold men and women to the same standards, I'm fine with that.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:57 PM
6

I have to ask you the same question. Current protests are described as 'for women's rights', fyi. No knowledge of current affairs? Those who are fighting against the regime should have started a long time ago.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:56 PM
-4

Immediate family, I agree. But others, no. Don't get used men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:51 PM
1

Lol
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:40 PM
7

Seeing that it's coming from a feminist, I'll take that as a compliment.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:31 PM
3

Do you think the men who got drafted against their wish and killed in Ukraine needed help? Why didn't you help them.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:27 PM
8

Change the subject? I just explained how men were helping women throughout history, not oppressing them . That is VERY relevant to the subject. And don't make me responsible for some guy in Iran killing a woman.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:23 PM
11

Actual simpcel mindset. (Simping in the hopes of getting laid, but getting used and not getting laid anyway).
/r/MensRights26/09/22 02:21 PM
9

The men who got drafted and died in wars were oppressing women? The men who die in the workplace everyday are oppressing women? There are more important things to do than fighting for a dress code.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:57 PM
34

Except no one will ever speaks for men. No one spoke for the men who got drafted in Ukraine and got killed. No one speaks for men who commit suicide after divorce etc. So change that paragraph like this. No one came for the men who got drafted in Ukraine. Now, men who know that don't want to go help the women in Iran.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:51 PM
-21

So if they don't have daughters they should mind their own business, instead of risking themselves for random women.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:46 PM
16

Minding my own business is not oppressing people. Women in Iran have a chance to achieve something and be proud of it. They should do it themselves instead of doing it on the back of men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:31 PM
4

If it cannot be measured, it doesn't physically exist. So it doesn't mean anything. It's just something they made up to look like victims.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:27 PM
-5

You realize that the west was like this a long time ago, right? Then the men took risks to provide a safe environmentso they can have their freedoms. That safety is why feminism even exists.. Now we are not needed anymore. We have been replaced by the government. There is no empathy for men, so it's time to discard us. That is why feminists are mostly anti-male. When it comes to female-specific rights, if we let these proud queens earn their own right, by dying and going to jail for it instead o…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:25 PM
8

Good luck friend. I hope you and your family achieve your rights and freedoms, while being safe. Also, putting yourself in danger to protect your family is one thing. But don't put yourself at risk for random women. They don't care about you.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:06 PM
24

Well, if those men are fighting for their rights against an oppressive regime, that is something I can admire. But fighting for women's rights specifically is just stupid. They will just be used and discarded, like drafted men who got killed in Ukraine.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:55 AM
10

Yes. There are women who are not feminists. I've realized that no one cares about my problems as a man. So I'm going to mind my own business.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:52 AM
30

Yes, I agree. That is possible.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:48 AM
259

No one will speak about the men who will get killed, tortured and arrested. There will be no gratitude. They will be used and discarded.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:47 AM
18

Sure. You go ahead buddy. I'll be minding my own business. The only thing I'm willing to risk violence for is the protection of what's inside my own property line.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:46 AM
16

These are protests. I think everyone that protest for this cause is liable to be arrested. But men are taking the center stage, taking risks and getting arrested. I don't see feminists helping men in the obvious issues that men have. Why should we help them? They should fight for their own rights.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:44 AM
1

Yes. He has no rights to the child. He is a random person. The biomother can take a restraining order against him, and send him to jail if he continues to contact the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:24 AM
1

Yes, I think that is simpler and makes sense. It's this other redditor who wants an option to keep extracting financial resources from him. I wonder why. That kind of unfair financial extraction was the reason why the concept of financial abortion was invented. But looks like she's trying to find a way to keep that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:57 AM
85

They do not appreciate good men, until they NEED good men. So stop being a good man. It doesn't being be a bad man. Just stop caring. Stop helping people, especially females. See one with a broken down car on the side of the road? Leave her. See one trying to showel snow off her car? Let her do it herself. Stop being good men. Stop volunteering. Mind your own business. Only help people who help you back. They want to play hardball? Two can play that game. Then they will start needing good men, a…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 12:07 AM
1

Bunch of false allegations can be avoided if the woman was not given the option to profit from it. Or if she DOES have the option to profit from it, and if he fights in court and wins, she should have to pay him the money (child support with interest) that he would have had to pay if he was found to be guilty. That's her deterrent that stops her from making false allegations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 10:25 PM
1

Financial gain is what she's after. So she's going to pursue him and file false reports so she can get the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 10:18 PM
1

Why not jail as a punishment instead? That way biomother doesn't have an incentive to go stick the kid in his face just so she can collect child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:59 PM
1

..and is there any reason why bio mother just can't get a restraining order?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:50 PM
1

The mother in question has an incentive to get the estranged father involved, because she's going to get child support with interest. It's going to be like the NFL players flushing condoms after sex or Drake putting hot sauce in it. Or modern women being incentives to file for divorce. Women are going to go hunting for their estranged baby daddys, "Hey come talk to your kid! He/she wants to talk to you!", when what they actually want is back child support with interest, lol. But sure. Do it. Jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:35 PM
2

Nah, that's making it too complicated. They have no rights remember. As far as law is concerned this is just a random person. They have no rights to the child. The mother can get a restraining order if necessary, and he will go to jail. That is fair and enough punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:10 PM
0

About 150k for surrogacy. 15k will get you a nose job. Not much else. And after spending money on hair transplant, effort for the gym, and everything else, a relationship with a woman is still not guaranteed. Even if he succeeded, there's the high probability of divorce (about 50% for first marriages). A lifetime of paying alimony and child support will add up to more than that. Just pay 150k for surrogacy and none of those risks or headaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:33 PM
0

Could be. Up to individual man to decide. He can also buy eggs from such a woman and use another woman as a surrogate. But the more the idea spreads and becomes normal, the lower the prices will be, because of higher availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:26 PM
11

Then letting women give up children for adoption is also a bad idea, right? Because the child will always be curious about who the mother is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:22 PM
5

'As an adult' is the key phrase here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:20 PM
1

But has higher rate success. Depends on individual circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:15 PM
2

Yes. Sex or romantic relationships is not the only way to happiness. Learning. Being good at something. Making money. These are all other ways of being happy. Family is another way to be happy. He can pay a surrogate and have his own biological children. Skip dating and go straight to reproduction. Raising his children will be a joy. And he can keep spreading his seed like Genghis Khan, depending on how much money he can make. And he can also be proud of hacking the human body, and avoiding the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:05 PM
2

Why spend all that money and effort when success is not certain? He can pay a surrogate and have his own biological children. Skip dating and go straight to reproduction. That's another path to happiness. I hope he is considering that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:59 PM
2

Wow. Taxpayer money, right? Another reason for men to find ways to not pay taxes. Our taxes do not benefit us.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 06:11 PM
1

Is this in the US? $12k was given only to female and trans people?
/r/MensRights25/09/22 06:05 PM
1

Nope. Different is not equal. I'm already out. Just discussing and educating other men. They will learn and decide. This is how a male soldier should react, until he gets out. Don't work any more than a female soldier. For example, if he's unloading a truck with a female soldier, make sure that he's only doing half the work. While unloading, even if he's capable of working faster and lifting more, adjust speed to match the female, and lift no more than the female lifts. End up doing half the wor…
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:56 PM
1

Nope. Different PT standards. Not equal work.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:43 PM
1

Different PT standards. There's that word DIFFERENT. The definition of the word is 'not equal.' Idiot.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:35 PM
1

There's no need for all that moaning that you did. It's very simple. Equal pay for equal work. Source: Former US Army airborne.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:30 PM
2

They seem to call him a deadbeat too many times for it to qualify as legal advice. If it's legal advice the language should be neutral.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 09:19 PM
15

Force that honor on women too, like it's forced on men.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 07:50 PM
5

This is government discrimination. If you are a male in this country, consider finding ways to not pay taxes (work as a digital nomad, emigrate somewhere else) and also consider not contribute your services as volunteer firefighter, military etc. This government does not work for you.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 06:40 PM
1

Not as big as your ego to expect people will pay to look at your ugly obese ass on onlyfans.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:01 AM
0

Google "spinning plates, rational male". You'll find out there are other more effective ways than simping to get out of your inceldom.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 03:50 PM
0

You give off such massive simp vibes it's not even subtle. Stop simping so hard to impress her. You're not going to get laid doing that. Start spinning plates. It works.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 03:09 PM
1

We have to do activism for things to be legally equal (gender neutral selective service, automatic 50-50 child custody etc). But there is a thing called the empathy gap. People, including other men, have trouble having empathy for men. So activism isn't enough. We have to use a BOTH the carrot and the stick. We also have to stop contributing to society until things get better for us. Men pay most of the taxes, but women get most of the benefits from taxes. Governments have used taxes to replace …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:58 PM
2

There's nothing weird with someone who wants to protect their wealth. Men are indoctrinated to think that they need to gift an expensive engagement ring, and then get on their knees and propose, and then pay for a huge wedding. You don't find that weird? If it was long ago when the average unmarried woman was a virgin it kind of makes sense. Now the average woman has a body count of like 14 guys, and some of those guys are still in their contact list on social media, and 50% of the first marriag…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:43 AM
5

That's ok. I'll find another one. They are like you. Dime a dozen.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:34 AM
3

Technically, I can buy myself jewelry and loan it out to her.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:31 AM
0

It's for me, as an investment. But if things get a little serious she gets to wear it as long as she is my gf, if she has to legally give it back.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 09:05 PM
5

Yes
/r/MensRights18/09/22 07:08 PM
5

Hey you brought her up in this conversation, not me.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 07:06 PM
5

How many times do I have to explain this to these idiots. I'm buying it for me, as an investment, not her. If she gets to wear it for a short time that's a priviledge. If she doesn't want to, I'll keep it in my safe.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 07:05 PM
4

Did you just call your daughter a shallow ho? Anyway, I'll kill two birds with one stone if I can.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:47 PM
6

No
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:45 PM
2

Yes
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:27 PM
25

This is the future, whether we like it or not. Then eventually artificial wombs.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:26 PM
3

Yes.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:24 PM
6

Yes, as long as she likes me, and shows it by not requiring a financial contract (marriage).
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:22 PM
-1

So lump gold is cheaper than jewelry? That means price of jewelry is gold + workmanship. If I can also sell later it for the price of gold + workmanship, no reason not to buy jewelry.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:16 PM
-1

If there is no difference then I'll buy jewelry.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:12 PM
8

My wealth is for my children. Not for women with entitlement complexes who think they deserve it.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:10 PM
4

Don't care.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:03 PM
11

You would date a woman who is dating other men at the same time, without getting sex from from her? You just pay for her dinner and do her household work for her, while she's having sex with other men?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:02 PM
7

Why not? Could be cheaper considering alimony, child support etc. No risk of losing custody, etc.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:59 PM
-2

Why not jewelry? It costs more?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:57 PM
9

Wow. The empathy gap is real.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:55 PM
2

So it's the same as buying a lump of gold of same weight?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:54 PM
2

Yes. If there is one.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:53 PM
1

How about jewelry that is just made of gold? I assume that is the price of gold + workmanship? So isn't it the same as buying gold?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:51 PM
2

As long as I don't have to work too hard or spend much money to get sex. But would not have children with her or commit to her.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:46 PM
7

What makes you think I'm waiting for the next girl? Because I'm not financially investing in her?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:44 PM
3

Not my problem.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:43 PM
12

With anyone as long as it is reciprocated.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:33 PM
6

See what I mean about the notion of women being entitled to men's wealth?
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:31 PM
4

Investment primarily. Her getting to wear it is a bonus for her, if she wants it.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:31 PM
1

Monogamous
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:30 PM
3

Up to her, not me. Or I can keep in the safe.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:28 PM
14

Yes
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:24 PM
2

Yes. I'm buying the jewelry for me, not her. Wearing it is a privilege she gets as long as she's my girlfriend.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:19 PM
8

Meh, not me. Google it. It's a thing.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:18 PM
16

Bro, Google it.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 05:15 PM
4

I'm buying it for myself. If I let her wear them, even with a contract, that is an act of respect itself. It means I trust her to not lose it or damage it, and allow her to use it as a beauty accessory.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 04:40 PM
81

He can use this money to have a biological child by paying a surrogate. Instead of using the surrogates eggs, buy an egg from a woman with physical characteristics that he likes. No risk of losing custody, alimony or child support. Skip the dating and go straight to reproduction. Then keep dating multiple women. There is no one to tie him down.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 03:52 PM
17

No. I'm using the jewelry as an investment. Why I choose jewelry is not important. Also, why is it my fault that she is deciding to have sex with me to be able to wear the jewelry? She is an adult that is taking a decision.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 03:31 PM
11

Well, yeah. But this is an alternative to gifting them jewelry. She gets to wear it only as long as she is with me. When she leaves the next gf gets it.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 03:23 PM
40

Damn, thanks for the answer. Looks like this sub is better for men than legal advice and financial advice.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 03:21 PM
1

A woman who wants an unfair government financial contract (marriage). If she loves me she will just be with me. That's how families were for hundreds of thousands of years before the modern governments happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:03 PM
0

Until I find a woman who doesn't look at relationships from a financial/resource viewpoint (good indication is a woman who doesn't want a marriage contract), I'm not putting my love goggles on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:25 PM
2

It's a femcel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:53 PM
4

On behalf of men everywhere, thank you. Give em hell.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 10:19 PM
6

This is why you don't sign a marriage contract. Once you sign, she is entitled to be financially provided by you, but she is not held responsible for giving you sex or keeping you happy in any other way. You are just a plowhorse. Don't sign these unfair contracts. Keep the option to leave when she doesn't do the bare minimum to keep you happy.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:14 PM
1

Loading trucks in the military isn't like loading trucks at Walmart. There are no loading docks warehouses or forklifts in the middle of the jungle. Also AFAIK walmart or Amazon employees don't have two different physical standards for males and females.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 09:58 PM
1

The problem is that the pursuit of happiness is not producing results. So I don't see how whining about men not contributing to society is going to help. They are doing what's logical. They are voting for their interests, checking out or leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:54 PM
1

Assumptions, assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:54 PM
1

The problem is that all the controls that reinforced good family values (religion, danger that made it necessary for a woman to keep a man for protection etc. ) is all gone. So the males are learning the TRP and doing what's individually good for them instead of the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:26 PM
4

You know what's dark? In Ukraine men 18-60 are legally blocked from leaving the country. How many of them died? That is the same thing that will happen in the US in case of a big war that treatens its existance. Even the feminists, who say they are for equality, don't want to acknowledge that it is sexist. Men will be thrown in to the meat grinder, and it's their duty, so don't expect anything in return. THAT is dark.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 01:18 PM
13

They will not see the good of men until they NEED us to do good, when we let it all go to hell and start minding our own business. Do not protect society. Protect only your property line. If a woman wants to be protected she needs to come in there by giving you something in return. Find ways to stop paying taxes (vote for parties that tax less, emigrate to other less taxed countries, loopholes etc.). Taxes overwhelmingly benefit women. They take care of the female need to be provided and protect…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 10:56 PM
2

Yup. Post deleted by mods. This shows which sub allows more open discussion.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 07:39 AM
1

Then allow in weaker men, who can pass the female cutoff. No need to gender discriminate.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 05:04 AM
3

Whatever that's equal for both. Let's say take the average.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 12:17 AM
8

Found the simp.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 12:05 AM
1

I mean, have you considered that the men who don't qualify are potentially worse at throwing than these women? Some men suck at throwing, some women are great at it, that's why these averages matter. Because we don't want just any male getting in, so why is it surprising that some women might be able to outperform some men? It's not. All of this of what you wrote is the reason why there should be gender neutral standards. Test for the ability to do the job, and that ability only.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 12:01 AM
5

you would lose a lot of great tech and engineers to Standardized gender neutral fitness tests You already lost a lot of great tech and engineers: The males who would have made the female cutoff, but couldn't get in because of the stricter male cutoff.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 11:54 PM
3

You only needed a large enough flat surface and a stopwatch for the APFT. For the ACFT: hex bars for deadlift, bumper plates adding up to at least 340 lb, 10lb medicine balls, weight sleds, kettlebells, cones, engineer tape, measuring tape, stopwatches, pull up bars (before the leg-tuck got replaced by the plank), among other things. I don't doubt its effectiveness though. For each component they gave an example movement which would be used in combat or work. Except for the plank, which they rep…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 11:37 PM
2

Lol. You won the internet today sir. At least in my mind.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 11:14 PM
1

If you are in the military you are all bums who live off my hard earned taxes. Not anymore. But sure. Let's abolish taxes. I'm libertarian myself. None of these guys are doing any actual heavy lifting themselves Ever loaded/unloaded a truck, or fixed a truck? Last I checked a woman could shoot someone dead just the same as a man. What an idiot. This is why you need to pay taxes and let someone else do the fighting for you. The actual shooting part is small compared to the rest. Moving equipment …
/r/MensRights09/09/22 11:12 PM
1

Then why don't we do morning walks and yoga instead of doing timed runs. And why can't the fitness test be gender neutral all the same? For us in the Army, there is no need to do intense physical exercise just to stay healthy. We had more people getting injured BECAUSE of physical training than lack of physical training. Some people would get fatigue injuries on knees, ankles or hips and get med-boarded out. VA is paying their disability. I don't know what the statistics say though. Also I was i…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 10:51 PM
3

If cost effectiveness was the goal the Army would have kept the APFT. Someone in the Army had common sense and TRIED to introduce a gender neutral, objective, job oriented fitness test with the ACFT. But the welfare queens won.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 10:08 PM
2

lol
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:59 PM
8

Agree with all. As far as gender discrimination? Good luck with that. Your best bet to make change happen, would be to find a compelling argument as to why women need to have higher pt standards, and if they can fight that, then the next fight you need to have is to lower the male standard to its female equivalent. Either way this will fuck up mission readiness, if too many female marines fail a higher pt standard, they can't deploy, if males are held to a lower standard, it will cause unexpecte…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:58 PM
3

So you agree that standards, including physical, should be based on job, not gender?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:38 PM
5

Equity? Is that the kind of equality where some people are more equal than others? “ All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ” - A quote from 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell But seriously, do you mean equality of opportunity or equality of outcome? Equality of opportunity is good. Equality of outcome is not. That's anti-productive. If they was born biologically disadvantaged at doing something it's not someone else's fault, or theirs. There are things that person can d…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:35 PM
4

I'm going to read the other comments and pick a way to make my vote count the most. But I'm definitely not going to vote for the Dems. I heard 2/3 of student loans debt is female. I didn't even take student loans and now they're going to make me pay for someone else's student loan.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:21 PM
3

how big or strong someone needs to be in order to shoot a gun, throw a grenade, I see you've never attended military training where you have to throw grenades. It's part of the US Army basic training. I wasn't aware of this before, but during the grenade throw I became aware of how horribly ineffective the average female is in throwing stuff far away. It's a well known thing. Let's just say that if our base was in danger of being overrun and females were not issued grenades I'd be happier, for e…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:15 PM
2

They can use equipment effectively, grenades, I see you've never attended military training where you have to throw grenades. It's part of the US Army basic training. I wasn't aware of this before, but during the grenade throw I became aware of how horribly ineffective the average female is in throwing stuff far away. It's a well known thing. Let's just say that if our base was in danger of being overrun and females were not issued grenades I'd be happier, for everyone's safety, because of my pe…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 09:09 PM
4

At least they have the same standards on paper. That's good. They have all these common sense ideas in special operations forces. The rest of the military is like 50 years behind, too busy being a welfare check for the incompetent.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:43 PM
9

I was ONE of the reasons why I left. I should have made that clear. they can’t lug a 50 pound piece of equipment around like you can. Exactly. And I got tired of doing that for the same pay as people who can't.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:37 PM
3

Then for all the jobs where objective evaluation of strength is not important, they shouldn't exclude the weaker males. They can make important contributions too. All bodies are different. It shouldn't be based on gender. That is the definition of gender discrimination. https://www.eeoc.gov/sex-based-discrimination
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:27 PM
6

The word incel doesn't have a meaning anymore. The origin was involuntary celebate, who are actually mostly harmless people who don't get laid because of disabilities, autism, etc. Then it changed to violent people who do mass shootings because they don't get laid. Now, everyone feminists don't like is an incel. They even call Andrew Tate an incel. A guy who has a webcam business. Imagine that. And do you think we're stupid enough to tell this men's rights stuff to the women we date?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 08:18 PM
11

Do they have the same standards for women in the Royal Marines?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 05:08 PM
1

I got extra pay for being airborne. If anyone applies for harder duties and don't get extra pay, that's their decision and responsibility. I know that applies to any male joining the military also. That's why I'm trying to spread awareness.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 05:04 PM
5

The answer to that problem is to stop rapes by increasing efforts against it and punishing rapists. If you want people to get paid more so they will join and get raped, you are part of the problem. Too late cuck. I got my GI bill and got out.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:54 PM
5

Well, you signed the contract. Did you at least get a bonus? At least you'll get free training and better job prospects when you leave.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:26 PM
41

Well, that's not equal at all.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:16 PM
8

If that's the case they would tell you to walk everyday and do yoga instead of doing timed runs. There is no need to do that intense of physical exercise just to stay healthy. We had more people getting injured BECAUSE of physical training than lack of physical training. Some people would get fatigue injuries on knees, ankles or hips and get med-boarded out. VA is paying their disability.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:13 PM
74

Pretty much. It doesn't help that there's a bunch of horny men willing to stand on their head if they think they'll have a remote chance of getting laid with a girl. There's something called a SHARP program where they give you classes about how to not sexually assault people. It's ok if that's the only thing. But now they are trying to make you their guardians. They want you to look at what kind of chads she hooks up with in bars, watch for red flags and prevent her from doing something stupid, …
/r/MensRights09/09/22 03:55 PM
77

Men should leave the physical jobs. Even the non physical jobs, because even there, there are implied gender quotas and turning out to be sexist against men. Major reason I'm trying to make my own business and be self employed.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 02:24 PM
68

The gender empathy gap.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:42 PM
22

What is the purpose of measuring fitness at all, if fitness is not relevant to job performance? If it is related, the test should be relevant to the job, I agree about that. That was the intention behind the introduction of the ACFT, but it changed because too many women failed.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:36 PM
50

Equity? Is that the kind of equality where some people are more equal than others? “ All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ” - A quote from 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:19 PM
109

Same. One reason why I left active duty.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:16 PM
1

I assume Land of Po means Poland, lol.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:11 PM
139

It's funny that I submitted the same question to AskFeminists, and it needs moderator approval even before they post it, lol.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:06 PM
1

That dude is going to get kicked out if he doesn't improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:55 PM
1

It is the requirements for the job that should be measured. If men are so unfit you shouldn't have a problem passing the same requirements that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:53 PM
1

That's why they make people lift things in the fitness test. If an artillery shell weighs 100 lb, and the person lifts 100 lb, they can lift an artillery shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:48 PM
1

Is the weight of an artillery shell going to adjust for the gender that's lifting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:46 PM
1

Is the weight of an artillery shell going to adjust for the gender that's lifting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:45 PM
1

That's not gender neutral. Gender neutral means the same number of push-ups, or running the same distance in the same time. Also, why categorize by gender? Why not by height or eye color?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:38 PM
2

There is no reason to give special exceptions to any category. Why don't we categorize by height then? Why not by eye color, or hair color? What about gender makes it necessary to categorize by that? Also, combat is gender neutral. Does an artillery shell weigh less if a female is lifting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:25 PM
4

You're making no sense. Does an artillery shell weigh less if a female is lifting it? Why a different fitness standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:14 PM
8

If a woman truly loves a man, that love wouldn't be conditional on him signing a financial agreement (marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:59 AM
1

Which country is that? I like no alimony. American men should move there. Belongings in half regardless of who earned it? Or only belongings earned during marriage? Suppose wife had a house before marriage, and both parties saved $100,000 during marriage. Does she get to keep house + $50,000? Or does she have to split the house too?
/r/MensRights08/09/22 04:03 PM
2

What Jack should do, is to not spend too much money or time on dates with Abby, keep flirting with other women, and if Abby doesn't get sexual with him within a reasonable amount of time, put Abby lower on the list and put other women higher on the list, and start dating the other women. He shouldn't be a cuckold who takes care of Abby's other needs and not get sex while the fwb guy does none of that and gets sex. Be low investment and have multiple options until the other side shows willingness…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:23 PM
3

No need to feel sorry bud. I'm having a lot of fun.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:43 PM
1

Says the golddigger
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:12 PM
2

Alimony is for the wife. Child support is for the children.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 09:45 AM
2

But you lost your job too. Did they take that in to consideration? What state? Did you have to pay alimony? Child support? How much custody did you get? Trying to find out how accurate these maps are. https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nationalparentsorg/viz/2019SharedParentingReportCardMap/SPMAP https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nationalparentsorg/viz/NPOChildSupportandSharedParentingReportCard/Dashboard1 https://www.custodyxchange.com/topics/research/dads-custody-time-2018.php
/r/MensRights07/09/22 11:46 PM
1

I looked at these three maps. https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nationalparentsorg/viz/2019SharedParentingReportCardMap/SPMAP https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/nationalparentsorg/viz/NPOChildSupportandSharedParentingReportCard/Dashboard1 https://www.custodyxchange.com/topics/research/dads-custody-time-2018.php Map 1 rates Arkansas an A for shared parenting. Map 2 rates F for shared parenting and child support. Map 3 says dads only get 28.1% custody time. So just looking at your case, m…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 11:13 PM
7

Well I would never be in a situation of alimony to begin with because I don't believe in marriage Smart man. And congratulations on finding a gf loves you for you without needing a financial contract.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:02 PM
5

You would stay and financially provide, while not getting sex?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:45 PM
1

I agree with the concept. But a small technical difference. A half life equation is of the form y = A exp(-t/T) form , where in this case A = $1000 and T = -5/ln(1/2) = 7.21347520444. So after 2.5 months it would be $707.11 etc. But close enough.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:33 PM
4

Nope. I'm just going to leave. There's nothing there for me.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:24 PM
3

When adultery is illegal. When adultery is not illegal, no. Because if she withholds sex I can fuck someone else.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:23 PM
2

What's so unhealthy about it bud?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:19 PM
9

Sure. Then I am under no obligation to provide my partner with finances.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:19 PM
2

Damn, that sounds really backwards. Which state is this, so the rest of the men can avoid it?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 08:49 PM
0

Make sure that adultery is not a crime in your state, and that it's not going to affect divorce. Then just find someone else to have sex with. Or if you're a man, just take a trip to Colombia once in a while of you can't find someone else (Prostitution is legal and cheap).
/r/MensRights07/09/22 06:12 PM
2

Did you have to pay alimony? Did the fact that she worked until having the baby, and then refused to work even though she had qualifications and experience, have any effect at all?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:24 PM
4

Do you mean, the man could be doing the most house work and the earning too?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:12 PM
8

I think the counter to that is to keep accountability of spending on joint finances.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:21 PM
3

You know what, I've changed my view. I think as long as adultery is not a crime and or doesn't affect divorce proceedings, and alimony subtracts housekeeping and food prep expenses and is temporary, dating costs shouldn't be subtracted from alimony. Because if one person gets sexually neglected they can find a lover. If the other person files divorce then they separate and life goes on. Then, no one can use alimony or child support as punishment for cheating, especially if they were the ones who…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:07 PM
1

You know what, I've changed my view. I think as long as adultery is not a crime and or doesn't affect divorce proceedings, and alimony subtract housekeeping and food prep expenses and is temporary, neglect in the bedroom doesn't have a meaning. Because if one person gets neglected they can find a lover. If the other person files divorce then they separate and life goes on. Then, no one can use alimony or child support as punishment for cheating if they were the ones who caused cheating by withho…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:05 PM
2

I was going to add dating costs, but as long as adultery is not considered a crime or affect anything in divorce (like it mostly is the case now) I think this is fair. If one person doesn't give sex, the other person can find a lover, and that will not be criminal.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 03:53 PM
10

Then don't become a SAHP. Either don't get married, or keep working.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 02:34 PM
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That's why alimony shouldn't exist. Also that's why marriage is a bad contract for the higher earner. There are financial responsibilities, but no guaranteed rewards for those responsibilities. I'm just making people aware so that they refuse to sign unfair contracts (marriage).
/r/MensRights07/09/22 02:28 PM
3

Yes. This is why financial alimony shouldn't exist. Everything else should be considered including neglect in the bedroom.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 01:52 PM
1

Also, the number of unmarried childless women is projected to increase. Some of them might decide to take a shot at getting paid by surrogacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:29 PM
18

Looking at these incidents, I'm going to stay away from marriage, and be very careful in interactions with the opposite sex. I'm seriously considering surrogacy as a way of having children.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 12:25 PM
7

If alimony is paid during transition then it's only fair that the other party continues to provide house cleaning and sex too. Otherwise the financial expenses for a house cleaner, nanny and dating should be considered when calculating alimony.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 12:21 PM
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I agree with this actually, if there is no no-fault divorce. Infidelity should be punished ( maybe financially ). If there one perso who wants out of the marriage without giving a reason they waive any right to alimony or might have to pay the other party alimony. In the case of no-fault divorce, I'm against alimony.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 12:19 PM
1

Women also consume more welfare. There is a study from NZ that shows that men are the net tax payers, and women are the net tax consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:46 AM
0

What is government specifically doing to force men to not date? Nothing. But some time ago, a woman needed a man as a provider and protector. Now the governments have taken over these functions, so men are not needed as mates. This might be the reason why unwanted men have right wing political views that promote less government (as described in the research shown in this article). Also, men's efforts to increase their dating eligibility (high salary jobs, consumerism, etc.) helps the government …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:12 PM
0

Yes. Either that, or we cut off all interactions altogether, including financial support (alimony).
/r/MensRights06/09/22 09:05 PM
2

Because alimony only considers the financial aspect. The person who earned more is remains financially responsible for the other person. Why does this not apply to house cleaning, childcare, sex, etc.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 08:50 PM
1

Maybe he thought there was no reason to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:26 PM
1

I do not know if he had to tell his job that he got arrested. Seems off Probably because he couldn't show up to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:12 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:22 PM
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But having things like roads, electricity, and fire departments is good regardless of gender or relationship status Maybe finding a mate is more important to them than these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:16 PM
2

I don’t even know what you mean by "contributing to society?" It's a quote from what I initially wrote. ​ How does some random dude deciding to stop working hurt me? Less people doing the male dominant jobs, such as garbage collectors, mechanics, military, police, firefighters etc. Also the government can't collect taxes from their salaries. ​ He’s the one who suffers if he just drops out. He'll just collect welfare, or work in a low wage job that doesn't demand much time or effort. He's not get…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:14 PM
2

If you want to keep them contributing to society....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:52 PM
1

with a decent standard of living I think this is the game changer. I think men can live in less civilized places than women.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:51 PM
0

What do you think of finding ways to pay less taxes (voting for less taxes, working overseas etc.) or leaving for another place where the government doesn't interfere much.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:32 PM
2

Isn't that slavery? Especially if you want them to keep contributing to the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:23 PM
9

Location can increase chances. For example, white men have a higher chance in countries like Philippines, Thailand, etc. There are also some countries where prostitution is legal (Colombia). There are also countries with less taxes. If they are paying high taxes, and what they are getting in return for that is not worth much to them, they can leave. No one is entitled to anything. But they can take steps to increase their chances, including voting, and leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:17 PM
10

What if what they are getting wasn't that important to them, compared to having a decent chance at mating? If this is the case would you be OK with them stopping the contributions to the country that they are in and leaving for somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:38 PM
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Well, they get education, healthcare, the rule of law, pensions, unemployment benefit, roads, street lighting, freedom of speech, and the ability to choose their careers, etc. just like everyone else. If these things are not that important to them, and sex mattered more to them (not talking about getting a government issued woman, but a decent chance of being seen as a mate) would you be OK with them stopping the contributions to the country that they are in and leaving for somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:34 PM
2

Yes.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:23 PM
3

what’s their motive for it? To prevent him from leaving after finding out that she was cheating. When I searched, penalties for false accusations of domestic violence were very small. This is because of the notion that penalties for false accusations might discourage actual victims from reporting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:22 PM
1

About 25 mandatory arrest states. About 5 pro-arrest states. Very likely this could have happened. Need money to sue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:50 PM
2

When someone claims you hit them, ask for proof of the injury It didn't matter. He got arrested and lost his job anyway. You can avoid all this though by not getting with someone with a drug habit in the first place though Could non-drug-addicts also make false accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:41 PM
1

Well, the question was, how would you have avoided the whole situation before all this happened. But thanks for the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:31 PM
1

My personal solution is to not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:02 PM
1

I have the same view as you about marriage. I want to have kids, so I'm looking at surrogacy. It looks like this is the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:41 PM
2

This is why I stay away from other people's kids. I don't even talk to them if parents are not present, and keep a distance and don't even smile at kids.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:38 PM
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So the concept of "big d**k energy" is true? Anyway, the men getting laid less or zero times have a vote too. They are free to exercise it as they see fit. If you want to keep them contributing to society when they get nothing out of it is like slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:33 PM
1

Could a non=drug-addict also make a false domestic violence claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:26 PM
3

https://leg.mt.gov/content/Committees/Interim/2017-2018/Law-and-Justice/Meetings/July-2018/Exhibits/LJIC-July16-2018-Ex30.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:24 PM
0

Would a non=drug-addict still falsely accuse you and cause the same thing to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:58 PM
9

What would you look for as indicators?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:45 PM
2

A smart man would use surrogates to have children, and date high n count women non-commitally and use them for child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:22 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:29 AM
1

Women like you make me laugh, because you want to leach off a man so bad, but can't find one because men are on to your plan. Surrogacy is a better option for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:27 AM
1

how anti female the laws used to be. Alimony and child support are not even new or modern concepts. The men were literally financially responsible for the women. They kept that aspect of the marriage (kept alimony and child support) , but enabled no fault divorce and made adultery legal. So the man got all the responsibilities but no authority. Responsibility without authority is slavery. A man should be free do decide whether he wants a dependent under these conditions. These days many don't. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:54 AM
1

Yeah, this is how you program a man in to being a woman's pay pig. Some women want to find ways to live off men, but still want to call themselves independent, lol. I should have the freedom to make sure that I don't pay any of my exes. And my solution is to not marry. And many men are choosing that route. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:28 AM
1

Biological children
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:06 AM
-1

If you are talking about my comment about taxes, all political parties tax people. How else would I have worded that question?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:46 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:13 PM
1

The rest of the world: https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/ Surrogacy is the best way forward for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:27 PM
1

Less and less. We are sharing stories and stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:17 PM
1

One more reason for surrogacy.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 02:14 PM
1

An example of the resources and laws getting misused. We as men should find ways to not contribute to the economy of such countries, in taxes or labor/talent. Either find ways to not pay tax or move somewhere else.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 02:14 PM
1

It's funny that women say that marriage is bad for them, and then beg for someone to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:06 PM
1

Already answered multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:00 PM
3

Mom can have one week and dad can have one week. Both parents should work for their own sustenance. That is equal and fair. You're trying to make excuses so women can keep unfairly getting most custody.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:57 PM
1

If I can find a woman who will agree to no marriage I'll do it.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:38 PM
3

I'm thinking of paying a surrogate.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 01:12 PM
8

Fight? Shouldn't the custody be automatically 50-50, unless he willingly gives it up or is a convicted criminal?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:37 PM
1

Biological children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:05 PM
1

Could be your daughter's womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:00 PM
1

Prenup already explained. Going in circles. You must be bitter that your womb is not needed anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:59 AM
0

You are just bitter because your womb is not needed anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:52 AM
1

Nope. Your bias is very apparent. Misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:48 AM
1

Well maybe that you know already, that you would hate a potential wife. That's a woman who hypothetically took my children away. It's OK to hate such a woman, just like it's OK for you to hate a man who beat you. Anyone who manipulates someone else to sign an unfair contract for the purpose of extracting resources is parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:42 AM
1

I have answered all of those points. You're going in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:39 AM
1

I'm not talking about rights. I'm talking about your paranoia about "being taken advantage of women" as it pertains to women. Honestly, that excuse is really just a thin veneer barely hiding your misogyny. Me protecting myself is not misogyny. You seem to think that men should exist to serve women. That shows your misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:37 AM
1

What hate are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:27 AM
1

I have an idea. Your bias is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:25 AM
1

Nope. It very much matters if you think single heterosexual men should have the same rights these other people have. Your bias is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:58 AM
0

Men pay more alimony to women than women to men. Women also overwhelmingly marry men who earn more than them, making sure that they get alimony in divorce. Even if she was earning more than the man, there is no guarantee that she will keep earning more. She might decide to become a stay at home mom after having children. No marriage is simpler. The two people stay together as long as they want to. This is my ideal relationship type. But still, if there are children and the couple splits up, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:53 AM
1

I told her my plan. She is free to not contribute if she doesn't want to. But she is so enthusiastic about grandchildren that she probably will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:44 AM
1

maid/childminder/therapist/chef pig to you. I don't need those services. I do most of them myself. Business interaction with a surrogate is fair and straightforward, and something that I agreed to. I don't care about paying a surrogate because I don't hate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:38 AM
1

What is the danger? Already explained above. Also here is an example. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/x4n6qs/my_wife_lied_to_police_and_had_me_arrested_then/ ​ I'm not looking for anyone to pay me anything other than my employer. Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:30 AM
1

For the man, less risky than divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:26 AM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:08 AM
1

Nope. Less riskier and costlier than a divorce, especially considering the peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:49 PM
0

Doesn't hurt to educate the ones that don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:30 PM
0

Sure. I'm just letting other men know about the options they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:25 PM
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