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Metajackdonovan/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:06 AM
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Excellent.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 07:47 AM
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True, but in the other direction.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 07:45 AM
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I shit you not. She actually said that, pretty much verbatim. She was that foolish. I was shocked. I've dealt with a handful of television/radio people and generally they are far less honest and far slimier. The girl was an intern who didn't know what she was doing. Believe what you want.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 07:28 AM
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People always ask me what I know about women, as a homo. I say, "I know what they say to each other when heterosexual men aren't around." If you ever want to fall in love with a woman, you should never look behind that curtain. If most homosexual men didn't have such a love/hate/daddy issues problem with other men, they'd probably all be misogynists.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:43 AM
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If anyone wants to go after her in a post, and I thought about doing it myself, it's pretty rich that she lives in a 2.1 Million dollar house, and is Second Lady of California. Someone should tell her to "check her privilege." Her father is an investment banker, and billionaire Tom Siebel is in her family tree. They all live in CA. She went to Stanford. Her husband is former SF mayor and current Lt. Governor of California. His career was and still is partially bankrolled by one of the Gettys. Sh…
/r/MensRights13/07/13 02:45 AM
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Thanks for reading the book. I'm glad you got something out of it. Changing your beliefs is going to cost you friends. There's no way around that. The positive challenge is in finding new friends who you actually have something in common with. I've gotten to a point where I won't waste my time with new people unless they seem like they are within a certain range of thinking. My time is precious. Also, it's always good to look for friends who are good at something you want to learn, or who are li…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/13 05:14 AM
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Who will fight ze Nazis now?
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 05:00 PM
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Hahahahaha. But you were doing such a good job!
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 04:54 PM
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Okeydokey. You really told me!
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 06:34 AM
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Hilarious.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 03:16 AM
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Sounds like a plan.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 03:14 AM
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OK, folks. I'm going to call it. I have an episode of The Walking Dead to catch up on, and an early in time for work tomorrow. Thank you for all of your respectful questions. If you're interested in my work, please like my author page on Facebook to keep up with relevant links and news. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jack-Donovan/125037104227038 To learn more about my book, The Way of Men, go here: http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/books/the-way-of-men/
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:43 AM
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I've been reading about masculinity, specifically for several years, and I cite particularly useful books routinely. A few are recommended on an Amazon tab on the right hand side of my web site at http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/. Some favorites off the top of my head are: Sun and Steel - Yukio Mishima, Hagakure, Honor, A History - James Bowman, The Sea Wolf - Jack London, Demonic Males, Shop Class as Soulcraft, The Wanting Seed, The Iliad
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:39 AM
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Who are men supposed to become, emotionally, anyway? Is it better to be more like women? I agree that modernity offers no path -- or far too few paths -- for men to "man up" in a genuine way. I agree that they have to come up with fake signifiers of masculinity as substitutes for real masculine accomplishments, beyond "I got a job and made some money." I don't blame modern men for this. I blame the system that prevents them from stepping into a legitimately masculine role. I think you are overpl…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:32 AM
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Feminism is about doing away with sex roles, so it proscribes no role for men except as compliant partners in the empowerment of women. To be a little crass, I might simply say that I think women should be the compliant partners in the empowerment of men -- as they always have been. The bottom line is that men and women are different. Women don't have to have political power to be valued. When they do have political power (as a group, not necessarily as individual female rulers) they will, over …
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:19 AM
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Well, I've kind of been down that road before, and I don't want to get into coordinating meetups and so-forth. Also, a lot of guys with conflicting views probably like The Way of Men, so I don't know how productive that would be. I live in a pretty liberal city, too. No matter what, there are men there who share some of the same ideas and attitudes. My advice would be to look for something you like to do, which also attracts a lot more men than women. You could also always set something up for y…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:11 AM
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Yes, I start studying this weekend and should be certified in 4 months or so. I would live to open a shop sooner or later, but I may also try to get a job working for another shop. I'm sure I'll post about it.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 01:33 AM
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I have several friends in the military, and I often ask them for their thoughts on my work. One LT/infantry who served in Afghanistan was involved with reading early drafts of The Way of Men. (Actually, another military reader just sent a copy of his own book to me this morning. http://www.amazon.com/Breakfast-Dirt-Cult-Samuel-Finlay/dp/0615622992) I don't write books to prove how manly I am. I write books to talk about men and manliness in a truthful, pro-masculine way, which is something that …
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:54 PM
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That's a point I made in my first book, Androphilia. As with most recurring aspects of human nature, effeminacy is probably part nature and part nurture. A lot of homosexual men are, admittedly, effeminate. Camille Paglia used to say that she thought it correlated with an artistic or sensitive nature. That's often the case, but not always. It's a valid stereotype, and like any valid stereotype, it becomes culturally reinforced. I've long promoted the idea that it doesn't have to be that way, tha…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:23 PM
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Thank you.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:16 PM
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To elaborate, I think the long-term success of these groups of men on the Internet will depend on their ability to become viable subcultures offline, and to translate talk into action.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:14 PM
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Well, that's the modern dilemma. Feminism produces plenty of whores, but they aren't necessarily the kind of women you'd want to marry or trust for very long. A woman with more traditional values might be more loyal and make a better mother, but she may not let you put it in her butt.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:12 PM
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Personally, I support Israel's ethno-nationalist policies. I think they should be allowed to maintain their ethno-nationalist state, if they are able to do so on their own, without endless foreign support and intervention.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:04 PM
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No, I'm just not taking you seriously, because you're obviously an hysteric/crackpot. Jesus, the KKK hasn't been relevant in decades.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:02 PM
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I'm hoping that sometime within the next 10 years, the totalitarians in our bureaucracy will overstep and undermine their own authority, forcing men who want to be free to start seeing themselves as something other than Americans. I like the idea of pan-secession, promoted by Keith Preston and others at http://attackthesystem.com/. Pan-secessionism is for everyone -- and America, and the world, and especially men, would be better off if we self-selected into smaller more culturally homogenous gr…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 08:00 PM
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Ha! Good luck with that, man. I'm probably not the best guy to give you advice on finding a good woman. It does seem like moving to a part of the country that has more traditional values would be a good bet. Feminism is everywhere, but sex roles are a little more normal -- and women are sometimes more womanly -- outside of major metro areas.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:52 PM
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I don't think Hitler was really very good looking, if that's what you mean.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:37 PM
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What is this holocaust thing? I'm drawing a blank. I was born in 1974, so I don't know too much about WWII. Pls provide a link.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:34 PM
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Just saw this. Repost the question in the main thread (see below) and I'll try to get it answered.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:21 PM
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Does a group that wishes to gain power in the world need to have some transcendent ideals motivating it? Clearly not. Criminal gangs are a perfect example. Some have an ideology or worldview, some don't. Many don't demand much more than loyalty. A main point in The Way of Men was that men align first, at least in the pre-modern world, world to assert their collective interests. These don't necessarily have to be high-minded. "We want money, glory, and bitches" is sometimes enough. "We hate group…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:13 PM
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My answer to the other half of your question is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/195vzr/jack_donovan_ask_me_anything/c8lgde2
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:59 PM
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Cool. I was thinking just the other day that men need to reclaim that form. It was theirs to begin with. It comes from storytelling around the fire --- remembering important stories in verse.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:56 PM
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This is going to sound a little SWPL, but the important work of the manosphere is "raising awareness." The "cell" model is the only model that works as an effective counter to bourgeois modernity. Ask "the terrorists." Spread ideas that offer alternatives and counterarguments to feminist modernity. Publish books, publish comic books, make music, make art, make films, make YouTube videos. Create alternative media to filter out and comment on mainstream news. Create viable countercultures with pat…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:54 PM
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The following essay explains my views on White Nationalism and other race-based movements. I also think it's one of my better short pieces. http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/12/mighty-white/ The cover of The Way of Men features skeletons instead of Vikings or Roman soldiers because I realize that to challenge the creeping emasculation of modern globalism, groups of men all over the world will have to become increasingly tribal. Men will "gang up" along many lines, and race is one of them. I …
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:45 PM
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Not in the same way. European countries have national cultures and identities that are hundreds, often thousands of years old. They have deep roots. America is an immigrant nation. I grew up in Pennsylvania, which is the size of many European countries, but there is no strong "Pennsylvanian" identity. American culture is too new, too much of a mish-mash. If America breaks into pieces, those pieces will eventually develop distinct cultures. That's what I hope happens. America is too big and too d…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:28 PM
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I agree completely.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:47 AM
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Like many young people I was a progressive/liberal, so I thought technology was going to keep making life better and better, and everyone was going to be freer and freer. Now I think the opposite is happening. Technology is making many things worse, and while people cheer about superficial freedoms like gay marriage and smoking pot, we are losing more meaningful freedoms and options every day.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 07:19 AM
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Some of the ideas are good, but I don't see a vision of the future there that men are going to get excited about. It's not an ideology so much as it is just "opting out" of the female-oriented system. Also, the logo they use is unfortunate. It looks like it's giving directions to a gay bar.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:55 AM
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Thanks. Men's Rights Activists and the New Right are responding to problems with feminism. However, for any "Men's Rights" movement to gain traction politically, it's going to have to kowtow to enough feminist ideas to be deemed "safe" for feminists in the media and politics. So, in essence, it's going to have to be a feminist movement, not a patriarchal movement. The occasional politician may show sympathy for men who are harmed by the injustices of the feminist system (from false rape accusati…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:52 AM
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Maybe insofar as they may eventually produce a violent, patriarchal reaction. However, in the big picture there are many problems with depending on that theory. In female-oriented societies like America and Europe, women can afford to have sex with masculine men, and then settle down and breed with less masculine men. We also imprison a lot of masculine men, pulling them out of the gene pool. It's dysgenic, but serves the short-term needs of women. Then there are the chemicals that lower testost…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:33 AM
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Better than homosexual liberals generally treat men with right-wing views.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:23 AM
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The anti-tribalist/anti-racist hysteria promoted by the progressive media is too convenient for wealthy elites. They are, for the most part, protected from the negative consequences of the "melting pot." The wealthy can afford security, and they can afford to live wherever they like, and they can afford to send their children to whatever schools they prefer. The representatives from other groups that they and their families interact with most are often going to be very well socialized or very su…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:21 AM
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Actually I just came across an article on motherboard linking testosterone and more masculine faces to "racism," which is one kind of tribalism. http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/ironically-a-mans-face-can-tell-you-if-hes-likely-to-act-like-a-racist So there's more verification that masculinity and tribalism are linked.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 06:01 AM
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Good to be back home on my own computer again. I was in Washington hanging out with Max Inappropriate and Bronan the Barbarian, and I quickly realized that I wasn't going to be able to give you folks good answers until I was back in my office.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 05:52 AM
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Pale ales and IPAs. Deschutes Brewery makes a "white IPA" called Chainbreaker that I drink often.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 05:49 AM
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Exactly, mayonesa.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 05:43 AM
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If you follow this link and buy the e-book through e-junkie, you get a zip file that includes a pdf. http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2012/03/the-way-of-men-masculinity-explained/
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 02:35 AM
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Some good questions here. Keep them coming. I have to apologize, but something came up and I'm going to have to log out for a few hours. However, I'm going to try to answer the majority of questions asked in the next 24 hours.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 02:20 AM
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I enjoyed Runaway Horses, which deals with some of the same themes. But, where Mishima is concerned, I am more interested in the man than the work, because his life was a work of art. Poetry with a splash of blood.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 02:15 AM
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Correct. I only have 15-20 female Facebook friends. I write about creating men's only spaces, where men can speak without censoring themselves for women. If I can't say no, and set boundaries, why should they listen to me?
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 02:03 AM
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Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 02:00 AM
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I'm going to think about that and respond later. Readers here should know that I'm not ignoring any questions, but I may have to get back to them on questions that require longer answers. I'm at a friend's house right now and it's a little hard to concentrate.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:59 AM
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Absolutely true. Men need to focus on building friendships with the men near them. I've written about starting private gyms, but that's just one idea. Men need to find ways to get around our "co-ed" system and connect in ways that matter.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:54 AM
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When I was younger, I had certain expectations for America. After the last few years, I don't feel like I can see very far into the future at all. I can imagine what I would like for the West, but who knows how things will play out.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:48 AM
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Thanks for sharing the book. That's the way it seems to be getting around, and it's exactly the way it should be getting around. Passed on from man to man. It's humbling for me, actually. You listed a bunch of different groups there, so each one will have its own trajectory.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:44 AM
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Here's hoping.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:39 AM
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A friend of mine said that the problem with "men's rights" as a movement is that people tend to assume that if men don't take something, they don't deserve it.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:37 AM
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I keep it in check with alcohol.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:32 AM
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I started studying masculinity and men several years ago. It's not that something is wrong with men. It's that masculinity and modernity are in conflict. Masculinity and feminism are mutually exclusive. A system that supports feminism must denigrate men and masculinity.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:31 AM
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Not familiar.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/13 01:25 AM
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