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| 121 | CMV: Most debate on manosphere subs is just lonely dudes trying to "out-alpha" each other with their philosophies | CMV | jacknagy93 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 04:06 AM |
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| 1 | Would you date a girl with a very promiscuous past?To clarify, it's not that I think OP is missing out and therefore I think he should agree. It's more that I note that it is an obvious phenomenon that many people themselves come to the conclusion later in life that they've missed out, and go through a crisis trying to reclaim their youth and sexual prime. Similarly, no person is static! I've never scored less than top 5th percentile in introversion on any Big 5 / MBTI / etc test I've ever taken. If you asked 15 year old me if I'd ever enjoy fes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Would you date a girl with a very promiscuous past?I think this would be more applicable advice to OP than me, lol. I get to have the best of both worlds with a very happy ENM relationship. My point is moreso... Okay, OP seems fairly sex negative now and may not want those experiences now. But given the immense amount of people who reach middle age or marriage and wish they'd sexually explored more... I think OP would be wise to think to himself "okay, I don't vibe with sex positivity NOW, but I'm not going to write off this philosophy as immora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Would you date a girl with a very promiscuous past?Over the long term, nothing but causal hookups makes people absolutely miserable You can find literally thousands of posts on Reddit from people saying they feel they've missed out on casual sex and hookups. I've never been jealous of it, and never will. Being this certain is a very good indicator that you are quite young, and fairly likely to be wrong in the end. Sex is also a lot more fun within a committed relationship than a causal hook up. Both are incredibly fun in their own way, and you c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:14 PM |
| 0 | Would you date a girl with a very promiscuous past?You do you, man. You should know that a cost of being sex negative is that you're gonna miss out on a ton of fun and uninhibited experiences (threesomes, festival hookups, etc) that you risk later becoming jealous or envious of. This will happen directly (those immediate experiences don't present themselves to you) and indirectly (your social circle will slowly become full of inhibited people who don't go do much really fun, wild shit). Just a heads up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 01:57 PM |
| 11 | To avoid being a "starter wife" or "forever girlfriend," this is the best dating strategy for women:So, expect 700% less chivalry. I'm sure women en masse would be devastated by the prospect of receiving 700% less chivalry from NoMarriageNoKids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/21 11:33 AM |
| 7 | In younger people, has number of instagram followers become relevant to hypergamy?The hottest girls I know tens to be either full Insta influencer sorts, OR completely private profile trying to avoid harrassment and employment checking them. I don't know any really conventional attractive girl who just kind of casually has it but doesn't use it extensively, to my knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Not really, but you'd definitely want to be in the gym at 7am (or 6pm after work) and running a heavily-supersetted bodybuilding split for an hour each day. It'd be hard to get there with a more general strength program. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 08:16 PM |
| 3 | How many men actually prefer monogamy?Okay, all good man, fair enough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 06:04 AM |
| 5 | How many men actually prefer monogamy?Yeah I think "I could have many women but only want one" is largely a coping mechanism from guys on here. Guys who have a realistic chance at simultaneously dating multiple women they consider attractive, without it disintegrating their life.... tend to strongly consider it at the very least. This is almost obviously true, as well - given how many men cheat for just one other woman despite massive risk, it would be ASTONISHING if the men who could do even better were suddenly more closed off to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 05:53 AM |
| 2 | How many men actually prefer monogamy?Idk, you sound like you're trying to convince yourself of something more than you're trying to convince me. You vaguely listed "parts of a relationship" that you'd miss out on if sleeping with other women, so I listed many parts of my relationship I find satisfying and some specific examples of what I think good romance is like, to try and get some clarity from you. By "parts of a relationship", did you ONLY mean sexual exclusivity? Or is there something else you think I'm missing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 05:45 AM |
| 0 | How many men actually prefer monogamy?I have a wonderful relationship with a girlfriend I've lived with for ~4 years, and we enjoy all the regular monogamous intimacies - deep love and expressions of romance, planning futures together, joint travel, sharing each others' successes and failures, caring for each other when sick, etc. Her last birthday present to me was a poem-based treasure hunt around our city, culminating in a choose your own adventure game that selected my exact 'prize'. My last birthday present to her was a rolepla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I liked 5/3/1s structure but the rate of progression was far too slow for most trainees, I think, and advanced trainees need more volume. I don't really get U/L and PPL as far as strength programming goes. Obviously they work fine, but I don't see why you wouldn't run more full body workouts each day (a la the SBS 5 day splits) to improve set quality and let you fit more good quality compound exercises in. But yeah for hypertrophy where you're more oriented around sets to failure etc and have mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Evans doesn't have an incredibly impressive body and I think you're misremembering it. He looks, frankly, like a good athlete or very entry level natural bodybuilder in the offseason. The vast majority of men could get exactly the same results as me with the same level of effort. It's just that most men don't put in a lot of effort or train very intelligently or even close to consistently. Whenever I walk in to my uni gym, I don't see dozens of guys squatting and benching heavy (for them) all th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Again, it's really not. You don't get many trainees apply enough effort or discipline to get to a high level, but that doesn't imply that everyone who does simply had good genes. Indeed, I'd argue the opposite in my case - I am constantly learning more and reorganising my programming, to a far higher degree than many other trainees around me, precisely because I feel I'm playing catch-up to those with better genetics who can just run any split and get results. What does your programming look lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 06:36 AM |
| 0 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?4-5 years of 6 hours a week working out to build is thousands of hours. Over thousands of days, what's your point? You may as well claim I've dedicated my life to Reddit by that logic lmao Not to mention if your diet isn't correct you won't have those type of gains at all. Not really - if you're not gaining weight, just eat more, and muscle will come. You could get to his level of muscularity eating only takeout for 5 years lol. Protein and carbs aren't hard to come by. You'd only need a decent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I would say that 4-5 years is more than enough for any trainee to achieve about a 120kg bench which looks about right for Evans' chest size, his most developed feature. Honestly a simple majority of trainees could probably do that in 3 years at a powerlifting gym. Also shredded down? Evans isn't particularly lean in CA. He looks to be about 12% or so (faint abs showing in regular lighting) which is normal athletic levels of lean, and they just use some movie magic to make him look even better. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?My genetics seem fairly average judging by my relative results in a competitive strength sport (armwrestling); I gain specific strengths about as fast as the median trainee, neither exceptional nor poor. I think you're just underestimating how far you can get naturally, because you haven't trained some combo of (hard, smart, long) enough to get somewhere significant yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 01:07 AM |
| 6 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I guess this depends on your perspective of what "gym being your life" is. 1 hour a day for a hard workout, 6 days a week, will get you tons of volume if you're smart (and bodybuilding particularly lends itself to supersetting etc). That's not too bad. And no, you absolutely don't need 1 cheat day a month to get to Evans level lol. He's maybe 12% bodyfat; I've gotten close to that eating Maccas 2x a week still, while cutting for competition and regularly having bad sleep. Honestly if you turn an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Oh, Evans definitely took steroids to get there so quickly. That's not at all the same as the idea his body can't be achieved naturally too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Also if they claim their physique was achieved through "Chicken, Broccoli and Rice, 3 hours in the gym 7 days a week" I take that as code for anabolics Why? If someone could achieve a great body naturally, that's pretty much exactly how they'd do it. It feels like you may have an unfalsifiable theory here: If they say their diet and gym etc were perfect, you assume that's code for steroids If they say their diet and gym etc were lax, you'd just say "then why do you get way better results than ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I have a similar looking body at only about 7-8kg lighter (so about 5kg of muscle lighter) and: I don't really do any bodybuilding style training I take about 12 weeks off per year from gym I have takeout 3-4 times a week Having never touched steroids etc because I'd also like to get back into mountaineering and don't want to fuck with my heart. It is absolutely believable to me that I could have Evans' body and weight if I fixed those variables and gave ~3 years for everything to catch up. Peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 04:51 PM |
| 7 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Yes and no. Yes - most actors with similar bodies will be on PEDs as it makes the process vastly easier and quicker. No - it's nowhere close to impossible to attain and retain a body like Evans', naturally. Any trainee could get there with a very good (and high calorie) diet, and 4-5 disciplined years of high quality lifting at high intensity. Evans isn't even particularly low fat in Captain America... he's maybe 12%? Shadow of abs in regular lighting with some movie magic and lighting and angle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Women’s interests and Hobbies.I'm delighted that the person who randomly and painfully started trying to humblebrag about reading "high literature"... ... is now... anti-snobbery? Okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Women’s interests and Hobbies.I don't think you're faking per se. You're just clearly the "omg I'm such a nerd because I like Pokemon" type of the literary world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 12:25 PM |
| 7 | Women’s interests and Hobbies.and also enjoy reading high literature. Ever read "One hundred years of solitude"? It's pretty good, I recommend it. Lol. One Hundred Years is a fantastic book, but it's also incredibly popular for a "classic". There are thousands upon thousands of middle aged women reading it right alongside Eat Pray Love and The Secret, such is its mainstream allure. Citing that book as your "see look I read classics!" (out of nowhere btw, just a a completely irrelevant reference) is actually a pretty good sig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 07:54 AM |
| 10 | If woman want to be treated better in dating and relationships, they need to incentivize it.If all your LTRs are bad then you're bad at LTRs. That's nobody else's problem but yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/21 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Question for men: Do you take the time to prioritize your partners orgasm, even if that means continuing to work on them after you’ve already finished?Your comment about variety being needed in sex is absolutely true, but I've never found it necessary to extend that to timing of orgasm. There are so many other means of variety available (positions, tempo, location, dirty talk, number of participants...) for people to explore that I find it hard to imagine that any sufficiently creative couple would need to explore a guy finishing first to avoid a drop in engagement. And given that a guy finishing first tends to immediately reduce your availabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 08:29 AM |
| -2 | The average man is not doing bad with the average woman when it comes to sex.If you think that is a remotely representative anecdote for critique of self-report data en masse, then I'm not sure you even know enough about data to critique how it's collected lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."Maybe just I''m out of touch now, but "multiple threesomes" isn't that big an achievement these days with sex positivity and online dating. There are god knows how many mediocre dudes having regular threesomes through Tinder, open relationships, swinger clubs, etc. I would say that FFFM foursome occupies the rarified status that FFM threesome used to, and of course it still matters how high quality partners you're pulling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Women are way more guilty of the things they accuse men of than men are.Sounds like you don't have a personality that has attracted good women in your life. I feel exactly the same about my female friends I have zero sexual urge towards - lovely, intelligent, fun people. It's not a libido thing, man. It's about your own mental hangups and whether you attract other valuable people to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Women are way more guilty of the things they accuse men of than men are.If the majority of the women in your life are viciously unpleasant, what does that say about your attractiveness and value? The majority of women in my life are fun, relaxed, intelligent people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 06:36 AM |
| 4 | Modern women have unrealistic expectations of modern men.A lot of your post is hilarious but I particularly want to focus on: I mean the western world has literally went to war and took brides from opposing countries for centuries. Why are there so many mixed people in the world? Because of western guys. If you think that international conquest & pillage is even mostly a Western phenomenon then hoooollly shit have you never picked up a history text. Japan, China, Mongolia, Byzantines, god knows how many Muslim Arab empires... I mean, the list of other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 07:00 AM |
| 3 | Once a very intelligent woman said this to meIt's all relative. If OP occupies a social circle where this is considered intelligent, then he's probably not overly intelligent himself, which explains why he thought "hurr men will always deadlift more" was a remotely good point in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manThird time saying it now. Attractive profile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manLiterally the opposite lol. I explicitly said that if you're getting harshly tested on height, you probably don't have an attractive profile. Can you read? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manThe average guy does just fine with women, though. They don't get an exceptional sex life or amazing relationships or model women... but they get laid and start families and have a number of partners over their life. You can literally go to any shopping mall and look around and you'll see hundreds of perfectly average couples. So not notable that you probably ignore them unless you're looking, but they're the majority of human dating. By far. Guys on here who consider themselves or others litera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:46 AM |
| 3 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manI'm gonna let you work on the basics of understanding human conversation while I go do something else man, all the best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:13 AM |
| 7 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average man... You have to be joking lol When the OP puts "average man" in the thread title of a comic, and someone responds saying the comic doesn't reflect the average man... Do you actually not see the conversational relevance? This is bizarre | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:00 AM |
| 0 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manI'm 5'10" and have the best dating of my life right now. I also don't get asked for my height on apps at all. If you're getting tested and rejected for being 5'11" on apps, I bet either something is directly wrong (your photos make you look short somehow) or you just don't have an attractive profile anyway and they're asking "weeding out" questions. But I simply don't get that question, even from girls I match with who have height "requirements" in their bio | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:55 PM |
| 10 | Women wouldn't last a week as an average manThe title of this thread is literally that women wouldn't last as an average man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:52 PM |
| 12 | To what extent can a man become more attractive by working out?Of course you will get better gains on steroids even as a newbie. How would that mechanism even work? Still doesn't mean it's a smart or healthy idea, but there's no point where hopping on steroids won't add some muscular benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 03:09 AM |
| 8 | Do most women prefer to share their attractive male partner rather than to settle with average or below average partner?Uh, it is by definition. You're thinking of open relationships, not poly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 06:22 PM |
| 13 | CMV: When young women have it harder in life, men have an easier time dating them.Easy to say that from behind your keyboard mate, but frankly I don't believe you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 01:52 PM |
| 5 | CMV: no one is sexually attracted to money, accomplishments or intelligence.I really admire how you took your own speculation as evidence for your logic. Literally conjuring it from thin air. Very gutsy play from any kind of respectable standpoint, but I like the courage! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 12:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men shouldn’t take dating advice from women online at all, until they consider what type of women they want to attractYou don't like Tinder, on the basis that it's "just pictures" and not meeting in person... ... while you're recommending Asian romance webtoons. ... Do you see the flaw here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 03:51 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men shouldn’t take dating advice from women online at all, until they consider what type of women they want to attractRomance literature is aimed at people who are either unable to attract others and are desperately lonely... or those who are in a long term relationship where the romance has died out. I don't want to attract either of those types of people, and I don't know why you'd want to specialise in attracting them. Most women, even those who have been single for an unusual length of time, don't read romance literature. I would say a much better way of capturing the info you're after would be to look at w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 04:33 AM |
| 17 | CMV: Men shouldn’t take dating advice from women online at all, until they consider what type of women they want to attractI actually can't believe he's serious No, reading Asian romance webtoons is not a good way to figure out what appeals to women, because most women have no idea what the fuck a webtoon even is. The same choices and traits that would lead someone to spend their time reading obscure romance cartoons are exactly the same traits that make them a really poorly representative sample. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/21 11:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There isn’t someone for everyone.Additionally, your brain will tend to rise or lower your standards compared to what's possible. If you haven't seen a girl in 6 months, a girl who you'd have rated as 4/10 attractiveness a while ago might genuinely strike you as a 7/10. Sure, intellectually you might know she's not conventionally attractive. But she'll sure as hell feel like she is and inspire the same reactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/21 11:13 AM |
| 2 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyIf you're 5'6" and eliminating 5'8" women for incompatibility, because someone is 2 inches taller... ... that restriction is completely on you, dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 12:24 PM |
| 3 | Women are the "wild" gender nowI wasn't being literate about it at all, and you know it. I specifically addressed guys who haven't been laid for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 07:07 AM |
| 10 | Women are the "wild" gender nowIncel = involuntarily celibate. If you are asexual, or voluntarily celibate, then of course the term doesn't apply to you. But you would be in the distinct minority among men who haven't had sex for years. Most of those men are desperately lonely, and hence INvoluntarily celibate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 04:10 AM |
| 8 | Q4All: How are we supposed to take dates seriously if they're sleeping around?Do you understand how analogies work? Pointing out that two things are different does NOT automatically make reasoning by analogy invalid, or analogy wouldn't exist at all. Jesus christ it's like I'm teaching a primary school English class | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 06:53 AM |
| 8 | Q4All: How are we supposed to take dates seriously if they're sleeping around?Firstly — that doesn't stop the analogy working, obviously. You've just given an arbitrary reason they're different which doesn't change anything about the principle the analogy is getting at. Secondly — okay, let's just make it a human analogy then. If you don't have a problem with people having multiple friends, why not dates? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 06:41 AM |
| 11 | Q4All: How are we supposed to take dates seriously if they're sleeping around?What an absolute copout of a response. No, they absolutely ARE comparable for the purpose of this analogy. If you don't have a problem with people looking at multiple options for A,B,C to see which one is the best fit for them, then you absolutely need to explain why you consider D any different in principle. I feel bad for anybody who doesn't understand how analogy works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 06:07 AM |
| 6 | Q4All: How are we supposed to take dates seriously if they're sleeping around?I do. As I said in the post, it is opportunistic and very self-serving. Do you expect people to only apply for one job at a time? Do you expect people to only look at one house at a time when purchasing or renting? Do you expect people to only apply for one college program at a time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 05:32 AM |
| 1 | If women are responsible for their poor taste in men, then men are responsible for their poor taste in women.It's no-one's fault but yours you don't have options. Every average guy I know does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 01:49 AM |
| 1 | If women are responsible for their poor taste in men, then men are responsible for their poor taste in women.You changed from 0 options to 1 option because you knew your argument was wrong. You changed from dating in general to specifically dating apps because you knew your argument was wrong. And you, bizarrely, keep inventing things I've never said (e.g. "you think an average guy could get a new gf as fast as his girlfriend") because you can't find any thing wrong with what I've actually said. It's not my fault your ego can't handle being a below average guy, but actually average guys really don't ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 04:22 PM |
| 0 | If women are responsible for their poor taste in men, then men are responsible for their poor taste in women.I didn't argue that Reddit must be dominated by below average men simply because it has lots of users (and indeed, that would be incoherent of me lol). So I have no idea what you're actually trying to rebut here. Reddit is full of 'below average' men because of its dominant culture, tropes, anonymity, and argumentative nature. That's very different to a social media site like Instagram, which has more of a focus on photo & video sharing and showing off cool aspects of your life. That has much mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 08:55 AM |
| 1 | If women are responsible for their poor taste in men, then men are responsible for their poor taste in women.just because men have a long term relationship doesnt mean they have options. Firstly, yes, it literally does mean they don't have 0 options, which is what your argument was. Secondly, it's relatively easy to extrapolate that if a guy could get that girl of whatever attractiveness level... he could probably also get girls that are equally or less attractive. Again, this is very easy to observe just by leaving the house sometimes. you cant compare that with the number of options women have I didn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 08:50 AM |
| 11 | If women are responsible for their poor taste in men, then men are responsible for their poor taste in women.average guys have 0 options. This is just demonstrably untrue if you're willing to take the big, bold, scary step of... going out in public. Go to a shopping mall or tourist area or cinema in any 'average' suburb, and you'll see HUNDREDS of absolutely average couples of all ages. Maybe even thousands, on a busy day. It's obviously true that especially attractive people have way more options (revolutionary insight!) but you don't need to get carried away and assert that average guys have literall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 01:58 PM |
| 10 | When it comes to who pays for dates, many women say that the gender wage gap justifies the expectation that men pay for dates. However, amongst the demographic that is dating (i.e., single people), single women outearn single men. Therefore, by their own logic, women should pay for dates.Yall going out with some whack women if they dont even offer to split it lol This is one aspect of TRP I consistently find amusing: The sub professes this ideology of... taking responsibility for your outcomes, and understanding there's a completely different sexual market for top tier guys. Okay, cool. But then when their specific implementation of sexual strategy leads [SOME OF] them to conclude that women are disloyal and scheming and trashy and flakey and so on... ... their conclusion isn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/21 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Majority of Women Desire a "power imbalance" in a Relationshiphe isn't an ex-electrician, he is an electrician that works hands on at least 5 days a week. And he still isn't the type of electrician being discussed earlier in the comment chain. When someone says "teachers don't get paid enough", they AREN'T referring to teachers who also happen to be CEOs. That's really, really obvious, and bringing up a teacher-CEO hybrid as a counterexample would be ludicrous. I don't know why you can't just accept that multiple people downvoting you is actually an indica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Majority of Women Desire a "power imbalance" in a RelationshipHow are you going to tell me something that only I know but you don't? You absolutely are not understanding the point of the comment you're disagreeing with, and when people tried to explain it to you, you condescended. Nobody is condescending to you about whether or not you know a CEO that sometimes has to fill in for occasional jobs. I am now absolutely condescending to you about not understanding the ENORMOUS difference between that guy, and the 'regular' electrician archetype that the origin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:26 AM |
| 5 | Majority of Women Desire a "power imbalance" in a RelationshipYou're being really condescending while missing their point. You don't know an electrician making millions. You know an ex-electrician who is now the CEO of an electrical services company. They are not the same occupation, and the occupation you are talking about is not the occupation that others are talking about, which is why you're having such difference of opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?Like, this isn't that "sociopaths," as you put it, and traditionally romantic nice guys have some kind of comparable level of success. Instead, it's that the sociopaths are often far more successful than the traditionally romantic nice guys, at least in the experience of Red Pill adjacent men. If that's not your reality, count yourself lucky. I'm sorry to say this, but it really feels like you didn't read or understand my initial comment fully and are just trying to find disagreement where it do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 09:15 AM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyI'm gonna need access to the full studies here, but these don't seem as definitive as u claim. Dude, come on. I'm not going to engage in a discussion where one person provides absolutely zero evidence of their own, while the other provides a broad range of studies all pointing in exactly the same direction and is still burden-pushed to a ridiculous extent. (No, it's NOT reasonable to ignore recent research on the implicit premise that a dating app has fundamentally changed human biology & innate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?The "golden mean" isn't the game, though. The game is to be sexually attractive. I don't understand how you picked that sentence out to portray this as an opposite goal to optimising for sexual attractiveness... ... when literally the following sentence makes it clear that my point is that optimising for sexual attractiveness IS the Aristotelian golden mean: As with most aspects of life, the Aristotelian golden mean is best, here. The happiest and most consistently sexually satisfied men certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 06:01 AM |
| 2 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodySigh, alright. (2014) https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0034424 Whereas husbands were more satisfied at the beginning of the marriage and remained more satisfied over the next 4 years to the extent that they had an attractive wife, wives were no more or less satisfied initially or over the next 4 years to the extent that they had an attractive husband. Most importantly, a direct test indicated that partner physical attractiveness played a larger role in predicting husbands’ satis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?This is kind of a No true Scotsman retort No, the TRP sidebar doesn't recommend being in the anger phase. But there are a lot of guys in TRP (including the endorsed guys) who seem really unhappy with society and fairly misogynistic — in the original sense of actually seeming to hate women. It's totally fair to critique an ideology by how its adherents behave and think in practice, not just what is written in its texts and 'core philosophy'. Though I do agree it's worth specifying this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 05:09 PM |
| 5 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?At some point, it also becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. TRP is specifically sold as sexual strategy, which will naturally evolve to attract promiscuous women AND/OR put oneself in an extremely clear 'lover' role. The sub gives basically no advice catered towards finding good women, or transitioning from being a lover into having a healthy relationship with a woman (or multiple). So you get a ton of burned-romantic guys who start having more success under TRP's advice — because now, at least, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't the Red Pill guys happier about the modern world?The vast majority of men I know in real life who have great sex lives are also happy, social, and driven people. That's... a big part of what gets them their great sex life. This isn't to say their lives or emotional states are perfect — I'd count myself as one of those guys, and I have bad days & weeks! — but in general they're comfortable with people and society. When I see guys on PPD/TRP/etc. claim they have insanely great sex lives but can't find a decent woman and think society is unrecogn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 04:45 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyUhhh, none of those are about personality though. This really feels like you skimmed this comment chain at warp speed and misinterpreted lol The comment I am responding to included a claim that women care about physical attractiveness more than men I flagged that I was responding specifically to that claim in literally my first response sentence, and even more clearly in my second. What's not being understood here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 04:13 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyThis is exceptionally well studied, and the finding is consistent that men value physical attractiveness higher than women (though it matters for both sexes, and particularly for sexual interaction). I'm sorry, but there is no particularly good reason to believe that women care about physical attractiveness more than men. https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-3514.59.5.981 Evolutionary and sociocultural theories of mate selection preferences contend that men place greater value o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyIf your current dating / sexual strategy isn't getting you girls who put equal effort into sex, maybe it could still use some tweaking lol But yeah I think we're agreed that inexpensive or free dates are totally sufficient to get laid, so all good on that point dude :) Ciao! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 03:29 PM |
| 1 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and bodyI think it's more accurate to say that women's beauty standards are much more tied to personality, status, etc. than men's are. There are plenty of girls dating average-looking guys who find those guys incredibly physically attractive, too... but this is enabled by whatever other traits they have going for them. Whereas if you show that girl a basically identical looking guy in a study, where you can build 0 chemistry between them and put her in a critical mindset first (by virtue of simply know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 02:48 PM |
| 6 | “The Wall” hits BOTH genders, and just means the age at which your lifestyle is accurately reflected on your face and body$50 to sit across from someone interviewing me about how well I'd be at supporting them? Well yeah, that's definitely not worth it. But why are you letting your dates go that way? It's your own fault for not picking a more active date & generating fun conversation, imo. You can put together a terrific date for zero money (or maybe $5 for a gelato or coffee along the route)... and you can put together a shit date for $10k. If you consistently chose bad date structures, of course you're not going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/21 02:41 PM |
| 1 | The central part of taking the red pill is fully accepting the overwhelming advantage women have in sexual, dating, and relationship landscape.It's the truth, so it's not bad logic. Bad logic. Because none of this applies with the dating parket. Because you are showing that you know far too much that simply isn't true. Nothing you have said is factually correct or applicable here. You have not rightfully pointed anything even remotely applicable to the dating market. You're literally just asserting all of these statements. No, something isn't bad logic or untrue just because you say so. Don't be childish. There is one and only one law … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 07:04 AM |
| 1 | The central part of taking the red pill is fully accepting the overwhelming advantage women have in sexual, dating, and relationship landscape.Then you risk someone else undercutting you. Women can't do this very easily because there are alternatives to women Nope, this is pretty bad logic too. We weren't talking about essential or monopolised goods in my example. This effect can apply basically anywhere, even for goods where there are thousands of alternatives. You can raise the price of a painting by $1,000 and demand can sometimes go up, even though there are a billion other artworks they could buy, or a billion other home decoratio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | The central part of taking the red pill is fully accepting the overwhelming advantage women have in sexual, dating, and relationship landscape.... yes, I agree. So? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 02:12 AM |
| 2 | The central part of taking the red pill is fully accepting the overwhelming advantage women have in sexual, dating, and relationship landscape.Supply and Demand, people, it's a LAW, not a theory. Uh "Supply and demand" is literally economic theory "Supply and demand" isn't even a single statement about how those two interact, so it makes no sense to claim it's a specific law that is obeyed. You may as well claim that x and y axes are 'law'. If you want an easy example of #2 — it's well known in marketing theory that for some goods, you can increase the price and demand will go UP (not down, as the most basic S&D model would predict), b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:09 PM |
| – | Subtle, light, playful touch is crucial in building attraction and reinforcing the idea that you are more than a platonic friendWalking hand-in-hand easily transitions into virtually anything else you want to do — twirling her, guiding her, bringing her in for a kiss, etc. | /r/seduction | 30/06/21 02:59 PM |
| – | Subtle, light, playful touch is crucial in building attraction and reinforcing the idea that you are more than a platonic friendTouches that are ok are, for example, a playful arm brush with your arm, "accidental" hand touch and so on. I want to tell you a recent story that finally helped me 'get' kino. My girlfriend Stephanie & I date other girls, and she'd recently been on a date with a girl we'll call Isabelle. Isabelle expressed at some point that she'd be interested in me / a threesome, so we invite her over to ours. This isn't particularly new to us, but Isabelle has never had one. Now, Isabelle is a really cute gi… | /r/seduction | 30/06/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Aside from single-parents-by-choice, why is it that there's so much hatred for single mothers but complete adoration for single fathers?The comment you're responding to literally already takes into account that we're talking about probability, not 100% of cases: Crucially, it would also not imply that any given single mother is likely to be less respectable than any given father. I'm fully aware you're making a general statement, and your logic is still terrible. You're going to be an absolutely awful single father one day lol. What kind of father can't even help his kid with primary level English homework? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 12:41 PM |
| 0 | Aside from single-parents-by-choice, why is it that there's so much hatred for single mothers but complete adoration for single fathers?Okay, that's bizarrely irrelevant to what we're discussing, but sure. I'm going to quote your own comment back to you because it really feels like you've actually forgotten what you chose to argue: Because single fathers are much more respectable. I am not sure people know this consciously, but if you are a single father it means you are awesome and your ex was shity, or she died. If you are a single mother it means you quit your husband and put your kids in that situation. I told you there were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 05:41 AM |
| 0 | Aside from single-parents-by-choice, why is it that there's so much hatred for single mothers but complete adoration for single fathers?... uh, alright, I'm totally happy to take 30% of cases as the stat to use for my argument, then. 30% of single parent households (about 11m in the USA) being caused by shitty men would be approximately 3.3m shitty men. So there's your "plenty". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 04:31 PM |
| 4 | Aside from single-parents-by-choice, why is it that there's so much hatred for single mothers but complete adoration for single fathers?This is just bizarre doublethink lol and trying to have it both ways. There are plenty of shitty guys out there who abandon girls they've had kids with, for no good reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | What argument here has changed your mind?Philosophical or difficult implies they both have a similar meaning No it doesn't you absolute mong If I say my car isn't red or blue, that in no way implies red or blue are the same colour This is the worst semantic analysis I've read all year | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 02:28 AM |
| 1 | What argument here has changed your mind?... I didn't say "philosophy means difficult" He literally asked the other guy to simplify How did you manage to only read 2 out of 4 words in the comment I responded to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 02:02 AM |
| 1 | What argument here has changed your mind?That logic is nowhere in the comment you responded to, so I have no idea what we're discussing anymore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 02:01 AM |
| 14 | What argument here has changed your mind?How was the above in any way a complex point lmao I literally have no idea what part of that comment you found philosophical or difficult | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 12:35 PM |
| – | "Tinder will soon let you run a background check on a potential date" - Is this seen as good or bad from a dating perspective?Tbf, someone psychotic enough to go through that effort just to reduce someone's Tinder matches is probably also psychotic enough to forge that document in general, you know? (e.g. put it up on Facebook, or show it to friends/family, or just mention it at a party) I don't think Tinder is especially enabling these lies compared to their feasibility in general | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/21 01:12 AM |
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