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118

As the kids would say: for the streets
/r/PussyPass17/07/20 09:55 PM
5

Maybe these kids didn't.
/r/PussyPass13/02/19 04:42 AM
1

I agree it should be criminal, but a lengthy prison sentence isn't necessary like it would be in an all out aggravated rape case.
/r/MensRights22/06/16 04:24 AM
1

he was my teacher, mom, what was I supposed to do That's a different story. suppose the girl welcomed the attention and advances from a teacher who was a 33 year old man; Sounds okay to me. If she was a few months older suddenly its okay, I don't see a huge difference.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 09:49 PM
1

I agree with you completely.
/r/MensRights17/06/16 11:59 PM
1

A 17 can consent just not in the fully in the eyes of the law. I understand the point about the teacher which is why I feel there should be some punishment.
/r/MensRights17/06/16 11:59 PM
14

If a 17 year old commits a murder, kiddie wouldn't be the correct term. Frankly, I don't think a lengthy prison sentence is deserved when a 17 year old has consensual sex with an older adult.
/r/MensRights17/06/16 01:12 AM
53

That kid is 13?
/r/MensRights01/06/16 03:01 PM
4

Sorry to be that guy but I think you mean when the facts don't fit your narrative.
/r/MensRights27/09/15 03:19 PM
10

Mom's responsibility.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 10:09 PM
1

men are routinely forced to be seen by the same judge. That defeats the purpose of an appellate court. I'm gonna need some sources.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 02:55 PM
2

That's why there are appellate courts.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 02:16 PM
2

She should always be treated as a man.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 02:19 PM
0

You're right, but I'm an equal opportunity offender. Not to mention there is actually a lot more gay butt rape.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 03:39 PM
4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQ7R3tl1iU
/r/MensRights07/08/15 07:02 PM
20

And a lot more gay butt rape.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 05:15 PM
2

Similar to when satanists announced support for Rick Perry.
/r/MensRights29/07/15 02:34 PM
-1

I don't know of anyone that graduates at 17.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:39 PM
4

I may be wrong, a lot of people are saying 17-18 is standard.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:35 PM
3

From feedback it looks like I may be wrong.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:34 PM
-5

It's 18 and 19. Maybe some people start senior year at 17.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:31 PM
-1

I'm not, maybe you went to a school for smart kids?
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:31 PM
-7

18-19 is standard for senior year.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:26 PM
1

I was in 8th grade this last year and there were only a few 13 year olds.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:26 PM
-7

You're a year low. 8th is 14-15.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 11:15 PM
3

I don't think you're gonna be banned for your hate speech but you shouldn't spew it. It makes us look bad.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 01:28 AM
5

That is incredibly sexist. Get that garbage out of here.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:17 AM
9

Men and women are very different though. Their brains are wired differently and the hormones that influence their thoughts are different. Neither is really better but they are both different.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 07:06 AM
16

This statement seems off. They could try to get votes from either gender and money and labor from either gender.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 06:29 PM
1

Hey OP are no men allowed? I re-read the sign and nowhere does it say no men, just that it's safe for women and trans.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 04:32 AM
11

That is true, I concede my point.
/r/PussyPass10/05/15 06:41 PM
-4

You believe that when someone turns 18 they magically have a switch flipped in their brain?
/r/PussyPass10/05/15 06:15 PM
9

Unfortunately, as long as elected judges are a thing, this will remain an issue.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 12:39 AM
1

The site is comparing wages in the same job type and is getting skewed results.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 01:05 AM
1

They all show that pay is either equal, or skewed in favor of men.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 12:44 AM
1

Update in case you checked my last post already, there is no source to the Forbes opinion article. Edit: The other link points to some statistics very counter to the post.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 12:11 AM
1

Oops, RES messed me up.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 12:08 AM
1

Sources for that last image?
/r/MensRights23/03/15 11:45 PM
1

I am posting this exact same question to /r/feminism
/r/MensRights23/03/15 09:51 PM
2

It's not for a grade. It's just to prove her wrong.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 09:51 PM
1

Not homework, it's my choice, my teacher is blabbing about how bad the wage gap is and I told her I'd write a paper on why she's wrong.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 09:50 PM
0

Obviously. I never claimed they were. All I was doing is saying it was worse for the woman than simply losing their meal tickets.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 10:37 PM
-2

You read a ton into my post. I was just pointing out that things were rough all over, no shit men had it worse.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 09:07 PM
-1

If that's the case than the earlier comment about a meal ticket is no longer true.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 03:46 AM
7

The man gave his paycheck obviously. There was also work but the man's paycheck was the bulk.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 03:33 AM
11

I agree.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 10:32 PM
-12

Not arguing for the first, but, it's a bit more than a meal ticket not returning, women were pretty discriminated against back then so it was even harder to support themselves and any children. Of course getting blown up is pretty shitty as well. Edit: Yep nope, of course in here it's bad to assume it's anything but a woman feeling as though a man is just a meal ticket. God damn I support the MRM and actively defend this community but wow some of you guys actually are misogynist fuckers.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 09:23 PM
1

Lol, maybe you need to learn to be more understan...nah, never argue with a fool. Have a good day, mate.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 02:06 AM
1

It's saying then something trivial happens and we ignore all else.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 02:05 AM
1

Similar things are grouped together, it's 1st grade mate.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 01:25 AM
1

Rape in a list that shows how trivial things help women get ahead in society, yes.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 12:46 AM
1

Lol, adorable you say that part about realz and fells. But yeah, you did.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 11:24 PM
-1

The first implies the second.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 09:26 PM
0

Go for it, and I have you as unaccepting of other's ideas.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 09:24 PM
-2

Neither of those. I can back up my argument, it shouldn't need backed up, it's pretty obvious he grouped them together.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 09:42 PM
-2

Good for you? I also read it where it was originally posted.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 09:16 PM
-2

That wasn't a list of things taken more seriously. Reread it.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 09:12 PM
1

I agree.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 07:58 PM
1

Lol, that would be on the trivial bullshit list.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 07:05 PM
-2

Not misrepresenting. I interpreted it differently than you, maybe one day you'll realize you too, oh great and powerful you can be wrong.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 07:04 PM
-2

Lol, I guess if you want to discourage reasonable discourse, but come on, he put rape in where it didn't belong. That's not cool.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 07:04 PM
-3

Lol, this isn't even a case of outrage, I'm fine. I lost no credibility, you were wrong and can't admit it, plain and simple. He clearly grouped something that doesn't belong in there.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 06:38 PM
-3

I'm not a bullshiter lol. In this context rape was grouped with minor things. Plain and simple. I'm not misrepresenting, that is what he did. Severity isn't mentioned, but it's obvious that one of those things doesn't belong, and grouping it is pretty offensive to rape victims. I don't want to make him say anything, I agree with his point, it's just that he fucked up when grouping the causes of the problem. I didn't create ragebait, and I didn't lie. Perhaps we interpreted it differently and can…
/r/MensRights14/03/15 05:56 PM
-5

That's not what downvotes are for. He grouped rape with other less severe things. This implies it isn't as serious. I didn't lie or backpedal.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 04:54 PM
-4

He was making the point that little things excuse actions taken by women. Rape isn't a little thing. Also, way to downvote my posts for actually having a discussion.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 04:46 PM
-8

I did no such thing. I said I understood the point but he grouped rape in with other minor things. That isn't very good fro the look of the MRM.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 04:27 PM
-9

a woman is raped anything minor happen to them Goddammit. Can't we just once have some reasonable discussion without someone actually undermining the seriousness of rape or some other bullshit, I mean, I understand your point and upvoted because it contributed to the discussion but come on, don't put rape up there with other trivial bullshit.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 03:17 PM
1

Any proof that she paid him?
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 10:45 PM
2

Well, I think this sub is pretty strongly against Western feminism.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 11:37 PM
1

You're talking out your ass at this point mate.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 11:45 PM
5

they knew they were wrong to use the force they used. Now if they acted in self defense they shouldn't be traumatized for defending themselves. Say that to soldiers that kill children suicide bombers that got PTSD from it.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 09:41 PM
6

Because you're not a sociopath? I assume you've never killed anyone, and neither have I, but from accounts of those that have, it's an especially traumatizing experience. Not to mention that suicide by cop means that the person had no intention of killing others anyway.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 09:08 PM
6

A miss could result in collateral damage. If there is a hidden weapon, the suspect could grab it while he's down, to many variables. Shooting low is fucking stupid. All shots must be kill shots.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 08:43 PM
2

That defeats the purpose of shooting. Shooting is lethal force, any supposed 'non lethal shot' is bullshit, not only because it's an extremely difficult shot, but could get innocents killed because they didn't use enough force, not to mention even a leg or arm shot can kill. There is no such thing as shooting to incapacitate in this scenario.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 08:28 PM
8

I disagree with the first point. Anyone that applies the scientific method to things is a scientist, and not to mention there are about a billion flavors of feminism, a lot of which have mutually exclusive views.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 02:55 AM
2

Interesting, thanks.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:09 PM
2

All these accounts have been made within a few hours. gr8 b8 m8
/r/MensRights21/01/15 11:08 PM
16

There are some that want men to die.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:26 PM
3

women aren't as smart as men Source?
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:24 PM
5

Even though women think there are. Get that shit out of here, this isn't a place for sexism. Even though feminists think there are. FTFY
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:23 PM
-6

Pussy, in the context of calling someone weak, is the shortened version of the word pussilanimous, which means to show a lack of courage or be timid. Yeah, maybe. Not taking sides in the argument but come on, ask anyone what they meant by pussy and they'll tell you they meant a vagina.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:21 PM
1

I'm confused why you think the person sounds like a feminist based on a question for evidence.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:19 PM
3

I don't see how.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 07:33 AM
3

No, raping someone while drunk No one is saying he raped her while drunk, quite the opposite in fact. People are saying it isn't rape just because a party is drunk.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 08:57 PM
2

Apples and oranges.
/r/PussyPass23/11/14 07:11 AM
0

Conservatives totally want less spending, it's a pretty defining feature.
/r/PussyPass23/11/14 07:10 AM
1

Yes, this isn't the god damn He-Man Woman Hater's Cub, some people need to grow up.
/r/PussyPass23/11/14 07:08 AM
1

Just watched it, they really don't make a good point.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 01:08 PM
-1

Obviously at the first part. Clearly you didn't read the article on the second. Have a good day, I'm done responding.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 03:32 AM
0

Yes, but the "Alimony" being asked for was made during the marriage.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 02:44 AM
0

She was a VP at the company that made 18 Billion while they were married, the court though half was too much and gave her 1/9<sup>th</sup> of what the law said she should get.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 12:10 AM
1

Both sides were pretty funny, but to say that thinking that the Majority of Feminists disagree with the MRM is pretty much undeniable.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 03:25 AM
3

You're a dumbass.
/r/PussyPass09/11/14 08:16 PM
3

It can definitely be hard to disconnect your present and past self with regard to motives and desires, so those of us past that age might be remembering though biased eyes, but there are a lot of people that are that age that would want what that boy had.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 07:14 PM
2

I very much agree that when she seduced him and got him drunk that it was against his will. What I was saying is that a lot of people would want what happened to that boy to happen to them.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 06:40 PM
5

Why did people disagree with this? I know for a fact plenty of girls around that age would love 'hot' adult men to do something like what happened to that guy. So yeah, I still think it is a lot of girl's make a wish. Also, the fact that she tried to get him drunk is kind of disturbing, and if he didn't feel right, it may very well have been sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 06:16 PM
8

I didn't think of it like that, very well thought out points.
/r/MensRights09/11/14 06:13 PM
18

No no no, when it's a man it's a power fantasy, because only men play games. 30 seconds later AND THEY BLATANTLY IGNORE ALL THE WOMEN THAT PLAY GAMES!
/r/MensRights03/11/14 01:30 AM
-1

It doesn't entirely prevent HIV, it helps, just like condoms don't entirely prevent it. Sure, it'd be great if we could get both together, but that can't always happen.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 09:24 PM
1

Nah, you just don't deserve a response, you're not going to change your mind, and I don't see that this conversation will lead anywhere productive because if you can't see the difference between me getting fucked in the arse against my will and the US helping other countries in a complex geopolitical setting, then I don't want to have a conversation about this with you because, quite frankly, it looks like it goes over your head(or at the very least you're arguing for the sake of it). Also, that…
/r/MensRights02/11/14 09:23 PM
1

Not worth a response or even a read.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 02:26 AM
-2

It does though. The skin on foreskins is particularly susceptible to HIV.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 12:24 AM
-2

That's a little different.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 09:59 PM
-2

Yes it is, other countries expect us to, so we have to be.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 09:29 PM
-1

Because we are expected to.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 08:54 PM
-2

I'm inclined to disagree, there are expectations of us.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 06:29 PM
-4

Wow, way to insert confrontation to a friendly conversation. I was showing him why I felt his analogy was wrong, and because you are so confrontational I don't think that you really deserve any replies further because you're here to fight, not discuss.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 05:09 PM
-12

Adults can choose whatever they want to be removed for whatever reason. Babies, we should stick to only removing things that won't incredibly impact the quality of their life, unless entirely medically necessary, losing their foreskin is probably better than death by HIV, but getting your whole penis chopped off would be to much of a drop in quality of life. Tl;dr: The foreskin, while good, isn't 100% necessary and in cases such as this, where the risk of STDs like HIV is very high, it does more…
/r/MensRights01/11/14 04:33 PM
-12

It's kind of the same, but not fully. Circumcision removes tissues that absorb the viruses more readily, helping to prevent diseases. Edit: Downvotes don't change minds, they are for things that don't add to the discussion.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 04:25 PM
1

I agree, and I see no problem with men that want added protection from STDs getting circumcised, even if hygiene helps as well. I think in this case, it should probably be the parents choice on the circumcision of their children because in this case, it looks like the good may outweigh the bad, and I wouldn't have any problems advocating female babies get circumcised in this instance if there was some research saying that that helps prevent them from getting STDs that kill so many people in thos…
/r/MensRights01/11/14 04:22 PM
-1

Our debt to GDP ratio isn't that bad, and the US plays a pretty important role in the world with foreign aid, so we kind of have to spend it.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 04:16 PM
4

Eh, if grown men want to be circumcised I don't care. I could do without all the infants, but it has been proven to prevent some pretty bad STDs.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 02:56 PM
1

I agree, I'm glad others do as well. Maybe we should ask him if he consented and if he says yes then he wasn't raped.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 07:53 PM
1

Well, see now then you're justified in your position. for her to get worse and worse Very important to know your boundaries.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 12:56 AM
1

It's acceptable violence because it doesn't hurt me. It's like when you call a friend a jackass, in certain contexts it's bad, but here it's okay.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 11:45 PM
1

It would 100% depend on the case. Let's say there is a girl, we'll call her Jennifer. I mispronounce it often in a joking way, like saying JenIYYFer.This becomes a joke with her correcting me, she then goes on to punch me in the stomach, not hard enough to knock the wind out of me or anything, but hard enough it takes me by surprise. I was not upset at all, and frankly, I deserved it.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 11:17 PM
1

Well that would depend on how he did it. It's not a gender thing at all. Obviously that would be excessive but it all depends on the tone, their relationship, and how hard he hit her. If it was a light hit, a laugh and a "Yep, I deserved that." It'd be fine with me.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 11:07 PM
1

I'd be fine with mates doing it too, naturally if it got to be a common thing or if it was uncalled for then I'd be mad, but if they didn't actually hurt me and I thought I deserved it(eg. made a crude joke) yeah I'd be fine. So yeah, a small punch after I make a crude joke isn't going to make me press charges.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:26 PM
1

And I'd be fine with it, as long as I wasn't hurt.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 07:31 PM
3

If I wan't hurt, it'd be okay, and I would fight it if I got suspended.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 07:31 PM
-23

If my girlfriend or even if a mate attacked me like that and I wasn't hurt hurt, I'd be pissed, but if they apologize and everything I would stand up for them and say I deserved it, etc. We don't know their side.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 02:03 AM
5

You have some very wrong attitudes towards women and you should probably take a step back whenever you make broad generalizations about half of the world's people.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 08:10 PM
10

1.) Females. 2.) You are terrible for saying that. You are sexist and that does not do anything to further the MRM.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 08:01 PM
6

Not pussypass, rich celebrity pass.
/r/PussyPass06/09/14 10:05 PM
0

You think they aren't, you're proof that they aren't wasn't sufficient.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 05:33 PM
0

considered mentally competent That doesn't mean they aren't.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 03:53 PM
0

But he's not. He was mentally competent enough to know the risks of not using a condom, from what he says.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 02:37 PM
1

I'm with you. /r/ageismisreal But in all seriousness, it is an issue that should be addressed, but due to our current political process, won't be.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 02:36 PM
-3

I disagree. I think they could consent to it. Plenty of 14 year olds know how/why to use condoms and take other precautions. I'm kind of biased here though, so I'll have to report back in 4 years to know weather my consent is real or not.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 02:59 AM
4

moral/personal thus has no place in law That's not really how law works.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 02:53 AM
41

She is also under 18. I don't know if that factors in.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 12:39 AM
4

Come on man. Posts like this are what gives the men's rights movement a bad name. Let's stop lumping entire genders in groups. I don't come here for hearing about how all woman do XXX.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 01:50 AM
0

Feminism was necessary in the past. Now is a different story.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 12:25 AM
0

That is a shame. I would rather be raped as an adult than a child, but I would most prefer as an infant. I wouldn't remember it at all.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:28 PM
0

I just feel like I'd be more affected fully conscious and when I'd have a sense of agency.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:22 PM
0

I would rather as an infant than as an adult. I mean, I would rather not at all, but if I was forced to pick.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 06:25 AM
1

Responding to violence with an equal level of violence is okay. This advice is law abiding.
/r/PussyPass23/07/14 05:22 AM
1

I wouldn't be. I would wonder why it was here, but I'd go to the comments to see that.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 04:43 AM
2

She's gonna have to move her close pin!
/r/MensRights19/07/14 01:29 AM
2

You deserve the downvotes.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 01:27 AM
6

Non consenting children? Yes. Informed adults? No, we're not. If an adult woman wanted her genitals mutilated for some strange reason, there should be a surgery to accommodate her. Same with a grown man.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 09:57 PM
4

Yes.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 09:28 PM
9

That's because they find it to be acceptable in the culture. (Which doesn't make it right) But this, I can't see this being acceptable in this culture.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 09:07 PM
4

What did it say?
/r/MensRights09/07/14 09:05 PM
1

I think it is, Fathers don't tend to tell their three year old daughters they need them, do they? I'm not an expert on fathering of young girls, that's a serious question.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:24 PM
2

Really a lot of them are good things in healthy relationships as long as women do the same for you. Eg. passing up girls night to listen to you rant.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:23 PM
1

Don't feed the trolls, man.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:21 PM
-1

IIRC the guy in charge of that website is insane and has some pretty misogynistic views.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:40 AM
3

That's slightly less despicable.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 08:27 AM
-4

Plus, she's ugly.
/r/PussyPass09/02/14 12:24 AM
1

You're rather dull, aren't you.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 06:21 PM
1

Yes.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 10:34 PM
1

That is exactly what I meant.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 08:06 PM
2

I didn't say her sole income was child support. The electricity and other things weren't exactly all for me. I assumed $100 for groceries, and $100 for other things. She had other sources of income.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:45 AM
12

Fun story. My mom decided she had enough with me, and dropped me off at my dad's house, never to pick me up again, violating multiple court orders. She didn't tell my dad she got a job paying 10's of thousands more a year, and my dad requested a hearing. He went, and they raised the amount he had to pay. He explained she hadn't got me in months, and they still raised the amount he had to pay.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 01:21 AM
5

My dad paid my mom 800 a month for 1 kid over there half the time. He paid her $23,000 so he could keep his house. He had to support 2 1/2 kids, plus himself, while taking on huge amounts of debt. How much of that $800 went to me? Less than $200.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 01:17 AM
7

Ba Dum Tss
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:00 AM
2

I've had many male teachers that were even more misandrist than the female teachers.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:56 AM
1

Well, I've never heard it phrased like he did.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 06:57 PM
1

Interesting.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 03:33 AM
2

Well, I never heard the pope and bear ones. If you made those up, nice job.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 03:08 AM
5

Do you know if there is a list of funny, obvious points like you have?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:56 AM
2

I thought it was a commonly known thing. Let me find some for you.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 03:11 AM
6

From what I understand, pregnancy tests turn positive after a while of being in the trash. I'd ask her to retake it.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 01:25 AM
10

Also, if your child can't be themselves with you, how will you be sure you're effectively guiding and mentoring them? Once they get older than 13 or 14, that's all you can do, and if you force them to put on an act, you're failing.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:34 AM
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