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Do you actually know any women who are in the bars every weekend? I do. The OP's description is not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:57 AM
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Everyone in this thread defending the lying/cheating two-faced sister is wild. Some of y'all will tolerate/enable some disgusting behavior for a financial windfall in here. I'm half wondering if this thread is being brigaded by the adulterous subs, or if they just happened to frequent this one as well. Smh...
/r/Divorce_Men28/06/26 03:32 AM
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No. They're both doing it, and I pointed out the more important distinction after that: The issue the OP is highlighting is that it is 100% on the mother whether or not a stepfather even has the chance to fulfill a father's role/duty as a father figure in the relationship - and many single mothers cannot accept that.. The entire argument you put forth is moot. Crazy that you chastised me while ignoring the whole point of the post. Smh...
/r/MensRights24/06/26 11:16 PM
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No. It just means your experience is different. All experience exists on a messy and fluid spectrum; you landed in a better spot, many others weren't so lucky. Your experience doesn't define the whole. The issue the OP is highlighting is that it is 100% on the mother whether or not a stepfather even has the chance to fulfill a father's role/duty as a father figure in the relationship - and many single mothers cannot accept that, and insist on elevating their childrens (childish) feelings and des…
/r/MensRights24/06/26 04:56 AM
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No one who uses the phrase "brain power" is intelligent. Not only are you giving divorced men a bad look, but you're giving mediocrity a bad look.
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/26 07:50 PM
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She's already found her monkey branch - which friend/coworker/boss is it?
/r/Divorce_Men28/05/26 06:30 PM

The social shaming they experience is not individual. And the rampant online misandry they experience is not individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:39 PM
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This argument is extremely shallow and naive. Nature is nothing close to black and white, especially when it comes to human nature and our genetics. Nature, and humans in particular, are highly variable, and every single human trait exists on a spectrum, and every single human being has a different degree of every single trait, which many can furthermore be influenced by environmental factors. To try to sit here and argue that there is only 1 viable human template is so absurd, the only way to r…
/r/Divorce_Men16/05/26 04:34 PM
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You shouldn't interject such shallow arguments into someone else's discussion. For starters, degrees of intelligence and self-righteousness are not mutually exclusive. Second of all, when the only rebuttal provided for a fair critique is "my brain hurts," that's a clear and objective indicator of a lack of intelligence/education. You seem confused about the distinctions between hypotheses and theories. They're not mutually exclusive; every theory is a hypothesis, but there are varying degrees of…
/r/Divorce_Men16/05/26 04:11 PM
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Fallacy of irrelevance.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 10:22 PM
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Your argument and its moral grandstanding have been easily refuted/debunked. The OP had an unpleasant experience with an unpleasant woman, critically analyzed the nature of their relationship, and the nature of her toxicity, and -- voila! -- found a quote from a 150-year-old philosopher who had a similar experience and attempted to explain the discrepancies between men and women in his localized culture and era.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 06:47 PM
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Your argument is still trying to turn standard pattern recognition into hatred by relying on a few basic logical fallacies/tricks. First, attacking the person reading and interpreting the text instead of addressing the facts and supporting data. Saying someone is just looking for quotes to make themselves feel right completely dodges the question of whether the data itself has some basis in truth. Second, you are changing the meaning of the word misogyny. Misogyny means a literal hatred of women…
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 06:18 PM
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That is a common side-effect of a lack of education; it could also explain the neglect of context and nuance in your argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis Possibly simpler reading material.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 04:58 PM
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There is a silent majority of men this resonates with, who had and/or are still living through a very similar experience with their partners. This is obvious, "not all women," but it can feel like a significant subset, depending on the local culture.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 04:43 PM
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This surface-level ignorance and lack of historical and contextual understanding suggest an internalized misandry that should be addressed by a psychologist, rather than Reddit. Schopenhauer’s observation can be summarized as a subjective misinterpretation of statistical variance. Schopenhauer, operating as an intellectual outlier at the 0.1% tail of the distribution, encountered a significantly higher ratio of men who shared his capacity for extreme abstraction and future-state planning. This i…
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/26 04:37 PM
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I've never even visited that sub before, and I'm banned. The pinned thread is crying about Reddit disabling ban-bots (March 19th) that preemptively blanket-ban every account that has commented in /other subs/ of their choosing. In an open society, it's bad to be sexist, but in women's spaces on Reddit, it's required to be sexist. It's the hypocrisy for me...
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/26 01:51 AM
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No, they don't. Yes, they do. Well yea. Women rate 80% of men as "below average". Using statistics taken from a poll of a minority of women who have self-selected into using online/app dating to find dates, and projecting their preferences onto the entire female population regarding attraction signals, is not only wildly inappropriate, but it also demonstrates either gross ignorance or gross incompetence. That is not how statistics on self-selected participants, in a highly niche environment, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:20 PM
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Being in a relationship isn’t solid proof someone regularly gets attraction signals. You're repeatedly missing the point. Rationally and logically speaking, given all of human evolutionary, psychological, and sociological knowledge and statistics, it is significantly more likely that a significant proportion of those in relationships or dating are receiving attraction signals; even if the volume of signals is lower than that of their partners, they are still receiving them. This circumstance pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:04 PM
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No, you clearly misunderstood. I merely used my personal experience to highlight the OP's disconnect with his generalizations. All of the popular and even average boys in my various social groups growing up, and into adulthood, also consistently received attraction level feedback from women; it's not just me. Now also consider roughly 60% of adults are married, and another 15% are dating or in long-distance relationships, maybe subtract 5% for homosexuality. You really think 70% of men are not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:08 PM
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Brother, but I have directly responded to this notion you keep trying to insist upon and perpetuate: ... Men don’t get that calibration unless they start actively putting themselves out there early... ... men have to actually pursue to get most of their feedback... ... Men are sending out applications and only get most feedback when they get a callback or land an interview.... This overgeneralizing just isn't true for a lot of boys/men. I can assure you. Now, to clarify, I agree that it is also …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:34 PM
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Is this take actually serious? Lots and lots of men get constant feedback all the time, from all age ranges. I feel awful for you if this has been your experience, but then I'd wager that lack of validation is probably a sign that you just aren't conventionally attractive to most people.l; at least in your current state Your personal experiences or those of your close friends don't define the experience for everyone, and you shouldn't generalize like this. It's very unhealthy. I've been constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:21 PM

It is true. I think that you've forgotten whole swaths of human history where sexual serial monogamy has been the primary/dominant, and normative form for men and women across time and space.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:57 PM

Let's follow this line of reasoning to its natural conclusions. Locking your house/car is not insecurity. This is a basic, logical act of due diligence and self-preservation. Labeling it "insecurity" is a form of Ad Hominem fallacy, as it attacks a person's character instead of addressing the rational act of protecting one's property. Disallowing your perverted aunt/uncle from having alone time with your child is not insecurity. This is a fundamental act of parental protection and responsibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:45 PM

Absolutely wrong/ignorant. Monogamy is extremely common, evolutionarily speaking, in particular species; these include homo sapiens, which, you know, is the topic at hand. Stop being so angry/disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:37 PM

It's not insecurity. Don't let these types of warped perspectives define the narrative. The OP labeling preventative actions as insecurity is gaslighting you. Maybe they're just incompetent or being malicious (to manipulate), but either way, we should not just accept their (mis)framing of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:30 PM

If it were biological, wouldn’t it exist in all cultures? Just for awareness, no, this is not how biology works. Human biology/nature is highly varied and highly dependent upon external and contextual factors regarding expression. You cannot simply disconnect biology from the environment. Just because one culture exists that defies the dominant culture across time and space, it does not at all mean or imply there are no biological factors at play (and that there are only cultural factors for tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:27 PM

Right. The OP is just gaslighting the normies in this sub. Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:57 PM
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Sorry, but I don't think you get to gatekeep the definition of "real men" just cause the Earth rotated around the sun 18 or more times while you were on it. It's a language construct defined by the population/culture, not by irrational and toxic opinions on the internet. But I would like to give you some direction. Read more Marcus: marcus_aurelius_and_masculinity/ Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one. The ability to show kindness and compassion toward others, rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:17 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:06 PM
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Based. However, F&F deserves plenty of mocking. That doesn't mean they're 100% wrong 100% of the time. Their channel wouldn't exist if there weren't some truths that resonated with other people; that said, they also lack the credibility to lead those other people genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:41 PM
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Love your take and self-awareness. I would just add that confidence does not have to be aggressive/bossy/pushy. Those traits can make overcoming anxieties at the moment, which tend to hold your confidence back, much more manageable. However, I'd propose that genuine confidence or mastered confidence is earned by dedicated work/experience/ability, and once achieved, one does not need those traits to express itself. Rather, the ultimate form and expression of confidence is when it can be expressed…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:10 PM
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I agree, but I want to discuss what you've touched on. All movements can easily become corrupted by extremists who want to enact revenge against their real or even perceived perpetrators. On both sides, those who demonize all men or all women have been led, or led themselves, into paranoia/psychosis. If the majority of the moment does not openly denounce such ideas/sentiments, then the rationality of the movement will eventually devolve and fraction; then, it can no longer be defined/owned by on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:58 PM
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When you only see society through the lens of your own biases, as a woman, most surely would not recognize or retain such sentiments, regardless of whether they've been spoken or written, when they're against a man/men. Why would they bother/care to? However, it is not your place to deny it when someone tells you or expresses struggles seen from their own experiences. I've personally seen/heard every one of the sentiments the OP has quoted here many times, spread across many years. I've also see…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:35 PM
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It's so funny (and sad) when neo-cons scream "economy" while having absolutely no FN clue about any of it. Some of its an excuse to vote for hatred and bigotry, and the rest is probably their vulnerability to all the propaganda.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 09:44 PM
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Her response was wildly inappropriate. However, and this is not intended to offend, it seems a bit tactless/inpet to ask a woman out for drinks while believing she's still in a long-term relationship; that could easily be interpreted as sleazy. If you had changed just one word, "drinks," to "coffee," then you'd probably be in the clear. But the whole _xx_ thing is also rather weird. She sounds like she needs a boatload of therapy, though, so you're probably better off anyway.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 12:26 AM
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Her response was insane, but you're right; this is the vibe he was giving.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 12:15 AM
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It's an uphill and often unappreciated battle to confront the vast ignorance of the many conservative shills in this sub, especially when their response to valid critique and counter-evidence consists of little more than hand-waving, projection, and fake bravado.
/r/MensRights01/11/24 10:44 PM
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You should make a separate post, assuming it wouldn't be a repost, to raise awareness of this: With wide, bipartisan support (including that of both major political parties, both houses of Congress, and presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter), the ERA seemed destined for ratification... ... until Phyllis Schlafly mobilized conservative women in opposition. These women argued that the ERA would... cause women to be drafted into the military... lose protections such as alimony... …
/r/MensRights01/11/24 04:39 PM
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That's a fair take, but also, if more balanced takes aren't put forward in this sub, it will "feel" like a conservative hive-mind, even if there are undercurrents of independent, moderate, or even left-wing advocates that don't want to be shunned in here. But, maybe you're right and that's a lost cause.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 02:42 PM
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That's fair, but like you said, you could have worded this to convey that better. Also, while it's true that the Democrats prioritize whomever they consider to be the more vulnerable demographics when Republicans use macho language and proclaim that women need to obey and be subservient to men in traditional marriage and that men get to deny women's right to healthcare, we should not be ignoring/pretending that this in any way reflects a pro-MensRights sentiment, because it doesn't. Republicans …
/r/MensRights29/10/24 12:53 PM
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I'm not sure how significant this specific metric from this particular study is, given that: ... An international sample of 20 adults... This minuscule sample size surely is not representative of the gendered Parental Alienation cases worldwide. It would be more interesting if you could find/link a broader study whose focus included fair representation across multiple categories (including gender) rather than a survey like this one, which is solely concerned about the longer-term effects of alie…
/r/MensRights28/10/24 02:45 PM
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Hi. I'm an Independent Male who tends to Vote Democrat because the Republican party has no serious Party Platform to speak of and is currently being run by a Nepo-baby with delusions of grandeur whose sole motivation is popularity through tabloid-level showboating and appealing to the distraught emotions of illiberal, ethno-confederates. That last semblance of American character and self-respect within the Republican party was lost with John McCain and, just before that, with Bush (even if every…
/r/MensRights28/10/24 02:28 PM
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All of these similar articles/takes that conservatives on this board keep posting daily about "Young Men running to Trump," seem ignorant at best and like disinformation campaigns at worst. Harris has gained a +18-23 point margin over Trump for Young Men intending to vote. The article you are referencing doesn't provide any breakdown of age demographics. So, while the quote might be accurate for a growing subset of Young Men, in totality, they're a minority. I can tell you Trump only leads the m…
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:41 PM
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Nothing you stipulated is a double standard; a double standard does not necessarily require treating everyone equally. Instead, it is merely a standard that its proponents claim to be equitable or fair while objectively providing an advantage to one group over another. No one in their right mind would ever argue that providing financial assistance to the poor has ever advantaged the poor over the middle class, much less the wealthy; that would be utterly irrational nonsense. It is better to be s…
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:07 PM
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Shh... how dare you spoil the conservative narrative and witch hunts with your context and nuance!
/r/MensRights28/10/24 12:46 PM
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And most of those self-proclaimed cooks have never FN cooked...
/r/MensRights24/10/24 12:41 AM
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Do you always cry wolf when facts hurt your feelings?
/r/MensRights23/10/24 01:07 PM
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Redefining genocide as the abortion of pre-conscious zygotes/fetuses shows about as much judgment/depth as a Neanderthal... But then maybe I'm being too mean to Neanderthals.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 09:39 PM
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Thanks for linking. This deserves to be elevated into its own post to improve awareness, assuming it would not be a repost.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 09:38 PM
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The media pundits wonder why there are so many men turning to misogynistic red-pill content, which frankly does have a lot of exaggerated toxicity. Still, at the same time, they won't bother reporting, much less researching, the underlying, legitimate issues impacting those men. ... Data in North America shows that while only two per cent of convicted sex offenders are women, when speaking to survivors, 12 to 14 per cent say the perpetrator was a woman... ... These cases are less likely to be de…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:06 PM
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What he said is factually incorrect. Since at least the late 90s (Bush v Gore), when Republicans and Democrats had a near 50/50 split for younger voters in a Presidental Election, the slide of young voters towards the Democratic Party has consistently been increasing. Cherry-picking statistics, much less failing to cite their sources, and then portraying it as a general trend when it is factually incorrect and easily debunked IS disinformation. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/if-you-must-be-a…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 07:29 PM
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This is the way.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 05:47 PM
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Equating a post-conscious human being with a pre-conscious zygote/fetus shows about as much judgment/depth as a Neanderthal... But then maybe I'm being too mean to Neanderthals.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 05:33 PM
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Forcing all women to comply with an unscientific opinion about their own bodies, healthcare, and family planning is unacceptable; it is illiberal and un-American. Women have been aborting fetuses since the beginning of our species, primarily via herbicide, up until medical abortions became the safer option. Only in the 1800s did some Western countries begin to outlaw the practice, mainly driven by religious zealots. America was founded to provide a haven from the state-sanctioned religious zealo…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 05:30 PM
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This is an excellent point to keep in mind. However... Both of these subjects can be true at the same time. Both Men and Women are more likely to kill a man (or have a man killed) than a woman; also, the critical factors in determining who will grow up to be a killer is a combination of genetics and environment, with likely a very heavy skew towards the environment (parents, social class, schools, peers, etc.). It's not unfair to point out a statistic/metric that has been ignored, at men's expen…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 05:10 PM
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Thanks for citing this.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:48 PM
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Thanks for finding this.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:33 PM
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This is pretty revealing, and honestly, I'd expect this. However, this statistic is impossible to find anywhere else, and at least Google's AI won't answer this properly: "Women are more likely to kill a man than a woman." Instead, it'll say, "No, men are more likely to kill women than vice-versa," which completely misses the mark; basically, in this regard, it seems the web is clearly sexist against men. I'd love to know if anyone can find any other sources.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 12:05 AM
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Thanks for posting the information.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:32 PM
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Right. Like, are the comments real? This is common sense... but a lot of these pro-conservative agenda takes are asinine. Are these real people?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:28 PM
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This take is so objectively ignorant and wrong that I'm starting to wonder if this sub is full of trolls or bots pushing a Republican disinformation agenda? Practically every statistical source says Dems lead Republicans on young men; something like +27 points. It's not even close. Y'all can't even do the simplest research before spouting some BS. The Dems need to make a lot of changes to support and promote Men's issues; but blindly voting for Cult45 ain't the way.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:26 PM
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Equating a zygote/fetus with a conscious human being shows about as much judgment/depth as a Neanderthal... But then maybe I'm being too mean to Neanderthals.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 08:49 PM
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You're right, a buffoon would be a better descriptor. 🥱
/r/MensRights21/10/24 05:43 PM
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She became a presidential candidate through sex? Bro, you sound dumb AF, and this kind of idiocy is why feminists have so much fodder against actual Men's Rights issues/movements. With takes like this, y'all just make it harder for real men to elevate real issues. Smh.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 04:34 PM
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How about you worry about birthing your own zygote/fetus/baby, and let other women have the freedom to control their own healthcare? Who made y'all God?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 04:24 PM
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Equating the life of a fetus to your asshole neighbor Bob takes an incredible level of cognitive dissonance. And to be this disingenuous requires intentionally and actively living a life in ignorance. We evolved beyond apes because of our advanced Intelligence and rationality; it's a shame when so many people fail to use it.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 04:00 PM
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There is an epidemic of Female Teachers molesting kids. No one reports Female Nurses raping male patients because males can't get pregnant. The media ignored all of the nuns' sexual abuse cases when everyone was focused on the Priests. There are plenty of stories of Female Nurses in Jails, Psych wards, and even Juvenile Detention centers arrested for sleeping with inmates. Most of the bestiality you find online has female participants. I'm not sure you can justify labeling the depths of such dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:10 PM
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1.) You should have refuted the point on hunter-gatherer societies. It doesn't align with your narrative, so it's best to ignore it, eh? 2.) You're throwing out straw-man arguments and pretending to counter them as if I made any claims about discrediting MtDNA analysis. I didn't, and neither did my quote. Did you even read the Wiki page? ... I imagine it was different depending on the culture, the climate, the needs and goals of the group etc. 3.) You indeed went on a long rant to reevaluate and…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/24 02:15 AM
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Right. As an adult, I've seen more cougars chasing 18-year-old men than the inverse. However, in high school, I knew some guys who did this on middle school campuses. I told them that they were sick in the head. You also see all those stories about female teachers having sex with their students. This shit happens all over the place. It's just underreported. I've met some 18yo with more maturity and life experience than 28yo living rent- and chore-free in their mom's house. In most cases, these r…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 05:24 PM
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Yeah, body count is just a heuristic that people use because it tends to correlate highly with promiscuous behavior, low morals, no/low standards, etc. That does not _absolutely_ mean that _everyone_ with a "higher" body count _is_ promiscuous; that's where the context of age, environment, personality, etc. comes into play. Humans are creatures of habit. Past behaviors can often be, but are not absolutely, indicators of future behaviors. People are also capable of radical transformation. The Red…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 02:31 PM
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You need to cite sources when making claims like these. Blindly accepting anything you read online because it aligns with or enhances your own biased perceptions is also how RedPill indoctrinates people. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality) seems to refute your claims: ... most 20th century social anthropologists considered the theory of matrilineal priority untenable,\2])\3) ... hunter-gatherer societies have a flexible philopatry or practice multilocality, which in turn le…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 02:13 PM

Research has often been cited to back up the idea that, perhaps because of their higher testosterone levels, men think more about sex, seek it more actively, and get turned on more easily. Men’s sexuality is like an on-off switch, while women’s sexuality is a complicated network of connections. Right? Actually, no. Not only is the idea that men have higher sex drives an oversimplified notion, but it’s really just not true, Multiple studies show that men’s and women’s sexual desire levels are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:57 PM

Stop spreading misinformation. Multiple studies show that men's and women's sexual desire levels are more similar than different, Maybe women just aren't that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:34 PM
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Your gish galloping is farcically entertaining. ... 40 percent... had said “no” to sex even “when they meant yes.” I'm unsure if you understand this, but 40% is an enormous margin. He advocates for communication and transparency in sexual relations and for both men and women to be upfront and honest about their intentions. You are intentionally misrepresenting his position. This is a very narrow and misguided take on the origins of MRM and MRA. Why didn't you include Putnam's take from 40y befor…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 05:33 PM
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plural noun: roots the... origin of something. adjective: modern relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 05:22 PM
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... He downplays the date rape problem by saying that when a woman says no, it can be mean yes.... ... If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal ‘no’ is committing date rape, then a woman who says `no’ with her verbal language but ‘yes’ with her body language is committing date fraud. And a woman who continues to be sexual even after she says ‘no’ is committing date lying. Do women still do this? Two feminists found the answer is yes. Nearly 40 percent of college women acknowledged they had said “no” t…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 04:57 PM
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The MRM/MRA has no singular "Father" or originating author. The "roots" of MR were forming all over the Western World then. There were over 30 groups in America alone. Looking at the formation of modern MR in the 60s/70s, groups like Free Men/National Coalition for Men advocated for fairness/equality under the law in family/domestic issues. And, of course, the elephant in the room is Warren Farrell, who has been widely considered "The Father" and "The Martin Luther King" of the modern men’s move…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 04:23 PM
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Imagine claiming that Valerie Solanas is "The Mother of Modern Feminism," which then proves its roots are misandrist and anti-male rights because Gail Dines says so. The MRM/MRA has no singular "Father" or originating author. The "roots" of MR were forming all over the Western World then. There were over 30 groups in America alone. Looking at the formation of modern MR in the 60s/70s, groups like Free Men/National Coalition for Men advocated for fairness/equality under the law in family/domestic…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 03:35 PM
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... This is where "theory" and "application" detract... ... there are always "younger, untainted" women to find commitment from. The promiscuous women who fail to find commitment from HVMs are left to the LVM (Betas) or their cats... Your age shows; come back to this when you reach adulthood and have had a few years to mature. We can have a productive conversation once you can comprehend these simple concepts.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/24 02:16 PM
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Yeah, I agree with all of that.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 11:06 PM
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They're not going to be receptive when the non-RPer is trying to lecture the ERP about the definitions of RP concepts (especially when they're wrong) or throwing irrational one-off "gotcha" scenarios at them. It's just going to give them the impression that this sub is just more "woke feminists" telling men about themselves. That's not productive. If this is an actual exredpill space, then differentiating Men's Rights from the harmful RP concepts and the logical deconstruction of those should be…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 09:22 PM
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Well, (non-RP) Men's Rights Movements arose because Men's Rights in marriage/divorce, pregnancy/adoption rights, child custody, domestic violence, education, and social safety, etc., etc. were ignored when laws were codified or the assumption of motherly rights over the father's in the courts. RP frequently uses those as wedge issues for recruiting and justifying its existence. But don't mistake legitimate problems and concerns as equivalent to the plethora of actual misogynistic theories they h…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 09:00 PM
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I missed this reply. First, I reiterated your point on genderless aging. Second, I reiterated your point on "The Wall" being a feeble concept from a surface-level visualization/understanding. There are no misunderstandings here, but feel free to elaborate further. As also noted, in deeper RP content, "The Wall" is more of a "Gate" or "Staircase," something representing a progressive decline in SMV over time. This isn't controversial in RP circles; they joke about non-RPers "taking The Wall liter…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 07:07 PM
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I agree with the deconstruction of RP concepts and beliefs. I wish there were more of that content in this sub. I have seen a little from ex-RPers, but I've seen a lot of non-RPers poorly attempt it, which then ends up backfiring as the potential ex-RPer is left confused/flabbergasted with a rebuttal that is misunderstood or irrational from their perspective. This misguided attempt then reinforces to the potential ex-RPer that this community does not even know what they are talking about, so why…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 06:35 PM
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Yeah, I have seen both. But, in my limited experience here, I have witnessed more of the non-RP venting commentary and arrogance when being corrected by an ex-RPer on RP content than I've seen ex-RPers arrogantly defending an RP concept/take or bandwagoning one. But my perspective may shift over time on that. I would note that being an "exredpill" forum, the default position from non-RPers should be to give the ex-RPers the benefit of the doubt when making claims as to what precisely an RP conce…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 06:21 PM
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Kid, if 80% of RPers today could partner with a serial monogamist woman with a body count of 5 or below, they absolutely would. They would also advocate legal marriage if it were amenable to their expectations of marriage accountability. They believe neither of those situations exists or is probable in modern/current society. They're trying to "reform" society from an RP perspective. This is where "theory" and "application" detract. You must understand that in an RP domain, the HVM (Alphas) alwa…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 06:06 PM
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A pinned post at the top of the forum links to posts/material describing the concepts in various details. In the ex-RP community, there is some expectation of a baseline understanding of the concepts therein, which seems to need to be more robust in this community. The subset of non-RPers making counter-RP claims with 100% confidence, without understanding any/many underlying RP concepts, need to make those posts/comments in a good-faith effort towards understanding and empathy towards ex-RPers.…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 05:35 PM
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First, I've never said "without non-RPers." Second, how would a sub of ex-RPers be just another RP sub? Could you make that make sense? Having a flair for representing ex-RPers, anti-RPers, and RP-curious would provide transparency to those arriving here on the types of perspectives and opinions that arise from all sides, and they would be better able to judge for themselves the relevance or significance of the claims and opinions being shared.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 05:17 PM
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It would be best for you to address both of my points; you didn't. Why is that? Paul Elam is a blowhard. Do you take everything a blowhard says as gospel? He is not the leader of the MRA; he is just one sect. You definitely can pick the worst figures in MRM's history and frame all of modern MRM as based on misogyny - but that approach is misguided and disingenuous at best. How is this angle different from AWALT? It's just AMALT. Are you on a mission to discredit the Men's Rights Movements via an…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 04:25 PM
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That rant was pointless and in no way addressed my comment. I will repeat it, you are confusing MRA's disdain for "modern marriage" with "historical marriage" or even "marriage as a concept." It is possible to advocate against "modern marriage" while still being open to "an RP-aligned version of marriage." In regards to Rollo's opinion: I cannot condone it for men today – not in its present state. Hardline MGTOWs and PUAs agree on one thing, if you ever consider marriage you're Blue Pill. I've w…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 02:19 PM
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This is a very narrow and misguided take on the origins of MRM and MRA. Why didn't you include Putnam's take from 40y before Ernest? Putnam is for woman’s rights but also man’s rights—for everybody’s rights; and, in that spirit, we are going to offer a few hints to our legislators, whose vaulting zeal, on behalf of the ladies, seems a little in danger of overleaping itself, and jolting on t’other side. It is well to stand straight but not well to tumble over backward, in attempting to do so. And…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 11:48 PM
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You failed to add anything substantive to the conversation.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:38 PM
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You're not actually ex-RP. Are you just studying the material you come across? It would help if you slowed down with the "confidence" in your claims when you don't know even half of what you're talking about. It's irresponsible. The only point you got partially correct is that RP doesn't endorse "modern marriages with no accountability for divorce on the female side." That in no way means they are anti-marriage. There are ways to reduce some of those risks. Many prominent figures in RP are marri…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:29 PM
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You're falling into the same trap that RPers do. Men are not a monolith. It's absurd to believe (most) men behave that way. It makes me question your experience with men or the sort of men you tend to befriend. Anyway, most men are looking for stable long-term mates; having sex to figure out sexual compatibility makes complete sense. For RPers, the woman is responsible for choosing whom she sleeps with. If she sleeps around, she's either irresponsible (promiscuous) or naive (easily manipulated),…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:12 PM
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Imagine responding this way towards someone agreeing with your main point. Yeah, thanks for proving you're unhinged. Now, I feel wrong for trying to defend you and giving you the benefit of the doubt...
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:05 PM
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Thanks for reiterating the point with more abstract language. There are many definitions/glossary versions of RP concepts. You quoted a relatively tame one compared to some, so that's fair. For additional context, from Rollo: ... the reason I used 30 as the general age women typically hit the ‘Wall’ is really a combination of factors. Most importantly, it represents the threshold at which most women realize their lessened capacity to sexually compete with the next generation of women [who are] i…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 10:27 PM
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I'm still digesting the rest of your comment, which does seem a little unhinged, but... ... Why are they adamant on bringing up things that are obvious low percentage outlier examples in an effort to discredit the entire argument? I haven't been here long, and I'm starting to notice much of this. As an actual ex-RPer, it feels pretty frustrating. Many posts/comments are not productive, much less accurate claims/arguments; it's just venting with little to no comprehension. It's easy to tell who i…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 08:01 PM
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Yeah, this. It's a tame concept. It's becoming clear that many commenters in these threads aren't ex-RPers. Maybe they came here to learn about RPers or complain about them. Those reasons are relatable, but it's weird when they attack an RP talking point without understanding the concept. It would probably be helpful to have some flair on this forum for actual ex-RPers vs those just interested in the topic...
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 07:24 PM
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Aren't you describing attributes of "The Wall," though? If most marriages happen around 27, even if the average age is increasing, "The Wall" for women starts around 30; this means the average woman is getting married as they approach "The Wall"? This is precisely how RPers describe it. Like u/tinyhermione stated in this comment, I don't think it's disingenuous to objectively recognize that "past 30ish, as everyone ages, the average person's attractiveness tends to wane." That's life. The caveat…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 07:08 PM
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Yeah, there are a lot of outcast/misplaced men who fall into RP and only have a little (if any) experience with women outside of sheer neglect or disdain. However, it's important to take note of experiences like u/DangerStarfish shared here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/1ak7fra/comment/kp78hxn/ The toxic traits described in that scenario apply to a lot of women. There are a lot of toxic/shitty people; many of those people will happen to be women. The book "Psychopath Free" lists 1…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 05:05 PM
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Yeah, this circumstance was fascinating. I'd expect most (core) RPers would dismiss it as an outlier and say we don't know enough about the dynamics of their relationship to make absolute judgment calls. And because their ENM relationship was open on the female side, Destiny was essentially allowing Melina to be vulnerable to emotional manipulation and blackmail. Due to her feminine/emotion-dominant state, she would be incapable of protecting the boundaries around her relationship with Destiny. …
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 10:06 PM
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It did/does get messy when Politics enters into the mix. There was a substantial online push for conservatives into the existing Manosphere/Redpill domain, so much so that Trumpers co-opted the "Redpill" slogan as a "conservative awakening" to counter the "liberal (woke) awakening." It was a complete cluster fuck. It may have tapered down a bit, but there are still remnants of that online, and I suspect it'll get increasingly worse during the next election cycle. I wouldn't pay much significant …
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 09:47 PM
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Good points. Agreed. I wasn't sure from your previous post if you "got it," but here you conveyed both the nuance and how this can rabbit hole well.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 09:28 PM
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You more or less got it, but there are some things we can clarify. ... The only way it would work is if the woman is only into you and only "breaks the rules" with you... In theory, yes. In practice, there is more nuance. This is called "genuine burning desire" if the woman is not conveying this to you by the 3rd date (or whatever subjective timeframe the RPer chooses as appropriate for his SMV). She has consciously (or subconsciously) put you into the discard or friend/backup zone. According to…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 08:01 PM
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This take needs to be more accurate with the RP perspective. This point is easily misunderstood because many "seasonal RP fans" unwittingly convey the same mistaken conclusion. It's not that women with promiscuous histories are "less valuable" than other women; instead, they're "less desirable for marriage / long-term commitment" to both HVM and even to the average male. This does not necessarily make them "less valuable" as people or individuals. It also doesn't mean they're irredeemable. Still…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 07:07 PM
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I can't explain "the wall" or "female contentment" from an RP paradigm more clearly than I already have. I can see you need help grasping the nuances of these concepts and the distinctions between relatively temporary states vs. long-term outcomes. We cannot continue conversing on that topic and still have it meaningful. I've also previously explained why they use marriage statistics for Hypergamy; it's the most common research data available that correlates with status. There is little to no re…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 06:26 PM
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The nuance you're missing in the scenario between HVM and Beta Providers is that the man has more economic resources than the woman in both cases (_on average_). So even when a woman settles for a Beta Provider, it is generally still hypergamous because even the Beta Provider _on average_ has more economic resources than the woman. This is why all of those statistics they cite supposedly "prove" hypergamy in women. The RP theory is that promiscuous HVW wastes their opportunities chasing HVM far …
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 02:08 PM
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I see your confusion. You're trying to contrast the generalities/stereotypes they hold against an individual circumstance. They would hand-wave that away as an outlier (and outliers exist in almost every human statistic/metric). So, they would tell you that you don't live your life based on outliers but on the most likely probabilities of female nature. They would also flood you with counter-anecdotal examples. Also, you're misinterpreting their perspective of "The Wall" and "Hypergamy" a bit. F…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 11:50 PM
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That was my point 😁
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 07:02 PM
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This is such an anecdotal take. Many older, single women in my area are desperate for male attention. Some form small communities, but much of their discourse is complaining about only having access to "bad" men, not being able to find "good" men, and reminiscing about old times, so much so that many of them have been scammed (repeatedly) in their desperate search for online romanticism. I know a smaller subset of older women living relatively purposeful single lives. An exciting aspect with the…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 05:57 PM
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Well said. You stated it so simply and clearly. There are "elements" of positive self-care and self-work that men can latch onto, while the broader framework is entirely misguided. The best lies incorporate elements of the truth.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 05:25 PM
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You're missing a critical aspect of Redpillers. While it can sometimes be about insecurities in individuals, on the whole, it's much more about probabilities. It is a bit like a cult/religion, and one of their commandments is that "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." They drill this mantra into their psyche. This not only makes logical sense, as humans are habitual creatures, but they use various statistics to reaffirm this. The issue is, again, that they turn such probabili…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 05:18 PM
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It's incredible how many exredpillers in here don't understand the simple premise of this. Thank you for trying to adequately explain it to them without simply dismissing it. There is no contradiction. It's not an "indoctrination technique." Redpillers observe behaviors from a subset/minority of women and apply them to women as a whole. It is a black/white fallacy and a shallow stereotype. Observing those behaviors is not wrong, but applying them to the majority is. It should not be this difficu…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 05:02 PM
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A majority of people would not tolerate a vile/disgusting personality simply because they have money. So, individual traits are not "as valid as any other criteria" for most people. There are always outliers, of course, but the topic here is about generalities. Maybe you're just an outlier, but you shouldn't mistake your personal feelings with the majority.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 04:50 PM
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Nonsense. The average size vibrator/dildo sold is between 4-6". Maybe in your circles/media, the average is larger, but not statistically. And even with 7-8" ones, women use the extra length for better grip/leverage. It's generally not all about insertion depth... unless you're watching porn, which is not a relevant sample for the average woman.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 03:11 PM

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Re-read my previous comment; slowly, this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:07 PM

I've known many women who ask their friends not to let them make the same mistake as last time, i.e., sleeping with random men. When friends intervene, but they fuck around anyway, the friend can at least say, "Hey, I tried." In my experience, this is more common than not. It has nothing to do with being jealous, although I'm sure that happens to a lesser extent. At the end of the night, promiscuous women are going to be slutty; friends or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:31 PM
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