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You can find tonnes of discussions about just about anything on Mumsnet, it's a big site.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:39 AM
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The forums you read are also self-selecting communities. Women who have a different taste to what's being discussed won't bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:37 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:35 AM
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It's not "weird" for something to not match whatever your experience is. I think you're trying to make everything fit your own perception of your own life, which won't work. I don't want to talk about your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:34 AM
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I just don't think you like someone very much if you're planning to leave them the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:41 PM
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Then you wouldn't date them in the first place. Again, if he wanted a childfree woman to date he'd just pick one he liked and stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:01 PM
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I don't know or care about your life. No need to take things personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:00 PM
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While they may seem surface level "mature", they do feel and act their age beyond that. They're not there for older people to take advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:28 PM
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No. If I for some reason wanted to birth a child, I'd only ever want to make one with my husband. I like him, you see. I don't care how "genetically fit" he is. I also don't want to cheat on him, because as I said before, I like him. (And I guess I'd have to leave him for a "man with resources" to achieve this too, but that's besides the point.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:24 PM
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If you're choosing a relationship to deal with trauma you're probably best off without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:21 PM
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It certainly is rarer to find with vastly different ages though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:59 PM
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You know that unhealthy relationships generally involve people harming each other, like through cheating and abuse? Those aren't ethical. I've never personally done it so idk if I personally like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:21 PM
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I believe it was mentioned on The Student Room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:09 PM
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I think we all have a reasonable understanding of what a healthy relationship may look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:08 PM
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You were the first person to bring up ethics, and an unhealthy relationship can be unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:06 PM
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You're far less likely to be compatible with someone who's a different age than the same age. Compatibility is emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:00 PM
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Well, you have made it your business by discussing it, which we're both allowed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:59 PM
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Or 16!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:57 PM
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Generally that is how relationships work, or good and healthy ones at least. Obviously it's not needed for a relationship, but that relationship is likely to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:53 PM
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Compatibility is required for a healthy relationship and a middle-to-old-aged person with the maturity of a teenager is worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:47 PM
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Apart from his clear plans to discard them like clockwork. That's not something you do when you care about someone. You actually don't want to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:18 PM
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I didn't say anything about their choices. I was just pondering whether Leonardo DiCaprio actually liked them very much, and it doesn't seem like he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:14 PM
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The brain development thing is odd as obviously our brains change and develop our whole lives but what they're getting at is that fundamentally people who are decades in age apart aren't thinking about or prioritising the same things as they're not in the same life stage, and the chance they will be compatible is slim unless one of them is so immature it's worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:13 PM
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If you actually like someone, a breakup over incompatible life choices is heartbreaking, and it's just not something anyone would choose on purpose. He could just date women who don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:09 PM
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One date every three months is plenty! Dating apps and media aren't giving a picture of most people's lives,ost women don't even use dating apps and fictional media is, well, fictional. And I think you're making a lot of assumptions about what women are doing and thinking in relationships, certainly men aren't doing all the heavy lifting. Get out of the echo chamber yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:47 PM
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He doesn't have any children as far as I'm aware. He's also not staying with them, he's leaving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:40 PM
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Gay male porn is usually more hardcore than other types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:23 PM
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I keep being told that porn taste means absolutely nothing for what you like in real life and watchers can separate reality from fiction easily. At the very least watching a porn video doesn't mean you want to recreate it exactly. I think straight women like lesbian porn because straight porn is made for straight men and generally involves a man overpowering a woman focusing on his pleasure, which hits too close to home. Lesbian porn tends to be gentler and they can more easily pretend the actre…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:21 PM
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What do you want, to open some app and order a sex partner who fits your taste and will sleep with you despite not knowing you like a pizza? I think it should be reasonably hard, actually. But then again, I think that sex should be meaningful. Both partners do the dance, creating meaning, not a simple proposition and a yea or no, that's an actual human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:11 PM
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Yes, he ritualistically discards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:12 PM
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Believe them or not, they're not telling you a thing about how they see themselves there. I don't think anyone thinks women don't lie or exaggerate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:16 AM
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Same as with anyone else: don't date them or get physically intimate with them, obviously. Otherwise I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:12 AM
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Most of the statistics on maps of this kind are essentially completely made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:04 AM
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He clearly doesn't find them that attractive, otherwise he wouldn't ritualistically discard them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:56 AM
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Men do demand it. Many fathers would be incredibly disappointed not to walk with their daughters at their weddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:44 AM
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Yes, any time there's been any pursuing going on I've been the one doing it. The time it worked was with my husband. We were close friends and then I asked him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:39 AM
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I'm 24, there has only been one. We met through mutual friends from university at a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:36 AM
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Then they're not telling you a thing about how they see themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:35 AM
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Oddly, I actually live in a student housing block that's mainly filled with first year undergrads. It's not quite what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:19 PM
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You're talking about celebrities, not normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:38 PM
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You're calling other people worthless so freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:01 PM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:10 PM
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You haven't talked to very many women at all, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:39 PM
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Women's self-confidence is rubbish on average, no they don't usually think they're the prize at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:29 PM
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Me too. Basically all medicines can be taken in another form like liquid or patches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:26 PM
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I've only really come across people who've done it because one of both had a significant move. So either they do it at a location tied to them and most count it as a destination wedding (I did this) or they go to an unrelated location because most would have to travel anyway so might as well make it somewhere nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:24 PM
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They're usually not very compatible, as a relationship tends to go smoother if you both have the same views on sex and relationships which is generally reflected in behaviour. People instinctively know this, and are also more likely to meet someone similar to them in the first place, which is why such pairings aren't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:14 PM
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Hardly anyone at all, male or female, wants a partner who's either so up themselves or desires to be with their partner so little that they think they're the prize and their partner should be grateful to be with them or whatever. Do you even want to be with a partner you don't even see as worthy of you? Surely you should aim for a relationship where you each see the other as a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:10 PM
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Do you really think sex addiction is that much of a risk? It's pretty rare considering how many people have sex. Most people are limited enough by their refractory period. If you were an addict you could just have PIV over and over again I suppose, it would be best for all involved if there weren't unwanted children coming from that addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:40 AM
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What do you mean by shared parenting guidelines, those weren't even considered feminist groups they were just women, surely that one would apply to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:38 AM
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Could you give an example of a feminist group "blocking equality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:33 PM
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You kneel to give oral? That certainly isn't the most comfortable way to do it for either party.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:17 PM
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Far from a consensus, but you certainly believe it. Many people do believe that you can't be broken or inferior just because you're both with a condition out of your control, and instead it's better to judge people by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:15 PM
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Do you expect any other pro-equality movement to focus on other groups? Should gay rights activists fight for straight people? Should BLM advocate for white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:14 PM
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People just don't care that much in general, and aren't going to make a video or comment saying they're just not that bothered about something. Tiktok is very popular so it's easy to get lots of likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:28 PM
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I'm Irish actually but I've lived in England for over five years. You seem to be the only person I've ever met to not be affected by the extreme weather we've been getting in the summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:27 PM
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It's okay to have sex without wanting children, you can just do it for enjoyment. Only one kind of sex is even able to produce children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:26 PM
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The tiktok algorithm is not driving anywhere near a representative sample to comment on any given video.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:09 PM
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I don't know what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:06 PM
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Calling me stupid doesn't make what you say seem any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:03 PM
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I've never actually received a negative reaction from another woman to my proposal. But those willing to comment on tiktoks in hateful ways of course aren't representative of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:44 PM
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I proposed, and I knelt. It speaks to a romantic tradition and symbolises that you're not too proud to lower yourself before your partner, that you trust them enough to be vulnerable, just once. If you don't want to kneel, plenty of people do it standing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:42 PM
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I do! I even gave an example. Here's another: I call my friend a fish because it gets on his nerves, even though it doesn't even make any sense. If some people found it insulting to be beautiful or a stud then others would call them that as an insult. (We would call people a toff as an insult here, because it can on their nerves! Some people don't actually like being reminded they're rich and privileged!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:38 PM
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But not so many that there are as many autistic women as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:36 PM
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You can't be biologically broken or inferior. Those are value judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:36 PM
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Just heatwaves from June to August.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:35 PM
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You know that feminism is a movement for advancing the rights of women, right? Of course it's not going to do something that's anti-women on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:53 PM
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Do you live really far north or do you not experience heat like other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:52 PM
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I strongly prefer dark hair and eyes - but they're also much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:32 PM
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Nobody goes clubbing in shitty baggy clothes, you'd get kicked out of many London clubs for not dressing appropriately. And it gets hot in nightclubs, definitely not the place for layers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:16 PM
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By "brief time" you mean the summer? It's also usually best to wear light clothing that covers most of your body in summer to avoid sunburn, just look at how people who live in hotter areas tend to dress, head coverings aren't the worst idea (you can wear what you want obviously but do be mindful of the sun).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:29 PM
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Many women come at it from the perspective of "regardless of what I wear I may be harassed, so I might as well wear something I like". They may also not realise that what we wear (male or female) is primarily influenced by other people's opinions of it. I can count on one hand the people who've ever harassed or hit on me so it's not exactly at the forefront of my mind when I'm dressing myself personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:25 PM
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My husband and I actually discussed this, we decided we'd just have oral and manual (hand) sex as we don't want children. It'd be less exciting without the wider range of options that toys, lube and condoms give us, but perfectly satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:22 PM
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Most would say there's plenty of overlap, just like being feminist and anti-war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:03 PM
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18.4.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:50 PM
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It's literally the same text you quoted and then misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:46 AM
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Are you deliberately acting dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:32 AM
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You added two separate percentages together and one of them definitely does not apply to women who aren't getting their clitoris touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:06 AM
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How about you tell me which number orgasm without their clitoris being touched? Which was your argument in case you've forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:36 AM
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Just read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:26 AM
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That is literally the point of work. No you are not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:15 AM
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He's not just "dressing like" a slob, he is a slob who is presumably not washing his clothes. He's dressing like a broke student who hasn't made friends with the washing machine and he's probably going to expect her to do all his chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:13 AM
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If you did, you would tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:11 AM
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The statistics you just failed to interpret.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:05 AM
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I wouldn't see a disability as brokenness or genetic inferiority. It's just that women are more likely to have some conditions, like depression, and men are more likely to have others, like autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:04 AM
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Reread it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:02 AM
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I really don't think that who proposed would have that kind of alienating effect. Nobody cares that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:57 AM
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Oh I absolutely know what it is. What a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:21 PM
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What am I supposed to be uncertain or confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:31 PM
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The main part of getting men off you mean. Most women cannot orgasm that way. Instead of multitasking he could touch the clitoris before or after as a separate activity of he wants to claim to be doing any work for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:30 PM
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Okay, there has not been a draft in the UK or Ireland, which exist, for decades, you have access to the internet if you genuinely want to know about the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:27 PM
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Oh no, you think it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:24 PM
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Again, I can't think of any specific examples because neither of my countries have had a draft since WW2, but you have access to the internet yourself if you're genuinely interested in anti-war protests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:21 PM
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Probably look into examples of anyone protesting the draft and you will find many feminists. I don't have any to hand personally as there's no draft in either of my countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:14 PM
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Men absolutely care about how other men see them even if women don't like it, sometimes they convince themselves these things are attractive to women though. (For example, bodybuilding and sports cars.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:12 PM
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Feminists can be against the draft without the draft being a feminist cause, which obviously it isn't as it applies either equally to men and women, or just to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:03 PM
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Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:01 PM
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Why are you expecting a movement with the goal of advancing women's rights to fix men's issues? Do you expect vegan groups to fix racism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:58 PM
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Derailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:56 PM
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Wrong movement. It would be the anti-war movement or something similar organising that action, but many, maybe even the majority, of members of that movement would also be feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:56 PM
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OP is still having casual sex and placing importance on it. You are still trying to argue with me that it's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:53 PM
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Okay, you're not an expert either? You don't know what any man's life is like except your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:52 PM
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Face, eyes (not deepness but colour and shape), bum, hairstyle, legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:45 PM
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Do you have a mum or sister or something who likes taking pictures? I hate posed photos of myself but my candids look okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:44 PM
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A good insult is one that bothers the insultee, regardless of what the insulter thinks about it. For example, I annoy my sister about having light eyebrows, even though I couldn't give a flying fuck about anyone's eyebrow shade, because she cares about it. Obviously men put quite a bit of weight on how many different people they've had sex with and often form a hierarchy around comparing themselves to other men in that regard, and women know this and see it as a good insult to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:40 PM
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Having loads it isn't going to reduce its importance to you. Quite the opposite actually. Which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:35 PM
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It would be good for him not to tie his identity and mental health state to casual sex. Having more casual sex will, if anything, make this problem worse. Obviously sex and sex drive are not make believe, but that doesn't mean you should just do whatever you want and expect no negative consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:34 PM
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It's called disagreeing. You're allowed to do that in a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:31 PM
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I don't think it's enough to make up the whole diagnosis gap, especially as many without diagnoses we're just assuming are autistic, but could have another condition. Masking is also a skill that not everyone has or even can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:31 PM
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That's attraction developing over time, which isn't forced, you still can't choose it. Spending more time with someone means you know more about them, which could make them more attractive to you but could also make them more unattractive. There aren't always tops or bottoms in gay relationships or straight ones, lipstick lesbians and masc 4 masc are both especially common. Unless you just mean in the sense that if you put any two people in a room, one will be a bit more masculine. I'm not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:28 PM
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This gets claimed a lot, but never with any evidence or even an anecdote attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:11 PM
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I'd imagine it's probably because there are more autistic men than autistic women, so there aren't enough autistic women or others who might want to date an autistic person to go around. Even if you're accepting of autistic people, you may not be a good match for someone with a distinct communication style and restrictive sensory needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:56 PM
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Even if it was biological, we live in a civilised society, where you don't just act according to your instincts. We learn to eat with utensils instead of just using our hands, and not to be gross about what physical traits we are or aren't attracted to. It's usually best to keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:53 PM
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Say what you want but you're not going to normalise incest. Even people in those relationships have a gut response that something is very wrong. And of course if they're different generations then there is an inherent power imbalance that never goes away, if someone is your parent, aunt, uncle, or grandparent they always have that role and will not be on a peer level. I think this is also true of the relationship between older and younger siblings. (Cousins is a bit different but it's a bit more…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:44 PM
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It's really unfortunate due to how many children are born from those marriages with severe disabilities. It's not so risky to have a child with your cousin, but if both of you are children of cousin marriages, the gene pool is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:40 PM
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You don't need to have casual sex. You need to work with your need for validation, harmful ideas about sex, or whatever other things are going on to push you to think you must have it and choose it even when you don't really want to. Having casual sex is not going to help you to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:37 PM
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Most of the work to get himself off you mean. If he's not even touching his partner's clit he's putting in zero effort for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:33 PM
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So friendless women, or women who just aren't very close with their friends, just don't exist to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:31 PM
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A lot of men get very insecure over being told they need to improve sexually, and a lot of people find it awkward to talk about in general. I'd imagine she may say something like "you need to touch my clit more".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:29 PM
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It is a relationship problem, it is causing a problem in her relationship. Most likely they just need to talk to their husband about what they like, then the sex will improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:43 PM
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They're usually just throwing words around without really knowing what they mean, making up the definitions as they go along.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:58 AM
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Have you ever made yourself be attracted to someone you weren't attracted to? Attraction isn't just about being masculine or feminine and idk what truths you think there are (sometimes straight men define "feminine" as "whatever I'm personally attracted to" which is likely what you're doing).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:50 AM
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Obviously for men it's a different kind of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:47 AM
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So that is a pension? Idk the other abbreviations either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:46 AM
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Is IRA in American like a pension? Means a terrorist organisation where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:55 PM
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You can't actually get divorced before being married for one year where I'm from. Only an annulment, if you're eligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:49 PM
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My sister is nineteen, and in a relationship, and will only date someone who's also Irish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:38 PM
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I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:14 PM
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Basically everyone shares funds with their partner if they live together. I'm not sure what statistics you're talking about and have a feeling I won't find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:07 PM
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Men who aren't deadbeats also produce sperm. Condoms fail sometimes, as do other contraceptives. Having an abortion would be taking accountability. I didn't ask if you would rape someone and I don't know why you'd think that. I asked what you'd do if you could never have sex without fully accepting pregnancy and birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:05 PM
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No, any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:03 PM
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Pregnancy and birth can kill and it does change your body significantly and permanently, those are just facts. Most women think that's worth it and like having children but it's a lot to give up if it's the wrong time or situation or you don't even want any children in the first place. It's a lot to ask, and completely unrealistic, for someone to never have sex ever if they don't want a child, and it could just happen nonconsensually anyway. (Would you do that?) No blaming men here, there are an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:30 PM
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The date or flight is just a different kind of gift so it's really about which they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:24 PM
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Men call women "pot bellied" when their stomachs aren't perfectly flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:22 PM
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Maybe he's watched Alien?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:20 PM
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If you're the default parent then you often simply don't have time or mental space to worry about your own health never mind your looks, especially as most will work now on top of being expected to do nearly all the childcare when they're not working. You'll eat more due to stress, have barely time to cook never mind get something healthy, and you can forget about even thinking about exercise for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:18 PM
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Imagine if you had something inside your body that could kill you and would certainly alter your life and body forever. You could remove it without it feeling or thinking anything at all but you were banned because "it's murder" in someone else's opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:13 PM
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The wage gap is closing. More women are breadwinners than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:40 PM
8

These "points" are not made by "feminism". These studies are believed by some feminists. Some feminists believe vaccines are bad for you, or eating animals is wrong, and I don't agree with them on that, but obviously I can be a feminist regardless. They're not even studies on anything fundamental to the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:39 PM
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See, I'd take issue with those comments if everything went as you say. I think the response to the other person was more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:35 PM
5

I'm not part of the group due to agreeing about some random scientific study. That is not the point of the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:35 PM
5

Asian women have similar PTSD rates to veterans here in England.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:34 PM
1

Even if you seriously believed that you could be a feminist. There isn't widespread slavery in my country but I can still be anti-slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:32 PM
3

Feminism isn't an academic movement, it's a civil rights activist movement. It's not about truth or answers, it's concerned with furthering a moral cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:31 PM
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Well, what would that question even achieve? You can't force a feeling like attraction and even top science has barely scratched the surface of how it works and why we may feel that way, love is one of the greatest human mysteries. It's not like she can just reconsider then suddenly start feeling attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:26 PM
1

Those are both a no and go down similarly. You can try to continue the relationship, but they never do actually continue very long...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:15 PM
1

But if course it's an implied ultimatum! Usually saying no leads to a breakup. Few people ever ask twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:11 PM
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The credibility of feminism doesn't rely on science. It is a moral position that the subjugation of women is wrong and something should be done about it. It's not a claim of scientific or social-scientific fact, although those facts may affect what action we think is best to be done to tackle the subjugation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:07 PM
12

And yet the OKCupid study will continue to be cited here daily...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:05 PM
1

I thought people would be rude to us too. But they actually weren't!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:37 PM
3

Well, obviously nobody wants a proposal to be turned down and it will harm a relationship perhaps irreparably if that happens, so I guess you could call all proposals coercive. It's probably best to know you're at that point rather than nobody says anything and someone spends years waiting for a marriage that doesn't come and wasting time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:36 PM
1

Wouldn't lying about being proposed to and treating it as something shameful put more strain on your relationship than someone else possibly making a rude comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:30 PM
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I don't think it does signal impatience unless you're implying she's doing it just because she thinks her partner will take a long time, and I've never actually heard of anyone proposing for that reason. There's nothing wrong with being unconventional, in a good marriage you will pick conventions that you like and make sense rather than being a stickler for imaginary rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:23 PM
2

She doesn't need to nag. Do you think when men do it as per usual they're nagging?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:25 PM
2

Because you can't afford to pay for two houses at once? I guess that makes most people losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:25 PM
1

If you can't even find someone you're compatible with who has the same culture as you, what hope do you have with someone culturally different?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:09 AM
4

What would be the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:07 AM
1

That was not what I asked. I asked if you would consider women who do this for partners who earn more than them to be maids, chefs, and therapists, just as you already consider them to be prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:19 AM
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You are not talking about prostitution. It'd be a lot easier for you to talk about the thing that's clearly bothering you if you stopped trying to make it fit the wrong definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:18 AM
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Women cleaning, cooking and providing therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:12 AM
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It doesn't make you a loser to be in that situation temporarily, it's just unfortunate on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:12 AM
1

Prostitutes leave because they're only paid to be there for a certain amount of time, usually about an hour, according to their contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:11 AM
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It may not be a good marriage (idk who these people are so can't comment) but she's still not being subsidised through the act of living with her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:09 AM
1

Choose any woman you like who does do those roles if you think it doesn't happen in your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:08 AM
1

Imo it's not really fair to make what someone else names themselves into a dealbreaker, especially if you're expecting them to change their name - although tbf the arrangement you want is the default anyway so it probably won't become a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:07 AM
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How on earth do you know the opinions of everyone in your whole country and why do you think opinions on you change at the exact point of an international border?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:59 AM
1

Wanting to share your life with your spouse is not a "subsidy".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:58 AM
1

So are they all maids? And chefs? And therapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:57 AM
1

Men do benefit from gender roles. That doesn't mean their lives are all perfect and they don't experience any problems for any other reason. The benefits can even come with unintended downsides. You're appealing to emotion again (just think of all the dead men before doing this again)!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:56 AM
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You don't control who likes you, so why do you think people in another country would like you if not a soul in your own country does?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:52 AM
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Anything that's sold is a product. Prostitution is selling sex (for "financial resources" AKA money). Why have you decided that they're prostitutes and not maids as their cleaning resources are being exchanged (by your definition) also?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:51 AM
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Welsh, but I wouldn't tell anyone I knew it, just to find out what one of my good friends is talking about when he switches around other Welsh people. Or maybe I would tell him and we could be the ones having the secret Welsh conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:47 AM
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Housing is expensive and tough to find in many places, and you can't get out of a mortgage or rental agreement immediately. It must be so awkward to be in that situation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:42 AM
1

As in your last name is non-negotiable or her last name is also non-negotiable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:38 AM
2

Men still proposed in places with dowries, where marrying a woman would give him money!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:36 AM
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Historically, men would often propose to their prospective spouse's dads (still done in some places or nodded to by the practice of asking for a blessing/permission) as marriages were seen as a transfer of bride from dad to husband. Engagement rings came in because women were taking on risk - if her husband abandoned her and their children, she had something to sell that would help to keep them afloat for a bit. It's an interesting idea that the primary breadwinner should be the one proposing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:36 AM
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Asking the person you love to stay with you for the rest of your lives, how... embarrassing? It's not humiliating when you want to do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:19 AM
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Aren't women usually seen as the ones responsible for the family and its cohesion? What about personality differences anyway, surely there are women who are your definition of responsible?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:14 AM
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I proposed. It made sense to me the same way it makes sense to men I supposed: I wanted to make a show of making my husband feel super special. We did have a discussion before the proposal - for any couple, I think that's wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:04 AM
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You'd be surprised. My family and friends were super supportive, including some who consider themselves "traditional". Turns out people who want to see you happy aren't likely to care all that much, and even if people find it a bit weird they're hardly likely to care enough to be mean about it. It was a really awesome moment and nobody looked like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:59 AM
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You'd really want to ruin her moment by surprise like that? Not a great start to a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:57 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:54 AM
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But still very bad at noticing them, as they only have one more thing in common, which won't get them very far.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:53 AM
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None of those are prostitution, even if the relationships are unhealthy. The people who pretend to be friends of rich people in order to try to get their inheritance aren't for that reason paid actors. Products aren't sold merely through thoughts and intent, they are sold through exchange of cash for a named service. If you think they'd like to be prostitutes that's neither here nor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:52 AM
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You were the one appealing to emotion and shaming. (People died because of this! Please listen to my point now!) You've forced a bizarre narrative on these things, obviously they don't just happen due to gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:49 AM
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Are they people who gave up on dating in their own country because it was too hard and they'd never have any chance in America, moved to another country for the purpose of getting the date they couldn't find in, again, their whole country, and found a spouse there? Or did they just happen to find someone who was from a different country to themselves? If you're genuinely going to stay alone if you stay in your country because nobody there is to your taste/wants you, you are a serious edge case w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:46 AM
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Who's to say it will be any different? Of course you think these silly, backwards "foreign" people will be falling over these people from your country who apparently nobody from the whole country even wants. But who says you'll like anyone elsewhere if a whole country of people aren't to your taste?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:25 PM
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What an insult to these people to use what happened to them as a way to try to prove your point and force a narrative on it that doesn't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:23 PM
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Because they've accepted that's the best they can get. Otherwise no attraction would likely be expressed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:51 PM
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They would love to be loved for anything other than their looks, yet they know that's often unrealistic, so better improve your looks and draw attention to them to have a shot at love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:27 PM
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They would love, so much, to be wanted for anything but their body. They want their body to be irrelevant so badly. They would be ecstatic to be loved no matter what they look like because their body doesn't matter. They want to be desired for who they are. They don't want to be called ugly and told their body looks unattractive because that shows that their body does matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:34 PM
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Women YEARN to be loved regardless of how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:14 PM
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Then you're using some bizarre source, or no source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:07 PM
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Women DREAM of being wanted for their personality. It is the ultimate romantic fantasy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:47 PM
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Are you for some reason not counting child sexual abuse as child abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:43 PM
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I'm sure you feel that way, but it's nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:43 PM
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It's very straightforward when someone is paying for something. With any other product, you don't accuse someone of buying it just by being rich and having it shared with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:42 PM
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This falls apart when you realise basically anyone in any relationship will share money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:18 PM
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I got to know him a lot as a friend. We were very close. The information I learned about him after asking him out was significant and contained things that may have been dealbreakers that I didn't know before. It's a whole other side of his personality I also had to get along with. It's not just about being one-dimensional "good" or "bad", people can be incompatible in various ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:17 PM
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Under some weird kind of definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:15 PM
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My husband and I were before our relationship and still are very close friends. There was definitely information revealed after our relationship became romantic. Sure, we knew the all facts about each other you'd tell a best friend, but not the intimate details you'd only tell a partner (not necessarily sexual but just a different kind of vulnerable). We each had no idea how the other would be in terms of sex, or what it would be like to live together. I got to know an even sweeter, cuter, more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:54 PM
0

Literally in none of them, not even fourthwavewomen, will you find the majority saying straight sex is rape. Most of the members have had straight sex for Christ's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:48 PM
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Come on, be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:45 PM
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I doubt that very many employed people would seriously stay with a permanent NEET. And something being a deal-breaker doesn't make it the basis of your relationship, I've never wanted to be with someone just because I think they wouldn't cheat but I sure would leave them if they did!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:41 PM
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Prostitution is having sex for money not having sex with someone who has money. If I bake a cake for my friend and they give me a gift I wasn't their chef. If I crochet a cardigan for my husband and he also helps pay the bills I'm not his fashion designer. If my husband likes that I'm employed, likes that I pay the rent, and wouldn't choose someone jobless (groundbreaking stuff I know) he isn't a prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:40 PM
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The people who are claiming that women all like rapists are not any kind of feminist and would call themselves quite the opposite. They don't believe that straight sex is rape either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:26 PM
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They're not local government employees. They are school or academy employees just like teachers. The council can't do a thing about their pay so can't be pursued legally about it. You have not given any cases that include TAs. There have been pay strikes and other union action from teaching staff on state sector pay but gender has barely been a factor (believe me, I've been in both the main unions and gender in relation to pay has never been mentioned despite copious emails surrounding pay and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:25 PM
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I suppose I don't know whether I know child abusers (not sure why you're saying women specifically), although it's less scary as I'm not a child. As someone with a safeguarding duty though I know that it's fundamental to assume anyone can abuse a child and I'm expected to think that of my colleagues. I wasn't allowed to walk around my workplace unaccompanied until my DBS check came through!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:19 PM
1

How about he doesn't take anyone's mind reading skills seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:18 PM
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It's not a position that you or I believe in so there's no point using it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:17 PM
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The whole thing about rape is that you don't consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:47 AM
1

Maybe dominant men need even more extreme women. I could fix them ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:34 AM
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These cannot be changed or settled on a localised basis. (Also note that they're FTE and as TAs are not paid during holidays they will earn a lot less.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:20 AM
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https://neu.org.uk/advice/member-groups/support-staff/pay-scales-support-staff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:19 AM
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This "friend at the bar" is just going to be making stuff up. She can't read other people's minds either but what she's saying won't be verifiable so you'll believe it. Same thing with "translating" screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:43 AM
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Where is that premise even coming from? Are women more attracted to rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:40 AM
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Do you seriously think you would always know? It's not like they're usually going to tell you that they're doing that kind of thing. Statistically speaking we all do know rapists, likely some are close to us, but we don't know who they are which is the scary part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:38 AM
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TA pay, like teachers' pay, is set by a pay scale (except in private schools). These pay scales are set by central government, not councils. The entirety of England except for London uses one pay scale, and there are separate pay scales for inner and outer London. TAs are not considered local government, they are employees of a school, trust, or agency. Someone bringing up a point about gender once has not translated to TAs being paid any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:35 AM
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No, I'm bisexual. I asked women out and wanted to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:30 AM
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What kind of "respect" even is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:28 AM
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They're probably family members. People don't tend to keep relationships or friendships in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:37 PM
1

Well oddly enough you don't get to be popular if people don't like you. Children who are into sport tend to socialise more through it and learn teamwork which helps them get along with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:35 PM
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Don't believe everything you read online. I know for a fact teaching assistants aren't even paid by councils, nor are they paid much beyond minimum wage and they haven't had any pay award related to gender or well... anything, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:33 PM
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My ring is like a couple of hundred pounds, if a potential partner only had that much in savings and then blew it that I'd seriously reconsider marrying someone who's so poor with money. And couldn't he donate to something more directly useful like the food bank instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:30 PM
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You would get yourself out of bed at night and go to the toilet just to fart?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:23 PM
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If the amount they respect you is based on thinking you're a good fuck, they don't respect you much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:07 PM
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Nobody said anything about satisfying, just not the best. Some of those will be joint best, not the best but still great, or the nebulous "prefer not to say" option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:55 PM
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It's the same thing that men are doing. You're acting like men are doing crazy gymnastics in bed. You were the one who backtracked from originally saying women did nothing during sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:12 PM
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Most people are subsidised by taxes unless they're a top earner (I believe it's top 10%). The population of London subsidises the whole United Kingdom, should they get treats out of my taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:11 PM
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What are they going to do for me and why can't I just buy it myself if I want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:09 PM
1

Half is not low.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:08 PM
1

To be clear, by movement, I have very much meant grinding, thrusting and other sex movements, not just fidgeting or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:15 PM
2

Treatment can cost nothing, or if you're unlucky enough to have to pay for healthcare you may have enough to afford both. If you can't get money together then obviously you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:08 PM
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It's lower, I thought I'd have a couple of serious partners in early adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:00 PM
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There are very few circumstances where it's polite to state that, even neutrally. (Really it's only if asked.) Nobody wants to hear about the finer details of your sexual preferences in general, it's best to just keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:58 PM
5

Different people are claiming different things. There's your explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:56 PM
0

It means they live together and he doesn't want to propose for ages, probably ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:53 PM
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There's no reason to believe it isn't the other way around - the half who sees their spouse as their best friend are also the half that sees them as their best lay. And nothing to suggest that it's not a perfect overlap, with say 30% with best friends-best lays and 20% with best friends- not best lays. People who don't know how statistics work really shouldn't talk about them so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:52 PM
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You asked me to dig out links for you to not read that aren't even needed to prove the point I actually made, I'm under No obligation to do that work for you. No thanks, I had a long day at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:44 PM
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Since when has the red pill been based in scientific data? I've read the sidebar; it's filled with emotions, personal anecdotes, and fictional stories. That is the basis of what any red pill creator says, they just tell stories. I know you feel it's rational and scientific and like to use economics words but it's not any less emotional than what you're criticising; it's just your emotions. I'd be curious about how these "studies" you're referencing define being more emotional - I doubt they pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:42 PM
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There are people who could be more bothered than me who have dug these things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:34 PM
5

Just random data?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:26 PM
1

How many Reddit relationship problems could be solved by the couple having just one conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:24 PM
14

It's so funny how the red pill earnestly and emotionally believes it's group A.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:19 PM
4

I'm bisexual (how is accusing me of homophobia even relevant) and all for keeping our free healthcare, but this isn't healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:17 PM
1

I wish this was the case but unfortunately not. Being romantically rejected hurt less than being bullied and disowned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:15 PM
3

Those are breast reductions. Saves the NHS money for back issues in the long term. Only risk of being bald is your head could get cold, which is easily remedied by wearing a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:13 PM
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Those are breast reductions. Saves the NHS money for back issues in the long term. Only risk of being bald is your head could get cold, which is easily remedied by wearing a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:13 PM
9

That's a bold claim to make without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:22 PM
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Why should I pay taxes for you to feel affirmed? If I wanted plastic surgery or new clothes to affirm my gender I'd have to fund it myself, but coming to peace with yourself is far cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:20 PM
1

I don't know much about those parties, and it isn't an issue of just one party or side having systematic sexism. All major parties across the world do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:19 PM
1

Yeah, I prefer feminine to androgynous in both, but it's not a game changer. I feel like straight people can't compute that we just don't have unbreakable gender-based attraction rules. (Tbf I don't understand how bring straight or gay works fully either.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:16 PM
1

Many men here think a man simply interacting with a woman means he's "clearly into her".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:14 PM
1

Moving around the bed is literally all that men have to do during sex. That's kind of just what sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:12 PM
1

Be serious, you have not seen a study on this. Again if a man doesn't like what his partner is doing during sex he's perfectly capable of talking to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:56 AM
1

And other women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:55 AM
1

19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 13 and 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:46 AM
2

It's rude to ghost. Are you talking about flirtatious DMs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:44 AM
1

I assumed it was personal as you have no way of knowing what's happening in general. So you're saying the women are putting in effort and moving now but maybe not the way you like? You could just use your words and communicate what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:42 AM
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If you actually want to sleep with this person and are having a good time you're unlikely to just lie there doing absolutely nothing. People who are turned on want to move around and enjoy it, it's not only something they do under threat. No offence but these women you're sleeping with seem to be waiting for it to be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:31 AM
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Even if the woman is incredibly low skill and just lying down not moving the whole time (if you're coming across all these partners who are like that you really should check if they're okay, they don't sound like they're having fun either), she's still producing any orgasm and her skill is affecting the orgasm (making the chance lower).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:48 AM
10

Nobody was talking about just talking here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:37 AM
1

If you're doing it yourself, you're masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:34 AM
4

I think you're underestimating the benefit of being out and just not having to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:33 AM
3

Even if you think that's most bi men, you can at least recognise that the bisexual community is more diverse than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:31 AM
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They benefit from these roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:30 AM
2

We're talking about the skill to make him finish, not to make his partner finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:29 AM
0

I'm not going to respond to you any more as you have called me stupid. Believe me, it doesn't make you look more intelligent or add any weight to your claim, which is rather outlandish to present without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:49 PM
1

I can imagine that very well. I also don't need to imagine; men do that, quite a lot actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:46 PM
1

Please don't use the word "statistically" if you're going to say that a range of data is any kind of average. You're thinking about the medical, probably, which would be the value in the middle of that range of a normal distribution (I assume that's what you're referring to with the 68%). This data set wouldn't be a normal distribution though so you're just very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:44 PM
2

There's a much simpler explanation for the orgasm gap. It's not that huge portions of women have hidden health conditions from "excessively masturbating".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:38 PM
1

What's the point of restricting your dating pool to a tiny (come on, you don't really believe that statistic either) section of what it could be before even considering if the people in it are your type or not? Some straight people will be into you and some won't be but that's just like any other kind of person, it doesn't mean you should just stay away from them entirely. Bisexual isn't a stance on gender roles and it's not a political opinion. We are in fact people just like straight and gay p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:36 PM
1

Some bisexuals have a preference for masculinity and are into masculine men and women. And others don't care about masculinity or femininity in partners at all, but different things define their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:30 PM
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Women are incredibly well aware of how little women orgasm. It's weird you're calling it a sexual dysfunction on their part though, it's usually a dysfunction in terms of their partner not touching their main sexual pleasure organ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:23 PM
5

You know, you could just not respond rather than call me stupid and offer nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:20 PM
3

You mean the skill of your partner, which is greater if they know you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:19 PM
3

I read it, but I said nothing about any skill nor do I know what skill you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:10 PM
6

Don't get married if you don't want to? This wasn't about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:37 PM
2

Only orgasms have even been brought up, and women can do that surprisingly often in these numbers considering their main sexual pleasure organs so often don't get touched in these encounters!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:35 PM
1

It's just not, like, an abnormal thing for people to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:34 PM
1

Why are you not even looking up quotas?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:51 PM
1

Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:33 PM
-2

What do you mean by sexual dysfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:13 PM
3

My comment, and the original post, say that orgasm frequency is increased in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:12 PM
2

So it's not about physical possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:11 PM
5

He did mention it, but the opposite of the way that would fit his numbers. He said men with performance anxiety don't have casual sex as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:10 PM
3

Women are well aware I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:08 PM
1

They actually often increase competency levels because race, sex, religion or something else isn't put ahead of that to favour less competent candidates who people are biased towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:07 PM
3

That has nothing to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:05 PM
1

Whatever, they're less likely than similar men. I'm sure you'd be a very competent PM despite not supporting or thinking you benefit from people who aren't exactly like you. Quotas by definition don't make the lists in favour of anyone, they make them representative. You can't pick which white man you specifically want to vote for, picking candidates is not a liberty you had to begin with so you're not losing any in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:58 PM
1

It is completely physically possible for women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:55 PM
1

Why do you keep replying to my comments ranting about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:54 PM
3

You're just saying words?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:54 PM
4

Because they're human I suppose. It's rather relevant and people often think that giving "warnings" is doing a favour. It might help for someone to get some money together or find a family member that they can live with of their partner leaves them. It's pretty normal to have general social welfare leaflets around hospitals, libraries, council buildings, etc even if the visitors aren't expected to be at particular risk, these are just giving advice which I assume you'd agree is not spreading any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:53 PM
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78%-83.7% apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:39 PM
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I removed the word "substantial" as I realised it's given as a range. I don't think we can be robust about this considering the figures aren't even from the same study, it's just funny that they included those numbers in something they're basing their whole point on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:38 PM
1

There are plenty of dad CEOs and politicians who don't seem to find this a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:36 PM
1

Not until they put themselves in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:35 PM
0

I hope you got something out of that rant, because I don't think anyone else did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:28 PM
1

He's the one trying to create infidelity in this scenario. And if he is involved in infidelity, it very much is his problem, as an accomplice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:26 PM
1

It's still infidelity if only one person involved is in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:19 PM
2

It's the fault of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:18 PM
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You are ignoring that by the same comparison men are also more likely to orgasm when married, which invalidates your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:17 PM
1

The women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:14 PM
1

I'm talking about competent women here. They have a worse chance at succeeding than men who are a bit less competent. Quotas still let you vote for who you want, voters never get to pick the candidate list themselves in any system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:04 PM
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Who says that they lied? You really don't think doctors and nurses can believe things that are based on little evidence or even false? Working as a professional I know of several myths or baseless practices in my field that are still believed and practiced by some colleagues (fyi "learning styles" are not real). I know of doctors and nurses that are anti vax!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:52 PM
1

Just because something happens doesn't mean it's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:46 PM
0

The work needed to establish a political party can take millions of people and decades of years. No one candidate is able to "put in the work" all by themselves and you wouldn't criticise a male candidate this way. Women have an unequal chance to run for political office as those chances are not given to them, they have a bad chance of getting taken on by a party and an awful chance of running independently. Women know they will not be successful, that's why they run for office less, as they see…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:44 PM
1

Do you believe it is wrong to lie, break promises, or expose people to unknown health risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:37 PM
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There are vanishingly few opportunities for new political parties to make enter party politics in any significant sense, especially beyond local council level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:36 PM
1

They wouldn't actually go there, too dangerous. Mind you, I bet most of them don't even own a passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:34 PM
1

Do you not believe that infidelity is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:32 PM
1

It's completely physically possible. A few months of sabbatical to recover from a couple of pregnancies won't stop you from being a CEO or politician. You're talking about childcare, which mothers don't need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:30 PM
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Being the main child carer is a huge woman penalty. It's not they like the have to be the default parent. Similar effects are seen even if a woman doesn't have children due to perceptions, for example women are less likely to be hired if they use Mrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:27 PM
1

The film is set in America, they could choose to work in McDonald's if they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:24 PM
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Women can, in fact, be sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:22 PM
1

I think the other facets you're looking for are party ideology, internalised sexism and race. Surely you're not arguing Trump is more competent than Harris (note I'm talking about competency, not agreeing with their ideology).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:21 PM
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It's not just about voting. Parties decide to put forward less female candidates and they're less likely to be in safe seats. The decisions about who ends up in parliament/government happen mainly at the party political level and it's an old boys' club with no incentive to change. I have voted in an election with over five candidates and all were male, another one where there was only one female candidate in a party that would never ever get a seat in that area, how could I make a move for equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:18 PM
1

365 days is a year. It doesn't show they had a sex spell, just they had sex at least once in the past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:08 PM
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Most women (or men, for that matter) I know aren't currently long-term single. That wasn't the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:26 AM
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Maybe your social circle is unusual or are you just assuming things about their sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:12 AM
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Most of them, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:16 AM
1

That's just in the past year. They may also have been in a relationship/sleeping with someone at any point in the year but celibate for most of it and wouldn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:15 AM
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"Maintaining your body count" is not an achievement. It doesn't actually provide any value to anyone beyond satisfying some personal preferences, and it takes literally zero effort to just not sleep with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:09 AM
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I don't think most people see it as gender-neutral at all. Most people would also say it is wrong and bad and reason to end a relationship, but your friends are supportive for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:07 AM
1

Why would I want to justify them? I don't even like them!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:05 AM
1

There's not really much of a risk any more. Idk about you but considering I have reliable contraception and access to abortion I don't really think about that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:05 AM
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Men tend to prefer to propose regardless of who did what first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:03 AM
1

When was that "discovered" and why do you seem under the impression this is a widely-known fact? And why do all your friends support cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:33 PM
1

Like special cleaning wipes? I guess you can use those but they're several times the price. Just wiping dry is not okay and I'm concerned you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:23 PM
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It is unsanitary to just wipe crumbs dry off the counter. Come on, kitchen spray is not expensive or hard to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:38 PM
1

That's...far from arbitrary. I wouldn't eat your cooking!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:24 PM
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If you only lightly wipe the crumbs off the countertop, it's not done. It's not safe to prepare food there and it will get dirtier again quicker. If you leave the dishes until later, they're obviously not done at all, and this creates more work for later as they'll be done quicker the earlier you do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:52 PM
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I don't feel like proposing should even be compared to pregnancy in terms of burden. As someone who's proposed, in a relatively high-effort way, it's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:48 PM
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Men and women aren't equal; they're not treated equally and are not given the same expectations which has repercussions for all aspects of their lives including what they're expected to do in order to "earn" a relationship. Many people may wish for sexism to be over but wanting it doesn't mean it's actually over. Both men and women glorify the chasing dynamic because we live in a sexist system where it is encouraged, and we can't destroy it simply by wishing otherwise. And, for the record, I act…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:47 PM
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I don't see it that way personally, but I guess I'm married with no plans to have children. Economic pessimism has certainly increased but in reality living standards have generally been going up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:41 PM
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The marriage rate is also falling. There are more married couples without children now I guess, but the rising numbers of people without children is driven by unmarried people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:59 PM
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By "fine" you mean "inefficiently, leaving more work to be done later, probably by someone else".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:45 PM
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After waiting. It's not really "waiting" in that it's not intentional, just doing it only when we're both ready and not rushing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:57 AM
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The examples you give of what "women" would want just reflect someone who's probably actually doing most of the chores and is doing a little bit every day rather than waiting for a big mess that's harder to clean up later. (The earlier you do your dishes the shorter the time it will take!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:02 AM
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No, I just see sex as something to do with someone you know well and are fully comfortable with. It's one of the most vulnerable things someone can do and comes with significant risks, so naturally you may want to actually be close with those you do it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:58 AM
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That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:51 AM
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English people never used guillotines, it'd be much more gruesome I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:28 PM
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It's normal? I don't want to sleep with anyone I just met, no way would that be a comfortable or pleasant experience for me. If we've been on one date and don't know each other outside of dating they're literally a stranger, I don't know their mum's name yet so it's not time to leap to seeing each other naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:21 PM
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I'm not talking about "house chores" kind of work. Those men would generally do similar work. The world over most men and women have usually done farming, they'd do that together. Then where I'm from both men and women would do spinning and weaving, women would do it at home a bit more often though. After that was a shift to modern work. Unless you're trying to argue WFH isn't work, or minimum wage isn't work, women have always worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:35 PM
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What's the difference you think I should be aware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:08 PM
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You're talking about a different topic entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:06 PM
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Most single people just live with housemates when not with parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:46 PM
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Women (except the super wealthy) have always worked. The difference through time has just been what kind of work and for what kind of/how much compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:45 PM
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Male and female are genders/sexes. If you're only into one (i.e. not bisexual) are you bigoted against the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:43 PM
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Good for you that you've never had that much to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:12 PM
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Oh yeah gambling is big, but I wouldn't call much of that investment or money management.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:11 PM
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And you know it's the same women doing these things how? Have you considered that different women are perhaps different? Occam's razor suggests that there's a group of kinky women that keep enjoying it and a separate group of non-kinky women who don't, instead of all women liking one type of sex then suddenly deciding they hate it for mysterious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:51 PM
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Normally investments are just your pension and low risk stuff. The men I know are often into government bonds for some reason, which are not great in general but not exactly risky. Although maybe UK and Ireland just have pretty risk averse cultures compared to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:46 PM
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They're aspirational!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:42 PM
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It also doesn't include any men who become dads at 50+ (probably not that many, but it'll be more common than women giving birth at that age).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:38 PM
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How many men do have children but don't "officially"? That barely ever happens to women for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:36 PM
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The idea behind it is that someone who is stressed and tired from doing too much housework isn't likely to feel horny or have energy for sex, so pulling your weight with chores will help. With that said my husband can seduce me with his cooking but I think he's just that good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:34 PM
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Is it sexist to not be bisexual then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:16 PM
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"Defer" is a weird word to say it's mainly their chore. Unless I can also say I defer to my husband for laundry decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:28 PM
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Investment is household management. Someone with less working hours will usually pick more of it up as they pick up other chores. It doesn't need a great deal of competency imo but there are probably other reasons why men may prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:16 PM
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It depends on how and when it's used. Sometimes women and children are helpful to be bundled together, for example when describing who a maternity hospital serves or who might be vulnerable to domestic abuse from men, and sometimes it's less useful. Women and children are not protected by default in emergency situations, this phrase came from the Titanic and was notable mainly because it was an outlier, where women and children made up disproportionately high numbers of deaths in any other shipw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:13 PM
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Breadwinners don't usually manage money (as said by others that's what your study is really measuring, not what they put in) as much as their partners as they're generally busier with making money. Making purchases and choosing financial products are chores they may not have as much time to do (I suppose men generally prefer those chores too). Checks out in my relationship, I earn and put in more but it means I have less time for managing how it's saved and spent than my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:06 PM
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24 and either two or three.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:02 PM
2

I don't think it's much less awkward if you've just texted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:27 PM
4

Whatever their personal belief is, obviously the people shaming women for sleeping around, whose reasoning they were attempting to explain, believe it is shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:06 AM
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If you think someone should be shamed for something, you see that thing as shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:49 AM
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I moved from Northern Ireland to England when I was 18 for university, stayed in that city until I was 23, then moved to a different city in England a few months back. My husband also left the town he's from, he is English but it's still pretty far away. I visit a lot though, I'm actually in NI at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:46 AM
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If you do it then old fashioned way and already know each other then it's fun. Otherwise I see how a first date could be unpleasant even if you're doing something that's otherwise fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:35 AM
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If something is shameful, putting in lots of effort to do it repeatedly because it's soooooooo difficult is even more shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:31 AM
1

Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:40 AM
1

I am Irish (as in, I come from Ireland). We may have different hair colours, but if your parents and grandparents are from here then skin colour doesn't vary that much and we are very much white. We don't even usually tan. Certainly we usually stick out in the Mediterranean, even with brown hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:34 PM
1

Are you sure you mean to say Irish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:11 PM
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I've never heard anyone gossiping in the women's bathroom. Plenty of other topics that they might not want to discuss around men, but not gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:04 PM
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Sounds good (well, maybe if I was a bit older) so long as he isn't too shy to get asked out. Why would I want him to have dated other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:37 AM
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I know so many straight couples where the man lives with his parents, in quite a few cases the woman moves in too! Maybe you're living somewhere houses are cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:34 AM
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Actually, a quite similar situation happened with a friend of mine come to think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:32 AM
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I don't think there are more women but where else is explicitly for meeting kinky women if you ask where to meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:52 PM
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It's not going to make either of them happy and the relationship will likely fail. Turns out it's not a good thing for your relationship to be a second job in exchange for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:36 PM
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I don't think that most people who practice kink really want to socialise doing it and go to munches. Especially not women for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:35 PM
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You think it's strange to not want to have casual sex with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:56 PM
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You've never felt a bit of attraction and just ignored it? Sounds like a tough way to live. And again not everyone is everyone's type. There's no disadvantage to having an opposite sex friend either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:44 PM
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Because you can't conceptualise having a friendship with someone you find attractive, or just not finding someone attractive even if you're into others of that gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:13 PM
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You're not talking about friendship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:08 PM
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They're not going to be having a romantic relationship with any of their friends. We're talking about friendship, not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:06 PM
2

But there would be the same issue - sharing emotional access.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:00 PM
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So you don't want your partner to have any friends or family? You know you can share things with multiple people, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:36 PM
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Why would it take anything away?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:15 PM
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Idk about you but I care a lot more about my partner's pleasure than the "propagation of the human race".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:46 PM
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Thirty years ago and adult man who lived with his parents would have higher dating difficulty related to that than now. Men's and women's dating preferences and priorities both change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:44 PM
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Why wouldn't you? Are you sure you want to be with someone who refuses to care for any other woman beyond being just an acquaintance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:41 PM
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Do straight people genuinely want to be the only non-related man/woman their partner is close with? How would you expect your partner to be normal with you if he doesn't allow himself to form relationships of any kind with ANY women who aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:10 PM
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Do you find it deceptive when your male friends go to parties and have casual sex? The issue is that you and your "friend" are not actually wanting to be friends with these women, otherwise this would be such a non-problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:08 PM
3

You're doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:05 PM
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How the hell is that supposed to be feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:35 PM
2

What do you mean by support monetarily?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:30 PM
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Rich???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:31 PM
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You know this is not what people with options do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:10 PM
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Let's not pretend they're just doing it because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:00 PM
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To each their own I guess. What's the relevance anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:38 AM
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TIL nothing bad can ever happen to you after age forty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:37 AM
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Come on, you don't seriously believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:32 AM
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Self-explanatory. You use AI, there are no other people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:29 AM
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Real women. At least with the AI version he is only hurting himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:13 AM
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Is that not a venue? I got married in a city hall registry office and it was genuinely nicer than other venues we'd looked at which had extra fees. I'm always sharing my wedding pictures with the world, and he's 5'4".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:12 AM
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That's not toxic masculinity. You just found it in some random quiz.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:52 AM
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Irish people. It's just me and I've only recently returned. Even the Brits have vanished!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:52 AM
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It's actually a thing in Ireland. You call any woman she and we say "who's she, the cat's mother?" In England, we also use it for teachers. You basically use Miss or Sir as a pronoun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:46 AM
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Oh right. Toxic masculinity causes direct harm to individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:14 AM
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They're not hurting anyone unless you try to argue don't butterfly effect thing that could apply to anything. Obviously the cause of toxic masculinity isn't that some women having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:28 PM
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I didn't say those things were the same (although many prostitutes are forced to do it). The point was about victim blaming. Nobody with actual freedom and equal opportunities is choosing prostitution and prostitutes aren't free to set prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:44 PM
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Or to do them more. And even if I find a behaviour undesirable, if it's not hurting anyone, who am I to decide what choice they should make?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:33 PM
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I don't do that, my private business stays private. People have shared with me and they seem to think it's like anything else, they played some football yesterday then later they had a nice hookup. If I'm planning on speaking to them again, saying politely I'm not comfortable talking about that works fine, I suggest you do the same if it bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:03 PM
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Even if I think someone is doing something wrong, shaming them only serves to feel good for me, it doesn't achieve any actual good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:01 PM
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you can literally just choose to be nice (or just do/say nothing) and that would be the right thing to do. Shaming and insulting isn't helping anyone even if you think casual sex is bad, that won't make your choice to throw insults around any less bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:31 PM
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I can't regulate being nice and don't want to. But obviously being nice is the right thing to do. Yes, you can insult people for no reason, you're free to do so, but it is wrong and will attract criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:01 PM
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Nobody deserves to be just insulted for no good reason. I know everyone isn't always nice - but they still should be. Shaming people is still wrong and hurtful and there are people who choose to do things that are wrong and hurtful. I don't know why you're making it personal - this topic doesn't apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:41 PM
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Not for doing something that doesn't even hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:16 PM
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In many countries, slavery is illegal, yet slaves aren't punished, just slave owners. Do these countries hate rich people? (Yes, this is exactly how silly your argument sounds.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:15 PM
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I don't think anyone should do 50/50 by default unless they earn the same because it's not fair. A lower earning partner could end up with little to nothing for themselves and a loving partner wouldn't let them do that. A couple that acts as a team rather than adversaries will support each other and give proportionally to what they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:22 AM
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It's not a red flag to me. Maybe it would be if he was waiting for marriage or something, but if the opportunity just didn't come up or he didn't want to then I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:15 AM
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Single parent families usually aren't a result of sleeping around but relationship failure. Contraception is generally used for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:06 AM
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It's wrong to shame and bully people even if you don't like them. They're not even hurting anyone and something being "easy" certainly doesn't mean you should be nasty to people for doing it. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:03 AM
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Could you at least give a case where this would happen? I'm giving my genuine expectation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:09 PM
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When is Thanksgiving actually supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 PM
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If you're not interested in something then more people asking will make you more annoyed, not more interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:06 PM
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I don't expect to ever be in such a situation that it would be necessary. So no, I don't expect that, because if he did then he'd be doing something needless and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:04 PM
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If you change prostitution so it doesn't hurt women, it becomes nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:29 PM
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I can't think of a situation where that would ever realistically happen as a sum zero decision, even on the Titanic there were lifeboats going half empty. I expect in any dangerous situation that we would help each other as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:25 PM
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You don't realise that prostitution involves hurting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:23 PM
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They investigate and work out if there's an actual problem. Then they most likely resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:36 PM
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I don't understand the reason why someone would want to put a face on it, and it likely indicates porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:05 PM
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I do need to be aware but I have DCD/dyspraxia and that is a symptom. Everyone else has told me it's not like that for them unless they haven't used that part in that way for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:03 PM
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Well you don't do it outside the bedroom generally. And it's normal to pretend/exaggerate for a bit of fun outside a sexual context too. It's also normal to do things for fun in the bedroom that might look silly in another context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:01 PM
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I think it's UK law (or just NI law) as at my city hall (registry office) wedding the (secular) registrar said it. I think the point of it is to say if one of them is already married or the other one's siblings or forced into it or something, it's also just traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:58 PM
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It's impossible to write an exhaustive list of things that are creepy and what's creepy will depend on context. You're essentially asking "how do I socialise in an appropriate way" and it would take writing a whole book to scratch the surface of that, people generally learn this in childhood taking years to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:54 PM
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No, I wouldn't, but not because it's cheating. I'm fine with his normal sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:40 AM
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No. You can't cheat with an object. I think you'd be surprised by the range of dildo looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:35 AM
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Then what's the point of giving it a face? My toys don't even look like dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:27 AM
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I don't what to anthropomorphise a sex toy. It's a tool not a substitute for a person. The idea of giving it a face is incredibly weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:57 AM
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That doesn't stop them. I've only encountered creepy men as an adult when out with my husband. They saw it as a challenge or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:53 AM
1

The solution to men feeling lonely is not women getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:50 AM
2

Sounds like your attention span is fried.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:48 AM
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Actually, having authority is one of the aspects of the job I don't like. I like maths, I like helping people, I like teenagers, I like job security and I like long holidays.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:33 AM
1

Thanks for your response. This tells me all I need to know about how well-thought-out your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:29 AM
1

Then don't tie it to your worth. Sex toys are an addition to other ways of getting off, they aren't usually a replacement (unless your partner can't be bothered to ever do it themselves). Obviously they're very different to porn so it's silly to compare. I'd just take the vibrator, my vibrator having a face would be creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:28 AM
4

Have you considered that maybe they are telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:07 PM
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To make things more interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:06 PM
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I mean, your penis doesn't stay hard after you've finished and isn't available 24/7. It also might not have other fun features that other toys have like having a vibrator attached. And if you're using just your penis and expecting it to be "good enough" your partner will almost certainly need to stimulate herself to get off, most women don't orgasm that way. (My husband owns multiple strokers and I think they do a great job.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:48 PM
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You know that on a dating app the same profile will be shown to both men and women if you select both as your preference, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:20 PM
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I assume she's talking about her preference in women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:14 PM
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If you care about your partner being close in height to you, you care about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:13 PM
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Hating at least half the people of a culture counts as hating it in my book. I hate to break it to you but their culture is yours, you are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:02 PM
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Humans don't need to eat three times a day. I guess we do need less sleep than most animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:08 AM
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You actually can move whenever you want, you don't need to wait for a handsome prince to take you. My husband is from a different country and culture, I know it doesn't mean you can't be in love but why actively seek out barriers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:58 AM
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No, they're just working to get food etc all the time. Harder than for humans, who are efficient enough to actually get a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:57 AM
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Why do you hate people from your own culture so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:54 AM
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"Western" countries aren't all the same. I live a swimmable distance to France and it's still culturally very different. Who says they think an American life is better? Even if they happen to want to live there (they could've just moved already if they wanted to), there will still be difficulties that someone from the country wouldn't experience. But in all likelihood if they move they'll move for you and that will build resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:01 AM
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Why would you purposely make life difficult for yourself by specifically seeking out a relationship with cultural differences, a likely language barrier, and families in different countries (and you're assuming someone will just up and move countries for your relationship)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:33 AM
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How often are you getting told this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:29 AM
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They generally are. Statistically speaking people don't have enough sexual partners to account for casual sex between relationships, casual sex is going down and the amount of young men and women who have never had sex is going up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:27 AM
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Maybe you are against hookup culture but "men" aren't. Lots of men love and support it, otherwise it wouldn't exist among straight people as no men would be participating in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:25 AM
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If you're repeatedly attracting cheaters, it's starting to say something about you as well as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:23 AM
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Where did you get your ideas about how "most" people have sex and relationships and why do I have a feeling it's porn or other fictional media?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:22 AM
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When you say you fear getting hurt by something do you always mean that thing could kill you? That's just silly. There's a clue in the name of casual sex, a relationship is not the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:17 AM
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You're personally involved so probably see your actions and those of people you were into that just anyone would do and that don't indicate anything in particular, which is only natural but it does obscure trends that could be seen from the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:50 PM
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I'm not trying to label them, I'm just saying certain types of holidays will attract certain types of people, as that one did. A volunteer programme is often seen as just one big unserious party, it's also more likely to attract people who aren't very stable and don't like to commit to things (no proper paid job) and who aren't in happy committed relationships (away from partner for months on end).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:42 PM
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I thought you were going to say something worse... Men and women cheat at their homes, this is common, and probably even more common among the kind of people who choose to go on party holidays. You can't exactly be calling it bad when you also participated in it and didn't own up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:20 PM
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Nobody says death, like ever. People who have casual sex obviously aren't usually looking to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:16 PM
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I don't think many people would think they were risking death here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:09 PM
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What did you see women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:53 PM
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Any animal that doesn't do anything productive to help them and/or others survive isn't having sex and in many cases will just be left by other animals to go die or whatever. Human men don't need to be specially coddled, unsurprisingly most people don't want to date someone without any job and if you don't have one there's no point being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:52 PM
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That's kind of a risk you have to take in order to go home with anyone. But if you want to leave someone, you can do it by ghosting with less risk involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:16 PM
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They were having sex with you, making you happy, doing what you wanted. Rejecting you would be a whole lot riskier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:11 PM
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How would I know if a man was having sex in order to categorise them like that? It wouldn't enter my mind to do that and wouldn't even be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:57 PM
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Well, of course these women weren't afraid of you being violent when they were doing what you wanted. Adverse reactions generally only happen when they stop doing what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:56 PM
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The lady I just replaced at work dropped out to be a SAHM, a private school teacher who must've been earning at least £50k.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:02 AM
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Nobody wants to change their political views just to have sex. They either don't care that much about their partner's views and want their partner to also be chill, or want to find a partner with similar views rather than pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:33 AM
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Sounds like you don't understand the differences too well. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:03 PM
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I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:56 PM
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Emasculating isn't a synonym for embarrassing. And I don't know why being dominant would mean understanding men any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:56 PM
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That's cuckolding, not emasculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:41 PM
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The problem with having an emasculation-humiliatuon kink is that being compared to a woman is seen as humiliating. Unsurprisingly, women may not agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:25 PM
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You really don't seem to understand how dominance kinks work. And I'm a giver and a taker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:20 PM
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They do have power over male characters, they have greater power in the stories than most/all other characters male or female. In polite society what you do in the bedroom stays there and shouldn't be evident from your behaviour. Of course, men forget this rule a bit more often. There are women who do enjoy tying up their husbands, no might or afterthought about it, but of course you don't say that in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:17 PM
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Do you seriously not get how a woman could be the more active partner in that arrangement? It takes very little imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:47 PM
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Correct, I'm monogamous so I just fuck the one penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:33 PM
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Off the top of my head, Captain Marvel, Ballerina, A Court of Thorns and Roses, basically any film from the YA dystopia craze. Women know how hurtful objectification is firsthand so they're more likely to see it as gross and less likely to do it even if they're not generally respectful people, and I was just saying being a dom doesn't mean being objectifying and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:29 PM
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You really said that to the wrong person. I'm exclusively dominant, have been as long as I've been aware of my sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:16 PM
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Not without going deaf. Ah well, we're off to Ireland tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:14 PM
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The relevant risk for both is creating a pregnancy. The other differences aren't relevant to the current discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:14 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:02 PM
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I have an interrail pass that I'm using in the summer holidays so somewhere European, I'm going to either mainly Scandinavia or the Baltics I think. And I should be going to Istanbul with my parents and husband at Halloween.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:01 PM
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It's not a domination kink for your partner to be younger, weaker or poorer. Female power fantasies are promoted in media (men tear them to pieces though). Respectful doms agree that objectification isn't cool :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:59 PM
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My in laws. It's starting to hurt :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 PM
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I want to join a D&D group, learn fair isle knitting, visit at least two new countries and finish my ECT programme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:55 PM
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Fellas, is it gay for a man to want to have sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:51 PM
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There isn't any aspect of a domination kink that would be acceptable to express in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:49 PM
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It's his idea and it works for him, he's not worrying over being masculine enough like many other men are. He'd probably agree it's a bit silly, but so is masculinity in general, and he doesn't mind a bit of silly!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:54 PM
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A man could certainly embody a feminine role and be a dom or any other role, emasculation doesn't require domination even if it normally involves it. Humiliation is a bit trickier but someone could find being in a dominant position humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:48 PM
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Because we'd be at least looked at weirdly if not arrested? Sorry I'm not tying anyone up in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:46 PM
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As in emasculation is his kink? Not one I share but we could probably work something out if it isn't a non-negotiable for him. I won't do humiliation at all so even if he was into it he'd need to be fine without it. As in his kink is something that people generally find emasculating? Most of my kinks probably fit into that category, so that'd be a good sign. My husband's take on the whole thing is "I'm a man so whatever I do is masculine", and I don't care about labelling things as masculine or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:43 PM
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Hardly any men have skincare routines beyond washing their face. Face shape, body type, facial hair and fashion sense tend to have a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:39 PM
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It's not some mystery: those men tend to look and/or act young for their age, and women who are closer to the age they think they are will be more likely to try to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:16 PM
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Unfortunately not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:13 AM
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Well, that's just life when you're not a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:02 AM
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Good thing I didn't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:26 AM
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When it's you that it's validating you're bound to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:48 PM
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AI will nearly always validate you no matter what you say. It's built to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:47 PM
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Good for you but I'm not American. Even just for health reasons, it's late twenties to early thirties. Socioeconomic factors and resources included, mid thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:29 PM
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Idk what you're counting as "official" but that's not the case for the NHS in 2025. Late twenties or early thirties would be optimal all things considered (well, to truly maximise health of all involved then never would be optimal).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:52 PM
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Pregnancy is actually least dangerous in late twenties and early thirties, which is probably more important than being able to conceive a tiny bit more quickly. A geriatric pregnancy is forties and up, and it's classified as such because of danger to the pregnant woman, not difficulty in becoming pregnant (not that it is difficult for under forties), which obviously doesn't matter when you're already pregnant. Teen pregnancy is dangerous now never mind thousands of years ago when the risk of dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:26 PM
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This analogy doesn't work as you're both participating in sex and taking on the risks here. Again, men do choose to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:39 PM
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Responsibility for something doesn't imply the right to do anything to it. Say I consensually got a tattoo. Both I and my tattooist would be responsible for the tattoo. But only I would be able to decide if I wanted to remove it, my tattooist couldn't legally/morally do it forcibly and similarly if I wanted to remove it they couldn't force me to keep it. Of course men are responsible for creating pregnancies (outside of rape cases), but they don't have the right to decide what happens to them wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:09 PM
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It's a gradual change until you hit at least your forties, it isn't hard at 38 unless you have the kind of circumstances that would make it hard at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:04 PM
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"My body, my choice" doesn't mean that you're solely responsible for the pregnancy, just that while it's in your body you're the only one who can decide what can be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:56 PM
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It's not a big difference, and the difference between 38 and 39 (assuming they're the exact same age) is even smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:54 PM
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Replace "woman" with "human" and add physical health issues. Lots of conditions can mean you can't move that much or otherwise gain weight easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:34 PM
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Are you confusing 38 with 48? It's not even hard to have biological children at 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:31 PM
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And that means "my body, my choice" entails women take the lion's share of responsibility for sex and reproduction because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:22 PM
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Depends on what you count as medical intervention. But what's the relevance?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:00 PM
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It would be to me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:49 AM
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They'd get more of my attention :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:33 AM
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In what cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:50 AM
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It's not cute to not be able to lift anything in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:01 AM
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I can't express my own personal taste now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:59 AM
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I assumed there was a coherent thought process connecting these statements that you just weren't explaining, but now I'm not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:58 AM
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Because nobody wants to be strong and healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:48 PM
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They would look great if they had normal bodies :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:47 PM
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There aren't that many celebrities with normal bodies that wear revealing outfits or go topless publicly, so if you're asked to give an example of a non-muscular celebrity, you might have to pick one who's the least muscular but still has muscles. Obviously you could talk about non-celebrities, but the same names aren't going to come up in conversation as we all personally know different people, and of course talking about people you personally know is useless for online discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:45 PM
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I don't think you're getting the whole "there is no scientific proof of moral concepts" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:50 PM
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You're not supposed to answer rhetorical questions, that's kind of the point. I genuinely cannot follow your argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:48 PM
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There is no evidence or scientific reasoning for moral concepts like fault or blame. This discussion was never a scientific one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:47 PM
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I know this makes sense in your head and all but you're making disconnected statements here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:45 PM
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In the case of fault it can't be proven as it's subjective, but good common sense will generally lead people to believe that a single-parent household is the fault of the person who created it by, well, not being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:44 PM
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You made the positive claim, so the burden of proof is on you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:35 PM
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Or maybe I could have a reason for thinking something that isn't to be found in the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:35 PM
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I didn't read it and didn't make a claim based on it. And you do keep misquoting what I actually did say. Again, I made a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:38 PM
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Read to the end of the sentence and you'll see that this is part of a comparative clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:16 PM
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My argument was pointing out you were relying on an incorrect assumption. Your response was to send an emoji.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:15 PM
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What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:05 PM
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One doesn't entail the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:04 PM
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Men aren't Sims that only have children when someone else chooses Try For Baby. They can choose to have children or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:08 PM
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Considering that most people in America are raised in two-parent households, most criminals in America coming from single-parent households is significant. Certainly it's not the fault of the parent who raised them so much as the parent who didn't raise them and the social and economic systems that likely failed them, and it's primarily their own fault in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:06 PM
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That's actually a great way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:31 AM
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Don't you find that as you get to know people and find out they're quite nice actually they start to look better to you? Even if you're not attracted to them this happens. Even if you think they look nice already, this can go from just an acknowledgement of their looks to those looks having another meaning. If you don't notice their looks at all, you can start to notice things in a positive light. Even "flaws" can start to become cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:44 PM
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Technically they're all clitoral orgasms, but they feel the same to me as external clitoris ones. Either one when caused by a partner is just as bonding and connecting. I think men generally experience a bigger difference between orgasm types.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:53 PM
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Hollywood makes lots of good films! Popular things are popular for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:20 PM
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Now that could make a real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:19 PM
1

American pizza is popular globally though, more than Italian pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:54 AM
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If we're to get along, he's going to listen when I tell him not to bring this up with me again unless he's come to his senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:10 AM
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The algorithm punishes you if you just swipe on everyone. It makes it look like you're not even looking and you're in it for the ego boost of being picked if you're not a bot - which I think is what most people who swipe on everyone are doing, to be honest. If you want a partner you need to pick someone you can at least tolerate, and even from the limited information available on a dating app profile you can see that's not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:04 AM
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Masturbation usually helps to make you less stressed, which would be helpful when trying to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:01 AM
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Not really. Americans like pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:58 AM
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You will need to go out to where women are to meet them, but you're not going to meet women who want to date you every time you go out and desperation rarely leads anyone down a good path. So make sure you enjoy whatever you go out doing besides meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:54 PM
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Wanting someone with the same music taste is understandable, especially if you listen to music a lot and don't want to annoy the other person. Unfortunately I'm with a man who's into that kind of shit music but I'm a rock and metal fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:24 AM
1

Lanky women often carry huge backpacks. I am lanky women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:18 AM
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I don't know anyone who's had therapy that wasn't either for grief or a mental disorder. It doesn't seem to have done them any harm. I think Americans like it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:15 AM
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We call travelling thirty minutes in a car a day trip or a commute. I couldn't even leave the county in thirty minutes (unless the sea border counts).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:21 PM
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A lot of women do that. A lot of women also travel close to home or for day/weekend trips. It'd maybe cost thousands of pounds to do it for months on end but not for a normal holiday unless it was another continent. Most people who say they like travel aren't going on luxury holidays all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:14 PM
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Thank you for sharing your kink, I would not like to hear further.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:03 PM
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You know travel can be cheap, right? Even if you like expensive travel, saying you prioritise spending money on it says a lot about you. It's okay if you don't like travelling, just don't go out with someone who does!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:00 PM
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The phrase generally brings to mind STI tests, condoms and other fun stuff I've had to teach about in PSHE. If you mean a healthy sex life, I guess it depends on the context of what your sex life is like and your relationship if you have one, but in general having a healthy sex life is making sure each person can handle their sex drive appropriately (individually or with a partner), isn't having sex they don't want/enjoy and is communicating well and having a good understanding with sex partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:58 PM
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Some appeared sceptical because I hadn't slept with any. That was a good thing. They outed themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:40 PM
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Speaking about the time I was successful. It was a warm approach. We were close friends who had known each other for several months, seeing each other almost every day in that time (until about a month before I asked him out when we were in different countries during covid, when we would message multiple times a day). Neither of us actually knew we were into the other until I asked him out, we told each other we liked this other woman (we realised later this was actually the same woman). I got d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:28 PM
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Basically, men who look and act young for their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:16 PM
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Could you describe how you feel personally about the idea of you dating a man much older than you? I bet your natural response would be similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:15 PM
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Your comment was literally just "well it's not a crime in my country". I'd understand the defensiveness if it was an assumption you had to make to make another point, but it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:13 PM
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There is a difference in that stealthing changes the sex act (something enters you that you didn't consent to) while not using another contraceptive only affects what happens after. Stealthing also exposes you to STI risks you didn't consent to. Stealthing would still be a problem in cases of sex between two men, or straight sex where at least one is sterilised. Condoms can't simply be forgotten without the person taking them knowing like a birth control pill. I'm not saying what should be done …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:49 AM
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Something not being a crime in one country doesn't make it not a crime. There aren't many things that are illegal in every country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:40 AM
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The shape and size of your body, regardless of whether it gets fatter or thinner. You can't change your height, fat distribution, bone structure, etc without surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:05 PM
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The shape and size of a body? I know that both care, that was kind of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:02 PM
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No. Men also care about body type and face shape, and frequently cite these as reasons for thinking a particular woman is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:18 PM
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Why would those men know the average man's experience any better? Are they statisticians working in this very specific field? Do they have a mental connection to every man on the planet? Who are you to say which experience or observation is the "true" one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:15 PM
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This relies heavily on the assumption that prostitution is identical to normal consensual sex, which is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:00 AM
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So long as you're not saying anything inappropriate (a lot of men seem to struggle with this) or the situation is obviously wildly inappropriate (say you're her boss or you're at a funeral or something), at worst it will be awkward or embarrassing. Many women just don't want to be hit on anywhere or have had a bad experience with men in a particular place, so will advise against. "Hitting on" a stranger doesn't tend to work out so well for either party as other methods of finding a date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:45 PM
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Maybe that would be exhausting, but even more exhausting is losing all your friends when you break up and having to build another social circle completely from scratch, which is why this advice exists. Your friends do have social circles by the way, you don't need loads and loads of friends to have one. Many women don't have any friends - but of course, you're not friends with them so might not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:41 PM
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In general there's a trend that people are avoiding commitment more, preferring short-term satisfaction over pursuing long-term goals, and taking fewer risks. Men see marriage as a bigger risk than before media scaremongering over the effects of divorce has increased and after the peak in divorce many have friends or family who went through divorce, which has a bigger emotional impact than the fact divorce rates are going down. They also see marriage as a bigger opportunity cost as media and tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:20 PM
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In general, if you're talking about how attractive you are you should expect criticism as you're just inviting people to mock you. There are many ways you can show confidence or lack thereof while avoiding this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:19 PM
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Vaginas "tent" when aroused, meaning they mould themselves to whatever's in them. With a penis in a normal size range she should feel full. And again, the right spot is two inches in. So I don't think that's quite the whole picture. A sexual thing some women enjoy would be called a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:04 AM
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It seems a bit weird to me to use a strap on if you already have a penis, but it sounds like she has a kink for it or something. The g spot is only two inches in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:55 PM
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The main reasons are it's degrading and it's dangerous. Sex and naked bodies can be a wonderful thing, in the right context, but someone paying me to have control over that takes all the wonder and beauty out of it. The only reason anyone ever gets paid for anything sexual is because they wouldn't do it otherwise. This is also the reason why men don't do it even though men with accounts make more. Not to even get into the misogyny of it all. Most people with any kind of online presence in the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:49 PM
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Unlikely to return, still radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:49 PM
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JAMIARY Q&A one night only (drunk)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:06 PM
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Oxford United/Northern Ireland
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:03 PM
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Because I reached 20 and teaching is hard (in England)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:02 PM
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Then that'd sidestep patriarchy Obviously irrelevant. Men and women are treated like same now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:59 PM
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I can't think of anything more fundamental than the oppression of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:53 PM
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Men don't cater to women. They consider that beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:43 PM
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Patriarchy is the root of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:41 PM
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Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:34 PM
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January is BACK (and drunk) for one night omly. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:29 PM
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If you think someone is going to divorce you for a "stupid reason" then don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:03 AM
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I don't get into it either way. I'm not going to get into a fight with my male or female friends over their relationship and I don't tend to know about their relationship issues as I don't tend to ask, I also don't know most of their partners very well. If someone vents to me I just let them vent. Nobody has to my knowledge shown themselves to be toxic but I'm not very involved so I don't know. If I told them off especially over things they might not have done it would probably just start an arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:30 AM
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If you take a paternity test, you are trusting the test to reliably tell you the truth. (They fail sometimes.) If you don't, you're trusting your partner to reliably tell you the truth. (They fail sometimes.) There's always trust involved somewhere. If you're having a child with someone, it says a lot about you if you don't think they can be trusted to tell you the truth. Even if the test comes back negative, you'll still be skeptical right, because it isn't proof they didn't cheat or aren't che…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:06 AM
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Have you not seen the statistics that have been making the rounds? The least attractive hobby in men is "manosphere" and gaming isn't even in the bottom fifteen. I don't get upset at gaming, it's my husband's main hobby and we often play together. The problem is that many people get addicted and will game for hours on end to the point it's harming their life (no it isn't healthy to game for so long you can never get to bed on time).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:42 AM
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We can each choose to be nice or at least not awful. Otherwise you end up the kind of "successful" that just involves feeling empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:32 AM
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It certainly helps with stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:30 AM
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I don't get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:07 PM
1

So when and who? Looking it up gives nonsense results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:07 PM
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When are they if not at the end of the year/term? In the beginning or middle when you don't even know most of the content?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:07 PM
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You don't need to be religious to know lying is wrong. Every normal person older than three with a conscience knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:50 PM
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Not a statistic and about a different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:49 PM
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When were they posted? Who posted them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:49 PM
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It's a metaethical view that says that ethics are things that we approve or disapprove of. You would still need a normative view that describes what you approve or disapprove of. It doesn't negate any normative views on right and wrong. Basically everyone accepts that moral right and wrong exists, even if purely in terms of approving and disapproving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:36 PM
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Oh really, where are these statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:26 PM
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So now you're saying neither men nor women watch that porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:25 PM
1

That doesn't mean that moral statements are meaningless, it means they're expressions that aren't truth-apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:24 PM
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People have children and childcare is affordable and easily available so nobody has to stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:16 PM
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Men love watching this kind of porn. Maybe not you but other men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:14 PM
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What ethical view do you hold where lying isn't wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:08 PM
0

You haven't read any romance novels have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:07 PM
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And that is wrong too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:30 PM
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Okay so it's eighteen in your country. Most men who are eighteen have had sex. One year difference but what you said is clearly very wrong. I didn't say any of those things, maybe care about what I actually said rather than assigning me an "ilk" and saying I have random opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:29 PM
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No I have not watched porn and I never will. Nobody needs to but some people (mainly men/boys) fall for marketing and think they do. We know it impacts everyone even if they don't feel it does. I'd recommend nobody to "control" their partner into stopping porn when they don't want to. Just leave. That's what a boundary is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:13 PM
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No. I highly recommend it. We know it's way less harmful. Indeed, masturbation has health benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:05 PM
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Do you think this is a normal male experience and specific to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:04 PM
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That doesn't mean most have never been in a relationship before reaching the end of that age group. What it means is that mostly men on the younger end are mostly experiencing gaps. Most are not virgins, most boys who are seventeen aren't virgins. What an absolute failure of trying to understand statistics. How have I beaten you when you were down or blamed you for anything exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:00 PM
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Most books are pretty complimentary about men, they portray men as more sympathetic than most media aimed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:58 PM
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I don't believe the world is just. Like others who aren't psychopaths or developmentally impaired I do believe that lying is wrong, especially for entirely selfish reasons such as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:56 PM
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It's weird to say it's wrong to lie...did your parents not teach you that lying is bad when you were three years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:55 PM
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Then they have treated someone else horribly just for their own want. People who aren't psychopaths know that's wrong and they should feel bad about it. It shouldn't be recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:49 PM
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I'm concerned with what this person considers normal because they claim it's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:47 PM
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That's neither normal nor some horrendous fate. Idk who you think "women like me" are or what "suffering" we enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:45 PM
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It's not lying to not act the exact same from birth to death. People change and grow, that's no lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:44 PM
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It's trolling to directly respond to a claim in a comment? What isn't trolling at that rate, apart from accusing people of trolling apparently?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:43 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:41 PM
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What's so horrible about being normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:13 AM
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You can have a personality that will get you friends but isn't usually as desirable in relationships - for example, a relentless jokester type. People are also generally more comfortable approaching others for friendship than sex or romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:51 AM
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Yes. It's less bad because at least there aren't actors harmed but it still spreads terrible ideas about sex and is psychologically harmful. Porn doesn't just harm actors but also watchers and those watchers interact with. If you can generate porn on demand I don't see anything stopping a large amount from being extremely violent or paedophilic as has been a problem with drawn porn already. People could also make porn of people they know which could be used to harrass them or at the very least c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:21 AM
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So again you're using a strange definition of success that appears to include just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:15 AM
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You don't need to. Even if no lying guaranteed no sex, you could just not have sex, you wouldn't be forced. People who lie for this reason just want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:14 AM
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Even if you think that about jobs, it doesn't apply to people who often require little to no sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:12 AM
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That's not telling a lie, that's just actually developing confident behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
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It's not guilt because it's not bad or wrong and people could be uncomfortable with revealing their sexual history no matter what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:09 AM
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You didn't read my exchange with that other person I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:07 AM
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Okay and just because something happens every day doesn't make it okay. It's at the very least coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:56 PM
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It isn't. If you don't want to say the moral thing to do is say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:51 PM
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Can you not read a simple sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:44 PM
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It's not hypocrisy to judge everyone including me for something!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:42 PM
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Scroll back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:56 PM
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Scroll back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:56 PM
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Literally nobody has to lie to have sex because nobody needs to have sex. They can just not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:54 PM
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So you can't explain why it wouldn't be analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:53 PM
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Apart from the person you lied to. You might think it's silly but it can matter to some people and others might not care but certainly care that you lied to them just to have sex. At the end you'll be lying about how you treated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:52 PM
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No it isn't worth mistreating people for selfish gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:50 PM
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He didn't say honesty was important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:48 PM
1

So is honesty important?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:48 PM
1

Well it's not physical, but it can be taken. Why would that matter anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:15 PM
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It wasn't. I didn't talk about myself at all until you started making personal accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:15 PM
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Lying directly harms people. That's why it's wrong. If you want to not disclose in a way that isn't wrong, just don't say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:14 PM
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Most men think lying is wrong and would like to have sex with people who actually want to have sex with them with no lying required. Lying and mistreating people feels wrong to anyone with a conscience, I'm not sure why you'd feel so good about yourself for having sex if you only had it because you lied. Treating people badly like it's nothing is destructive, just not having sex yet not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:13 PM
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You were the one who made it personal...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:11 PM
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That was sarcasm. I'm done with this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:53 PM
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Something of value...like the truth? Why would that make it different anyway? Is it not still wrong to do a bad thing even if you gain from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:51 PM
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It's self destructive to lie. Lying is wrong. Lying is repellent. Not having had sex yet isn't wrong or bad and that's shame that can be worked on. If you think you've only had sex due to lying and mistreating someone else you will only be more ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:51 PM
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Fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:48 PM
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Nobody has to. I didn't lie and got no men. World kept spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:46 PM
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But I judge myself for lying. I've never even told that kind of lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:46 PM
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I'm using it to mean the same thing because obviously not being a virgin is the same as having sex one time. I'm not sure why you seem think it's any better to lie for sex if you've never had it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 PM
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I didn't tell lies to try to get men. That would be wrong. I don't think most men lie to try to get women either, because it is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:42 PM
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Of course I have. That was wrong and I shouldn't have done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 PM
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If you mean he should've agreed with you, well, he didn't. That wasn't the point he made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 PM
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So you are saying men care more about having sex than being a good person and treating people decently. They don't even feel as ashamed about it apparently. Wow. That's horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:38 PM
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The person I just replied to literally in his comment said honesty wasn't important. You are saying something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:37 PM
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So really when you said they meant you were saying what women in general meant when they somehow said...something. Makes sense okay I must just be dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:35 PM
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That doesn't actually apply to sex or jobs. Many jobs will take someone without experience and many people don't mind if you've had sex before or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:34 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:33 PM
1

Some women lie so you should lie to different women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:33 PM
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Don't they feel ashamed of lying? Are you so misandrist you don't think men value, you know, being a good person over having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:32 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:08 PM
1

That's a lot more than their ancestors. Supports a lot more growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:07 PM
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Because women in general weren't making a comment for you to explain what it meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:06 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:06 PM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:05 PM
1

We're taller because we have more access to good food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:57 PM
1

That's not a difference, men and women can both pick the length.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:48 PM
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You said "they mean". I assume I was the "they", not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:46 PM
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And the ideal of perfection is a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:45 PM
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Men have nicer legs and bums I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:20 PM
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If lying gets you what you want then lying isn't wrong? By that logic should we steal too, as it gets us the money we want? Edit: well that struck a nerve. I guess we all don't have a conscience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:09 PM
1

If the most successful you can be is being one year old I think your definition of success is meaningless. Generally it involves doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:07 PM
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Good for those people. I take issue when you're speaking for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:06 PM
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People who have sex with each other are about to care about each other, at the very least about their basic boundaries and peace of mind. What kind of caring wife would be comfortable with her husband "relenting" into having sex? How could she enjoy the intimacy of having partnered sex with someone who doesn't want to be there? How is it too high a standard to suggest that people who have sex give a single fuck about each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:03 PM
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Okay cool now tell me why honesty isn't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:59 PM
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Lying is wrong. Are you going to tell the truth thereafter that you think you only had sex with your first sexual partner because you lied to them? Do you really want to have sex that you believe hinges on a lie? What's even the point of having sex with someone if you're not even comfortable being honest with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:58 PM
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I don't think you get how skill checks work. It's a dice roll with modifiers. It's not your fault for rolling badly. There's an element of luck but if you're more or less suited to that skill/person it can be more or less likely. Ironically that's actually quite a lot like dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:45 PM
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You said it was what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:41 PM
1

A blank slate is the opposite of successful, instead you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:41 PM
0

So they know the consequences of having children when you're not financially ready and make a better-informed choice. They can also just have different financial priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:41 AM
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They usually find it out by talking to family and friends who have been pregnant. Oddly enough they don't say it was an enjoyable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:40 AM
1

It's not so much about the weight as everything else that can go wrong and basically everyone gets at least one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:39 AM
-1

And social self-improvement is often your best bet at improving these chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 AM
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You're not going to improve very much by staying at home. One of the most effective things you can do to improve yourself as a dating prospect as well as your life and mental health in general is to go outside and socialise more. Which would also lead to better chances of meeting someone organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:17 AM
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I would not sleep with anyone after only "one conversation at a party".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 AM
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I don't feel obligated to pay back as a man has never paid for me on a date. It doesn't have to be a "sexual favour", many different things could be expected. I don't "whore myself out for a dinner date", as I said I'm not comfortable accepting other people's money so I pay for my own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:42 AM
-1

It depends, hence the word something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:40 AM
1

Neither of those were things I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 AM
2

Well, it depends. Hence the word something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:49 PM
4

Something will be expected in return. In any case I am not comfortable with it and will never be. Good for your friends, I hope it keeps seeming that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:47 PM
3

Well I wasn't brought up to accept strangers buying things for me. It's never really free anyway. If you don't care or feel anything for the other person as a person you can get the same physical feeling way more easily and safely by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:42 PM
36

I don't get the point of sleeping with someone I feel nothing for. I might as well just masturbate at home. I don't need validation from other people so casual sex doesn't appeal to me. It's a different thing but with no emotion or connection there's no point in having a partner there at all. Casual sex just leaves both parties worse off usually even if in the moment they say it's "fun". I don't want strangers to buy things for me and make me feel like I owe them something. I don't care if other…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:30 PM
1

Women just use different lines on each other than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:54 PM
1

Well I wasn't talking about America or the practicalities of proving it in court. Only rarely would sexual assault be considered proven anyway. Even a sexual assault that nobody ever speaks about is still sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:49 PM
1

And you do for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:46 PM
2

At that point you're dancing around labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:46 PM
1

That's a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:40 PM
3

Trying to work out if I know him or not, something on his face, weird style, etc. If I was into him I wouldn't just gawk at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:38 PM
2

He didn't just "open up", he told his girlfriend he couldn't see himself marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:29 PM
1

That doesn't mean you can't seek action if you believe the reason was unlawful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:54 PM
0

Well, no. It's not symmetrical. You can like people you're not attracted to but you can't be that attracted to people you don't even like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:37 PM
0

My best friend is a man, most of my closest friends are men, and my husband used to be a good friend of mine (I mean he still is but just that). I've never been attracted to someone I didn't like even if I'm not attracted to everyone I like (I swear people on this subreddit never seem to get the difference between "if" claims and "if and only if" claims).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:24 PM
1

I'm sure I'm not identical to you Mr KamuiObito. But I know my sex drive is a lot higher than once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:22 PM
1

That photographer cost more than my 2024 wedding. Our parents offered to pay but ended up just giving us cash that we'll put towards a mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:46 PM
-1

How can you be attracted to someone you don't even like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:44 PM
2

Might as well have them in the room while you're talking to all your friends and family, the more confidential the better. Actually they shouldn't leave your side ever. Just to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:39 PM
-1

That was a lot of words to say you can't give a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:36 PM
-1

So you're going to produce a reason why it wouldn't be applicable more broadly then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:04 PM
9

Because "modern women" have access to contraception and therefore a choice. Having children is often not a pleasant experience especially if you are giving birth to them and facing the permanent physical and mental implications of that. You might find raising children a fun idea but not everyone does and those who feel they have something better to do aren't trapped but can just say no. It's nowhere near half though, 80% of women say they want children. If it was half you'd need every woman who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:54 PM
0

I wish that was true but unfortunately it happens in all countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:50 PM
0

Are Americans all gig workers or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:49 PM
-1

Yeah they're only thinking about adults but by this logic small children are even more valuable, unless they're excluded from this ranking system for...please give a reason if you believe this. Very often theories are disproven by showing they have unwanted implications beyond the simple case the theorist was thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:44 PM
1

So you can't take legal action for having your employment wrongfully terminated? I mean I don't know where you live but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:42 PM
1

Delusional, goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:40 PM
6

I think they see it as a special exception to consent. Nobody would say that if you were coerced like this to give money it wasn't theft. But sex? If it happens then it's consensual I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:39 PM
1

You'd get information much more quickly and specific to your location, which I don't know, by looking it up. That is, if you're genuinely interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:37 PM
10

Then those people need to go to their union. Just because something shouldn't happen or is illegal doesn't mean it never happens. The rest of what you said is entirely off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:10 AM
1

If you seriously think women would collectively refuse to date men over a £10 bowl of pasta that is apparently essential to be attracted to any man ever I have nothing further to say to you because that would make you delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:37 AM
6

Actually I can't. If I want to quit there are certain dates I must hand in my notice by so I can quit the next term. Most jobs have notice periods. You will also need to give a reason for firing past probation. Firing people for certain reasons such as on the basis of protected characteristics is illegal and if you believe that has happened you can take it to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:35 AM
10

I don't live in "the US or most western jurisdictions". All I said about prostitution was I think it should be illegal and I'm not going into it further because it's besides the point here. You don't have a right to be hired but you do have a right to not be unjustly fired. People lose their money all the time but we still think stealing isn't okay because it's an unjust way of losing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:23 AM
2

It is concrete. There is a concrete list of rights it gives you and your partner. It's much harder to break than an informal agreement like free use. There are no guarantees in life but that doesn't mean nothing can have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:21 AM
1

My libido is a lot more than you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:18 AM
1

And if men didn't themselves collectively decide to pay, by themselves not mind controlled, this wouldn't be a thing. This is the consequence of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:02 AM
22

Whether you agree or disagree it's against the Equality Act. Certain jobs can have requirements or quotas at point of entry but after being hired they can't fire people or treat them any differently (besides reasonable adjustments) on the basis of a protected characteristic. Consent is defined legally although for the record I think it's also immoral. Stealthing is illegal. I think that prostitution should be and I'm not sure why you're acting that that would be a shocking thought. You don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:46 AM
61

There are legitimate reasons and illegitimate reasons for firing someone. You can fire someone because they're shit at their job, but firing someone because they're gay is illegal as it infringes on their rights (in this case to equal treatment due to sexual orientation). Firing someone based on them not wanting to perform sexual acts on you is infringing on their right to sexual self-determination and is usually sex-based discrimination as well. Performing sexual acts on a specific person that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:22 AM
-1

They're valued so much that baby girls are left out to die because their parents wanted a son.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:14 AM
7

If you're measuring personal value by how much sympathy you get if something terrible happens to you, then the most valuable, and therefore successful apparently, people in the world are babies and small children who haven't done shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:12 AM
1

I'm not American. Are there countries where women mind control men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:08 AM
2

What do you not consider meaningful about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:07 AM
-1

If men all chose not to pay they wouldn't have this "problem". But they choose to and that's on them. Women aren't mind controlling them into doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:26 PM
1

How is it a need? And why would that mean there aren't both healthy and unhealthy ways of fulfilling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:59 PM
1

That's not proving your argument. You're talking about something most women don't even like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:58 PM
1

I'm 22 and married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:32 PM
–

It might've been enjoyable. Doesn't mean it's healthy or even that anyone else would enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:26 PM
1

Why would I want him to be less attractive to me? Most men like curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:10 PM
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Just because you want something doesn't mean every way you can get that thing is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:09 PM
8

There are some truly lovely, wonderful men who have changed my life for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:47 PM
4

What's the difference, other than people consenting to free use?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:45 PM
1

Partnered sex is not a need. And it can still be unhealthy. Food is a need but you can still pick unhealthy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:45 PM
0

And who are you to declare it's healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:22 PM
7

You'd only read that as sex if you were a fourteen-year-old with a dirty of mind. My husband does not have a duty to "unconditionally accept" me going inside him at all times no matter what. That is a gross misreading of marriage, it isn't a free use kink. You accept them as your life partner not your sex toy. Accepting them means not fucking raping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:20 PM
1

Just because you found it easy to get doesn't mean it's healthy. There's a difference between easy and good. If you want a relationship then go for a relationship rather than fucking about not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:18 PM
1

If you really thought this the solution should surely be to suck it up. Idk about you but I'd far rather have sex once a week (how terrible) than abuse anyone. Unless, I guess, you already wanted to abuse people anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:55 PM
6

It...literally is a job. It can be rewarding and fun and all kinds of things but at the end of the day people do get paid to be childminders (and it costs a lot). It's exhausting and most of it is far from glamorous and if you're a parent of that child you do. Not. Get. Any. Breaks. Even the things I love doing most would drive me to tears if I had to do them always and they kept pooing themselves. You'd see more men doing it if it imposed no burdens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:50 PM
10

Which vow is this? I think I must've skipped the part of the vows that said "I'm entitled to rape my husband and must let him rape me". I'm pretty sure we promised to care for and about each other? What kind of marriage do you have if not forcing yourself to be violated to cater to your partner's whims is considered some horrible transgression?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:45 PM
0

Healthy sex is not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:40 PM
5

Compared to relationship sex? I don't think many would agree there but you do you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:40 PM
1

I've never heard of anyone who did that who didn't either cheat, get cheated on, get made to (e.g. for a medical exam) or get exposed to another transmission method (e.g. blood transfusions).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:39 PM
5

There are lots of other reasons for an adult to have money but if that was the only reason that would also show a lack of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:36 PM
1

"Friends" with benefits are prone to end badly at the best of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:35 PM
0

If you thought it was healthy you wouldn't have used the word "using"...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:34 PM
1

You're the person embarrassing yourself here. I'm not making "CMV ExcelsiorState718 can't defend his point". If you could reply you would've just replied, doesn't matter whether it's a post or comment, but I know you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:30 PM
1

Their partners hate having a more attractive partner? I don't like muscles so that would just be a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:28 PM
-2

I didn't say they couldn't be swayed or influenced or convinced but that's their decision. They could be swayed by anything. Still their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:27 PM
-1

Poor men, if only they could control their own actions! But we all know any tiny influence means they can't possibly!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:12 AM
1

She can only jump multiple levels if most men love it and find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:40 AM
1

They're not attracted to themselves or constantly looking at themselves to decide how to treat themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:39 AM
1

I think seeing "preferring" younger women is a default and paedophilia are pretty comorbid. The preference range is always given as 18-whatever age and I don't imagine many just so happen to only find a woman attractive at the exact moment of her eighteenth birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 AM
9

But of course it's about a lack of trust, if you trusted them you wouldn't get a medical test to prove they aren't lying. Your "stories" might be a reason to mistrust your partner, they might be a justification, but they don't mean you trust them actually. No babies are coming out of me, I don't have a horse on this race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:24 AM
3

It's not "hijacking" to defend your own point. You can just admit you can't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:21 AM
1

Men are quite literally in control of whether they gift meals to other people. They won't end up paying on any date unless they offer. If every man decided to only pay for himself on a date the world would keep turning and nobody would be too sad and I guess some men would be £10 richer. Men are the people deciding paying on dates is something they should do (and they get really pushy about it). Yet this is women's fault somehow because everything must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:16 AM
6

You can't answer. So why should anyone answer you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:41 AM
0

Age gap relationships tend to be unhealthy and end in tears. If people your own age aren't "working out", someone much older has even less of a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:39 AM
4

So you can't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:38 AM
6

Would you like your partner, suspecting you of cheating and worried about their health, to get a secret STD test or tell you about it? I think it's better to tell so you can both work to fix that very broken relationship (unless it's a case of actual ambiguity, for example if you were both openly sleeping around at the time of conception, in which case why not tell).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:36 AM
0

Blaming women for being manipulated and lied to (they're picking the wrong people or have the wrong nebulous "vibe"), what a classic. How you treat others is very much your own responsibility, not theirs. Men rarely complain about being used for sex because it's rare that they do get lied to just because another person wants only casual sex from them and doesn't otherwise care about them, instead looking down on them and thinking they're beneath them or have a "weird vibe".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:32 AM
5

What else are men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:29 AM
11

It is supposed to be but often isn't, especially if the other person lies to you or doesn't particularly care about you. Casual doesn't mean bad but usually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:28 AM
2

Anglicans get godparents and my husband has I believe never spoken to his.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:51 PM
1

That would've been the perfect situation to treat her to a very special home cooked meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:58 PM
2

You mean the trend of not having any in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:11 PM
2

Infinite men proposing in private then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:07 PM
2

You think men are just randomly proposing all over the place?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:19 PM
3

No, you said they have "virtually infinite" men offering to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:14 PM
2

Then I must have an amazing well-paying job! Of course I'll go to university to make that happen!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:11 PM
4

Women count themselves lucky to have one man willing to marry them and many don't even have that, what is this delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:10 PM
3

Well I don't need to pay it back so the loan doesn't really matter. I'd take my chances with a 65% chance of far better quality of life. Even if I didn't complete, my quality of life would most likely improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:08 PM
1

Yet the people who give grants can't play by their rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:04 PM
1

If you want the grants to stop existing then you and everyone like you must change your attitude to employing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:11 PM
1

A couple of my mates made a formal announcement then showed up with girlfriends. Maybe they wanted to seem like they weren't trying too hard idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:06 PM
1

Just wait until they start nearing thirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:05 PM
2

I don't get why you'd make anyone buy a specific dress. Like you could express a style and colour preference but not a specific price point. I felt bad enough inviting people to a destination wedding in the place I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:02 PM
3

Very few men are choosing to no longer be in any relationships after having some. Do you think all relationships are damaging? Why would they want to be damaged further?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:57 PM
10

If they were happiest single they'd end their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:43 PM
1

Ha ha ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:41 PM
-1

Well that wasn't clear. Anyway, if you think they'll reject you based on it surely you wouldn't want them to ever find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:03 AM
3

They're usually pickier is what makes up a lot of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:59 AM
-1

It sounds exhausting to hide that for a whole relationship. You'd just spend it worried your partner doesn't like the real you when it's very likely they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:35 AM
2

It could be argued that sexual release is a need but partnered sex is certainly a luxury. You don't need it, you might enjoy it but you'll be fine without it. People who are desperate for a need like food or clothes will take anything but if they can't find a sex partner they find attractive or who will do the exact acts they like with them they just won't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:26 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:22 AM
0

So they just voice them all completely logically and calmly to everyone do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:21 AM
2

That's not a fake story, that's what you told me about your friends yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:06 PM
2

Men or women can lie or spread rumours, but most don't. Seems like you've picked friends who run in those circles and like telling silly lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:52 PM
1

I'm saying you're talking about a hypothetical scenario, not an actual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:44 PM
1

You'd be the first man to ever do that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:08 PM
1

She's not a woman she's not even real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:07 PM
2

That "negative energy" is actually confronting the problem. You have chosen not to. Do you always tell everyone logically why you're angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:50 PM
1

Is that what you do when someone upsets you, confront them after they've ran away and say they've done nothing wrong there? She even did call you and you complained about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:39 PM
2

You never even asked for an explanation. You don't know what could've changed that night. You can't read thoughts so why not ask! It was your decision not to ask and to run away instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:32 PM
1

This woman isn't in my group, she doesn't even exist! I don't want anyone to lie, don't want money, don't care about people being settled for and don't have a "kind".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:27 PM
2

How do you know there isn't a logical explanation? You didn't even ask. Staying in the house and finding out what's wrong would be the bare minimum of helping but you didn't do that so I don't think you'd "do anything" to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:26 PM
1

Name a failed attempt then. Where the corporation was actually trying to sell that thing, not sell soap or underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:11 PM
2

What do you mean? It's false if they say it's false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:54 PM
-2

If you're visibly upset do you need to go around telling other people why? Especially if they did something to hurt you and you assume they know why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:49 PM
2

The statistics are the results of the surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:48 PM
4

Statistical evidence. How have you managed to see so many "false" accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:47 PM
-2

They weren't trying to advertise obesity. They were trying to advertise underwear and soap. They did quite well in making those advertisements reach the obese market as intended. Body hair was considered perfectly acceptable in women until women's razors started being sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:45 PM
0

Well that sounds toxic. If you don't want to ask or talk about it the assumption would be that you know rather than wanting to just ignore someone who's angry at you and not even caring why they feel that way. How would you like it if you were visibly upset and your partner didn't care why and instead left the house and ignored you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:41 PM
4

You may feel that. Any reason to think it that isn't your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:37 PM
1

Please look at the actual topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:36 PM
3

We do, way more people in anonymous surveys have admitted to rape than false accusations of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:36 PM
0

You're talking about a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:08 PM
-1

I'm sure you feel otherwise but statistical evidence is on my side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:08 PM
-4

That doesn't play out statistically at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:07 PM
0

No, as on the balance of probabilities someone who says they were raped is very likely telling the truth, and someone who says they were falsely accused is very likely lying. If a woman says she was falsely accused of rape a man should run.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:26 PM
4

I'm sure you feel that way but all evidence we have says that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:23 PM
1

No, that's not what they asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:22 PM
6

Thanks for the anecdote about a different thing. Sounds like you need better friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:41 PM
1

Brunettes/black hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:33 AM
3

Because they wanted to know something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:32 AM
1

Liking someone so much you want to be with them always.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:15 AM
1

So the woman you're talking about isn't real. You have imagined her. She could exist but you don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:15 AM
6

False accusations are rare. They are a stranger I have no reason to trust. Oh would you look at that, I appear to have just had a family emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:12 AM
6

It doesn't matter if he's other women's type, he could still be very much yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:06 AM
2

He's absolutely stunning. I often just stare at him naked. I didn't notice how he looked until I knew him though (I never do), so I know my feelings about him can colour my judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:05 AM
1

So this really happened to your girlfriend then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:39 PM
-4

By not making up situations in their head to get angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:34 PM
2

I know you feel women you don't agree with are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:32 PM
1

If you have to do it again I'd recommend Skyn, most people actually prefer them to latex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:31 PM
3

You're looking at this from a male perspective. Women don't usually get to "pick" the same way, they are picked and get to say yes or no to that one person in the moment, so the question is whether he personally is good enough rather than is he the best out of all the options. And you know, different strokes for different folks. Not everyone has the same taste as you and your sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:29 PM
1

The rings look normal, we just have lab stones. You could get one too, nobody's forcing you to get real diamonds someone died in a mine over. Wedding bands we literally walked into the first high street shop we thought of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:27 PM
0

Takes ten seconds. If that's too much effort idk how you could be bothered to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:22 PM
3

Nope! But I notice people, especially men, do have a habit of saying women they disagree with are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:19 PM
1

You're not supposed to get an implant if you haven't taken well to any pills, unless your issue was remembering to take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:17 PM
1

You could avoid that permanent thing with methods that don't harm any bodies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:16 PM
1

Because they hurt a lot and keep hurting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:15 PM
1

My rings, on the other hand, are exceedingly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:13 PM
1

Hardly any jobs or education courses have quotas and where they exist they tend to cut off dead weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:25 PM
1

I got told I was indoctrinating children multiple times...I teach maths.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:23 PM
1

Depends on the ring. I believe between all four of our rings my husband and I still spent a three figure amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:21 PM
1

I wanted two or three years and proposed two and a bit years in. Then a year to plan the wedding is plenty. I wouldn't wait to propose without good reason. I wouldn't go with the flow, I wanted someone who wanted the same things and wasn't just flowing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:18 PM
0

And other people think monogamy includes not liking pictures on Instagram apparently. What does it matter if people choose to gender it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:09 PM
2

How do you even think what you said is linked then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:08 PM
0

Did you mean to reply to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:20 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:19 PM
-2

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:44 PM
8

If you have sex with a same-sex friend it would be considered cheating in most relationships. Therefore same-sex friendships are impossible. See how this sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:34 PM
1

(I am a breadwinner.) Surely you want your partner to have the same standard of living rather than hoarding the money? Your partner isn't a roommate, you're a team and usually one person's earnings rely on the other's support and the money ends up as both of your money. If you see them as a parasite rather than wanting to help each other I don't think a live-in relationship is for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:33 AM
9

Alone because I don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:02 PM
1

We speak English.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:59 PM
1

I don't live in Ireland. There's a reason I didn't choose America.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:20 PM
1

English?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:19 PM
1

I assume like a sister wife, so he's also married to her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:11 PM
1

Tourism is nowhere near the biggest industry in any European country that isn't a microstate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:06 PM
1

America isn't a nice place to live. The life expectancy is lower too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:04 PM
4

They're neither paid nor qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:03 PM
1

Speaking English? No. I can speak three languages but Irish isn't one of them because nobody actually speaks it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:01 PM
4

Idc about submissive or feminine but I think doing a nice thoughtful thing is ruined by doing it because you were asked. It isn't really nice or thoughtful in that case, just an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:59 PM
1

In response to being hurt. Not just not doing something you might enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:30 PM
1

Those are called Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:23 PM
1

No it isn't. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make it trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:15 PM
1

Why do you spend half your degree not doing it? Isn't two years two more than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:14 PM
1

Most Irish people would struggle to communicate with an immigrant speaking the Irish national language.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:13 PM
2

I grew up in Ireland, moved to England when I was eighteen, and "Irish Americans" aren't Irish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:11 PM
2

Fuck your nationality too!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:09 PM
0

Gotta kick the Irish out of Ireland.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:01 PM
0

They have four years of medical training. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:59 PM
2

Personally if I've wanted someone to talk to me I've just gone and done it. If I didn't talk to them then I didn't want a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:25 PM
3

It is not trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:23 PM
2

She probably just said that to stop people getting in her business. Most would say it ruined their life but good for your friend if she's genuinely okay. I didn't say anything about any mental illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:48 PM
5

I mean I've never been in that situation but even if I liked them it sounds very awkward. Maybe save the poems and declarations of love for someone who's actually indicated they like you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:42 PM
3

Don't tell me you seriously think not having sex yet is traumatic like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:36 PM
1

And you think it's not desired because they're less commonly in relationships which is because they're rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:35 PM
1

You're saying something is not desired or wanted simply because it is uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:32 AM
5

What is it with red/black pillers and trying to make their "struggles" be taken more seriously by comparing then to rape? No they are not equivalent and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:54 AM
2

It's often not just one time, you're most likely to be raped by someone you know and if they did it once they're likely to do it again. And it will haunt you every day for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:51 AM
7

You mean it seems like they "just go on" to you...it's a traumatic experience that destroys your life not like just not having sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:49 AM
1

It is mandatory and they can't opt out. You can opt out of some aspects of sex ed only (often in a different lesson to the PSHE side).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:45 AM
-2

The blue pill is not any specific belief. All it means is you disagree with the red pill. You can disagree in various different ways and only need to agree with other blue pillers that the red pill is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:43 AM
1

They don't need to be disliked for it to be uncommon that people date someone with them. It's rare that those with hazel eyes are large breasts are dated too, because the traits themselves are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:40 AM
–

Are they trying to dress identical to the children or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:36 PM
–

What kind of school is she working in where jeans are okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:33 PM
1

I'm not teaching red pill "seduction" bullshit to fifteen-year-olds. I'd rightfully end up put on a list and rightfully they wouldn't listen to me. It's not "worsening dudes' prospects" to teach them to teach other people's consent, unless you think rape is a good "prospect".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:31 PM
-1

Idk about you but I'd be missed if I found my partner was secretly stowing away family money for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:31 PM
4

Simply excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:34 PM
4

Plenty of rape culture about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:17 PM
3

You've so much internalised this cultural notion you think it's a "biological urge". I really hope you're not getting this urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:09 PM
2

I have never heard of anyone masturbating while reading the book 50 Shades of Grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:07 PM
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Then what do you call it when every single man this man encounters supports rape? Is that a no-rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:05 PM
2

Good for him. Is he most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:04 PM
1

You're attracted to people you see as conventionally attractive. That's a type, so common a type it's called conventional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:04 PM
3

People generally masturbate to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:03 PM
1

Which is a type, just a very common type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:27 PM
1

Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:27 PM
2

The other man was queueing like everyone else. He didn't need a busybody doing things for him he didn't ask for and may not have wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:21 PM
1

The other man was queueing like everyone else. He didn't need a busybody doing things for him he didn't ask for and may not have wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:21 PM
1

Gender disappointment is far stronger the other way. There isn't a single country with a daughter preference. Unwanted girls often get less food and in some countries are routinely killed as babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:18 PM
1

Hot according to what? Oh right the type they share.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:13 PM
2

So you hate football too then? Often nobody scores the whole game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:09 PM
1

Women are way more aware of how to attract a man than you are don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:06 PM
4

It's not sexual desire. It's reading a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:00 PM
2

You can also have a crush on a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:00 PM
2

A crush isn't necessarily "someone from afar".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:43 PM
1

A good friend of mine from guides and church. I knew it was a crush because I thought about her all the time and wanted to kiss her a whole lot. I wanted to ask her out but I didn't, I just pined a lot. I told a couple of my closest friends that I had a crush but no other details. I was thirteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:42 PM
1

That's not an opinion...it's a statistical fact. You not liking it doesn't make it an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:39 PM
1

Stating a true fact is misandry now? Men are way less likely to want custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:23 PM
13

People don't read about what they want, they read about what's exciting. Books about happy healthy relationships with cute men/women where nothing bad happens are super boring. I love The Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:22 PM
-1

Don't hide it, just make sure he can't access it (it's probably best to leave it with other trusted people so he can never lay claim to it). You shouldn't be lying about taking things from joint funds. And he should actively support your safety net from the very start of the relationship if he doesn't want you to be potentially trapped (which could also happen due to illness and such). Single men willing to take you and your children in in an emergency because...well I guess the implication is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:08 PM
1

Your spouse is not a car. If I bought a shitty car and it breaks down I guess I have to pay for repairs or a new car. Okay it's not ideal but my life won't be ruined. If I married a shitty husband that'd change my life forever, either through living in resentment and abuse forever or going through copious heartbreak and divorce. People aren't things, they're much more important to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:02 PM
2

It is. I started it in PSHE with my form class this week. All schools must have it (all state schools anyway) and they're not allowed to opt out. The focus is on consent and healthy relationships and combating prejudice and stereotypes. We don't teach red pill "improvement" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:54 PM
1

She can, if she's really lucky, doesn't mean she will or that he'll be all that into her. There are more men into mentally ill women with a string of "crazy" exes than masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:49 PM
1

What part is misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:48 PM
1

That height is rare. There you go. Understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:47 PM
2

They usually end up with men who are around average in all those aspects. But how dare they don't give really short height a special priority I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:23 AM
2

Probably because they're not basing their partner choice on having a super rare height for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:21 AM
2

They're just rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:20 AM
1

Taking advantage? They quite literally signed up to it. Nobody made them do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:15 AM
6

What's most disturbing is that he approached more men than that and not a single one reported it. This is why we talk about a rape culture. These men knew there would be no consequences because fellow men made sure nothing was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:51 AM
6

I'm not sure why you're drawing that line between objectification and non-objectification when porn actually meets your criteria for objectification. Porn routinely shows both real and fictional instances of non-consent and sexual assault, and you have no way of knowing if all parties actually consented. It routinely shows depictions of people becoming uncomfortable and their boundaries being ignored, and porn actors are routinely made to act in scenes they feel uncomfortable with. Porn routinel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:39 AM
2

So you can't name any material consequences and are just deflecting. Wrong, the maximum sentence is in fact the same. Female rapists more rarely face consequences before you are more rare. You're mixing yourself up here - female rapists may well account for more cases of being forced to penetrate, but the majority of rapes involve being penetrator rather than forced to penetrate, which is why the majority of men who are raped report being raped by men. I don't think you care about male victims o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:32 AM
1

I wouldn't say most English people react well to American "friendliness" and I've never lived in London.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:50 PM
1

Me neither but I was there with my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:59 PM
1

English people are most of Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:55 PM
0

When I was in America a month ago the only people on the street seemed to be drug addicts and I kept nearly getting run over. I didn't see a single bus so not sure on the public transport front.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:51 PM
1

But it changes the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:16 PM
1

So you like different feminine clothing options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:36 PM
1

I don't mean feminine with a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:21 PM
1

Well that's not very useful is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:18 PM
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I guess those women didn't feel as intimate or connected as you. It happens, for men or women, especially if you've only met two or three times, meaning investment and sentimentality are low and your reading of them is likely to be off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:59 PM
1

So until all my peers are dead I should just assume they'll break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:57 PM
1

Oh my god it happened twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:28 AM
-1

Porn is about watching that woman yet It's about watching and getting off to her as a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:41 AM
0

You're focusing on everyone who breaks up, but I see everyone who stays together and I think I'm more like them. Divorce doesn't happen just at random even though it might look like that from an outside perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:09 AM
2

Those were racially motivated killings. The rape accusations were extraneous. Not to mention in a different century.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:58 AM
2

You really did mean a man, as in one man. People in America kill each other for no reason at all often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:24 AM
4

Well what material consequences does that have? Rapists very rarely face criminal consequences and women can face the exact same charges for sexual assault, it's just called a different word. Your claim that half of rapists are women is just made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:23 AM
1

The outcome is different depending on whether a rapist walks free without a care on their world or faces some kind of justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:21 AM
1

I think both are issues. No watching men as the focus of degradation rather than women would not help. There is no ethical treatment in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:19 AM
-1

Are they personified? Treated nicely? Presented as anything other than an object for the viewer to touch his dick to, existing purely for his pleasure? Are their desires ever paid any attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:18 AM
1

Idk what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:16 AM
6

To a scene that most certainly doesn't include "most men".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:22 PM
22

Present as masculine. No matter what she's like, that would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:07 PM
-2

Even porn where women are portrayed as dominant is objectifying and degrading to women. It's just a costume but we know who's really in control both through the screen and on set. Of course it also degrades male actors but in straight porn they're not really the focus and don't tend to get abused as much in the industry as far as we can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:06 PM
1

The outcome continues beyond the actual event, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:55 PM
2

It's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:19 PM
1

Do you not know anything that happened in the past when you weren't there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:19 PM
1

You can know something has happened happened without being physically at the event.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:26 PM
2

Sharing is bottom of the barrel. You'd need truly low standards to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:25 PM
1

How is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:24 PM
1

Since when?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:23 PM
2

Okay poor men how terrible etc etc. Whether one hundred women are raped by one man or one hundred different men, that's still one hundred rapes, the same harm. People taken seriously after not just supporting but performing sexual assault include many countries' presidents and members of the royal family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:03 PM
1

Because...Deadpool?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:21 PM
1

And men do rape, or do you think only women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:20 PM
2

What harm? Hurting their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:18 PM
3

And nobody supports blaming all men. But you can't trust any man if you don't know which men. Blanket distrust then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:18 PM
1

There. Are. Bystanders. They may not be physically standing by. But. If they just let it happen. Don't do anything. Don't support speaking up. They. Are. Bystanders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:17 PM
2

Apart from a tiny polyamorous minority, nobody is okay with sharing a partner. That's why cheating is frowned upon and harwms only exist under oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:06 PM
-5

If you refuse to call people out you're saying you'll always be a bystander, before, during or after the fact. You are helping them cover up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:24 AM
7

I think everyone owes each other more than that. It's not good enough to be a bystander while others do harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:10 AM
-2

It's not bad behaviour to like men who are tall. I'm talking about someone saying be careful of rape as there are men who rape and men chiming in with "nOt AlL mEn RaPe".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:37 AM
-3

Usually when men say not all men it's about some men doing some bad behaviour. It's not helpful at all, yes not all men but certainly SOME men and they should stop covering for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:29 AM
1

It's the criminal/celebrity factor. Did you really come onto a month-old post to give your opinion on a woman's looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:24 AM
-3

Okay so when women believe in locker room talk given this kind of evidence you believe them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:23 AM
-4

So you have a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:20 AM
10

Me too is about speaking up about rape and sexual assault. It's about telling the truth. Would you rather have nobody talk about it and keep these people protected? What would an ordinary non-criminal gain from crimes remaining hidden?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:20 AM
5

It doesn't matter how many different sexual assaulters there are if they affect most lives and you have no way of telling who they are. You'd think other men should support rooting them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:16 AM
1

No. Happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:16 PM
2

Even by their standards basically all prostitutes are raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:16 PM
-1

Still avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:34 PM
-1

Avoiding the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:29 PM
0

And how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:23 PM
0

Just because you haven't found a date yet doesn't mean you must become a hateful misogynist. Most who do could do something less dramatic like go out and socialise, or simply decide not to hate women due to not personally dating them right now this second, but that's too hard I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:22 PM
0

Not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:20 PM
5

Yet you're saying all the women who heard men discuss it are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
1

You asked how I would react.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
1

I'm a wee bit older than fourteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:31 PM
1

I'm not going to have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
1

Depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
5

And how do you "know" how women talk to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:29 PM
1

I teach maths. You can't teach or learn just algebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:48 PM
1

Who was talking about leaving anyone? Although I'm surprised you'd support relationships in the first place with that level of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:45 PM
1

If I randomly asked my partner to get an STD test right after getting married what would that look like? Well he could have one and I'm sure many people who trusted their partners got AIDS off them! Why should I trust anyone and think I'm the exception, I should always do everything myself and triple check every word! Why should I trust the test for that matter, could be rigged!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:38 PM
1

Don't have children with that person if you think there's a serious chance they'd do that. Realistic outcome is the man gets a negative test and remains paranoid (after all he still thinks she's cheating) and the woman gets to know at her most vulnerable that the man she's had children with thinks she's a hateful lying cheater and not to be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:10 PM
3

<image> About halfway through I remembered my students struggle to read my joint writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:05 PM
2

So you've never watched Orange is the New Black.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:59 PM
1

Like one who doesn't randomly accuse you of cheating and say if you don't settle their paranoia you're not caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:56 PM
1

Do you assume you're being cheated on at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:31 PM
1

Being a part of someone's family is an incredibly prominent reason to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:01 PM
1

Because they should already have peace of mind before choosing to have children! They shouldn't be having them if that's what's troubling their mind! They'll probably think that mum is cheating afterwards too, indeed she could've already cheated but just didn't conceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:57 PM
1

To become a part of their family and be able to visit in hospital etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:55 PM
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