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I believe it was mentioned on The Student Room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:09 PM
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Apart from his clear plans to discard them like clockwork. That's not something you do when you care about someone. You actually don't want to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:18 PM
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I didn't say anything about their choices. I was just pondering whether Leonardo DiCaprio actually liked them very much, and it doesn't seem like he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:14 PM
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If you actually like someone, a breakup over incompatible life choices is heartbreaking, and it's just not something anyone would choose on purpose. He could just date women who don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:09 PM
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He doesn't have any children as far as I'm aware. He's also not staying with them, he's leaving them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:40 PM
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Yes, he ritualistically discards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:12 PM
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Most of the statistics on maps of this kind are essentially completely made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:04 AM
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He clearly doesn't find them that attractive, otherwise he wouldn't ritualistically discard them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:56 AM
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Me too. Basically all medicines can be taken in another form like liquid or patches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:26 PM
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I've only really come across people who've done it because one of both had a significant move. So either they do it at a location tied to them and most count it as a destination wedding (I did this) or they go to an unrelated location because most would have to travel anyway so might as well make it somewhere nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:24 PM
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That is literally the point of work. No you are not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:15 AM
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He's not just "dressing like" a slob, he is a slob who is presumably not washing his clothes. He's dressing like a broke student who hasn't made friends with the washing machine and he's probably going to expect her to do all his chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:13 AM
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If you did, you would tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:11 AM
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Say what you want but you're not going to normalise incest. Even people in those relationships have a gut response that something is very wrong. And of course if they're different generations then there is an inherent power imbalance that never goes away, if someone is your parent, aunt, uncle, or grandparent they always have that role and will not be on a peer level. I think this is also true of the relationship between older and younger siblings. (Cousins is a bit different but it's a bit more…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:44 PM
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It's really unfortunate due to how many children are born from those marriages with severe disabilities. It's not so risky to have a child with your cousin, but if both of you are children of cousin marriages, the gene pool is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:40 PM
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They're usually just throwing words around without really knowing what they mean, making up the definitions as they go along.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:58 AM
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So that is a pension? Idk the other abbreviations either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:46 AM
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Is IRA in American like a pension? Means a terrorist organisation where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:55 PM
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You can't actually get divorced before being married for one year where I'm from. Only an annulment, if you're eligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:49 PM
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My sister is nineteen, and in a relationship, and will only date someone who's also Irish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:38 PM
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I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:14 PM
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No, any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:03 PM
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The date or flight is just a different kind of gift so it's really about which they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:24 PM
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Men call women "pot bellied" when their stomachs aren't perfectly flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:22 PM
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If you're the default parent then you often simply don't have time or mental space to worry about your own health never mind your looks, especially as most will work now on top of being expected to do nearly all the childcare when they're not working. You'll eat more due to stress, have barely time to cook never mind get something healthy, and you can forget about even thinking about exercise for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:18 PM
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See, I'd take issue with those comments if everything went as you say. I think the response to the other person was more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:35 PM
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Well, what would that question even achieve? You can't force a feeling like attraction and even top science has barely scratched the surface of how it works and why we may feel that way, love is one of the greatest human mysteries. It's not like she can just reconsider then suddenly start feeling attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:26 PM
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Because you can't afford to pay for two houses at once? I guess that makes most people losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:25 PM
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It doesn't make you a loser to be in that situation temporarily, it's just unfortunate on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:12 AM
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Housing is expensive and tough to find in many places, and you can't get out of a mortgage or rental agreement immediately. It must be so awkward to be in that situation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:42 AM
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They would love to be loved for anything other than their looks, yet they know that's often unrealistic, so better improve your looks and draw attention to them to have a shot at love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:27 PM
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They would love, so much, to be wanted for anything but their body. They want their body to be irrelevant so badly. They would be ecstatic to be loved no matter what they look like because their body doesn't matter. They want to be desired for who they are. They don't want to be called ugly and told their body looks unattractive because that shows that their body does matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:34 PM
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Women YEARN to be loved regardless of how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:14 PM
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Women DREAM of being wanted for their personality. It is the ultimate romantic fantasy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:47 PM
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I got to know him a lot as a friend. We were very close. The information I learned about him after asking him out was significant and contained things that may have been dealbreakers that I didn't know before. It's a whole other side of his personality I also had to get along with. It's not just about being one-dimensional "good" or "bad", people can be incompatible in various ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:17 PM
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My husband and I were before our relationship and still are very close friends. There was definitely information revealed after our relationship became romantic. Sure, we knew the all facts about each other you'd tell a best friend, but not the intimate details you'd only tell a partner (not necessarily sexual but just a different kind of vulnerable). We each had no idea how the other would be in terms of sex, or what it would be like to live together. I got to know an even sweeter, cuter, more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:54 PM
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Maybe dominant men need even more extreme women. I could fix them ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:34 AM
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Treatment can cost nothing, or if you're unlucky enough to have to pay for healthcare you may have enough to afford both. If you can't get money together then obviously you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:08 PM
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I don't know much about those parties, and it isn't an issue of just one party or side having systematic sexism. All major parties across the world do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:19 PM
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I can imagine that very well. I also don't need to imagine; men do that, quite a lot actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:46 PM
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Please don't use the word "statistically" if you're going to say that a range of data is any kind of average. You're thinking about the medical, probably, which would be the value in the middle of that range of a normal distribution (I assume that's what you're referring to with the 68%). This data set wouldn't be a normal distribution though so you're just very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:44 PM
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You know, you could just not respond rather than call me stupid and offer nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:20 PM
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It's just not, like, an abnormal thing for people to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:34 PM
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So it's not about physical possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:11 PM
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Whatever, they're less likely than similar men. I'm sure you'd be a very competent PM despite not supporting or thinking you benefit from people who aren't exactly like you. Quotas by definition don't make the lists in favour of anyone, they make them representative. You can't pick which white man you specifically want to vote for, picking candidates is not a liberty you had to begin with so you're not losing any in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:58 PM
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It is completely physically possible for women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:55 PM
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Why do you keep replying to my comments ranting about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:54 PM
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Because they're human I suppose. It's rather relevant and people often think that giving "warnings" is doing a favour. It might help for someone to get some money together or find a family member that they can live with of their partner leaves them. It's pretty normal to have general social welfare leaflets around hospitals, libraries, council buildings, etc even if the visitors aren't expected to be at particular risk, these are just giving advice which I assume you'd agree is not spreading any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:53 PM
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There are plenty of dad CEOs and politicians who don't seem to find this a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:36 PM
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I hope you got something out of that rant, because I don't think anyone else did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:28 PM
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It's the fault of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:18 PM
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I'm talking about competent women here. They have a worse chance at succeeding than men who are a bit less competent. Quotas still let you vote for who you want, voters never get to pick the candidate list themselves in any system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:04 PM
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Who says that they lied? You really don't think doctors and nurses can believe things that are based on little evidence or even false? Working as a professional I know of several myths or baseless practices in my field that are still believed and practiced by some colleagues (fyi "learning styles" are not real). I know of doctors and nurses that are anti vax!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:52 PM
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The work needed to establish a political party can take millions of people and decades of years. No one candidate is able to "put in the work" all by themselves and you wouldn't criticise a male candidate this way. Women have an unequal chance to run for political office as those chances are not given to them, they have a bad chance of getting taken on by a party and an awful chance of running independently. Women know they will not be successful, that's why they run for office less, as they see…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:44 PM
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There are vanishingly few opportunities for new political parties to make enter party politics in any significant sense, especially beyond local council level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:36 PM
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It's completely physically possible. A few months of sabbatical to recover from a couple of pregnancies won't stop you from being a CEO or politician. You're talking about childcare, which mothers don't need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:30 PM
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Being the main child carer is a huge woman penalty. It's not they like the have to be the default parent. Similar effects are seen even if a woman doesn't have children due to perceptions, for example women are less likely to be hired if they use Mrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:27 PM
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The film is set in America, they could choose to work in McDonald's if they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:24 PM
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Women can, in fact, be sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:22 PM
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I think the other facets you're looking for are party ideology, internalised sexism and race. Surely you're not arguing Trump is more competent than Harris (note I'm talking about competency, not agreeing with their ideology).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:21 PM
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It's not just about voting. Parties decide to put forward less female candidates and they're less likely to be in safe seats. The decisions about who ends up in parliament/government happen mainly at the party political level and it's an old boys' club with no incentive to change. I have voted in an election with over five candidates and all were male, another one where there was only one female candidate in a party that would never ever get a seat in that area, how could I make a move for equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:18 PM
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Most women (or men, for that matter) I know aren't currently long-term single. That wasn't the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:26 AM
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Maybe your social circle is unusual or are you just assuming things about their sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:12 AM
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Most of them, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:16 AM
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That's just in the past year. They may also have been in a relationship/sleeping with someone at any point in the year but celibate for most of it and wouldn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:15 AM
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I don't think most people see it as gender-neutral at all. Most people would also say it is wrong and bad and reason to end a relationship, but your friends are supportive for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:07 AM
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When was that "discovered" and why do you seem under the impression this is a widely-known fact? And why do all your friends support cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:33 PM
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If you only lightly wipe the crumbs off the countertop, it's not done. It's not safe to prepare food there and it will get dirtier again quicker. If you leave the dishes until later, they're obviously not done at all, and this creates more work for later as they'll be done quicker the earlier you do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:52 PM
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I don't see it that way personally, but I guess I'm married with no plans to have children. Economic pessimism has certainly increased but in reality living standards have generally been going up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:41 PM
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The marriage rate is also falling. There are more married couples without children now I guess, but the rising numbers of people without children is driven by unmarried people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:59 PM
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By "fine" you mean "inefficiently, leaving more work to be done later, probably by someone else".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:45 PM
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After waiting. It's not really "waiting" in that it's not intentional, just doing it only when we're both ready and not rushing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:57 AM
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The examples you give of what "women" would want just reflect someone who's probably actually doing most of the chores and is doing a little bit every day rather than waiting for a big mess that's harder to clean up later. (The earlier you do your dishes the shorter the time it will take!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:02 AM
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No, I just see sex as something to do with someone you know well and are fully comfortable with. It's one of the most vulnerable things someone can do and comes with significant risks, so naturally you may want to actually be close with those you do it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:58 AM
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English people never used guillotines, it'd be much more gruesome I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:28 PM
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I'm not talking about "house chores" kind of work. Those men would generally do similar work. The world over most men and women have usually done farming, they'd do that together. Then where I'm from both men and women would do spinning and weaving, women would do it at home a bit more often though. After that was a shift to modern work. Unless you're trying to argue WFH isn't work, or minimum wage isn't work, women have always worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:35 PM
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What's the difference you think I should be aware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:08 PM
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You're talking about a different topic entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:06 PM
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Most single people just live with housemates when not with parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:46 PM
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Women (except the super wealthy) have always worked. The difference through time has just been what kind of work and for what kind of/how much compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:45 PM
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Male and female are genders/sexes. If you're only into one (i.e. not bisexual) are you bigoted against the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:43 PM
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Good for you that you've never had that much to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:12 PM
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Oh yeah gambling is big, but I wouldn't call much of that investment or money management.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:11 PM
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And you know it's the same women doing these things how? Have you considered that different women are perhaps different? Occam's razor suggests that there's a group of kinky women that keep enjoying it and a separate group of non-kinky women who don't, instead of all women liking one type of sex then suddenly deciding they hate it for mysterious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:51 PM
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Normally investments are just your pension and low risk stuff. The men I know are often into government bonds for some reason, which are not great in general but not exactly risky. Although maybe UK and Ireland just have pretty risk averse cultures compared to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:46 PM
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They're aspirational!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:42 PM
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It also doesn't include any men who become dads at 50+ (probably not that many, but it'll be more common than women giving birth at that age).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:38 PM
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How many men do have children but don't "officially"? That barely ever happens to women for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:36 PM
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The idea behind it is that someone who is stressed and tired from doing too much housework isn't likely to feel horny or have energy for sex, so pulling your weight with chores will help. With that said my husband can seduce me with his cooking but I think he's just that good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:34 PM
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Is it sexist to not be bisexual then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:16 PM
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"Defer" is a weird word to say it's mainly their chore. Unless I can also say I defer to my husband for laundry decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:28 PM
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Investment is household management. Someone with less working hours will usually pick more of it up as they pick up other chores. It doesn't need a great deal of competency imo but there are probably other reasons why men may prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:16 PM
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It depends on how and when it's used. Sometimes women and children are helpful to be bundled together, for example when describing who a maternity hospital serves or who might be vulnerable to domestic abuse from men, and sometimes it's less useful. Women and children are not protected by default in emergency situations, this phrase came from the Titanic and was notable mainly because it was an outlier, where women and children made up disproportionately high numbers of deaths in any other shipw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:13 PM
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Breadwinners don't usually manage money (as said by others that's what your study is really measuring, not what they put in) as much as their partners as they're generally busier with making money. Making purchases and choosing financial products are chores they may not have as much time to do (I suppose men generally prefer those chores too). Checks out in my relationship, I earn and put in more but it means I have less time for managing how it's saved and spent than my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:06 PM
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I moved from Northern Ireland to England when I was 18 for university, stayed in that city until I was 23, then moved to a different city in England a few months back. My husband also left the town he's from, he is English but it's still pretty far away. I visit a lot though, I'm actually in NI at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:46 AM
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If you do it then old fashioned way and already know each other then it's fun. Otherwise I see how a first date could be unpleasant even if you're doing something that's otherwise fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:35 AM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:40 AM
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Sounds good (well, maybe if I was a bit older) so long as he isn't too shy to get asked out. Why would I want him to have dated other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:37 AM
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I know so many straight couples where the man lives with his parents, in quite a few cases the woman moves in too! Maybe you're living somewhere houses are cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:34 AM
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Actually, a quite similar situation happened with a friend of mine come to think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:32 AM
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I don't think there are more women but where else is explicitly for meeting kinky women if you ask where to meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:52 PM
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It's not going to make either of them happy and the relationship will likely fail. Turns out it's not a good thing for your relationship to be a second job in exchange for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:36 PM
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I don't think that most people who practice kink really want to socialise doing it and go to munches. Especially not women for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:35 PM
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You think it's strange to not want to have casual sex with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:56 PM
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So you don't want your partner to have any friends or family? You know you can share things with multiple people, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:36 PM
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Why would it take anything away?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:15 PM
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Thirty years ago and adult man who lived with his parents would have higher dating difficulty related to that than now. Men's and women's dating preferences and priorities both change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:44 PM
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Why wouldn't you? Are you sure you want to be with someone who refuses to care for any other woman beyond being just an acquaintance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:41 PM
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Do straight people genuinely want to be the only non-related man/woman their partner is close with? How would you expect your partner to be normal with you if he doesn't allow himself to form relationships of any kind with ANY women who aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:10 PM
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Do you find it deceptive when your male friends go to parties and have casual sex? The issue is that you and your "friend" are not actually wanting to be friends with these women, otherwise this would be such a non-problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:08 PM
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You know this is not what people with options do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:10 PM
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Let's not pretend they're just doing it because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:00 PM
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To each their own I guess. What's the relevance anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:38 AM
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TIL nothing bad can ever happen to you after age forty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:37 AM
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Come on, you don't seriously believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:32 AM
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Self-explanatory. You use AI, there are no other people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:29 AM
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Real women. At least with the AI version he is only hurting himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:13 AM
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Is that not a venue? I got married in a city hall registry office and it was genuinely nicer than other venues we'd looked at which had extra fees. I'm always sharing my wedding pictures with the world, and he's 5'4".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:12 AM
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Irish people. It's just me and I've only recently returned. Even the Brits have vanished!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:52 AM
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It's actually a thing in Ireland. You call any woman she and we say "who's she, the cat's mother?" In England, we also use it for teachers. You basically use Miss or Sir as a pronoun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:46 AM
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I didn't say those things were the same (although many prostitutes are forced to do it). The point was about victim blaming. Nobody with actual freedom and equal opportunities is choosing prostitution and prostitutes aren't free to set prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:44 PM
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I don't do that, my private business stays private. People have shared with me and they seem to think it's like anything else, they played some football yesterday then later they had a nice hookup. If I'm planning on speaking to them again, saying politely I'm not comfortable talking about that works fine, I suggest you do the same if it bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:03 PM
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In many countries, slavery is illegal, yet slaves aren't punished, just slave owners. Do these countries hate rich people? (Yes, this is exactly how silly your argument sounds.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:15 PM
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I don't think anyone should do 50/50 by default unless they earn the same because it's not fair. A lower earning partner could end up with little to nothing for themselves and a loving partner wouldn't let them do that. A couple that acts as a team rather than adversaries will support each other and give proportionally to what they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:22 AM
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Could you at least give a case where this would happen? I'm giving my genuine expectation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:09 PM
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When is Thanksgiving actually supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 PM
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I don't expect to ever be in such a situation that it would be necessary. So no, I don't expect that, because if he did then he'd be doing something needless and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:04 PM
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I can't think of a situation where that would ever realistically happen as a sum zero decision, even on the Titanic there were lifeboats going half empty. I expect in any dangerous situation that we would help each other as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:25 PM
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They investigate and work out if there's an actual problem. Then they most likely resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:36 PM
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I do need to be aware but I have DCD/dyspraxia and that is a symptom. Everyone else has told me it's not like that for them unless they haven't used that part in that way for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:03 PM
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Well you don't do it outside the bedroom generally. And it's normal to pretend/exaggerate for a bit of fun outside a sexual context too. It's also normal to do things for fun in the bedroom that might look silly in another context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:01 PM
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I think it's UK law (or just NI law) as at my city hall (registry office) wedding the (secular) registrar said it. I think the point of it is to say if one of them is already married or the other one's siblings or forced into it or something, it's also just traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:58 PM
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It's impossible to write an exhaustive list of things that are creepy and what's creepy will depend on context. You're essentially asking "how do I socialise in an appropriate way" and it would take writing a whole book to scratch the surface of that, people generally learn this in childhood taking years to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:54 PM
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I mean, your penis doesn't stay hard after you've finished and isn't available 24/7. It also might not have other fun features that other toys have like having a vibrator attached. And if you're using just your penis and expecting it to be "good enough" your partner will almost certainly need to stimulate herself to get off, most women don't orgasm that way. (My husband owns multiple strokers and I think they do a great job.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:48 PM
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You know that on a dating app the same profile will be shown to both men and women if you select both as your preference, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:20 PM
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I assume she's talking about her preference in women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:14 PM
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If you care about your partner being close in height to you, you care about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:13 PM
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Humans don't need to eat three times a day. I guess we do need less sleep than most animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:08 AM
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You actually can move whenever you want, you don't need to wait for a handsome prince to take you. My husband is from a different country and culture, I know it doesn't mean you can't be in love but why actively seek out barriers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:58 AM
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No, they're just working to get food etc all the time. Harder than for humans, who are efficient enough to actually get a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:57 AM
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Why do you hate people from your own culture so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:54 AM
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"Western" countries aren't all the same. I live a swimmable distance to France and it's still culturally very different. Who says they think an American life is better? Even if they happen to want to live there (they could've just moved already if they wanted to), there will still be difficulties that someone from the country wouldn't experience. But in all likelihood if they move they'll move for you and that will build resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:01 AM
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Why would you purposely make life difficult for yourself by specifically seeking out a relationship with cultural differences, a likely language barrier, and families in different countries (and you're assuming someone will just up and move countries for your relationship)?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:33 AM
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How often are you getting told this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:29 AM
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You're personally involved so probably see your actions and those of people you were into that just anyone would do and that don't indicate anything in particular, which is only natural but it does obscure trends that could be seen from the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:50 PM
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I'm not trying to label them, I'm just saying certain types of holidays will attract certain types of people, as that one did. A volunteer programme is often seen as just one big unserious party, it's also more likely to attract people who aren't very stable and don't like to commit to things (no proper paid job) and who aren't in happy committed relationships (away from partner for months on end).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:42 PM
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I thought you were going to say something worse... Men and women cheat at their homes, this is common, and probably even more common among the kind of people who choose to go on party holidays. You can't exactly be calling it bad when you also participated in it and didn't own up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:20 PM
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What did you see women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:53 PM
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Any animal that doesn't do anything productive to help them and/or others survive isn't having sex and in many cases will just be left by other animals to go die or whatever. Human men don't need to be specially coddled, unsurprisingly most people don't want to date someone without any job and if you don't have one there's no point being picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:52 PM
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How would I know if a man was having sex in order to categorise them like that? It wouldn't enter my mind to do that and wouldn't even be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:57 PM
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The lady I just replaced at work dropped out to be a SAHM, a private school teacher who must've been earning at least £50k.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:02 AM
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Nobody wants to change their political views just to have sex. They either don't care that much about their partner's views and want their partner to also be chill, or want to find a partner with similar views rather than pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:33 AM
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Sounds like you don't understand the differences too well. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:03 PM
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Emasculating isn't a synonym for embarrassing. And I don't know why being dominant would mean understanding men any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:56 PM
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That's cuckolding, not emasculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:41 PM
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The problem with having an emasculation-humiliatuon kink is that being compared to a woman is seen as humiliating. Unsurprisingly, women may not agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:25 PM
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Correct, I'm monogamous so I just fuck the one penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:33 PM
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Off the top of my head, Captain Marvel, Ballerina, A Court of Thorns and Roses, basically any film from the YA dystopia craze. Women know how hurtful objectification is firsthand so they're more likely to see it as gross and less likely to do it even if they're not generally respectful people, and I was just saying being a dom doesn't mean being objectifying and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:29 PM
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You really said that to the wrong person. I'm exclusively dominant, have been as long as I've been aware of my sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:16 PM
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Not without going deaf. Ah well, we're off to Ireland tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:14 PM
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I have an interrail pass that I'm using in the summer holidays so somewhere European, I'm going to either mainly Scandinavia or the Baltics I think. And I should be going to Istanbul with my parents and husband at Halloween.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:01 PM
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It's not a domination kink for your partner to be younger, weaker or poorer. Female power fantasies are promoted in media (men tear them to pieces though). Respectful doms agree that objectification isn't cool :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:59 PM
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My in laws. It's starting to hurt :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:57 PM
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I want to join a D&D group, learn fair isle knitting, visit at least two new countries and finish my ECT programme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:55 PM
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Fellas, is it gay for a man to want to have sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:51 PM
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There isn't any aspect of a domination kink that would be acceptable to express in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:49 PM
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It's his idea and it works for him, he's not worrying over being masculine enough like many other men are. He'd probably agree it's a bit silly, but so is masculinity in general, and he doesn't mind a bit of silly!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:54 PM
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A man could certainly embody a feminine role and be a dom or any other role, emasculation doesn't require domination even if it normally involves it. Humiliation is a bit trickier but someone could find being in a dominant position humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:48 PM
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Because we'd be at least looked at weirdly if not arrested? Sorry I'm not tying anyone up in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:46 PM
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As in emasculation is his kink? Not one I share but we could probably work something out if it isn't a non-negotiable for him. I won't do humiliation at all so even if he was into it he'd need to be fine without it. As in his kink is something that people generally find emasculating? Most of my kinks probably fit into that category, so that'd be a good sign. My husband's take on the whole thing is "I'm a man so whatever I do is masculine", and I don't care about labelling things as masculine or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:43 PM
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Hardly any men have skincare routines beyond washing their face. Face shape, body type, facial hair and fashion sense tend to have a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:39 PM
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It's not some mystery: those men tend to look and/or act young for their age, and women who are closer to the age they think they are will be more likely to try to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:16 PM
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Unfortunately not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:13 AM
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Well, that's just life when you're not a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:02 AM
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When it's you that it's validating you're bound to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:48 PM
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AI will nearly always validate you no matter what you say. It's built to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:47 PM
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Good for you but I'm not American. Even just for health reasons, it's late twenties to early thirties. Socioeconomic factors and resources included, mid thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:29 PM
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Idk what you're counting as "official" but that's not the case for the NHS in 2025. Late twenties or early thirties would be optimal all things considered (well, to truly maximise health of all involved then never would be optimal).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:52 PM
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Pregnancy is actually least dangerous in late twenties and early thirties, which is probably more important than being able to conceive a tiny bit more quickly. A geriatric pregnancy is forties and up, and it's classified as such because of danger to the pregnant woman, not difficulty in becoming pregnant (not that it is difficult for under forties), which obviously doesn't matter when you're already pregnant. Teen pregnancy is dangerous now never mind thousands of years ago when the risk of dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:26 PM
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It's a gradual change until you hit at least your forties, it isn't hard at 38 unless you have the kind of circumstances that would make it hard at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:04 PM
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It's not a big difference, and the difference between 38 and 39 (assuming they're the exact same age) is even smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:54 PM
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Replace "woman" with "human" and add physical health issues. Lots of conditions can mean you can't move that much or otherwise gain weight easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:34 PM
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Are you confusing 38 with 48? It's not even hard to have biological children at 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:31 PM
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It would be to me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:49 AM
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They'd get more of my attention :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:33 AM
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In what cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:50 AM
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It's not cute to not be able to lift anything in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:01 AM
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I can't express my own personal taste now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:59 AM
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Because nobody wants to be strong and healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:48 PM
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They would look great if they had normal bodies :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:47 PM
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There aren't that many celebrities with normal bodies that wear revealing outfits or go topless publicly, so if you're asked to give an example of a non-muscular celebrity, you might have to pick one who's the least muscular but still has muscles. Obviously you could talk about non-celebrities, but the same names aren't going to come up in conversation as we all personally know different people, and of course talking about people you personally know is useless for online discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:45 PM
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You made the positive claim, so the burden of proof is on you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:35 PM
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Or maybe I could have a reason for thinking something that isn't to be found in the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:35 PM
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I didn't read it and didn't make a claim based on it. And you do keep misquoting what I actually did say. Again, I made a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:38 PM
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Read to the end of the sentence and you'll see that this is part of a comparative clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:16 PM
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My argument was pointing out you were relying on an incorrect assumption. Your response was to send an emoji.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:15 PM
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What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:05 PM
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One doesn't entail the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:04 PM
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Men aren't Sims that only have children when someone else chooses Try For Baby. They can choose to have children or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:08 PM
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Considering that most people in America are raised in two-parent households, most criminals in America coming from single-parent households is significant. Certainly it's not the fault of the parent who raised them so much as the parent who didn't raise them and the social and economic systems that likely failed them, and it's primarily their own fault in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:06 PM
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Don't you find that as you get to know people and find out they're quite nice actually they start to look better to you? Even if you're not attracted to them this happens. Even if you think they look nice already, this can go from just an acknowledgement of their looks to those looks having another meaning. If you don't notice their looks at all, you can start to notice things in a positive light. Even "flaws" can start to become cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:44 PM
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Hollywood makes lots of good films! Popular things are popular for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:20 PM
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Now that could make a real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:19 PM
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American pizza is popular globally though, more than Italian pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:54 AM
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If we're to get along, he's going to listen when I tell him not to bring this up with me again unless he's come to his senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:10 AM
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The algorithm punishes you if you just swipe on everyone. It makes it look like you're not even looking and you're in it for the ego boost of being picked if you're not a bot - which I think is what most people who swipe on everyone are doing, to be honest. If you want a partner you need to pick someone you can at least tolerate, and even from the limited information available on a dating app profile you can see that's not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:04 AM
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Masturbation usually helps to make you less stressed, which would be helpful when trying to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:01 AM
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Not really. Americans like pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:58 AM
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You will need to go out to where women are to meet them, but you're not going to meet women who want to date you every time you go out and desperation rarely leads anyone down a good path. So make sure you enjoy whatever you go out doing besides meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:54 PM
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Wanting someone with the same music taste is understandable, especially if you listen to music a lot and don't want to annoy the other person. Unfortunately I'm with a man who's into that kind of shit music but I'm a rock and metal fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:24 AM
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Lanky women often carry huge backpacks. I am lanky women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:18 AM
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I don't know anyone who's had therapy that wasn't either for grief or a mental disorder. It doesn't seem to have done them any harm. I think Americans like it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:15 AM
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We call travelling thirty minutes in a car a day trip or a commute. I couldn't even leave the county in thirty minutes (unless the sea border counts).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:21 PM
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A lot of women do that. A lot of women also travel close to home or for day/weekend trips. It'd maybe cost thousands of pounds to do it for months on end but not for a normal holiday unless it was another continent. Most people who say they like travel aren't going on luxury holidays all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:14 PM
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Thank you for sharing your kink, I would not like to hear further.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:03 PM
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You know travel can be cheap, right? Even if you like expensive travel, saying you prioritise spending money on it says a lot about you. It's okay if you don't like travelling, just don't go out with someone who does!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:00 PM
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The phrase generally brings to mind STI tests, condoms and other fun stuff I've had to teach about in PSHE. If you mean a healthy sex life, I guess it depends on the context of what your sex life is like and your relationship if you have one, but in general having a healthy sex life is making sure each person can handle their sex drive appropriately (individually or with a partner), isn't having sex they don't want/enjoy and is communicating well and having a good understanding with sex partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:58 PM
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Some appeared sceptical because I hadn't slept with any. That was a good thing. They outed themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:40 PM
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Speaking about the time I was successful. It was a warm approach. We were close friends who had known each other for several months, seeing each other almost every day in that time (until about a month before I asked him out when we were in different countries during covid, when we would message multiple times a day). Neither of us actually knew we were into the other until I asked him out, we told each other we liked this other woman (we realised later this was actually the same woman). I got d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:28 PM
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Basically, men who look and act young for their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:16 PM
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Could you describe how you feel personally about the idea of you dating a man much older than you? I bet your natural response would be similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:15 PM
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There is a difference in that stealthing changes the sex act (something enters you that you didn't consent to) while not using another contraceptive only affects what happens after. Stealthing also exposes you to STI risks you didn't consent to. Stealthing would still be a problem in cases of sex between two men, or straight sex where at least one is sterilised. Condoms can't simply be forgotten without the person taking them knowing like a birth control pill. I'm not saying what should be done …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:49 AM
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Something not being a crime in one country doesn't make it not a crime. There aren't many things that are illegal in every country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:40 AM
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The shape and size of your body, regardless of whether it gets fatter or thinner. You can't change your height, fat distribution, bone structure, etc without surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:05 PM
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The shape and size of a body? I know that both care, that was kind of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:02 PM
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No. Men also care about body type and face shape, and frequently cite these as reasons for thinking a particular woman is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:18 PM
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This relies heavily on the assumption that prostitution is identical to normal consensual sex, which is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:00 AM
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So long as you're not saying anything inappropriate (a lot of men seem to struggle with this) or the situation is obviously wildly inappropriate (say you're her boss or you're at a funeral or something), at worst it will be awkward or embarrassing. Many women just don't want to be hit on anywhere or have had a bad experience with men in a particular place, so will advise against. "Hitting on" a stranger doesn't tend to work out so well for either party as other methods of finding a date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:45 PM
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Maybe that would be exhausting, but even more exhausting is losing all your friends when you break up and having to build another social circle completely from scratch, which is why this advice exists. Your friends do have social circles by the way, you don't need loads and loads of friends to have one. Many women don't have any friends - but of course, you're not friends with them so might not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:41 PM
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In general there's a trend that people are avoiding commitment more, preferring short-term satisfaction over pursuing long-term goals, and taking fewer risks. Men see marriage as a bigger risk than before media scaremongering over the effects of divorce has increased and after the peak in divorce many have friends or family who went through divorce, which has a bigger emotional impact than the fact divorce rates are going down. They also see marriage as a bigger opportunity cost as media and tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:20 PM
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Vaginas "tent" when aroused, meaning they mould themselves to whatever's in them. With a penis in a normal size range she should feel full. And again, the right spot is two inches in. So I don't think that's quite the whole picture. A sexual thing some women enjoy would be called a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:04 AM
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It seems a bit weird to me to use a strap on if you already have a penis, but it sounds like she has a kink for it or something. The g spot is only two inches in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:55 PM
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The main reasons are it's degrading and it's dangerous. Sex and naked bodies can be a wonderful thing, in the right context, but someone paying me to have control over that takes all the wonder and beauty out of it. The only reason anyone ever gets paid for anything sexual is because they wouldn't do it otherwise. This is also the reason why men don't do it even though men with accounts make more. Not to even get into the misogyny of it all. Most people with any kind of online presence in the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:49 PM
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JAMIARY Q&A one night only (drunk)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:06 PM
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Men don't cater to women. They consider that beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:43 PM
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Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:34 PM
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If you think someone is going to divorce you for a "stupid reason" then don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:03 AM
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I don't get into it either way. I'm not going to get into a fight with my male or female friends over their relationship and I don't tend to know about their relationship issues as I don't tend to ask, I also don't know most of their partners very well. If someone vents to me I just let them vent. Nobody has to my knowledge shown themselves to be toxic but I'm not very involved so I don't know. If I told them off especially over things they might not have done it would probably just start an arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:30 AM
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If you take a paternity test, you are trusting the test to reliably tell you the truth. (They fail sometimes.) If you don't, you're trusting your partner to reliably tell you the truth. (They fail sometimes.) There's always trust involved somewhere. If you're having a child with someone, it says a lot about you if you don't think they can be trusted to tell you the truth. Even if the test comes back negative, you'll still be skeptical right, because it isn't proof they didn't cheat or aren't che…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:06 AM
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Have you not seen the statistics that have been making the rounds? The least attractive hobby in men is "manosphere" and gaming isn't even in the bottom fifteen. I don't get upset at gaming, it's my husband's main hobby and we often play together. The problem is that many people get addicted and will game for hours on end to the point it's harming their life (no it isn't healthy to game for so long you can never get to bed on time).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:42 AM
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It certainly helps with stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:30 AM
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It's a metaethical view that says that ethics are things that we approve or disapprove of. You would still need a normative view that describes what you approve or disapprove of. It doesn't negate any normative views on right and wrong. Basically everyone accepts that moral right and wrong exists, even if purely in terms of approving and disapproving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:36 PM
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That doesn't mean that moral statements are meaningless, it means they're expressions that aren't truth-apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:24 PM
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What ethical view do you hold where lying isn't wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:08 PM
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You haven't read any romance novels have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:07 PM
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Okay so it's eighteen in your country. Most men who are eighteen have had sex. One year difference but what you said is clearly very wrong. I didn't say any of those things, maybe care about what I actually said rather than assigning me an "ilk" and saying I have random opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:29 PM
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No I have not watched porn and I never will. Nobody needs to but some people (mainly men/boys) fall for marketing and think they do. We know it impacts everyone even if they don't feel it does. I'd recommend nobody to "control" their partner into stopping porn when they don't want to. Just leave. That's what a boundary is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:13 PM
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No. I highly recommend it. We know it's way less harmful. Indeed, masturbation has health benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:05 PM
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Do you think this is a normal male experience and specific to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:04 PM
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That doesn't mean most have never been in a relationship before reaching the end of that age group. What it means is that mostly men on the younger end are mostly experiencing gaps. Most are not virgins, most boys who are seventeen aren't virgins. What an absolute failure of trying to understand statistics. How have I beaten you when you were down or blamed you for anything exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:00 PM
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Most books are pretty complimentary about men, they portray men as more sympathetic than most media aimed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:58 PM
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I'm concerned with what this person considers normal because they claim it's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:47 PM
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That's neither normal nor some horrendous fate. Idk who you think "women like me" are or what "suffering" we enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:45 PM
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It's not lying to not act the exact same from birth to death. People change and grow, that's no lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:44 PM
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It's trolling to directly respond to a claim in a comment? What isn't trolling at that rate, apart from accusing people of trolling apparently?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:43 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:41 PM
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What's so horrible about being normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:13 AM
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You can have a personality that will get you friends but isn't usually as desirable in relationships - for example, a relentless jokester type. People are also generally more comfortable approaching others for friendship than sex or romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:51 AM
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Yes. It's less bad because at least there aren't actors harmed but it still spreads terrible ideas about sex and is psychologically harmful. Porn doesn't just harm actors but also watchers and those watchers interact with. If you can generate porn on demand I don't see anything stopping a large amount from being extremely violent or paedophilic as has been a problem with drawn porn already. People could also make porn of people they know which could be used to harrass them or at the very least c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:21 AM
1

Even if you think that about jobs, it doesn't apply to people who often require little to no sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:12 AM
2

That's not telling a lie, that's just actually developing confident behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
0

It's not guilt because it's not bad or wrong and people could be uncomfortable with revealing their sexual history no matter what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:09 AM
2

Okay and just because something happens every day doesn't make it okay. It's at the very least coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:56 PM
1

It isn't. If you don't want to say the moral thing to do is say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:51 PM
4

It's not hypocrisy to judge everyone including me for something!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:42 PM
1

He didn't say honesty was important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:48 PM
1

So is honesty important?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:48 PM
1

Well it's not physical, but it can be taken. Why would that matter anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:15 PM
-4

Lying directly harms people. That's why it's wrong. If you want to not disclose in a way that isn't wrong, just don't say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:14 PM
0

Something of value...like the truth? Why would that make it different anyway? Is it not still wrong to do a bad thing even if you gain from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:51 PM
1

It's self destructive to lie. Lying is wrong. Lying is repellent. Not having had sex yet isn't wrong or bad and that's shame that can be worked on. If you think you've only had sex due to lying and mistreating someone else you will only be more ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:51 PM
2

Nobody has to. I didn't lie and got no men. World kept spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:46 PM
3

But I judge myself for lying. I've never even told that kind of lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:46 PM
0

I'm using it to mean the same thing because obviously not being a virgin is the same as having sex one time. I'm not sure why you seem think it's any better to lie for sex if you've never had it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 PM
1

I didn't tell lies to try to get men. That would be wrong. I don't think most men lie to try to get women either, because it is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:42 PM
5

Of course I have. That was wrong and I shouldn't have done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 PM
2

If you mean he should've agreed with you, well, he didn't. That wasn't the point he made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 PM
-1

So you are saying men care more about having sex than being a good person and treating people decently. They don't even feel as ashamed about it apparently. Wow. That's horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:38 PM
3

The person I just replied to literally in his comment said honesty wasn't important. You are saying something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:37 PM
-10

That doesn't actually apply to sex or jobs. Many jobs will take someone without experience and many people don't mind if you've had sex before or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:34 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:33 PM
1

Some women lie so you should lie to different women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:33 PM
0

Don't they feel ashamed of lying? Are you so misandrist you don't think men value, you know, being a good person over having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:32 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:08 PM
0

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:06 PM
0

You said "they mean". I assume I was the "they", not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:46 PM
0

And the ideal of perfection is a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:45 PM
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If lying gets you what you want then lying isn't wrong? By that logic should we steal too, as it gets us the money we want? Edit: well that struck a nerve. I guess we all don't have a conscience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:09 PM
1

If the most successful you can be is being one year old I think your definition of success is meaningless. Generally it involves doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:07 PM
0

Good for those people. I take issue when you're speaking for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:06 PM
2

People who have sex with each other are about to care about each other, at the very least about their basic boundaries and peace of mind. What kind of caring wife would be comfortable with her husband "relenting" into having sex? How could she enjoy the intimacy of having partnered sex with someone who doesn't want to be there? How is it too high a standard to suggest that people who have sex give a single fuck about each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:03 PM
-31

Okay cool now tell me why honesty isn't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:59 PM
0

Lying is wrong. Are you going to tell the truth thereafter that you think you only had sex with your first sexual partner because you lied to them? Do you really want to have sex that you believe hinges on a lie? What's even the point of having sex with someone if you're not even comfortable being honest with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:58 PM
0

I don't think you get how skill checks work. It's a dice roll with modifiers. It's not your fault for rolling badly. There's an element of luck but if you're more or less suited to that skill/person it can be more or less likely. Ironically that's actually quite a lot like dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:45 PM
0

You said it was what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:41 PM
1

A blank slate is the opposite of successful, instead you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:41 PM
-1

And social self-improvement is often your best bet at improving these chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 AM
-1

You're not going to improve very much by staying at home. One of the most effective things you can do to improve yourself as a dating prospect as well as your life and mental health in general is to go outside and socialise more. Which would also lead to better chances of meeting someone organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:17 AM
7

I would not sleep with anyone after only "one conversation at a party".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 AM
0

I don't feel obligated to pay back as a man has never paid for me on a date. It doesn't have to be a "sexual favour", many different things could be expected. I don't "whore myself out for a dinner date", as I said I'm not comfortable accepting other people's money so I pay for my own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:42 AM
-1

It depends, hence the word something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:40 AM
1

Neither of those were things I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:39 AM
2

Well, it depends. Hence the word something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:49 PM
4

Something will be expected in return. In any case I am not comfortable with it and will never be. Good for your friends, I hope it keeps seeming that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:47 PM
3

Well I wasn't brought up to accept strangers buying things for me. It's never really free anyway. If you don't care or feel anything for the other person as a person you can get the same physical feeling way more easily and safely by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:42 PM
36

I don't get the point of sleeping with someone I feel nothing for. I might as well just masturbate at home. I don't need validation from other people so casual sex doesn't appeal to me. It's a different thing but with no emotion or connection there's no point in having a partner there at all. Casual sex just leaves both parties worse off usually even if in the moment they say it's "fun". I don't want strangers to buy things for me and make me feel like I owe them something. I don't care if other…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 09:30 PM
1

Well I wasn't talking about America or the practicalities of proving it in court. Only rarely would sexual assault be considered proven anyway. Even a sexual assault that nobody ever speaks about is still sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:49 PM
1

I'm sure I'm not identical to you Mr KamuiObito. But I know my sex drive is a lot higher than once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:22 PM
-1

That was a lot of words to say you can't give a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:36 PM
-1

So you're going to produce a reason why it wouldn't be applicable more broadly then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:04 PM
9

Because "modern women" have access to contraception and therefore a choice. Having children is often not a pleasant experience especially if you are giving birth to them and facing the permanent physical and mental implications of that. You might find raising children a fun idea but not everyone does and those who feel they have something better to do aren't trapped but can just say no. It's nowhere near half though, 80% of women say they want children. If it was half you'd need every woman who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:54 PM
0

I wish that was true but unfortunately it happens in all countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:50 PM
0

Are Americans all gig workers or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:49 PM
-1

Yeah they're only thinking about adults but by this logic small children are even more valuable, unless they're excluded from this ranking system for...please give a reason if you believe this. Very often theories are disproven by showing they have unwanted implications beyond the simple case the theorist was thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:44 PM
1

So you can't take legal action for having your employment wrongfully terminated? I mean I don't know where you live but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:42 PM
6

I think they see it as a special exception to consent. Nobody would say that if you were coerced like this to give money it wasn't theft. But sex? If it happens then it's consensual I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:39 PM
10

Then those people need to go to their union. Just because something shouldn't happen or is illegal doesn't mean it never happens. The rest of what you said is entirely off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:10 AM
1

If you seriously think women would collectively refuse to date men over a £10 bowl of pasta that is apparently essential to be attracted to any man ever I have nothing further to say to you because that would make you delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:37 AM
6

Actually I can't. If I want to quit there are certain dates I must hand in my notice by so I can quit the next term. Most jobs have notice periods. You will also need to give a reason for firing past probation. Firing people for certain reasons such as on the basis of protected characteristics is illegal and if you believe that has happened you can take it to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:35 AM
10

I don't live in "the US or most western jurisdictions". All I said about prostitution was I think it should be illegal and I'm not going into it further because it's besides the point here. You don't have a right to be hired but you do have a right to not be unjustly fired. People lose their money all the time but we still think stealing isn't okay because it's an unjust way of losing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:23 AM
2

It is concrete. There is a concrete list of rights it gives you and your partner. It's much harder to break than an informal agreement like free use. There are no guarantees in life but that doesn't mean nothing can have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:21 AM
1

My libido is a lot more than you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:18 AM
1

And if men didn't themselves collectively decide to pay, by themselves not mind controlled, this wouldn't be a thing. This is the consequence of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:02 AM
22

Whether you agree or disagree it's against the Equality Act. Certain jobs can have requirements or quotas at point of entry but after being hired they can't fire people or treat them any differently (besides reasonable adjustments) on the basis of a protected characteristic. Consent is defined legally although for the record I think it's also immoral. Stealthing is illegal. I think that prostitution should be and I'm not sure why you're acting that that would be a shocking thought. You don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:46 AM
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There are legitimate reasons and illegitimate reasons for firing someone. You can fire someone because they're shit at their job, but firing someone because they're gay is illegal as it infringes on their rights (in this case to equal treatment due to sexual orientation). Firing someone based on them not wanting to perform sexual acts on you is infringing on their right to sexual self-determination and is usually sex-based discrimination as well. Performing sexual acts on a specific person that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:22 AM
-1

They're valued so much that baby girls are left out to die because their parents wanted a son.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:14 AM
7

If you're measuring personal value by how much sympathy you get if something terrible happens to you, then the most valuable, and therefore successful apparently, people in the world are babies and small children who haven't done shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:12 AM
1

I'm not American. Are there countries where women mind control men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:08 AM
2

What do you not consider meaningful about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:07 AM
-1

If men all chose not to pay they wouldn't have this "problem". But they choose to and that's on them. Women aren't mind controlling them into doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:26 PM
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I'm 22 and married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:32 PM
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It might've been enjoyable. Doesn't mean it's healthy or even that anyone else would enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:26 PM
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Just because you want something doesn't mean every way you can get that thing is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:09 PM
8

There are some truly lovely, wonderful men who have changed my life for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:47 PM
4

What's the difference, other than people consenting to free use?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:45 PM
1

Partnered sex is not a need. And it can still be unhealthy. Food is a need but you can still pick unhealthy food.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:45 PM
0

And who are you to declare it's healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:22 PM
7

You'd only read that as sex if you were a fourteen-year-old with a dirty of mind. My husband does not have a duty to "unconditionally accept" me going inside him at all times no matter what. That is a gross misreading of marriage, it isn't a free use kink. You accept them as your life partner not your sex toy. Accepting them means not fucking raping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:20 PM
1

Just because you found it easy to get doesn't mean it's healthy. There's a difference between easy and good. If you want a relationship then go for a relationship rather than fucking about not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:18 PM
1

If you really thought this the solution should surely be to suck it up. Idk about you but I'd far rather have sex once a week (how terrible) than abuse anyone. Unless, I guess, you already wanted to abuse people anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:55 PM
6

It...literally is a job. It can be rewarding and fun and all kinds of things but at the end of the day people do get paid to be childminders (and it costs a lot). It's exhausting and most of it is far from glamorous and if you're a parent of that child you do. Not. Get. Any. Breaks. Even the things I love doing most would drive me to tears if I had to do them always and they kept pooing themselves. You'd see more men doing it if it imposed no burdens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:50 PM
10

Which vow is this? I think I must've skipped the part of the vows that said "I'm entitled to rape my husband and must let him rape me". I'm pretty sure we promised to care for and about each other? What kind of marriage do you have if not forcing yourself to be violated to cater to your partner's whims is considered some horrible transgression?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:45 PM
0

Healthy sex is not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:40 PM
5

Compared to relationship sex? I don't think many would agree there but you do you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:40 PM
1

I've never heard of anyone who did that who didn't either cheat, get cheated on, get made to (e.g. for a medical exam) or get exposed to another transmission method (e.g. blood transfusions).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:39 PM
5

There are lots of other reasons for an adult to have money but if that was the only reason that would also show a lack of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:36 PM
1

"Friends" with benefits are prone to end badly at the best of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:35 PM
0

If you thought it was healthy you wouldn't have used the word "using"...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:34 PM
1

You're the person embarrassing yourself here. I'm not making "CMV ExcelsiorState718 can't defend his point". If you could reply you would've just replied, doesn't matter whether it's a post or comment, but I know you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:30 PM
-2

I didn't say they couldn't be swayed or influenced or convinced but that's their decision. They could be swayed by anything. Still their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:27 PM
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Poor men, if only they could control their own actions! But we all know any tiny influence means they can't possibly!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:12 AM
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She can only jump multiple levels if most men love it and find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:40 AM
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They're not attracted to themselves or constantly looking at themselves to decide how to treat themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:39 AM
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I think seeing "preferring" younger women is a default and paedophilia are pretty comorbid. The preference range is always given as 18-whatever age and I don't imagine many just so happen to only find a woman attractive at the exact moment of her eighteenth birthday.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 AM
9

But of course it's about a lack of trust, if you trusted them you wouldn't get a medical test to prove they aren't lying. Your "stories" might be a reason to mistrust your partner, they might be a justification, but they don't mean you trust them actually. No babies are coming out of me, I don't have a horse on this race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:24 AM
3

It's not "hijacking" to defend your own point. You can just admit you can't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:21 AM
1

Men are quite literally in control of whether they gift meals to other people. They won't end up paying on any date unless they offer. If every man decided to only pay for himself on a date the world would keep turning and nobody would be too sad and I guess some men would be £10 richer. Men are the people deciding paying on dates is something they should do (and they get really pushy about it). Yet this is women's fault somehow because everything must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:16 AM
6

You can't answer. So why should anyone answer you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:41 AM
0

Age gap relationships tend to be unhealthy and end in tears. If people your own age aren't "working out", someone much older has even less of a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:39 AM
4

So you can't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:38 AM
6

Would you like your partner, suspecting you of cheating and worried about their health, to get a secret STD test or tell you about it? I think it's better to tell so you can both work to fix that very broken relationship (unless it's a case of actual ambiguity, for example if you were both openly sleeping around at the time of conception, in which case why not tell).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:36 AM
0

Blaming women for being manipulated and lied to (they're picking the wrong people or have the wrong nebulous "vibe"), what a classic. How you treat others is very much your own responsibility, not theirs. Men rarely complain about being used for sex because it's rare that they do get lied to just because another person wants only casual sex from them and doesn't otherwise care about them, instead looking down on them and thinking they're beneath them or have a "weird vibe".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:32 AM
5

What else are men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:29 AM
11

It is supposed to be but often isn't, especially if the other person lies to you or doesn't particularly care about you. Casual doesn't mean bad but usually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:28 AM
2

You mean the trend of not having any in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:11 PM
3

Very few men are choosing to no longer be in any relationships after having some. Do you think all relationships are damaging? Why would they want to be damaged further?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:57 PM
10

If they were happiest single they'd end their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:43 PM
1

Ha ha ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:41 PM
-1

Well that wasn't clear. Anyway, if you think they'll reject you based on it surely you wouldn't want them to ever find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:03 AM
-1

It sounds exhausting to hide that for a whole relationship. You'd just spend it worried your partner doesn't like the real you when it's very likely they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:35 AM
2

It could be argued that sexual release is a need but partnered sex is certainly a luxury. You don't need it, you might enjoy it but you'll be fine without it. People who are desperate for a need like food or clothes will take anything but if they can't find a sex partner they find attractive or who will do the exact acts they like with them they just won't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:26 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:22 AM
0

So they just voice them all completely logically and calmly to everyone do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:21 AM
2

That's not a fake story, that's what you told me about your friends yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:06 PM
2

Men or women can lie or spread rumours, but most don't. Seems like you've picked friends who run in those circles and like telling silly lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:52 PM
1

She's not a woman she's not even real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:07 PM
2

That "negative energy" is actually confronting the problem. You have chosen not to. Do you always tell everyone logically why you're angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:50 PM
1

Is that what you do when someone upsets you, confront them after they've ran away and say they've done nothing wrong there? She even did call you and you complained about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:39 PM
2

You never even asked for an explanation. You don't know what could've changed that night. You can't read thoughts so why not ask! It was your decision not to ask and to run away instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:32 PM
1

This woman isn't in my group, she doesn't even exist! I don't want anyone to lie, don't want money, don't care about people being settled for and don't have a "kind".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:27 PM
2

How do you know there isn't a logical explanation? You didn't even ask. Staying in the house and finding out what's wrong would be the bare minimum of helping but you didn't do that so I don't think you'd "do anything" to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:26 PM
2

What do you mean? It's false if they say it's false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:54 PM
-2

If you're visibly upset do you need to go around telling other people why? Especially if they did something to hurt you and you assume they know why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:49 PM
2

The statistics are the results of the surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:48 PM
4

Statistical evidence. How have you managed to see so many "false" accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:47 PM
0

Well that sounds toxic. If you don't want to ask or talk about it the assumption would be that you know rather than wanting to just ignore someone who's angry at you and not even caring why they feel that way. How would you like it if you were visibly upset and your partner didn't care why and instead left the house and ignored you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:41 PM
4

You may feel that. Any reason to think it that isn't your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:37 PM
1

Please look at the actual topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:36 PM
3

We do, way more people in anonymous surveys have admitted to rape than false accusations of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:36 PM
0

You're talking about a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:08 PM
-1

I'm sure you feel otherwise but statistical evidence is on my side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:08 PM
-4

That doesn't play out statistically at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:07 PM
0

No, as on the balance of probabilities someone who says they were raped is very likely telling the truth, and someone who says they were falsely accused is very likely lying. If a woman says she was falsely accused of rape a man should run.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:26 PM
4

I'm sure you feel that way but all evidence we have says that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:23 PM
1

No, that's not what they asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:22 PM
6

Thanks for the anecdote about a different thing. Sounds like you need better friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:41 PM
3

Because they wanted to know something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:32 AM
1

Liking someone so much you want to be with them always.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:15 AM
1

So the woman you're talking about isn't real. You have imagined her. She could exist but you don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:15 AM
6

False accusations are rare. They are a stranger I have no reason to trust. Oh would you look at that, I appear to have just had a family emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:12 AM
6

It doesn't matter if he's other women's type, he could still be very much yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:06 AM
2

He's absolutely stunning. I often just stare at him naked. I didn't notice how he looked until I knew him though (I never do), so I know my feelings about him can colour my judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:05 AM
1

So this really happened to your girlfriend then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:39 PM
-3

By not making up situations in their head to get angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:34 PM
2

I know you feel women you don't agree with are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:32 PM
1

If you have to do it again I'd recommend Skyn, most people actually prefer them to latex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:31 PM
3

You're looking at this from a male perspective. Women don't usually get to "pick" the same way, they are picked and get to say yes or no to that one person in the moment, so the question is whether he personally is good enough rather than is he the best out of all the options. And you know, different strokes for different folks. Not everyone has the same taste as you and your sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:29 PM
0

Takes ten seconds. If that's too much effort idk how you could be bothered to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:22 PM
3

Nope! But I notice people, especially men, do have a habit of saying women they disagree with are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:19 PM
1

You're not supposed to get an implant if you haven't taken well to any pills, unless your issue was remembering to take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:17 PM
1

You could avoid that permanent thing with methods that don't harm any bodies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:16 PM
1

Because they hurt a lot and keep hurting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:15 PM
0

And other people think monogamy includes not liking pictures on Instagram apparently. What does it matter if people choose to gender it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:09 PM
2

How do you even think what you said is linked then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:08 PM
0

Did you mean to reply to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:20 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:19 PM
-2

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:44 PM
8

If you have sex with a same-sex friend it would be considered cheating in most relationships. Therefore same-sex friendships are impossible. See how this sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 04:34 PM
1

(I am a breadwinner.) Surely you want your partner to have the same standard of living rather than hoarding the money? Your partner isn't a roommate, you're a team and usually one person's earnings rely on the other's support and the money ends up as both of your money. If you see them as a parasite rather than wanting to help each other I don't think a live-in relationship is for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:33 AM
9

Alone because I don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:02 PM
4

Idc about submissive or feminine but I think doing a nice thoughtful thing is ruined by doing it because you were asked. It isn't really nice or thoughtful in that case, just an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:59 PM
1

In response to being hurt. Not just not doing something you might enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:30 PM
1

No it isn't. Just because someone doesn't like something doesn't make it trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:15 PM
2

Personally if I've wanted someone to talk to me I've just gone and done it. If I didn't talk to them then I didn't want a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:25 PM
3

It is not trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:23 PM
2

She probably just said that to stop people getting in her business. Most would say it ruined their life but good for your friend if she's genuinely okay. I didn't say anything about any mental illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:48 PM
5

I mean I've never been in that situation but even if I liked them it sounds very awkward. Maybe save the poems and declarations of love for someone who's actually indicated they like you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:42 PM
3

Don't tell me you seriously think not having sex yet is traumatic like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:36 PM
5

What is it with red/black pillers and trying to make their "struggles" be taken more seriously by comparing then to rape? No they are not equivalent and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:54 AM
2

It's often not just one time, you're most likely to be raped by someone you know and if they did it once they're likely to do it again. And it will haunt you every day for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:51 AM
7

You mean it seems like they "just go on" to you...it's a traumatic experience that destroys your life not like just not having sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:49 AM
1

It is mandatory and they can't opt out. You can opt out of some aspects of sex ed only (often in a different lesson to the PSHE side).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:45 AM
-2

The blue pill is not any specific belief. All it means is you disagree with the red pill. You can disagree in various different ways and only need to agree with other blue pillers that the red pill is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:43 AM
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Are they trying to dress identical to the children or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:36 PM
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What kind of school is she working in where jeans are okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:33 PM
1

I'm not teaching red pill "seduction" bullshit to fifteen-year-olds. I'd rightfully end up put on a list and rightfully they wouldn't listen to me. It's not "worsening dudes' prospects" to teach them to teach other people's consent, unless you think rape is a good "prospect".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:31 PM
-1

Idk about you but I'd be missed if I found my partner was secretly stowing away family money for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:31 PM
2

I have never heard of anyone masturbating while reading the book 50 Shades of Grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:07 PM
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Then what do you call it when every single man this man encounters supports rape? Is that a no-rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:05 PM
2

Good for him. Is he most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:04 PM
3

People generally masturbate to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:03 PM
4

It's not sexual desire. It's reading a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:00 PM
2

You can also have a crush on a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:00 PM
2

A crush isn't necessarily "someone from afar".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:43 PM
1

A good friend of mine from guides and church. I knew it was a crush because I thought about her all the time and wanted to kiss her a whole lot. I wanted to ask her out but I didn't, I just pined a lot. I told a couple of my closest friends that I had a crush but no other details. I was thirteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:42 PM
13

People don't read about what they want, they read about what's exciting. Books about happy healthy relationships with cute men/women where nothing bad happens are super boring. I love The Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:22 PM
-1

Don't hide it, just make sure he can't access it (it's probably best to leave it with other trusted people so he can never lay claim to it). You shouldn't be lying about taking things from joint funds. And he should actively support your safety net from the very start of the relationship if he doesn't want you to be potentially trapped (which could also happen due to illness and such). Single men willing to take you and your children in in an emergency because...well I guess the implication is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:08 PM
1

Your spouse is not a car. If I bought a shitty car and it breaks down I guess I have to pay for repairs or a new car. Okay it's not ideal but my life won't be ruined. If I married a shitty husband that'd change my life forever, either through living in resentment and abuse forever or going through copious heartbreak and divorce. People aren't things, they're much more important to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:02 PM
2

It is. I started it in PSHE with my form class this week. All schools must have it (all state schools anyway) and they're not allowed to opt out. The focus is on consent and healthy relationships and combating prejudice and stereotypes. We don't teach red pill "improvement" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:54 PM
1

She can, if she's really lucky, doesn't mean she will or that he'll be all that into her. There are more men into mentally ill women with a string of "crazy" exes than masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:49 PM
6

What's most disturbing is that he approached more men than that and not a single one reported it. This is why we talk about a rape culture. These men knew there would be no consequences because fellow men made sure nothing was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:51 AM
6

I'm not sure why you're drawing that line between objectification and non-objectification when porn actually meets your criteria for objectification. Porn routinely shows both real and fictional instances of non-consent and sexual assault, and you have no way of knowing if all parties actually consented. It routinely shows depictions of people becoming uncomfortable and their boundaries being ignored, and porn actors are routinely made to act in scenes they feel uncomfortable with. Porn routinel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:39 AM
1

I wouldn't say most English people react well to American "friendliness" and I've never lived in London.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:50 PM
1

Me neither but I was there with my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:59 PM
1

English people are most of Britain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:55 PM
0

When I was in America a month ago the only people on the street seemed to be drug addicts and I kept nearly getting run over. I didn't see a single bus so not sure on the public transport front.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:51 PM
1

So you like different feminine clothing options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:36 PM
1

I don't mean feminine with a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:21 PM
1

Well that's not very useful is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:18 PM
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I guess those women didn't feel as intimate or connected as you. It happens, for men or women, especially if you've only met two or three times, meaning investment and sentimentality are low and your reading of them is likely to be off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:59 PM
1

So until all my peers are dead I should just assume they'll break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:57 PM
-1

Porn is about watching that woman yet It's about watching and getting off to her as a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:41 AM
0

You're focusing on everyone who breaks up, but I see everyone who stays together and I think I'm more like them. Divorce doesn't happen just at random even though it might look like that from an outside perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:09 AM
1

I think both are issues. No watching men as the focus of degradation rather than women would not help. There is no ethical treatment in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:19 AM
-1

Are they personified? Treated nicely? Presented as anything other than an object for the viewer to touch his dick to, existing purely for his pleasure? Are their desires ever paid any attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:18 AM
1

Idk what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:16 AM
6

To a scene that most certainly doesn't include "most men".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:22 PM
22

Present as masculine. No matter what she's like, that would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:07 PM
-2

Even porn where women are portrayed as dominant is objectifying and degrading to women. It's just a costume but we know who's really in control both through the screen and on set. Of course it also degrades male actors but in straight porn they're not really the focus and don't tend to get abused as much in the industry as far as we can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:06 PM
2

It's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:19 PM
2

Sharing is bottom of the barrel. You'd need truly low standards to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:25 PM
2

Okay poor men how terrible etc etc. Whether one hundred women are raped by one man or one hundred different men, that's still one hundred rapes, the same harm. People taken seriously after not just supporting but performing sexual assault include many countries' presidents and members of the royal family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:03 PM
1

Because...Deadpool?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:21 PM
2

What harm? Hurting their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:18 PM
3

And nobody supports blaming all men. But you can't trust any man if you don't know which men. Blanket distrust then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:18 PM
1

There. Are. Bystanders. They may not be physically standing by. But. If they just let it happen. Don't do anything. Don't support speaking up. They. Are. Bystanders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:17 PM
2

Apart from a tiny polyamorous minority, nobody is okay with sharing a partner. That's why cheating is frowned upon and harwms only exist under oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:06 PM
-5

If you refuse to call people out you're saying you'll always be a bystander, before, during or after the fact. You are helping them cover up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:24 AM
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I think everyone owes each other more than that. It's not good enough to be a bystander while others do harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:10 AM
1

It's the criminal/celebrity factor. Did you really come onto a month-old post to give your opinion on a woman's looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:24 AM
-3

Okay so when women believe in locker room talk given this kind of evidence you believe them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:23 AM
-4

So you have a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:20 AM
10

Me too is about speaking up about rape and sexual assault. It's about telling the truth. Would you rather have nobody talk about it and keep these people protected? What would an ordinary non-criminal gain from crimes remaining hidden?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:20 AM
5

It doesn't matter how many different sexual assaulters there are if they affect most lives and you have no way of telling who they are. You'd think other men should support rooting them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:16 AM
1

No. Happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:16 PM
-1

Still avoiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:34 PM
-1

Avoiding the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:29 PM
0

And how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:23 PM
0

Just because you haven't found a date yet doesn't mean you must become a hateful misogynist. Most who do could do something less dramatic like go out and socialise, or simply decide not to hate women due to not personally dating them right now this second, but that's too hard I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:22 PM
0

Not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:20 PM
5

Yet you're saying all the women who heard men discuss it are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
1

Depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
5

And how do you "know" how women talk to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:29 PM
1

Depends on which sports. Sports that are advantageous to men tend to dominate but women tend to be better at some such as dancing, shooting and long-distance swimming even if they're not as good at American football. They also have greater lower body strength. There are no proven differences in wjo is better at cooking, cleaning or getting degrees, indeed it would be incredibly difficult to find a measure for who's better at those. Men can presumably be just as good at these things that are actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:27 PM
2

Well that might be true for your hyperspecific area but I somehow doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:02 PM
3

There certainly are people who like casual sex but I don't think there are many places where absolutely everyone has it always.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:01 PM
4

I would never "make" anyone wait, but if they don't want to then I'm leaving because I'm not comfortable havinf sex early and don't want someone who thinks sex is so central to our interaction they're being "made" to wait. I was raised Ulster Scots Presbyterian in Northern Ireland and I now am an atheist who lives in England (but still, you know, the same ethnicity and culture). I don't know how you've never heard of waiting; maybe you wouldn't wait for months like me, but do people in your coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:02 PM
0

Well he probably wants a woman above his level, so would need to get to that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:04 AM
-2

Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:07 AM
-3

I can't give advice that works for every single person in every single situation. For an individual, however, I could give it a go. And I'm not a parent so don't care about being bad at it, although as someone who works with children I think babying them less and actually letting them figure some things out would go a long way at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:29 PM
-3

There's no universal cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:33 PM
0

Depends on how and why he feels he's struggling and whether he even asked. The situation is too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:15 PM
3

It's normal and healthy for a couple to have different interests. In order to be compatible with someone you don't need to be exactly the same as them, indeed mist of us would probably be very incompatible with such a person. It's very unlikely you'll have absolutely nothing in common so you can do and talk about the things you're both interested in (even if it's things that aren't "exciting" like playing games or watching TV).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:32 PM
-1

Women do the vast majority of domestic work in relationships to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:28 PM
1

I'll bear that in mind if I feel like being a con artist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:34 PM
0

Those boundaries and standards often entail being alone. Most would pay the price of doing extra chores to have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:14 PM
-2

Do you not like being able to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:38 PM
-2

And they mysteriously forget when entering a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:37 PM
-1

You might have been thinking it but that's in no way clear, and you can just leave off the childcare and have plenty of pampering remain for men. But oh no, they might occasionally open a door! Poor men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:35 PM
1

Well I could lie to people for no gain but oddly enough I've never considered it as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:32 PM
6

In a relationship like this the man would generally be pampered by having food made for him, chores done for him, children looked after for him, etc, even if he has to brush his own hair. This isn't usually mentioned specifically because it's such a widely accepted expectation for women in relationships that it goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:55 AM
0

Most of my friends use them or have used them. Oddly enough I can't match with straight women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:47 AM
8

They can't be counted in statistics if they don't say they were assaulted. Statisticians can't mind read. I'm sure there are more male and female victims than statistics say but they can't be counted if they say no to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:56 AM
-5

I didn't use dating apps as people only really use them for hookups. Even if that wasn't the case I'd be wasting time going on dates with people I don't know and need time to figure out if I'm attracted. Asking out men in real life, only one said yes, but I'm very grateful for the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:47 AM
1

That is nice but it often doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:32 AM
-1

Have you ever looked up "what's on in [your city]"? I think you'd be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:27 AM
4

You can't objectify yourself. Whether you're objectified or not is a function of how other people view you (as an object). Looking nice or looking bad doesn't change whether you're viewed only as a sex object, only whether you're viewed as a good sex object or a failed sex object and if those are the only options most people would choose the better treatment that comes with being a good sex object. In some places women having their tits out is not considered sexual, in most places men having the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:18 AM
2

It depends on how high your standards are for "good" in each case. We generally have lower standards for jobs than partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:07 AM
2

I can't because I don't find men I know to be toxic or misogynist attractive. I avoid it if I know about it. Unfortunately we don't always know about it and many people hide their personalities and some women are easily fooled, or don't care because they're toxic or misogynist themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:04 AM
4

I had to look him up and he's pretty cute. A striking facial feature is usually not a good thing and muscles are more appreciated by other men than women. Maybe just not your type. (And the penis theory is bizarre. Even if it was desirable, millions of men have a large penis.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:58 AM
1

Being expected to emotionally support others more than you're emotionally supported is a mental burden. You end up having to worry about too many people and things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:08 AM
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I inherited it and don't really care but it most likely is due to being an engagement ring. My own engagement ring is sapphire and moissanite so it's not a thing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:43 PM
2

I think they do sometimes but much less than they do with other men. They often expect women to be more understanding or empathetic, it's usually subconscious though. They don't realise the burden that brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:00 PM
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I like to read books that are exciting and dramatic. Needless to say I don't want to participate in the Hunger Games. A book of my life would probably be really boring to an outside observer, and that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:57 PM
3

Not gonna lie that does not sound like fun at all. It's not a "lifestyle" most people would benefit from living and it involves treating yourself and others in ways that are cruel and hurtful. I don't think "fun" in itself makes something worthwhile but it's not even fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:55 PM
1

Plenty, like three, seeing as you don't make that much and you will get raped, likely hurt in other ways too and murder is not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:20 PM
-5

I don't think anyone has managed to isolate the direction of causality on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:19 PM
2

Depends on the woman. Most will want to spend a lot of time around their crush, although some will be too shy or play hard to get. She won't generally want to show it when in a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:17 PM
-4

Or it may be the case that if we like people more we think they look nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:54 PM
3

What do you mean by alpha male? It has many different possible meanings ranging from "man who a woman has a crush on" to "man who calls himself alpha because he spent too much time on the internet".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:34 PM
1

Oh so you're talking about something that only exists in fantasy then. If prostitutes are able to say no, they leave prostitution. Sex is not payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:29 PM
1

It's a nice dream but she can't always say no. Sex isn't payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:15 AM
5

It's not about not everyone like it. Even if people do like it in the moment it generally has consequences later that they don't like. I don't think it is worth it to "try" something that's bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:10 AM
6

I'm also not sure why they'd lie in an anonymous study yet be perfectly honest talking to OP because he's that special or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:23 AM
3

Other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:21 AM
2

Not another episode of "who cares about research, my distinctly unscientific method of talking to people in my super specific friend group who are for some reason always completely open and honest is better". The red pill does seem to thrive on personal anecdotes that sound largely made up but resonate with those men's feelings so they don't question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:19 AM
4

Just because you think something is fun doesn't mean you or anyone else should do it, but rather that you want to do it. Eating lots of chocolate is fun but you'd probably rather not suffer the consequences and get diabetes. Similarly having casual sex can be fun in the moment but often leads to people feeling lonely and empty; compromising their physical and mental health; and struggling to maintain long-term relationships. (For the person who's inevitably going to chime in with an anecdote say…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:04 AM
1

No there really isn't an equivalence. Sex isn't payment. It can't force anyone into a relationship they don't want. I don't care if johns like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:36 AM
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Men earn more than women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:06 PM
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It means he's annoyed that most women have jobs and also """hypocritically""" want to date men who have jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:05 PM
2

Having sex with consenting partners is obviously not the same as bribing people to have sex with you who don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:19 AM
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I don't even think it works in America to be honest. (Which isn't an "anglo saxon region", that's an ethnic group from England.) The idea that there's a cheat code to everything, including relationships, has a very American vibe to it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:00 AM
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Whatever "league" men are in they still tend to see these as hookup apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:15 AM
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I don't think most people would like to cheat with a prostitute or let their partner do it. They'd rather just break up and to be honest they might as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:50 PM
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Confirmation bias. It seems a disproportionate amount have had eating disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:59 PM
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You can quite literally add anyone you want to your social circle. You can have as many friends and acquaintances you want and meet so many friends of friends who may be interested and don't know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:39 PM
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I don't have and don't want a lawn. I didn't say anyone was a bad person or didn't have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:35 PM
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Idk American salaries or what job you're supposed to be basing this on so I have no idea of these are realistic figures. In general if you get a university degree you will earn more than your peers who didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:34 PM
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Just get up an hour earlier and you'll get the time back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:32 PM
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I have never paid someone to go intomy house to do a task I'm perfectly capable of doing for myself and parents generally do for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:50 PM
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Just earning minimum wage or less on an apprenticeship to ultimately end up earning significantly less.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:47 PM
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Or just download another app. Assuming you're actually banned and can't come back which doesn't happen often.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:48 AM
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Not having sex and having a less useful dating app profile, how horrible!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:28 AM
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Degrees are in high demamd. They often teach "soft skills" like discipline and research that will get you consistent income. Say you want to be a civil servant, the degree for that is any degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:26 AM
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Someone going on a date with you because they want to have casual sex with you at the end is not a "romantic option". Likes usually don't translate into messages never mind dates and dating apps are used mostly for hookups in reality. People aren't usually wanting a "nice date" with some stranger they found on an app. What is this "heavy punishment" for being creepy to someone on an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:01 AM
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It's economically relevant to get a degree. Many jobs, usually better-paying jobs, require a degree, but don't require the degree to be in a specific subject. I don't get this myth that unless a degree is in a subject that's specified by a particular high-paying job it's therefore useless. (Indeed, where you get the degree can also impact how useful it will be for you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:51 AM
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It's not even about the money, I just don't know how anyone can call themselves a competent adult yet have other people looking after them constantly and refuse to do a thing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:22 AM
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They shouldn't take your entire weekend. OP is adamant about doing zero chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:20 AM
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I'm not talking about those. A lot of chores are necessary and do need to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:44 PM
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I don't think wanting children is good or bad. It's just neutral, your own choice. I suppose it's bad to have them but not want to look after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:21 PM
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Men have been convinced of that for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:15 PM
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How can anyone, male or female, claim to be a competent adult yet refuse to ever do household chores? I think we should all at a bare minimum be capable of looking after ourselves. (Also, cleaning only once a week? I guess you never use your kitchen.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:13 PM
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Being a housewife is not chill and most husbands would just refuse or not be able to afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:20 PM
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It's not just about genes. Humans require a lot of parental investment, so we're likely to concern ourselves about who can care for offspring. Your child's genes don't matter if they die young due to neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:49 PM
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I mean they often don't spend enough energy on other people's relationships to care but if they do care enough to form a judgement it's overwhelmingly negative. (Depends on the circumstances obviously, if someone was abused or cheated on first the reaction is more likely to be neutral to positive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:42 AM
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Poor people often do get married and many weddings are far cheaper than that (personally if we needed a lawyer we wouldn't have been able to marry). Do you think those marriages should just be denied so poor people don't even have a right to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:38 AM
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So you think marriage should only be for rich people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:24 AM
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If it takes a lawyer, many people can't afford that. Your rental apartment is still an asset, you could get kicked out with no compensation or legal recourse, your furniture, labour, bills, groceries are all assets it's difficult to always split fairly. If you don't have a contract you could end up losing all your assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:03 AM
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It's been a right since long before taxes existed. I mean a right in the sense that if you find someone who wants to marry you, you have the right not to be prevented from marrying them. Marriage is a way of formalising these things in a romantic relationship because a couple that's just broken up can't generally agree on what to do by themselves. Most people will merge their assets in a relationship, it's just inevitable and they don't care what you think. (Also not sure how you're going to spl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:35 AM
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Why are you looking at degrees and relying on speculation and guesswork when the actual earnings data is right there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:57 AM
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If you want to negotiate and nitpick over your marriage that's called a prenup and that's already an option. But we generally consider marriage to be a right of any adult and those things are provided by the state for minimal fees, not locked behind closed and expensive legal doors. Imagine a world where adverts were pushing you to get married for lawyers' profits. Marriage is obviously a lot more than a financial arrangement, at its heart it's a social one and because of the implications of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:51 AM
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I don't think they're entitled on the basis of what type of genitals they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:51 PM
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Because they are also human beings who are entitled to the same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:34 PM
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Never mind anything else, you think they have the time for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:17 PM
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Because men are entitled to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:15 PM
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I assume you have the basic intelligence to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:36 PM
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It is men's problem if they can't respect women without personally having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:30 PM
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Do you not think men should have any accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:29 PM
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Should you stand if you're on crutches too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:23 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:19 PM
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I mean it's acceptable to be any height but if you're talking about dating anything below 5'2" would probably give me back problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:19 PM
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I'm a tall mean 5'7".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:17 PM
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Yes. I assume I am tbh. Seems pretty narcissistic to assume every little thing about me is my partner's preference in all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:15 PM
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No, I have obligations to help people too, and I have performed them and plan to continue doing so. The difference between being obliged to not let someone die or get seriously hurt and being obliged to personally touch their genitals is so obvious you're either being disingenuous or an idiot. You don't need everyone to have relationships they don't even want to be civilised or humane for god's sake. You're not a lion, you're a human who I assume is not a psychopath and therefore has a conscienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:07 PM
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People who aren't psychopaths have this thing called a conscience, you might have heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:04 PM
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What kind of "basic human decency" are you talking about? Is it "despising" someone to simply act neutrally towards them and give them no special attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:03 PM
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Radical feminists tend to not be keen on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:02 PM
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Accusing people of gaslighting is an interesting gaslighting tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:02 PM
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I don't know what could be more worth the energy. Posting on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:01 PM
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I did that thing that women never do five times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:00 PM
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If you think nobody wants to date you then you already have some standards. Otherwise you'd quickly find a partner from an old people's home or homeless shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:58 PM
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Very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:55 PM
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10*0=0.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:43 PM
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Normal women don't have infinite options and a huge list of rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:40 PM
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It's my personal relationship. I'm not trying to be progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:40 PM
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You make it sound like it's a punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:37 PM
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Good for her but what about normal women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:36 PM
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I'd imagine threesomes with two women and one man are the most common, but that there are less women willing to have them so it's often the same women with different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:34 PM
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I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:32 PM
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Ah okay you're getting it from nowhere. Yes I said I'm aware you don't like flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:23 PM
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You're meant to talk about it like adults before proposing regardless. My husband and I talked about it plenty before I proposed. The fact someone will propose to you should not be a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:17 PM
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We have completely different ideas and wants about relationships. We are not compatible and he is not ideal. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:09 PM
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Where are you getting this information that most women aren't straight? I get that you don't like flowers but other straight men do, a flower isn't a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:07 PM
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The jobs with quotas are usually the ones that involve sitting around typing on computers and making powerpoints. If you want to be a nurse or work in a factory nobody cares. Of course not all American jobs have quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:06 PM
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She might be straight like most women? Many men love flowers even if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:57 PM
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The vast majority of jobs don't have any quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:43 PM
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Has she ever dated a man who didn't have a top on in his dating profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:04 PM
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They already earn money from labour without quota hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:55 PM
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The longer you act like you have no idea what's going on, the longer you avoid him telling you and "sorry I need some time to recover I don't think we can be friends any more".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:55 PM
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Those are words. Her actions were dating someone who had a top on in his profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:53 PM
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That's why it says your girlfriend not your boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:50 PM
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They could also just not be that rich...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:49 PM
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Most women work to create romance but men aren't known for liking flowers and tend to prefer home cooked meals and getting their house cleaned and their birthday being remembered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:48 PM
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Cut off the money? You think we should ban women from paid work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:47 PM
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Everyone, male or female, is entitled to basic human decency. This includes not letting them die or remain in danger when you can prevent it without incurring that danger yourself. Nobody, male or female, is entitled to sex or a relationship. Is that clear enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:46 PM
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Increasingly young women aren't having sex at all. Casual sex is going down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:44 PM
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In one case they are clearly lying or mistaken, in the other they might not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:41 PM
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I understand just fine. You are not in love with the way someone/something makes your dick feel, especially if you then want to discard that person/thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:40 PM
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Who cares who she matches with? Look at her actions, who she's formed relationships with. Sounds like your original profile was closer to how she made it. It's quite a compliment that she prefers you when you're more yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:39 PM
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My point is did it look more like the profile she made or like the profile you thought she should make?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:40 AM
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What was your profile like when you attracted her? What about the other profiles of men she actually dated? Isn't that the most telling action?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:32 AM
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Most women don't want casual sex so wouldn't be able to have the same attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:30 AM
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Not quite. It's just completely unrealistic to have zero standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:28 AM
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Abuse is illegal no matter what your sex is. It doesn't usually get punished, and even when punished it's still very dangerous. Men are more likely to harm women than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:33 AM
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If that's dating up then so many men are dating up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:31 AM
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Then you fail to see what a fetish even is and should perhaps stop talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:59 AM
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Hooking up isn't any kind of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:58 AM
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She likes gardening so probably enjoys weeding her garden and sees it as a fun activity. It's quite satisfying and allows plenty of space to talk while being open ended about how much time you spend and what you do next and low pressure. Might not be everyone's cup of tea but I can see why it could be suggested. If I was to do it I'd definitely treat the other person to food or drinks afterwards though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:57 AM
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That's such a cop out. You could say any man and woman is secretly dating up if all you wanted was to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:51 AM
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That would be wrapped up in eros...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:48 AM
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There are huge downsides associated with one large and more powerful group seeing another large and less powerful group as less capable of human emotion to some extent. Dehumanising someone is the first step to hurting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:45 AM
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The same as trusting women, I have known them for a significant amount of time and they have not given me any reason to think they're flaky or dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:42 AM
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You said it's only a problem if it's a fetish. You described what fetishising is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:39 AM
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Men on this subreddit often are the type that pretend like they'll be in a relationship with absolutely anyone who accepts them. So they're either incredibly impractical and unrealistic, as of course there's all kinds of things they wouldn't like or put up with in relationships, or they're lying to themselves about the kind of women they choose (because they never do seem to choose certain kinds of women they apparently have no problem dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:39 AM
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If men wanted sex more frequently, logically they would want relationships more as that's generally where people tend to have sex most frequently, not casual hookups. So I suggest those that prefer casual hookups do so for another reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:34 AM
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So men are more likely to do the equivalent thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:25 AM
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Well that would be equivalent to a man getting the ick over a woman getting no men, not a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:52 PM
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Getting the ick about men with high counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:37 PM
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I love us too!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:50 PM
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He is both camp and shy. Loves musical theatre and would probably love to spring if he didn't have a bad knee. He used to take calls for the NHS and people quite often thought he was a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:50 PM
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Oops, you mistyped "woman"!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:37 PM
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Most people thought my husband was gay prior to me (now they think he's bi) so maybe he does?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:12 PM
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Because most succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:20 PM
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Is this girl 2-3 leagues below you in the room with us right now? Just pick someone else if you don't like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:19 PM
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But those times were your first with them. It's only natural to not be relaxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:14 PM
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Probably because they were the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:02 PM
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Nobody has an orgasm this time. Most people have had occasional bad sex in relationships and acknowledge that this is fine. I don't know where you're getting all these generalisations from.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:02 PM
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When you're aroused your vagina undergoes a process called tenting which means it fits around a penis. It doesn't just get huge lol. Unless you use a lot of synthetic lube also, too much lube isn't going to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:53 PM
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Because there isn't going to be good sex today. If they're in a relationship that doesn't mean they won't be up for it tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:49 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:48 PM
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What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:48 PM
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For any reason, I don't know her. Maybe she was even into it but her body didn't respond, it happens at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:47 PM
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That's not the size. She wasn't aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:35 PM
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I'd be curious about where you got these statistics from if anywhere but I didn't date one of these "statistical" men. I've never dated someone from a dating app and like most people I'm too normal and boring for the casual sex scene, so instead I've only been in the one-at-a-time scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:34 PM
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Younger women generally aren't a choice he has, unless you mean a couple of years younger. Women don't like dating much older men either (yes I'm aware there are a few rare exceptions that all these weird old men are competing for).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:52 PM
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Every dick does that sometimes. It doesn't usually become a defining feature unless he actually has erectile dysfunction. Sometimes sex is bad or doesn't work, people usually get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:01 AM
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Actually what most women prefer is having no breadwinner but instead both people work, and nobody who does the vast majority of housework but instead both split. Doing the entirety of one isn't very fun (although increasingly women are getting lumped with both).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:20 AM
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Not a fetish. I don't mind if they have a type. For example they may prefer gingers and think ginger hair looks nice, but it's not the only thing they care about and they'd still date me if I wasn't ginger. I want them to actually like me and for us to get along, I want our relationship to be more than sexual, and I don't want to be left for someone else with the same characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:05 AM
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It's a negative judgement against whether his dick worked that day. It happens; we all have our off days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:59 AM
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In my experience that means it's not going to stay hard in those cases so you might as well call it a day. It's not a negative judgement on the person or anything, but doesn't look like sex is going to be good that day and it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:50 PM
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I'm not sure it is. And schools don't usually serve fast food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:24 PM
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She left them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:08 AM
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Yes very rich and beautiful men and women will potentially have different lives but they are rare and it's rare to even try to chase after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:07 AM
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Public sector is not higher status in itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:28 PM
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Where, in manosphere internet forums?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:27 PM
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Let's not pretend like "many" is anywhere near the same amount in these two cases. And even in the second nobody is paying anyone (although possibly someone wishes that).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:26 PM
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I'm certainly not being tamed!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:16 PM
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One of our main kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:06 PM
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Most of the time. This is why you usually see people having normal boring relationships with no special money or status between them and being content rather than wild gold digging or whatever. They just like/love each other and get along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:21 PM
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Why is a woman's "biggest effort" being with someone when she simply happens to be young and not looking after them, doing household labour for them, giving up their name and identity for them, sharing finances with them, having children with them, having repeated sex with them over many years and promising to be with them forever? That's no bigger effort or commitment than being young? Less simpy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:18 PM
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That's just objectively false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:23 PM
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Very few people kill anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:22 PM
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It's a good thing women aren't attracted to getting attacked then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:21 PM
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It's childish? You weren't even presenting an argument, you were just saying people do bad things and I agree but it's not responding to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:32 PM
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Well you might not have a conscience but most people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:31 PM
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You can't do everything so just give up? Might as well kill them yourself at that rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:30 PM
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They could die by the time the police gets there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:29 PM
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I didn't phrase my post the way I did by accident. People (men and women) are obliged to help people (men and women) in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:17 PM
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It's your job as a human being. By the time the police get there they could be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:12 PM
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Again I said it depends because I don't have other specifics, so that's the only thing I could say needs to be done for sure. I never said you need to physically fight anyone to not be complicit, indeed I've already said somewhere that I don't believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:12 PM
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They're in the process of being stabbed now? Depends on the location, but in any case they need immediate medical help (calling a taxi would be quickest).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:39 AM
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Are you basing what you said on something else or am I correct that it's personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:34 AM
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People caring if you live or die isn't something you're supposed to earn or lose the privilege of. If you can stop caring about people dying just because they haven't personally given you attention, you have no right to say that you deserve attention for free. I'm really sorry you feel that way and I've linked you some resources. I'd recommend stepping away from the Internet particularly manosphere spaces as they tend to exacerbate these feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:33 AM
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Says more about the people you like to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:28 AM
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I just think you might not get much sympathy for feeling lonely if you don't even care about people dying. No, you don't help other people for personal gain, it's what people do if they have a conscience and care about others. You're not supposed to "get" anything for being moral. I don't "gloat" at lonely people - indeed I spent years volunteering at a helpline.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:28 AM
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I'd do what I could if someone was attacked by a tiger short of death. I'm not saying you need to risk death.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:24 AM
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I think even those who have been hurt themselves have a responsibility to intervene when others are in danger. I don't know how you expect others to care about your complaints if you would just let someone die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:21 AM
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That benefit me? I prefer to treat men on dates. I've never had a date pay for my food except for my birthday and graduation. Imagine staging a protest over bring given gifts, you'd be called so ungrateful!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:17 AM
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You don't know them or what they think about you and it doesn't matter if you feel lonely, a fellow human being is in danger. Do you not have a conscience?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:13 AM
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I would say a bystander is complicit. You can help without risking death, and if you think death is an option you're saying you're walking on past a potential murder victim without doing anything, which is disgraceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:12 AM
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People (men and women) owe people (men and women) help when they are in danger. This is obvious to anyone with a conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:11 AM
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If anyone has done that to you, that is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:10 AM
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I said do what you can. Physically fighting the person, if you're on your own, is usually the stupid option. If this person is so dangerous that killing is possible, you would really want to help the victim. I think we owe other people quite a lot, most people have morals and a conscience and think the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:09 AM
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And you're completely free of gender roles otherwise? You expect nobody to do anything even slightly different to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:07 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:54 AM
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Thinking about recent history gives context. The norms of the past didn't just disappear overnight and inform our behaviour today. There's even a growing movement of people who would like to return to these norms. We might question if these things that we find shocking now were considered acceptable in living memory, are the things we consider acceptable today really a desirable way to treat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:48 AM
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I don't think you're going to become dependent on anyone just because they bought you lunch. I'm sure people (dates, friends, family, coworkers) have bought you things on occasion yet you aren't dependent on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:44 AM
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I think we're all obligated to do what we can when a fellow human being is in danger. I don't know how you could just walk past in that situation. Not because you gain anything or are going to hook up with them, but because people who aren't psychopaths have this thing called a conscience that tells them it's wrong to be complicit in someone getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:39 AM
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Good for them but doctors usually prefer to date doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:36 AM
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Marriage is an arrangement where a couple's finances are shared, nobody needs to pay anyone outside an administrative fee to register the marriage. Hope that helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:31 AM
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It's so difficult that it's uncommon for women to even use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:18 AM
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Maybe if they're like forty or happened to develop feelings for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:21 PM
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That's not generally a place to find romantic partners. It's for hookup partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:04 PM
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It doesn't imply that at all. I worked for free as a guide leader but that didn't mean I didn't benefit from it or enjoy it in any way. But she's not being paid just by being allowed to live with her husband. Live-in maids get paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:13 PM
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Even if she benefits from it, it is both labour and free. None of this money she'd be able to access anyway is pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:43 PM
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Relationships don't tend to get over accusations of cheating either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:03 PM
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Even by superficially looking at what men and women wear you'll make a different conclusion about who's copying each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:01 PM
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Literally all of these factors are different from woman to woman. There's a huge and growing number of women who never have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:00 PM
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Maybe you would, and I have good news to you, there are some high quality sex toys out there so you'll never have to talk to a woman again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:59 PM
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Give me a good reason why there should be a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:57 PM
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Well, those preferences, should they exist, clearly aren't winning out as the person I replied to claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:15 PM
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A live-in maid still gets paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:14 PM
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She has a lot more effort in terms of providing free labour for him, while he just needs to continue in his job as he'd be doing anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:56 PM
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The average male and female heights are even six inches away from each other. Men on average are a couple of inches short of 6'1" at 5'10".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:43 PM
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The standard, idealised "traditional" relationship requires a lot more from women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:42 PM
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I wouldn't like to be in the kind of relationship where you have to change how you live your life for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:37 PM
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You could easily replace "women" with "people". The vast majority of people base their political beliefs on fitting in socially and emotional experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:35 PM
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Women are the choosers...yet the average height difference is right in the middle of male and female preferences. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:32 PM
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Have you just forgotten that women have gender roles or something? Most women aren't choosing a "traditional" man because they know how much he expects and what they would have to sacrifice, several times what he ever would.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:27 PM
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I think it's dumb not to make it everyone's job to protect themselves and their loved ones. It gives you much better chances and means you aren't powerless if a man isn't conveniently there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:26 AM
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Technically they can but it's not likely. There just aren't many opportunities for her to meet someone and she's unlikely to get anywhere without doing any of the heavy lifting in her interactions. I've never known a woman that shy to have a boyfriend (not on tumblr or minecraft).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:22 AM
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I don't think they do want to (in the domain of sex/dating which is the domain being discussed here) as they're likely to lose some privilege if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:18 AM
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It's not any kind of phobia to not be personally interested in dating or having sex with someone, although to many this behaviour would be a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:46 PM
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If someone is popular as a romantic option, they are more likely to be popular with people with any given personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:12 PM
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Please do go on with this fanfiction you're writing in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:02 PM
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You've said multiple things about multiple men. It can't be hard to write one sentence to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:01 PM
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I responded to say your comment was irrelevant...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:00 PM
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Can you just make your own comment if you want to talk about this rather than replying to a random comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:02 PM
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That's not what I said either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:39 PM
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You're not responding to a word of anything in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:32 PM
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What photos? Apparently men don't want to be in photos and avoid them being taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:58 PM
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Because I trust my own judgement about an individual over some statistic that may not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:31 PM
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Anyone can choose to, but straight people are less likely to want to step outside their comfort zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:30 PM
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I expect a more role reversed relationship (I don't want children and I think it's unfaor for one person to do all the household labour though) and like to spoil a partner so I do pay for the first date, and will at least split the bill on any date unless it's my birthday or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:29 PM
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If you think men don't like being in pictures, that might explain why some women don't have any to post on their profile...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:26 PM
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People that old usually don't have social media never mind a profile picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:24 PM
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I don't think it says much, it's just a personal preference. I've known both good and bad couples to have each. Often people just want to make it clear which person they are by having an individual picture or just really like a picture with someone else in it, which doesn't say a thing about the quality of their relationship. My profiles are usually a picture of just me, because my account is just mine, although I currently do have my favourite wedding photo up as my Facebook and Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:23 PM
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It just doesn't factor into my preference as I don't pick partners based on statistics that may be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:18 PM
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With the exception of couples that failed because one realised they were gay and forcing themselves into a straight relationship all along, I can't think of a single failed couple that I can say were genuinely each other's best friend at any point. I'd say that a common problem in failed couples is not being able to see each other as friends or a team or anything other than a romance/sex partner and/or coparent. I wouldn't say friendship is about common interests though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:37 PM
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Basically everyone is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:32 PM
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I already know that having more previous sexual partners makes men more likely to cheat. But I'm not going to pretend like that's the reason I prefer men with fewer previous sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:37 AM
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I'm no expert on human nature but I do know our nature. It's all been quite natural for us as neither of us has been particularly caught up in blindly following expectations of what we're supposed to do, so instead in our relationship we've just done what made sense and what we liked. I wonder how many suppress their natural desires just because they don't know what that would look like (quite a few people, mainly women, have confided in me privately that they would love to do this or that thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:10 AM
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It depends on her personality and level of confidence mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:36 AM
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I'm not sure why you'd want to have sex with another person rather than masturbate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:35 AM
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You said that attraction requires crossing a physical threshold (if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached) but not, crucially, that attraction only requires crossing some physical threshold (if and only if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached). Which would be a much stronger claim and not readily accepted, but would actually lead to your conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:33 AM
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You said that attraction requires crossing a physical threshold (if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached) but not, crucially, that attraction only requires crossing some physical threshold (if and only if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached). Which would be a much stronger claim and not readily accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:32 AM
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You said that attraction requires crossing a physical threshold (if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached) but not, crucially, that attraction only requires crossing some physical threshold (if and only if sexually/romantically attracted then x physical standard has been reached). Which would be a much stronger claim and not readily accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:32 AM
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Dating is a relatively modern invention. Arranged marriages have been a cultural norm in much of the world and indeed continue to be depending on where you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:14 PM
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Yes really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:29 PM
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That is called rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:05 PM
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Tell me you don't know how British government works without telling me you don't know how British government works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:05 PM
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I wouldn't recommend crossing any country in a car you haven't tried driving. You'll want to get used to the controls and make sure it even works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:01 PM
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You might care about morality or even want them to enjoy it? Maybe even have more than just casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:00 PM
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Unfortunately rape victims are likely to kill themselves or feel like killing themselves. Usually fighting to the death isn't an option to avoid rape, as much as you kick and scream you're not going to die from it (assuming you are conscious and aware of what's happening).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:26 PM
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How many career women do you know who don't pay for any part of their house or bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:19 PM
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What description?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:53 PM
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If their money isn't needed they're not providing are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:53 PM
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What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:35 PM
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You're hardly a career person if you can't even make a living without help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:34 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:26 PM
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What are you stuck on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:38 AM
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You mean you have to get the test yourself? I think that's reasonable to take your own responsibility in that fairly minor way. It won't show you who the dad is if you don't have their DNA. People can choose for themselves if they want to take this small risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:32 AM
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No. I believe it should be your own choice. Most people don't want to do it and would find it an insult to be forced to. If you're too scared or dumb or whatever to do it when you feel you should, that is your own responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:23 AM
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Actually "civilisation" has generally meant women marrying who their dad wants them to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:17 AM
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This is not what I was talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:22 AM
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I wouldn't have sex if I wasn't horny and you can't feed me into doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:22 AM
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Not feeling much from PIV doesn't make you "sexually unresponsive". People can be plenty sexually responsive even when using a tongue or dildo to get their partner off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:27 AM
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I don't think you could make sex sound any less appealing. Seriously, who's able to get horny when they think like this? Or enjoy any other aspect of a relationship for that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:22 AM
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They've existed long before this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:08 AM
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Ambitious career women don't get others to provide for them. Maybe the term you're looking for is "share finances".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:50 AM
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Which would you like to do more, "provide" or stay a virgin until marriage? If they were the same, wouldn't nobody be able to answer that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:49 AM
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You're not "providing" just because your salary is £1000 more before taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:46 AM
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You can't call the police as they'll just say "you're not my virgin husband/wife so I don't care".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:43 AM
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I think it's unreasonable if the husband isn't aexually traditional. If he isn't a virgin, why's he expecting her to be? Generally the tradeoff for being a "provider" (calling yourself a protector is an ego boost you're not actually doing any protecting) is that your partner provides domestic services, which women generally do in those arrangements (or even if they're both providing money tbh).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:42 AM
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Who is casting me as a victim of what and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:30 AM
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I don't think I've actually seen or heard any woman say that she was the first choice of any man she hooked up with. Probably if asked she'd say they probably weren't each other's first choice but were available in the moment, and that it's an odd question to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:30 AM
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Considering how a single digit percentage of women are even interested in other women never mind me in particular, it's certainly not easier. Not to mention the way that homophobia, you know, exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:27 AM
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That advice is if you want to keep the relationship. If you want to break up, then sure, tell your partner you're not interested in them any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:21 AM
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Well, they certainly are to the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:19 AM
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This is most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:19 AM
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You think gender roles don't exist?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:16 AM
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One wouldn't necessarily apply the other in that case - a man could technically have casual sex with lots of normally chaste women and that is a common fantasy. But if you're biased against an act where a woman is dominating a man you're implicating both there. One or the other side cannot be more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:16 AM
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I think you're underestimating the "cis heterosexual middle class young adult", or at least my husband and friends certainly know what top and bottom mean. You were comparing, you just have compared and said it's a thing for women and not men, even though I've explained why that makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:13 AM
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If someone told you they had been mugged would you be going "but what if what if maybe there's a tiny chance they're lying to me" or would you support them like a normal person? (Also I'm guessing you studied physics.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:36 PM
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Enjoy your cubicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:33 PM
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That's not actually what it's about. It's about when a man or woman comes to you and you aren't a judge or juror or the prime minister or whatever and nobody is going to prison over what you do and they tell you that they've been raped, you don't immediately assume they're lying. Just as you would if they said they were a victim of any other crime that's reasonably likely to have happened (in fact as far as we can tell the odds of them lying about it are very small). You support them. You don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:26 PM
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I don't know if this is the case with anyone else but my reddit DMs are so broken I might not see a new message request for like a month. But idk you could just ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:16 PM
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Sex is an act between two (or occasionally more I guess) people and sexual identities don't really exist on their own independent of anyone else. I can't stay a top if I have nobody to top, if I don't have someone who's a bottom to me (something that, by the way, I certainly wouldn't describe as passive). If my partner decides to "hold himself back" and not be submissive, then I am held back from being dominant too as I can't dominate. I guess I could use a certain label without him necessarily …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:14 PM
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They spend it all on essentials, hobbies, activities, stuff for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:28 PM
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Women are just less likely to be violent in general. That's not common for any kind of man to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:26 PM
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I literally said they might not like a woman coming onto them who isn't their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:00 PM
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Then haven't you been lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:56 PM
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I didn't say anyone wanted anyone dead or escalate what anyone said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:54 PM
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By calling women ugly/mid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:53 PM
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I didn't say anyone was insecure. Obviously they didn't like me. The only weird thing about my approach was my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:53 PM
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I was not comparing those? I thought we were talking about overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:51 PM
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I don't think that. Of course men care a lot about physical attributes in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:38 PM
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Thanks for your sage advice...it's not like women analyse every tiny detail of how to attract men or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:37 PM
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Found another!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:36 PM
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Found another!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:35 PM
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It's the only thing you care about. That's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:33 PM
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I've personally been rejected multiple times never mind anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:30 PM
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Zendaya started out as a model. I didn't say average was unattractive, but I don't think there are many men who are attracted to over half of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:28 PM
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Real ones. A lot of imaginary men out there. Turns out they want specific women not a disembodied vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:07 PM
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If they've stopped approaching they're not usually waiting for someone to ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:06 PM
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If you're complaining that women only express interest in 20% of men, then you shouldn't have expressed interest in less than 20% of women. Very few men have flirted with even 1% of women they've met. Your point about other factors in attraction isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:03 PM
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You can't seriously think men prefer women to not shave their intimate areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:59 PM
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So I'll just not listen to men then. I'll rely on your personal feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:58 PM
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Zendaya is quite literally a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:55 PM
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I mean you could personally be odd and I won't deny that, the problem comes with generalising about men in general when it's clearly inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:50 PM
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It's more soul destroying to hope someone will approach and it never happens, being let down again and again. I don't think men would be able to deal with that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:43 PM
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And make some men angry or insulted. Maybe you should read their mind first to see which they will be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:42 PM
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I thought it was pretty clear I the context of talking about Zendaya. I'm aware not all mixed people have black ancestors, for example my husband who is Anglo and desi.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:39 PM
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I didn't say you did. Just that you find at least some women unattractive who are extremely far from "unkempt neckbeards".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:35 PM
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You see why I put both in my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:34 PM
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Found another!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:33 PM
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Men don't understand what men find attractive. They seriously think plastic surgery has no use yet think the women who had it are gorgeous (so long as they don't know).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:33 PM
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You were lumping them together as Zendaya is mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:31 PM
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Your idea of an unattractive woman is a model (Zendaya is a model).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:31 PM
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If they don't find a whole race of women attractive that's ruling out a large percentage right off the bat, black and mixed women are over 20% in many countries already before you even go into other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:21 PM
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Found another!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:20 PM
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Found another!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:19 PM
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Good for him. You could find someone too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:19 PM
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Well, clearly your idea of an unattractive woman isn't "the equivalent of a highly unkempt neckbeard" if actual models fall into that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:18 PM
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Absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:16 PM
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Found one already!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:30 PM
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Yes they do. They are much less likely to have boyfriends. They're not going to get a date if they refuse to plan to meet anyone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:25 PM
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There's a substantial number of men who are adamant that Zendaya is unattractive and looks like a man and Emma Watson is average or worse. I don't know of any man who's asked out a whole 80% of women he meets, even if we restrict it to the same age group. Maybe 1% at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:24 PM
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I'm just saying you should get a plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:21 PM
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Probably because they feel emasculated or they want to be able to choose and don't like a woman coming onto them who isn't their type. I guess you wouldn't hear about it as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:20 PM
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Picking your partners just based on looks is terrible decisionmaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:18 PM
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They'll only get richer women if they're richer. You're saying they think richer women are hotter then, that's good incentive for women to get rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:17 PM
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Making as much as you do isn't an abundance and it's only rich women with rich men, not all women. It's also the men picking those women in their income bracket. Are you saying they work more to get richer women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:04 AM
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The living in denial league?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:03 AM
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Usually people pair up with the same income bracket as themselves regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:58 AM
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No, they're the only things you pretend to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:52 AM
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They used to be. Women now have jobs they are paid about as much as men for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:49 AM
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One of the only things you value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:41 AM
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Men work to get money for themselves, not to attract women through some bizarre mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:41 AM
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It has been my experience and the experience of many other women. I don't like these norms and in fact have approached men right up until my husband said yes, but other women are likely to feel differently especially because the reality is we live in a world with certain gender roles and we all just have to adapt to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:29 AM
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A woman seeing you on the street is going to assume you're like the majority of men and want to approach rather than be approached. Do you have a way to let women know you feel differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:26 AM
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I have approached men and I know that no matter what they say in theory they usually just don't like it and get put off. (And a man who's insulted by an approach can sometimes get quite scary, thankfully I have not experienced this but it is a risk.) The female role in dating is usually to approach in an indirect way by placing yourself in front of him and laughing at his jokes and twirling your hair or whatever because men usually like to feel they're making all the moves and controlling the wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:12 AM
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I'm not going to respond properly if you're not going to be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:33 AM
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I understood what you wrote and responded to it. You're meaning to say that you disagree with my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:31 AM
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No, I read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:46 PM
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That's called being female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:43 PM
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Female superheroes, being really fit, would generally have smaller breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:22 PM
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It makes sense for superheroes to have muscles...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:50 PM
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Both are equally attractive and aesthetic to me, although in different ways. I couldn't choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:13 PM
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There's loads of media out there about vampires and they're not even real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:03 PM
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Most women don't have a "hoe phase" and choose to be in relationships with people because they really like/love them. If they're not interested they simply don't start a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:18 PM
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To you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:01 PM
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Not by the same person I assume. People don't always mirror, but they tend to at least somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:55 AM
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There are much more productive uses of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:54 AM
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Is it "improving" to become more insecure and waste time on looks just because you personally feel better at job interviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:05 AM
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Good for you. Giant leap from A to B there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:58 AM
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Okay I don't care as I have a different idea of quality and it involves not fighting a losing battle with beauty. If you pick partners like this you won't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:34 AM
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I guess modelling would be the one exception, as men and women have to look hot to do that. But that's not "everywhere", only a small minority are models.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:32 AM
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Maybe, just maybe, not everything is about having a "high quality mate". And maybe some people don't have the same taste as you and think it's higher quality for their partners to like how they actually look.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:18 AM
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You don't take beauty standards seriously yet you regularly wear makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:03 AM
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Sure they are, very slightly so you wouldn't notice. I mean that nobody ever wins trying to look good to men, they just sabotage themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:02 AM
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There are many many Asian people in the UK for a start. Many many people who don't drink. Most people do not have casual sex. But you want to form stereotypes to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:00 AM
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Child support or paternity fraud are not issues of bodily autonomy. Men are not in any of these cases forced to do anything specific with any body part that they don't want at any time. You might get taken more seriously if you didn't try to make it analogous to pregnancy, which is about the most invasive thing that can happen to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:56 AM
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It basically is already given how often it's paid in full. Do you just want to make it so nobody pays it and men face zero consequences for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:49 AM
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Female beauty standards aren't just about finding relationships like male ones, they're about how everyone reacts to you throughout your whole life and they're incredibly pervasive. If they're this unavoidable thing that's ingrained in every woman's brain in a process starting at birth I don't think we can help but take them seriously. I am someone who is very much not trying to practice wasting time on my appearance to cater to men (I haven't even worn makeup outside a special occasion for abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:28 AM
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No. If someone is rude to you then you are more likely to be rude back. I can only see them seeming "sweeter" if it's in a condescending or sarcastic way. People generally mirror the way others act towards them. In the case of the drunk man I wouldn't call that being "sweet" she probably just didn't want to feel responsible if he ended up dead in a ditch, it's just basic human decency to make sure someone is safe even if they're rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:23 AM
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Congratulations on proving my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:19 AM
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Yikes...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:19 AM
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He can't find a single woman who likes him in his whole country yet in another they'll just be falling over him (because they're inherently different apparently)...sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:18 AM
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I can't see a significant number wanting to leave the comfort of home behind due to questionable beliefs about women and certain nationalities. Immigration is not a walk in the park and brain drains are always from poorer to richer places for better living conditions rather than voluntarily worsening them. They'll just get wives/girlfriends at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:25 PM
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Because they're trying to market to women to have more women on the apps. This is obvious. (And Marvel to date has three female superhero films? There is no marketing about superheroes specifically being female for the others.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:49 PM
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That's about the worst environment I can imagine for any kind of conversation. Maybe if it's a silent disco...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:01 PM
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So you're telling me what works with you because you're neurodivergent...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:00 PM
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You're trying to talk in the club?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:51 PM
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Have you ever talked to someone for over ten minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:50 PM
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Could you give an example of this treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:45 PM
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Being a woman is not separate to being a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:45 PM
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Talking about clubs and music is normal conversation. It isn't flirting. You'd talk about it with your mates or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:43 PM
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Talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:41 PM
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So you don't want to talk at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:14 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:08 PM
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So they have a prolonged conversation and it may go somewhere. That's better than not even finding anything in common and boring each other because you just flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:59 PM
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Depends on if the person they're talking to shares that interest. If they happen to then there could be a real spark! In normal conversations you don't go on and on about something the person you're talking to finds that boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:44 PM
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If there's no difference between people, they don't act any differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:42 PM
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Okay so you enjoy boring conversations. Maybe that's why constantly flirting doesn't make you fall asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:58 AM
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What kind of talk is that? I've never heard a woman say she felt unsafe from a normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:57 AM
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You know that couples have mostly normal conversations right? Most people don't flirt constantly but will slip it in during a conversation. Otherwise it's just boring and you don't really get to learn anything interesting about the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:23 AM
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Flirting all the time is boring and surface level! You wouldn't get to know much more about them! Are your conversations with your friends and acquaintances that stale?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:22 AM
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It doesn't sound like you're doing it because it keeps interest but rather because you feel you're bad at everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:21 AM
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You could maybe talk about something more interesting than work or education. I don't think most people enjoy talking about that even with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:16 AM
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Or you could just have a normal conversation rather than opening with immediate flirting or immediate highbrow discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:15 AM
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Read what I wrote. I said that if you are attracted to someone, you can have conversations that aren't flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:14 AM
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According to OP "it's just playful banter back and forth". No proper conversation where you might display your actual character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:08 AM
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Do you think that talking to people is an either or? If you flirt even once then other conversation is just off the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:05 AM
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Obviously the way to be attractive is to show no personality or interests or depth and instead just constantly flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:03 AM
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Why is a woman not a regular human being? Can you not talk to someone like a regular human being and also flirt with them? Can you not flirt with some people and also not flirt with others of the same sex as them? Isn't just flirting with someone and never having a proper conversation...well, boring? Why would you want to have babies with someone you won't even have a proper conversation with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:38 AM
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Clearly they think there's some characteristic that is completely different between different nationalities/races that is causing this difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:34 AM
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Same principle applies. If they don't think they can find someone who likes them in a whole country that's just their prejudiced views talking. Or if they're genuinely so disgusting that nobody wants them (I don't believe that) then a different country won't change anything so at most they'd be able to pay people to ignore the fact they're not attracted at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:10 AM
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I don't think most care to be honest. I've never met a woman who gave a shit so long as it wasn't causing a legitimate problem (like playing games instead of doing chores or choosing them over spending any time with her or letting gaming ruin his sleep cycle). Which happens more than you'd think as gaming addiction is pretty widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:36 AM
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I doubt they can't find anyone in a whole country they fancy unless they have some hugely prejudiced beliefs. It is stupid and prejudiced that certain nationalities/races are more submissive...but I'm sure the British Empire might agree. Not to mention it is predatory to want a partner to submit to you outside roleplay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:32 AM
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Reverse paedophilia is not a thing. You don't lock up children for being molested. And it is not paedophilia to be attracted to a grown adult who is short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:43 PM
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Your meals sound gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:21 PM
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It tastes better, is better for you and can be customised to whatever you want or need. You'd end up feeling so much better after a couple of weeks of home cooked meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:20 PM
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Well maybe you only value like three things in women but others are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:18 PM
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They absolutely can even if many don't want to or can't be normal around the opposite sex (I don't want to date these people). I would much prefer to date someone with female friends, my husband has them and one of his closest friends is a woman. He's also friends with a woman who he had a huge crush on and went on a date with. I don't care so long as I'm convinced anything romantic that might have been there is over. I probably wouldn't date someone who ever had a friend with benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:12 PM
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I like introverts because they're complementary. I assume there are others who are the same. I don't get those who insist we're attracted to the exact same qualities as we have ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:31 AM
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Introverted men and women are less likely to be in relationships, because, well, they're introverted, so less likely to meet someone to date. I prefer introverts but they still need to be extroverted enough for me to be able actually meet them (I can do literally everything else but I do need to know they exist and get a response when I talk to them that doesn't scream "go away"), in a world where increasingly some people aren't even leaving their house unless necessary it seems I have to state …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:30 AM
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The majority of women no. His female equivalent yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:53 PM
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Being a tomboy means nagging constantly? (Do masculine men do this?) And being feminine is being cowardly? (Do feminine women do this?)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:51 PM
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Yeah it's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:50 PM
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The child obviously? That is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:50 PM
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A crazy homeless MAN you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:49 PM
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Stop being silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:59 PM
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You can't kill anyone or commit acts of terrorism with a marriage? And bold of you to assume I agree with gun laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:43 PM
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Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:59 PM
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Driving would put other nonconsenting people at risk and may kill them. Marriage could give you and your partner, who both agreed to it, a financial arrangement you don't like if you change your mind. The government has no business saying some people's love is more deserving of special perks and social validation. (Also there is effort. You need to pay a fee, give notice in advance, submit documents and find two witnesses.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:59 PM
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Of course, only the deserving Good Special People should be entitled to a relationship-based tax cut!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:38 PM
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Some might but I'm not one of them. I've never said that kind of thing ever. If I want to know something I will either directly ask or find a way to verify like looking someone up rather than play a silly game. It's not having "strong emotions", it's having a strong desire to play silly games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:05 PM
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Why should the government decide only Good Special People can be married properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:22 PM
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It's just silly stuff for silly people. I don't get it and don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:20 PM
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It's greedy to want a mortgage in 2024!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:19 PM
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And they call me misandrist...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:34 PM
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I have a mental disorder because I care about my personal finances and think it is healthy to? Wanting a mortgage is anxiety now!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:33 PM
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I would not have a romantic relationship with someone I exclusively cared about sexually amd everything else was just "work". Which is what I was actually talking about. Romance is caring about someone and having a connection as you aim to share your life together, you know the things that fouples do that let you know they're a couple. Nobody buys me meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:31 PM
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That's not what I said. I said asking someone on a date doesn't mean you want an immediate casual hookup on that date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:30 PM
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I didn't say sex wasn't part of relationships. I said asking someone for coffee is not a sexual request. You're not asking them to do anything sexual. Most likely you will go home after doing nothing sexual. I didn't ask why you want dates, I assume it's because you want a relationship but it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:29 PM
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"Date", for normal people, does not mean "have sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:27 PM
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Should I not believe what they say or do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:27 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:26 PM
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That's all well and good for now, but adding another person to your household (and potentially more small dependent expensive people) would bring your expenses up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:26 PM
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That's all well and good for now, but adding another person to your household (and potentially more small dependent people) would bring your expenses up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:26 PM
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Oh really and how do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:24 PM
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Maybe it's like that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:24 PM
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Maybe that's the case for you. But most people actually enjoy it and care about their partners not as sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:42 PM
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Maybe it is the case for you. Others aren't looking for sex immediately and would be offended by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:41 PM
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It's a way of saying you'd like to spend time with them in a romantic setting. Not everything is sex immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:41 PM
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I think you need to be a millionaire for it to be sensible to not care about additional income one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:40 PM
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Asking someone out for coffee is not a sexual desire. I'm not sure why anyone would post about wanting to ask someone out for coffee on reddit, and only that, unless they wanted to get criticism about it. You're criticising people yet doing the very same thing by saying a date is automatically a sexual desire and sex is "unholy" and men who have sex are just pretending to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:29 PM
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Well I've never met a millionaire never mind had the opportunity to date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:26 PM
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I'd say friends/acquaintances first works better when you're younger with more cohesive friend groups that meet up and mix regularly rather than like a monthly coffee shop trip. Young people tend to be a lot more laid back about dating and open to seeing where things go. Older people tend to try to rush things (understandably) and will date much more formally and intentionally. Single parents are more likely to go for "bad" partners due to past experience of a partner who left them and their fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:52 PM
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I don't think many women are doing this thing. I think you are encountering some women, who don't like having sex straight away so are only comfortable with relationships, and other women, who are fine jumping into bed immediately so will go for hookups too, and assuming they're the same because you don't think different women can be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:47 PM
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I don't think there's a single non-physical trait I don't share with a significant number of men. Some men say and do and feel things I don't really understand, but so do some women. I think a lot of people come from the perspective they couldn't possibly understand what someone with different genitals feels and prove themselves right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:45 PM
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Now that's a man who's showing off about being financially irresponsible and not wanting a mortgage. You just don't care about half your household income? Not even it's not a dealbreaker you just don't care? Yep I just cannot see you making smart financial decisions if you're that laissez-faire about one of the most important factors. (Not to mention that not caring what your partner spends half of their time doing seems like you're just not interested in them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:41 PM
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No I have never wondered that as your premise isn't true. Obviously both parties cheat way more in toxic relationships. I can't say I've known anyone to get pregnant with a toxic man unless they didn't have other options or found out he was toxic only after the fact. (And your point about women's biology being predictable makes no sense, women's bodies are unpredictable and all these timings you give are just averages of things that very wildly. If you're like me and your cycle is 20-40 days, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:25 AM
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It might be that the factors that cause them to divorce/lash out at their wife leading to divorce also cause them to feel suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:22 AM
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If you did that I bet men would suddenly get a lot better at doing divorce paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:20 AM
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In ours it's around a C or C*.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:17 AM
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Adults should be free to make the decision to get married if they choose, no matter if it's a good or bad decision. It shouldn't be some elite privilege. They know the risks and they're free to avoid the risk of divorce completely by not marrying, they don't need to be babied about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:11 AM
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Showing off those superior love skills right there...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:38 AM
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I have the same standards in men and women. I'm attracted to them the same, I love them the same, it feels the same, I don't prefer one over the other or see one as not human or whatever the fuck. I'd say women might be more likely to meet my preference but it's the same preference and I don't care about the sex of who meets it. I don't expect a partner to "provide" or "perform" they just need to not sit on their bum doing nothing all day and put some effort into the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:37 AM
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Okay I don't think that's a sexual orientation or needs a label like it's something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:32 AM
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I wouldn't. But usually when that happens, dad is nowhere to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:30 AM
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Depends on the woman. Some lose, some gain and some are neutral. I would gain some if he was bi and lose some if he was "curious" or "experimenting".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:23 PM
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His birthday is this October and I've booked him three days in Amsterdam and a one day trip to Brussels on the way back (Eurostar). I have yet to plan the activities but I know I need to find a nice restaurant for his birthday dinner and book some museums and the Anne Frank house. Oh yeah and his first birthday that we were together I made him a scrapbook of our relationship so far which took a couple of weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:20 PM
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This only checks out because a) only men who really really want to be single parents and know they can handle it tend to choose to do it, whereas women are often just left with their child without really getting another option and b) male single parents are significantly richer. Men actually are the default parent when they ask already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:16 PM
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I don't like that word. It's not an orientation it's just taking time to feel attraction, most people take at least some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:13 PM
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I like short!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:12 PM
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Technically, but only because I don't find people attractive who I don't know well. I find a lot of men I know attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:11 PM
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Different people have different physical preferences. It's usually not particularly deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:15 PM
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To travel outside of America? Happen to date there maybe? No, although I wish American tourists were a little more considerate about walking single file on the pavement when I'm going about my business. To find specifically non-American women to date because [insert reason here about why they think their fellow countrywomen are shit]? At the very least that's indicative that there's something very wrong in their beliefs, even if the predator label might not apply depending on who exactly they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:13 PM
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Because it's based on bad communication and ignoring consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:42 PM
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That doesn't sound like a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:29 PM
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I don't think anyone should see getting a partner as hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:29 PM
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I prefer the system we have currently, where if a child actually has autism or another disability as determined when they've actually been born they are offered appropriate help and support for free (although not a cure, as there, you know, isn't one and no matter how much money it can't be avoided). You're suggesting a less efficient system with more eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:21 PM
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"Abundance mentality" or no, if someone rejects you then you shouldn't keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:15 PM
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That's...the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:51 AM
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Option 1 has no downsides, completely my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:48 AM
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If you're looking at finding a partner as hunting (catching and killing something that doesn't want to be caught) I worry about any relationship you might enter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:41 AM
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Oh really? Name another then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:39 AM
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I actually make the first move so nice try but I'm definitely not talking about me. Do you actually want to date these weird women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:38 AM
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Inefficiency at what? What kind of danger?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:39 PM
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If you make the first move that means the other person makes the second. Which means reciprocating, not saying no. None of these beliefs conflict with saying that no means back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:06 PM
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I don't think anyone should force themselves to have sex. That's only going to end up with them not wanting sex as they come to associate it with obligation, not lust. Sex is not something we do to "compromise" (I fail to see what the horny party is conceding to make it a compromise). Why is it wrong to say that if one person is horny and the other isn't they should deal with the desire themselves rather than thinking the other has to do something? If they were hungry and the other wasn't they'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:04 PM
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In very rare circumstances. Your "headspace" will not change your anatomy. Have you ever even been in an anal headspace?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:01 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:09 PM
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And they're most likely to be sexually assaulted in their home, for example with a friend they know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:08 PM
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So would you be happy with every man who has sex with someone from a different country to himself having zero rights to the custody of any children that result?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:06 PM
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That is really rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:00 PM
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If it's sexual assault or rape they don't exactly have a choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:50 PM
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They usually wear loose or form-disguising clothes, what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:54 AM
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Attractive bodies for women are all about curves and balance, which is up to whichever way your body chooses to store fat. Being thin will make you more boxy or lanky if you're predisposed to it, not less. Also, crash diets don't work, if you somehow become skinny in a year you'll put it right back on next year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:49 AM
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So if he was the same except completely different. It was his gentle, kind, nurturing, emotionally available nature that drew me to him in the first place. If he was horrible we wouldn't even have become friends never mind me asking him out afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:13 AM
3

Those studies show that men are literally attracted to those traits too, are you willing to accept that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:10 AM
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That's not what he said. He said a couple of his friends showed it wasn't impossible. He's unable to make a claim about what's more or less likely in general based on a couple of his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:09 AM
1

Read what I wrote. Not impossible. May not apply to everyone. But. Makes. It. Less. Likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:08 AM
1

Well yes, if you and your partner want a baby "some time" and means of making it much easier comes along it'll probably look like now is a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:41 PM
0

Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:38 PM
5

Many thresholds must be very low then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:36 PM
8

It's very often, unless you think all men look stunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:24 PM
2

Read what I wrote. No it is not impossible to date with a bad personality but it. Is. Less. Likely. Your friends who you don't like are doing the not impossible thing, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:20 PM
7

You can get a relationship without good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:13 PM
4

You'll need a better argument to say it isn't even an impediment because that's a very strong claim. Especially as you seem to be saying it is an impediment but other factors can make people ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:11 PM
3

And men are also held back from dating by their bad personalities all the time. It makes it less likely to happen, even if not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:10 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:09 PM
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What a failure of logic. Just because a bad personality doesn't prevent absolutely every man from getting into a relationship does not mean it cannot prevent any man at all from getting into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:54 PM
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That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:45 PM
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You can feel that but that's not what's going on here. Labour isn't my favourite either but there's no need to say things that aren't true and just make your side seem silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:45 PM
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That doesn't sound like tipsy...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:03 PM
1

Five years with one man, actually. You're most likely to be raped or sexually assaulted by those close to you, especially a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:59 AM
1

A lot goes into how much trauma you experience, it's not as simple as more sex partners = more trauma. If you can't deal with your partner's trauma I doubt you could make a good partner as everyone has it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:55 AM
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