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Everyone should have whatever standard they want. And, if no one meets your standard, and you're content being single, more power to you. You should be supported for sticking to your principles. Just don't complain about it later, that you can't find a decent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:58 AM
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Idk, man. I can only speak from my own experience. Lemme preface by saying that on paper, I should be cooked when it comes to dating. I've never used a dating app. I'm in my mid-40's, not rich, not famous, not tall, not white, not jacked, have a pretty bland 9-5, and I'd say that on a good day, I'm only about average looking. Despite those glaring flaws, I have an active dating life, and am still able to date very attractive women (I hate rating people, but let's just say solid 7's and up) who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:05 AM
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How old are you? Because this sounds like a question only a person who has never been in a loving relationship would ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:14 AM
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Ok. You're absolutely right. But it changes nothing. There's no such thing as "fair" in dating. So, either pay for the first date or lose your opportunity to a guy who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:38 AM
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That has not been my experience at all, and I'm in my mid 40's (still pass for being around 30). I find dating women in their 20's much easier simply because there are just so many more of them still available. Finding single, childless women in their 30's and 40's, who have mostly maintained being physically attractive is much more difficult than I anticipated it ever being.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:42 PM
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I promise every partner you've ever had has at least a few times imagined someone else while having sex with you. Even if it was just for brief moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:25 AM
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Not true. I'm about as average as it gets, and I've dated, and still regularly date, very attractive, much younger women. Granted, I look very young for my age, but I've never misrepresented my age to any woman I've dated or hooked up with. In my experience, once a woman, of any age, has become attracted to you, they stop really caring how old or young you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:07 AM
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Men prefer to do things where the results of their efforts are tangible or quantifiable. Need a house painted or a fence built? Men will happily take that job on. Need a hole dug? Give me a shovel and point the way. But you want us to hang out with a strange, troubled kid, that we have no connection to, other than he got assigned to us, and have to talk with them about their feelings, hopes, and wishes?? Yeah. No thanks. Leave that sensitive stuff to professionals and people who actually enjoy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:35 AM
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A reason can be valid and stupid at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:14 AM
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Again, we're not talking exploited peoples. We are talking about informed, consenting individuals making their own decisions. Your presenting a strawman analogy. Your entire premise is, "I think it's icky, so no one should be allowed to do it."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:57 PM
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This is not about incels looking to legalize prostitution for their own benefit. This is about consenting adults, men and women, being able to make their own decisions. Even if those decisions conflict with popular morality. You're assuming every person has the same experience and morality as you do about it. We're not talking about people being trafficked, or drug addicts, or people being somehow exploited. We are simply talking about rational, consenting adults. If an informed adult knows all …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:21 PM
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I wouldn't know, but my guess is you can't. But that's outside the argument. We're talking about fully aware, fully consenting adults. All the pitfalls and evils that are the result of the criminalization of prostitution are beside the point. If prostitution were legal, it could be made safe, it could be regulated, it could be monitored, it could be taxed, and it could be a viable profession for those willing to do it. And just like anything else, those who find it distasteful or immoral can cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:38 PM
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No, it isn't an item. It's a service. And what does entitlement have to do with it? There is no entitlement implied. One can't buy a service if no one else is willing to provide it. If someone is willing to sell a service that someone else is willing to provide, how is that entitled? And how is it dehumanizing? It's a simple transaction, ie, "I pay you X dollars. You perform Y service." Is it wrong to pay for a massage? Both are services where the seller is providing the buyer with pleasure. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:32 PM
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Yes. You are correct. Different jobs have different duties. But as long as someone is doing something of their own free will, and not being physically forced or coerced to do something, they should be allowed to make money from it. You may find prostitution distasteful, but if another consenting adult doesn't have that same view, who are you to say it's wrong for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:42 AM
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That's not correct. She does "want to" do it, but only for a certain price. Just like any other job. My server at a restaurant doesn't "want to" wait on me and serve me food. They do it because they're getting paid. Would I ever pay for sex? No. Because like you, I'm more interested in being desired and the intimacy of sex, than I am interested in the actual sex itself. But for some men, even "fake" intimacy is better than none at all. And the more money you spend, the more real you can get it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:23 AM
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There isn't a universal right way, but there sure are whole lot of wrong ways to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:05 AM
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In theory, this approach makes sense, but it doesn't work that way in reality. The men OP is talking about, who would choose to go this route, are the most vulnerable to exploitation and manipulation. I've known a few sex workers as friends over the years, and it's not as cut and dry as OP is making it out to be. The sex workers I've known would eat these guys alive. Drain them of every cent they had, and leave them even worse off than before. They'll say everything these guys want to hear, make…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:02 AM
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If she was ok with me finding it elsewhere on occasion, then I'd be willing to at least see if it could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:59 PM
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I don't understand this argument. Unless we're talking about paid, personalized content on sites like OF, where is the illusion of intimacy with porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:23 AM
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Because women are wired to be attracted to strength. Someone crying displays the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:04 AM
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I don't disagree necessarily, but friendships change as you get older. At 25, most of your friends have ample free time to hang out, go to activities, etc. When you and your friends are 35, that'll have changed dramatically. A large portion of them will be married, have kids, and have big responsibilities that make casual hang outs much fewer and farther between. You'll still be very good friends and all, but your time spent with them van easily go from being a few times a month to just a few ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:12 AM
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It's meant to be limited and an indicator of general opinion, not universal opinion. The factors you mentioned are assessed after the initial marketplace value, not concurrent to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:01 AM
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Obviously, one good parent is better than two bad ones. No one is claiming that having a two parent household guarantees anything, but the numbers speak for themselves. Children of two parent households, on average, do better in school, social settings, employment, income, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:43 AM
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If casual sex is your goal, unless you have major physical deformity or mental issues, it's absolutely achievable. Ugly men get laid all the time. You have this unfounded notion that only conventionally attractive men are the only ones having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:47 AM
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Insecure, immature men are intimidated by a woman who is more successful than they are. A man who is comfortable with himself and has his own life together couldn't care less what a woman, or anyone else for that matter does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:47 AM
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I'm not agreeing with you, but let's just say you're right. So, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:48 AM
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When it comes to people, there's no universal anything. So, quit worrying about it. If there's someone you want to approach, take your best assessment of the situation, adjust accordingly, and just go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:50 PM
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Why? I've always held the opinion that strictly platonic relationships b/w men and women have always been extremely rare, regardless of place or time. But that doesn't mean having romantic relationships are impossible. It just means that the trope of opposite sex platonic friends transitioning to something more is, and has always been also extremely rare, if not altogether false. As far as dating, hooking up, casual, etc go, you can still have and get those relationships. It's just more realisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:28 PM
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You don't... at least not with one you find even mildly attractive. You can be acquaintances, even very good acquaintances, but you'll never be friends, at least not nearly the same way you can be with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:20 PM
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What's the issue? I didn't even know it existed until now. And from what little I scrolled through, most of the people on there just looked like normal people you'd run across every day. I didn't see any stunners looking for ego boosts or anything like that.
/r/AllPillDebate23/07/23 06:56 AM
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I would argue that older men dating younger women isn't because younger women are easier, there are just much more of them available. Case in point, I'm in my early 40's. I spent a lot of my 30's in ltr's, but for whatever reasons, I just never ended up getting married and/or having kids. So now that I'm back in the dating world, the number of single, childless, and attractive women at or near my age group is much, much smaller. Whereas women in their 20's are plentiful. In my case, it helps tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:51 PM
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Okay buddy. If you say so.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:22 AM
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Idk man, I'm short, but I'm admittedly shallow and selective when it comes to looks, and the women I've been with have been very good-looking. But hey, maybe you're holding out for all those dimes to come knockin'.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 09:04 AM
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Only if one of the party's uses that knowledge to have sex w/o any intention of following through on having the relationship. Meaning, eg, if the man says he also wants a relationship just to have sex. Or conversely, if the man expresses no intention of having a relationship, and the woman has sex with him, in hopes of changing his mind, then being upset with him after if he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:46 AM
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I think it's a much more nuanced question than a simple yes or no. If a man thinks a woman is attractive physically, he couldn't care less how young or old she is. For one, let's be honest, women on average, tend to show their age much earlier and more severely than men. While a man might be well into his 30's, he may still easily pass for much younger. Women, not quite as much. So, if a guy can still pass for the age group of women who are more physically attractive, it stands to reason he'd ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:13 PM
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Ok. Fair enough. But if your situation isn't one that can get you the things you want, why not change your situation? A fisherman can't catch fish if he's not willing to travel to the water. So if you're purposely limiting your opportunities, then you can't complain about not having said chances. And if you're not having success using OLD, why keep doing it, expecting a different result? Worse yet, not only are they expecting success, they're getting bitter when it keeps not working out in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:42 AM
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Stop approaching, period. I can't remember the last time I tried what anyone would call a cold approach. Almost every single girl I've dated, or even met that I could potentially date, I met organically just by either being in mutual circumstances, or by just frequenting the same places enough times to have a familiarity enough to have a natural interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:51 AM
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Just stop worrying about the things that are out of your control. Stay fit so you look presentable, and for your own health and well-being. I'm short (5'7") and just average looking, but still have little trouble meeting people and finding dates. Stay off OLD and meet women the old-fashioned way, in person. I know it takes more effort, but OLD is stacked against you, so why keep playing a losing game? If height is a woman's dealbreaker, and that means you're already off her radar, so be it. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:27 PM
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28 and 35? No one cares. That age difference is negligible. 22 and 35 will raise a few eyebrows. Moreso for the maturity gap than the age, and it would be more unusual to see a very young man with a very mature woman than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:30 PM
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Tbf, that's not a good picture of him at all. So, not as bad irl as the pic, but still, no.
/r/AllPillDebate07/01/23 09:29 PM
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I don't agree with this, but for the sake of discussion, let's say this is accurate. So, now what?? You know the rules. You know it's not "fair". And you know that with the exception of a small percentage of men, the game is stacked against us. So, now what? Are you just going to give up on having sex and/or relationships? It's the only game in town, so either play it or don't. If you choose to get out of the game, no problem. There's no shame in tapping out. But if you still want to date and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:51 PM
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I'm not seeing the problem here. Those are the only options for all of us. Either keep trying by improving our skills, and hope for the best, or find a way to be content living life out of the game. All a therapist or anyone can do, is try and help someone take either path in a mentally healthy way. The only crime here that I can see is that it costs $400 to get told what should be painfully obvious. But that's not the therapist's fault. He's just making a living.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 08:56 PM
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In my prime dating days, coed sports leagues were a goldmine for finding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:23 AM
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Despite what the pill communities like to believe, most women do not have a history of hypersexuality. OP is using the extremes to make his argument. And if you need to appeal to the absurd extremes to make a case, your argument is most likely, a bad one. Hypersexuality is more often than not, a result of past trauma or abuse, and if a woman has leaned towards that type of behavior in the past, chances are she's got other issues that make her unsuitable even for long-term relationships, much les…
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 12:44 AM
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It is almost impossible to talk redpill men out of their positions because doing so would contradict their lived experiences. The inverse is also true. I'll never accept redpill as "fact" because it contradicts my entire dating history. I've pointed out multiple times on these subs, that if it's idealogy was "the truth", I should be a kiss-less virgin with no hope of ever finding any type of romantic/sexual relationship. According to RP, I check off all the dating death sentence boxes. I'm not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:57 AM
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Waste of time/money. The guy who's wearing them is probably still short even with them in his shoes. Besides, what happens when you take your shoes off and your suddenly 3 inches shorter? You're gonna look and feel really stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:43 AM
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What's the issue? That's not even a lot considering my age. I've been sexually active since I was around 15 years old. That only comes out to only roughly about two partners per year since.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:20 AM
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I'm 40+, and my current gf is 25. While I don't keep track of my body count, I'd estimate that it's in the 40-50 range. In 25+ years of consistent dating, I've never dated or hooked up with any woman over the age of 29. I've had all types of relationships over that time, including long-term, short-term, fwb's, ons's, etc. I'm not rich (barely make > 100k), not tall, not white, not famous, just average looking, and don't have a six pack. While I don't doubt any of the studies you cited, none of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:03 AM
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I'm 41, and my gf is 25. It doesn't bother her a single bit, so why should I let it bother me? We met, had a good connection, and found each other attractive. Our age gap never once even came into question with each other. If not a single thing changed about her except the number of her age, I would still date her, whether she was 21 or 45. Who cares? I only see it as a problem when older men specifically target younger women due to some arbitrary generalizations they believe in. Eg, they only d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:20 AM
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It happens all the time. But it's almost impossible through OLD. I'm an average guy. I only date women who looks-wise, are out of my league. But you gotta develop charm and sociability, and then use those traits in real-life interactions with women.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 08:16 AM
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That's all supposition, and frankly, wrong.you have no idea how she feels, or what she thinks she deserves. If she actually still gave a shit about your height, she wouldn't be with you in the first place. Women can find dates with litte to no effort, if height is an issue for her, she can easily find someone else more to her preference. But once she's dating you, she's already stopped caring about how tall or not-tall you are.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/22 08:07 PM
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The problem with this sub, and the others like it, is that a lot of readers can't differentiate b/w a preference and a requirement. Sure, if you poll women what they prefer, they'll all say 6ft plus or whatever. But, that doesn't mean all men they've ever dated were 6ft tall, or that she would never date anyone under 6ft. That's just what, in her mind, she prefers. I prefer women with black hair. But that doesn't mean I won't date a blonde or a redhead if I find her attractive. It just means I j…
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/22 03:04 PM
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Gtfo with this. As an older guy, hanging out with 20yr olds is annoying af. The majority of them are obnoxiously full of themselves and think that they know everything about life, even though they've barely experienced any of it. That's just the nature of all people at that age, both men and women. At that age, most have no idea who they are yet. And that's something only experience can teach you. Our brains aren't even fully formed until we're in our mid to late twenties. Besides that at 20, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:43 AM
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Because strength can be measured, and attractiveness cannot. One attribute is objective, the other is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:01 PM
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I'm in my late 30's and I've had relationships with women in all ages over 21. If I met a woman in her 30's that I found attractive and was compatible with, I'd have no issue dating her. But single, attractive women w/o children are much less available in that age group. Women in their 20's are just a much larger dating pool. I'm not insinuating that it's my age that makes me attractive to younger women. But for the most part, it doesn't seem to be a hindrance on being able to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:33 AM
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I think it's a hard-wired biological male response within many social species. Remember, birth control has only been available for the past 70 years or so, which is a drop in the bucket of all of human history. Before that, female promiscuity had much higher consequences. Evolutionary psychologists have theorized that taboos against female promiscuity evolved on the basis of paternity anxiety. DNA tests being yet to be invented, it was impossible to accurately determine paternity, unlike materni…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:15 AM
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I date more women in their 20's now than I ever did when I was in my 20's, so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:20 PM
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Men and women are not the same, and never will be. There's a reason why in recorded history female promiscuity has always been frowned upon. It is as close to a universal view as you can get. While I agree that everyone should be free from being shamed for having their own agency and making their own decisions, freedom from shame does not meet freedom from consequence. Women are allowed to value looks, wealth, height, etc. So men should also be allowed to value their own preferences, including v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:21 PM
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Those go hand in hand in the sexual marketplace. A young woman is much more likely to be purer than an older one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:32 PM
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Sorry, but that's nonsense. Women need to take accountability for their own decisions. Men don't make women anything. These women chased the men who had no incentive to commit to them, and for any number of reasons, couldn't handle the consequences of that behavior. Women control men's access to sex and reproduction. They have to allow a man to impregnate them. There are 40+ forms of birth control for women, many of which are free and/or easily available. In this day and age, there is no excuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:31 PM
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I don't doubt that that's what you've experienced, but the data doesn't bear that out. Your typical wealthy person, is usually not wealthy until they're at least in their later 30's. Studies have shown that a woman's peak desirability for adult men (regardless of the man's age), is between the ages 20 to 25. So these wealthy men, who are older, are still attracted to young women the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:19 PM
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Again, I'm not saying men want virgins. In this day and age, at least in the US, less than 15% of women are virgins by the time they graduate from college. So finding an adult, attractive woman, that is still a virgin, is completely unrealistic. But all else being equal, a woman with fewer partners is more desirable to men than a woman with many partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:57 PM
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You're correct on that most men, rich ones included, don't expect virgins. But almost all men will prefer an inexperienced woman to an over-experienced one. So a rich man, who is at the top of the food chain in the sexual marketplace, has nothing to lose by rejecting women he deems too experienced. To men in that position, women are easily replaceable, with younger, hotter, and less-used ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:28 PM
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No one with with sense shames a woman for preferring a rich man to a poor one. But you're (selectively?) leaving out the important trait that men desire, besides youth and beauty; purity. The "shaming" is because women seem to be fine with double standards, but only when they work to their advantage. Women want a man to be "traditional", in that they're willing and able to protect and provide, but are unwilling to be "traditional" themselves. They want all the benefits of sexual freedom, but non…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:16 PM
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It only matters when you're talking about avenues like online dating where all intangibles are not accounted for, and thus, are considered equal. If you ask a hundred women; "All else being equal, would you prefer a guy who's 5'2" or 6'2"? A hundred women (or damn near close to it) will pick the taller guy. You could replace the heights in that scenario with any other tangible. Eg, salary, handsome-ness, fitness, social status, fame, etc. and you'd get the same result. Women have preference for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:14 AM
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Most? No. But it's not uncommon. I'm well past 30, and have dated a number of women in their lower 20's. But it helps a lot that I still look young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:49 PM
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Very common. None of those attributes are an indicator of how good that guy is at talking to, and charming women. As a man, to be successful at dating, you need a combination of looks and charm/charisma. If you have those things, you don't need much else. If you don't, it doesn't really matter what else you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:47 AM
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Lol... if you can't get with younger women or those in your age group, what makes you think you'll be able to pull hot, older ones? Older women are even more discerning. For younger women, just being attractive is 75% of the game. Older women aren't so easily swayed. You need to be much more interesting to seriously catch their attention. You might stumble upon a few who are just looking to get laid, but those are few and far between, and more than likely not attractive, even for their age group…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 06:40 PM
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I used to feel the same way. Maybe not quite to the same degree as you, but I get where you're coming from. What worked for me was just to stop having expectations, and just let the chips fall where they may. If I text a woman, I do it knowing that I may never get a response. If I do, great. If not, whatever. Move on to the next. The key is to only invest as much energy/emotion as you feel you're getting back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:50 AM
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That whole movie is perfect. If you haven't seen it, do yourself a huge favor and watch it. It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:23 PM
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"I think of it like this; If you're going to eat a sandwich, you would just enjoy it more if you knew no one had fucked it." - Vladislav The Poker
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:40 PM
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You're purposely using ridiculously extreme examples to try and make a point. Despite what many in this sub believe, the vast majority of women aren't hiding a past full of gangbangs. And women that are hyper-sexual in that way, more often than not have some kind of mental health issues or past trauma. In which cases, are most likely not going to be the women you find long-term relationship compatibility with anyway. We're talking about average people in average situations. Would I date an ex po…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:38 PM
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Not if they keep internalizing this "pill" nonsense, instead of actually going out and having relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:59 PM
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Would I prefer that my girl had been with fewer guys? Sure. But if I meet someone I really like, we connect on a mental and physical level, we share a mutual respect, attraction, and admiration for each other, and most importantly, this person makes me happy, I honestly couldn't care less about her history. To be completely honest, it's none of my business, and I can't hold her to some standard that I don't even hold for myself. I'm making the assumption that most guys on this sub, and on reddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:09 AM
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Are they capable? Yes. Do they usually make the best decisions? I'd say that depends on a multitude of factors, like how they've been raised, what their peer group is like, their education, etc. But that applies to everyone, men and women, in that age range. If you've been raised in a bad environment, you're probably going to make bad choices.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:26 AM
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While flattering, I doubt that's the reason. I've been rejected enough times in my life to believe that that's true. I just think that while most guys might not possess all the characteristics that are desirable on paper, once you're talking to a woman, those characteristics matter a lot less. You can showcase the intangibles of your personality like, humor, kindness, intelligence, etc. So while I agree that looks might help to get you in the door, once you walk through, you've got to bring more…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:10 AM
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Definitely not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:04 PM
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I think they are. Now, I'll admit that a handful of times I may have had a bit too much to drink, and had a few ons's with women who weren't anything to brag about looks-wise. But in general, I like the challenge of women who are "out of my league". So I'd say overall the women I date(d) are pretty good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:48 PM
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Not at all. I work from home. But I do make sure I make time to be social by going out to a few bars/hangouts that I'm a regular at once or twice a week. And I try to stay active by joining social sports groups during the warmer months.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:19 PM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:15 PM
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Thats good news! Not bad news, less competition trying makes it easier for you. I don't see it that way. To me, it's not a competition. Someone else having success doesn't mean I'm failing. The idea you can say lift and out compete other men for women is great, you can control it If a girl likes you, she's not gonna care about your lifting. If a girl only gives you the time of day because you have a ripped body, she's not a girl worth going after to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:03 PM
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I honestly couldn't tell you for sure. If I had to give reasons that i think help me, I'd say that I'm naturally social, and genuinely enjoy being around people. I like being nice and making people comfortable. And it's important to me to always try and have good interactions with others. Also, while I fear rejection as much as the next guy, I care more about what I stand to gain from going after the women I like, than what I might lose by getting turned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:55 PM
8

I've got about half a dozen guys I would consider my really close friends, maybe twice that many good acquaintances of both sexes, then who knows how many acquaintances of varying degrees beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:46 PM
0

There's no secret to it my friend. But there are things that will help you, things that will hurt you, and a whole lot of things that really don't matter as much as you think they do. The key is recognizing the difference between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:30 PM
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That's awesome, good for you man. It can be so depressing being on this sub and reading guys think they're doomed and give up just because they're not 6ft tall, or make a million bucks, or got rejected a few times and think that that's the only kind of experience they'll ever have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:21 PM
7

Care to explain? Or are you just wanting to throw that out there for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:55 PM
8

Tbh, idk. I stopped keeping track many years ago. If I had to guess, it's probably in the 30-40 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:47 PM
31

My entire dating life experience contradicts the pill theories. I'm not tall, not white, not rich, not famous, not muscular, just average looking, and make average money. Essentially all the traits that the pill truthers would say were a death sentence in the realm of dating. But I've been consistently dating in short/long term relationships, hookups, fwb's, ons's, etc. with all different types of women for my entire adult life. So either I have some sort of superpowers that help me attract and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:48 PM
1

Get involved in your own interests that can be done socially. Eg, if you're into being active, join some co-ed sports leagues or activity groups. Become a regular at a bar that you like and make friends with the staff. Every time you go there it'll be like hanging out with friends, and you can extend that to meeting people who go there. The important thing is to make sure you're following your own interests, not just trying to go out and pick up women. That part should be incidental, not the goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:28 AM
1

I participate in this sub mainly for entertainment, but also because I remember being young and feeling a lot of the same things that other men on this sub who struggle with dating do. So honestly, I want to help if I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:29 AM
1

If it's a casual friendship, it's easy. Any deeper than that and it gets difficult to almost impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:47 AM
1

Don't ever be their friend to begin with, unless you're sure that you have no interest in them romantically. Your problem is that you've accepted the friend role. But let's be honest, they were never your friends to begin with that was just your way into their orbit. Now you're complaining because you can't get out of it. Can you go from just friends to lovers? Sure. It happens, but it's extremely rare. What's more likely is that you'll just end up frustrated waiting for a transition, that will …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:19 AM
5

Because people who subscribe to this pill nonsense need excuses as to why they don't have dating success.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 08:49 AM
1

Nobody gives a fuck about your muscles and body fat %. As long as you look reasonably fit you're fine. If your having trouble with women it has something to do with how you're talking to them.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 08:47 AM
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You're conflating two different things. I'm not implying the dating market is an even playing field for all men. It isn't. It never has been, and never will be. But almost nothing in life is fair, and all you can do is the best you can with what you got. All I'm saying is that all the studies in the world don't mean a thing when you actually go out there and meet real people. If I took studies like this as irrefutable fact, I'd have given up completely as these studies indicate that the odds are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:28 AM
1

Because frustrated men will take that bs as fact and give up on going after their own happiness, because "studies" like that tell them it's hopeless. When in reality, there's plenty of success to be had out there. If even one person reads my post and uses it as an example to find success, then I've helped. Whereas perpetuating this doom and gloom attitude helps nobody and just keeps more people in misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:15 AM
0

So what you're saying is, that the dating experience I've gathered in the last 10+ years is invalid because some nonsense surveys say it should be. Got it. Y'know what, I'm good on that. I think I'll just keep dating the women I like, while you guys waste your time and energy bitching about how unfair it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:59 AM
3

Again, I'm significantly shorter than 5'11". In no way am I a "Chad" of any kind. I'm about as average as it gets looks-wise, I don't really work out, other than physical activities I do for my own enjoyment. What's more likely here? That I'm some sort of outlier with magical seduction skills? Or that these surveys and studies just aren't reliable, and that real life dating can't be quantified through surveys and online dating data. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I know where I'd put my m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:18 AM
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That's BS. I don't care what these "studies" say. I'm Asian, 5'7", don't make nearly that kind of money, and have dated long and short term, hooked up with, etc, almost nothing but white women for the past decade plus, several of whom were definitely taller than me. What women say they want on paper is world's different than what actually happens in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:27 AM
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If you were Asian or grew up around them, that number wouldn't be surprising at all. I'm actually surprised it wasn't higher.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/22 11:36 AM
5

Not trying to throw shade on anyone here, but I'm seriously asking, what is the point of this post? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the ultimate goal of any of these "pill" ideologies is to help people who have found difficulty navigating romantic relationships, and the point of these subs is to discuss these issues with that goal in mind. I'm having trouble seeing how posts like this are helpful, or even useful in promoting discussion.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/22 04:44 PM
1

It's not a zero sum game. If a woman is into a guy, he can be 5'8" and she won't care, but if he's 4'8" that makes a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:41 AM
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You obviously don't understand what extremes mean. Bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:32 AM
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There's no talking sense into you people, even when every single day, you can walk outside you see men under 6ft in all types of relationships with women. Despite any evidence to the contrary, believe whatever you want. The only person it's holding back is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:30 PM
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if a woman expressed that sexually she was most turned on by someone that didn’t look like you, would you really enjoy sex with her? If this woman and I were in a relationship based on mutual admiration and attraction? Absolutely. 100% I would, and if those were the circumstances, so would she. We all have ideals in our head about what our ideal mate would look like. We see them on TV, movie screens, Instagram, etc. every single day. But those aren't real people, they're fantasies. They're what …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:10 PM
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If she finds you interesting, you make her laugh, feel safe, respected, and valued, I promise she won't give a shit how tall you are (obviously, unless your height is on the extreme ends of the spectrum). And if you do all those things, and it's your height that's the only dealbreaker, you're better off w/o her. These supposed height requirements are just filters for lazy people who aren't interested in getting to know somebody first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:33 PM
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No they don't. I'm nearly 40, and I might think that a woman in her younger 20's makes the best looking porn, but you couldn't pay me to have to try and have a serious relationship with a woman that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:24 PM
2

No it doesn't. It just reflects the economics of sex, where men create the demand, and women control the supply. This is not a new concept. This is the biological imperative in countless species, and despite all of this subs protests, it will continue to be so. It's time to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 06:18 PM
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If you're a shorter guy, just don't OLD. You're likely heavily filtered out before the game even starts. You can have success elsewhere. I'm 5'7", nothing special to look at, and just make average money. But I had an amazing first date just last night with a beautiful girl at least 2 inches taller than me. If a guy like me can consistently meet women and get dates, it's not impossible for the majority of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:44 PM
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Lmfao... Is this post for real?! Who talks about themselves this way? Because if you actually think this way, then yes, your personality is definitely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:55 PM
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This question is insulting. I've got nothing to prove, and if it takes me having to qualify myself like a job interview to gain your interest, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:36 PM
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This obsession with height by men on this sub is pretty ridiculous. I'm 5'7" and have been consistently dating for longer than I'd imagine a lot of people in this sub have been alive. In that time I've dated women ranging in height from 4'10 all the way to 5'10", and not once in all those relationships has my height even come up as an issue. I'm sure lots of women over the years have in their minds, immediately dismissed me as a potential mate due to my lack of height, but that's been their prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:22 AM
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If you view relationships as who has power over whom, you should just not have relationships to begin with. Which I suspect for anybody with these kind of idiotic mindsets, isn't much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:56 AM
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Unattractive women kind of have it worse if we're factoring in the workplace. The likelihood of getting hired/promoted doesn't diminish nearly as much for men as it does for women from being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:58 AM
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No they don't. If a girl is into you, there's no "wooing" necessary. All you have to do is communicate and spend time with her, otherwise known as going on dates. Which she's happy to do, because as we already established, she already likes you. The only time a man needs to woo woman is when she's not particularly interested in you in the first place. In that case, you might succeed in gaining her attraction, but in my experience, that rarely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:56 PM
3

I find this quote from Maya Angelou is valuable for life in general, but it's especially true when it comes to dating: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:17 AM
1

If you want advice on being better at fishing, you don't ask the fish, you ask a successful fisherman. Same rule applies to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:06 AM
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Depends on the partners. If you genuinely enjoy their company, and it's not just strictly sex, then it rarely gets boring. If it's just two people trying to get off, then it can get old pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:37 AM
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Here's how I deal with it. I don't. I still don't agree that there's other reasons for ghosting, but for the sake of discussion, let's say your example exists. In that case, I would steer well clear of a person like that. They obviously at best, expect you to be a mind reader, and at worst manipulative and immature with their ridiculous mind games. If a person you're interested in doesn't act with honesty, integrity, and consideration, they're not worth your time. So, if you can just cut off com…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:53 PM
1

This is part of the game. Especially the lower someones self esteem is theyre more likely to do these nonsense things like intentionally delay or ignore stuff Which only reinforces my point. If she had any consideration about you or your feelings, these types of games would not be played. If your boss texts you, you reply. If your family or your friends text you, you reply. When you don't care, you don't. Not replying indicates that that person who is texting does not matter to you enough, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:35 PM
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There's only one reason a person, but for the sake of this discussion, let's say a woman, doesn't text you back within a reasonable time frame; It's because you don't matter to her. Period. End of story. Any other reasons she might give you are just excuses she gives herself to not feel guilty about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:46 AM
1

All over. Done the right way, you can strike up a conversation with almost anyone, almost anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:27 AM
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It's not pointless, but you have to understand that it's nearly impossible for a woman to fully grasp what it's like to be on the male side of the dating equation, and all that entails: the approaching, the initiative, the rejection, the failed communication, etc, etc. It's much the same as trying to get a person that's always been rich to know what it's like to always have been poor. All that being said, I think it's more pointless to argue with other men who have been consumed by the "pill" ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:47 AM
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We're not talking about being obligated to reply immediately. Expecting that, goes against the entire convenience and concept of texting. If you want to wait until your workday is over, or until you've got some time to actually respond thoughtfully, that's completely fair and reasonable. It's when people just don't respond that's the issue. If you have people in your life that you don't care enough to reply to in a reasonable time frame, first off, why is that person in your life to begin with? …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:50 PM
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Ive been working for decades, and no one is that busy. Texting someone back takes almost no time at all. Especially since people, women probably moreso than men, are attached to their phones 24/7. And if it's a bad time, it takes 10 seconds to say "Busy atm, text you back when i get free." Hell, save that as a quick reply. Then it only takes 2 seconds. Any reasonable person on the other end is going to be understanding about it, and if they're not, then it's fair to ghost. But if someone communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:44 AM
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Not balding. Very few, if any wrinkles. Greying but not noticeable. My body is definitely not in my 20's anymore, but I'm still active. But the point is, I'm not getting surgery and cosmetic procedures and all that, or maintain David Beckham levels of grooming. I still date women in their 20's, probably more now than when I was in my own 20's. Before you make assumptions, I'm not rich, and "splash the cash" as you say. Just routine maintenance and still have a healthy social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:52 PM
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Nope. I'm well over 35, don't do any of those things, besides workout a few times a week, and date just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:58 PM
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Yup, she wasn't ugly by any means, just "plain" looking. Just randomly struck up a conversation at a bar, she flirted. I flirted back. Things progressed from there. It was ok I guess. Nothing noteworthy, but fun enough at the time. Never saw or heard from her again. We both knew it was gonna be a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:33 AM
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I think your scenario, where she's gained a significant amount of weight, is unnecessary. Men leave their long-term partners for a newer younger one all the time, even if they've stayed in good shape. There's a saying "Find me a hot girl, and I'll find you a guy who's tired of fucking her." For some men, it's just in their nature to always seek out the next conquest. I.e., to some men, steak might be their favorite dish of all time, but even those men want some chicken once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:17 AM
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It's not a lifestyle you "want", so much as it just happens to you if you stay unmarried and progress in your career. If the definition is simply being having a six-figure income and being relatively fit, most "professional" men will meet these standards as they get older. For a certain age demographic of men, it's actually quite common. That being said, if you weren't having success with women before you got to that point in your life, you're probably not going to have much success with them on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:06 AM
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Nope. Men are wired to be attracted to all women, just to varying degrees. Obviously the hottest ones are the most attractive, but each man weighs his odds of success with each woman. It makes no sense to spend energy on women you have essentially zero chance with, so it's better to spend that time and energy on the most attractive, yet realistic, option. I liken it to a man shopping for clothes at his favorite store. For this example, let's say it's a large dept. store (eg, Macy's, etc.). The m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:31 AM
2

Depends on your age. If you're in your 20's it's easy to find people who are still child-less. Once you get into your mid thirties, that dating pool gets much smaller the older you get. Now you can still choose to not date a single parent, but you'll be cutting yourself off from a lot of potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:26 PM
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Any approach that seems like an approach has a very high chance of failing, regardless of place/setting. Unless you're a dreamboat that she's already been eyeing, walking up to her and cold approaching is going to bring her guard up, and once it is, it's very difficult to bring down. If you can make the interaction seem natural or at least not scream of an approach, your chances of success are exponentially higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:47 PM
1

I'm not totally against it, but I've never had too much trouble meeting and dating women the old school way, so it's not a thing I feel that I particularly need to do. Besides, you can't tell what a person is really like from an OLD profile. Sure, their pictures might be nice, but you can't really get a feel for their personality. I don't care if a girl is hot, if her personality sucks, or she can't carry a conversation. And there is such a thing as instant chemistry with a woman, that you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:32 PM
1

I meet women the old fashioned way, in person. Either through friends and acquaintances, or by being at the same places regularly (gym, bars I frequent, etc.). I don't use OLD because it's a game that's stacked against all but the most physically attractive people. I'm not tall, not rich, not white, don't have a six-pack, and I'd say I'm average looking at best. So the chances of me getting matches that lead to dates with women that I'm actually attracted to are very slim. Whereas speaking to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:13 PM
1

Well the places you mentioned are the most populated cities in the country, so more people is always going to mean more chance for success. There's no mystery there. I don't OLD or use apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:39 PM
1

Ok. So where are you? And what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:43 PM
1

That might be true. I have no idea, as I have done zero research, but I feel like dating is virtually the same in any large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:40 PM
1

Do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:23 PM
1

I live in Chicago
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:15 PM
3

All types, but predominantly Caucasian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:10 PM
1

I'm American. I'm asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:44 PM
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C'mon, let's be honest... it's short. Most of my guy friends are in the 5'10" to 6'3" range, and it's a very noticeable difference when we're all standing next to each other. The overall point is that just because a woman says she has a requirement, doesn't always mean that it can't be overcome with charm, or humor, or any number of other qualities. But I agree with what you're saying about guys who are particularly short. Their options are going to be more limited, and they're going to have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:47 AM
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Idk... I'm 5'7" and I've dated dozens of women, of all varying heights over the years. Some who were significantly taller than me. Would I have had more success if I was tall? Maybe. Who knows? So while the height requirement might be a rule set in stone on this sub, it hasn't been an issue I've ever felt like I needed to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:26 AM
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I'm in full agreement that sex isn't everything, and casual sex means even less as you get older. That being said, the hard part for most guys is when they struggle getting sex at all. If you can get casual sex without too much trouble, that means you're at least competent with women, and can also get relationships and love, if that's what you're looking for. It gives you options. If you can't get even casual sex, you'll probably never get the other things either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:51 PM
1

First, we need to define the parameters of being "friends". For example, are these people you're on good terms with, that you sometimes see at parties? Or are we talking about the kind of relationship where you can completely trust, and/or rely on them? The kind of relationships where if you were gone, would genuinely affect their lives. If it's the former, then yes, men and women can be "friends". And I'd say that to have a healthy social life, you need a mix of both genders in your social circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:58 PM
5

You're out of your mind if you think those are "average" looking white people. Matthew Macfayden was a major movie male lead opposite beauty, Kiera Knightley. Holly Hunter was an A-list celebrity for years. Dagmara Domincyk has been a female lead in Hollywood. The list goes on. Maybe because they're older now so they're not the heartthrobs they used to be, but that cast is definitely not the average of attractiveness. If that's what you're looking for, go walk around a Walmart in the midwest. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:01 AM
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If your girl wants to fuck DB, or any other guy, that has nothing to do with you, or your "frame". Stop thinking that any pill bullshit gives you control over someone else's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:03 PM
1

Go join a league or activity that requires you to interact with other people. Idk where you live, but in my city, there's no shortage of classes, leagues, organizations, etc that are group oriented, from book clubs to music classes, to cooking classes, you name it. Pick an interest of yours, and look up organizations for it. Get out of your comfort zone and sign up. If you're doing things solo, and then not making an effort to socialize, that's not going to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:07 PM
2

Then those times really weren't going to help your social life, were they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:23 PM
1

That's the point of doing it as a team activity. You and your team agree on the answers. Now if you're so insistent on answering yourself, then perhaps a team setting doesn't work because you have personality issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:53 PM
1

Just curious... How do you embarrass yourself playing trivia?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:39 PM
2

If you have no motor skills, you cannot be, by definition, athletic. And since you lack athleticism, being competitive, in sports at least, would just be a futile exercise for you. My suggestion would be to stick to the leagues/groups for activities that don't require a lot of physical exertion, e.g., board games, trivia, etc. You can still use them to network and be social, w/o having to embarrass yourself by falling on your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:27 PM
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Co-ed is short for "co-educational", which is an American term that means "both men and women". I'm guessing you're not in America, so idk if these leagues exist where you are. In the US, pretty much any major metropolitan area has lots of these types of leagues. As for age limits, the leagues typically require that you are at least 21. Since the leagues are often sponsored by bars, it's expected that after the league games each week, the teams meet at the sponsoring bar for drinks and/or food.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:40 AM
0

It just is. Let's say you were a vegetarian all your life, can you really say you know what meat tastes like if you've never eaten it before?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:47 AM
0

Because life is just better all around when you're in a good relationship, and you'd have to have had one before to really understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:38 AM
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You're missing the point. Playing the sport is just an excuse to meet people and socialize. If the game and competition is what you're there for, then I agree, I'd rather play in a men's league. But, the point is not to compete at sports, it's to meet new people and have a shared activity to socialize around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:42 AM
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Recreational co-ed sports leagues are a gold mine. I did them for many years and never failed to get dates from them. Even if you're not athletic or competitive, they have beginner level leagues for almost all sports, even "kids games", e.g., kickball, etc. The leagues are often sponsored by bars, and are usually just an excuse to grab drinks after the games. You can sign up as an individual, and the league will pair you with other solo players to make a team. If you're not into sports, they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:10 PM
1

Solution to what? As far as I can tell, dating is the same as it's always been, the tools and accessibility are just different. My solution to the problem of OLD, would be to stop doing it. If you're not one of the genetically fortunate that can have success based on looks alone, why beat your head against the wall on a modality that is designed to work against you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:27 AM
5

Really? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:56 AM
30

I've been dating for decades at this point with all types of relationships, long-term, short-term, fwb's, ons's, etc. and I have never once inquired or even thought about, how long, or not long, the woman I'm with made a previous partner wait to have sex. Why is this even a sticking point for anyone? Who cares? I've waited weeks into months before having sex, only for the relationship just to fall apart quickly, but I've also had sex on or even before, the first date and had good, long lasting r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:22 AM
2

Ok buddy. You're right, because lying to strangers on the internet has any kind of value to me whatsoever. You don't have to believe me, it changes my life exactly zero percent. My success rate is far from 100%, but it's also not zero, which it also isn't for most people, hence it being the average. But, according to your logic, since you haven't had any success, that means nobody else can possibly be having any either. Judging from your attitude, something tells me that the reason you're always…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:48 AM
1

In my experience, no matter how "viscerally attractive" I found my partner in the beginning, the longer the relationship lasted, the more that attraction faded, and became less important. It's not that I stopped finding her attractive, it just stopped being the kind of attraction that sparks mad last. I'd argue that only those with little or no long-term relationship experience realistically expect that initial "visceral attraction" to last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:07 PM
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Believe it or not your experience, from what little I know of it, is the exception, not the rule. Not only do studies bear that out, but I also refute your definition of average, based on my own experience. I'm below average in height, make average money, not white, not muscular, not particularly good looking... basically everything the pill truthers would say that I should be a kissless virgin for the rest of my life. But it's not true at all. I've had long-term relationships, short-term relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 09:51 AM
1

What are you talking about? Are you claiming that the average adult is a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:58 PM
15

Most of us fall into the category of being average, that's why it's called "average". And most of us are having sex and relationships. So simply being average isn't the problem. So there must be something(s) you're doing, or not doing, that are making it difficult for you to have success. I'd suggest finding out what those issues are and working on improving them. You might start with stopping putting yourself in some arbitrary category like, "bottom 80%", "average", or whatever. That's a mindse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:17 AM
4

It's only a problem if it's taking away from more important parts of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:47 AM
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I think your taking away the wrong message. I'm not advocating for prostitution, or trying to change her position on it. Everyone is entitled to their own deal-breakers, that they don't need to justify. Just don't say it doesn't matter to you, when it actually does matter. It can be applied to any subject. Just as a thought experiment, let's amend the vegan analogy, because you're arguing incompatibility of different life-visions; Let's say that she said she was fine with meat eaters, but if a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:05 AM
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Ok. I don't disagree, but that's beside the point. The point is, if you truly don't see that there's anything wrong with it (as the OP of this thread said she didn't), why would it be a deal-breaker? Doesn't the simple fact that she views it as a deal-breaker mean that for her there is something unacceptable to her about it? Let's say the thread OP was vegan, and she said "There's nothing wrong with eating meat. But if I find out a guy I'm dating eats meat, that's a deal-breaker." You would say …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:20 AM
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Thats a ridiculous argument. Anyone who thinks using an escort is buying a woman's body, is either completely delusional, or a psychopath. You're not paying for her body, you're paying for her time, her labor, and her consent. Barring all the dark-sides of the sex work industry, how is it any different than buying services from a masseuse? Both are getting paid to give the customer pleasure through physical contact. Just with different methods, and on different areas of the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:47 AM
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I've never been with a prostitute, and have no issue with those that have, but just to play devil's advocate for a minute; If you honestly believe there's no shame and nothing wrong with hiring sex workers, why is it a dealbreaker for you? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? By rejecting a guy because he has done it, aren't you indirectly saying that there IS something wrong with doing it? Let's say hypothetically, that you met your perfect match (whatever that is), and everything about him and your …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:32 AM
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I (M) can, and have. But I find one without the other to be uninteresting immediately after it's over, and unfulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:09 AM
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The only guys who care about a woman's n-count are the ones who are insecure about their own experience, or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:26 AM
1

Intramural co-ed sports leagues are a goldmine for meeting people. If you're in the casual level leagues, nobody's really competing hard. It's basically just an excuse to do the after-game hangout at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:34 AM
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All types of places. Some through friends, some through activities i was involved in, others randomly at bars, etc. I never go out with the intention of attracting anyone, so there's nothing to struggle with. I go out to spend time with friends, or if I go to a bar alone, just to relax and unwind. Now and then, I'll strike up a conversation with a woman, not with any intent, just to have a conversation. Wherever it goes, is wherever it goes. If a woman is interested in you, it's not really that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:35 PM
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5'7"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:46 PM
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Sounds to me like you don't need any help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:49 AM
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That's what happens when your only dating experience begins and ends with OLD, where the only way to select partners is to see their "stats" on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:18 AM
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There's validity to this. I would bet that if I asked every single girl, in over 20 years of dating, that I've dated, hooked up with, etc., to pick a height that they want their guy to be, they would all say 6ft, blah, blah,... but I'm below average height, and it was never an issue for however long we had a relationship. So what's more likely? That I'm some sort of great Casanova, that can get women to drop all their requirements for me? Or that it probably doesn't matter nearly as much as plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:03 AM
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The better question is, if you're not having any success at all, why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:49 PM
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I can only go off my own experience. I'm not tall, not rich, not famous, not very good looking, and not white. Given those traits, according to the pill-truthers, I should be a kiss-less virgin, destined to a life of celibacy and loneliness. But that hasn't been true at all. I'm sharing some of my own experience, not to brag or as some kind of flex. But to illustrate my greater point. I've had all kinds of relationships with all kinds of women; long-term, short-term, casual, fwb, etc. I've been …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:58 AM
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Blamed by who? The only people that know why a relationship fails are the people that were actually in it. For example, if what you want is a guy that treats you well, but you date a guy that you know is an asshole, it's not your standard that's the problem. It's that you didn't adhere to it yourself. The standards that actually matter in a relationship, can't be quantified on a dating profile. I.e., Knowing that a guy is over 6ft tall, and makes $100k+ a year, shares your interest in fitness an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:10 PM
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Because offline, lowering my standards isn't necessary. It's the automatic filtering that's the issue. So it doesn't matter how well the app is constructed and targeted for long-term relationships or whatever. It would never be useful to me, because I'm removed from the game before it even starts. I'm not knocking OLD, for a certain segment of men, it works great. I just know that given my own traits, it doesn't work for me. When I meet women in person, I can leverage the qualities I have that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:45 PM
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No. I can only speak from my male perspective, but dating apps are only benecial to men who fit certain standards in criteria, such as height, income, age, etc... I check off virtually none of the boxes that would give me access to the dating pool that interests me. So before a woman even got to see my profile, I would be filtered out of contention. For me, and guys like me, it's a losing proposition. I've had a fair amount of success meeting and dating women from more traditional, in-person met…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:22 AM
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Sounds like you need to have a candid discussion with her regarding your respective needs when it comes to sex. Do yourself and her a favor and just be 100% honest. Sexual compatibility is an important issue in a relationship. So, if you guys just aren't on the same page with that, it's better to know that now, than to let that build up and spill over into other aspects of your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:28 AM
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It's simple, we (men) all want to eat steak, but if we're hungry, we're not going to turn down ground beef. The difference b/w men and women is that women (attractive ones, at least) have the option of holding out until they get a steak of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:40 PM
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It's complete disrespect. Consider this: Let's say you and I know each other, maybe not super well but enough that we've exchanged personal contact information. Then let's say we're both walking down the street in opposite directions and you stop in front of me and say hello or whatever, and I just looked at you, didn't respond or even speak, and then just kept walking without so much as a nod or a wave. I just acted like you weren't there. You would think I was an asshole to treat you like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:44 AM
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What do you gain from saying anything? Mind your own business and keep your mouth shut. Their relationship is none of your concern. Why insert yourself into a situation that has nothing to do with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:41 AM
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Men who don't meet the "golden criteria" should just not OLD. They'll just be met with a lot of disappointment. Which can be very damaging to a man, especially if they're young. I have had plenty of success dating out in the real world but almost none through OLD. And while I have no real way to verify this, I would bet that the main reason for that is because I'm filtered out of the criteria the majority of women set for their matches. I'm not white, not tall, and not rich. And while I'm not ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:48 AM
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Gtfoh with that. I have no issue with waiting several dates for a woman to have sex, but 2-3 months?! That's absurd! One of the main reasons to date someone is because you both are sexually attracted to each other, to purposefully deny yourselves of the very reason your seeing other in the first place makes no sense whatsoever. That's like going to restaurant, and seeing how long you can look and smell at the food w/o eating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:21 PM
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One of my favorite lifehacks is to get the women I date to buy my clothes. To whonever I'm dating/seeing at the time, if they tell me that they're going shopping, which women tend to do much more often than men, I'll just say something like "Hey, if you're already going to the mall, I need some new shirts (or whatever), go ahead and pick me up whatever you think I'll like or look good, and I'll give you money for it later." It's a perfect move. She gets to shop, play dress-up, and make her guy l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:07 AM
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For them it's not even that wouldn't be enough. The girl would also have to a virgin, but put on a pornstar performance in bed, have multiple orgasms at his slightest touch, think he's the most amazing man on earth, never think any other man is good-looking or charming, and go Dutch on all their dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:39 AM
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I pay for all my dates, and I'm happy to do so, even if I know there won't be a second date. And, no, I don't have any expectation of getting laid, simply because I picked up a tab. Any guy who thinks springing for a date gives him an automatic pass for sex is an idiot. But to answer your question, if a girl took me on a date, and paid for dinner, I wouldn't be compelled to sleep with her, just because she paid. That being said, if I go on a date with a woman, it's assumed that we're already att…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:01 AM
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I'm guessing you're still very young, and you're in situations where you have to see the same people for long periods of time, like a class setting. That changes when you're older, unless you work with them, you might see them once, then not again for months, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:51 AM
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A month or two?! Nobody has that kind of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:01 AM
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I don't think it's impossible for men and women to be friends, I just know that I have difficulty being strictly friends with a woman I find attractive. But also, it depends on what definition or level of friendship we're talking about. I have plenty of female, let's call them "good acquaintances" (GA's for short), but I have no female "friends". With "GA's", we can talk, hang out, even help each other out on occasion, but let's say for example, I died. I wouldn't expect any of these GA's to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:43 AM
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Why is her previous partners dick size relationship ending information?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:12 AM
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No, cars are definitely not all the same. To people who would notice, driving a "normal" car vs a luxury/exotic car is like the difference between sitting on a wooden folding chair, and sitting in a posh recliner. They just feel completely different. One is just there, and the other gives you an entire experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:24 PM
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Having sex with a really hot woman after mostly being with normal/average women is like owning a Toyota Corolla, but then getting to borrow a Ferrari for a week. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a Corolla. It's dependable, looks decent, reasonably comfortable, and gets you from point A to B with no problems. It's everything a car needs to be. But after spending a week in that Ferrari, it's really hard to be happy driving that Toyota again. Edit, to avoid responding to multiple people: I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:58 AM
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What you "pill" truthers have convinced yourselves of is really pathetic. You've turned relationships into some idiotic game of statistics. Good luck with that. You must be an absolute joy to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:46 PM
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This is so stupid. Do you love the girl or not? Does she love you? Do you trust her or don't you? Is your life better being with her than without? Those are the questions that matter. All the rest of this nonsense is bullshit. Now if you're at the point in a relationship where marriage is on the table, then you can go over things like that actually will affect your marriage, like finances, medical issues, job history, whatever.. but the number of penises she's touched before she knew you? The an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:07 PM
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There's your problem. You're trying to get advice on your relationships from people who have nothing to do with it. Trust yourself, and more importantly, trust your partner. But remember, sex. As with anything else has to feel right for both of you. Not just because you're ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:25 AM
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Why does this question get asked so often? It's really not that complicated. The only right time to do it when it feels right for both of you. That could be the third date, the first, the tenth... or it could even be before any dates even happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:18 AM
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If the number was absurd, I'd raise an eyebrow for sure, but the question i need to ask myself is, do I care more about being with her or about my own insecurities? If what I care about is being with her, then why would what she did before we even met matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:03 PM
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They're comparable in that both things are personal information that nobody is entitled to know. It doesn't pose any threat to me and no one's hiding anything. As I've mentioned several times, one, I don't even know how many women I've been with in the past 25 years. And two, it has nothing to do with her. This obsession with what others have done before you even met them is lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:34 PM
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No one's offended. Everyone is welcome to ask, and I'm free to not answer. And I am upfront about it by setting those personal boundaries. There's a huge difference between hiding something and not sharing private information. I'd treat it the same as if she asked what my checking account number is. So if finding out how many women have touched my penis in the last 25 years is a make or break question for her. Then she's probably an insecure lunatic, that I'm better off without.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:14 PM
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It's not evasive at all. It's a range that I know is true. I've been sexually active for more than 25 years. Do you think I'm going to go through my mental rolodex of the last quarter century to give her a specific answer to a question she has no business asking in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:49 PM
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How am I hiding or evading? I honestly don't know my body count, and have no interest in figuring it out. And I also have no interest or reason to ask her hers. It's none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:41 PM
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I have never, and will never ask what a woman's body count is. I don't care because It's none of my business, and it affects my life 0%. For the exact same reasons, I'll never tell her mine. Plus I don't even know, and am not interested in doing the mental exercise to figure it out. If she presses, I'll never be more specific than; more than 10, less than 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:31 PM
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Who told you this bullshit? First of all, there are no cheat codes. Second, tattoos will only make you look better to people who already like tattoos to begin with. They'll turn off those who don't, and the people who don't care, won't. But they're not gonna magically make you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:12 PM
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You don't need shoes to run a marathon either, but I'd rather not do it without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:24 PM
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I'm not into dominance, but I do like passionate aggression from time to time, and by that mean firm touching/grabbing, maybe some light hair-pulling if she's into it. But I draw the line at anything that feels like violence or degrading behavior. So, I have no interest in choking, slapping, spitting on, etc. That being said, I've been with multiple women who do actually enjoy rough sex. While it's not my thing, I view my sex role as that of a facilitator. So if she needs me to apply pressure to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:51 AM
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Can it work? Sure. But the success rate is low, even under the best circumstances. In my experience, the most successful approaches are the ones that don't seem like an approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:37 PM
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Women actually giving a shit about all these gripes. At the end of the day, they're going to be attracted to whomever they're attracted to, and all this bitching about how unfair it is doesn't mean shit. The game's not going to change for you, so you need to change for it. So if you hate the way the game works, stop playing. But don't refuse to adjust for it, then bitch when it doesn't go the way you wish it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:05 PM
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It seems like this question gets asked about once a week around here... but whatever, I'll bite. I'm a guy that's been dating for decades now, and I almost always pay for the first few dates and these are the reasons why, in no particular order: As a man, 9 times out of 10, I'm the one asking the woman out. The way I see it, if I'm the one asking, it's my responsibility to pay. How would you feel if someone asked you for your time and company and expected you to pay for it? Yes, you're absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:56 PM
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I prefer a mix of both, kind of like me. I like a woman who is comfortable in her own skin, social, and can handle herself confidently in most situations, but also has no need or desire to be the center of attention. A woman that's too introverted is difficult to bring around social settings. You spend the whole time that you both should be enjoying yourself worrying if they're ok. A woman that's too extroverted, that needs attention all the time, is just as difficult to be with, for obvious rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:26 AM
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I've always been on the extroverted side, so I didn't need to learn to socialize, I just needed to learn how to do it effectively. These are just a couple things I did, off the top of my head: I studied movie characters who most everyone would consider cool, funny, or charismatic. Characters like James Bond, Tony Stark, etc. Or actors like Paul Newman, George Clooney, Robert Redford, etc.. I wasn't trying to copy them, but moreover figure out what it was about their personalities that make peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:02 PM
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Because it's not mutually exclusive. To use a baseball analogy, if you're batting .350 in the minors, chances are you're gonna bat a lot lower in the majors. Doesn't mean you can't possibly hit major league level pitching, but it's just a lot more difficult. It's the same with anything, your chances of success will obviously be lower when the challenges are more difficult. One does not exclude the possibility of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:56 AM
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Girl on the right, no question. I'm a grown man. I don't need anyone to cook or clean for me, but more important than that, I don't find the girl on the left attractive. What matters is which girl makes me happy. If you're not attracted to your partner, neither of you will be happy. I'm not going to not be with someone I like because of what they "might" do. If the girl on the right cheats then she's gone, and I go out and find another girl I like. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:45 PM
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ISU grad? Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:25 AM
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No. John should act like a grown man and make his own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:12 PM
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While I don't disagree that the sentiment is rampant and harmful to both men and women, it's completely different in terms of scope for each sex. Men who have the view that "all women are bad", more often than not, have a hard time with dating and relationships with women in general. Whereas, for a woman, holding the view that "all men are bad", doesn't really make it harder for her to date and find sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:48 AM
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If you're not sure if she's flirting or not, she isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:28 AM
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Men shouldn't take advice on attracting women from women, but should at least consider women's opinions when it comes to actually dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:17 AM
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Women are responsible for communicating to the man what it is she needs to achieve an orgasm, whether that's certain techniques, more foreplay, whatever. Men are responsible for carrying that out. But no amount of direction, or communication is going to help, if the man lacks self-control or stamina. E.g., if it takes 15 minutes of sex for her to get off, but you can only last 2 minutes, you are in fact, bad in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:29 PM
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If you choose to have that person as your best friend, the person with the worst judgement in this situation is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:51 PM
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Not true. No matter how well intentioned, women have no idea what it's like to be on the demand side of the dating equation. If you want advice on getting better at fishing, you don't ask the fish, you ask a successful fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:01 PM
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My interpretation is that if a woman is predisposed to promiscuity, trying to make her monogamous is a futile enterprise. Which I don't disagree with, as the saying goes, "you can't turn an outside cat, into an inside one". At the same time though, that attitude is dismissing the possibility that people can, and often do, change. In my 20's, I had no interest in a serious, long-term, monogamous relationship. But now that I'm older, sleeping around holds less and less appeal to me. I value the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:44 PM
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Typically, raw physucal attraction will fade over time, but at the same time, the need for that same level of purely physical attraction fades as well. If after a significant amount of time, the only thing keeping your relationship together is that you think the ither person is "hot" or whatever, it's not a good relationship to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:33 AM
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BS. If a woman is stringing you along, it's because she doesn't really want to fuck you. If a girl is into you, unless she's got separate hang ups about sex in general, she's going to sleep with you as soon as possible. Also, I'm assuming the OP is young, because 16-21 is NOT the most desirable age range. At least not for grown, adult men. Anyone under 21 is almost a child still. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:13 AM
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And I'll guarantee that each one of those competitors will tell you that training with the video game will never be the same as actually driving the car.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:54 PM
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Masturbation and foreplay activities are helpful for sure, but they're definitely not nearly enough to substitute for actual intercourse. Actual sex is much different, and is also different with each person you have sex with. You can train car racing on a video game all you like, but it's definitely not going to substitute for driving an actual car.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:38 AM
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It's not a red flag, but it's somewhat of a turn off. I say that because the best sex is when both parties are getting the things they want. The problem with virgins or inexperienced women is that they almost never know what they want. That takes experience and trying new things and finding out what works for you, and what doesn't. While sex isn't everything in a relationship, sexual compatibility is important, and it's hard to know if you're compatible with someone if they don't know themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:21 AM
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No I didn't. I addressed money, like I said, if money is what is keeping your girl attracted to you, you're not dating her, you're just renting her. Now that might be enough for some guys, but this guy seems to be looking for an actual relationship, not a disposable one. As for social standing, it's already implied in having charm. If a guy is highly charming, he's almost guaranteed to have good social standing, with both men and women. Charming people draw others to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:00 AM
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There's nothing wrong with you, you've just spent most of your life thinking you knew how the game was played, and you're finding out the hard way that you don't. Almost all men have experienced this at one point or another. But the good thing is that being better socially with women is a skill, like any other. With the right practice you'll eventually get better at it. You're an intelligent guy who obviously isn't afraid of working hard to achieve your goals. You just have to treat this the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:43 PM
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I'm not charming but I have a nice personality I'm sure you do, but so does most everyone else. The vast majority of people have nice, decent personalities. Making guy friends is incredibly easy, as men aren't potentially interested in dating you, and you're not interested in dating them. So the stakes are much lower. Simply not being an overt asshole is enough to be friends with another guy. Whereas women are screening you to potentially be part of their most private, intimate, and vulnerable s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:41 PM
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Perhaps you're misunderstanding. The gentleman I was replying to's main gripe is that because he's simply "average" looking, even though he checks the boxes of smart, driven, and successful, he hasn't had much success. My point was, if he's just average in the looks department, he needs to increase his charm level. There's not a lot you can do to change your looks, but you can do a lot to improve how charming and interesting people find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:37 PM
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Not at all. I'm both short and Asian, and still have a healthy datiing life. So I don't know what you're talking about. Despite what reddit would have you believe, none of those things are death sentences when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:29 AM
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Not knowing you personally, I'm making quite a few assumptions. That being said, I think your frustrations with dating are likely a bit misguided. You're driven, intelligent, and successful. Those are amazing qualities, but, those qualities make you a better, more well-rounded person, they aren't the ones that will get you success in the dating world. Looks AND charm. If you have those two things, you don't need much else. If you don't have them both, it doesn't matter what else you have. And if…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:43 AM
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Why put all these restrictions on love in the first place? Does your partner make you happy? Do they respect you as a person? Is your life better with this person in it, than without? If the answer is yes to all of those questions, than wtf does it matter if they're not a virgin, or if they watch porn?! If you're willing to miss out on all the happiness and joy that being in a good relationship can bring, simply because someone watched other people having sex on a screen, or because they fulfill…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:50 AM
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No one with any sense thinks that it will. But legalizing it, in many ways normalizes it. That way guys who for whatever reason have trouble participating in "normal" dating, can at the very least experience some form of sexual intimacy in a safe, clean environment without worrying about getting in legal trouble and to some extent can avoid the social stigma of being a "John". Also, those troubled men can experience sex and learn a bit about what it's like in a way that watching porn and/or mast…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:50 AM
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Even that is thinking way too far ahead. An approach is just initiating a conversation. If she's not into it, the whole interaction can be over in 30 seconds. If as a woman, it's possible for you to get "used" in 30 seconds, approaching men is the least of your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:45 PM
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Which is exactly the point, if she approached and you guys ended up going home together, if she slept with you w/o first being clear on what the parameters of the relationship are, then you never called her afterward, that's not her getting used. That's just poor communication of what her expectations were before she consented to having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:58 PM
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Agreed, but that's beside the point. Even if a woman approaches, there's still a whole lot of things that need to happen after the initial approach to turn it into a situation where she can be "used". It's the steps in between that matter, not simply the fact that she was the one who approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:56 PM
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Personally, I don't care what a woman's total body count is nearly as much as I care about the time between bodies. If she's had 20 partners in the last 10 years, no big deal. If she's had 20 partners in the last 10 weeks, that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:18 PM
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That's dumb. All an approach is, is introducing yourself, making a bit of conversation, and possibly flirting or indicating non-platonic interest. It's not an invitation to fuck. If the girl made it one, then that's on her, and she should be more discerning about the guys she hops into bed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:44 PM
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That's stupid. If you're going to get used by a guy, it has nothing to do with if you approached first or not. That guy is just an @$$hole, and you either didn't recognize or looked over the signs until you realized it was you who got used.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:49 PM
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As with most everything in life, it's not 100%, but in my experience/observation, it's very rare for men and women to be strictly platonic friends who spend time together significantly outside of a mixed, group setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:58 PM
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If by attractive, you mean how likely you are to be put on a magazine cover, then yes. OLD heavily favors those men who fit the category of "conventionally" attractive. This makes absolute sense to men, as that is how we judge women's attractiveness. For women though, for the most part, a man's pure looks is only a part of the "equation" of finding a man attractive, and how large or small that part plays varies not only from woman to woman, but from time to time. Now you mighy dismiss this and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:43 AM
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They can, and do. It's just that the qualities that make someone a good guy, often are not accompanied with the qualities that make a guy "exciting". This isn't to say that a guy has to be an @$$hole to be exciting, but the stereotypical "good guy" tends to be less adventurous, less willing to take risks, do the kinds of actions that women find initially attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:10 AM
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When a woman say she doesn't want a man who is "boring", she doesn't mean she's looking for a guy who's partying 24/7 or taking her bungee jumping every weekend. What she means is that she wants a guy who can make even mundane things and activities interesting and fun. She wants a guy who has things to talk about and has experiences to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:56 PM
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The only true way to test this hypothesis would have been to compare the children those men had, if any, when they were younger to the ones they had later in life, with the same mother. Even then, you'd need to have a significant enough sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 01:44 AM
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This study is somewhat meaningless w/o assessing the attractiveness of the fathers first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 01:00 AM
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You are the problem here. It's not because you're not "alpha" enough, and it's not because you don't meet some arbitrary requirements. It's because you think that there's some magic attraction checklist that if you check all the boxes, women will just come flocking. That's just not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:28 AM
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You're just using this story to support your narrative. Nobody has any idea what Depp's relationship was with Paradis. They were together for a very long time, and maybe just had grown apart. It happens all the time. This is Johnny Depp, one of the most famous and desirable actors in Hollywood. He had his choice of almost unlimited amounts of hot young women. He didn't need to jump at an opportunity. His opportunities were already endless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:13 PM
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It's usually, but not always hot girl with an unattractive man. My initial thoughts about it depend on what I perceive to be the age difference b/w them. If the unattractive man is clearly much older than the girl, I tend to think that it's likely a sugar-daddy type relationship. If they seem relatively close in age, I usually wonder what the guy's personality is like that he could attract such an attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:24 AM
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There's nothing "wrong" with them, but for me and the VAST majority of people in western culture, being fat is just not attractive, for men or women. For a society where the initial value placed on women (and men to a lesser extent) is their attractiveness, fat women are going to have a much more difficult time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:38 PM
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I don't think it's one or the other, you can do both. When I go out, it's to spend time with friends and socialize, but if we're out and an opportunity presents itself, I'll take a shot at hooking up. Plus it's always better to have your friends around when chatting up a woman. I find it makes women more comfortable, as they rarely go out alone, and doesn't give off the creepy guy on the prowl vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 05:14 PM
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All men want to be good, but a lot of men don't care to find out if they actually are. Tbf, while getting a man off is pretty straightforward, what turns a woman on, and gets her off can vary widely from woman to woman, and even from the same woman at different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 09:31 AM
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I don't think it has to be one or the other. You can be happy being single, and you can be happy in relationships. You can also be unhappy in either. It's just a matter of which one works better for you at the time, and the relationship(s) you're in. It's better to be happy single than unhappy in a relationship. Personally, though I have no problem being single, and I definitely appreciate the freedom as a single person, I much prefer to be in relationships. I like having someone specific to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:19 AM
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Have you been in relationships? If so, you'd already know for yourself that it's almost never just one person's fault. Sure there are cases of things like infidelity, where one person didn't do anything wrong, and their partner is just a cheating POS. But I'd say those cases are few and far between. The problem with the internet is that it's designed to make everything black and white. You're on one side or the other. Whereas real life is almost always shades of gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:59 AM
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Sounds like you're just picking the wrong people to date. Dating is difficult. There's no denying that, but it's on you to do whatever's necessary to make sure you're not wasting time on women who aren't worth it. Whether that's doing a little bit more vetting/testing, or just being more selective, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:40 AM
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Yeah. I've dated lots of them. Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:43 AM
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There's no way to teach men how to attract women, because all women are different and have different things that make them attracted to men. The only universal attractors of women are wealth, fame, and/or status. Whereas for women the only thing you have to do to attract men is to not be ugly. As long as you're pretty, men will find you attractive. Maybe not always the kind of men you want, but if you're good looking, men will make it known they are attracted to you. We don't really care about y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:31 AM
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Who are these men that don't care about their partners pleasure? It's practically the only thing that I care about with any partner, casual or not. The way I see it, being a man, I'm almost 100% sure I'm going to have an orgasm from sex. So that's not an accomplishment. But it is an accomplishment to give my partner great sexual pleasure, if not an orgasm. I like knowing that even if I never see her again, she'll at least have a fond memory of the time we had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:01 PM
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Yes I would, and I have. I'm not tall. It's obvious, and dating shorter women isn't going to hide it. The way I see it, if doesn't bother her, why should I let it bother me? I wish I was taller, but I'm not, and there's nothing I can do about it. So why spend time and energy worrying about it? She obviously knew our height difference before we dated and got over it. It would just be stupid to deprive myself of a potentially great relationship because of my own insecurity about something I have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:04 PM
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It's no different than the PUA gurus of 10-15 years ago. While most of their stuff was cheesey pseudo-psychology nonsense, they did succeed in perhaps the most important thing, getting guys to take action. Fear of rejection is what holds most guys from even trying, much less having a chance at succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:49 AM
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Assuming all parties involved are safe and practicing proper contraception, I don't see anything wrong with it. But only with all partes having a full and honest understanding of what the situation is. If everyone involved is on the same page that it's simply for the sake of physical pleasure and enjoyment, what's the harm? The problem is when sex is used as a proxy for something else. If it's manipulative, or being used as a substitute, compensation, or validation for some other mental/emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 04:57 AM
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There is no debating with 'pill people'. They refuse to accept any other perspective but their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 11:22 AM
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Amazing analysis. You should be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:19 AM
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Not true. I'm 40 and still date women still in their 20's who don't expect to be taken to "fancy/nice" places. We'll go to those now and then, but it's a treat, not expected. As for going Dutch, that all depends on how long the relationship has been going for. In the beginning, I pay for the majority of dates. But as the relationship gets more established, there's a lot of trading off. I volunteer to pay for the more expensive dates, as I'm in a better position to afford it. But I've dated young…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:27 AM
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That theory sounds like it would make sense, but if you think about it, it doesn't. It goes against supply & demand. Drug dealers don't have to advertise to customers or convince people to buy drugs. The product sells itself. Same thing for women, they control the supply, so why should they go out of their way to sell it, when there is an unending line of customers of which she can choose from willing to pay almost any price she feels is appropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:57 PM
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I'm convinced that it's a generational thing, not limited to just women. I'm likely a bit older than the average participant in this sub, and I date women of varying ages, but most often they're younger. From my experience, people from younger generations will avoid any situation that might cause them to feel any discomfort or awkwardness, and the proliferation of smartphone communication in place of voice and in-person interaction, makes it exponentially easier to ignore. Personally I find ghos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:25 PM
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Doesn't matter to me, but any future kids are taking my name. That's non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:21 AM
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Sounds great, but it's entirely against human nature, so it'll never happen. Trying to rage against nature is futile and a waste of everyone's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 08:52 AM
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If you're going to look at it only through the bubble of OLD and social media, than maybe that's a reasonable assessment. But, real life doesn't adhere to standards. I've met many women who've dicussed their preferences and said things like, "I only date guys over 6ft", or "I only like white (or insert ethnicity) guys", "He needs to be rich", etc. Only to end up dating me, while I'm well under 6ft, ethnic, and definitely not rich. Now this isn't to say I'm some sort of ladies man or anything lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 09:18 PM
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Is it necessary these days to be in a relationship? No. But to many, it's desirable. Single life is fun and all, but personally, I like being in relationships much more. I want to spend time with my SO. I want to share experiences with someone I care about. If you think that 70% of all men are beneath you, then perhaps that's a reason why you haven't found relationships worthwhile. While I'm sure you've been absolutely perfect in all of your relationships, and they haven't worked out because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:45 AM
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How did you make the leap that the preferences are caused by porn? It seems you're operating on a bunch of assumptions about what is attractive. Generally, it boils down to proportions and symmetry. Now personal preferences, culture, etc swing that towards one side or the other. But in general, women considered attractive before would probably still be considered so today if their looks were modernized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 09:41 PM
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Agreed. Sure, hooking up and fwb relationships are fun. But I'm convinced that fundamentally, by nature I'm monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 07:35 AM
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I have no science to back this up, but I think it all depends on who ends the relationship. Men may tend to take a longer time initially to commit, but once they do, their commitment runs deep. If men decide to end the relationship, it's usually sudden and tends to be done more abruptly. From my experience, women on the other hand, tend to have already mentally/emotionally ended the relationship long before actually breaking it off. So when they do end it, it's not nearly as much as an emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:13 PM
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People who are rude to or dismissive of waitstaff. If I go out with a girl and she's mean or condescending towards our server or any of the staff, the date's over on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:26 PM
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I don't really care enough to debate what makes your area so great, but the principles of supply and demand dictate that the reason your area is so inexpensive is because not many people want to live there. Personally, I'd rather get a higher paying job so I can live somewhere I actually like. But, to each, their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:18 AM
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I doubt that very much. I don't know where you're at, but if they sell steaks for $20, I'm willing to bet it's not a very good steak.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:08 AM
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Easy. Let's say you go to a nice steakhouse. A good steak is about $50-$60 apiece. Throw in a couple appetizers and a few cocktails or wine, then a standard tip on top of it all, and you're easily looking at $200. I'm not advocating spending that kind of money on a first date, but it's nice to treat yourself every now and then. However, if you can't afford to go to those kinds of places, just don't pick them for your dates. If the only tool you have to impress women is money, then don't be surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:11 AM
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Dave Chappelle talks about this very debate in a great old bit: https://youtu.be/fL-1kHxsavI.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:08 PM
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She sucks for offering to split and then being shitty about it, when he accepted. No argument there. So this girl probably isn't a keeper to begin with, so good on him for dodging a bullet. But in general, I'm with you on this man. Just pay for the fucking meal. Who cares?! If you can't afford to take a girl out, don't go on dates. Stick to finding fwb's, or hookups, or whatever so you don't run into that situation. The way I look at it, it all evens out in the end, in the beginning of dating th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:41 PM
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That's a ridiculous argument. We're not talking about a girl who never wants to have sex. The point of the discussion is following some arbitrary number of dates rule. If she never wants to have sex, then obviously you're not compatible, and staying in the relationship is bad for both parties. But if you leave an otherwise good relationship because it's been X number of dates and you haven't had sex yet, then yes, it's clear that sex is more important to you than the actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:40 AM
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How can anyone "force" a man into a relationship? Perhaps you should ask yourself what you're in this relationship for in the first place. Is it for the girl, or is it for sex? Because if you're there for the girl, what does it matter if it's one date, or three, or ten? But it's for the sex, there's much easier ways to get that w/o having to go on any dates at all. Find a f-buddy, or if you can't find that, hire a prostitute. That way you get what you're really after without having to deal with …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:34 PM
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Only a fool puts a time ultimatum on sex. Sometimes it takes a few dates, sometimes it happens before the first date, and sometimes it doesn't happen at all. Each relationship works at its own pace. A man who is good with women knows how to feel the relationship out, and can at least instinctually know if the woman is ready to move to the level of having sex. Additionally, any guy who expects to have sex with a woman simply because it's date number three, is not only an idiot, but also a complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:11 PM
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I'm with you on ditching OLD. It's a great way to get access to dating partners, but a terrible way to select them. If I depended on OLD to meet women, I'd have never gone on a single date in my life. I'm of the belief that the dependence on it is a generational one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:01 PM
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Testosterone. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:09 AM
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Just don't ask. It's none of your business and you really don't want to know. If you're so insecure that you absolutely need to ask, it doesn't matter what the number is, it's going to be too much for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:32 PM
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Again, try reading the context instead of just the parts you don't like hearing. If you read internet chatter at all, you know that the perception is that Asian men are the most overlooked, and ignored demographic when it comes to dating, especially by Asian women! In no way did I agree or make any judgement on whether the validity of that perception. I simply pointed out that the perception exists. You obviously know it does because you're accusing me of agreeing with and perpetuating it. Now i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:06 PM
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Ok genius. Since you seem to know me so well, what was the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:45 PM
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I never said they weren't. If you actually read what I wrote instead of locking onto the parts that offend your sensibilities, you'd understand that I was referring to the "perception" among internet circles regarding the dating viability of Asian men. Secondly, you know nothing about my preferences for dating. The last few women I've dated/had relationships with have been Latina, Filipino, Black/mixed, white, and others. So before you go off the handle calling people a lie and accusing them of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:35 PM
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In my own family, my oldest sister married a black man. My parents were furious. My mother finally accepted it, but until my nephew was born, my father refused to speak to her. He even boycotted her wedding. Now keep in mind my now BIL is a highly educated, very successful attorney, not to mention a great guy who has always treated my sister well. But to my dad, it didn't matter, he would have rather her date a loser asian/white man. Now thankfully, those types of attitudes are definitely changi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:01 PM
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In many ways, absolutely. How could it not? Racial dynamics play a significant part in all of our daily lives. It stands to reason that it would affect dating as well. For one, there are cultural factors that have to be accounted for when choosing partners. I'm not sure how much you know about Asians, but to say that culturally, they have racist tendencies is an understatement. Over the years I've dated women of all types of backgrounds. That being said, if for example, I happen to start dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:19 AM
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I feel like the question is too broad in scope. What aspects of it are you wanting to know about? (Asian (m), btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:44 AM
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Welcome to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:16 AM
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What would be more productive would be if you stop thinking of people in binary ways, and start treating each person as an individual with their own needs, motivations, and desires. If you get to know a woman, and you see that her primary motivation is financial, then behave accordingly. Do most women prefer their men to be the primary breadwinners? Sure, statistically that may be true, but you're not dating a statistic. You're dating the woman right in front of you, so why not figure out what s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:35 AM
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I agree with your sentiment, but I think "shallow" might be the wrong word. It's not that looks/money/status aren't important to women, they're just not the beginning and end of everything, the way being "hot" is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:09 PM
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I'd say the odds aren't bad. Which is exactly my point. There are millions of single women out there. So even if just one percent of those millions find you potentially attractive, that's almost 40k people! So unless you live in a cave, just by regularly going out and meeting people, chances are you'll find one randomly. Your chances increase significantly if you actively seek out others with common interests, and even moreso when you factor in women who are actively looking for men. Now they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:58 PM
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Statistically, it's virtually guaranteed. Take the US for example, there are approx. 36 million women between the ages of 18-34. Even if only 10% of them are unnarried/single, that's still 3.6 million available women. Are you suggesting that not even one out 3.6 million people is going to find you at least a little attractive?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:28 PM
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You talk about seduction like the seduced party has no choice in the matter. That's not how it works. Women don't have some magical power over men. To be seduced by a woman, a man already has to have at least some level of sexual attraction to her . If you really find a woman unattractive (aesthetically/mentally/whatever), there is no set of "moves" a woman can perform that are going to suddenly change that. Women are just exponentially more likely to succeed in seducing a man, because for men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 10:56 AM
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A big bank account Fame Talent Status And often times: A sense of danger These things alone or in combination can override purely physical attributes. Case(s) in point, Lil' Wayne, imo, is one of the ugliest men I've ever seen, but I'm confident he's forgotten more ass then I'll ever see in 10 lifetimes, because he possesses to some degree, all of those attributes. War Machine (the former MMA fighter) is a convicted violent felon towards women, who is currently serving life in prison got married…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 09:50 AM
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I don't think you're wrong, but using a binary scale is probably an oversimplification. In my experience the way women are attracted to men is much more nuanced then a simple "hot or not". For example, using the 1-10 scale, a woman may feel like a guy has to be at least a 7 looks-wise to get her attention. But, at the same time, if he's only a 6 but he's got other attractive qualities, whatever those may be, she may be less rigid about if he makes the cut. If you're going to use a binary scale, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:42 PM
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The whole point is that we, as men, don't understand it. Because it makes no sense. Why?! What makes you think that your soooo special that this guy, who has been a shitty person essentially his whole life, is suddenly going to stop being shitty? And even if for some crazy reason you think that, why do you complain about him, when he's just being exactly the person who he was the day you met him? It's the scorpion and the frog. Furthermore, if you wanted a guy to behave "tamed", as you say, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:41 AM
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Just my theory, but I think this exists because of the contradictions that men see in a not insignificant amount of women. For example, if you were to poll women about what qualities attract them to a man, I'd be willing to bet that virtually none of them would say, they want a man who is, e.g. abusive, or a philanderer, or unintelligent, or any number of "negative" qualities. But at the same time, men see women with those kinds of guys all the time. As men, we're told all through our lives that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:47 PM
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I don't need a girl I date to be funny herself, but I couldn't date a girl who didn't have a good sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:21 PM
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Maybe you might want to work on editing this post. I can barely make out what you're trying to say. Assuming I understand your position, I'm going to say that you are correct, men and women can be friends in a completely platonic way. But, I would argue that it's rare, and it happens much less often than most people (women especially, attractive women even more so) think it does. However, before we can make that assessment, you need to define the parameters of what you would consider "friendship…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:36 PM
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I would propose that at least one of two things is happening here: One, perhaps you just haven't encountered the right guy who's under 6' tall. Case in point. I'm relatively short, but have dated women much taller than me and they all said they would never date a guy under X height. But, they did. Point is, attraction can he triggered by other things that substitute for a person's conscious standards. Or two, maybe you have been attracted to some men who are shorter, and whether consciously or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:59 PM
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There will never be a standardized agreement on this subject. Human preferences vary too wildly for that to be possible. But we as a culture, largely agree on physical attractiveness as evidenced by our celebrities. They obviously don't all look the same, but they do share similarities in terms of features, e.g. men typically have strong chins and/or jawlines, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:09 PM
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Sure. Why not? I can't see any logical reason why anyone would have a problem with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:40 AM
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It depends on the friend. If I met him and I had any reason to believe that he had any intentions towards my SO that were anything other than strictly platonic, then I would not be comfortable with any amount of communication b/w them. But, if he seemed genuinely not interested in my SO in any way and he was a good guy, then I guess it wouldn't bother me if they communicated or hung out from time to time. A lot of it would also depend on how she acted around said friend. If she did things like l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:17 PM
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I beg to differ. Those relationships rarely ever become close friends. Not saying you don't make casual friends and acquaintances all throughout your life, but not close, personal friendships. Studies show that it takes approximately 200+ hours of spending time with someone to develop deep friendships with people. Typically the only period in your life where you have that kind of time is in your youth, and when you're a young adult. After that, life gets in the way. People get married, have fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:46 PM
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What difference does that make? You're still giving out your personal info to someone who shouldn't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:18 PM
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Exactly my point. If you weren't interested, why are you giving these creeps your personal contact information? Throwing insults is never ok, but you are not absolved of some responsibility here. It's inevitable that some people are going to suck. That's just life. Instead of also sucking, albeit in a different way, perhaps the better strategy is to be a bit more discerning about whom you give out your personal information to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:54 PM
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I agree and sympathize. Men can act like complete morons when it comes to approaching or inviting a woman out. If someone is harassing you or just generally being belligerent after you politely decline, by all means, ignore them. But the point is, you first gave that person the respect to state your position and decline. You don't need to explain or defend yourself after that. In fact at the point, ignoring them is probably the right call. There is nothing to be gained by continuing to engage wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 11:07 PM
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Exactly, be an adult and have the balls to state your position. You don't need to explain anything beyond the first declination. If you hate the person that much, tell them to piss off and never contact you again. As I've said elsewhere, ignoring people is the equivalent of your boss firing you, but instead of telling you directly, they just keep you off the work schedule and hope you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 07:32 PM
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Do they though? Let's say you're right. That means that there are conceivably millions of women right now who are purposely being disrespectful, not just to mere men, but to men who they know well enough to have at some point given their number to, with full expectation that those men were going to use said number. I would hate to believe that's true. That would mean that our culture has devolved to such a degree that we're ok with purposely being shitty to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:29 PM
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Still not ok. If someone has your phone number, they're obviously something to you. Friend, colleague, acquaintance, or whatever and they deserve respect... Ignoring someone like they don't exist is treating them like they're nothing. If you don't respect them enough to respond to them when they communicate with you, they shouldn't be in your life at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:55 PM
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... “friendzoned” men actually want a relationship, not just sex. I wasn't talking about just sex. Sex is the given part of it. We always want a non-platonic relationship with women we're attracted to, and we know if we're attracted right away. We don't get romantically curious. The only thing we have to figure out is what kind of relationship and for how long. Towards some women, it's mostly sexual so maybe he's only interested in a fwb arrangement, or casual dating, whatever. In other cases we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:47 PM
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... it’s perfectly natural when you’re trying to navigate feelings Men almost never have to "navigate" our feelings. We already know. Either we're attracted to you romantically/sexually or we're not and we figure that out for ourselves almost immediately. Now that attraction can change over time, e.g., maybe after hanging out he thinks you're annoying or bitchy, or whatever, but we don't have to "figure it out" the way women seem to do. ​ ... every boyfriend I’ve ever had was a “friend first.” N…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:55 PM
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Maybe it's just because I'm from an older generation, but I find that kind of behavior extremely unattractive and disrespectful. Personally, I'd rather someone tell me directly to f' off, then to ignore me like I don't exist, or worse feed me some BS about how they were too busy to respond or they never saw the message. ​ First of all, really? You were too busy? You didn't have 15 seconds in your whole day to write "No thanks"? Or you didn't see the message during any of two thousand times you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:24 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with that. It's not that younger people don't know how to socialize, they just do it differently. Nobody likes the process of rejection. Obviously not the rejectee, but also the rejector. It's uncomfortable. Turning someone down makes you feel bad, even if you know it's the right decision for you. The difference is that women in their 30's and up, grew up learning how to do it face to face and got used to it. They're not afraid of the discomfort of it. Younger generations fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:07 PM
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I'm convinced that this is almost completely a generational issue. People who are currently in their 20's, especially lower 20's will do almost anything to avoid feeling uncomfortable, more specifically, feel uncomfortable in social situations. Thus, they'll avoid any kind of, for lack of a better word, confrontation, if they can help it. ​ I'm a male in my late 30's, so people of my generation grew up and learned to socialize without nearly the connectivity that younger generations are used to.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 06:05 AM
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It depends on what you mean by "easier". Smartphones, social networking, and dating apps have made it easier than ever to meet people you never would have encountered by traditional means like work, school, bars, etc. but at the same time it's made it extremely easy to filter potential dating partners out w/o ever having met them. For example, many couples I know tell the same story that they never thought they would end up with someone like their partner because he/she didn't fit certain criter…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:27 AM
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Isn't it funny how these guys, who have little to no experience with women, know what all women want and are like? Taking dating advice from these guys is the same as taking marriage advice from the Pope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:34 PM
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There is no single answer to this question. Everybody is different and do things for different reasons. To lump everyone together and think everyone has the same motivations is just lazy and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:26 AM
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Depends on the type of sex work. I've known and dated many women who are/were dancers at gentleman's clubs. For the most part they're no different than dating girls who work conventional jobs. They just work different hours and have some interesting/crazy stories. As for lying, some of them were fine with other people knowing, some kept it on the dl, and understandably so. As for more involved types, like escorts, etc., I think I know myself well enough to know that, as understanding as I'd try …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 04:37 AM
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If he hasn't penetrated a womans vagina with his penis and thrusted to the point of ejaculation, he is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 12:59 AM
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The longer you maintain your virginity, the more you'll limit your dating pool. Experienced women are less interested in an inexperienced man. At a certain point your options will be mostly women for whatever reason, are maintaining their own virginities. If you're able to attract women and have sex, it may be an avenue to explore. If for no other reason than to have your virginity not be an issue when you find someone you really want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:11 PM
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What is the fixation on dating/marrying a virgin anyway? Sex is a very important part of any healthy relationship. Wouldn't you want a girl who knows what they're doing, and knows what they like? Obviously no man wants to be with a "loose" woman, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to a woman who's perhaps had a few partners from previous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:11 AM
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You don't have to share your partners interests, but you have to be accepting of them. If she's passionate about something that you're not, and you have a condescending attitude towards it every time she brings it up, then she'll feel like you don't value her, or her feelings. That's where you'll end up diminishing attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 09:56 PM
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Is this even a real question? Yes. You are the asshole. If you touch a woman (or any person for that matter) and she doesn't reciprocate or encourage it in any way, she's NOT into it. Period. End of story. Furthermore, if you're touching a girl and she's completely not responding, how are you still pressing the issue?! It's like fondling someone in a coma. Does that sound sexy to you?! For whatever reason, sometimes women are afraid to outright reject a mans advances. Maybe they're afraid, or ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:41 AM
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I'm assuming from your question that you just started dating this woman and you've already had sex. Given that, why are you even thinking about marriage this early on?! It takes a very long time to know someone enough to decide if you want to marry them (I'd argue it takes a couple years). Are you really going to hold that against them if you've had a great relationship that whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:35 PM
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If a woman doesn't respond to you in a timely fashion, she's not interested. Period. Nobody is too busy to take 10 seconds to respond to a text, and what person do you know under the age of 35, does not have their phone within arms length of them at all times? It's not many. And if she is responding days later with just quick smiley faces a without interacting... she is also not interested. Like all people do, women prioritize their social interactions based on their level of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:24 AM
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