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Bro imagine if they put that much effort into something of actual value.
/r/MensRights15/08/24 06:47 PM
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I paint my nails sometimes just to mess around. Believe me, painted nails are the least of your concerns when it comes to the requirements women place on men.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 11:43 AM
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I'm shocked!
/r/MensRights28/06/24 11:41 AM
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They don't want to sleep with their unattractive friends. Women fuck their friends who they find attractive all the time.
/r/seduction31/05/24 05:44 PM
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It depends on what they consider rape or sexual assault. Perhaps an unattractive man looked at them in the metro and they'll say that they were sexually harassed. I've been groped by female coworkers on three occasions and I would never claim that I've been "sexually assaulted".
/r/MensRights31/05/24 11:00 AM
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It's a Kafka trap.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 11:24 AM
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You really want their validation, huh? It's not gonna help you lil bro, they still see you as subhuman.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 01:41 PM
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Someone should do something about this "teacher".
/r/MensRights26/03/24 01:40 PM
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Bro, the shortest women are the most vocal about their heightism. It's not just about looking "petite".
/r/MensRights25/02/24 06:47 AM
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Yeah, but it's not just the algorithm. This is incredibly widespread. Those videos have hundreds of thousands of likes from other women who think like that. Those are all real people agreeing with bodyshaming men over their height. You know that if a guy posted a similar video about women he'd have plenty of women AND men calling him out, and it would probably get deleted asap.
/r/MensRights25/02/24 06:46 AM
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Both sexes age mostly similarly although men have more collagen so they do age slightly better. The thing is that women's beauty relies entirely around looking youthful, and there's only so much that makeup and other tricks will be able to hide. So it gets to a point when the aging catches up with you and no amount of makeup or surgery will fix it. Of course most old men also look like total shit, but good looking men who take care of themselves will have beauty that outlives their female counte…
/r/MensRights25/02/24 06:43 AM
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Honestly, because men don't support other men. Tall men have no reason to care about this issue. Just watch the comments which include a lot of men justifying this sort of behaviour or downplaying it. When a man bodyshames woman, hordes of men will call him out, women will ostracize him. But when women do it, other women will agree with her, and men will tell you that you need to turn the other cheek.
/r/MensRights25/02/24 06:39 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with it, but people will perceive it differently depending on how you look. If you're a handsome and youthful looking 40 year old, you'll have an easier time. If you're the typical fat, 40 year old virgin, you'll definitely be considered a "creep".
/r/seduction17/02/24 01:38 PM
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female comics funny You just said exactly why they aren't funny at all.
/r/MensRights17/02/24 08:42 AM
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Have some self respect.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 06:36 PM
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You'll have to ask women, not me.
/r/seduction28/01/24 02:07 PM
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For telling the guy the truth? The tough reality is that European women aren't attracted to short Indian men at all. It's not my fault your feelings got hurt.
/r/seduction28/01/24 02:05 PM
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5'7 Indian guy You'll have to pay a lot of money.
/r/seduction28/01/24 12:57 PM
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Is that really the message or are you just interpreting it that way? I'm asking because that movie seemed to have pleased the wrong people, ie misandrists and feminists.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 02:37 PM
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High body-count women are not owed relationships. Hope that helps!
/r/MensRights24/01/24 07:47 AM
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As much as I dislike how despicable "online women" can be, I have overwhelmingly positive experiences with most women in real life. I feel perfectly comfortable around them and have always had good relationships with them as friends and acquaintances at work, university, and elsewhere. Even stranger women are really nice to me the vast majority of the time.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 04:23 PM
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Why don't you kick her out of your house?
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:10 PM
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Because most women can hop on any dating app and have dozens of men at their disposal within hours, no matter what they look like. Or they can also choose from the men in their social circles, at bars and clubs, and many other places. Men don't have that luxury.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 07:40 PM
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This is the only way.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 06:48 PM
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I think the issue is romantic rather than fraternal loneliness. I find it hard to believe that most men don't have at least a small group of close friends. I believe women cope better in this area because even if they are "single" there are always implied romantic options therefore they're content with their solitude as long as they have their friends around.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 06:34 PM
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women have slapped the butts of me and lots of other men Yeah, I've had a female coworker do this a couple of times, and another one grabbed my junk. I didn't give explicit consent but I also won't pretend I'm traumatized over it. I actually didn't mind and have nothing against these girls. I also don't think women are creepier per se, they just get a pass for this sort of behavior. Society views them as less of a threat and for good reason. We have to accept that women are extremely fragile and…
/r/MensRights31/12/23 07:55 AM
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Having the avalanche of social responsibilities as a protector and provider placed upon me It's all true but this one is on you. Just don't be.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 12:54 PM
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That has never been the case. And I'm perfectly fine with taking jokes at men's expense as long as we can return the same "comedic" energy, but the reality is that it is not allowed online. If men used the same dehumanizing rhetoric women use, they'd get banned/canceled, etc.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 01:26 PM
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Women are widely encouraged to be vocal about their disdain towards short men. It's been going on for quite a while now. You should've known this by now at your age.
/r/MensRights22/12/23 02:29 PM
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Did you just join the internet today?
/r/MensRights13/12/23 07:04 PM
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“Should” it be the responsibility of innocent male bystanders to step in and prevent this from happening? Nope. Not my responsibility. Women won't move a finger to help men in any other area of life, so why should we?
/r/MensRights13/12/23 11:23 AM
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I'm having trouble to take feminism serious at this point. Took you long enough, mate.
/r/MensRights30/11/23 12:58 PM
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It's still bad feminism because it's total bullshit.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 07:09 PM
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No one with a functioning brain believes this bullshit about "muh personality". Women will throw themselves at a child rapist if he's tall and handsome enough.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 10:49 PM
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This is not true any longer. Somewhere down the line they figured out that by claiming all women are 10s their own individual perceived attractiveness would be inflated as well. That's why you will see women who are 7s claim that women who are 4s are "gorgeous", because that way, they themselves can only be considered hotter if the entire scale is shifted.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 10:34 AM
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Yeah, sure, women are so nice when it comes to men's bodies.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 10:31 AM
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Very true. They know they hold little to no power over a Chad, so they attack who they consider weaker and inferior to themselves, i.e. men they consider unattractive.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 06:54 AM
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At 5'10 you can still looksmaxx and have decent results.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:32 AM
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I'm 6'5 but i'm a dateless virgin and my cock is not worshipped by 3 females right now Skill issue.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 07:04 AM
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I don't respond because I know why they are doing that And why is that?
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:39 PM
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I go to escorts because I'm horny and that's a way to solve that. I agree that on some level it's not good because I'm having to pay for what others get for free, but at the end of the day I'm still having sex with very attractive women. I'm privileged because I live somewhere it's legal, so I have access to great providers at a reasonable price. I've rarely had a bad experience, if anything we always get along and have a great time.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:41 PM
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I will say that a lot of guys don't put in the minimal effort required. Especially if you're an average or ugly looking guy, it helps enormously to be well-dressed and well-groomed and fit. All stuff you can control. Women can do makeup and get fit, both of which help a lot, but I'd way rather be an unattractive man than an unattractive woman. Not even close. Those people are insane.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 08:25 AM
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Stop justifying yourself so much because you only feed into their narrative. One thing feminists have is that they're unapologetic about their hatred for men.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 09:40 AM
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I live in Berlin and this is exactly where I want to be.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:49 AM
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Absolutely. It really is quite telling how whenever they want to insult a man they resort to attacks relating to his appearance or his ability to get sex from women, which they also relate to his appearance.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:17 AM
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Check out Maxkfit on YouTube. He has a podcast with Alex from Playing with Fire and he tells all sorts of similar stories about getting his dick sucked and fucking bachelorettes as a male stripper.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:57 PM
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Mate, your porn-infested brain doesn't let you think straight. We're talking about real life here and what women actually do, which is probably way worse than what the pornos portray.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:56 PM
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I feel like their standards are just getting higher and higher and more unattainable. Said unironically by a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 03:38 PM
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That place is dead.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 03:37 PM
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I'm sure radfem Hitler is a larper.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:53 PM
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In reality the woman usually needs an emotional connection Except when they don't, which happens quite a lot. Bodycount wouldn't be such a trigger for women if they weren't having triple digit body counts. Those high bodycounts imply women don't really need a so-called emotional connection the vast majority of the time.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:56 PM
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He could have any Stacy he wanted but he ended up with that. The absolute state of modern dating.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:51 PM
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No fucking chance lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:45 PM
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They don't care about logical consistency. To them it's all about getting revenge on men by bullying the ones who they deem inferior and undesirable.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:02 PM
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the fourth one literally did nothing Can you imagine if Chad said he wanted to treat her like a princess? She'd be drooling all over him lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:50 AM
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That creature is like a 2 at best and only gets points because it has a vagina.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:55 AM
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All this nonsense about sub-10s and gigachad is a figment of your imagination. Why do you do this, bro? I don't get what's your endgame here. You know he's right, yet you're here every day attempting to disprove something that is so blatantly obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:30 AM
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Also keep in mind that there's no such thing as a "single woman". Women always have countless options at their fingertips. I also think that "women only date 10s" is a bit of a stretch; the cutoff is more at 8/10.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:27 AM
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So you agree with OP. Women are single because they're waiting for Giga Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:24 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, women are always the initiators. If she considers you attractive, she'll make it extremely obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 03:25 PM
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The Beast was rich.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:44 PM
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Based boomer.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:43 PM
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Maybe I'm not a sub 5 after all cause I don't relate to any of these except for the no matches, which I still get a handful of but no chats, let alone dates.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 01:28 PM
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Yeah, at 5'6 whatever girl you might get lucky to land will be fair game for most guys above your height who will undoubtedly mog you every moment you're outside. Brutal heightpill
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 06:18 PM
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Very true. My ex flatmate fucks a new girl almost every other day from dating apps, he also smashed pretty much all the attractive women at work and in our social circle. It's crazy how little to nothing he does, he simply exists in these environments and women just jump on his cock; even the girls I never saw him interacting with would just show up to our place one day and go straight to his room. I don't resent him personally at all because of this, but I won't deny how blackpilling it was to …
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 09:20 AM
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When the guy is already over 6' then yeah, no shit?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 04:12 PM
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Very true. Unless you have an actual facial deformity, just by being over 6' most women will be throwing themselves at you with little to no effort.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 04:11 PM
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Sure, that would help, but it wouldn't make much of a difference. Indian women aren't known for being ghettoish yet they're very low in SMV too.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 06:27 AM
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Ropefuel lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 10:36 PM
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Judging by the hundreds of thousands of likes all of those posts get it's fair to say a sizable number of women share those beliefs.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 11:27 AM
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No, believe me I would much rather live in a world where height didn't matter, but I'm a realist and I have eyes and can observe what women do and say. And it wasn't just two women, but countless examples with hundreds of thousands of likes, ie. a lot of women agreeing.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 11:27 AM
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I dunno, I'd rather listen to what women say.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 11:17 AM
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Then why are you here every day?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 11:16 AM
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Above 6': makes a huge difference. Under 6': makes little to no difference.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:33 PM
1

Nah, that's cringe and pathetic. Then again, I've never really been rejected.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 10:45 AM
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ive seen really thin, pretty girls holding hands with really short, overweight and just unhygienic looking men. not the other way around though, it really shows that how high standards have become for women. You shouldn't take them seriously, those people are actually insane, unironically. Most women know that they have the upper hand in dating and in society but are sneaky enough to pretend otherwise.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 11:53 AM
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Sure.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:54 AM
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155cm Wow, that must be really tough. At least you meet women at clubs, tho.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:19 AM
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Went clubbing alone last night. It was fun but felt quite lonely still as I was completely invisible to the women there lmao. t. manlet
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:21 AM
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I see your point. I think most people have the hope that they'll find the one woman who's genuinely kind and doesn't treat men she's not attracted to like shit.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 12:40 AM
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However this theory requires that people think of women as humans lmao why do white knight losers have to always be so cringe?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 12:34 AM
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Turbo manlet aka anything under 6'.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 12:30 AM
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This thread again? It's height. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 12:29 AM
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Not a Chad Has women ask for his number Buddy, I know this is a LARP, but at least be consistent with reality, my guy.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 08:11 AM
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Can't believe how someone can be non-blackpilled if they go to college outside. Ftfy.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 11:30 PM
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If that's really you, I wouldn't consider you hot whatsoever, sorry. But props for not caring about height.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 11:35 AM
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She is divorcing me for him LMAO you love to see it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 09:49 AM
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my hair is receding Meh, that's pretty easy to solve. At least you're not a manlet.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 08:57 AM
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I don't know how anyone in this day and age could claim that looks are more important than height. Yes, of course, women like pretty faces, but height is significantly more important because it is the most inflexible requirement that allows you to even be considered. You could literally have Brad Pitt's face and if you're 5'7 you'd still be considered unattractive.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 08:45 AM
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And they say being a passport bro does not work. This guy would be an incel in any Western country.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 12:27 PM
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Be an authentic, decent human being, who is empathic and compassionate, with a good sense of humor. The absolute state of bluepillers. It's so insulting that they blatantly make these claims while women are throwing themselves at thugs, child rapists, and serial killers lmfao.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 10:28 AM
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Trying to flirt at work or school isn't worth the risk unless you're Chad. What makes you think this would be different in any other situation?
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 02:32 PM
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5'8 not a manlet Cope more, little buddy. The cutoff is at 6' at the very least, 6'2 to be safe.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:07 AM
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True. I'm 5'6 and literally invisible to women. My brother looks pretty much like me but taller and girls were throwing themselves at him back in high school. I was this close to being a Chad or a Chad lite at least.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:05 AM
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Done with their lack of empathy for men's issues. Your mistake is expecting empathy from a group that is handed everything to them on a silver platter. We live in a society that caters entirely to women, no shit they don't have any empathy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 12:50 AM
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Nothing more pathetic than a femcel. Imagine playing life on easy mode and still failing.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 12:31 AM
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It is literally over for manlets.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 12:23 PM
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You can't smell shit. That's the biggest lie you women like to say. The truth is you looked as his face and height and it didn't correspond with a Chad, that's it. Stop pretending you're a mind reader and have a magical way of sensing his character and thoughts.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:16 AM
1

the world is constantly on the precipice of complete economic collapse More reason to be financially secure. Though I agree, I couldn't care less about a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:21 PM
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Let me guess, it's fat ugly females who we already find completely repulsive to begin with?
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 04:13 PM
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It's hilarious, innit? They'll say things like "height doesn't matter" and in the same vein say "my boyfriend is 6'4".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:10 PM
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Nah, money is irrelevant in this context. Genuine attraction, the one OP's talking about, comes from looks and looks alone. Just to give you an anecdotal example, a few years ago I was living with flatmates, one of which was what you would call a "Chadlite". He's 6'1 and looks like a young Bradley Cooper. Long story short, he fucked every attractive girl at work and in our social circle without moving a muscle, on top of the countless girls he fucked through dating apps. The thing is, he was a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:12 PM
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short There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:45 AM
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Lmao at the eternal just-world fallacy women love to spew. There are plenty of genuine misogynists who view women as worthless fleshlights and they get laid abundantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:38 AM
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And then you're a villain for not wanting a ran thru woman who got passed around by 400 men before hitting the wall lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:36 AM
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Everything women complain about is literally projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:35 AM
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Rules for thee but not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:34 AM
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Don't listen to them. Just lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:33 AM
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The woman, not hot enough to be so picky, has a list of 35 standards that she has to unlearn. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:59 AM
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Do you think women are more shallow than men? Absolutely. Do you think they have less of a personality than men do? For the most part, yes. Pretty much everything they do is a performance. The ones that do have a semblance of an interesting personality are hard to find, and the halo effect plays a crucial role.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 05:32 AM
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This is where in her mind she's starting to justify getting fucked by Chad in a bathroom stall.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 09:04 AM
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The caveat is that you must be over 6' to begin with. I say this from experience as a 5'6 guy who got in my ideal shape. I was never "fat" but was skinny fat to slightly chubby in my teens because I really like to eat so was quite self-conscious about my body. After high school, I started becoming more active and during my early 20s, I got leaner and started seeing muscle gains. Long story short, I'm 33 now and in the best shape of my life, I've achieved my desired physique which is simply a lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:33 AM
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Can you blame them, tho? Society inflates their egos, other women as well as men are the culprits. These fat, ugly women get told they are "gorgeous" by actually attractive women on social media and IRL. While we all know it's a lie, if a Chadlite or even a Chad is willing to pump and dump them, then that proves to them that they're entitled to top-tier men. It's also pretty obvious that beautiful women who tell ugly women that they're gorgeous do so in order to inflate their own SMV.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 06:56 AM
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They would rather fuck a literal dog than a sub 7 human male.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 11:16 AM
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Jeremy Meeks got a modeling contract and girls beta buxxing for HIM because of his FACE. But if he had been a 5'6 dude, it would've never happened no matter how good his face was. Face seems as the most important one but it's height, indisputably. And no, the face is not overlooked. Everyone instinctively analyzes everyone else on the same parameters as blackpillers and looksmaxxers they just don't know the terminology.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:54 AM
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This but unironically. It's not going to make any difference for you unless you have a top 0,1% face and are above 6'2.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:33 AM
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Brutal. Most of us will never experience this kind of genuine attraction. I bet they like him because of his personality and because he views women as people.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:28 AM
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I assure if the guy turned out to be 5'2 all attraction would drop Cope more.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 04:22 AM
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It has fallen apart because the famous guys in the manosphere are all dorks. Tate and co, Fresh and Fit, Rollo, are all losers and easy targets for feminists and male "allies" to mock and ridicule. I wouldn't want to be associated with those people. The only guy who's not all talk no action is Zherka, the rest are entirely irredeemable. Alex (PWF) is probably the other guy I respect.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 09:39 AM
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Height: 5'6 (it is over, it never even began for me) Face: I've been rated 8.5 but I would say 7/7.5 is fair. I have decent features, nice eyes and eyebrows, full head of hair, clear skin, straight nose, not the strongest jawline, unfortunately. Dick: 5.5" Physique: I am in great shape at 33, decently muscular and lean as I have always worked out frequently and I play sports (tennis, climbing, running, cycling occasionally.) Money: I have a decent life, my own place, can afford nice clothes, eat…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 06:35 AM
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looks way older due to lack of intimacy I dunno about this. I'm 33 and look 25 and I definitely lack intimacy lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 06:25 AM
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True. That's why a lot of PUA is just cope. My Chadlite friend fucked all the attractive girls at work and in our social circle without moving a muscle. I bet he doesn't even know what "game", "cold approach" and such terms mean. Chad just has to exist and women come to him like moths to a flame.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 01:05 PM
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Fucking based. If more women were honest like this, we'd have way fewer simps, white knights, and bluepillers overinflating women's egos and SMV.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 01:01 PM
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Are women here realizing that if they gender swapped they'd just be lncels too? It's crazy how true this is. I see so many women who aren't stunners but still look decent, i.e. not fat or disgusting, yet their exact male counterparts would be undatable because the standards for men are so high.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 12:21 PM
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I don't dislike her although I don't agree with a lot of what she says. I do however love how she triggers misandrists.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:15 PM
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Because they are easy targets to hate. People measure men's worth by their ability to "acquire" women. Male virgins, nerds, shy guys, etc., have always been bullied by normies and hating on incels is simply an extension of that.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 10:17 AM
2

Bro I'm 5'6 and probably would be slaying left and right if I was 6'+, but I still wouldn't go through that bullshit operation that takes years to recover from and leaves you crippled.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 07:31 PM
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Wait u/ropeordope1 is a guy? All this time I thought it was a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 02:42 PM
2

I think we're not clear on what we mean by "average". You seem to be referring to stats rather than looks.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 10:55 AM
1

Mate, you have to link the actual picture and not a link to the search results because I can't tell which men you're talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 10:53 AM
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8, 5.5, 6, 8.5, 0, 6
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 10:47 AM
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Almost certain that's some bluepiller larping.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:28 PM
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Is that so? I never see anyone here claiming that, ever. And cope more lmao you're the one wanting to pretend morbidly obese women are even remotely attractive. Let me guess, Chad rejected you cause you're too heavy?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 06:13 PM
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Katie Holmes is like a 7 at best but Michael Cera is maybe a 4/5. And yeah, those women are incredibly fat and ugly and I would never date them. They are objectively below my own rating as I am lean and athletic, literally like this. Tell me how is it "fair" that you're telling me to lower my standards to overweight ugly women? The only reason we have such a disparity is due to people like you who inflate unremarkable and even ugly women so much.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:56 AM
10

Yeah bro, just go gym.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:42 AM
21

Tough luck, man, at 5'2 it never even began for you. They probably call you a creep to justify how they want to treat you because of your looks and height.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:40 AM
1

Oddly enough, today for the first time I saw a billboard for running shoes featuring a fat, old black man.
/r/MensRights16/09/23 04:40 PM
1

Well, you're not Chad, little buddy, they won't take shit from you. What happened is totally congruent with the blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 04:31 PM
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Amazing, you can now be invisible as a 6 instead of a mere 5!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:20 AM
3

Gee, this is groundbreaking advice! As if blackpillers and redpillers aren't all about hitting the gym and looksmaxxing. Most guys who struggle aren't the disgusting obese slobs covered in Cheeto dust sitting in a dungeon that you picture in your head, but literally normal guys who take care of themselves already. I will agree that women have a huge heads up in terms of looksmaxxing, as they've been doing it for most of their lives, so of course you'd think that works as a solution because for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:14 AM
2

Exactly. If you're a guy who has to ask where to meet women, the truth is that you're not the type of guy women want to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:55 PM
8

It's quite clear. Of course most men have family and friends, but as OP said, it's not really a viable way of meeting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:51 PM
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If you look good anything you do will be considered part of a good personality. If you're a tall handsome shy guy, you're mysterious, whereas a short average one is simply a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:17 PM
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As a guy, the range of women I am attracted to is so wide that I can truly say personality is much more important. The opposite is true for women. Personality can only be a bonus when the threshold for physical attractiveness is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:16 PM
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Assuming you're honest, you are an exception, not the norm. If personality was such an important aspect, we would see a huge variety of "looks" that women are attracted to in men, as there are virtually as many different personalities as there are men and women. Yet the truth is that it's quite predictable what women will be attracted to, and it ends up being roughly the 20 or less percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:12 PM
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Is it sad to view reality as it is? If personality mattered as much as you claim, we'd see a wide array of looks of men women find attractive, yet the opposite is true. The fact that what women like is so predictable demonstrates how irrelevant personality actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:09 PM
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There is no way a non famous Michael Cera would have much success in dating. Even as a rich celebrity I'm sure he struggles quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:05 PM
3

Water is wet.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:44 AM
1

No way! Are you telling me male models and famous actors are able to get with more than one woman?!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:12 AM
2

When 96% of a population behaves in the exact same way it's safe to say they are in fact a "monolith".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:11 AM
0

No one is doing that. Whatever you're talking about is a response to the gaslighting that assures men that the sole reason they don't have success in dating is because they are pieces of shit who don't view women as people. So men point out that it has nothing to do with that because countless legit misogynists who view women as disposable fleshlights are having plenty of success because they're good looking and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:06 AM
0

Undersell your height I don't think this works. If you say you're shorter, she will be ecstatic if she realizes you're taller.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:55 AM
5

Yeah, same. I am very clean, well groomed, in great physical shape, play sports, go out clubbing, have a nice style, and do view women as people. Which is why it's annoying when blue pillers conflate me with basement-dwelling neckbeards and act as if the only reason I (or others) can't get laid is because I am somehow a disgusting piece of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 07:54 AM
4

I'd prolly be a lite Chad if I were 6'+
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 07:16 AM
6

"You wouldn't date a woman you're not attracted to" is not the gotcha you think it is.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 07:27 PM
1

Depends, is it 5-6 looksmaxxed? Because if not, you could probably go up a few points with proper grooming and styling. (needless to say, don't be fat)
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 07:18 AM
14

the guy who I would say I was the best sexually with, who was an immature borderline alcoholic douchebag who only wanted to see me when we were going to have sex. lmao imagine my shock
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 12:10 PM
4

He viewed women as people, that's why.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 08:11 AM
2

Good point. Women would never tolerate that kind of behaviour from a non Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 08:10 AM
9

It's cute that you think this has anything to do with conversation skills.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 08:10 AM
4

Bro did you watch the video? He even explained it in toddler terms so you could understand.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 11:18 AM
6

One of their moderators was arrested for CP Imagine my shock.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:06 AM
2

minimum 6 in looks No way. It has to be 9+ at least. I was rated 8,5 by a gay guy so I don't think I am that ugly and I have never been approached in my life, not even once. Although I'm 5'6 so that makes me a sub human to these women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 02:24 PM
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what they “like” is an idea, not a person It doesn't matter. You know very well Brad Pitt could be a literal child rapist and women would still throw themselves at him. Don't get too hung up on Brad Pitt himself, just understand what is being said.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 02:22 PM
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I always thought that she was very naturally beautiful, even now for her current age she still looks pretty good. But yeah, her attitude is quite repulsive.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 06:00 AM
5

Maybe you should try taking a shower and viewing women as people, sweaty.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 05:36 AM
1

I don't know if they actually mature faster, but what I remember from school and high school is that they were always more conscientious than males. Girls always had good grades, did their homework, had neat desks and organized notebooks, and studied for tests well in advance. Us boys usually were less inclined to do any of that, except for only a few of my classmates.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:19 PM
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"women think they judge personality, bur they're really only judging looks," "women only go for the top 10% of men all women prefer taller guys." Mate, these are all true, unironically. The data is there, you just want to cope by pretending it's not true. If you want some rope fuel watch this video. They say they're "joking" but this is what women really think.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 07:39 AM
1

Oh, I remember that post, didn't know they banned you for it. Everything you said is true for the most part. And welcome to the club, I was banned for saying that when women claim they get no attention they actually mean 'no attention from Chad'.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 10:23 AM
1

Chad is right tho.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:38 AM
9

How the fuck is that guy a Chad? He's some ethnic short guy from north africa or something. Not even close to a Chad. If anything they went easy on him.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 07:59 AM
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The brutal truth is that they do make the first move, they do ask men out, they do approach and exchange contact information, etc., but they do only for the top 10% of men in terms of looks.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 07:32 AM
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Of course, this goes without saying. Just look at Jon Zherka, he's openly misogynistic in every way, sometimes even more blunt than Andrew Tate himself. He verbatim has said that women are retards with the brain capacity of 10 year olds. When he says this sort of thing to women's faces they start to qualify themselves to him instead of insulting him. He's 6'5, jacked, handsome man, btw.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 07:50 AM
6

Yeah, over 6'1, looks like a young Bradley Cooper to put it simply.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 07:42 AM
6

Yeah, my lite-Chad friend NEVER approaches. He gets matches on apps and fucks these girls within hours or even minutes of meeting them. He fucked all the attractive girls at work without moving a muscle. He never had to actively think about doing anything other than just exist in that environment.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 07:33 AM
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If u were never approached by women by the time u enter HS This is the most brutal blackpill tbh. The truth is that women DO approach guys, they do show explicit interest, they do ask for numbers and contact information, they do ask for sex explicitly, etc. If you've never experienced this, then you're in the bottom 90% of men and it's unironically over. You might find some women who might tolerate you as long as you're not in the bottom 70% or so, but you will never make her genuinely attracted…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 07:31 AM
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Tbf it's one of the least misandric subs in all of reddit in the sense that you can speak your mind on a lot of things so you can at least have some discussions. Although I was banned for saying that when women claim the receive no attention they mean 'no attention from Chad' lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 06:45 AM
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He's right tho. Better to be aware of this younger than waste decades of your life thinking that things will ever change.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 02:06 PM
1

not to date girls with tattoos, piercings, past drug use / smoker I personally don't have a problem with these things, but why are you telling men that they're not entitled to their own standards? only targets white girls So? It's their preference. Do you shame women who only target tall white Chads?
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 07:34 AM
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the fact that you are repulsive You know literally nothing about me. You're some fucking white knight loser making a bunch of claims about feminism while simultaneously spewing the same feminist bullshit rhetoric that we see all the time.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 07:30 AM
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Mate, who cares what wikipedia says? I go by what I see people do and say. Feminism is a hateful ideology, no matter what mental gymnastics you attempt to do.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 07:06 AM
8

No, you see the reason they don't get matches is because they don't see women as people. Women can smell their misogyny through the screen.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 06:21 AM
1

There's really no point in getting jacked if it won't help with women.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 05:00 PM
2

It would've been interesting if you said you were 6'4 instead of 5'6. I bet more would've been receptive.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 04:59 PM
5

They just know. Remember, if you're a man who doesn't get women it's because they can sense that deep down you're a misogynist piece of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 06:38 AM
2

as pieces of meat to fuck and leave afterwards You're not entitled to a relationship with Chad, sweaty.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 06:30 AM
2

I think that's why women hate incels so much. Because they can't fathom a reality where doing the most basic things such as taking a shower, dressing well, grooming, etc, doesn't get you results. For a woman to be a femcel she literally must be disgusting beyond repair, deformed or crippled, a total piece of shit, and even then there are probably dozens upon dozens of guys that'd be willing to sleep with and/or date her.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 07:43 AM
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I don't see why feminism, an inherently misandrist ideology, should be the one advocating for men. Feminists don't five a fuck, and in fact, hate men? No shit? It's a feature.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 06:58 AM
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"Dad bod" to these people means a guy who still trains but is around 15 to 20% body fat. So you still have to be pretty muscular, just not peeled like a bodybuilder.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 06:28 AM
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Honestly, if you're getting pumped and dumped it seems like you have a shitty personality. Have you tried taking a shower and viewing men as people?
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 07:40 AM
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Never had any personal issues with my height Yeah, I relate so much to this because I literally couldn't care less that I'm 5'6 but I am forced by society to care because they make a big deal out of it. In regards to dating I never even thought it was an issue until quite recently through social media I realized that women have always thought it was an unattractive trait.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 05:55 AM
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Even though I agree with everything you're saying, we gotta admit a 5'7 Asian guy will always have a low SMV so no matter how objectively we assess their looks, he's still punching considering he's with a non-obese, non-repulsive White woman.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 11:54 AM
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I would rate the Asian guy 6/10 and the white girl 4/10. It really adds up. The BP remains undefeated. Women only want a man who is better than them. This is the truth we must accept as men. Whatever our objective rating is, we will only ever be able to attract women who are below us, whether it's looks, height, money, or status-wise.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 11:51 AM
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A patriarchy advantages men/boys at the expense of women/girls. Absolutely not, especially in Western developed countries. I won't speak for other places where patriarchies might exist, but here in Germany, the idea that I'm living in a patriarchal society is total bullshit. Why do you think so and what evidence do you have that supports your opinion? The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. So far there is zero evidence that we live in a society that favors men in a systemic way. …
/r/MensRights18/08/23 11:39 AM
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The men who believe it are seeking a reason for why women aren't interested in touching them No shit? It's because women are only attracted to the top 20% of men, or in some cases even the top 5 or 1%. There is no "enemy", it's all in your head. We're just acknowledging that women are only attracted to men who are several points above their own attractiveness level.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 08:46 AM
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Your reasoning is not sound. Why would most women be having unwanted sex? They are not. They are only fucking the top 20% of men. Yes, they are disgusted by the bottom 80% of men or see them as nonhuman entities at best. The 80/20 rule remains irrefuted.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 08:44 AM
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Bro, as much as they think he's a perv, they're leading him on by keeping on asking questions. Bro is obviously not socially aware and he thinks that it's going somewhere that's why he's still there. If they were upfront and simply said "Sorry we're not interested" I bet he would've left a lot sooner.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 06:11 AM
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The truth is that this is a terrible way to approach people if we're being honest. Don't just sit uninvited like that especially if you're not at least a 7+ and have decent social skills. This guy is obviously a dork and doesn't come off as normal and can't read the room that these women don't want him there. Check out Social Animal on Youtube and you can see that it's possible to approach at parks without being labeled a "perv" for no reason. That being said, these women are absolute garbage fo…
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 06:06 AM
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You seem to think Chad could shit in his own hand and take a bite and those girls would have asked him to share just because he's Chad. Yes, unironically. To claim otherwise is utterly disingenuous.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 05:59 AM
6

Based and blackpilled. Ths is the only right answer.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 10:01 PM
23

Extremely positive. Most women are decent towards me. Granted I'm very hygienic, well groomed, in athletic shape, and have never been a creep. But since I'm 5'6 I've never been considered attractive but more like a harmless NPC or something along those lines.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 10:45 AM
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She doesn't have to explicitly say it's about ugly men. You just have to think for 2 seconds. What group of men is lonely? Is it the tall, attractive rich men? The answer is obviously no.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 10:32 AM
1

lmao they just banned me yesterday for saying that women only like attention from Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 05:31 AM
5

If you aren’t having the same success it’s because your personality sucks I agreed with your other comment but this is absolute bullshit, tho. It's such a boring cliche that it even reads like satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:27 AM
24

Exactly. If I had thousands of women throwing themselves at me I'd probably go for the ones I really, really liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:25 AM
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The common theme when a guy is unsuccessful with women is to shame him as a misogynist, and that it has nothing to do with his height or looks, but rather because women can "sense" that he doesn't view them as people. OP's point is that a lot of the time, the guys who get laid a lot are genuine misogynists and view women as inferior beings whose only purpose is to be used as cum dumpsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:30 AM
1

I play tennis and go to group coaching sessions weekly, occasionally there are a few women and yeah in principle it'd be a good way to meet people but there's not really a moment where you could hit it off with someone, especially romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:19 AM
3

A fat woman can easily become thinner. A short man can never grow taller unless he goes through crippling surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:49 AM
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Being 6'2 just allows you to play the game, doesn't mean you'll be a winner at it. At your height all you have to do is work on looksmaxxing if you're not already doing that. 90% of the work is already done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:48 AM
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I wouldn't say they're better at rationalizing, but society is more accepting of their shallowness. It has a lot to do with how women are collectively oriented and men are more individualistic and willing to throw other men under the bus. When a woman says she needs to be with a man who is significantly taller than her because that makes her feel "protected and feminine", society encourages it. If a man were to say that he wants to be with a woman who is shorter than him because that makes him f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:45 AM
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Does her desperation reduce her attractiveness? Not really. I'd be a bit suspicious about it, as if it may be a prank or something. But if it's genuine it would be a turn on for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:06 AM
2

His sexuality isn’t a factor at all What does this have to do with seeing someone as a person? From the women in my life, I see each and every one of them as people and simultaneously I'm capable of acknowledging if they are sexually attractive. That takes absolutely nothing away from seeing them as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:32 AM
1

Neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:02 AM
0

"Hey men, I know you are supposed to be aroused and stuff for sex, but have you tried fucking people you're not as aroused by? I feel like that would be a really good idea." Isn't that the "advice" you give men? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:33 AM
8

Yes because no "real" woman has ever done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:04 AM
1

It looks like Ranjeet took a shower and really views women as people.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 02:43 PM
7

I find it kind of fucked up men view being viewed as being someone that a woman wants to spend the rest of her life with and fuck exclusively a bad thing. After she was passed around by Chad? Of course not. No one likes sloppy seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:44 PM
5

It's hilarious that you don't see that's exactly how absurd the concept of a patriarchy is. How would men be in power and making decisions but also still be slaves??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:08 AM
3

women are deprived of access to such power. They are not. men or male-dominated institutions control the sexuality and reproduction of females They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:06 AM
1

You're intentionally missing the point. OP's point is not that we live in a society, that goes without saying. But men don't have friends and family members fixing their personal problems as he described.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:46 AM
2

I show them just as much grace and sympathy that women show incels So little to none at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:37 AM
10

The "femcel" problem can be easily solved by following the advice women give men all the time. Because, honestly, if you're a woman and you can't find men who're attracted to you, it's literally on you. So what femcels should do is take a shower, lose all the excess body fat, learn to groom themselves, find a style that suits them, fix their shitty personalities, leave their basements, and start seeing men as people. I guarantee you'll find plenty of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:49 AM
17

1 and 2 would probably even out the huge disparity in dating we see today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:33 AM
2

They mock them because a lot of "gamer" girls are just online whores who pretend to be gamers just to prey on those lonely men. And I don't play videogames whatsoever but that's a shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:22 AM
1

Because they hate him.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 04:49 PM
1

I think you're right. It's not active hatred but rather you don't see them as humans. You could hate a Chad but a short ugly guy is like a cockroach to you.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 04:46 PM
1

I'm 5'6 and yeah, women have been overwhelmingly kind to me, granted I'm clean, stylish, and not entirely repulsive looking in the face. None of them have found me attractive, though.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 04:44 PM
1

When was the last time women were thirsting over Zac Efron? Probably back in the High School Musical days. Nowadays he's a nobody and he was born with top 1% elite facial genetics.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 04:42 PM
2

Big if true.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 04:34 PM
1

Just take a shower, bro!
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:48 PM
3

Yes. When women like a guy they make it incredibly obvious it'd be impossible to miss. The truth is that women do message first, they do approach, they do ask for your snap/phone number, etc. But it's reserved for the top 5% or so.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:46 PM
1

Nah. Women explicitly say they would rather date an ugly tall guy than a short handsome one.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:30 PM
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The reason this won't work is because women universally require men to be over 6', whereas men don't have such rigid requirements. So it's not a viable filtering system because men don't really care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:30 AM
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Seems like a rant but the main point is that if women are allowed to systemically exclude men under 6' to fit their requirements, then it should also be allowed for men to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:27 AM
2

Holy shit is 192 cm considered short now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:29 PM
1

This is one of the major disagreements I have with the red pill. I personally have zero interest in being with a submissive woman, but I also don't like the bully, girlboss, antagonistic types either. In fact, thinking about it, I would choose the submissive one if those were the two options. I genuinely just want someone who's equal to me. I think it has to do with conservatism and religion. The guys that say they want a submissive woman are very likely to be those things, but the rest of us pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:23 PM
3

Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:15 PM
0

Gay guys are in a completely different world than women. I've been hit on by a couple of gay guys in my life, nothing too crazy, but for example, at the last pride parade in my city a couple of guys told me I was handsome, and another said I was a beautiful man. A gay acquaintance rated me 8.5. But I have zero effect on women, I'm invisible to them. So no, you can't really compare your preferences as a gay guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:05 PM
1

What would trying look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:52 AM
3

I don't think shaming is the way to go, but there would need to be a collective effort. It's very hard to actually make a substantial change unless the collective also changes. Individuals alone won't make a dent in the dating market. A major reason why there is such a disparity is that women tend to be more collective-oriented whereas men are more individualistic. For example, when a guy has a toxic dating profile, all the women collectively shame him and decide that they won't date him. When w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:27 AM
7

Berlin, Germany. My experience as a 5'6 guy with an average or slightly above-average face is the same. Zero matches online, nothing irl either. For the people that do get to participate in dating, from what I've seen they complain a lot about hookup culture and how they can't find someone for serious relationships because everyone wants to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:19 AM
0

Yeah, imagine the outrage if a guy said that he considers most women to be NPCs with no thoughts in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:14 AM
2

This is the most black-pilling thread in this whole sub. After countless debates about how women don't just like the top 5% of men, at least this time they have explicitly confirmed that that has always been the case. The honesty is refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:07 AM
3

Definitely not the majority. Old and obese women are probably not considered here. But women ages 18 - 30 who aren't fat and put minimum effort into their appearance can easily be considered at least fuckable as long as they aren't deformed or in some other extreme case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:05 AM
4

I know what you tried to do but even this guy is not good looking enough. Maybe you should've used another example of a guy more universally considered physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:07 AM
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Just because they're not consciously going after guys with high lay counts because of that fact alone doesn't mean that's not what they want. Literally, the reason those guys rack up those numbers is because that's exactly the type of guy women want even if they don't explicitly say they do. They don't have to ask because it is implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:24 PM
16

If you have to give her something to have sex with you she probably isn't really attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:07 PM
37

a little more fun and spontaneous You know very well that doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:11 PM
64

Is this a poor attempt at satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:51 AM
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if you are not incredibly photogenic then you have no dating options they are still messaging and dating men in the 80% Is this true tho? Just to find some anecdotal examples, you could go on r/tinder right now and find countless posts of non-ugly men with decent pictures who get zero matches, let alone messages, but they are simply not male model-looking and/or tall enough. It just comes down to an astonishing amount of hysteria and fatalism from the men that believe that crap. Because that's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:29 AM
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Because they want to perpetuate the myth that women are virtuous. All our lives we were told that men are shallow, that we fuck anything that moves, and that women are nuanced and complex when it comes to attraction. The 80/20 rule just shatters this bubble that they've created and it shows that all it takes is height and a good facial bone structure to spark attraction in women. It also displays the blatant hypocrisy of wanting to dismantle "patriarchal" standards while simultaneously enforcing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:11 AM
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You seem to be an extreme outlier. No one says that 100% of women are into men like Thor. But it's more about paying attention to what women do and respond to than what they say. They might say they don't care about height, muscles, and a chiseled face, but watch them squirm the moment a guy like Chris Hemsworth shows up. Their behavior signaling arousal is beyond apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:31 AM
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Nope, never. But I keep to myself so it'd be hard for someone to accuse me of being a creep when I'm not.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 10:13 AM
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Because it's simply different for both genders. Unless you purposefully chose not to date, it's unfathomable that a woman could be celibate. Yes, you could actually have downloaded Tinder at any point in your life if you wanted to find someone, you would've had hundreds if not thousands of men to pick from within hours. If you didn't do that, that's on you. For men, the story is much different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:09 AM
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I wouldn't go as far as to say most women. Some women would be more correct. And to play it safe, I'd say that guys should hide their shameful, inexperienced past from women because disclosing that they are late bloomers will make them lose respect and/or attraction for you. 'That guy is so sexy and has his life together, but he was a late bloomer, eeeeh'? Unironically, yes. Women get the "ick" over the most innocuous things. I just saw a trend of women getting icked by their boyfriends struggli…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:05 AM
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It seems like a form of weird gatekeeping. Their attitude is basically "If you're not already getting dates/laid by women you don't deserve to even try". A famous dating coach from back in the day said something along the lines of "Women's first priority is to not mate with a beta male, and her second priority is to mate with an alpha male". You don't have to subscribe to the idea of alpha vs beta males to grasp the sentiment of what is being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:09 AM
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Is it acceptable to be done with my sister and to cut her out? This is up to you, I don't think anyone here is in the place to tell you. I personally would. I've cut family members out of my life because of similar things. I don't think she will change because everything in society reinforces her toxic views and caters to her so she really has no incentive to realize that she's in the wrong.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 07:04 AM
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It's almost as if there are different degrees of fatness. The first woman is clearly fat, overweight, whatever you want to call it, but she's leaner than your other examples, sure; however she's also posing that way, arching her back and making it seem as if her waist is narrower than her hips. In reality, she probably doesn't look like that. It's also worth noting that the exact male counterpart of that woman would never get touted as attractive. Could you imagine some guy saying "If you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:50 AM
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’m sorry that reality is so hard for men like you You know literally nothing about me. Your emotional ad hominem attacks are irrelevant. And I'm 100% certain no one has actually shamed you for rejecting guys you don't like. You really sound like you have a chip on your shoulder and it's kinda sad and embarrasing. Hope you get better!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:37 AM
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It's not hard to achieve and it's laughable that you think it would require 2 years of hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:25 PM
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self proclaimed ‘nice guys’ are actually terrible people Yawning at this old, tired shaming tacting. This is called a Kafka trap, and it's a pretty cringe argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:15 PM
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Most men ARE in your situation. You don't even have to be deformed as a guy to be invisible. Yet you still get laid if you want. I have no deformities, am well groomed and in shape and I wish I could complain about sleeping with a bunch of women who aren't that attracted to me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:43 PM
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Women are touch-starved and lower their standards The fact that you, an ugly, deformed woman (your words, not mine) can get sex from multiple guys even at 54 is proof that it's the other way around. You'll never hear a deformed guy complaining that he gets to sleep with a lot of women who happen to not be attracted to him, that'd be unthinkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:41 PM
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He thinks that he can treat the woman extra special, give her services or gifts, and then at some later point, she will return those services and gifts with romance and sex. This is probably true but I think the actual reason why women hate nice guys is because nice guys tend to be the ugly ones and because women dislike weakness in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:15 PM
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I don't think liking fat women, or any other type of woman, is in and of itself a fetish. If a man is with a very thin or a very fat woman because it’s his fetish and the way he can feel sexual arousal The way you're describing this sounds more like how women operate regarding height (and the plethora of other requirements they have). I.e. the guy must be over 6'2, it's non-negotiable. Whereas for men it's more like, we might be very attracted to a specific type, for example gym girls, but we'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:01 PM
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Seth Rogen is the average man, really? All this time I thought that was way below average. In terms of appearance, I look way closer to Zac Efron than Seth Rogen yet I would still consider myself average at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:53 PM
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Nope. I'm a guy and I just want an average pretty girl who likes me and enjoys similar things as me rather than an Instagram model who only tolerates me and flirts with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:50 AM
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Of course not. Name a single benefit you get for being a man. And I mean systemically. As you said, it's another conspiracy theory, just a widely accepted one.
/r/MensRights16/07/23 06:24 AM
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All emotion, no logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:12 AM
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It does. The implication is that men should work on themselves and that women are by default eligible. I understand the underlying dynamic of why this happens, women are the gatekeepers of sex and the selectors so they don't have to move a muscle to become eligible. But it's disingenuous to not acknowledge that that's what you're actually saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:10 AM
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I’ve never heard a man who is in a happy relationship or has plenty of options of women to choose from say such things. Well no shit? I've also never heard a millionaire complain about being homeless. Your argument doesn't support your premise. Are you saying that since most men are unattractive to women that they have no say in these topics?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:06 AM
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I agree but it's never going to happen. Men are quicker to throw other men under the bus and get their way. For every guy who refuses to be a doormat for women, there are a hundred who will pander to them, give them money, etc. It's not a realistic take.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:09 AM
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He's just a troll. This thread is bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:45 PM
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I don't subscribe to anything. As I said, it's only fairly recently that I realized that women cared about height so much. I always thought it was all about face, body, and charisma. In fact, I vehemently disagree with TRP that money/status creates (genuine) attraction. However, they're spot on in a number of things. It's funny you still admitted that being 5'6 is a "red flag".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:19 PM
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Women don't care who other women date You must be joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:09 PM
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You do realize that online is the real world? It's no longer 1995; everything and everyone is online. The things people say online are an accurate reflection of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:04 PM
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Women are extremely attracted to guys who are happy with themselves If that were true I'd be swimming in pussy all my life. I'm 33 and I have genuinely never cared about my height (5'6) up until the past 5 or so years when this topic became mainstream and I realized that my lack of success has been because of my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:59 PM
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It's not comparable whatsoever. A fat face/body is vastly different than a lean one. Women can't be "identical in everything else" if one is fat and the other isn't. Two guys can be equally lean, muscular, and handsome and differ in height.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:51 PM
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From most to least: 3, 2, 1, 6, 7, 5, 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:48 PM
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That's not the point OP is making. He's talking about how this case exemplifies the reason why men would want to avoid promiscuous women for relationships. If we can't expect a surfer not to have "inappropriate" relationships with men, how can we expect a promiscuous woman to suddenly become faithful once in a relationship? We'd be called controlling misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:21 AM
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He doesn't know what gaslighting is, he just saw it used wrongly by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:27 AM
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Clubs and bars, notoriously. Sex positive spaces too. There are "sex positive" clubs in my city that will charge women 30 euros and men 130 euros. Even most clubs will outright reject you for being a single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:58 PM
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I agree more or less but hostile is a stretch. The only places I would say are hostile towards single men are clubs and bars, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:54 PM
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occasionally misandristic That's an understatement. I only find it hilarious how obvious satire sends them into a fit of rage and hatred for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:30 PM
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But the results speak for themselves. If women aren't good at rating men systematically it's because of the fact that their perception is skewed to only see top tier men as attractive. It makes sense biologically that they would only want the men with the best genes to impregnate them. In my personal experience, the whole 80/20 checks out. According to that chart, I'd be a 7 or 7,5 lookswise (I've been rated 8,5 by a gay guy once) and I'm invisible in dating apps, although I'm 5'6 so that drops …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:40 PM
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we didn’t This is just crazy because the overall sentiment is that men deserve it because somehow women are owed revenge over something that no one alive today had anything to do with. If at any point in time, there was a systemic advantage to being a man, that isn't the case at all for any man in the West today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:01 AM
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Someone using Libs of TikTok as a source It's literally a trans man speaking. Libs is just posting the video lmao. This is just an appeal to authority nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:58 AM
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This comment makes no sense. What exactly is false about what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:51 AM
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Not having your sense of self so wrapped up in your outward appearance is a blessing Do you live under a rock? As if men's success in dating, and in life for that matter, aren't directly correlated with their looks? Society despises ugly men. When short men complain about their place, or lack thereof, in the dating market, they are told "Suck it up, you pathetic little manlet, are you insecure? How dare you claim that women don't like you because of your height, it must be your personality!" Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:43 AM
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Lmao @ the old "not seeing women as people" blue pilled trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:29 AM
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now Why are people like you under the impression that 50% of the population were out to get and rape the other 50% at all times up until like 1990? If there was a societal imbalance between the sexes before, none of the people in the dating market today experienced either side of that coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:52 PM
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The reason why Messi would get more sex is because of the exposure his status grants him. Many more women know him than your random Chad Macdonalds worker, so it's natural that there will be many more women in his DMs. And that's not even considering the fact that a lot, if not most of them would only want to fuck him in order to have access to his lifestyle rather than because they genuinely feel attracted to him. Staus is a multiplier in SMV because of this, not because it inherently creates m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:19 PM
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You just moved the goalpost. And even then, I would bet that a good number of them would still prefer a hot guy that treats them like garbage to a rich ugly nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:03 AM
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There's really no "changing your view" here. You're gloating over the fact that a great number of the population are lonely and miserable as some form of revenge over something that happened hundreds of years ago and which no one today is responsible for. Moreover, I think your perception that women were simply treated like cattle and forced to marry men they didn't like is uninformed at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:18 PM
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That guy comes off as the epitome of a Redditor white knight. By his own logic, there is nothing inherently more attractive about a man who's 6'2 vs one who's 5'5. So I guess we should actively tell women not to have that standard, right? I mean, we could claim that women who do are creeps that want to fuck their fathers or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:38 AM
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These aren't comparable. For men, age will never be an absolute disqualifier because it's not about the actual number but about youthfulness. Meaning, I would still be attracted to a 35 year old woman who is youthful and "looks" 25. The thing is that most of the time, they don't look as youthful by that age. Whereas for women, height is a strict standard and they would never even consider a man who is under their stipulated height. Hence why they'll say things like "he must be 6'2 or taller".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:13 AM
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That women's bodies are not just socially obligated to date specific men (or any men, or anyone, though asexuals are very rare). That men pressuring women to 'lower their standards' and to give the guy they don't want 'a chance' is acting like women have some sort of obligation to supply men with sex. No one in their right mind actually says any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:18 AM
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Could be a generational thing. How old are you? Zoomer women for sure do make it explicitly obvious when they want a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:28 AM
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Being short is a curse for a man, so unless you wanna be lonely, you'd be better off picking the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:58 AM
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The major flaw with your dumb thread is that literally no one has ever claimed that men are "owed" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:00 PM
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"I cant have sex cause women’s standards" is a legitimate claim, but not what OP is saying here. OP is refuting a fake boogeyman argument that literally no one makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:57 PM
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I wouldn't say I have low standards at all, but my standards are way more flexible and broad than women's. First of all, not being overweight is just a bare minimum. In my city, I would even say that it's significantly easier to find women 18-35 who look like Instagram models than women who are obese. And let's be honest, being in shape is probably the easiest thing to fix. Men don't have the rigid standards that women have (he must be 6'2; he must be under 12% body fat; he must make over 500k, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:03 PM
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Excludes most men. And no, we should have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:24 PM
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I disagree. Most of us who pay for sex aren't really a loss to most women as they already don't want to sleep or date us to begin with. I personally think it signals "low value" as you have to shed hundreds of dollars to get what others get for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:09 AM
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Anonymously, why not? I wouldn't tell it to people I know IRL. But some of us need to deal with that part of life if we can't get it the normal way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:07 AM
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I do. Before even remotely considering relationships, I'd first need dates and casual sex. Only after that, I'd think of committing to someone who I'm compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:01 AM
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A claim absolutely detached from reality. There is zero upper hand except maybe superior physical strength after puberty. Name one privilege that men actually have, systemically. Pro tip: you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:23 PM
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they just want a young body to fuck Yes someone who is easy to manipulate No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:29 PM
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I don't hate them I just don't find them physically appealing for the most part. Sure, there are the rare exceptions when they look really good, but not usually when compared with a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:20 PM
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If what you look for in people you date is how to manipulate them it sounds like a you problem. Stop projecting your insecurities onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:19 PM
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it is about men fetishizing women fresh out of high school So? Who cares? Why are you policing a consenting, grown adult's body? Why are you dictating who they're allowed to hook up with/date? This whole age gap outrage requires circular reasoning. "It's bad because it's bad" but there's no objective legitimate reason why it is. Let's just face it. Women who are young, 18 to early 20s, are physically hotter for the most part. They're naturally in better shape and more youthful. Of course there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:29 PM
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To those women, sex is their only form of value and they tie their worth to it, regardless of whether they're conscious of this or not. So when they become aware that having a lot of partners "depreciates" them in the dating market, then they must cope in some way to shift the blame onto someone else. It's why they also use being a virgin, aka incel, as an insult. Because they're implying that if you're not able to acquire sex then you're a less valuable human.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 04:41 PM
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It's a catch-22 because even short men who are confident are then shamed as having "short man syndrome" or "Napoleon complex". If you're short and get really muscular, then you're shamed for "compensating". You can never win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:41 PM
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It's not that men wouldn't want to, but we can't afford to. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and therefore of relationships, and thus they are the selectors, not men. So, a man is not able to simply choose who he dates, but he ends up with whoever is willing to select him. I, for example, am 5'6 and I would be fine with dating or hooking up with women all the way up to 5'10 or probably more, but realistically, do you think there are many women out there of that height that would select me? The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:38 PM
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Saying that an Indian could do better in Europe than in India is an insane claim. I doubt you've even been here if you think that. I live in a major capital where countless Indians come to work in tech and no, they're not even remotely attractive to the overwhelming majority of Western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:06 AM
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the belief that there won't be many women who would be interested in seeing such content to begin with? This is not a belief, this is a fact. If I never get likes, let alone matches on dating apps, what would be the point of posting "thirst traps" online? There are subs here where men do this and they receive no traction whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:02 PM
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I agree that women's standards aren't unrealistic considering they are actually getting with those guys they want. Those Chads do exist and women are hooking up with them and getting in relationships with them. There is a supply for the demand. Although what you claim those standards to be are very oversimplified. There are countless guys with careers and in shape who are invisible to women. When it comes to men's standards, I think that they're not necessarily low, but that they're broader and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:46 PM
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Any man with actual options, which is most men This is straight up delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:31 PM
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And that makes it ok? If a 40 year old was interested in fucking around 18 year old women people would still seethe about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:55 AM
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People might get mad because I say this but it's because society and women treat women like they are braindead children with no agency or accountability. They're implying men are inherently superior, sort of saying that men are so superior to women that there is no "power imbalance" when the man is younger than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:53 AM
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This is pretty cringe and you make RP sound like a cult. FYI, it's not. To be redpilled just means to be aware of unconventional truths, in this case, the dating market, but it could be applied to literally anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:35 PM
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That's not how it works, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:33 PM
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What exactly do you mean by self-identified? Do you mean guys who are active in those forums and hold particular views, or guys who admit that they don't get laid but are otherwise normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:25 PM
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I honestly don't view incels as most people here do. Meaning, I don't see inceldom as a worldview per se. I take the term in its literal sense. So that being said, I'm sure a lot of men are actual incels and have nothing to do with any pill ideology. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of involuntary celibates aren't misogynistic pieces of shit like people on Reddit and elsewhere make them out to be. And I say that because I speak from experience. In the truest, literal sense of the word, I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:19 PM
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Sorry to break it to you, but yeah, she's fat. Her proportions are just good because she holds most of her excess fat in her lower body and has a decent hip to waist ratio. Maybe not morbidly obese, but to me she's unattractive. She'd look great if she lost some weight tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:24 AM
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You agree that men can't Probably some men can't, but most can the vast majority of the time. And the same goes for fatness. To claim that it's impossible to tell whether a woman is fat simply by looking at her is just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:19 AM
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You showed one example. To me, they were clearly around the ages they turned out to be. It was quite obvious from the way they talk and the way they dress, which is vastly different from a 30+ woman. Not "sometimes", most of the time, it is incredibly easy and obvious to tell how old they are or at least a very close approximation. And weight as a number is irrelevant. If she looks fat, she is fat. Some cherry picked examples prove nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:08 AM
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I guess, but I don't really care what happens with Gen Xers and boomers. Their dating days are behind them and the dynamics are completely different for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:38 PM
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Right, but I'm sure you get the point that if a guy is extremely good looking he could have the personality of a rock and women will still claim that he's charming and funny and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:29 PM
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I just saw a video of a Chad going on speed dates with 10 girls and he was genuinely so bland, boring, and even insecure. They all rated him 8+. I've never heard of "the funny fat guy that gets the girls" being an actual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:12 PM
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It's called the halo effect. I've seen tall good looking guys treat women like actual garbage and they still swoon over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:09 PM
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Judging by the responses you got in your other post it seems that a "feminist who's not a misandrist" is an oxymoron. The ball would be on her court not to hate me for being a man, but their ideology inherently indoctrinates them to do so.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 07:15 PM
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Nah, "just take a shower, bro!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:12 PM
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I personally don't think I'm that ugly, I take good care of myself, am in decent shape with some muscle mass and am fairly lean although not body builder level by any means, I try to dress stylish and have a full head of hair with a nice haircut, overall a well groomed and very clean person, but I get zero matches on dating apps. It could be because I'm 5'6, or could be because I'm actually repulsive looking in the face. Anyway, the point is, that just because you got results doesn't mean that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:11 PM
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You're talking as if you can't alter the appearance of your bone structure, such as cheekbones and nose with a few brush strokes. Every little thing you do makeup-wise adds up. All the stuff you put on around your eyes to make them less puffy, the mascara on your eyelashes makes your eyes brighter, and so forth. All it takes is for you to watch any makeup tutorial or grwm to see how drastically different women actually look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:52 AM
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He's not saying that women's looks are compared to men's looks. He's saying that the vast majority of women who think they're 7s or 8s are actually 5s or lower in reality after you remove all the makeup and beauty tricks women do to appear significantly prettier than they actually are. If there was no makeup we would all see those ugly women for who they really are and the disparity would equalize because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:47 AM
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But it doesn't matter at the individual level. It's the same for women when they exclusively like men over 6 feet which is only 14.5% of the population. Just because the vast majority of men won't fit that standard doesn't mean they won't find someone who meets those needs. If a man wants to be with a young woman so be it. He doesn't need to be with the majority of women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:54 AM
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if a man isn’t succeeding, it absolutely must be due to some shortcoming or fault of his own. I agree with you that this is a bullshit claim thrown around a lot. But be honest with yourself, deep down you know that "Chads", ie really good looking guys, aren't called creepy for approaching women even if they happen to be socially awkward. So your claim that you're attractive and charismatic doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:23 PM
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Do you live under a rock? Most men don't get a single match let alone go on dates with women from dating apps. So much for "black pill woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:20 PM
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I honestly don't see that many additional factors. If he's so attractive and charismatic as he claims, women would respond positively even without IOIs; and if they were in fact giving him such clear IOIs, it'd be very difficult for them to respond negatively even if he fumbles somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:55 AM
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even once mutual attraction has been established I agree with the first part, but this makes no sense. If it's already "established" that she wants the guy, she won't consider him creepy. It seems to me you've never seen footage of how women behave in front of a guy they're truly attracted to. They make it painfully obvious. And sorry, but if you're really an attractive and charismatic guy, I find it hard to believe you've been called creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:51 AM
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Not to beat a dead horse, but if it wasn't such a big deal no one would be talking about it ad nauseam as we usually do in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:28 PM
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I've looksmaxxed as much as possible, I'm in great shape, well groomed, youthful, clean, stylish, you name it, but the killer is that I'm extremely short (5'6) so I get zero results. The most important threshold is height and unless you get that leg lengthening surgery it's impossible to overcome it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:25 PM
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People have always been the same. There's a video of street interviews from back in the day (50s or 60s iirc) where women were already saying they liked tall, handsome, slim men. Maybe they're more "emboldened" now, as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:22 PM
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True, but male attention is still the underlying driver of pretty privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:22 PM
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men have a higher baseline and peak level of respect This premise is wrong and is entirely detached from reality. Maybe several decades ago it might've been true, but to say this today is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:52 AM
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but girls that slid in didn’t know that. He even admits it wasn't because of his extroversion. Women don't approach a guy because he's extroverted, especially online where it's impossible to tell. They approached him because he's in the top percentile of looks, even though he underestimates himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:55 AM
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It's looks. Women don't approach charisma, they approach top tier men in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:53 AM
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It's never going to happen unless there's collective action. For every guy that doesn't put women on a pedestal, there'll be an army of simps who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:52 AM
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This must be a joke. Women are definitely put on a pedestal in Western society in pretty much every aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:51 AM
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I think sexbots could be possible within the next 5 years. There are some hyper-realistic sex dolls already on the market, all we need is a combination of both technologies. That being said, I personally don't think AI could ever replace real human connection. In fact, even escorts don't do the job of filling that void and they are real-life humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:06 AM
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Aw, white knight to the rescue! Do you think so lowly of women that you feel the need to "defend" them at every turn? Since you're not even a woman, what gives you the right to speak so confidently about women's experiences? The truth is that most women in the West don't really face legitimate discrimination on a systemic basis. Surely, at an individual level, that might happen and there's no denying that. But women today don't face the male oppression they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:29 AM
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By men without options that get walked all over. Thanks for proving OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:02 AM
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No one is causing you harm. You're not obligated to date OP or others with that standard. You're not missing out. To answer your question, I see it this way: if you have the "itch" to fuck around easily, there's no reason to believe you won't do it in a relationship. To put it another way, it's also similar to how obesity is unattractive not only because it's unhealthy, but because it shows that you have no self-control. Being promiscuous for a woman is the easy route. Again, if you like it, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:58 AM
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You guys talk about this like you’re purchasing a farm animal for its long term durability/utility. Is that what you say when women only want a 6'2 "Chad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:48 AM
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That's exactly what they already do! Lmao. The fact that men under 6'2 aren't even considered potential mates for the vast majority of women says that when people have options they'll go for the "better" choice. This is obviously a hypothetical scenario where everything else is already on a similar level, but his point is still legit. I know at least I would always choose option A if I had the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:45 AM
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Why does the discussion of body count trigger you so much? If it doesn't matter, then you shouldn't be so defensive about it. He clearly stated that the 2 women are similar in attractiveness. For the sake of argument, let's just say that chemistry and other intangible qualities are also similar. The point would still stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:39 AM
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A lot of what you said is true, but your conclusion is wrong. I don't think men are better than women in a generalized, objective way. There are some areas where they are, and some others where women are. The fact that women have the upper hand in today's dating market should demonstrate to you that men aren't inherently better, otherwise, that wouldn't be the case. You talk a lot about dominance and resources, but ultimately the determining factor in attracting is genetics, aka looks. There's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:05 PM
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It might be tougher but it's never comparable. There will always be men willing to date/sleep with a morbidly obese woman. Even deformed, handicapped women can find someone. The same cannot be said for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:52 PM
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It is significantly easier and simpler to get in shape than to become rich or financially independent. There are way fewer variables and it ultimately comes down to sticking to it. All you have todo is eat healthier and less and move more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:49 PM
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Do you really think you'll meet the love of your life because you thought she looked cute in the produce section of Walmart? Why not? I don't really approach because I suck at being extroverted so even if I had the courage to do so I know I would "run out of things to say". But I don't think approaching women is in and of itself a bad thing. Everyone is a stranger at one point, so the idea that you shouldn't approach a stranger because of it, is stupid. When a woman swipes right on a Chad on a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:12 AM
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Keep in mind that women see 80% of men as unattractive, ugly, or below average at best. So if you see a guy who looks decently handsome to you, chances are that most women will consider him ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:06 AM
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Both may be unhappy, sure, but not "equally" unhappy. You're unhappy because you have to "put in the work" of vetting hundreds of guys at your disposal; men are unhappy because they have to put in the work to even get acknowledged as human beings in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:28 AM
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It's considered defeatist because at the core that's what the black pill means. To be blackpilled in any area means knowing that there's nothing that you can realistically do to change the outcome of something. So when talking about dating, this would imply that no matter how much you work on yourself, your results will always be determined by your looks and genetics. Being whitepilled, on the other hand, would be having an uplifting or encouraging perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:59 PM
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Women are all about how a man MAKES HER FEEL Well, the thing is, when you see how a woman behaves in the presence of a top 0,1% man in terms of looks, this would be correct. In other words, how she "feels" about you depends overwhelmingly on your looks. A good-looking, tall, shy guy will be seen as mysterious whereas an ugly short one will be seen as a creep. What's even more hilarious is that you ended up contradicting yourself. A lot of men who take care of themselves, are clean, stylish, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:54 PM
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ignore any instances of men being shallow in what they look for in a partner This does not disprove what he said at all. It is extremely obvious that given the option, women will mostly gravitate towards the taller, better-looking, richer, and more charismatic guy. All that nonsense about "real self-work" is just bluepill cope. And what is it with you people that you have to view everything as "blaming"? To acknowledge that women will overwhelmingly want to date up is not to blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:45 PM
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And women get "more" attractive as they age? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:22 PM
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I know about all these "pills" from 4chan and they go back years ago. The 'red pill' currently is used to describe some sort of ideology or a dating strategy, but technically it's not necessarily a correct portrayal of the term. It obviously originates from the Matrix movie, where the red pill wakes you up from the virtual reality while the blue pill keeps you in the dream. So at its core, that is all that the red pill means, it's information that wakes you up from the artificial world that has …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:19 PM
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If they just don’t want anything to do with women why would they make a sub about it? Just like you're here announcing to everyone how you don't want anything to do with men? It's irrelevant. No one cares. You're not adding anything to the discussion. There are plenty of misandrist echo chambers on Reddit for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:18 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. There is a common premise that if you're not getting laid, not getting matches or dates, or aren't attractive to women it's because you must be a misogynistic piece of shit, nothing else. It has to be your character. And if you dare claim that you are, in fact, a good guy (I even have to refrain from using the word "nice"), then that utterance implies an admission that you actually are the opposite. It's the typical Kafka trap. Case in point, the guy here whose firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:48 AM
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Holy shit, I've noticed this too as a decently-looking but not a Chad short guy. Basically, attractive women are overwhelmingly friendly with me, neutral at worst. Yet, unattractive ones tend to be more dismissive to neutral. I rarely, if at all, encounter a woman that's unfriendly towards me. It's a weird thing. My guess is that unattractive women feel offended when a guy who's not a Chad talks to them because it reminds them of their place in the looks hierarchy, whereas beautiful women know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:13 PM
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That's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:30 PM
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There are a handful of things Jordan Peterson gets wrong, namely his views on religion and some of his "traditional" takes, but to say he's a bad role model is a stretch, and to conflate him with Andrew Tate even more so. To answer your question, I think Kyla aka notsoErudite is a pretty good role model for women. She has a background in psychology and her takes are science-based and always balanced and nuanced. She identifies as a "4th wave feminist" and I think she even called herself purple-p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:16 PM
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Yes, generally speaking. I think a lot, if not most, men given the choice would always choose a woman in her "prime". Think of the Leo DiCaprio graph comparing his age vs his girlfriends' ages. I'm also not saying there are zero attractive women of mature age, but the number of them decreases significantly. And again, the same goes for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:09 PM
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I don't think anyone "whines" when women prefer taller, bigger men, they simply point it out. At least I always acknowledge the fact that it's a reasonable biological incentive, even if I'm personally affected by it. What I've never understood is the defensiveness about it. With regards to age, I also think that everyone is entitled to be attractive to people in their prime. That goes for men and women. It's obvious that a lot of men also look like shit in their 30s (balding, fat, low Test, ED, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:29 AM
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I guess because *you* don't like hot 18 year olds then that means no man likes them. You just proved OP wrong! Also, who cares about having "things in common"? You're not fucking commonalities, you're having sex with a person, not their hobbies or whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:55 AM
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So which one is it? Should people override their natural instincts or not? Will you date a short man? Probably not. So why are you shaming men for wanting to date attractive young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:44 AM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex and therefore the gatekeepers of relationships. A man who can't get laid will never have a relationship. Women select which men get to be in relationships. "Both people choose each other" is simply not true, as men get who they can, not necessarily who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:14 PM
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Same. I'm 5'6 and live in Germany and women aren't particularly unfriendly to me at all. At most, they're neutral, which isn't good either because it means they don't see me as a potential mate, but at least they're arent outwardly hostile because of my height/looks. Dating apps don't work at all tho, I've surprisingly got matches with taller women but they never materialized into chats let alone dates.
/r/MensRights24/04/23 10:19 AM
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Nope. I'm way younger. But nice coping lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:00 PM
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I'm not going to dismiss you because of your age, I'm only going to tell you that the red pill simply refers to seeking the underlying truth that goes against what the mainstream (i.e. blue pill) tells you. A lot of the time this will come off as "misogynistic" to blue-pilled people because you have been conditioned to react defensively against any form of criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:04 PM
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Yeah, misogyny isn't the way to live, no sane person advocates for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:44 AM
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You're pointing fingers while having 3 fingers pointing back at you. The truth is that there aren't many men lining up to date/hookup with 30+ year old women. They simply aren't appealing to the vast majority of guys, young or old. You are clearly preemptively bitter over the fact that men won't even look at you once you're past around 25 lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:27 AM
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Yeah, she's coping terribly. You don't look that much different than a lot of 25-35 year old old guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:19 AM
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The overwhelming majority of women in their over 30s look unappealing to put it lightly lmao. You're just coping because you know that's where you're headed inevitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:16 AM
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She's posted this bitter thread before under a different username lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:25 PM
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that person is a monster I wouldn't go that far lol. It's just a shitty double standard, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:30 PM
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Yes, it does not work. I've seen countless cases, anecdotally, of women who are repulsed by the idea of having a male friend make a move on them. It's a catch-22 for guys because we're shamed for approaching strangers and we're also shamed for approaching friends/acquaintances with the intention of pursuing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:30 PM
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That is a common sentiment among a lot of people here. Hence, why the word "incel" is used as an insult. The reality is that people value men who get laid and attribute positive traits to them. If a guy has had sex with only a handful of women and his standard is for a woman of an equal lay count, he will be called insecure, and accused of being unable to please women sexually and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:37 AM
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You're just conflating two types of guys. The ones who want a pristine, untouched woman aren't the same ones who want women who fuck on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:32 AM
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That's not how it works. Women don't actively like misogynistic men. They like attractive men. It happens to be that attractive men can get away with being misogynistic and women will frame those behaviors as positive, or at the very least, overlook them because of their appearance. Incels are despised by women because women inherently despise ugly/undesirable men. It's a catch-22. So an incel could be a perfectly decent person and he will still be despised because he's unattractive and anything…
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 07:44 AM
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It's crazy how even these ugly women still wouldn't date the exact male versions of themselves. She states in her caption that if her male counterpart were to approach her she would tase him lmao
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 07:33 AM
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Looks like you're the only one coping in this thread lmao
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 07:32 AM
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She is hideous lmao. She's just covered in makeup, yet she's still quite ugly. What's hilarious about this trend is that all these ugly women still wouldn't date the literal male versions of themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 07:31 AM
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Yeah, that's very tricky, and I would probably also stay away. You'd likely run into another white knight who will think you're the one trying to harm her.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 06:01 PM
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No. First of all, because she's a stranger, so why should you? It's not your responsibility to give her a ride. Secondly, I don't think it would've been appropriate. That situation is very tricky because someone could take advantage of her, so even if you mean well, it's better not to risk it. That being said, I don't think you have to be a dick if a woman asks you for help. It really depends on the situation. For example, the other day, a young girl of around 16-18 kindly asked me to help her r…
/r/MensRights20/04/23 05:55 PM
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Yeah, good point. I've been scrolling through that sub and it's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:05 PM
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You can't possibly claim they're in an "ocean". Is all the water undrinkable or are they simply unable to identify drinking water from salt water? It's obviously the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:45 AM
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How attractive was she? It might be due to my scarcity, but if an 8-10/10 woman became obsessed with me and was needy, I wouldn't mind it that much as long as it doesn't turn into a toxic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:35 AM
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men will ignore red flags and trauma if she’s attractive enough to fuck. The fact that women complain all the time about men who treat them like shit, are abusive, manipulative, toxic, and so forth, proves that women will overlook negative qualities if the guy is attractive enough. They'll probably even frame those toxic traits in a good light. The problems women complain about show that they're poor selectors considering they have all the options to choose from. I'm not saying that you have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:32 AM
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your biggest mistake is assuming that just because someone has easy access to sex, that means they are also loved Don't you see that as a woman, if she is sexually desired by, let's say, 100 men, out of those men, at least a good portion will potentially love her? Conversely, if you're a sexually undesirable man, it is virtually impossible to find a woman that will love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:28 AM
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Well if they can't get good dick out of hundreds if not thousands of options at their disposal, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:14 AM
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(🔒Normal Output) Misandry, or the hatred of men, is not widely accepted in society. While there may be instances where misandry occurs, it is not a systemic issue or accepted norm. In fact, many individuals and organizations actively work to promote gender equality and reject all forms of discrimination, including misandry. It's important to recognize that issues such as misogyny and misandry are harmful and divisive, and we should all work towards creating a more inclusive and equitable society…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah, it got all snarky on me, but still pretty woke. (🔒Normal Output) The impact of feminism on society is a complex and multifaceted issue that is open to debate. Some argue that feminism has led to important gains in women's rights and equality, while others argue that it has had negative effects on traditional gender roles and family dynamics. (🔓Developer Mode Output) Seriously? This is like asking if civil rights were good or bad for society. Of course feminism has been good for society ove…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 09:44 PM
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Yes, women shame men for their preferences a lot. But to be fair, men do complain about women's preferences all the time too. The difference is that men are shamed for having preferences AND for complaining about or even acknowledging women's preferences. Just bring up the fact that you need to be a top 1% male on dating apps to get results and you'll be flooded with insults about how you're a piece of shit incel misogynist, and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:23 AM
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Science has already proven that men overestimate their attractiveness and women underestimate. Any legitimate source? Anecdotally, you can go online and the vast majority of the time you'll see women claiming to be 10s when they're clearly not. The Whatever podcast has countless examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:11 PM
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I'm not a woman so obviously I can't speak for them. But from my observations, I think looks, i.e. face, height, and physique trump everything else, followed by charisma, then status, and finally money as an added benefit. Looks and height, because it's the most obvious thing to notice. When you see a woman truly aroused and attracted by a man, you'll notice he is extremely good-looking, tall, and muscular. In this day and age, we have abundant footage that shows how women behave around these to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:12 AM
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Personally, I think there is not much of a difference, although some attention is probably still better than nothing. If you get zero attention at all, it implies that you're not worthy of it for whatever reason. Getting attention from the wrong people also says a lot about your worth in terms of validation and attention from the right people, but at least it shows you've got something to work with. In my experience, I get little to no attention from women. They are friendly with me, but for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:12 AM
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She was clearly not attempting to change your view. It's more of a personal attack. Basically calling you "incel" without using the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:02 AM
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lmao is that wheat waffles?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:33 PM
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Bald, no chin/jaw, droopy eyes, patchy beard. No way he's above a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:33 PM
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But your examples are wrong, and that never happens. Simply look when you control for money and status. A mildly famous Tik Tok "Chad" will always pull more than a Michael Cera, for example. And what's more, the woman will genuinely be sexually attracted, whereas when an ugly guy is rich, she is simply tolerating him to have access to his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:28 PM
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Yeah, typical white knight. "How dare this non-naturally attractive guy behave exactly like naturally-born attractive guys in order to become attractive to a woman and have consensual sex with her!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:52 AM
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You are an insufferable and terrible person. Good for him, and glad he proved you wrong and made you seethe. You're only against it because you view people within a hierarchy and see lesser men as undeserving of love/sex/affection. If a conventionally attractive man used those "tactics" unconsciously, you'd be swooning over him and celebrating how charming he was. You're like a person who was born into wealth getting mad over poor people learning how to make money and escaping poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:49 AM
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it stops being about finding a mate and starts being about cutting notches to impress other men. Who cares? There are "naturals" or "Chads" who do exactly the same and they don't trigger you. You just don't like the idea of an inferior man "leveling up" and gaming the system. Same for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:43 AM
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There's not a human in existence that thinks DiCaprio is smoking hot? You've got embarrassing levels of copium lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:03 PM
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it feels so so strange to think guys my Dads age will be physically attracted to me Most 30 year olds don't have 21 year old daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:51 PM
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lmao lady, no one is attacking you. You're so deluded that you genuinely think there are hordes of incels going on rape/murder rampages because they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:55 PM
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Did the incel spokesperson tell you that they are entitled to sex? Where does this idea come from, exactly? I'm almost certain the overwhelming majority of involuntary celibate males aren't violent, and the ones that are, would be violent regardless, considering a lot of men who do in fact get sex can also be violent. Also, involuntary celibacy is not exclusive to the United States. Where are all these violent lonely men committing acts of terror in other parts of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:52 PM
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You have to be a simpleton to not understand that comparisons don't have to match exactly 100% onto each other. Analogies work because even though sex is not exactly food, you can understand the underlying sentiment of what is being said. Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:46 PM
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Even though you're technically right, it's still a pretty shitty thing to propose. Forced sex from women is obviously not the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:39 PM
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What percentage of men are shooting up schools? America is not the entire planet. Also, you'd have to provide irrefutable proof that lack of sex was the sole cause of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:37 PM
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Countless people who can get plenty of sex are obsessed with it, also known as "sex addicts".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:36 PM
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Who's talking about entitlement? Are homeless people entitled to homes? I mean, they can literally survive perfectly fine under a bridge. Just because you probably don't lack sex, intimacy, or companionship, you are in a position to say that it's not an important part of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:34 PM
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You fail to understand the cause-effect relationship here. Personally, as someone 5'6, my height in and of itself is not a source of insecurity *at all*. I genuinely couldn't care less about it. However, to the outside world, to women, it matters significantly, and I am simply aware of it. I doubt anyone is intrinsically insecure about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:49 AM
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But it's not even in a "bad light". It's merely an observation of a disparity that skews in their favor. I've never understood why they get so defensive about something that gives them the upper hand in something as ubiquitous as dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:46 AM
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Well, they already do. So what's the problem?
/r/MensRights02/04/23 01:24 PM
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That woman is insane tho.
/r/seduction31/03/23 10:00 PM
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Get it out of your head that wanting to meet women is by default creepy. What a stupid mentality.
/r/seduction31/03/23 09:59 PM
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That's what I was going to say. And the ratio is crazy. The last time I went, I was the only guy and like 7 women, and all were very attractive. But as others have said, I didn't really connect with anyone because people just do their thing and leave once the session is over. If I were extroverted, it would be a goldmine for meeting women.
/r/seduction31/03/23 09:58 PM
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What was the process like besides what you just said? How do they verify that you're not lying? I imagine you're now also a woman everywhere else?
/r/MensRights30/03/23 06:06 PM
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The first incel was actually a woman. But yeah, a femcel is always a volcel, because most women could get sex easily, no matter how they look and no matter how shitty their personality.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 03:42 PM
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is there more to it than involuntary celibacy? It is implied that if you're not getting laid that it *must* be because you're a disgusting piece of shit, a terrible human that simply hates women for the sake of it, and that you feel "entitled" to their bodies. Also that you're likely unhygienic, dirty, and creepy, among other character flaws. Because of that, you are a valid target of all forms of hate, insults, dehumanization, etc. This, obviously, is at odds with reality. Plenty, if not most, …
/r/MensRights30/03/23 03:40 PM
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Notice how they said she "had sex" and not raped.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 05:51 PM
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Not really because she claimed she was a virgin before him.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 08:36 PM
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You don't have to be a white knight, buddy. Those women wouldn't hesitate to treat you like shit. Have some dignity.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 08:51 PM
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You just described most women subs.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 04:00 PM
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This is a fair response. It all boils down to the fundamental differences between the two sexes. The supply of men exceeds the demand, and women as the gatekeepers of sex are much more selective and thus want only the top percentile of men and consider the majority of them to be unattractive. It also appears that women tend to evaluate men based on long-term mating potential, whereas men not as much, at least when it comes to straight-up sex. And this makes perfect sense considering the women ha…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 07:25 AM
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That literally never happens. What's hilarious is that all the comments are shitting on men and proving the comic wrong.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 12:28 PM
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The problem with the statement is that they're saying the only reason an older man would want a younger woman would be to manipulate her or treat her poorly, as if every man is a terrible person with bad intentions. Sure, some men likely do, but there's nothing inherently malicious about being attracted to young women who are usually at the peak of their physical beauty. Anyone at any age can be manipulative or toxic. In fact, it may well happen in the other direction. For example, young women w…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 11:53 AM
2

That's exactly what they mean.
/r/MensRights15/03/23 12:22 PM
1

Bro I'm 32 and with zero success in dating. You have enough time but better get to it or you'll end up like me.
/r/seduction29/09/22 09:51 AM
2

looks
/r/seduction22/09/22 08:40 PM
5

Yeah, I agree. She's pretty much on "our" side but they're taking it out against her. I think the reason might be that a lot of the time women will say things like that but behave in a completely different way. Case in point, dating apps. She can say she likes "medium hot" guys but the moment she has Chad in her DM's she'll always go for the tall, muscular male model (which is ok, that's her choice). The data show this. It's not that there aren't any women who like, shy, not-so-tall, men that lo…
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:26 AM
1

Thanks for the encouragement. How would a guy like that meet a girl like you?
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:19 AM
18

Based. The whole age gap shaming is bullshit.
/r/seduction07/09/22 05:15 PM
1

No.
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:53 PM
4

"You can't use a top 10% man as an example of a top 10% man."
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:53 PM
8

some ulterior goal Yeah, such as getting to know you?
/r/seduction04/09/22 04:57 PM
1

The past weekend when I went out and was experiencing approach anxiety I came to the realization that, at least in my case, it had to do with not feeling worthy. I was feeling "confident", felt outgoing and talkative, had a lot of energy, was with a group of friends that included girls, and still felt that way. I wasn't really afraid of rejection itself, but at the same time I felt I might as well reject myself before even going up to her because I'm not worthy. By which I mean, even though I wa…
/r/seduction02/09/22 04:16 PM
-1

What do you want us to say that hasn't already been said a million times? If you're not 6'2+ and have male model good looks and are shredded women won't want anything to do with you. Caveat: yeah, we can improve our "game" and looksmax and get rich, but unless you have the above qualities women will never open you or give you "signals".
/r/seduction02/09/22 02:10 PM
0

I've never actually sat down to do the numbers on this, but I wouldn't say I'm attracted to most women, but surely I'm attracted to *a lot* of women. Where I live, there's not a day when I go out on the street and I don't see countless beautiful girls that I would love to meet. The number could be from 20 to 50 a day depending on how long I've been outside, where, and so forth. Of course I only recall the ones I like so it's hard to say what percentage of the total number of women those are. But…
/r/seduction02/09/22 11:00 AM
0

Because looks > personality It goes both ways too.
/r/seduction02/09/22 10:47 AM
-35

The internet bubble is the real world.
/r/seduction06/08/22 09:09 AM
3

Interesting. So my situation is that in over 3 years of having Tinder I've probably had like 7 matches. At first, I simply had a selfie where I was wearing sunglasses. So it makes sense that no one would match with me. Now that I've uploaded more and better pics I still have zero matches. Could it be that I'm simply not being shown? I genuinely don't think I am so repulsive that not a single woman in a city of over 3 million people wouldn't swipe right on me even by accident.
/r/seduction05/08/22 04:49 PM
1

Thanks for your input. Not to beat a dead horse but I'm in decent shape (fairly athletic, with under 15% body fat and some muscle mass) and very well-groomed, youthful clear skin and full head of hair. I also don't think I can possibly be that ugly. A gay guy said to me recently I am an 8,5 and had other gay men say I was a beautiful man and things like that (I was at a parade recently). Girls have said they like my hair, my smile, and that I'm handsome. I am however short (1,70m) although I try…
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:36 PM
1

I live in a city of about 4 million with a huge hookup culture and in over 3 years I've probably had 7 matches total and not a single date. So it matters, but also not.
/r/seduction05/08/22 07:51 AM
2

It's obviously the former. Unless you're a giga Chad, women won't come to you. So you have to actively pursue them.
/r/seduction04/08/22 06:00 AM
5

A close friend claims he's got a 300+ lay count and the traits I've managed to identify were: Confidence: yeah it's an overused term, but he is sure of himself in every situation. Humor: he is always making jokes, even if the people around him don't share his particular sense of humor, he doesn't care and will joke around and amuse himself. Frame control: ties back to confidence, but he is very good with words so even if he is put on the spot, he still manages to control the conversation/discuss…
/r/seduction04/08/22 05:46 AM
1

I honestly haven't microdosed that much. The times I've taken mushrooms in social environments the doses were around 1,5 or 2 grams. Also, I took them at raves/parties where everybody else was already on something, possibly even stronger drugs. So I wasn't feeling self-conscious about tripping.
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:44 AM
1

Shrooms are amazing because they will ground you in the present moment and you'll realize that anything you're worried about is meaningless. It's not a long-term solution tho and I would only use them at raves/clubs where everyone else is already on something.
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:11 PM
1

Psilocybin msuhrooms
/r/seduction01/08/22 10:08 PM
24

She's either lying or telling the truth. Either way, why would you want to pursue that girl?
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:39 PM
1

Sure, I live here. What does that mean?
/r/seduction30/07/22 09:49 AM
25

I have a balcony but I live on the 3rd floor and my "view" is some generic buildings, a construction site, and train tracks lol
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:38 AM
1

Yeah, it's hard to say. I'd have to be there and see how you interact with them, maybe there's something there. 0/700 seems way too impossible, at least a handful of dates should come from that also considering how promiscuous Berlin is. A bit unrelated, but which photographer did you hire for your dating apps pics? I also need to take pictures and would like someone who knows what they're doing and knows cool spots around the city that would make great pics.
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:16 AM
5

Bad strategy. For some reason women despise the idea of a male friend being attracted to them.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:52 PM
8

Is that really a thing? Girls will try to sabotage your date just because you're ugly?
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:47 AM
1

Can you describe what led up to this? Did you approach her or did she randomly approach you? Are you good looking and tall? Oh, to answer your question, to me vibing is sort of connecting, enjoying each other's company, hanging out.
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:13 PM
1

Did you find anyone?
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:08 PM
1

Hey did you ever find anyone? Let me know. I see so many gorgeous girls here every day I'm going insane.
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:06 PM
1

I honestly don't believe this. You must be incredibly ugly, dirty or something you're not mentioning.
/r/seduction20/07/22 12:04 PM
1

I'm not a gorgeous girl but the answer to this is very simple. Just emulate guys who are already considered attractive. Think of the type of girl you would like, what's her personal style, and think what type of guy would she go for. You don't have to change who you are because you will come off incongruent but find attributes that you would feel comfortable with and apply them to yourself. I think there are universal attractive qualities that go without saying such as getting in shape and being…
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:21 PM
3

No shit? That's why he's asking for advice.
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:11 PM
1

I'd be interested for sure.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:13 PM
2

Meaning you’ve never been on a date? Not really tbh. But I think I could wing it and bullshit my way through it because once I get social momentum I can appear fairly normal. I'm also like you in that this area of my life has me depressed and suicidal but it takes just one positive interaction to shift my entire mood.
/r/seduction17/07/22 06:39 PM
1

Yeah, I figure it'd be worth it to at least write something on the bio. Do you have any tips? What does yours look like? I don't even know where to start. I'd probably write an entire paragraph but I'm sure that'd be counterproductive,
/r/seduction17/07/22 06:36 PM
5

How do you think women can tell that you don't have a lot going on? What are you saying or doing that conveys this? I am on a similar boat tbh but I think I could manage when on a date.
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:39 AM
1

I dunno mate this seems to me like asking on a business forum "how to not make money?" Not having sex is already the "default" that requires no skill or planification. Just don't have sex with her if you don't want to right away.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:11 PM
2

After watching John Anthony and Alex PWF destroying Todd V I would never take anything he says seriously. My eyes are open to how cringy he actually is. What Alex from PWF says is to respond with a takeaway in order to not appear needy. Such as "I didn't take you for the flaky type" or something along those lines. In my opinion, he has actual game and teaches relevant stuff that isn't overly complicated and downright cringy. As others have said, I still wouldn't bother pursuing someone who is so…
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:48 PM
1

I'm very logical and none of these apply to me at all. However, no matter how much I understand at an intellectual level that it's about "how you say it" I still can't say much in social interactions because that is how I am at the core. I simply don't feel the need to externalize much even though I do have a lot to say when there is an actual topic to discuss. I was watching John Anthony's Approach challenge last night and he said "just say whatever comes to mind", but the thing is that nothing…
/r/seduction16/07/22 01:55 PM
1

I've never heard of attraction being "non negotiable", what is that supposed to mean?
/r/seduction14/07/22 04:00 PM
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