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I 100% agree with this. Men my age or younger are very emotionally immature, conversationally shallow, smaller in size, and socially weird. They don't have the tacit knowledge of life to make a woman feel secure. It feels like I'm just hanging out with a friend. I've dated guys my age who had way more money than me and it didn't help or make me feel better. I'd rather drive in a Honda with an older man than in a Benz with a guy my age lol .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:29 PM
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It’s more complicated than this because it’s not so easy to find two mature people who ONLY want sex. One might only want sex but the other commitment; the first person might then feign their desire for commitment solely to obtain the sex....or both want sex only but then catch feelings because having good sex + being able to get along = “maybe we should date each other?” As a female I’ve never been able to keep a fuck buddy for long; it seems that a lot of men want to fuck as many women as poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:17 PM
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I love FDS it’s helped me choose good men and spot red flags. I’m not sure why you think they don’t offer any strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:19 PM
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This is a great question. First I’ll define “dating success.” Dating success means that, not only do you have the confidence and kindness to treat potential partners well, you also have the self respect to pursue high quality people that treat you well. Anybody can run into a bad dating partner, but not everyone has the knowledge, self respect, and boundaries to let them go early on. So basically if you’re a good person, you’ll typically repel bad people and attract good ones. In terms of dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 05:44 PM
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Yeah actually ur right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:44 PM
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The first thing I go for is looks tbh. From there, if their personality is unattractive, I immediately see their face differently. This especially happens when I’m slowly breaking it off with a bf when the relationship is failing and they’re starting to gross me out mentally. It’s like their face magically transforms lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:09 AM
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Most secure, healthy ppl don’t do this shit. Mainly narcissists and avoidantly attached ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:31 AM
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Yeah I’m obsessive lol so I prefer avoidant. But then when I get avoidant, it makes me anxious 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:43 AM
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Yeah sometimes I find it hard to tell the difference though. I also think it’s because I get attracted to avoidant men. So even if we’re dating, once he opens up I might feel closer to him emotionally but will probably find him a bit less sexy and masculine. I know it’s bad but that’s just how I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:44 PM
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If he’s vulnerable once we’ve established a relationship that’s fine. But being super vulnerable right away makes me feel like he’s a complainer who just wants a free therapist/mom. Being normal and honest is diff than being vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:35 PM
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How can love be unconditional lmao? There’s obviously conditions...if ur a dick head I’m not gonna love you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:09 PM
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Yep as a woman I’d say this is mostly correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:55 PM
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Who the fuck does this!? Weird ass women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:40 AM
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Because women are more in touch with their emotions so they process it immediately. They also feel through the process rather than suppressing the emotions and denying that they’re upset. So they seek out support much quicker and try to “solve” their negative emotions. Men just leave the whole thing and suppress it until finally they have no other option but to face it. I also think that during the relationship women take it much more seriously (given the fact that committing to someone is riski…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:00 PM
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Yeah I just started figuring this out and then creating those stricter boundaries to avoid getting hurt. It’s just really hard because now I’m extra picky and extra anxious about looking for red flags...scary stuff!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:59 AM
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Yeah they actually are intentionally deceptive sometimes...and when I say asshole I mean a player who is manipulative and cunning; not someone who straight up says “hey I want just a fuck buddy.” It’s always the guys who don’t fully say they want a fuck buddy but also don’t say they’re closed off to a relationship, but based on their actions it’s obvious that they feign desire to commit just to get into the girl’s pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:37 AM
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But I feel that men don’t want to commit not only because of the girl in question but based on a principle that they don’t actually want commitment in general; like they wanna be able to fuck a bunch of ppl and settling down with one girl would ruin that. I could just be going for assholes as well lol but even when I tried to go for nice guys some of them would even be down to hangout with me and not have sex that day but still don’t wanna date and then I find out later from friends or something…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:02 AM
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They hit me up but they distance themselves in other ways I.e. not speaking to me unless it’s for that, being emotionally cold, not wanting to get close, etc. And I see this across all their relations with women. It just seems that so many dudes are interested in mainly sex but not getting close and committing. Obviously it could be me, maybe they just hate my personality and want me only for my body. But again I look at the other girls they’re seeing and those girls are in the same boat. So I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:28 PM
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What’s the point of telling a girl she’s good if ur gonna move on from her anyways...I mean these guys still hit me up but they also hit up other girls and also aren’t interested in commitment (from any of us)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:53 PM
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But don’t average men have options it’s just that the options aren’t very good?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:09 PM
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The rating is kinda arbitrary in the sense that the guys will get someone similar to them whether the rating is 4 or 7 lol so anyways I’m just saying that men tend to be non committal and sexual rather than dying to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:22 PM
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What???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:14 PM
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I guess a lot of men are fools then because I’ve had some of them tell me I’m “good pussy” but then they act super distant and disrespectful and just move down the roster
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 06:17 PM
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So many people do this and get divorced shortly after
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 06:15 PM
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Yeah but it’s all about their standards. So a 4 or 5 man might be fucking around with a 4 or 5 girl and still not commit so he can go out and see other 4 or 5 girls. Idk my experience with men has just been that they’re all dtf (not just me, but many other women too) but will not commit to any of them until they absolutely have to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:44 PM
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Men do it all the time. They have a girl that’s really hott and does everything for them but they wanna fuck around and get their ego stroked by other women until they finally have to get married due to social pressures or whatever else
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:43 PM
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I never said all men are able to execute this I just said that most men would rather pump and dump than settle and get married I mean it’s literally built in men’s evolutionary biology to want to do that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:11 PM
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But since when are men desperate to get married lol I always observed that women were the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of a relationship/marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:10 PM
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I guess we live in completely different worlds. Since when do men not like being alone? They’re not desperate to get married at all; they wanna pump and dump until the last possible second. They rarely put the woman’s needs first either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 02:45 PM
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It’s just their lizard brain extracting classic masculine traits of dominance and aggression- I don’t think it’s the killing itself that makes these dudes attractive to these women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:28 PM
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I agree LOL he’s like a 4
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:27 PM
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Yeah there are ways to do ego healing I follow some psychologists who facilitate it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:45 PM
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Lol yeah I’m not afraid to admit it and other women shouldn’t be afraid either; we can’t help what we’re attracted to. IMO it’s because of having poor fathers + cultural training to romanticize abusive traits. But that’s a different story LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:36 AM
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Yeah they’re like “but that’s the reality! There are always gonna be rapists!” Like...okay. There was always lynching of black ppl but we’ve managed to eliminate a lot of that, so...change is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:05 AM
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Exactly this. I am attracted to dark triad men because of my dynamic with my father. Once I realized that this was the reason and that these men were ruining my life, I’ve started avoiding them. I’m now doing much better but unfortunately can’t find anyone attractive LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:02 AM
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Or maybe men should stop raping people LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:52 AM
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Interesting how you’re framing the abusers as “strong”.....pretty embarrassing and I would be scared to be around you as a woman if that’s your attitude. Yes obviously weak people are easier targets for abusers- but how do you define weak? Someone who isn’t impervious to manipulation/deception/abuse? Like sorry but if people just STOPPED being abusive then we wouldn’t have to expect women to “toughen up” and become these perfectly street-smart creatures that are able to somehow escape the risk o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:28 PM
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Yes men might have been more violent before media, but through cultural training we’ve been able to create a society where violence (to some extent) is punished. And I think violent media is contrary to that aim. Rape porn is essentially porn where the woman is being “forced” or abused/objectified/spoken to in extremely derogatory ways. And then there’s ACTUAL rape porn, which isn’t so easily accessible I guess, where women are literally being raped and filmed against their will. A lot of minors…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:24 PM
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It’s not ONLY a police matter. It’s part of a larger social/cultural issue, and one of biology too (testosterone = aggression). I didn’t say violent video games CAUSE it, but it is a mediating factor in the sense that violent media contributes to a culture of violence and a culture of excusing violence. It normalizes violence the same way rape porn normalizes violent sex and the objectification of women. And you’re right about the male role model part. That’s my whole point. If we keep raising a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:09 PM
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I never said non LEOs should do something about abusive men....I said that mens’ abusiveness is an issue. Ideally though we would foster a culture that doesn’t reward predatory and violent behavior of men (I.e. rape porn, violent video games where women are objects, teaching women that when a man insults you/teases you he “likes you”)....apparently raising men this way makes them “pussies” but I think that’s probably better than raising a bunch of abusive criminals who put women and other men at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 06:44 PM
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Can you write??? “Yet common abusers would called criminals”....okay and?? What does that have to do with the rate of men being abusers versus the rate of women being abusers. And what is a “non-LEO”.... I’m not complaining about criminals I never even mentioned them. I’m complaining that men are more abusive than women, and even if men are victims of abuse more than women, mens’ abusiveness is still at the core of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:40 PM
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I’m not even being facetious I literally have no idea what you just said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:31 PM
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You’re right!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:31 PM
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I wonder why the media/our culture has so intensely perpetuated this idea in heterosexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:24 PM
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Even if Statistically men are more likely to be victims of violence- it’s from other men, not women....the problem is still with violent and abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:23 PM
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Yeah I think you’re right it is changing, but again it’s more so the opinions rather than the hobbies; and by opinions I mean particularly attachment style and communication style. Basically things that pertain to dating haha. Yeah I agree opposites do not attract! Idk where the hell that idiom came from but it literally makes no sense and in the real world you can observe that the couples who are completely different than each other have so many disagreements. I’ve tried to find guys who are si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:17 PM
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Not really....men tend to like things, while women tend to like people. Jordan Peterson speaks about this a lot. Obviously my opinion in this comment is based on anecdotal evidence but....most men I encounter tend to enjoy fighting, cars, machinery, and partying. Other than partying, I don’t see women liking much of these things. The hobbies aren’t really the main problem though, it’s mainly the opinions. Men are typically more conservative and ‘sexist’ (depending on how you define sexism, but f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:09 PM
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Yeah there are- I’m talking about men having different opinions and hobbies than women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:03 PM
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Men and women are more similar than they are different biologically. But on the traits that they do differ, it makes a massive qualitative difference. Basically it’s not about how many traits they differ on, but the propensity for those traits to result in drastically different hobbies, lifestyles, privileges, disadvantages, etc. Hence why we’re always disagreeing on so many things, and why there’s entire gender debate groups on reddit like this one. But I agree with the latter part of your post…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:00 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:56 PM
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Even if women can take SOME responsibility for exposing themselves to abuse, the root of the problem is still that abusive men exist and are abusive...if women stopped exposing themselves to abusive men, the abusive men would still exist. But if abusive men just stopped being abusive, then....well, you get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:55 PM
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If men had it their way (which a lot of the time they do, and they cross far too many boundaries) they would be much more physically, emotionally, and sexually abusive. Men don’t know half the shit women endure when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:53 PM
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I agree....men and women are so different because of biology and social conditioning, to the point where we just do not relate to each other. In the ideal relationship, you would be able to get along across multiple dimensions, not just sexual. But I think part of the problem is that our culture has romanticized relationships, when in reality, they existed for the purposes of procreation, dividing labor etc. Modernity has transformed men and women cohabitating/reproducing into this idea of a “ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 04:51 PM
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LMAOO get out 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:56 PM
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I don’t see how men have it harder when their standards are lower
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:49 PM
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Yeah logically I think all relationships are just two people using each other. The main difference between a healthy and unhealthy one I guess is when one person in the duo doesn’t realize what they’re being “used” for and/or there’s an imbalance of power/control. I mention this specifically because even when I tell guys that I’m aware of their intentions, it’s so surprising how far they’ll take the manipulation. They still try to future fake and act loyal even though I’ve straight up told them …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:30 PM
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Yeah I’d never date someone without sex playing a large role but for men it seems like that’s literally all they care about...intimacy not even so much. Seems more like they just want sex and a maid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:09 PM
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This is why I have a hard time trusting guys because I know that’s all they mainly want and then it doesn’t really provide an incentive for me to keep a low N count or even be a good girlfriend when I know they just want me for sex anyways...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:20 PM
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So you think the only purpose of ltr’s for men is consistent sex? Lmfao guess I was right all along
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:02 PM
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Yeah that’s fine If you yourself are low N, I’m talking about the sexist guys on here who want virgins yet they pump and dump as they please
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:01 PM
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It’s different for everyone yet men still expect women overall to be modest and not slutty it’s a stupid standard because there’s no clear guidelines
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:18 PM
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It was mainly a joke lol but basically I’m sick of guys criticizing our sexual behavior yet when I actually ask them to break down precisely what is too much or too little sex; what should we do if we’re horny but already reached an N count limit; what N count is considered too high, etc. they have no concrete answers and get super defensive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 02:27 PM
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Yeah I feel like we’re never enough no matter what! We have to be a perfect balance of sexual and modest....yet they won’t provide a rule book!? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:50 AM
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I fully agree with this holy shit. I am the girl with a male sexuality. I approach guys more than I would say is normal. Men consider me more fun, cool, and want to have sex with me- but they’ll have no problem calling me a slut behind my back and ultimately preferring the “virgin type” for ltr. It’s similar to women saying that want certain things in men, but if they get it, they turn around and say never mind lol. I feel like in general we always want what we can’t have/believe the grass I gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:49 PM
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Over our whole lives both women and men come to learn how others perceive their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:33 PM
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Ask people for feedback and pay attention to how people compliment you (or don’t compliment you) on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 04:42 PM
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Hmm. I think you could say the same about “early risers” haha. • They have a lot of experience with heartbreak and so they have tons of trust issues and trauma • You’re viewed as “used goods” • You’ve already gotten sexual experimentation out of the way so there’s no more novelty or excitement • Stuck in a nihilistic view of romance
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:36 PM
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I disagree. There are fake nice guys who are just losers with no game and blame women (incel types) and then there are humble, genuine nice guys who aren’t losers but get no game and blame themselves. Then there are assholes who openly complain that feminism is bullshit and still get pussy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 07:41 PM
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Yeah I don’t think it’s the rudeness itself that makes assholes attractive...it’s because they create a push and pull dynamic in which the woman has to constantly wonder where she’s at in his mind and heart. This is addicting, especially to a people-pleaser/insecure person (most of which are women). The nice guys make everything super easy and predictable, and are typically less confident and assertive. Once the asshole guy starts being abusive, women complain because, they didn’t find his abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 07:39 PM
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I’ve stopped doing anything for men now because whether I put in effort or not, I still end up disappointed lol. Now I just do everything for myself and I feel a lot better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:33 PM
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Yes I do- I just hide it by not acting clingy because I don’t wanna be annoying. But I feel it for sure. If they act clingy I actually like it, unless I don’t like them, then of course I hate it and start to see how annoying I probably am if I were to act clingy myself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 09:39 PM
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There’s more than two extreme options...how about being somewhere in between lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:30 PM
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I find this to be the complete opposite. Most guys are much less clingy than me and I’m the one putting in effort to progress things, unless of course they’re contacting me for sex lol. Maybe I just see avoidant men...but I’ve never experienced a man being too clingy after a date or sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:29 PM
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Men: I want a low N count woman but my ego is too big to date an unattractive church girl (who probably wouldn’t even date this type of dude anyways), so I’m gonna date a super hott party girl who probably has a high N count then will later shame her and her friends for being sluts Women: expect equality AND traditional masculine men, who aren’t the types of guys to promote or practice equality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:05 PM
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Humans in general are hypocrites so it’s no wonder that this transfers over to gender constructs within the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 01:54 PM
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25-30
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:56 AM
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Yes I wish I could control my brain like that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:44 AM
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I’m too picky that’s my problem or I find someone I like and I smell the lies so I dip lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:19 AM
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Hahaha what’s that supposed to mean
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:07 AM
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LOLL yes...uhhh not great. Just chilling now 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:59 PM
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Also hello again lol. Pretty sure we argued last week 😂😭
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:32 PM
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Again it’s just a hypothetical, I still don’t understand how OP is making a good argument loll
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:31 PM
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I don’t understand this hypothetical. You could literally say the exact same thing for women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:24 PM
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This is so true. For me I’m more so scared of the guilt tripping and emotional abuse. I’m a an extremely blunt person..I’ve turned down men in an honest fashion and had them retaliate by calling me names that really hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:14 PM
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I think it all just depends on so many factors. One method for finding a mate isn’t going to work over one other one for EVERY couple. I wouldn’t care if my parents did a semi arrangement as long as I feel like I could be happy with the person. I’ve fallen in love and almost married someone and that was a nightmare. So I’m open to a new method loll. But I know tons of people who were arranged and are now miserable because they don’t love each other. I’m not sure what the solution is but I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:17 PM
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Facts lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:15 AM
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THIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:14 AM
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Yeah I’m not sure how you would define “happy” anyways. They might be better off financially or in other practical ways but in terms of feeling good and happy in the marriage...who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:19 PM
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Are arranged marriages happier or are they just the conventional practice within cultures and religions that shame divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:53 PM
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I agree. Men don’t mind a slim woman OR a thicker woman. Whereas thicker men are looked down upon by women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:48 PM
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I find more dateable men than handsome men. I’ve had more luck getting a bf than a fwb lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:46 PM
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It’s because abusive people are particularly good at concealing this whereas misogynistic incels don’t care and will look and act the part pretty early on lol. An abuser’s goal isn’t to punch you in the face on the first date but rather to reel you in and then once you’re emotionally attached they act out. Women have to be better at smelling red flags though because once you have practice you can see it poking out...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:51 AM
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This is true I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:29 AM
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9/10
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:50 AM
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Well someone’s gotta be able to get the “star” guys lmao? I’m not so bad myself...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:42 PM
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I go for guys who are: confident, attractive, athletic, have tattoos, limit their drinking/drugs, and relate to me culturally as I am italian (so another Italian, Indian or Arab is usually good) I don’t really think following suit means you don’t have your own taste...it just means that your taste is similar to other people’s taste lol. You can only be so exceptional with what you like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:10 PM
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Idk how do you define “top”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:31 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:19 PM
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I don’t really know if it’s just insecurity...they all seem pretty confident of themselves it’s just that they fear commitment so that want girls who’re fine with being ignored majority of the week lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:47 PM
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“Men will seek out the woman that’s giving him the most attention” since when? Any time I give a man lot’s of attention they view it as clinginess and pay me no mind lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:23 PM
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Not from what I’ve seen ....guys often blame the woman for “choosing” to be with the asshole guy instead of blaming the guy for mistreating ppl and taking advantage of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:18 PM
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If you want women to feel bad for taking advantage of simps then you should be prepared to say that asshole men should feel bad for taking advantage of women. Taking advantage of people in general is rude and hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:39 PM
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Me waiting for a sexy man like...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:32 PM
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Not at all but thanks for the useless and immature response
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:35 PM
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Who said anything about hundreds of millions, and who said you need to major in criminal psychology to be manipulative lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:34 PM
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Hmm interesting. I don’t believe this at all lol so I disagree with those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:38 AM
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What do you mean society says this about idiot men who choose poorly? Genuinely need clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:34 AM
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? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:48 AM
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LMAO I wish hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:46 AM
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Women are adults with agency. If they choose to have sex with men who aren't emotionally available, that's their choice. Yes, they are, but they're not responsible for how they've been conditioned or which attachment style has resulted from that conditioning. They're responsible for HEALING and CHANGING this. But in order to gain this self-awareness, sometimes it takes years of making the same stupid mistake over and over. It doesn't mean they're a "clueless idiot"; typically they know something…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:38 AM
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Fuck girls exist just as much as fuck boys. You are correct. I also have sex with men and women. I’ve also been a fuck girl myself when I was unaware and damaged. Neither men nor women are impervious to toxic attachment styles. The problem is when we don’t assess the situation from this lens and instead blame one gender over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:09 AM
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Aka Manipulative and psychologically abusive men don’t appear to be that way at first, only exhibiting the correlated behaviors such as confidence, competence, and toughness. Woman falls for that side, then once she sees he’s an actual fuck boy, she’s already emotionally invested because of an attachment style in which she craves validation from emotionally distant and avoidant men. Which IS something she is responsible for working on, but it’s not always obvious to her until later in life when …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:41 AM
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Thank you xoxo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:17 AM
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Yeah so people care is the point tho
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:06 AM
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And the only reason I think this about men is because that’s how so many of them speak about it, and on this sub someone made a massive post about it and all the dudes agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:06 AM
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I don’t understand how him being bewildered equals him not thinking I’m a slut lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:05 AM
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How did I prove it? Just because the guy is continuing to speak to me and fuck me it doesn’t mean he doesn’t think I’m a slut. Probably the reason he hasn’t tried to become serious with me lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:46 AM
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So you think they don’t care?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:45 AM
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Maybe they won’t think I’m a slut maybe they will, but I always worry- especially because men seem to be so obsessed with a woman’s body count
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 10:22 PM
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Last month I approached a man who I thought was attractive and he STILL won’t stop talking about it. Countless times he’s told me the story now “I saw you but knew I’d never come up to you, I can’t believe you did it first.” As a woman I always feel the pressure to go up to the guy, it’s pretty annoying because then theyll likely automatically think I’m a slut (I.e. girls never go up to guys but this one has the confidence and looks so she must be winning the dating game and fucking with a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:06 PM
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The article says that BC is important. It doesn’t say that BC is a need and sex isn’t a need. It also mentions that women use BC for things besides sex (this is true, I went on it when I was 16 to fix my fucked up period cycle). So I still don’t understand the argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:06 PM
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Or else you’ll die? Like what? Anyways that’s besides the point. I didn’t know that’s what you were arguing loll but now I get it. Who is saying that condoms and BC are a need and not sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:34 AM
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Nothing is a need beyond food and water, so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:47 AM
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No one can be anything but themselves. But at the same time, you attract what you are. There are certain habits you can change that might allow you to then attract different people than you previously attracted. For example. I wanted to attract men that didn’t drink so much...so I stopped partying. Now my circle is different. It made a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:59 PM
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I could ask the same about men. It all depends on what you define as a good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:22 PM
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Sucks for them..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:49 PM
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Are women fucking assholes BECAUSE they are assholes? Or do assholes typically have other traits (I.e. confidence) that women are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:59 PM
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&yeah maybe they don’t have as much choice but there’s still someone for everyone....sometimes having more choice is shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:39 PM
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LOL thanks I’m not sure if that’s good or not but I’ll take it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:38 PM
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In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:35 PM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:13 AM
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Love the quote! You’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:06 AM
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I’m bisexual lol but this is my intellectual position I’m sure it’s biased based on my Sexuality but it still makes sense to me objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:12 AM
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But that’s ALL relationships LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:10 AM
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Hahaha. It’s possible! I see them with girlfriends all the time. They might not be the best looking girls, but they’re still with a girl. My cousin is an example. He’s a huge beta. He has a gf who is pretty overweight but she’s really nice and they seem to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:44 PM
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Good men too. I’ve dated a wide range of guys. There’s always something wrong....I think it’s just this generation. Us young people are not of high quality it seems LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:41 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:24 PM
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Why are dudes so self loathing....a beta male can still find a good woman lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:22 PM
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Fortunately none of my girlfriends are like this. One time we allowed this new girl into our girl group and she was aching up like this so we immediately dropped her lol
/r/TheRedPill27/12/20 08:16 PM
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I literally never said you need 60. I said that if you wanna have sex it’s hard to find someone to continually have sex with so you might end up having sex with multiple people. The other choice is to just suppress your sex drive but I don’t really know why you would do that. You only live one life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:18 PM
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I don’t think there’s a true female nature or true male nature, everyone is different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:17 PM
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Well you’re the one who made up the number 60 lol I never even said 60. That is pretty high but we’ll just go with it. How often does what happen? Issues? All the time LOL hence Reddit threads like this. It’s not easy to just pick one fwb at 18 and keep them around until you find someone to marry. Imagine that...the genders would never have to fight again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:39 PM
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I’ve never met a man who possessed these traits that wasn’t also kinda a sexist asshole. But I’m sure they exist obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:38 PM
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It doesn’t seem that ironic to me. Males and females have more similarities than differences, sure, but on the traits that we do differ, it makes a massive difference. Men and women don’t relate to each other as well as they relate to their own gender. Which is why men become friends with men, and women become friends with women. Because sex and intimacy are involved in a romantic relationship, heterosexual people look for the opposite sex. But if you think about it, a relationship with their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:34 PM
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Acting like your are a misogynist when you’re not already one doesn’t usually work because being a misogynist usually stems from other traits that the person possesses which has to do with their personality, and people can’t really change their personalities. That’s why in general it’s so hard to change people’s minds about certain topics, because their opinions are based off of their personalities. A man who is confident and cocky, slick, smooth, sharp, etc. usually ends up being kinda misogyni…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:21 PM
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There are multiple reasons why a fwb doesn’t last. Moving is literally one reason. If you can’t think of any other reasons then idk how to help you there haha I guess I could list them but it seems pretty obvious to me. Otherwise people would have no trouble finding consistent sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:17 PM
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What do you mean “I’m doing it again” lol...I never said that you said they are happy. I myself am saying that conservative places are unhappy too, just like the people in NYC or LA like you mentioned... And yeah that’s pretty sad and fucked up. Ppl stay in relationships for the wrong reasons all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:16 PM
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People in conservative places usually have stricter laws and cultures in general and they’re unhappy too. They’re forced to stay in bad relationships because breakups/divorce are looked down upon
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:39 PM
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Who said that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:23 PM
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I’ve only been to New York once so I have no clue but I would say overall in Toronto people are pretty liberal but it depends on the culture cuz we got a huge mix; white people fuck everyone haha the Arabs not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:21 AM
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Toronto
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:03 PM
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I’m not sure if that’s what the average woman is going through because I don’t have the stats. But based on my experience and all my friends’, plus shit I read online, it is very common and stressful. Hmm well I’m not sure which one it is but based on my experience it’s hard to stick with one person because ltrs are difficult. Maybe it’s just my experiences and people I know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:07 PM
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There’s many reasons why a ltr is difficult to find and maintain: the person was different than what you thought, the person moves away, you lose feelings, your mental illness takes over, you start fighting and not getting along....is it not obvious? Look at the divorce rate haha. And okay what is your argument/reason for bringing up ltr? Curious, no hate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:53 PM
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I don’t know the stats about women and ltrs all I know is that in general they’re difficult to find and maintain so I wouldn’t say it’s a feasible solution to ensuring that women don’t have sex with multiple partners
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:37 PM
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Loved this response
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:16 PM
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I’ve started purposely getting up right after sex and putting my clothes on because I don’t want to expect anything and then get disappointed. It’s been working out great- the men always pull me back down to the bed for a cuddle :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:11 PM
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Exactly. They admit that they have a trait that WOMEN view as bad. That’s not the same as them saying they possess a bad trait. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:08 PM
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Since I’ve joined this sub I’ve only seen men admit to things while arguing ultimately that women are the issue lol. They never whole heartedly agree with tenets of feminism on its own in response to a post; it’s always something like “yeah there are a lot of asshole chads out there...an example of toxic masculinity, but women seem to love that and then want to complain about it later.” Like lol. All you’re doing is putting yourself on a moral high ground for NOT being a chad, and then bashing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 05:00 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:56 PM
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I never said they can’t I said that it’s not so easy as saying “get a boyfriend” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:06 PM
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There’s a thing called it takes two to tango. And sometimes relationships don’t work out- as we all know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:58 PM
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Early to mid 20’s; but the men we have seen were late 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:44 PM
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If they want you, they will pursue you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:39 PM
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Interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:51 AM
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Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:51 AM
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This is so crazy to me because from my experience and from so many girls’ experiences that I talk to, it’s always the girl falling first/being clingy, whereas the man is more resistant to commit/get into a relationship. Girls are always complaining about how the guy they’re seeing doesn’t give them enough attention, they can’t tell if he’s interested or not, he acts distant, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:22 AM
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From my experience and other girls’ experiences guys ideally want a virgin or a girl who has had sex with only 2-5 guys...like realistically if a girl is 25 and had sex at around 17 then that means men are allowing her to only fuck barely 1 guy per YEAR. How is that fair for anybody who gets regularly horny lmao? And it’s not always up to them to keep a consistent fuck buddy because circumstances can ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:02 AM
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You need to relax dude. Me misinterpreting your statements because we’re texting on reddit is not the same as me having some obsession with wanting you to be who you’re not lmfao. Why would I care about that, I don’t even know you. I’m simply trying to respond to what I think you’re saying. You don’t need to take it personally. “That person said what men should do, I simply told them why we don’t.” I’m sorry I still don’t see how this is different than an excuse... “nobody said anything about ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 09:36 PM
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You never explicitly said it’s an excuse but you used it as a defense so I simply inferred that it was based on your line of reasoning...I’m not sure how I would’ve interpreted it any differently. What’s not a direct correlation? I’m saying that from my experience, so many of the men who want a modest woman are sexist themselves, treat women like objects and fuck loads of them. Yet they have the audacity to value modesty...and women do care a lot actually. Every time we find out a man has fucked…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:55 PM
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There are tons of things in our evolution that we can use as an excuse to be violent, stupid, unproductive...they’re all lame excuses....we have a society with well-developed social conditioning/laws for a reason. Why do you think there was such a huge shift in the sexual activity of women after the feminist movement? Because they weren’t forced to suppress their sexuality anymore, the way men were never forced to suppress their sexuality. Men and women should be able to have as much or as littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:43 PM
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YES. This is my problem. Men ask for virgins but so many of them offer absolutely NOTHING to attract them...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:33 PM
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Yeah let’s just blame me lmfao- but yeah I did choose a moron. Learned my lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:31 PM
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Lmao I wish I could say that was what high N count men thought but I’ve encountered multiple of them who want the opposite. I once had an ex bf who shamed me for having sex with more than 2 men and I’m in my 20’s lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:17 PM
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So you’re telling me you genuinely believe that only virgin men are the one’s caring about virgin women....lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:18 PM
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Just from living life and experiencing it first hand or seeing other girls go through it....chads might not care about virgins when it comes to chilling with them or fucking them but when it comes to dating them seriously (not just to show that they can get a hott chick to be their girlfriend) they are the FIRST to call a girl a slut and worry about her n count...I guess were all living in opposite worlds because us females talk about this all the time whereas you males keep saying it’s the low …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:48 PM
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Your first point doesn’t make any sense still. You claim that there’s a difference between being a virgin and being one to save the special bond for one person- that’s completely fine, as I said, but only if the man is doing it too. Like I’ve said a million times, it’s fine for modest men to want modest women....but not for high n count men to shame high n count women. It is hypocritical and sexist. I don’t have statistical evidence that it’s the high n count men wanting modest women- but based …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 05:50 AM
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Are you kidding me? Chads are more obsessed with virginity than anyone because they need to validate their masculinity to such a great extent (hence having tons of sex) that being with a virgin would be the ultimate ego stroke. Men equate virginity with femininity, which is why they generally find virgins attractive, since high femininity reinforces their masculinity. So yes, hyper-masculine chad guys LOVE virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:31 AM
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By “him” I meant just for men...why else would a woman care to suppress her desire for sex if it weren’t for attracting a man? If she doesn’t have the desire to begin with, that’s different. But then the man won’t be so happy with his Virgin when she’s turning down sex once they’re married lol. Sexist pigs do get laid, and you’re right that women also need to learn that they’re only going to get hurt by dealing with dudes like this. I agree with you. But sexist pigs also don’t present themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:27 AM
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Men are not easy ONLY because they can’t get sex as easily as women can get sex. That is ONE reason that ignores all other sociological factors. To understand this we must ask why women can get sex more easily than men in the first place. Women only hold that “power” because men allow them to, or in other words, men would have to be more desperate for sex in the first place in order for women to be able to get sex more easily than men (according to your logic). So now the question becomes: Is it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:21 AM
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That’s perfectly fine if you’re both okay with it, but majority of women feel shamed and excluded from regular sexual activity. Men want to gate keep sex and then when women complain they say “you women hold all the power what do you mean.” Like yeah, we hold the power to HAVE SEX but at the expense of getting called a slut. So who really has the power here? To me your husband is sexist. But if you’re both happy then again it’s perfectly fine, I just wish the double standard would dissipate for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:58 PM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:56 PM
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I wouldn’t use the word rape...but I get what you’re trying to say lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:56 PM
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Making an analogy to lending money does nothing for the argument. I could easily say the opposite. People would find the lender valuable because that person is charitable and exercising their freedom as they please. And what do you mean “especially if you are not super rich” does a vagina run out? Lmfao. Comparing sex to money is really silly- instead of making an analogy why don’t you provide actual reasons as to why it’s wrong or undesirable for a woman to have a high N count, when the man has…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:53 PM
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I meant to say having lot’s of sex with different guys, my bad. It doesn’t mean you wanted to cycle through dick just for that purpose, like I said there’s many reasons why you wouldn’t end up fucking one person forever. Both people have to comply and shit gets in the way more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:50 PM
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I never implied that men are insecure at all. I said that men are being hypocrites. Valuing modesty in a woman doesn’t equal insecurity; I don’t hold that opinion. But it does make you sexist (if you yourself aren’t modest). What’s intellectually dishonest about what I’m saying? How are my arguments considered whining, but OP’s post is considered a regular discussion? Make it make sense lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:48 PM
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I think your method of doing things is completely valid. Having sex right away, having sex later...both are valid and nobody should be shamed for their sexual choices unless of course they’re hurting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:45 PM
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Why do you refer to it as wasting yourself? If the person is enjoying the sexual activity, how is it a waste? Wouldn’t it be a waste to force yourself to not do something that you want to do? Feminist circles tell women that they should do what they want to do. They don’t pressure them to “let themselves go” (again, that’s charged language), they just say we should be free to have sex or not have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:42 PM
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And can we also talk about how, if a woman waits too long to have sex with a man she’s seeing, he’ll lose interest quickly? Men are so excited for that moment where she gives in, but then will say “yeah sex on the first date? Could possibly be a slut, probably don’t wanna wife this one.” Like what are we supposed to do then? Out of all the arguments men have made about women’s modesty, none of them have proposed a feasible outline of how a woman should go about her sex life. Is she supposed to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:29 AM
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See that’s the very issue- women not having sex is the baseline standard that men seek, meaning that if they do have sex, it must be because “it’s promoted among feminist circles.” Or how about they do it because human beings are sexual and enjoy sex? (Obviously there are exceptions if you’re asexual, depressed, whatever). Women don’t have to promote sexual activity because just like men, we also like to have sex...the only reason it’s “promoted” is because it was suppressed by society for so lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:25 AM
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Because I care about principles even if they don’t apply to me; I am a woman and a feminist and so I stand up for the feminist principles I believe in! I get what you’re saying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:00 AM
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Agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:42 AM
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Exactly; you attract what you are. If you want modesty that’s fine but only if you’re modest too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:42 AM
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I think young people in this generation are addressing mental health more than our parents and grandparents did though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:31 AM
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Yeah maybe because the mental issues are mainly depression which kills sex drive? I’m not sure the stats!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:11 AM
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I never said they were insecure actually, and I made an argument, I didn’t whine. No response from you would have actually ended the conversation so even an “okay” indicates to me that you’re interested in continuing. I said it’s immature to be so hypocritical/to not understand that people attract what they are. If you’re a biker you’re gonna attract bikers...if you’re an attractive slutty guy you’ll attract good looking slutty women. Expecting modesty as a male without being modest yourself is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:04 AM
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The purpose of replying to people is to engage in a discussion but, okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:40 AM
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They are correlated perhaps- but not even really? Like I said, just because you enjoy sex it doesn’t mean you have daddy issues and don’t value commitment within a relationship. What is a girl supposed to do while waiting for a guy she genuinely likes so she can date him? Just not have any sex? It’s not really fair that she’s expected to do that, when the men judging her don’t do that themselves. If she’s expecting a religious modest guy to want her and she has a high N count then sure I underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:36 AM
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As if the men who hate high N counts are only the self disciplined ones lmfao...the high N count males definitely do not shy away from the view that high N females are invaluable. It doesn’t make sense to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:03 AM
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Yes lmao!!! If I know you’re super attractive and see that you were talking to a lot of women before you thought about settling with me, I instantly get turned off. And if a man feels that way about a woman then that’s fine, BUT ONLY IF THEY THEMSELVES ARE MODEST. It’s FAIR for a modest man to want modesty. He just wants someone who values the same things in life. But don’t act like a desperate loser for sex, taking it whenever you can, but discarding those same girls who gave it to your despera…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:01 AM
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Like...men do not make any sense to me when they make this argument. “We don’t like high N count because it indicates she wants to cycle through tons of dick and won’t commit/stay faithful” Since when did having lot’s of sex = wanting to cycle through lot’s of dick? There’s a million reasons why you might not remain fuck buddies with ONE PERSON....sometimes you’re dating them and you break up, sometimes the other person gets a bf so you can’t fuck him anymore, sometimes you MOVE AWAY? Sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:53 AM
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Men are probably the easiest people ever on the planet to get sex from. All you have to do is ask, and most men will be down for it. The fact that they have such judgmental views on women’s’ sex lives, despite being easy and slutty themselves, is the issue that I have. Men are not giving women an incentive to stay a virgin “just for him.” And even if they were, it doesn’t guarantee that they’re being faithful in the relationship either. I understand why you might want a more reserved partner but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:09 AM
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