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jerryandjerrysizzler/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 04:20 PM
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Occupation: Enlisted Military (Air Force) - Intelligence I can't talk say much about it; the military will provide for you but the pay is never really great. You'll get by, you won't need much revenue due to the low cost of living (housing, insurance, all that is covered.) I'll say this - if you are going to go into the military go Airforce especially if you're enlisted. Trust me, the army treats its enlisted like shit. Supplemental income I play mid-stakes (500nl) live and online poker to suppl…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/16 04:08 PM
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For nearly 20 years society has been telling men “emotional vulnerability, cooperation, and sensitivity are valuable human traits,” and a large portion of men have tried that, but where has is gotten them? Divorced, a dead bedroom, emasculated and helpless. Those are good HUMAN traits, but not good MASCULINE traits. There's nothing, in and of itself, wrong with being sensitive sometimes or cooperating. Yeah, if you're emanating these traits with women it's generally not going to work because you…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 02:44 AM
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If there's unrequited sexual attraction, then it's not possible. But despite the stereotype men aren't attracted to everything with tits. I think cross-sex friendship is totally possible as long as there's no sexual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:10 AM
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It's not a value made up by men alone, it's a collective construction of society. Nothing about your reply refutes my assertion that purity is a societal virtue mostly expected of women and ignored by men, complementing loyalty and honor for men. I'd posit that it's deeply rooted in the human psyche - we see it in virtually every culture (i.e. the tendency to view things in terms of pure/impure.) It really goes far beyond just women and their sexuality - we see it today with fast food, exercise.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 06:29 PM
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Women have always yielded power; maybe not de jure power, but certainly de facto. Anyone who thinks a king's long-standing wife or an industrialist's charismatic wife is another victimized woman needs a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:44 PM
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I got no fucking clue, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say more of their thoughts and activities concern boosting their smv or planning long term for a spouse. It might be just response to social pressures, but for my male friends the emphasis was always success first, then family or finding a spouse. I'd say more of her discussions and concerns are people-oriented, but I know I'll never get a complete picture of "girl world."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/14 08:08 PM
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I don't understand why you're hooking this person up. Were you looking to get back at those two women for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 03:06 AM
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I would argue that TRP is not an academic philosophy, but instead an ideology. Ideology, worldview, philosophy, I just view them as synonyms. I feel like we're just splitting language here. You say philosophy lacks advocacy, but I can't tell whether you're referring to philosophy per se or philosophy in terms of how it's practiced by philosophers. Maybe this is an inter-departmental confusion/a confusion arising between fields (my background is in philosophy but I understand how polsci or sociol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 08:35 PM
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Because TRP is a philosophy, and political discourse is at its heart philosophical - it's a battle of theories and values. TRP is nothing revolutionary, the idea that a man should be a masculine and a woman should be feminine and the hierarchial (e.g. captain-first mate relationship) nature of the family is a bedrock of modern conservativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 07:23 PM
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You'll get a lot of answers to this, but I think the differences are most starkly displayed when it comes to seduction. An RP approach is all about building passion and sexual tension. I'd say at its deepest level it appeals to something more primal; you get her going subconsciously. A BP approach is more like "tend and befriend" and then seduce. A BP friend of mine once went on at great lengths how he planned to discuss philosophy with a date at dinner and, yeah, you get the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 02:43 AM
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I actually think that this is an interesting hypothetical that tries to draw a wedge between the RP focus on seduction versus the one on masculine self improvement. It's like asking what would happen if we woke up tomorrow and women only wanted the most pathetic beta males: would we still strive to preserve traditional masculinity or just give in? To take it a step further, is masculinity valuable for its own sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 01:57 AM
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Putting aside the machismo, genderized aspects of the rant for now, the thesis of the post is that since the endeavors of all men ultimately revolve around obtaining sex, we should accomplish any and all actions that enhance our ability to be externally validated, where this external validation is realized through sex. I couldn't proceed past the first part - the idea that all the endeavors of men ultimately revolve around obtaining sex. What about suicide? Or masturbating? Is the ultimate purpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 04:17 PM
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You love your idea of humanity, not humanity itself - there's over 7 billion of us. This idea of humanity also strikes me as strangely romanticized coming away from the bloodiest century in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/14 09:11 PM
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I use to think how much my peers liked me was most important, it's now how much they respect me. After RP it's suddenly occurred to me how much some of my BP friends get ragged on to their faces and don't even realize it. It's like the excessive focus that BPers place on likability and being indiscriminately friendly leads to the destruction of the self in that you're just always out to please others, to make them like you. RP has awakened me to the status/hierarchial part of conversation in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/14 08:34 PM
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Neither. Both sides would either rationalize or dismiss certain parts of the study to make it fit a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 03:45 PM
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I find Bruno Mars to be really BP, I can't sing along without feeling pathetic: "When I Was Your Man" Same bed but it feels just a little bit bigger now Our song on the radio but it don't sound the same When our friends talk about you, all it does is just tear me down 'Cause my heart breaks a little when I hear your name It all just sounds like oooooh… Mmm, too young, too dumb to realize That I should've bought you flowers And held your hand Should've gave you all my hours When I had the chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 03:04 AM
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My dad, who demonstrated what happens to aging beta males in explicit detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 02:34 AM
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Unfortunately for the third guy, it seems he's a bit fucked. He's morally burdened by the knowledge of what he's doing. Is what he's doing even wrong? Is being emotionally unavailable morally wrong? I find it hard to believe that it is. We can take it on a case by case basis, but all in all I just don't conceive morality as directly concerned with making people feel good all the time. Morality is not deception, you can be blunt and even rude by modern standards and still be a perfectly moral per…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:16 PM
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don't compromise my core values (which is to be honest, kind, generous, respectful, caring, driven, knowledge-seeking, grateful, loyal, and confident in myself), and those drive my beliefs. That's interesting, because I'm completely the other way around - it's my beliefs that determine my values. Mindfuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 03:16 AM
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"Don't worry about sounding like a feminazi. Don't compromise your ideology." So guys... At what point are you willing to compromise on your ideology? How much faith do you have in your ideologies and how productive do you think your particular attitudes/behaviours supporting these ideologies are? Well, in the quote it seems like she's saying to it's fine to express feminism, so I just want to make note of the distinction between being an open crusader for your ideology as opposed to holding it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 03:13 AM
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For one, women can be alphas. Absolutely. Alpha behavior is basically dominant behavior, it's pure leadership. So, you can build walls around yourself pretty easily if you just want to be in charge all the time. Women can be take charge and aggressive all they want but it's probably not going to attract the kind of man that most women want (in other words, a strong and confident one.) There's obviously shades of grey though, my best friend is dating what I would consider an "alpha woman" but she…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 08:36 PM
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College, sure. Grad school is a different story depending on the field. I was considering going grad school in Philosophy after I completed my undergrad, and I worked under several female philosophy PhDs. These women were actually pretty beautiful for their age - mid to late 40s, but none of them were married and it was apparent why. Besides being much smarter than the vast majority of their dating pool, it was just really difficult for them to connect with those outside the field. Their study b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 03:50 PM
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Ok, but you should be teaching your child to act in ways beneficial to his or her interactions with the outside world. It's not just about letting them do what they want and telling them it's ok; a child needs to be groomed for success in the world, and one of the ways we do this is by taking into account the different roles expected of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:46 AM
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Yeah, groom them both to be emotionally intelligent because emotional intelligence is just helpful. What I'm saying is that we shouldn't just use one standard for proper behavior and apply it across the board; a parent should be generally more accepting of a girl who cries and a boy who is more physical rather than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 08:07 PM
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I think there should just be different standards for what constitutes acceptable behavior for men and women: if I had a teenage daughter and it was apparent that she really cared about getting her license and failed the test and started crying I would probably console her. Obviously crying here isn't acceptable for a man, but in life men and women are just held to different standards - on some points its higher for men, on others it's higher for women. For instance, I'd really try to get my daug…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 06:02 PM
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Ugly and "fundamentally unfuckable" are two totally different things. I feel like you're venting personal insecurities here, because one does not need to be beautiful to get laid. Plenty of ugly guys get laid, and it's not "going against nature." Nor is it a modern phenomenon - ugly guys have always gotten laid. Nature is not looking to "root out" all the short, ugly guys. Nor have you even touched on the most important attributes here - personality, skills, intelligence....short, fat men do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 04:00 AM
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All right, I can see where you're coming from now. I don't agree, but I can wrap my head around the position. My main point against it is that suffering can be valuable, and that without it I honestly wonder whether there would be pleasure, and if there was it would seem that pleasure would be of a very hollow sort. Simply put, suffering fuels reflection; I see something is wrong, it allows me to go into myself...I know this is a little scattered, but not all suffering is bad. If you're just hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 03:35 AM
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I feel like you should just come out and say already that only Aryan men over 6 feet tall should be breeding, we might as well not beat around the bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 03:10 AM
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If you were born with good genes, but had a shitty upbringing that left you with no confidence, etc, it doesn't take much to become "alpha" again. In other words, if you're tall, attractive, mesomorphic, and have a big dick, it doesn't matter how much of a stuttering autist you are, unless your finances are really bad, you'll be just fine. Conversely, if you were born with shit genes, it doesn't matter how RP you are, with all your "game" and "frame" and other buzzwords, you're just constantly f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 02:43 AM
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I'm RP enough to say that in the ideal, typical relationship a wife should be generally submissive outside the bedroom. However, that does not mean always nor does submissive mean "lesser" - dominant and submissive are complements, one is not worth more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 05:27 PM
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Question 1: What is your view on these types of women who actually do like being submissive and are wholly conscious of this? If you think there's something "wrong" with them or they're "damaged" somehow, why is that? I don't know how anyone could argue that submissive women are "wrong" or "damaged;" women who are submissive in the bedroom has been the norm throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 05:18 PM
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If BP is anyone who's not RP then there should be no such thing as purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 02:55 PM
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You seem to be conflating BP and beta; one could be a BP alpha male or a beta RP. RP and BP are ideological opposites, so neither side really has an obligation to nurture the other. On the other hand, a nice RP alpha might try to bring out the alpha in a beta but if he's BP it becomes much more difficult because he'd be fighting against a strong mental component.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 02:54 PM
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I'm getting a clear and distinct perception that you're onto something. From the time I've spent on TRP there's just so much out there - some say it's about picking up women, others say masculine self improvement, for others it's fighting feminism and for others it seems to be about overturning enlightenment era values. One could almost say all this disagreement is the work of an evil demon. A rejection of feminism does seem to be core to TRP, but then again we stumble on the definition of femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 03:25 AM
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Well, if something really comes as a challenge and I can't rebuke it then it simply becomes something I have to accept. This is difficult to answer now, because while my worldview consists of a few relatively fixed starting points the rest is much more fluid, so a challenge to the larger fluid part isn't taken as violation of dogma as much as just new information that I'll work in without prejudice. So I'm open to a lot, but on the few matters that I'm very persistent about challenges to those a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 03:05 AM
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Median or mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 08:22 PM
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You know the bad old days when you were a beta and you were being friendzoned and being invisible to women. when you had a crush but she was too busy being with "assholes" who weren't as deep, interesting, and kind as you. Yes, we do. A mature RP perspective acknowledges that the problem isn't with the girl in this case, but rather with your own belief in your supposed superiority over these "assholes" and the beliefs and behaviors that you're exhibiting. I reel so hard on the inside every time …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 03:18 PM
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Eh, I'm still probably RP by some definitions. I don't know, there's no unified doctrine - I wrote that line ("former RP") with a little doubt in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 04:00 AM
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Absolutely, and it's still very stigmatized.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 03:17 AM
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As a short guy, I would never join r/short it just seems depressing and why rant about something you can't control. Avoid too much of the victim mindset.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:10 PM
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There are really different types of intelligences. The alpha tends to have a greater degree of social intelligence while maybe lacking the attention to detail possessed by the beta intellectual. However, it's difficult to say definitively because plenty of alpha roles - say, military professional - just don't have the luxury of the beta theoretician who's able to pour over all the factors in immense detail and devote his entire career to a few issues. I would just reiterate the different types o…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 04:24 AM
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Eh, no one calls themselves a "supreme gentleman" and gets away with it on TRP. I don't know, there's been no survey of TRP's general attitudes towards women but extreme misogyny of Rodger's variety is unusual. As a former TRPer, I always saw the point of the language used as breaking down the wall of sensitivity that surrounds men today. Yes, they call them "hamsters" and "plates" to be frank and direct in communication, but the idea of any man who genuinely hates women strikes me as infinitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 03:58 AM
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Confidence is basically the belief that you're capable towards something; in other words, that you can do it. It might very well be an unfounded confidence. Arrogance always involves overlooking your competition and getting too caught up in yourself - it's confidence taken too far. It's narcissistic in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 04:54 PM
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I'll take a shot without endorsing the position: "Essence" usually means something like a core quality, but I think in this case it means something like where women's self-actualization lies. According to the perspective, basically, woman are best when they've used themselves to fuel and better others - their children and their husband primarily. So, in other words, her purpose is self-sacrifice for the sake of others. TRP takes a very gendered view of the world - what is right for men is not ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 03:24 AM
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You make good points about these role models being dated. I have a little issue with the RP position (if we can call it that) that men are being lied to about dating strategy. Of course it can happen, but what's more likely is than the woman believes her own advice when she expresses her desire for a man to be himself and treat her well. The problem is that the words likely mean different things to the speaker and listener. I really don't think there's much intentional deception on this subject …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 09:39 PM
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"don't be like those men!" but did you take this as 100% truth and never looked elsewhere? A lot of it isn't that explicit. For instance, my dad always taught me to be a "team player" (i.e. not a leader), cooperative, and friendly. Pushing certain values comes at the expense of others, and a lot of men don't really develop social awareness and the capacity for real, fruitful self-reflection until relatively late in young adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 09:33 PM
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Ok, we have a conceptual difference about leadership. If I'm reading you right, you seem to believe - it's difficult for me to phrase this - that leadership is a segmented concept. For instance, you talk about academic leaders (professors, I assume) as just a categorically different type of leader than a military leader. So presumably you'd be comparing apples to oranges in comparing a professor and a general. If you see it like that, then yeah, it's fine, but I'll just briefly present my view. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/14 11:20 PM
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I wouldn't describe the texas/washington example as really an expression of weakness. Most real weaknesses (physical deformities, speech impediments, etc.) are taboo conversation topics, and the only way I'd ever broach my own weaknesses among my peers is by casting it in the form of a strength. I just find weakness in general is opposed to the general goals that TRP strives for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/14 06:14 PM
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This would depend on what you mean by ideal, and why you are performing the actions you are. It also depends on where you are applying them. By ideal I mean someone who really wants to excel in their field, for instance become a future professor. I'll try to clarify my point: Consider a high ranked military officer: his basic job is to make decisions, for instance where an attack should be targeted to kill a group of terrorists. Some intel flows in as to where the terrorists are, but it's not ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/14 05:05 AM
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I'm mostly with you. The only issue I have is if you work a service oriented job; if you're representing a company can you still afford to be alpha when certain expectations are placed on you as to how to treat customers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/14 04:51 AM
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If being alpha means being a leader, don't leaders continue to improve and get better as well? Yes, absolutely. I was just wondering if, say, what it takes to be the ideal student and what it takes to be the ideal leader can sometimes conflict. Yes there is some overlap. So something that could improve me as a student might not improve me as a leader - say, the insane amount of detail required in a research paper might in the long run end up hampering my decisiveness. There is always a trade off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 06:22 PM
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Ok, do you believe a guy should strive to be alpha all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 06:15 PM
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Never said it was, read the last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 05:45 PM
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I see your point, but I think I we could also include the bar scene in that list: you'll see timid men nervously conversing with women, and on the other end of the spectrum you'll find very successful leaders who will confidently and coolly assert their presence. Skipping the philosophy, it's really just a matter of how the term is used. TRP uses the term to describe leadership traits - man could be the only animal to walk the earth and the validity of the concept wouldn't be depreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 03:45 AM
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It doesn't matter, the "validity" of our definitions (whatever this means) don't have to be validated in some strange sense by wolves or some other animal. RP just uses alpha as basically synonymous with leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 03:29 AM
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I don't know if you tinkered with my neuro-chemistry or brain structure a bit it would be like putting a pair of glasses on me and I'd get a perceptual shift, or whether it would completely undo me as a person. You don't need to have ASD to wonder about that; I'm a lifelong stutterer and I have the same general wonder. My own best guess is the "undo" side, and if my experiences with those who have aspergers count for anything I'd say the same about them. I don't know, maybe yours is more mild. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 09:18 PM
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ASD gives me a brain that's technically borked and may eventually be something that can be 'fixed', but my sense of self has been shaped by spending my entire life with that sort of brain. I don't have autism, but I have some friends who do and I'd be a little alarmed if they were to get that "fixed." Obviously I'm viewing this from the outside, but I really have come to like some of the quirks and the unique way that their minds work. Although I only know males with the disorder, they're all ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 06:06 PM
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I don't know what else to say besides sex/sexual activities where the woman plays a dominant role. To my understanding it can be anything from light remarks to the black leather scene to bisexual territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 02:35 AM
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I'm very masculine on paper: I'm in the military, played sports including rugby and boxing in High School and College. I prefer beer over wine, and I like my steaks medium rare. That said, strong (personality-wise), tough feminine women fascinate me. Don't get me wrong - I love leading, but I could maybe see myself doing some femdom in the future. I don't know if it will ever happen, but regardless the duality of both domination and submission fascinate me. One more thing, and this is a little d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/14 09:09 PM
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It depends what you mean by "positive." If you mean like morally upright, then I'm skeptical. If my "positive" you mean more like "capable" then that makes more sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 04:52 AM
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Attractive is not the same as cute when judging a guy; in my mind "attractive" is more like "hot" which is different from cute. Of course women will go for beta, no one's disputing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 04:51 AM
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No one's saying it will make them see you in a positive light afterwards, the only point of a neg is to boost attraction. I find a well timed neg can be effective when it comes to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 03:13 AM
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My domme loves it when I buy her stuff; I can buy her respect, right? Seriously, come on, yes, it can "work." After 4 drinks she might be willing to overlook the fact that you're not a particularly remarkable or confident person, but hey, you're pretty cute and good husband material and that's at least something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 03:00 AM
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Could this just be projection? In my experience almost all "fat hate" is projection. I've never struggled with my weight, and for that reason I can draw very little from the fact that a person is fat. The only one of my non-fat friends who I've even heard comment negatively about someone's weight was a former fatty himself. Without that personal connection there's little to draw the healthy, fit person into really caring about someone else's body. That said I wouldn't date an obese girl, and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 04:44 PM
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ok, but I don't know if I'd describe most people as BP. In my experience it would be more purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 09:33 PM
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TRP attempts to handwave this with "NAWALT" and insisting that they are talking in generalizations, but why are generalizations useful when dealing with individuals? If you refused to generalize you'd be practically incapable of handling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 09:23 PM
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I love this account, but why "reduced?" How can someone be "reduced" to such an incredible, raw state?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 03:24 AM
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Right off the bat, from what I know about TRP, chastity and discipline would be qualities that virtually all RPers would encourage in women (or at least ones they care about or prospective partners.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 03:16 AM
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Could it ever worry you that a woman with a very large partner count just, well, might not be 100% devoted to you? Or is there something special about #122?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 03:08 AM
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It's one thing within the confines of a committed relationship, but what if you're just looking to get laid? I advised a buddy of mine who's a virgin in his 20s to never share that information, and in the rare case that a girl prods into that area he needs to show confidence and show himself capable. Honesty, to some of us, is a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 07:38 PM
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Maybe from a moral/ethical perspective it's wrong in the abstract, but within the standards of "game" - if you're at a bar, on a date, at a club - it should be okay to the extent that it doesn't directly harm the other person (e.g. lying about STDs). What's important here is that you progress forward and forge a connection. It works both ways - a grown man who tells a woman he's a virgin whose never dated will never get anywhere. No one is entitled knowledge to your sexual history, and if faced …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 06:10 PM
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