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You're making a mistake. I'm simply providing a different perspective on the culture war that surrounds PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:53 PM
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They were happier in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:25 AM
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You're right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:04 PM
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You're saying that ignorance is bliss. But I don't think that is true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:51 PM
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Look it up. The statistics don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:57 PM
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Then why do statistics show that women were happier in the 1970's?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:52 PM
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I don't trust you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:43 PM
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Obviously porn is more acceptable. My point is that it will never be fully accepted, nor should it. Your definition of relationship success seems to be based on happiness. But Nature doesn't care about happiness. It cares about procreation, which is and always will be the primary goal of intersex relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:41 PM
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It's not crazy to think some people preserve those views because of a reverence for tradition instead of ignorance. It's not obvious that the cultural revolution is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:36 PM
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It's pretty obvious what I mean. Act tough and aggressive, typically male traits
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:33 PM
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Why didn't it happen in the rat Utopia experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:32 PM
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Put off motherhood and try to act like a man to get ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:35 PM
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Testosterone drives competitiveness is all those fields that women don't have
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:34 PM
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Less and less often
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:33 PM
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If men decided to run daycares I doubt women would view that positively. Each sex has there own sphere. Why is that misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:33 PM
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Men and women just don't compare. They have different roles. What about my views makes you think I've never been in a relationship? I hold the same views men held in the past, and they were never accused of such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:31 PM
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Who says knowing ruins behavior? Knowing has a good but limited effect on behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:29 PM
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Its called behavioral sink. Look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:27 PM
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The taboo is still there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:53 PM
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As far as I know the statistics show that career women have fewer children. Feel free to correct me with a citation. All behavior is influenced by genes. Any genes that cause someone not to breed will be selected against by nature and purged from the population over time. That's simple evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:30 PM
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Yeah huh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:16 PM
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I have. I'm just unsure of whether it confirms my experience.
/r/askTRP04/11/17 01:14 PM
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Can you elaborate on adding "right now" to the end of every sentence?
/r/askTRP04/11/17 01:12 PM
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Basically yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:10 PM
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It's not an argument. I'm not trying to state facts. I'm trying to convey the way things seem from my perspective. Trying to understand women is very different from hating them. Relax
/r/askTRP04/11/17 01:09 PM
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Because as evolution takes it's course, the women who don't reproduce will be wiped from the gene pool and all women left will be concerned with this as I am
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:39 AM
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Fine. But I'm concerned with finding a sustainable option for women that actually want to continue the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:10 AM
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You'd be surprised. Even if you don't convince the OP, there are hundreds of people reading the conversation who could be swayed by your input. There's an old saying, " If the truth can be told in such a way that it is understood, it will be believed. "
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:15 PM
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Fair enough. But correcting their argument is a lot more effective at reaching the truth than deriding their credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:10 PM
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Are you trying to say there is no evidence for biological determinism?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:03 PM
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Actually career women have little to no kids in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:02 PM
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"Crap ish?" Is that your way of agreeing with me (: I get where you're coming from. You can argue that the study measured happiness poorly, but you can't argue that happiness isn't measurable AT ALL, because if that was the case, people wouldn't be able to know happiness when they see it in their everyday lives, and the word wouldn't even exist in our dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:00 PM
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I mostly agree with your points. However, 1) The decreased desire for pregnancy, while it solves a problem, introduces a whole new problem. What do women do in the mean time? There aren't enough jobs fit for women. 2) LGBT can only ever be a temporary solution as they will be removed from the gene pool over time 3) No one is colonizing other planets. Don't kid yourself. The universe is inhospitable except Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:52 PM
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If the evidence points to another conclusion just correct it. That's what science is about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:46 PM
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I'm actually a pretty normal person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:43 PM
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I'm actually pretty open-minded and would love to discuss this with you. Having a conversation is crucial to social change and is the whole reason of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:41 PM
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Artificial uteri is fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:34 PM
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That's all true, but it's still the case that women are pursuing more classically male-centric jobs than ever before. Some fields like business and law are so ruthless that women have to give up their femininity to succeed. Other jobs like University don't have the same pressures to maintain integrity, so females end up changing the field instead of themselves, and the end result is a weakened/corrupted education system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:31 PM
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Women can work certain jobs at a certain pace while reasonably maintaining a family. But a career woman in a tough field denies her motherhood and will not have a genetic legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:22 PM
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Let me clarify. Please read carefully. They did measure happiness: Measures of subjective happiness (questionnaires) "... have been shown to be correlated with physical evidence of affect such as smiling, laughing, heart rate measures, sociability, and electrical activity in the brain (Diener, 1984). Measures of individual happiness or life satisfaction are also correlated with other subjective assessments of well-being such as independent evaluations by friends, self-reported health, sleep qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:16 PM
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Nature always wins in the end. People either compromise and make concessions with nature or they die. Giving up medicine may not be necessary, but some sacrifice is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:08 PM
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They draw blood, dress wounds, give shots, keep records for doctors. It's not all easy, but it's a typically noncompetitive caretaking job which suits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:01 PM
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A legit point. So how was happiness measured? They basically did surveys asking people a series of questions that amounted to asking "are you happy?" So they didn't measure objective happiness, as you stated, but subjective happiness, which according to the paper "... have been shown to be correlated with physical evidence of affect such as smiling, laughing, heart rate measures, sociability, and electrical activity in the brain (Diener, 1984). Measures of individual happiness or life satisfacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:57 PM
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Thanks for the article. No need to hurl insults. It must be bewildering to you how someone like Trump got elected when you can't imagine that people think differently from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:47 PM
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Nursing is a feminine task because it mimics taking care of a child. Simple as that. Men who go into nursing are the exception not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:44 PM
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Men are more competitive than women Women were happier in the 1970s These are facts. If my interpretation of them is wrong, please provide an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:41 PM
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Thanks, I'll check these out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:35 PM
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Attraction and beauty are two different things. If you legitimately think men are more beautiful than men, you are an exception to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:33 PM
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If I'm wrong, I'd like to be taken seriously and shown evidence otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:32 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:30 PM
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Nurses take care of old, sick, or disabled people. Not much more is needed to know. They are government funded so wage competition is not a factor, and they play right into feminine virtues, so nurses can remain good mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:30 PM
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I understand that. My point is that these trends cannot last long because they go against nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:27 PM
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Want to actually debate me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:24 PM
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The backup is that men have evolved tougher bodies and minds to deal with work that women have not. If you don't understand natural selection, I encourage you to read more about it. But the fundamental rule is: those that reproduce define the gene pool and the species. If working women don't reproduce as much, which they don't, their genetic legacy will end and they will lose the game of evolution. Robots already produce plenty of resources that all people could live on. It will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:23 PM
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Males are also psychologically stronger than females, which makes them more competitive and competent for modern jobs. This is part of the reason why, when you look at statistics, modern women are less happy. Because they feel like they have to compete against these men and they're fighting a loosing battle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:14 PM
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We can argue about "how much more acceptable porn is", but here's the point. It is more acceptable, but that's not a good thing. And it will never be fully accepted, because it disrupts a fundamental aspect of mating, the desire for men to pursue women in the first place. A successful relationship is not one that makes you happy. It's one that makes successful children. An unhappy marriage is more likely to do this than a happy uncommitted LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:08 PM
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The truth is work IS divided up between male and female, and always will be. The differences between male and female are extensive, physiological and psychological. Male talents make you better at certain jobs and female talents vice versa. Females pursue jobs that align with feminine virtues, such as nurses and teachers. Women who go against their biology and pursue competitive male-centric jobs like law for example, abandon their femininity and put off motherhood, to be replaced in time by tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:58 PM
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Time not spent pursuing their biological imperative, raising children. Women who work full time rarely raise children effectively. In the long run, women who chose a traditional family life will reproduce more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:49 PM
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Work isn't as physical, but it's just as rigorously competitive. I'd love to see that Harvard study, but women simply can't win against men in all out contest, no matter the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:45 PM
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Idle time means not doing what biology made them to do, raise children. Working is not for women, despite the economic pressures. Women who work more have less children and will be replaced over time by those who chose a family life instead. That's what it means for evolution to catch up. Robots will never replace all jobs. If that was possible it would have happened by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:42 PM
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Okay then let's debate it. I'm genuinely curious What makes you think women are as strong as men. If that's true, why do men and women have to be separated in sports?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:37 PM
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Porn is more acceptable now, but most people still see it as taboo for good reason. It disrupts a fundamental aspect of mating, the drive for men to pursue women in the first place. Marriage IS the marker for a successful LTR because it's the only stable structure for raising a family, which in the long term matters a lot more than "being happy." Social media is the same problem as in the 80's, but they were RIGHT to bitch about it in the 80's. Simply put, there is a mismatch between what biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:34 PM
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Old world views will stick around because they are stable and resilient. And they are stable because they appeal to reality, not imagination. Women are not as strong as men and no amount of hope will make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:19 PM
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I'm unsure of your point, but yes. Men by and large have the majority of tough jobs today, and in the event of a zombie apocalypse, they will be the ones to save society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:15 PM
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Actually you're half right. Women have always seen men as disposable concerning reproduction. However they still rely on them to run society, do the hard jobs, and protect them from threats(police). What has changed is that women's fertility is effectively neutralized by the modern environment and people haven't realized it yet. That's why you still see men pursuing as much sex as they can get even though they have no children as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:12 PM
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The situation is not as rosy as that. Modern generations are getting married less, having sex less, and using porn and social media more, effectively retreating into antisocial behavior. The statistics are clear on this and it's only getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:08 PM
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Because it recognized the reality that biology influences behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:05 PM
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Men have the imperative to mate and to work. That's why nature made them stronger. The economic forces driving women to work go against their weaker constitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:03 PM
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If that's dangerous, please give me an example where this anthropomorphism led science to make incorrect conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:00 PM
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I mean when women are not busy raising children. Women forgo their biological imperative when they pursue work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:57 PM
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Those questions of biology are important! And they're ones that science has made great effort and success in explaining the world. Why are appeals to biology dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:53 PM
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You don't understand natural selection. It is a force of random mutation that is out of our control. And I'm not using it to justify actions, just to explain the way humans behave. Please watch the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:49 PM
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Please read the post before commenting. Femininity is not just "failed masculinity". It's its' own thing, far more complex and important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:47 PM
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Natural selection is what "designs" all life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:43 PM
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Any idea why the men aren't putting in the effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:04 AM
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Oh then yeah, confront your friend or ditch him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:19 PM
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C. Mutual benefit is key
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:16 PM
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Can you elaborate please?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:15 PM
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I think most red pill leaders are fit, but as to why some are not: the most important red pill lessons are about behavior. Confidence and strong frame are the most important. Lifting helps newbies gain confidence, but otherwise looks are secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:14 PM
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What about all the concerns voiced by the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:10 PM
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Your probably right
/r/askTRP12/09/17 02:46 AM
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Thanks for your perspective
/r/askTRP11/09/17 11:36 PM
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This is a very interesting assessment, but I disagree with some things. "You fail sex": Sex is a very quick thing that doesn't require that much time. You just have to insist. "Fail raising your children": From birth to age 6 are the child's most formative years, where the father makes the largest impression. Giving the child a positive masculine role model is the goal and can be accomplished in this time.
/r/askTRP11/09/17 10:27 PM
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I don't know
/r/askTRP11/09/17 10:18 PM
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You gotta give me a little better than that
/r/askTRP11/09/17 10:01 PM
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Please elaborate
/r/askTRP11/09/17 09:58 PM
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But you'll be around in their formative years which is the most important thing, right?
/r/askTRP11/09/17 09:57 PM
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Please explain
/r/askTRP11/09/17 09:26 PM
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Because children need to be brought up in a family with a good mom and dad to be healthy, and according to red pill blue pills aren't real men, and I generally care about the future of humanity instead of "enjoying the decline"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:03 PM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:28 PM
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That's what I was afraid of
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:28 PM
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You are a hopeless ungrateful nihilistic cunt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:26 PM
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So you think Blue Pill men make better dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:19 PM
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I generally agree, and I find it troubling that RP is selfish to the exclusion of future generations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:16 PM
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I read it and you're right, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:45 PM
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Thanks for correcting me. I've learned something today
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:41 PM
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Oh I misunderstood then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:40 PM
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Yes it does. If you raise a child with a woman, you will be opted into "common law" marriage if she decides to split and take your stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:34 PM
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That's good to hear, but explain to me how that doesn't conflict with their advice against marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:30 PM
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I wish
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:29 PM
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Good one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:23 PM
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By the way, female sexual desire doesn't work like male sexual desire. In males, the desire precedes activity, but in females it's the other way around. Females will consent to sex to gain status or commitment, but only after sex will they feel desire for the pleasurable act itself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:13 PM
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Not quite. Being a dominant male hardly makes you a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:09 PM
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Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:09 PM
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If the fat guy gets laid, then he attracted a woman, and that's all that matters. You can call it an attraction to his money instead of his body or personality, but the result is the same, he attracted a woman. Not to mention fat men will be less likely to earn admiration and respect from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:07 PM
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You said that fat rich guys get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 01:57 PM
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If Bill Gates wanted, he could get more sex than almost anyone. The fact that he chooses not to doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of his status
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 01:55 PM
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Being attractive is a prerequisite to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 01:52 PM
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