She did. But did it for herself. I am 100% sure she had at least one good guy in her life who was interested and offered simple boring middle class life.
You do not owe her anything. Just because you two had sex does not mean you must LTR or even marry her. That is the world created in the revolution of the 60s. Trust your instincts, there probably is a reason for your feelings.
It is not hate, it is disgust. I have daughters and I really really do not want them to live like her. To have children without father is morally wrong.
The reason for this "fat shaming" issues were eating disorders. To help understand the unperfection of human bodies. Like everything the progressive leftists touch it turned to madness and stupidity. Be not obsessed with few pounds of fat, bur being obese is a different story.
I recommend Norwegian Tv show "Dag". How a peaceful and organized single man´s life is totally changed by a woman. Watch the first part at least, it is magnificent.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycEjLw2Fuw&t=7s
She doesn´t need a man to survive - because society created by the evil patriarchy is rich enough to support her. But her and her kids life will be miserable without a man.
Wisdom and good character are tools of the patriarchy. Women on FDS openly say "we want date, LTR and marry men we are attracted to". Tingles uber alles.
It is interesting she did not write much about her divorce. I do not believe everything was sunny and shiny and then boom - husband leaves without hesitation. She probably spend too much time at work, was always tired, no sex and no children NOW, when she was expanding her carreer. And when her husband cheated, she just kicked him off, because her ego was so hurt...
Cows are better example than horses. You surely know the "do not buy the cow when the milk is given freely". But now you are expected to build a stall or shelter, feed it and (and often a calf as well), remove the shit - and no milk left for you.
This is the biggest difference between TRP and FDS. TRP: You were wrong with many things. Your unhappiness and failures have reason. You were weak and unattractive. You need to change, to transform yourslef into a better man - many advice there, obligatory lifting, loosing weight, getting mucles, dressing better... And than and only than comes the "PUA" part. FDS? Men are trash, you are perfect, just make more demands, raise your standards (I always imagine Anatolyi Dyatlov and "Raise the power"…
There are so many cases of the child abused, beaten or even murdered by the new boyfriend. Women abandon their families for dark triad Chads, they bring toxic men to their families... The good single motheres spend their time with their children, not dating.
Look at the red pill sub. You can find a lot of advice - what did you wrong and what shall you change. Great analysis od male and female psychology. Even the most common cliche "lifting" is something that costs time and effort. FDS advice? Make more demands, queen.
Better be single for the rest of your life than to be with a woman like that. "Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.” The Bible, Proverbs
same clothes everyday I would recommend 100% merino wool T-shirts. It is not cheap, but it is worth every penny. You can even wear the same for several days :-)
There is only a small pool of people who could manage an open marriage - ultra liberal artists living in metropolitan areas. It is not a model to built civilization on.
I do not understand this obsession with words. It is a magical way of thinking - using a proper word gives you power over a thing.Are we heading back to tribal cultures? Living in a fantasy wolrd (like Eragon, Harry Potter)?
"keep banging to commit to her" It can work for regular man. Sex is still a very deep level of intimacy and it is almost impossible to not develop feelings. Old prostitutes mostly have a small circle of old known clients, the men often help them with repairs, fixing cars, take them to dinners, make small trips... Even in a business relationships like that there are some emotions.if it lasts for some time. But this doesn't work for a dark triad Chad with lots of female attention.
This is good for society - pushes men to run civilization properly. But it is evil heteropetriarchy now. And they are wondering why good men are leaving.
V.I. Lenin wrote about sex, that it is like drinking a glass of water. And after dozens of years of propaganda, it is still not truth. Eotionally, spiritually, religiously... Event non-religious people understand there is something terribly wrong.
earned nothing Often drugs, alcohol, parties, lavish spending, clothes, shoes, bags... Some of them sponsor lifestyle of their cheating Chads and Tyrones.
It is funny. They poison themselves hardly for 20 years to trick their bodies of being pregnant and not to conceive, but after that 20 year they start chasing children desperately.
tall and very good looking Alpha fucks is not enough now, at the age of 35. He must be attractive AND well dressed, social intelligent, liberal, sex positive, rich/succesful, commitment-oriented, children-oriented...
I fully agree on the importance of male (and father's) acceptance for young men. As an only child of a divorced mother I know this personally. Luigi Zoja made a great comment on this - motherhood is biological, but fatherhood is social - every fatherhood is adoption. I recommend his book "The Father" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Zoja
Yep. The worst part of blue pill mindset is "bad boys just trick those innocent angels, they promise them eternal love and commitment/marriage and then just disappear...". Still angry of old myself believing that.
freaked out over a tattoo There is always something missing in stories like that. I have never understood the groupie lifestyle, this "band fanatism". I like music, but only God is worth of worshipping.
Status. When a woman is young and hot, with sooo many options, being single is "empowering". But late thirties? We all have procreation in our subconscious. She is a failure. Her "carreer" was not worth staying single and childless.
Heh. One of our university professors warned us against the "tomorrow phenomenon". I will not study today, better on tomorrow. I will not write that essay today, but tomorrow.
Yes. Women forget that those shy introvert guys with good and stable carreers will not stay naive and goodwill forevere. They are watching, reading and studying. They are sharing experience. Sooner or later they will end here, despite all the quarantines. And even if there was no manosphere, at the age of 35, when men are established in their jobs, make some money, have hobbies they love, the incentive of leaving all this diminsh every year. Women have limited amount of eggs, men have limited am…
Those medieval raids are paid off - you became the same Catholic Christians like all those Saxons, French or Italians. Now its time to pay for the Thirty Years' War and the Deluge.
Thinking of heels: there is a great movie "Dangerous beauty". I remeber training of that top tier courtisan - height is the basic, wearing very, very high heels. And forget about kids, drinking some potion. Damned, it looks like education of modern women.
You are a clever and honest man. I do not offer a solution, but two Catholic habits that may be helpful: 1) fasting it is an interesting coincidence - next week starts the "Lent" - 40 days without meat, one meal and 2 snacks on Wednesdays and Fridays. Try it. 2) pilgrimage I know there are covid restrictions, but it will be better during summer. Watch the movie "The way" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1441912/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_37
What self respecting man would date a 29 year old with 5 kids? There is one situation. If you have a very good friend, a brother in arms, he is dying and asks you to look after the widow and the children.
If you look at this picture, the true cruel and arrogant person is the female. Look at her mouth. Dita von Teese is a much more respectable and trustworthy woman for me, and she did not tell anything bad about Manson. The same Winona Ryder and Vanessa Paradis in Johny Depp´s case.
Beating the wife (and children) was not a tradition. Punishing the wife and children was husband´s/father´s right and responsibility. And people understood the difference between strict justice and cruelty.
That's why physical activities are recommended. Lifting is a cliche here, but it is woth it. But swimming, walking, jogging, box, whatever is good as well. Burn the anger in your muscles.
I know there are married men and fathers on this subreddit. Let's make a sall non-scientific survey. One simple question. How long have you been dating your future wife, before you decided to get married. Or more exact - how long did you know each other before you decided to have children?
Runnig a household with two adults and more than two children is a serious management job. I have never seen a man with larger family that does not respect that.
Good, pleasant feminine personality trumps looks. I love Irish music, now watch Angelo Kelly and his family. His wife is not a supermodel, but there is something about her...
There is no such thing as an anti feminist woman It depends. In my country, feminists are a tiny minority, with some media attention. Women have all the (legitimate) rights - vote, property, education, jobs - there is no need for activism. Mission accomplished, let´s go home.
Guys also know what they're allowed to say online and what they're not allowed to say. We (behind the Iron curtain) knew this very well between 1948-1989. It makes me san and angry that is back again.
Well, at 24 I was a poor shy student, I would happily accept a pretty girl with some "past". And I think there is a big difference between street hookers (mostly on drugs) and higher level, intelligent escorts. Why would she risk shame and loss of income? Common girl is more risky of unprotected sex with Chads than an escort with customers.
They do not understand how boys mature. I would probably accept a former escort girl at the age of 24. But ten years later? Dating? Some sex practise? Why not. But cohabitation or even marriage? With M. Thatcher's tone: NO NO NO!
horribly fat/physically disgusting And with terrible, unpleasant personality. Physical flaws are often overlooked when the girl is kind, that type you are happy to be around.
MGTOW is NOT a cult. The manosphere does not offer salvation. You can find wisdom, advice, stories of others. It is your job how to use all of this. At this stage of life - focus on yourself, pay off the debt, loose weight, get some muscles, enjoy your free time... You are lucky to be free.
We all want this. That´s why stories like Lord of the Rings are so succesful. We want an adventure, find a true friend and rescue a fair lady. Lucky ones who did this.
work hard for m'lady Perfect example of patriarchy and toxic masculinity. Men should work hard for themselves and enjoy compay of equal, strong and independent women. Shouldn´t this be a high school teaching?
It is not brainwashing, but basic biology. Basic instinct for survival. What they truly do not understand are the changing conditions of relatiomships and cohabitation.
There is nothing wrong with rage or anger. Men have emotions. Just not let yourself be consumed with it. A physical activity may help - running, swimming, lifting... Use it as a fuel and burn it. And you will become more fit and healthy.
One of best red pill talks I ever had was with a middle-aged man, a passionate hunter. I was buying some ammo from him. He said that at first women like the adventure and the meat, I like cooking. But after a while they start bitching about time. Never compromise your legitimate hobbies for a woman, it is not worth it. It is easier to find a woman than a thing you are really into. He was a regular man, bald, berr belly, not tall, probably not rich. But happy and confident.
The forgot to tell that patriarchy ment a lot of hard work and responsibility for men and more provider qualities than fun qualities. Now they scream "not enough economically attractive men to marry" and we can only laugh. What did you expect?
It is sarcasm - but reality as well. Soviet Union proclaimed their ideology as "scientific". They removed religion and the church from public life, released very liberal laws on marriage, encouraged "free love". SU was the first state that allowed abortions. And western intellectuals were fully for it. Mussolini was inspired by Lenin. FDR´s administration was full of Soviet symphathisers, New Deal was inspired by Soviet methods... Senator McCarthy was actually right.
It is funny that in cases of abortions, free love, lesbianism or escorting they are in the 21st century. But getting married, victorian times are already there. The same with alimony.
Some black guy on TRPsub wrote a post like "I do not date white women to corrupt your princesses. I have an Ivy league degree, a prestigious well paid job and I work out a lot. I do not meet any black women at work, gym or library and I do not want to be a monk".
Good story. May I ask two questions? 1) where do your parents live (village, town, city), are the college/university educated people? 2) do you like Tolkien and his works?
I agree. That guy did not invest money, but he did invest something - a lot of time. Women spend years waiting for chad to settle, and now magically she doesn't have few weeks to know this guy?
They are lying to themselves. "I want a man that will treat me with respect, so I write someting like that, and I fell good". When she meets a hawt guy, the tingles change that feelings.
When you mention history, there is one interesting thing about fall of Rome. The armies that conquered Rome, Goths and Vandals, they were not massive hordes of barbarians, it was just a few thousands of men. Rome that resisted to Celts, Teutons and Carthagians, that recovered after decesive defeats, fell to such a tiny attack.
Now your time and money is only yours. You will have plenty of it if you give up on women. Use it wisely. If you are overweight/not fit, start with enough sleep, eating well (learn to cook), walking/jogging, exercise... Are you dumb (uneducated)? Start reading. Improve your qualification. Are you religious? If yes, get the Bible or some spiritual literature. C.S. Lewis is a good start. What about savings? Make a reasonable plan, according to your income - 500, 1000, 10 000, whatever.
Sometimes language tells it itself. In Czech we have several words for "dating", but the most common in my young was "chodit" - that literally means "walking with someone". Maybe more walking and less fucking may help, but I am not sure if it is possible in these times.
To be honest, she probaly tried to tame down a Chad in her 20s... I have never seen a good hearted average/above average looking guy dumping a pretty girfriend (if no metal issues were involved).
Yes. The father was terribly missing in both the OP and the journalist's response. Like he doesn't exist. Or isn't important or can not give advice? I don't thing she is a widow.
Let them flourish. They call themselves "dating strategy", but they didn´t develop anything close to the red pill theory. Just to make more demands and withold sex. They are just removing themselves from the marketplace. Greetings to Mr. Darwin.
Some of the fatties are biggest slut just because the low self esteem. If she is just fat and not morbidly obese (great difference), she can get dick pretty easily. A confident beauty is often satisfied just with the attention she gets and doesn't have to sleep with everyone.
Imagine a guy that is angry, tired and drunk and writes something racist/misoginistic/homophobic. Just once in his life of a kind and supportive human and 10 years ago? The past is the past, isn't it?
It is funny that a lot of those "boring" men have a lot to talk about, have interesting hobbies, have a lot to offer. I was never bored by a "boring" man.
I once read a story (probably AITA subreddit) of a guy trying to teach his female cousin he liked and cared for, that having a n-count of 84 at the age of 21 is a bad idea and it will ruin her future. Of course HE was the asshole and most of the comment considered this as a healthy sex life and that is nothing wrong in it. Unbelievable.
other European royal who married a single mom waitress Crownprince of Norway, a handsome guy I think. And he chose from all the women in Norway a single mother with "lack of education, previous relationships with convicted felons (father of the child of course) who openly admits "experienced a rebellious phase before. Disgusting.
There is a difference between fat and obese (and even morbidly obese). There are thousands of people suffering from mental anorexia, i think the idea was accept your body, accept, that you are not like those perfect people in the magazines, but it went too far.
It is not. My college friend went for older ladies on purpose. He just wanted to train sex without drama (he was handome and fit, but shy and insecure). Of course he ended with an attractive slim YOUNG woman.
I once read a pretty good article about it. A family living together, three generations of single mothers. Granny was about 50. It ended with the 16yo granddaughter getting pregnant.
Yes. These 20s will not be boring. It would be great just to live normally, work, raise children, meet family members and friends... I am afraid to read the news.
Marriage has always been a conservative and religious institution, even in pagan times bride and groom were taken under protection of gods. Avoiding marriage should be VERY progressive. Woman´s liberation and free love (A. Kollontai)... What is the problem?
True. Women have limited amount of eggs, a limited window to procreate. And men have a limited amount of tolerance and good will. When you are single with a good income, you can make a perfect comfortable life for yourself. The older you are, the less you want to lose it. And no "Peter Pan" shaming can change this. It is not only the woman's body that changes, the men she meets change as well.
It is instinct - and also status. A barren women is a spinster, women with children and grandchildren has respect. The Romans had a great word for it: "matrona".
Netflix is junk food I agree. There are plenty of good films even from the US, when you watch European and Japanese movies as well, one life is not enough.
You took your fiance from the Philippines to the US? I hears those women change their bahaviour when in a First world country and the follow their new "sisters".
It is not about skin colour, it is about culture and values. Men and and women are different, also patriarchal and matriarchal values are different. When paternal influence is erased, something bad happens. No one is immune to this.
THIS is the final black pill. It is not about looks or about height or money or status. If this is the price for being attractive to females, I would rather stay alone called gay or incel.
It is funny that just 23 years ago, in May 1945, Soviet tanks were welcomed and celebrated as liberators, honestly and with full heart. And the first Soviet tank that arrived to Prague had number 23... I do not know about the standards of post Soviets republics, but Central-East European countries are doing pretty good, even without all those young people moving west. We are glad that the absurdity of communism has gone and we do not understand why the Western world is doing exactly the same we …
Studying medicine is hard, working is even harder, use your time wisely. Learn as much as you can, when your brain is young and fresh. Be humble, find a friend and a mentor. Concerning women: do not worry, focus on yourself, find a good department and a type of work you will like. They will find you. I have a friend who was invisible at college. Average looking, slim, not tall, kind, nerdy, underestimates himself a lot. We meet once a year because he lives far. After graduation, almost every mee…
Almost none, I was too young, but I remember how happy everyone was when they left. But for generation of my parents it was a forming experience. One day in August they woke up - and there were tanks in the streets.
Well, it is "fault" of those men they do not want to commit. But should they commit? Should they even want to commit? It is their freedom and wildness that makes those men attractive. I do not believe she was dating some shy good-hearted Tolkien fan.
I am a 38yo physician. Definitely not super rich or a "winner", but I have a stable job I love with above average income. Probably a sufficient partner for this lady. Would I be interested? Hard NO. Too late, dearie, I am married. I met my wife at the college at 21.
I recommend books and articles by Rod Dreher. He studied life of dissidents behind the Iron curtain,,, that is closer to the US than muslim countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis
We are not "strong". Every man has his own flaws/weakness/history. Do not overthink the red pill a MGTOW. Just live, earn your bread, lose weight (or gain mucles), pay off your loans, do whatever you like. And fear no darkness.
no benefit in marriage Only religious benefits. If you are an honest believer (Jew, Christian, moslem), marriage is the only place to have sex and to raise children.
fucking simple Yes good/average men ARE simple. Crazy men or psychopaths are complicated. It is interesting, that female zookeepers dealing with chimps and gorillas (much stronger and more dangerous than humans) perfectly know how to handle them.
I was banned permanently on the LOTR subreddit only by insisting that Tolkien elves are not black (there was a small black female cosplayed elven king Thranduil).
neglecting the truth as well It is not just neglecting, it is a lie. She wrote about men that go into another relationship closely after break up, but women need a lot of time to recover. Oh, we know who does monkey-branching, aren't we?
"Marry us after we've fucked 100+ different men" And do not waste time and money dating and fucking 100+ different women. Study hard and work hard to provide for the children I will deliver to myself.
Fuck him too soon, he thinks I'm a slut. Make him wait too long, he dumps me and moves on. This goes both ways. Push for sex - be seen as player, be respectful - get friendzoned. I am so sick of it all. I felt pity for her a bit, but then I remembered all the orbiters waiting for years, happy for every smile, hug, cheek kiss, getting nothing more.
Didn't the fat model Ashley Graham say literally that? She has slept with half of New York but her husband was soooo special she let him wait till wedding night. What a winner.
My mother once talked about homosexuality with me and she is deeply convinced it all comes from boredom and living too well and safe. The older I am, he more I agree. Some people may be hit by this defect, but a lot of them just chose it.
The greatest marriage counselor is Dag Refsnes. I truly recommend the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycEjLw2Fuw&t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WliynaRjGeE
This woman was sentenced for stabbing her lover - and was a prostitute for 20 years. Some men payed to fuck this: https://www.idnes.cz/plzen/zpravy/foto/VB6deb8e_20170911_082222.jpg
She destroyed everything. She met a good guy at college, deep connection by her own words... Best choice is to stay with the guy, explore her sexuality with him, get married, work hard, have kids... But reason and logic are tools of the patriarchy.
I recommend the film "Dangerous beauty". https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118892/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2 A strong scene where they meet a low level prostitute that was a top courtisan pre-wall. How all the stories end.
I once rean a fantasy where they trained a technique called "heart of stone". Nothing special, just imagine the bunch of emotions and turn your heart to stone.
Go on and fear no darkness! It is funny that all the liberal liberals accepting all the diversity would analyze you and speculate about child issues or sexual disorders... The older I am, the more I like peace and solitude and the less I care about opinions of others.
How is it with "parental approval" in the Arabic world? My gf travelled to Egypt and their guide worked very hard to have enough money for a flat. No own home - no marriage.
We have a great novel about this in my country, called "Jan Cimbura". It is a real story of a farmer, a righteous man, who promised to his brother-in-arms that he will look after his family. The friend was seriously ill and after his death, Cimbura married the widow. He was respected and loved for treating his friend´s kids and his own kids as equal. But it was the 19th century.
Her sister was lucky, but she could fuck up many times. She could abort the baby, cheat on her husband, divorc There are many temptations for a pretty woman.
I once read a story about a band of young male elephants in an African national park. They were doing atrocities like attacking other animals, even killing a rhinoceros. They were the only elephants in the reservation, so they did not want to shoot them. But they found solution - they import a grown, strong elephant bull, and he maintained discipline.
A solo vacation is a dream. I was always interested in history, i like to visit old towns, go to museums, castles, interesting places. I am always late because i want to read everything, all the tables and descriptions. And I hate just to visit a famous place, make few photos and move, I want to spend time, feel the atmosphere, enjoy the food...
There is one thing I do not understand. Western society is obsessed with abortions. It seems like the only human right is to kill unborn babies. Yet when the baby survives and is born, it becomes a center of everything, like some pagan idol.
Red pills are wisdom as well, but yes. Red pills: Do not be obsessed with women, work hard, be fit, live a happy life... The ultimate black pill: you are not her best option, whatever you do.
I'm not sure what exactly is driving them away Personality. It is always personality. Men are of course attracted to beautiful women, but most of them understand that beibg kind and pleasant is more important long term. Beauty will disapper one day, kindness lasts till death.
Well, they put much more effort - better make up, better clothes, better hairstyle. Thay can look better on camera. But in real life and closer...not at all.
I once read an article about the resistance movement during WWII. When they were caught and tortured by the Gestapo, those masculine muscular badass types were those who were broken easily. Shy inconspicuous balding officials with glasses stood much longer.
This is NOT confidence. This is impudence. I understand the basics of the "body positivity" movement, we all are not perfect, but enough is enough. There is a significant difference between "few pounds more" and obesity.
It is the society that turns to dystopie, not women. I am not American, I am from behind the Iron curtain. It is scary to see how it becomes similar to what we had before 1989, cancel culture, punishments for opinions or songs.
Enjoy your free time and do not give up. High school is just a bunch of people brought together. College/university is much better - you will meet people with same passions and interests. If you choose a good one - STEM, medicine, vet, whatever, you definitely will not be the only clever nerdy guy there.
Czech guy here. Central Europe is not a paradise, but people had enough brainwashing before 1989, they more resistant to modern ideologies. We are less afraid to honestly say what they mean. Life is peaceful and quiet here. If you are not a troublemaker, you can have a good life here.
They aim for the top 10-20% of men and surprise surprise, they meet another women there. And who did support the sexual revolution and sexual liberation. Note: I read an article about general Carl Clausewitz. He first met his wife in 1803 an married her in 1810! Men are defintely able to wait fr their future wife, but will all the "liberated" women, why?
There was once an article about a man that was molested as child, he told his girlfriend and she lost all respect for him. And the complain about "victim blaming" and MeToo.
blame on contraceptive pill for their desire for alpha males It is the opposite. Pregnant women want and need providers. Alphas are for conception. Some women admit they lose attraction for their boyfriends when they stop using the pill.
We can only hope in switch of the pendulum. Like Winston and Clemmie Churchill - the had a very succesful marriage lasting for decades, and both their mothers were whores.
Yes. The "one thing led to each other"... You cannot control whom you are attracted to. But you can control your behaviour - not to meet him, talk to him, flirt with him.
The most funny thing is, when they admit they met an objectively HVM, cute, good career, respects and treats them well - and they are not attracted to him.
Have you seen the film "Ghost dog?" Louie : Jesus, Vinny. You just iced a woman, you know that? Vinny : You know what you are, Louie? You're a fuckin' male chauvinist pig. Louie : What do you mean, I'm a male chauvinist pig? You just shot a broad. Vinny : A cop. I just shot a cop. They wanna be equal? I made her equal.
Good men aren't scared away by risks." That is where they are wrong. Psychopaths aren't scared. That is why there are a lot of them in CEO positions ... and in prison. That is why the bad boys (dark triad!) are so attractive for women.
There is a great Czech novel "The Good Soldier Schweik". A lot of absurd humor. One of the quotes is " This is brother of that murdered man, he is probably a villain as well". Read it, very useful for the 21st century.
no one at MIT is getting laid any more. And that is great. All the clever guys will focus on science, not chasing pussy. We will see a lot of technological progress.
Remember: TRP or MGTOW is not a cult. We do not offer salvation. You are totally free to do whatever you want. But you have acces to a lot of experience and wisdom. Use it well, take care of yourself, focus on your education and live as happily as you can. And avoid whores and single mothers.
It is still possible to have a healthy baby (even more than one) at this age. I have seen in. But those women were not CC riders or waiting for the right one (Mr. Big). They were trapped in one or two long term relationships that lead to nowhere. They were a bit desperate after breakup, but not enough to seek for men in clubs or online. They met decent partners through social circle or work. Doctors, engineers, teachers. Not super rich GigaChads but kind people.
pursue, even begin, a career after your kids are in school True. Also: most people do not have careers, they have jobs. It is important to have a qualification, just in case, but maybe only a small % of jobst is worth staying childless.
It is culture-based. Look at the fairy tales. The guy has to do something great to get the princess and half of the kingdom. Kill a dragon, giant, an evil wizard, gain some magic stuff, qualify for the girl. A little joke. Hero: I promised to bring three dragon heads and here they are. KIng: I see. You will get heart of the princess and her hand.
Well, you should show respect when it is expected. Like in the times of Third Reich, you should love Hitler or Stalin in the USSR. Your real thoughts are for you and closest friends.
Correct. There is this slightly little time in the 20´s, when the best bonds, commitments and marriages are formed, when the boys do not yet become cynical and the girls are not used to the carousel.
There were times when the "fun" ended with graduation, finishing the college. Then it moved to the age of 30. Now it is over 40. What will happen in next 10 years? Women on Tinder seeking for comfortable retirement?
Well done. Something similar is in a Bollywood film, concentrated in these two songs(and videos): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30tnmyzgRSI&list=RDu3h1DvwH6yM&index=4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcRhNy-6iok
The party is NOT over. The party never ends. But now it is all said and done. There is nothing new at the party. The most interesting people are leaving. The best meals are eaten, the best wine is drunk. Lets leave for something new, something real...
It is a normal men's instinct - to help, to fix things, to be useful... And a cynical POW - guys doing it are insecure, so they choose women in problems and hope, that those women will be grateful and will not leave them...
And why not to go to that date? There is a great Norwegian show called "Dag". Watch the first part here (move to 2m30s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycEjLw2Fuw I always remember Dag Refsnes dating when I hear stories like that.
Another psychological explanation is that her defences are so strong that only some dark triad sociopath may overcome it. Someone who does not take "no" for answer.
being broke cause her gas station job and onlyfans don't pay enough Another winner of feminism. Because creating a home for a hard working man is so much patriarchal oppression...
She is not "kicked out of the cock carousel". The carousel never stops. But the quality of horses declines and so does the pleasure gain on the carousel.
It is funny, but also sad. Women are lost. They were taught that being feminine and doing female obligations is something less, but they are unhappy being males.
It is funny how she uses the word "shy" to describe multiple sexual relationships. I do not want to know what "social" or "outgoing" mean in this context.
men want sex And that is why traditional societies added transactional issues in it. Sex for commitment, protection, status. Feminism attacks this transactional part of relationships as "oppression", "patriarchy", "misogyny" and returned them tu pure physicality. The problem is: 1) Not all men can create tingled by first sight 2) pure physical attraction does not last forever
“The truth is not always beautiful, nor beautiful words the truth.” Lao Tzu Women do not want to hear the truth, nor do they want solution. That is men´s way of thinking. Women want to complain, they want to share emotions. Look at the differences between FDS and TRP.
Yes. Like all the "strong independent women" bullshit. The problem with those women is not strenght and independence, but the competition "I do not need you, I am better than you". Every men is tired after a while.
Logic is truly a tool of the patriarchy. Children are not the end of life. You can travel a lot and level up your carreer at 50, when the children begin to leave.
They do not understand that we have enough struggle and competition at work.We do not want to compete with our girlfriend/wives. And we do not want to forever compete with another men for our spouses.
I once read an article from 19th century, they complained about too many British men marrying Indian women, that those women are so kind a pleasing their husbands, that they do not want to deal with entitlement of European women any more...
Women have limited amount of eggs, men have limited amount of patience and good will. The older we are, the more we appreciate peace, solitude and free time. Dag Refsnes tells it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycEjLw2Fuw#t=2m46s
The manosphere is often called "bunch of misogynists and incels", but you can find much better analysis and advice. The most important one: you are unsuccesful with girls because you do wrong, you need to change (body, appearance, hobbies, daily routine). This professional Polly did not give any advice, just showed she can use CapsLock.
I don't ever think an alpha with a 25yo 9 would drop her for a 35yo 7 for the same reason I agree. This why it is so often in romantic comedies. The true love bullshit. Choosing a mature woman ready to settle over the young ones that want only "fun".
She is not conventionally beautiful, but she is attractive for a considerable segment of men. Those who like Stoya :-) But for a stereotypicla Cahd she is just a notch, to have an Asian in bed.
She is pretty, a solid7/10 for me (subjective, of course), but if there is no inner beauty, better leave her alone. And those "on top of the world" are the most insecure one.
girl's night with her college friends This. If she really had changed, she would cut off those "friends". Women mostly do not have long life friendships, they easily close new ones and abandon the old. A true convert will make a new social circle. A recovering alcoholic abandons his drinking buddies too.
This was discussed on FDS several times. That low n-count is bad, because he would probably want more sexual experience, and high n-count is bad for "slut shaming". Say some number from 3-10 that will not stress him and continue. They always mix attractive men with all men.
Very well said. I would only add phycical activity. Lifting is a red pill cliche, but walking/jogging/running can help as well. Use all the negative emotions as a fuel and burn them in your muscles.
From a point of view, we are just apes, intelligent primates. Our closest relatives (chimps, gorillas, orang-utans) are kept in zoos very often. And most of the zookeepers are women. And there are almost no serious accidents. Primate behavior is predictable. If they can treat apes well, why it is sucha problem with men.
Imagine the Zulu attacking a modern European army with spears. Imagine the Ethiopians fighting Italian tanks and warplanes. Haha, stupid savages, the should buy better weapons, shouldn´t they? This is how the Nice Guys are treated. Do they have any other help and advice than the manosphere?
The lifestyle of Carrie Bradshaw looks so cool, and at the end is Mr. Big. The sad thing - her instinct is right. Her feminist friends will explain it is just a tool of the patriarchy and "you go girl".
It depends on age and intentions. Alpha is not synonym to womanizer. You do not need to fuck severel women at a time, just the possibility to do se. Even attractive guys want family, at least some of them. It is truly a Game, balance between slut/lady and needy/gentleman.
Even an Alpha guy would wait for an interesting girl. Not too long, of course, but if you had some experience and success in the sexual marketplace, , it may be refreshing to date some old school girl.
No sympathy for her. Every woman with this "bad luck" had at least one decent guy in her life, that would love her deeply and bring the world to her feet. Every one of them. Most of the time her friends, parents or siblings even know the guy and understand he would be perfect for her, but no, he is too small/fat/skinny/shy/nerdy, and she rather chases a toxic Chad. And at the age of 30, the will to commit rapidly declines, even if the guy was a nice one at the beginning.
And they wonder why good men are leaving. Life is not fun. It is a lot of struggle and suffering and boredom. Traditional religions are balanced systems - prayrs, family life, work, common days - and days of feast.
Well, I was thinking of king Theoden more than of FDR, because there are a lot of things to fear (and FDR was an elitist bastard that destroyed the old free America). You are young, so enjoy every second. A splendid Norwegian show for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycEjLw2Fuw&ab_channel=Fangu
At first I was afraid girls began to date incels/fat nerds/neckbeards, helped them to improve and then dumed by the cruek mel... But no, nothing for the 80%.
Sex segregation. It works perfectly in Iran. Their women are educated and in manager jobs, but only in female environment. So why there is tension between the USA and the IRoI?
You exactly decribe life in the 80s behind the Iron curtain. It was not a bloody dictatorship anymore, but you had to be careful. It is funny how the wheel of time rotates. And yes, socialism declared itself as the true freedom :-)
The problem with carreer women is that they are highly competitve and they most show you how greyat and succesful they are. Or not just show, they throw it in your face, almost everyday. And they live intens life with partying, a lot of travelling, and live in environment with a lot of attractive men always prepared for "fun". It might be great for a moment, but marriage?
men are willing to burn a bit more money in order to keep women out of the workforce and from taking over their companies because they're afraid of competition So why don't women create their own businesses. The IT industry began to grow from the 80's... Perfect opportunity to create something new.
It is even worse. If some fairy godmother intervenes and send this man into her life, dou you think she will love him? No. It will be: this guy is perfect, i know this, but I do not FEEL it...
What a bitch. Live happily with your dogs or cats. One patriacharchal video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XrvZCyrxTE&ab_channel=VeronikaMarieRybov%C3%A1 This is something you will never have.
RosshV whrote a lot how unsuccesfull he was in the SMP and how he learned Game. He is not a natural Apha guy. And his conversion was not only about girls and sex, his sister died from cancer at young age.
The older we are, the more we appreciate it. There is a lot written in the manospere about 30+ women, the Wall, empty eggs, changings of female body, lack of "good men"... But men also change, they lost most of the good will and tolerance of bullshit
Go on, and fear no darkness. Two songs for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSMYJvNIakE&list=RDpSMYJvNIakE&start_radio=1&ab_channel=Yossarian819 and a romantic one, from better times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPsjgkecGzs&ab_channel=PavlaSva%C4%8Dinov%C3%A1
Do not worry about the ban, people were banned for less. And yes, you are right. Everyone of us has to accept that he can not please everyone. He even should not.
Dude, this is neither a church nor a cult. Do whatever you want, you do not have to please anyone. Just do not marry and do not overinvest. And always repeat: she is not yours, she is just your turn.
Well, most people will tell you taht you overinvest and overcomplicate things... Do, whatever you want, and do not expect much. Remeber - it is Game, not War. I know there is plenty of good music in English, but for your consideration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GVGONSIobI&ab_channel=Hrdza
Men in their 40s can be perfectly happy with a simple lifestyle - wake up, hygiene, work, drink a pint, watch a movie, hygiene, go to sleep. We are not bored.
I am not even 40, but I can support this. I need other people - for electricity, water and food. But I do not need women. I am perfectly happy for myself. It is fine to be with a woman, but is even better with my books, my computer, car or guns.
Dude, you do not have to believe in God or in the Church, you do not have to understand what it is all about, just sit there. Or you can just run, or lift, or drink a few beers.
I am not. And I am not some young brainwashed Christian. I am a practical man. But I needed a space where I can be nothing and everything. Peace, solitude and silence.
Better buy som gold/silver American eagles offline (cash), talk to nobody and hide it wisely. A silver Eagle every month and golden Eagle every year will make a lot in 20 years.
You were not blind and stupid. You were just a good guy that wanted to the the right thing and create something. You bet and lost. But you have still the time and power to recover. Ride, and fear no darkness..
You are a man and you are disposable. No one cares. Accept it. The best advice I can give you: attend a Latin Catholic Mass (Missa Tridentina). It is the only place in the world where you can be yourself and in the presence on God. You do not have to believe in anything. Just go there and kneel.
I once rean and article written by a woman that married her husband during college. How it was great to grow up together, finish collend, first jobs, first appartment... I met my wife in college too, and it is great tho have memories of our own.
As a non-English speakare, I politely ask for some teaching. Do you know any other good adjectives to describe this? I think of: Loud. Insufferable. Irritating.
and thus this sub has an endless supply of content. Very well said, sir. It would be a great day for humanity when mods close this sub because there is no new content.
Because life is not only fun and pleasure. To go deeper means struggle and sacrifice. The great advantage on our times - we can do whatever we want and no one can stop us, even parents or some government. But all magic comes with a price. Some guzs want a family one day.
She does not wont to be helped. She just want to complain, share emotions, and get support like "It is all men's fault". Men want to understand the problem a solve it. Women mostly not.
It looks like men should be robots. Work hard, make a lot of money, stay fit, have high EQ (Game), be a reliable efficient fuckmachine, when the lady wants just "fun", do not bother her with love or commitment (needy! desperate!), but when the lady wants some intimacy, forget everything and come like a puppy. So disgusting...and sad.
You probably mean "FSSPX" (Society of Saint Pius X.). They truly are not in full union with the Catholic Church. But the Latin Mass is a legitimate form of the Catholic Mass and there are priests that retain the Tridentine Mass and are fully Catholic. If you really want just to worship God and do not want to be disturbed by people, attend the Latin Mass.
Women feel. And then they rationalize their feelings. When she is happy with a man, she overlooks everything. When she is not, every little mistake or conflict becomes "abuse", even if the man did not change at all.
America is and always has been extreme - puritanism and porn industry, workaholism and laziness, segregation and diversity madness, pacifism and burnig German Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese cities... I am Central European, we still have some common sense here, but we are now about 2000 of the USA. I still hope we will see the mistakes that were done, and avoid it.
I think it is because all the issues discussed here (single motherhood, chasing badboys, sluttiness, drama) are much in the black community. Good men have it worse there - look at Will Smith.
It is not as easy. Motherhood is biological, fatherhood is social. Fatherhood is adoption. The Romans understood this better, the newborn child was laid to the feet of "pater familias" and only when he raised the child, it was full accepted to the family. Father is the first important man in a woman´s life, it is necessary for her to be accepted, provided a protected, to feel secure, to develop self-respect.
stepford wives or a doormat Remember, it is a Game. Dating and seducing women is a Game (not war), but also maintaining a relationship. The easiest way how to push a man to do something is play the Game "Me the weak woman cannot do this because I am afraid of the spiders in the basement". The thing is done, man feels brave and useful, everyone is happy. Men are so easily to handle, it is sad that women mostly lost this ability.
Nice guys/betas were unsuccesful in the dating market, so they developed the red pill theory. Women did not get the comittment they wanted, and created FDS.
There are only religious reasons to get married in 21st century. If you are not church people do not get married. To have a common surname is not much of an advantage.
This. We make jokes abou "empty eggs", but there something similar with. Good will. The older I am, the more cynical and selfish I am. Dating, spending time, having fun, hooking up, why not? But getting married? Come on... Women hit the Wall in appearance, but we also wake up one day different.
Then I am glad to meet you here on reddit. I am sorry, but my English is not good enough to discuss on this level, so I add something from G.K. Chesterton: "It is the ultimate and absolute evil, the refusal to take an interest in existence; the refusal to take the oath of loyalty to life. The man who kills a man, kills a man. The man who kills himself, kills all men; as far as he is concerned he wipes out the world." And a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghji1NujJSc&ab_channel=TheBarraMacN…
I don´t know if really on easy mode, but they have everything they wanted (or claimed they want?): education, careers, divorces, birth control, sexual liberation, laws againt domestic violence and sexual harassment... I do not understand the unhappiness.
The word "rape" has lost its meaning. Everything sexual the woman does not like is rape. Look at Harvey Weinstein. He invited an adult women to his hotel room, she willingly comes and he raped her? And after a week he invites her again, she arrives and is raped again? Common sense is lost.
Yes. Her life was so perfect and safe, that she had to create some drama. Sadly it cost life of an innocent child. I am so disgusted. I love a simple, peaceful life, reading, listening music, drinking beer with my decent friends - physicians, engineers, lawyers, teachers, making trips with our children, travelling by local trains...
Good post. When i read it, i thought on two politicians: Antonio de Oliveira Salazar and Ernesto Che Guevara. Let´s guess who´s picture is on T-shirts.
V. I. Lenin once wrote something like "to have sex is somethinhg like to drink a cup of water". It were marxists and other leftist that pushed the sexual liberation. And now, when they have won, they push prudery again.
MGTOW is not a cult - you do that and be blessed, do that and be cursed. It is just a worlview, a set of thoughts and advice. You do not have to be a monk. If you are religious, God is No 1, not women, or that One women. If not religious, your life and happines shall be No 1. Only your own children are worth of sacrifice.
Great post about reading. You will improve your knowledge and grammar, you really widen your perspectives. Read classics, not only Anglosaxon, but also Russian. And as a Czech mysels, I strongly recommend "The Good soldier Schweik", a pperfekt guide for the clown world.
I can not understand how people can be bored in this time. There are so many things to do: people have easy acces to good films, books, travelling is cheaper than ever, you can learn foreign language for free with YT... you can attend some church or charity activities, buy a piece of land and create a garden, whatever.
She doesn´t want help or advice. She wants to hear, that she is perfect and men are bad. Her problem can be solved easily. Do not base your relationships on tingles.
One of the hardest red pills - we live mentally in our teens. Women do not forget their prime, and succesful competent men still does not knoe their worth in their thirties... Anyway, sex is for children, adult men can drink it off.
Nihil novum sub sole. https://www.msn.com/cs-cz/zpravy/newspanorama/marta-gottwaldov%C3%A1-prost%C3%A1-a-tlust%C3%A1-prvn%C3%AD-d%C3%A1ma-ud%C4%9Blala-ostudu-kam-p%C5%99i%C5%A1la/ar-BBZKMv0#image=BBZKSOA|4 (wife of first communist president of Czechoslovakia)
The "life positivity" is a bit forced (in my mother language we use the word "convulsive" in that situations, I am not sure if it is useable in English), but she is not fat and does not look bitter.
being divorced with kids at all She probably locked an alpha, had children with him, he was still attractive for women, left for a younger one (man´s fault). Or she did not want to leave the party lifestyle even as a mother (woman´s fault). Hard to tell. But she still has no tattos and not the typical 1000 cock stare,
From a point od view, she IS too pretty. Too pretty to marry an above average man, but with her age and 4 kids baggage a "Christian Grey" type guy wouldn be interested. And yes, young Chads just want to have fun and older Chads are often tired and want a peaceful life and not deal with a bunch of step-teenagers
Yes. Interesting is the ending. When the army of women was defeated, the fully went into victimhood mode, begged for life and wanted to be spared as sisters, daughters and wives of the victorious men. But they remembered their cruelty and spared no one.
And this is the real end of the Enlightenment. People thought they will overcome Christianity with reason, science and tolerance (and prosperity). But all of this was undone with "feelings".
I am a devouted traditional catholic. I do not believe in witchcraft or wizardry. Words have no power over me. They can call me "bigot", "fanatic", but who cares?
This is really magic/esoterics. If you know the true names, you can rule them. Like in Harry Potter, never speak about Voldemort. In my mother language, we have a word for the bear - medved. Medved is literally med (honey) ved (know) - a creature that knows where the honey is. The original word for the bear was a taboo - people did not want to summon the bear to their camp. So it is lost now.
Women will always have problems. Look at all the domestic violence/abuse/rape/harassment issues. Men are shamed and disciplined for decades, there is much less violence than it was in the past, and now they whine for "real man".
There is a lot untold there. Why she got married sou young? Probably bad family backgroung, and she saw marriage as bailout. But it was not what she expected, only loooove, sex and parties, but bills and chores... Abuse!
It was different all the time. Sometimes women depended on fathers or husbands, but a lot of them had their own income/rent. And what about Japan? Women ran household, but manage all the money,if a Japanese man wanted to go out, he had to ask his wife. Was it true patriarchy?
You need beta qualities to create a family, to provide for the children a to protect them. And good men are kind and nice to people they love (family members, friends, and spouses)
I am not American, but even here in Central Europe, the guys in their 20s were much serious about dating than girls. There are not that many alpha Chads as puplic opinion proclamates. Girls, not boys, feel under pressure with the "love bomb".
And do not divorce him immediately when he cheats just to heal your ego. Most men do not like changes in their life and do not like leave common life and memories.
Sadly, a lot of them do. They will regret in the future, but now? They get their oneitis, the true love, who cares about the bastard children and emotional damage?
It was. I would just add the physiology of sex. It is not just pretty easy to get sex for a woman, it is also pretty easy to perform sex. She just has to spread legs. But a man must be really fit to perform. There are many ilnesses to sabotage errection, then stress, fatigue... And then premature ejaculation. And you need to recover after sex. You can pump several times a day, but woman with a little help of some lubricant will outperform you easily.
Atheism is a possibility for very very few clever and open-minded people. It is definitely not an ideology to create functional, surviving society. Like communism: it was cool to be a communist in a capitalist society, but when communists won, they had to close the borders to stop their countries from bleeding out.
Use the red pill rage wisely, mostly as a fuel in some physical activity (lifting, running, whatever). And monk mode for few months at least, to rebuild yourself, get some money, muscles, to reconsider everything... Enjoy your free time and your hobbies, clean your room... You are lucky to discover the manosphere so young.
And why should a handsome young millionaire marry someone who spends a lot of time at work with acces to top guys? She is a perfect mistress, but a wife, not so sure.
Yes. Look at the difference between the FDS sub and TRP sub. FDS: you are the prize, level up just because of higher standards, more entitlement... TRP: you are the prize, but you have to work for it - exercise the fat off, get some muscles, work on your career, improve your social life, quit drugs, quit alcohol...
Yep. She makes her a great mistress. But why would a hawt rich marry someone like her? Career woman that spends a lot of her time at work, with acces to that mystical top 10% guys...
She has right in many things. But she forgot to tell that women created this: Smash the patriarchy, eequality, sexual liberation, too much college education, me too... Men failed in that giant shit test of feminism not because of incompetence, but because of good will, , and now they ae trash. Only some divine intervention can save us.
Ask me how I know I think we all know this and we all have gone through. We all have that "One"/"True love"/She-elf" in our lives. And we he have to recover and rebuilt our lives. And we shall overcome.
Women live like there is no future. Or the future lasts foreverer. The good/nice guys want to provide, but this does not last forever. After few weeks of denial and mockery, they turn stone heart and cynical.
Because India is to far from Central Europe and people in my country are focused to the European Union and USA... I know a bit about Indian history (Har har Mahadev), but I believe in the potential of Indian people, if the West collapses, we in the East can run the civilization.
Career is something children will learn about. Elisabeth I., Catherin II. of Russia, Emperor Maria Theresia, Florence Nightingale. Try to overcome, strong independent girl.
Greetings from South Bohemia. In my country, people know only Mahatma Gandhi and Rudyard Kiplings "Jungle book". Clever people know Rabindranath Thakur and nerds the Bollywood. And of course that evil rape cases. Like India being a hardcore patriarchy.
What about seriously dating? People are dating about 5 years before getting married, so it is aproppriate to date the future husband from the age of 21. There are women like that, mostly happily married, still can build a carrer after 40. I know a couple that were dating at the college, married after graduation, started working, she got pregnant, had four kids. She was a happy healthy young mother , now the children are grown and she can still build her carreer for 25 years.
No, it is the evil patriarchy that programmed her to be provided for. Look how she talks abouth her father, the bad conservative man. She needs terapy - a feminsit reprogramming.
Ride the CC hard, get Alpha Widowed, develop 1000 cock stare, blame men, grow fat, enjoy your cats and wine. And teach young women how to be a strong independent woman.
No one is immune.There is a lot of dicussion about the "incels". But even attrective guas are unhappy. They can get sex easily, but a woman worth commitment is another issue. And even that, there will be always someone "chaddier".
The men who have great jobs, are stable, an available for a relationship...are already married/in a relationship at the age of 33. The world is a really funny place with red pill lens.
