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Ok, we’re good then!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:20 AM
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I don’t know what we’re arguing about. A lot of men out there who would make quality partners, but also a lot of women who enjoy the feeling of superiority of believing no man is good enough for her than actually being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:43 AM
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There are always challenges in life. But my goodness do people today like to whine about conditions that are much easier today than anytime in previous history, and if you are in the US or Western Europe than most other places in the world. So much energy spent wallowing in self pity instead of enjoying life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:40 AM
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When combining hours from both paid and domestic labor, men and women come out roughly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:35 AM
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Oh of course. Just being a quality person doesn’t go very far in terms of being attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:33 AM
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Well those are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:56 AM
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Because I see so many quality dudes out there, striving to become excellent human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:56 AM
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That is very Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:52 AM
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Tall men are considered more attractive. Successful wealthy men are considered more attractive. Confident assertive men are considered more attractive. Competent men with practical skills are considered attractive. Physically strong men with broad shoulders are considered more attractive. This is true for the vast majority of straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:50 AM
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And thus those few men are the only attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:48 AM
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Because fewer men are attractive to many women than women who are attractive to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:46 AM
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That’s just not how anyone else uses that term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:42 AM
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A man who is sexually attractive to many women. Just shorter than typing that out every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:40 AM
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It’s baked into our DNA to care for and raise our own biological children. To change it you will have to genetically engineer humans into a different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:39 AM
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Those kids will need lots of therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:37 AM
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It will destroy the well being of children even further than we already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:35 AM
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Yes because Chad isn’t going to go online and give himself a label. He’s just going to date a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:33 AM
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lol there are plenty of responsible men to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:31 AM
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Women get more of both from men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:30 AM
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Overall looks like a pretty sweet deal to be a woman today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:29 AM
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Where’s the data showing women have far more sexual partners on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:26 AM
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Sure but failing at your marriage is not some great flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:25 AM
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Much of the time spent on childcare and domestic work is just self induced busy work. Domestic tasks are easier than they’ve ever been. And if anything the amount of time spent on childcare is smothering the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:24 AM
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Modern life is not some ordeal of suffering for the vast majority of people, men or women. A big part of the problem with marriage and parenthood is people imagining it to be some great ordeal and then making it so as a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:22 AM
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Both men and women spend TOO MUCH time parenting now in many cases. It’s good to be involved and care for your children and nurture them. But now for many families there is too much helicopter parenting and parents wrapping up their self worth in perceived success of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:10 AM
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If that were true the fertility rate wouldn’t be plummeting towards zero. Women might believe they want children in some theoretical sense, but their revealed preferences show that to be a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:07 AM
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I think I can still see those goal posts somewhere over there…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:05 AM
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It’s much much more prominent and mainstream among women. It’s the default view among most media outlets, entertainment, and many academic departments. The mainstream is very anti marriage and are very forthright in stating that it’s because women are superior and can only be harmed by a committed relationship with a man. It’s hard to find comments from women in this sub NOT endorsing that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:15 PM
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Men have always been more expendable than women and human societies are structured to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:10 PM
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There is still a huge bias towards women in custody courts. And that you see the only value a father provides as financial is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:50 AM
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Surveys show that mental health and happiness for women was far higher in the past than today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:48 AM
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Because history is far far more brutal to men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:47 AM
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Those women only want tall dudes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:46 AM
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Yes. Society expects hard work and effort from men but nothing from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:45 AM
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Uh yes because they have no desire for a partner obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:44 AM
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So the men society has fucked over the most, suffering the most economically, socially, mental health, all deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:43 AM
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Very very few women put any effort into relationships with men today, and they are mostly part of some traditional religion. They place no value on their relationships with men, if there’s no large financial incentive involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:42 AM
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You are saying that men have an obligation to ge good people and good partners but women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:40 AM
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Needing other people is the norm in human history. We are inherently a social species. This extreme desire for isolation and individualism being driven by feminism is very strange aberration.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:38 AM
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And how did they get “all the women they want”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:36 AM
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Women are saying they hate men and don’t want to be with them in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:34 AM
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Today the absence of fathers in their children’s lives is due to the mothers deciding to exclude them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:33 AM
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In surveys women are almost as likely as men to say they are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:26 PM
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Yes, that is the reason “the red pill” ever became a thing. It’s mostly what had been common sense world view until so many boys grew up without a father in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:34 AM
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Women make sure it’s never that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:20 AM
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THIS is why women hate the Red Pill. Because it DOES work and tricks them into thinking it was part of your innate genetic makeup, instead of something that can be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:16 AM
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So Red Pill isn’t Red Pill if it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:13 AM
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No shit? Professors proving new theorems don’t need to take an algebra course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:13 AM
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Most of you have a revulsion at men needing to learn how to act in a way that women find attractive, as opposed to just doing it naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:08 AM
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And yet again Gen X is erased lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:03 AM
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The mine fields didn’t exist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:02 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:01 AM
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Horny is the default condition of all straight men. It doesn’t mean ONLY wanting sex to the exclusion of everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:44 AM
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You have NO IDEA if these men are bad husbands or married to horrible women or somewhere in between. You are just taking the opportunity to revel in others misfortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:43 AM
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I know. You are showing your contempt and hate for people whose marriage isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:52 AM
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You’re saying this because it’s the feminist approved answer. You have no idea if it applies to these cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:42 AM
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You are now endorsing transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:40 AM
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What a hateful mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:39 AM
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Most of all, NEVER get into a relationship with a woman who uses phrases like “duty sex”! That’s clearly a woman who doesn’t like sex and only sees it as something forced upon her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:37 AM
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Make only social spaces are what’s needed most.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:33 AM
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Almost as many women report being lonely as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:31 AM
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The male loneliness epidemic is only slightly greater than the female one, but the media presents it as only affecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:31 AM
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But the average man wasn’t obese, either. And many had some physical strength from a manual labor job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:27 AM
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He’s just saying not to let the attraction fundamentally change how you act and present yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:23 AM
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How many women have you established a sexual relationship with using this approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:22 AM
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It’s not remotely sufficient for most men to get into a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:21 AM
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You would have a long and productive life in the monastery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:21 AM
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When looking for a romantic partner, ALL are indispensable. If you are not attracted to her looks you are doing both of you a disservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:18 AM
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Easier said than done for a young horny guy. But an important lesson. ONLY being the operative word. You don’t need to pretend you are asexual or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:17 AM
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It’s one of those counter intuitive truths that are hard for young men to grasp. Being more selective can make it more likely for you to get reciprocated interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:15 AM
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Well sure cause then there would be no sex and the species will die out, ending human suffering once and for all!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:13 AM
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A lot of people are autistically debating the literal words while missing the basic point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:11 AM
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Sex and relationships don’t exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:10 AM
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And just shut down the species so AI can replace us all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:10 AM
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You just described acting exactly like the post recommends and sleeping with lots of attractive women…then claiming acting that way doesn’t work. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:09 AM
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You wouldn’t have any idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:05 AM
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Nihilism has never been more attractive than today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:01 AM
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Sadly arrogance also works for attracting women a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:58 AM
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None of that’s true. The loneliness epidemic for women is only slightly less pronounced than for men. But the media decided it doesn’t exist at all for women. Single progressive women have the highest rates of mental illness and medication. Does not sound like a group who is especially thriving to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:57 AM
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They will call you an incel too.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:39 AM
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Are we sure that’s from the show? Sounds like something someone would do with AI.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:38 AM
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I was reading that he deliberately avoids hiring straight white men as much as possible.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:34 AM
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Yeah, that term will not get more people on their side.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:15 AM
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It’s a hell of a lot better than convicting based on rumor that is the alternative right now.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:11 AM
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That’s 100% illegal.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 12:08 AM
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Celebrities getting in shape is not a men’s rights issue.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 11:57 PM
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Check out the “Everywhere Else” section of this article: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:47 PM
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That’s one company. I’m glad you followed the law. Many corporations did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:06 PM
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This is revisionist history. Even when in official statements saying not to use sex in hiring statements, many hiring managers, yes even in the largest corporations, were being pressured to favor anyone except white men. As for profit motive, they really thought that was where popular opinion was and they would make more profit by catering to DEI sloganeering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:37 PM
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You just linked to a quote saying the rate of population growth is rapidly declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:43 PM
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They don’t like Republicans but can be very conservative in their personal beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:41 PM
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They are failing by controlling the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:39 PM
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Appreciate the citations and specific numbers proving your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:39 PM
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Well yeah they’re saying that now because there’s an administration aggressively prosecuting companies explicitly saying they are discriminating in their hiring policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:38 PM
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They are very conservative. They just vote for Democrats because historically they have better supported black people over the past several decades. Says nothing about their religious or cultural beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:36 PM
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Sigh. You said you were finding real life men too attractive so you started looking at porn and masturbating again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:34 PM
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Those complex social behaviors were mostly encoded in religion and tradition. Now that we’ve largely dispensed with those, if anything the raw biological wiring is asserting itself with a vengeance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:31 AM
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Trump and MAGA are in a lot of ways a dark and scary men’s movement. Can’t say that hasn’t been successful in obtaining power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:27 AM
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Population decline is an indisputable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:26 AM
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Which is idiotic. Dating should not be a major economic investment. Lots of ways young men and women found to enjoy time together without spending a lot of money over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:25 AM
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This phenomenon is far far greater among women, who make grandiose social media posts about decentering men or putting themselves first or whatever. They could just do that without the pronouncement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:23 AM
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I don’t believe that, Black women, Latina women can be very religious and socially conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:58 AM
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You are now saying something completely different from your original claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:48 AM
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Humans are animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:40 AM
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That’s just wrong. Men deeply want the experience of a woman he’s attracted to also intensely desiring him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:36 AM
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It’s got to with the man’s characteristic of being successful and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:27 AM
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Women hate men far more than men hate women. There is a default bias for both men and women to favor women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:23 AM
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Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:20 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:19 AM
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There were probably a few steps in your interactions with this person before the sex started.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:18 AM
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You thought “it’s impossible for women to do something wrong. The man is at fault”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:16 AM
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This is the exact opposite of Holding Frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:12 AM
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So you’re saying men shouldn’t raise issues where they are unhappy because their female partners don’t really care? Just try to make her “enthusiastic” about him again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:11 AM
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Lol at the same time feminists treat “the orgasm gap” as a human rights issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:07 AM
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Women do that much more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:06 AM
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If you are professional athlete, famous musician, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:05 AM
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You are complaining about MEN in bed responding to a woman bragging about how terrible she is in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:04 AM
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Of course. Both those arguments are only made by extremists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:03 AM
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First world problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:01 AM
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I understand but this is profoundly sad on so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:58 AM
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How is that an improvement? Why is being attracted to men on a screen better than being attracted to men in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:58 AM
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Then don’t eye rape. Look politely and discreetly like a normal human.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:57 AM
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How the hell did we get to the point where finding people attractive is perverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:56 AM
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Or you could date real men instead of becoming dependent on porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:55 AM
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But the people making arguments like this post are likely to embody those stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:50 AM
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Conservative women are significantly happier and less likely to struggle with mental illness than liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:48 AM
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Why would those older men listen to the younger guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:41 AM
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Can you point to better surveys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:40 AM
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What’s the advantage to claim being single in an anonymous survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:40 AM
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So you don’t actually want a stay at home husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:33 AM
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We just went through a decade where corporations and universities and every other institution explicitly said they were going to favor women over men for hiring, raises and promotions. This was not a secret. They were all very proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:30 AM
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If you can’t give a guy space after he developed feelings for you and you rejected him, you never really gave a fuck about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:18 AM
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Red Pill shockingly doesn’t teach about quantum physics either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:14 AM
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You followed the advice and it worked, so you are not really disagreeing. If you’re dating zero women focusing on finding the perfect woman is obviously stupid. Until you’ve dated some number of women you don’t even know what perfect might be for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:14 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:26 AM
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Men work more hours and provide greater share of the household income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:58 AM
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You are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:54 AM
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Women can provide for themselves when single. But in a relationship still most often expect the man to take on that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:53 AM
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Seems like a very parasitic form of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:37 AM
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If men are offered sexlessness or the Red Pill, they will take the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:34 AM
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Science? Reputable polling? Studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:34 PM
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That’s my point. Most people today are “Reddit losers” on whatever platform than are making any serious effort at self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:59 AM
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Your words are weird. “Attraction for yourself.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:46 AM
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They are more or less, if you include all social media. Which almost everyone is on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:46 AM
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Men will go to incredible lengths for love and sex and marriage from women. Historically they would do far more than men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:45 AM
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You’re the one using all the weird terminology. If a man wants to go overseas in the hope of finding love, why do you assume all these horrible secret motives?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:41 AM
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You think men should just stop being attracted to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:35 AM
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lol sure you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:34 AM
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And most of those men don’t do much to deliberately improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:33 AM
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Your saying men should stick to masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:30 AM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:29 AM
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Ok, then show them how it’s done. Go out and advocate for men The Right Way and report back to us on the concrete progress you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:27 AM
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They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:25 AM
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Your arguments are just cynical and paranoid. You are claiming that actually making an effort to find love is suspect. That’s very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:24 AM
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Why do you think the men you know are a representative sample of men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:19 AM
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Surveys show a lot more single young men than single young women. It’s not just this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:15 AM
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This is a deliberately obtuse take. There will never be enough high libido women to match the number of high libido men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:13 AM
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You honestly believe that being good at dating takes no learning or struggle for the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:12 AM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:10 AM
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This seems like a very unscientific sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:09 AM
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At least we’ve established you’re just bullshitting and no longer pretending to know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:07 AM
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No it’s not. Tall men are more attractive than short men. Broad shouldered men with a strong frame are more attractive. Confident assertive men are more attractive. Successful, wealthy, competent men are more attractive. Funny men are more attractive. This is true across women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:05 AM
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So you have no knowledge…but are certain of your opinion nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:02 AM
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Women’s life experience gives them no perspective from which to give men useful advice about dating women. Lesbians might have some useful knowledge compared to straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:59 AM
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Women never had a harder time getting into a romantic relationship than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:54 AM
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There’s a whole subgenre of women’s literature about traveling to other countries and finding love, but nobody gives a damn about that because women can do whatever but when men do the same thing it’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:49 AM
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We’re not talking about that because polite society doesn’t criticize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:47 AM
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Women wanting men with money applies just as much to US and European women as women from anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:45 AM
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There is an entire subgenre of literature featuring women going to other countries to discover love. But when men do the same thing you lose your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:38 AM
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Calling men attempting to date “hunting” is what’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:35 AM
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Now trying to date is “hunting” women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:34 AM
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Your idea that dating someone of a different race or ethnicity is “exploiting” them is incredibly racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:32 AM
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Women committing domestic violence against men is seen as fodder for humor. There’s no real concern for men whose wives or girlfriends hit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:23 AM
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I already gave you the answer: no more sex, daring and marriage!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:05 PM
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In the strict sense of women could end the male loneliness by offering companionship. Women of course under no obligation to do so, of course, which is what makes it a pedantic point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:44 PM
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There are no social conventions left. When humans look up from their screens and see other flesh and blood humans they experience intense anxiety and return to the safety of the glowing rectangle as quickly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:56 PM
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I mean strictly speaking it would be women’s fault in a very literal sense. But women don’t care and won’t change so it’s an empty, pedantic point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:50 PM
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Because this a sub discussing sex. It’s a selection effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:48 PM
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There is a massive female loneliness epidemic. It’s just slightly smaller than the male loneliness epidemic so of course the media decided to declare it a problem with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:47 PM
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The solution to sex, dating and marriage is for everyone to give up sex, dating, and marriage!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:42 PM
1

Doesn’t mean it can be either. You have no evidence to support your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:27 PM
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If you’re trying to dissuade me from my thesis, I’m not very convinced yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:45 PM
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Ok, do you also date men? Would you say the women were better at courting or seducing you? Were you the one doing more the courting or seducing in your relationships? How women respond to another woman vs a man in a romantic context is a confounding factor. But I’m curious nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:28 PM
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How many women have you dated to assess their social skills in that context?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:51 PM
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Just brainstorming ways to create romantic relationships if men stop courting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:31 PM
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I’m not the one saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:27 PM
1

Well, we could go back to arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:26 PM
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Tall. Broad shoulders. Confident and assertive. Funny. Professionally and financially successful. Competence and mastery in skills and hobbies. Other men like and look up to him and other women are attracted to him. Natural leader. These are traits almost every woman will see as a positive. Men with a lot of these traits will be attractive to many women. Men with few or none of these traits will be attractive to very few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:22 PM
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Well the rules are just different for an Adonis like yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:17 PM
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Well then I’m just going to assume you are devastatingly beautiful and therefore cannot relate to the dating travails of mere mortal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:15 PM
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Are you going to send photos or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:36 PM
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I agree in the sense that women are attracted to men who are not a doormat and are not overly concerned with disagreeing with her. However, he still needs to maintain a level of stoicism and confidence, and not reveal any real insecurities or weakness if he wants to remain attractive to her. “Not all women” etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:30 PM
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You can’t fully smash them because the basis for a lot of them are biologically wired into us. You can’t legislate for women to get horny for a guy who’s too timid to ask women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:25 PM
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Your first sentence seems to disagree, but the rest of your argument supports what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:23 PM
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And the second, third date, making conversation, creating the right “vibe”, finding the right moment to initiate or escalate physical touch… Then later in the relationship most women still have an expectation of stoicism from a man, and are repulsed at the idea of giving encouragement and comfort to a romantic partner lacking confidence, discouraged or scared. All the while expecting support for her emotions. Sure “not all women”. But these are still the gender roles prevailing in our society an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:21 PM
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Ah, there’s the disconnect. Very very few men have much success in dating apps. You sir are an extreme outlier. More power to you. But you’re not going to understand the lived experience of most other straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:16 PM
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Do you find it’s just as likely for women to ask you out, plan dates, pay for dates, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:59 AM
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We are all just clumps of cells of various sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:55 AM
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So you must violate the rights of conservative women in order to support feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:53 AM
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That’s because feminism is disengaged from reality. There are a lot of physiological and psychological differences in the distributions between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:48 AM
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You used a lot of words without saying what concrete rights women still lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:44 AM
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This is definitely not true. The traits that make men attractive are more common between women than different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:36 AM
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If women are incapable of handling stress that would disqualify them from holding high stress positions, like leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:32 AM
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You just defined emotional labor as “only when the woman is doing it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:28 AM
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This is EXACTLY the things women have been complaining about as unpaid emotional labor when they do them!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:27 AM
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You are not disagreeing with the premise, just that you think it’s a fine state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:25 AM
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Certainly something women are incapable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:23 AM
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Because there is relentless propaganda claiming that only women perform emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:19 AM
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Social expectations are 100% for men to drive every aspect of courtship. Are you seeing women asking men out? Paying for dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:18 AM
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Why would a woman need to put effort into a dating relationship? Social expectations are for men to initiate, plan dates, pay for dates, escalate physically at just the right time, etc. Thrre are no social expectations for women when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:14 AM
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Women don’t need to understand men or think about how to emotionally support or appeal to men because men will make that effort. Women only need to choose between the men doing the emotional labor of courtship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:12 AM
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The vast majority of what women call performing emotional labor for men is stuff the men didn’t want them to do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:02 AM
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Women are less horny than men. If men stop pursuing women romantically, there just won’t be any more romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:59 AM
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If you consider a world where people have replaced human interaction with staring at screens a success, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:58 AM
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Yes, that’s exactly what a rapidly growing number of young men are doing. Both men and women believe any experience short of bliss with an other person means they are better off cutting off the relationship and spending more quality time with a screen instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:57 AM
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Men are the breadwinners in 55% of marriages, 16% of breadwinners are women, and 29% are roughly egalitarian: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ So what you just said is a complete lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:22 AM
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That is a rando typing stuff on the Internet. In reality, if he wants a relationship at some point he will conform to what the woman he is into wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:30 PM
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Just replace "every" with "vast majority" and those statements become true. Very, very few men receive the sexual attention and interest of the average woman (and probably a lot of below average women).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:09 PM
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You're 32. Still totally appropriate to date women in their mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:05 PM
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If those women wanted love, commitment and comfort they wouldn't divorce the men offering that. It's said incessantly on this sub by women that they hate being with a man who is "comfortable" in their relationship and will want to leave that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:04 PM
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It’s fucked up because of your obsession with proving that marriage is so evil, that it’s better for a woman to die young than to get married. Literally a fate worse than death. Presented with no evidence. The level of misandry is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:59 PM
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That is a really fucked up argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:45 AM
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And those two groups make up close to 100% of people posting on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:22 AM
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This is a really fucked up way of looking at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:20 AM
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If that was true women wouldn’t divorce at such a high rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:18 AM
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Hey, if you want a sexless relationship I won’t judge! To each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:55 PM
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When adding hours of paid work and hours spent on household chores, the total number of hours for men and women is roughly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:49 AM
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No, these choices are driven by women. Very very few men are going to say no to his wife wanting to do less paid work and spend more time at home raising the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:35 AM
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The whole “go to school, study hard for a high earning degree.” Then graduating into an economy where businesses are like “actually, we think we can just replace all our entry level employees with AI.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:56 PM
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And a lot of men contribute equally at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:22 AM
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What a load of bullshit. Women are looking for what will benefit themselves and vote accordingly. You are perfectly fine with policies that benefit women at the expense of men, as you admit that companies discriminate against men and you don't think it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:21 AM
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The goto term women use for any socially maladjusted man is "incel". So yes this is the narrative women believe as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:54 AM
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Women also seek out relationships with high status men for validation at least as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:53 AM
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It means "I want to change the topic as quickly as possible".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:50 AM
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> replaces the 'nice person' bit with becoming the worst and darkest version of yourself Where are you quoting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:47 AM
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Unlikable men are still often very successful and respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:38 AM
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> Humans evolved to work together. Through religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:37 AM
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That came out of religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:36 AM
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> Women are begging for 50/50 in childcare, housework and it being done well. ...while expecting the man to work longer hours and make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:33 AM
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> Amazingly women don’t seem to have the inherent desire to control and dominate men lol > That doesn’t mean that women want to be sole providers. It means that we want each person to be an equitable contributor to the relationship. Most women still look for a man making significantly more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:32 AM
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That wouldn't be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:30 AM
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There is still a significant number of households where a man provides all the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:29 AM
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Women see 50/50 as the FLOOR for the man's contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:26 AM
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Women need this more than men, in order to feel attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:21 AM
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Great! Now that man can cook and clean for a woman that doesn't want to have sex with him!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:20 AM
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This confirms the Red Pill belief that it's better for a man to avoid commitment if he wants women to have enthusiastic sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:19 AM
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So then women only really enjoy sex outside of marriage, where the man is not associated with whatever's happening domestically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:15 AM
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That would be great if women worked as many hours as men and made as much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:11 AM
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Men work more hours and are much more likely to be the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:10 AM
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Well that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:07 AM
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Women still heavily favor men who make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:06 AM
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Most people will side with the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:06 AM
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> And realistically, jobs/education are supposed to provide fulfillment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:04 AM
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Not to the same extent as men. Women are less likely to pick a major based on how much they can make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:04 AM
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Men are still the provider in a majority of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:03 AM
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It's also true that progressives and feminists were putting a lot of pressure on companies to favor women in hiring and promotions. A lot of hiring managers have admitted to excluding men (or at least white men) from consideration for jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:02 AM
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Young people despise the capitalist system...yet somehow still expect to find their sense of purpose and meaning working a job with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:54 AM
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> It’s actually been really accurate in diagnosing my first ex and a friends personality disorders and identifying my last ex’s 0/10 emotional attunement It's very scary you are just accepting this coming from an LLM. You know those things are tuned to be sycophantic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:46 AM
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Men give more emotional support to women than women give to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:44 AM
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It's easy just watch how they treat people they aren't trying to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:42 AM
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> Bad or ‘meh’ ones tho? I’d argue that being single is better Almost tautological, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:40 AM
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Happy people don't spend time raging with hate on the internet to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:39 AM
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OK, you are a really hateful person grasping for any half remembered incorrect statistic to lash out at men. Not worth having a conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:38 AM
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> According to the American Time Use Survey, despite having their own full-time jobs bringing in half the household income, women still do double the household chores and childcare than their husbands. This is 100% bullshit. Men are still the breadwinner in the majority of relationships, and work more hours outside the home than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:36 AM
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It’s always good to be reminded that modern progressivism is motivated by a hatred for humanity and desire to see our demise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:21 AM
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So you’re asexual and agreed that you should not be in a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:17 AM
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Men participate far more in parenting and household responsibilities than in the past while still being breadwinners far more often than women and working many more hours than women outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:16 AM
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You can’t talk women into being attracted to you who aren’t attracted to you. But you can do things to make yourself more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:56 AM
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Women do not make great efforts in most romantic fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:50 AM
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None of those things you list are things she does for him. They are either mutual things or things she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:47 AM
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A woman’s need is for a man to do things for her and a man’s need is to do things for a woman, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:43 AM
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No it’s what people said it meant all along once other people pointed out the literal meaning is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:13 AM
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It just means you are starting to become less attractive relative to women younger than you, other things being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:36 PM
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None of that is directed towards changing their behavior, especially not how they interact with men. Women are being taught it’s always just easier to find a new man than working on the relationship with the man she has. And maybe that’s true. Men just need to internalize how disposable we are when it comes to relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:20 PM
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He’s saying the woman believes she is being oppressed in that example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:17 PM
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It’s true that psychology-speak can lead a woman to take a common interpersonal issue that can be resolved with interpersonal communication, and inflate it into a psychological disorder serious enough to dissolve the relationship altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:15 PM
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It’s more common with women because they are more interested on average in psychology, therapy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:13 PM
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Definitely men misuse psychiatric terms as well, but I would bet that women abuse the word “abuse” much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:09 PM
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That's still measuring something different than what the person subjectively feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:11 PM
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Black women do a lot better than black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:03 PM
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Women favor liberalism because it believes in discriminating against men in favor of women as women are defined as oppressed and men as oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:01 PM
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Self reporting is the only visibility there is to someone's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:57 PM
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What a sad existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:53 PM
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Or maybe those men just don't want to be discriminated against in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:52 PM
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The vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans consider themselves moderate. Very few people like to consider themselves an "extremist".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:51 PM
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Women become more conservative as they marry and have children, as they realize policies that fuck over men can negatively impact them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:50 PM
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That list is bullshit. Just because someone types and bunch of stuff out doesn’t make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:17 PM
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It generally occurs in the context of a man saying OUT LOUD he finds a woman attractive, or women with specific characteristics attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:04 PM
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Kids desire this from their parents more than the parents think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:55 PM
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This is woefully out of date. Young people across the board are not learning social cues because they are existing around screens, not other humans. This has a much higher impact on men's dating success than women, as women can be terrible at social cues and still have zero trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:54 PM
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If feminism in practice stopped at "equality under the law" this wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:47 PM
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For the USA, abortion is the only issue you cite that's not in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:41 PM
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"Heroin is a tool like anything else. People need to be accountable for how they choose to use it."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:16 PM
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Continuing to try to pursue an intimate emotional connection to someone who is strongly attracted to you but you are not attracted to them is stupid for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:13 PM
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Nobody feels bad for lonely males.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:09 PM
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I noticed you didn't mention your brother managing to sleep with any girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:07 PM
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Hey, just want to let you know that you replied to the wrong comment. Hope you can find the other thread where you meant to post this where it’s actually relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:24 PM
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Yeah, that’s sick and borderline sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:21 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:17 AM
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And women avoid rejection relative to men in other areas as well. It’s well documented women are less likely to ask for a raise or a promotion or a job they have some, but not all of the qualifications for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:16 AM
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Changing the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:13 AM
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Salute you for being one of the very few women who understand somewhat what dating is like for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:12 AM
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Lol almost every man alive equally experiences that passive rejection, in addition to the active rejection of trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:11 AM
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No, women are much more likely to do the rejecting in both scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:08 AM
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Yes. You are humans who don’t need to understand how your own attraction works. You just need to know you have “chemistry” with or get “the ick” from a man. You don’t have to analyze why you feel that way, because another man will be along shortly if you want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:07 AM
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Because no one is going to publish an article by some loser man complaining about how bad things are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:03 AM
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Men only need to go back to the way men acted fifty years ago. Social clubs. Sports teams. Interest based organizations. Church groups. This used to be the norm for men and they were much less lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:02 AM
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Which is still a very patriarchal fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:48 AM
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Because when it’s for women it’s Romance or Erotica, not Porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:46 AM
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I mean there is, it just isn’t pretty. It’s what we have in the White House right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:42 AM
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The exact same body language and tone from different women can mean completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:25 AM
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Only at the margins.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:23 AM
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Women don’t care much what men think, other women have a much greater influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:22 AM
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Women don’t really have any reason to understand how their own attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:21 AM
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For initial attraction, it’s going to be safer to be more stoic, more assertive. And it’s never going to be bad to make her laugh. Yes in a longer term relationship those traits will need to be moderated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:19 AM
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“Chemistry” comes down to personality traits that men can learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:15 AM
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Red pill is entirely about introspection. At least it was. It was about things men must change to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:13 AM
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Power, status, confidence, assertiveness, charisma has a much larger impact on women’s attraction to men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:12 AM
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They want confidence, assertiveness, and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:11 AM
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No even across cultures women are mostly attracted to the same characteristics in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:10 AM
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Both the metalhead and rap listener want a tall broad shouldered man with confidence, charisma, assertiveness, and a steady income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:08 AM
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That’s why men are at the top and bottom and women are more in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:40 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:37 AM
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They’re adding people with mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:17 PM
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That isn’t true. Feminism is used selectively by most women for what they feel benefits them the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:44 PM
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UK government didn’t get the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:41 PM
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En masse opt in euthanasia is already happening in Canada and very few people care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:40 PM
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This is word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:23 PM
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It's a lie and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:53 PM
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> No, it's not. Very few things are more strongly culturally enforced than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:56 PM
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So now you've transitioned to fewer people in relationships is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:54 PM
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That’s not the trend. More singles. Fewer and later marriages. Still high rate of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:49 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Even treading carefully at some point introducing sexuality is the man’s responsibility. Also, treading too carefully is also unattractive to women. At some point if you don’t make your interest clear she will go with some other man who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:48 PM
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Not really. They only look for off ramps and reasons to leave a relationship. Never reasons to stay or any of the positives a man offers. It’s baked into the nature of feminism. That every interaction between men and women is zero sum and adversarial. It’s impossible to grow a relationship that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:44 PM
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They are defined very differently by different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:19 AM
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“Bodies are not inherently sexual” is a dumb take. Sex is an integral part of having a human body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:19 AM
1

Fewer and fewer ending up in stable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:16 AM
1

The only source of advice for this “feeling out” process is the Red Pill for most young men which is a big part of its success. Everyone else is very squeamish about discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:13 AM
1

Because men are socially expected to make the leap into bringing sexuality into an interaction. Men can back off if it’s not accepted or reciprocated. But even awkwardly asking “May I sexualize you?” already sexualizes the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:09 AM
1

You would be helpless at all those skills if you suddenly became a man trying to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:04 AM
1

Socially acceptable ways of implying sexualization without outright saying it. Otherwise known as “flirting“.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:59 AM
3

Left wing women adored Bill Clinton and he was a complete asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:55 AM
1

Natural selection encompasses sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:44 AM
3

It’s evil and reprehensible. And completely natural. Just look at human history. Humans are animals that by default do animalistic things. It’s only things like culture and religion that have allowed us to climb out of that state.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:43 AM
4

Why are you concerned about those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:07 AM
2

That has no connection to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:18 PM
6

Absolutely. That’s the black pill red pill dividing line.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:15 PM
4

Do you date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:17 PM
0

Your casual denigration of autistic people doesn’t provide much evidence that you are capable of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:14 PM
5

You know damn well “confident and kind” isn’t sufficient advice for generating attraction. There’s a lot more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:12 PM
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“Reassuring” them is the exact opposite of what they need. They need to change what they are doing. Reassuring them that it will just work out without major changes is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:08 PM
0

The men who do all those things get left too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:05 PM
2

That is the least dominant post I have ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:00 PM
1

> Humans are generally pair bonding creatures most of us prefer long term partnerships anyway. Progressive women are screaming from the rooftops that is the last thing they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:59 PM
1

Women in this thread are saying they know it's bad advice but say it to seem nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:55 PM
1

Using logic instead of empathy can often be way less selfish than the opposite. You just mean the APPEARANCE of being selfish. Non-spectrum people are often just better at pretending to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:53 PM
2

Yet another example of how women are really bad at giving advice to men about how to be more attractive to women. Nothing you said is actionable. Just demeaning the character of the person asking for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:51 PM
7

There's a ton of generic advice that applies to almost any man. Be more confident. Be more assertive. Lift. Groom well and wear well fitting clothes. Reading body language. Etc. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:49 PM
3

lol you are just giving more evidence that women give men terrible advice on attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:48 PM
7

It's tautological.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:47 PM
2

The only actionable advice then is "What can I do to become more attractive?" Which is the point. That women's advice on being attractive to women rarely addresses how to become more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:47 PM
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You know, it's not quite hating women, although I'm sure it feels like that and maybe doesn't make a difference from your perspective. It's the internal desperation for women's approval that generates an instinctive fear in men when an interaction with a woman feels like rejection. And often leads to lashing out. Not that that's your problem. It's something men need to learn to overcome with out higher reasoning faculties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:43 PM
0

Bullshit. Plenty of online communities where people who don't know you will give you brutally honest actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:39 PM
1

The don't complain that women aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:38 PM
1

How did we get to this point? Throughout most of the previous century, it was a given for a man to be well dressed and well groomed and smell nice. And that it was an important part of being attractive to the ladies. Not sure what changed this understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:38 PM
1

Pretty sure Red Pill agrees with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:34 PM
3

Seems like you are in vehement agreement with the author of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:33 PM
10

That's why Red Pill gives actionable advice that's relevant to being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:32 PM
2

Women tend to like the same men with small variations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:27 PM
2

Until they're still single and they hear the baby clock ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:25 PM
2

What's the obsession with "first option"? If we're honest, almost everyone's first option will be someone who has better options. Anyone who's first option picks someone else is better off forever single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:24 PM
1

Sounds like women instinctually want to be in a great man's harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:18 PM
3

> Men are out there bellowing at women to make them sandwiches This probably rarely happened in the 1950s, and it certainly doesn't happen now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:15 PM
2

lol no. "dominate" goes to far but being a doormat is far far less attractive for a man than being too confident or assertive.i
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:12 PM
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We are reverting back to wild animal behavior, just with cell phones and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:10 PM
1

Which is why we created culture and things like encouraging monogamy. Innate behavior unchecked leads to everyone less happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:09 PM
1

And when you make negative generalizations about men that’s…?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:28 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:21 PM
3

But how do you know? Have you measured it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:20 PM
3

Because they hate being married and quickly get bored of it, which men need to be made aware of before they consider getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:20 PM
2

We have gone WAAAYYY past that into some serious dysfunction in modern societies. Not starving, but obese. Not uncomfortable, but often depressed in part due to lack of movement and exercise. Not killing each other (as much), but siloing off into deeper and deeper loneliness. Ironically we are starting to get more ill, too, due to the obesity and lack of exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:05 PM
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So clearly that means you require your man to be traditional while you can do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:55 PM
3

How do you know your relationship isn't 51-49? Do you have a double entry accounting system and accurate pricing of emotional labor for every task down to the penny?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:54 PM
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Yes, and we now know that women LOVE divorce! Just look at how often they choose it compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:50 PM
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Lol, like men never deal with managing their wife's emotions. You're funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:49 PM
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Or the parents can decide to love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:03 AM
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And they disproportionately suffer from loneliness and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:10 PM
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Anecdotes for the win! I know two old single people. Therefore human connection doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:03 PM
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If you don’t like the people around you, you are picking the wrong people to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:58 PM
4

Great tautology!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:41 PM
1

That is preferable yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:39 PM
1

Well it’s not clear if not spelled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:38 PM
2

The societal pressure to be a fake you, especially for young people, can be immense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:26 PM
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I have no idea what this means. You are a leader if other people follow you. Women are more attracted to the men who a lot of people follow. That's very simple. I can't parse your sentences well enough to figure out which part of that you're claiming to disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:18 PM
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No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:15 PM
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> basic human biology and attraction isn’t that complicated. This could be the Red Pill Manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:13 PM
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And this is how women help reinforce gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:13 PM
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> and slowly building intimacy by revealing the undercooked bits over time. And then she files for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:10 PM
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Depends if you're happy with the results that self is getting. Otherwise you should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:09 PM
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People are not immutable. Someone who's not suitable for relationships can become one by changing behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:08 PM
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Adapting is the opposite of "being yourself". It means to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:07 PM
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What this leaves out is a lot of people will be happier and more satisfied in life if they change who they are. Like if they're someone who's not confident, doesn't say what they think, isn't disciplined, is in their own head too much, doesn't exercise or care for their appearance, is lazy, becoming a different person who isn't those things can be beneficial. And a lot of those things coincidentally help with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:07 PM
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Everyone's preferences and actions are influenced by society to some degree. We shouldn't let society do that to us as individuals. But there can be a lot of consequences to deviating from the standard social script.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:03 PM
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How so? Women "enforce" leadership in men by showing more attraction to those men. "Enforce" through social conditioning of course. Not through violence or laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:00 PM
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Very very few women will be attracted to men who idolize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:55 PM
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Therapists and schools are not replacements for parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:03 AM
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It's generally covered under some kind of euphemism. Like in this study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4012696/ it's covered under "lack of commitment", which is the most common reason cited. Looking at the example quotes, it's clearly a case of "I'm just not feeling it any more." I.e. boredom with the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:05 PM
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Was going to paste a link to a loving paean to divorce in this very discussion, but she deleted it. In general, it's very common to see people advocating for divorce if there's any problem in a marriage. People pushing for working through and issue to stay married is very rare. For abortion, Clinton used the phrase "safe, legal and rare" to describe his approach to abortion. The "rare" part is never mentioned any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:43 PM
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Progressives LOVE divorce and abortion. They never gave a negative thing to say about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:57 PM
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You have no idea what kind of emotional trauma those kids might be dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:55 PM
2

And childcare can be remedied by giving custody to the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:52 PM
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Yes it can extend to a woman getting bored and looking for something more exciting than being stuck with just one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:49 PM
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Why would women ever admit to that? Also, it’s an incredibly popular genre of romance novels and movies. The woman who divorces and “finds herself” and lives happily ever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:47 PM
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Relationship is dead just means she’s bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:45 PM
1

This is the most common reason for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:45 PM
0

Not as emotionally resilient is definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:44 PM
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So a woman seeing her husband as human is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:41 PM
3

You got the financial assets you wanted out of the relationship so now you don’t see any more use for him to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:37 PM
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Every man needs to read this to understand a very common woman’s mentality before getting married. Utter contempt for a man who never did anything to wrong her, just bored sleeping with the same man and wants her life to be a romance novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:34 PM
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Conditions that magically became prevalent the moment traditional marriage stopped being the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:26 PM
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Why would I be shocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:19 PM
0

8% is A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:09 PM
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What sane person wants to live in Saudi Arabia?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:08 PM
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lol, now men wanting to date attractive women is prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:08 PM
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Passport bros understand relationships with women are transactional and have just decided to go somewhere that women are upfront about it. Western women look for financial support from men just as much, but they’re not honest about it. In a lot of other cultures the expectation for a man to provide is up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:06 PM
-1

Discount prices concedes that you believe romantic relationships are just financial transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:03 PM
-4

Men have stopped believing that romantic relationships are possible with most women, who would rather be functional prostitutes by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:02 PM
-3

What the hell does this mean? Beauty isn’t being consumed, it’s still there regardless of whether a man is enjoying it or not, Men are equally giving up those same years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:00 PM
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Oh yeah finding a woman making $400k to date is the easiest thing in the world. But good for you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:57 PM
1

“Just be hot bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:47 AM
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No they won’t, lol. Women very very rarely pursue, even if they’re very interested. And in the animal kingdom makes court like crazy! You should win an award for comment most divorced from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:46 AM
1

No True Feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:09 AM
0

So you’re calling on men to improve their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:01 AM
1

Red pill is just what was considered common sense in your Grandma’s age. Nothing more and nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:44 AM
1

Red pill has no interest in any narrative behind actions. Just the actions themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:40 AM
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It’s hilarious that Red Pill has so thoroughly run the debate that its key tenets are accepted as “common sense“ by its opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:39 AM
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Red pill trusts actions over self reported feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:37 AM
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They rediscovered them. Because somehow it became rude to mention these facts in polite conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:33 AM
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Not ALL women are like the stereotype. Just most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:32 AM
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They don’t have to. Men come to them and they choose from among the ones showing interest. She doesn’t have to self reflect on what she might need to do differently to appeal to or approach or flirt with men. Figuring out how to improve isn’t part of her dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:29 AM
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Women’s preferences are more similar than they’re different. Why are women obsessed with proving what they find attractive is unique and different from all the other women, when looking around at the world we can see most women desire men with similar traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:24 AM
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So drop the ALL CAPS and exclamation points and you’re fine with Red Pill teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:22 AM
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Most women don’t care about the grind at all and really don’t want to hear about it. They just want the end product the Grind produces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:20 AM
1

Immune system has nothing to do with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:10 AM
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This is bullshit. It’s not like male personality traits and being sexually desirable to women are uncorrelated. Most women have similar preferences for the personality traits they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:08 AM
1

Blue Pill is Red Pill with a thesaurus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:02 AM
1

Men will win every one of those metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:31 PM
2

So men are only horny because women have all devoted themselves to learning how to sexually pleasure men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:30 PM
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Who did you mean to reply to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:15 PM
2

What’s the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:12 PM
3

And almost everyone wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:12 PM
3

A life full of scorn and manipulation is a life lacking robust fulfilling relationships, pretty much by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:09 PM
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Hypergamy specifically means attraction increasing with increased status and resources. Defining it to include any trait makes the term pretty much useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:04 PM
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Can we please stop redefining perfectly good words?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:51 PM
1

Men who are leaders in real life also get a disproportionate amount of interest from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:48 PM
1

A few decades ago most people got that much exercise from their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:41 PM
1

Is that your judgment about yourself or feedback from men your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:38 PM
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And at some point men half the age of your husband will be more physically attractive than him too. Physical beauty fades over time for everyone. But a good relationship is based on more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:36 PM
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Marriage rate declining. Age of first marriage steadily increasing. Divorce rate still very high. Fertility rate plummeting. If you look at progressive and feminist goals and policy prescriptions, the underlying motivating principle is to make the number of people living in married heterosexual relationships raising their own children as low as possible. Anything except that is praised and promoted and encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:07 PM
2

Anonymous surveys have shown a lot of women admitting to going on foodie call dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:02 AM
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It’s the only choice on offer in modern secular society. The only people taking marriage and raising children seriously are the conservative religious folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:01 AM
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Anyone is perfectly free to be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:57 AM
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The idea that men never experienced societal pressures or repercussions is epically stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:56 AM
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I actually agree that coffee is a good compromise position. If a woman is signaling that she wants to go to a high end restaurant for a first date, there’s a much higher chance it’s just a foodie call.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:53 AM
-1

Women having different priorities at those ages is the very definition of AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:49 AM
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It’s very simple. The Red Pill expression is “enjoy the decline.” This simply means that even if you would love to be the provider in a stable long term relationship raising children together with your wife, feminism has made that incredibly unrealistic. So accept reality and enjoy the decline by having a lot of sex while never getting too emotionally attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:47 AM
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So they are fools because they don’t want to spend money on women who aren’t actually attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:42 AM
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It’s self evident the reason those men won’t pay for coffee even if they can easily afford it, is to avoid self absorbed women like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:40 AM
-4

The amount of personal spending men do is not in the same ballpark as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:29 AM
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Men are culturally expected to emotionally support women. The opposite is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:26 AM
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Of course most women don’t do that reciprocally for men. Demonstrating emotional needs as a man kills attraction and will lead to the woman ending the relationship in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:25 AM
1

This is the essence of Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:01 AM
2

Women still find dominant men attractive. They just learn they’re not good for longer term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:59 AM
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Tautological, Dominant men are the men that are followed, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:54 AM
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Nah, historically look how much effort men put into wearing nice suits and hats and shoes and being well groomed. Lack of care for appearance is a recent phenomenon for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:42 AM
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They like them because bad boys are almost always irrationally confident, and they are attracted to confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:40 AM
1

Red Pill is just how everyone thought about sex and dating a few decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:39 AM
1

Is today Opposite Day?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:27 AM
1

Well, yes, it does. That’s exactly what it means. Do you think only men who don’t want to have sex with you are attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:26 AM
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The topic is women who put in less consideration, kindness or reciprocity into a relationship than the men they are dating. Not women who reject men outright. Why do you think this is so common?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:18 PM
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The general wage gap does not explain the difference in income between married men and women. https://ifstudies.org/blog/women-still-marry-up-but-the-income-gap-is-narrowing?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:20 PM
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It’s still 2 out of 3 men in relationships who make more than their partner. Even though overall unmarried men and women earn roughly the same. It’s not every relationship. But the effect is very strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:04 PM
1

You are a sample size of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:00 PM
1

Does having high standards mean not showing consideration, kindness or reciprocity to men you are dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:56 AM
1

Women still strongly select for men who earn more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:51 AM
1

Women rarely offer any emotional support to men and reasonably expect even contributions to domestic labor. Offering “sexual access” in return for other considerations is just prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:45 AM
3

They just go Red Pill when they arrive at that realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:40 AM
2

Women don’t look for love with men. They wait for it to come to them then pick from what’s on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:39 AM
0

You are making the case for Red Pill very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:36 AM
0

Love is action. Feelings that don’t translate into action are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:35 AM
1

Dating is a kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:33 AM
1

They are on dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:25 AM
1

It’s about the basic human decency of putting the same effort into a relationship that you’re receiving. Men are socialized to believe they have to put in a lot and expect very little. Women the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:24 AM
3

How in the world would you know a man is actually amazing before going on a single date with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:52 AM
1

Unless the number is income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:50 AM
1

Women already don’t care about nuclear family or gender rules or having children. Just look at marriage rates, fertility rates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:35 AM
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…and here’s an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:17 PM
2

They act on political directives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:09 PM
1

It is incredibly common to jump to accusations about deficiencies in character or morals as explanations when a man says he is having trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:44 PM
1

Over index on enthusiasm. Humility will come soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:54 PM
2

No no no. Absolutely let them do more than they should. Let them try things and fail or maybe surprise you and succeed. LESS responsibility and agency is absolutely not what young people need. Especially young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:53 PM
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The Red Pill is mostly about throwing out the old scripts, like getting married, having kids, raising a family together until parted by death. Red Pill is about adapting to the new reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:50 PM
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Have you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:24 PM
1

Wanting something and feeling entitled to it are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:18 PM
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Men who can’t get sex with women probably aren’t getting intimacy from them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:16 PM
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It’s fascinating that there’s another thread with many people claiming being unable to get a romantic partner is not a moral failing, and here’s an immediate response assuming all kinds of moral failings in response to someone who can’t find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:57 PM
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Just dance badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:50 PM
2

Those men want to be wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:44 PM
1

I don’t think washing the dishes is going to solve most dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:43 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:40 PM
1

Disabled women will still be desired by a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:40 PM
3

What about men who are none of those things and still not having any luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:39 PM
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THANK YOU! Every thread here discussing whether there are any advantages for a woman to be attractive is filled with women swearing that the uglier they are the happier they get. Never an admission that being found attractive can sometimes be a nice experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:30 PM
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Women will tend to think those men are dangerous and a potential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:17 PM
1

But society does tend to think sexually undesirable men are bad, even if it’s not logically entailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:16 PM
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Men and non-men may say that. But I think statistically sexless men are less likely to be violent and violent men have plenty of consensual sex. But I’m too lazy to look up where I read that right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:14 PM
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See? Unattractive men are assumed to be immoral and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:11 PM
1

Look at the discussions around incels if you don’t think there’s a negative moral association around romantically undesirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:10 PM
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The brutal truth is those things are what establish attraction, and morality is largely orthogonal. Wise women will factor in morality in choosing a partner, but that’s different than sheer attraction. Equally true of men of course. A total mess of a woman can still be very attractive, and men need the wisdom and maturity to factor in values and personality to avoid getting into a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:07 PM
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Have you looked around at the culture you are living in? The only thing most young men are being taught is “don’t rape, don’t harass.” Nothing about how to be a good man, good partner, good husband, good father, good citizen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:03 PM
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You are probably in an environment where the only men you interact with are those already in relationships. Also, men are very unlikely to spontaneously share with you difficulties they’ve had in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:00 PM
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Not long ago the vast majority of men and women were relationship material. That being in a relationship is considered something reserved for the elite few today reflects just how weird our culture has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:57 PM
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Then why do the conversations around incels always assume they must have terrible personalities if no woman wants them, instead of that they must be ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:28 PM
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Equating “lonely men” with “incels” gives you a Get Out of Empathy Free card, freeing you from grappling with the pain of a lot of your fellow humans. It’s a rhetorical attempt to explain the suffering of all lonely men as just desserts for their moral failings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:01 AM
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Then what’s the term for actually lonely men, if “lonely men” just means incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:53 PM
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I suppose you’re right. The professional athletes, CEOs, famous actors and musicians, are all frustrated incels I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:51 PM
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I’m defending you from all the anti attractive people bigots out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:46 PM
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FFS the whole post is about how WOMEN like yourself are claiming lonely men are all dangerous mysoginists only interested in sex. The relevance to this sub is these women's attacks on men claiming men are never actually lonely, just horny. Such a disparaging attack demands some evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:29 PM
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I don't know. What are the numbers for each group and what's your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:17 PM
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This has to be the dumbest, cruelest subreddit on Reddit, and that's saying something. Seriously? Legitimately lonely men don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:09 PM
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> First, “lonely men” is often code word for incel. "I'm not going to engage with what you said, I'm going to engage with something you never said but II think you secretly believe."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:07 PM
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> "but why don't all the men we've socially excluded just spend time with each other" Because the feminist lawyers will demand that such a discriminatory space be shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:50 PM
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Oh yes, sexually and socially attractive people are the most oppressed group in society!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:47 PM
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Where did I say you (or any woman) should date a man without resources? How can you say it's not part of attraction? Are you saying you are attracted to broke, loser, unambitious men? And are you saying there's no added attraction for men at the top of their field? The men other men look up to and admire? That show a lot of success and status and wealth? It's a completely banal and obvious observation that those things add to a man's attractiveness and dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:22 PM
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So ability to provide resources, vs having resources. Still about resources. To be clear, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. Why are so many women in this thread objecting to the banal fact that having or being able to provide resources is a big part of selecting a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:44 PM
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Yes and I am very happy to provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:41 PM
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Just thanking you for supporting the obvious fact that resources, either the having or the getting, is a big part of attraction for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:40 PM
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And they are no longer marrying because they can’t find men making more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:50 AM
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Why would they say it? They just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:48 AM
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Lol, such an important distinction. Not HAVING resources but GETTING resources. The key is still the resources, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:48 AM
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Amazing how a large bank account enhances peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:45 AM
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So you agree that most women want a man with resources, and give several reasons why,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:44 AM
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That’s nice anecdotes, but empirically women are still far more likely to date men making more than them or just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:41 AM
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Women spend more of the combined income in most relationships, More men need to worry more about their partner’s spending than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:40 AM
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WHOSE expectations increased? I’m betting it’s not the husbands. I believe mothers with full time jobs today spend MORE time with their kids than stay at home mothers in the 1950s. And wind up with neurotic over protected children instead of pushing them out the door to play with the neighbor kids until dinner. Parents today are voluntarily putting unreasonable and counterproductive burdens on themselves then turn around and call it oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:22 AM
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A nerve was struck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:16 AM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:26 PM
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Glad we established it’s a word with no real meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:44 PM
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The way a woman’s behavior changes is different depending on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:42 PM
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Nope. I was around 50 years ago. People are outright more mean today. The social media algorithms fried everyone’s brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:47 PM
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More women abuse their children than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:45 PM
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So there’s no definition of creepy or non creepy behavior? Just whatever any woman says about a man at any given time?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:43 PM
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TLDR: never express romantic interest to any woman in order to not be a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:39 PM
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It’s pretty clear you’re not going to give a damn about any man’s feelings regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:37 PM
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All men are guilty for the actions of a few. Got it,
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:36 PM
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It’s not possible to tell if a woman likes you without shooting your shot. One woman’s flirty behavior is another woman just being polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:34 PM
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Politeness has declined across the board, regardless of whether the other person is flirting or being amorous. People are just more misanthropic in general than the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:33 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:29 PM
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And today women far outpace men in college. The world is not the same as it was in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:29 PM
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THEIR children? And the fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:27 PM
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Those are very bad but not what I see commonly described as Toxic Masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:20 PM
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There are connections though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:15 PM
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It’s less that women exclusively picked up the emotional slack in the past, and more that men and women socialized separately more, men supporting men and women supporting women, but the two groups in very different ways. Both men and women provide less emotional support for each other today, but the drop off has been greater for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:14 PM
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Well that’s dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:07 PM
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It’s more like the college senior men dating freshmen women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:01 PM
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Not that it’s wrong, but it does reinforce the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:32 PM
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For better or worse, seems like an extremely effective message especially for young men. There are countless articles about how wide spread it’s become.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:25 PM
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That’s not constrained to Red Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:23 PM
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Everyone already agrees that men are capable of being shitty. Red Pill included.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:21 PM
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This is the Red Pill in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:16 PM
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Or at least they think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:15 PM
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I don’t know why this meme has such staying power. Most of the men divorced by their wives are devastated and have a hard time moving on. They’re not just relieved the wife filed the paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:09 PM
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There’s definitely a selection effect there. People already in a relationship are more likely to go to those places. All the singles are more likely to be at home alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:02 PM
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Or just look at the men women actually date and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:59 PM
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That’s argued very often in how police investigate rape cases, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:58 PM
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Whoosh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:53 PM
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Are you disputing that that a large majority of therapists are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:48 PM
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What’s the relevance of your comment? The topic is people who have had difficulty getting dates and facing a lot of rejection. Your story is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:45 PM
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I would have been just as confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:39 PM
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Well that’s a very different statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:23 PM
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We did. We just renamed it social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:22 PM
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I think it’s baked pretty deeply into men’s biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:21 PM
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It’s pretty hardwired into the species. If anything, I’m fascinated by how thoroughly women have managed to just shut off the desire to have children. Like zero evolutionary drive to propagate their genes. I would not have thought that evolution would have selected for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:20 PM
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Thirst is voluntary? Like, you can just turn off attraction like a switch?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:16 PM
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Perhaps you have a different idea of an ego boost than a lot of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:12 PM
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Empathy doesn’t require an advanced degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:04 PM
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You seem to be defining misogynist as anyone who can be critical of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:59 PM
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There was a time when people might care about others without being paid to do so, believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:57 PM
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And everyone wants an attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:56 PM
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That would require having an inkling of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:55 PM
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As a huge nerd woman finding a nerd guy was never going to be a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:54 PM
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Trauma induced by a lack of social skill, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:52 PM
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I’m sure they tell themselves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:49 PM
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lol no life is not 99% same for everyone. That’s absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:45 PM
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Life is a lot better for attractive people, across many different metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:44 PM
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It is. It’s a field dominated by women catering first and foremost to serving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:42 PM
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Do you think those people are equally distributed between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:38 PM
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No they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:59 PM
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It’s because we used to have organizations and groups for men to belong to and places to congregate. Then they were eradicated because as a society we decided women only spaces are peachy keen but men only spaces are sexist and have to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:52 PM
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No. Men notoriously forgo self care or going to the doctor or therapist. They don’t feel like they’re worth it. They often have a desire to sacrifice for others or causes they care about, but don’t see any value in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:49 PM
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You seem to be in agreement with the post you replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:41 PM
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Nothing, just don’t whine if you can’t get those men. It’s not a problem with not enough men matching your criterion. It’s a problem that you are not meeting the criteria those men are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:38 PM
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That’s the description of a person who should never, ever, ever have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:23 PM
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Because women here are claiming they want to be “invisible“ and being attractive has zero benefits for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:54 PM
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All the data we have is pretty unequivocal that less time spent on in person interaction leads to greater levels of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:50 PM
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The data we have show more men and women were happier in the past, including those who were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:00 PM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:05 AM
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What does “try to make them date you” even mean? Kidnap them? Ask them out in a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:42 AM
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This is a profoundly weird way of thinking. Someone being romantically attracted to you makes you feel subhuman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:39 AM
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That woman is getting a lot more matches and opportunities to date than the corresponding average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:32 AM
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Marriage rates have been dropping rapidly. It’s not zero. But it’s getting harder and harder for men in all the groups you mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:31 AM
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I believe studies show it’s roughly a tie between men and women in relationships in terms of being violent to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:18 AM
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The Bible says men must lay down their lives for their wives just like Jesus did for us. I can’t imagine a higher demand than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:10 AM
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But we’ve over corrected. We spend a lot of time talking about how relationships can be bad for you. And very little time talking about how relationships can be good for you. Not just in dating and marriage. But especially in dating and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:07 AM
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I just gave a lot of other possible purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:56 AM
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Educating young people, serving the poor, inventing life saving medicine and medical procedures, making great art or music, enjoying time with family and friends. The list is infinite, so I don’t understand the relevance of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:43 AM
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The examples of evidence of men lacking ambition or checking out in this thread seem to come from the categories I listed. A man could be living a Spartan lifestyle while still pursuing goals deeply important to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:24 AM
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Men have just learned to not share any dating preferences publicly. Nothing to be gained from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:14 AM
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Very often, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:12 AM
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Socially men are held responsible for regulating their own emotions but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:07 AM
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You are correct!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:00 AM
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The possibility of women earning enough someday to buy many of the nice things she wants is realistic. The possibility of a young man earning enough someday to have a wife and kids is not. At least that’s the perception by the women going to work and the men staying in bed. It’s the expectations they see projected by society around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:59 AM
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“I don’t know” would have taken many fewer words.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:48 AM
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Because if they don’t get out of bed they won’t have money to buy the Mercedes or the Coach bag. Men care less about those things, so care less about getting out of bed. Before having a wife and kids some day motivated a lot of those men to get out of bed and work towards that goal. But modern society has made it clear that’s very unlikely to ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:46 AM
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Women don’t care what JD Vance has to say about anything. Marriage rates and birth rates continue to plummet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:42 AM
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I don’t know. On Reddit they will just ban you from the sub. Maybe hold a sign on the sidewalk next to a women’s studies department? Good luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:40 AM
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And we wonder why loneliness and mental illness are at historic highs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:30 AM
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That’s great but who cares? Why does that make you a better person than someone who has different priorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:26 AM
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Women had external pressures in the past. In the Western world, those don’t exist anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:22 AM
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Women’s goals and aspirations tend to revolve around material possessions and displays of wealth. A relationship with a man can be good if it helps elevate her material status, but otherwise she can just pursue those things on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:20 AM
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Women seem to be shocked and offended that many men care very little about size of home, furnishings, interior design, fashion and personal style, luxury products, or other ostentatious shows of wealth, outside of signaling to women they are interested in. There are plenty of other things that men do enjoy and care about. But to women those things look like men who have checked out and not contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:16 AM
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Responsibilities of women do not come up in any meaningful way in feminist discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:08 AM
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The feminists in this universe have not received that message.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 AM
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Really? In my experience it’s more men just not even realizing things are dirty in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:48 AM
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When you consider all hours spent working, including both paid work and work in the home, men spend slightly more hours working overall. The study was reported by Richard Reeves, but unfortunately I can’t find it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:06 PM
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But men do more hours of paid work than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:25 PM
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Yes, they are incorrectly suggesting that. Because these are two actors performing a skit to sell a product. No one is initiating anything in this video.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:01 AM
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Current data show men in relationships work slightly more overall than their female partners, when both paid and unpaid work is considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:48 AM
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Your stereotypes are 50 years out of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:39 AM
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He’s not initiating anything. He’s touching her arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:18 AM
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It’s almost impossible for a moderately attractive woman to go on Tinder and not become insufferably arrogant. The ego rush must be immense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:08 AM
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People are not caving. People are staying alone and single more and more which we see in the plummeting fertility statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:05 AM
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That graph just shows men die earlier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:02 AM
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But we are going in the opposite direction of that. We are losing the nuclear family, in addition to having already lost extended family connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:58 AM
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Very very few western are into 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:04 AM
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Funny how we lost all the expectations about housework, and kept all the expectations that benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:01 AM
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Men overall don’t really have anything most women want. Most women would prefer to be the CEO’s wife than the CEO. All the wealth and status without the long hours or stress. And that’s just at the very top. There’s certainly nothing average men have that women are envious of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:00 AM
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You are correct. It is important to understand that most women are conditioned to be selfish and only thing of themselves in a relationship, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:58 AM
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True. But it’s important for men to internalize what you articulated so well. Very few women are capable of generosity or thinking of other people in relationships, as they internalize the cultural expectation to be paid for and given things and catering to their feelings and preferences, with no expectation of reciprocation. I just want to thank you for articulating it all so clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:56 AM
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That is simply not true. Study after study show both men and women think more highly of women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:23 AM
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Clearly society is best off with everyone staying inside cut off from real people and spending their time staring at glowing rectangles instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:20 AM
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Congratulations on removing yourself from the gene pool!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:04 AM
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Anecdotes are not data. Overall, marriages, fertility, and relationships are rapidly plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:01 AM
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Well they certainly massively fucked up the last one. Science isn’t a club. It’s facts and empirical data and testing hypotheses. The authorities got a lot right but other things they got massively wrong, now that all the data is in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:19 AM
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If you actually care about the answer and not just engaging in sophistry, go read Jonathan Haidt’s recent work. He addresses these questions in great detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:16 AM
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This shows up in the record levels of mental illness in the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:10 AM
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Because the signals don’t exist. The only way to find out if a woman is interested in you is to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:48 AM
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That is definitely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:43 AM
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This doesn’t exist in the West anymore in any significant way. We are in the middle of a fertility crisis. Women are not being influenced to have more children or have them younger. In general society is currently far more anti children and women hear much more of the downsides of having children than anything positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:18 AM
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No, most people find people attractive or unattractive for similar reasons. In practice, the variations between what people find attractive are relatively small.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:52 AM
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This is the myth that the traits people find attractive or unattractive are randomly distributed. That’s completely false. Women are less likely to find short men, physically weak men, un confident men, poor and unpopular men attractive, for example. There may be exceptions, but they will be rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:49 AM
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“Believing” in the Red Pill intellectually does nothing. The interesting question is to see if men who put Red Pill into practice are more attractive to women after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:04 AM
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That’s not funny. It’s just very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:02 AM
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Why does being hot make someone incompatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:52 AM
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It is for women too. Just different characteristics they consider hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:51 AM
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When considering both paid work and work inside the home, men put in MORE hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:50 AM
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When paid work and work in the home are both considered, men put in slightly MORE hours than women. Everything you are saying is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:49 AM
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The claim that women in relationships do more work than men is 100% bullshit. The latest studies show that, when paid work hours and work inside the home are both considered, men put in slightly MORE hours than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:45 AM
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How is that funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:33 AM
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Grown ups know no one gets their first choice of anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:30 AM
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The number of people in relationships is declining rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:18 PM
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Nah, those are just stereotypes. It just gets expressed differently by men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:11 PM
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I 100% disagree. Men have a lot of compassion that gets expressed differently. That’s why it’s so important for children to grow up with both a mother and a father in the home. And it’s not clear women always like other women. Or just better at hiding their dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:50 AM
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This is the government doing an end around due process, by using the threat of withdrawing Title IX funding to pressure universities into creating a kangaroo court system. And in practice, this alternate system does not take complaints from men seriously. Not that taking due process rights away from women would be any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:48 AM
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I think we should discourage promiscuity for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:42 AM
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Why does taking away due process from men make you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:31 AM
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These colleges are not acting in a vacuum. They are under heavy pressure from the federal government to implement these semi-judicial proceedings skipping over rights you would have in a court room. Or risk losing their Title IX funding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:29 AM
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Revenues for dating apps are down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:26 AM
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I guess it’s old fashioned to think both partners in a relationship should want to make the other person’s life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:24 AM
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I would need to see some data to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:14 AM
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There are studies showing people with high n-count less likely to stay in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:11 AM
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So there it is. Sex is no more meaningful than having a meal with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:10 AM
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The people producing and consuming degrading porn, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:09 AM
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Culture has a huge effect on us we’re often not aware of. We think we do things because they are innate to who we are. But if you were raised in a different culture, it’s likely you would make many different choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:07 AM
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Why did you jump to “outlawing”? Culture can change without the use of force.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:05 AM
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You say that as if what people want or don’t want is innate and not shaped by what they see in the society around them. That’s just not true. The culture you grow up in has a profound affect on what you want or don’t want. What you like or don’t like. A culture where monogamy is more highly prized and cherished, is a society where more people will happily enter into a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:04 AM
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So most women are happier in a sexual culture where everyone is just sleeping around with no emotional commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:55 AM
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Marriage was always meant to reign in male promiscuity and build more stable and loving families and society as a whole. Obviously there were men who kept up the appearance while secretly being promiscuous. But in the whole there were more committed, truly monogamous relationships. This is where someone tells me every man was beating his wife and keeping her as a slave while sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:52 AM
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So run general usage when people say empathy they generally mean sympathy as you describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:43 AM
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I would say the average woman is no more empathetic than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:42 AM
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Just not any more so than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:40 AM
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No. It’s a bias that kicks in even before knowing anything about that specific woman. It’s known as the Women Are Wonderful Effect and there’s a lot of research supporting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:39 AM
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That’s the point being made. Men and women don’t need to consciously think about it. It’s just that I’m average they act a particular way, leading to the same outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:32 AM
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No Father in the home, no male teachers at school, basically no masculine adults to look up to. Then the messages that girls deserve more because their mothers and grandmothers were poorly treated. And the message that it’s always better to err on the side of timidity, lest an unwanted advance damaged a girl’s psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:17 AM
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Employers in STEM fields are falling over themselves trying to hire more women and people of color.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:56 AM
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The Left is mostly college educated whites people cos-playing what they think non-white people are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:55 AM
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Women have pretty much caught up to men in rates of cheating. The only difference is young women cheat more than young men, and older men cheat more than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:15 AM
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Then she should have got an engineering degree and married a man who is a social worker who can pick up the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:58 AM
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Doesn’t blame women. Blames “male biology”. I just read it over again. Why are you determined to make this about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:19 PM
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You are splitting hairs. There is a biological component to desiring sexual approval from women for straight men. It’s possible to overcome this built in desire and base your self worth on other things. So now we are quibbling over “imperative” and “must” vs “impacted”. Those are a matter of degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:54 PM
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Bullshit. Sexual desirability is deeply tied to most people’s feeling of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:20 AM
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Have you ever taken a biology class?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:14 AM
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Reproducing is also pretty damn high on the scale. Look at the crazy things various species do to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:13 AM
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Pretty much everyone’s feeling of self worth is impacted by whether or not they are sexually desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:13 AM
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Bullshit. Pretty much everyone’s self worth suffers from not being sexually desired. Aside from a few monks and asexual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:11 AM
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So the opposite of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:14 AM
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This comment couldn’t be more red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:55 AM
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You do realize this is a sub about sexual relationships right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:52 AM
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Not usually, no. It’s because she’s attractive and he wants to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:51 AM
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There is no significant social stigma any more. Modern women don’t pay any real penalty for having sex with as many men as she pleases. Plenty of Ben will still date or marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:40 AM
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Women are completely comfortable offering sex…to men they want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:38 AM
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Nah, I think women are having as much or as little sex as they want to be having.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:37 AM
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Men staring trash views or not has very little to do with whether women wanting to date them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:32 AM
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Well, by taking such logic at face value, why not pay everyone nothing? Could I introduce you to the NCAA?
/r/MensRights15/09/21 07:50 PM
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Know what else would give you a leg up? Learning French, Spanish or Italian.
/r/MensRights15/01/21 10:05 PM
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You seriously fear male teachers for your daughter? Wow, that’s really messed up.
/r/MensRights15/01/21 09:59 PM
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They are clearly not nurturing the boys they are teaching, based on the results.
/r/MensRights15/01/21 09:57 PM
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You have a narrative in your head completely unrelated to what he is saying. You are trying to fit his experience into what your ideology demands, assuming you know what “really happened” better than he does, even though you weren’t there and don’t know any of the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:12 PM
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No, he did not say or imply that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:30 AM
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Studies seems to suggest inter-partner violence is pretty equal in relationships, relative to gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:01 AM
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How would you know? Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:58 AM
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Why are only a woman’s feelings relevant to you? The man’s feelings are equally valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:45 AM
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I coached a school team of mixed middle school kids, and up through 7th grade, some of the girls were definitely comparable to the most athletic boys. At 13, many of the boys suddenly grew a head taller and there's no comparison from that point forward.
/r/MensRights04/05/20 02:21 PM
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No, the women were paid more.
/r/MensRights02/05/20 11:00 PM
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They took B, and earned more than the men anyway!
/r/MensRights02/05/20 10:57 PM
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No, I don’t think that’s true. Girls are just as good or better up to U12 or so. Then for some odd reason around 13 that all changes... EDIT: I know this is a late edit, but I seriously needed to include the part about puberty and testosterone? That wasn't clear from the "..."?
/r/MensRights02/05/20 10:56 PM
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