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I'm saying that there are people who state that they feel mislead or that we are told we are inherently valuable when this isn't the case and want to be desired without it being the same as saying' they need to beg for my cock and gush' which is a strawman or focusing on a subset of people who are overstated in their number
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:27 PM
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There is no paradox with judging promiscuous women and judging monomogomous women who deny their partner sex, they are two different situations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:12 PM
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I was actually talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:59 PM
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Plenty of men who have a realistic view of things can do so without being total women haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:54 PM
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Yeah well i didnt say that, did i? Men are brutally confronted with the fact that they need to be more than themselves even if the exclusively want a well meaning relationship. Becoming a man today often means having to undo an entire upbringing of misleading ideas. You do need to put a lot into yourself, do well, etc. Many women can get by just fine being themselves and finding a partner, since the financial and other expectations on them are generally far lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:53 PM
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You can simultaneously judge women who are promsicuous while also judging women who trat sex as a chore with their monogamous partner which is more what this about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:45 PM
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We actually are told that 'being a good guy' or 'being yourself' is enough in our youth, which is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:32 PM
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GenZ men are falling behind, largely due to systemic factors totally out of their control. I know some women have crazy standards, but the problem is more average expectations which are unrealistic given our context. A guy earning enough to carry the weight of a family or afford luxury expenses is harder to pull off than it has previously been, and it seems women don't understand it. Women also earn more, which they wanted, but still expect the men they date to earn more despite that standard be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:29 PM
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This seems like a philosophy issue, there isnt a cure for a natural process, pregnancy will always be something difficult and with costs. The rational response to this comment is to say you should have a more realistic view of reality which is that things have pros and cons. Ultimately having kids is not a selfish act, so trying to look at it this way is a non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:27 PM
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how many times do you hear 'indepndent woman' 'career woman' etc? women arent encouraged to be housewives which is the number one issue
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:09 PM
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theres tons of anti natal propaganda, especially for educated people in higher classes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:02 PM
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i disagree if you are friends because you are attracted to her which is this context
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:00 PM
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we need people to have kids otherwiose the fabric of society will erode. Most women would be less inclined if movies, media, schools, etc didnt encourage the behavior. childfree men are an issue but they dont have nearly the same total social patterns women do. Its not just extremist women not having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:00 PM
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fair enough, i just think the reddit softie advice of trying to find chicks through friendships etc fucks a lot of guys over, since it doesnt address the actual issue which is their inability to come off as sexual in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:30 PM
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yeah a lot of guys are blithering idiots bro. obviously if youre some male model shit is easy, but plenty of guys who are 'attractive' who just dont understand how to interact with women. i dont know why this is even an argument, its not black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:28 PM
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Kind of a regard mindset, since that hypothetical guy just needs some nonshit advice/strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:23 PM
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I'm just saying there is a happy medium where you dont need to develop a friendship for months before making a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:16 PM
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its not irrelevant buddy i know people who are attractive and just totally fumbled the bag. the map cant help if you cant read it. you can be attractive and lack the primal sexual energy needed to advance,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:07 PM
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I'm not sure of your age range, but i'd say about 60% of the men i know as a college aged guy are wanting big families or LTRs. If your experience differs from dating, you're likely using a poor dating strategy or doing things to attract user men. It doesn't matter if they are men, the government has overwhelmingly promoted women's liberation for the last 80 years. Women will literally vote for a female candidate because they seem nice or are a woman, i dont see this type of behavior from men. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:00 PM
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This isn't true at all. Women get picked up after 5 minutes of conversation on the street or an app frequently. If you already are a guy who has issues talking with women and follow this strat you are just gonna get 'friendzoned' because most men in such a position wont escalate in time or make their views clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:51 PM
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you can be hot and still be retarded with women and not know how to escalate things properly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:49 PM
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I believe all of this has been deliberate. The only way to fix this problem is to have the government totally change, as women generally are followers and do what they do because the state and institutions tell them to do so. Women are the primary driver of the divide, and men do even worse because of a lack of opportunity to fulfill their existential desires. Almost all of our problems stem from these activities encouraged in women, women choosing to not have families, women having ridiculous s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:48 PM
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you need to have had a woman like you to have a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:47 AM
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baby daddy = implication of deadbeat dad not a wholesome dude who has a kid he loves two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:47 AM
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Most people use these things called 'generalizations' to make conversation easier and often will use words like 'all' or 'most' etc without literally meaning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:45 AM
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Plenty of women are attractive, but women typically are less attractive with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:55 PM
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Women also get lonely and generally want children, Im not sure where this myth of the sovereign woman comes from. I think it's true men are more worried about it since men aren't inherently liked and validated like women constantly, but women still need and want these things in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:34 PM
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People haven't actually changed much until recently which has completely gone ass backwards in most ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:33 PM
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I don't really care what some guy says when I have thousands of years of human behavior and many times that in biological necessity to affirm my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:32 PM
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Why does that not work? Do you know how many people did exactly that for you to be here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:22 AM
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It doesn't matter dude, most people don't have shit going on so they need something to come home too. That plus the biological urge to have kids is what keeps most men going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:21 AM
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Which is most people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:31 PM
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For many, marriage and a family are exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:34 PM
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Actually they do, jerking off doesn't give your life purpose. If thst were true all men would be happy given how ubiquitous porn is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:16 PM
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It can also mean they can't handle pressure as well, not necessarily the job. Most male dominated jobs are more dangerous and have more responsibility, so that doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:08 PM
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Doesn't mean they work more stressful jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:31 PM
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Most people in general water stoicism down to just being indifferent about things and not showing emotion. This isn't exclusive the TRP and is wide spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:34 AM
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It seems pretty obivous given the context but provider... for my family. I dont want to support someone elses kid, the point of being around for most is having kids and a family of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:15 AM
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I didn't mean the task takes it up, i'm saying if half of the time he is consious he is at work then he obviously does not have the same amount of time to do tasks as you do. I'm not saying to never lift a finger, just that you obvious are at home and have more time to do most of these things which is how it evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:17 AM
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Men are on average way more mechanically inclined and better with visio-spatial stuff. This opens up a much wider array of hobbies. There are also more higher iq men and autistic men which probably helps. Women not being interested to the same level in these things cut the amount of them that are visibily into cool things down by a lot. Not saying all women, but definitely significantly more aren't into anything cool on interesting at all. A big part of this is just because there are simply more…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:10 AM
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I don't agree with the premise earning more is merely a reason, but again, the implication by OP and in other comments is thst the high earner actually pays more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:48 AM
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How much was she working before she got to live for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:47 AM
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It can be if he's occupied with other things and not at the house for 1/2 his time he is awake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:45 AM
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I didn't say they were exclusively male or female hobbies, just that women tend to have more of these lame pseudohobbies than men. I specifically put art so you wouldn't think I was only speaking of male hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:43 AM
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Cool, lesbians still have a totally different situation than men do. Lesbians are a very small percentage of the population with a smaller dating pool, women tend to trust other women more than they trust men, etc. I'm not saying never listen to women for anything, just not dating advice. Number one issue for young guys who struggle dating is relying on institutional norms and input from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:59 PM
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I guess. I'm not saying all female interests, but watching netflix and 'traveling' are pretty vapid compared to working on your car, art, or fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:57 PM
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Porn and even a prostitute does not fulfill a mans need to be a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:54 PM
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I have a girlfriend too numbnuts, you know how I got her? Not following the advice of women. Get a bunch of women in a crowd and tell a guy to go in for the kiss without asking outloud for consent like a nerd, many of them will get mad you despite them likely not liking men doing that either. I feel a lot of women don't like to admit how submissive they are publicly, so they don't tend to truly represent what its like. Another key part of what im saying is women typically dont date women, so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:50 PM
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Nothing at all related to my comment. I'm not saying men need to tell you this, but women tend to not have a good understanding of how they actually behave when dating and also tend to make themselves seem better than they are. As a guy dating, women don't have much to offer at all for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:43 PM
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I'll say I agree but men also tend to have more going on. The fish pic might be cringe, but at least you know what his favorite hobby is. You look at 80% of girl profiles and its lame quote plus pic at beach, pic at club and pic traveling somewhere. Guys have these, yes, but more women tend to just have vapid interests or at least appear as such in their profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:41 PM
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The other low caste guys are still having kids and dating bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:39 PM
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I think lesbians would also be different because at the end of the day they are a small community and the dynamic is still different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:38 PM
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There manipulation where you use someone, and there are tactics you use to 'manipulate' women into being more interested in you. You do often need to play a certain game to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:36 PM
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Generalizations are pretty useful is describing broad spans of people, which is what he is doing. There are exceptions of course, but that doesn't mean the basic advice is wrong. Most guys I know would agree, because women don't understand how they behave and react to stuff vs what they say they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:36 PM
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I didn't say that, i just said the opposite. Children =/= small tasks like laundry or cooking in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:33 PM
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Fair enough, but your situation is not the typical one OP is describing since you financed a lot of other things. I also agree children should be cared for by men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:27 PM
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It isn't backtracking, not everything needs to be directly 1.1 to be 'fair'. Splitting chores while one person already works 50 hours a week and the other doesn't is not fair. The man COULD do all of those services on his own, but it makes less sense for him to be doing ALL of the working and earning while his wife has nothing to do. The woman was also working before and is now not, which you keep leaving out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:20 PM
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By everything I more so meant housing expenses. Food, Rent, Utilities, etc. There are plenty of couples that have the man and woman work but the man is expected to pay for all of these things. In that scenario, do you also see why the man would want to do less chores? What about if she doesn't pay any of that but only pays for her own shopping and maybe gas+insurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:16 PM
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Okay, compare having someone pay for everything for you vs not. Its a two way street and calling someone a manbaby for wanting their unemployed wife to pick up in other areas is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:12 PM
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Do you work? That's the entire central point of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:06 PM
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She stays home so they dint have to pay for those things. If the guy pays for everything she can contribute more to the house. This proves OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:05 PM
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He isn't talking about that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:02 PM
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The implication in OPs post is that the high earners also contribute more. Like the man paying the entire rent or for all the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:02 PM
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OPs post implies the higher earner contributes more. Im not sure where you get women having morr stressful jobs from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:00 PM
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If she paid for everything I would agree he should do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:58 PM
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He doesn't lose his ability, it's about a fair distribution of labor. If a woman stays at home with no job, it seems very clear she should take up most of the housework to pitch in. Same goes for if the man pays for more than his proportional share of expenses by a significant or total amount. This is exactly what OP is talking about, if you don't do chores you're a scumbag baby but if you don't work it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:56 PM
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Some people do, but you can support what OP is saying while also agreeing men should equally care for the kid. The reality is the OP scenario applies to many childless couples. Children aren't helpless toddlers forevor and require less and less attention as they grow and especially when going to school. Without the children, I view a home maker as important but it's hard to justify it being stressful enough to need any major help from the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:54 PM
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I'd say you're on the fringe of this. Most people have smaller income gaps yet many women still want their man to pay for everything and they do. I think with two earners everything should be proportional, but if it isn't there should be something to balance it out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:51 PM
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She can move in with her parents and have them pay for her whole life if she's inept Your comment is the exact same thing OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:42 PM
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I mean.. Work has all sorts of other similar things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:57 PM
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There's a difference between simply earning more and actually being the one who pays for everything. I was wondering if you think it's fair for a guy who pays for every expense related to the house to do less/no chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:51 PM
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For child related stuff sure, but like OP is pointing out basic chores aren't any more important than finances yet are treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:50 PM
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We know, that's why he made the thread since it doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:49 PM
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The point of the thread is many women have their finances taken care of by their husband, and women don't appreciate thst and over value the chore segment of the relationship. Some men being bums doesn't matter at all to this point. Most guys would agree the dude is a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:41 PM
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OP didn't explicitly say it, but the implication here is the man is providing most of the financial support. Even if the woman earns an income, in many situations the man is paying for all the living expenses. If you both work but one person pays for everything, it makes sense the other would make up for this in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:22 PM
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Good thing he isn't discussing situations where women are the provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:19 PM
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Would you say that if he contributed more financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:14 PM
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I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:13 PM
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The portion he's discussing is what he's discussing. It's very very common for men to be the sole earner or pay all the bills. Women online undervalue this and bring uo being a mom to their husband etc. I and I am sure OP would agree stay at home dad's doing no chores are bums. Again, this is totally irrelevant to where men are the providers and women tend to always side with other women no matter what while undervaluing finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:08 PM
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I agree, but he's talking about when men are sole or contribute more. For example, if we both work but I pay for all the bills (which is a common expectation on more traditional women) then you make up for that with chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:05 PM
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It's not earning, but contribution. If the finances are split proportionally, the chores should be as well. If a man is the sole income or pays more than proportion, he should do less chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:57 PM
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because he isn't talking about stay at home dads or female breadwinners dude. Them existing doesn't undermine the premise of where women do chores and don't work and then complain about it. I and I'm sure OP would agree that a stay at home dad who wants his wife to do chores is a bum, but literally not what we're discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:55 PM
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Okay, not what I'm talking about and id imagine OP would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:40 PM
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That isn't what he meant. He's saying women wouldn't call out a female bread winner with a stay at home dad out for being a leech. If you get into arguments about this, the egalitarianism is lost because men who contribute via financial means aren't held to the same weight as women doing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:39 PM
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It's easy, he's talking about scenarios where the specific situation he describes is true. Situations where women earn more aren't what he is discussing. Bringing up other types of scenarios is irrelevant, and the scenario he described is pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:30 PM
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Kids are outside the scope of what is being discussed. OP didn't say the dad shouldn't take care of the kid. I agree at night men should help with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:23 PM
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Where do you get 20 more hours from? 40 hours a week is more than enough for cleaning, shopping, cooking. I can take your logic and say a woman can just live with her dad if she wants to be taken care of and not do anything to make up for the disparity in contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:21 PM
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People seem to be missing the point on this. People are posting studies about where women earn more, this isn't being discussed. Women often are stay at home moms, or have their husband pay high than proportional living expenses. In this scenario, the distribution of labor would ideally have the woman, who is otherwise not doing anything, take care of household tasks like grocery shopping or cooking. The common complaint OP is addressing is that women throw the words "she's not his mom" or "grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:20 PM
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He didn't cherry pick anything. He's talking about situations where men earn and pay more, your entire paragraph is about the opposite, which he isn't talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:16 PM
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Yeah but you are just together doing that, I specially am saying child stuff should be shared friend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:07 PM
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Because the women you're presumably trying to be in a relationship with thinks the load is uneven. What if she's wrong? How is 40 hours at work different from 40 hours of working on household tasks? Most men don't pay all of a house holds bills. Plus you don't get to just not do chores even if you do Were talking about a common scenario where they pay all or most. Why should I do laundry and cook if I am working and you are not? Obviously certain shit men prefer to do, but we're talking day to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:06 PM
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I agree with child care. I just think day to day tasks with a woman staying at home make more sense. This way you ideally don't have much to do in the evening besides dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:02 PM
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Why does it matter who does more chores? The bills need to paid. You all really just want bang dad's to take care of you huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:00 PM
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It depends on who's paying for what. If the higher earning person pays more than proportional then they should do less house work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:59 PM
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Don't see what the first study has to do with OPs situation where the husband is the primary or sole breadwinner. Second study shows men work more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:57 PM
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What does this have to do with what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:53 PM
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What does this have to do with the situation OP provided where there is a large disparity in income
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:53 PM
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I've seen both. Women will be SAHMs and complain their husband doesn't help with chores and she feels like she's his mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:52 PM
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Redpill community is not the incel community. Redpill is about working within reality to be effective, some fo those happen to shit on women but it's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:44 AM
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This is just stupid psychoanalysis of a fictional projection in your mind. People can have a logical opinion that isn't just a result of their own flaws. There's are valid reasons for all of these thoughts that aren't just an inferiority complex. There are plenty of logical reasons to be insecure about your mate potentially sleeping with someone else. Also, don't conflate RP with incel, plenty of RP people who get laid all the time or are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:27 PM
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Did you skip financial support and relationship? There's also nothing in what I said that implies I wouldn't do any house stuff. If you abstract everything like this nothing matters and you're just a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:04 PM
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The 4B movement is a reaction by SK men to SK's very feminist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:35 AM
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South Korea was literally run by a feminist cult at one point and is probably the most feminist on the planet in terms of work culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:34 AM
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There's no way to talk about gender dynamics without sweeping generalizations, otherwise we would be having a conversation about "people" and not men or women. Obviously not everyone or every woman is the same, but it'd be stupid to even attempt a conversation without generalizing in this context. If I inserted "many" before the word "women" you wouldn't be pissed off for no reason right now, yet every intelligent person can read my comment and deduct I probably do not mean EVERY woman. GENERALL…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:28 AM
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Why do I need a PhD to point out that even if women are more emotionally intelligent they still wouldn't have good dating insight due to a lack of experience? I also never called women dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:19 AM
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No one said any of that. No one wants stick gf, they just don't want an obese one which is a large cohort now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:55 AM
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Not true, most men wouldn't care if makeup went away over night. Most of this looks pressure is put onto women by other women. If all women were butch and lesbian looking the same amount of sex would be had. If all men were ugly then there'd be less sex total.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:52 AM
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You can invest in off spring but also accept feasible partners rather than waiting it out. There's also less things to select for in women in a historical setting where women were basicslly just moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:51 AM
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Not one to try to gotcha. I'm just saying, I disagree with the premise empathy or even EQ would make up for women's lack of experience in what it's like to date them, or how defensive they can get when certain standard dating truths are pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:49 AM
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You're right OP. Every comment is just arguing about your example and not addressing what you're saying for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:42 AM
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The guy does basically all the leg work early on the majority of the time. Sometimes its women chasing, but not often. Women sit and are wooed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:37 AM
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I disagree with what thjs guy said replying to you with. There is truth in that women will say things that make guys feel better, but not give them the truth. Be yourself doesn't always work, because women can also base everything off looks. Many women don't admit that as one example. Imo the biggest lie women tell is how they want to to be treated. Women like to be swept off their feet, but ask them for advice and they with admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:36 AM
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This article says women have more empathy, that doesn't necessarily mean they are more in tune with their emotions or better at socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:34 AM
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She can do thst on her own, doesn't mean she wants to or will be comfortable. I have a girlfriend who wants to do these things. I'm not sure what your point is, almost everyone who's ever existed has had a relationship with children. I offer being cool and awesome. A father to her children and again, the relationship which can't be understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:39 AM
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A relationship, financial support, a man in her life? Basically the mirror of what she offers? Not sure why you're going guns blazing with the misandry on the most normal thing in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:08 AM
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You'll see most people in general want a fulfilling relationship, almost nothing can fill that void.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:08 AM
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No? I need a wife and actual family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:42 AM
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No, children need a mom in their life lol. I want an actual family not an artifical baby and a prostitute. My child needs a mother as all children do. Anyone who grew up with a single parent can tell you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:41 AM
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That's just their imperative then. The answer isn't to set the expectation of females relationships with guys. As a guy, I know most guys are comfortable with one solid friend, while women have more friends thst aren't necessarily as close.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:37 PM
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I'm not sure where this comes from either, I don't know many men with 0 friends besides married guys who don't have time for it. Men just socialize differently. I feel like this whole friendless men thing is a myth that took a life of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:23 PM
2

Nah, you're wrong and he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:11 PM
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Because I still need to have kids and have sex. I also question the idea women are fine without men that's promoted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:04 PM
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For men it basically doesn't unless you have some niche way to contribute to society like being a scientist or something
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:04 PM
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Women can't either, I don't know where this myth women are fine going alone comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:03 PM
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You can blame them for giving bad advice or having bad ideas of how reality is without it being intentionally malicious. Most men don't think women are deliberately sabotaging men, but a lot of feminist rhetoric about dating and women's own advice is sabotaging regardless of positive intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:19 PM
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He didn't say it was, its just bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:59 PM
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That is exactly around when it dropped, and 100 years is a historically insignificant amount of time with what we are discussing. I'm not OP, so if he misspoke it doesn't matter. The PREMISE that most of human history had the conditions he described in general. You didnt have wide access to contraceptives, there was a necessity for children, a wide spread desire for children, and much more significant labor in the home for the woman, and work for the provider. These led to woman and men being fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:02 PM
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Doesn't change the fact most people were having children and many more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:23 PM
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The better way to put this is gender roles are natural and it makes sense for men to be head of household and therefore represent their family. Patriarchy is feminist bs thst undermines women naturally needed to do this stuff for most of human history for society to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:22 PM
1

Thsie things existing doesn't undermine the premise that most people were having and rearing children, had more children, had more physically demanding jobs, and home chores weren't automated or simplified by machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:21 PM
-1

Nothing to do with what he said. 50 years of tech doesn't undo the biological factors on our social system going back hundreds of thousands fn of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:19 PM
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Most guys don't have the desire for this. If I have a problem I want to talk about it and have practical advice, or go have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:14 PM
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Better title is " womens standards are keeping them from reproducing"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:15 PM
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Is that soldier death statistic current? We are not in a war, so it's not really fair to evaluate it off of that and it's a matter of political policy to implement it vs implementing a counter measure for birthed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:21 PM
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Okay, still very very rare and entirely different. I'm not taking a position on the issue, but it's apple to oranges with insituting a draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:15 PM
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I agree that's messed up, but it's still very rare and rhetorically an odd thing to bring up. It isn't the 1600s where very very high quantities of birth complications with no fix for are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:04 PM
1

Yes. Nature is a zero sum game and by opting out you're basically working against millions of years of evolution and betraying your ancestors. I see no other point to life than having kids and building something to pass on to them. I could understand if someone didn't want to focus on it because they were exceptionally talented or had some other impact, but I am not that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:52 PM
1

Genes still exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:50 PM
1

If both people work and financially contribute equally, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:48 PM
3

Because expecting a guy to go to work all day then come home to a messy house when his wife is unemployed like shes a toddler and then launder her shit stained underwear is the opposite of foreplay Might work for a few months when the relationship is new, but it won't be long before he feels like her father instead of her lover See? Again, i feel you're ignoring the context i've provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:35 PM
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you're just saying some femcel shit rn. All i said is if a guy is taking home all the money and covering that, splitting chores doesn't make sense. I did not say women need to by mommy and do everything regardless of context. Why do you feel thats wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:23 PM
1

Who paid her bills when she lived alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:20 PM
2

Most guys don't actually want women drafted, its just that if women are supposed to be made equal across society, its only fair they have to do this as well. As other have said, child birth in the developed world is significantly safer than its ever been and pregnancy is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:05 PM
1

Depends on income. If a guy is taking home the money splitting chores doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:02 PM
0

Most women still aren't doing that if they are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:01 PM
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I didn't say i'm able to have all my needs met, the last part of my post is about how a friendship is not a relationship. My point is that Men do have good friendships where they can discuss issues, but acting like this fills the void of a sexual and romantic relationship for both sexes is retarded. Additionally, thinking that Men should have a deep desire to make their MASCULINE friendships more FEMININE is misguided at best. Men need romance, sex, and largely families which other Men can't pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:57 PM
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I'm tired of hearing this shit. I have plenty of deep connections with my close friends, even my more periphery friends. A friendship is not a romantic relationship and never will be, which isn't some cultural flaw of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:40 PM
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In my experience, male friendships are a lot stronger than women's. I don't really understand where the women make friends thing comes from. If a man gets a roommate, he's either neutral or likes him, then maybe will hate him if he sucks over time. Women are always being besties with their roommates, but in reality the friendship is very superficial and will collapse when they move or have minor drama. That is, if they don't secretly hate each other already. This entire argument stems from a fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:36 AM
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Not really discussing what men want, I'm mrle discussing what women bring to the table as people and how the comment I was replying too (and others like it) make women seem like they're enlightened or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:38 PM
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Cool, doesn't make them more interesting which is the point. Most women offer pussy and companionship alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:37 AM
1

I don't support men being assholes and using women, but i cant fully blame them when women are so susceptible to this and put themselves in the situation. When you date as a guy, you have to learn to pretend to be more confident than you are, funnier than you, more charismatic than you are, etc to get your foot in the door. I don't like people who manipulate women, but you have to learn 'the game' somewhat to get ANYWHERE with women. Again, two identical guys, one pretends to be the above, he ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:39 AM
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Redpill =/= incel hunchbacks bitching about women not dating them No, it's because many women we know constantly have misfortune in dating due to their own bad choices in how they date. Take two identical guys (with good traits) but have one be himself and the other follow dating strategies, and the dating strategy one will be more successful. Women tend to respond better to a curated profile and saying the right things, and a large percentage of the ones women go for are guys who have tons of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:22 AM
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I and most others aren't saying women shouldn't be picky, we're saying women are picky about the wrong things to their own disadvantage. Yes, women can have icks, but if they're icked out by something insignificant and end up going with shitty guys it's to their detriment. Men do pick badly but men have far less options so it's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:24 PM
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We created a society with no supports structure, but also one that created a narcissistic sense of self importance where you can ignore reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:16 PM
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Not really true. I am in a relationship and have female friends. Most of their problems in dating come from their inability to pick decent guys. This is largely caused by their dating process which filters out well intentioned guys over stupid things. I don't consider looks to be stupid, there are also decent guys who are good looking but get dropped over minor icks and women's communication preferences. This is what most guys are talking about. The grim reality most men discover is you basicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:12 PM
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Because the modern PC stuff is actually anti science and pointing out the obvious natural influence on culture and behavior goes against Marxist blank slate theory which is promoted everywhere and the dominant ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:27 PM
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The implication of the comment I was replying too and others like it is thst women are all these very interesting people that are dismissing boring brutish men in favor of higher level relationships. I called this out because (like most men) most women are also boring and don't have anything particularly great to offer. The "women of the world who enlighten us with their presence" wasn't me expecting that, I'm just making fun of this weird high horse some women making these comments come off as …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:06 PM
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Sure, doesn't have anything to do with the above claim that a career makes you interesting and that women have significantly more to offer than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:51 PM
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You don't get what people mean by pick better. People don't mean "date down to ugly nice guys like me". Women have all sorts of issues and date ass hole becauses they have the wrong priorities in the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:55 PM
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Online dating and my space from back then aren't even close to how it is now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:49 PM
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No, not really. I have an equal number of anecdotes from going to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:32 PM
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Having a career isn't what makes you interesting and fulfilling to be around. The point is women aren't all women of the world who enlighten us their mere presence. They are regular ass people that mostly aren't interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:30 PM
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not true for early 20s in my experience. Just narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:54 AM
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I mentioned early ages, I dont think it carries through beyond 18-20.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:53 AM
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I don't care about the instance, I care about the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:54 PM
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My premise is women over estimate their maturity, the age gap was just an example and not the premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:49 PM
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People ignore the fact dating irl unless it's picking up someone at a bar has significant potential fallout and awkwardness. When you go on an app you know the intentions, when you try to meet people through social clubs you aren't sure and have a lot more risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:41 PM
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I never mentioned casual sex. Pursuing legit relationships is easier if you understand how you have to act when interacting with women which is what I meant by "the game".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:40 PM
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You're getting too caught up on a minor part of it. Women date older because they see themselves as more mature as one major reason, and women who do date way older list it as a big reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:40 PM
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Marriage is an extreme risk for men due to unbiased courts, especially if you're the provider or breadwinner like many men are. This applies to men who want a long term exclusive relationships as well. It isn't thst men just want to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:36 PM
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I'm not saying old, most women date a guy a few years older than them in my expierence. More young women than young men are in a relationship, math on thst doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:33 AM
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"The game" can also just mean knowing how to interact with women in a way that they are more responsive too rather than being yourself and treating them the same as you would a regular friend. I don't think there is a point in discussing this further since you just vomit the looks stuff. Most guys aren't trying to be players and you can improve yourself in meaningful ways. Looks are a big factor but not the only thing. Part of me thinks you're a shitposter trying to make redpillers look retarded…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:17 AM
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Okay, the point was older men, I was using thst as an extreme example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:14 AM
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By self image I meant you saying older guys have maturity or other problems to date younger, when it's just because younger women look better and are maybe more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:14 AM
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I don't know what you're on about. RP guys like Rolo say it's a matter of leanring the game. Most RP guys understand looks matter, but also don't say it's pre-destination, that's more incel stuff. Plenty of below average guys with hot girlfriends in college, plenty of rich guys with mid wives. I'm not talking about myself here at all, it's a detached thing. RP guys aren't all sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:14 AM
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Maybe saying 30s was wrong, but it's older guys in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:12 PM
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I understand that, this type of talk isn't very novel tbh. My point is you can be a 6 but he smart, rich, funny, etc. This is where self improvement comes in, uglier guys have a hard time but it doesn't mean you're fucked, that's why you get in shape, improve social skills etc to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:11 PM
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Those less socialized guys are often people who get good degrees and get a head start. They may have other issues but being outgoing isn't maturity alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:09 PM
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For sure, but it seems many honestly believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:08 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I also think it isn't good universal advice because for many the thing keeping them in a bad place is loneliness. I was lonely for a long time and the improvement stuff was basically a cope. While it hasn't solved everything my general mentality has improved 100% because I'm not alone. This is the case for a large percentage of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:07 PM
1

This makes a lot of sense, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:05 PM
2

What does this have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:04 PM
2

Could you link the stats? My experience is totally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:03 PM
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I agree with you, it's ridiculous for a 20 year old girl to expect guys her age to have the same career level and wealth as a much older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:02 PM
2

I addressed this in the post. Plenty or a lot of young guys do want commitment, but women tend to play into "the game" and only date player type dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:02 PM
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Not really buddy, women just don't get that their time of prime youth is limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:00 PM
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I agree totally. Many women older than 35 still act this way. Once they dont have pretty young girl status it gets worse and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:59 PM
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Most dudes I know want a woman he finds attractives (most women are fairly attractive) and that's it. I don't see many people wanting a 10/10 only, and if they do that's a rare person. Your average incel guy or dude who can't get laid doesn't have crazy physical standards. It's usually other things like wanting a traditional girl etc thst filter them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:57 PM
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Just an example, not the only thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:20 PM
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Most of those men just care about looks and its not some self image thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:19 PM
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Not all, but many
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:18 PM
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Your immutable facial features arent the only factor in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:40 PM
1

People had tons of kids at all levels until mass media, whos indoctrinated more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:38 PM
2

Not sure why people bring up these courses when most people dont buy anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:37 PM
1

Not being in a relationship is probably one of the biggest factors causing a 'messy existence' for most people especially men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:36 PM
1

Where do you see men as less mature? I could agree for 15 year olds, but 20? Unless your definition is women can drink earlier I don't see it, especially once people start working.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:25 PM
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The main point here is women have inflated egos lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:10 PM
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okcupid released stats on this a while back
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:41 PM
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women rank dudes mostly as below 5s while men have a standard distribution in how they rank them. Also, couples and long term relationships arent the big factor in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:38 PM
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Or you're wrong and women tend to be the ones with high standards which is reflected with stats and anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:35 PM
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I agree with him, I'm saying the institutions like school etc are more impactful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 12:38 AM
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Nothing to do with the institutional changes which are far more impactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:43 PM
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Motivate to do what? If you're a 20 year old dude doing everything right you still aren't going to be making a ton of money, have a ton of relationship experience, or have whatever women define as "maturity"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:24 PM
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Sometimes I wish lol. If I weren't attracted to women I'd never talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:02 PM
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If you're a virgin guy it's better to be honest with yourself than lie. Telling dudes women don't care about virginity is bad advice. If you're an old virgin fake it until you make it or get a prostie
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:50 AM
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Not true, not everyone is going to the doctor for this lol, most arent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:27 PM
1

Almost every dude I know my age had had trouble getting up once they got a gf the first time because of porn addiction. Fetishes are gojng up because people need newer stuff to get off. The potion exposure and type of porn changed radically since you were ten.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:12 PM
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Teen pregnancy means under 18, were specifically talking about legal which is 18+. Women in their early 20s have the highest fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:51 PM
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Its not just dating, going off of the apps women have the same ten jokes and barely anything interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:45 PM
1

Okay? This is a new issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:44 PM
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I've dated many women and most women care about TV shows, cosmetics, consumption, and current events promoted by social media. Plenty of men are boring, but almost all women are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:51 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:19 PM
1

Wacking it all the time is becoming pretty common among young people who grew up with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:18 PM
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What evidence do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:17 PM
1

It's a problem regardless, kids start watching it and it shapes their views of sex and causes negative side effects of frequent masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:17 PM
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Most women don't have any deep interests or passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:14 PM
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I don't know you so I have to generalize here based on my experience talking to women. Especially since I don't know your type. If you're consistently dating dudes that aren't interesting or smart, something in what you are selecting for getting you those guys. It could be the way you judge profiles, getting a few matches in the first few swipes, your selection process in going through your matches etc. Most of the time guys are either dumber than women or way more intelligent at a distribution …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:57 AM
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Its hard to take this type of thing seriously when women are the ones to throw a temper tamptrum 99% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:52 AM
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Don't know how people can claim to be 'redpilled' and defend porn like its not a big societal problem. Most younger dudes have ED because the wack it to much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:49 AM
2

What exactly do you mean with your first paragraph? Thats a very odd perspective to have, what i'm trying to get across here is that judging their social skills by their random-person-texting app skills isn't a solid judgement of their character or any of the traits you mentioned. This is one facet of my point where women are to stingy with who they drop. What do you consider to be 'sometihng wrong'? Obviously you don't want anyone who's dangerous, a loser, or manipulative, but i feel a lot of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:43 AM
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Idk dude all I know is I know a lot of guys who struggle with dating because girls will drop a guy over the most insignificant thing, meanwhile every girl I know just dates scumbags. It's almost like it's hard to get your personality across in 5 pictures and a paragraph. The guys who are successful in the apps understand "the game" which is manipulating the fact most women have some formula they fall for depending on the type of guy they're into.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:37 AM
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It's actually not a nightmare, you just need to do a better job of learning how to pass on playboys while not dropping men over minor shit that doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:17 AM
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In my experience, women have a very difficult time picking a good guy out. For all the supposed empath and intuition they very often will pass up 50 decent dudes because some guy has a quirky they like or is handsome, then wonder why they're left holding the bag with a total Cad. Id also say that women are pretty bad at describing what they actually want. These girls online may say they want x y and z, but their behavior in dating likely doesn't reflect anything they're talking about (see the ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:14 AM
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Never gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:00 AM
1

It's not about being good enough lol. Women are about half of existence for most guys so that is a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 PM
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It's not about being good enough lol. Women are about half of existence for most guys so that is a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:44 PM
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It's not just the self improvement it's explaining self improvement in the context of the reality of male existence, which is way different than the mostly female explanations for things which dominate education etc. Telling a guy to go to the gym without an explanation of why it's important besides "making him feel better" doesn't do much. A lot of this supposed women hate isn't women hate at all it's just explaining harsh realities of how dating and preferences work. This was just an example a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:38 AM
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The reason red pill guys like Andrew tate have taken off is because (whatever your opinion on them is) they often give advice that's grounded in the reality of the male experience. The self improvement stuff is true, your value as a person (if you can't turn off your desires for acceptance) does come from your skills, your money, etc. These guys have a lot of inflammatory rhetoric but they provide harsh truths which work for many people is what most guys need vs. Emotional support or validation …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:50 AM
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Men don't need validation men need practicality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:42 AM
2

Sure, but Korea and Japan are about ten years ahead of us and have been due to their corporate and anti natal culture, which has been around for a long time and is the cause of the 4b and related stuff. Those groups/mindsets are a symptom not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:21 PM
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I'm not sure why there is the hold up on 4b, South Korea has been culturally feminist for a long time. It's not about being radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:13 PM
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Men in the west have the same problem and no conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:12 PM
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I'm saying its cause isn't economic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:12 AM
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The issue is not economic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:37 PM
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What exactly are you arguing here? This guy isn't claiming every girl needs to put out day 1, just that withholding for extended periods isn't gonna bode well for you dating wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:35 PM
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Its been culturally ingrained into men that approaching them irl is not good, regardless of the truth in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:31 PM
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Not a big part of the problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:30 PM
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It has been for some time, the west has had fourth wave feminism for a while. The birth rate has only been maintained via immigration. The women in SK were ALREADY feminist before the recent 'anti-feminism' came about. In south korea women get educations and the culture is very non-cohesive for relationships of any kind. Same things has been happening here and is noticeably worse with GenZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:30 PM
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SK has still had radical feminism and antinatalist culture for that length.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:26 PM
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Most men swipe rifgt on the first ten profiles they like, and tinder tends to show you more attractive first. For men its a matter of shooting their shot and those women are available, they probably aren't even seeing average women and wouldn't hesitate to swipe on them. Most men don't even really operate on the 1-10 scale, it's a matter of hot or not with most women being hot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:15 AM
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I want normal kids sorry
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