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maybe but does the phenomenon require a wall of text effort to debunk??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:23 PM
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Let’s put it this way. The hint they would give if they were interested would be much more obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:16 PM
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that would just result in denial of the initial flirting. This is absolutely not a clear sign. IT IS
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:11 AM
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For example, if a woman reacts to your flirting by calling you her “friend” or pretending you’re joking, she does not like you. its called being polite ands trying to let you down gently and not cause too much cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:10 AM
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great point 'ask' V 'guess' though a bunch of people are not prepared for the cringe of direct asking -- and then whine about the cringe of direct 'ask' “I have a question for you and ‘no’ is a perfectly acceptable answer.” is fantastic, particularly the second clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:08 AM
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Then they hint back that they are not interested and a bunch of men don't pick up on, or refuse to pick up on the hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:05 AM
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reacting appropriately she will play along to avoid the cringe of having to reject a guy. you're basically trying to avoid the cringe of "I have to tell you something" -- you are putting all the responsibility onto the woman. so you are suggesting that IF should has in indication that a guy in her social circle is attracted / interested, if she doesn't want to have some romantic involvement she should reject him -- to which undoubtedly his reaction would be to DENY he showed interest (ego self p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:04 AM
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it really isn't. 2nd wave feminism had a much more misandric element that 3rd does. Guess it just depends where you get you representations of both from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:12 AM
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…. And women were all very happy pre-feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:15 PM
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Similarly women with self-esteem issues also find it difficult to extract themselves from abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:14 PM
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Trickle down patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:49 AM
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I have yet to have a woman ever tell me what women in general, or her herself, will bring to a relationship. hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:15 PM
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I am engaging in it, and I am in no way mischaracterising it. It is the other replies (including yours) that are avoiding to back up what they have said. It has been explicitly said directly in the original comment, and implied by yours. In what way is murder and theft “of the same variety” as consenting sex? Have some courage and stand behind (and explain) your stated opinion. I can only think that your view is either that sex is “sinful”, or that you consider casual sex something that diminish…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 06:48 PM
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In what way is consenting sex between adults of ‘similar variety’ as theft or murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:59 AM
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So why equate either with consenting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:17 PM
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what the du I are you talking about ? You were equating (stealing / murder) with consenting sex. Is consenting sex unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:16 PM
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lol equating consenting sex with theft and murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:48 PM
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Veterinarians are capable of being emotionless whilst cutting into the flesh of a domesticated pet. not good partner material teachers are used to dealing with people with lower educational level that them so their tone and manner is often patronizing when dealing with an equal. engineers think they can fix anything. IT / Software, likely autistic accountants. great fun when it comes to budgeting spontaneous finances. scientist always want any viewpoint pier reviewed, similarly the same applies …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:31 PM
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what jobs are ok??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:34 PM
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indefinitely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:15 PM
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The $100k butthole paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:21 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:13 PM
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wut
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:57 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:32 PM
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nobody believes you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:46 PM
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it's either they want validation from me or dislike me and getting laid isn't validation for you - that they will fuck you? also do you find that having sex with a women, even just getting laid, is fulfilling your emotional needs? Let's say you currently have sex twice a month. What would be the impact on you if for some reason you didn't have sex for a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:09 PM
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If I came in arms open and vulnerable, I'd be at greater risk of being taken advantage of. That mindset is going to be on the female end no matter what, you gotta go in matching that energy. but that is what i am saying. if there is a person or people in my orbit, do i care about them? yes. if i heard something bad had happened to them would i feel something - empathy - yes of course. "Caring" is not a binary of 1. Blackpilled...I don't care about anyone if they haven't given me reason to care" …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:41 PM
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You are saying you do not automatically extend the olive branch of “caring about” a women as a default position for women who come into your orbit who you don’t already know or haven’t already decided that you like them. At the same time you complain that women “don’t care” about you. Do you see the mirroring of your position within the mindset of these women? Do you think it it possible that the two mindsets are related and feed off each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:21 PM
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so then attempted rape doesn't need a physical threat. PurplePillDebate at work! you've changed your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:01 PM
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so how could someone you expect a women to care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:59 PM
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coercion can be implied, or simply situational
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:42 PM
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No why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:41 PM
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it’s crazy how blind they are lmao because they actually think this lmfao low self esteem. that woman that hanging around couldn't possibly be interested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:30 PM
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If she's into you, she'll fucking love it if you pull her close and kiss her. If she doesn't like you, she'll ........... .........perhaps feel surmised at your aggressive come on ..... etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:28 PM
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>is very common for a man to initiate any form of intimacy you realise this is a result of patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:22 PM
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"ok with" is not equivalent to "would rather it not happen / people should do it" did i care? no. meant it didn't have any negative consequence for me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:20 PM
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Also, yes, most females were apathetic to my existence. So if you don't give a fuck about me, don't expect me to spend any energy on you. do you think if you gave more of a fuck about women (other than the ones you already decided you like), you might meet more women who give a fuck about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:10 PM
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so can someone psychologically pressure and there be a perceived vibe of an implication ? there is no physical attempt there
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:08 PM
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it is not unheard of that men react badly to rejection, possibly violently. it's obvious not cut/dry binary but men and reading subties of body language (and some women not understanding how it needs spelled out - why some women are brutal and frank). >I've gone my entire life with woman not giving an iota of a fuck about my safety or well-being, don't expect me to provide that level of care when I know it would never be reciprocated. that's just fucked up. do you think that some of the way's yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:47 AM
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so under some circumstances pressure = attempted rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:43 AM
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it was not my intention to be condescending, so i'll apologise it that was how it was taken. they seemed to be angry at women ("they're weak little darlings and should get a pass.") that women's trauma is taken seriously by society whilst the same trauma within men is not (i agree that this is true). my point was that when a sexual assault / harassment attempt (whilst the man is conscious) is not the same in the vast majority of cases as the man is not in a situation that there is a physical thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:26 AM
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well done misrepresenting my point so that you can feel like you can score. women are more physically vulnerable, that doesn’t mean men are vulnerable. It is just a sad fact and why the threat is more salient in their mind. or is it the case that whenever you’re by chance alone in a space with a women that you’re afraid of being sexually harassed or sexually assaulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:43 AM
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that is not what I said. I am very sorry that that happened to you and it is clearly wrong. It’s obviously done considerable psychological damage to you and I hope that you are able to work through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:39 AM
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You said you were ok with the sexual attention so what happened to you wasn't assault. that is simply not what i said. you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:46 AM
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the difference perhaps is ..... I have been sexual assaulted by a woman while drunk did i care? no. was it awkward? yes, a little. Was i able to take charge of the situation? yes easily. women are in general so much physically weaker they are much more vulnerable, an unfortunate fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:22 PM
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kind of like this/that thread!! : ) I get it though, and it’s clear you have a sense of humour about it. Just remember that tone and nuance is even harder to communicate and understand in text than it is in real life (for both neurotypical and neurodivergent).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:19 PM
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is the ability to read the room a quality someone would want in a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:25 PM
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If you wouldn't want your daughter doing something i don't think most women would like society's standards for their behaviour dictated by how their father's would like them to be (pro tip - it already is)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:24 PM
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How convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:00 PM
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Did your treatment of her, or your philosophical approach to relationships (such as your previous reference of “Dread Game”) in anyway contribute to her psychological state?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:17 AM
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Sounds like a way to conduct healthy relationship 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:58 PM
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no it's "all the reasons he wouldn't have a LTR relationship with them"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:32 PM
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Dread Game ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:31 PM
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>Emma Sulkowicz is an example. ​ how?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:29 PM
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How would I be flattering myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:43 PM
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IMO it’s the root of a lot of issues, men creating (in their head) infantilised women who are angels - putting them on such a pedestal that socially anxious young men are intimidated by, and fear leads to hate. It’s not the women’s fault, these things are essentially benign misogyny from a patriarchal culture. It’s one of the better examples of how men can become victims of the patriarchy / toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:01 PM
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1 and I am not red pill at all, a bit black pill but politically likely viewed as fairly left
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:03 PM
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Not really. Its only a reflection on those men's views on that particular situation. I'll try to be clear. The men's views diminish the abuse. You are just saying "Not really, it's just that their views are that it is less of an issue" >"it is also more common for women to be in need of help" - you have no source to back this, but perhaps it is true (it a society that is structure patriarchally). >that's not what toxic masculinity is i said "it is much more acceptable for women to express vulner…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:10 AM
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men saying "i would be pleased if a hit teacher had had sex with me when i was a minor at school", is *literally* diminishing the abuse involved. i wouldn't say "most women" harbour "damsel in distress" (but then neither of us have anything more concrete than our own perception to support each position) - But it is much more acceptable for women to express vulnerability, again toxic masculinity. there is the expectation to "go rescue this women" (white knight). "damsel in distress" is misogeny a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:08 AM
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(mostly) men dimishing on-male abuse, (mostly men) harbouring "damsel in distress" trope - are examples of toxic masculinity / sexism. "damsel in distress" is one of the better examples of "benevolent mysogeny". in your post you are mostly attributing the "sexist" attitudes to society - but those attitudes are largely held and perpetrated (in modern society) by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:05 AM
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That’s ironic
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 11:02 PM
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whatever gets you through the day
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 07:30 PM
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At least it’s clear which large general group you blame
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 06:46 PM
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"Noticing patterns" - lol whatever you want to tell yourself. You're making vastly oversimplified generalizations to explain hugely complex situations, and then patting yourself on your back for your wisdom. Whatever makes you feel better bud.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 06:56 AM
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You have an absurdly simplistic view of the world. A cult-like mentality.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 09:51 PM
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you still can't walk down the street without tripping over several good men, who are more than willing to create a stable home, model true love and devotion, to be a full and dedicated parent to a child that is not his all in exchange for a woman that will be kind, loyal and appreciative. lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/20 05:11 PM
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i think your list of "non essential jobs that women have" is telling/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:37 PM
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he wants to be introduced to your female friends red flag why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:14 PM
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OMG what a disaster a girl wants to be my friend !!! Srsly though, I think sadly a lot of men don't see any reason why they would want women around them, other than for fucking/domestic reasons (most likely those with either backgrounds where women were not valued, or backgrounds where there was very little female presence eg all siblings brothers) - so what's the point of friendship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:31 AM
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eye tracking studies have found when a woman first sees an unknown man. they first look at their feet / shoes, then their groins. this is unconscious reaction. much of what you talk about is attitudes / reactions to societal pressures
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:51 PM
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if societies convention was that the husband took the surname of the bride would you happily go along with it?
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 05:37 PM
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why is not taking his name worthy of losing your respect for god's sake?
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 05:07 PM
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OP is short, I guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:28 AM
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Is "Homosexual men should not teach children because they are predatory and a danger to children" hate speech / incitement to violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:18 PM
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current social climate i am not refering to the current social climate (aka white male moral panic) and i said that perhaps the rebalancing has overcompensated. Good reading skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:16 PM
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white women qualify as an oppressed group historically was the point i was making also ... the roles (arguably) evolved due to biological differences are the systemic oppression. just because something naturally evolved that way doesn't mean it is unbalanced / unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:15 PM
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it’s an even playing field so I don’t think any group should be given a hall pass for hate. Including white men. But white men should be judged by the same “hate-litmus test” as women, minorities, etc. in general i agree. i consider the current climate very US-centric (which by default is internet-centric) .... and basically what is happening at-the-moment is a rebalancing that has slightly (let's not be hysterical) over-compensated. the over-compensating is caused by the momentum and force gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 05:40 PM
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the thing about enciting violence that many miss, is that the declaration of X as a threat is enciting violence (there is no need for actual 'call for violence')
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 05:31 PM
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the more reasonable argument is that historically being a woman / minority group / whatever else .... has been viewed by "mainstream society" as lesser. therefore organising the display of 'pride' is a good thing. Being white/male/cis has never been viewed as "lesser" and is a position of "privilege" (let's not go down that rabbit hole) .... and by coincidence many hetero-pride / white-pride / male-pride events seem to be almost wholly populated by (fairly undesirable) reactionaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 05:26 PM
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But why are these types of dudes always the best in bed? The worse they are, the better the sex xD because they are fucking themselves. sex is a performance to be admired (like porn), and the satisfaction level of the woman's experiences is not for the benefit of the woman - but for the benefit of his ego. All of the above is VERY important to them, so they make sure they are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 05:26 PM
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>Are TRPillers gaslighting us? they're just cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 03:08 PM
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i never upvote posts -- but i up voted this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 12:52 AM
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sex/love love/sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:31 PM
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very, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:28 PM
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> they have in mind the sort of guy that RP men themselves consider top dogs, not necessarily who a young woman in her early 20s would. bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:24 PM
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society places more importance on woman's good looks than men's
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 06:06 PM
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i agree and it is an interesting perspective. i think women are naturally "emotionally literate" and can handle their emotions well whereas men are not and they are very destabilised by them i think their is a strong biological / hormonal reason behind this ... rather than the "Women are more encouraged to feel their emotions, men are told to stuff it down and man up" - also men tend to display emotion through anger (which is, in fact, a legitimate display of emotion) & destructive behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:51 PM
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you're not likely to experience it first hand if you maintain those attitudes. if someone else thinks "most people seem inherently selfish, vain and superficial, some are even cruel." they include you in that ... yet you don't identify that way. the problem is that it is impossible for men (or women) to enter a relationship that is fulfilling without being vulnerable. The weakness of not being able to live vulnerably is what holds you back. You are not alone, and it is something i struggle with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:03 PM
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deep depression is not a funk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:47 PM
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