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| 1 | Due to reading on pills, any other guys/girls out there that have just lost interest in romance?I'm pretty much asexual and didn't have any real interest to lose, but this stuff has shifted my attitude towards my asexuality from feeling sad about missing out on missing out that so many people find so meaningful to thinking, "OH THANK GOD." I feel extremely grateful for whatever abnormality in my physiology spared me from having to deal with any of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/19 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Broke up with my fiancé because she insisted our children would be circumcised.I'm sure it must hurt like hell, but good for you for standing up for your principles and for the rights of boys! | /r/MensRights | 27/07/18 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Woman uses machete to rape man. Not charged with rape.I downvoted because "it's not her winning, it's the child is 1. obvious nonsense if you understand very basic facts about how money works and 2. has never, in my fairly considerable experience, been said by anyone except by the sort of people who think forcing a male rape victim to pay is actually morally right. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 04:06 AM |
| 5 | Woman uses machete to rape man. Not charged with rape.Why are people down voting you? MRAs tend to feel very strongly that rape victims shouldn't be forced to pay money to their rapist. We're weird that way. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Woman uses machete to rape man. Not charged with rape.Because it's not her winning, it's the child. Say it with me: Money is fungible. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Abusive mothers are actually more common than abusive dads - gets a bit of media attention finallyI'm so sorry that happened to you. Thank you for sharing it. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Abusive mothers are actually more common than abusive dads - gets a bit of media attention finallyI'm so sorry, that's horrible :( | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Raped by recent ex GFI'm so sorry. I hope you're doing OK. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Raped by recent ex GFI'm so sorry man :( | /r/MensRights | 27/06/18 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...You're also confusing actual feminism with "college freshman women's studies major" feminism. The latter is often extreme but actual feminism is about equality. This supposedly decent silent majority of feminists who don't despise men and constantly attack efforts to improve men's wellbeing seem quite content to let the feminists who ARE that way be the feminists who dominate feminist discourse, represent the movement, and actually influence legislation. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...Is it a zero sum game? To some extent, yes. Research funding, awareness campaigns, etc. are not infinite resources. Society needs to get over homophobic feelings of having a doctor check its butt. And you actually managed to make it through most of your post without saying something derogatory about men until this. A shame. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...How many people likely to see that poster know that breast cancer is a terrible disease that kills lots of women? Pretty much all of them. How many people know the precise yearly number of breast cancer deaths? Far fewer. Comparing prostate cancer to another disease people are already greatly concerned about does far more to convey the seriousness of prostate cancer to the average reader than just saying "X men die every year" in isolation. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...How many people likely to see that poster know that breast cancer is a terrible disease that kills lots of women? Pretty much all of them. How many people know the precise yearly number of breast cancer deaths? Far fewer. Comparing prostate cancer to another disease people are already greatly concerned about does far more to convey the seriousness of prostate cancer to the average reader than just saying "X men die every year" in isolation. And frankly, I'd be more sympathetic to these sorts of … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...How many people likely to see that poster know that breast cancer is a terrible disease that kills lots of women? Pretty much all of them. How many people know the precise yearly number of breast cancer deaths? Far fewer. Comparing prostate cancer to another disease people are already greatly concerned about does far more to convey the seriousness of prostate cancer to the average reader than just saying "X men die every year" in isolation. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...That's certainly the attitude of FEMINISTS, but there are many women who genuinely care and try to help. They don't deserve to be generalized like that. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...How many people likely to see that poster know that breast cancer is a terrible disease that kills lots of women? Pretty much all of them. How many people know the precise yearly number of breast cancer deaths? Far fewer. Comparing prostate cancer to another disease people are already greatly concerned about does far more to convey the seriousness of prostate cancer to the average reader than just saying "X men die every year" in isolation. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...It's not like whoever wrote this is an elected representative for all feminists. This represents the opinion of one person right? Not when it's a single example of a much larger ongoing phenomenon that many of us have observed. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...Know what crying about downvotes gets you? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Because feminists never "guilt" men. The hypocrisy...How many people know that breast cancer is a terrible disease kills lots of women? Pretty much everybody. How many people know the precise yearly number of deaths? Far fewer. Comparing prostate cancer to another disease people are already greatly concerned about does far more to convey the seriousness of prostate cancer to the average reader than just saying "X men die every year." | /r/MensRights | 08/12/17 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Is Encouraging Men to Be Emotional a Trap?"Trap" implies a level of conscious intent I don't think is usually there. I think it's more that women who say they want men to be more emotionally open usually don't realize what they're actually asking for, because - consciously or not- they don't really see men as having the full range and depth of human emotion that women have. They're expecting a fantasy theme park version of men's emotional vulnerability and recoil in horror when they get the real thing, like going to the movies to see Ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 08:12 PM |
| 14 | Male Rape Survivor Calls Rape Crisis Hotline For Help And Gets A Beyond Disturbing ReplyI'm so sorry. I'm glad you're still with us. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/17 07:36 AM |
| 1 | On the friend zone, nice guys, and both almost always being a dude.Thank you! | /r/MensRights | 22/04/17 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you really believe we feminists hate men?I don't think feminists typically hate men as a whole. I think they are indifferent to men, in the way I'm indifferent to bugs. I don't actively wish bugs ill or take pleasure in their destruction, and in an abstract sort of way I'm aware that they serve a useful purpose in the ecology, but I certainly don't hesitate to swat them or step on them if it's convenient to do so, and if someone started telling me I should care about their rights or happiness I'd think they were being quite silly. They… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/17 06:01 AM |
| 2 | This double standard infuriates meI can respect this stance, provided you're equally disdainful of those who would tell circumcised women that they're "victims" or "mutilated" when many of them insist otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/17 04:53 AM |
| 1 | This double standard infuriates mewtf is wrong with you. I swear the people going against circumcision are all uncircumcised people. I was circumcised as a baby and I think it's a reprehensible practice that should be outlawed. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/17 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Teacher who manipulated a 15 year old boy with Aspergers into a two year "affair" before discarding him "like a piece of trash" sentenced to 10 years in prisonGood to see this sort of disgusting predator's exploitation of a boy actually being taken seriously for once. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/16 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian Couple Beats 5-Year-Old Son with a Hammer, Duct-Tape His Eyes Shut, and Kick Him Til He Bleeds, for GoFundMe ScamOur society often views violence, child abuse, etc. as specifically male evils, while idealizing women as inherently kind, peaceful, etc. This myth has serious consequences for men and boys in many areas and needs to be torn down. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/16 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian Couple Beats 5-Year-Old Son with a Hammer, Duct-Tape His Eyes Shut, and Kick Him Til He Bleeds, for GoFundMe ScamOur society often views violence, child abuse, etc. as specifically male evils, while idealizing women as inherently kind, peaceful, etc. This myth has serious consequences for men and boys in many areas and needs to be torn down. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/16 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian Couple Beats 5-Year-Old Son with a Hammer, Duct-Tape His Eyes Shut, and Kick Him Til He Bleeds, for GoFundMe ScamOur society often views violence, child abuse, etc. as specifically male evils, while idealizing women as inherently kind, peaceful, etc. This myth has serious consequences for men and boys in many areas and needs to be torn down. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/16 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Pre-nup survives wife's challenge, female journalist reports it as "man stiffs wife out of alimony and wins right to throw her out" --> Are you telling us that a contract isn't a contract when a woman signs it?Claiming that these men are only interested in sex is cruel and degrading. Feminists almost always always talk low-status men in the most dehumanizing terms possible. Acknowledging that the friend zone isn't just about sex would require acknowledging that men actually have feelings. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/16 08:56 AM |
| 5 | How do you feel about the trend of women marrying themselves?That isn't only an RP theory. Its well-accepted by the wedding industry. Weddings are for the bride, and basically a giant Princessing fantasy come to life. Isn't she so beautiful, so special, so valuable, so innately precious? etc... I once knew a Catholic priest who would sardonically refer to weddings as "the sacrament of bridal coronation." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/15 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Bookmark this article. This is the most well-worded, end-all-be-all answer to the concept of "male privilege" you will ever read.This is absolutely fantastic. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/15 04:51 AM |
| 5 | Men who have been raped still have more privilege than womenI'll give Ms. Polick-Kirkpatrick credit for being unusually honest, I suppose. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/14 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Peyton James commits suicide after years of verbal and physical abuse from his classmatesGoddamn it. Poor kid. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/14 01:11 AM |
| 1 | My abuser was my motherI'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/14 12:40 AM |
| 3 | Men talking about and raising awareness of male victims of DV is "playing the victim card"What a disgusting woman. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/14 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Spoke with radfem, mentioned the 3:1 suicide ratio of men to women. Her response? "I don't F*cking care, men are idiots."In that case, have you considered reading a different post? Subreddits can have more than one. I've read it a hundred times too; that's why I skimmed most of it and went to see if it had sparked any interesting discussions in the comments. But it may well be some newcomer's first time reading about it. It may provide some support to someone who's experienced something similar, and feels alone. It could easily be OPs first time discussing it, especially with a large group of people who are actual… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/14 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Spoke with radfem, mentioned the 3:1 suicide ratio of men to women. Her response? "I don't F*cking care, men are idiots."God forbid a man would want to share a personal experience with misandry in a subreddit about men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/14 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Spoke with radfem, mentioned the 3:1 suicide ratio of men to women. Her response? "I don't F*cking care, men are idiots."The male suicide figures are misleading, although still suggest an issue. What issue? That women are somehow so stupid and inept that they earnestly try to kill themselves several times more often than men and yet actually die only a fourth as frequently? Go derail somewhere else. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/14 04:04 AM |
| 3 | New SPLC Intelligence Report on the 'Manosphere' - "Men’s rights activists did not tell Rodger to kill — but in their writings, it seems like many of them wouldn’t mind doing some killing of their ownActually, the Clinton era was when the SPLC started doing a lot of partisan hack hysteria-mongering about how people critical of the federal government were scary racist extremists who every right-thinking American should fear and abhor. Of course, to know that, you'd have to actually know something about the SPLC beyond "They say MRAs are a hate group"- which you clearly don't, or you wouldn't be spouting this ignorant bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/14 05:44 AM |
| 3 | New SPLC Intelligence Report on the 'Manosphere' - "Men’s rights activists did not tell Rodger to kill — but in their writings, it seems like many of them wouldn’t mind doing some killing of their ownSo basically they stopped being reputable when they labeled the MRM a group of hate sites, then? Your presidential chronology is a bit off. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/14 11:39 PM |
| 1 | This sub is overlooking serious issues relating to men's rights in favour of bitching.Yes, that's why there's never anything here about GirlWritesWhat, or Erin Pizzey, or Women Against Feminism, right? Come up with some better lies. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/14 02:17 AM |
| 3 | This sub is overlooking serious issues relating to men's rights in favour of bitching.It's almost as if changes in policy are related to public opinion. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/14 02:05 AM |
| 3 | This sub is overlooking serious issues relating to men's rights in favour of bitching.Why don't you think false accusations constitute an "actual issue?" | /r/MensRights | 04/09/14 02:01 AM |
| 2 | X-post from /r/gaming. The last hold out of the big gaming websites, IGN succumbs to the SJW circlejerk "HUNDREDS OF DEVELOPERS ARE FED UP WITH THE HATE"The whole thing stems from an act of harassment by her ex boyfriend, taking to the internet to make all of these accusations about her and share private conversations that they had with the world. It's harassment if the boyfriend is lying. It's not "harassment" for a victim of extended relationship abuse to publicly speak about how they were treated. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/14 01:24 AM |
| 5 | Meredith Powell math teacher sentenced (only) 6 months after raping two students behind closed school doorsWell, I suppose it's better than the sentence of "moderately stern warning not to do it again" that a lot of these dirtbags get. Slightly. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/14 02:35 AM |
| 2 | Feminist claims we should be calling out Fox News for misandry... and she's right!I left this comment: "And what else do we learn about men from Fox News? Apparently, teen boys can’t be raped and love sexual harassment. The lack of media attention given to male victims of sexual violence is supposed to be a major concern of the men’s rights movement and this kind of ignorance actively harms male survivors, but Tucker Carlson doesn’t seem to be a target of their ire." This is a lie. From A Voice for men, posted May 7th, see: http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/tucker-carlson-… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/14 06:00 AM |
| 5 | If TwoXChromosomes is a default subreddit, why isn't MensRights?I think they generally choose subreddits with broad, general appeal as defaults, whereas /r/MensRights is about advocating a particular cause and ideals. It makes sense to me that they wouldn't want such an ideologically charged subreddit as a default. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/14 12:39 AM |
| 2 | A shift in dismissive attitudes towards the MHRM?I definitely agree that there's been a shift from Response 1 to Response 2/3. I don't really think that 2 and 3 are actually distinct positions, however. Every single time I've seen someone give Response 3 talk about what would be an acceptable men's movement, it turns out that by "men's movement" they mean a satellite of feminism. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/14 02:36 AM |
| 4 | Serious AskReddit post on front page right now asking men raped by women how it happenedI have tremendous admiration for all of the men who posted their stories. If something like that happened to me, no way I could ever tell anyone, even under a throwaway pseudonym. I'd take that to my grave. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/14 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Jessica Valenti jumps on the date rape nail polish: "Teach men not to rape! Don't tell women to use science!"Why is it easier to invent anti-rape nail polish than find a way to stop rapists? Who would have thought that making a chemical that changes color would turn out to be easier than abolishing an evil that has existed in every society since time immemorial? | /r/MensRights | 27/08/14 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else being met with utter shock for having uncompromising morals?Empathizing with imperfect people is a greater moral feat than retreating into the comforts of sanctimony and false moral superiority. The moral superiority of a non-cheater over a cheater is not "false," all else equal. People are complex and imperfect. Grouping everyone into a black and white dichotomy of Moral/Immoral is naive and vaguely . . . immoral. Virtually everyone has some sort of line, beyond which they'll consider a person too odious to associate with. Perhaps the OP has drawn that … | /r/MensRights | 23/08/14 11:35 PM |
| 3 | A Voice for Men has a new mission statement (and I think it's a good one)“Infanticide” shall be considered murder, the killing of a human being, no different based the sex of the perpetrator. Is this an issue under US law? Not in the US, at present, but in some other nations-including Canada, I believe, where a lot of MRAs are from- women who kill their own children before a certain age and would otherwise be charged with homicide can be charged infanticide, a less severe crime, instead. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/14 12:16 AM |
| 5 | The safe spaces of nerdy men, feminist migration, and alienation(feminists tend to see actual female nerds as "not female-identified" or "honorary men" and hence the enemy). There's even a fairly popular feminist slur for women who prefer the (platonic) company of men and/or actually enjoy predominantly male subcultures, "chill girl." | /r/MensRights | 21/08/14 11:59 PM |
| 4 | The intellectual dishonesty of r/srsgaming - Feminists have "legitimate criticism by qualified individuals", MRAs are just "grumpy manbabies who attack and doxx"ragetears of grumpy manbabies Keep fighting those gender roles, feminists! | /r/MensRights | 20/08/14 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Victim who nearly lost eye in vicious glass attack claims attacker spared jail ‘because she’s a woman’You're dodging the question, though your evasiveness answers it well enough anyway. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/14 03:08 AM |
| 1 | 35 practical steps men can take to support feminismWhen a woman tells you something is sexist, believe her. OK, sure. Allison Tieman says feminism is sexist. I believe her. Do I get my pat on the head now? | /r/MensRights | 19/08/14 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Victim who nearly lost eye in vicious glass attack claims attacker spared jail ‘because she’s a woman’You're OK with drastically milder treatment of male rapists and child molesters, then? Because that's the sort of thing that treating men and women equally without treating women more harshly would entail. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/14 11:34 PM |
| 1 | If one of feminists' goals is to get rid of the expected gender roles and one of MRM's complaints is that men are expected to suck it up, wouldn't that mean that we would benefit from feminism?If. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/14 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Misandry: Feminists Pretend to Hate Men and It’s Not FunnyPretending? As I've said before, feminists tend to quite vocally reject the idea that sexist jokes are harmless fun that say nothing about the speaker's real attitudes. They're just about the last group that has any business falling back on "It's just a joke!" | /r/MensRights | 17/08/14 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Feminist: If MRAs stop saying we hate men, we'll stop proving them rightCertainly. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/14 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Feminist: If MRAs stop saying we hate men, we'll stop proving them rightThis is classic wifebeater logic. "Why do you make me hit you?" Feminists will agree to quit it with the misandry jokes if anti-feminists cease making scurrilous accusations that feminists are motivated by man hatred. If anti-feminists are making scurrilous accusations about feminists, the non-sexist response would be to attack anti-feminists. Instead, they direct their ridicule and their "satirical" professions of hatred at an entire sex. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/14 04:37 AM |
| 1 | PZ Myers on Robin Williams by Richard Dawkins (just read it)I’m sorry to report that comedian Robin Williams has committed suicide, an event of great import and grief to his family. But his sacrifice has been a great boon to the the news cycle and the electoral machinery — thank God that we have a tragedy involving a wealthy white man to drag us away from the depressing news about brown people. ROBIN WILLIAMS' SUICIDE WAS AN INSIDE JOB! 811TRUTH.ORG Seriously, though, what a shitstain. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/14 11:44 PM |
| 6 | Come on, guys, it's totally ironicalIf feminists want to argue that humor that disparages one sex or relies on sexist assumptions or makes light of terrible real-world suffering is never appropriate, fine- I can respect that position. I am however, going to take them at their word when they say that's what they believe. Which means that feminists who hold standard feminist views on that subject and still make sexist "jokes" about misandry and "male tears" and so forth intend the meaning and effects they themselves claim jokes like… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/14 01:08 AM |
| 4 | 12 men circumcised by force by medical personnel — women approve, and say the victims are now clean and will perform better in bed."It's OK for consenting adults" is not a very compelling justification for doing something to a child. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/14 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Am I being oversensitive here?I understand the amount of male rapes that go unreported is probably very high, but I don't know any men that have been raped, where as I know a lot of women that have. If men are especially unlikely to tell, how can you be so sure you don't know any men who've been raped? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/14 11:51 PM |
| 4 | Convince a skeptic: at its best the MR movement is just espousing feminist ideals that argue against patriarchy.And there has been little visible effort by the movement to effect social change[3] (i.e. no funding of shelters for abused men, no movement to impose stricter gun control and safety, no suicide support lines for men etc.) Why don't you ask Erin Pizzey what happened when she tried to support shelters for abused men? | /r/MensRights | 04/08/14 11:35 PM |
| 4 | Women of the Men's Rights MovementPerhaps a better explanation is simply this?: we value women's feelings a lot higher than we value men's. We expect men to take such abuse, and we feel that they cut a ridiculous figure when they say that such terms upset them. We expect them, in short, to 'man up' in the face of hostility. If a woman is upset, however, we tend to take that more seriously. This is pretty much what I've concluded. "Cunt" is shocking and offensive because it's targeted at people who've usually been socialized to f… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/14 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Rape Jokes. Where's the line? Amazing Atheist responds.Plenty of people certainly will say, in many cases, that a murder victim had it coming, or brought it upon themselves, or that their life wasn't worth much anyway. I don't think the difference is nearly as big as you suggest. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/14 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Honey Badger Radio: Shit Feminists SayKaili Joy Gray is decidedly not of the "rape is never funny" school of feminism, it seems. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/14 04:42 AM |
| 5 | Fox Host's Message To Male Victims Of Domestic Violence: "That Is Embarrassing, Getting Beaten Up By Your Girlfriend"I don't see replacing this guy with with someone sneering "Oh, teh poor menz!" as any sort of improvement. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/14 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Meet The Ladies Men’s Rights Auxiliary! -Wonkette- ["I don’t like to crowd my lady brain space with man things because I’m a lady, goddamnit, I’d much rather let men keep track of that stuff so I can focus on SHOOOOES.]Wonkette is where Huffington Post commenters go when they need reassurance that they aren't quite the dumbest motherfuckers on the Internet. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/14 12:15 AM |
| 3 | No means no, Feminists.Feminism, much like any other belief system, includes many demographics of people with many different worldviews. Sure, but most of that diversity is in areas unrelated or only tangentially related to what MRAs criticize them for. I've often seen feminists argue with each other quite ferociously about pornography, (female) sex workers, trans women, racial issues, or whether this or that lifestyle choice or type of personal relationship is compatible with feminism. Misandry, on the other hand, ca… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/14 12:54 AM |
| 4 | No means no, Feminists.Quite possibly. And some religious conservatives say it's people who condemn hatred of homosexuals who are the real bigots. That doesn't tell us anything especially interesting. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/14 12:33 AM |
| 3 | No means no, Feminists.No, feminism is not synonymous with gender equality. However, most people believe that second part to be true, as they have been culturally indoctrinated to since feminism became mainstream. If the average person thinks a particular group is synonymous with gender equality, when that group is actually quite sexist in many ways, any genuine movement for equality will have to dispel that misconception in order to succeed. As long as the feminist movement is seen as synonymous with "equality," it w… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/14 12:06 AM |
| 2 | No means no, Feminists.They aren't mutually exclusive, you're right, but as an avid reader of this sub, I'm pretty tired of posts that are "a feminist said something dumb" and "a woman did something bad and was not punished" Those aren't men's rights issues. If the legal system treating men more harshly than women and frequently looking the other way where female-on-male crime is concerned is not a men's rights issue, what is? | /r/MensRights | 26/07/14 11:48 PM |
| 5 | Even when men are victims, it's because of patriarchyThe point of 'teach men not to rape' is not 'men are stupid durr durr teach them rape is bad' it's 'teach the difference between consensual sex and rape and make sure everyone understands what rape is and why it is bad'. The point is very explicitly not to teach "everyone" what rape is and why it's bad. If feminists were interested in teaching everyone, they'd say "everyone." | /r/MensRights | 26/07/14 08:55 AM |
| 4 | Even when men are victims, it's because of patriarchyCould the feminists who've endorsed this sit down and have some sort of talk with the feminists who've said after time after time that the Patriarchy glorifies men and traits regarded as male, while disparaging women and traits regarded as female? Figuring out whether the enemy your movement against sexism is supposedly fighting loves men or hates men is probably one of those things you should do sooner rather than later. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/14 12:53 AM |
| 6 | Why The Men’s Rights Movement Is Garbage: Men can't be ever be oppressed, misandry literally don't real and MRA's are violent and abusive towards Feminists because they pointed out Feminist vandalism of propertyIntervening when one sees an instance of abuse is just being a decent person. It's not about gender roles. They're not encouraging men to intervene when they see another male being harmed. They're not encouraging women to intervene at all. How on Earth is that "not about gender roles?" If it's "just being a decent person," they apparently believe that men don't deserve decency, and women aren't capable of decency. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/14 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What would Feminists need to do in order to get you on their side?Throw out most of the fundamental underpinnings of the entire mainline feminist worldview and most members of their existing movement. For starters. Though I still wouldn't apply the term to myself. If we're limiting ourselves to the realm of the plausible or semi-plausible, there's nothing they can do. It's too late. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/14 04:05 AM |
| 7 | BBC News - FGM summit: New measures announced by David Cameron - Parents face prosecution if their daughters are cut - No punishment if their sons are. Such Patriarchy! Much Male Privilege. Wow!I actually do agree that it would have been better to outlaw circumcision as well, but FGM seems more urgent. The article says that "up to 170,000" females in Wales and England are circumcised. The number of males is a hell of a lot higher. How many boys need to be cut to be worth one girl? | /r/MensRights | 22/07/14 04:13 AM |
| 5 | Erm, are we in on some kind of paedophilia conspiracy with The Amazing Atheist? Because I'm not down with that. [I love reading Free Thought Blog comments about MRM]God, the way the commentor who first pointed out that maybe they should be concerned about the total lack of proof that the quote is real and shamed the rest of the commentors into engaging in some actual skepticism finally twists the knife by outing himself as an MRA... fucking beautiful. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/14 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Feminists send death threats to 13 year old because he thinks rape jokes should be allowed [x-post from /r/TumblrInAction]We object to the fact that violent or insulting jokes about men are widely acceptable when comparable jokes about women would be considered offensive. Your own examples demonstrate the difference you're ignoring- jokes about rape vs. common, perfectly mainstream jokes about males (and only males) being hit in genitals, males (and only males) always being stupid and useless. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/14 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Feminists send death threats to 13 year old because he thinks rape jokes should be allowed [x-post from /r/TumblrInAction]What did he/everyone expect? Nice civil responses to the kid? I give mean, uncivil responses all the time, and yet somehow I've managed to restrain myself from threatening to go after anybody with a knife. If he is old enough to say and understand such things, he is old enough to deal with it, as he seems to be doing just fine. "For every action, every force, the same action/force happens in the opposite direction. " You are equally OK with the threats the woman claims to be getting, I trust? | /r/MensRights | 21/07/14 11:14 PM |
| 3 | Prominent Title IX complainant who says her college ignored her sexual assault supports the lawsuit of a male ex-classmate who claims the school denied him due process when it expelled him for sexual assaultThis makes perfect sense to me. It's like how, among women campaigning against female circumcision, those who are victims of the practice themselves pretty much always take the issue of male circumcision much more seriously than women who haven't been cut. She got involved in this whole issue because she wanted justice, not to make some ideological point about how men are awful and need to be slapped down. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/14 07:34 PM |
| 3 | 'Women against feminism' and the gender studies students that think they're misinformed.Greinke says he was “exasperated” upon learning about “Women Against Feminism” and says the movement showcases the common misconceptions of feminism. He says although “Women Against Feminism” may be prompted by negative experiences with “overzealous feminists” or “traditional ideological commitments,” the movement does not acknowledge the systemic nature of obstacles faced by women. “The perceptions that these women have about feminism is [sic] grossly misinformed. ‘Women Against Feminism’ paint… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/14 12:21 AM |
| 15 | A discussion on THAT Hilary Clinton quote on how women are they primary victims of war.Civilian victims of war tend to be mostly male, too. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/14 12:11 AM |
| 25 | [X-Post from /r/Feminism] "The average prison sentence for men that kill their female partners is 2-6 years. The average sentence for women that kill their male partners is 15 years." Your thoughts?Men who murder their wives often do so in "heat of the moment" situations, whereas when women kill their husbands it's much more likely to be premeditated murder. Killing under the latter sort of circumstances is treated more harshly. This particular factoid tries to hide this by throwing them together, when the relevant comparison would be comparing male and female sentences for manslaughter, first-degree murder, and so on. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/14 08:50 AM |
| 10 | You heard it here first folks. Max Temkin denying the rape allegations against him is just proof that he's a rapist in denial.Her "reasoning" appears to be: Some people, somewhere, have committed rape out of ignorance of what rape is. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Max Temkin has committed rape out of ignorance of what rape is. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/14 12:46 AM |
| 7 | I Saw a Man Get Arrested For a Sex Crime Because He Made a Scheduling ErrorKeep your homosexual/pedophilia out of men's rights, Boys touching girls is homosexuality now? | /r/MensRights | 18/07/14 02:16 AM |
| 3 | Feminists at Daily Dot believe Conor Oberst is just as guilty as his false rape accuser.In a world where New York magazine can publish an unapologetically positive cover story on Terry Richardson, and Todd Akin can make claims about "legitimate rape," propping up Faircloth (née Joan Elizabeth Harris) as a scapegoat is a dangerous act. Leaving aside the idiocy of applying the term "scapegoat" to a person being condemned for something they're actually guilty of, Todd Akin's political career was destroyed by his claims about "legitimate rape." He is now a national laughingstock who re… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 09:17 AM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Where does the Mens Rights Movement (or you) stand on discrimination against male homosexuals/ men who embody traits generally percieved as feminine?I consider defending the rights of men who deviate from the traditional male gender role- gay men being an example- to be among our most important issues. This has been one of the few places I haven't felt like I needed to hide who I am. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/14 11:58 PM |
| 2 | I propose a cleanup of MensRights ideals. Thanks to /u/sillymod for defending us today in /r/changemyviewBe inclusive to men's rights other than just the common complaints of straight, white and privileged males. Most of the core men's rights issues- stereotypes of men as dangerous predators, the male/female sentencing gap, callousness towards male suffering and victims of violence, wrongful criminal accusations, etc.- are bigger problems for men who aren't straight, white, and/or privileged. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/14 11:46 PM |
| 1 | I am compiling resources on male/MR issues. r/MensRights, give me links of your best articles and studies. All. Of. Them.Adam Jones has written some essential stuff about male disposability and the invisability of male victims of violence. In particular, check out: Effacing the Male: Gender, Misrepresentation, and Exclusion in the Kosovo War Gendercide Watch also has a great deal of information on many examples of large-scale violence against men and boys. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/14 10:48 PM |
| 3 | Comedian Chris Gethard Takes On Men's Rights ActivistsKnow that if you really are someone who feels scorned by women, participating in the movement of villainizing women will only lead to a vagina-free life that you really deserve. So I should assume that any woman who claims to have had a misogynistic boyfriend or husband is probably lying, then. Odd message for so many feminists to endorse, but who am I, a mere male, to argue? | /r/MensRights | 13/07/14 02:02 AM |
| 1 | "The idea that the woman may be equally to blame, even if she is also violent and even the initiator of the violence, is simply not acceptable."But turn B into a 4 year old child. No. If a four-year old child is in any way analogous to an adult woman in a discussion of who is to blame for a violent situation, we need to work on doing away with irresponsible practices like letting women vote or make financial decisions or leave the house unchaperoned. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/14 10:58 PM |
| 3 | "The idea that the woman may be equally to blame, even if she is also violent and even the initiator of the violence, is simply not acceptable."K even taking everything you just said as truth, us men still hold most positions of government, most senior positions in corporations and companies, and in general still run the show. The great majority of "us men" hold no such positions and never will. I'm sure its terribly unfair that already-elite women might have more trouble rising from the top 0.0001% of society to the top 0.00001% than their male counterparts, but for the vast majority of men (and women) it makes very little difference. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/14 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Anti-body autonomy "feminist" defends child genital surgeryThis is something that I quite truly fathom. How is it a competition? How does promoting MGM help with the fight against FGM? It actually does make sense, if your goal is to maximize protection of females and you consider male well-being completely irrelevant. Part of the intense, widespread horror FGM inspires comes from the belief that violence against females is especially heinous, compared to violence against males, simply by virtue of who the victims are. Serious opposition to MGM implies t… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/14 10:59 PM |
| 7 | "Sentiment Analsis" ranks this as one of the most negative subreddits. I don't think that's wrong, a lot of time is spent just being angry about things.They have more to be upbeat about. They're also a lot less tolerant of posts critical of the subreddit's dominant beliefs, which greatly reduces internal argument and hostility. | /r/MensRights | 10/07/14 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Stefan Molyneux caught trying to write a fake comment posing as a woman.He wasn't trying to write a fake comment. It's an earlier viewer comment that he reposted on Google+ with a link back to the video, which caused it appear there. (Comments made to the video itself don't have "via Google+"next to the name like that.) You can find the original, by a woman named Lajune McMillian, if you scroll down for a while. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/14 10:45 PM |
| 2 | At work, a new girl punched me hard in the arm with a closed fist repeatedly for making fun of her.As a feminist: Her response was a bit much, but his actions were shitty too. Victim-blaming seems to be a recurring theme with you. Go into any feminists space where a woman is talking about how she was repeatedly struck by a male after making a thoughtless remark and say, "Well, he overreacted a little, but she shouldn't have mouth off like that!" Then talk about how she was "provoking the incident." Also, I guaran-damn-tee you if the genders were reversed (MR's favorite test) you guys would be… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/14 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Are Men "sexist and entitled" for dominating conversations?I’m a loudmouth, and it’s easy for me to dominate conversation. But you know what I’ve noticed? Far more men are this way than women. Why, aside from the author's standard-issue gynonormative presumptions, should males adapt themselves to the way females supposedly talk, and not vice versa? I'm an autistic man who often has to work very hard to try to make myself heard in conversations, and often either fail despite my best efforts or simply allow people to talk over me rather than assert myself… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/14 11:16 PM |
| 9 | 10 Ways Men Can Combat Sexist Entitlement in PublicAnother feminist man eagerly throwing other men- and, worse, boys- under the bus.to boost himself higher. Typical. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/14 10:42 PM |
| 3 | OUTRAGE: Study cites women's sexism as benevolent and men's sexism as hostileA study found entitled men were prone to exhibiting hostile sexism, and viewed women as manipulative and demanding, while entitled women exhibited benevolent sexism, indicating they think women deserve special care and treatment. The supposed distinction between hostile and benevolent sexism is merely a matter of framing. If women are manipulative and demanding, it would follow that it's reasonable for men to disregard women's demands and (supposed) needs, and act in the interest of themselves o… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/14 01:27 AM |
| 7 | 2yo boy tortured to death by female babsitter and mother, then dumped under house. Still no charges laid. [Australia]One problem faced by many male (and female) victims of rape, child abuse, and other evils is that women- especially mothers- are often viewed as inherently too moral and/or too weak to to commit heinous acts like this. We need to break down sexist attitudes like that, and one way is through examples like this. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/14 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Hopefully this will be the last comment I need to write in order to defend the MRM as I see it./u/HappyGerbil never said people who aren't hostile to men's rights can't be feminists. They just haven't mattered very much, in terms of how the feminist movement has affected the issue of domestic violence. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/14 10:21 PM |
| 10 | John Scalzi Seriously Thinks he's an Oppressor just for Thinking This??I don't believe for a minute that Scalzi actually feels any sort of guilt over this. He's just making himself look good by encouraging other males to feel bad about themselves. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/14 04:37 AM |
| 2 | Time reporter reports from Men's Rights Conference, empathizes with many of the issues they bring upIf you take away the 'but', all you have is 'yes'. If you take away the "but," a new "but" will take its place in short order. It's very easy to say "yes" when you can quickly follow it up with an excuse to not actually act on it. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/14 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Hi /r/mensrights. I'm drunk and I needed to get this off my chest. Forgive me if this is the wrong place, but I felt like you guys would be the only people from whom I'd receive any form of sympathy.I'm so sorry. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/14 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Hobby Lobby and the War on WomenWell, first of all, there's the problem that Viagra and Cialis are still payed by them. Erectile dysfunction is a medical problem. Having a working uterus is not. Paying for condoms would be the more relevant comparison. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/14 10:36 PM |
| 2 | "During prom season at my school, we're actually required to go to a mandatory anti-rape course, girls have to go to a self defense course."I'm fucking sick of seeing people look at the extreme 14 year tumblr girls shouting murder for dicks being the definition of a feminist Which he isn't doing. He's looking at mainstream feminist discourse about sexual violence. You are demonizing people trying to work with you to get equallity for you and them by looking at the psychotic extremists. People like Mary Koss, Amanda Marcotte, David Futrelle, Adele Mercier, Hugo Schwyzer, Catherine MacKinnon, or the staffs of blogs like Feministing an… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 10:44 PM |
| 2 | "During prom season at my school, we're actually required to go to a mandatory anti-rape course, girls have to go to a self defense course."You've excluded the most influential feminist researcher on rape in the history of the movement from the category of "serious feminist." Your definition needs some work. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Are you a MRA if you dont think (child) circumcision is MGM?The fact that the only people making a big deal about this are the ones who are uncircumcised just baffles me. I'm circumcised and consider the issue to be a big deal, and I'm far from the only one here. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 09:49 PM |
| 1 | "Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Reveals Past Battle With Depression: I Was Crying Constantly"Yeah, I watched the new Conan movie with some friends for our periodic "bad movie night" last year expecting utter garbage and ended up being sort of shocked at how much I genuinely enjoyed it. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 05:39 AM |
| 5 | "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -Hillary ClintonWhat's incredible to me is that a quote taken out of context about how women are victims of war (she said primary; that's odd. But at the very least they are still victims), "Primary " is the entire reason this quote draws so much ire here. It's not the minor side detail you're dishonestly presenting it as. Yet there is absolutely no discussion of the men who sent these soldiers to war. Because (leaving aside the idiotic assumption that women play no part in war) this is specifically a discussio… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 01:14 AM |
| 2 | "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -Hillary ClintonI'm sure that awareness of male rape victims will grow; the problem is this sub is all about radicalising men against women (are you really going to deny it? click 'top posts' and tell me how wrong I am) Highest entries when I click "Top," as of 7:27 PM Central Standard Time: This topic Looks like imgur is catching on a little (Comic strip about male gender roles) Victim Support Scotland gets it "Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Reveals Past Battle With Depression: I Was Crying Constantly" 186 Kurdish … | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 12:51 AM |
| 2 | "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -Hillary Clintonaccept that men endure all the suffering that civilians do I'll do no such thing. What you said may only apply to conscripts, not volunteer soldiers, and we could debate what is worse. It applies to male civilians- which do exist, believe it or not, despite the way you keep treating "men" as if it were interchangeable with "soldiers." (And "soldiers" with "post-1973 volunteer American soldiers.") | /r/MensRights | 29/06/14 11:58 PM |
| 1 | "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -Hillary ClintonAs opposed to maintaining that "death is worse than rape"? How would one know, exactly? Revealed preference. Most rape victims don't commit suicide. Most people faced with the choice of submitting to a rapist or dying don't choose to die. What if we compared it to the sentence "death is better than a life of continuous suffering"? Unless the person is physically restrained or disabled, someone facing a life of continuous suffering can choose death, or not, according to their own desires and valu… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/14 11:16 PM |
| 2 | "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat." -Hillary ClintonThe fact that you may think life is preferable to being dead is the point of view of a privileged 1st world country citizen who doesn't really understand the actual hardships beings on this planet go through. This would only make sense if the people of the Third World were committing suicide en masse. They're not. In fact, given how damned hard many of them have to work just to survive, the average Third Worlder has greater demonstrated preference for life over death than the average citizen of … | /r/MensRights | 29/06/14 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Trans* MRAsI don't really have anything to add, but thanks for sharing this. I'm glad you felt comfortable doing so here. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/14 10:15 PM |
| 6 | 21 Men Holding Signs Quoting Their RapistsFor God's sake, if you insist on saying nasty, stupid shit about trans people, could you at least take it to a discussion that isn't about a transgender rape victim? | /r/MensRights | 28/06/14 07:21 PM |
| 7 | HRW said militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) killed between 160 and 190 men between 6/11 and 6/14.They were killed because they were soldiers employed by a government ISIS has declared war on, not because they were male. If they were not male, they would not have been soldiers. Would you say the bombing of markets in Afghanistan and Pakistan is a women's rights issue? Women make up the majority of victims in those attacks Could you provide a source for this? but I would say that the Taliban don't care who gets killed as long as there are enough bodies. Whereas the killers in this case clearl… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/14 10:16 PM |
| 5 | Oxford updated their "rapist" definition to "...typically a man".Many types of people are typically men- miners, bricklayers, soldiers, scientists. Do dictionaries typically specify that in their definitions? Should they? | /r/MensRights | 27/06/14 08:18 PM |
| 2 | MRA's are banned from Posthuman Studio's forumThanks. I don't think I have the stomach to read the RPG.net thread. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/14 07:25 AM |
| 7 | My own experience with molestation from a woman.Thank you for sharing this. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/14 05:13 AM |
| 9 | MRA's are banned from Posthuman Studio's forumYeah, fuck me for thinking that forcing a man to penetrate a woman actually ought to be counted as rape, or that mutilating children of either sex is wrong, or that a man shouldn't be jailed for the crime of being beaten by his wife, or that the "real victims" when men and boys are slaughtered by the thousands or millions aren't the poor women who suffered the unbearable slight of not being considered combatants. Fuck me for thinking that my 13-year-old self should have had access to ways of dea… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/14 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Need help with a male feministJust ask, "The treatment of men who've been raped isn't an issue of men's rights? Really?" After that point, if he isn't seriously reconsidering his stance, there's no hope for him. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/14 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Feminists critics discussing hypocrisy, female senior editor who often polices men's speech and thoughts at "the good men project" explained why male feminists should sit down, shut up and listen whilProbably more accurate to say "We want your help in the feminist movement, we just don't want you." Men are welcome as things that can be useful to them, not as human beings. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/14 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Fear of women, given up finding a girlfriend.You've seriously undermined my confidence in what I had considered a very promising subreddit, enough to change my mind about seeking help there. Not that I matter particularly, but I doubt I'm the only one. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/14 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Pope Francis: “What I would like to add is that feminism, as a unique philosophy, does not do any favors to those that it claims to represent, for it puts women on the level of a vindictive battle, and a woman is much more than that,... it runs the risk of becoming chauvinism with skirts.”The rates of sexual abuse within the catholic church were in the past exactly the same as those in other faith communities. More than this, they were on a par with the abuse rates within any institution involving a power ratio between adult and young person, such as education, sports teams, and so on. If you're claiming to be the one true universal Church, led by God's vicegerent on Earth, some people are going to demand better than “no more prone to child-rape than average.” | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Pope Francis: “What I would like to add is that feminism, as a unique philosophy, does not do any favors to those that it claims to represent, for it puts women on the level of a vindictive battle, and a woman is much more than that,... it runs the risk of becoming chauvinism with skirts.”By your own definition of equality/egalitarianism, shouldn't MRA then be retitled/rebranded as GRA (gender rights activism)? Under your definition, wouldn't the title MRA be equally inappropriate? In the MRM, we don't claim that our movement is the be-all, end-all of gender equality movements for both sexes. Feminists typically do. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 11:02 PM |
| 3 | Obama today: "Women are smarter. This is true."The fact that feminists tend to get offended by jokes is very, very low on the list of problems I have with feminism. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 10:46 PM |
| 4 | Obama today: "Women are smarter. This is true."Ann Coulter claims men are smarter because they vote GOP. Must mean that it's open season on women, by your logic. If Barack Obama was a minor politicalfirebrand whose whole schtick was being extreme and offensive, and not the President of the United States, this might be a reasonable comparison. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 10:41 PM |
| 1 | "These men use guns to control women."Impressive, when anti-gun hysteria and anti-male hysteria work in tandem like that. I have been lucky enough not to know too many violent men in my life. That's fairly obvious, if a male version of those "Reasons a cat is better than a man" or "Reasons chocolate is better than sex" joke lists is enough to send her into such a tizzy. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 10:27 PM |
| 7 | " In the last 48 hours, at least 10 male callers have narrated their ordeal and have sought advice. However, their requests have been turned down."This is the same country (well, one of them) where feminists successfully fought against changing the definition of rape to be inclusive of male victims. It's to be expected. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/14 11:32 PM |
| 1 | In Defense of TRP: ‘The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics’ Linked on TRPGood, article, but I don't see how it's a defense of TRP. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/14 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Should we spend less time reacting to feminists, and more time targeting legislators?I don't think we have the numbers or influence to accomplish anything by trying to influence legislators, at this point. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/14 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Should we spend less time reacting to feminists, and more time targeting legislators?Repeatedly using "MRA" as if it were an acronym for the name of the movement makes it kind of obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Typically speaking you should include the full sentence to avoid misinterpretation of a sentence. In this case you make it seem as though I'm saying these things. Which you are, since you said that the things other people say about the MRM are deserved if we oppose feminism. Endorsing a statement implies agreement. Hell, you say it again at the end of th… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/14 01:07 AM |
| 28 | A guy over in /r/TIFU plays a very cruel prank on his wife by pretending he left the baby in the car. Apparently this justifies domestic violence since it's accepted as totally normal that she kickedI'm pretty much OK with this. If you intentionally do something that would drive even a reasonable, normally peaceful person into a batshit insane berserker rage- and I think tricking someone into believing you've killed their child qualifies- you have little business complaining when that normally peaceful person responds with batshit insane berserker rage. I'd be equally OK with a gender-reversed version of that scenario, though, whereas I suspect a lot of people who are fine with the scenario… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/14 01:13 AM |
| 4 | Creating a complete rebuttal of feminismHell, you even contradict yourself: First you say that feminism always sees men as aggressors and that a feminist framework doesn't leave room for men to be the victims - and then you say that feminists do in fact admit that patriarchy hurts men, too. First, actually taken in context, the OP is describing "patriarchy hurts men too" as a fallback position feminists retreat to when they're forced to abandon their preferred position, ignoring or actively denying male victimization, because nonfemin… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/14 12:34 AM |
| 4 | Iggy Azalea notes that she is most frequently groped by women while crowd surfing. Maybe we should stop teaching girls that sexual assault/rape are only committed by men and that they are exempt?You brought up feminism, not the OP, so why don't you tell us? | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Obama finally working on a program specifically to help young minority(black) boys --- People ignoring all the exclusive women and girls programs cry afoul.I think you're falling prey to the Apex Fallacy with a lot of these examples. Yes, a few black political power brokers like Jesse Jackson have done quite well for themselves because of racial politics, and there is political pressure for more black people in some prestigious, lucrative fields, like professional baseball- but how much benefit does the average black person get from that? Not much, so far as I can tell. Just as men in general don't gain any special benefits from the fact that most … | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Obama finally working on a program specifically to help young minority(black) boys --- People ignoring all the exclusive women and girls programs cry afoul.African-American males are clearly a privileged class. Did you know that 100% of current US presidents are black men? /s | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 02:40 AM |
| 5 | Circumcision Disasters - This is what happens when circumcision goes wrong. Male Genital Mutilation MUST stop!Just like I am pro-choice with pregnancy, I am pro-choice with circumcision. You think a woman's parents should decide whether she has children? That would be the equivalent, since the right of adult men to have themselves circumcised is not at issue here. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/14 10:58 PM |
| 4 | If parents can circumcise men, why can't they give their boys a tattoo?The thing is circumcision has a religious implication Not for the great majority performed in the West, where it's largely the product of Victorian Era hysteria over the supposed effects of masturbation. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Independent inquiry in New Zealand into family violence suggests shifting the burden of proof in "domestic" cases so that alleged perpetrators are considered guilty unless they can prove they are innoIt acknowledges that many perpetrators are victims too: "While tane [men] may be perpetrators today, they have their own stories of being victims of child abuse, neglect and domestic violence." That's the closest the article gets to acknowledging male victims. Good Lord. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:51 PM |
| 4 | A woman smashed my head with her high heels while I was on the ground, nobody helped, doctors laughed at my face.So sorry to hear that. Don't let anybody tell you're getting worked up over nothing; facing ridicule from a place you thought would be supportive after a traumatic event can be devastating. Take care. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:44 PM |
| 13 | Only men were killed: At the Breeze View Hotel, the gunmen pulled the men aside and ordered the women to watch as they killed them.But I'm not sure complaining they didn't kill the women is the healthiest viewpoint. Good thing nobody here is doing that, then. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:33 PM |
| 8 | Only men were killed: At the Breeze View Hotel, the gunmen pulled the men aside and ordered the women to watch as they killed them.There's nothing specifically female about /u/OrthodoxWaffle's dehumanizing scumbaggery; there's no shortage of men who'll say exactly the same thing. Feminism is the problem, not women. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:28 PM |
| 9 | Only men were killed: At the Breeze View Hotel, the gunmen pulled the men aside and ordered the women to watch as they killed them.Yes, that's the same reason I don't much care about little girls abused or killed by their mothers... Is what I'd say if I was a bigoted piece of shit like you. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 11:23 PM |
| 4 | A woman who’s “against men’s rights” wants to attend the Detroit conferencethought i'd reply to a few of you without making a separate comment. i'm always surprised by MRAs who think feminists are "out" for them specifically. mostly i just kind of wish y'all would find some better leaders to emulate. i suspect that would solve about 95% of the dialogue problem right there. for instance, Elam may be charismatic but it might behoove the more forward thinking of you to consider your long term goals and how likely the chances are he is a greater liability to your legitimac… | /r/MensRights | 16/06/14 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Feminist media bias, or how Man Boobz caused a media circusNot sure if this is what /r/geektragedy is referring to, but at the end of his manifesto, when he describes his ideal society, he basically sound like a gender-reversed version of the more hardcore radfems- the ideal world is all-male because sexual intercourse itself is incompatible with a just, decent society. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/14 10:40 PM |
| 3 | I was kicked out of my campus feminist group for talking out about circumcision.But I think it's a little silly to be a part of a gay rights group and expect them to discuss and champion african american rights, even if everyone is in favor of rights for all. Does that make sense? If prominent gay rights activists were claiming that groups dedicated to opposing racism shouldn't exist because any legitimate problems black people face in this country are actually gay rights issues that the gay rights movement is already working on, it wouldn't be silly at all. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/14 11:54 PM |
| 2 | I was kicked out of my campus feminist group for talking out about circumcision.But I think it's a little silly to be a part of a gay rights group and expect them to discuss and champion african american rights, even if everyone is in favor of rights for all. Does that make sense? If prominent gay rights activists were claiming that groups dedicated to opposing racism shouldn't exist because any legitimate problems black people face in this country are actually gay rights issues that the gay rights movement is already working on, it wouldn't be silly at all. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/14 11:54 PM |
| 3 | I was kicked out of my campus feminist group for talking out about circumcision.but I wouldn't go into a feminist group and try to talk about male issues / concerns, that's not what the group is for. A great many feminists claim that harm's men suffer from sexism are part of feminism's purview. Don't blame the OP for taking them at their word. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/14 11:44 PM |
| 4 | Nice article. Body shaming men and their choice of attire on the beach.Anything is allowed to be criticized, including criticism. Weirdness is neither here nor there. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/14 11:28 PM |
| 4 | I circumcised my son, now I regret it.Not a parent but I will suggest: When he's old enough to understand, tell him you're sorry. A few years ago, I was in the car with my mother when there was something on the radio about circumcision. My mom, quite to my surprise, apologized for having me circumcised as a baby, saying she'd never have agreed to it if she'd know then what she knows now. I was startled at just how touched I was hearing her say that; it really meant a lot to me. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/14 05:56 AM |
| 1 | Feel like there's no point sometimesI've undergone psychiatric treatment for many years now; it helps. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/14 05:47 AM |
| 1 | As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it..I always find this insulting to men. At the moment, I'm more insulted by this sort of painfully transparent crocodile tears routine. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/14 01:22 AM |
| 5 | As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it..They want feminists to concentrate on the rights of both sexes and become egalitarian, while not following their advice AT ALL. Feminists almost universally claim that feminism is not merely a movement for gender equality, but the movement for gender equality; we're always told that feminism is already dealing with the harm men suffer because of sexism, and that if we really care about those harms we ought to disband the MRM and become feminists. There's nothing unreasonable or hypocritical abou… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/14 11:31 PM |
| 1 | "My form is bigotry is ok!"I really don't follow the logic there. The #notallmen hashtag has been explained to me by feminists as the following: "Of course we don't mean all men when we say "men…", so stop derailing our discussions with "but not all men do that!"". This is clearly not an accusation aimed at all men. On the contrary, they're saying "WE KNOW it's not all men, we never even said that it was all men, so please stop emphasising all men because it's just a distraction from our discussion about some men". I'd fi… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/14 02:00 AM |
| 4 | [TW: Jezebel] Women should masturbate, but men that masturbate are lonely creepsI never said accepting an article means you share the opinions of the author. It does, however, mean you consider those opinions acceptable for the publication. The editorial decision-makers of Jezebel consider mocking men who use sex toys as disgusting, pathetic, etc. to be within the range of acceptable opinion for their site, whereas I don't believe for an instant that they would view similar treatment of women that way. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/14 12:40 AM |
| 5 | The One Good Man Project's editor Joanna Schroeder: male feminists "don't get a say in feminism" and should "shut up and listen".Men don't get a say in feminism, but it's still perfectly appropriate to publish article after article after article about feminism on a site ostensibly for men, about manhood, because... shut up. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/14 12:05 AM |
| 8 | [TW: Jezebel] Women should masturbate, but men that masturbate are lonely creepsPerhaps it's worth noting that the website Jezebel can't make any statements, only the writers on the website can make statements. The editors make implicit statements with their decisions about which articles are acceptable for the site and which aren't. I'd be very surprised if they accepted an article describing women who use vibrators as pathetic, creepy perverts. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/14 11:38 PM |
| 8 | I cannot defend A Voice for Men's Paul Elam from his scathing comments in 2010 about women "begging to be raped". If the feminists should take their worst to task, why not us?I don't like the article, though in its original context I can't muster much outrage about it either. Feminists harangue men with never-ending demands that men give women MORE empathy, MORE concern, MORE protection, even when women already get the great majority of it, while demonstrating a near-total unwillingness to show men even a fraction of the sympathy they endlessly demand from men. Elam replied by describing some women with the same brutal lack of sympathy that victimized men and boys ar… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/14 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Guys, Feminists Are Not Your FriendsYou know, I keep hearing about the big bad feminist "coverup" of male rape victims and whatnot. I would absolutely love some evidence that this happens with any kind of frequency. And I'm not talking about bad legislation involving 'penetration', I'm not talking about what courts/cops do, I mean specifically feminists trying to cover up or marginalize instances of male rape. Here you go. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 03:29 AM |
| 10 | They singled out men and boys and opened fire on themBecause Boko Harem see girls as a commodity Would you prefer it if they were killed? | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 12:48 AM |
| 3 | They singled out men and boys and opened fire on themKudos to the article for not glossing over the gender issue for once. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Guys, Feminists Are Not Your FriendsHe's talking about this. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Breaking the Boy: The twisting and turning of trying to raise a boy to be a "real man."Yet, there is no one to blame but other men. Women are not teaching us to lock ourselves into emotional insecurity, or lie and say "everything" is fine. It would be easier for me to sympathize with the author's painful childhood if he wasn't claiming that my own didn't happen because it doesn't fit his ideology. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 12:20 AM |
| 4 | Instead of having "feminism" and "men's rights," why isn't there one civil rights group that works to solve inequalities suffered by both genders?Take it up with the feminists insisting that we ought to be feminists if we care about men's rights issues, because feminism is supposedly already working on that stuff. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 02:16 AM |
| 3 | Instead of having "feminism" and "men's rights," why isn't there one civil rights group that works to solve inequalities suffered by both genders?But what is the point of raising male issues in a "feminist space"? That could be seen as derailing the conversation. I'm not at all saying men's issues are invalid, but in a space that's meant for feminism, men's issues aren't necessarily the relevant topic. To the extent they acknowledge men having valid issues, feminists tend to quite loudly insist that those issues also fall within feminism's purview, and that if we care about them we ought to be feminists. It's hardly fair to blame /u/Keiic… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Framing the debate, should we change how we speak?So you don't mind if feminists start using "prick pass" as a term for male privilege? Coming to twitter soon: #prickpass It's no more obnoxious or offensive than what they're saying now. I say go for it. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 03:00 AM |
| 0 | I do not get men's rights.Take your rape apologist bullshit somewhere else. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/14 04:24 AM |
| 1 | "There is no greater threat to women than men."Nice cherry picking there. Yeah, makes sense, because the title is the only content. There isn't a series of images associated with the title, and there isn't any discussion on this page. Thanks for clearing that up. /s Yes, let's delve deeper into the content, shall we? There's content like "Men, by remaining silent, you are further perpetuating the war on women." Or "Women don't owe you shit." Plus recurring appearances by beloved feminist dogwhistle "entitlement." Maybe we could drop the bull… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/14 03:31 AM |
| 1 | A Gentlemen’s Guide To Rape CultureOne thing really stood out there - this guy says he's not afraid of being attacked on the street. Let's assume he's telling the truth. A lot of what feminist men say sounds suspiciously like macho bragging. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/14 01:40 AM |
| 2 | A Gentlemen’s Guide To Rape CultureWomen aren’t the only victims — men rape men, women rape men — but what makes rape a men’s problem, our problem, is the fact that men commit 99% of reported rapes. I'm glad to hear that the whole issue with rape being underreported that feminists often lament is apparently no longer a problem. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/14 01:35 AM |
| 1 | "There is no greater threat to women than men."If these guys are pussy-whipped losers or white knights, then what do we call feminists who speak out about threats to men or boys? The situation doesn't really come up often enough to be worth worrying about. Not every gender issue that it benefits women to discuss is "feminist propaganda". No one one has suggested otherwise. The images the OP links to, on the other hand, clearly are. You are attacking a straw man. and we can't show concern for our daughters, mothers, and sisters because that's… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/14 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Dear men:STFUShut The Fuck Up and Listen To Women. This is sort of hilarious, when the most listened-to MRA on the Internet today is a woman. Even more so when it turns out the author of this crap is actually male. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/14 12:47 AM |
| 7 | Dear men:STFUYou're a man? Good, then you won't be offended by me telling you to shut the fuck up. If you ever run into /u/typhonblue or /u/girlwriteswhat or any of the other women who frequent this subreddit, make sure you don't disagree with them. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/14 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Dear men:STFUare you saying that violence against women isn't the fault of men? It's somehow entirely/partially women's fault? I'm pretty sure the subset of violence against women committed by other women is (some) women's fault, yeah. Unless "violence against women" actually means "violence against women that feminists give a damn about," in which case it's male-perpetrated by definition. That is literally misogyny. Acknowledging the existence of lesbian victims of domestic violence, or daughters abused by … | /r/MensRights | 02/06/14 12:29 AM |
| 25 | It's different when woman get harassed. Buzzfeed blame game.The best ways for you to help are to use your privilege to amplify women’s voices, and stand up to sexism when you see it happening. OK, sure. Erin Pizzney is a woman. Wendy McElroy is a woman. Karen Straughan and Alison Tieman are women. As soon as I can locate this privilege I apparently have, I'll start amplifying some things they've said about- Oh, that's not what you meant? You were just trying to use half of the human race as your own ideology's ventriloquist dummy? I wish you'd been more … | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 07:27 AM |
| 5 | Michael Laxer accuses CAFE of being a hate movementHey, thanks for the link. I wonder if anyone has told Laxer and Lochwin that the founder of the venue they've chosen to publish in has engaged in rape-apology? One of their criticisms of CAFE is that "they deny the gendered nature of rape," so Laxer and Lockwin seem more likely to consider that a virtue than a vice. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Anyone know of any innocent woman who's been released after serving years in prison?Several victims of the "Satanic abuse" prosecutions of the 80s were women. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 12:57 AM |
| 2 | I am for Men's Rights but...You do realize that the whole "us vs them" rhetoric is generally considered one of the bad things about politics? It's a bad and unavoidable thing about politics. Politics is a form of conflict, divisive by nature. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/14 12:06 AM |
| 1 | I am for Men's Rights but...We should try and be the better people Someone who says "people who've aligned themselves with this ideology this ideology suck," even unfairly, is already being better than someone who says "the half of the human race with this unchosen, unchangeable innate characteristic sucks." Significantly so. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/14 11:39 PM |
| 0 | The men fighting for the right to wear skirts "We're fighting against prejudice and cliches. Women fought for trousers; we're doing the same with the skirt."One 60 minute hit piece focusing on this aspect and the movement and Men's Rights would be a laughingstock to mainstream society. If they're dishonest and/or incompetent enough to look at this subreddit and do a broadcast about how the right to wear a dress is the focus of the MRM, it really doesn't matter WHAT we actually say or do. They could just as easily look at some of your comments in this thread and conclude that we're dedicated to bitching about "trannies." | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 11:57 PM |
| 0 | The men fighting for the right to wear skirts "We're fighting against prejudice and cliches. Women fought for trousers; we're doing the same with the skirt."What "focusing?" There's been a few threads about the subject here over the past few days. /r/MensRights is in no danger of becoming dominated by discussions about skirts. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 08:49 PM |
| 10 | The men fighting for the right to wear skirts "We're fighting against prejudice and cliches. Women fought for trousers; we're doing the same with the skirt."I'm no fan of the original poster, but if they if they're actually posting some legit stuff relevant to men's rights I'm not going to complain. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Small Roleplaying Game Company Kicks Out MRA's From it's ForumHere's our stance: If you self-define as an MRA, please fire yourself as an Eclipse Phase fan. Done. Posthuman Studios need not worry about me spending money on or speaking positively of Eclipse Phase, or anything else its owners are involved in, ever again. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Wheaton has finally gone off the deep endI used to really like Wheaton, but he seems more and more like just another asshole stomping down on men less fortunate than himself to build up his own status. The fact that he's made himself a sort of trusted figure for a lot of the kind of guys who are especially hurt by the gender system he's defending makes it especially inexcusable. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Feminists highjack what should be a Mental Health issue.It's not a "question," it's a content-free taunt of this subreddit's users. I'm perfectly happy to deter that. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 02:39 AM |
| 1 | "Let's Laugh at The Men's Rights Movement" - SBS (Australian News Channel) (Article)That would be Something Awful. Still around, though not nearly as prominent as it used to be. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Aussie judge asks: If an underage boy and underage girl have sex, why is only the boy charged with a crime?No one loves victim-blaming more than feminists. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Aussie judge asks: If an underage boy and underage girl have sex, why is only the boy charged with a crime?Why does the gender of the law makers matter? It's a way of blaming the victim. The faceless collective "Men" is blamed for those laws, and since the boy is himself a part of that faceless collective he doesn't deserve sympathy. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 11:37 PM |
| 6 | [Discussion] Today, I had that awful conversation...According to the OP, this person brought up her fear of rape when the discussion was about rape accusations. You were were saying something about "sidetracking" and "derailing" being bad? | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 08:26 AM |
| 1 | What brought you to the MHRM?Seeing the way male rape and abuse victims are treated. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 03:36 AM |
| 15 | Time to get positive. What would help alienated men?Actually having it doesn't. Being accused of having it certainly can. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Salon: Straight White Guy? You part of the problem...The Patriarchy has given him a posthumous promotion to full White Man in recognition of his meritorious service. Obviously. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 12:01 AM |
| 6 | "Reverse Sexism Does Not Exist"In my country, women are losing the right to their bodily autonomy, are unable to get help after being raped without being asked if they had been drinking or what they were wearing. Whereas men seldom get to the "asked if they've been drinking" stage, because merely being male is enough for most people to dismiss them as a possible rape victim. People like you are no small part of the reason for that. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Why am I being compared to a mentally ill, narcissistic, racist, misogynist, sociopathic serial killer?Not all men are rapists, but all men /are/ privileged. The fact that women must be constantly wary of sexual violence while men don’t should be enough for us all to accept that. Everyone knows men can't be raped, right? | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 11:41 PM |
| 3 | Barbara Kay: Elliot Rodger’s horrible acts co-opted by feministsThat's always been my experience as well: Conflicts between males seem more likely to explode, but also more likely to end in reconciliation or at least mutual tolerance. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 11:14 PM |
| 0 | Deleted by FrogmanAside from "white knight" and the absence of the word "fedora," your post could practically be a cut-and-paste of some ignoramus regurgitating all the stereotypes about MRAs he's picked up from Tumblr feminists and the Jezebel comments section. Men who are unsuccessful, unattractive, virgins, or have odd interests already get enough shit from mainstream society and from feminists; the last thing anyone concerned for men's rights should do is side with their tormentors. Take this crap somewhere e… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.All the women in your life are afraid because saying 'no' is now a fearful prospect. The women in my life don't deserve your insults. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 01:08 AM |
| 5 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.Well, the mask certainly didn't take long to slip! Men and boys being driven to suicide is an example of "annoyance," complained about by the "pedantic." You're doing a better job arguing against feminism than I ever could. Congrats. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.Yes, men in positions of power have always been firmly opposed to circumcision, military conscription, indifference or cruelty to male victims of rape and domestic violence, gender norms that stigmatize male admissions of pain or weakness, and all those other things MRAs complain about. You're an imbecile. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 12:45 AM |
| 3 | I opened up to my family about being raped and was laughed at.I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't know what to say, except that you're always welcome to share your story here if you think it would help you. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Most of Rodger's victims were MEN. Why doesn't anyone care about them?Admitting that he hated women and that there could be things about that that we could explore given that seems to be such a hard thing for many people to accept and I just don't understand it. Because most of the people- or at least the most audible people- talking about wanting to explore the role of his misogyny in his crimes have been conspicuously opposed to exploring the role his other hatreds might also have played. If people saying "Misogyny!" were less prone to saying "And only misogyny,… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 09:28 PM |
| 7 | Most of Rodger's victims were MEN. Why doesn't anyone care about them?I didn't mean to cherry pick. He did indeed say that too. I don't think what your quote is representative of the text, however, whereas mine is. It's hardly the only quote where he specifically attacks men, and a great deal of his ranting is about condemning and wanting to punish everyone. Even your own quote condemns humanity in general- it just condemns women more. He hated women more than men, sure. He still hated his fellow men enough to murder several of them. I mean, Nazis railed against J… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Most of Rodger's victims were MEN. Why doesn't anyone care about them?Obviously people care that men died. It's obvious with some people. Not at all obvious with others. In this case we got 140 pages that allow us that very thing, and with statements like the following, it is not hard to see how we could start a conversation about misogyny: It's started plenty of lectures and monologues about misogyny, precious little indication of interest in "conversation." Talking about misogyny being present and not caring about male victims are two massively different things … | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 09:08 PM |
| 4 | Why don't the feminists condemn the misandrists in their movement?Bigoted MRAs? Do you even read this sub? Do a search for the word 'cunt' and see how often that one pops up. Some people here have used the female equivalent of "asshole?" The horror. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 02:06 AM |
| 5 | Why don't the feminists condemn the misandrists in their movement?Some feminists call out misandry within their own movement, And their self-identification as feminists is denied by the rest of the movement as a result, often in very harsh terms. Ask Wendy McElroy or Cathy Young or Christina Hoff Somers. A movement should not be credited with the virtues of the people it vehemently rejects as fakes or traitors for possessing those very virtues. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 02:04 AM |
| 4 | MRAs: Can you describe any times when you were growing up when you were taught you were entitled to women, entitled to their bodies, entitled to sex? As TyphonBlue suggests, I was often taught my wortNever taught anything resembling what Valenti describes. Never seen any indication that this supposedly widespread "male entitlement" taught by our culture is anything more than feminist women projecting. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 12:30 AM |
| 6 | Men can't hit a woman, even if she's attacking your daughter.Your silly "I just came here out of curiosity" schtick would be a little more believable if you didn't immediately follow it up with the exact same thing that every sexist dirtbag from SRS or AMR says whenever someone has the temerity to suggest that men have the right to self-defense. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Tumblr user discusses the "Not All Men" trend and the hypocrisyI think you've misinterpreted what the commenter is trying to say. He/she is saying there's virtually no threat of being physically and sexually assaulted on account of being a straight white man. That would be an odd thing to be trying to say in this thread, since the OP and subsequent discussion of it here is about "men." Not "straight white men." It's a nonsensical response, unless you're the sort of racist, homophobic bigot who thinks that adult males are only "men" if they're straight and w… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 11:07 PM |
| 17 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.Dude, he was shooting at women. Men got caught in the crossfire. He kicked off his rampage by stabbing several men to death in his apartment. That's how three of the four men he killed died. Were they "caught in the crossfire," too? Was he trying to kill a female neighbor he'd lured in with a barrage of throwing knives when they accidentally wandered in front of him? His manifesto was entirely about killing women for depriving him of sex. No, it wasn't. Read it. He also goes on about his disgust… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 10:42 PM |
| 4 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.I don't see any women going on mass shootings. You should get in touch with Jennifer San Marco's victims and give them the good news. I'm sure they'll be relieved to know that they're not actually dead. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 10:03 PM |
| 3 | Elliot Rodger And Men Who Hate Women - MensRights movement accused by homicideRight. Other than 7 random dead women. Not to nitpick, but a number of the dead are actually men. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 02:15 AM |
| 2 | The language used in the Daily Kos article about the California Mass shooting means the end of the MRMFeminists tried the same lie with Anders Breivik. This, too, shall pass. In any case, the actual "evidence" tying Rodger to the MRA is so pathetically flimsy that, if a person is gullible and ignorant enough to be taken in by it, they're also gullible and ignorant enough to be taken in by any number of the other ridiculous slanders about us that feminists endlessly regurgitate, so I'm not sure one more lie makes much practical difference. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 02:09 AM |
| 6 | The goodmen project's Executive Editor Joanna Schroeder exploiting mass murder to construct a false narrative about the men's movement.Yeah, I've long felt really, really bad for Tom Matlack. Whatever my problems with him, he was clearly motivated by genuine benevolence towards men and boys, and he ends up seeing the work he'd done because he'd wanted to help them twisted into the opposite by people he thought he could trust- because he thought they genuinely cared, too, and didn't understand he was wrong until it was too late. Poor guy. I hope he's doing OK. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 01:41 AM |
| 14 | Link to UCSD mass murderer's manifesto: Reading it now to see if there's any mention of men's rights at all.In the final part of the manifesto, Rodger goes into his wider views on humanity and on how society ought to be ordered. Some samples: I am the closest thing there is to a living god. Humanity is a disgusting, depraved, and evil species. It is my purpose to punish them all. I look at the human race and see only vileness and depravity, all because of an act known as... sexuality... (Ellipses in original) Sex is by far the most evil concept in existence. The fact that life itself exists through se… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 01:24 AM |
| 17 | Liberals blaming "Mens Rights" as cause of mass murder. Even though there's no evidence this man was involved in Men's RightsReally? Yes, PUAs aspire to be "the true alpha male", or to at least imitate it well enough to be sexually successful with women. But PUA has an incidental overlap with the MRM, and even if they agree on some aspects of the problem, the two groups have completely different approaches to dealing with it. The Archfiend himself, Paul Elam, had an article called "Killing the Alpha Male" that was later revised and expanded into The Plague of Modern Masculinity." (Figuratively) killing the "alpha male… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/14 11:59 PM |
| 7 | Teacher molests male student, cop husband and his cop buddies harass and intimidate the victim.If the husband worked any other job, I'd agree, but in this case I'd be very surprised if he faced any serious punishment. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/14 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Can we actively discourage using words like 'Femsplain' and 'Wymyn/wimmins'?But why give them ammunition? They manufacture their own. The great majority of feminist criticism of the MRM is so unhinged from reality that it really doesn't matter what we actually do or say. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/14 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Can we actively discourage using words like 'Femsplain' and 'Wymyn/wimmins'?Because feminists have the ear of probably 90% of the women in my life, and 60% of the men. And if they proclaim MRAs to be misogynists long enough (which isn't long, really) then this will never be more than a fringe movement. They're not going to stop proclaiming that, regardless of what we do. Caring about men's rights issues is misogyny, as far as they're concerned. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/14 06:47 AM |
| 4 | Feminist makes comment suggesting that caring about female on male violence means you want to beat women.You know, reading your posts in /r/antisrs , I actually thought that maybe you were the sort of feminist who doesn't have to be our enemy. And then I read your posts in this thread, and virtually all of it is just the same despicable, dishonest bullshit and the same why-do-you-make-me-hit-you wifebeater logic as all the other feminists whose "concern" for male issues consists of discouraging people who actually oppose misandry from complaining about it. Unlike some of my fellow MRAs, I actually … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/14 06:29 AM |
| 7 | Thanks to /mensrights I'm a victim, and it's ok.Thank you for sharing this. I'm glad this place has been helpful to you. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/14 05:35 AM |
| 2 | Obama deploys 80 US troops to Chad to look for the missing Boko Haram girls in Nigeria; where were they when 100s of boys were getting killed?If you're tired of this story, perhaps your time would be better spent reading and commenting on one of the dozens of other new topics posted on this subreddit each day, instead of bitching about this one. If you're lucky, eventually you might even stumble on one where your tired "Why is this in men's rights?" routine is actually relevant. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Yes to men’s rights (provided it never actually happens) - "Gynocentrism runs so deep that even non-feminists, be they liberals or conservatives, balk at the idea of men’s rights."The idea that the people who hold power are men is totally ridiculous and nothing but a paranoid conspiracy theory, but the idea that women hold all the power in society, that's a totally reasonable idea based on logic and facts. "Gynocentrism" doesn't mean "women hold all the power in society." Do you actually not understand that, or are you just pretending not to? It's hard to tell with your sort. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 12:51 AM |
| 0 | Are "trigger warnings" just a way to curtail free speech and open dialog?No, they can be a very good and useful thing in some contexts- unfortunately, a lot of people more interested in using them as a political tool. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/14 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Are "trigger warnings" just a way to curtail free speech and open dialog?Great post. I made a post about 20 days ago about being mentally ill. That exploded and from that I have now started work on a game that leads people through what it's like to live with mental illness. The name of the game and one of the founding gameplay mechanics is "Triggered" I'd love to hear more about this. Do you have a website, or anything like that? | /r/MensRights | 21/05/14 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Are "trigger warnings" just a way to curtail free speech and open dialog?I don't know about movies but trigger warnings on just text seem to be problematic. if just reading about X sets you off, then reading about a warning about reading about X is likely to set you off too. I don't think that's necessarily true. There's a big difference between reading, say, a graphic description of rape and the words "Warning: This post contains a graphic description of rape." | /r/MensRights | 21/05/14 12:58 AM |
| 12 | Yes to men’s rights (provided it never actually happens) - "Gynocentrism runs so deep that even non-feminists, be they liberals or conservatives, balk at the idea of men’s rights."This comment encapsulates why people think men's rights is a joke, because of the conception that men's rights activists are misogynistic. /u/K-li accuses a man who attacks men's rights of being driven by base, secret motives rather than genuine conviction... therefore he disdains women. That makes no sense whatsoever, even by the already-low standards of other people who come here flinging accusations of misogyny. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/14 12:50 AM |
| 2 | If feminists truly believe there is an epidemic of campus rape, why aren't they calling for gender-segregated schools?Followed by no answer to my concerns and a clumsy insult! Which concerns? Your concerns about "separate but equal" facilities for men and women being the hallmark of oppressive Middle Eastern theocracies, or your concern that a lack of separate facilities for men and women will turn domestic violence shelters into a hotbed of physical violence, verbal abuse, and sexual misconduct? | /r/MensRights | 20/05/14 01:23 AM |
| 4 | Men Are Raped Almost as Often as Women in America.That article does not even contain the word "feminism". I could just as easily blame MRM for OJ getting off. The author identifies as a feminist. Here, for example. | /r/MensRights | 19/05/14 02:20 AM |
| 29 | Solange and Jay-Z: it's simply not the same if a man is hit by a womanUghh, Barbara Ellen. If anyone wants to see what an actual privileged sexist defending their privilege looks like, here you go. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/14 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Female rapist granted refugee status in CanadaOn the plus side, this removes her from American society permanently, instead of just for whatever pathetic fraction of her sentence she'd actually have served if she'd stayed. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/14 05:05 AM |
| 2 | Creep shamed, because I wouldn't let a woman return a sweaterYes, Warren Farrell has long been notorious for his foul language, I'm sure. It's funny how much feminists sound like a stereotypical wife-beater- "Why do you make me hit you, honey?" | /r/MensRights | 17/05/14 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Can we stop with the "male privilege" silliness? Instead of suggesting males should feel guilty about being male, the focus ought to be on women and what's holding them back, if anythingNobody is saying that people need to be guilty about being male, If you want to argue that "privilege" is a useful term and concept, by all means do so, but don't insult everyone here with bald-faced absurdities like this. Maybe you don't use idea of "privilege" this way. Maybe the people who originally introduced it as a term in sociology or in leftist politics didn't mean for it to be used that way. But it very clearly is used that way by many people, and you do your argument no favors by insi… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/14 12:48 AM |
| 4 | My girlfriend told me that men weren't disposable in the past and that if men caused the war, they should fight it.You don't have to be a "fervent MRA supporter" to reject the idea that men as a collective deserve to be sent to war because the leaders who caused it were male. You just have to see men as individual human beings. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/14 12:11 AM |
| 3 | Boys Need Help with Self-Esteem, TooThis is really interesting; I'd love to see you develop this further some day. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/14 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Made To Penetrate: Female-on-Male RapeThat's called an ad hominem attack. No, it's an explanation of why you've never encountered a man who's had those experiences- they seldom talk about it, and those that do probably wouldn't confide in someone who seems conspicuously unlikely to take them seriously. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/14 12:49 AM |
| 3 | Almost lost my job, asexuality saved it.So, you can reproduce with yourself? Wow. That's pretty neat. You think it's attractively clean and orderly? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 02:10 AM |
| 2 | Made To Penetrate: Female-on-Male RapeI have met a lot of women who have been raped / abused. I have never met a man that has had those experiences. If I were ever raped by a woman, I'd take the secret to my grave. And based on what I've seen in this thread, if I ever did tell anybody it certainly wouldn't be someone like you. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Oxford Dictionary - Why do they feel the need to add "typically a man" to the definition of 'Rapist'?Not buying this. A lot of words for particular types of people still carry assumptions about the sex of that person for a lot of folks. If it were simply a matter of accurately reflecting typical usage, I'd expect "typically a man" to appear in the definition for words like "doctor" or "firefighter" as well. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Oxford Dictionary - Why do they feel the need to add "typically a man" to the definition of 'Rapist'?Because, and I'm not saying it's right, the act of forcible sex is generally done by men, especially historically. Then one could just as reasonably include "typically a man" to the definition of countless nouns- doctor, sailor, miner, bricklayer, scientist, carpenter, the list goes on. I'm not aware of any dictionary that does this. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 01:25 AM |
| 169 | What these girls did to a boy with autism is sick, and so is this feminist’s responseWhat I said when I originally saw this over on /r/TumblrInAction bears repeating here, I think. Michael definitely showed bad judgment in continuing to hang out with these girls, but was it a different order of bad judgment than many other teenagers? Than, say, a slightly unpopular boy who is so besotted by the attention of a mean-girl cheerleader that he would beat up someone on her behalf, buy her drugs, spread rumors about a girl she hates, blow his savings on Rainbow Loom bracelets she was s… | /r/MensRights | 10/05/14 05:59 AM |
| 2 | "Facing up to Atheism's MRA Problem" by Adam LeeChrist, that comment section. I'd call them morons, but strictly speaking that requires an IQ of 51 or higher. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/14 11:51 PM |
| 6 | Feminist extremists, genuinely scared by the good arguments for Legal Parental Surrender, have begun to organize a counter-offensive.All these people claiming that LPS would lead to an explosive increase in abandoned children because men will no longer wear condoms... Have they considered the possibility of women who don't want to be pregnant turning down unprotected sex? The problems they predict assume that women are extremely stupid and irresponsible, so controlled by their own bestial appetites that, despite bearing the burden of pregnancy, they'll take no action to avoid it. And we're supposed to be the misogynists. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/14 01:22 AM |
| 2 | New Book: Voice Male. The Untold Story of the Pro-Feminist Men's MovementUgh. For those unfamiliar with feminist movement terminology, "pro-feminist men" are men who endorse the feminist movement but think it would be getting above themselves to actually call themselves "feminists." | /r/MensRights | 08/05/14 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Why has female-on-male rape received joke status and even the name "spermjacking" by feminists on reddit?I wouldn't want to be alone in a room with the sort of person who likes to describe reproductive abuse "satirically." | /r/MensRights | 08/05/14 05:10 AM |
| 2 | [Discussion]TwoX is now a default. What does MRs think about this? and why do you think it happened?This seems reasonable. Defaults are selected largely on size and activity, and TwoX has nearly 180,000 subscribers. (OneY has only 24,000, for comparison.) | /r/MensRights | 08/05/14 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Boko Haram butchers schoolboys en masse for 8 months in Nigeria, no outrage. Media claims in May the same group abducted 200+ schoolgirls. Cataclysmic outrage. US pledges diplomatic & military intervention, Change.org hosts petition signed by hundreds of thousands, and SJWs set Twitter on fire.However given the choice of a life of slavery and rape and a comparatively quick death no matter how painful I chose death. This is very easy to say when you're not looking down the barrel of a literal gun. It seems to be a lot less popular among people actually forced to make the choice. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/14 01:47 AM |
| 1 | The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?Most feminist men seem far more like the sort of people who'd have been dishing out the bullying, rather than taking it- stomping down on weaker males to boost their own status and curry female approval. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 02:09 AM |
| 1 | George Melcher Elementary: a seven year-old boy has a nervous breakdown after being bullied and tormented by peers. School officials put him in handcuffs. The boy was nonviolent and never uttered anyI wouldn't go that far, I doubt this is about gender, but rather no tolerance policies. There doesn't seem to be anything indicating that in the OP or the articles it links to. If anything, this quote from the school district's representative: There are a number of methods our staff can use, and one of those is using handcuffs, and that’s what occurred in this incident. strongly implies the opposite. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 01:24 AM |
| 2 | George Melcher Elementary: a seven year-old boy has a nervous breakdown after being bullied and tormented by peers. School officials put him in handcuffs. The boy was nonviolent and never uttered anyMoving the goalposts entails responding to a refutation of your own claim by trying to change the standard of evidence so that the proof that you're wrong suddenly ceases to count as proof, abandoning a refuted claim for a more defensible one without admitting you've done so. Just to me the way you answered looked very much like "Say X, get disproved, answer"Well that might be true but Y"". Depends what Y is. If Y is an ad hoc reason X is supposedly true anyway, that's moving the goalposts. If Y… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Question: What is /r/MensRights' stance on abortion?Okay, but wouldn't it be unfair for the man to be able to just walk away from parenthood while the woman would have to go through the emotional and physical trauma of having an abortion? I think you're underestimating the potential emotional toll of an abortion on many men, whether at the time or thinking back on it years later. It's not "just walking away" for many men, any more than abortion is just outpatient surgery or taking some pills for all women. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Question: What is /r/MensRights' stance on abortion?I don't think you can really say there's a distinctive men's rights movement position, since most of the abortion debate hinges on a question (fetal personhood) that the principles of the MRM don't directly address, one way or the other. Most MRAs I've encountered are pro-choice, as I am, probably reflecting the fact that we're 1. much more likely to be libertarians than the general population and 2. highly critical the sort of traditional gender norms typically favored by the subculture- conser… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 11:59 PM |
| -4 | Step-fathers are nine times more likely to sexually abuse their daughters than biological fathers. Why do we never see feminists argue in favor of stable families?In all senses of the word, yes, humans are animals. We are part of the animal kingdom. The term's meaning as a classification in the science of biology does not determine its meaning in other contexts, any more than the meaning of "power" or "energy" or "work" in physics dictates what these words mean in everyday speech. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 12:18 AM |
| -1 | Step-fathers are nine times more likely to sexually abuse their daughters than biological fathers. Why do we never see feminists argue in favor of stable families?Second definition of "animal" given by Merriam-Webster is "one of the lower animals as distinguished from human beings." This is a common, well-established usage in everyday English, and it's obvious from context that he was using it in this sense. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 12:11 AM |
| 3 | Came here mislead. I absolutely see nothing wrong with this group.OK. Since "feminist" is an ideological group people choose to join and "man" is an unchosen, unchangeable trait that you're born with , it's ridiculous to claim that someone making negative generalizations about one is acting "exactly the same way" as someone making negative generalizations about the other. It's like claiming that hating white supremacists is equivalent to hating black people. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/14 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Came here mislead. I absolutely see nothing wrong with this group.It's funny, you were talking about feminists generalizing men through privilege, and the first thing you do here is generalize them. You're gonna fit RIGHT in! Lots of people here complain about a certain behavior, and then act exactly the same way. "Feminist" is an unchosen biological characteristic possessed by roughly half the human race? | /r/MensRights | 04/05/14 01:56 AM |
| 2 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.I was just saying that it's clearly insinuated in this post (by comparing women to men this way), that there's something inherently wrong between males and females which is causing this difference in homicide rates, but I think a lot of it has to do with society as a whole. OK, I think I've zeroed in on where the problem lies. I think you've misunderstood what the original chart means when viewed through a typical men's rights movement, rather than feminist or mainstream, lens Most of the discou… | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 11:09 PM |
| 2 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.Goodness gracious, does this have to be a contest? Feminists who talk about "male privilege" certainly think so. See to the log in your own movement's eye, if that sort of thing really bothers you so much, instead of attack people for daring to stand up for themselves after being constantly told to shut up because their problems are trivial. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 02:28 AM |
| 2 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.So, you're assuming every woman who attempts to commit suicide with means that tend to be less lethal actually do not intend on dying? /u/Dasque specified "and immediately phones for an ambulance." I think it's fairly reasonable to assume that a person actively taking measures intended to prevent their own death doesn't wholeheartedly want to die. And, more broadly, that a person who does things that increase their chances of survival- like using less effective methods that allow for last-minute… | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 02:05 AM |
| 1 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.they may feel that they will be perceived as being weak And they would be correct, in many, many cases. Male refusal to seek help is a rational response to existing conditions. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 01:23 AM |
| 2 | The Hard Truth About Girl-on-Guy RapeThe comments were mostly better than what I've come to expect from articles like these. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Women in the Draft? Let’s Fight for Gender Equality FirstA draft is needed when the country is facing a crisis and there are not enough people to fight to save the country. This has very little relevance to actual conscription. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 12:43 AM |
| 9 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.Yeah, those whiny pussies blowing their brains out need to man up, amirite? People like you are the reason so many men and boys with backgrounds like mine are dead. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/14 04:47 AM |
| 4 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.Let's not forget, 90% of homicides are also committed by men The importance of not forgetting this in a discussion of whether men are "privileged" is what, exactly? If a girl in Africa has her clitoris hacked off by a woman- and that is usually who does it- does that make it grow back, or something? Overall women actually attempt suicide twice as often as men. No, women engage in self-harm as a form of attention-seeking more often than men. If women "actually attempt" suicide twice as often as m… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/14 04:34 AM |
| 2 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"It's a shame how much people abuse it to make privileged people feel bad and silence their opinions. And it's a shame how often people misinterpret it like this Princeton student has. If people are routinely using it as a silencing tactic, it's hardly fair to accuse the student of "misinterpreting" it for taking it that way. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 11:53 PM |
| 3 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"Yeah. A lot of people who bang on about how much they supposedly care about equality and sensitivity quickly show a much uglier side where poor and working-class rural whites are concerned. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 11:47 PM |
| 18 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.Black people in the United States are much more likely to be victims of murder than white people- they're nearly half of victims despite being less than 13% of the population. Most black murder victims in the United States were murdered by other black people. Does that make their lives less valuable? Does that mean the utterly horrific toll violent crime takes on African-Americans "doesn't count?" Does that make it "unbalanced" to point out "much less likely to be murdered" as an area where whit… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 11:35 PM |
| 9 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.When WWI started most suffragettes stopped campaigning for women's suffrage, and spent their time assisting the war effort. The handing out of white feathers had nothing to do with their feminism, non-suffragists were part of the campaign too, and everything to do with them seeing themselves as patriots wanting to 'do their bit' for king & country. You said traditional gender roles "have been consistently opposed by feminists." The fact (if it is a fact) that suffragists were merely no worse tha… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 11:13 PM |
| 7 | When feminists say "male privilege," I think they may have forgotten about this.It's not a competition which gender has it worse. It is for the vast majority of feminists tossing the term "male privilege" around. Why don't you take it up with them? | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 10:41 PM |
| 1 | This is what my "best friend" thinks of MRAs.You might just ask, "Do you really think I'm a soulless piece of shit?" If she values your friendship and respects you as a person, that might jar her into stopping and thinking a little about what she's saying. If not... well, at least you'll know. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Male rape in America: A new study reveals that men are sexually assaulted almost as often as women [x-post]Just like it's "misleading" to say that murder rates for African-American men are horrifically high, right? | /r/MensRights | 30/04/14 11:16 PM |
| 3 | Male rape in America: A new study reveals that men are sexually assaulted almost as often as women [x-post]Being able to talk about men who are innocent victims without immediately derailing it into yet another discussion of what despicable monsters men are is a specifically /r/theredpill thing now? | /r/MensRights | 30/04/14 11:14 PM |
| 1 | What's up with all the hate for Paul Elam?We're not vilifying half the human race as the reason for everything that's wrong with the world. We're not claiming that being forcibly penetrated doesn't count as rape. We're not claiming that female victims of domestic violence don't exist and should get no help. We're not assembling screaming mobs and pulling fire alarms at every single public event a feminist dares to speak at. We're doing extremely well at being better than them. Responding to "Fuck you" with "No, fuck you" is not sending … | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 10:48 PM |
| 1 | What's up with all the hate for Paul Elam?In their own eyes, judged according to the values they cherish, yes. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 10:40 PM |
| 2 | What's up with all the hate for Paul Elam?If you want a MRM that will grow up to be just like its big sister, if you think the best antidote for extremism and hatemongering is an equal and opposite force of extremism and hatemongering, then Elam has got you covered. This comparison is incredibly dishonest. "Equal and opposite hatemongering" would involve AVfM publishing screeds calling women subhuman, or calling for the slaughter of most or all of the entire female sex, or claiming that rape "is nothing more or less than a conscious pro… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 10:36 PM |
| 4 | John Scalzi Keeps White-Knighting, ignores Real World ViolenceJohn Scalzi is an actual privileged male who uses that position to punch down at nonprivileged men and boys. He's a strutting macho bully, the sort of man feminists would despise if they actually meant what they said about fighting oppressive traditional gender norms. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 10:22 PM |
| 7 | Interview with Michael Kimmel by a Manosphere blogerI believe that when men are honest, communicative, and authentic, they will have great relationships. Textbook Just World fallacy- if men are unhappy with their relationships with women, it must be because they're bad people. That's most feminist "sympathy" for men's problems in a nutshell. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Discussion that brought up the need of feminism for menMen need feminism because rape is considered an action that happens to "lesser" beings, such as women. So when a man is raped, he's not truly a man, he's nothing but a lowly woman. You might want to ask them to think about how they'd respond to someone who applied this logic to a serious problem some women face. For example, female rape victims who are seen as "slutty" are sometimes treated as less worthy of help, sympathy, or the protection of the legal system than a "good" woman. But, as femin… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/14 01:59 AM |
| 5 | Despite there being a widespread social movement to combat the bullying women in online games, publicly shaming boys for playing video games still seems to be an alright thing to do.I disagree. A lot of mockery of video games boils down to the fact that they're associated with guys who don't fit social expectations about what males should be like. | /r/MensRights | 26/04/14 01:20 AM |
| 4 | "Do Men Suck At Friendship", (disgusting feminisation of tech workers at Hacker News)Some do, I assure you. Scumbags come in every shape and size. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 12:30 AM |
| 3 | "Do Men Suck At Friendship", (disgusting feminisation of tech workers at Hacker News)Que the white-knight-card defense. This is the risk you take when you mock people for typos. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Yeah c'mon guys suffer more!You've just said childbirth doesn't really hurt that much, instead women are just milking it. No wonder nobody takes this sub seriously. This really isn't a very effective lie, when I can just turn my mouse wheel up two notches and see where /r/nigglereddit said "while some need the most advanced pain management medical science can provide." | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 12:23 AM |
| 3 | I think we can all agree with this.Plenty of them say and do moronic shit, but pretending that's how "all of them" are doesn't help, imo. The OP speaks of "more and more " feminists, not "all of them." | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 11:07 PM |
| 4 | Feminist says "I think men should have a say in the debate about domestic violence ... but"Or perhaps "Not all men are violent, but all men should treated as if they were." | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Bear Grylls creates show to 'examine modern masculinity'. Needs more women, say feminists.I'm saying that it's a bit of a stretch to decide that someone is a feminist because they agree with something that you think a feminist would say about ONE THING. It depends on what the one thing is. The assumption that any all-male group or activity as inherently sexist against women is extremely common among feminists and all but unknown among non-feminists. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 10:55 PM |
| 4 | Bear Grylls creates show to 'examine modern masculinity'. Needs more women, say feminists.Be fair here, you can think something is sexist against women and not be a feminist. Certainly, but the assumption that any all-male group or activity is misogynistic simply by nature of being all-male is specifically feminist. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 10:47 PM |
| 13 | Man fights child support, claiming that he was rapedThis sort of thing is the primary reason I support paternal legal surrender: The alternative is endorsing a system where male rape victims are legally forced into years of servitude by their rapists. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 02:43 AM |
| 2 | John Markley nails the objections to "Nice Guys" for what they are. (via SYABM)Hey, thanks. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/14 11:28 PM |
| 8 | Face it guys, we'd be better off without you [the guardian].I get that that's how it is today, but it doesn't answer my question. If women really were to create their own society, wouldn't they at least try to do the dirty work? If you took a bunch of women at random and made them fend for themselves, sure. The subset of women who talk about how useless men are, I'm not so sure- their beliefs don't really make much sense unless you assume (which, since non-elite men are only dimly visible to most feminists, I'm sure many of the do) that the amenities of … | /r/MensRights | 21/04/14 12:33 AM |
| 5 | [Xpost from r/Feminism] " 'But What About False Rape Accusations' is a good litmus test" - Protecting the innocent? Ain't nobody got time for that!Here's a litmus test I find useful. If someone habitually refers to men as "dudes," or "bros," or "dudebros," while discussing any serious issue, they're almost certainly not worth rationally engaging with. They also have no right to expect any sort of civility, any more than a man who habitually addressed women as "bitch" or "cunt" or "sugartits" would. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/14 11:27 PM |
| 5 | CBS reporter says White House knew 77 cent wage gap claim false and part of a deliberate strategy aimed at the November electionI think the atheist part has more to do with invoking "internet nerd" stereotypes than anything else- the theological equivalent of the fedoras we apparently all wear, basically. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/14 04:07 AM |
| 1 | New Statesman | “No platform” was once reserved for violent fascists. Now it's being used to silence debateI thought it seemed pretty clear from the article- she laments the change from the good old days, when "no platform" was being used against people she found odious, and complains that some folks are now using it against different targets instead. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/14 06:47 PM |
| 10 | Attempting suicide after bullying over My Little Pony, 11 year-old Michael Morones suffered extensive brain damage. He is on the road to recovery, but it doesn't look good.Oh, for Christ's sake. "Strawman" does not mean "a real, common phenomenon I find it inconvenient to admit the existence of," no matter how much feminists use the term that way. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/14 07:27 AM |
| 3 | New Statesman | “No platform” was once reserved for violent fascists. Now it's being used to silence debateSo Sarah Ditum is a fan of silencing opposing viewpoints who's started squealing now that it's being done to someone she likes instead of someone she despises. What a whiny, hypocritical dirtbag. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/14 07:12 AM |
| 2 | The MRM Makes Me SadFeminist events are interrupted by men with ill-will all the time, "Men" are not an ideological group. "Feminists" are not a gender. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/14 11:37 PM |
| 0 | Canada does not have a single shelter for male victims of domestic violence. Today, I'm going to start a major effort to have that changed. O, and I'm never going to troll again.The ugly-aspergers loser guy. So you're the one who's been horning in on my action. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/14 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?This is a shame. I used to really like Wheaton, but I guess he's made it pretty clear how he feels about people like me. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/14 06:59 AM |
| 2 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?You might want to be careful around mirrors for the next few hours. Just saying. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 11:46 PM |
| 8 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?LOL at all of us teenage, pot-smoking, atheist strong conservatives. Well, of course. Teenagers are well-known for their intense interest in the inequities of the family court system. Just flip through an issue of Seventeen some time, it's practically all they talk about. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?To be fair, knowledge of something's creator can emotionally color the experience of what they've created for some people. Watching a video can become a very different experience if it's accompanied by the knowledge that the creator despises you. This is probably especially true in the case of an Internet personality like Wil Wheaton- people don't just like specific things he's done, they like him, and that's a big part of the appeal for individual things he does. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 11:36 PM |
| 15 | Not new research but worth a mention here - Testosterone leads to fairness not aggression!I find it especially interesting that women who thought they'd been given testosterone when they'd actually taken the placebo actually did become more aggressive and selfish. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Study: Circumcision Benefits Outweigh the Risks. "Male circumcision is the principle equivalent to childhood vaccination."In principle, the equivalent to a circumcision would be preventative appendectomy (the removal of perfectly healthy tissue on the grounds of potential health-risks) Preventative masectomy would probably be a closer comparison. (And frankly makes a lot more medical sense, if we're going to be cutting off pieces of children's bodies because they pose a potential health risk.) | /r/MensRights | 14/04/14 06:29 AM |
| 4 | Feminists on gaming site discuss failed MRA demographics survey (from yesterday)Doesn't men that some things for white men won't suck, just as some things suck for women, but overall men have fewer things to complain about The way you treat "men" and "white men" as interchangeable is... interesting. And depressingly typical. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/14 05:29 AM |
| 2 | Male taxi driver raped than stabbed by a woman, look at the wording used to describe the attackI think more news articles about rape should lead off with a description of which attractive celebrity the perpetrator most resembles, like this one does. "A man with the ruggedly masculine jawline of a young Rock Hudson has been charged..." | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 04:15 AM |
| 4 | Female Privilege Is Real, And We Need To Talk About It (Like Adults)Nowadays fedoras are often associated with socially awkward, geeky males who want to look distinctive but aren't up to speed on modern mainstream fashions. Outspoken online feminists, contrary to the propaganda about opposing traditional gender expectations and the shaming that enforces them, tend to intensely despise guys like that. Claiming MRAs wear fedoras is just a way of saying "Nyaah, nyaah, MRAs are nerds!" If it were 30 years ago, feminists would be claiming that MRAs wore pocket protec… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Female privilege is being able to talk about gender issues without being called a "Crying Diaper Man-Baby"Comment I left: This entire article is a hypocritical exercise in gender policing. Walker Hansen attacks Mark Saunders men for being unmanly (“diaper man-baby,” etc.) and ridicules him by portraying Saunders as, heaven forbid, CRYING- because there's nothing more contemptible and ridiculous than a crying man, am I right? Pussies and women cry, not real men. If you took the most macho, dick-swinging high school bully you could find and had him take a women's studies course, this article is what y… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Female privilege is being able to talk about gender issues without being called a "Crying Diaper Man-Baby"Beat me to the punch. It's like a feminist insulting a non-feminist woman by calling her a "hairy bulldyke" and then upbraiding her for engaging in unwomanly activities like discussing politics when she should be making sandwiches instead. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 09:47 PM |
| 6 | Another biased businessinsider article claims /r/mensrights is home to "some of the most sexist men on the web"That's the most hilariously inept attack on us I've seen in a while. If some guy saying that female tennis players are overpaid relative to their skill and viewership is your poster boy for the claim that this subreddit's commenters are "some of the most sexist men on the web," misogyny must be the meekest, mildest, most harmless form of prejudice to ever exist. Feminist groups should disband and refocus their efforts on real social evils, like the bigotry and oppression faced by Xbox owners and… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Why Do So Many Leftists Want Sex Work to Be the New Normal? (Nice to know I am not only leftist who disagrees with this article)But this is The Nation, which is all about the Progressive Left (as opposed to the Liberal Left). The Progressive Left are all about technocracy and a state-managed society. Someone- I think it was Roderick Long- suggested calling this segment the "aristocratic Left," which I think is rather fitting. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 01:08 AM |
| 3 | How do you respond to people bashing MRA's?In response to that comment you link (or others like it), you might respond with something like: "So the average Republican think men and boys being raped and abused by women is a common and serious issue? And that pressuring men to follow traditional standards of being a 'real man' is actually a manipulative means of exploiting and brutalizing them? Which prominent, influential Republicans talk about American men's lives being used up and thrown away in 'illicit, imperialist wars?'" Probably wo… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/14 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Girl bullies boy despite his pleas that she stop, so after repeated warnings, he chokes her out.Exactly. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/14 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Serious question: why is the Mens Rights Movement so opposed to feminism?"How come I can say 'I hate you' to a friend scot free as a joke, Because they can say it back to me as a joke, if they wish. I don't jokingly insult my friends and then pitch a self-righteous fit if they repay me in my own coin. Bullies and abusers act that way, not friends. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/14 10:26 PM |
| 2 | [META] Disappointed in the actions of the communityYou can see this as the sidebar now reads "...racism, serophobia, or sexism of any kind..." You may be reading too much into the change. People people of the /r/lgbt mods' idelogical bent usually deny that anything done to a male can actually count as sexism. For them to change "misogyny" to "sexism" is no change at all; it merely gives the appearance of inclusion. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/14 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Great anti-circumcision image from Intact Houston, via Just SmithThink of it this way. If you're uncircumcised and, as an adult, wish that you were circumcised, that option is still available to you. But if you're circumcised and wish you hadn't been, it's too late- the choice has already been made for you and can't be undone. Leaving children intact keeps the decision in the hands of the person affected by it. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 07:10 PM |
| 14 | Great anti-circumcision image from Intact Houston, via Just SmithAt any rate, I know that if it were put off until the guy could make the decision, I know I'd sure as hell say no. Which is a very good reason not to do it to a child. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Found: "Regrettably, the most vocal advocates for male rape victims tend to be Men’s Rights Activists" - Well excuse us, guyIt is regrettable, and you why? It's regrettable that a movement that's basically a few websites and couple hundred angry folks on the internet has made making more noise about male victims than a global movement of millions of people, backed up by millions and millions of dollars, that has had a near-monopoly on the subject of sexual violence for decades. That's incredibly fucking sad. If feminists don't like the fact that MRAs are the most vocal advocates on this issue, they're free to take th… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Serious question: why is the Mens Rights Movement so opposed to feminism?I can only speak of my experiences as a male feminist, but I've never been made to feel ashamed of my manhood or have been told that I have no grievances. I can't imagine someone identifying as a card-carrying SRSter would assert those grievances very vigorously. It's counterproductive to punish compliance. I say this as a card-carrying SRSter-- because of my personal experiences, I may be entirely misinterpreting genuine hate. Highly plausible. It's not unusual for people to internalize other p… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Let's discuss why the MHRM should support Pro-ChoiceThe Church now holds that ensoulment happens at conception, yes- the earlier doctrine was based on the influence of Aristotle, who thought that human fetuses developed a rational soul around 40 (if male) or 80 (female) days after conception. It's of mostly historical interest now, but I bring it up because opposition to abortion is not as dependent on the issue of souls or the humanity of the fetus as you might think. (The strength of the anti-abortion movement in its present from strongly depen… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 12:14 AM |
| 28 | I'm getting real tired of the tone in the MR subreddit.And the other was that this thread was full of bitter people whose main focus was to highlight cases in which men were treated unfairly and not do much else. What else would our main focus be? It's a men's rights subreddit. "Men being treated unfairly" is the reason the men's rights movement exists. First step towards progress is greater awareness and understanding of the existence and gravity of the issues discussed here. Looking over the front page all I ever see is "Female does X to male. Get… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/14 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Targeting conservative organizations as a strategySo you think there are leftists who will choose MRM over feminism? There obviously are, since some of them are already regular posters here. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/14 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss why the MHRM should support Pro-ChoiceThe case against abortion is invariably based in some sort of "the soul is placed in the embryo at the point of conception", which is both scientifically unproven (when you can prove a soul's existence in a lab environment, call me) and invariably based on some sort of Aristotelian Essentialism in epistemology (i.e. the soul as the "essence of human-ness"). This isn't always the case. Most modern pro-lifers believe in something like this, I agree, but traditional Catholic doctrine has long been … | /r/MensRights | 06/04/14 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Feminist Rape Culture: Statutory EditionTo be fair, a disproportionately large amount of pro-mens rights activity seems to come from Canada, as well. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/14 05:05 AM |
| 3 | Psych book. Second sentence.Your a fucking idiot. Priceless. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Psych book. Second sentence.And yes men do get raped, but it is a true statement to say more women than men do get raped and it is also true to say that men are more often than not the rapist. Even if we stipulate that these are both true, that does not make the claim that "rape is an act almost exclusively committed by males" true. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Psych book. Second sentence.And who do you think is raping those men in prison? Correct Today I learned that black people in the United States actually aren't more likely to be victims of murder than white people, because when "your own kind" does it to you it doesn't count. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Jezebel: Objectifying Olympic athletes is horrible... uhhh, except for when they're men. (xpost from /r/tumblrinaction)Thirdly, generalizing an entire movement, that's just as bad as what misandrists do to men, and just as bad as what most people think of when they hear MRA. No, they're not even close, unless you think saying "I hate liberals/conservatives/libertarians/communists/fascists/etc." is just as bigoted as saying things like "I hate black people." | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 01:11 AM |
| 3 | My Criminal Justice teacher insists that legally, a man cannot be raped, and that it is merely "sexual assault" when the victims is male.Unfortunately, it may well be true, depending on where you live. How did he present this information- did he portray the distinction as reasonable? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:41 AM |
| 7 | This article on "rationalwiki" about misandry is at least disturbing"Rational Wiki" is basically the leftist answer to Conservapedia. It's to be expected. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:39 AM |
| 10 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?Of course feminism is incompatible with what is talked about here if you brand feminism with the worst of the worst tumblr feminists. Or the most influential feminist academics and scholars, or the most popular feminist commentators and activists, or major mainstream feminist organizations. Unless you want to claim that Mary Daly is actually just an obscure nobody who somehow managed to get statements like "It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual int… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:27 AM |
| 9 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?MR only exists because feminism went too damn far. I disagree. Feminism didn't go too far, it didn't go nearly far enough. It basically accepts sexist traditional attitudes- the focus on women's victimhood, helplessness, moral goodness, and right to demand sympathy and and protection against male power, invulnerability, wickedness, and disposibility- tweaks a few details here and there, and repackages them as "progressive." | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:15 AM |
| 7 | It’s Shit Like this: Feminist Professor Mercer, did you argue that child sexual abuse isn’t real?Is there a way of confirming that this is indeed Professor Mercier? I see no reason to doubt it, but I'd like to be sure. This is sick shit, and Mercier is hardly some angry kid with a Tumblr account. If that's really her, she should become the poster girl for the movement to create men's groups on campus. Big Red is just another loud-mouthed sociopath; Mercier was the 2012 president of the Canadian Philosophical Association. This is what the feminist establishment men and boys are supposed to h… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/14 12:35 AM |
| 5 | "I laughed when I heard him scream"If the point of your comments was to change the view of someone who doesn't quite agree (/u/raesmond[1] didn't seem very disrespectful) then you failed. raesmond claimed that "Saying circumcision counts as genital mutilation is an insult to anyone who has actually suffered genetal mutilation." That's a pretty far cry from "doesn't quite agree." | /r/MensRights | 02/04/14 01:54 AM |
| 8 | "I laughed when I heard him scream"I had ear surgery when I was a toddler that I don't remember, nor did I consent to. Am I a victim of ear surgery? If the surgery consisted of cutting off your earlobes for no particular reason, certainly. But it probably didn't, which is why comparing routine infant circumcision to procedures done to treat an actual medical problem doesn't work as an analogy. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/14 01:44 AM |
| 7 | "I laughed when I heard him scream". Logically a victim is someone who feels victimized. Growing up, I had a "friend" who I eventually discovered was stealing from me. I was pretty upset when I finally found out. But even if I hadn't been- if I'd cared for him so much that I was willing to let it go, or wrote it off as youthful foolishness, or had become a monk indifferent to material goods, or whatever- I'd still be a victim of theft. Defining victimization according to the (alleged) victim's subjective response rather than obje… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/14 01:35 AM |
| 6 | "I laughed when I heard him scream"I dare say the majority, of cut men live happy, full lives where they enjoy sex and don't feel the need to harbor any sort of animosity toward others for something that is a non-issue to them (to THEM, don't go crazy). Except it's not "to them" when someone comes swaggering into one of these conversations to announce, "My dick is awesome, so you should be fine with involuntary circumcision, your own included." Which is what almost invariably precedes the "attacks." We're talking about a large se… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/14 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Honey Badger Radio: Rape CultureIt's because she's a poor researcher pushing a radical feminist agenda. I'm not saying those don't exist. But are we just going to pretend that all feminists are representatives of all aspects of feminism? I'm going to "pretend" that the scholar whose work is by far the one most frequently cited by feminists on the subject of rape is probably reasonably representative of feminism. And until this supposed silent of majority of feminists who don't agree with her definitions or the warped statistic… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Honey Badger Radio: Rape CultureYou're using male victims to push your own antifeminism ideology. You don't actually care about the issue, you just want to use them as bullets in your gun. You're the reason male rape is treated the way it is. So when Mary Koss decided decades ago that female-on-male rape didn't count when she was doing the studies about rape that are still routinely cited today, it was because she foresaw that someday critics of feminism would reference male victims while criticizing feminism? When the misandr… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Popped up on my feed today. I can't believe how dogmatic this guy is...You've got those reversed. /r/feminisms is the radfem subreddit, /r/feminism without the S is the mainstream one. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 12:13 AM |
| 2 | (x/post from /r/videos)Why Rape Is Sincerely Hilarious.I'd like to be hopeful, but in my experience feminists will often acknowledge and sympathize with male victims when they are specifically brought to their attention, while otherwise maintaining and promoting a worldview that denies their existence or relevance. They'll still happily claim that female-on-male rape is incredibly rare by citing statistics that define forced penetration as something other than rape, still endorse slogans about "teaching men not to rape" and the like, still talk abou… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 12:06 AM |
| 1 | "Why rape is hilarious." This video is on r/feminism and doing well. That kind of dumps on the consensus I've seen this sub make about them.It makes it seem as though the goal here isn't as much about equality as it is about discrediting feminist. Whatever the virtues of some individual feminists, existing feminism as a movement- as a force that influences legislation, influences culture and academia, and dominates discussion on gender- is overwhelmingly hostile to us and our concerns. Discrediting it is a necessary step towards equality. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 11:42 PM |
| 6 | Girls tortured autistic boy at construction site in Townsville--(new case of abuse against autistic boy)If he were your son, he'd benefit more from having a father who was there to take care of him than a father rotting in prison. Not that I don't understand the impulse. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 11:29 PM |
| 15 | Man severely beaten for speaking out about his penis amputation during ritual male circumcisionWhy do you immediately have to turn this into competition? If that's actually something you have a problem with, why don't you take it up with the folks who are so determined to minimize the issue of male circumcision, instead of bitching at people for having the temerity to complain about that minimization? | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Feminists: "Tired of Talking To Men"Lowering himself to tumblr feminist level would involve saying that all women are scum, or responding to an article about female victims of domestic violence with "lolz female tears," or the like. Making an unkind generalization about a political movement doesn't even come close. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 12:13 AM |
| 4 | Never really been a user here but here's my singular interaction with the fantastically ran /r/againstmensrights subreddit.It's at least as gender-specific as "whore" and far more so than "fat" or "ugly." | /r/MensRights | 23/03/14 04:17 AM |
| 1 | MRAI don't think someone who apparently thinks that only straight white cisgender men can be raped or beaten by their spouse or wrongly accused of a crime or stereotyped as violent and sex-obsessed is worth engaging with. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/14 12:51 AM |
| 6 | I was reading through an AMA about a guy who was raped by a woman and something struck me about the rage inducing negative commentsIf you've been raised in a "Man up!" sort of mentality, as almost all men have to at least some degree, to acknowledge yourself as someone who could be raped by a woman- and genuinely harmed by it- is to declare yourself defective as a man. Taking female-on-male rape seriously means taking male vulnerability and weakness seriously. If you're a man, that means taking your own seriously-and most men have been raised to think that their value as human beings depends on not having those traits. This… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/14 12:03 AM |
| 6 | Why do people look down on /r/mensrightsMen expressing pain or admitting vulnerability arouses deep disgust in a lot of people. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 11:48 PM |
| 8 | Why do people look down on /r/mensrightsYou have to wonder how many people's sole exposure to the MRM is actually to the straw men created to smear it. I think this is one huge reason. Rule I go by: If they mention fedoras or complaints about the "friendzone," you immediately that their opinion of the MRM was formed without any actual knowledge of it. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 11:45 PM |
| 1 | No prison time for teacher who raped 6th grade boyYou caught me. That's the only way I possibly could have found out about a case that appears in the first page of results in a Google search for "multiple sclerosis prison." Until /r/Unconfidence posted, I'd been silently fuming for hours at my inability to counteract your seemingly impregnable arguments. Meanwhile, in the real world, I came earlier this evening to see if there had been any more comments since last night. I occasionally do things other than stare at Reddit while pounding the F5 … | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 02:11 AM |
| 1 | No prison time for teacher who raped 6th grade boyMRA jumps on any time that a woman, particularly women rapists, receive negligible prison sentences compared to men. Yes, this is a problem, but the article in question has a very unique set of circumstances he ignored in his title, which show that the court made the right decision, assuming they would make the same decision if a man were involved. Growing pot is a sufficiently heinous crime to imprison a man with MS, so I feel reasonably confident in predicting that it probably wouldn't be acce… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 12:07 AM |
| 10 | No prison time for teacher who raped 6th grade boyMen with multiple sclerosis have been imprisoned for far lesser crimes. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/14 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Do men's rights have to be oppositional?Ultimately, we need to to address the problems facing men as the problems they are rather than trying to blame women for the problems we have. We don't. You're the one whose ideology is a cheap knock-off of Marxism that can't take one sex's problems seriously without blaming the entire opposite sex, not us. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 02:22 AM |
| 0 | Boy bullied at school for having a My Little Pony bag, school blames the victim and bans him from bringing the bag to school. (x-post /r/news)You are the one showing a lack of empathy, long winded speeches, not recognizing the feelings of others, and reacting inappropriately, and I have asperger's? Someone is projecting a little bit. I'm very much on your side of this argument, but your indignation towards school bullying rings hollow when your response to someone being a horrible asshole is, "You're a shitty person, just like people with Aspergers!" | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Boy bullied at school for having a My Little Pony bag, school blames the victim and bans him from bringing the bag to school. (x-post /r/news)Bullying isn't the only way for that drive to be expressed, though. When I was a kid, my friends and I would wrestle, duel with sticks, throw stuff at each other, trade disgusting insults, etc. Aggression is natural and inevitable, but that's not the same thing as cruelty. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 12:53 AM |
| 3 | Boy bullied at school for having a My Little Pony bag, school blames the victim and bans him from bringing the bag to school. (x-post /r/news)And don't tell me that bronies aren't like that, if a group is known for something by the general population, then there is clearly a large enough group of people participating in that. Why are you wasting your time with /r/MensRights , then? Men are "known" for being all sorts of awful shit. There are almost certainly more people who "know" that men are nasty unfeeling, disposable brutes than there are people who know what a brony even is. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 12:30 AM |
| 2 | E-mail RAINN on Saturday, March 15, 2014 to stop the erasure of male rape victimsDone. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Amanda Marcotte says military "rape victim" may be lying.If "the same rank" and "not enormously different in rank" mean the same thing, sure. The military is a situation where you're not free to quit at will and your employer has its own legal system with the power to inflict criminal penalties. The potential for exploitation by authority figures is qualitatively worse than the great majority of civilian scenarios, and the potential coercive power of a brigadier general over a mere captain is vast. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/14 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Girl sneaks boy into her room, then lies to father that she doesn't know him; father argues with boy and kills himThat's the big difference between American culture and Canada/Europe. No, it isn't, unless Canada and the nations of Europe have abolished their militaries and don't allow their domestic law enforcement to escalate beyond harsh language. I don't think killing is ever justified. It's simply impossible to draw the line between justified killing, and immoral killing. Someone has to make that determination, and people are fallible. To whatever extent this argument works, it works against any use of … | /r/MensRights | 15/03/14 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Girl sneaks boy into her room, then lies to father that she doesn't know him; father argues with boy and kills himYou Americans really need to get over your obsessions with guns. They serve one and only one purpose - to kill people. Killing people is the antithesis to civil society. OK, provided all law enforcement officials are permanently disarmed and forbidden from enforcing gun laws with anything more powerful than their bare fists. You presumably don't think a civil society's legal restrictions on gun ownership should be enforced by summary police executions, after all. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/14 12:03 AM |
| 1 | "How Sad Young Douchebags Took Over Modern Britain" - another journalist has an opinion on what "real men" are and what "masculinity" means.So... a "douchebag" is basically any heterosexual male who works out and looks better than Clive Martin? That's what I'm taking away from this. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/14 11:57 PM |
| 8 | A documentary that explores sexual assault of men? There's a kickstarter for that.The creator talks about the project more in this post on her own blog: Why I'm making A Film About Rape Based on what she says there, I'm cautiously optimistic. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/14 11:17 PM |
| 2 | What positive impact has your involvement with Men's Rights Advocacy had on your life?It's helped me accept that the way I was treated as a child wasn't my fault, or something I somehow deserved. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/14 02:11 AM |
| 3 | I was a boy that was "taught not to rape" by his mother, let me tell you exactly why and how that has harmed me throughout my life.Probably the same way I feel being taught how not to get beaten up, robbed, or murdered, I'd guess. Like most men of my generation, I actually was given extensive instructions about how to not get raped as a child- all those lessons about "stranger danger" that were supposed to protect us from the child molesters we were told lurked under every rock. Are grown women too frail to endure a burden nobody hesitated to place on me when I was 7 years old? In any case, I'm not sure why you think being … | /r/MensRights | 13/03/14 01:15 AM |
| 4 | I was a boy that was "taught not to rape" by his mother, let me tell you exactly why and how that has harmed me throughout my life.Equal numbers of boys and girls think this yes, but I'm not solely targeting boys here. Feminism and the "teach not to rape" movement that you entered this thread to defend sure as hell are. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 07:04 AM |
| 3 | I...don't believe this.Comment I left, reproduced here because I don't expect it to be published: Most male victims are raped by women. Would an article about protecting our sons from rape that spoke of the need to raise young girls with the message “don’t rape anyone, cunt" be welcome at the Good Men Project? Or are only male children-including those who are rape victims themselves- fair game? | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 06:22 AM |
| 2 | I...don't believe this.I was a bit flummoxed when I encountered that article- I'm not a big fan of GMP, especially since Tom Matlack was hounded out, but that sort of hateful bigotry towards male children was worse than what I'd come to expect. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 06:05 AM |
| 11 | Just Smith shreds misandrist BS about the "friend zone" (scroll down)Relevant here because the frequent villification of men in these situations is directly related to bigoted, dehumanizing stereotypes of men and boys as unfeeling, oversexual brutes. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 01:28 AM |
| 1 | A quote by Steven Pinker, explaining why Feminists, especially AMR and SRS, hate Men's Rights Activists so much.Because "strategy" means deliberate planning to achieve a particular goal. That's just not how normal people interact with each other. Normal people don't approach other people to ask them out, and try to seem appealing to the other person when they do so? Normal people don't do things that they hope others will find attractive, in order to elicit their interest? The only adults who don't employ "sexual strategy" in that sense are celibates and characters in porno movies. And even leading that a… | /r/MensRights | 08/03/14 02:49 AM |
| 1 | A quote by Steven Pinker, explaining why Feminists, especially AMR and SRS, hate Men's Rights Activists so much.I'd grant that it can mean that (though I find it a terrible term), Why? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/14 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Anita Sarkeesian stole artwork for commercial use: An Open Letter by the Artist she plagiarizedI am sure there are a lot better stories that could be upvoted and shared that actually promote helping men. At the time of my comment, the top post in /r/MensRights is about domestic violence against men in the United Kingdom, with +463 votes. There is no shortage of such discussions here; the existence of posts about Sarkeesian has not crowded them out. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/14 01:22 AM |
| 2 | How To Be A Tumblr Feminist (Crash Course)Tumblr feminists ≠ women. One is a subset of an ideological movement, whereas the other is a gender roughly half the human race belongs to. This is not difficult. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/14 07:08 AM |
| 4 | The video's description: "I'd much rather see a discussion about how we get men to understand consent and stop being creepers"So when I tell my child to be careful as he walks to elementary school alone, am I missing the fact that I'm not addressing child molesters or kidnappers? This is what absolutely boggles my mind about what so many feminists say on this issue. They're literally outraged by the prospect of expecting women to take as much responsibility for their own safety as elementary school children are routinely expected to do. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/14 01:57 AM |
| 20 | "The [Ukrainian] Defence Ministry was ordered to stage a call-up of reserves, meaning theoretically all men up to 40 in a country with universal male conscription": Another example for the next time you see someone saying "But the draft isn't an issue anymore!""Ukraine is game to you? How about I take your little board and smash it!" | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 06:43 AM |
| 17 | PZ Myers explains the lengths he has to go to with each and every student to avoid false claims of rape that he says are extremely damaging. (What's his mens rights redditor handle?)I was also subject to accusations of harassment, once upon a time. A female student came into my lab when I was alone, unhappy about an exam grade, and openly threatened me — by going public with a story about a completely nonexistent sexual encounter right there. Zoom, I was right out the door at that instant; asked a female grad student in the lab next door to sit with the student for a bit, and went straight to the chair of the department to explain the situation. I had to work fast, because … | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 05:05 AM |
| 7 | [X-Post from /r/Funny] Can you imagine the outrage if the genders were reversed? Suddenly I doubt this sexual assault would be seen as funnyWanting laws against sexual assault to be vigorously enforced is misogyny now? I sure hope nobody I love ever runs into you in a dark alley. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 02:36 AM |
| 1 | SOS-"No, I Will Not Take the Men's Rights Movement Seriously"I think the reasoning behind it is denying them page views (and thus ad revenue, since Jezebel is very much a commercial venture). There's never been any rule against posting something from the site as a text self-post or a screen capture. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 02:05 AM |
| 1 | #FGM and male #circumcision: time to confront the double standard #i2And guess what? If you also follow this, the non-US sources have been accused of being biased because circumcision is not common in many of the countries the non-US authors originated from. So the reverse argument is also true. That really doesn't follow. Everyone will try to defend and justify their own behavior; attacking others requires more motivation or incentive. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 01:11 AM |
| 1 | #FGM and male #circumcision: time to confront the double standard #i2So tell me, does this include not giving your kids vaccines, braces, or any other medical procedure that might "change" their bodies despite the possible health benefits? The chief alleged health benefit is reduced transmission of sexually transmitted diseases. if your week-old son is somehow in a position to benefit from that, you've got much bigger problems that should probably be addressed first. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 01:03 AM |
| 3 | #FGM and male #circumcision: time to confront the double standard #i2You are also wrong in that the modern form of male circumcision is not meant to dull the sexual pleasure of the child, nor is there a dearth of evidence to even support the assertion that it has that effect. That would certainly be news to the people who actually popularized the practice among Western gentiles in the 19th century. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/14 12:53 AM |
| 6 | "We both know you're broke with barely an income, so I assume you'll move back in with mommy and daddy - if they let you. LOL. You’re a broke, 30 year old manwhore who lives with his parents. And it's likely you’ll be without a job very soon. So lame."It all started when I stumbled upon his phone and found some very incriminating texts and pictures. For the record, I am no snooper. It’s just not my style. I was only curious, just wondering what he’d been up to. I'm not a cannibal, I'm just a person who eats human flesh. They're completely different! | /r/MensRights | 28/02/14 06:32 AM |
| 8 | Karen Straughan vs Naomi the brainwashed feminist. Full debate.The term "survivor" is preferred over "victim" by some people when discussing severely traumatic but nonlethal crimes like rape and child abuse as, basically, a way of asserting one's agency against the perpetrator and the pain they caused. Surviving is something you do, whereas a victim is defined by having things done to them. I don't think it necessarily elevates rape to the level of murder- it's not that unusual for people to use "survive" in a nonliteral way, to describe enduring great pain… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/14 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Islamic Extremists Kill at Least 29 Young Students – The Details Will Make Your Blood BoilAbout as much as I'm concerned about the fact that most female genital mutilation is performed by women. Not concerned about it enough to barge into conversations on the subject and try to use that fact to smear innocent victims of violence by association. You just can't stand the thought of anyone feeling sympathy for a male, can you? Even when he's completely innocent, even when he's a teenage boy who's been burned alive, God fucking forbid the conversation not revolve around how vile people l… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/14 03:26 AM |
| 5 | One of Feminism's favorite authors on how men are treated.Downvotes but no replies, anyone care to actually step up to the plate and answer my question? You blatantly misrepresented what Lessing said. You're not entitled to be treated like someone who came here to discuss an issue in good faith when you've made it very obvious that you're not. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/14 03:59 AM |
| 5 | One of Feminism's favorite authors on how men are treated.As a dude, I'm certainly no misandrist, so now you can say that you've met a feminist who isn't a misandrist! Internalized sexism isn't a thing? Also, I've rarely seen a feminist address a man as a "dude" in a context in which the word wasn't clearly intended to be belittling and insulting, so your claim reads a lot like, "As a bitch, I'm certainly no misogynist." | /r/MensRights | 23/02/14 03:30 AM |
| 3 | One of Feminism's favorite authors on how men are treated.If anything, the idea that men are 'expected to man up and deal with their own problems' comes from the competitive nature of male interaction. See, this sort of thing is precisely the problem- feminism endorses the traditional idea that women are morally superior but weak and ineffectual even in the act of claiming to denounce it. Women act to uphold gender norms like that all the time, just as men do. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/14 03:16 AM |
| 1 | One of Feminism's favorite authors on how men are treated.What he said about Doris Lessing is idiotic, but if the men's rights movement ever gets anywhere it's almost certainly not going to be by reaching out to dedicated feminists. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/14 02:58 AM |
| 8 | One of Feminism's favorite authors on how men are treated.Feminists themselves are conspicuously opposed to such "anachronistic" gendered language in almost every other case- they've always been at the forefront of pushing for gender-neutral terms. They consider that sort of thing important; if they continue to use a gendered term for their movement itself, it's clearly for a reason. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/14 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Women can't be sexistThe credibility of the cause suffers for their clouded judgement, especially when they suggest ridiculous things like women controlling more political power due to greater numbers, which is the top fucking comment right now. Said comment refers to votes, not numbers. Which are not without relevance in a country where the government is elected. You could reply that this is a ridiculously crude measure of which sex wields greater power, and I'd agree, but no more so than the more popular method of… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/14 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Women can't be sexistThe point that is being made here, which I, a male three-sport athlete and philosophy/poli-sci double major agree with, You know, feminist claims to be opposed to gender roles and "Patriarchy" and all that bad stuff would be more credible if feminist men didn't spend so much time bragging about how big and butch and macho they are. Systemic and institutional bias on a historical level and scale is the relevant dimension in this discussion. It doesn't work on that level, either, since the relativ… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/14 02:37 AM |
| 3 | Kansas spanking bill would allow teachers and parents to leave bruises (Relevant due to large gender differences in corporal punishment)On corporal punishment in schools: Boys are subjected to corporal punishment at much higher rates than girls: nationwide, boys make up 78.3 percent of those paddled, while girls make up 21.7 percent. Boys are paddled more than girls in all states that use corporal punishment. For instance, in Mississippi, 74.2 percent of those paddled in schools are boys, while in Texas, 78.7 percent of those paddled are boys | /r/MensRights | 18/02/14 11:53 PM |
| 2 | How anti-gay groups use 'Russian Facebook' to persecute LGBT peopleI gotta disagree. They are targeted for being gay not for being men, correct? They were targeted for being both. If they were targeted solely for being gay we'd see a comparable amount of violence against lesbians, and we don't. The stereotype the attackers are using to justify their violence- their conflation of homosexuals and pedophiles- is also specific to men, and based in misandrist beliefs about male sexuality being predatory and disgusting. Opponents of men's rights have done a very good… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/14 12:34 AM |
| 10 | How anti-gay groups use 'Russian Facebook' to persecute LGBT peopleRelevant to this sub since the most extreme manifestation of this- using social media to lure victims into traps where they are brutally beaten and abused- targets gay men specifically. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/14 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyWhat does the source of the money have to do with what I said? It would never occur to me to expect anyone outside the "community" to give a damn, either. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/14 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyThe women who are seeking these things would be seeking them anyway and just find this sector to be low hanging fruit. There is nothing special about the fact that they are exploiting this group of people -- quite literally, if you ignore them, they will go away. Honestly, whose fault is it that geek guys are fawning over them? STOP FUCKING DOING IT, THEN. Unless /u/YetAnotherCommenter is actually an avatar for some gender-spanning hive mind rather than a human being, he can't do this alone- oth… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/14 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyAnd attention, validation, et al are what they'd get from any sufficiently gullible men/group of men, so it in no way makes it exclusive to geeks so I am choosing to ignore those. Male geeks tend to be especially desperate and lacking in self-esteem. If someone is looking for a sufficiently gullible group of men, we're pretty ideal. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/14 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyYeah and if the community in question DIDN'T VALIDATE THAT PERCEPTION, they wouldn't get to do it. I've had people tell me that someone should break into my house and cut my throat because they didn't like a silly parody article I wrote on an obscure gaming website that probably had fewer viewers in its entire existence than Sarkesian's work gets in an average week. It never even occurred to me that anyone should have been indignant on my behalf for things like that. The idea there's anything pa… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/14 02:20 AM |
| 43 | Tulsa Woman Convicted Of Child Abuse Freed 10 Months Into 12-Year Prison SentenceI suppose it's relevance depends on whether you think a man who vaginally penetrated a toddler so forcefully that she nearly died would be likely to serve more than ten months in prison. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/14 01:56 AM |
| 37 | Tulsa Woman Convicted Of Child Abuse Freed 10 Months Into 12-Year Prison SentenceSophie was 19 months old and attending John Knox development center where [Meredith] Howard was a worker. Howard penetrated Sophie with such force, Sophie nearly bled to death on the way to the hospital, then had repeated surgeries - and they still don't know the long-term impact. Sophie's father, Matthew Stafford was shocked to learn that two years before Sophie's injury Howard had broken the leg of a 9-month-old boy at the Kirk of the Hills Mothers Day Out program where Howard was also a worke… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 09:40 PM |
| 9 | 'Betrayed': Male rape victims slam Oscar-nominated filmmakers of 'The Invisible War' over focus on womenI'd steer clear of the comments section, by the way, unless you have a strong stomach. Lots of attacks on the victims, including some barely-concealed feminist glee at the idea of men being raped and then further maltreated by society at large. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 09:26 PM |
| 9 | 'Betrayed': Male rape victims slam Oscar-nominated filmmakers of 'The Invisible War' over focus on women"We're being abandoned by (director) Kirby Dick. The guys feel betrayed," said Michael Matthews, a 20-year Air Force veteran who, in the movie, tells of his 1974 gang rape by three other airmen. The publicity campaign hawking the film — and its Academy Award candidacy — includes a website that shows the faces of six female victims of military sexual assault, and no male survivors of that crime, as well as formal screenings to which only female victims have been asked to attend, Matthews said. Na… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Male Survivors Of Incest And Sibling Sexual AbuseI was so young and confused; my sister had no trouble convincing me I’d be in more trouble than her, if our wretched secret was uncovered. She knew I was terrified of our psychotic father, and she wielded that knowledge against me. “Dad would kill you, if he knew what you just did,” she’d warn. “I’ll never tell on you though… You can trust me.” It wasn’t a question, but her eyes widened with anticipation for an answer… I didn’t have one. I remember being distracted, because my underwear felt str… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 04:35 AM |
| 4 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyIf someone is a fellow member of a subculture I belong to, especially a stigmatized one, I can let my guard down around them and be open about things in a way I would never feel comfortable doing with most people- without worrying about whether they're silently sneering at me, or will soon be regaling their friends with the story of the pathetic weirdo they met the other day, or will become less friendly to me in the future now that they know I'm one of those guys. This falls apart if members ca… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Proposition: Complaining About "Fake Geek Girls" Is Not MisogynyAre you fucking kiding me? How do you think CoD and Halo, probably the 2 most casual shooters in the industry became 2 of the biggest competitive games despite sucking horribly at it? They were available on consoles at a time when the genre was still mostly on PCs. I would also argue it's when fanboyisim for consoles went full retard and stopped being about specs and started being about "my console can beat up your console". I can remember console fanboy arguments stretching back to the late 198… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Moderator at /r/offmychest calls someone a dick after banning them for calling someone a cunt. Also sexism doesnt exist against men evidently.I feel like we spend too much time saying 'this WOMAN did THIS BAD THING' and not 'this woman did this bad thing, what can WE do about it?' The mod's gender has barely been mentioned. People in the chain of comments you're responding to have been going out of their way to refer to them in a gender-neutral fashion, in fact. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 02:41 AM |
| 6 | What issue is your highest priority as an MRA and why?Recognition of male victims of rape and abuse, and of female perpetrators. I had a pretty screwed up childhood. I was mistreated by adults of both sexes, but when it was a woman it hurt more. I was surrounded by the culture's assumption that women weren't cruel or uncaring or selfish the way men were, especially where a child was involved- so if even a woman treated me like garbage, I must have been so worthless that I somehow deserved it, right? It wasn't until encountering some writers from th… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/14 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Is "creep shaming" comparable to "slut shaming"?“Slut” and “creep” are a lot alike in that they're both very vague terms that lump broad swaths of behavior together. A “slut” can be: A woman whose sexual behavior is genuinely wrong and deserving of condemnation- cheating in relationships, irresponsibly spreading venereal diseases, being sexually assertive to the point of disrespecting other people's boundaries. A woman whose behavior is not wrong, but is stigmatized anyway- having sex responsibly and consensuully, expressing sexual interest w… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/14 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Is "creep shaming" comparable to "slut shaming"?And similarly, being "creepy" is often just being ugly or weird or unpopular. Like "slut," in popular usage it's a broad, vague term that blurs innocent and genuinely objectionable behaviors together. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/14 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Is "creep shaming" comparable to "slut shaming"?I think that shaming of "real" creeps isn't bad, because they're making someone uncomfortable with their actions. And some behaviors commonly described as "slutty" really are bad- spreading diseases around, betraying the trust of someone who cares about you, being sexually pushy or intrusive. Its what a lot of people would call a woman who behaved like the man in your story. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/14 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Is "creep shaming" comparable to "slut shaming"?OK. Saying something is wrong because red pillers believe it is like saying, "Ceaușescu believed in X. Ceaușescu is an ass and therefore x must be false." Godwin avoided. Now, do you have an actual rebuttal, as opposed to stupid Internet memes? | /r/MensRights | 14/02/14 02:47 AM |
| 3 | Is "creep shaming" comparable to "slut shaming"?He didn't "reduce" men and women to economic terms, he merely pointed out that economic principles are relevant here- as they to virtually every human activity, not just those that involve literal buying and selling. If someone said that drunk people tend to make poor decisions, is that creepily reducing people to chemical terms? | /r/MensRights | 14/02/14 02:38 AM |
| 1 | If I was walking past these signs, I would find them creepy. Also assumes that the streets are safe for men.You think that the majority of women you meet want to emotionally blacklist you? How would your mother feel about that statement? Or your sister, if you have one? Or your female teachers/professors/mentors? I have no desire to defend knowless' claim, so this is a more general point: If I were responding to a feminist making negative generalizations about men, it would never occur to me to respond by asking how her father, brothers, etc. would feel about her words, because I figure there's a not-… | /r/MensRights | 12/02/14 03:33 AM |
| 1 | If I was walking past these signs, I would find them creepy. Also assumes that the streets are safe for men.I think that you're responding to the over-board people on twitter or whatever, while I'm just talking about the signs in the post. You're projecting a face and agenda onto the signs that you despise, The signs say on the bottom that they're from a group called "Solidarity Against Patriarchy." They're not shy about announcing the sort of ideological background they're coming from, no projecting required. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/14 02:53 AM |
| 1 | If I was walking past these signs, I would find them creepy. Also assumes that the streets are safe for men.If you treat all the women like this, you will never wind up with anyone worthwhile. Plenty of women end up with men with attitudes like that. Plenty end up with men whose attitudes are much worse than that. Are none of these women "worthwhile?" | /r/MensRights | 12/02/14 02:32 AM |
| 2 | I have a lot of problems with this: "A French Film Showing Men What Being A Woman Feels Like Kinda Nails It (Video Slightly NSFW)" [X-post from /r/feminism]That would entail actually doing something to look after themselves, instead of just screaming that men aren't doing it for them even more than they already do. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/14 01:10 AM |
| 0 | The majority of child abuse is committed by women, mainly mothers.Popular stereotype is that child abuse is overwhelmingly committed by men. It's not "anti-woman" to point out evidence to the contrary. how can you bitch about the definition of rape then turn around and act like this generalization about child abuse which is no black and white issue somehow makes you a better person, seems blatantly hypocritical. There's no hypocrisy there. If we bitched about the definition of rape and then turned around and argued that beating or starving a child is only abus… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/14 01:36 AM |
| 2 | The majority of child abuse is committed by women, mainly mothers.The data is fairly meaningless because it's not per capita. It's meaningless if the question you're trying to answer is "Which sex is more innately evil," or something like that. It's very relevant to a number of questions important to actually helping abuse victims. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/14 01:24 AM |
| -1 | The majority of child abuse is committed by women, mainly mothers.Where did the OP draw the conclusion that mothers are more violent than fathers? | /r/MensRights | 11/02/14 01:16 AM |
| 9 | The majority of child abuse is committed by women, mainly mothers.I see no suggestion that he wants us to take his story as "evidence" of any larger societal trend. People tell personal stories in threads like this all the time- when you've faced a problem that is seldom acknowledged and often outright denied, discussions like these can be one of the few places where people feel comfortable talking about it. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/14 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Male victims, screening and victim-blamingAlly Fogg is hit-or-miss, but this is a good one. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/14 12:59 AM |
| 5 | Your suffering is "lesser" than mine, the same tired message, you matter lessI'm curious as to whether /u/Doomsayer189 's claimed opposition to male circumcision actually extends beyond token "I'm not in favor of it BUT" boilerplate prefacing criticism of people who actually take the issue seriously. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/14 01:20 AM |
| 5 | Artist Thought Women Would Show 'Empathy' for Sculpture of Man in Underwear on College Campus...That was one of the things that struck me about a lot of the reactions to this. The man depicted by the sculpture is a pitiable figure- he's almost completely naked out in the snow, for Pete's sake! His facial expression looks extremely disoriented, and his arms are weakly extending as if he were unsuccessfully reaching for something to cling to- he's in a very bad situation and seems ill-equipped to help himself. And yet people think themselves very enlightened for looking at that and seeing on… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/14 12:37 AM |
| 3 | Feminist journalist: "I can almost imagine MRAs desperately willing for more men to get raped so they can instrumentalise them."Something I've been wondering: Do feminists like this actually believe their own claims that MRAs only bring up male victims as a way to attack/distract from female victims? On the one hand, I find it hard to imagine that even they are truly that ignorant. On the other hand, people often assume that other people's motivations are basically similar to their own, so it sort of makes sense that the kind of feminists who say shit like this would genuinely believe that nobody actually cares about rap… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/14 12:08 AM |
| 2 | The unhinged reaction to the sleepwalking man statue -- and they actually wonder why so few people identify as feminists?I'm honestly curious what the reaction would be to a similar statue of a black guy in his underpants. More hysteria? Less hysteria? More hysteria but less willingness to admit to it? | /r/MensRights | 07/02/14 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Sandra Fluke to run for California state SenateI'm forced to buy car insurance, even though I'm a very careful driver who has never gotten into an accident. You're required to buy liability insurance to operate a motor vehicle on public roads in most jurisdictions because you're engaging in an activity where you have the potential to cause serious harm to third parties. The insurance protects your potential victim from getting screwed if you can't afford the damages you owe them after causing an accident. It's not at all analogous to health … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/14 12:16 AM |
| 7 | Feminists tearing down posters advertising Thursday's talk by GirlwriteswhatI think in addition to people like this, I think there are plenty who attack the MRM in order to appear more "manly" (by rejecting that men are in any way underprivileged or denied rights) or to pander to women. Absolutely. A lot of male feminist confessions of "privilege" are strikingly similar to what a guy bragging about how macho he is would say- I don't need to fear the violence or aggression of others, my sex life is admired and not shamed, people automatically respect me and defer to me. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/14 04:27 AM |
| 3 | "Kill all men" is empowering. "Kill all black men" is racist.You didn't answer my question. But, since it was pretty transparently the standard feminist tactic of reframing examples of male victimization as examples of male evil, to taint the victims by association and so discourage sympathy for them, it doesn't really matter. And who specified prisoners of war? Empirical_accuracy said "Killing, selectively, all the men." You display the same mentality as the people behind many of these sorts of massacres- you see "men" and simply equate it with "combatan… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/14 04:47 AM |
| 1 | 'Man Up' seminar urges men to help stop violence against womenI've never committed violence against a woman. My first childhood memory is a woman committing violence against me. Jackson Katz and his ilk can go straight to Hell. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/14 12:44 AM |
| 2 | 'Man Up' seminar urges men to help stop violence against women"I think we should try and stop people being violent against women" Wow, got to your first lie in the very first sentence. To quote the first two sentences of the article: Don't call it "violence against women." Jackson Katz says call it "men's violence against women." How do you feel about a Jackson Katz-style campaign to fight "violence against white people" in Australia, or another white-majority industrialized nation? What about "black violence against white people"? You don't hate white peo… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/14 12:43 AM |
| 3 | "Kill all men" is empowering. "Kill all black men" is racist.Why is the (presumed) sex of the perpetrators relevant here? | /r/MensRights | 03/02/14 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Open question to MRAs: Why do you oppose feminism?I'm pretty sure she never considered herself a feminist. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 06:18 AM |
| 3 | Open question to MRAs: Why do you oppose feminism?But judging the entire movement by a small group of uneducated radicals is similar to judging all men by a small group of rapists! No, it's bloody not. "Feminist" is not a sex. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Guardian SJW Gender-Polices, Nerd-Shames and Plays The "Man-Child" CardGood job bringing in links like this, /u/YetAnotherCommenter - this sort of thing exposes the rancid heart of what we're fighting better than some radfem's shriekings about how all sex is rape ever could. (Not that the latter isn't worth pointing out, too.) | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Guardian SJW Gender-Polices, Nerd-Shames and Plays The "Man-Child" CardWhat a disgustingly vile paragraph, the person who wrote this is also a white male, how can you seemingly loathe yourself that much. He doesn't hate himself. He's head-over-heels in love with himself- by preaching about how vile white men are, he's boasting that he isn't like that, he's one of the good ones. It's a way of saying "I'm awesome, other men are trash" while pretending to be humble. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Guardian SJW Gender-Polices, Nerd-Shames and Plays The "Man-Child" CardYeah, it's pretty obvious that it's not geek culture this guy hates, its just geeks qua geeks- Tony Stark is a "man-child" for being insufficiently suave and wasting his time with lame dork stuff like building and inventing things. This is male feminism as glorified macho bullying in almost undiluted form; if he said white male geeks were "faggots," it wouldn't have seemed that out of place. Honestly, I've come to the conclusion that most outspoken feminist men- not neccesarily the rank and file… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 02:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do the same people who rage about the sexual objectification of women almost without exception use "virgin" to denigrate their detractors?Put what in terms their opponents can understand? | /r/MensRights | 02/02/14 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Woman dumps three babies in a dumpster, two of them die, only given 18 month sentence.Hell, "woman" is an insult to a man, while women are told positively to "man up". Yeah, there's nothing most women find more flattering than being told how manly they are. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/14 05:27 AM |
| 5 | Manboobz - dumbest comment ever?A lot of feminists strike me as the sort of people who would respond to the news that her sister-in-law had been brutally murdered with a self-righteous tirade explaining that the REAL tragedy is how damned annoying it is for her to hear her nephews and nieces whining and carrying on about how much they miss their mommy. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/14 03:35 AM |
| 1 | The Last Time I Hit A WomanThat was fantastic. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/14 02:16 AM |
| -1 | Some reasons Why being born male is not a "privilege"Summing up the privileges of females, doesn't prove that males don't have any. It proves that such privilege is not unidirectional, which is enough to refute "male privilege" as the term is typically used. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/14 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Male, Sexually abused by a female as a child.Thank you for sharing this. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/14 01:35 AM |
| 10 | "The Men's Rights movement is one of the most disapointing examples of wasted potential I've ever seen…" - same oldYeah, I know there's some radfems out there, but saying that SRS is representative of feminism is like saying TRP is representative of MRAs. People like Hugo Schwyzer, Amanda Marcotte, and Michael Kimmel are not radfems. They are quite comfortably mainstream. The radical feminist fringe could vanish in an instant, and the remaining feminist movement would still be fiercely hostile to the issues we care about. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/14 01:29 AM |
| 9 | "The Men's Rights movement is one of the most disapointing examples of wasted potential I've ever seen…" - same oldThe linked post's chief point was that MRA hostility towards feminism is supposedly unreasonable and preventing us from working towards "solutions" that the author believes, or at least claims to believe, we could attain if only we stopped criticizing feminist misandry. You can't really respond to a claim like that without pointing out that feminist misandry is in, fact, a thing. As long as you present Men's Rights as an "us vs them" mentality then you're not going to get many people on your sid… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/14 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Sexism towards men usually plays out in the mind of the subject"Cisgender (that is, not transgender) heterosexual. That's what it's supposed to mean, at any rate; a lot of feminists basically just use it as a general-purpose slur at this point. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/14 01:00 AM |
| 2 | 16-year-old schoolboy critically injured from suicide attempt via self-immolation. Associated Press devotes majority of its reporting to make sure everyone knew he didn't threaten others at school, anLikewise, "decimate" actually means to reduce by 1/10th, No, it doesn't. That's what the Latin word decimatio means. It isn't what the English word descended from it means, any more than "villain" means someone who works on a farm or "fascist" means someone who really likes bundles of wood. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/14 03:30 AM |
| 3 | The representations of the female body in video games and movies are unrealistic and unattainableNot trying to knit pick but wasn't this a brilliant idea by a bunch if old white dudes to punish a bunch if non violent black tween drug offenders? It's one thing to have a problem with feminist views, but to act as if this terrible policy had anything to do with feminist or bullshit. He didn't say it was caused by feminists. He said it was an important issue discussed in this subreddit. Aren't most men raped by men? Only if forcing a man to penetrate a woman with his penis isn't rape. But even … | /r/MensRights | 27/01/14 02:34 AM |
| 2 | Man almost raped by woman caught on tapeYou began your participation in this thread by making excuses for a female trying to sexually coerce a male. When called out, you began posting links to utterly irrelevant news accounts of women being raped, because God forbid there EVER be a discussion of sexual violence that doesn't revolve around female victimhood and male depravity. Your other recent "contributions" here include popping into a discussion of the mass murder of thousands of Syrian men, and the utter erasure of that fact, with … | /r/MensRights | 27/01/14 02:07 AM |
| 7 | Massive Gendercide Against Men – News Media Barely NoticeYes, that's a nice illustration of the phenomenon we're talking about- the headline of your linked story calls attention to the fact that the victim was female, in stark contrast to the way the sex of the dead male Syrians is erased. Though I suspect that's not what you were going for. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/14 01:31 AM |
| 16 | "Honeytrap mother escapes jail after luring man to ‘humiliating’ torture with offer of a threesome"So we have in order: A man awaiting trial for rape Two men charged with murder.(They've since been convicted and are now awaiting sentencing.) A man sentenced to prison time for domestic violence Another man awaiting trial Yet another man awaiting trial, this one being held without bond. Are you too stupid to understand why these are different from a story about someone getting off with no prison time, or were you just hoping somebody reading this would be? Edited for formatting. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/14 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Men are not to blame (from /imgoingtohellforthis)Because men are blamed for patriarchy, not women. "Men are shitty to women because of patriarchy" is effectively equivalent to "men are shitty to women because of men." | /r/MensRights | 23/01/14 02:01 AM |
| 9 | "It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman." - KOSS page 206, last paragraph[pdf]Some do. I have major doubts that it's "many." | /r/MensRights | 23/01/14 01:44 AM |
| 2 | NOMAS, a "pro-feminist" organization "enhancing men's lives", claims that men suffer no domestic violence, but provides no evidence.Even in these instances, the language “battered husbands” is not useful especially in light of the thousands and even millions of women known to have suffered or been murdered at the hands of a male abuser. Yes, much as it's unhelpful to use a word like "suicide" when a woman puts a gun to her head and blows her brains out. Or "murder" when somebody else puts a gun to her head and blows her brains out, for that matter. These people are sickening. Feminist women range from (occasionally) good to … | /r/MensRights | 19/01/14 07:16 AM |
| 5 | Defining Brocialist, Leftists' New Feminist Portmanbro : A neologism meant to shame men on the left(socialist) for not being pro feminists.I'm getting really damn sick of feminists taking a word that many men use to express familiarity or affection towards other men and using it as a slur. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/14 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Feminist: 'Anybody pushing a gender neutral approach to domestic - or sexual - violence is just a male violence enabler.'She isn't nobody; she has over 2,200 followers on Twitter. I absolutely agree that trying to engage with her is pointless, but calling this stuff out is worthwhile. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/14 01:22 AM |
| 31 | In Which Feminists Nerd-Shame, And Thus Gender Police. So Much For Opposing Gender Roles!So this is what happens after a middle school bully who gets his kicks beating the shit out of "spergs" and "faggots" goes to college and needs to clean up his language a little. The next time I encounter a feminist claiming that men's problems are caused by the "Patriarchy," I'm tempted to say something like. "Yes, of course they are. Most MRAs already know that; that's why they hate you so much." | /r/MensRights | 14/01/14 09:51 AM |
| 3 | [Tumblr] Male Privilege is Putting Your Life at Risk for OthersPartly being stronger swimmers, along with less cumbersome clothing. It's also partly because crew have much better survival rates than passengers during maritime disasters, so the lack of female sailors during the era of famous examples like the Titanic and Lusitania skews the numbers. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/14 02:24 AM |
| 2 | A feminist hates boys--as "obliged"--but couldn't hate her own son even though tried. Sarcasm? Hard to tell, hating men is after all crucial to many feminists.OP only said that was the case of "many feminists," which I think is a fair assessment. | /r/MensRights | 14/01/14 12:50 AM |
| 7 | A helpful guide for parentsSociety hates feminine traits so much, we consider it "failing" at masculinity to take feminine traits on. So when a woman is called a "slut" for being sexually aggressive or promiscuous, or a "bitch" for being forceful and assertive, or a "dyke" for being hairy or muscular, that's an example of how much society hates masculine traits, right? | /r/MensRights | 13/01/14 06:07 AM |
| 4 | From The Son Of A Feminist (Edgar van de Giessen)I'm so sorry; that sounds horrendous. I often find that the full implications and impact of things in my past don't become fully apparent to me until I write something about them later; it might help you to write down more things about it, even if you have no intention of anyone else reading them. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/14 12:47 AM |
| 1 | MRA Goals for 2014Here is a voice for men claiming that "a study" shows women sometimes enjoy rape. http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/study-reveals-female-rape-victims-enjoyed-the-experience/ Last two paragraphs of the article: All this should be considered, however, with the caveat that the Romeo study found no results whatsoever as presented in paragraphs 1 and 2 of this article, and the fact that the Kale & Weiser and Fisk studies are not extant. These items, indeed this entire article, are illustrative exa… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/14 02:03 AM |
| 1 | MRA Goals for 2014Feminists aren't the enemy! We can lend a hand! What's the deal with circumcision? How can we help? You could tell prominent feminists like Jill Filipovic to stop defending the practice. Perhaps even tell her that condoning child genital mutilation based on the victim's sex is incompatible with being a member in good standing of a movement that supposedly values bodily autonomy opposes to sexism. That might be a start. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/14 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Feminist claims MRM actively discriminates against trans-men, gay men, and black men. I have never seen a bigger load of horse shit in my life.Which post? If you're talking about the thread "I suggest that the MRM movement throw it's full weight in support of Gay Marriage," the response was quite favorable. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Feminist claims MRM actively discriminates against trans-men, gay men, and black men. I have never seen a bigger load of horse shit in my life.I think it would do our public perception the world of good for the MRM to be seen to say "Despite what some of you might think, gay men are men, and even if the problems that gay men don't affect the majority of us, we're damn well going to fight them." Which seemed to be the most common opinion in that thread; it was certainly the most upvoted. The highest-voted response saying the MRM shouldn't involve itself in gay marriage was a person arguing that it would be bad for the LGBT rights moveme… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 12:51 AM |
| 17 | I think I've been raped… by my ex-girlfriend. I feel ridiculous even typing this, and haven't felt able to talk to anyone about it. But the truth is, the experience has really upset me.Yes, she raped you. You're not overreacting; your personal security and freedom of choice were attacked in a very intimate way. You have every right to feel violated and upset about that, to feel just as angry and disgusted towards the person who did that to you as anyone else who's been raped. Links that might be useful: Male Survivor (Support organization, has lots of info and resources, also extensive forums if you're looking for a supportive place to talk about this) Female Sex Offenders – S… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 02:26 AM |
| 4 | The talk that you -must- have with your son. If you don't, it's your fault -when- he becomes a rapist.That's something that baffles me about a lot of this sort of thing. Feminists are very much against sending girls messages implying that they are naturally unambitious, submissive, bad at math, etc., because they fear that girls will internalize these ideas and act accordingly. Yet they seem to have no problem with encouraging boys to believe that their default state is "violent predator." | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 01:42 AM |
| 3 | One of Britain's best pro-male journalists is being subjected to unprovoked libellous abuse from radfems on Twitter.This seems like a good assessment and summary. Whatever his faults, he's written a lot of things about misandry and male victimization that a "feminist shill" would never dream of. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 08:19 AM |
| 5 | One of Britain's best pro-male journalists is being subjected to unprovoked libellous abuse from radfems on Twitter.I've got serious problems with some things Ally Fogg has written, but he's not even remotely on the level of a Kimmel or a Schwyzer. Fogg has demonstrated more genuine concern for men and boys in some of his individual articles than Schwyzer and Kimmel have in their entire careers. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 08:09 AM |
| 6 | "The idea of the 'gaming community,' and its endemic misogyny, transphobia and rape culture, all need to die...". Any response from MRA to this?You misunderstand me completely. The last thing I'd say you come off as is "exasperated." I'm not saying that you should present your points more calmly or gently, or that your tone is too harsh. I'm saying that you're just another strutting macho bully little different (aside from not having youth as an excuse) than the sort who were calling me "loser" and "pussy" and "fag" twenty years ago, that your self-righteous indignation and torrent of social justice buzzwords are little more than a fig … | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 04:59 AM |
| 6 | "The idea of the 'gaming community,' and its endemic misogyny, transphobia and rape culture, all need to die...". Any response from MRA to this?Before people (both male and female) made a unified effort to affect change in the game industry, this place went for about a decade as a male-dominated fedora fornicating nerdgasm. You know, usually your sort manages to be at least a little more subtle about the fact that their whole crusade has more to do with contempt for nerdy, low-status, unmasculine, often non-neurotypical men than any sort of genuine concern about "sexism." I mean, they don't hide it well, but at least they try. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 02:06 AM |
| 3 | TIL: According to NOW, Hitler was a Men's Rights ActivistIve read both the abridged and unabriged versions of Mein Kampf, and it is clear that Hitler valued men more than woman. It is evident in how German school systems/hitler youth were set up. The boys were taught racial history, reading/writing, math, and about warfare. Their bodies and minds were trained to make them the ideal soldiers. So he "valued" men so much that he made their upbringing revolve around sending them off to be maimed or killed. Of course. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 12:57 AM |
| 3 | TIL: According to NOW, Hitler was a Men's Rights ActivistYou've misread him; He was defending the MRA outcry against that woman who wrote about how men shouldn't be around kids in ChicagoNow a while back, not the Hitler comparisons. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 12:45 AM |
| 4 | Dad writes about saving - then losing - foster tripletsAn excerpt: But soon, the men learned they had a new social worker - their 11th. Theirs was her very first case, and she stated up front that she was going to push for "reunification" with the babies and their birth mother. Paulson said the social worker told them: "Surely you know the kids would be more loved with their birth mother." Paulson asked incredulously, "Have you read the notes on this case?" "Oh, yes," the woman reportedly replied. "But I think they are exaggerating the schizophrenia… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 07:57 PM |
| 7 | "The idea of the 'gaming community,' and its endemic misogyny, transphobia and rape culture, all need to die...". Any response from MRA to this?Women, people of colour and the LGBTQ+ community were either objectified or portrayed in deeply hurtful ways in games (Objectification of women in fighting games, CoD's love of portraying Russians or anyone from the Middle East as a terrorist, Shadow Warrior's breathtaking racism that Yahtzee even took notice of, or indeed Nintendo having an issue with simply stating that Birdo is transgender, and general lack of anything but the straight white male as a hero, to name a few). Today I learned tha… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 07:01 PM |
| 13 | Anti-assault "Know Your IX" campaign on twitter paints MRAs as reactionaries; mocks people worried about false rape accusations as potential rapistsSince when is saying a person's argument is nonsensical a personal attack? Since when is saying someone is not "a decent person" anything else? | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 07:25 AM |
| 2 | The best explanation of the difference between feminism and the MRM I've ever readOkay, s/he's a disingenuous piece of shit; do you disagree with the point made? If you mean his original claim that more vigorously policing people he considers "shitheads" would have any substantial positive effect on feminist hostility towards the MRM, then no. In light of the fact that he seems to consider any hostility to feminism one of the things that needs to be expunged, I'd be against what he's proposing even if I thought it would work; if you actually want to oppose misandry, sooner or… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 04:06 AM |
| 23 | "The idea of the 'gaming community,' and its endemic misogyny, transphobia and rape culture, all need to die...". Any response from MRA to this?I enthusiastically endorse the author's decision to dissociate himself from gamer culture. If only more of his ideological ilk would follow his example. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 02:49 AM |
| 13 | The best explanation of the difference between feminism and the MRM I've ever readHave a look at the comments in this thread arguing not that MRM isn't anti-feminist/anti-woman, but that it's actually okay to be so, and you might change your tune. "Anti-feminist" and "anti-woman" are not remotely equivalent, and it is dishonest to keep packaging them together as if they were. Up until today I considered myself an MRA, but it turns out the shitbag ratio is even higher than it is among feminists (and that's saying something). If you think hostility to an ideological movement th… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/14 05:22 AM |
| 6 | The best explanation of the difference between feminism and the MRM I've ever readFrankly, militant feminists aren't the target audience anyway. As someone else pointed out, they're a very small portion of the population. You said a post ago that "Feminists are often backlashing against this movement precisely because the public face is often so horrible," so that's what I addressed. Winning hearts and minds is the single most important thing, and nobody is going to listen if they think we're just woman haters before a single argument is made. Given the way you yourself confl… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/14 05:22 AM |
| 17 | The best explanation of the difference between feminism and the MRM I've ever readFeminists are often backlashing against this movement precisely because the public face is often so horrible The single most pervasive element of this backlash is mocking MRA's completely imaginary love of fedoras, which is sort of like mocking people from Bombay for fearing that cameras will steal their souls and wasting all the wampum they make hunting buffalo buying firewater from paleface- it's not just a moronic stereotype, it's the wrong moronic stereotype. Warren Farrel is as concilliator… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/14 02:38 AM |
| 2 | I have an intersectional question for you guys.Well, I'd say that generally speaking the effects of misandry are worse for men who aren't white or heterosexual, and that many of the problems they face are the result of misandry in combination with other forms of bigotry. I can't really speak to the subject of trans men- I agree that this has been an underexamined area. Generally, I would expect that many of the assumptions and attitudes about what traits make for a “real man” worthy of respect would be disproportionately harmful to trans men… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/13 03:47 AM |
| 5 | Who Are Your Top 10 MRA's/Anti-Feminists of 2013Who gives a fuck what feminist say or believe? Legislators, people who write guidelines for police to follow in domestic violence cases, important decision-makers in organizations concerned with spousal abuse and sexual violence, parents, teachers, and other adult authority figures with great power to shape children's attitudes and self-image... | /r/MensRights | 30/12/13 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Feminist Men's group's article on how to be a good Dad. Shut-up, and give $$$$ to the Mother.Men really are just animals to some people, beasts of burden. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/13 01:27 AM |
| 8 | Feminist Men's group's article on how to be a good Dad. Shut-up, and give $$$$ to the Mother.The "hate group" bullshit is based on the claim that MRAs hate women, so I don't see how dealing harshly with men would make that accusation seem more credible. The opposite, if anything. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 02:25 AM |
| 1 | 'When a man masturbates in public, it’s creepy and it’s criminal and women feel at best grossed out and at worst violated. When a woman masturbates in public, it’s …. a really funny article for Cosmoplitan?'Let's try not to be the subreddit that complains about some random lunatic on the internet. OK, but what does that have to do with complaining about a writer for an enormously popular and widely circulated magazine? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 02:13 AM |
| 5 | Another stunning hard hitting AVFM expose sure to win MRAs friends and not have us labeled as transphobic: Societal Misandry (read feminism and the gynocracy) is often responsible for male to female transsexuals.Nope. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Another stunning hard hitting AVFM expose sure to win MRAs friends and not have us labeled as transphobic: Societal Misandry (read feminism and the gynocracy) is often responsible for male to female transsexuals.There are differences in the average male and average female brain that are apparent even before birth. Neuroplasticity can accomplish remarkable things, but there are limits, and gender identity seems to be one of them. Think of David Reimer- surgically altered to look like a girl, raised as a girl, constantly told he was a girl, and yet he still instinctively rejected that identity and was made miserable by having it pushed on him. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 01:35 AM |
| 0 | "Male Privilege"If you honestly think that women are to blame for male rates of suicide, homelessness, and homicide, you're out of your fucking mind. None of which is claimed or in any way implied by the original image, so who is this supposed to be addressed to? | /r/MensRights | 28/12/13 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Please stop posting links to 'The Mask You Live In'Some (including a moderator) might see it as an attack on masculinity (... how?), but the intent is clearly to help men and boys. It's not "clear" at all, given feminism's track record in this area, especially when people like Michael Kimmel and Jackson Katz are involved. Though I agree that it's worth discussing. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/13 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Do MRAs have marches or campaigns or fundraisers?A few MRA-friendly people holding a talk at a university were enough to inspire a screaming feminist mob to show up, harass attendees, and break the law to disrupt the event. If MRAs actually held a march, feminists would probably respond with a full-blown riot. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/13 02:31 AM |
| 3 | I had a double men's rights fiasco last night (circumcision debate that leads to me getting punched in the face by a girl)So he deserved imaginary punches to the face? | /r/MensRights | 28/12/13 01:24 AM |
| 11 | Feminists angry that welfare no longer focuses 100% on women's needs: "Americans have viewed men as capable of caring for themselves ... women were always viewed as people to be cared for and protected."That was the most blatant, shameless example of "how dare you treat women as if they were no better than men, you sexist monster!" I've seen in a while. And her whining about how poor able-bodied adult women are being robbed of their rightful place as the center of attention because people care more about poor children was absolutely repulsive. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/13 01:17 AM |
| 4 | Male Studies: The Biggest Single Advance for Men and Boys in 2013Kimmel's a really big name as far as academics who talk about men and masculinity, as well as a virulent misandrist who tries to feign sympathy for those he denigrates. It makes sense to emphasize that Groth isn't like that. | /r/MensRights | 24/12/13 01:34 AM |
| 4 | Are you a dog person? Then you're a misogynist! (Trigger warning: Marcotte)The original post by Watson that Marcotte references is actually quite sensible. And I think there might be some interesting things to be said about the attitudes and prejudices that seem implicit in claims that cats don't really love people- disdain for introversion, equating love with obedience and submission, and whatnot. But instead we've got Marcotte explaining once again how the entire cosmos revolves around her genitalia. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/13 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Girls think they are cleverer than boys from age four; teachers' expectations may reinforce gender gap in school performanceI don't know why this is generating so many downvotes. Seriously, guys? "literally every fucking day... i had a detention"? That doesn't trigger any skepticism in you? Not enough to make an argument that boils down to "if someone frequently treated you badly as a child, you must have done something to deserve it" seem less contemptible. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/13 02:55 AM |
| 3 | MRAs want to take rights away from women!The right to be first in line for evacuation from dangerous areas while teenage boys are left to die. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/13 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Unkind Cuts That Hurt Us AllWow, that was outstanding. And at Huffington Post, of all places. | /r/MensRights | 22/12/13 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Girls think they are cleverer than boys from age four; teachers' expectations may reinforce gender gap in school performance32, likewise. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 02:40 AM |
| 1 | A trans woman's question for MensRightsThere was very popular post recently about a lesbian who disguised herself as a man for 18 months that was used to sell the concept of "female privilege" that everyone here just gobbled up. Unfortunately, you're suggesting that male privilege exists, which isn't going to float well here. At the time I make this comment, the OP is at +94. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:59 AM |
| 3 | A trans woman's question for MensRightsIt's not just a matter of wanting to act like the opposite sex- trans people's sense of identity, of who they are as a man or woman, is at odds with their body and their assigned sex. There's strong evidence that our sense of gender identity is innate to a large degree, and a mismatch between that and your body can cause serious problems. Consider the tragic case of David Reimer, for example- a boy surgically altered as a baby to look like a girl, raised to believe he was a girl, given female ho… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:54 AM |
| 2 | Radical feminists steal $2,000 worth of calendarsThe sign left by the thieves accuses the calenders of "misogyny," thereby painting a perfectly normal and harmless desire of most men- seeing attractive women- as hateful and malicious. It's an example of the demonization of male sexuality, a very common and destructive aspect of misandry that plays an important role in many men's issues. Many of the issues we care about are unlikely to see much improvement until feminism is either substantially weakened or drastically transformed. In either cas… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:53 AM |
| 8 | "Why did sillymod remove the Occidental College post?" Let me tell you why.an outlet that could have massively helped male rape victims I doubt you're stupid enough to actually believe this, and I certainly hope nobody here is stupid enough to think you would give a damn if anybody had fucked up such an outlet. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 08:23 AM |
| 9 | "Why did sillymod remove the Occidental College post?" Let me tell you why.Acting like a "gender-flipped radfem" would involve /u/ThePigmanAgain publishing lengthy screeds about how women are subhuman and should be killed, or claiming that every woman who has ever lived has been actively hostile towards men, or putting a bullet through Mary Koss' dog. Sending a silly hoax message on an anonymous complaint form isn't even vaguely close. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 08:12 AM |
| 3 | Are men starting to fight back against radical feminism? Damn right we are.Pathetically cherrypicking random incidents to justify your childish and antiquated fear of women having power. How revealing- and how typical- that you immediately jump to describing our disagreement in terms of fear. After all, it's shameful for a man to be afraid, isn't it? Real men aren't afraid. And nothing could be more contemptible than a man afraid of a mere woman. You're not "radical" anything. You're just another swaggering macho bully. I respect your kind more when you're honest enoug… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/13 02:22 AM |
| 3 | The Hypocrisy of "Afraid Of Women"Yes, exactly! "Threatened" is common in the same way- antifeminist men are always accused of feeling "threatened by feminism" (or "strong women" or whatever), feminist men boast of how they're not "threatened" by it. "Insecure," likewise. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/13 05:35 AM |
| 5 | Shit like this pisses me of.It's collective victim-blaming. They don't want anyone talking about men as victims, so when the subject comes up they try to shift the conversation to men as victimizers. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/13 04:25 AM |
| 16 | Shit like this pisses me of.Because nowadays they're commonly associated with nerdy, uncool, unmasculine guys on the Internet, and behind the superficial rhetoric most feminists' attitudes towards men like that are as "patriarchal" as those of any old-fashioned macho bully. If that picture had been made 20 years ago, the "MRA" would have been depicted with big coke bottle glasses and a pocket protector instead. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/13 04:22 AM |
| 6 | "Society Tells Men That Friendship Is Girly. Men Respond by Not Having Friends."I have never in my entire life been told that friendship is "girly." I've been told that male friendship is gay (which is not remotely the same thing) or that it's immature (since male "maturity" apparently entails making your life outside of work as gynocentric as possible) or that it's for losers, but not that its girly. This seems like another attempt to reframe something that hurts males so that women are somehow the Real Victims once again. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/13 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Always hold the door openThat's exactly how King Richard III died. The whole "Battle of Bosworth Field" thing was just something Shakespeare made up to make his play more exciting. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/13 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Canberra Times - No need for mansplanation, the gender pay gap is as wide as everGotta love how quickly she proves herself a liar and demonstartes what "mansplaining" actually means. First she says: Mansplaining, for those of you who have not come across it, is the idea that men can explain the situation that women find themselves in better than women can explain it. At least that's my version. And then, mere paragraphs later: November is, in my mind, Mansplaining Month. That's the time the White Ribbon Day falls - and it's also the time of the year when men's rights activis… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 07:09 AM |
| 2 | Why do feminists always accuse "nice guys" of being entitled?Because they're basically old-fashioned "patriarchal"bullies in drag, and despise the sort of man who typically gets called a nice guy- low-status, romantically unsuccessful, not very masculine, socially awkward. So when such a man expresses unhappiness that can't be readily explained away as somehow The Patriarchy's (i.e. men, i.e. his own) fault, they invent moral flaws to attribute to him so that it seems as if his suffering is deserved. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/13 02:00 AM |
| 6 | What do you guys think of this? (documentary being made about how boys are raised in our culture)It involves Michael Kimmel and Jackson Katz, misandrists to the core. Wolves in sheep's clothing. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/13 02:26 AM |
| 2 | women aren't the only victims of violence.... [img]I think the guy's mistaken, but he doesn't deserve the label concern troll. The reason the use of the expression "violence against women" here gets our hackles up isn't as immediately obvious as the blatant misandry of something like "teach men not to rape." He seems sincere; leave him be. | /r/MensRights | 07/12/13 04:57 AM |
| 5 | women aren't the only victims of violence.... [img]The problem a lot of folks here have with the image is that the expression "violence against women" typically appears within a larger discourse that denies or downplays the existence of violence against men and boys by frequently using the expression as if it were interchangeable with domestic and sexual violence. America's most significant piece of legislation about domestic violence is called the "Violence Against Women Act," for instance, and outside of MRAs and a few other fringe groups most… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/13 04:47 AM |
| 2 | What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues?It usually means they're wily enough to walk up and put a friendly arm around your shoulder before jamming a knife between your ribs, instead of rushing at you waving a sword in the air and howling for your blood. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 05:00 AM |
| 2 | What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues?What about male feminists? Do they not care about men either? Christ, no. Male feminists are probably worse than female feminists, on average. You frequently end up with a hideous mixture of feminist disdain for men in general, traditional chivalrous disdain for men who aren't sufficiently eager to leap under a bus for women's benefit, and the macho bully's disdain for men who aren't himself, and especially for those weaker than he is. Misandry has always been a burden for some men, and a weapon… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 04:52 AM |
| 5 | What does it mean when feminists say men's issues are feminist issues?I doubt even one of my feminist friends of whatever gender would disagree that enveloping is rape, though they might well disagree that it's as traumatic as forced penetration That's certainly very white of them, refraining from outright endorsing the rape of men and boys. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 04:30 AM |
| 2 | Misuse of the word "creepy" and how it destroys male developmentand in one rare case, actually looking 'creepy' in the way he carried himself; hunched over, eyes darting, etc. This is me, pretty much. Except in my case it's mostly from autism, instead of being a rapist. I'll gladly respect that you're uncomfortable, if you'll respect me considering you an asshole for thinking it would be OK to label me a bad person for having the temerity to set foot outdoors where decent, normal people might be subjected to the sight of me. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Misuse of the word "creepy" and how it destroys male developmentBeyond racial slurs, most men (should be able to) pride themselves on not being affected by name-calling. Even supposing this is true, the OP was in large part talking about teenage boys, not men. And why make an exception for racial slurs? | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Male PrivilegeWhy? | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Male PrivilegeI believe it's likely if we faced a threat great enough to bring back the draft, women would be asked to make the same sacrifices as men. When the United States hasn't even willing to make them register for a draft that hasn't been used in decades? Not likely. And the draft doesn't "ask" for sacrifices. By definition. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 03:15 AM |
| 2 | Female CEO sued for repeatedly referring to Male employees as "Penis". Claims is not gender discrimination, because men are "not a protected group".When you draw from a pool of people who've been raised to believe certain anti-social things like "women are perpetual victims," or "men are pigs," "men are all rapists," "men are oppressors," That pool encompasses men just as much as women. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 03:07 AM |
| 3 | Movember is sexist and racist, apparently.Not to mention "hard-hatted builders." I guess the whole "living indoors" thing is just another way the Patriarchy oppresses women. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/13 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Study confirms the feeling of "creepiness" is largely bullshit. Being male, being nonconformist/deviant, being unemployed, talking about your personal life, having pale skin, and talking about sex are overwhelmingly seen as 'creepy'.Because I think I want to say something pretty similar in both instances - there's really no use complaining of the 'irrationality' of those feelings if those feelings are not subject to conscious control. It's useful knowledge for the people around the person who feels creeped out, though. If feeling "creeped out" by someone is a rational response to genuinely objectionable behavior, that has significant implications for how it's acceptable to treat the "creep" that don't apply if creepiness is… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/13 12:41 AM |
| 1 | LATEST ROB VICTIM GOT WHAT HE DESERVED: A straw man article comparing sexual harassment to theftIt would be a "gender-neutral"-albeit still wrong- statement if the crimes were viewed as gender-neutral. But they're not viewed that way at all. Feminists routinely portray victim-blaming as a serious problem for rape victims and only rape victims, with victims of other violent crimes supposedly untouched by the problem. (A considerable subset will even paint it as something that's only a problem for female rape victims specifically, the possibility of victim-blaming that doesn't involve the vi… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Michael Kimmell - America suffers from "white wing" male rage. "It's everywhere!" - AlternetGood post. I think much of modern feminism's behavior can be explained by this. They're never satisfied by what they say they want- equality- because they have a grossly warped understanding of what they're actually asking for. Being treated like actual men outrages them because it's not the ridiculous fantasy theme park version of being a man in their heads. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/13 12:02 AM |
| 2 | LATEST ROB VICTIM GOT WHAT HE DESERVED: A straw man article comparing sexual harassment to theftAn act of violence. Excuses made. The victim blamed. But only if sex was involved. "Only if sex was involved" bears not even a vague resemblance to reality, and is an excellent demonstration of why any serious movement to help men and boys is ultimately incompatible with feminism: Most of you seem constitutionally incapable of talking about females suffering from a problem without shitting on males suffering from that problem or closely related ones in the process. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 11:49 PM |
| 4 | Can I encourage all MRAs to spend a little time helping men in crisis at r/suicidewatch?How was he wrong? Even if we take your statistic at face value, "men are, by and large, more affected by suicide than women are" is a perfectly reasonable statement. The effects of a failed suicide attempt on your life are usually significantly smaller than the effects of being dead. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 11:21 PM |
| 7 | This is refreshing to see. Help for men. (x-post r/pics)It's fascinating, reading the negative comments in this thread, to see just how hard it can be to tell feminist champions of "social justice" and old-fashioned macho shitheads apart. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/13 01:33 AM |
| 8 | This is refreshing to see. Help for men. (x-post r/pics)Glad to know you find domestic violence so amusing. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/13 01:29 AM |
| 3 | Further Developments In The Feminist/SJW Invasion Of Video GamingBut according to far too many feminists, the mere presence of sex-appeal immediately cancels out any agency, determination, gender-nonconformity, rationality or badassery that said character exhibits. Extremely misogynistic, in its way- this treats female sexual appeal as something that negates whatever other traits a woman may have. Feminists actually seem far more likely to see female characters as nothing but tits and ass than the supposed misogynists they're attacking. There seems to be a lo… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/13 02:07 AM |
| 11 | Jeremy Meltzer: "We have been brutalising women for thousands of years."Jeremy Meltzer has no right to speak for any man other than himself on this matter. So the message we should take from this article is that, by his own admission, Jeremy Meltzer brutalizes women. Jeremy Meltzer chooses to engage in violence against women when he knows he can get away with it, possibly because he fears and resents women's sexual power over him. His claims about other men, on the other hand, are pure speculation. But I'll take him at his word for things he has direct personal expe… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/13 02:24 AM |
| 1 | What's With This Subreddit? - A Meta Discussion About Passive Aggressiveness, Bitter Sarcasm, and a Lack of ActionA lot of feminist anti-MRA rhetoric really only makes sense if you assume that gay men aren't actually men- the idea that common men's rights concerns like false rape accusations, the stereotyping of all men as sexual predators, or the invisibility of male rape victims would only be of concern to straight men just makes no sense otherwise. Edit: Bloody hell, how did I not notice how old this thread is? Ah, well. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Do we really need an International Men's Day? The conclusion is that we do.> The single most common reaction to International Men’s Day among my friends on the political left is always some variation on “I thought every day was International Men’s Day?’ Some try to make it about the problems men cause women while others press the pedal for full-blown mockery and derision. Surely they realise that such swipes barely tickle at the men in designer suits who run the banks, the governments and the corporations, while cutting deep at the homeless, the desperate, the suicidal… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 02:39 AM |
| 2 | Male victims of rape, sexual abuse and depression: Breaking the silence on International Men's Day - "Those who mock today are mocking victims of a viciously gendered society"Ally Fogg is hit and miss lately, but- a bit of boilerplate "not that I'm one of those nasty people who would blame feminism for this" forelock-tugging aside- this is quite good, and a nice rejoinder to the sort of smug, ignorant assholes who say "I thought every day was Men's Day." | /r/MensRights | 20/11/13 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Legally Obscene: Rape, Statutory Rape, and Child Support.Consider just the headline and only the headline. The idea that “Legally Obscene” means something like “these things are considered obscene in the eyes of the law, but aren't actually wrong in themselves” makes no sense when one-third of the subsequent list is something that isn't condemned by the law, isn't condemned by public opinion, and is in fact legally compulsory. The conclusion you describe only makes sense if paying child support is illegal and widely considered reprehensible, as rape i… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/13 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel, California's Governor Jerry Brown and France's President François Hollandethree have defended the circumcision of male infants, as practised by Jews and MuslimsDid you actually bother to look at any of those links? The traditional Jewish calendar starts at the creation of the world (as reckoned by medieval Jewish scholars), not the founding of Judaism. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/13 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Legally Obscene: Rape, Statutory Rape, and Child Support.What, exactly, is supposed to be offensive about the title "Legally Obscene: Rape, Statutory Rape, and Child Support"? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/13 07:31 AM |
| 1 | "feminist-guide-to-non-creepy-flirting".....Really!?You mean like a homeless person or a muslim? Wouldn't it make more sense to call the person who has all those feelings creepy? That's what always gets me about feminist talk of what constitutes "creepy" behavior. They vest so much power in women's feelings that the creepiest thing you can be isn't a guy who violates women's boundaries, or whatever they want to claim it means - it's being part of a stigmatized racial or religious group, or being visibly disabled or deformed, or having atypical ma… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 05:21 AM |
| 5 | They ditched me like I was nothing.The "proof" given to me from them was that society is inherently misogynistic is that men can't go out dressed in makeup/wearing female clothing without the risk of getting beaten up by some guy who wants to beat him up for not being "normal". Society looks down on men who allow their wives to keep their last name. Society doesn't allow for men to be stay-at-home fathers, society doesn't teach men not to rape, instead tells women not to dress provocatively. This can easily be turned around. Femi… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Stop posting the Facebook group "I Hate Men" takedown. We got it the first time. Thank you.Of course, how could I miss this great philosophical thinking?! Two wrongs DO make a right. Find out what "begging the question" means and why it's bad before you start sneering at anybody's philosophical thinking. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Stop posting the Facebook group "I Hate Men" takedown. We got it the first time. Thank you.How is it that this subreddit understands analogies so poorly? He didn't compare nuclear policy to censorship. He substituted your unprincipled eye for an eye, hypocritical argument into a different situation to see if it worked. Which it did, since no nuclear weapon has ever been used in anger by a nation facing the threat of retaliation in kind. He chose the worst analogy for his asinine point imaginable. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Stop posting the Facebook group "I Hate Men" takedown. We got it the first time. Thank you.Ya that line of thought has worked well for Nuclear Policy, Well... yeah, actually, unless the Cold War ended in a global nuclear holocaust that I just haven't noticed yet. What's the point of this analogy supposed to be? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Article: "Where do all the angry white men come from" Data: "the gender script for women has been largely torn up ... men are stuck with a script for a role that barely exists." Conclusion: MRAs are ENFORCING male roles?!? Why don't they at least read what we say?It's sad to read this, because I'd previously thought that Ally Fogg, whatever his problems, was basically one of the good guys. I guess he's showing his true colors. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/13 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Rush Limbaugh says single mothers are "semen receptacles." Daily Kos commenter insists this terminology was "swiped from MRAs." I'm sorry, what?I'd add Israel Kirzner as well, with his emphasis on entrepeneurship as discovery. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/13 02:37 AM |
| 5 | So video games are a misogynist haven, eh?Calling the existence of implied threats of rape against the female protagonist an example of gaming sexism against women isn't merely failing to comment on comparable threats (or worse) against male characters- its denying their existence by claiming that such threats are a specifically female problem. They do comment, intentionally or otherwise, on things like the scene the OP describes all the time- that's the problem. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/13 07:09 AM |
| 5 | So video games are a misogynist haven, eh?Right then why aren't MRAs talking about this? Partly because I doubt most of us think any and all possible depictions of sexual violence against a male character in a game should be automatically out of bounds. The problem is the way people talk about- or rather, don't talk about- this content, not neccesarily the games themselves. (Personally, I thought F.E.A.R. 2 did it very well- it was appropriate to the story, and portrayed as a clearly and unambiguously horrifying, evil act.) And partly b… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/13 06:59 AM |
| 1 | So video games are a misogynist haven, eh?Yeah, F.E.A.R. 2 is always a huge elephant in the room whenever this subject comes up- it's almost certainly the most explicit portrayal of sexual violence ever seen in a commercially video game (aside from full-blown hentai games), and nobody seems to notice. (Kudos to the developers for the way they handled it, by the way- as something unambiguously horrible, nothing sexy or funny about it.) | /r/MensRights | 12/11/13 06:04 AM |
| 2 | "[Rape] is not a women's issue. It is not a men's issue. This is an issue of human beings."No one is justifying slander here. Saying "some people lie about what MRAs believe" is not slander. Are you saying feminist should be able to tell SPLC that we are a hate group and we should not care? That actually seems to be YOUR position, since this discussion started when you became indignant at somebody grumbling about how MRAs beliefs are often misrepresented. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/13 01:06 AM |
| 1 | "[Rape] is not a women's issue. It is not a men's issue. This is an issue of human beings."The problem wasn't that it was directed at feminazis or radical feminists but that it was directed at ALL feminist. Actually, it wasn't explicitly "directed" at anyone. The post you objected to read, in its entirety: I can see it now... "Misogynist subreddit claims rape is not a women's issue!" It didn't even mention feminists except by implication, much less specify that "all feminists" would engage in that sort of distortion. He merely pointed out that such distortions of what MRAs say and bel… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/13 01:00 AM |
| 3 | "[Rape] is not a women's issue. It is not a men's issue. This is an issue of human beings."Reasonable people aren't offended when someone who's been frequently slandered mentions that fact, so what's the supposed problem? | /r/MensRights | 09/11/13 04:49 AM |
| 2 | 10 Ways to Be a Better Male Feminist - Exactly what you'd expect from Huff Po.Under the guise of "feminism," men have sexually harassed and raped women whose trust they'd gained, used their positions of influence to bully and silence women (Hugo Schwyzer, anyone?) and even gotten away with murder. No, you probably won't do any of those things-- but we can't be sure of that. Gee, who could have imagined that a movement downright obsessed with how weak, helpless, and pitiful the entire female sex is might draw in men who don't respect women very much? | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 04:51 AM |
| 3 | 10 Ways to Be a Better Male Feminist - Exactly what you'd expect from Huff Po.One of our more frequent feminist participants in this subreddit until a few months ago was /u/spermjack_attack. If you're not familiar with SRSister argot, "spermjacking" is the term they use to mock the idea of what is otherwise known by less whimsical terms like "reproductive abuse." The lack of feminists who've expressed disapproval of his username- and it's by no means the worst moniker I've seen a feminist using- has not prevented the movement from being taken seriously. I'd also point out… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Done feeling ashamed and being silent...Thank you for sharing this. I wish I could think of something more to say. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Sweden wants 2 females per movie. This is getting ridiculous.That's an extremely good point. Which makes me wonder how many people who complain about how so few movies pass the Bechdel test would actually like a world where most movies did, since that would mean a lot more positively portrayed violence against women. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 03:34 AM |
| 2 | An abused 10 year old gets 40 years to life. This ruling is evidence that the state of California views 10 year olds as more responsible for their own actions than wives who allege abuse.Thank you. Clearly one of the few others who actually read the whole thing and didn't fly off into an ill-informed rage against women. I haven't been able to find a single "rant against women" in this thread, much less any indication that the majority of responses in this thread are like that. What are you basing this on? | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Reddit is "a bunch of men with a MASSIVE persecution complex. They probably haven't met or known many women, but the ones they have probably avoid them, and so that re-affirms their already self-reaffirming ideas they get from MRAs on the internet."I totally disagree with his message, but how can we change someone's opinion? Someone like /u/pantsfactory? You almost certainly can't, and you're setting yourself up for a lot of wasted time and energy if you're engaging with them with the idea that they might be your ally if only you can present your case reasonably enough. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 03:10 AM |
| 0 | Confused about the perception of Men's RightsYou may or may not be "feminist-loving," but if you're going to insult me for being autistic I'm not going to object to "shit stain." | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Confused about the perception of Men's RightsThere are minorities that don't encourage it but that's such a sweeping statement it's like saying all men are rapists, all black people are criminals and all feminists don't encourage discussion. "Men" and "black people" are biological category people are born into. "Feminists" are a political movement that people choose to join or not join. They're not remotely equivalent. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Confused about the perception of Men's RightsLol, so Men are victimized for being male? Many are, yes. The fact that you find the very idea so risibile illustrates why we're not on the same side - even when you're supposedly trying to convince us that feminists are on our side, you still can't or won't stop denying, minimizing, and belittling male victimization. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Over two decades ago I was sexually assaulted by a woman when I was no older than seven years of age. Very few people believe me. Even fewer seem to care. I've been asked many times if I'm just making it up. I need help and direction.Nomenimion is fixated on the idea that victims of female-on-male sexual violence are incredibly rare and that caring about the issue is a distraction that's corrupting the MRM, and he's recently taken to shitting up discussion in the comments of posts about it. I'd advise against trying to engage him on the subject. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/13 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Movember is "offensive", "gender-essentialist", "racist" and "clearly designed with a hairy white cisgender blonde guy" xPost/r/FeminismWhat of men who have a hard time growing any facial hair at all? Prostate cancer can kill them just as dead as the rest of us, so spare us the ridiculous pretense of concern for them. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/13 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….Penile cancer is incredibly rare in the western world. Breast cancer kills more American men than penile cancer. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/13 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….I have the right to make decisions for my son that he can not make for himself, such as having a piece of skin removed from under his tongue so that he can avoid a speech impediment or having the doctor cut his ear and insert tubes so that he can hear. These are examples of correcting a congenital defect in an organ that impedes its proper function. That's not at all analogous to irreversibly removing a normal, properly functioning part of the body for purely speculative health benefits decades … | /r/MensRights | 02/11/13 02:05 AM |
| 0 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….The first listed "disadvantage" is less sensitivity during sex. This means you'll last longer in bed. I'm disinclined to consider this a problem. You'll still finish spectacularly, perhaps even more so because the more it builds, the better it is. Surgically altering healthy infants to enhance their sexual prowess is a line I'd really rather not see our society cross. Consent in general is a strange thing to discuss for babies. Parents are in charge of babies. Babies aren't in charge of anything… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/13 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….Penile cancer is extremely rare in Europe and North America. You'd save far more lives giving every girl a mastectomy. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/13 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….As mentioned below, circumcision is a religious institution The great majority of circumcisions in the developed world are done for non-religious reasons. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….These are equally good reasons for supporting the continued practice of female genital mutilation where it's already common, you realize. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Male circumcision is a human rights violation that must be stopped say European leaders….Most circumcision in the West is the result of 19th-century Gentiles freaking out over the imaginary health problems supposedly caused by masturbation. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 11:40 PM |
| 2 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeI don't think he has. He pointedly avoids saying that the "made-to-penetrate isn't rape" position is actually wrong. He merely says it was "not worth the trouble it's causing" because other people who supposedly misunderstood him are criticizing him for it. He's grudgingly ceding a bit of ground because its become too costly to hold, like somebody who thinks trans women are deluded male freaks but will refer to one as "she" when people who might make an issue about intentional misgendering are w… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 11:31 PM |
| -2 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”This concept needs to become a character action game on the PlayStation 4 as soon as possible. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 06:09 AM |
| 5 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rape/u/diehtc0ke didn't paraphrase Futrelle, either. He said, and I quote: I don't see where he says that. Labeling it as something other than rape doesn't automatically mean treating it less seriously. This was in defense of Futrelle, in response to /u/levelate 's claim that Futrelle's refusal to call it "rape" when a female forced sex on a male indicated that Futrelle considered it a less serious act than raping a woman. To which /u/levelate replied "fuck off back to againstmensrights with your di… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/13 02:19 AM |
| 6 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeWhy would I? His token acknowledgement that whatever-his-preferred-euphemism-is-for-raping men and boys is ”sexual violence and needs to be taken seriously” is included in the image. Your first quote is just him repeating the statement in the original comment in different words: He thinks forced sexual acts that would obviously be rape if the female particpant was unwilling cease to be rape when it's the male participant who's unwilling. Still wrong and should be taken seriously, just like thing… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/13 01:43 AM |
| 3 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeSo accurately quoting what a person has said is "word games" now? /u/diehtc0ke didn't quote Futrelle, accurately or otherwise. But you already knew that, of course. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 11:52 PM |
| 6 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeLabeling it as something other than rape doesn't automatically mean treating it less seriously. In that case, I have a proposal for you: Let's apply the term "rape" to crimes against female victims only when the victim is either married or not sexually active. Forcing women outside those categories to have sex gets called something else, and isn't counted as 'rape" in future statistics. All future discussion of sexual violence will take it as a given that, with the possible exception of conserva… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 11:40 PM |
| 5 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rape~80% of rapes (not "sexual violence, which is a broader category that also encompasses less severe acts, hence Futrelle's preference for the term in regards to male rape victims) against men outside of prison are committed by women according to the CDC figures, not 40%. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 11:11 PM |
| 8 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeIf I said forcing someone to have sex is only "rape" if the victim is male, or white, or chaste, how much credit would I be entitled to for throwing in an admission that don't call-it-raping women or people who aren't white or "sluts" is still a bad- albeit less bad- thing to do? | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 11:01 PM |
| 1 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeDone. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 06:47 PM |
| 6 | "Manboobz" David Futrelle explicitly states that forcing a man to penetrate someone with his penis is not rapeHere's a picture I saved for posterity, just in case: http://imgur.com/imAdZtq I doubt many of us are surprised to learn that he believes that, but to the best of my knowledge he's never been obliging enough to spell it out like this before. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 06:15 AM |
| 7 | Helping those in need. A response to the latest controversy from a rape victim.Thanks for sharing this. The fact that so few feminists see any problem with treating "men" as an undifferentiated class as the people who need to "stop rape" or "be taught not to rape" or benefit from rape culture or whatever is one of the most odious things about the movement, at least to me- either they don't believe that rape of men and boys is actually a thing, so that it doesn't occur to them that they're saying those things to and about (even if one goes by the ridiculously biased statist… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 03:25 AM |
| 6 | Boys are grots at the best of times, and the last thing I wanted to worry about on top of doing their washing, feeding them and picking up after them is to then have to clean their foreskin morning and night - a Mother's reason for circumcisionMy very wise mother always used to say “If it was was worth anything at all then why would people get rid of it?” Words to remember if your husband decides to ditch your for somebody younger and hotter a few years down the line, lady. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/13 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Innocent man burned to death after vigilantes branded him a paedophileRemember what our stalwart feminist defenders have told us, gang: Misandry irritates, misogyny kills. Mr. Ebrahimi is probably just taking a a nap, or something. /s | /r/MensRights | 29/10/13 12:48 AM |
| 6 | Examples of female-on-male sexism in geekdomWhile I certainly acknowledge that a lot of male geeks get mocked for their weight and poor social skills - such mockery is not gendered. They're getting made fun of for their weight and poor social skills, not because they're male. I disagree where social skills are concerned. Many of the he particular traits male geeks tend to get mocked for- shyness, lack of personal magnetism, fearfulness in social situations, inability to initiate interactions with the opposite sex- are far less stigmatized… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/13 11:10 PM |
| 4 | I was banned from /r/feminism for daring to defend menMost feminists will claim that feminism is not a movement against sexism but the movement against sexism- if they acknowledge men's issues at all, they almost always claim that those are also feminist issues that feminism is already addressing, and that if MRAs really cared about them we'd be feminists instead. A gendered name like "feminism" belies what many feminists claim their movement is about, in other words. It's like if I created a group and proclaimed it to be devoted to fighting racism… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/13 02:18 AM |
| 5 | Why are so many women identifying as gay or bisexual? According to this family physician/psychologist, because guys are "losers"On the one hand, he proposes that more females are turning to other females for romantic and sexual relationships because males today are losers. Yet his support, such as it is, for his claim that guys are now losers is that they're much more interested in porn than they used to be. So, if women are now less interested in men and more interested in women because men suck, what lesson should he draw if it's also true that men- who he says mostly lack the sexual malleability that makes bisexuality… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/13 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Mom Pleads Guilty To Burning Off 18-Year-Old Son’s Penis, Nipples With LighterThis would be an excellent story to link to in response to the argument that women are always the victim, but where I'm coming from is that without that argument being presented or discussed it seems like a stretch to call it a men's rights issue as a stand alone story. To link to it in the context where you say it would be appropriate to bring it up, he'd have to know about it first. But doing things your way would make that far less likely- he'd have to single-handedly hunt down examples like … | /r/MensRights | 23/10/13 02:34 AM |
| 2 | Mom Pleads Guilty To Burning Off 18-Year-Old Son’s Penis, Nipples With LighterAgain, I can see your point, but I'll say it again; "they do it too" is not a solid argument for changing that attitude. "They don't do it too, or at least not frequently or severely enough to care" is the whole attitude in question! You're going to have a hard time convincing someone that a proposition is false if you're unwilling to say "That proposition is false." Absolutely this is relevant, but it should be a response to a false claim, not a leading argument. Why? What other advocacy group … | /r/MensRights | 23/10/13 02:20 AM |
| 3 | Mom Pleads Guilty To Burning Off 18-Year-Old Son’s Penis, Nipples With LighterMen get assaulted everyday by other men that would have not attacked them had they been a woman, why is that not a men's rights issue? Who said it isn't? If you wanted to start a discussion on how male violence against women is considered reprehensible while violence against fellow men is both common and far more accepted, I don't think anybody would complain that it's not a valid men's rights issue I would challenge that. I'm sure you'll find cases of female genital mutilation as a cultural tra… | /r/MensRights | 23/10/13 01:50 AM |
| 6 | Mom Pleads Guilty To Burning Off 18-Year-Old Son’s Penis, Nipples With LighterIf we lived in an alternate bizarro universe where the capacity of males to do heinous things to females was as trivialized, denied, and ignored as the reverse is in ours, calling as much attention as possible to men like Ariel Castro would be a very good idea for anyone interested in women's rights. Not only to educate the public, but to remind themselves of why their cause matters when so much of mainstream society keeps insisting it doesn't. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/13 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Male privilegeI live with a feminist, and their explanation for these kinds of discrepancies is that the patriarchy creates the same conditions for male suffering as it does for female inequality- Why call it "patriarchy," then? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Male privilegeI'd like both sets of problems to be addressed, not for us to sit around and belittle straw-women. What "straw-women?" | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 11:44 PM |
| 8 | How to respond to the "don't view woman sexually argument" within the context of shamingI've noticed that when complaining about "nice guys" the desires of the "nice guy" is always reduced to sex, whereas I think that most of these "nice guys stuck in the friend zone" are after everything that a relationship offers- the love, the sex, the affirmation, the humor, the pleasure of mutual support and care. This, a thousand times. Most shaming of "nice guys" treats them as little more than lust-driven brutes, incapable of actually caring about the women they're interested in or wanting … | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 01:19 AM |
| 1 | 18% of men will self-harm in their lives, mostly between age 10-19There are much easier, less painful ways to get people to notice you, if that's all you're after. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 12:34 AM |
| 15 | New push in Israel for legal recognition of raped boysCurrently, only females can be victims of rape under Israeli law; raping a man or boy is sorted under less severe crimes like indecent acts. Feminism bears direct responsibility for that; a previous attempt to extend the protection of the law to men and boys was defeated in 2010 due to objections from feminist groups. The proposal described in the article would still only apply rape laws to male victims under 18, which its supporters describe as a necessary compromise to prevent feminists from s… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/13 05:09 AM |
| 3 | A competition of suffering: Male vs. female rapeMost acknowledgements of male victims from groups like seem to be the equivalent of "I'm not a racist, but..." | /r/MensRights | 20/10/13 12:42 AM |
| 3 | A competition of suffering: Male vs. female rapeFeminist talk about how "it's not a competition" are utterly disingenuous. They don't oppose turning it into a "competition" because they want to everybody share the prize, instead of being divided into winners and losers. They oppose competition because it requires them to compete, when they were expecting to have the entire prize just handed to them because nobody else showed up. It's like somebody gleefully punching you in the face, over and over - and then, when you finally hit them back, th… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/13 12:40 AM |
| 4 | Dad on Huffpost details his discrimination; Women in comment section say he should "understand" why the woman profiled him as child rapist & that he should take down the article since "most abductions are by men"I'm not sure you should be encouraging people to contemplate who is or isn't "a danger to society" only one sentence after saying that a man who failed to protect a stranger from (speculative) harm due to (possibly unjustified) fear for his own safety "needs to be put down like a rabid dog." | /r/MensRights | 20/10/13 12:09 AM |
| 1 | I'm a man...and I was raped. (Cross post r/offmychest)I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing this. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Bomb hoax at school, school punishes all male students, even those not involved. (X-Post news)Why? Some people do horrendous things with perfectly comprehensible motives and a clear understanding of what they're doing. Their reasoning for what they do may be repugnant, but that's not the same thing as being insane. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/13 06:31 AM |
| 4 | Okay, Feminism, It’s Time We Had a Talk About EmpathyI often point out when feminists gender-police men, but I haven't seen as many instances of them gender-policing women. That said, when feminists gender-police, they prove how utterly hypocritical they are. I've thought for some time that even if I'd never heard of the idea of men's rights, or even of misandry, I'd still have ample reason to consider the feminist movement the enemy of people like me as an autistic. They seem to despise my kind (and men with autistic spectrum-y traits generally) … | /r/MensRights | 16/10/13 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Making men victims victimizes menAnd this also gets to the heart of my objection to applying the victimhood mantle to the male. Making men as physically helpless and violable as contemporary feminists hold women to be is a form of social castration. One of the defining characteristics of masculinity is the possession of agency — the ability to act. This is exactly the sort of bullshit that any effective men's rights movement has to fight. And you know what the irony is? He's endorsing one of the central pillars of feminist misa… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/13 02:27 AM |
| 1 | I'm probably not the first to come up with this, but aren't a lot of feminist concerns really just humanitarian concerns arbitrarily applied to females only?A white racist who runs around calling everyone a 'ni**er' does not represent white people, just like idiots on the internet call A misleading conflation. The argument is about whether tumblr fems are representative of feminism, not whether they're representative of women. "Feminist" is not something people are born as, or have no choice about being. It's an ideology and a movement. If we compare apples to apples- bio groups to bio groups, ideologies to ideologies- feminism in your own analogy i… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 11:54 PM |
| 1 | I'm probably not the first to come up with this, but aren't a lot of feminist concerns really just humanitarian concerns arbitrarily applied to females only?I think the rule in /r/Feminism is that to post a comment directly replying to a post (as opposed to replying to top-level responses) you have to be a feminist, however they define that. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/13 11:20 PM |
| 2 | War of Words: Circumcision and the InternetFrom the above article it says, "respecting the integrity of an infant's body until he is old enough to make his own decisions," which is one subset of the MGM argument that I take issue with as parents routinely have to make choices regarding the bodies of their children. And yet in most situations not involving penises, chopping off healthy parts of your children's bodies without any medical need is illegal, and people who do it are considered despicable. If I decided to cut off my daughter's … | /r/MensRights | 07/10/13 01:40 AM |
| 8 | I was called a misogynistShe asked him why he wouldn't donate. She was the one who didn't consider, "No, I'm not interested" a satisfactory answer, not the OP. He gave her the information she asked for- more consideration than she was entitled to, when she was badgering a stranger for free money when she'd already been politely told no. Should men start treating women in professional situations like insecure girlfriends asking if their asses look fat, or something? | /r/MensRights | 07/10/13 01:24 AM |
| 1 | What % of male suicides is made up from gay males?Why do you think men commit suicide at a higher rate? This may sound stupid, but humor me. Is it because men are less likely to seek help for depression because they're not supposed to be emotional, thus it leads to suicide? Partly that. Partly because people generally are less sympathetic towards men, so men who do seek help are less likely to get it and more likely to face negative consequences (such as ridicule) for doing so. Partly because men are encouraged to see themselves as more expenda… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/13 12:23 AM |
| 1 | What % of male suicides is made up from gay males?She responded by saying that while I was correct that males commit suicide approx 4x the rate of females, the majority of these are made up of gay males and it is not a 'mens right' issue per say, but more of a LGBT issue. Then we should be seeing lesbians commit suicide at comparable rates. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/13 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Why I need Men's RightsI'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing this. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/13 05:03 AM |
| 3 | Feminist blogger discusses MRA movement. Commenter calls her out in comments. Guess what happens...The only way it's even possible to imagine that violence done to men by other men doesn't matter is when you've already decided that men, as a class, are your enemy. Or that men are not really human beings, just interchangeable, soulless pieces of a single homogeneous entity. They aren't mutually exclusive, of course. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Video depicting the Toronto Rally, showing anti-male human rights protestors.I'd pay real money to see the expressions on these stupid assholes' faces after someone pointed out that one of the two speakers at the last big MRM event in Canada was a gay man. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 04:53 AM |
| 1 | There is a growing backlash to the "White Ribbon" hate campaign.That's a pretty disingenuous comparison; DV activists are not female supremacists, and that context makes a hell of a difference. Not in a way that's relevant to the subject I made the comparison to address- namely, your claim that it is unreasonable to view the White Ribbon campaign's exclusive focus on male violence against women as anti-male because such a focus is not "conceptually incompatible" with caring about male victims, too. It's a weak argument because real-world judgments about what… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 12:04 AM |
| 2 | "Why Men Need Feminism Too" - This lens of feminism seemed to align with the Men's Rights movement more than most I've seen. Thoughts?If "patriarchy" is indeed what says and believes the nasty thing about men on the poster, then actual existing feminism is itself part of the Patriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 05:00 AM |
| 2 | There is a growing backlash to the "White Ribbon" hate campaign.I'm not sure I agree with your intuition here, and I say intuition because the sentences "DV against women is a problem that ought to be addressed" and "DV against men is a problem that ought to be addressed" are not conceptually incompatible. Sure. And in a contextless, ahistorical vacuum, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children" does not in any way imply that black children aren't equally precious or don't warrant the same concern. It says nothing about peop… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 12:10 AM |
| 1 | There is a growing backlash to the "White Ribbon" hate campaign.The feminist critique of male-dominated video game culture is that it's misogynistic; to say that this is something hostile to men is to equate men with misogyny. Only if one assumes that their claims that the culture is misogynistic are actually true. Saying it's anti-men for a group of people with a well-established track record for hostility to men and "masculine" ways of doing things to vilify a male-dominated subculture for faults it doesn't actually have doesn't equate men with the alleged… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/13 11:44 PM |
| 4 | 27 Male Survivors Of Sexual Assault Quoting The People Who Attacked ThemFeminists tend to cluster towards the extremes more than other women, in my experience. They're more likely than women taken as a whole to understand that female-on-male rape is a real and serious thing when they encounter examples of it, but feminists also produce a disproportionately large amount of the really vile comments about the subject. | /r/MensRights | 25/09/13 05:19 AM |
| 1 | This deplorable article appeared in today's Irish Times "Telling women to be careful gets men off the hook"That's what gets me about this. We tell children to be careful about potential sexual predators all the time, and nobody bats an eye, and yet apparently it's outrageous to say the same to grown women. It's as if girls actually become less competent to look after themselves as they grow up. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/13 12:58 AM |
| 4 | “We’re calling you out.” An article from my university that calls on men to not only stop raping, but to stop letting other men rape women.A few days ago there was a post where women held signs of things that men had said to them while they were being raped. What defines sexist violence is that such a collection of images is relatively simple to manage. Which events of equal weight can be produced for men's rights? Which event are you referring to- the rapes, or the collecting of images about it? Your wording is ambiguous. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/13 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Molestation, my mom would never understand...This is almost textbook entrapment, where your poor choices created a situation that a predator exploited. That's not even remotely what "entrapment" means. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/13 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Everyone prefers to sit next to women while using public transportation!I wonder if people are, on average, more likely to prefer sitting next to a white man than a black man. And, if so, whether Slate would publish my article whining about how much this sucks for me as a white guy. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 06:30 AM |
| 2 | People need to stop being dicks on the subway by taking up way too much space. Oh wait. No, just men need to stop doing that. More equality!So this Tumblr is basically /r/creepshots, but with male crotches and a bunch of ideological hysterics. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Real Rape Culture: "A Rose City, Michigan boy was repeatedly raped over a period of three years by teacher Neal Erickson, who was eventually caught after photos of his crimes surfaced .. Ten of his fellow teachers wrote letters asking that Erickson be forgiven for his “mistake.”"You're evading my question. I didn't ask about jokes about bullying gay people, I asked about jokes about gay people or gayness themselves. So I'll ask again: Do you think they demonstrate greater tolerance for gay people? | /r/MensRights | 17/09/13 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Real Rape Culture: "A Rose City, Michigan boy was repeatedly raped over a period of three years by teacher Neal Erickson, who was eventually caught after photos of his crimes surfaced .. Ten of his fellow teachers wrote letters asking that Erickson be forgiven for his “mistake.”"Its logical to assume that rapists (or any criminal) would be more psychologically comfortable to do what they do in an environment where what they do is joked about. Whyis it logical? Do gay jokes make gay people more comfortable about being gay? | /r/MensRights | 17/09/13 01:25 AM |
| 3 | This is female privilege. Feminism is blind to it and this is why I need Men's Rights.You literally have no idea what it is like to be accosted like that. I am sure it is very physically threatening. I am sure that it probably feels very, very bad - to the point where any human would want someone to help. I don't know what that feels like, and you don't know what that feels like. This is because we are privileged enough to not know what that feels like. We are lucky, because we are Men. Yes, no man or boy has ever known what it's like to be accosted by people stronger than himsel… | /r/MensRights | 14/09/13 03:13 AM |
| 6 | About the "Women in Tech" thingThey're not intrinsic to being a good programmer, they're stereotypes associated with low-status, unattractive, geeky males, typically invoked by people who hold them in contempt. If a woman keeps bringing up "fedoras" or "neckbeards," then yes, that's a pretty good sign that they are the kind of girl who picked on nerdy guys growing up, or supported it when others did so. That doesn't encompass all nerdy women, certainly, but it sure applies to a lot of feminists- not surprising, given the atti… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 01:01 AM |
| 9 | [Tumblr/Video] Woman sexually assaults young teenage boy on the bus, removing his clothes and grinding on him. People on the bus laugh at it as if it's some fucking joke.A quick search of "rape culture" in /r/AskFeminists[1] shows dozens of instances of respondents emphatically insisting that rape culture can and does affect male victims and none (as far as I can see) arguing that it doesn't. This is sort of like finding out out if someone is a racist by simply asking them if they are- outside a very small fringe, almost everybody will emphatically insist that the answer is no, of course they're not. Most feminists will say that of course men are raped, of cours… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/13 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Guiness got it a right. A beer ad where men aren't lustful, savage animalsThat's really cool. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/13 11:27 PM |
| 9 | Any Penny Arcade or PAX fans out there? I find this completely bizarre, and dangerous for free speech.seriously though this is just more of the "feminists own rape" crap that's been going on way too long. men can be raped too... and in fact the comic depicted a man that had been raped... This is what infuriates me about the Dickwolves controversy. Whether jokes involving rape are ever appropriate or not is secondary.. The rape victim in the joke wasn't a woman, and feminists are screaming bloody murder about the supposed "misogyny" of the comic anyway, as if any reference to rape must really be … | /r/MensRights | 07/09/13 12:17 AM |
| 0 | So today in class we discussed rape... my blood is still boiling from anger.Should rapists who kill their victims afterward get lighter sentences than rapists who leave their victims alive? Should people who've been raped be encouraged to commit suicide? If someone I cared about told me they'd been raped, should I mourn the fact that they're still alive to talk to me about it? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/13 10:07 PM |
| 5 | My 12 year brother was ashamed to crySome Feminists also are Jets fans. Does that make sports fandom a tenet of feminism? If Jets fandom were a logical outgrowth of other beliefs integral to most forms of feminism, and a huge amount of feminist rhetoric and activism involved supporting the Jets, and the most common feminist response to the idea of men's rights was a stream of sneering ridicule about "teh poor New England Patriotz," I think it would be fair to say that Jets fandom was a tenet of feminism. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/13 01:46 AM |
| 4 | Female Reporter Demands Locker Room Interviews, Thinks Men Showering Nude to Make Her UncomfortableSure, but you're spending all day surrounded by guys who are also in that elite group. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/13 11:52 PM |
| 11 | Female Reporter Demands Locker Room Interviews, Thinks Men Showering Nude to Make Her UncomfortableI'm not so sure about that- when the need for a very high level of physical fitness is so central to your job and your life, I can imagine even the most trivial (or outright imaginary) flaws looming very large in some of their minds. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/13 11:40 PM |
| 2 | "Four out of five suicides are in working-age men and none of the policies that have been delivered are addressing that..."Rather, it is to understand how we end up with men of certain types whose rage to die is so strong and whose capacity to connect is so blunted. All the "capacity to connect" in the world is worthless unless there are other people willing to connect with you, and the contempt a man in distress often rouses in others-women no less than men- means that a man's supply of people who care about him and value him is usually inversely proportional to his need for such people. Perhaps we could try to und… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/13 02:35 AM |
| 3 | "Four out of five suicides are in working-age men and none of the policies that have been delivered are addressing that..."They're "equal" in the sense that a trip to the hospital to have your stomach pumped and death are equal- which is to say, not even remotely. Do you really think women are so stupid and inept that they're just as likely to seriously attempt to end their own lives as men and yet only a fourth as likely to actually pull it off? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/13 02:19 AM |
| 1 | OK. I still don't get it about this place and feminists.Feminists in India successfully lobbied to prevent female-perpetrated rape from being recognized and prosecuted as rape under Indian law. That was less than a year ago. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/13 02:47 AM |
| 3 | OK. I still don't get it about this place and feminists.The first two. Noisy protest. Protest is allowed. Disrupting an event by pulling a fire alarm isn't. In any case, you didn't ask what illegal things feminists have done. You asked about "bad" things. If I decided to get a bunch of guys together and start protesting at the funerals of feminists, Westboro Baptist Church style, I'd be perfectly within my legal rights. but I doubt you'd hesitate to consider it a "bad thing." | /r/MensRights | 31/08/13 02:44 AM |
| 4 | CNN guest jokes Chelsea Manning will get ‘good practice’ being a woman in prison [xpost /r/ainbow]Neuroplasticity, have you heard of it? If you're a man who constantly and obsessively reinforces observed behaviors of women in themselves and floods his own body with estrogen, your brain will reflect that over time. There are also detectable differences on MRIs in transexuals before they've actually started taking hormones. It can't be chalked up to taking lots of artificial estrogen, unless neuroplasticity's amazing powers extend to time travel. After David Reimer's penis was burned off and h… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/13 11:44 PM |
| 10 | CNN guest jokes Chelsea Manning will get ‘good practice’ being a woman in prison [xpost /r/ainbow]Besides, TG people have an illness. We should be looking for cures, not gratifying the disease by changing their pronouns/names. There's a reason they call it gender identity disorder. Based on research that's been done with autopsies, the problem seems to be that the neuroanatomy of trans people doesn't match the rest of their body- they're mostly physiologically male but have brain development more characteristic of females, or vice versa. The cure would be to make the body and brain a closer … | /r/MensRights | 29/08/13 01:37 AM |
| 7 | CNN guest jokes Chelsea Manning will get ‘good practice’ being a woman in prison [xpost /r/ainbow]It's a genetic thing. It's in your chromosomes and DNA. People with XY gonadal dysgenesis have a vagina, a uterus, and a Y chromosome. Their condition usually isn't even suspected until they reach their teens and fail to enter puberty naturally. They don't have functional ovaries, but if they've been given hormones to induce puberty and are implanted with a fertilized embryo they can become pregnant and give birth. Are they men? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/13 01:19 AM |
| 2 | People on the internet are assholes. It's not an issue, and it's certainly not a FEMINIST issue.You're being critical of her wording without giving her a chance to explain her perspective. If you take a moment to read it you will see that she is really only saying that more often than not women are singled out with sexual insults more so than men, Yes, let's take a moment to read it, since at this point the most charitable assumption I can make is that you've never actually read the post in question. Here's the context: So in the example case, she's not being mistreated because she's a wom… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/13 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Baffled by teen boys, experts keep trying to turn them into girls. Surprise — it’s not working.So. You're denying that the left can possibly ever fall into the negative indocrinating behaviors of the right? It's just not possible ever for the left to commit the same sins as the right? Who has suggested anything of the sort? Believing that the Left tries to engage in political indoctrination doesn't require believing your particular claims about how they do it. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/13 01:34 AM |
| 2 | People on the internet are assholes. It's not an issue, and it's certainly not a FEMINIST issue.I find it worth noting that practically all of the replies to /u/MakhSC[1] [-1]'s reply to this reply are oozing with sarcasm. Is sarcasm really the language of /r/mensrights[2] ? I see a person putting together what is (to them, and therefore honorable) a logical argument and being countered with nonsense and spiteful downvotes. What "nonsense?" I didn't see a single reply that didn't substantively address at least one of her points. The replies tended towards sarcasm because attempting civil, … | /r/MensRights | 28/08/13 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Male feminist falsely accused of rape, almost beaten by white knights because of it, still says false rape accusations aren't a problem and are very rareMore likely he's just callous and selfish. He got lucky, and escaped his predicament without serious, lasting harm- if other men and boys don't, it's not his problem. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/13 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Male feminist falsely accused of rape, almost beaten by white knights because of it, still says false rape accusations aren't a problem and are very rareWell, feminists are making a documentary called The Mask You Live In to draw attention to the struggles of men and boys in America That would be the one involving Jackson Katz and Michael Kimmel. If I announced that I was putting together a documentary to draw attention to the issue of slut-shaming, and I'd brought Rush Limbaugh, Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, and Roissy in DC in as consultants, how impressed by my little venture to help women would you be? | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Male feminist falsely accused of rape, almost beaten by white knights because of it, still says false rape accusations aren't a problem and are very rareThat was the most disturbing part, to me. Victimized men should just shut up, lest awareness of their existence give people dangerous ideas, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 11:43 PM |
| 6 | Woman denied haircut at men’s only barbershop in Westdale - filing human rights' complaint.Remember this post the next time you all are whining about men being denied access into WOMENS domestic violence shelters and hotlines. I don't want to hear any more bitching about "women only" this and that when clearly you all think it's perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on gender. If we lived in a world where barbershops received significant government funding, and there were no businesses that cut women's hair because discourse about hygiene was dominated by a group of vehement miso… | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 07:12 AM |
| 6 | Woman denied haircut at men’s only barbershop in Westdale - filing human rights' complaint.I think the true fear here is that a woman will come into your space and fit in better than some of the males. Come on, can't you do any better than "nyah nyah, you're a pussy?" | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 07:05 AM |
| 11 | Woman denied haircut at men’s only barbershop in Westdale - filing human rights' complaint.I don't believe for a second that she wanted the haircut in the first place, not with her political credentials. This is all about destroying a male space and teaching those uppity men a lesson. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 07:00 AM |
| 11 | Male feminist falsely accused of rape, almost beaten by white knights because of it, still says false rape accusations aren't a problem and are very rareIn my case, a single person claimed rape, and made statements of fact that were demonstrably false. This is decidedly not sufficient evidence to send anyone to jail. ...said the handsome white guy. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 12:49 AM |
| 3 | Feminist university newspaper article says there's no such thing as a good man in a patriarchy, and that all men oppress women by nothing more than existing. And more happy thoughts.They usually claim that the man being penetrated is basically a stand-in for women, so it's still really about misogyny, and therefore about victimizing women. They can and will twist absolutely anything into "proof" of women's oppression, no matter how ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Feminist university newspaper article says there's no such thing as a good man in a patriarchy, and that all men oppress women by nothing more than existing. And more happy thoughts.had any rights til 40 years ago, they couldn't even go to college and were looked upon as property by their fathers Women couldn't go to college until 1973? Try learning a little about the history of slavery and find out what being "looked upon as property" actually entails, before you say nonsense like this. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 12:10 AM |
| 3 | Only a Sith… a discussion of how Paul Myers “You’re with me or you’re against me” politics is destroying the atheist movementI just realized I had no idea what PZ Meyers' first name actually was until now. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/13 01:01 AM |
| 7 | Paul Elam of AVfM was recently interviewed by 20/20 and the woman behind the Facebook censorship campaignNo one said anything negative about women. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/13 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Media devalues men's lives in recent frontpage post: "The mass killing of the villagers -- mostly women and children -- is the worst case..."What's worth noting is that only four of the dead were women, while three were men, and the majority- nine- were children. "Mostly women and children" gives a very misleading impression, when the dead women outnumber the men by only one and so many children were killed that they comprise a majority of the victims all by themselves. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/13 01:58 AM |
| 3 | A boy forced to have sex with a teacher is "objectively lucky", not a victim of rape?guys guys guys come on now i can't be the only one hear who thinks ..... nicccccceeeee You do realize the South Park episode where the whole "nnniiiiiccccceee" meme started was mocking people like you, right? | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 11:54 PM |
| 12 | Does feminism contribute to male suicide?Over the years I've encountered a number of men, some with severe emotional problems, who initially turned to feminism because they'd been told that feminists were the people who didn't despise men for being weak or needing help, who accepted men who didn't fit with social expectations of what a man or boy should be, who understood that men weren't unfeeling machines or brute animals, all that crap. They learned the truth the hard way, often very painfully and brutally- and these guys generally … | /r/MensRights | 22/08/13 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Wow guys, it happened to someone I love.Can we see some more of these half-dozen? Because all you've linked to is an uncorroborated but entirely plausible story from someone with a writing style quite different from this thread's OP. The fact that they both started their post with "so"- something I've also done, it's a fairly common writing tic- and your own apparent contempt for men who complain about "evul women" aren't especially convincing. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/13 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Wow guys, it happened to someone I love.What rule of this subreddit is the OP violating, so that they would have any need for "tolerance?" | /r/MensRights | 21/08/13 11:55 PM |
| 5 | Wow guys, it happened to someone I love.The potential consequences of recklessly jumping on a bandwagon to condemn a specific, identifiable person are considerably more severe than those of condemning a completely unidentifiable person who- as you pointed out- may or may not even exist. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/13 11:46 PM |
| 2 | You don't see these in the ladies clothes department.When people come to this subreddit they should be able to easily tell what we're about, which is (in theory) not being the male equivalent to radfems, looking to take offense in every little thing, nor are we women haters, who exist solely to point out every time a woman does something bad, or posts something stupid on facebook. The male equivalent to radfems would be talking about how women are vicious, subhuman brutes and working to make sure that battered wives couldn't get help from the poli… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 03:20 AM |
| 1 | You don't see these in the ladies clothes department.Bringing up trivial shit like this is no better than what we call out radfems for doing. Hypocrisy at it's finest. What we call out radfems for includes things like denying the existence of male rape victims, psychologically abusing helpless boys with hate propaganda, or endorsing violence against men. If the worst thing they did was bitch about T-shirts, most of us would be ecstatic. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 03:13 AM |
| 0 | Christina Hoff Sommers: School Has Become Hostile to BoysThe sidebar simultaneously argues that feminism cannot approach men's problems and "there can be no common ground" between MRM and feminism, but (at least) 3/4ths of the sidebar suggested reading list is also from feminists. The sidebar argues that feminists fight against men's issues, but upvotes these articles about the feminists that fight for men and agrees with them. Changing the sidebar link to "Discussion on why feminism is not a solution for men's issues, unless by 'feminism' you mean th… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 03:02 AM |
| 1 | What the fuck did I just read?Tradesmen rort us. Whether they're changing a washer or grimacing under the car bonnet, tradesmen have mates' rates, actual rates and single career woman who-just-needs-it-done-and-doesn't-know-if-it-should-be-a-tenner-or-a-ton rates. And whose fault is that? Educating yourself about products and services you buy to get a better deal has costs, in time and effort if not in money; if you're not willing to make that investment, don't complain when you aren't just handed the rewards of those who di… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/13 11:57 PM |
| 6 | Toronto: Controversial men’s rights group fund raising for a Centre for Men and FamiliesI suppose it's a good thing that this is getting exposure, but seriously, fuck whoever wrote that article. McPhee is one of a small but swelling group who believe men have become the new underclass. He hopes to open a mancave that will serve as a refuge for his downtrodden brethren. "Mancave?" They quote McPhee a few paragraphs later talking about issues like male suicide rates and male abuse victims with nowhere to go, and they still just can't resist trotting out belittling terms like "mancave… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/13 02:51 AM |
| 4 | Rape scene in the video game Hotline Miami drawing criticismThe protagonist of the first Hotline Miami is a psychopath who brutally murder huge numbers of people with no moral justification whatsoever, and the critics couldn't stop gushing with praise for it, but an implied rape somehow crosses the line? I thought the original was kind of overrated, but I hope the creators don't back down to these assholes. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/13 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Myth of "women and children first" and Maritime Chivalry (x-post from r/feminisms because someone suggested it)If you ever manage to think of an actual criticism, I hope you'll contribute it. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/13 05:57 AM |
| 7 | Terrifying Nice Guys of OKCupidExactly. The whole anti-"nice guy" kick feminists have been on for the last few years is built around an incredibly dehumanizing view of males as malevolent sex-driven brutes incapable of human emotion. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/13 12:53 AM |
| 6 | JudgyBitch’s advice for feminist menAh, Meghan Murphy, she of "Can women rape men? I’m not sure I care” fame. A woman who is literally outraged when someone says that raping 11-year old boys is wrong. It’s not that I don’t think men can be feminist. I know many men who clearly align themselves with the feminist movement. The problem seems to be with men who self-identify as “feminist” as a means of gaining credibility or avoiding accountability. The problem is that many men who claim to be “good men” or to respect women, don’t act… | /r/MensRights | 15/08/13 12:43 AM |
| 11 | Misandrist double binds - calling a man misogynist for waiting for "enthusiastic consent" and also ignoring his lack of consent.HOWEVER, if your distrust of women gets to the point where you're saying that guys should literally be afraid to have sex because women expressing interest in them will probably try to ruin their lives, then there's something wrong with the way you're looking at women. Where is anyone making this claim about women in general? In the comics leading up to the one linked, the girl who propositioned the male character is clearly in emotional turmoil and says something along the lines of "do it now, … | /r/MensRights | 15/08/13 12:29 AM |
| 2 | I'm having a really interesting conversation with a feminist friend of mine right now (FB post)Saying that a man or boy being mistreated after being raped is anything "backfiring" is victim-blaming of the most despicable and dehumanizing sort- she doesn't even recognize victimized men and boys as being separate people from their (supposed) victimizers. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/13 04:40 AM |
| 29 | Myth of "women and children first" and Maritime Chivalry (x-post from r/feminisms because someone suggested it)Ballgame of Feminist Critics refuted this a while ago. Relevant links: Why ‘Women And Children First’ Was Not A “Myth” More On The ‘Women And Children First’ Era | /r/MensRights | 14/08/13 04:33 AM |
| 3 | "We can be victims, too!"Alright, I get it, not enough attention is given to male victims of rape. That's a problem, but guess what's a bigger problem right now? Men can't even help children in pickles because people might think they're a pedophile. What are you basing this claim on? | /r/MensRights | 12/08/13 03:29 AM |
| 11 | I found this on one of those facebook confession pages. It was a guy who posted it but everyone in the comments thought it was a girl.In fact, most feminists will tell you that society's idea of " oh boys can't be raped because all boys want sex always haha" is in itself a facet of rape culture. If that's the case, then why, when /r/crazyex said he'd posted about his experiences with female-perpetrated sexual abuse on a feminist subreddit, was your response: But something isn't quite right there...why would you post that information to a feminism subreddit? How was it relevant to feminism? I assume there were other motives tha… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/13 02:23 AM |
| 11 | I was told that I only support mens rights because I am not getting laid right now. How do I respond to that?If the person in question is a feminist, tell her she only believes that because she's a fat, ugly lesbian lashing out at men because she's bitter about how ugly and mannish-looking she is. If she's potentially worth talking with, she'll get the message that belittling people's opinions with asinine stereotypes and shaming people based on their supposed lack of sexual attractiveness is stupid; if not, you've lost nothing by offending her. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/13 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Hugo Schwyzer Attempts Suicide - Make of this what you will.He needs our sympathy, not our scorn; He's dedicated himself to discouraging sympathy for men and boys in need of it- many of whom needed it far more, and almost all of whom deserved it far more. I won't rob him of the fruits of his labor. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 09:40 AM |
| 3 | Infographic: 40% of rapists are femaleI am a scientist.I cannot stand arguing with average IQ people on reddit That's understandable. I'd probably be frustrated if I kept getting in arguments with people smarter than I am, too. 3) How can you force a men to penetrate you if you are a women ? 3a) I mean I am average in my strength. But very very few women could physically beat me in an actual physical fight. It's called sexual dimorphism, found across the board in great apes (including us). Know what else great apes are known for? To… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Infographic: 40% of rapists are femaleI don't see how it's really possible for a male adult to be raped by a female unless the female rapist(s) had some kind of weapon or the male victim was either on drugs or drunk. This is actually the case in most male-on-female rapes, as I recall- it's a crime usually carried out through intimidation, confusion, and selection of vulnerable (for instance, drunk) targets, not raw muscular might. So the fact that a woman might not be able to carry out a rape with nothing but her own unassisted stre… | /r/MensRights | 05/08/13 12:45 AM |
| 2 | Question for Men's Rights advocates: How does the men's rights movement differ from gender egalitarianism, if at all?My opinion is that a lot of feminists don't know the difference between "Fight the Patriarchy!" and "Fight the men! The men are bad!". I'm not sure there really is a difference, for the most part; "men, who are bad" is pretty much what "patriarchy" means in typical feminist usage. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 12:49 AM |
| 4 | They Mutilate Boys Don't They?There is nothing brutal about the procedure, although I can imagine having your cock infected because your parents didn't give a shit enough to get that taken care of and you can't properly keep yourself clean, that sounds pretty brutal. Most of the industrialized world has access to a somewhat less invasive medical procedure called "washing" that you might want to look into. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Damsel in Distress: Part 3 - Tropes vs Women in Video GamesFunny, I never see the pitchforks raised against the MRAs who actually ran away with the money from their Tropes vs. Men in Video Games Indiegogo that they claimed was going to charity. We're more interested in someone who's probably the world's best-known commentator on gender in video games than we are in an anonymous con artist whose ideas have no influence whatsoever? What horrible hypocrites we must be. Or against typhonblue, who just yesterday refused my request to know what her source was… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/13 12:33 AM |
| 3 | [Schadenfreude] Nobody likes poor Hugo - see the comments on the articleI wouldn't say he uses "patriarchy" or masculinity as an excuse, exactly. Rather, he uses it to claim that men in general are just as bad as he was, or worse- and hey haven't repented and overcome their natural wickedness, the way he has. Smearing filth on the rest of his sex makes him less dirty bu comparison. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/13 09:25 PM |
| 8 | "No boys allowed" - Feminists bait user even after mention of potential suicideChrist, that was awful. The very last thing a man in a feminist-dominated setting should ever do is admit to being in pain- it's like throwing your blood to the sharks. Hope he's OK. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/13 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Objectification and the "Male Power Fantasy" (on r/Masculism)Awesome, looking forward to digging into this. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/13 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Screenwriter Brian Lynch was wrongly profiled as a sexual predator, publicly humiliated, and asked to leave while with his female niece at World Market in Los Angeles.As part of the media, you obviously didn't intend for all that shit to blow back in your face. What has Brian Lynch written that's misandrist? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/13 02:04 AM |
| 16 | "Males cannot be raped" (Warning: This might upset you)It's a big, sensitive organ with a lot of nerves running through it, and vulnerable because it extends below the rib cage. Hurts like a bastard, comparable to be being hit in the groin, and the shock to the autonomic nervous system can cause a drop in heart rate that robs you of the energy to continue fighting. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/13 12:47 AM |
| -2 | Apparently bitching about other people's work is more important than the actual work. (x-post gaming)And GWW is a waitress, not a gender theorist. And to think, there are people who accuse feminism of being an elitist movement focused around the perspectives and experiences of upper-class white women. She's a hobbyist, an amateur polemicist who has zero academic credibility. That matters. Yes, unlike the academic gravitas of Anthony and Stanton's prestigious credentials at teenage girls' boarding schools, or Pankhurst's degree in Rich Husband Studies. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/13 01:09 AM |
| 9 | He was bullied, tortured and sprayed with urine in broad daylight (x-post worldnews)This should only be here if these things happened to him because he was a man. They did. To quote: Infamous Russian ultranationalist and former skin head, Maxim Martsinkevich, known under the nickname "Cleaver" (or "Tesak" in Russian) spearheaded a country wide campaign against LGBT teens using a popular social network VK.com to lure unsuspected victims through personal ads. Mr. Martsinkevich's numerous and enthusiastic followers started two projects: "Occupy Pedophilyaj" and "Occupy Gerontilyaj… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/13 12:37 AM |
| 1 | I’ll decide if you were raped, not youThat was really good. Hard to read- even knowing beforehand what the first part actually was- but really good. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/13 12:34 AM |
| 10 | "Why The 'End' of White Men Is Actually Good For White Men" by Jezebel. Makes me sick.Basically, Hugo Schwyzer is a man who really is the sort of monster so many feminists portray men as: Violent and exploitative towards women, spoiled rotten with benefits he doesn't deserve, disdainful of women's ability to behave rationally or responsibly, mercilessly cruel and callous to those he considers his inferiors (all human males who aren't Hugo Schwyzer, in this case.) Feminism gives him absolution of a sort, by telling him that his fellow men are just as vile as he is, or worse. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/13 12:08 AM |
| 13 | Just a matter of time: the gender nuts are disappointed Kate's baby is maleThis is repulsive. These assholes do understand that this is an actual human child whose existence they're publicly lamenting and not Disney making an announcement about casting the main character in the next fucking Star Wars movie, right? | /r/MensRights | 23/07/13 06:28 AM |
| 1 | "I'm a man, and I was raped." Translated from Norwegian newspaper.It's not rape if a person consents to sex while drunk and then regrets it later. The guy in the story was was asleep when the sex began; there was no consent at all, because none was possible. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/13 12:51 AM |
| 2 | "I'm a girl, we can do that..."I'm not afraid when I walk home at night, my female friends are. For a movement supposedly opposed to traditional gender norms, it's striking how often the things male feminists say about "privilege" sound indistinguishable from macho bragging. In any case, fear is not risk. I can't speak to the situation in Sweden, but in the United States men are far more likely than women to be victims of violent crime. If you limit yourself to street crime committed by strangers-the kind relevant walking hom… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/13 12:37 AM |
| 26 | 30yo Woman who stalked, drugged, 'held the boy down by his arms and they had rough sexual intercourse' and then fell pregnant is going to jail. Judge Anna Johns ... was addressing the matter in the same way she would if it was a male offender. Outstanding.I generally have no patience for the notion that the world would be better or more humane if only there were more women were in charge, but there is one exception: Female judges seem much less prone to coddling female perpetrators of fucked-up crimes like this, far less likely to treat them like some poor pitiful victim, and a lot more likely to come down full-force on them than male judges. Far fewer illusions about women being harmless or inherently innocent, no "I can't hit a girl" chivalry. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/13 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Is rape really 'a fate worse than death' - as stated in a UK government report?(Disclaimer, I've got a cock and balls in my pants that I grew all on my own! I'm male and heterosexual and have living offspring and a spouse, just to alleviate you of any confusion you might have at this point.) Not sure how any of that is supposed to be relevant or interesting, but since you brought it up: If, God forbid, any of them were raped, would you wish that their assailant had just put a bullet through their skull instead? Or, failing that, at least done so afterwards to spare them an… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/13 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do feminist pro-choicers attack men who want paper abortions with the same vitriole thrown at them?If the child, born or not born as your fellow MRA said is 100% my responsibility like you want it to be The child's existence is the woman's responsibility when she had the sole right and ability to prevent the original zygote from developing into that child, and din't. It doesn't follow that she should have sole right to it once it's been born, if the other parent is willing to support it- like you've said, it's not happening in your body, now is it? YOU"RE the one who keeps harping on other pe… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/13 11:21 PM |
| 1 | "Don't be that lying feminist" by GirlwriteswhatThere are definitely cases of women being falsely accused of molesting children; a number of female daycare workers were wrongfully imprisoned for it during the "Satanic abuse" hysteria of the 1980s, for instance. I've never heard of a case involving an adult male, though. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/13 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Apprentice finalist: 'I hate feminists'Only if you're the sort of imbecile who doesn't understand the difference between an ideological movement and a gender. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/13 12:30 AM |
| 1 | National Journal: "Do Women Make Better Senators Than Men?"The article illustartes the folly of the fixation on "getting things" done and the way so many people make a fetish of "bipartisanship." It's definition of "better" seems to revolve around the sheer quantity of legislation cranked out- something should be done, this is something, therefore this should be done. The author says that women produced this or that bill, or helped create a bipartisan consensus that saved some 1,000 page glob of new laws that might have failed otherwise. Were these good… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/13 12:55 AM |
| 2 | The double standard when women are the perpetrators and boys are the victimsShould raping an elderly woman, or a woman who is already pregnant, or a prepubescent girl be considered a lesser crime than raping a woman who can become pregnant, in your view? | /r/MensRights | 15/07/13 03:35 AM |
| 3 | Facebook friend posts a link to a GoodMenProject article thinking he is supporting men. This is my response.Is there no acceptable middle between people for men's rights and feminists? I've been trying really hard to find it, but I'm kind of lost now. I think I'm in some kind of feminist existential crisis here... halp You might want to check out the blog Feminist Critics. One of the two bloggers identifies as a feminist (albeit a rather heterodox one) and talking about these subjects with feminists or feminist-leaning people is a strong interest of theirs. There's a lot of good stuff on all sorts of … | /r/MensRights | 10/07/13 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Adam Sessler calls out 'Mensrights' in reference to a question posed regarding "online hate speech".No problem, I just wanted to make sure I hadn't expressed myself poorly and accidently made myself sound like I agreed with Crimson_D82's position. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Get your popcorn, folks: Five Reasons to Be a Feminist ManThe more feminist men there are, the fewer women will get raped. Seriously. Attempted murder by drug-addled narcissists, on the other hand... | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Adam Sessler calls out 'Mensrights' in reference to a question posed regarding "online hate speech".Were you trying to respond to Crimson_D82? | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Adam Sessler calls out 'Mensrights' in reference to a question posed regarding "online hate speech".You can use the term faggot as an insult rather than knocking someone for being gay, it's called slang. Just like redneck can mean stupid without referring to someone who lives in the country. Your example makes the opposite of your intended point. Redneck is used as an insult precisely because it evokes the stereotype of people from the country being stupid and ignorant. Everyone here understands that most uses of "faggot" as an online insult are not literally claims that a person is homosexual… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 12:30 AM |
| 7 | How would you guys respond to this reply from a feminist who was asked why we don't have an 'gender equality' movement instead of feminism?Think about it: when men are being treated poorly, it's usually because they're either being treated like women or told they should avoid being like women. When women are being treated poorly, it's usually because they're either being treated like men or told they should avoid being like men. Women are called "sluts" for being sexually assertive, promiscuous, or openly pursuing her desires- traditionally male traits. Similarly, people who dislike women for being assertive, ambitious, forceful, a… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 12:07 AM |
| 1 | New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & AbuseAnd I suppose that black civil rights campaigners should collect and disseminate statistics about how awful whites are. If racism against blacks is getting support from the belief that awfulness is a "black" behavior that whites are just too inherently nice to engage in, absolutely. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/13 11:39 PM |
| 1 | New Study Finds Girls Excel at Devious Bullying & AbuseIn many important men's rights issues, such as the treatment of male victims of domestic violence, rape , and abuse, much of the problem comes from people assuming that women are by nature kinder, more loving, and more moral than men. This leads to people ignoring or blaming victims of female perpetrators, because women supposedly don't do things like that or would only do it if the victim had done something to deserve it. Tearing down the myth of female moral superiority is necessary for these … | /r/MensRights | 06/07/13 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Dr. Isis: "The Straight, White Dudes’ Guide to Discussing Diversity"Rule #1: Don't attempt to discuss diversity with people who call men "dudes." | /r/MensRights | 05/07/13 11:34 PM |
| 8 | Election Researcher lashes out against norwegian "pirate party" due to lack of women - calls them a "bunch of nerds looking like they are on a computer conference" and berates them for lack of "feminist profile".And pardon me for thinking social justice movements might want to excise hate from their ranks. That's a strange thing to believe; supporters of self-identified "social justice" movements haven't shown much interest in that before. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/13 11:53 PM |
| 4 | Reddit WorstOf- OP submits meme praising his wife, has his character and dedication to his family almost unanimously attacked and questioned by redditors as OP is forced to be away from his family to provide monetarily for them.This realy helps highlight something important- many people's conception of what constitutes love, devotion, and loyalty is extremely gynocentric, judging everyone according to how closely they fit the traditional wife/mother role while disparaging things that are typically the province of men. Staying at home caring for a child is recognized as an expression of how much you care; going out and toiling to feed and clothe and provide for that child and its mother isn't. This sort of thing is wher… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/13 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Carter backs forced male circumcision in Africa, but says "African cultures mutilating the genitals of young girls .. leaders passively accept violence against women."Female circumcision has no health benefits- Have any actual studies on this been done? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/13 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Blogged something insightful, got a ridiculous response.It's popularly associated with nerdiness/dorkiness nowadays, and behind the empty rhetoric feminists typically despise unmasculine men at least as much as the "patriarchy" they supposedly want to destroy. If modern online feminism had existed back in the 1980s, the feminist stereotype of an MRA would have been a guy with a pocket protector and big coke bottle glasses. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/13 01:23 AM |
| 3 | 21 yo Babysitter fucks 14 yo kids. light sentence, etc, because she's femaleWake up, your sisters aren't the enemy. Nobody so much as hinted otherwise. If you're going to support rape culture, at least go about it honestly. Know why my sister isn't my enemy? Because she's a decent person who doesn't do reprehensible shit like sexually abuse minors she's been entrusted with authority over. Why are you so eager to defend women who do that? I'd hate to live with this deranged paranoia some of you guys have where you feel victimized as straight white males. Holy shit. No on… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/13 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Seeking to outlaw infant male circumcision in Australia - advice?If you have a choice whether to be circumcised or not then I don't see why it should be outlawed We agree! That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, however, unless the decision-making faculties of infants have improved dramatically since I was a kid. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Seeking to outlaw infant male circumcision in Australia - advice?Whats so wrong with removing the foreskin, or not removing it for that matter it makes little to no difference in the course of that individuals life. There's a simple rule I live by: If there's no reason to chop off part of somebody else's body without their permission, I don't chop off parts of their body without their permission. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 11:18 PM |
| 4 | "Google Glass's White Male Problem." WHAT?!A white male from Silicon Valley using a wearable computer? Super nerdness overdose. Let's mock it! Precisely. Note also the author's gratuitous swipe at the appearances of these men- how is the fact that a lot of them are balding relevant to the supposed problem here? Are men with full heads of hair an oppressed minority now, too? If a bald man ever tells me his opinion about hats or shampoo, should I angrily accuse him of scalpsplaining? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/13 12:45 AM |
| 13 | Talking to a feminist friend, she said she thinks that MRAs are a hate group and likened them to the KKKHatred of men isn't really the problem. The more common mentality I see among feminists is not so much "hurt men and boys because it's good when they suffer," but "hurt men and boys because it's convenient and it doesn't matter if they suffer." It's like stepping on and breaking twigs while walking down the sidewalk- I have nothing against twigs, I wish them no ill, but if the shortest distance between me and my goal is over their broken wreckage, why wouldn't I step on them? They have no moral … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/13 12:21 AM |
| 3 | I have been active on these issues for over 15 years. I am tired of beating my head against a brick wall. I'm done.If chivalry is really about what you say, its purposes could be served just as effectively by doing these things for other men. Yet it doesn't work out that way. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/13 11:53 PM |
| 2 | I have been active on these issues for over 15 years. I am tired of beating my head against a brick wall. I'm done.I'm sorry to hear this, but I understand. I've enjoyed your contributions here. Take care. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/13 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Sodomy hazing leaves victim, 13, as outcast (r/news)"it'll toughen him up, therefore its okay." It astonishes me how many "strong," "manly" men (and female enthusiasts and enforcers of that masculine ideal) see nothing askew about expecting a child to endure things that would lead to felony charges and prison sentences if done to an adult like them. Or, put another way, that so many adults who claim to believe in the value of strength, stoicism, and self-reliance would go crying to the police or some other authority figure in the face of somethin… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/13 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Rape accuser can't remember much? Doesn't seem upset? Situation normal, prosecute at will!I don't disagree with anything you're saying here, and I didn't intend to defend the article- it's starting premise, that it's "rape culture" to be wary of the possibility of false or mistaken accusations, is dangerous nonsense. But our skepticism needs to be informed by a sound understanding of what's a good reason to distrust a claim, and what isn't. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/13 07:42 AM |
| 1 | I've noticed a trend in the media: The sexualization of male friendship.I've seen it used in various ways, but in most of my encounters with the term "bromance" has come across as, if not outright hostile, then at least belittling. It mostly seems like a word for people who don't want to sound (and perhaps genuinely aren't) homphobic, but still hold close attachments between men in disdain anyway. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/13 03:16 AM |
| 14 | Rape accuser can't remember much? Doesn't seem upset? Situation normal, prosecute at will!I would advise against putting too much stock on how upset the alleged victim seems to be. It's actually not too uncommon for people who've been genuinely traumatized to seem unemotional about it. Some people are just particularly reserved, and sometimes actually consciously feeling what it would seem appropriate to feel is a luxury you can't afford, because if you did it would crush you. I've gotten really pissed off after getting my ass unexpectedly kicked playing XCOM. I get nervous and shaky… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/13 12:00 AM |
| 10 | Why do YOU need men's rights? What specific cause do you believe in?They can't have orgasms and never had one, so of course they don't feel like they lost anything. This is completely false, even in the case of more extreme forms of female circumcision. Should I be mad about something like say my height which I also have no control over? Should anyone be mad about any damage or mutilation inflicted on their body as a child, equally beyond their control? | /r/MensRights | 19/06/13 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Owning Your Shit: Okay, I really wasn't interested in doing this, but... | Karen (GirlWritesWhat) talks about The Wooly Bumblbee AVFM drama on her blog.I witnessed it when I called out the disgusting rape apologetics and victim blaming when James Landrith shared his story. In fact my account was "temporarily suspended" when I committed the "crime of calling out Angry Harry and a couple of others for the type of disgusting rhetoric which would have been slammed had it come from a feminist. Wait, what? If you're talking about the discussion thead at AVfM after Landrith's article, Elam came down on Angry Harry like a ton of bricks for the way Harr… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/13 01:02 AM |
| 5 | Great radio discussion on the role of fathers and boys in today's world. "Very important that it not become an anti-feminist discourse""Women" are a sex. "Feminists" are adherents of an ideology. They are not the same thing. Your repeated conflation of the two is not doing your credibility in this subreddit any favors. Remember the third law of motion; when an object exerts force on another, the second will react with equal and opposing force. Ah, but the law of conservation of energy dictates that the amount of energy in a closed system can never be increased, so the more hostile MRAs are towards feminists, the less hostility … | /r/MensRights | 17/06/13 04:00 AM |
| 5 | Emmanuel Goldstein says The Men’s Rights Movement Is No Place For Men, and as an old-timer in the MRM, I think he makes a lot of good pointsStony Brook University recently erected a men’s studies department, headed by Michael Kimmel, to the delight of MRAs. And that was the sentence where any lingering hope I might have had that the author wasn't a liar or an idiot died, like a crippled horse given a merciful double-tap to the head. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/13 12:21 AM |
| 7 | 14 y/o firmly and calmly stands up to his mother so he can go live with his dad. (Possible domestic violence, false allegations)Now it's "manipulative" for a father to give his child reassurance and positive encouragement after bravely enduring a very difficult, emotionally harrowing situation? Not all that long ago, my father told me he was impressed by how calm and collected I was after I'd called 911 and given the dispatcher a detailed explanation of a medical emergency in progress a few feet away. That meant a lot to me, and I'm a grown-ass man. Kids need that even more. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 11:57 PM |
| 3 | Patriarchy, but...the least powerful roles are held predominantly by women Most prisoners and homeless people are male. Almost all conscripts are male. women devalued for their supposed lack of control women are assumed to need men's supervision, protection, or control. Women are protected and cared for to a far greater extent than men. They are valued less than men in some ways, more in others. Aspects of society and personal attributes that are highly valued are associated with men, while devalued attributes an… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 05:58 AM |
| 3 | "[MRA] should try shutting the fuck up"Feminists are just about the last people on this planet who should be criticizing anything on the grounds that it "discourages emotional expression" among men. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 01:55 AM |
| 3 | The "men can stop rape" poster is submitted to r/WTF: the comments section is full of posts defending the generalization of men as rapistsI've yet to see a satisfactory explanation of why "satire" is a magic word that makes saying that male rape victims (and female victims of other women, who are at least nominally people feminists care about the well-being of) either weren't really raped or are to blame for being raped. I'd have more respect for feminists of your ilk if they'd just outright say that they don't think there's anything wrong with those messages. Shitting on rape victims and then defending it on the grounds of how fu… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/13 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Circumcision: "Sometimes it seems like every boy is born with a coupon for $300 on the end of his penis..."Who the he'll are you to tell them what customs ry can and can't engage in? The world police? Cultural relativism is a two-edged sword, you know. Perhaps it's the custom of wherever /u/echoie is from to opine on the customs of other cultures. Who are you to tell him he can't, the world police? | /r/MensRights | 07/06/13 10:37 PM |
| 1 | How dare women be victimized for 3 minutes while you brutally kill millions of men in video gamesWho said anything about being conflicted? Of course you're not encouraged to feel conflicted about all the men you kill in a game like Call of Duty, or think about how little choice they probably have when they die fighting you. You're not typically encouraged to think about them as anything but threats and targets. Nevertheless, that is the implicit background in a military scenario, and such scenarios are extremely common so it's absurd to say that the men you kill in games"almost always have … | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 04:25 AM |
| 1 | MRAs really should cut down on name-calling. It only helps our enemies.It's not semantics. To say that the SPLC condemns us because of harsh MRA rhetoric implies that, if we were nicer, the SPLC would be appeased. They wouldn't be; they'd find some other pretext, or invent one. Also, the page you link doesn't say anything about that. It just says that we're a hate group because we think women attack men as much as men attack women, and that a large portion of rape claims are actually false. They "debunk" the idea that men and women are victims of sexual violence at… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 03:43 AM |
| -1 | MRAs really should cut down on name-calling. It only helps our enemies."Enemy" is such a negative term though. Of course it is. When describing something negative- like a person who despises and dehumanizes you for what you were born as, hates what you hold dear, and shamelessly spreads vicious lies about you- a negative term is appropriate. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 03:01 AM |
| 1 | MRAs really should cut down on name-calling. It only helps our enemies.When mainstream feminism actually rejects and condemns feminists like the thugs disrupting attempts to discuss men's issues at the University of Toronto, or male rape apologists like Meghan Murphy and Hugo Schwyzer, or the ones who recently successfully fought against recognizing female-on-malerape as rape in India- as opposed to just squealing "NAFALT!" when they're called out for their conspicuous failure to push back against such feminists- perhaps we can talk. As it is now, feminist calls fo… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 02:36 AM |
| 0 | MRAs really should cut down on name-calling. It only helps our enemies.we have been listed as a hate group by the SPLC because the brutal rhetoric and insults tossed around by some in the movement cater perfectly to the stereotypes they wish to uphold. The SPLC's condemnations of MRAs includes things like the fact that MRAs actually count forced envelopment as rape, and include it in discussions of sexual violence. The SPLC are shameless smear artists, and were so long before they turned their attention to MRAs. Don't confuse their excuses with their reasons. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 02:17 AM |
| 1 | MRAs really should cut down on name-calling. It only helps our enemies.The impact of a word can change radically depending on who's saying it, though. To give a much less extreme example, I typically have no problem with the word "dude." However, when a feminist uses the word my willingness to be civil to them usually drops drastically, because they're typically not using it as a good-natured synonym for "guy" or "man;" they're using it to belittle. The identity of the speaker gives the word different implications. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 02:01 AM |
| 2 | How dare women be victimized for 3 minutes while you brutally kill millions of men in video gamesThe men a player kills in a video game almost always have agency. Each is a man acting on their own will. In pretty much any game where you're fighting military personnel, you're killing men who are part of a hierarchical organization that they will be imprisoned, killed, or otherwise punished for leaving or disobeying, and which they very likely had no choice about joining to begin with. And that covers a LOT of games. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 12:45 AM |
| 0 | A Feminist admits Feminist men turn her off."And the thing is, men are hurt by sexism. Rigid gender roles, for example, aren't healthy for anyone." Why would we note that? It's the same boilerplate we've seen a hundred times. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Male feminist invades a /r/bestof post about MensRights that came from a post that I made in /r/Toronto yesterday about feminists trying to shut down MensRights groups in Canada. He tries to argue that MRAs include terrorists and mass murderers and his comments are not received very well.The theory of feminism is all about equality. And if the theory of feminism ever descends from the Platonic World of Forms to actually promote equality down here on Earth, we'll be the first to praise it. Until then, we're stuck with the consequences of what flesh-and-blood people have said and done. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/13 01:41 AM |
| 7 | Male feminist invades a /r/bestof post about MensRights that came from a post that I made in /r/Toronto yesterday about feminists trying to shut down MensRights groups in Canada. He tries to argue that MRAs include terrorists and mass murderers and his comments are not received very well.It's not even that. It's more like "Stalin was an atheist, atheists don't believe in Jesus, ergo Jews are horrible people." | /r/MensRights | 03/06/13 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Karmaisforsuckers comments on SPLC trashes Earl Silverman's legacy. "Another Men’s Rights Activist Suicide Exploited by Ideologues"exploit the tragic death of an individual You're so contemptuous of male abuse victims that you based your username around mockery of them. Fuck off with your crocodile tears. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/13 01:32 AM |
| 3 | I think I prefer this versionPart of that is because the assumed sex, when neutral, is male. And that's why the sign says "Teach your son to respect men," right? And why there was that recent controversy over the Violence Against Men Act. And why military actions that kill "men and children" are considered especially horrifying and depraved. | /r/MensRights | 03/06/13 12:38 AM |
| 3 | Welp, time to stop visiting IGNI didn't do that. But having a game where the female characters are nothing but eye candy is a bit alienating to half the worlds population, many of which would probably play video games if it wasn't such a boys club. Then why have women become a larger percentage of the gaming market over the years and not a smaller one? When I was a kid, the main "character" in a significant percentage of games was a spaceship or tank or some other form of vehicle. It was a golden age of gender-neutral gaming … | /r/MensRights | 01/06/13 06:57 AM |
| 2 | I feel trapped.Be sure to look up your jurisdiction's laws on recording without the other party's knowledge; they vary from place to place, and you need to make sure you don't end up giving her a legal weapon to use against you. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/13 06:13 AM |
| 19 | In light of the cracked.com article - What can *we* do to improve our image?I don't think there's anything we can do about it, really. Warren Farrell is as conciliatory and non-angry as anyone could want, and look at the response he got. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/13 01:01 AM |
| 2 | The Double Standard I have the hardest time withThe foreskin itself can cause problems in later years, if you are unfortunate enough to suffer it, and you either do, or you don't, it's a growth-defect that then leads to circumcision as a teenager, which has been empirically observed as far worse for the male. Stay safe rather than be sorry, and all that. Breast cancer kills hundreds of thousands of women every year. Should we be "safe rather than sorry?" | /r/MensRights | 31/05/13 01:08 AM |
| 1 | doesn't get much more absurd than this, fellas.You come into a subreddit, announce your contempt for it, and then get indignant when your hostility is met with hostility. What a repellent sense of entitlement you have. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 01:25 AM |
| -1 | Being a man is playing life on easy modeAnd yes, men are raped as well, but men aren't victim blamed or slut-shamed for it (read the men rape stories on here if you don't believe me). What an incredibly ignorant statement. "If he didn't want it, he'd have fought her off." "If he didn't want it, he wouldn't have had an erection." "He can't have not wanted it, because any man will fuck anything female." "If he's weak enough to let that happen, he's pathetic." "If he's weak enough to actually be bothered by it, he's pathetic." And so on … | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Being a man is playing life on easy modeReally? You should get in touch with Kelly Thomas and give him the good news. He was white, or at least he was before his face was reduced to a reddish-purplish-blackish pulp, so I'm sure he'll be relieved to discover he's not actually dead. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Being a man is playing life on easy modeI'd expect most Canadians more than a few years old so to know that there are countries other than Canada in the world, and that some of them might have different laws than Canada. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 04:37 AM |
| 10 | "If a woman rapes a man, and has the kid, she can still collect child support." Please tell me this is not true..That's not it working "the other way." The gender- reversed equivalent would be if a female rape victim was compelled to pay her rapist a substantial part of her income on a regular basis for the next 18 years | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:10 AM |
| 3 | DAE think Kaitlyn Hunt should go to jail for having sex with a 14 year old, and the fact that the relationship is same sex doesn't change that fact?I'm not sure using the protagonists of one of the world's most famous tragedies as your example is the best idea. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/13 11:40 PM |
| 6 | Video: California Man Dies After Female Cop Hits Him With Baton 10 Times!A great deal of misandry comes from the notion that women are naturally gentle, and that brutality and aggression are male traits. Some men and boys- battered husbands, rape victims, and abused children, among others- pay a very high price because of it. Attacking the popular prejudice by drawing attention to counterexamples is certainly relevant to men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/13 11:31 PM |
| 10 | I don't know why I expected a discussion on the matterEspecially if the feminist says something like, "watch out, you're going to get hit by that car." "...and that would be terrible because it would make your mom upset, and your wife would have to deal with all those funeral expenses, and a female pedestrian might get chunks of you splattered on her clothes and have to go to the dry cleaners..." | /r/MensRights | 26/05/13 05:44 AM |
| 1 | I Need Feminism Because...Actually, most do recognize battered men. Most non-radfems accept the theoretical possibility of men being victims of domestic violence and nominally disapprove. They're still indifferent or hostile to battered men in the real world. If you walk down the street at night you are way less likely to be raped. The great majority of victims of violent crime are male. The most recent CDC study of sexual violence- one which feminists themselves routinely cite, albeit misleadingly- shows men and women b… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/13 01:00 AM |
| 0 | I Need Feminism Because...You realize that most modern feminists hate radfems and the second wave right? They are highly transphobic and have cery different views from the third wave on a lot of things. Yes, the average member of the Third Wave significantly differs from the Second Wave on issues other than the one oneirosgrip was talking about. The fact that Third Wavers don't usually hate trans women has hasn't made them take subjects like battered men any more seriously. The fact that feminists will attack each other … | /r/MensRights | 25/05/13 10:12 AM |
| 1 | We need to “teach men not to rape” 1) Implies only men rape (or 90%+). 2) Implies the default state of men is “do rape” until told not to. ~Schala"Teaching men not to rape" implies that rape is a learned behaviour That's ridiculous. Does teaching children to read imply that illiteracy is learned? Does teaching immigrants to America English imply that not knowing the language was somehow "learned?"? No. If an entire group needs to be taught something, the presumption is that in the absence of such intervention they will be the opposite. It is an egalitarian, non-essentialist position when paired with "teach women not to rape, as well". Whi… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 04:37 AM |
| 1 | A Male Survivor's Perspective on Rape CultureAll of the academic studies I've seen about rape culture So what? That is not the only, or even primary, context where the expression is used. It's not the one relevant to the OP. Nor is it where it originated. The meaning "rape culture" might have as a term of art among certain social scientists does not change its meaning in settings where the vast majority of people are exposed to it- in this case, feminist discourse. And in that context, the term is 1. not gender neutral, and 2. carries the … | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 01:21 AM |
| 3 | What proportion of /r/mensrights subscribers agree that posts wholly unrelated to men and their rights don't belong here?A successful movement for men's rights will, by necessity, have to attack feminism's current dominance of the discourse about gender and it's claims to be the solution to sexism. (Even if we ought to be thinking of feminists as potential allies, as some would argue, their current hegemony needs to be broken.) Pointing out problems with feminism that don't directly involve men's rights is still relevant to fighting for those rights. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/13 04:22 AM |
| 1 | This guy seems to know what's going onThat was heartening, thanks for posting it. I'm going to check out his LPs. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/13 06:20 AM |
| 4 | This guy seems to know what's going onAnd only an hour after smugly announcing that men's problems are "results of the patriarchy that feminism is already fighting against," too. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/13 06:06 AM |
| 2 | 17 year old woman abusing orphanage boys while laughing about it. Graphic VideoIf it was a male worker beating female children, would you be okay if a bunch of feminists suddenly made it a feminist issue? This implies a similarity between the situations that doesn't exist. No one assumes that men can't be abusive. No victims of child abuse are being ignored because of people assuming that abusers are always or almost always women. Feminists don't need to point out random incidents of males behaving violently towards females because everyone already knows that males can and… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/13 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Happy mother's day...Not. After posting this, I thought it would be better here.Would it be a feminist issue if a girl's dad had kept her away from her mother for years and been a bad parent? If this occurred in a parallel universe where abusive fathers were often left to free to abuse children because of widespread sexist assumptions about men being inherently more moral and loving than women, absolutely. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/13 02:00 AM |
| 5 | So I had a training seminar today...They also illustrated how men don't have to worry about anything at night, and that nighttime is dangerous only for women. Ask them why the LGBT center is trying to cover up homophobic violence against gay men. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 11:14 PM |
| 1 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps the ability to fight for your country might be a good thing Describing being forced to do something without your consent as an "ability" is grotesquely dishonest. Do you talk about the "ability" of rape victims to have sex with their rapists, too? | /r/MensRights | 11/05/13 11:25 PM |
| 3 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Lots of people seriously would want women to be drafted rather than abolishing the draft if given the choice. What are you basing that on? | /r/MensRights | 11/05/13 11:08 PM |
| 3 | Tried to explain to a girl I've known for years about what men's rights entails, she responds by telling me "I think you just hate women."The only person who mentioned "women" is the person accusing the OP of misogyny. The OP and typhonblue referred to the behavior of feminists. Ideological affiliations are not genders, no matter how much feminists try to conflate the two. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/13 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Feminists continue to promote male genital mutilation.Feminists do not, generally, promote circumcision. They're generally, when they venture an opinion on it, anti-anti-circumcision: They don't usually advocate advocate it, but when they talk about it it's usually to downplay its seriousness or belittle the idea of anybody considering it a big deal. Case in point: FGM and MGM are treated separately because female genital mutation is performed for different reasons than male circumcision, and is more damaging. Male circumcision among gentiles in th… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/13 05:56 AM |
| 1 | How Harvey Mudd College is closing the computer science gender gap: "Know-it-alls in any section are told to cool it so no one is intimidated." Humiliating males empowers females?In the beginning classes, "you don’t get these super macho students who raise their hands all the time and know the answer to everything all the time," computer science department chair Ran Libeskind-Hadas told eSchoolNews. "That’s not a very welcoming atmosphere for less experienced students." It's stunning how oblivious these people are to their own misogyny. If knowing important information and being willing to share it when someone asks is "macho," then being un-macho would entail being igno… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/13 03:08 AM |
| 1 | I've been thinking of a way to say this over the last few days, justicar expresses here my thoughts better than I could have hoped to.If an argument is reasonable there should be no need to appeal to anything but the argument itself. Only if the audience is reasonable. No one is perfectly so, and many people don't even come close. Emotional appeals are like weapons: People shouldn't ever need them, but that fact won't help you if you insist on limiting yourself to polite conversation while somebody is swinging a machete at you. Appealing to emotion is what radical ideologues do. It's what gender feminists do. And those gender … | /r/MensRights | 03/05/13 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do people not take men's rights seriously?When the issue you bring up is, “But I’M always expected to pay for dates! So we're not taken seriously because our detractors can't be bothered to pay attention to what we actually say, and instead just mindlessly regurgitate whatever ignorant bullshit they hear on Tumblr? Depressingly plausible. I hate that men are raped and don’t report it because it makes them feel emasculated. As is typical of feminists' token acknowledgements of men's problems, this is victim-blaming masquerading as compas… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 05:35 AM |
| 7 | Feminist Reaction to the tragic death of Earl Silverman on Salon.Even you admit "other fairly well-known feminists of the day," which was a period of time where violence was a significant part of political culture. I mean, Valerie shot Warhol two months after James Earl Ray had shot Dr Martin Luther King, Jr. Along with this, people were dying all over America because of political violence, for example, the Baltimore riot (6 deaths), DC riots (12 deaths), Chicago riots (39 deaths), and Louisville riots (2 deaths). So Second Wave feminists weren't worse than m… | /r/MensRights | 30/04/13 06:25 AM |
| 5 | Feminist Reaction to the tragic death of Earl Silverman on Salon.The idea that men need liberation is preposterous. I'm male, white and middle-class, I have never had any obstacle in life on account of these traits. And so you're helping stomp down men less privileged and fortunate than yourself, because if it isn't your problem it doesn't matter. Just another spoiled bully. Congratulations. Also, since the subject at hand is men's rights, the fact that you've never been harmed by being white or middle-class is irrelevant, unless you see those things as inext… | /r/MensRights | 30/04/13 06:06 AM |
| 3 | Oh that was painful? Well child birth is worse.A few days ago: yes, MRA's man, i can't tell you how there over entitled, whiney bullshit bugs the hell out of me. Every single thread about women issues, or news about a rape, or anything, anytime that might have to do with women these knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, genetic throwbacks turn up and start Haaaaw-ing about how "GUYS GET THIS TOOOO". They are like some ugly, slightly aggressive dog that does nothing but shit on other peoples carpets. Today: I came here to get better educated as … | /r/MensRights | 30/04/13 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Owner of shelter for abused men and children commits suicide after financial ruin, ridiculeAlso, I think that the vast majority of young women consider themselves feminists. Pretty sure this isn't true. The aversion of many women to calling themselves "feminists" is something feminist commentators have been lamenting for some time. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/13 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Owner of shelter for abused men and children commits suicide after financial ruin, ridiculeIs the author a feminist? The site's About Us page makes just say's it a publication for women and makes no claims about ideological affiliation. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/13 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Feminist Reaction to the tragic death of Earl Silverman on Salon.And why are they less likely to report? Society has it that men should be strong and women weak, so men would feel emasculated if they reported. Well, partly, though this is hardly the new insight for people involved in the MRM that you seem to think it is. They also probably know that there's a very strong chance that reporting wouldn't actually do them any good, and may well do them considerable harm. Feminists frequently try to sweep the actual external conditions these men face under the rug… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/13 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Jezebel is creepily pro-circumcision.Westboro Baptist is a group of less than 100 people who are almost universally condemned and despised by other Christians. Jezebel is comfortably mainstream. They're not even remotely comparable. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/13 01:15 AM |
| 20 | Jezebel is creepily pro-circumcision.They're bullies enjoying the pain and helplessness of people weaker than themselves. Widespread circumcision is a monument to just how little male suffering, autonomy, and bodily integrity actually matters in our society; it's only natural that the sort of people who congregate in a place like Jezebel would be fans. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Typhon Blue: Welcome to the Good Ship Fuck Their Shit UpI can understand that peaceful protest can sometimes mean voices fail to get heard, but the language and tone of articles such as this only incites hatred and antagonism. Any language and tone from MRAs "incites" hatred and antagonism. The folks trying to talk about men's issues at the University of Toronto have been as nice as you could ask, and their reward has been screaming mobs, relentless slander, and criminal acts to disrupt their meetings. Did Martin Luther King go around saying "Let's f… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/13 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Nice to see some pushback against the feminists trying to take over the gaming / nerdy communityA lot of people here have a problem with a lot of things. Especially if you're a woman or a feminist. Because apparently if you're a woman, you're automatically a feminist. Yes, that's why GirlWritesWhat and Typhonblue are such reviled figures here. Congratulations, you've cracked the code. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 05:29 AM |
| 3 | Nice to see some pushback against the feminists trying to take over the gaming / nerdy communityI'm being a completely reasonable person here (well, at least I'm trying to be, anyway). I'm not blaming anybody, and I'm being pretty neutral about everything. I've even been avoiding gendered terms, but I'm still getting accused of "blaming men," even when I use non-gendered terms like "people." I sympathize, and I don't think you deserve the hostility you're getting, but you have to understand the context of all this. Suppose you were part of a predominantly female community that had recently… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Another influential journalist defames /r/mensrights - we need to educate people like this and show them the positivity of our movement.I agree that /u/Crosshook's post was asinine, but no, that sort of thing isn't what makes people call this subreddit a sewer. Most feminist anti-MRA rhetoric is so utterly divorced from reality- whether from ignorance or mendacity or both- that what we actually say and do doesn't really seem to make any difference. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/13 10:57 PM |
| 3 | It still makes me sick that this is always their go to.(Cross-post r/creepyPMs)Terminological nitpick: This is closer to extortion than to blackmail. Threatening to make a false accusation of a crime isn't just threatening the victim's reputation, it's threatening physical violence at the hands of the extortionist's (in this case unwitting) confederates. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/13 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Woman who works at College Admissions Rejects Students for "Dripping with White Male Privilege"This seems like an elaborate troll. I refuse to believe to believe that anyone proclaiming herself a "secular humynist" is actually serious. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMCircumcision among gentiles in the Western world arose from moral panics about the supposed health effects of masturbation. The effects on sexual function are not "incidental." I mean, mastectomies surely have an effect on a woman's sexual experience, but no one is arguing that mastectomies are performed to control their sexuality. That's because mastectomies are mostly performed on women with breast cancer. If they were routinely done on huge numbers of infant girls without any medical problems… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMInteresting that quite a few people are upset that the blog chooses to use circumcision to refer to a procedure performed on men's penis, and FGM to refer to a procedure performed on women's vagina. And yet, when men harm women through manipulation of reproduction, it's called "reproductive abuse," but when women manipulate men it's called "spermjacking." It's only interesting if it's actually true. Where, exactly, are large numbers of MRAs engaging in this double standard? Additionally, it's no… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 02:03 AM |
| 2 | Feminists discuss Male Circumcision and the MRMThe term "spermjacking" is mostly an SRS thing, used as a form of mockery; I can't recall the last time I actually saw the word being used to express disapproval of the act it describes. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 01:47 AM |
| 1 | CityNews Toronto covers the U of T feminist protest against a discussion of misandry. And does a pretty balanced job of it.I don't agree with /u/HeraldOfRevolution's position, but unless he's gone to ridiculous lengths to to pretending to be an MRA to create a deceptive post history over the last few days he's almost certainly legit. He doesn't deserve this sort of accusation. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/13 01:40 AM |
| 1 | So I confronted my molester, and this is what I get in return. (It seems as though I'm uncertain, but my cousin (light blue) knew and confirmed that this was her)'ll probably get downvoted to hell because of this, but whatever happened to forgiveness? What happened to justice? To moral responsibility? To the fact that grave wrongs don't magically stop hurting their victims because someone says they're sorry? To not siding with an aggressor against their innocent victim because that victim actually stood up for himself in some small way? Hell, what happened to at least expecting someone to repent before being forgiven? will hopefully never have to experie… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/13 01:18 AM |
| 2 | So I confronted my molester, and this is what I get in return. (It seems as though I'm uncertain, but my cousin (light blue) knew and confirmed that this was her)Forced oral sex with a small child is just "learning that vaginas exist?" What the hell is wrong with you? | /r/MensRights | 17/04/13 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Is the "apex fallacy" a type of logical fallacy?Patriarchy theory has never to my knowledge asserted that all men are in charge of society "All men are in charge of society" is what "patriarchy" frequently means in actual feminist usage. Say that you are concerned about men's rights, sexism against men, or the like, and you'll get a bunch of mocking responses about how those concerns are invalid because we supposedly live in a patriarchy, as evidenced by the primarily male composition of Congress, Fortune 500 CEOs, etc. That's probably the si… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/13 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Feminist whining about how men reject feministic women. But isn't the biggest threat toward men who reject feminism - that they'll be celibate for the rest of their lives?“A woman with opinions had better develop a thick skin and a loud voice.” I certainly have a thick skin because I need one, but I think it sad that women feel they must protect themselves simply because they take a stand for themselves or on an issue. This seems like a lot of modern feminism in a nutshell: Demand equality, recoil in horror when it actually approaches. How does she imagine meek, fragile men fare when they want to step up and be heard? Or, for that matter, when they're just trying… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/13 11:39 PM |
| 10 | Releeeease the Radfems!!!There's no point worrying about radfems becoming more antagonistic to us than they already are. Antagonizing radfems is like moistening the ocean. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/13 12:53 AM |
| 5 | "A list of mens right's issues that threaten feminist supremacy so we'd better pretend we support them while actually doing everything we can to fight against them"I think the feminists who insist men have no problems whatsoever actually offend me less than this sort of thing. I can respect naked, unabashed contempt and hatred a lot more than this sort of insultingly dishonest sanctimony. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/13 02:59 AM |
| 3 | Big Red sings "Cry Me A River" in response to a story about a man who killed himselfWhat evidence is there that she's a radical feminist? She was quoting from an article on Jezebel, which ain't exactly Radfem Hub, and her actual stances on issues were pretty much what I'd expect from mainstream feminists talking about men's issues. Even her tone and crude vocabulary didn't seem that unusual; she's not far off from what I'd expect the comments section at Jezebel or Feministe when MRAs come up to sound like if translated to an audio format. Aside from the musical interlude. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 07:30 AM |
| 2 | A discussion of sexism (or lack thereof) in the term "bossiness" for girls vs. boysReally good post. I think the disparity is, as you say, mostly the result of the same behavior getting different, but also negative, terms when it's a boy. It's an example of gynocentrism, I think: They way a bad thing- in this case, getting a negative label- happens to females is taken as THE way that bad thing happens, making comparable phenomena affecting males invisible. (You can see this in the appallingly widespread belief that victim-blaming is not an issue for male rape victims, for inst… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!How in the living hell can anyone expect a loose network of frequently-disagreeing bloggers and youtubers with only a handful of academics, lacking almost any popular sympathy or brand recognition, and having no political influence, to have produced anywhere near the kind of theoretical corpus which has been produced by even one kind of feminism yet alone every kind of feminism? The funny thing about common feminist/social justice activist claims about the nature and effects of "privilege" is th… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 02:23 AM |
| 4 | Feminist: only feminism can effectively advocate for men's issues because "the lacking of a theoretical background disqualifies the men's rights activism from making serious claims about sexism." Lol!I've witnessed Men's Rights activists regularly appropriate the struggles of gay men and men of color. Feminists really just don't seem to get that "gay men and men of color" are men, do they? It's one of the most pervasive features of feminist rhetoric, especially when talking about MRAs or other critics- "man" means white and heterosexual. It's part of the assumed definition of the word, in their usage. Which is ironic, since the very next sentence states: I've seen them lay forth the claim th… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Paul Elam on Tom Matlacks departure from TGMP.I feel really bad for Matlack. I think he's a lot more genuine in his respect and good intentions towards men and boys than most of the people he fell in with, and most of his travails seem to be the result of him having more spine than his feminist "friends" thought was acceptable. He seemed so eager to believe that his feminist "friends" really did care that he submitted to being mistreated and exploited by them. I hope he does OK. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 12:34 AM |
| 6 | Feminist to sexist men: stop pretending 50+ women are invisible with "small daily cuts ... radiologist no longer asks if you are pregant ... cashier suggests you might want the senior discount ... peoYeah, that was the most striking part of the whole article for me. The complete strangers doing unreciprocated favors for you don't look as enthusiastic while doing it as they used to? The horror. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/13 11:07 PM |
| 6 | A mini case study in Feminist hate speech: "Men Can Stop Rape."Don't you think that attacking anti-rape messages really distracts and takes away from your cause? It's not "anti-rape." It's against some kinds of rape while perpetuating others. Why not a positive suggestion, like that they change the slogan to "You can stop rape"? If I'm mistreating you, you're not obliged to provide me with an alternative way to to do whatever abusing you was meant to accomplish before telling me to knock it off. Figuring out how to pursue your own goals without erasing mill… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/13 09:44 AM |
| 1 | It looks like r/mensrights needs a reminder given the number of "Not All Feminists Are Like That" posts making the front page right now...If it were as simple as "it's much more accepted to be masculine," tomboys wouldn't get less scorn for deviating from gender norms, they'd get none. They'd be favored over more feminine girls. They're not. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/13 12:43 AM |
| 2 | TV-show shows male rape, feminist writes article cheering the rapistFirst, I don't know how you can interpret "give in to her demands" to mean that Rosenberg thinks C.K. "consented", in the sense that feminists use that term regarding sex and rape. "Give in to her demands" is ambiguous. It implies pressure, certainly, but not neccesarilly wrongful coercion; similar language is sometimes used to describe an event in a perfectly legal negotiation. You're right that "giving in to demands" for sex is incompatible with what feminists would consider sexual valid conse… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/13 11:27 PM |
| 1 | TV-show shows male rape, feminist writes article cheering the rapistAnother factor is that women are responsible for most consumer spending decisions, so they're especially valuable to many advertisers. (Probably also why the "bumbling man, smart woman" formula is especially common in ads for things like food, cleaning products, and other household goods.) | /r/MensRights | 08/04/13 10:47 PM |
| 4 | Something to keep in mindI'd like to believe that egalitarian, antimisandrist feminists were something other than a tiny, marginal minority, but there's no evidence that they are and I'm long past taking the existence of some supposed silent majority of egalitarian feminists on faith. The fact that an implacably hostile enemy cannot be destroyed doesn't make it less of an enemy. It just means that you'll have to go on fighting it forever if you want it to stop hurting you. Sometimes they aren't any happy endings possibl… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/13 05:52 AM |
| 8 | Why are feminists so hypocritical about circumcision? Whatever happened to "my body, my choice?"Having said this: a prominent number of the very same group have argued that female genital mutilation is significantly worse than male infant circumcision; and that consequently, efforts to stamp out the former take precedence over efforts to stamp out the latter. I'd say that while most feminists are not technically pro-circumcision though some certainly) are, a great many are anti-anti-circumcision. That is. they don't endorse it and may even nominally disapprove of it, but they're more hosti… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/13 05:05 AM |
| 2 | I made an edit of a popular xkcd comic that I think better encapsulates accusations of misogyny.It comes from the fact that he doesn't know that women see (real) nerds as creepy and potentially dangerous. Part of the 'nice-guy' hate comes from asperger or socially awkward people setting off 'danger' vibes in young women. I don't it's fear so much as contempt and sexual disgust, though I agree that the negative gut reaction many women have towards such men is what inspires a lot of the hatred for 'nice guys.' | /r/MensRights | 08/04/13 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Proper response when a feminist tries to coop men's issues - "These are things that we agree on", etc.We'd have to agree on what everyone's problems actually are, first, and that's not going to happen. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Proper response when a feminist tries to coop men's issues - "These are things that we agree on", etc.I must have been imagining that bit where feminism made dismantling traditional gender roles a central part of its philosophy! Yes. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 01:58 AM |
| 4 | Totally worth it.I don't agree with him, but if his exposure to the term comes mostly from online feminists/social justice advocates I can readily understand why he would reach that conclusion. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 01:01 AM |
| 3 | CAFE event: Paul Nathanson describes being bullied as a gay teenager while angry mob chants outsideSuch a perfect expression of what the modern feminist movement has become: A man who's been harmed and oppressed because he doesn't fit in to what traditional gender roles say men have to be tries to talk about his experiences, so an angry mob of shrieking women shows up doing everything they can to drown him out so that nobody hears him. The "Patriarchy" couldn't ask for a better daughter. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Feminists planning another protest of an MRA speaker in Toronto. Anyone living in the area with free time tonight to film it?That would require a greater interest in the opinions and feeling of others than folks like this typically demonstrate. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 01:21 AM |
| 3 | Feminists planning another protest of an MRA speaker in Toronto. Anyone living in the area with free time tonight to film it?Misandry! Misandry! Blood and souls for my Lord Misandry! | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Feminists tell female sex workers "go rape yourself." Yet another highlight in the Feminist "equality" movement. (Video may be NSFW)Where? It wasn't in the post you replied to. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/13 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Feminists tell female sex workers "go rape yourself." Yet another highlight in the Feminist "equality" movement. (Video may be NSFW)Recognize that movements are not defined by their outliers. He didn't claim otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/13 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.eta: I think it's interesting that you say 'girl' writes what. Would the male equivalent be 'boy writes what'? I suspect it would be man. No, it would be "guy." Modern English has a number of common, socially acceptable informal terms for males that have no connotations of a specific age, but their female equivalents have all been declared unacceptably sexist. So "girl" has to do double-duty. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.And in the very next paragraph, he goes on to say: I don’t mean this as a complaint that men have a tough time in a patriarchal society: they manifestly don’t. Nor am I suggesting that “man flu” is an idea which wicked feminists dreamed up in order to mock men. (Apart from anything else, you hear the term used by both men and women.) Rather, I’m saying that it plays into troubling ways we gender discussions of illness, and supports an ideal of men as powerful and not dependent on others. An idea… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 03:37 AM |
| 5 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison."Man flu" is trivial in isolation, but it doesn't exist in isolation. It's an example of the widespread trivialization of harm to men, and mockery of men who fail to conceal their suffering or weaknesses, that pervades our society. That very much is a "real issue." | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 02:42 AM |
| 11 | Is it possible to be an MRA and a liberal at the same time?I suspect a big part of the reason conservatives are more common than liberals among MRAs is that feminist, liberal misandry is often quite in-your-face, whereas traditionalist, conservative misandry is more subtle. Old-fashioned gender roles are better at wrapping male disposability in lots of appealing trappings , whereas feminists are a lot more likely to just plain say that men are disposable because they suck. That being the case, someone who abhors misandry will be more likely to have a ba… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 02:23 AM |
| 2 | MBTA (subway) rolling out new ad campaign against sexual harassment & assault, and include men for the first time! [x-post from r/boston]Excellent news. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 01:27 AM |
| 3 | This sub spends too much time complaining about feminism and not enough time pushing forward men's rights and changes in the treatment of men.To be fair, it is accurate. That is how MRM is perceived. That's as may be. But if I went over to a feminist forum, upbraided them for their hostility to MRAs, and said ""It's little wonder the feminist movement is seen as a group of ugly, man-hating lesbian bitches," the fact that that really is a popular negative stereotype of feminists wouldn't make the remark seem less hostile. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/13 05:30 AM |
| 3 | This sub spends too much time complaining about feminism and not enough time pushing forward men's rights and changes in the treatment of men.I don't know how a good natured post encouraging us to be more grown-up in our approach I think "It's little wonder the MRM is seen as a group of whiny, bitchy little boys" is stretching the meaning of "good-natured" a bit. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/13 11:59 PM |
| 2 | A List of Men’s Rights Issues That Feminism Is Already Working OnNo, we don't. That is an unfortunately vocal minority doing that, and painting the rest of us to be like that would be like me painting all men (including me, I'm a man btw) to be pigs and violent assholes. No, it wouldn't be like that at all. Feminism is a political/cultural movement based on certain beliefs and activities, and being a feminist is a choice; being a man is an unchosen inborn trait. Also, none of the regulars here are likely to be either surprised or impressed that you're a man. … | /r/MensRights | 31/03/13 12:00 AM |
| 1 | RE: "Sexism in the workplace is alive and well: Adria Richards is its latest victim"So are you outraged by what they say, or by the fact that it's "fucking nerds" saying it? The way you repeatedly harp on their lack of social status and sexual appeal is suggestive. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 02:26 AM |
| 1 | I despise the term "cis-", I want to hear other view points on this.Its great how feminists fight for women to do things like be able to go out without being sexually assaulted for what they are wearing, whereas men seem to be fighting for the right to tell sexist jokes at work. Good job. You really are fighting the good fight. Yeah, it's not as if there have been any upvoted posts with lengthy comment threads concerning male rape and abuse victims on this subreddit in the last day or so, right? Of course, if you're a feminist, I suppose it's only natural that a… | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Any writings by trans* MRAs?As far as most people are aware, there are basically two sets of beliefs about gender to choose from, the conservative/traditionalist package and the feminist package. As far as most people know, feminism isn't just an alternative to traditional attitudes, it's the alternative; genuinely egalitarian movements that reject traditional sexism (as opposed to feminism, which mostly just repackages it) simply aren't on most people's radar screens. So it's hardly surprising that transgendered people ar… | /r/MensRights | 30/03/13 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Comment to woman who wants to censor false rape story: "This story isn't about 'rape' or Steubenville or you. It's about a young man who suffered a grievous wrong."People like that commenter are scarier to me than the overtly hateful foaming-at-the-mouth misandrists. Someone who says we shouldn't care about a wronged man or boy because they're evil and deserve to suffer is at least implicitly acknowledging that their malice needs to be justified somehow, even though their justifcations are stupid and contemptible. With people like "martha," on the other hand, seem to think of males like insects- they'll step on us if that happens to be the most convenient … | /r/MensRights | 27/03/13 03:53 AM |
| 2 | Professional feminists covering up rape as policyMary Koss is by far the single most-cited authority by feminists- and consequently by things like rape prevention programs and victim services- on the subject of rape. So something of a bigger deal than an anonymous poster on an Internet message board, yes. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Adria Richards fired from SendGrid.Un bon mot ne prouve rien. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/13 06:18 AM |
| 1 | You've got to be kidding me. "Patricia Leavy, PhD: A Challenge to Boys and Men: Will You Help Stop Rape Culture?"Whether or not you think it's a 'culture,' you have to acknowledge that it happens, pretty reliably due to damaged and damaging perspectives on self, sex and women. This. This is why so many people here get "pissy" about the idea of rape culture: Even in it's less vehemently misnadrist forms, it almost invariably marginalizes or just erases male rape victims. It reflects and reinforces a worldview in in which those victims either don't exist or don't count. I'd be happy to see the term rehabilit… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Men's Rights: Where's the community?No, not when you actually count female-perpetrated rapes as rapes. Even if if that were the case, a blanket statement like "men can stop rape" still places male rape victims in the "can stop rape" category. Raped men are men. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Are you a man? Like tinkering with motors? Congratulation! You're a misogynist!I really hope that account is some bizarre troll. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 12:03 AM |
| 9 | Feminist claims male rape victims get too much attention in England because "stories about men in all forms get top billing" even though English legal definition excludes men: "Unlawful sexual intercYes, rape of males is what gets all the attention. Remember when three athletes from Duke were accused of raping a male stripper, and it was in the news practically nonstop for months? And that CDC study all the feminist blogs were quoting last year that classified a man forcibly penetrating a woman's vagina with his penis as "sexual violence other than rape?" And that rape trial in Steubenville that's been national news, with those who just got convicted of gangraping that high school boy? Chri… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/13 02:27 AM |
| 4 | Men's Rights: Where's the community?You said mere days ago that there's nothing wrong with the slogan "men can stop rape" because the rape victims being told that rape happens because of their failure to prevent it were just being told that becuase they were men, and weren't being singled out specifically because they'd been raped. So when people concerned about men say something that might be miscontrued as a very nasty statement about actual female rape victims, that's a serious problem. But when feminists say something that qui… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/13 12:01 AM |
| 1 | "Why don't they ever give workshops to gay guys about being victims of rape too?" [X-post r/lgbt]What's there to argue against? Simply calling /u/Ma99ie 's comment a "conspiracy theory" isn't an argument, it's just name-calling | /r/MensRights | 17/03/13 10:56 PM |
| 1 | "Why don't they ever give workshops to gay guys about being victims of rape too?" [X-post r/lgbt]That's not a "conspiracy theory," unless any claim that some people are disingenuous about their motives counts. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/13 10:52 PM |
| 0 | Feminism versus FACTS (RE Damsel in distress)Different people deal with pain in different ways. I once, in a conversation with a good friend, concluded an anecdote about one of the times I had the shit beaten out of me as a toddler by saying (roughly) "Of course, this was back in the early 80s, before all the big studies on curing autistic spectrum disorders with blunt force trauma had been published." That sort of thing helps me. Luckily, I have friends who aren't smug, self-righteous pricks. Your blithe assumption that a man who disagree… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/13 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Feminism versus FACTS (RE Damsel in distress)They've done nothing, because that's not their goal. Tell that to feminists, not us. A great many outspoken feminists claim that freeing both men and women from sexism and the harm it causes them is feminism's goal. In fact, one of the common feminist criticisms of the men's rights movement is that it's supposedly superfluous because feminists acknowledge that "patriarchy hurts men too" and any valid men's issue is already covered by feminism. And more generally, any feminist claiming that femin… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/13 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Reuters, we have a problemFor Christ's sake, do you actually read what you respond to? I'm not suggesting we assemble a lynch mob and start stringing people up. I'm not suggesting we dispense with due process. I'm not saying anything even hinting at that. I'm talking about having a belief about a question of fact based on your own judgement, rather than treating the court system like it's an infallible authority so sacred that people shouldn't dare disagree with it aloud. I asked it as a rhetorical question before, but n… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/13 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Reuters, we have a problemYeah, just like people who think alleged terrorists should have some sort of due process instead of being locked up without trial at Gitmo until the end of time hate America, right? | /r/MensRights | 15/03/13 12:00 AM |
| 4 | Reuters, we have a problemThen no matter whether they're innocent or guilty, you will always say that they did it and treat them as if they did. This is absurd. You asked about if they were found not guilty by the court, not if they were actually innocent of the charges. You act as if a jury verdict literally decides whether the accused actually committed the crime or not, with the objective facts of the alleged crime itself indeterminate until the government opens up Schrodinger's box and looks. As a factual- as opposed… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/13 11:53 PM |
| 5 | It's now official - O2 and Symantec believe helping male victims of domestic violence and sex abuse is hateI never quite understood this logic. "Well they started it so why shouldn't we bother?" It means that we have no reason to believe that ceasing to be hostile to them will make them be less hostile to us. They've already demonstrated that they'll hate and attack us and our cause whether we provoke them or not. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/13 10:57 PM |
| 7 | Shaming tactics 101! Men who stare!!Breast augments don't mean you become public property. Having the temerity to look at someone in public does not even vaguely resemble treating them as "public property." | /r/MensRights | 13/03/13 12:25 AM |
| 2 | What I would like the Men's Rights Movement to never become... (in support of Farrell/Fiamengo talks at UofT)It happened after a fairly long exchange in the comment thread at this article at A Voice for Men. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/13 04:18 AM |
| 5 | Message to all men from a writer feeling sexually frustrated in her relationship: "Just try saying yes to us more often. Even if you're a little tired."But still, it can be hard for us ladyfolk to reconcile your unwillingness to bed us with the larger cultural perception that all men are Wile E. Coyote-level schemers trying to get laid. At least that's the view reinforced everywhere from beer commercials to Anthony Weiner's extracurricular penis pic-ing to Cosmo cover lines swearing that men think about sex every seven seconds. And to be denied in light of that? It's enough to make us think you're a dick for withholding yours. I make a similar … | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 03:51 AM |
| 1 | "I am tired of rape culture in the gaming world." by Gaming As WomenIn my mind, I'm just confused as to how any of you expect to find support going forward if you continue to alienate other groups, and allow hateful members of your movement to yell the loudest. It's worked out pretty well for feminism so far. You're right that it's unlikely to work for men's rights, though; we don't have the sort of support from traditional gender norms that feminists enjoy. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Another VAWA survey defines rape as "penetration by a perpetrator without consent." Surprise! Mostly female victims, mostly male perpetrators. See comments for full definitions.One academic (that I'm aware of) argued this. Cold comfort when that one is probably the single most referenced feminist authority on the subject. Its executive director acknowledges male sexual victimization, and said that[2] "If you’re sexually assaulted, there’s this idea that you’re no longer a man. The violence is ignored, and your sexual orientation and gender are confronted." The only time a lot of feminists give any sign of actually disagreeing with the idea that raped men aren't really … | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 03:12 AM |
| 5 | Feminism addresses men's issues; a rebuttalThey were supportive of it when its editor was Hugo Schwyzer, whose attitude towards men and boys not named Hugo Schwyzer is little short of sociopathic. He's a smug macho bully whose schtick revolves around shitting on males less powerful, privileged, and masculine than he is to raise himself higher. So, you've demonstrated that feminists will support discussion of "men's issues" if this discussion is being controlled by someone who not only blames but villifies 11-year old boys sexually abused… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 04:33 AM |
| 2 | [meta] PSA: This subreddit is losing touch and propagating itself as irrational, rather than promoting equality and fair treatment there's a growing tone of needing to lower the status of women ratherMost importantly, they consistently are phrased in ways that portray women as perpetrators, rather than men as victims or survivors. That's not to say that women aren't perpetrators, but it creates an overall tone of "Women are Bad" rather than the far more productive and accurate tone of "Men's Rights are being infringed upon." This is essentially what feminists, in their occasional token acknowledgements of victimized men, already do: expand the "victims" category to include some men as well a… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/13 05:43 AM |
| 6 | He says he said no to sex, now says no to child supportHow about from you? You bear just as much responsibility for the pregnancy as a rape victim does- that is to say, none. So why not force you to pay for one of these kids for the next 18 years? It wouldn't be any more unjust than making the rape victim pay for the privilege of being raped, and it would be vastly less cruel. And given how gung-ho you are about the idea of forcing parental obligations on people who did nothing to consent to them, you'd have no right to complain. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/13 01:55 AM |
| 13 | Girl gets knocked out by guy after trying to hit him multiple times with her friends cheeringYes, you are legally in the right to fight back with as much force as you like, but I think it is prefferable to keep in mind that the girl was raised in a society that did not teach her to expect resistance from a man and she would be acting differently had she known you would resist. Then she's a bully and a coward, as well as a thug. That hardly makes her more deserving of mercy. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/13 04:44 AM |
| 5 | Feminists on saying no to sex: " I think that men say no as a way to regain power."It's not just that she's frustrated or upset, it's her attitude towards the man and the way she frames the whole issue. She treats denying her sex on demand as wronging her. She leaps to the conclusion that the man's failure to put out on demand must have some sort of sinister motive. The idea of a man having perfectly good reasons for not submitting to her sexual demands is all but foreign to her. The idea that men actually have their own sexual preferences and boundaries offends her. The whole… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/13 03:30 AM |
| 4 | "Man Child""Man child" is on my list of terms that I use to filter out people who aren't worth engaging with. It's like "mansplain" or "jewsmedia"- it's not impossible for someone who uses it as an insult to actually have something of value to say, but the odds are sufficiently poor that it's not worth the time and energy it would take to find out. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 04:12 AM |
| 81 | Feminists on saying no to sex: " I think that men say no as a way to regain power."I would not be surprised if that woman went on to commit rape, or has already. I'm not joking. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/13 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Men in gamingUnfortunately, even if we're correct about certain game characters being Machoness Fantasies rather than Power Fantasies, it still means that male characters and female characters are designed with the needs of a presumed-male-audience in mind, so it doesn't refute the feminist argument's basic thrust. Depends on just what that thrust is. If the argument is that video games present female characters as objects valued for their use rather than as people or present unrealistic and/or unhealthy ima… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/13 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Men in gamingIf by "power" you mean "control over your own life" then Gears Of War is a ridiculously bad power fantasy. In reality, its a machoness fantasy rather than a power fantasy; the fantasy is about fulfilling the expectations of "real manhood." It really makes you ponder Warren Farrell's argument that for a long time, men have been taught to treat that-which-makes-them-powerless as power. This is the problem I have with a lot of the usual arguments about male characters being "power fantasies," actua… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/13 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Men in gamingYou kill more Female Splices in Bioshock than Male Splicers plus the game mechanic of killing little girls. I don't remember any protests. Your encounters with the Little Sisters were the much-ballyhooed "moral choices" of the game. The ability to kill little girls was conspicuous precisely because it was the only killing portrayed as wrong. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/13 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Why Are American Gender-feminists singling out attacks on just hetero-sexual men now??A lot of feminists, consciously or otherwise, don't really seem to think of gay men as genuinely being men- they're honorary women, or exist in some genderless limbo, or are somehow merely male and not "men." The similarity between this and old-fashioned homophobia is probably not a coincidence. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/13 11:23 PM |
| 3 | With all of the flame wars between MRAs and Feminists, can we have a legitimate and peaceful discussion about what exactly Victim Blaming is?I think much of the hostility on this subreddit to feminist complaints about "blaming the victim" stems from the manner in which feminists frame the issue. Feminists routinely portray victim-blaming in cases of violent crime as something that happens exclusively or near-exclusively to females, either by framing the issue as as specifically a female problem (as opposed to a crime victim problem) or outright saying that it doesn't happen to males. The existence of victim-blaming of males, which is… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/13 11:08 PM |
| 2 | /r/Masculism is mostly people new to this sort of thing, and could use some guidance before the feminists hijack itTypical rhetoric fallacy of exaggerating the opponent claim's to more easily dismiss it. You cited "car[ing] about acceptance of feminine men, being able to cry in public and sharing their feelings" as something a feminist-approved MRA would have to do, along with: shutting up about false accusations of rape and abuse, shutting up about women rapists, shutting up about feminist lobbying, never criticizing feminist beliefs It's difficult to read your original comment as not saying exactly what /u… | /r/MensRights | 26/02/13 07:39 AM |
| 6 | Just a reminder that white males commit suicide at a massively disproportionate rate than other groups (e.g. Over 10x more than black women). Take care y'all, watch out for the warning signs of your fIf only you could find a way of celebrating your good fortune without shitting on people who don't have it as good as you apparently do. You're just another strutting macho bully, repackaged to avoid offending feminist sensibilities. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/13 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Woman had sex with unconscious man, resulting in birth of a child: man held liable for child supportObviously this isn't what MRAs believe, and that's fine; my point is simply that these feminists chose not to ignore the issue or keep it invisible. Dialogue is useful even if the people you're speaking with don't agree with you. You are changing the subject. This thread of the discussion here started when you pointed out the existence of a feminist (or at least feminist-influenced) woman who had written against the same injustice MRAs in this thread are angry about, and argued that people who s… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/13 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Equality in Victimhood for Men is a Losing PropositionAngry Harry, who was one of the first real MRA bloggers online (if not the first — I was still blissfully ignorant when he got started), took issue with former US marine James Landrith’s use of recovered memories (AKA suppressed memories) to claim he had been drugged and raped by a woman. Have any of these idiots squealing about "recovered memories" actually read the goddamned James Landrith article? He writes about suppressing his conscious emotional response to what happened to him, not his me… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/13 08:38 AM |
| 1 | I found out today that my son hanged himself.Your description sounds far less emotional than one would expect from a parent who has just lost a child. That doesn't really tell you anything in itself. A lot of people deal with really awful stuff by going numb and cold. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/13 05:42 AM |
| 5 | Woman had sex with unconscious man, resulting in birth of a child: man held liable for child supportThe liberal establishment, on the other hand, wants to force a man who has been raped and unwillingly impregnated his rapist to go through 18 years of slavery. I doubt typical conservatives are better in this regard. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/13 03:04 AM |
| 5 | Woman had sex with unconscious man, resulting in birth of a child: man held liable for child supportMore to the point, it's not as if commentary on issues such as this is completely absent from feminists (see for example here and here.) The first link says that a male rape victim should be forced to pay child support if his rapist becomes pregnant. So yeah, that's feminist commentary. And if I said that raping women should be legal, I'd be commenting on an issue many feminists consider important, but I don't think it would encourage many feminists to rally to my movement's banner. I'm honestly… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/13 02:49 AM |
| 5 | This is in the counseling center at my high school. I'm glad to see this moving into more learning environments.You will never see the movement advocate for women to be paid higher than men, only that they should not be paid less. Similarly, you'll never see them say that women should feel any more safe than men in public spaces, only that they should not feel less safe. However, a great deal of feminism amounts to this in practice, even if it isn't always intentional. For instance, treating "violence against women" as an especially pressing concern worthy of greater attention in a society where most viol… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Anonymous post comparing RadFems to Radical Christians.It stops any attempt at promoting good faith and mutual understanding, You can't kill what was never alive to begin with. Mutually beneficial, rational discussion with radfems isn't going to happen, and it does us no good to act as if it were otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/13 06:14 AM |
| 7 | Women victim-blaming male rape victimIn general men are raped by men. It's a serious men's rights issue. Woman on man rape is extremely rare. This is not the case, once you actually count female-perpetrated rape as rape. Even if it were true, it has no relevance to a thread that is specificaly about the mistreatment of a man raped by a woman. You're just trying to derail the conversation to keep men like the one being ridiculed in the linked article invisible. There's already a vast ocean of articles and discussions about rape focu… | /r/MensRights | 12/02/13 01:02 AM |
| 6 | The "MRA's are pussies" canardWe're getting called pussies by a pack of aspergers-afflicted cowards Upvoted your post because you make an extremely good point about what really animates a lot of this contempt for MRAs once you look past the "progressive" paint job of feminism, but it left one hell of a sour taste in my mouth doing it when you despise me and men like me in much the same way they do. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/13 07:05 AM |
| 4 | About the twitter hashtag: summed up perfectly in one tweetWhether or not it's for attention or a cry for help, whatever, that's irrelevant. It's usually* irrelevant to how you should respond to any individual suicide attempt, because mistakenly writing off a genuine attempt as attention seeking can be disastrous and even mere attention-seeking self-harm suggests serious psychological problems that should be addressed. But that's completely irrelevant to discussing the frequency and motivation of suicide attempts in society as a whole. If you actually w… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/13 12:01 AM |
| 28 | Victim of FGM speaks out against all medically unnecessary infant circumcisionFrom what I've seen, outspoken opponents of female circumcision who are victims of the practice themselves almost always disapprove of circumcising boys as well. Women who insist that FGM is an unspeakable atrocity but MGM is harmless or trivial are almost always people for whom genital mutilation is an abstraction. Women who've actually had to live with the consequences of it in real life seem far more likely to see it in terms of "this is a terrible thing for anyone to do to a child" instead o… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/13 08:10 AM |
| 2 | Any time a feminist talks about "teaching men not to rape," toss them this link. "[T]he vast majority of rapes are committed by serial, violent predators."And Republican politicians tend to talk about how much they value limited government in the same breath that they call for censoring internet porn or harsher sentences for drug users or another few hundred billion for the military budget. Claiming to believe something is one thing; behaving as if you actually believe it is something else altogether. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 10:15 AM |
| 3 | r/self discussion of when a man can "acceptably" cry. Some comments are sad to see.Why is this getting downvoted? It's clearly a statement about the culture as it is, not a claim about what ought to be the case. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/13 01:39 AM |
| 7 | Angry Harry on the adoption of the feminist abuse industry by men's rights activists - it will be 'absolutely catastrophic' for both men and the MM.http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/the-rape-victims-they-refuse-to-see/ There's a fairly lengthy clash in the comments section, containing the argument I presume Angry Harry is referring to. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/13 06:01 AM |
| 9 | Angry Harry on the adoption of the feminist abuse industry by men's rights activists - it will be 'absolutely catastrophic' for both men and the MM.OK, I''m 99% sure I know what article Angry Harry is coyly talking about, and the author of it does NOT claim to have "recovered" his memory of being raped. He says he spent many years telling himself it was no big deal- something our society's attitudes towards male rape victims strongly encourages- until he couldn't suppress the reality any more and the dam broke, so to speak. There's nothing unusual or indicative of fakery about that- people who've been screwed up by traumatic experiences oft… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/13 04:51 AM |
| 2 | “There is some stunning female chauvinism with regards to how many women think of the forced genital wounding of males as a joke, while the forced genital wounding of females is a heinous crime,”Should we outlaw braces without express and complete consent of the child? If the child's teeth are perfectly healthy and the braces are only being put in because his parents just like the idea of cramming a bunch of metal into the kid's mouth, sure. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/13 04:03 AM |
| 6 | When did this outrage towards nice guys start? What the hell?Being angry is not a prerequisite for being condemned as a a "nice guy;" merely expressing sadness, loneliness, or disappointment seems to be enough. As far as I've seen, how the "nice guy" reacts to sexual and romantic failure is largely incidental- the failure itself makes him an object of contempt, and betraying pretty much any distress or pain at all seals his fate. Which, in light of how virtually every aspect of the "nice guys are evil phenomenon" seems to boil down to condemning unmasculi… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/13 02:08 AM |
| 4 | When did this outrage towards nice guys start? What the hell?In my nastier moods, I've toyed with the idea of encouraging people to start using "strong woman,""intelligent woman," "independent woman," and the like to mean, basically, a female version of what you mean by "nice guy," and to vilify all women who identify with such terms if they are not sexually attractive, romantically successful, and/or conventionally feminine. God knows there's at least as much justification for it- I've heard women fulminating about men's supposed lack of interest in wome… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/13 01:52 AM |
| 0 | When did this outrage towards nice guys start? What the hell?You said Nice Guys have Traits A,B, and C. When someone questions the existence of such people, your response is "You're saying people with Trait C don't exist?" It's like claiming that a conspiracy of evil Freemasons secretly runs the world, and then rebutting a skeptic by rhetorically asking him if he's claiming that there's no such thing as a Mason. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/13 01:08 AM |
| 6 | When did this outrage towards nice guys start? What the hell?the one who expects sex to just magically happen without him ever mentioning it. They act like typical heterosexual women? The bastards! | /r/MensRights | 26/01/13 12:57 AM |
| 2 | U of T Student Union trying to ban and shut down A Voice for Men.Know whats funny? Change "feminists" to "males" in that sentence, and you realize that your post would be right at home in SRS. One of these things is an ideological movement with which people freely choose to identify. The other is an innate biological category that half of the human race is born into. There is no hypocrisy here, because the equivalence you're claiming does not exist. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 08:02 AM |
| 2 | "Women’s liberation has often been portrayed as a movement intent on encroaching upon or taking power and privilege away from men, as though in some dismal zero-sum game, only one gender at a time couA false dichotomy. You could just be part of the privileged minority of men who benefits from (or at least avoids) the oppression of their less privileged brethren. Some women exploit sexism towards women to their own advantage, at other women's expense; it would be misogynistic to assume that men never sink to that level. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 07:38 AM |
| 3 | Don’t be a creep: tips for 2nd class humansAnd good point, noticing that it's completely gender neutral. "Creep" is not a gender-neutral insult. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/13 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Don’t be a creep: tips for 2nd class humansThe suggestion that men must actively learn to manage their sex drive, respect consent, and deal with rejection in a way other than rape suggests that the men producing these posters believe themselves to be exceptional among their gender. It's also possible that they actually are the sort of person they're implying men in general are, and think (or want to believe) that they're the norm. There's certainly precedent for that sort of thing. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/13 10:56 PM |
| -1 | Why are we labelled as a hate group?Because some groups who call themselves MRAs are indeed hateful and bigotted If that was a sufficient condition, the people accusing the MRM of being a hate group would be making the same accusation against feminism. They aren't. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/13 12:38 AM |
| 1 | x post from meta - Proposal to ban getting all confused when feminists satirically reverse the genders in rape prevention tips.Sarcastically reversing the genders on traditional rape prevention tips would be telling men that they should avoid wearing tight pants, getting drunk around strange women, leaving their drink unattended where someone could drug it, etc. This is something quite different. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 12:39 AM |
| 5 | British press consistently words articles to evade mentioning of sexually abused boys, or to acknowledge they were raped. e.g. "[Savile] also assaulted children and young girls 33 times in TV and radiAdam Jones suggested an interesting thought exercise in his essay Effacing the Male: Imagine talking about the racial composition of a group of victims the way people routinely talk about their sex composition. "At least 20 dead, including several white people..." | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Sci fi author John Scalzi on white male privilege and creeps.Great post. Scalzi has thoroughly convinced me that he's just another smug, privileged bully who's latched on to feminism because it's a "progressive" way to spit on lower-status men. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/13 04:29 AM |
| 1 | It's stuff like this that makes me sickYou had no idea that the 2010 CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey existed? Seriously? You've never heard of the most widely ballyhooed study about the prevalence of sexual violence published in years? Curious. Since the unladylike language in the explanatory post apparently scared you off before your reached the link to the study itself in the first sentence of the second paragraph, here's a direct link to the pdf itself. There's some interesting terminological trickery in h… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/13 02:35 AM |
| 1 | It's stuff like this that makes me sickFirst: Is it really so intolerable to you that, amidst the vast sea of discussions about rape that are about male perpetrators, there's actually one or two that aren't? Can there not be one discussion, somewhere, about males qua victims that doesn't get refocused into a discussion of males qua victimizers? Is continually reminding everybody that men are bad so essential that even the rare discussions specifically about female victimizations of males need to be derailed into yet another discussio… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/13 04:16 AM |
| 1 | It's stuff like this that makes me sickWhile I understand and sympathize, An embarrassingly transparent lie. When you're commenting on the subject for the sole purpose of downplaying its importance and telling us we should care about something else instead, there's no point in these pathetic disclaimers; they fool no one. (Leaving aside the ignorance your comparison of the supposed difference consequences of rape on men and women betrays.) | /r/MensRights | 12/01/13 03:49 AM |
| 17 | ToySoldiers tells figleaf, a male feminist, how worthless and false his, and other feminist's, professed concern about male rape victims is.If you call taking time off from work and using the resources provided using my "victim cred" He didn't. It's not about victimization of actual individuals at all; "victim cred" is about which groups are perceived as victims, and the use and manipulation of this perception as an ideological/political weapon. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/13 01:30 AM |
| 2 | It takes one to know one | Toy Soldiers on feminists and "The Nice Guys of OK Cupid"A stylistic word of advice: Lose the whole “I get that X sucks, I really do” bit. It's like walking into a room with a T-shirt that says “Condescending feminist trying to feign empathy for lower-status men” in big red letters. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Toys are for everyone (x-post /r/GetMotovated)But the "oppression" of a boy being ridiculed for playing with a doll is surely on a different level then men being drafted into the military, men being jailed because they can't pay child support, men being prevented from seeing their children, and men being inprisoned on false rape charges. Your list of examples of more important issues also has some evils that are more dire than others- as awful as the way many fathers are treated by the legal system after a divorce, for instance, I don't thi… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/13 07:13 AM |
| 15 | 'Don't They Like Men?': A female professor falsifies a two-decade-old feminist hypothesis.No white man will ever know the frustration and hurt that wells up in those relegated to the role of outsider or spectator. I guess disabled/gay/autistic/ostracized/poor/socially inept/foreign white men don't real. As usual. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/13 12:18 AM |
| 3 | "Why?" is this even a serious question?The labor you mention is generally a repetitive task and will be taken over by machines very soon and those people will become obsolete and a burden to their governments. Industrialization doesn't work that way. If it did, every country in the Western world would have a permanent 80%+ unemployment rate because of advances in agriculture over the past few centuries. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/13 04:04 AM |
| 1 | "Why?" is this even a serious question?I actually think the explanation you propose is the correct one, but none of the comments you linked to posit a "conspiracy." An explanation based on large numbers of people independently acting in the same way because they happen to have similar interests and incentives is the exact opposite of a conspiracy. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/13 03:52 AM |
| 10 | Why "Patriarchy" Gets Our GoatsActually, even civilian deaths tend to be disproportionately male, because (among other reasons) civilian men and adolescent boys are often targeted while while females are spared. Some useful links: http://www.gendercide.org/case_kashmir_punjab.html http://www.gendercide.org/case_kosovo.html http://www.gendercide.org/case_srebrenica.html http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2007/02/09/this-is-what-a-civilian-looks-like/ http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2007/10/25/are-the-vast-majority-of-war-… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 02:27 AM |
| 5 | Why "Patriarchy" Gets Our GoatsIt's a dichotomy in the sense that, while the feminist theory of patriarchy allows for the idea of individual people being members of both oppressed and privileged categories, it still forces every category into the dichotomy. One side of the dichotomy is oppressed, period; the other is privileged over them, period. That works reasonably well for some areas, but falls apart completely when the categories are male and female. There aren't many situations where I'd expect better treatment if I wer… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 02:04 AM |
| 4 | A rebuttal to "Hark! A Vagrant"'s Strawfeminism argument. (Bonus: Guess the protest I'm alluding to!)It's not dishonesty; the Hark author is talking about a different thing. What you're doing is akin to defending scaremongering about terrorism by saying terrorists exist. We know they exist; scaremongering can still be criticized. Except no one is accused of "scaremongering" for merely mentioning that terrorists actually exist and occasionally have an effect on the world, while that is precisely what brings out accusations of attacking "straw feminists." Geek Feminism Wiki (highest Google result… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 05:23 AM |
| 11 | A rebuttal to "Hark! A Vagrant"'s Strawfeminism argument. (Bonus: Guess the protest I'm alluding to!)The point of the Hark A Vagrant comic is that strawfeminists are used as bogey men to scare people; thus the 'monster in the kids' closet' theme. Therein lies the dishonesty: Monsters in kids' closets aren't real. They're the product of a frightened child's imagination. Misandrist feminists actually exist, no matter how much you try to sweep that fact under the rug when it's inconvenient. Calling them "strawfeminists" is just gaslighting. They're as flesh-and-blood as you are. It is not saying t… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Female PrivilegeIf feminists ever get around to actually supporting "the disestablishment of the patriarchy" instead of just dressing it up in drag, I'll get right on that. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Female Privilegeor the one where women are blamed for "inviting" rape because of what they are wearing, This is the same universe where men and boys are blamed for being raped because they were born with a penis. Such privilege. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 03:15 AM |
| 0 | Female PrivilegeIn all seriousness, almost everything feminists object to can easily be spun as misandry. Slut-shaming? That's because people think men are dirty and polluting. Women who aren't feminine in their appearance or behavior are treated badly? That's because everyone hates men and masculinity, obviously. And so on. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Female PrivilegeIt's used to paint men as the instigators of their own downfall This is the most important bit to remember. A lot of supposed feminist sympathy for men is just victim-blaming, using the concept of "patriarchy" to conflate victimized males with their victimizers. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/12 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Never told anyone this, need to get it off my chest.But no, that can't be it, because feminism is bullshit bro. Well, so far it's chief contribution to this thread has been some little shit who sees someone speaking out about a horrendously traumatic experience for the first time in his life and responds to him with sneering mockery. And it's sneering mockery of a strawman of a position that he'd done nothing to indicate he even held, at that. You're just attacking a rape victim so you can taunt people who disagree with your politics. If you're r… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Why Feminism will always be the enemyWhen we have a system in place where the government ends up footing the bill of caring for children abandoned by unfit mothers, giving out free birth control could inevitably be a cost-cutting measure for the government. That's as may, but that's unrelated to the argument that most feminists opining on this issue actually make- they claim that failing to subsidize birth control is an attack on women's freedom and autonomy, not that it's merely financially unwise. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/12 01:11 AM |
| 2 | The male protagonist in the game Far Cry 3 is drugged and raped in the game and no-one seems to have noticed.See, to me it is a video game. Like a movie that contains rape, it is people's choice to watch/play/like it. No one has suggested otherwise. No one has said anything even slightly hinting otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/12 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Women Rape Boys, Too - NOVEMBER 20, 2011 BY JACOB TAYLOR goodmenproject.comTroll or not, there are far better sources to post than the GMP. True enough, but Jacob Taylor/Toysoldier is one of the most interesting and prolific writers on the subject of female-perpetrated rape we have. His work is worth calling attention to even if the venue isn't the best. | /r/MensRights | 24/12/12 02:52 AM |
| 2 | 1 out of everyone 1.2 men raped or sexually assaulted by 18Wait, I thought that most feminists believed that there all sorts of cultural and legal barriers that discouraged rape victims from reporting the crime to law enforcement and made convictions harder to get, and that consequently using numbers from the legal system like the number of reported rapes- much less the number of convictions!- gives a gravely inaccurate picture of the actual prevalence of sexual violence. And that such factors did not have perfectly uniform effects on every group, bur r… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/12 02:34 AM |
| 6 | 1 out of everyone 1.2 men raped or sexually assaulted by 18That part gets "left out" because leaving aside it's irrelevance to the OPs point, it's a lie. If you've been reading this place enough to feel qualified to say what we do or do not talk about "a lot," I'm surprised you haven't run into the data in the link at one time or another. I get that your using these statistics to counter the "men are rapists" argument, but if you ignore the fact that while rape victims can be both male or female the vast majority of rapists are men there isn't any point… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/12 02:09 AM |
| 1 | The reason why feminism will never serve as the basis for an effective men's movementI believe that these societal notions are equally harmful to both sexes, because they serve to limit us as a whole. This puts you pretty far from the feminist mainstream, and sharply at odds with some of the ideas at the core of most feminist theory and discourse. (The idea of "male privilege," for instance.) Many feminists do make some sort of acknowledgement that gender roles can be bad for men, but the only self-identified feminists I've seen arguing that they're equally harmful, or nearly so… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/12 02:19 AM |
| 3 | Hugo Schwyzer says men like guns because the power to kill is the power to control. Hugo Schwyzer tried to kill a woman with oven gas in 1998.Exactly. It's no surprise that he would find feminist misandry plausible, considering his own experiences with men- Hugo Schwyzer has spent every waking moment of his life in the company of Hugo Schwyzer. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/12 01:09 AM |
| 4 | Hugo Schwyzer says men like guns because the power to kill is the power to control. Hugo Schwyzer tried to kill a woman with oven gas in 1998.Hugo Schwyzer's whole philosophy seems built around believing, or desperately wishing to believe, that deep down all men are as rotten as he is. Feminist misandry gives him a sort of absolution. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/12 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Southern Poverty Law Center beclowns themselves again, labeling anarcho-capitalists and libertarian economists as big scary haters.(stop making generalizations.) What, like "anyone who notices that the SPLC has a history of smearing groups who disagree with American establishment liberalism and actually thinks that's a bad thing must be some sort of retarded Fox News stereotype?" You're right, people who make idiotic generalizations like that should knock it off. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/12 07:49 AM |
| 0 | Fellow MRA's, people like this are giving us a bad name and hurting our causeAn "understanding of the English language" would tell you that the suffixes "ist" and "ism" attached to a person's name do not necessarily- or even usually- does not mean absolute adherence to a set of propositions that were forever frozen in time at the founder's death. Considering what is meant by common examples- Platonism, Thomism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Georgism, Malthusianism, Lutheranism, Calvinism, etc.- makes this obvious. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/12 01:25 AM |
| 74 | Fellow MRA's, people like this are giving us a bad name and hurting our causeWho, Green Text or Red Text? By the time I finished reading that exchange I thoroughly detested both of them. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/12 09:39 AM |
| 4 | Was 2012 a Good Year For Women in Gaming? - IGNWhich has bugger-all to do with how realistic or unrealistic they are, which is what the comment you're purportedly responding to was talking about. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/12 02:19 AM |
| 2 | "So-called “men’s rights activist” Paul Elam has started a campaign of harassment against a University of Toronto student for the “crime” of attending a pro-feminist demonstration"I suspect the "so-called" was meant to apply to the very idea of a men’s rights activist, implying that the whole idea of men's rights actually masks a sinister hidden agenda. I doubt he'd respect you or me any more than the particular people he's attacking here. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/12 11:37 PM |
| 2 | It's taboo to admit, but I wish my unborn baby wasn't a beastly boy...Jesus Christ, what is wrong with this woman? Has it never occurred to her that her son will one day be able to read and might see this, or does she just not care? Though I suppose it won't tell him anything he won't have known from the cradle. If she's so comfortable saying stuff like this about her son that she'll publish it in a major newspaper, she's sure as hell not going to guard her tongue in day-to-day conversation when he's around. That poor kid. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/12 02:52 AM |
| 7 | Male on male rapeFemale-on-male rape is in the almost unique position of being a serious violent crime that is not merely ignored or condoned, but widely treated as inherently harmless or literally impossible. Men raped by other men get little in the way of support and are often treated horrendously, but it is at least understood that such rapes can and do happen, and are genuinely unwanted and unpleasant for the victim. Even people who don't care about it or outright endorse it don't deny that it's horrible- qu… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/12 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Women raping men: One man gives his account.Ughh. I really should have known better than to read the comments section of a Huffington Post article about a topic like this. (Or any other topic, really.) | /r/MensRights | 06/12/12 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Women raping men: One man gives his account.The Huffington Post comments section is a cesspool even at the best of times. Combine it with a topic as surrounded by ignorance and stupidity and bigotry as this one, and you've got trouble. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/12 02:25 AM |
| 7 | GirlWritesWhat: Look out! It's a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!I think it predates "Friends," but regardless of whether it does or not your essential point is completely correct- the vilification of men who lament being in the "friend zone" is based on a degrading stereotype of men as shallow, unfeeling, and sex-obsessed. The "friend zone" as it manifests itself outside of TV-land is not about sex, but about relationships. A man is "friend zoned" when his romantic feelings are not reciprocated - he is attracted to her, but not she to him. He loves, but his … | /r/MensRights | 05/12/12 12:21 AM |
| 4 | GirlWritesWhat: Look out! It's a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!Yeah, it's weird to me how so many feminists now seem outraged by the idea of a guy hanging out with and getting to know a specific woman with the hope of it turning into a romantic relationship. Apparently, the standard model of asking out strangers about whom you know little or nothing beyond "has vagina" is what shows your respect for women as comlpete human beings. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/12 11:39 PM |
| 3 | GirlWritesWhat: Look out! It's a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!If she want to give him sex then he's truly nice, if she doesn't want to give him sex then he's not really nice. A man's honesty is defined by whether a woman likes him. This is it, in a nutshell. The essential trait of the "Nice Guy" that so many feminists hate so much is that he's romantically and sexually unsuccessful because- whether due to shyness or misleading advice or just the way his personality is- he's bad at performing the traditional male role, which being the one who approaches/ini… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/12 11:29 PM |
| 2 | When Did "Bro" Become Bad?Very interesting topic. Does "Bro Culture" have an unfair reputation? My impression is that it does. My (admittedly limited) experiences with guys like that haven't given me any reason to believe that they're more likely to be jerks than other groups. My suspicion is that, since they tend to be loud, boisterous, etc., the ones who also happen to be jerks are especially noticeable to outsiders. I also think a lot of the sniggering about them is a combination of misandry and homophobia- guys are j… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/12 04:01 AM |
| 5 | Well this is new. A feminist forum bringing awareness of men's rights issues, but still calling it feminism.NSWATM was what really killed any hopes I had that men's issues could be addressed by feminism. The sad thing is that I think most of the people there were sincere, and really did try- and still failed in the end. To be fair, the single worst influence there was actually a male feminist, Noah Brand. Men seem to be better at misandry than women. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/12 09:18 AM |
| 6 | Well this is new. A feminist forum bringing awareness of men's rights issues, but still calling it feminism.And in any case, the essentialist rhetoric employed by some MRA's (cough cough) is just as denigrating, harmful, and counter-productive as the essentialist rhetoric employed by some feminists in regard to men. Broadly generalizing about the morality people who choose to identify themselves as supporters of a political and cultural movement is not remotely comparable to doing so about everyone who was born a particular sex. "Male" is not an ideology. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/12 09:04 AM |
| 12 | Well this is new. A feminist forum bringing awareness of men's rights issues, but still calling it feminism.That rubbed me the wrong way as well. It seems like a very backhanded sort of "concern" for men's issues- men need help from feminism because they're shitty human beings without it, apparently. | /r/MensRights | 03/12/12 08:57 AM |
| 3 | Warren Farrell protest at the University of Toronto - Full version - YouTubeIf you believe this than a good percentage of men who were raped are guilty of fraud for getting a boner. This already gets explained every time somebody comes by here and claims that raping a man is physically impossible, so it shouldn't be necessary but apparently is: Erections are completely outside of voluntary control. It's not "body language" unless that category is so broad it encompasses your pupils dilating and food being pushed through your intestines, too. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/12 12:22 AM |
| 2 | Far Cry 3 and "rape"3 is definitely the weakest of the series. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/12 12:02 AM |
| 4 | Feminist: Why the War on Men Doesn’t Matter: "If men are frustrated by their inability to placate my anger, know that I am frustrated by your inability to placate my insecurity."Conservative anti-feminism typically (not always) bears many of the same objectionable traits as typical feminism. See seems largely oblivious to men who aren't high-status in much the same way most "male privilege" rhetoric is. ("Men can have sex at hello?" Not most of the men I know.) She reframes men's issues so that the real victims are somehow women. So, does anyone know where this comes from, and is there anything behind it? Cynical Answer: A lot of these articles come from women in their … | /r/MensRights | 01/12/12 11:55 PM |
| 7 | Far Cry 3 and "rape"Yeah, I'm sort of surprised that gets mentioned so rarely. While a big part of the squick factor is obviously from the assailant being a vengeful ghost, I give that game credit for being one of the only things I've seen in popular media- games, movies, whatever- that unequivocally portrays female-on-male rape as a horrific, evil act. (And they actually use the word "raped" when the incident is mentioned in FEAR3, rather than some euphemism like "attacked.") | /r/MensRights | 01/12/12 10:59 PM |
| 5 | The Mythical 'War On Men'Because they actually want to be involved dads. That sort of crap infuriates me with the way it belittles the contributions of fathers who work a lot. When my mother was pregnant with me, my dad gave up a job he loved for one he hated so that we could live close to my mom's family. He was away a lot because of his job, but "want" didn't have much to do with it. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/12 12:48 AM |
| 7 | The Mythical 'War On Men'I find it strange that when women complain about issues in wage difference there seems to be an almost instant outcry about how men are more willing to put in the hours and do the work to get ahead, yet when there are clear differences in the number of females attending (and excelling) in college all of a sudden it becomes an issue of favouritism. Why do you suppose that is? Adults have considerably more control over how much work they do than children have over the environment in which they are… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/12 12:28 AM |
| 2 | TIL Male rape victims can be held accountable for child support. (X-post from r/TIL)then have to make the difficult decision to keep the baby She doesn't have to do any such thing. She can abort the pregnancy. She can give up custody of the child. Either will terminate any legal requirement to interact with her rapist. Men and boys don't have those choices. live with knowing your child is in the hands of a rapist. You realize a male raped by a woman would have to do exactly the same thing, right? He'd actually have to do a lot more of it than a woman, except in the highly unlik… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/12 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Saw this poster in the hallway of my friends school, looks like kids help phone is getting it right!the females look in far worse shape with that "deer in the headlights" I disagree. The guy in the middle seems downright despairing, and the guy on the right has an "oh god please don't let them see me cry" look about him. I found the images quite compelling; I think a lot of people will. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/12 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Moral equivalence and the importance of policing our ownThe problem is that unilaterally refusing to play the "who has it worse" game won't end the game or make it less important. It just guarantees that you lose. Any successful men's rights movement will have to fight back against a very widespread assumption that past and present gender norms overwhelmingly favor men over women, and that men have few if any gender-related problems. Opponents of men's rights consistently exploit and reinforce this belief to attack the idea of taking men's problems s… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 06:52 AM |
| 3 | Male student gang raped by Muslim youth for cross-dressing because of initiation ritual. University's reaction: 'students shouldn't cross-dress anymore because it might provoke certain groups'. [X post from r/atheism]Then she would just be considered a "slut" for dressing that way, and the rape wouldn't have even made the news. Oh, please. If a woman was gang-raped while wearing trousers and her university responded with a rule requiring all female students to wear skirts or dresses, the media would explode. Where are all of the "90% of rape allegations are fake" people now? Still in your head, where they've always been. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Male student gang raped by Muslim youth for cross-dressing because of initiation ritual. University's reaction: 'students shouldn't cross-dress anymore because it might provoke certain groups'. [X post from r/atheism]I've seen plenty of news articles about crimes where the accused's religion is brought up, when it's thought to have some potential relevance to the crime. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/12 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Mom facing divorce wanted 100% custody and 100% of husband's salary. Settled for killing both kids instead.I knew before I clicked the link that it would be a man. Whenever a woman does something horrible and the judge at her trial goes on about what a poor victim she is, the judge is always a fucking man. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 10:16 AM |
| 1 | According to tumblr, female rapists are victims too.Wow. It's like Meghan Murphy without the proofreading. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 02:09 AM |
| 2 | I can't take this crap anymore.One possibility, though probably not suitable for a one-off comment: Offer to give them what they want, good and hard. Being a man disqualifies you from having an opinion on women's issues? So be it. Should men refrain from making lewd or threatening comments to women in the street? You have no opinion on the matter. If a woman in a generally male-dominated space is being mistreated due to sexism, is that wrong? You don't know. Would you ever tell someone treating women that way that they should… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 01:25 AM |
| 3 | User Knight_of_Malta makes me cry because he's right about my rights.It was misogynistic, yes; it was not "nothing but" misogynistic. The commentor made claims about both men and women, and his conclusion depended on both. The position of men in society was part of the subject matter being discussed in the original comment; it just wasn't the part that the average reader would be likely to question. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 12:37 AM |
| 5 | User Knight_of_Malta makes me cry because he's right about my rights."We're [referring to men] the ones making the money, and have the possessions" This is another variation on what men's rights must be dedicated to fighting- the blithe assumption that men in general have it great and hold all the cards while women have none. In this case it was being mixed together with some misogyny and used as the basis for questionable dating advice rather than the usual "male privileged" spiel, but the assumption is still false and harmful, and when a post is built on that a… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 12:25 AM |
| 2 | User Knight_of_Malta makes me cry because he's right about my rights.The post Knights_of_Malta replied to claimed that if men stopped pursuing women, women would come to them because men have all the goodies and women need to get them through men. Once that idea is under discussion, it's perfectly relevant to argue that in fact men do NOT have all the goodies, and a lot of men have very few indeed. "Men have it great" was a fundamental premise of the post being replied to. The fact that it wasn't the part of that post you take issue with does not make it irreleva… | /r/MensRights | 28/11/12 12:08 AM |
| 2 | So I was bored and tried to make a simple picture showing why the MRM isn't a threat to women, women's issues, or feminism. I hope I didn't oversimplify it.Speaking of black and white, most violent crime has a victim and perpetrator of the same race. So everyone can stop being bothered by the horrific murder rate for black men here in the States now, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/12 05:05 AM |
| 50 | "If you’re a man who thinks that there’s a “War on Men,” you probably deserve to get beaten by the women." - from Vice's articleWait, we're rich now? When did this happen? Yesterday I was a pathetic loser lashing out at women because I was bitter about still living in my mom's basement. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/12 02:55 AM |
| 1 | "How can a girl rape a boy"Prison culture is not general culture. Jokes about prison are. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 09:44 AM |
| 1 | "How can a girl rape a boy""Grammar is often a generic way of referring to any aspect of English that people object to." That sounds much closer to a condemnation than an endorsement. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 09:32 AM |
| 1 | "How can a girl rape a boy"In addition, there's a "sandwich" joke, which basically brings our end of the discussion down to the level of the fiance' who said "man up" in the first place. That's the point. He's using "Woman up and make me a sandwich" as an example of an obviously stupid, sexist thing to say that would be appropriate to say to a woman if the sort of dismissive sexism displayed by the fiance was actually reasonable. It's only a "sandwich joke" if mentioning the existence of a joke to use it as an example of … | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 09:25 AM |
| 2 | It's shit like this...no doubt now you'll see me as part of "them" just because, apparently, I don't hate women enough. No, I'll see you as part of "them" because if you actually believe that saying "Or do we only modify the law when the poor womyn have to be held accountable?" out of anger at inequalities in the legal system is "misogynistic," I doubt there's any sort of serious disapproval of sexism against men that you would find acceptable. And because people who come here and whine things in the vein of 'no doub… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 01:37 AM |
| 3 | "How can a girl rape a boy"Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you have suggest I'm ignorant about the meaning of the words I'm using. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean you have suggest I'm ignorant about the meaning of the words I'm using. I do mean it's pretentious. The image isn't focused on conveying a message so much as the style in which its conveyed. He's suggesting you're ignorant of the words you're using because you demonstrably are. It's a normal-looking guy in front of some trees,… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Manly-men.So, in response to an article impugning the manhood of non-athletic men, one of the 20 comments is basically, "No, YOU suck!" Which is unhelpful and unfair, but a compelling example of this supposed epidemic of hatred for manliness in /r/MensRights it isn't. | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 02:56 AM |
| 2 | (x-post from r/Feminism): How to Subjugate a BodyCodify it as taboo Full frontal male nudity is much more shocking and taboo than female. Define it only in relation to another, never as a primary subject. Circumcision, as JohnAdamZiolkowski said. I'd add rape, domestic/relationship violence, and harms relating to body image as well: To the extent male victims are acknowledged at all, it is almost always as a sort of appendix to female victims, and the real or imagined smaller extent of the problem for men compared to women usually has to be me… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/12 02:57 AM |
| 2 | Is contemporary modernity the first age in which a young white male is automatically of less intrinsic value than any other demographic?The problem with the comparison is that in paternity fraud we can readily quantify financial damages, identify where the ill-gotten money went, and demand compensation from the actual perpetrator. None of that holds true for American chattel slavery this long after the fact. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/12 01:58 AM |
| 13 | Thank you, MensRights. You've made me a better girlfriend.Thank you for posting this. It's gratifying to know that the ideas here are actually making a difference in people's lives. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/12 06:52 AM |
| 10 | A generation of men raised by feminists...So it's feminism's doing that we call men who exhibit traditional "feminine" qualities "sissies," "fags," etc? No, instead they're telling men and boys to shut up because their supposed "male privilege" means that their problems must be trivial and/or their own fault, and heaping ridicule and contempt on males who violate their conventional gender by acting as if their own suffering and vulnerability not only exist but actually matter. Their slightly greater fastidiousness about vocabulary is a … | /r/MensRights | 21/11/12 12:57 AM |
| 16 | Data request regarding "Men commit suicide more" and "Women attempt to commit suicide more" [sensitive topic]When we look into how this could be possible, we see that females are more likely to take the path of overdosing on drugs, drowning, and cutting. Males on the other hand are more likely to attempt suicide using the lethal force of a weapon, hanging, or other more violent methods. This creates an issue with what gets documented as an "attempt." Say a person tries to commit suicide by cutting herself or taking pills, but survives because, consciously or unconsciously, she didn't really want to die… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/12 03:11 AM |
| 1 | Jenny McCarthy grabs Justin Bieber's ass and kisses him on the neck without consent. Can you imagine the reaction if a 40-year-old man had done this to an 18-year-old girl?Christina Hoff Sommers It's sort of misleading to use someone as an example of feminism caring about males when she is rejected and reviled by mainstream feminism precisely because of her concern for males. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/12 02:05 AM |
| 15 | Why men don't express sadness or go to the doctor?Like, they think we hold back for kicks or something. They grew up in a world where they are used to things being resolved by them crying or talking to others about their problems. This, exactly. Most women who say men should be more emotionally open (or criticize or mock men for failing to be) seem to be operating under the assumption that certain female privileges are actually universal. It's like a rich kid who doesn't understand why poor people in a crime-ridden slum don't just move somewher… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/12 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Feminist's Take on Men's Awareness EventDon't live in the area, sorry. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 10:14 PM |
| 6 | Saw this post floating around tumblr, made me cringeWhat a fucking scumbag. I'm coming to the conclusion that people like this are just unwilling or unable to feel any compassion for men, and so the only way they can actually express disapproval of evils inflicted on men because of gender norms- since outright denial of them is gettong harder to maintain- is to come up with a way to believe that the real victims are somehow still women. That keeps men and boys safely dehumanized. The fun thing about this brand of feminism, however, is how easy it… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 03:40 AM |
| 6 | Feminist's Take on Men's Awareness EventIn certain circles, "anarchist" is basically shorthand for "Authoritarian state socialist. Also, fuck you, dad." Any resemblance to actual anti-statism is coincidental. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 12:14 AM |
| 2 | This is feminist "equality" on display.Every time you generalise people you have one less argument to use the next time someone generalises all men, because you're just as bad as they are. I agree that there are some good feminists, but this is a poor argument. Condemning everyone who chooses to identify with a particular ideology is not remotely equivalent to condemning everyone born with male genitalia. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/12 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Study: We're Less Likely to Recognize Symptoms of Depression in MenIt's a false point. Irrational ends can be pursued by more rational or less rational means. If I wanted to kill somebody else, shooting him or stabbing him is a more sensible way of doing so than smacking him with a fluffy pillow or trying to wither him to dust with the Evil Eye. Whether I'm trying to kill him because he's rushing at me with a knife or because I think he's actually an evil space alien in disguise changes nothing. As a non-Muslim I don't think there's any point in me making the H… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 08:51 AM |
| 4 | Study: We're Less Likely to Recognize Symptoms of Depression in MenThat's what's so morally bankrupt about your position: You treat a woman being so unhappy that she engages in attention-seeking self-harm and a man being so unhappy that he chooses to die as equivalent evils. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Study: We're Less Likely to Recognize Symptoms of Depression in MenA few factors: There are obviously people who don't mean it in earnest but still attempted suicide as a result of depression or other mental illness. Yes, obviously. Or as a means of receiving attention or sympathy, or in some cases as a way of manipulating or emotionally abusing others. Yet you didn't consider the fact that some suicide attempts aren't motivated by an actual desire for death at all relevant when you claimed that there's no incongruity between the claim that women are more depre… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Study: We're Less Likely to Recognize Symptoms of Depression in MenIt's almost like people who choose pills instead of a gun aren't thinking rationally in some way. There are pronounced gender differences in who tends to choose which method, as I'm sure you know. So I guess your answer to my question is yes: You really do think women are that stupid and inept, since apparently suicidal men are vastly more likely to think rationally than suicidal women. | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 04:27 AM |
| 0 | Study: We're Less Likely to Recognize Symptoms of Depression in MenIt's not if you take into account that women attempt suicide more often than men. Do you really think women are so stupid and inept that they try in earnest to kill themselves more often than men, and yet only manage to actually do it a fourth as often? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 01:58 AM |
| 2 | TIL I am a walking dildo.a distortion of what Men's rights advocacy should be about. Which, assuming you think it should be about anything at all, is what? | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 01:20 AM |
| 1 | [Funny] Women-only hysteria & double standards - from a great Men's Rights TumblrThat Bell Hooks quote is about a specific white guy she had a beef with; his race and sex are germane because the incident put her in mind of other problems she's faced as a black woman. Whether or not her feelings were justified (and it's not as if she was seriously contemplating murder), she's not talking about fuming with murderous rage at any white man who enters her field of vision. Actually, hooks has taken the negative effects of gender roles on men far more seriously than most feminists.… | /r/MensRights | 17/11/12 12:33 AM |
| 3 | What people just don't get about movember.Movember creates awareness, not only around prostate cancer, but around men’s health in general. I think that's exactly what unnerves people. There's an unquestioned, almost universal presumption among both traditionalists and feminists that male concern and protection is supposed to be for the benefit of females (perhaps with with some scraps left over for very young boys.) Men caring specifically about other men in the way Movember encourages challenges this. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/12 11:55 PM |
| 12 | From woman, to man, to red pillI think it's quite plausible that they're all telling the truth. There are so many variables in play- where and when the woman lives, her demeanor, sheer chance- that individual experiences probably vary enormously. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/12 01:07 AM |
| 1 | David Cameron fears paedohysteria could turn into witch hunt against gay menWhy is it whenever a man assaults a boy it's the generic "pedophile" not "gay pedophile"? For the same reason a guy who snuck into a farm and tried to molest a bull wouldn't be accused of "gay bestiality," probably. You will never, EVER, see the word homosexual or gay next to the word "pedophile", even when it's entirely appropriate. Why is this? I can't recall ever seeing anyone being called a "straight pedophile," either. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/12 06:36 AM |
| 1 | "Rules" to not be profiled as a rapist.Women can be people who need and deserve the sort of ridiculous coddling from men the author of that article feels entitled to, or they can be people who are mentally competent to be entrusted with grown-up responsibilities like voting and signing contracts and acquiring birth control without a signed permission slip from their husband or their daddy. Not both. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/12 02:34 AM |
| 5 | Why “men’s rights” groups are wrong (and Warren Farrell is a misogynist bigot)People who brandish "By other men!" as if it were relevant are announcing that they don't think of men as human beings. We're just interchangeable appendages of a single entity to them, not actual people. Most feminist rhetoric about men is built around objectification, in the useful, non-idiotic sense of the word- the reduction of people to things. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/12 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Sexism in GamesThat's actually a really interesting idea. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/12 02:41 AM |
| 3 | DAE object to the mainstream gaming media's characterization of the core gaming community being hostile to women?Abusive behavior in online games is like a lot of things that get labeled “misogyny”- it's been common for a long time, but it's only when it starts affecting large numbers of women that it becomes a problem people get upset about. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/12 12:08 AM |
| 2 | DAE object to the mainstream gaming media's characterization of the core gaming community being hostile to women?Most of what gamers say hurts women and gay people specifically. IMO, the most common slurs and taunts are "i'm going to rape you/you got raped/rape the shit out of them/ RAAAAPE" or the word "faggot". Straight guys tend to be negatively affected by being raped too, believe it or not. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/12 12:04 AM |
| 3 | The Fedora: Headgear of Misogyny?I find this heartening. Between this and that article by Amberly McAteer whining about how she dislikes Movember because facial hair is revolting and prostate cancer really isn't a big deal anyway, I've learned that I've apparently been pissing off a bunch of sexist cunts for over a decade, simply by appearing where others can see me, and never even knew it. My life has a sense of purpose now. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 11:15 PM |
| 6 | "otherwise attractive men turn into strange, creepier versions of their former clean-shaven selves"I like how she complains that Movember threatens to "trivialize the real, scary issues the Movember movement is trying to elevate" mere paragraphs after saying that prostate cancer isn't all that dangerous, and that raising money to research treatments for it is a bad idea because "perhaps our dollars would be better spent elsewhere." Torn between callous dismissiveness and concern trolling, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 10:40 PM |
| 2 | I wish I knew about this subreddit when I was still in high school and being constantly harassed. (Story inside)I'm sorry you had to go through that. Thanks for sharing your story. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/12 11:15 PM |
| 1 | RadFem vs. Transgenders & Male Homosexuals?I didn't express myself as well as I might have; we may not actually disagree much. I agree that radical feminists are rigid gender essentialists. However, I think this is still largely attributable to their belief in the absolute power of “patriarchal” social and cultural conditioning: If you're male and live in a “patriarchal” society, you are automatically and inevitably turned into the misogynistic, oppressive, predatory, privileged monster that they consider a man to be. Of course, since th… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/12 10:35 PM |
| 3 | RadFem vs. Transgenders & Male Homosexuals?Radical feminists tend to believe very strongly that pretty much all aspects of sexual/gender identity are the result of social conditioning, with basically no innate biological component at all. (Feminists generally take a nurture-over-nature view of what causes differences between the sexes, but radical feminists tend to be very focused and inflexible on this point. This is why some radfems in the 70s advocated lesbianism as an ideological statement- they believed that heterosexuality itself w… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/12 09:16 AM |
| 0 | Y'all turning into SRS. We need to fix this place.Nah, but the dismissive nature still remains(i.e. white knight, feminist, etc.) A false equivalence. If people in my town were under the mistaken impression that I was a white knight or feminist, I would not be worried that I would be abandoned by all my friends or unable to find a job or imprisoned or beaten up or killed because of it. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Got rejected for rejecting a person I wasn't attracted to.Not hard at all. But honeyinthelion was drawing a comparison between the OP and a hypothetical woman telling a man, unprompted, that she's rejecting him because of his penis size, so I pointed out that the two situations are not equivalent. How hard is actually checking the context in which a post was made before responding to it? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:56 PM |
| 8 | Got rejected for rejecting a person I wasn't attracted to.What if she had said to him "heyyyyyy this has been great but your dick is just TINY- not for me kthanxbye" his ego would be a little bruised too. She specifically asked if it was the hair. He didn't spontaneously volunteer the information. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 03:10 AM |
| 4 | Miesha Tate, Pro Female MMA fighter, “When a woman steps up to a man she should be treated as an equal, no discrimination,” explained Tate on Twitter. “I think if she slaps you, you should be able to slap her back 100%. It’s dumb to say a woman can but a man can’t.”Martial artists, at least in my experience, usually have a keener appreciation than most people that violence is serious business, and that turning a situation violent is a grave, irrevocable decision because of how frighteningly quickly and brutally a human being can be maimed or killed under the right circumstances. So it makes sense that a woman like this wouldn't have much tolerance for the idea that women should be free to hit men as if it were just another valid form of communication or se… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/12 06:16 AM |
| 5 | Miesha Tate, Pro Female MMA fighter, “When a woman steps up to a man she should be treated as an equal, no discrimination,” explained Tate on Twitter. “I think if she slaps you, you should be able to slap her back 100%. It’s dumb to say a woman can but a man can’t.”How about no one hits anyone? This sounds very pretty if you don't stop to think about it, but in actual practice you're merely defending the ability of aggressors to attack others with impunity. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/12 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.your an idoit. Beautiful. Just beautiful. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/12 08:06 AM |
| 0 | Are false rape accusations really a prevalent issue?I'm also curious if you consider rape to be a big deal. Go find some other subreddit to shit in, troll. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/12 03:58 AM |
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