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Discussionjonascf/r/MensRights08/04/15 11:52 AM
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Kind of true, although cockiness isn't necessary. Women like men that radiates confidence, and this can either come from having one's shit very much together or from being an easy-going dudeish kind of guy that moves through life with an air of outcome independence; the kind of guy that is just certain of always landing on their feet no matter what life throws at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:41 PM
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Almost everyone I know that has children are generally good people, so being a good social animal seems to still pay off in terms of fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:54 PM
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I'm sure it's possible to identify some things that are considered good by a majority of humans in a majority of societies/cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:52 PM
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Being good feels nice, that's enough motivation for most people. And yes; feeling nice is a reward from yourself to yourself, but that has no bearing on what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:50 PM
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Sometimes it's obvious, other times it's not. And experience makes you better at reading signals if there are any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:55 PM
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That has never happened. Flirting with beautiful women is fun even if it doesn't go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 08:07 AM
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Debate what? You haven't even presented a full argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:59 PM
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I'd say they were mostly out of my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:25 AM
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What outlets and virtualizations is the law preventing? And how are men dependant on women except for demographic issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:02 PM
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So men are dependant on women because of demographics? Sounds like we need more research into artifical wombs then. It would solve many problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:52 PM
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How are men being made to be dependant on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:22 PM
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No, men can't bring back anarchy. The majority of men would not accept that. We want order and rule of law.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:22 AM
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I'm polyamorous, that's why I would not benefit from enforced monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:12 AM
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I'm an average man and I would definitely not benefit from strictly enforced monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:41 AM
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A modern woman, because I prefer women from my own cultural sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:35 PM
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No special reason, monogamy just doesn't appeal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:20 AM
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They seek sexual relationships for the same reason as men; because sex with another person is more fun than masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:16 PM
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A community site for the swedish bdsm scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:49 AM
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Tbh; from my point of view it's hard to believe there's a relationship drought. There's quite a large group of young (early 20's) people working at the same place as me, and almost all of them are in steady relationships (the only two exceptions are both women).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:38 AM
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Never, nope and nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:29 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:46 PM
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Their social proofing effect will be bigger if they're actual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:43 PM
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Not blue pill, so I'll just reply here: When I was younger I met my partners IRL, mostly through a youth nature- and environmental organisation I was a member of. The last 10 years or so I've met most of my partners, flirts and fwbs through the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:47 PM
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I never said there are no rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:57 PM
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As someone that has been rejected very many times; good plan. But make sure to evaluate what went wrong afterwards. If you make an earnest attempt and raise your N high enough you'll learn a bit more about this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:36 PM
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You still have to actually do the practical stuff. Only reading won't suffice. But yes; human interactions are unpredictable and there are no certain outcomes. Perhaps it will be easier to accept if you think about it like you would think about chess or go or any other complex game; there are good strategies and tactics to use, but even if you use them the outcome will be uncertain against some players.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:24 PM
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You can study dating theorethically just like you can study any other skill. But you won't get that skill just from reading about it. The same can be said about certain aspects about being a bio-engineer such as lab work; you haven't mastered lab work or any other practical aspect of bioengineering until you've done it a certain number of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:58 PM
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I literally spilled coffee on my gf at our first date and she's still with me. The rules are not very rigid and there's plenty of room for winging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:55 PM
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Not always. I would say that I'm a good conversationalist, and I've complained a few times about others being lousy conversationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:48 AM
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"Not being a dry texter" is kind of the same as "not being a dry conversationalist", and that requirement has been around for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:11 AM
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Something similar could be said about the characters I'm talking about, they are usually more good than bad or they act for a higher purpose. But that's not the point; the point I'm making is that what one likes in fiction isn't necessarily an exact mapping of some secret and hidden desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:32 AM
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Why do we pretend that the fantasies we choose to indulge in aren't reflective of deeper desires or tendencies. Why do you assume it does reflect some "deeper" desires? Why can it not just be a curiosity about something that you don't have in your everyday life? E.g. I've recently discovered that one thing I find hot and exciting in fiction is women with a somewhat flawed moral compass. Does that mean that I secretly desire to have a relationship with such women? It's of course very plausible th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:48 PM
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Moving the goalposts, I see. But okay; spotting manipulation comes as easy as diaphragmic breathing does to me. I guess I'm just better at learning things than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:51 PM
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Breathing is not a skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:02 PM
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Good for you that spotting manipulative tactics comes as naturally as breathing. Is that what I actually said?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:39 PM
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That's a hard pass from me. I have more interesting conversations with a Turing machine or an AI chat bot than I do with people. That's your choice to make, but that also means that you're making a hard pass on any form of intimate relationships. Worst case scenario, everyone is subtly or overtly manipulating you when you try to engage so you learn really quickly that being 'open', 'honest' and 'clear' with your communication actually works against you in the long run and you have to be just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:09 PM
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By interacting with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:42 PM
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It has happened. Although I do, of course, prefer attractive women with attractive personalities. But I've never been attracted to an attractive woman with an unattractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:29 AM
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They kind of are fucking my personality since that's what's attracting them. And they have money of their own to pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:07 AM
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It's not a difficult thing to do if you get your sexual needs met in other relations. I imagine things might be different if I was sexually frustrated, but this is how things are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:45 PM
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My closest friend is a woman. When will I experience this inevatable heartache you're talking about? In a year? Two years?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 09:21 PM
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Of course not, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:57 PM
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The alternative is to be judged solely by your appearance. There's a third option; being judged by your personality and general vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:11 PM
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And my experience tells me the opposite. Isn't that weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:06 PM
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You could get all of those pieces of advice from most older men that has their life in order. And you wouldn't have to put up with the mindless consoomerism that Tate embraces.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:49 AM
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There's a difference between talking about things that are negative and being negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:25 PM
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Unique Selling Point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:47 AM
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Or has it never been better and Im just the victim of my poor social circles and rosetinted glasses when it comes to the past? It's possible that dating and relationships have become harder for many people today, and especially for younger (under 40) people. But from your description I would say that you're also a victim of a shitty social circle. Most people I met that are under 40 but above 25 are in long-term relationships and most of them seem to be satisfied or happy with their relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:49 PM
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I'm poly and I've never used the term "oppressed by monogamy" or any other sentence conveying that meaning. You probably just hang around shitty people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:21 PM
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Disagree since my lived experience says differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:54 PM
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Yes, you can. It's not very complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:46 PM
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Is there anything in there that was new or unexpected to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:08 AM
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It's not that long of a text, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:01 AM
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Most of it is pretty intuitive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 11:58 PM
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I've done that on almost every date I've been to. And it's been going rather well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:05 PM
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I'm usually kind of socially awkward since I can't really be bothered to switch on my social skills. But when I do that for some reason I'm usually extremely socially competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:58 PM
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Hypocritical might be the wrong word. Let's just call it weird instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:12 AM
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They should worry more about climate change than about childfree women then...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:43 PM
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There is no duty to me, but there is to your ancestors. Really? What are they gonna do about me not doing my "duty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:41 PM
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Why would that inspire hate? Indifference or pity seems like more sane reactions in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:36 PM
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Definitely. Thought it might be worth adding that I'm swedish and it's really not a big issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:44 AM
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are we ready to abandon traditional dating practices? I've already done it. I have never paid for the girls coffee on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:34 PM
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So bleak :D
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 08:15 PM
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You don't have to pay with resources in the western world. But time and attention is a must, for both men and women.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 07:23 PM
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By that logic everybody pays for everything all the time. Makes the word "pay" quite meaningless, doesn't it?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 07:03 PM
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It's just like getting any other friends? You happen to spend time together and connect in a non-sexual and non-romantic way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:13 PM
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What do they need to provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:01 PM
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I'm an average man and I'm doing fine with just going for coffee dates where we both pay for our stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:58 AM
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I do like the idea of coaching a woman through life, not helping her do basic things like any adult should be able to do but more like using me life experience to help her navigate her own life better. And there is an element of coaching or mentoring in my relationship with my girlfriends. They are both very close to me in age, but they have very little insight into their own psyche and emotional state and I have spent a lot of time helping them navigate that and understanding what they need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:27 PM
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The thing with non-verbal communication is that it's never unambiguous. The things that are considered indicators of interest might also be done for other reasons. That being said; it's very possible that some of the girls you thought were interested really were interested. Learn to trust your gut feeling.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 04:41 PM
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Nah, I know plenty of women that has similar dreams to your's.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 04:27 PM
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It doesn't matter at all because I don't feel that it has any bearing on how well suited someone is to be partner or a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:01 PM
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Or maybe your worldview is gloomy because you're a negative person? Seems like we're at an impasse here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:41 AM
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Not from where I'm seeing reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:21 AM
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What a sad view of human relationships you have. Where does it come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:37 AM
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I think it's healthy to want to get the most out of life, so just sitting around doing nothing or just being sedentary isn't really an option for me. But I'm the one that knows best what getting the most out of life means to me. Sex with beautiful women is nice, but I don't believe that I would get "more" out of life if I slept with models rather than just beautiful women in general. Having money is nice but I'm not sure that being a millionaire would add "more" to my life than just having simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:27 AM
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Not really engaging with my point, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:03 AM
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He'll never get to experience exactly everything life has to offer anyways, so why not just settle for what one actually feel is valuable and let go of the pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:36 PM
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The question is what if this just isn’t in your nature and you lean more toward introversion and prefer stability over spontaneity and are happy with a few hobbies that aren’t exactly appealing to women and aren’t overly ambitious? (Which I would say describes the average guy) This is a very accurate description of me, but some women do obviously find me interesting. This might seem a bit vague, but I think that much of it comes down to what kind of "vibe" one gives off. It seems some women like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:51 PM
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Nietzsche is entertaining, but I really can't take anyone seriously that suggests a philosophy of life and then fail to deliver proof of concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:38 PM
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It would be almost tolerable if they only negatively affected their own worthless, small little lives. But they negatively affect everyone's lives . Their toxin spreading indiscriminately. It's disgusting. Seems like these people are living rent free in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:35 PM
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This statement: You have such a short glimpse on being in this blue pearl, in an ocean of nothingness in the universe. Have no bearing at all on this statement: It is not ok to live a life of mediocrity. What are you even trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:34 PM
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I usually go on coffee dates, The cost is about the cost of a cup of coffee and perhaps a sandwich or something sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:01 PM
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Its also notable to point out that when you say "a guy is boring", the implication is that a "guy needs to tap dance & impress & entertain women". Not really. One can be not-boring by cultivating certain charasteristics because one wants them for oneself, and if one is lucky they also make one interesting to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:04 PM
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Ok, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:47 PM
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No, that's just you strawmanning OP's position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:44 PM
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Sounds like you're setting up a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:41 PM
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Is it really? Plenty of short guys do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:25 AM
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looks, not so much. That really depends on where you're starting from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:23 AM
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Yes. My own relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:13 AM
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Well, happy men doesn't make it into the news. It might be the case that we have many single men, but I think those are either rural (there's a gender imbalance in many rural places) or the kind of men that's not willing to make an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:38 PM
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No, not at all. Was a caretaker for people with special needs during the time when I got together with my two girlfriends, currently working as a biologist. You have to remember we're talking about swedish culture now, not american.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:32 PM
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Took some courses, but no degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:26 PM
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Nah, I need my money for taxonomic literature. My dates will have to make do with time attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:53 PM
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I actually hooked up with both my current gf's when I was broke. And since I could get that I deserved that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:12 PM
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Maybe the guy wants to go to a steakhouse and she can't afford it. The guys actually might choose a place near by his place and he can get to easily but she has to pay for her own transportation plus her own meal? She just spent more money than him for the night. If she's an adult she can communicate about those things and work out plans that suit her budget better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:10 PM
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Not OP but I'm a guy that never pays for the woman on a date and I have multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:09 PM
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I'm 172 cm, wich is below average here. But yes; I do have multiple partners. But no children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:24 AM
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Likes to wear makeup, dresses, short shorts, earrings, overall dresses to look feminine. Dresses; yes. Makeup; preferably very rarely. Likes cute plushies or cartoon characters like this . Similar to kawaii culture Sure, I like stuff like that as well. Is scared of spiders or insects, Preferably not, that's just impractical. Thinks lifting weights is for guys, prefers running / tennis / golf or non-lifting sports Nah, they can do whatever sport they want. Loves painting her nails or getting her …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:09 PM
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No, it's not wrong to want that. I prefer feminine women myself although I prefer them to not have some of the characteristics you listed as feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:10 PM
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Sweden, and it seems like we have a much healthier dating culture here. I'm an average guy that doesn't fully have my shit together, but I've never had a problem with dating and finding sex or relationships. But according to the posters with a US-centric perspective I should be screwed in the dating market...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:16 PM
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I would treat women the same and have the same type of relationships that I have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:17 PM
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If you see the relationship as transactional, then yes. That's a sad way of seeing relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:33 PM
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If I had a daughter I would advice her to make her own money and go for the guy that gives her what she needs emotionally rather than economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:32 PM
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coffee shops, inexpensive meals, and going for walks. That's how it is after sex as well. I'm frugal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:32 PM
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Or maybe it was just the case that many of the people that came in were younger and had partners of a similar age? Average height is still going up with each generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:18 PM
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Yeah, that was a study about a mutation that made some people less sensitive to the pair bonding effects of vasopresin or oxytocin. It turned out that people that were homologous for that mutation were less satisfied in their relationship/more likely to have had afairs. But polyamory and cheating isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:15 PM
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In this case; if they were more masculine they would be able to be direct about what they desire and also to set boundaries and not do anything that feels like a sacrifice just because they believe the girl will like them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:15 PM
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Are we fine with the behavior itself? The behaviour itself is fine. It's the thought process behind it that matters; what do you hope to get in return for these things and how do you feel about the possibility that you won't get what you're hoping for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:49 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:12 PM
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Confidence isn't about your achievements; it's about knowing yourself and honestly being able to say that you're close to being what you yourself would consider a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:49 PM
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Perhaps in the US. Here in Europe it's enough to be somewhat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:37 PM
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This is a limitation from your teaching source and your learning ability, not any kind of limit from learning through someone else's experience. I guess all teaching sources are limited then. Better to take the short cut through experience. And not wanting too learn from experience speaks a lot about someone's general limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:41 AM
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There's nothing particular about experiencing something that bequeaths a completely unique insight. There is actually. There are nuances and hard-to-convey knowledge that can often only be had by experience. There's a reason that most higher education for professionals has on-the-job-learning in the curriculum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:28 AM
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I did not deny the necessity of analysis and the use of other data than one's own experience. But lacking hands-on experience of a subject will always make a persons understanding more shallow than someone that has data, analysis and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:40 PM
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Nah, I've shown my emotions to my girlfriends plenty of times and they're still with me. I've also been very emotional in front of my female boss and she doesn't seem to respect me less as a worker after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:01 PM
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So they don't have suicides or they just pretend to not understand why suicide happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:51 PM
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Experience is not a guarantee of insight. They are separate things altogether. It's entirely possible to learn about something without having experienced it, and even to have more accurate and rigorous knowledge than someone who did. This is plainly wrong. Experience always improves your understanding of any subject and most of the time it's necessary to really master that particular subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:40 PM
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And the outcome of that is exactly what OP described; that guy gets laid less than the charismatic but less hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:29 PM
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I do self improvement as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:33 AM
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Dating isn't much of an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:23 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:46 PM
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Because dating, at least where I live, works just fine as long as you're able to support yourself and can afford a cup of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:28 PM
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They are! But not everybody agrees about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:25 PM
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Nah, I wore sweatpants to work today, probably will tomorrow as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:47 PM
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The last three points are good advice. The first one is utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:42 PM
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This sounds very much like a young and inexperienced man's approach to confidence. With age and life experience you'll come to understand that comparing your current self to your past self and understanding the road it took to get there is the ultimate source of confidence (given, of course, that you actually have improvements to look back on).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:16 PM
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Fair enough, but I would say that improving yourself has always led you to become more successful. But since you're doing well for yourself you don't need it. I'm improving myself, I just don't care about wether those improvements make me more attractive to women or not. I think most of the RP tenets are traditionally desirable masculine traits that are being rejected in today's world, and have to be relearned. To some extent yes; but a lot of rp guys seem to be all about "enjoy the decline" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:34 PM
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Ok, but that's not falsifiable and would probably take away from my quality of life. According to my pill I'm doing good enough and that kind of well balanced and simple life is what everyone should aspire to. Do you actually disagree with RP concepts, or do you just hate their members? I find their obsession with money and status weird, and kind of pathetic. And the whole negging thing just make them seem like little school boy bullies rather then men. But I do agree with their belief that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:42 PM
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I would say alternative number 1 for both sexes. Don't know it it affects my sex and dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:22 PM
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The issue is ultimately that there is no one universal truth in life. That's why being clear about one's axioms is even more necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:11 PM
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Most of RP used to be successful men sharing their personal experiences and results with RP techniques. The generalization comes from combining the results of these strategies into a field guide for modern day gender dynamics. How did they account for confirmation bias and the possibility of a non-random selection of informants? I would call myself decently succesful with women both according to the metric of getting fwbs and getting serious relationships (I'm polyamorous, so both those things c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:50 PM
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Wouldn't it be more uplifting to write about all the men that manages to date and have relationships despite not being wealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:34 PM
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If you live in a country with a welfare system it's possible to not work and still have food and shelter. But you have to apply for it and it's kind of a miserable life. I guess the best strategy would be to get diagnosed with some kind of disability and live of disability support; but that's a very long process and it might not work even if you're actually unable to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:57 PM
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Being on welfare is miserable, you have to be a really sad person to actively chose that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:54 PM
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Being on welfare is miserable, but if miserable people wanna make themselves even more miserable I guess they're free to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:52 PM
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Well, my dick don't work well and I'm not even 6'. True for me as well, but it doesn't really hold me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:39 PM
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The Internet is a reflection of the IRL sphere A very warped reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:38 PM
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Cool. The issue of settling was actually brought up during conversation with my gf today and she said that getting into a relationship with me had thaught her that relationships can be better than just "settling".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:14 PM
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Sounds like second hand experiences to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:44 PM
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dinner and drinks totaling ~$150 + the possibility of fucking/not being used for food dates; You don't have to do any of that. pay the bills, take care of kids, let her drive the car, Those should be shared costs/efforts in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:39 PM
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If you are concerned about the incel problem then do something about it. What do you propose people should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:37 PM
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What happened to actions speak louder than words? Wouldn't you have to go out in the world to actually see some of people's actions? I did and I'm pretty happy with what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:36 PM
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Because even if you're below 8 - 10 in looks you can still get girls. And even if you can't get girls you can still have a good life (probably).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:05 PM
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That was always allowed, if you can find one. Stop being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:32 AM
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You're just paying attention to the wrong women. Or live in the wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:43 PM
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Guess I should count myself lucky then. But I think there are plenty of guys in the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:57 PM
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True, you have to be in the right kind of relationship for that. But it's possible to have the best of two worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:53 PM
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Most men have to settle for relationship sex, if they can even get that. Are you saying relationship sex can never be "validational "I'm really sexually attracted to you" sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:42 PM
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Since I'm in a relationship; about once a week, it's possible it would be more if I had the time and energy for it. Since I'm in an open relationship; casual sex seems to happen like once or thrice per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:59 PM
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As I said; to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:32 PM
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She knows I protect her better than anyone else which is why she never wants to go out without me. She would rather stay home and do yoga or go to enriching lessons for herself. Sounds a bit sus to be honest. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:39 PM
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So then: how does this "men should be dominant" heuristic work if the woman is just much more intelligent than the man? Should a 145 IQ girl "submit" herself to a 110 IQ guy because of his alpha characteristics? Do these alpha characteristics really matter as much in navigating a complex, information age world as abstract reasoning ability? Not a red piller and I don't buy the alpha bullshit, but I would like to give my two cents anyways: One of my girlsfriends is definitely smarter than me (she…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:21 PM
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Two short sessions, wich is bit less than I need to feel good. But I haven't gotten used to working full time yet, so I'm planning to slowly easing into working and also find the time and energy to exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:58 PM
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I am doing my thing. Just wanted to be counterweight to your negativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:45 PM
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I'm just saying that solution I wrote will prevent friendzoning 100% of the time. But it will also take away some possibilities for friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:32 PM
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Better solution; have some women that suck your dick and some that are your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:34 PM
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I guess it's mostly about not caring if I have a career or not. But then there are also some noticeable such as choosing comfort over style in clothing, living in a shared apartment, making some alternative life choices such as being polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:54 AM
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I think that being deeply into a subculture at the age of 30 makes a person seem immature and incapable of growth and that will be a turn-off for many. But retaining a tad bit of some subcultural markers might make a person seem more interesting and self-determined and thus more attractive to some. I've always been a bit bohemian in both style and lifestyle, but I'm still successful with women although I'm sure my bohemian style might have turned a few away
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:34 AM
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As a man, how am I supposed to know when exactly to go for it? Women give signals as well, but they're sometimes very subtle and it takes some practice learning to read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 06:34 PM
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If she turns you down, move on. Or stay friends if she's the kind of person you want as a friend. I've done both, and were happy with the results in both cases. I might also have accidentally friendzoned some women, and that I'm less happy about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:44 AM
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I don't think rp is really working and I agree that it will never become mainstream. But I do think that some aspects of trp, stuff that's not exclusive to it, will become more mainstream. Mostly things that relate to embracing a more traditional masculinity. This doesn't necessarily mean that there will be permanent shift to the right, it might as well mean that "culturally conservative/economically progressive" might a more common political identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:53 PM
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173 cm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:37 PM
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You don't even need all of those things. I do like three of them and that's sufficient (muscle, frame, some form of status).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:57 AM
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I agree that it would be nice if women were more active in the dating game. And I'm sure plenty of women agree as well. But change is slow and this life is your only chance to experience sex and romance, so I'd suggest you take my advice and then go out there and practice your flirting skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:38 AM
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Problem is that most men doesn't know how to find the appropriate levels of being flirty. You need to learn to read the situation and see when it's time to up the flirtiness, suggestiveness and when to tone it down. That way you can be both wholesome and connect with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:42 AM
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Cool; where's that stats that show that it's actually the most effective way to improve one's dating success? And remember; anecdotes are not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:47 PM
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She faked her desire pretty well early on Well, unless you encounter someone incredibly skilled or let your desire cloud your judgement you won't fall into that trap again. Ultimately my lack of options due to my looks are the biggest problem Looks matter, but they're not all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:58 PM
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Emotional support I don't mind that part, I enjoy talking care of people. dealing with her family Hasn't been much of that in my latest relationships. having to spent money on her in most likely an uneven level compared to her I usually spend very little money on dates and such. It's not my love language. no variety I'm in an open relationship, so I'm able to introduce some variety when I feel the need.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:56 PM
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What's so horrible about commiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:27 PM
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Why would you enter a relationship with someone that isn't physically attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:26 PM
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Damn, I really need to get back into exercising so that I can inspire lustful thoughts again...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:51 PM
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She doesn't actually love you for your self and uniqueness, but what she gets from being with you, what you provide for her and once you stop providing that or stop giving her that feeling or once that lifestyle evaporates, so does her love for you. The same can be said about men's feeling for their woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:03 PM
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I have neither the desire or ability to provide for a woman. But I still want a soft and feminine woman although they don't have to be traditional. Luckily I've found two such women, so I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:10 PM
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Getting "leadership" may in theory sound ridiculous (rationally u ask urself why u should lead someone in a relationship) I've never doubted why I should take the lead since I started doing that. It's simply because I have more lived experience and insight than my girlfriends. But I guess someone younger would have to really ask themselves that, and make sure to be up to the task of leading before they take on that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:31 PM
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I guess I've only been to pubs then. But I would just order a coffee anyways, so I'll stick with coffeehouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:36 AM
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Aren't bars and pubs the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:31 AM
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I stopped caring about what's cool a long time ago. Now I only care about what's comfortable and bars are often too noisy for my taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:29 AM
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What's the difference between a bar and a coffee house in this context? As for activities; they might be good if you can find something you can both agree on but that's not always easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:31 AM
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Ok, I read it as you being upset about being a meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:06 AM
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The freebies: I (and some of my friends too) had dates where the woman would say "I'm not intrested because of (this physical trait)" only after we pay the bill. I believe those who invited the other for a fate should pay (hence guys 98.952749% times) but the above situation makes us apprehensive of going to any future dates. Do coffee dates instead of dinner dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:58 AM
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it's in a man's best interest to always have money, want to make money, and be determined enough to make money. That sounds exhausting and not for me, but you do you. But I guess I'm in a position to say that because I'm not planning to have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:43 PM
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Have you never had boring sex with a hot woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:00 PM
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Just bodies; yes. But give me a good body and a hint of an alluring personality and I'm very warm-blooded again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:24 AM
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When you've seen enough pretty women in bikini (irl and online) it's really not a big deal anymore, you need something more to actually be attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:21 AM
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It does absolutely nothing for me since they don't show of any personality in their pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:18 AM
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As an average guy; it's perfectly fine. I get some female attention, and sometimes dates with hot chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:33 PM
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Some women will approach a man they like, for sure, but I think that's very rare. In my experience a better sign of a girl liking you is that she displays an eagerness to remain in your presence even if there are other places to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:03 PM
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How do I overcome this? Stop comparing yourself to others and start comparing your present self to your former self.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:50 PM
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I had a long-term fwb/casually dating thing going on with a woman that was overweight. I did find her very attractive despite that and I know for sure that I wasn't the only one that felt that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:26 PM
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Can y’all stop doing this shit? Not doing that shit, I'm happy with what I have and doesn't compare myself to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:42 PM
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Is it possible that being online and being chronically online are two qualitatively different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:26 AM
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Details matter when coming up with sound advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:44 PM
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Women fuck winners, No, women fuck confident men. And most of the time being a "winner" breeds confidence. And being unsuccesful in the eyes of society might strip a man of his confidence. But you don't have to be a "winner" to be confident and get laid. Source: my own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:03 PM
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They should listen to older, more experienced men that they meet through work, church, clubs and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:18 PM
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I'd rather be with someone that has acquired bagage and then worked through it (or is ready to start doing it) than with someone that hasn't encountered any hardships. Being jaded isn't good or appealing, for sure, but neither is being oblivious to how the world really is. My favourite type of person are the one's that can see the world with both it's good and it's bad sides clearly and still find beauty and joy in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:45 PM
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When have the words "innocence" and "purity" ever described something bad? Innocence isn't something bad in itself, but it's something inferior to wisdom and worldliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:02 PM
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I've never understood why innocence is alluring to some people. To me it's just synonymous with cluelessness and there's nothing alluring about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:37 PM
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I do. Going on dates is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:53 AM
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Sure, outright ugly people exist. But they're exceptionally rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:10 PM
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One of my best friends is very extroverted, energetic, smiles a lot, always have a joke for everything... and she is constantly fighting against depression. You can still have moments of happiness while fighting depression; it's not necessarily a state of constant sorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:28 PM
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I don't believe that at all. Maybe you have low standards. I don't think I can give any meaningful answer to that if you have already decided that I have low standards. It seems that both my girlfriends are the kind of women that are wanted by many other men as well, but perhaps they also have low standards. The important thing is that I'm happy with them. But it's constantly this way. Sometimes it feels like I'm trying to sell refridgerators to Eskimos. Perhaps you give off the wrong vibe? Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:52 AM
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I guess it's matter of culture/social circles as well as generation then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:32 PM
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It's simply better than admitting how fucked up the economy is or how incredibly superficial we are becoming as a society, not to mention the ugly truths about human attraction. I think that's just true for the younger generations if true at all. I'm poor, ugly and socially anxious in my 40's and dating has never been a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:09 PM
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Now, there is some leeway if you are hot or doing some BDSM daddy play, You don't have to involve the daddy part to get that leeway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:38 AM
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The bar for what she considers good sex might be raised with time if a woman has many sexual partners. But it might also help her understand her own body and sexuality better, making it easier for her to be turned on and thus easier to please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:36 AM
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It doesn't take that long to learn if you communicate with your partner. But yes; there seems to he a sexual satisfaction gap between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:36 PM
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Trial and error, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:45 AM
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But I often see women use "you've never made a woman orgasm" as an insult to guys online. Which got me thinking... This is used as an insult because it's considered a skill that every bi- or heterosexual man should have to be considered masculine. So it takes aim at a persons masculinity, not their fulfilment of duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:10 PM
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There's plenty of other guys in the same situation, and most guys can have it if they really want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:26 AM
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Nah, I don't spend more money on my partners than they spend on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:35 AM
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and also through their time and energy. You can't really be in a relationship without spending time and energy. But I understand why you included that; it's a necessary addendum to keep your bleak wiev of relationships from crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:19 AM
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I really like the opposite gender, most of my friends are women and I tend to get along better with women most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:27 PM
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I wouldn't chose someone I don't find good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:14 AM
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The first one of course; good looking women will look good without much effort and the cooking and cleaning issues can be solved by simply making a deal about what's expected from each person when it comes to household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:49 PM
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As I said; this was a niche community, and that might make some difference. But yes, you gotta stand out in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:09 AM
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I've met plenty of women online, niche communities (a bdsm community in this case) seems to be way better than dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:37 PM
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If only there was some middle ground between being meek and dull and being a creep and an asshole....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:58 PM
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It can be exercised to some degree, but there might be fundamental differences that can't really be overcome and that's why it's good to know beforehand what you yourself like and what your partner likes. Which can only happen if you check the other boxes (caring, etc). You did see that I included those things, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:36 PM
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Well, sex is an important part of relationships and that's why sexual compatibility is important, especially if you're going for a monogamous one. I don't really see why that's hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:20 PM
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The deeper you dig with the long term couples around you the more you’ll see how low key unhappy they are. When does the unhappiness set in?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:12 PM
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Being those things and being sexually compatible with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:11 PM
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I don't have much in the way of accomplishments either, but I'm mostly very confident when it comes to flirting and the like. Why? Because I know what effect I have on people when I show my best side, and that's enough to make me feel confident in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:53 PM
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If there should be such a tax it should be for both genders since men are also to blame for their failures to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:54 AM
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I'm one of those guys. The people I've had some sort of sexual or romantic relationship with has been all over the attractiveness scale. Looks are important, for sure, but what's more important is the general vibe a person gives off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:42 AM
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Perhaps. No woman has ever asked me for money or material things so maybe I'm not aware of how those things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:47 PM
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Western women demands absurd amounts of time, energy, money, patience and more from men... No, some women demand that. And I'm pretty sure that many women from more traditional parts of the world demand such an amount of money that it will drain any man of energy and occupy most of his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:01 PM
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No, I like it as well. Why else would I come here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:54 PM
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Perhaps. I guess some of them are just frustrated at what they perceive as having to jump through hoops to get sex and that makes them desire the absolute opposite instead of the middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:00 AM
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From a purely secular worldview standpoint there is nothing odd or objectionable about that. Wanting sex without a personal connection can actually be seen as odd from some secular standpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:37 PM
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"You're tired of being the man that women will only talk about their feelings or hobbies with. At best. You want to exude masculine sexuality. You want women to not waste time with small talk and see you purely for your sexual value and little else." I wouldn't say it's wrong to want this, but it's certainly misguided and I don't think it actually makes any man happier. Being sexually desired is nice, for sure, but I can't see how sex without a personal connection can be anything but empty and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:36 PM
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What is it that you're deprived of and how is this deprivation being carried out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:38 PM
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Too bad. I'm pretty happy with mine and I'm sure you could be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:21 PM
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You may be the shittiest person on earth and a combination of those will still grant you success with women. Sure, but what kind of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:23 AM
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You're not happy with your own life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:22 AM
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She deserves to be happy, and if she's happy with me that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:26 PM
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If you’re with her because you love her you believe she’s above average No, not really. I love them because they have a unique mixture of characters that fits well with my personality. I know that my partners are above average in some ways, average in others and below average in some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:17 PM
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I have two partners, they're both free to leave whenever they want to. There's nothing except feelings that ties them to me, so the fact that they stick around does tell me that I'm good for them, and also that I'm better than any alternative that has presented itself so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:32 PM
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Nah, it is okay to have preferences actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:37 PM
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I usually manage to have outcome independence and to not expect anything, neither rejection nor success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:34 PM
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People really still believe in romantic love? Yes. I'm old and world weary, but I still feel loved in a romantic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:26 PM
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Some women do, others doesn't. But yeah; back when I had three different jobs I always noticed that people reacted differently depending on wich one of them I chose to lead with when they asked me what I do for a living. The different status of the jobs might have been one part of it, but I also think that some of the difference is due to how easy the different jobs are to use as jumping-off points for conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:01 PM
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Would you say sex is the highest form of intimacy? No. I would say that showing one's weaknesses and insecurities to someone is the highest form of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:32 PM
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Ah, so you're against genetic engineering on people, not on plants and animals. I guess that makes some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:58 PM
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But you're fine with traditional selective breeding of crops and animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:54 PM
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That's a diverse set of examples. But to take the one closest to this issue; why are you against genetic engineering?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:51 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:41 PM
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A lot of stuff we already do goes against nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:39 PM
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Cool stuff, I really hope this tech get's launched on a societal scale soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:39 PM
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Where do you draw the line? We're already doing a lot of messing with mother nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:37 PM
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I really think that technology like that would be good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:37 PM
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Polyamorous, involved in two relationships. First one going on it's 10th year now and the second one going on it's 5th.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:46 PM
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My unpopular take; dating is a lot of fun and not at all the tedious chore some people on this sub make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:35 AM
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Very few people are disqualified from the start. I'm not conventionally or unconventionally attractive, but I'm good at reading people and understanding what makes them tick and that has made up for my lack of looks when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:06 AM
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Seems like we have different criteria for beauty. That's cool, we're all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:43 AM
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Oh FFS nobody is disputing that younger women are hotter! That's just a matter of taste. When I recall the women I've met that I would consider "incredibly beautiful" the absolute majority of them where in their 30's and up when I met them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:18 PM
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It's not the same because there will always be the suspicion that the man going to poorer countries are using his economic position as his main bait, and people are instinctively repulsed by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:44 PM
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So separating socioeconomic class and attractiveness isn't a problem? Got'cha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:32 PM
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I'm with you if we replace gangste bros with something else, say construction workers, since it's a specific type of personality that dates gangster bros. It's not about class. With that being said; why it is bad that stem bros has to compete with construction workers? This means that they can also compete for working class women and thus have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:28 PM
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For example, when the stem nerds have to compete with the gangster bros, that creates social chaos as now the stem nerds don't have a specific group of women they are dating amongst. No, this just means the stem nerds have to start working out and maybe take up bjj or hunting or something else to come off as more masculine. And also; wether a girl would consider dating a gangster or not is more dependent on personality than class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:16 PM
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Well, that's why it seems useful to you. I've done fine without the red pill and sometimes by doing the exact opposite of what they say one should do, and that's why it seems like snake oil to me. But I guess I could be convinced of the general usefulness of the red pill theoretical construct if there's some proof that it works better for a randomly selected population than other alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:32 PM
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Has redpill theories given you a better outcome in the areas of sex and dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:18 PM
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When it comes to what's helpful for certain things; yes. In all other cases I leave that judgement to the scientific community.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:09 PM
1

So your view should be consistent to all people that do this. Not really; it's the quality and usefulness of the categorizing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:02 PM
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Well, you're the one that was trying to claim that I have to have a specific opinion because of reasons and I pointed out that I don't have that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:54 PM
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I don't, actually. I literally work with applied science so that would be pretty weird...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:48 PM
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Well, in my lived experience, it absolutely does. You see how useless personal anecdotes are? Not useless at all since it's just about personal guidance, you don't need more than your own experience for that. You do you and I do me. And I will keep thinking that red pillers are bunch of over-thinkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:35 PM
1

I don't give any credit to red pill theories because they don't jive with my lived experience. As for studies on human mating and sexual behaviour; there are probably some that supports the red pill and some that support the blue pill. Do you have an example of a red pill hypothesis that has stood up to falsification attempts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:17 PM
2

I'm a somewhat advantaged (49 points) average Joe (12 points). I guess my takeaway is that the combination of those two things aren't bad at all when it comes to sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:14 PM
3

Is science not the formulation of theories based on the current collective empirical data, research and evidence? There's also the teeny tiny little detail of testing and falsifiability...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:51 PM
1

When scientists or researchers formulate theory’s about how the world works, are they simply over-thinking life? So what are the criteria for falsifying RP hypotheses? How can they be tested?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:50 PM
1

How does science influence your decisions about dating and sex? Not one bit. I let my own experience guide me and that seems to be working very well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:21 PM
1

I'm poly and I never fiercely compete about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:13 PM
2

I can tell you've never been in a poly relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:12 PM
2

Nah, the women that doesn't want multiple partners usually doesn't wanna be with poly men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:05 PM
0

Because it doesn't lead to a few men monopolizing a large proportion of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:56 PM
2

You'll do better in the future, I'm sure of it. Stable and close romantic relationships are great for one's quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:49 PM
1

Polygamy would be unstable, yes. Polyamory wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:57 PM
5

So how long is your longest relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:53 PM
10

I'm polyamorous. I don't consider it a refuge from the drudge of monogamy; it's just how I wanna life my life and there's nothing more to it. Some people, both supporters of monogamy and nonmonogamy, are way to dramatic over things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:24 PM
1

Heavy drug use Unchecked mental health issues Status obsession Materialist/consumerist mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:39 PM
1

My experience is different: relationships with girls that have similar interests didn't work out very well. But things are going very well with my two current girlfriends that doesn't share any of my interests. Although that might be due to me being older and better at relationships, but it does indicate that shared interests isn't that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:36 PM
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No, because cheating isn't about what she does with her body. It's about what she does with a thing you have in common; your relationship and the agreements and boundaries that comes with it. The same can of course be said for things like wearing revealing clothes, but in most modern relationships that's left as an individual choice rather as an agreement between the parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:26 PM
1

I would definitely consider it a problem and potential reason to back out of a relationship.' I want a calm, simple life and I have no intention of helping to clean up messes that could have been easily avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:01 PM
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Instead of selling OnlyFans content sell subscription access to your pussy Would you chose a risky and messy way to make money if a less risky and messy one was available to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:09 AM
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No, that's not how the dating market works at all. Everyone can have a preference, but the more specific they are the harder it will be to find the kind of partner they prefer. And of course this difficulty will also be affected by what attractive qualities the person has or lacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:20 PM
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43 M It does take some work, but I generally enjoy flirting and all that, so it's not really something I resent. Sex rarely happens on the first date, but to be honest I'm not to fond of the idea of going that fast, I prefer to get to know the person and build tension first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:12 PM
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Sure, but that doesn't change the facts about what we're discussing. There's plenty of women that cares wether you're a good person or not, enough of them that being a good person is a good dating strategy. If you don't see that it's probably because you lack life experience or have moved in to narrow social and cultural circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:00 PM
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Perhaps, but if the exceptions becomes to many the rule is no longer a rule, it's just one of many possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:50 PM
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Better let my gfs know that they need to leave me then since I have neither status nor resources then... It's sad, really, but who am (or they) I to argue with someone's anecdotal evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:43 PM
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Women don't care if you're a good person. Some women do, others don't. If you strive to be a good person you should of course chose women that reward being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:28 PM
1

If your end goal is to sleep with as many women as possible, you are most likely from a lower socioeconomic background. I am from a lower socioeconomic background and I'm not ashamed of that. And one of my goals in life is to have a lot of good sexual experiences. But to me that doesn't entail sleeping with as many women as possible. But of course monogamy is out of the question, at least for me :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:28 PM
3

I just visit this sub because I find sex and attraction to be fascinating subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 06:37 PM
3

But if she's had like forty or fifty guys before ever meeting me, That's extremely rare. Don't worry about the least likely scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:24 PM
1

I live a life similar to what you describe but that hasn't been a problem. I have two women in my life; one of them simply doesn't want many options, and the other one is more than capable of creating her own opportunities. You don't have to be able to offer the world; it's enough if you're able to offer what the woman in question needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:33 PM
1

why don't older men take younger men to brothels anymore Because that's creepy as fuck and people in general doesn't wanna be creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:15 PM
1

Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:34 AM
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And I can tell you that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:55 PM
1

Are poor men doomed to be economically single? I imagine this really starts to ramp up when you hit your 30s and 40s. Poverty then becomes a disease. I'm poor and doing very well when it comes to relationships and sex. So it's not a problem unless you live in a backwards culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:51 PM
1

Each person pays for their own stuff. It's really that simple and there's no need to try making it more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:37 PM
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Why must I be mature? You don't have to, but if you wanna be seen as and treated as an adult you have to be mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:31 PM
14

And why is the expectation for the person being snubbed to take the high road and bow out respectfully? Because they initiated the interaction despite knowing there's a risk of being snubbed, so it's only fair to say that they've accepted the risk of being snubbed and should accept the outcome whatever it is. Being angry in that situation is just as stupid as getting angry when buying a lottery ticket and not winning anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:30 PM
3

I'm happy that sex can now be a fun activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:43 PM
1

I've struggled with depression since I was 15 (I'm 43 now), so I know the struggle. And it does suck to not be understood and to not receive much empathy, but it's still possible to make things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:03 PM
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I think he meant polyamory, wich would give more men access to at least some romance and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:17 AM
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Very few men have zero mating prospects, so I don't really see the problem. There are however a large group of men that struggle romantically because of things that they could remedy if they made an effort, and to some extent we as a society might need to extend a hand to them and help them make that effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:10 AM
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172 cm. Which is below average for a swedish man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:54 PM
2

Poly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:26 PM
0

Good for you. I'm a slightly below average length white guy that is also kind of poor and overworked, but for some reason I have two hot girlfriends and a few fwbs. Can't really explain that in any other way than that it's my personality that makes that possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:34 AM
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Some do like it, for a limited time and with the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:20 AM
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Validation in the form of sex or desire-based attention is a great boost for one's ego. But you don't have a good life if that kind of validation is the one you seek the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:50 PM
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Nah, you do it. This isn't going anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:39 AM
1

Well, there might be several different reasons as to why they interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:48 AM
1

So what kind of interactions are we talking about then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:29 PM
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From my experience; love. If we're talking relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:19 PM
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Only people that believe they have nothing to offer but their body gets body dysmorphia from watching jacked actors. I'm not saying it's unneccesary to be fit though, there are plenty of reasons why it's a good idea and one of them is that it's nice to look good naked. But it's not the most important thing when it comes to dating and young men shouldn't let themselves be led to believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:18 PM
1

Still doesn't explain why it would be less bad for a man to let himself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:13 PM
1

What's the meaningful difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:54 PM
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For you to admit that it's equally disrespectful for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:44 PM
2

We were talking about getting fat, wich is equally disrespectful to your partner wether you're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:42 PM
5

I think men prefer both youthful women and hot mature women. Hotness isn't just about age, and most men that doesn't have an age fetisch knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:40 PM
5

How are milfs not traditionally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:50 PM
1

I'd say it's equally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:49 PM
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Do you feel the same way about men who get's out of shape once married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:12 PM
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Men have already been conditioned by society and culture to be attracted to women they previously weren't. Really? When did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:10 PM
1

I consider myself straight forward and I don't follow the strategy you describe. But I guess we all have our ways and definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:37 PM
1

Sure, outcome independence can come from many sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:31 PM
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Being chill is way easier than being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:47 PM
1

You can be laidback and aggressive. There's a difference between being straight forward and being aggressive, right? Did you really mean aggressive or did you actually mean straight forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:44 PM
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No, it's because they have a feeling of outcome independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:42 PM
1

I'm 43.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:57 PM
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I have never yelled and I have never been yelled at in a relationship and someone doing that would be a dealbreaker for sure. I expect my partners to have some control over the expression of their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:30 PM
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I'm introverted as fuck but have no problems getting into relationships. It's not about introversion or extroversion, it's about having or not having social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:52 PM
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Be flirty and be open about what you want when flirting but let your abundance mentality and outcome independence shine through in everything you do and say while you test the waters to see if there's any chemistry there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:25 PM
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Nah, sexual enthusiasm is based on desire and desire can't be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:47 PM
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Enthusiasm either comes naturally or it has to be faked, and in this scenario it doesn't seem to come naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:31 AM
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play your role and play it well. If you're a normally perceptive person you will always be able to tell that she's faking the enthusiasm. Unless you happen to marry a first class actress, wich I find unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:19 AM
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And the end result is me being happy in that aspect of the relationship. You would never be happy with the sex in that situation. At least not if you're a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:15 AM
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Doesn't she get creeped out by dating a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:20 PM
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You old hags are delusional 😂😂😂 I'm a man actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:34 AM
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It just says women become less attractive after 30. Tell me you never met a woman above the age of 30 without telling me you've never met a woman above the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:24 AM
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Probably because you're looking at what they're doing and try to emulate that rather than being inspired by what kind of person they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:23 PM
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Not zero, but socials skills comes in many different forms. I'm awkward as fuck, but I'm good at reading people and that has helped me a lot when it comes to getting laid and finding girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:21 PM
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Incels are probably bad at being fun to be around, and also bad at escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:20 PM
2

Definitely true. I compensate for my ugliness by having things to say and that works very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:41 PM
1

So you mastered the first step. Now learn to be a bit more assertive and direct about what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:48 PM
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In my experience this is what makes a man good enough to get into a relationship and also have some casaul sex; Be able to support yourself. I got a lot more women and attention after getting off welfare. Be able to actually listen to and communicate with your partner, to take what they say to hearth and act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:22 AM
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I have no money and no status, but I have two girlfriends that have stuck with me for 9 and 4 years so far. So in my experience; it's not about money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:42 AM
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Nah, I have two girlfriends and I snagged them both while I was working as a caretaker for people with special needs (wich is considered an important but low-status job here).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:31 AM
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How do you imagine Billy Beta's life to be (let's say in a best case scenario)? It's kind of hard to say wether he can be happy without knowing anything about the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:29 PM
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Now compare it to dating, you get the same things out of it maybe minus the validation that you "seduced" someone or that "i'm hot". But that validation feels fucking awesome. Why would a person not work to get that? be rich/handsome/tall/charming all the time, can't ever "turn it off" for a few minutes I'm only one of those, and turning it off for moment doesn't really make a difference if I have already connected with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:47 PM
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Nah, I'm a loser and I have two girlfriends that are often hit upon by men that are more succesful than me. But maybe there are many different ways of being a winner? I guess that would work as an explanation of my situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:34 PM
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Is the prospect of more pussy really that enticing to make you put all that extra social responsibility on your back? Nope. I like sex, but I wouldn't risk my wellbeing by taking on a high workload just so that I could get more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:59 PM
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Because I prefer my sexual partners to want me rather than my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:45 PM
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I find the topics of relationships, attraction etc to be interesting topics, probably because I've had some struggles with them in my life but managed to figure some stuff out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:53 PM
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Talk to her about how it makes you feel and what changes you'd like to see. And if she doesn't respect you enough to change you just leave her. Of course you can just tell her that she can't keep doing girl's nights. But if she doesn't care enough about the relationship to understand why that's a good idea she'll just end up resenting you and you've just landed yourself in miserable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:01 PM
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Also can actual polyamorous people answer. I'm polyamorous. I have two girlfriends and I've been with one of them for close to nine years and with the other one for close to four years now. So far I must say that it's working very well. Feel free to ask if there's anything you wanna know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:35 AM
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I only do coffee dates where we each pay for our own stuff. Has worked very well for me so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 09:49 AM
2

Darwinian natural selections works on genes or individuals (I guess that's kind of a philosophical question), but there are no examples of it working on groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:05 AM
2

So what did you mean with anti-darwinism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:54 AM
2

Sure, but there's nothing anti-darwinistic about that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:49 AM
1

I don't believe that humility is genetically inherited, but I'd be willing to change my mind if you have some studies indicating otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:48 AM
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But when fit (and thus good looking) and high IQ people breed more than those that only fit one of those criteria it does create a stronger gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:43 AM
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So these men no longer being attractive is anti-darwinism, it will lead to a worse overall state to humankind! There's nothing anti-darwinistic about society reverting back to a simpler form.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:40 AM
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Even if it did, why should it exclude me seeing escorts in the mean time? Your post was about substituting dating with seeing sex workers, and that's what I'm arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:43 PM
0

It's great that your quality of life has improved, but it will improve even more if you manage to find a partner that you can connect emotionally to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:34 PM
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I guess that depends on what kind of person you or the friend is. I wouldn't really accept a friend totally losing themselves in emotion in front of me, but I would accept that from a partner although I would never act that way myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:21 AM
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The same caveats apply for being emotional both with a partner and with a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:13 AM
2

I actually think most women are okay with men being emotional, as long as it's done in the right way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:42 AM
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Has anyone thought of not dating and visiting sex workers all the time? Do you think this is healthy? No, it doesn't sound healthy at all. You'll miss out on the emotional connection to your sexual partner and that will take a toll on your wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:53 AM
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Seems I've found one of the few that won't then. Lucky me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:51 AM
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What are those consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:42 AM
1

That's not true in my experience. I work odd jobs and doesn't make much money. I actually make less than both my girlfriends but that doesn't seem to bother them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:58 AM
1

I'm an average man and I would hate myself if I ever went to a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:36 AM
1

What does "winning" in dating entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:31 AM
1

As someone that checks some of those boxes and is definitely below the top 20% in attractiveness I would say; keep on trying! That's what I did and it worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:41 AM
2

Isn't it even easier if everyone just pays for their own stuff? No back-and-forth, no weird games.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:11 PM
1

Most people have limited funds, but we make do with what we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:10 PM
1

Not in my experience. But I guess it differs between cultures and social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:08 PM
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Nah, I was just encouraging men that might read this to think a bit different than tradition dictates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:07 PM
0

It does work actually, so I'll stick with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:05 PM
2

Just take her out for some drinks at a low key romantic bar with music and buy a round or two. Coffee is better than drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:02 PM
2

So if I'm not planning to put a baby in her I don't have to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:00 PM
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It's very black and white to people that doesn't actually like the company of other people. More social people understand that there's a ton of nuance and that only paying for yourself is often an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:59 PM
7

no harm done but a really man MUST buy the first round of drinks. What happens if he doesn't? Does the universe explode?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:57 PM
0

I show interest by being a good conversationalist and getting to know her. But I guess that's not an option for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:56 PM
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Sure, but men that actually spend some time with women get a more realistic image of what it takes. And it's not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:32 PM
2

Ok, buddy. You're free to be angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:40 AM
2

Some women reject me, others doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:18 AM
3

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:12 AM
13

Women spend a lot more on upkeep and getting ready than men That's their choice, I've never asked a woman to spend a lot on her upkeep and getting ready before a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:26 AM
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Do you have to pay? Hell no. But unless you're that interesting a guy to compensate I wouldn't tell you not to. It does suck that it's never truly equal but nature doesn't really care how we feel. TIL I learned that I'm an interestint guy. Awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:23 AM
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You approached her and want her to take time out of her day. I made her a suggestion that she's free to accept or decline. If she accepts I assume that she wants to spend time with me and is willing to pay for her own coffee to be able to spend that time somewhere comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:22 AM
0

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:41 PM
2

Is there a list of those exceptions to the rules? I imagine that I might fit some of them, but I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:19 PM
1

Do you think this is true and that men feel inferior to woman who make more than them? I don't, but I guess some men might feel that way. They're just gonna have to work that out in some way or start dating someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:56 PM
1

There’s no downside to reading humanity’s greatest works of literature I'm literally unable to focus on any complex texts unless I've had my exercise quota met. And there are probably others that have the same problem. or visiting the national parks in one’s country To fully enjoy that you need to be somewhat fit since it would require a bit of hiking. Sometimes with heavy baggage such as tents, food supplies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:51 AM
2

It signals that he is genuinely invested in the girl and not just there for hookups. It signals that he's not a fuckboy and a gentleman with good intentions I signal that by being a good listener and making her understand that I'm genuinely interested in getting to know her, not by paying for her stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:28 PM
1

If it's just a hobby she could as well chose a less thirsty car. But I think we're getting away from the subject here... I wouldn't make a move on a girl that comes off as a consoomer, it's just that simple. Is there a chance that I might miss some great experiences because of that attitude? Sure, but I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:01 PM
1

There are some good reasons to own a thirsty truck, but for most people it's just a vanity thing. If she chose that truck just because of vanity she deserves to be blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:53 PM
1

Probably not. There are plenty of hot ladies out there so why should I go talk to one that gives off the wrong vibe?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:46 PM
1

I dislike overconsumption in general, for moral and environmental reasons. So I will of course be a bit more critical of a woman that engages in what I consider to be overconsumption than of a woman with a smaller environmental footprint.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:15 PM
1

Maybe start incentivising and emotionally supporting men the same way we support women. Instead of telling them to "man up". I think we should tell them to man up, but society should also help them man up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:31 PM
1

I'm glad you found a good man :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:09 PM
1

Maybe you're dating the wrong kind of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:24 PM
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They will increase the chances of passing on the genes that they share with their siblings: https://www.livescience.com/6106-gay-uncles-pass-genes.html According to the selfish gene theory it's only the genes that matters, not whose eggs or sperm pass them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:22 PM
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Nah... I'm very average and my girlfriends have been willing to change to some extent to make me happy and they're very attentive to my needs. So an average guy can definitely have the things you're describing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:09 PM
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That's a silly quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:02 PM
1

Mostly sexual submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:43 PM
1

It works pretty well. It might have been different if "a level of submission that I enjoy" entailed something like doing all the household work, or course. But it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:25 PM
1

Of course you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:44 PM
1

You believe that I do that, of course, but that's not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:33 PM
1

Well, I can't really control what you think about me, so why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:29 PM
1

Nope. But it's telling that you would assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:14 PM
1

The first thing that comes to mind is women with too much of a consumerist/materialist mindset. I despise that mindset in general and wouldn't date anyone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 03:19 PM
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How on earth can you require a woman who works, pays the bills and half the rent to be submissive to you. I don't require it, I just chose to be with women that willingly gives me a level of submission that I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 02:53 PM
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So the question is, can the average man have casual sex ? Yes. Source: am average, has had casual sex as per your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:25 AM
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Whatever your short and long term goals are in terms of dating and sex, how has it been insofar? It's been good, sex and dating have been the easiest thing in my life. Would you say that you are currently successful? Yes. What is your current strategy and is it working? I don't have a strategy per se, I just wing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:54 PM
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I think I can relate to poor and average people since I make very little money myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:34 PM
1

In my experience; being poor is fine as long as you're not a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 07:37 PM
6

Things can be wasteful even if they're economically feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 10:08 PM
3

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:18 PM
8

new outfit Do people really buy a new outfit for each date? That seems incredibly wasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:17 PM
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Definitely team Roommate here, I've never paid for both on a date and I never will. It's just a silly tradition that has no meaning in society as it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 07:12 PM
1

I'm bisexual but I wouldn't date a trans woman. Why? because I haven't really formed an opinion about that lifestyle yet, but I'm leaning towards considering it unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 08:22 PM
1

So with stuff like that in mind how many of you have a genuine friend of the opposite sex and is that friendship different in any way than your other platonic friendships and if so, how? I have at least one genuine friend of the opposite sex, it's not different from other friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:58 PM
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Many, many women reject me, so it's important to know why. I can't just walk across the street and immediately find another one. You'll find another. Not immediately of course, expecting that would just be childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:10 AM
2

Figured what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:12 PM
0

Resting bitch face-kind of ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:53 PM
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I have, and I've had crushes at other girls that people would consider unattractive as well. And it's not about settling; one of my first gfs were an easy 10/10 and many of the other girls I've been with either as gfs or fwbs have also been very attractive. Looks matter, but they're not all that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:42 AM
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As a european man I don't really think this is true. There might be some bias in your observations if you mostly visited large cities or certain parts of large cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:03 PM
1

This post isn't really about making a rational, deductive argument. It's more about preaching to the choir and trying to trigger some opponents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:31 PM
1

Sounds like a lot of work for a very small reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:49 PM
1

That guy should focus on doing something about his sickly appearance instead of complaining, that would make it possible for him to get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:55 AM
3

But once you’ve taken the black-pill it feels like there’s no point to any of that. Yes, believing in the black pill talk makes you believe that there's no point. But a lot of people that takes the black pill are people that would still benefit from making an effort to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:55 AM
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There's nothing shocking about it. But the whole it's-already-over attitude that it breeds is detrimental to most men that take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:17 AM
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I see no need to argue against that since I know from experience that women will also go for a decent average man. That some women likes to explore their kinks and fantasies by replying to a hot but horrible men is just an interesting curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:13 AM
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Think about the media, men generally enjoy seeing women sexualized in media, they don't particularly care about "smart" or "competent" women in movies, video games, magazines or whatever other form of media. Yet the push from feminism ensures that now women have to be more than just hot. Yeah, it's like there's nowhere one can see hot sexualised women these days....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:41 AM
0

Why the yuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:43 PM
0

But for the guys who believe both of these things, how does that work socially when you're out and about, going on dates, taking trips together, vacationing, even going to the bar etc? We go to places we both, or all three, can afford. Although both my gf's make more money than me, so I'm often the one setting the limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:38 PM
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But the solution is so simple; if you don't wanna get used for your money then simply let her pay for herself and her own stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:04 PM
1

I'm 40 and poor af, it doesn't really hold me back dating-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:45 PM
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Not really comparable. If you're being used for your money it's because you consent to being treated like that - there's no danger in just refusing to give up your money. If you're being robbed your force to give up your money - there's an actual threat of physical harm that's causing you to give up your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:41 PM
1

It's hard to chose the most attractive woman I've ever met. But the one's that come into mind when I think about who it might be ranges from late 20's to late 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:30 PM
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I would imagine that being sexless is way worse and I don't really see it as comparable to friendlessness. But that might be because I'm an introvert that has trouble establishing and maintaining friendships while sex seems to be kind of easy to get. So I don't really have an idea of what I'm missing out on with the whole friends thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:22 PM
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I'm kind of introverted and that means that dates, like all intense social interaction, will take a lot of energy from me. That being said; flirting is one of my favourite ways of interacting with people, so I rarely think of dating as something that requires effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:13 PM
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Nothing I can remember now, it was a few years ago that I read it. I just remember it as having a very preachy tone. It might be worth noting that I am polyamorous myself, so I should be positively predisposed to the book, but there was just something about it that rubbed me the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:48 AM
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I've read "Sex at dawn" and I didn't care much for it. Felt like he was trying to hard to push an agenda instead of just making the case that human sexual relationships have taken many different forms through the ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:22 PM
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I guess I would say I've been looking at these places as the subconscious or inner thoughts of people freed from polite society. Being freed from polite society isn't necessarily a good thing, and it's definitely not the same as seeing things clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:55 PM
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5, I don't mind looksmatching. My partners have been ranging from 3 to 10 in appearance and I liked them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:53 PM
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Radfem, Menslib, mgtow, fds, Those are all kind of extreme subs, why didn't you try just getting to know women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:44 PM
1

That's what unchecked materialism and consumerism creates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:35 AM
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Seems like things are a lot harder over there, at least judging from what I see on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:26 AM
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That's not really my experience, but I imagine that might differ between cultures. I'm guessing that you're american?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:22 AM
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Most men settle significantly out of desperation. That's sad, but also very much of a bad choice on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:17 AM
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Not all the women they want of course, but I assume that most of them are attracted to their wifes or girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:03 AM
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Women reward idiots with sexual access while decent men go without. Most of the decent men I know have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:48 AM
1

Some girls can pull it off, but most look better with their natural hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:17 AM
1

The 2% of men that really don't care how much money you make usually use their money to make up for some of their flaws and insecurities. I genuinely don't care. One of my girlfriends is a cleaning lady, the other one a PhD-student. And I don't have any money to spend to make up for any flaws and insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:24 PM
1

There are enough dicks getting wet to ensure the survival of our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:59 PM
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Love of nature, worry about the climate- and resource-crisis, similar attitude towards a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:43 PM
1

One of my closest friends is a woman, we talk about all kinds of things including sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:33 PM
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We do, to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:17 AM
1

I didn't say anything about punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:54 AM
1

Sure, but we're all responsible for what kind of culture and society we create.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:47 AM
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Yes, and that's how it's supposed to be. But just a little moderation on behalf of men would probably make things a little more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:04 AM
1

Exactly, you don't have to act on every urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:50 AM
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Not really, men have agency and can be in control of their own gas pedal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:47 AM
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Seems like there's a lot of positions between the alpha and the omega, positions that most people achieve and are happy with. And if you wanna improve yourself you can always strive to take one of a few steps up that ladder, since there are so many steps it's not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 08:00 PM
2

Do you feel that often?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:45 PM
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What I would like is less contempt and downright hostility towards average men. Most are living lives women couldn’t conceive of. I'm an average man and I have never felt contempt or hostility from women, you're misinterpreting peoples's reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:12 PM
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Perhaps the choice not to have kids reflects some level of impatience or lack of empathy. An unwillingness to self sacrifice. Low disgust tolerance. That might be true in some cases, but false in many cases. One would have to look at each specific case before making a judgement call like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:14 PM
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The vibe can be sexy if there's mutual attraction between you and your date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:48 AM
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Coffee dates are the best way of dating; it's the kind of date I always take girls on until we have established some kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:47 AM
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Had friday dinner and movie night with the girlfriends as usual. But I did bake a chocolate cake to make it a little extra special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 11:55 AM
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Essentially this means that beta-buxxing to get women is a largely fruitless endeavour. Yes, and that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:25 PM
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A combination of biology (testosterone levels and other stuff) and social conditioning (or rather lack of it). With "lack of it" I mean a lack of proper training in handling their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:23 PM
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I don't care as long as she supports herself (or is trying in earnest to find work).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:10 PM
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Ok, if that's true that might very well be the reason so many men are sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:12 PM
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Also, I don't think you understand how low is the average men social interest is, comparable to the average sexes or women. I do understand that, I'm an introvert myself. But I also know that social interaction can be very rewarding when one has the energy for that, I think many other introverts would benefit from that insight as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:41 PM
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Going for a pleasant coffe date might actually be time and energy well spent since it's relaxing and a nice break from everyday life. I usually walk so I don't have to spend any money on gasoline, and if I have time I'll make sure to make the walk pleasant as well. As for patience; the few times I've ended up on dates with people that tried my patience I've just cut the date short. And women also spend time, energy and patience on dates. Isn't that just how human interactions are in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:48 PM
1

What resources except money does one have to spend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:22 AM
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I disagree. You don't have to pay for drinks or dinner when dating. Careers, fitness and stuff like that are things that can and should be done for the benefits it brings directly to the person. The opportunity cost of going on dates are off-set by the relaxing effects of going out for coffee and the fun of flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:12 AM
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What I'm referring to however, is the average male who normally would have been able to have sex, but is now unable to, given the landscape of the modern day dating scene (online dating, unprecedented levels of communication, travel ability etc.) Average men is able to get sex, your whole premise is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:00 AM
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If porn is the male ideal of how sex should go, what is the female ideal? Porn isn't the male ideal of how sex should go. As for the female ideal; in my experience women seem to like sex where they feel chemistry and a connection to their partner, even when doing things like bdsm, threesomes and stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 07:48 AM
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I think that's something that only garbage people would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:31 PM
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Do you really need exclusively male spaces to be able to go your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:06 PM
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It's not exactly for an average man, but it's not really hard either. Average is good enough and if the guy put in some time and effort (although a lot of the effort can be the fun kind of effort) he'll be able to land a gf that he is genuinely attracted to or perhaps an fwb if thats more to his liking. Source: am average in all ways except income (way below average there) and somewhat succesful when it comes to stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:20 PM
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Perhaps, but I'm not a fan of socially enforced monogamy so that's a solution I'll never argue for or support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:49 PM
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Judging from your replies in the comments I'd say that your #2 guy has goal, just getting laid, that are shared by only a small fraction of men (men in the manosphere included). Most men doesn't come to the manosphere because they simply wanna get laid. They want love and intimacy or to be desired by women and those things include so much more than just getting to have sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:16 PM
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I like to dominate girls, sex gets better when there's a power difference involved and I mostly prefer to be the one in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:06 PM
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Peace of mind from not being bothered by sexual desires that he can't satisfy. And most of us will be forgotten very soon anyway, no matter if we have children or not. Isn't that kind of comforting in a way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:13 PM
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I'm taking SSRI's, it doesn't really affect my productivity in any way. Vigorous exercise does though. My wiev of other men is simply that I don't see a pattern were sexual satisfaction would explain the differences in productivity, at least not when I'm looking at the people I know enough about to make a guess about wether they're sexually satisfied or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:51 PM
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Chrome doesn't seem to thrust those webpages. Do you have the titles of the studies? Nah, my case is that I don't really see that sexless or men that gets an unsatisfying amount of sex are less productive. It's about those men being productive as well about me being unproductive. Never taken Ritalin, according to tests I have the symptoms of ADHD but not the neurology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:35 PM
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A man who lowers his sex drive gets nothing. No love, no sex, no family. They'd get peace of mind, that's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:53 PM
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Men have decreased happiness and productivity without sex. You can clearly see who is satisfied and who isn't by work. I find that hard to believe but are willing to change my mind if you produce some actual sources. I get a lot of sex but I'm also very much an underachiever, and I know some people that get laid a lot less than me that are very productive. That's why I doubt this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:51 PM
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You really, really want the last word in this, right? Despite not caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:10 PM
1

So why did you post that hypothetical if you agree that it's meaningless?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:35 PM
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I don't mind the implication, since it's so irrelevant to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:21 PM
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Ok, I prefer to draw my conclusions from actual experience rather than shitty hypotheticals. And it's quite obvious that you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:53 PM
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Ok, so you claim that most women would rather date a drug dealer than a sedentary loser? I believe that most women would rather date someone that is neither of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:05 PM
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I know a lot of guys who are into those things (except maybe woodworking, I only know a few guys who are into that). Most guys nowadays are sedentary losers who put women on pedestal. Being a sedentary loser is very unattractive and generally bad for that person as well, people should stop being that. I don't really see what point you´re trying to make? That women should be more open to dating sedentary losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 10:50 AM
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It's very telling that you chose to give the "ordinary nice guy" videogames as the only hobby. It would probably hurt your point if the ordinary guy had cars, martial arts, hunting, woodworking or some other common hobby instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:46 AM
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You don't have to work 50 hours a week, who tricked you into believing that? You did, didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:47 PM
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So why shouldn't the average man give up? What's the reward? Why should the average man give up? There's sex and romance to reap from putting in just a little work,work that often has other benefits as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:58 PM
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For average men; kind of like now, so kind of ok. For below average men; they'll be struggling as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:56 PM
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You're making dating way too complicated. And a lot of the things you mention are things that one does in ordinary social interactions as well, or for one's own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:03 AM
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There are other ways to be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:40 PM
2

How about being "interesting"? That way you can still be "not boring" without having to be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:38 PM
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Nope, you still need to struggle even if the gym is a somewhat safe place. And it's the struggle that's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:26 PM
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Why shouldn't guys be entitled to sex with hot girls if they're decent people? Why should they be entitled? Why does hot girls owe you anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:28 AM
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Yes, anyone can be creepy. I've been weirded out (and very close to creeped out) by an attractive girl and I have a very high tolerance for weird behaviour. That being said it's probably very uncommon for attractive people to be perceived as creepy. Partly due to the halo effect, as well as to the fact that attractive people get more chances to hone their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:55 PM
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I understand, can't really say that I've ever passed up sex for reasons like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:52 AM
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With steady partners; yes. With potential partners; I don't know, missed opportunities have probably been more related to morality or to my inability to see the signs of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:23 PM
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I like pleasing sensations of all kinds, that's why I have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:02 PM
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> Is it possible a majority of modern western women have maturity ceilings? Nope, most of the women I meet are very mature, so my anecdote cancel yours out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:50 PM
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No, what problems would they solve?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:51 PM
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Sounds boring, but to each his own and all that. I wish you luck in finding a woman that shares your view of what duties a woman has in society (and who sees you as her best choice to create a family unit with).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:37 PM
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So you want a woman to be with you because she feels that it's her duty rather than because she's attracted to you? You'd be satisfied with a boring relationship instead of a passionate one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:32 PM
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formal "education" aka leftist/feminist indoctrination. Does this also apply to education in the natural sciences, tech, math or medicine?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:34 PM
2

What things needs to be destroyed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:05 PM
1

No. I'd rather eat lead than conform to the whims of popular society. Why? What whims are you talking about that seems so horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:59 PM
1

Maybe you should treat this disorder, you seriously do not seem to follow the pattern of most healthy men. I'm treating it and it's somewhat under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:25 PM
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I meant by the time you had your depression, not before. If you dont have some nedorphins it becomes hard to have a recovery. It was always there, it just peaked during that particular time. Of course having a sex life is a good thing for mental health in general, but in my experience they're not as closely related as you make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:24 AM
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And let me tell ya, I am pretty suspicious that it took so long exactly because of sexlessness. I had a lot of sex before my depression peaked, I have a healthy sex life now and the depression is still lurking in the background (but it's mostly controled now). In TRP terms the human race had a only alpha fucks world until agriculture (and probably private property), then a full beta buck world until the 1800s and now we have an slowly world transitioning world from BB to AF. And maybe it will tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:11 AM
2

That sounds rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:01 AM
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Unless that shit was something that affect sex drive like insomnia, cancer or starvation, or you suffered something that was even more torturous than your sexlessness, like losing your family, I don't believe it was that 'easy'. Peak depression, so I still had a sex drive but not the chance to act on it. It is 11% sexlessness in 5 years and in 10 years in Brazil's equivalent research for the 18-35 bracket, I believe it was about the same for american and UK data too. Well, there's always been a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:51 AM
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Nah, I'm older. But I have been a man at that age bracket that suffered a long dry spell. Why it wasn't torturous for me? I had shit to deal with. It does up to 5 years. I'll check out those stats, I'd assume they'll approach some kind of naturally expected value at longer than 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:34 AM
2

77% of 18-34 year old men had sex in the last year If only you were a man you'd know how bad this statistic is(and it was mostly notable because the trend is sharply rising anyway) What's so bad about that statistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:20 AM
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A year isn't that long, if you have other shit to deal with that short of a dry spell will barely register. 2 or 3 years would be hard, but there seems to be no data on how many men go without sex that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:13 AM
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I mean we're all bloody equal right? Time to start handing out the financial > subsidies to remedy the inequity! Nah, a man receiving that welfare would probably still be selected against.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:08 AM
1

So a theme women here have in their responses is that men need to go out of their way for women in order to be considered attractive. You don't have to go out of your way to be attractive. Most of the work you need to do is enjoyable in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:24 PM
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Or with some luck and charm. Source: am average, has had several fwbs that were considered attractive by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:18 PM
1

I've dated plenty of women, just a few young ones though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:30 AM
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M=121 F=83 Gender=M Pill=Purple
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:39 PM
1

That's really depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:00 PM
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You should always treat a no as meaning no. If they're not mature enough to be straightforward about what they want they're not mature enough to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:58 PM
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Courtship often consists of some form of persuasion. No, not really. Courtship is about exploring how feelings develop between to people. It might be necessary to talk about stuff to assuage feelings of doubt and stuff like that, but that's more like making things clear rather than persuasion. Women generally play tons of games with "no." I have never ever had any reason to believe that a woman that said no was playing a game. Why would anyone act like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:51 PM
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Seems like you have a slightly weird culture when it comes to sex and dating. As a swede it all seems so foreign to me, here average is really sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:43 PM
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The whole “act like a thug” nonsense is in, at least in where I live Sounds sad, luckily there are always girls that doesn't buy into fads like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:49 PM
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Intelligent as well as pretty and not-fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:10 PM
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women demanded it after they got rights. Are you american? Because the dating woes that so many people describe here seems to be a very american phenomenon. I think it's more cultural issue than a problem stemming from women having rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:09 PM
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That sounds like a lot of work, I hope it pays off :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:04 PM
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Yeah, but do you really think it comes down to just looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:00 PM
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What kind of looks are necessary for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:58 PM
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Ok, but in a previous comment you said that you believed that the difference between you and low lives getting girls is that they have a masculine personality. Edit: I see now that the comment about personality was from another poster in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:54 PM
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So what steps have you taken so far in cultivating a masculine personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:44 PM
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Not really, it means accepting the fact that ultimately you don't have any power over anything but your own mind and coming to peace with that. You shouldn't feel bad about that fact, because that's an exercise in futility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:42 PM
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Stoicism is a good antidote to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:36 PM
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Then you have to figure out what that entails and then try to cultivate it. I had a rough childhood, maybe or maybe not as rough as yours, as well but managed to get to a point were I do kind of well with women. There's still hope for you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:35 PM
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What do you think he has that you're lacking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:28 PM
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Ok. And what's stopping you from getting a thin and pretty girl? Or, if you fail at that, to be happy anyways? You should focus on finding that out instead of feeling jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:28 PM
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But you specified that you wanted an intelligent girl as well, so you can't really blame your feelings on the low-lifes getting what you want but can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:24 PM
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it's seeing the serial killers and low lives clean up that makes me feel entitled. Have you seen many low lives with intelligent, not-fat and pretty girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:18 PM
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In today's social media world being hot is far more important than picking out the tab. Being hot or being interesting in some other way, and that's perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:54 PM
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Seems like we're very different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:50 PM
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All the dates I went out and my friends both male and females, never really spent more than 5 euros. That's how I do it as well and I live in north-western Europe. I think the guys that feel pressured to pay for dates here are the ones that are very old-fashioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:07 PM
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otherwise you have issues What kind of issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 02:13 PM
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You're inviting the girl, The key word here is inviting; it's a suggestion about a shared activity and if she for some reason doesn't have the means to pay for e.g. a cup of coffee she's free to suggest something else or turn down the suggestion completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 02:12 PM
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Older: me 38 her 54 Younger: me 37 her 21
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:17 PM
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For me it's based on my own experiences. I don't have much going for me when it comes to looks, but I'm still somewhat succesful with women, and I see other guys that are the same. And from that pov it's kind of easy to come to the conclusion that a lot can be achieved by simply being the right kind of person; having the right personality and behaviour. Looks matter of course, but they're not all that matters and they might often be more difficult to change than other things that also matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:57 AM
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As so many other have already said; it's about finding clothes and a haircut that suits you well. And it doesn't have to be either expensive or materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:10 PM
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I guess something like a week. Happens when I have a lot to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:51 PM
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Men : Do you have any personal rules or guidelines before you give a woman a girlfriend tag? Is there anything she must do to earn that? She has to defeat the previous girlfriend in combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:34 PM
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We just grew apart, simple as that. She didn't like the direction I was growing and I found her's a bit annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:48 PM
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What made her the least conventionally attractive; Kind of a coarse, androgynous face. Also the resting bitch face thing. ​ The qualities she had that made her interesting; She was smart and liked to use her intelligence which made it easy to connect with her. She would listen to things I said, ask good questions or point out flaws in my reasoning. She also enjoyed having a conversation about things she liked and to explain areas that she was knowledgeable in (mainly mathematics). She also share…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:37 PM
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he can't stay hard! ​ Did his fingers also fall off? Otherwise the solution is pretty obvious, right? He'll just have to learn how to use them, getting his gf aroused and getting aroused himself by her arousal until he can get hard again. Going to the gym might also help, in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:20 AM
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So? Nothing really. But if you do the bare minimum at something you're gonna have to accept losing out to the ones that does slightly more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:11 AM
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Definitely not. This sub is for people that have the intersection of gender relations, attraction and sexuality as a niche interest, it´s kind of inevitable that the discourse here will be different than the mainstream one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:53 AM
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I'd ask her if she's feeling unwell since she doesn't usually want my help with making a sandwich. If she has a reasonable reason for the request I'd get up and make her a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:07 AM
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I guess one could argue that, but I don't really see the problems so I don't see what's being patched over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:17 PM
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Nature is too slow to deal with the self-made problems of mankind. Nature doesn't need to deal with those "problems" they're easily solved by each individual in their own chosen ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 10:41 AM
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It shows a small but significant level of investment into the relationship, and can open up opportunities for the other person to get the next one. The investment thing is a good argument, but not good enough to make me change my mind. You pay for what you eat or drink and the other person pays for herself, there are better ways to show that you you're invested in the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 10:36 AM
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> What are the means of dealing with this and staying happy and healthy? Know what kind of behaviour you find acceptable, correct unwanted behaviour well enough that you don't have to do it repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 08:24 AM
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If it's true then I would assume that it is because there's been a return to a more traditonal way of seeing things, a more traditional script for life. This life script is more focused on building a life for one self through work (like in labour, self-improvement and so on) and a girlfriend/wife is thought of more as something that one picks up by the way, often as a result of being succesful in building a life for one self. And in this life script, as opposed to the one that was briefly popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:08 PM
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My dad think it's cool. My mum think it's wrong, but she has met both my girlfriends and like them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 11:04 AM
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I'm polyamorous and have met many poly people. I can honestly say that there are some very good looking people among them, also a lot of average looking people and then less attractive people as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 11:03 AM
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Isn't sex better with people you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:12 PM
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You don't need to have "bitches on speed dial", you just need to be patient and seize the opportunity when a new girl shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:04 PM
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Why do people even buy expensive wedding rings? It's such an irrational way to handle large sums of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 11:26 AM
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From my point of view it seems some women already do that, more will probably catch on later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:17 PM
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I'm polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 09:34 PM
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Nah, I'm very average looking and not very high status but I still manage to make women orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:43 PM
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No one is. But if you want good sex then you better be able to give good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:42 PM
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I have depression and anxiety and I'm pretty open about that. It might have had an effect on my dating and relationships but it's not totally detrimental; I have two girlfriends and our relationships are stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:59 PM
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How many guys here have found a girl that they click with on an ideological level? I've been somewhat ideologically compatible with all the women I've dated, but I have never really cared about their politics and it's never been a subject that I've discussed in depth with them. ​ I simply will not have a relationship with a woman who is unsupportive of my worldview, or who is trying to disenfranchise me or wreck my culture. That sounds like it might make for an interesting dynamic actually, prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:35 PM
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I do play the game, although I have decided not to breed. But I don't really feel that things like being rejected (I assume that was what you meant by wanting to be with someone and running into walls) is chaos in any way. Rejection is just a thing that happens sometimes. And the other things you call chaotic I haven't experienced at all, but I imagine they could be avoided if one were to get married and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:23 PM
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An elite at the top are reaping all the benefits. Every one else is plunged into chaos to fend for themselves. ​ I'm a bottom-dwelling loser and I haven't experienced any chaos whatsoever when looking to score at the sexual marketplace. What kind of chaos should I expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:15 PM
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One of them has an n-count of .... 3?... Maybe? The other one's is probably a bit higher but I assume it's nothing crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:54 PM
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He really only has two options..... Obey her will, or cheat. Three options actually, the third being to leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 12:22 AM
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The whole social construct thing still works if we switch it around; anyone that is considered a woman by his peers (in the case of Fox that would be other female UFC fighters) is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:56 AM
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It's more like this: "So um Sally, hey, wanna go get some coffee some day?" "Sure, when and where do you have in mind?" Going for dinner is more a thing I do with people I'm already in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:52 AM
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Karl Marx wasn't rich but had a lot of wisdom about the way economics worked. Economics is a very diverse field, so the principle that one should always ask the people that are succesful in a specific venture for advice about that venture still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 11:57 PM
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1.) Do you think men in women can ever be just friends? If not, why? What about if one, or both of you are in a happy relationship? Yes, they can. ​ 2.) Do you have female friends? If yes, what % of your regular friend group are females? I do, I'd say there between 25 and 50% of my friend group at any given time. ​ 3.) Do you hold your female friends to the same standards as you would a female you're romantically interested in? For example, if you don't like girls (romantically) with a high N co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:49 AM
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None of the girls I've been dating lately uses any birth control, we just used condoms instead. So it's fine that I don't pay for their coffee (I don't do dinner dates?)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:36 AM
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Nope, there's a diminishing return of happines to each notch in the bedpost as one's N-count rises and I feel like the return in happiness from just another notch is neglible now. That being said there are still some reasons to look for new partners, but the added happiness from that isn't mainly from the rising N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 09:34 PM
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There's not enough information to tell who's the better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 07:29 PM
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I work out, not mainly to look good but it's a very nice side-effect. I chose clothes in colors that I've been told, by people whose sense of style I trust, suits me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:32 AM
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Why is it important to have a chance with the great majority of women? Isn't it good enough to have a chance with a large enough group of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 07:26 AM
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John doesn't have to become someone else, he just have to do some minor changes to who he already is. Like he would do anyways unless he's a stagnant person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:09 PM
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I would bring snacks for the both of us of course. But not bottled water and preferably something homemade like cinnamon-rolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 07:10 PM
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That level of cheap and selfish is not frugal it's flawed. Not if you consume the refreshments in some beautiful outdoors place. A picnic is an awesome date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 04:58 PM
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I'm not saying the girls I'm dating are frugal, at least not all of them. I'm just saying that I'm a frugal guy that is doing kind of well when it comes to dating. But it might be a cultural thing, I'm swedish and the contempt for frugality seems to be more of an american thing. Also it's worth noticing that I'm frugal but not a pennypinching miser, which might make a lot of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:53 PM
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I'm a frugal guy, but I wouldn't use an app like that, because the ordinary ways to find dates works well enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:06 AM
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I'm happy with it. If an average looking, poor guy like me can get a lot of what they want it can't be too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 04:05 PM
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I see. But in my experience our individual needs are very much the same, physical pleasure and companionship, so things don't have to turn adversarial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 09:30 AM
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Dating puts the genders in a somewhat adversarial position. In what way? I've never felt adverserial to a person I've been dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 11:00 PM
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DO you have standards when it comes to a woman's income? And to what extent? Not really, as long as she's able to support herself. ​ Do you have any other standards that you stick to strongly? She has to have similar values and approach to life as I have. ​ Do you think the average male can afford having such standards? Yes, they're not unreasonable in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 06:16 PM
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It is a good strategy if the woman is looking for a man that are willing, and able, to take on the burden of being the sole or majority provider for the family. But the more likely outcome of this strategy is ending up forever single with a lot of pets that she refers to as her fur-babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:00 AM
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I'm poor and average but happy with that since not all women pass me over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 08:06 AM
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Who are these couples who go Dutch on the first date, and don’t bang for a few weeks? That sounds so boring I prefer to go Dutch on every date and bang on the second or third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 04:25 AM
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56% masculine, 44% feminine. I'm ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:42 PM
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So why are some people that have improved their social skills, body, and fashion to a reasonable level still unable to attract partners they like that like them? Might be just really bad luck, never being in the right place at the right time. Or maybe they still lack something that's needed to be attractive to a large enough amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 02:46 PM
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Male here. I like people that are civic minded teamplayers, but are also capable of critical and nuanced thought about social structures, laws, norms, authority etc. Do you prefer a partner who doesnt see law as an extention of morality and is comfortable breaking rules they dont agree with (victimless crimes/low risk situations only)? I don't know if I like them to be too comfortable about that, but I would prefer it if they're ready to do it if there are good enough reasons. Good enough reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:43 PM
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r/AskMen isn't strictly for dating advice. It's just how they jokingly describe their sub. What do you mean when you say "becoming a more masculine man"? It's kind of hard to answer before we're on the same page about what one would do to become more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:22 PM
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Not in real life, but I was very clear about looking for just a casual thing when I used Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 08:57 PM
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different than being a cam whore. If you just take it, yes. But if you post it it's very much the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 07:03 PM
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Why bother doing this with women? Because the people that are most affected by what's going on with my mental wellbeing are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 08:18 AM
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I disagree, it's important to communicate what's going on in one's life. But you should make sure to let people know that you're on top of any emotional issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 07:47 AM
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Can men open up to women without losing sexual attraction? Yes, but you have to do it in a manly way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:24 PM
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I don't care. They will probably not have any success. And if they do then I guess there's some kind of lesson in there for me, about moving on and not letting the things you can't control affect you and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 09:52 AM
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You won't have a problem finding a girl, you actually sound very much like a catch. I have a pretty "boring" life as well, and I'm poor and frugal, but dating has never been a problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 07:15 PM
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Depends on who's the more attractive one. Not that I would try to flirt, but if I'm gonna have to be squeezed against and facing a naked person I'd prefer it to be an attractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 07:48 PM
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However, I think that our culture (maybe even our biology) really doesn't promote a nuanced way of thinking in the first place, and so to cope, some men are going to need to play both ends of the field in order to average out at a normal, realistic range. Doesn't matter, anyone that isn't retarded is capable of nuanced thinking, and since nuanced thinking is better for one's mental health that's the right way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:32 PM
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For a man that's been indoctrinated hard into that mindset, there really isn't a way for him to develop more realistic attitude towards women without devaluing them in some way i.e. misogyny. There is actually, just think of them as ordinary people. An added bonus to this is that it will actually increase your chances of getting laid. See? The misogyny isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:29 PM
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I don't know it, and I haven't bothered to ask any partner during the last 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:29 PM
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It says something about the person if it's far below or above what's average, otherwise it's just a rather meaningless number. I don't even know the N-count of my girlfriends. Beacuse I haven't bothered to ask. And I haven't bothered to ask because they haven't given any indications that their sexual past is anything other than mundane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:06 PM
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Most women in this day and age doesn't have such a view of male nature, they expect a man to be able to just take no for an answer (and that's why they make a big deal out of men not being able to do that). With that in mind it's not a mystery why a woman would go home with a man without being 100% sure about her intentions; she might be on the fence about the whole sex thing but not ready to make the choice just yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 01:32 PM
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For a lot of men, depression looks like a lack of ambition or motivation, and the women in their lives should have enough empathy and awareness to see it for what it is, Depression is really, really hard to identify if you haven't experienced it yourself. You can't really expect anyone to see that you're depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:18 PM
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When it comes to relationships I really don't bother with scientific studies, I've learned what works for me and I feel confident that what have worked for me is applicable to other men whose circumstances are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:44 PM
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Why wouldn't it be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:35 AM
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Why so few? Most of the guys I know have girlfriends and I assume that at least a majority of them are also sexually satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:58 PM
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Why can't the dude have female friends and then also girlfriends, fwb's or whatever that keeps his balls drained and a healthy pink colour?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:54 PM
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That might be true if you're a man that's not getting his sexual needs met elsewhere, otherwise it's very possible to be friends with a girl that you want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:52 PM
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Because I'm less adventurous? Sure, I'm not adventurous at all and very happy with that. Because I'm less attractive? Nope. If a girl find someone more attractive than me (in total, attraction is a sum of different things after all) she should go after that dude instead and I wouldn't want her to stay with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 10:42 PM
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What happens if you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:05 PM
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Can you ever be truly vulnerable in a relationship? Sure, I'm very open about my insecurities in relationships and I also make sure to let my partners know when I'm tired and overworked. The trick is of course to also assure your partner that you're in control of yourself and not about to let your weaknesses affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:04 PM
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I'd dump that woman and get me one of higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:21 PM
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I get the part about having a better body at that age. But I'm more comfortable in my body now, so it kind of even things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:19 PM
1

What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:48 AM
4

why not just stop being so fucking nice?! Because being nice and civil feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:31 AM
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as a man, all you care about is (7) years of your life, 15-22. That’s it. That’s the best fucking you will ever have. Why? Because a girl is not into you because of your career, or because she’s thinking about what a great husband you would be, etc., she just finds you hot and wants to fuck. You can have that later in life as well, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:41 AM
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A man must be willing to accept women who are less successful, while women are allowed to demand men who are more successful. A man must be willing to accept women who are immoral, while women are allowed to demand men who meet the highest morals. Nope. No one makes those demands of men, but some men willingly lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 05:35 PM
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A person that is controling is often fueled by some form of anxiety and they are constantly on their guard against losing what control they have. A dominant person leads because it suits them and they often do their thing with less effort than the person that is merely controling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:53 PM
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Yeah, I think we agree on this :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 07:25 PM
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Nah, developing social skills and flirting is fun. No need to pay for sex when you can get it for free while also having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:59 PM
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1
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 03:54 PM
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The traditional womens roles offered fewer possibilities for personal growth than the one's that were available to men, that's why so much focus have been put on freeing women from those roles by opening up all the possibilities that men had for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:38 PM
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...blue pill hates materialism and hedonism Which side do you agree with? I despise excessive materialism but like hedonism of the more epicurean kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:45 PM
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They're both ltr material.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:48 PM
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It's not a big thing, and to be honest I haven't even known the N-count of the last couple of women I've been with. I'm not even sure about the n-count of my two current girlfriends although I know that it's in the lower range. It's a metric among others (things like hours worked per week, hours spent exercising etc) and if it's above or below some number it might indicate something that I need to probe a little more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:38 AM
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I understand. I guess the permanently single people weren't as visible back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 07:38 PM
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Why do you expect to have that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:11 AM
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A woman who really understands me and cares about my happiness fucks me. So you'd be fine with just a pity fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:09 AM
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help out a little bit. What kind of help do they want/need? A non-professional is rarely in a position to help someone that is absolutely broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:06 AM
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Why would you not just ignore it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:09 AM
1

That might be true, haven't really noticed anyone being pissed or wired in my gym but it sounds like it might be a good pointer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:55 PM
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Exactly, that and that physical activity in itself has a very calming effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:46 PM
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I might stop going to the gym if and when I decide that other forms of exercise suits me better than lifting weights. And I might stop working out when I can do that without turning into a high-strung, anxiety-riddled mess, but that will probably never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:37 PM
1

Some women care about money, others doesn't. So more money will make you more attractive to a certain group of women and have no effect on your attractiveness to the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:46 PM
0

Then don't date her, why would you want to be with a person like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:09 AM
3

How should men watch out or defend themselves against this type of behavior? Don't go for dinner at the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 07:40 PM
1

I'd say it depends on where she posts them. I find posting sexy content to instagram a bit trashy but wouldn't have a problem with a girl that posted to places like gonewild or other nsfw subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 05:33 AM
1

Don't go for dinner. Go for coffee, pay for your order at the check-out, let her pay for hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:02 PM
2

Feeling harassed seems very unlikely, but it has happened once that a girl (an attractive one) made me slightly uncomfortable with her attention. But it might also be worth noting that we were both young and I have a hard time believing that a more experienced girl could be that not-very-smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:01 PM
1

Basically, I live on limited means, so a prospective gf would have to live on limited means as well, but is there any universe where this would happen? ​ Yes, this universe. I'm poor but have two girlfriends. Limited means is no problem as long as you do the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:29 AM
2

I see women as regular people that are wired slightly different then me and other men due to biology and socialisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 09:49 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with being and showing yourself vulnerable as long as you don't come off as needy and/or weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:02 AM
1

No, I'm not a night club person :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:09 PM
4

I've never met a woman like that, where the fuck do people act like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:45 AM
3

Isn't it more fun to just have sex without the silly games?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:43 AM
3

Yeah I get that, but it's simply not my cup of tea. I'm not saying that I would never date a person that had some procedures done either. But in this particular case there wasn't really much, from my pov, to set the women apart from each other and so the cosmetic procedures tipped the scales in favor of the CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:14 PM
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I was gonna say the nurse, but the cosmetic procedures thing made me chose the CEO instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:06 PM
1

Learn to appreciate the small pleasures that comes with flirting. Talking to an attractive woman and having her engaged in the conversation, making her smile and so on is a pleasure all on it's own. ​ Flirting, like many other things in life, is an activity were the journey can be just as enjoyable as the ultimate goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:06 PM
1

Ah, haven't done much of that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:47 PM
3

I’m stupid high iq which makes talking to most people tough, I’ve heard it all, honestly. So don't focus on the talking, do stuff instead. Go hiking, cook together and stuff like that. I’m unattractive which just makes it hard to talk to women in volume, they won’t want to. Get fit or something else that improves your attractiveness. The odds of finding an equally intelligent woman is low as fuck. Maybe, but there are smart women out there. I've dated several (two mensa members, one mathematicia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:01 PM
1

Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:52 PM
1

I'm not great at flirting but I enjoy it anyways, things that you're not good at can still be fun if you approach it with a relaxed mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:47 PM
3

It's not fun to be the interviewee in a job interview. Of course you won't enjoy flirting if you think of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:41 PM
2

Seems you just meet the wrong kind of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:36 PM
1

I think that problem might exist for sexually frustrated men, but except for that I can't see why it would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 03:59 AM
1

Yes, they can. Why would they not be able to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:05 PM
4

If you do it because you hope to get rewarded with sex you're a "beta" and pathetic. ​ If you do it because you feel like that's what a decent person would do in that situation you're a perfectly normal, well-functioning human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:03 PM
1

As a fellow introvert; try meeting people through your circle of friends or different activities, in my experience that is better for us introverts than bars and nightclubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:09 AM
2

If she's fine with you having side chicks, then go for it. If not you'll have to either leave her, refrain from having side chicks or being a dishonest cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:39 PM
1

I enjoy dating, it's a fun pastime. I like the anticipation, I like the whole getting to know a new and interesting person, I like the flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:37 PM
1

Because people will rather stay poor than do work that is considered beneath them. ​ The lack of male prostitutes is one proof, another is how hard it is to keep the caring sector here in sweden properly staffed even in times or places where unemployment is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 06:57 AM
1

Yeah, I know. I'm struggling with depression myself. One thing I've learn't is that it's a really bad idea to succumb to that warped reality one creates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 06:19 PM
1

But from my PoV it's obvious that they draw the wrong conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 06:00 PM
1

Yes it is, and I understand why they come to the the conclusions they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:49 PM
1

Sure, having had a threesome (MFF or MMF), wouldn't affect the way I see a potential partner one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:47 PM
1

What would you accept as proof that you're wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:42 PM
3

It's a claim made by men that are bad at sex; since they can't arouse women they come to believe that women doesn't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:03 AM
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No, that's a kind of person that I don't wanna spend any time with at all. Wich political camp they belong to wouldn't matter either, both kinds are insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 04:11 PM
6

Assume that a man is low status and he can't do anything to raise it - what are his options in the dating market? ​ If he can do absolutely nothing about it? Then there are no options except lowering one's standard. But I believe it's very rare for someone to be in a position were they have absolutely no ways of raising their status, so my advice would be to just keep struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:27 PM
1

If those are the only two options; definitely "fucker of women".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:46 AM
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You should tell her about your struggle. But also let her know you're aware that you're the only one that can fix your problem and you won't expect her to fix you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:30 AM
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> consequence free sex ​ It's not consequence free if you have to take time off to do the abortion, maybe pay a fee etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 05:52 PM
2

I'm the most average man in my circle so I'm gonna assume that my experiences are valid for this discussion. I'm a little bit shorter than the average man described by op and I make a lot less. Also I'm swedish so the cultural context might differ a lot. ​ How hard is it for the average man to get a date from the average (and/or above average, or attractive) woman? ​ Somewhat hard, it takes some time to find someone that has a compatible personality. ​ Typically how many rejections would the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 07:31 PM
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Yeah, but one grounded in experience. Some things can only or mostly be learned from experience. So what Kant had to say about women isn't interesting to me since I have more experience than he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 09:18 AM
2

Are any of these statements true in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:52 AM
1

I take showers after strenous activities. I shave when I get tired of my beard, cut my hair once a year or every other year. ​ I like to stay fit, mostly for physical and mental health but looking better is a big part of my motivation as well. ​ I know what clothes looks good on me and buy new ones when the old ones are to used up or whne I fall behind with mending and patching.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:45 AM
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> "Women will avoid the wicked not because it is unright but because it is ugly; and virtuous actions mean to them such as are morally beautiful" ​ This could be said about me as well, truth is beauty and beauty is truth and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:39 AM
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what are these types of women? that sounds like a sweeping generslisation You'll have to go out in the world and learn that from your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:38 AM
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Because his generalizations are too sweeping and totally miss any possible mark. He doesn't take into account the fact that women are just as variable as men, making any general statement about those group a heuristic at best (and using Kant's statements as heuristics will be very unhelpful) And it's not surprising that he didn't know much about the different types of women; he had very little actual experience of interacting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:24 AM
4

Why did you explicitly chose to cite Kant? Why not just make up your own quotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:10 AM
3

I don't consider anyone above me just because they're an authority on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:09 AM
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I don't agree with any of those generalisations. ​ And only a fool would take Kant as an authority on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:25 AM
1

Either we get more productive citizens or they get purged through starvation. Or a socialist revolution, wich is the very thing the welfare state was protected to ward off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:50 PM
5

Women don't like or want sex What kind of weird women do you hang out with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:09 PM
3

Different strokes I guess :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:59 AM
2

Ok, I'd still recommend first learning how to pick up a girl, then practice fucking with her. But I get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:57 AM
1

All the women on reddit are nerds. So that's why I like reddit women!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:55 AM
6

I CAN'T affect how physically attractive I am to other women Of course you can; exercise and mind your posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:54 AM
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> fellas if you wanna practice fucking, whores are great. ​ Are they really? Do they give honest feedback?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 03:48 AM
2

Nah, hugging anyone the first time is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 11:06 PM
5

I wouldn't hug a woman I meet for the first time either, that's rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:08 PM
2

Sexist? No. But it does seem weird to refrain from hugging other men for fear of seeming gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:30 PM
3

I have and I would, if they had other qualities that made up for what they lack in looks. Looks matter, but they're not everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 07:32 PM
1

I offer none of those things. Except chores, but we split them kind of equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:53 PM
2

Companionship, intimacy and easy access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:51 PM
1

She's attracted to a few things: none of them are him. What are those things? I really need to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:49 PM
1

Neither do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:59 PM
1

There are many different types of good character/personality and not every kind of good character/personality is attractive to every person. A woman not being attracted to you isn't equal to her denying your value as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:55 PM
3

Unless you have your romantic and sexual needs already met, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to be friends with a woman despite being attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:37 PM
1

If women (in the general sense) make a choice to insult, either directly or indirectly, a significant portion of the opposite gender, they should accept the consequences of that choice. What kind of insecurity and warped mind does it take to perceive romantic or sexual rejection as an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:59 AM
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That's where aging really hits you and if you want to be young and hot you have to work REALLY hard for it. I think most women prefer to be well aged and hot in that age, clinging to one's youth isn't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:33 AM
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Number 3 is good, but you don't have to be a bad boy to achieve that. Just thought that might be worth pointing out :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:30 AM
1

And if the bottleneck for most straight men's pleasure is prostitution being illegal, why aren't you more angry at anti-prostitution politicians? ​ It's not a bottleneck for me, so I see no point in getting riled up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:43 PM
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I have some experience of being on both sides. ​ My longest relationship so far was with a girl that I met while she was doing her PhD in mathematics, when we met I had no university studies and wasn't even eligeble to apply for them. I got eligeble for higher education and took some courses during the course of our relationship but was still way behind her in academic achievements. ​ Did it bother me? It did during the early years of our relationship, I was deep in depression and had nothing go…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:15 PM
1

Introverted men have less sexual partners than extroverted ones. ​ I'm an introvert and I've had more sexual partners than the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:13 AM
1

Why would someone want to date/LTR you or just have sex with you? ​ I have no idea, but it seems some people do want to do those things with me so I must have something going for me. But to be honest I don't think it's that easy to put into words what makes someone attractive. ​ General looks 39, average looking, a bit more fit than the average in my demographic. ​ Education/Work/Income ​ Temp work in different forms of assisted living, occasional jobs as a biologist. Kind of poor. ​ Hobbies/Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 08:22 PM
3

Where does op suggest being an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:14 AM
2

What in op's post suggest treating women poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:13 AM
3

Many men do what op suggests and are enjoying the company of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:11 AM
1

and many others can't shake the insecurity that they wouldn't without it. They'll never know if they don't even give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:00 AM
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You have to have the SMV to pull this off or you'll just end up a laughingstock like MGTOWs. Yes, but that level of SMV is possible to achieve if you're average from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:58 AM
1

> Stop paying for everything all the time: Dinner, drinks, movies, concert tickets, vacations, Ubers etc. Heck, even let them pay for you for a change. ​ This is how I do dating and relationships. I'm to poor to pay for anyone but me. ​ > Stop rewarding them financially for sexual profiteering: Sugar babies, insta models, cam girls, strippers, hot servers etc... with maybe the exception of a straight 1-1 exchange of money for sex in the case of incels or those who have no other options). ​ I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:55 AM
1

Art elicits pleasant reactions inside from simply viewing it. As does a great body/face. Hence why we pay money to look at it more. But you don't have to pay with money to look more on a lot of beautiful faces and bodies, just reddit alone is brimming with them. So why pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:51 AM
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Many men do kind of what OP suggests and are doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:32 AM
1

I assumed we were talking about OP's suggestion that people should stop paying hot girls for showing themselves of on social media, cam etc. I agree with not rewarding stuff like that with money, although I do think they deserve som appreciation such as likes or upvotes (in the case of social media).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:30 AM
1

Yes, but likes or upvotes is a much better reward than money. For all people included in the transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:25 AM
1

> Now if one were to say "I accept that it could happen, and I'm ok with that", that's one thing. ​ This is my approach to shitty things in general. One can take measures to avoid shit happening, but they are never 100% effective - so why dwell on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:51 AM
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> It doesn't require effort. ​ I can never understand why so many people complain about effort when it comes to stuff like that. Nothing worth having comes cheaply but some kinds of effort can be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:38 AM
2

No need to justify it. If you want a somewhat traditional feminine girl you can still find it, there's something for everyone these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:57 PM
2

I've never met an otherkin, what kind of people are you hanging out with? And dating has always been about options, it's just that they're a bit differently distributed now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:43 PM
0

Is that really the only option available to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 07:57 PM
1

Sure, that's why average-looking men are struggling to find a single date nowadays That's below average-looking men. Average men are doing just fine, at least from what I'm seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 07:55 PM
1

Yes, but that self-cultivation was done for a lot of reasons, becoming more attractive was only one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:40 PM
1

That might be true, but I still believe that if I can be a Chad a lot of guys can become that as well. I'm average looking enough that anything that sets me apart from other guys are things I've cultivated, not anything I was born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:41 AM
1

Well, at least I have that going for me then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:32 AM
1

I just assumed that as a Chad I would be spending this time trying to figure out wich party to go tonight or something like that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:24 AM
1

Ok, going back to my Chadly day then. Doing Chadly stuff like repotting plants and going to a reading circle :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:16 AM
1

Ok, I guess I should be fair and remind my girlfriends (going on 6 and 1 year) that they should be repulsed by me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:06 AM
1

As I said; it has worked out fine for me. And I'm as far from being this mythical Chad as anyone can be. It's probably more about moving in less materialistic and status-obsessed circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:01 AM
1

Ok, a few cups of coffee then. I've never had a dinner date or something similar and have done pretty well anyways. But that might just be due to cultural/social factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:55 AM
1

Ok, maybe the cost of a cup of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:53 AM
1

What you've got isn't worth the time and money you think it takes to get it Time is enough, you don't need to put any money into dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:18 AM
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Unless you live with your parents. And are really really scared of catching and STD or an unplanned pregnancy because the medical bills would totally fuck you up. And are depressed because you're broke and unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:11 AM
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I could see myself in a ltr with a woman like that. The only condition would be that she'd have to be willing to live a very frugal lifestyle since I will never be able to bring in a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:02 AM
0

I have two girlfriends and I don't know how many previous partners they've had, I just haven't felt like that's something important to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:31 AM
1

Both are fine for me, personality and chemistry is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 07:57 PM
1

How's that relevant for this discussion? Failure in flirting doesn't cost that much that a safety net is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 08:00 PM
1

ALL of "toxic masculinity" comes from men doing what it takes to qualify as desirable in women's eyes. From men doing what they think it takes to qualify. Or failing to embody non-toxic masculinity and then going for the second best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:01 PM
1

Emotions can lead to bad decisions, anti-survival decisions, Anti-survival decisions aren't necessarily bad though, at least not according to my understanding of the stoic Epictetus. Or according to Socrates if Plato is to be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:56 PM
2

Will girls flock to you? Probably not, unless you're really hot or cute. Will it make more girls interested in you? Yes it will, because focus and determination are attractive qualities and they shine through in one's general demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:32 PM
1

They don't "need" to have justification. But thinking critically about their feelings, like misogyny, might increase their chances of having good experiences with women and that might improve their wellbeing in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:00 PM
1

What justifies it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 06:54 PM
1

There are not many women out there that everyone can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:58 AM
1

..what makes a man attractive is true unadulterated masculinity and hardness.. Cultivating hardness is an act that can be chosen, just like the act of getting fit or getting a new haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 01:12 PM
1

Not really, I can't remember the last time I asked about or were told the exact number of previous partners that a girl I was dating had. All I know about my girlfriends is that they're in the low- to average range of past sexual partners. I would consider it just another metric (like hours worked per week, books read last year etc) were there's a large range that doesn't really say much about a person although being on some extreme might be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:19 AM
1

Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What made you draw that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:24 PM
5

I see no reason at all to listen to Kant when it comes to the nature of women, or human nature in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:56 AM
1

I'm a guy and I like to keep things very simple when it comes to food. And many of the people I know that put more effort into their food are women, but there are some men that does that as well and I wouldn't really say that it's a strongly gendered pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:27 PM
1

Sure there are alot of pussies to stick your dick in but the number of women you like and enjoy spending time with is far fewer. Not really, the women I'd like to stick my dick in is a subset of the group I like and enjoy spending time with and that group is pretty large. You can't have abundance mentality if you believe that good women are a rare thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 09:19 PM
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Most genuinely nice guys get relationships or action.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:44 PM
1

1) Somewhere around 20 I guess. Does blowjobs count or are we just talking penetration sex? 2) 16 if I remember correctly. 3) In an open relationship with two girlfriends. 4) Nope. 5) Purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 04:08 AM
1

I'm gonna assume that a girl that says no means no, I have no interest in silly games.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:02 PM
1

I'm decent looking, neither good nor bad. My own experience (with my own pictures) was that a profile without a job got a lot more matches than a profile with "programmer" or "software engineer" written down as a job. That's very sad, caring about the status of a job just seems very shallow. I hope you find someone that doesn't care about petty things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:37 PM
1

I won't be able to change it. I have only my experience to go by and so far being nerdy and working in non-material job hasn't really stopped me from meeting women. This leads me to believe that the tendency you describe is more pronounced in some environments and less in others. Of course I might have been even more succesful if I was less nerdy and had a more masculine job, but doing well is good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:27 PM
1

Ok, I understand your point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:15 PM
1

Why do women hate jobs where people have to work with software?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:05 PM
1

how much compliance is too much compliance? It's bad to comply when it puts you in a situation of having to do stuff you really don't feel like doing. When is it bad and when is it acceptable? I already explained when it's bad. It's acceptable or even a good thing if she suggests something that is actually good or if you don't really have a preference about the choice being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:08 AM
1

I say it because it's the truth. I prefer girl without make-up, jewelry, high heels etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:36 AM
2

Guys that don't pay for the dates, especially the first couple, are looked at as cheapskates or losers, and rarely get additional dates. Every woman I have ever spoken to confirms this. I never pay for dates, and I've had plenty of dates that have lead to more dates or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:42 PM
2

I pay for my stuff, she pays for yours. Never even bothered with what signals that might send. But if I were to frame it in terms of sending signals I guess it could be said to signal confidence ("My company is pleasant enough that you'll be more than happy to pay for your own stuff when hanging out with me").
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:40 PM
1

I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 08:39 PM
3

TRP philosophy suggests ... I don't really believe those things, but if I did I would approach LTR's kind of the same as I do now; as something that might very well come to an end, like all things in life, and thus as something that I should be able to lose without it causing me too much distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 12:27 PM
2

They (girlfriends) can have sex with other people as long as I get my needs filled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:53 PM
1

I studied biology but didn't finish my masters thesis. Now I do occassional jobs as a biologist but get most of my income from working as a caretaker wich is considered a low-status job. I'm doing fine with dating, maybe I would be doing even better with a fancier job but I have nothing to complain about as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:54 AM
1

I don't know, I'm very leftwing but purple rather than blue pill so I guess I don't follow that pattern exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 08:26 PM
1

Disagree, basing my disagreement on my own experience. But I do believe that it's good to have your life somewhat together if you wanna date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:32 AM
1

Male. Dealbreakers: Negative outlook on life. Materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 10:03 PM
1

Maybe, but I feel like they give back more. And your first point was about getting laid, and I still think a man doesn't have to give up much to get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:57 PM
2

Life is an uncertain anyways, so it doesn't really make me feel any different about the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:09 PM
3

Maybe they're not serious then, so I better enjoy it while it lasts :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:02 PM
2

They've mostly been making more money than me, no minorities. It might be the case that I'm slightly above average, but certainly not good looking enough to be able to get by on just my looks. There are other things than looks and economy that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 02:01 PM
2

That's why I believe it differs a lot between different social and geographical environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:54 PM
3

I'm dirt poor and average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:49 PM
1

I guess I'm lucky then that my girls wanted to hear exactly what I tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:47 PM
0

So what exactly does one have to tell a woman to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:42 PM
1

Women already caused it, with their rapidly inflating expectations and their rapidly lowering return in value for meeting those expectations. I think this is a very local problem. In most environments women have reasonable expectations and give a lot back in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:22 PM
0

Because men who do learn to care more about themselves will check out and stop contributing to anything but their own self-actualization - which doesn't have anything to do with upholding civilization. Not necessarily. A lot of research shows and a lot of philosohers knew that the best life is the one lived as part of something bigger than one self. Many men that approach the issue of self-actualization with an open mind will realise this and find ways to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:20 PM
1

Ok, just wanted to check that you're not one of those crazy people that glorify working to hard. Because that would have made you a hypocrite in this case. Happy to see that you're consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 12:04 AM
1

If they use government benefits or increase insurance premiums, then it is my business. CMV Do you feel the same about people that let their working habits have a negative effect on their sleeping habits?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 11:07 PM
2

My girlfriends are, so it seems I'm able to find those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 03:29 PM
1

she will want a nicer place with higher rent and more bills than you would have otherwise No, I would never be in a relationship with someone that can't be satisfied with a very simple life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:22 AM
2

No, there's no need to spend money on a woman. Dating can be done with each part paying their share and so can living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:18 AM
3

Yes, even if one of them have some light sexual feelings. If you're somewhat mature and sexually satisfied in general feeling like that are easy to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:27 PM
1

If a man expects a woman to “pull her weight” or pay for half the bills, then he can’t say “I don’t care how much money my wife makes” I can kind of say that. I lead such a simple life that any woman with a job could pull her weight if she choses to share my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:45 PM
1

Online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:00 AM
14

Feminism has made women behave in undesirable ways and so your average young guy looks at a 300 pound blue haired monster who endlessly screams about how all men are scum, I meet a lot of feminists in my daily life and what you're describing is very very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 03:22 PM
1

So if you're looking for someone to go hiking with or whatever it's going to be a guy or a girl you're interested in My most frequent hiking partner is a female friend that I'm not sexually or romantically interested in (although she is hot).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 12:58 PM
1

Or maybe people have simple gotten less good at basic human interaction, causing us to grow estranged from each other and making it harder to form relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 07:41 AM
2

But to find a partner for something as basic as casual sex should not require advanced knowledge. It doesn't require advanced knowledge, but you have to have a minimum of social skills to get it and that's a good thing since it encourages people to develop those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:34 PM
4

I see, but I still think you should skip the "I think you're really cute" or at least change that to "I think you're a very interesting person..." or "I really enjoy your company...." Starting with the fact that you think she's cute might come off as superficial and she will probably not take it as much of a compliment either (most cute girls know that they're cute already and get to hear it a lot).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:46 PM
1

This is a joke, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:38 PM
4

Skip the part about her being cute and just ask her out for coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:31 PM
1

173 cm tall, 85 kg with more muscle than fat. Long red hair, sometimes a beard. Average male face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:41 AM
1

That's so bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 09:45 PM
2

Looking back the last 10 years I've dated a mathematician, a language consultant, a cleaner, a PhD-student in literature, a kindergarten teacher, a literary science student, an administrator and a girl that is just about to finish her Masters in physics. Still in a poly relationship with the cleaner and the physics student. All of them, except the literature student, had a higher income or better economy through savings than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 10:02 AM
1

Harder, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:05 PM
1

Easier or harder compared to when and where?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:27 PM
1

Nah, the swedish dating market is really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 07:06 PM
1

All of this has contributed to the fact that only 5% of all people dating are actually succeeding and the other 95% of all people dating are left with bitterness and excruciating frustration. Got a source for that statistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 08:56 AM
1

But being betabux is also a self-inflicted damage. Just refuse to be with women that won't carry their part of the everyday burdens and you won't end up as betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:46 AM
1

Why would they care enough to try to fool me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:05 PM
2

What reasons would I have to think they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:48 PM
2

Yeah, maybe they were all faking it, but I have no reason to think they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:35 PM
2

I only do coffee dates and I mostly pay for just me, and that's actually the social norm here so I don't have to worry. If I would insist on paying for us both I would probably come off as very old fashioned and I imagine that's the case even if the date takes place in a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:34 PM
1

Some anecdotal evidence; most (like in <90%) I've had sex with has been able to orgasm. A few of those that couldn't said they had trouble cumming with partners but could do it on their own. So yes; women in general are capable of having orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:27 PM
0

Nah, I liked it despite being a swedish communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 08:17 PM
2

I've had a relationship with and at least one crush on girls that were below average in physical attractiveness. I didn't find them ugly because to me their other qualities made up for what they lacked in looks, but I guess I can say that I have dated or wanted to date ugly girls if one uses some kind of common standard for rating attractiveness. Would I do it again? Probably if the right girl showed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 07:14 AM
1

That's a lot of grooming!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:50 PM
1

I only do coffee dates, although I might make her dinner or let her make me dinner once we've established a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:41 PM
2

This isn’t about morality, I genuinely want to know. Because different people have different qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:50 PM
1

The one on the left looks like she'd be the most fun in bed so if I wanted casual sex I'd go for her. I'd chose the one on the right for just conversation, flirty or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:44 AM
1

[Q4Men] How long does it take the average man (you and your friends) to find a gf? I don't know. Two years? [Q4 Men & Women] What's the longest dry spell you have had? Were you unhappy about it? A little longer than a year but it could probably have been shorter if I had been better att picking up and acting on indications of interest. I was unhappy, but more like deeply depressed and the lack of sex was actually one of the things that bothered me the least. [Q4 Men & Women] Have you ever ended …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 10:21 AM
1

Ok, that sounds dystopic. Must be terrible to live where ever that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 04:02 AM
1

What's dystopic about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 03:37 AM
3

Of course it's worth it! There's a lot of great experiences to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:45 PM
1

Absentmindedly picking up heavy objects isn't a hobby and it doesn't make you interesting. You can't really do it absentmindedly though, you have to work on your technique, and pay attention all through the lift wich makes lifting weights kind of meditative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 05:37 AM
1

Är det nånsin enkelt att dejta? Jag tycker iallafall att svårighetsgraden är rätt lagom, det är liksom en utmaning men en rolig utmaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 03:21 PM
2

Can't really tell if that's sarcastic or not :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:39 PM
1

Yeah, women can afford to buy their own coffee :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:28 PM
1

What traditions and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:19 PM
1

I actually think that's the most common form of dating here in sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:16 PM
1

Two people having coffee and getting to know each other have worked very well for me, so I guess that's my ideal date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:10 PM
2

Trying to be the best person I can be, although that's for both sexes. Don't know if there's anything in particular I do for people I might wanna sleep with, except I'm a little flirty towards them when I'm in the mood. It seems to please at least some so I guess that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 07:48 AM
1

I only invite people that I like and know that I wanna spend time with for dinner. But inviting someone to a date is taking a risk of having a boring time so I don't wanna risk spending both my money and my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 07:29 AM
1

Depends on the level of awkwardness, I'm slightly awkward but doesn't have much of a problem getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 03:52 PM
1

who is doing the inviting should pay the bills. so if a man invites her on a date he should pay. and vice versa. Why? She made the choice to accept my invitation, probably because she expects it to be a good time. She can pay for whatever she wanna eat or drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 03:46 PM
1

So you're fine with paying on dates even if the woman makes as much money as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 03:43 PM
5

Why the recurring argument? Sounds boring and unneccesary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:04 PM
2

I remember that the issue of sexual experience and number of previous partners used to come up quite often when I was young. But I can't remember the last time it came up, it must be a long time ago, and nowadays I would probably just consider it a very uninteresting subject to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 08:17 PM
2

I agree, it's the specifics of the situation that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 02:13 PM
1

Is it cucking by default if the woman have more sexual partners than the man? Am I getting cucked if I have two other partner/fwbs and my gf has three?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 06:28 AM
1

What if it's the man that asks for an open relationship/marriage? Is it still over?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 06:24 AM
2

Most men don’t seem open to an open relationship where she can fuck other men. That seems pretty consistent. Most of the men I know that have open relationships, including myself, are fine with their woman fucking other men. It might just be a cultural thing or differ between different social spheres. But I have heard people mention having their partner wanting an open relationship solely on their terms every now and then, so I'm not saying douchebags like that doesn't exist. Just wanted to poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 06:19 AM
1

Speaking as a polyamorous person; I hope that poly relationships will be considered as just another way of having relations in the future, on equal footing with monogamy and other lifestyle choices concerning relationships. I also really hope that it turns into some kind of political movement; it's in no way comparable to other sex- and relationsship issues that have been the basis for political movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:32 PM
1

Look, woman needs validation. She is getting it from most physically attractive male she is able to obtain. If this man gives her validation (and most intimite form of validation is sex) she is grateful to him. That's why most Chads receive a lot of anal and oral sex while steady boyfriends get boring missionary actions. But men crave validation as well. So men doesn't enjoy sex either? Yes. Women's nature. It's not that different from male nature. And most of what people "know" about male and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:57 AM
1

So you don't trust your ability to read people? And are there any reasonable reasons for them to fake enjoyment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 06:35 AM
1

And you have never gotten the impression that the women you had sex with enjoyed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 06:27 AM
2

Two questions: Do you consider yourself good at reading people? Have you ever had sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 07:15 PM
0

Not any more, that tendency was crushed by a stronger political movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:06 AM
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So someone else—also an armchair observer like me—said to me, if there is “no right to sex”, then there also cannot be tax-funded birth control. If sex is an optional activity, then birth control is an optional purchase. If you want to go skiing, then you pay for your own skis. There's one big difference; there was once a political movement, in countries were birth control is free or subsidized, that was strong enough to make birth control freely or cheaply awailable - a right if you will. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 04:59 AM
3

That's true, but most pain isn't really anything to be bothered by. And a little pain makes one appreciate the good things in life more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:31 PM
1

I don't think any healthy man thinks like that about rejection. There might be some frustration due to thwarted expectations or time and energy spent to no end, but no feeling of having one's entire existence rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:23 PM
2

Women constantly complain that men only want them for sex and not really for her as a person. No, not really. Most women find men that want them for both their bodies and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 05:57 AM
1

Yes, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:32 AM
1

2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 06:37 AM
1

Pick some flovers. That's more personal and less wasteful than buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:05 PM
3

1: How should men respond to the "winner-take-all" dynamic in which extremely talented/handsome/intelligent men scoop up all the hottest women? Is that not fundamentally painful and envy-inducing? What should men do in this scenario? Men should do their best and be happy with what they get. Why exactly does rejection yield such profound bitterness/anger? Because you haven't been cultivating a mindset that can handle it in a less stressful way. I'm not saying rejection doesn't affect me, it just …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:39 AM
1

The fact that women even bother to group men into "good" and "bad" sexual experiences is evidence that are large part of the female sexual experience is psychological. Doesn't men do that as well? I'm a man and I would definitely say I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 10:31 AM
1

Yeeeaaahh, the same way you depend on a bunch of farmers and food processing workers to feed you. But being totally indepent is considered more quirky than manly, mature etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:17 AM
2

Would this behaviour ever be considered as genuine? Yes, but it's also easily misinterpreted or missed. Or would there be some hidden agenda in a woman doing this. Maybe in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 04:27 AM
1

Well, keep up with that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 08:08 PM
1

You wanna make a contribution to science? You don't have to be like Newton to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:53 PM
1

Calling them man-children won't make their contributions to science any less impressive. They're just less impressive as people and that is a perfectly ok thing to be, one of my jobs is taking care of people that can't take care of themselves and I don't think any less of them for being in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:50 PM
2

So he's a gifted man-child then, still not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:13 PM
1

TIL I'm a manchild cuz I use Uber. Lol. I think the important part here is depending on the good will of others to get around. If you use uber you're not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:07 PM
1

I guess I'd do what I usually do; be flirty and forward but able to talk about stuff without making everything about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 06:50 PM
1

Help!!! ...I have a personality that makes it easy to get guy friends .. What kind of personality is that? I could use some guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 06:48 PM
1

if being average looking were enough,why would TRP advise men to spend so much time in the gym (lift)? Because it's so much fun? I do it for my mental and physical health. That I look better is just a pleasant side effect and it seems like most girls don't care about it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 06:47 PM
1

It seems I am, but I would prefer it if she felt more secure about her place in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:25 AM
1

Probably not but it does depend, to some extent, as to why they rejected me. Like was it because they were pursuing someone else? Then fuck no. Was is becasue they were to busy with career stuff? Well, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:08 AM
1

Maybe, if I needed to make some extra cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:26 PM
1

I pity them. Am male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:10 PM
1

Q4All: Do you foresee a future where we break free of the idea that male status is gained through accumulation or seduction of desirable women? It's always been possible for a man to gain status by other means than sleeping with a lot of women. But it's also the case that being good with women is something that will increase any mans status in the eyes of almost everyone while the other paths to high status are sometimes very niche-specific. So I guess my answer is yes; we're already there and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:07 PM
1

But how do you know that? Most people that are average in social skills leak emotions to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 03:34 AM
1

My only issue with medication is that it means the changes you feel happen because you altered your bodies' natural chemistry rather than because you made the necessary changes required in your life (at work, at home, whatever) to feel better. Except that a lot of mental problems are caused by having an unnatural brain chemistry. There's still debate about wether the chemical imbalances are the ultimate or the proximal cause of these problems but it is a fact that manipulating the brains chemist…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:39 PM
1

So you're average at social skills then. That means your social skills are neither an asset or a hindrance in your career. What's different about a successful sociopath is that their social skills are an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:34 PM
2

"spark" means absolutely nothing to me, my brother or any men I know of. I'm a man and I can relate to a lot of the descriptions of "the spark" that's been given in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:21 PM
1

I don't like it when people do anything, except for sex and sparring, aggresively so I would not appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 08:08 PM
2

I'm polyamorous, although right now my situation could more be described as having a gf and a few fwb's. They all know that I see other people and the girlfriend either knows who the other people are or know them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:50 AM
1

(no anal that's only to keep Chad around) TIL I'm Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 04:44 AM
3

But they're really frustrated as to the price they have to pay. I think most men pay that price because they themselves believe they have to, not because it's a necessity to get the girl they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:59 AM
1

Two possible scenarios; They attack me with what I believe is intent to really harm me. Or it's some kind of full-contact sparring going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 07:44 PM
2

And at the same time, a hot guy can get a girl to send nude texts if he revs her up the right way by talking flirty in the right context, but to an outsider it just looks like "show me your tits" and they think it works. You don't even have to be hot to get some girls to send nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:39 AM
2

Yeah, we shouldn't laugh at people born and raised outside western culture. It's not their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:27 AM
1

Yes, through nation states that will soon crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 11:38 AM
0

I don't think the status quo is fixed, but I do believe that central government will grow weaker over time, followed with a fracturing and breaking up of nation states and larger political units. Some small political entity might enforce the thing you dream about but it won't happen on a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 11:30 AM
3

I guess I should just be glad that this won't happen then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 11:24 AM
4

As a person that is childless by choice I would not vote for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 10:54 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 05:06 AM
1

We'll see if that ever happens :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:58 AM
1

I have a penis, but I haven't fucked any female friends. Guess I'm just to unattractive then. But at least I won't have to deal with awkwardness and drama :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:50 AM
1

Guys and Girls can't be just friends unless it was in certain specific instances. What are those circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:45 AM
1

Just talking from my own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:26 AM
1

Guys and Women are never "just" friends. They can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 05:46 PM
1

Where do you people find these women with these long lists of demands? Is it an american thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:36 AM
1

1: How actually hot are the people you bang, after the deceptions are removed? They're in the 5-8 range, with a few outliers- 2: How actually mind-blowing is the sex? Rarely mindblowing, but almost always a good time. 3: And is it actually worth the time/energy/money investment? It's worth the cost of an occassional cup of coffee. As for time and energy; I might spend that in a more productive way of course, but would I really?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:40 AM
0

It seems we value different things. I enjoy being (somewhat) attractive and valuable, but I value piece of mind more than that and that's why I consider it to be the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:54 AM
0

But why chose the second worst alternative? Go for good instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:38 AM
1

Being stoic may be harmful to men. No, it's beneficial to every person. Being stoic is the price you pay as a man to be attractive, succesful and valuable. It's not a price you pay, the peace of mind that follows is a reward for making an effort to live better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:36 AM
2

I have read about studies which found that the whole "bottling it up" theory of emotions is not realistic. Emotions aren't fluids or gases that build up in pressure and explosively break their container. That's true, but emotions have a physical basis and negative emotions are often connected to the stress response which does take a toll on one's body and mind. Everyone has a different interpretation of what is a healthy middle and many people's definitions of the healthy middle will fluctuate a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:35 AM
2

Some stoic philosophers would say that crying is perfectly fine since controling the basic bodily reactions connected to emotions is difficult or impossible. The important thing would be to not let grief overcome you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:22 AM
1

What dictionary? I don't doubt that there is a dictionary that defines it that way since dictionary definitions are short and basic by definition but this is outright misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:19 AM
1

Stoicism fills an important part of male culture IMO. Can it turn toxic? Sure. But can true stoicism, as advocated by the stoic philosophers, really turn toxic? Faked stoicism, bottling your feelings up inside you, can definitely turn toxic but that's a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:12 AM
2

That's probably something that differs among people. I'm more inclined to seeking advice when I'm happy because that's when I will actually have the energy to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 09:32 AM
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Male, 38 years old. If they are attractive both physically and personality-wise; a call or text would be sufficient. If they're lacking in looks or personality I guess there would need to be some kind of hoop-hoping, but I'm open to suggestions as to what form that would take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:14 AM
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I used to kind of think that when I was younger. Not in the sense of a reward for a certain behavior but more like I didn't really deserve sex if I wasn't a good enough person in general. Now when I'm older and a bit wiser I think of getting sex as something that happens simply because women like sex and some women like sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:56 PM
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38 years old Purple 17 24 Ons: 1. Casual sex like fwb's or just testing each other for sexual compatibility: 11. 6
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:23 PM
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Considering the massive effort in social and biological engineering that would have to be put in to build a society like that: I would say that people would be happy with it. If we put that much effort into it would only make sense to build happiness into the construct as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 06:14 AM
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Well, it's a nice sentiment anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 01:20 AM
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https://www.artofmanliness.com/2008/08/24/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:00 PM
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That's one way of defining it. I kind of like Ralph Waldo Emersons definition: To laugh often and much; To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; To appreciate beauty; To find the best in others; To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived; This is to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:41 PM
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Q4ALL: Once you abandon "Be Yourself", how exactly do you shape/sculpt/FORGE yourself into the Ultimate Man? I don't think you should abandon "Be yourself" entirely. What kind of man you wanna be should be decided based on your own personality and inclinations. How you forge yourself into your better self, your Ultimate Man, depends on what kind of man you chose to be. But you have to chose, and some people won't even make it past that. My advice would be to either try to emulate people that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:38 PM
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I want to be succesful, but I decide for myself what constitutes success.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:25 PM
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But the only thing you can do is to try doing the best with the life you've been given, Chad's life might have been better or worse than yours but that doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 08:45 PM
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Do you really feel that way? I'm kind of happy about getting old although I don't have much going for me, life is pretty sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:39 PM
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I understand that, I just wanted to point out that you can't even have a market without restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:11 PM
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The definition from google says "an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses. If you want the market to remain a market you will have to have restrictions on the ability to take things by force. So you can either have a market with some minimal restrictions or not have a market at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:02 PM
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But the point is that for some men it's not merit based and they are just hot. And a lot of those people will peak in high school and be losers on the relationship market later in life. Of course people that are both accomplished and hot will have an unfair advantage but then merit comes into play as well and it's thus less unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:59 PM
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I think it's fair to say that if 20/30% of men disappeared, stopped going to work, society would start to crumble. That will probably not happen, even the men that fails to attract women will still want money for hobbies and a comfortable life and will keep going to work to earn that money. Very few men would be capable of downshifting to a more simple life were they contibrute less to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:54 PM
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I'm a dude in an open relationship and not hotter than my gf, I've had more partners than her so far simply because I'm more outgoing. And I don't view our relationship as a battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:59 PM
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How would such a right be fulfilled in practical terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:26 PM
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Watch modern tv and movies. There are tons of cool role models in modern TV. Of course they're a bit more morally ambigous than the characters of 80's and 90's media but I don't think you'll have much of a problem picking out what to emulate and not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:20 PM
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Gf: average looks, non-repulsive and a little more than bland personality. Casual sex: average looks, flirting skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 02:42 PM
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I'm way more attractive when I'm not depressed and angsty and exercise helps me to not be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 03:36 PM
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but a lot of reason to want to watch society burn down. Not really, most of the men I know that struggle with women (and a lot of those that doesn't) would not stand a chance of making it through a societal collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:59 AM
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The bleeding comes from the body rejecting the unfertilized egg to make room for a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:57 AM
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Somewhere between the ages of 24 and 41. I choose that range because the five most attractive women that I know irl are in that range.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:03 AM
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If you're truely alpha then you should be able to do whatever you want without giving the opinion of others any thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:39 PM
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Not true, the majority of men have sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 09:18 AM
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Or you could just stop being unattractive and enjoy the joys of sex and attraction (this is possible for a majority of men).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 09:00 AM
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Totally isolated groups were probably extremely rare, trade networks and probably also cultic gatherings have existed since deep prehistory. And with those interactions there were probably an exchange of genes and partners as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:18 AM
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Depends on how you define "morally good" and it's opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 08:06 PM
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Because it's one of lifes pleasures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:33 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 09:04 AM
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Guy here; I've slept with maybe two girls that were notably taller than me. And plenty of girls that I can't really tell if we were equally tall, if she was just a little taller or if I was like a cm or something taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 09:00 AM
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I tend to do the "Quick attachment and expression" and none of the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 10:01 PM
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So you're saying one has to chose either the blue or the red pill? No middle ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 08:44 PM
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Nah, I have no money but I have a woman (sometimes women).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:05 PM
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My problem with socialism is I am afraid if the revolution came I would not be allowed to own more than one pair of shoes Don't worry, you'd get to have one pair for summer and one for winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:47 PM
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Many western guys go to traditional cultures and get a wife from there. is it because of the expectations of western women? It's probably because they fail in the western dating market. would you get a traditional woman through arranged marriage? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:31 AM
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But it's more fun than going to work :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:19 PM
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Maybe 5 I'm 173 cm, between 80-85 kg (haven't weighed myself in a while) and more muscular than average. 38 years old. White. Ginger. The people I've slept with or been in relationships range from 4 to 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:17 PM
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Never heard of that happening, staring on the other hand is worth bitching about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:11 AM
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the recent uproar in the middle east is cited as one example Nah, rising food prices was probably the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:08 AM
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Are you sure they're not just complaining about staring?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:47 AM
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Outside are different contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:46 AM
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It might be true that it effects men differently, but are the effects bad? I think they might be bad for immature and weak men, but they need growth rather than protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:37 AM
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There are ugly feminists. Are ugly women over-represented in the feminist movement? I have no idea. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:02 PM
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It's the simple realization that 80% of males were never meant to reproduce, and you're in that 80%. I'm perfectly fine with this :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 07:48 PM
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Maybe you can find some nuanced people on the internet to talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 08:58 AM
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Where do I go. Talk to your friends that have more harmonious relationships if you wanna try to fix it, otherwise just end it and aim for better luck in the next relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 07:45 AM
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A date should require some effort, but the fun kind of effort, not the exhausting one. If you feel like you can just wing it or run on autopilot throughout the date then you're not dating an interesting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:54 PM
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So why would you want women to stop seeking attention that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:36 PM
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I think the weight of the opinion should be in proportion to the amount and hardness of work carried out in conceiving and giving birth to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:50 AM
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I imagine that some double standards might stem from the idea of male disposability and since I'm fine with that idea I'm also fine with those double standards, if there are some.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:28 PM
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Ok then, that's a lot of overweight :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:17 PM
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70% sounds huge? A source? And I still think my reasoning is relevant for swedish men. Or a smaller subset like swedish urban men, wich is the demographic I belong to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:09 PM
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Why? don't you enjoy women showing themselves off by wearing flattering clothes and stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:03 PM
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Of course it's possible, behaviors can be changed to a very large degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:01 PM
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Go with the artist thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:41 AM
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Superb physical condition, quite easily top 1 percent. I'm pretty sure that the correlation between fitness and attractiveness isn't linear all the way. It probably plateaus above a certain level and the difference between being in the top 1 percent and let's say top 30 percent is really small.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:06 AM
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Don't let the money and logistics issue hold you back, I have similar problems but that haven't really been much of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:53 AM
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I'm purple becuase neither the blue or red pill has anything to offer me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:19 PM
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I find it way easier to symphatize with TERF's than all the more-than-two-genders people. Let me put it this way: I know a someone married to a gender studies teacher, and both of them are academics into socialism, and I have seen him criticize identity politics, cultural relativism, and post-modernism. It's possible to be a socialist and against all those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:21 PM
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If you investigate, I think you will find that 0% of the people who compiled that list are ideologically anything other than hardline feminazis. Are you critical of the content in the list or are you just attempting the poison-the-well tactic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:17 AM
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I agree. I was just pointing out that you're using a strawman of the "be yourself" advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:11 PM
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Why would you assume Jesus had any attractive traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:40 PM
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No one is saying you shouldn't strive to improve, and gaining a more correct understanding of how something works is definitely improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:37 PM
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Everyone does things with an expectation of being rewarded in some way. In some way, yes. But it gets creepy/annoying when you start to assume that your niceness will get rewarded in a specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:07 PM
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Is treating them badly and expecting sex as well misogynistic? Expecting sex is kind of crappy in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:05 PM
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Yeah, cynical people like to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:28 PM
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I have read that. It didn't say much about the definition of "nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:45 PM
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You'll change your mind once you learn more about life :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:37 PM
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It's possible to be nice without being those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:32 PM
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I see, seems a lot of people have bad experiences from it :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:36 AM
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What community and why do you detest it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:29 AM
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I have at least one female friend that I would say I have a strictly platonic relationship with. So it's obviously possible. There are other girls that I am friends with but also slightly attracted to and that I would definitely have sex with if they were up for it. But since I'm kind of an adult I'm able to partition those feelings and I don't think they influence the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:01 AM
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Ah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 07:58 PM
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Titanium, cheap and durable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:42 PM
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Not true. Source: am introvert, loves flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 07:52 PM
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All women cost money. Really? How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 07:49 PM
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Yes, but it's still possible to miss or misunderstand things. Two of my silliest missed hints were a misunderstanding of verbal communication, because I didn't get the implied meaning of those statements (an invitation to join someone at their hotel-room and a repeated invitation to stay the night at someones place).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:43 PM
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Yes, body language is just an heuristic, not encoded statements. But the same goes for much of verbal communication as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:27 PM
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This makes me happy! Big boobs are nice, although I prefer small and medium sized, but the strong focus on big boobs made fake boobs way to common and I really hope that's out of style for good now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 09:14 PM
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