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I finally lost my v-card when I started omitting the first bullet point, and the woman who took it (a college classmate) was pretty pissed when I admitted to it after the fact. As for the second bullet point, I have not worked with an SW so I can freely deny it. And yes, women have asked me. As recently as last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:46 PM
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There are two exceptions to 'the past doesn't matter.' If he has no past (i.e. he is still a virgin) If he has hired SWs (considered a heuristic for [lack of] success with women)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:09 PM
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Can I omit the part about flying out to the Bunny Ranch because I was sick of being a virgin at 24?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:32 PM
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For the men, whatever standard you set for what determines a hoe in your eyes, would you ignore that if you built a genuine connection in the early stages with a woman? Why or why not? There's nothing wrong with being sexually prolific (provided that your partners gave consent and you use protection). As someone who's struggled to enter a stable, committed, and sexually active relationship, I would appreciate a woman who has a healthy appetite for sex with me. The issue is that men with a sparse…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:15 PM
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The paradox of Schrodinger's misogynist, as found on PPD: uses women for sex but is actually an inkwell hates women but is so nice to them that he elicits icks obsessed with IG models but will sleep with literally anything with two X chromosomes fat, lazy, unemployed, and lacking any semblance of self-respect but also so entitled that he thinks having a non-obese gf is his prize for maintaining a six-pack and getting multiple promotions at work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:29 PM
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two bodies 39M here, 2 is fine. It's actually the 3-body problem that concerns us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:24 PM
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if a guy is dating a woman and then a few dates in or even more say, the guy tells her how he regretted half the women he hooked up with but did it to gain further sexual experience OP, if you actually said this - 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:07 PM
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Most people can negotiate and adapt to accommodate a partner. In the Western SMP, heterosexual women have far fewer incentives to pair off because they can exist comfortably (hitting 4/5 out of Maslow's hierarchy) without having to negotiate with or adapt to a partner to whom they are not viscerally attracted. For our part, heterosexual men have even more incentive to negotiate or adapt for a partner because it's very difficult for us to find intimacy in general, let alone outside the confines o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:22 PM
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Rimmed cartridges - truly a man of taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:58 PM
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We do not allow posts about race on this sub. However, conversations about race that develop organically in the context of other subjects are allowed as long as they remain non-inflammatory and stay on topic. Did I make a post about race? Did I specifically mention any races as "undesirable?" Or did I just relate anecdotal evidence about demographic and socioeconomic characteristics of men deemed "below average" by women [with similar, if not slightly inferior, levels of professional accomplishm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:43 PM
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Most these women would be deemed as unattractive by men. I'm 39, 5'10, 175, can bench my bodyweight, and am a homeowner. I've also received "let's just be friends/no chemistry" texts from Exhibits 1-3. They're attractive and therefore spoiled for choice. OP might be right about Exhibits 4-6, but in the right SMP (Man Jose or an oil drilling platform in the North Sea), pretty much any guy could be their cub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:50 PM
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Don't forget "displays a phenotype consistent with being of [undesirable ethnic group] origin." I've worked with a lot of "below average" men who held graduate degrees in STEM, owned their own homes, spoke English + a South/East Asian language, and had great relationships with their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:43 PM
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I didn't stick with BBJ because applying that monthly fee as an additional payment on my mortgage cuts a decade off of its lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:26 PM
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in the DC 'burbs, that's $250-$300/month, depending on how long your contract is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:45 PM
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The context of the larger community is important. Two of my cousins are sheriff's deputies outside of Buffalo - they are horndogs, but they would not be caught dead in a ballroom dancing class. Even though they are smart enough to recognize that: there could be a lot of women there unlike in a bar, those woman are generally willing to interact with men below their attractiveness threshold Where I live, men are much more willing to try unfamiliar activities for a shot at meeting someone. As such,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:40 PM
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In practice, what are RPers doing? Mostly gym and leveling up at work. Both are important, but avenues like ballroom dancing, creative writing, and learning to play an instrument (which are also skills that attract partners) go largely ignored or worse, deemed "gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:35 PM
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Looks, Status, Money should be the PPD subtitle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:05 PM
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Yeah I have that effect on a lot of folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:48 PM
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Dance will not make you more physically attractive. In fact, the guys who do well in dance are usually good looking and social guys. They would do well outside of dance at a bar, and dance simply gave them access to women socially. If you’re ugly or awkward pre-dance, dance doesn’t automatically solve your problems as a guy. Boom. One of my colleagues actually bemoaned the fact that her swing dance class (paid, so they were all serious) forced her to dance with unattractive partners too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:07 PM
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It just seems like ballroom dance classes are an overlooked opportunity for men to get themselves out there. Have you personally considered taking some lessons? If not, why not? If you did, what was your experience like? The few times I did, it was an absolute sausage fest. Caveats include: it was community-sponsored, so investment was minimal (I agree with Blue Pillers that a lot of men are unwilling to invest in opportunities for personal growth aside from fitness) the community in question wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:49 PM
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chadfishing experiments FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:53 AM
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At all - she won't acknowledge him in public, let alone allow him to buy her dinner. On the other hand, most women can attract their ideal man for a night of anonymous, no-strings-attached fun. A formal, monogamous relationship on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:00 PM
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Most people who make six figures live in cities where that's the normal pay and cost of living is through the roof. Wrong again. There are only eight metro areas in the US where median household (i.e 2 earners) income breaks $100K. There is nothing normal about that level of compensation - if there was, this country would look a lot different (probably more like Zimbabwe). Good Lord you just make shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:56 PM
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Let's be honest with ourselves - few Americans are making 6 figure incomes. In fact, the median household (i.e. 2 earners) income was ~$71K in 2021. The fact that you wasted the time to type that response means you're definitely not one of them. 🤭 Now your choice is to refute that by lecturing me on the difference between "median" and "mean," or just calling me an inkwell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:41 PM
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Agile PMs being useless? Work in software engineering long enough. Agile PMing being a pathway for employers to appease DEI overlords by overcompensating employees with certain "underrepresented" pheno- and genotypes? Nobody is going to commit serious academic or journalistic dollars to such an endeavor yet. Again, gotta work as an SE long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:24 PM
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tech bro life If you're bottom 80% looks-wise, six-figure income won't save you. The only women who appreciate you for it are in very dire financial straits already - or overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:15 PM
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I've been watching male colleagues grow dejected after being passed over for promotion in favor of female colleagues who have mastered pretty much everything except actually performing the revenue-driving work. This has been going on since the mid-aughts. Google actually found itself underpaying men in 2019. Was pleased to see Meta and Capital One absolutely decimate their useless Agile/Scrum ranks, which were effectively an income redistribution scheme favoring employees that identified as fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:12 PM
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Sure. My best supervisors have been women - they weren't geniuses or luminaries within their industry, but they were very good at motivating their teams and helping me become better at my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:38 PM
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39M. I can think of three women who would make great partners for anyone other than a Tradcon. One is a friend from undergrad, and the other two are exes from a decade or so ago. Why didn't I try to lock them down? The first one isn't attracted to me, and the other two dumped me. While all of them have dated around, they've been in multiyear, exclusive relationships so I wouldn't call them long-term carousel riders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:26 PM
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Bay Area, particularly as you get closer to the Man Jose end. Single women transfer from the SF office to mine in DC all the time, and over the years, I've watched a few of them grow progressively saltier as they realized that out here on the East Coast, simply being a cis het woman wasn't going to land them a ripped physician. Relearning femininity in your mid-30s is tough when you haven't had to practice it in a decade. Is it simply a numbers game that a smaller percentage of men are considere…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:21 PM
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Wonderfully written.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:19 PM
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a lot of men haven't gotten the chance to properly develop a taste for what they'd like as a romantic gesture, so knowing what to do might be difficult based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:51 PM
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If you're on a desktop browser, there's a 'Subreddit Jargon' tab in the header. Frankly, if you're going to converse with someone who cares enough about this stuff to have flair, you shouldn't be surprised when they use shibboleths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:29 PM
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I got chewed out for being "picky" by a [drunk] acquaintance when I turned down her little sister for a NYE kiss. My rationale was obvious to both parties without me having to state it, which is why I was specifically berated for exercising volition when both felt I should be grateful for the attention. The reason that AF/BB continues to swirl around communities like this one is because men who have actually participated in the SMP have the lived experiences to back us up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:11 PM
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No, I'm a cis het guy and have to give everyone a chance. I'm not allowed to have preferences, because that would make me entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:53 PM
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If you don't like society, get out of it. Nah, I've contributed way too much: Habitat for Humanity, tutoring underprivileged high schoolers in math and science, and shrinking my carbon footprint by composting and human-powered commuting. Instead, I'm going to continue advocating for average and sub-average men stand up for ourselves at the ballot box by supporting legislation that forces everyone to be responsible for their own hedonism instead of making us subsidize it. Honestly, I'm kind of ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:05 AM
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Maybe not the moral authority, but if leftover men in the US show up to the polls with a coordinated agenda, our elected legislators will represent their faithful constituents. And look at India's Narendra Modi: for him, inkwelldom is a feature, not a bug. Shaming us only works if we think that playing ball will give us partners and families. When it becomes patently clear that it won't, political innovation and redrawn ideological lines are inevitable. The GOP has been tricking average men into…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:00 AM
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I'd be proud of her and waiting for her boyfriend to slip up and call the landline.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:52 PM
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Oh no doubt we are all responsible for children - in a post BetaBuxx world like the one Yoon Suk-yeol is trying to create, biological parents will enjoy the privileges and the burdens of raising their own offspring. Non-parents (likely us inkwells) will have the responsibility of holding them accountable. Steel sharpens steel, and we all have a role to play :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:46 PM
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Because if you want to live in greater society you have to pay your share The issue is where that share begins and ends. You don't have to cover injuries that I sustained whilst cleaning my AR-15 because it was I who chose such an impractical and dangerous hobby. And if Chad convinces you to let him rawdog and knocks you up, I shouldn't have to cover the costs of the babysitter while you finish that college degree. Your body, your choice. At least in the US, single, childless, and economically p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:33 PM
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expectations and stigma against single men need to change The People Power Party in South Korea represents a new kind of pro-male political party. They hold the presidency and the national legislature (2022 elections). They are probably the first successful political party in a liberal democracy to incorporate explicit opposition to [fourth-wave] feminism as a key part of their platform. Party membership is almost entirely male, and members are generally unperturbed about being discriminated aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:22 PM
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This is happening already. Where do you think all the jaded female Redditors in DatingOverThirty and 2XC come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:12 AM
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One of the triumphs of second-wave feminism (somewhat contemporaneous to the broader Civil Rights movement in the US) was [theoretical] recognition of women as peers in the labor market. As female incomes grew and risk of accidental pregnancy decreased (thanks to the Pill), they also became our sexual peers. With the advent of fourth-wave feminism, dating apps, and reflexive wokeism in the press and in the courts, they're our betters. Now that women are able to experiment sexually, invest in sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:12 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:01 PM
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Noted, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:57 PM
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An insight into how very little you (or all men I didn’t want to assume your comment =‘d men in general) value friendships Men value friendships with each other a lot. Frankly, some of the closest friends I have at this point (very close to 40) are perpetually single men like myself. EDIT: And don't get me started on the vast male friendship networks enabled by gaming and social media. Unite the Right (2017) and J6 (2021) are prime examples of the latter. To expand upon an earlier comment I made…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:41 PM
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Based, especially the part about how conventionally desirable women cannot empathize with an average hetero male's reality. imagine you weren’t compulsorily horny 24/7, not touch-starved, and not intimacy starved Some of my buddies have been kicking it in the Bay Area/Man Jose since the late aughts. The perpetually single ones (shortcel, rice/currycel as usual) have perfected a simulacrum of sexual abundance through sugaring, Bunny Ranch weekends, and OF subs. Of course, this lifestyle is only p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:33 PM
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You should be asking successful fisherman, not the fish themselves. If you want to bag Harry Styles despite gaining 75 lbs, letting your moustache and leg hairs darken, and getting blown out by the Islander's first line, find a woman who pulled it off and ask her. I've heard men say women's dating advice is bad yet I haven't heard men give out dating advice. PPD was never intended to be a dating advice community. We discuss the implications of following misguided dating advice, and the underlyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:13 PM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:44 PM
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This came 269 days too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:43 PM
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When I was in my late twenties I had a couple of wonderful FWBs who I can look back on fondly That's great! Sex is scarce for most men, so I'm sure they were grateful for the opportunity and behaved accordingly. Like most single moms I wanted a good connection and nice time with them within my limited schedule Men balancing intensive or overtime-heavy jobs, side gigs, and/or additional training (usually done to enhance our value prop as potential spouses) also want this. Since getting dates (in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:10 AM
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my comment history does, if someone cared to look
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:40 PM
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If women are not attracted to men there is only so much "shaming" you can do to tell her to be happy with a man she does not want. Ah yes, the "government-mandated girlfriend" boogeyman rears his head again. I know that men are being shamed into being happy with a women we do not want, not vice versa. Why does the Fat Acceptance movement only include women? I don't see any fat men prancing about in those Dove commercials. How would you feel if your boyfriend compared you to Lizzo (who's beautifu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:37 PM
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Interesting theory. Here's some very recent scholarship (2023) on the topic. However, Dhoula et al report that: [O]ur results showed significant longitudinal changes in disgust sensitivity. However, while the original study showed higher core disgust in the first trimester, which decreased throughout pregnancy and after birth, our study suggested a rather different pattern, with overall disgust and animal reminder disgust (but not core and contamination disgust) being lowest in the first trimest…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:26 PM
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I use shibboleths (familiar to mid-Atlantic US urbanites) to signify resource-gathering potential: pic of me in front of a landmark in a European capital pic of me fly fishing "rehabbing my condo" in the bio Good Lord I might be doxxing myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:09 PM
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Nope What exactly, are you disagreeing with? ultimately [most single mothers] are looking for someone to go on dates with every second weekend casually I agree completely - they do enjoy sponsored meals with intelligent, successful, and well-groomed men. I'll go even further and state that a quick roll in the hay with Chad is even more satisfying. That it's less burdensome financially and logistically for Chad is a happy coincidence. Also, I've picked up from reading your drivel that you are lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:00 PM
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Yes, in DC at least, those fears match the reality. So grateful for female allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:48 PM
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I've been on the same apps at the same time as Chad and Chad-adjacent friends. Their conversations, and the volume and scope of their match queues, are vastly different from my own. In the rare case that a mutual match was a single mom, she had time for weekend drinks or Netflix and chill with my buddy while I was consigned to a weeknight dinner (her suggestion). TRP and BlackPill are ingrained in their respective adherents because male social networks are heterogenous in terms of sexual activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:39 PM
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They wouldn’t exist if so many men weren’t cheaters. I am still close with an ex who participates in the Washington DC one. Despite being quite the femtard, she has acknowledged that most of the posts come from women who have yet to negotiate exclusivity and are simply trying to suss out their competition. And the rest of the posts are from a dumpee disparaging a man's appearance for catharsis, or a belle looking for tea to use against her beau. They're going for the same men and willingly shari…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:59 PM
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No questions internal to TRP or TBP, or questions from men to other men or women to other women. Your OP reads, in part: ...my question is for men who failed during their "coming of age" years and beyond with women. And I am talking about men who are over the age of 35 and still didn't really have any luck with sex and dating despite trying to "put yourself out there" or any other methods of improvement. Given this sub's audience, this would make for an interesting convo, and one to which everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:49 PM
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guys who claim that women are sharing the same men TIL the "Are we dating the same guy" groups on FB are false flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:31 PM
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Unless you add some disclaimers that welcome input from Redditors identifying as female, this post is bound to get yeeted as a Rule #14 violation. EDIT: and I'm pretty sure there are some women here who watched a brother, male friend, or son struggle to gain romantic/sexual experience during his teens and 20s. Their interpretations of what happened would be very interesting to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:22 PM
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That's a function of her lifestyle. As a solid 5 who makes a little above the median household income in a high COL area, my incoming likes come exclusively from single mothers, about 20% of whom are looksmatches or better. Without kids, they won't touch me. After motherhood has diminished their abundance mindsets (and their disposable income), guys like me become a lot more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:00 PM
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You've already demonstrated a lack of self-awareness. Don't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:35 PM
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u/DragonflyAromatic793 is just pulling bullet points from the PPD misandry playbook. Anytime a[n ostensibly] male Redditor airs a viewpoint that doesn't sit well with them, they accuse us of: hating women lacking romantic relationship experience living in our parents' basements demanding government-issued gfs/spouses This is a particularly blatant example - she introduced three consecutive non sequiturs without even attempting to tie them into a quote of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:22 PM
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NoFap helps men address the hand we are dealt. I know I worked on my body and my money a lot harder than the obese single moms who give me super likes on Tinder. NoFap allows me to engage them instead of shrugging off the obvious opening and waiting for a match that may never happen. If women want confident approaches, they have to accept that their homelier sisters are gonna serve as training wheels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:04 PM
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that’s not going to automatically make him interesting to any woman around Of course not! But it'll motivate him to make awkward conversation with the landwhale barista, and if her abundance mindset is calibrated, she'll recognize his value and laugh. Repeat 30x and he might ask her out. This is a superior outcome to Jergens/SpankBang every night until his t-levels crash and he doesn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:59 PM
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The reason why men aren't dating or marrying is not due to porn, it is the other way around men watch porn because they can't find wives or girlfriends *within their own pool of looksmatches. Plenty of women are interested in a partner who respects them, appreciates them, and is more conventionally desirable (physically and financially) than they are. We're the ones holding out on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:50 PM
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I'm one of those people who misspelled the title :-/ "Can we speculate upon repercussions to the SMP/RMP?*
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:26 PM
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Even if they deign to date us out of scarcity, women who have tons of casual sex have nothing but contempt for men with relatively lower body counts. For women, body counts are fundamentally a matter of personal preference. For men, body counts are a measure of social competence and/or resource-gathering abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:32 PM
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Japanese women are just holding out for a better deal or comfortable remaining single. Two of my buddies taught English in Japan after undergrad (JET program, pretty awesome deal), and they dated tons of long-term single women who were openly dissatisfied with their local prospects, to the point of simply dating Western expats despite the obvious expiration date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:32 PM
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This tracks with the US experience: Yet, in our work using Add Health, we found evidence that by ages 25-32, Asian American men continue to be excluded from romantic relationship markets....these Asian American men are less likely than White, Black, and Hispanic men to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship. One might argue that perhaps Asian Americans differ from other groups in terms of their cultural preferences. However, it is unlikely that cultural norms can account for the lower level…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:06 PM
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Renting gives me a significant advantage, as I'm free to invest assets elsewhere while the majority of hers is tied up in a property. As for her being able to kick me out, that's an incentive for keeping my emergency fund nice and fat. Admittedly, most of the women willing to date me would be unable to buy a house on their own (high COLA area, and I only own a 1BDR condo). I've never considered the implications of moving in with a woman who already owned a place suitable for the both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:21 AM
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Impromptu purchases and trips go unquestioned. So do radical career changes. Balancing school/training and work is a lot easier. Self-improvement isn't viewed as a threat. Same with porn. You can build new friendships, and sustain current ones because there aren't nearly as many competing priorities. AND YOU SAVE $$$. The women who are just happy with your presence, token gifts, and remembering anniversaries got snapped up quick (unless they're conventionally unattractive). What's left are highl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:43 PM
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DC is littered with them - lots of accomplished, slightly overweight thirty somethings going Chad or bust. They'll grudgingly accept a date or two with a looksmatch, but inevitably go radio silent within weeks. Not sure if its ennui or Chad breadcrumbs, but I see the same profiles pop up in the apps 6 months later (I'm there too, but I cycle between the Big 3) with truncated bios and new group pics. In my late 20s, the few remaining Chadlite buddies who were still single relied on this demograph…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:06 PM
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friends nope, family...although I guess I'm kind of a confidante their therapists Massage therapists, yes. I'm sure there's a professional code of conduct, but doubtful that enforcement is nearly as stringent as for mental health professionals. wtf Are you dyslexic, sleep-deprived, or just deliberately obtuse? This reads like you're responding to an entirely different statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:58 PM
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Not applicable to this sub, but I am curious about what you would consider a successful tenure at DOT - Elaine Chao's? ;-) I am positing less power to men and more power to women because it is still disproportionate. Your OP is not about remedying disproportionate representation with any sort of objective metric, or policies that allow more stakeholders to be involved (mail-in ballots and more polling sites for more voters to participate, mandatory employee seats on the boards of publicly-owned …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:17 PM
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My cousins keep booking with the same masseuses (often in-home visits which are generally verboten) and get happy endings. This is light sugaring, because while they are paying for sexual activities, it's not at rates demanded by actual escorts. Also, their masseuses appear to derive some emotional benefit from the encounters. After all, my cousins are fit and considered good-looking in our homeland, but Westernized women are generally unwilling to consider men with strong Asian phenotypes for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:03 PM
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Would it be better for society if men held less power and influence in society? Like most women, most men don't hold any direct power or influence in society. Besides, male elites are rarely sexless (although yeah, some pay for it), so OP's feigned concern about mental instability due to loneliness is unfounded. While society at large would benefit from particular influential men having their responsibilities and privileges re-assigned, the recipients' gender alone is a horrible predictor of imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:19 PM
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I have male cousins in Western Europe (Switzerland, France, Germany). Late 20s - early 30s second-gen Asian immigrants. They are all above 175 cm in height, university-educated, live on their own, and largely sexless (at home). All of them lost their virginity to short-term gfs they found in our homeland whilst on extended vacations/family visits. And no, those gfs weren't looking for a way out - carouseling isn't unique to Tampa or Phoenix. To their credit, they don't bitch about it on Reddit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:52 PM
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Whip out my phone and show her a video of me snoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:32 PM
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Older women won't put up with crap that younger women typically will because they have wisdom, experience, and a strong sense of self. Just because you're a woman above the age of 38.9 (median age of adults in the US, and this is a US-centric trope) and desirable men don't reciprocate your interest doesn't mean that you're an "older career women" whose success intimidates them. I've been in and out of my neighborhood for the past decade, and the manager at my Giant is still the same woman. She's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:34 PM
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Hetero men and women understand each other's issues just fine. The problem is that most of the voices in this sub (and similar communities) want to engineer social and legal structures so that they (and anyone whom they consider to be peers) enjoy maximum advantage in the SMP, regardless of the collateral damage. Since most of the active participants in PPD are single and childless, we cannot conceive of a world where our hypothetical remedies are visited upon our children. For instance: most fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:14 PM
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A man between the ages 18-25 isn’t dating a 30+ mother. That's changing, at least where I live (large metro area on the East Coast of the US). While women are at their peak attractiveness, they're bouncing from harem to harem in an effort to land Chad. Non-Chads make do with whomever will have us, generally women who already got thrown off of the carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:49 PM
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Whilst it may be a bit of a cold plunge shock for modern man, her freedom to reject you and not feel pressure to “love” or have sex with you is indicative of social progress, and if you’re suffering for that it may be time to self reflect and check yourself. No doubt, and if South Korea is a bellwether for Western societies when average men are increasingly unable to participate in the RMV, that self-reflection is going to turn into increased political participation and activism. Last spring, Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:46 PM
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This may sound weird, but I’d rather be with a guy who has lots of experience than none That's not weird - most women participating in Western dating marketplaces do too. Men learn "game" in an attempt to emulate the mannerisms and attitudes of sexually prolific men, so that we have a shot at intimacy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:41 AM
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Can you list some of the things that modern feminism has done which are a net positive for society? Science and medicine benefit when female scientists are recruited, trained, and promoted because of their intellectual talent. Assuming that MODERN feminism includes the post WWII-era, software development in general and NASA's Apollo program owe much to women, who accepted software engineering roles that their male peers did not want. Among them are Margaret Hamilton, Judith Cohen (AKA Jack Black…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:10 PM
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Victor Orban vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:59 AM
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Beautiful response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:34 PM
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If you wander over into DatingOverThirty, you'll see posts from older women trying (and failing) to formalize situationships with younger men on a regular basis. I'd provide links, but that's a violation of Rule #11. why don't we see more older women hooking up with younger guys There are marketplaces where this is common. When I was in my 20s, the Chad-lier members of my social circle cultivated FWB arrangements with 30-something women (divorced or married to their careers) on the regular [whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:03 PM
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Selena confirmed (I wouldn't write "confess" because she had to be caught) her infidelity, and it's been immortalized on the web. Any future partner of hers who fails to do a modicum of due diligence on her prior to committing himself or does his homework and still convinces himself that it won't happen again has it coming to him. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Carousel-riding will persist until men stop volunteering ourselves as landing pads for the inevitable dismount. Forgiving a confirmed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:46 PM
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The decade-old IG account "Humans of New York" actually celebrates it: He wasn’t my type. He was nerdy. He was wearing Converse. And he talked like a robot. But it had been over a year since anyone had paid attention to me.... [my daughter] accepts love without question, and she gives it without question. They love each other so much. So much that it makes me nervous. Sometimes I’ll ask him: ‘Do you just love me because you don’t want to lose her?’ And he’ll say: ‘No. I love her a ton, and I lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:37 PM
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The examples you guys come up with live through for how women "use" "friend zoned" men are always so fucking ludicrous FIFY, and I agree that some of the asks are ludicrous. I've had multiple former colleagues message me on LinkedIn (!?!?) with some BS about "missing me," and a request for my phone number. When I inevitably refuse to provide it, I get follow-up messages asking for a referral or an intro to one of my admittedly numerous contacts. When I decline to provide those, the final message…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I know quite a few neckbeards. Some of them happen to have STEM Master's degrees, extensive social networks, and less than 68" of height/Asian features. You can always spot the misogynists by how ugly they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:02 PM
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Simp - Guy is so desperate for hot non-obese girls he rather tolerate one with a shit personality than be with an average looking obese girl with a decent personality. However, he wants to project this onto other guys even though most guys would rather not deal with a psycho bitch just because she’s hot not fat. FIFY Everything else kind of tracks. Obesity is not a moral failing, but it's a surefire way to turn a romantic relationship into a friendly one. Just ask any overweight guy trying to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:31 PM
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The fact that she acknowledges her notoriety is proof positive that her past does indeed matter. Honestly, her lack of [metaphorical] fucks is commendable. If a future partner gets cucked, he will have nobody to blame except himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:47 PM
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Why exactly do men feel that a ONS is better for losing their virginity than a relationship? It's not, but you're not a hetero male who's trying to find his first relationship in a Western SMP. Sexual competence (or the perception of it) is a screening tool. We have academic evidence that Asian American men (South, East, and Southeast) are systematically excluded from dating as young adults because we are perceived as being impotent or sexually inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:01 PM
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The only thing I ever felt about guys who were virgins were they were off limits for a ONS ONS are the primary vehicle for us losing our V-cards though. The sub's recent focus on [male] virginity is because Western women screen do for it (like you just did) Men unable to find sexual partners are equally inept at entering relationships because most Western women desire some modicum of sexual competence as a prerequisite for consideration as a romantic partner Some states (speaking as a US citizen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:35 PM
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Yeah I'm one of those people who read Ulysses for clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:15 PM
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I’ve personally not seen a woman call a man gross because he’s a virgin, but I’m sure there’s plenty who find it a turn off. The girl who took my card at 21 was far more experienced despite being my age (both third years in college). After an unimpressive (and tipsy) first outing, she broached the question. I will never forget the look of contempt on her face (perceivable even in darkened room) when I answered honestly. It’s not complicated to have sex, and particularly those who are after just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:55 PM
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Had sex with about 60 women in that time period. What was your n-count prior to departing? 30ish sugarbabies Where do you feel like you got the best ROI?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:21 PM
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I matched with their (now) Editor in Chief one time on OK Cupid (during the 2nd Obama administration). Sadly she never responded to my messages. She's a magnificent journalist and I'd totally simp for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:30 PM
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You forgot about screencaps. Much of our rhetoric is based upon screencaps of text convos, Reddit/chatboard comments, and Jezebel essays that display the Western woman's id.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:25 PM
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most women would just be prostitutes TBH, that would be optimal. It would provide an additional income stream for women (and bi- or gay men), and more hapless hetero guys could get laid once in a while without having to settle for a subpar relationship. James Joyce lost his v-card to a prostitute (See Chapter 2, Section V of Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man) and he turned out just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:22 PM
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Relationships are transactions, and the best way to preserve them is to keep both parties convinced that they could not find a better deal elsewhere. As far as passport bros go, the secret is already out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 02:16 AM
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None of the Redditors whom you hoped to trigger with this hyperbolic title believe that we are entitled to any level of romantic affection. Are we free to support legislation that allows us to access intimacy by legally purchasing services from SWs working of their own volition? Absolutely. Quick aside: a lot of men dont care or know how to make a women orgasm How, exactly, are men supposed to know how to make a woman orgasm if they never get an opportunity to build a sexual relationship (i.e. n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:58 PM
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One of the mods tried to silence me with a shadowban that Reddit admins had to overturn, so I'm leery of typing the actual word. I have a strong suspicion that you are being intentionally dense, but if not: 'inkwell' is a euphemism for the second word in PPD Rule #9. Look at your sidebar in the browser view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:41 PM
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God, I wish I was a kid again. Doesn't say jack shit about a woman valuing a man more because he's had sex with other women. It says quite a bit about sexual attraction, and if you don't think that physical attraction is a prerequisite for sex, and ultimately, a romantic relationship...well maybe you should give an inkwell like me a shot ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:34 PM
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I don't know anyone who values men like that. Except other men. Lol, thank you for yet another display of female solipsism. Who gives a fuck about your social circle? Let's check the science: Scofield et al found that men are more attracted to women who are surrounded by other women or alone, rather than women who are surrounded by other men. By contrast, women are more attracted to men who are surrounded by other women, rather than men who are surrounded by other men or alone. Screencap from pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:25 PM
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great thread from 3 weeks ago on someone who did it. Very balanced and nuanced observations by the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:59 PM
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She's trying to motivate you to accept an unsatisfying lot by shaming you. This is why 'inkwell' is such a popular epithet against men these days. Men are valued by the number of sex partners that we can attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:56 PM
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The most direct and obvious solution would be to improve the ‘quality’ of the population of single men so that a larger percentage of women would opt to partner up. There are already a large number of high quality men sitting on the sidelines, at least in the US. Look at South/East/South East Asian-American men: In our research, we find that Asian American men, in particular, are socially excluded from romantic relationships. In fact, we find that despite the higher education and income of Asian…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:48 PM
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Consistency and discipline (in all areas of ones life) are the keys to success. I learned that way too late in in life (which is why I'm still single and posting here). It's good to read about a woman who can recognize a slump-busting situation before it happens. May you find a Chad who shares your desire for something long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:37 PM
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Stick to your guns. You're going to go places.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:28 PM
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Yet these men are ridiculed as losers who can't attract western women (when that has become nearly impossible) or they are seen as taking advantage of people in poorer countries. People use shame to motivate certain behaviors and discourage others. Speaking from a US perspective: The Sexual Revolution of the 1960s eviscerated shame around pre-marital sex (unjustly burdened upon hetero women) Obergefell vs. Hodges dispelled a ton of shame around homosexuality, because it enshrined gay marriage in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:14 PM
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If she wasn't a slumpbuster, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:48 PM
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a dedicated man, who works hard (strong work ethic), doesn't cheat, earns good money and loves her as the characteristics unique to self-identifying "conservatives" is some Star Wars-level fantasy. Kyle Rittenhouse fanbois and liberal women are equally susceptible to delusions. In the case of liberal women, their actual complaint is that they cannot find commitment from men who possess these [admirable] traits and are top 20% in terms of looks and social capital. Admittedly the Left's unquestion…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:53 PM
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A guy that believes that he doesn't have any chances, will look for women that he doesn't have a chance with. Da fuq? I date in a competitive marketplace where men with my Asiatic features give conventionally attractive women (of all races apparently) the icks - I didn't get many chances, which is why I gave them out rather freely. Most of the women who have enjoyed my simping (dinners, trips, monogamous companionship) were far more invested in me that I was in them. I don't blame them: I outear…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:01 PM
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AI putting latte sipping copywriters out of work won’t turn them into housewives for HVAC guys Spat my latte out reading that. You're absolutely correct - HVAC techs have been outearning lower-end business analysts and PMs for years, but they are still perceived as 'working class' and therefore haram to college grads, which all goes to show that 'class' in 21st century America is more of a cultural identity than a specific socio-economic status. The only reason I refer to myself as MC on here is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:59 PM
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The heart wants what it wants. The males with truly good moral character will still be around in a few decades, and if they don't then you still dodged a bullet and didn't waste your youth on them. I don't know if you're being satirical, but I have encountered plenty of accomplished, intelligent, and overall impressive women with this mindset. Maybe they are on to something and I'm the idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:46 PM
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Young men consume Andrew Tate content when their realities start clashing with the BP groupthink being shoved down their throats since childhood. Still, I would advise my hypothetical daughter to avoid men who mention him whilst attempting to court her. This is like bringing up 9/11 while sitting in the stands at a LIV (RIP PGA) tournament. We all know what happened, and there's little to gain from rehashing it. As far as how to date, I would remind her that brutal self-awareness is the best pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:12 PM
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very conventionally attractive types that are insta model types The same as conventionally attractive men - fitness, nutrition, live music events (great place to meet people), and travel for the clout pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:48 PM
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'Incel' has been co-opted by myriad ideological factions; it's like the 'Antifa' boogeyman that American conservatives whine about (and extreme leftists cosplay on Twitter). The most common are, IMHO: Misandrists - 'incel' is an epithet for men whom they despise, since they equate a lack of romantic success with LVM status (ironically, so do Blackpillers ) Mass shooters - 'incel' is an adherent to a codified belief system (with Eliot Rodgers as Joseph Smith), one where the most faithful must las…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:42 PM
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I've found that women with a consistent exercise routine are a lot less neurotic. And neurotic women who embrace a consistent fitness regime become less so. Yes, this applies to both all genders 🏳️‍🌈 but OP asked us why we want an active woman. Unfortunately, regular physical activity alone cannot prevent someone from becoming overweight. That takes plate-pushaways, good sleep hygiene, and other lifestyle choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:24 PM
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politically correct
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:19 PM
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As a het male who has been rejected after a nascent relationship turned physical on multiple occasions, I am aware that women hold men with lower N counts (relative to their own) in contempt. That's why the "inkwell" epithet is so popular in the righteous indignation communities (like FDS) - it's emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:37 PM
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I'm pretty close to the "average" male redditor on here - known as the perpetually single guy in my social circles, experiences little to no success on the apps, and gets laid once or twice a year, usually by acquiring beer goggles and [gratefully] accepting whatever gets thrown my way. IME, the women most willing to consider a relationship with me were the same ones willing to countenance a casual fling with me. Everyone who demanded a traditional courting period ended up resenting me for being…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:30 PM
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As a late-bloomer who often dates women with far more experience than myself (I'm pretty good on paper and interested in dating fellow late-thirtysomethings, so I usually pull consolation prize duty), they tend to resent me for being clumsy in bed and getting emotionally invested faster than they do. "I don't want to be a teacher" and whatnot. Once you've had enough Chad, it's hard to regress to an AFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:30 PM
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It’s far preferable to have a guy who’s hitting his stride who has seen the other side of the coin as opposed to a guy who loses his mind at the first sign of a hot woman giving him attention. Exactly, and that's why "game" can be defined as "displaying the mindset and behaviors of a man with more sociosexual maturity than you actually possess."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:16 PM
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Het men are not immune to preselection bias. Look at how WoC (specifically Black) are treated in online SMP. If we don't see peers chasing, we won't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:39 PM
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I'm curious about any academic work around preferential hiring programs that emphasize recruitment of cis het female candidates, especially for positions with MC/UMC-enabling wages. Given that Google caught itself underpaying men back in 2019, it would not surprise me if the whole "US men are poor and single, making them susceptible to vidya and Playstation" narrative was actually "US men not getting hired for MC/UMC-enabling wages." INb4 the misandrists descend: There is nothing wrong with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:11 PM
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In our research, we find that Asian American men, in particular, are socially excluded from romantic relationships. In fact, we find that despite the higher education and income of Asian American men, there is evidence that they are systematically excluded from having romantic relationships during adolescence and young adulthood. The popular images of Asian American men as geeky and undesirable as potential mates are consistent with work on racial preferences among internet daters, as well as wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:26 PM
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I was in an MS program at a Tier 2 state school - most of us attended part time and the lucky ones were getting stipends for tuition from their employers. Nobody on a PhD track would touch this program.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:28 PM
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One bullshit. Nope. If you don't understand this, you don't work in a white-collar environment (and no, customer service doesn't count). Two if women did push out men from most white collar jobs we are screwed population wise as white collar women don't date blue collar men. We are screwed. This is happening in the US. Look at marriage and fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:00 PM
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"I want women to rely on men economically but they aren't any more!!!!!". As a progressive voter, I take great offense to this. In my line of work, women usually perform better than men: they are more attentive to detail, find meaning in mundane (at least superficially) tasks, and understand group dynamics better. Frankly, women are better at most white-collar roles - the pay gap is real and I'm glad that it's going away. You live in DC which isn't exactly a normal city. Maryland 'burbs. Actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:39 PM
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It's true that I don't get out as much as I'd like, but I work a hybrid role in the DC 'burbs with tons of socially adept men and women in their late 20s to late 30s. I have a respectable network of work friends from past jobs, grad school, a cycling club, and from back home. I still go out to bars. I possess enough social proof to hook up at weddings, conferences, and with friends of friends. If my perspective is skewed, it's probably because my behavioral observations come from interacting wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:07 PM
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Well, he was prolific enough to become a meme. Without BC, he'd be racking up Nick Cannon levels of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:55 PM
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They were close too, so I think it was more about betrayal. Super jealous of the dude, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:41 PM
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In my grad school cohort (Econometrics), pretty much all the single women were members of soft harems. My favorite study group fell apart because the 2 best contributors found out that they were in the same one. Would you agree that great partner > great shared partner > celibate > meh partner aligns with your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:31 PM
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Geomaxx or pay for it, I guess. There was a passport bro AMA post on here last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:53 PM
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Now with the rise of OLD and bars as the main way to meet partners Bars are one of the few venues left where average and sub-average men can avoid getting filtered out, or at least get a few seconds of interaction with single women before we're ewww'd away. West Elm Caleb and his ilk are the product of exceptionally attractive man experiencing so much abundance (via OLD) that they refuse to leave the market. For their part, I think many hetero women actually prefer sharing a high-quality guy, pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:43 PM
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Why are women so obsessed with keeping a slampiece/lover/partner who is taller than them, let alone 6'+ ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:51 PM
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If he isnt attracted to you in the first 5 minutes he wont ever be. Well, there's always scarcity. You know where those hot male/homely female combos come from? Places where the gender imbalance skews heavily male - in the US, some examples are military bases, mining/fracking/drilling towns, and the Bay Area.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:25 PM
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less materialistic women are often less hot though, they also dont simp as hard in the beginning because theyre more real which is less exciting for me When I had OKC (which allowed inbounds to anyone's profile), it was the homeliest women who highlighted baking skills in their initial value prop to me. Lead with your strengths, and all. your entire comment sounds like you pick terrible women Not terrible, but terrible for me. I failed to establish healthy boundaries around my free time and ener…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:42 PM
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sexually inspiring Love this!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:03 PM
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I'm looking for a partner whose financial values match my own: Aversion to unproductive debt Willingness to adopt maintain a more modest lifestyle in the interest of accumulating retirement savings, even if it means looking poorer than her friends, siblings, neighbors ect. Willingness to accept my current financial limitations (~$92K/year in a high COL area with a mortgage and playing catch-up with my 401Ks), instead of pressuring me to join her on trips I cannot afford Earns at least $60K/year …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:08 PM
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He does have an asymmetrical face and a very recessed hairline, but he's not so hideous that he can't get ONS (from homely divorcees, but whatevs). He's honest because he does want a stable relationship where he can be himself - lying about credentials really blows up in your face around here because women always info creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:09 PM
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The best way for average and sub-average guys to navigate litigious and emotionally-fraught environments is to build as many bridges as possible. I'd much rather keep my salary and carry the stigma of being a people-pleasing beta than speak candidly, visit HR, and get blackballed in my industry. Kind of like the Protagonist, pre-Tyler Durden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:07 PM
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I’m sure it’s not just women. He probably notices potential male bonds are doing the same. Maybe, but he's in a road biking club with me - most of the membership is nerdy affluent male (road biking skews that way) and he's well-liked (and has pretty sweet kit). Frankly, some of the most affluent and Chad-adjacent members are equally vapid - engineers and physicians aren't necessarily well-versed in the shibboleths of academia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:59 PM
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When in reality these types of blue collar, essential worker type guys typically do just fine with women. It depends on where you live, and what you're willing to accept. I have a buddy (late 30s, like me) who owns his own HVAC repair business, but has the time and discipline to maintain a diet and exercise regime commonly associated with UMC white-collar Chads. He even has a SFH in a neighborhood popular with affluent young families (Kensington, for anyone in the DC area). But his lack of a col…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:52 PM
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In the pre-pandemic era when office politics were played in person, a very attractive (and unsurprisingly, entitled) colleague tried to call brand me as "creepy" during a bathroom conversation. My center of gravity (i.e. I was the beta orbiter) had the decency to a) break into the convo and b) tell me about it, with a promise to have my back if my accuser tried to escalate to HR. After all, I never spoke with her outside of conversations about work since her disgust was quite palpable. All this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:39 PM
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because unattractive men approach them when they were having fun FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:05 PM
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Paying a hooker for sex will teach a man nothing about dating. Do it enough and you'll be able to feign the abundance mindset of a high-n guy when meeting strangers. Source: Went to undergrad with a nephew of the Sultan of Brunei. He and his buddies from home held frame with American coeds pretty well. That said, his "hoe phases" were dependent on the school calendar and local law.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:31 PM
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The only way get some decent answers here and in DatingOverThirty
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:20 PM
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Lol, that comeback would have been a lot better if you understood how to format text. I'm trying to demonstrate is that something is right or wrong regardless of what we believe, and it's completely fair to care about other people doing killings if we believe they are killings even if they don't believe them Try eating a Big Mac in BJP (the Hindu nationalist party leading India) headquarters. We may understand that cows are a perfectly suitable source of protein, but BJP doesn't, and they rule t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:05 PM
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Abortion (and infanticide) are as old as humanity itself. Delivering a child was just as risky as attempting to lose one intentionally. It is a miracle of modern medicine that abortion is now as safe and reliable as it is. Moral distinctions about personhood should be left those people within whom a fetus is gestating. If we (i.e. Westernized, representative democracies) live the values we espouse, the burden of abortion decisions should rest upon the individuals capable of undergoing them. A li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:48 PM
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The last two proto-relationships I was in ended after they (het women dating me, a het man) realized that I was somewhat apprehensive about being seen in public with them, and was only grudgingly completing boyfriend-adjacent activities in exchange for consistent and enthusiastic sex. I both instances, I was the wealthier, taller, and [much] leaner body-comp'ed one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:11 PM
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5 women believe they are in some kind of relationship and thus not single. One man, Chad, is not single. The 4 other men who could date 4 of those women are single. This is one way the dystopian math could be playing out. It's not dystopian, it's what's happening among MC/UMC young adults in the US. When I did a grad program in a major east coast (US) metro area, most of my cohort was in their late 20s and early 30s - this sort of thing popped up all the time. My favorite study group actually im…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:06 PM
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Top men maintaining soft harems of women, while the rest of us get to take them out for dinner or get in more stepdad reps during date #3, which got evolved from an evening at a local music venue to an afternoon at Chuck E Cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:52 PM
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Uh we'd try to match with them and then invite them out on date. It goes one of three ways: no match (the default reaction) matches, asks for screencaps of my bitcoin wallet, gets unmatched matches, accepts date, and turns out to be fatfisher
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:26 AM
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'Wolfpack' was my attempt at an allusion to Zach Galifinakis' character in the Hangover. Alan's emotionally stunted persona, and the havoc it wrecked on his personal life, rings pretty true in our experiences. I'll try 'coalition' next time but I don't love it, even if lions can kick wolves' asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:32 PM
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I appreciate the concern, but I've been pretty successful in re-directing my energies towards aspects of my life where ROI is more apparent (career, fitness, travel, etc.) I'm just fortunate to have a hetero woman in my life who is willing to broach difficult topics with me because she doesn't want me to be gaslit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:25 PM
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Well I'm a woman. That's why I asked for a pic swap, given your SN and all. So you agree that women who are overweight have major self image and self esteem issues where they would dream of getting with you, let alone a "Chad 10/10"? You were, as you put it, "the best deal they'll ever hope for" I admit that I was unable to discern any "major self-image and self esteem" issues on their end. This reads like you're projecting your disgust of ostensibly male voices on this sub. What I know is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:30 PM
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Want to swap pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:21 PM
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My mother is from a third world country with its own sausage fest issues. If you're a cis het male in the global West, there is still a lot for which to be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:17 PM
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A 'hoe phase' for shy men with limited dating experience is a multi-day stay at the Bunny Ranch, or Thailand if he doesn't want to liquidate his 401K.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:12 PM
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I'm part of a wolfpack of late 30s, never-married, UMC guys who are some combination of short, South/East Asian American, and socially inexperienced. Several of us (including me) ascended to Scenario #1, although your projected outcomes are a bit hyperbolic. None of us have gotten cucked, or forced to raise Chad's kids (step-parent them, yes). That said, higher N women simply don't respect us as peers, as they are accustomed to dating men who are as sexually abundant as themselves. One of our gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:09 PM
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Who is Chad in this context? A 10/10 man? Solid 5/10 here (Upside: 178 lbs 5'10, STEM masters, 40" shoulders, 33" waist, Downsides: hapa with a retrognathic jawline). The only women willing to right swipe on me happen to be overweight, bordering on obese. As such, most of my sex partners are heavier than I am. Still, I am grateful for their company, their personalities, and their willingness to grant me consistent access to sex, so I press on. As far as I know, most of them are single after brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:28 PM
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OKCupid used to have a "reply frequency" metric. That feature disappeared pretty soon after Match Group bought the platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:30 PM
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Really convincing me normal people are organising their lives around this. Yes, and Greta Thunberg is a just a clout-chasing teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:47 PM
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People just being so scared of a movement that emerged largely to expose celebrities (who usually faced few real consequences for all that) that they refused to socialise with a whole gender is among the less plausible explanations. Je crois que non.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:46 PM
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One of my short brown buddies is engaged to an equally short Caucasian looksmatch. They met through his second job - being a barista. Dude is a cybersecurity analyst by day, but between working in a SOC and the DMV bar scene being pretty much what's described in the OP, women simply did not interact with him in anything other than a professional capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:06 PM
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Idk how you all can talk about approaching women, paying for dates, which gender has it harder, body count etc. and not get triggered or feel depressed. What's depressing is watching yourself do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. This sub is a fun place to read, write, and reflect upon truths that we cannot utter out loud. It's also the only place where we can watch misandrist, gynocentric foids spiral out in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:30 PM
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I’m actually making decent money now and find that people more regularly come to me for advice. The respect level has been noticeably different compared to my early/mid 20’s. Pretty much this. While I've visibly weathered as I near 40 (salt and pepper, a bit more jowly), it's become notably easier to hold frame during uncomfortable conversations with colleagues and strangers. As such, I've gone from getting cold-shouldered at bars to having female colleagues ask me if I'm seeing anyone and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:23 PM
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I wouldn't want to live in a place where people were denied sexual agency, and I'm grateful for the few instances in which I got to be a body that a woman expended some of that agency upon. talk about collecting bodies like collecting Pokémon Nah, you're reframing my prose to fit your narrative that undesirable men are automatically misogynists, ipso facto. I wrote about "hook-ups" because those events are clear expressions of sexual desire, which I believe to be an inherent component of romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:54 PM
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Seriously you’re speaking of women as commodities and a need to control the ease we can be used and you’re doing so seriously. I stopped reading right there. My comment history speaks for itself on matters of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:04 PM
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it’s that sexually unsuccessful men can now see ‘what they’re missing out on As a geriatric millennial and hapa male in the mid-Atlantic US, I've spent a lot of time around sexually unsuccessful men (relatives, colleagues, college + grad school friends). We always knew what we were missing out on, long before the advent of social media, smartphones, and 4th wave feminism. Here's the difference - as an undergraduate (ACC school) in the early aughts, even a guy with my Asiatic features could parla…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:21 PM
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To provide even a modest stipend to 330 million people would be quite costly and clearly impossible for a government already drowning in red ink. Look at you larping a fiscal conservative so you can argue with an inkwell. To begin, a UBI scheme doesn't have to include all 330M Americans. Cook County, IL launched a $500/month scheme for 3000+ households, all of which qualified by reporting income 250% below the federal poverty line (or worse). Moreover, UBI doesn't have to be a federal policy - s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:44 PM
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*speaking as an American* Loving that indirect dig at my SES ("opt to share their wealth with you") but I digress. In the same way that American incels are accepting our irrelevance on the SMP, American workers/voters are accepting that we are "poors" and not temporarily inconvenienced millionaires. Even impossibly gerrymandered (by Republicans, as usual) legislatures like North Carolina's are accepting Medicaid expansion because their mouth-breathing constituents have deigned to accept loathsom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 02:33 PM
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Yeah I was out of my depth. I meant Universal Basic Income.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:53 PM
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South Korea happens. Fertility rate is way below replacement rate and there's a major political party (the People Power Party) with anti-feminism as part of its platform. Other than that, we're gonna get deeper into AI girlfriends/fleshbots, climate-induced migration, and hopefully UMBI.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:50 AM
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I often complain about how Asian men (and Black women) are undervalued in most American SMPs because of the cultural baggage associated with our respective ethnicities and immutable features. That said, folks in these 2 demos are receiving interest and attention. The problem is that said interest comes from individuals who would benefit from an ensuing relationship far more than we would. As such, we stay single and hold out for a better deal (that may never come). Black women's issues Asian men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:21 PM
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The trick is for us to not volunteer this information and work like crazy to boost our own n-count in the background.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:07 PM
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They were stable in that my needs were met, lol. The women in question wanted to lock me down and show me off to their friends and family because I was a good pull relative to my predecessors. Basically, I got the pedestal experience that attractive women experience. Both women dumped me because they felt bad about themselves while watching me work out, eat clean, and keep improving. I gave them ample warning about this while dating, and they convinced me that they were interested in this stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:09 PM
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Eh, I've found that relationships where both parties recognize that the guy is the more conventionally attractive one are more stable than the opposite. I've been in two like that, and I made peace with it because I liked being in a relationship. As I commented on another thread, both of them ended because I refused to engage in unhealthy behaviors (dietary choices, sedentary activities) that would further degrade my SMV. Instead of trying to achieve a BMI similar to my own, they wanted me to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:49 PM
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Touché. In my defense, I'm asking holding out for what I bring to the table (fitness, income, no kids, no drama). All my inbounds come from folks who are 2/4 at best, and they're very enthusiastic about meeting me. There are plenty of women who believe that they are in similar straits, and I salute them for grimly holding out for a better deal or an epiphany.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:22 PM
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Love your flair. Robespierre was quite the guillotine-cel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:34 PM
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Trying to be in a relationship with a person who isn’t already trying as equally hard as you are to stay fit is just very likely to end in disaster I'm not saying it's not possible, but it takes A LOT of humility to accept your looksmatches and still put in the work. The women in my example were funny, smart, and cute(ish) - but also alpha widowed. I might have been their first non-Chad and at the end of the day, my juice wasn't worth their squeeze (to paraphrase the MGTOW aphorism).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:39 PM
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Could a website be created? If one was created, would it be sued into the ground? There's precedent. According to WhoIs, the JuicyCampus.com domain has an owner until June 2023 at least. I'm looking forward to AI bots creating beautifully calibrated underhanded compliments masquerading as 'complaints'. It's the perfect native marketing opportunity for tech-savvy men: Is anyone else dating Mark Z.? He's always out of town and sending me pics from his yacht in the Azores or skiing in Breck. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:29 PM
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No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:59 PM
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The secret truth is that women can smell lack of experience on a man. I think that it is disgusting as a high body count in women. Eh, I've fooled some through a conscious effort to remain uninvested and abundant, since inexperienced men veer towards the exact opposite. As far as the physical stuff, you're right that inexperience gets called out quickly. However, the same women willing to date a guy with little social proof (ambiguous level of approval by her peers) are usually willing to play a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:55 PM
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Luckily I'm not. Unpartnered at the moment while I gymmax and wait for the woman of my dreams to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:22 PM
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I'd like to come home to a home-cooked meal once in a while. I'm 39, and I've always been the one doing the cooking. I'm also usually the one who weighs less, but we already covered that on a different thread. I also like the feeling of someone nodding off on my shoulder while we're watching something that bores her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:16 PM
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This is because the men are waiting for marriage and have lower body counts. I went to college with a nephew of the Sultan of Brunei. Cool guy, but his height and features didn't help him at a WASPy ACC school. He racked up his body count on trips to Europe and SE Asia, where prostitution was condoned, if not legal. From what I understand, this is common among upper middle class and wealthy single men from ostensibly "traditional cultures."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:28 PM
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I'd like to see stats on fit men dating obese women Try canvassing the outskirts of any Army or Marine installation in the US. Supply and demand at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:22 PM
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I doubt most fat people would be offended if their SO encouraged them to get fit and healthy together. No, but that assumes that both individuals are facing similar weight-loss journeys. OP is referring to asymmetrical pairings where one person is trying to maintain a healthy body composition while the other is trying to get there. In the US at least, women are able to exercise their weight preferences in the SMP without sacrificing favorable outcomes. If she's not into overweight men, she can f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:19 PM
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I'm 5'10 and 175 ~ at my age and with my desk jockey lifestyle, maintaining that requires IF, daily runs, and eating salad (!) for breakfast, which I hate. Unfortunately for me, the only way I can get laid consistently is by dating women whose dietary and lifestyle choices are demonstrably worse than mine. What I'm wondering is if anyone in this forum has tried to develop a more healthy lifestyle with a woman who is overweight and with whom you see potential. Try to get her to work out with you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:54 PM
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In 2016, Norwegian sociologist An-Magritt Jenson completed a study on Norwegian (one of the most fertile Western European nations) attitudes on parenthood and dropped this gem in her paper: A surprising finding in this study was the class divide in partnership behaviour. The majority of the upper-middle-class men, seven out of 13, lived with a partner. Six men were single, three of them having recently broken up from a long-term relationship. By contrast, working-class men were single apart from…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:37 PM
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Comedians create content. The jokes are to illicit [it's elicit, FYI] a response, to shock or amuse people, to tell relatable or entertaining anecdotes. They aren't for dating advice. Just tying off a loose end here. I take it that you disagree vehemently with comedienne Chelsea Handler when she told CNN that I am not going to change the way that I behave in order to make [ex-boyfriend Jo Koi] feel more comfortable. I’m not doing that, and I had to walk away from something that I really believed…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:07 PM
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feigning interest in someone just to get a date This is called "giving her/him/them" a chance. My time and attention are valuable - if I give them to someone whom I find to be conventionally unattractive (and I'm no prize myself), that's a fucking gift because I do have self-respect. And to be frank, there's no lack of self-respect among the women who deign to talk to me. My incoming likes on Bumble come through fast and furious, generally from women who are older and heavier than I am. They thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:16 AM
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I'm a guy nearing 40 - no partner yet, so I get laid about once a year, usually after a night out and with someone to whom I would not be attracted without beer googles. It's still awesome. Keep grinding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:12 PM
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With the exception of Mission Trip guy, they had all studied abroad (Japan, Singapore, UK) at some point in undergrad and were distinctly aware of how single women treated them abroad vs. back home in the US. they were just doing jobs there No, they accepted overseas jobs after struggling romantically (and professionally in one case) in the US. The possibility of romantic success abroad outweighed the challenges of expat life, including leaving social circles they had built in their early 20s. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:22 PM
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How the tables have turned since John Nash attended Princeton! Ironically, it seems like the folks who need to apply the Nash equilibrium these days are American women. Flip the genders and the blonde becomes Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:51 PM
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Cut and pasted from a comment I made in askmen last week: Here's my anecdotal experience: 100% of my friends who moved abroad (ostensibly for work but they were perpetually dissatisfied with dating in the US) got married and appear to have stable, loving relationships with their wives. 2 taught English in Korea and brought home Korean wives 1 worked as an expat in HK and brought home a Dutch wife 1 taught English in Mainland China and brought home a Chinese wife 1 went to the Philippines on a mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:10 PM
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We make up 7% of the US population. Assuming most of the participants here are US-based, that 12% means we're overrepresented. And while that 7% overall represents, men, women, and children, the 12% is probably all guys. So we're super overrepresented.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:19 PM
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he goes by BB or Billy too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:58 PM
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What are you having trouble understanding? Why do I have to have trouble understanding? I'm eliciting responses from you that outline the solipsism inherent in your worldview ("I've never ______" as a proxy for your actual moral stance). Whether or not you possess self-awareness is not my concern 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:35 PM
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I've never asked a man if they've hired sex workers, lol That's not the same as acknowledging that men also have a right to privacy about our pasts. Gynocentric solipsism at its finest!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:24 PM
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You literally just advocated for men getting a woman drunk and tricking her into admitting something (that is none of your business) So you agree that asking men if they've hired SWs is also off limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:17 PM
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But this post has exposed that most guys will not outright ask a woman, they go for "indirect" questions (indirect questions lead to indirect answers, if you need to know something you have to be brave enough to ask). Would you ask this of a potential SO? Porn addiction is widely viewed by het women as a negative characteristic in a man - do you ask your dates how much they use it? Just shows that these guys know how absurd it is to ask this and obviously fear that the woman will laugh, and brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:03 PM
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TL;DR - For an Average Fucking Chump, the problem with high N-count women is that they simply cannot muster respect for a guy who's spent more time in dry spells than in relationships (a demographic that's growing rapidly, and from what I gather the majority of cis het males on this sub). My own N-count is barely double digits: ~.6 new partners/year since I turned 18. I am attracted to outgoing, intelligent, and conventionally attractive women: the kind who can rack up serious numbers by their 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:33 PM
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Head of sales is an early 30s smokeshow and she closes a lot of business herself. As I understand it, most of the decision makers are men (I'm solution side, so I don't see that part). shitty SaaS scam services Jury's out on that one, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:01 PM
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Older men are still more useful and have better and more useful skills than older women. They also save more money manage it better. Men also have many options to work... they can be CEOs or offices [sic], or they can work on construction. Women would rather work in office jobs or not work at all. As a soon-to-be leftover man, this is BS. Older men are terrible at adapting to new technologies and hierarchies. I'm a business analyst for a SaaS consultancy, and it's incredibly difficult to get buy…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:48 PM
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This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:02 PM
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what event did eliminate the Theory of "the importance of having game"? "Game," which doesn't need to have nefarious connotations, only works during in-person, social interactions. A guy cannot be funny or charming in a vacuum. Prior to the normalization of apps, hetero women were generally open to conversing with strange men in ostensibly social venues like bars, concerts, dance classes, ect. Since apps allow women to filter out men whom they deem physically unattractive prior to any social int…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 02:43 PM
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These events are memorable to me because I was displaying behaviors that are intrinsic to bars (speaking to strangers, occupying counter space at a crowded bar, ect.) and getting cited for causing distress. For me, the issue is that I didn't do anything. When I was kicked out a bar, it was for making eye contact with a woman and asking how her night was going (while being half Asian and beneath her league). That was it - one sentence. In the crowding instance, I was waiting for my drink after op…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:54 PM
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I've referenced this event multiple times in my comment history - it was a radicalizing defining moment for me, and back in 2012 to boot. I was with a mixed-gender group of friends who questioned the bouncer, but I was so embarrassed that I asked them to stand down. For the record, there was no physical contact, blocking her path, ect. I was sober (first bar of the night, and I was trying to work off approach anxiety). I've also been accused of "crowding" someone while waiting for drinks at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:30 PM
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[A]re many women settling for men they find unattractive? Or at least, dating men they don’t find unattractive but don’t necessarily find attractive either and would really prefer to be in a relationship with one of those more desirable men that most women are going for? I've witnessed several relationships with dynamic, yes. Two divorces and a DBR so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:57 PM
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Good luck finding grant money for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:54 PM
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this idea that most women welcome being interrupted on an errand in certain circumstances for a cold approach It's not that most women are welcome cold approaches whilst going about their daily affairs, but that certain men are capable to eliciting positive responses in the majority of instances where they attempt a cold approach. Like empresa_josefina, I have witnessed my conventionally attractive friends pull it off (with a barista, and with patrons at a bookstore and at a bodega). Being conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:51 PM
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You're telling me that something that cannot affect you is thereby inconsequential. Thank God some vestiges of the patriarchy remain to protect British men from your ilk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:06 AM
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Found Rep Santos' throwaway account. God bless him, he's even misgendered his partner to keep the constituents happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:47 PM
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Me arriving. I get approach anxiety really bad, so I try to start making them while I've still got some semblance of mystery (a new face) on my side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:42 PM
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When you're needing to do a web search to think of one time this thing that always happens so much that every man is scared of it happens, you might want to rethink. Nah, some US law firms specialize in Title IX (the statute that, rightfully so, imposes specific measures against students convicted of sexual assault) defense. Most families don't have the resources necessary to locate evidence to exonerate their son (99.9% of the time, the plaintiffs are women and the defendants are men).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:56 PM
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I must say, I've never heard anyone call anyone else a creep for just asking them out a single time at my uni. It happens. In December 2012 (i.e. pre #MeToo), a patron managed to get me escorted out of a [Washington] DC bar for "making people feel uncomfortable." While the bouncer never ID'd my accuser (which is common sense, I don't blame him for that), I'm pretty sure it was the only woman I approached within minutes of arriving. No physical contact was made, and she didn't even respond to my …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:45 PM
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Lol, she's still a fiancé (wedding is a few months out), and the last within her friend circle to get married. Not sure how much evangelizing she is willing to do at this point. I'm just grateful that the BP holdouts in my life can hear it from the heifer's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:05 PM
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What do you think the guys in the two buckets have to do differently both buckets: Geomaxx - The working-class guys might be better off moving outside of the DC region, which attracts highly-educated (i.e. post grad experience) women who refuse to enter formal relationships with less-educated men. However, they'd have to rebuild their books of business. The ethnic guys would be better off in their cultural homelands, although they're mostly 2nd generation Americans and would suffer the same cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:47 PM
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My social circle (late 30s men spread across the Washington DC metro area) contains a large number of home-owning, job-having perpetually single men. They fall into two buckets: phenotypically undesirable: South or East Asian (I'm hapa) or short socially undesirable: working in trades (specifically HVAC, electrical, warehouse) As a former math tutor at a community college, I'll concede that male students are pursuing college degrees less frequently than their female peers (saw that firsthand). T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:08 AM
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This absolutely happens - got kicked out a bar for asking a woman how her night was going. Obviously this was an outlier event: I just lucked out and got a bouncer absolutely committed to customer satisfaction for certain patrons - regardless of whether or not their allegations were plausible, let alone true. Peep my comment history for more details. And here's where "ugly = creep" starts ruining lives: USC and LAPD threw the book at Armaan Premjee because they agreed with his accuser that a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:44 PM
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[What do RP men think about] deadbeat dads who don't have any contact with their kids and/or don't pay child support? I'm fine with court-ordered paternity tests, wide-ranging searches for absentee fathers, and immediate wage garnishment for men who abandon their children. I also support audits on how said child support payments are used, including real-time monitoring of the custodial parent's smiONE (the leading child support debit card) account. Child support goes to children, not TJ Maxx or …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:29 PM
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^ Case in point, u/Barneysparky.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:17 PM
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I don't envision you as a purple anthropomorphic dinosaur...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:09 PM
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Has OP confirmed that he does, in fact, present as 'autistic?' A lot of amateur psychologists on here diagnose offending het male voices as neurodivergent, usually as a proxy for a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:07 PM
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I'm absolutely astounded that the past does, in fact, matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:05 PM
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OK, I hope you get it soon. I respect you for doing what you need to in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 10:15 PM
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[TDLR: asshole non sequitur] Why do het female voices choose usernames that imply a relatively employable profession ("engineer" for instance) and then participate in tons of PPD conversations during traditional North American business hours? If they are actually practicing said profession, how do they have so much bandwidth to contribute to PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:14 PM
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This NPR story deserves its own PPD post. TDLR: LA lawyer lady spends $6K on a matchmaker to meet someone who was a regular at the same bar as her, and during the same time period. "How on earth did she miss him?" you might ask. The answer comes out in the broadcast's transcript, which Morning Edition forgot to screen for blackpill content. As [Kat] McClain told host David Greene: I don't think we would have met if not for [matchmaking company Three Day Rule]. I think - I had a weird dating app …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:28 PM
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would much rather be lonely and rich than romantically fulfilled but poor, but it's just sad Go to r/divorce or r/survivinginfidelity if you're feeling lonely. As for money, if it cannot buy you happiness, I know a great convent in Haiti that could use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:12 PM
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Given your comment history, I'm assuming that you are a cis het woman. If so, thank you for being so transparent pulling back the curtain in your initial rebuttal. Hopefully the men who need to read it will get the chance to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:14 PM
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Indeed, being an undesirable person is a moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:06 PM
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She would still pull taller than that, my guy. It takes an exceptional (in every sense of the word) woman to recognize a short king.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:29 PM
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I've had a couple female coworkers transfer from the Bay Area to the DC offices; it's fascinating to watch them recognize how much their bargaining power has shrunk along with the local gender disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:26 PM
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He will probably have trouble in New York City. If he's conventionally attractive, he'll clean up anywhere. I know plenty of SJW types in DC who are banging a Heritage Foundation-type guy on the DL. Dudes complaining about not getting play because they are openly conservative are just average (or worse) looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:19 PM
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DC here. We've (I'm hapa) got to choose better too, even if that means geomaxxing or going monk mode. Bring on the bots!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:09 PM
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I don't hate the player or the game: if I had to share a partner, they might as well be the hottest one I could get with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:56 PM
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Maybe they’re single because these are extremely bare minimum traits that 10-year-olds have? Not all 10 year olds are white and 6'+ tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:50 PM
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Pretty much the composition of the "7-min pack" in my running meetup. We do get a couple former DI women on occasion, but they work in a reference to an SO within minutes of meeting us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:47 PM
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It's definitely harder for men to find comparable partners in cities where women are less willing to settle down and/or enjoy pay parity with their male peers (which is overdue). Judging from my own (large) social circle of college-educated, mid- to late-30s friends, the women were content to join soft harems while they worked on their careers and attended grad school. When they started pairing off in their early 30s, it was with looksmatches (i.e assortative mating). While I am not privy to par…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:40 PM
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As a woman who is a believer in women's rights, I'm not even allowed to comment in red pill women's subs. I got banned the first time I tried. That's because those subs are modded by women, which proves u/SoldierExcelsior's point that women are comfortable silencing dissenting voices in online spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:19 AM
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A man who is ugly needs a great personality(or something about them) to compensate. From what I can tell talking to short kings IRL, short gets the same results as ugly. See Table 5.5 from this study for how they can compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:17 PM
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That is, you should open a new thread where we can talk about "conventionally unattractive male approaching a woman" The title of the post is "Being confident, but unattractive, will get a man called creepy". OP's got this one covered and you have some goalposts to move. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:05 PM
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You pretend that OP said this See Use #1. What is this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:56 PM
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OP is stating his view (which I share) that [An unfamiliar, conventionally unattractive male approaching a woman] is perceived as a threat because he is breaking 'social' conventions by disregarding the invisible-yet-strict world of sexual hierarchy as he refuses to stick to his place. This perception, combined with the justifiable interest of ensuring that women experience bodily autonomy, is shrinking the number of opportunities for such men to introduce ourselves to potential partners. Homeow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:42 PM
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Thanks to streaming video, we're (conventionally unattractive men) all one nuclear rejection away from the #1 spot on r/PublicFreakout.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:25 PM
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all the unattractive confidant men that do fine My largish wolfpack of homeowning, gainfully employed, and fit STEM/ricecels beg to differ. We're nearing 40 and the only one who ascended did so by wifing up a single mom (who's wonderfully self-aware).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:22 PM
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Happened to me in 2012 (i.e pre #MeToo). Walked into a DC bar with a group of friends (mostly male, but also some of their SOs) and asked a cute brunette how her night was going. No touching, no blocking her path of escape. I got a wordless about face, so I went over to the bar to make an order. The bouncer taps me on my shoulder and asks me to leave the establishment. My entire friend group protested, but I asked them to pipe down and complied with the bouncer's request (they left shortly there…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:45 PM
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Your account is four days old, you're posting exclusively on PPD, and you use the term 'pornsick'. Just own it ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:59 PM
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but in no way shape or form does "wanting this" involve them wanting to teach men how to get LAID Where does OP mention "getting LAID?" OP is wondering if mothers of Gen Y/early Gen Z sons are concerned about their cis het sons' marital prospects: Why is her perfectly well raised, pleasant faced, nice and relatively safe but soft son just having NO luck with women whatsoever? There’s nothing wrong with him? It's ironic that a presumably radfem persona like yours is the one focusing on exclusivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:35 PM
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No mutual attraction, lol. And I've also gotten some nuclear rejections from Black women IRL. Stacy comes in all shades!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:36 PM
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The 'pump-n-dump' is the logical conclusion of men working through their approach anxiety with Group B women in preparation to engage Group A women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:26 PM
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Mothers generally want their sons to become happy, well-adjusted adults. Successful romantic relationships (hopefully like the one that resulted in the sons) are a hallmark of a rewarding life. Watching a child (of any gender) fail to achieve this milestone is a painful experience. If you talk long enough to parents of a special needs child, they will acknowledge that the looming prospect of no grandchildren hits hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:17 PM
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Speaking as an American-born hapa with full Asian male cousins born in the US and in Western Europe, our moms know exactly what's wrong with us: Asian guys are a last resort in the West. My cousins and I are all 5'8 or better, college-educated, middle-class salaried or better, and reasonably fit (3-5 pullups, healthy BMI, OCR finishers). Our problem is that we expect our female equivalents to be interested in us, or at least respond to our overtures in a bar or during kickball league. They don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:00 PM
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Why don't you see more mixed groups that aren't couples hanging out after college age? They exist among rec sports enthusiasts: running comes to mind, but also stuff like CrossFit and tennis. Of course, these sorts of communities are only accessible to folks with the time and resources to participate: a guy working in an Amazon warehouse on the overnight shift is out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:48 PM
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Didn't know about Costello. Grace Kao is a sociologist at Yale who's been doing scholarly work on this phenomenon. I cite a broad review of her research thus far here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:34 PM
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Just because you get "icks" from a nerdy, socially inept guy doesn't mean a woman 8,000 miles away might actually feel some attraction towards him. Transactional relationships aren't for everyone, but if both parties enter one consciously and in good faith, who are we to criticize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:07 PM
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Lol, I'm a hapa and my comment history is saltier than the Dead Sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:00 PM
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Excellent take. It hurt to read. I'm guilty of this, as are some of the folks I cited in an earlier comment about geomaxxing. I guess this means they do possess a sense of base entitlement...around non-American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:15 PM
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As our friends' experiences demonstrate, romantically unsuccessfully American men do not blossom into dark triad supervillans once they get an opportunity to live the Chad lifestyle (albeit overseas). Instead, they just pursue the lifestyle they had worked towards the whole time: date and marry a nice lady who weighs less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:06 PM
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What percentage of current 'nice guys' do you think would adapt negative Chad-like tendencies if they found themselves in a position of having a Stacy locked down and excess female attention on top? I have no idea how to quantify it. Here's my anecdotal experience: 100% of my friends who geomaxxed got married and appear to have stable, loving relationships with their wives. 2 taught English in Korea and brought home Korean wives 1 worked as an expat in HK and brought home a Dutch wife 1 taught E…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:43 PM
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if you're good enough to be someone's ejaculate and evacuateee / nut n boltee but not anything more then does that mean their league is higher than yours & your standards are too high? It means that if you want to keep having intercourse with men of that caliber, you must brace yourself for this kind of 'aftercare'. If you want to be taken out on dates, introduced to friends, remain confident in his monogamy ect., you'll have to find someone less desirable. Plenty of women make peace with cum du…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:05 PM
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Is it possible to kind of fake attraction? One of the magical things about being a man is that with enough deprivation, we lower our physical standards to almost zilch. Think about sailors on shore leave or felons who just got released from prison - they're open to anything anyone with two X chromosomes (or at least presenting that phenotype 😉). Like his het female counterparts, a het male cannot fuck, let alone court, a woman to whom he is completely unattracted. That said, plenty of us harness…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:14 PM
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OK, that does sound like theocracy/Handmaid's Tale kind of stuff. That sounds like a shitty time in your life and I'm glad it's over. But guys like him are in the minority, I assure you. "AFC" = Average Frustrated Chump
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:03 PM
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Getting noticed and getting dates are prerequisites to a successful LTR. Fuckboi friends can foster mutual attraction, while AFCs (like me) are often stuck at the starting gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:00 PM
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We watch our fuckboi friends in action, mostly to learn so we can experience a fraction of their abundance. And unless we're attracted to men, there's a much lower chance of halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:54 PM
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my ex had a low count and cared way too much about women’s n counts How exactly did this concern manifest itself? I'm almost always the partner with the lower n count. Sex partners who stuck around long enough to broach the subject lost respect for me on the spot when I answered their experience questions truthfully. I'm sure a lot of AFCs are jealous of the sex lives their looksmatches get to experience (guilty of it myself). However, we also get punished for our lack of experience - which does…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:49 PM
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Get some real experience RP is most useful for men struggling to gain experience in the first place. A lot of BP advice is quite useful for maintaining a romantic relationship (practicing empathy, making a conscious effort to listen, respecting boundaries, ect.). But starting one is the barrier to entry for experience. Of course, one could go the starter gf route (where you're objectively her best option, and both of you know it). But that would violate BP tenets (see preceding paragraph). EDIT:…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:38 PM
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I disagree with pretty much everything else you contribute, but this makes sense. Most of the successful (i.e. decade+) relationships I've seen in my social circle started looking like marriage material within a year's time. OTOH, my own LTRs were prolonged because the prospect of looking for a new partner appeared too daunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:46 PM
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Have you tried going after a starter gf instead? It's just "giving someone a chance" (as women on here are fond of advising romantically unsuccessful het men) for a prolonged period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:41 PM
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LTR = relationship lasting at minimum 8-12 months TIL I can tell women I've been in 4 LTRs instead of just the one! I was using 24 months as a baseline for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:38 PM
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The original OKCupid was a great platform for letting potential partners who you are because it permitted long-format profiles. Tinder, aping Grindr, changed all that. Also, thank you for your service. I suspect that you and your less photogenic comrades have been successful enough with women because our society appreciates what you do and why you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:32 PM
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I'll never know what it is like to be short and ugly, but when I was in the military, I had short, ugly friends who never seemed to struggle with women. I think it has something to do with the idea that being in the military teaches you how to bond with people and express yourself through both your strengths and vulnerabilities. When did you separate? Once app-based dating went mainstream among hetero Americans, dating dynamics changed dramatically. Apps changed women's tolerance towards spontan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:24 PM
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I'm working on not putting value judgments on other people's actions. Absent incentives to the contrary, we do what feels good. Men and women will be a lot crueler to one another if when we remove all the guardrails.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:58 PM
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It's healthy to expect rejection, particularly in a romantic context. Some of us (like me, a late 30s cis het male) have more experience with it than others. Rebuffing advances from a person who was expecting the opposite feels amazing, which is why some women love dropping nuclear rejections. Lifefuel, in cel parlance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:23 PM
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This was probably his first relationship, in which care he didn't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:19 PM
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No complaints from me. I think that performers and crew should be compensated for their efforts - the fact that piracy runs rampant in this sector with little expectation of reform is distressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:42 PM
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women between 18-24 Thousands of Redditors were able to comprehend that 18-24 refers to a BMI range. I even wrote "when you're (woman, man, whatever) under 30." What makes you so bad at reading English? only someone who hasn't fucked a lot of women Yes, having sexual relationships with women gives men inherent value. Are you some sort of self-loathing inc3l?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:09 PM
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this is made up bs I wish. Brandon Stanton has been doing this for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:56 PM
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Men here often express that they shouldn't have to wait any longer for sex than another guy did, or that they resent when women give the best of themselves to other men. Isn't that the textbook definition of expecting to be treated like a Chad? The textbook definition of 'being treated like a Chad' is getting a woman's best when she's at her best physically (and it's a hell of a lot easier to maintain a healthy BMI (18-24) when you're under 30). Most of us salty guys already know we're Billy Bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:25 AM
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Louis C.K. writes some 🔥🔥 dialog when he isn't showing his 🍆 to non-consenting female acquaintances. Realest monologue ever delivered by Sarah Baker (link starts at 3:40).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:50 AM
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They want to eat earthworm from a fisherman works as a euphemism as well as a metaphor
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:00 PM
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A lot of women have given up, too. Mostly because they would prefer remaining single to a) coupling up with a man whose education and accomplishments pales in comparison to her own or b) coupling up with a man towards whom she can muster little physical attraction. Both of which, I might add, are perfectly legitimate reasons to remain single. I live in an area full of STEMlord males. They're my colleagues, my gym buddies, my sparring partners, and my neighbors. I'm nearing 40 and more than half …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:33 AM
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I don't think you would have much luck finding a happy, well-adjusted hooker. Can't vouch for their happiness, but some SWs are allowed to use Reddit in their spare time. I think women are largely just concerned with who is in their life and who they have their eye on, not some large scope marketplace with all these different values to barter with. Start here. In a 2020 paper, Restrepo-Echavarria (et al) acknowledges that while our model has a multitude of applications beyond the marriage market…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:55 AM
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throwing out shibboleths is part of the fun
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:23 AM
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anyone on the outside looking at this sees it as embarrassing and sad Looking at what, though? I thought women don't even care about our existence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:19 AM
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incredibly pathetic don't even care about your existence at all bunch of ugly reject inc*ls Thank you for proving his point. He knows that his behavior doesn't matter, which is why he feels comfortable doing it and then discussing it with other internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:10 AM
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Unlike other folks on the RP spectrum, I disagree with the notion that a high-N lifestyle correlates with a woman's lack of self-esteem respect. For most of my Stacy-adjacent acquaintances, it's a flex because it is fun and they didn't perceive a threat to their value in the RMP (as in LTRs and marriage). And for the most part, it worked out for them. When I was asking about 'respect,' I meant 'could you respect a male partner who has failed to be as sexually prolific as yourself'? My own experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:18 PM
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OK, since you identify as a high-N woman (and presumably have female friends with similar lifestyles), is my take about the lack of respect wrong? My sample size is only three legit Stacies in the DC area.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:43 PM
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A self-aware PPD contributor who puts out is attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:36 PM
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sup
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:30 PM
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Yeah, I agree that these people do exist. I don't believe the "no more crazy nights - I matured" narrative for a second, but if Chad has been treating her like trash (i.e. behaving with abundance, [over]using dread game, ect.), a high-n woman can learn to appreciate an amicable and consequently less prolific guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:33 AM
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You both get along great, she's an incredible woman. Can cook, clean, makes good money, great sex, no diseases, healthy, right age for you, good family, intelligent.... BUT, she had a history of sleeping around. In this scenario she is totally monogamous and not going to cheat. Sign me up! I would love to be married to an incredible woman who clearly enjoys sex! And btw, dope Stacies with high n-counts do exist. If she's in my demographic (late 30s, large East Coast city), she's either already o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:23 AM
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Late 30s cishet male here. I've been in DC, erstwhile home to RooshV and Roissy (née James Weidmann), since 2010. You could tell that their respective readerships were cresting during the second Obama administration because of the number of scuffles that I witnessed (or got into) in bars populated by late 20s to early 30s folks - a bit removed from the "salaried frat boy" meme. Going out during Years I-III of the Trump Administration proved far less eventful in this regard, despite the increasin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:05 AM
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