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There's no real solution to the birth rate problem in a modern, liberated western country Birth rates are high in impoverished nations because it's the only way to ensure your survival in old age - you have kids so they can take care of you Additionally, in these societies, it's very rare that the whole family (or even half of the family) is working, so there is plenty of "free labor" lounging around the house to help take care of any kids Honestly, to "solve" the issue, you'd have to take 10 st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:29 PM
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Just don't tell them their favorite celebrity, without a doubt, uses makeup, shoes that increase height, etc And if you already smashed before she realizes, she can have her coming-to-jesus moment of "did I really just pump and dump this guy because his tibias are a few inches shorter than I'd prefer". Wouldn't feel bad for her lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:51 AM
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"Over time" is too vague of a statement imo. Personally, I know if I'm into you within a month or so. Humans are not very complicated. I have platonic, not-ugly female friends; it's definitely possible, but never have I developed feelings like 6 months or a year in. That seems crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:51 PM
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You can find $400USD/mo condos in the city center all over Asia, especially here in Southeast Asia. They're simple concrete structures, made cheaply usually with simple features and little to no insulation, designed to be knocked down after 30 years. Would they pass inspection in the US? No Are they "forever investments"? No But they house people and are actually affordable. This idea of a house being a "forever investment" that can be passed down to your children is uniquely a Western thing, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:36 PM
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How to water down the word "rape" to the point where it undermines actual rape victims 101:
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:17 AM
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Never heard that, but go off. "Out of hundreds of millions of men, there are 0.01% that hold this creepy, incorrect opinion" - you, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:24 AM
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Stupid creeps pontificating that women are at their most fertile and should “breed” and marry at 16. I thought studies have shown you are most fertile like 20~22? You are projecting a bit here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:46 AM
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That's interesting. You: sex devalues and degrades women (according to men) Also You: We live in a world where sex devalues us. Sure in a completely different universe, things would be different. But we live on earth in 2026. Women (coffee emoji)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:24 PM
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So if sex doesn't devalue and degrade women, and the man uses a condom, it's a reasonable equivalence then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:19 AM
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But it doesn't come up in discussion because women condemn other women for exploiting younger men, whereas men support and encourage other men to exploit younger women. I can't think of a single case, ever, where I personally heard a woman condemning another woman (in my own personal life) for dating a much younger man. I'm sure there are "examples on the internet", but sorry, 99.9% of women are not condemning this act. However, it's very normal and typical to condemn a 65yo man dating an 18yo g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:29 PM
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I quite literally live in SEA but go off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:09 PM
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Hahahahah yeah you know nothing about Southeast Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:23 PM
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I literally said "not @ you" Western women, I swear lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:29 PM
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Ah, yes, I forgot I chose to be short. Thanks for the insightful comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:25 PM
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Emphasis on "old" for me. Every time I fly back to the US, I look around and it feels like everyone is already on their death bed. Going from a median age 26 to 40 country is insane reverse culture shock. I don't know if "evil" is the right word either. Western women don't need men, straight up, and the dating market reflects that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:21 PM
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Lol, not @ you but I find it so funny Girl goes to southeast asia and fucks a local -> i don't hate it Dude goes to southeast asia and fucks a local -> disgusting loser from back home passport bro who can't get any pussy in his home country so he flies to SEA to fuck 3rd world women (but he has to pay, too, because even those women hate him) Or...maybe people of both sexes don't decline the opportunity for a fun time when that option is presented to them.. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:15 PM
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By "foreigners", are you referring to the local Asian girls? Your language use here is strange and implies you've never actually been to Southeast Asia before, no offense. And yes women in those countries don't basically date around hahahahahahahaha confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:25 PM
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I was responding to the argument "it's easier to get women in 3rd world countries because they're extremely poor" - while I admit having money definitely can help if you want to go that route, it's completely unnecessary. I would have an easier time hooking up with an Indonesian girl with a family net worth of $1M+ than a random 5/10 American girl, no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:21 PM
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A westerner who spends 180+ days a year in a non-western country If you go to Bali for 2 weeks and fuck some locals, whether you're a girl or a guy, you're not a passport bro; you're just some tourist. I pick on Bali in particular because there are plenty of women going there and hooking up, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:53 PM
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Listen, I've been in Cebu for a long time. I've watched it transform from effectively all Grandpas to many young professionals with my own two eyes. I've watched the nightclubs go from zero white guys, ever, to a meaningful amount (and good looking ones), every weekend, to the point where you now have legitimate competition if you're looking for a ONS. This is materially affecting some people's sex lives. Also, to claim places like Tacloban or General Santos are "more desirable" than Manila or C…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:49 PM
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Challenge level impossible: Get everyone to agree on a single definition of the term "passport bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:13 AM
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Of course it varies. "Not all women", etc. But in my experience, like I said, a majority are genuinely interested in dating foreign men, and a minority see it as a prostitution opportunity. I'm very good at sniffing out the difference, but I know some dorks are more easily fooled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:10 AM
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Maybe 20 years ago what you said was true, but ever since covid, there are a lot of younger men who are doing the whole "geographical arbitrage" thing as the amount of full remote/WFH positions is obviously exponentially higher than pre-covid It's actually materially affecting the dating market over here, too. A lot of the Grandpas are getting pushed out of the most desirable areas (Bangkok, Manila, etc) because younger, hotter, more affluent dudes are flying in and taking all of the 10s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:55 PM
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Sure but if you're so down bad you can't even swing the plane ticket, you have bigger problems than women tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 PM
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Yeah but becoming a PPB is barely "work". Getting the money for a nice sports car is not easy, 'getting rich' is not easy, but finding $500 to buy a plane ticket is honestly not that hard The real reason, they're scared. It's a lot easier to stay in your American suburb than to navigate life in Saigon as an American with zero Vietnamese or understanding of their culture
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:41 PM
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Idk man, I've hooked up with some seriously affluent Chinese and Indonesian women who could probably put my family's net worth to shame
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:33 PM
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This is so patently false. Do you know how many Pinays I've hooked up with as a white guy who were being "sponsored" by some Grandpa, usually LDR? Too many to count. I never gave them a single peso nor did they ask. Plenty of one night stands. Also had a few who told me straight up they just wanted me to impregnate them. Countless told me they aren't interested in "tiny dick Pinoys". The Philippines is a wild country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:26 PM
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As someone who actually talks to these women every day, they absolutely do care. The amount of women who have said shit to me like "I want a foreign man but not Indian" is freaking off the charts. On the transactional side, it's hit or miss. A majority of the girls I've dated have actually never asked me for money, ever. They know the stereotype and want to prove that it's actual attraction. The girls who just want to escape poverty are the ones who are "dating" dudes old enough to be their fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:20 PM
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Whenever I make a comment "actual PPB here", I get a bunch of young men in my DMs, all clearly dreaming of leaving but none who actually have. The ratio of wannabe PPBs to actual PPBs is quite crazy. They all have an excuse as to why they haven't bought the plane ticket already, though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:14 PM
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Firstly, I personally define as "passport bro" as someone from the West who spends 180+ days outside of the West. That being said, yeah, not really. Genuine desire both exists in West and outside of it. PPBs leave because Western women are insufferable, the economics are generally better elsewhere, and are genuinely interested in the different culture(s). There are western women who still genuinely desire me to this day. Not interested. People who leave their home country only for pussy end up b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:08 PM
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Depends on their goals, like I said. For a casual thing? Trust me, the millionaire men aren't stupid; they know where to find the poor girls and how to impress them. And not everyone necessarily looks or acts rich, you know. I know people with 10M+ net worth who hang out in 'towny bars', for example. You'd never know, though. But for something serious, leading to marriage? Yeah, they stick to their class, of course. You don't want to take your girlfriend to a wedding of your socioeconomic circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:19 PM
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I mean, kind of? Socialization Kind of true, I guess, but being ugly but well-adjusted socially will not save you from being rejected from the hot chick. Step 1 is "don't be ugly". Assuming you pass Step 1, yes, having a good personality can help you. Attractiveness You are vastly underestimating this. Sorry, but genetic physical attractiveness is 80% of it, in my opinion. And I'm sorry, if your parents are 5'2", you are going to do poorly in the dating market (relative to others) regardless of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:57 PM
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Quite bigoted and ill-informed of you to assume, just because it's a majority muslim country?, that "their culture doesn't allow women to speak out"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:40 PM
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I'm 5'4" with no muscle, my friend. Pretty funny I got downvoted - to whoever that was, I'm sorry my personal real life experiences offended you. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:49 AM
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actual PPB here I find that the men who left their home countries purely for the dating aspect of it almost universally end up back home, typically within a few months, but none of them last a year. You "get your fill", post-nut clarity kicks in, and you realize you actually like your home country/culture/language and find some excuse to fly home. It's a solution, for sure, but not a long-term one unless you're also leaving for other reasons that make it more rational to commit to such a huge li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:47 AM
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After fucking plenty of women who don't even speak English, yeah, I don't really think so. If anything, having a communication barrier makes women MORE horny. "the accent", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:00 PM
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Maybe not on the first, but if not by the third, sorry she's just not that interested. There's a guy she will fuck by the third date, guaranteed, but maybe that guy isn't you. Although I do think about the guys who had to "wait" when I got it right away. Poor guys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:51 PM
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That's the whole point - precisely define "piss-splattered toilet". A single microgram of piss? Or 10mL splattered around? Or any objective number in between? How scummy is the bathtub, objectively measured? It's indeed arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:05 PM
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Obligatory "Western" women caveat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:04 PM
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I'm including online/Tiktoks/whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:40 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but they don't say anything. Not every majority muslim country practices Iran-style sharia law - there's no consequences for saying "I hate men" in Jakarta, for example, yet I've never heard of even a single woman doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:48 PM
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What I meant is that women like this are virtually every women. "Yaaay I get to date a random average dude with a horny penis​, how good do I have it... ​ew" is mainstream and uncontroversial. Men have no choice but to take it IF they want to date women. Caveat: Western* / Westernized* women Women in South Asia, Southeast Asia, Middle East, Africa do not act like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:37 PM
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This is what women don't understand. Most men aren't born with or grow up with "red pill" ideologies. Most men grow up listening to their Mom, watching Disney, and being told if they are "good" people, girls will like them. But then that doesn't work. The kind, caring, attentive guy gets no female attention in high school. He has eyes and ears though: he sees boys treat girl like shit, yet they seem to still flock to him without a second thought. Then the blue pill worldview is shattered. Why do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:07 PM
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...ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:39 PM
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It's not about money. They want to "experience Europe" through you/osmosis. It makes no sense, but that's how American women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:01 PM
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It's the accent bro. It's always the accent. Also, American women glaze Europe hard. They think it's a magical fairy tale of high quality, free everything. And a European man walks into their life? Why not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:53 PM
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Women seemingly love foreign men, anywhere in the world. If you're a conventionally attractive white dude from Europe, let's be real, women are 'easy' everywhere in the world, minus your home country, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:46 PM
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There are other 'infamously conservative' countries, like the Philippines and Indonesia, that have crazy high birth rates. So that's not it, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:45 PM
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Singapore's GDP per capita is higher than the US and they definitely treat their men better. As for religion, they're mostly Buddhist, so that's not it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:15 PM
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Both the "gamer" and "gym rat" labels are huge spectrums, though Do you want a guy with no ambitions in life and spends 18 hours a day playing World of Warcraft? Probably not Do you want a guy who goes to the gym 4 hours a day, 7 days a week, and wouldn't hesitate to cancel a date with you because leg day is more important? Probably not Also, do you really want a man who's never home? An extroverted, social butterfly who is constantly meeting new people (both men and women) every week? Who has p…
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/26 03:59 PM
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The data doesn't support this. Young American women are more single and having less sex than ever before, confirmed via polling. I would say most men try IRL / their circle first, and when that clearly fails, they rely on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:13 PM
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It's definitely not "car culture"; even in low-birthrate Westernized countries that aren't super car dependent (think urban Japan) it's still insanely male skewed on OLD apps Western men would definitely date without their phone if that worked, but you can step into any setting where it's socially acceptable to cold approach women (bar, nightclub, whatever) and it's ~80%+ men, and the few women who are there are virtually never there alone / with their partner or "girls night" (and not wanting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:09 PM
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I figured out very early in life that the worse I treat women, the more interested they are in me. Downvote me if you want, I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:23 AM
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Actual PPB here, AMA I guess Passport bros for people who don't know are men who go to other countries to marry their women because women in their countries don't meet their standards or they don't meet the women's standards. Usually but not always. I would argue anyone doing geographical arbitrage full/near-full time is a "passport bro". This could be purely financial (working onlline and lowering in your COL) or for women/increased sexual opportunities. Quality of women is decreasing in west. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:49 PM
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Still clickbait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:14 PM
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Because you are click-baiting. You make a post "Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work", but then you backtrack hardcore in the comments by saying "yeah generally height and money and genetic attractiveness matter nearly always but at the individual level [blah blah blah]..."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:02 AM
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Again, who disagrees with you? Of course they're probabilistic and context-dependent. Who is arguing otherwise? I feel like you're arguing against ghosts. You are making extremely obvious and basic statements that no stable person with a triple digit IQ would disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:27 AM
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Congrats, but men are wired differently; trust me, there are plenty of men who would pick a harem of casual hookups on rotation over a single committed, married partner. They might not say this part out loud, but the biological urges point in that direction for many for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:16 AM
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Yeah, no shit? Who are you arguing against, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:14 AM
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Well yeah, of course, that's how statistics work. ""Most stalkers or people who commit sexual harassment are not [literally insert any minority here]""
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:26 PM
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Just thought 'men have more leisure time' was an odd jab. You can man hate all you want, I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:20 PM
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As a guy who's 5'4 and has traveled the world, I find it particularly interesting how I get pretty much nowhere in the West, but as soon as the plane touches down in Asia / South America / Africa, I guess suddenly my "personality" increases 100-fold. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:18 PM
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Women don't need to go to the gym. They just need to not overeat
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:07 PM
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People don’t choose partners, friends, or opportunities based on one thing. They look at a mix: personality, confidence, humor, values, how someone makes them feel, and many other factors. There’s no single “top trait” that always wins. I've banged enough women who don't even speak English to know this really doesn't hold weight. Women will say all of these things matter, but in reality, there is nothing a 5'0 balding Indian guy can do or say or have that will make the average Western woman swoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:05 PM
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Just like the K-shaped economy we're in, some will give up and go full NEET and others will be constantly trying to out-compete each other. Anecdotally I really think both extremes are increasing in popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:53 PM
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Majority of women are definitely not going to the gym on a regular basis lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:48 PM
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OP is doing online surveys for small amounts of money and is in her 40s... Sounds like a larp
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/26 03:21 PM
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Yeah that's wild and definitely not normal
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/26 06:59 PM
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Had it happen to me in my condo's elevator before...Don't even have to get off the property lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:59 PM
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If you're 5'1, neurodivergent, and ethnic, no amount of "self improvement" is going to make you attractive to the average woman. It's time to say some people simply got shafted coming out of the womb and there's nothing they can do to make a meaningful difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:31 PM
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If your mom taught you to put women on a pedestal, you will eventually realize that women don't like this, and the "worse" you treat women, the more attention you get - obviously, this can swing too much in the other direction where you're just being a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:41 PM
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I guess I should of clarified; I've fucked women who don't speak English without providing any sort of "support"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:25 AM
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How is that relevant to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:16 AM
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After fucking women who don't even speak English, it's hard to say that "personality matters" materially
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:40 PM
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If you're 22 and in pre-med with this level of English comprehension (assuming you're a native speaker), please don't operate on me Regards,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:49 AM
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("man comment") I would say it's less about the number and more about the man feeling proud being with you, proud to show you off to his friends family etc. You claim you were way cuter at 25, but also say people call you a young Megan Fox, which seems a bit contradictory. In any case, you seem to still be very attractive, so I don't know what you're worrying about. From a man's POV, yes the 21 year olds might objectively be the most attractive physically, but then you're dating a 21 year old...…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/26 09:37 PM
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You are correct, but the only people who understand geo-arbitrage dating are passportbros; everyone else is in the dark and clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:49 AM
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The difference is, majority of actual PPBs would agree with OP, and the majority of Western men are not in alignment with your experience. Congrats on the success, but anecdotes are not what we are discussing here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:30 PM
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I can buy therapy and healthcare. I can't buy freedom. But congrats I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:17 AM
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So what? That doesn't change the fact that many, MANY women on dating apps aren't seriously looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:12 AM
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Yup. Freedom is nice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:11 AM
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If that's what you need to tell yourself so your world view isn't shattered, sure, I guess. In my example where the Pinay I knew intentionally get impregnated by that Canadian guy, there was absolutely no exchange of money or resources of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:10 PM
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I've had prostis offer to fuck me for 1000 pesos ($17 usd). I've even heard of cheaper No point as I can easily get laid for free, but yeah, shit's wild. Sad, really. I feel bad for those girls. They rarely spend the money on themselves, either - it all goes back to the family. See my earlier "extreme pressure to support" comment...The family turns a blind eye because it can literally be this or go hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:36 PM
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying how things are. Personally, I've had my fun and don't mess around like that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:29 PM
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There are many many laws in the Philippines that are not enforced. I guess I should of said effective child support laws. I am not aware of a single case where a Pinay single mom successfully petitioned for child support against a foreigner no longer in the country. I guess they exist, but for 99.9% of single moms, this process is not realistic for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:27 PM
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Of course. What's the actual statistic? 2% turn over rate for men and 2.3% for women? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:22 PM
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"I don't have sex in the first month" pretty much filters out those guys, especially if you just disregard the 8/10+ guys who get ~90% of the attention on OLD apps. But again, women don't care to find real relationships on these apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:12 PM
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Look at some of my other responses in this thread - there are no child support laws in many third world countries, so there's nothing to "trap". Plenty of western guys go overseas, impregnate 3rd world women, and fly home with no consequences. It's morally wrong and disgusting but it happens all the time. It also happens on purpose - I know a Pinay girl who intentionally became a single mom with a Canadian guy - she was even tracking her cycle and had him come over only when she was ovulating. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:01 PM
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Most just have no idea how to use them Nah, women definitely understand they can window shop for a boyfriend on Hinge just like they can window shop for a handbag at the mall. They just choose not to, or use dating apps for fun/to kill time, not to actually find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:47 PM
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I really feel sorry for my short South Asian bros. It's a dog eat dog world out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:38 PM
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Luckily, at least in most of the US, both genders have access to concealed carry? Reminds me of one first date stemming from online, that was going well and I was driving her home, she light-heartedly mentioned how she's scared to meet men and her Mom asked her to carry a knife. I kind of just laughed... Feel free to downvote
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:32 PM
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OLD has really shifted things more than what most people realize, and Gen Z truly has been put in an unprecedented dating environment Very young women have more access to established men in their late 20s / 30s than ever before. Before OLD, your social circle was your pool. Now, an 18 year old girl can chat with just about every single man in her zip code. She can shack up with a silicon valley tech bro making $400k/yr. Why should she date her peer? This leaves young men to get shafted. Yes, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:00 PM
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Eh, as a man even if you're a genetic god with a shit ton of matches, a lot of women aren't "seriously looking" on dating apps, treating them like other time wasting apps like the OP mentioned, and there are plenty of women who won't sleep with you on the 1st date no matter how hot you are. It's not the same experience as being a hot girl at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:28 PM
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There are no child support laws over there, so no, it's not really being "baby trapped". Plenty of western guys impregnate women in 3rd world countries and walk away with no consequences. It's disgusting, and I could never morally do it, but it's absolutely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:23 PM
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"Like" this app? That's an understatement. I guarantee you there are a subset of men who would pay $4k+ USD/mo for access to this app if it actually existed. Men who would divorce their wives for access. Men who would estrange their children for access. An app that instantly enables a man to fulfill every biological urge they have, something that many men have struggled with their entire lives, would feel more significant to them than curing cancer or adding 10 years to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:19 PM
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Doesn't even need to be a thought experiment. I've experienced both sides of this coin. As a very short white guy (bottom 5th percentile) but otherwise quite successful in life and no other physical or mental "flaws", who has experienced Tinder both in a major city in the US, where I would get maybe 3 matches a week (mostly overweight girls and single moms), as well as Tinder in Manila, Philippines, where I was getting 100+ matches a day, I can say with a high degree of certainty that the latter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:08 PM
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For most, 18-23 For some, mid 20s
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/26 06:46 PM
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Are you drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:32 AM
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"The best sex of my life was in a toxic relationship with a predatory man 30 years my senior" ...How can western women logically reconcile this? Was he a predator, or the best sex of your life? It cannot be both
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:23 AM
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This whole conversation is a moot point though, as passport bros don't give a shit whether or not westerners think what they're doing is "okay"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:21 PM
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No response lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:21 AM
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How do you "fix" culture? It's going to take a generation of deeply unsatisfied men to grow up and give their sons the experience they never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:34 AM
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If you can’t get a woman in America or Britain, you’re probably not going to get one in Colombia or The Philippines or Thailand Hahahahahahahahaah Tell me you've never been to SEA without telling me you've never been to SEA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:40 AM
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Eh I don't think that if you're an interesting person overall, your children are inherently more likely to be an interesting person too. There are plenty of interesting people with boring as shit kids Yes, medically, perhaps if you're more timid that's genetic, but that's not what we're really talking about here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:46 AM
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Of course; I'm simply explaining why genetically successful men get (at least some) women even if they are unsuccessful in every other aspect of life. They don't have a 100% win rate, of course, but it's also certainly not zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:40 AM
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At the end of the day, lizard brain wins - brain want man with best genetics, brain get man with best genetics (tall, white skin, good face/jawline, good hair etc). Why let a subpar man (genetically) potentially breed you? Note how "having a personality" is not on that list - "having a personality" doesn't make it's way to your sperm /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:13 AM
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What do you expect women to do about the male loneliness “epidemic”? I think everyone, both men and women, should raise their children to not be afraid to talk to strangers, not be helicopter parents, and both encourage and support them in building large friend groups and an overall network. Hot take (I guess) but I also think rural and suburban environments really stunt children's social growth as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:57 AM
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What I find really interesting is that the whole "male loneliness epidemic" thing is seemingly strictly a first world western society problem. I spend a lot of time everywhere and I've never heard of just a regular young man in Southeast Asia, for example, struggling sexually the same way young Western men are. What is preventing boys in SEA falling into this "blackpill" trap? Are they just magically more extroverted or applying these "common sense" rules? I don't think so, and in my opinion, We…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:57 AM
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I educate myself on Chinese geopolitics. Does that mean I have to take action regarding it? Simply knowing what's going on in the world is a good skill to have, and your argument really comes off as "I can't be bothered to learn anything unless it's directly affecting my life - I am consciously choosing to be ignorant"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:41 AM
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I wouldn't say they're "confused", rather they don't care and there's no incentive for them to educate themselves on the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:30 PM
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No thanks to what? Getting graped? Because thats not how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:59 AM
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Don't hype up the good spots too much...The last thing those places need are more twenty-something broccoli haircut guys
/r/TheRedPill06/10/25 07:24 PM
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A couple of things coming from a guy who is shorter than you: You should be working out for the psycho and physiological benefits anyway; if it helps get girls that's just an added bonus The no friends thing is a bigger red flag than being a virgin. There are plenty of people who are virgins but a much smaller pool of virgins with no friends. There is something else at play here. I would recommend focusing on building a circle of friends first, which may lead to getting a GF, but even if it does…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/25 02:38 PM
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You missed the entire point. There is a clear relationship with being developed and fertility rates dropping, and there is a less clear (but still statistically significant) relationship between undeveloped countries and their respective birth rates being higher, on average, than developed countries. It is an undeniable fact that undeveloped countries have a higher birth rate, on average. We can run around in circles and say "well it is/isn't because of X" or "but what about edge case country Z"…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:46 PM
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If we dont want to cherry pick countries, some less developed countries have low fertility rates, but ALL developed countries have low fertility rates. Sans Israel perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:13 AM
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All true statements
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:04 PM
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Both are effective, it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:21 PM
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Ever heard of a violent felon who's a virgin? Me either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:49 PM
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One could certainly argue men are biologically driven to desire the most fertile women possible, which is like 16-24ish Even in countries where age of consent is like 12, it's not a common thing. Men don't want to fuck prepubescent children (minus the mentally ill edge cases) even if it's legal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:07 AM
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"Just because I jerk off to gay porn doesn't mean I'm gay bro" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:00 PM
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Material, not marital.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:56 AM
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So if I trade a gold bar for a ticket to pound town, all good; not prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:52 PM
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Nah, it's pretty cut and dry for me. If you spend a majority of your time outside your home country for geo-arbitrage reasons (COL, women, taxes, anything) - you are a true scrotsman in my book. I said visas were not a significant consideration when recommending countries. Then they are playing fantasy land and aren't actually long-term travelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:49 PM
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That's a sexpat, not a passport bro. You have to worry about visas, it's not an optional thing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:43 PM
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Both Japan and Korea actually have decently sized expat communities (ex-military, english teachers) but they tend to skew older and are less prevalent in the online/millennial/reddit/social media space. Huge nightclubs where young locals are mingling with foreigners just isn't a thing the same way it is in BKK or MNL Also FYI, Vietnam doesn't really have a big "PPB" community either for the same reasons Another quick counter-argument would be BGC, Manila - popular "PPB" destination yet the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:35 PM
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What I specifically want doesn't really matter, it's just funny to me how people love addressing the extremes and ignoring folks in the middle because it's much more nuanced addressing that segment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:27 PM
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There is a whole spectrum of men, especially young men, between "genuinely looking for love" and "women are material assets to exploit". You are acknowledging the extremes and ignoring the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:29 PM
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Slavery??? What crack are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:25 PM
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There's no evidence that westerners are going to Thailand to fuck children at any rate that's above the regular child sex abuse rate (i.e., no positive correlation) To claim that MOST "passport bros" are doing that is a completely unhinged take I would like you to cite your source
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:37 PM
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If you can’t get any girls back home then that just means it’s the money and the US citizenship that’s doing the heavy legwork for you. The woman probably doesn’t want to sleep with you but feels it’s the only way she can get out of her shitty situation. I’m still somewhat fine with this as long as you treat her respectfully and get her a citizenship so she can leave once her time is up. Eh, I get like 3 matches a week on Tinder in the US, and 100+ a day in Southeast Asia. I definitely don't nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:34 PM
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You said: The only cases I’m okay with are ones with decent SMV so they’re able to pull back home but they’re still able to get better options overseas Implying that if men meet some sort of arbitrary threshold of getting women back home, then they're "allowed" to go overseas to get a hotter girl, but any man who doesn't meet this threshold is a creep/predator/whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:08 PM
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There’s a lot of Asian women who live in the US so why not just date them if what you’re saying is true? ...Kind of? If you ranked every county, I'm sure the median county (in terms of Asian pop) has a 1% Asian population at best. Assuming you don't currently live in California - if you're willing to move to CA to bag an Asian girl, why not just keep going west and actually check out Asia? Also, besides for the Asian look physically, half of the appeal is the non-Western attitude. You'd have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:02 PM
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You genuinely go from a 5 to a 7 and that makes a massive difference. In my experience, you go from a 5 to a 9, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:55 PM
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So if you don't have decent SMV, you deserve to die alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:54 PM
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How is that a counter-argument to his point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:52 PM
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Weird take. Unable to hold down a job for long. Most of them, in my experience, are actually quite wealthy (the older ones) or working remotely (the younger ones). The amount of hostel/backpacker passportbros are few and far between. Want evidence? For every backpacker hostel, there are 20 fancy resorts "for foreigners". Poor social skills. I cannot express to you how hilariously wrong this is. Maybe you have absolutely no experience with the average modern youngish guy in the West. Anger issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:51 PM
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What self exploration isn't possible if you're in an LTR, exactly? And what does being "young and single and having fun" exactly entail? Getting showered in attention from hordes of men because you're prime breeding material? Getting passed around from guy to guy? Do looks not matter when you get older? If you were married for 30 years and your husband gained 500lbs, would you be ok with that? Do you think being "young and single and having fun" doesn't imply business transactions too, even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:38 AM
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Whoops, you said the quiet part out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:07 PM
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Well the OP is “your geography dictates your dating”, which is true, but not really in the way OP thinks it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:16 AM
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If you think moving from Chattanooga to LA is a “drastic” change to your dating life, never visit Manila or Bangkok. You probably couldn’t handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:01 PM
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Just dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:45 AM
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Other times it's because they do want to date, but women's standards are "delusional." Western* women's standards The truth, I suspect, is that the men who do have successful social lives aren't posting online about it, so you're left with the ones who don't and they largely seem to believe dating is a video game that they can beat from their couch if someone would just tell them the right cheat codes. I would argue there are plenty of men who have social lives but their hobbies / friend group m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:54 PM
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Moving goalposts. The only person who used to word “everybody” is you. When people say women do X, they mean in general, not that 100.00% of women do X.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:42 AM
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What’s your point? The fact that 95% of women and maybe not 100% align with that OP said doesn’t materially change his argument
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:33 AM
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The problem with this argument is that actions speak louder than words, and the tall dark handsome smut is the most popular by far When a smut fiction book with a short statured love affair becomes more popular than 50 shades, I’ll eat my hat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:51 AM
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I have the unique experience of being on both sides of this coin As a successful but very short (5th percentile) white guy from the US, I get maybe 3 likes per week stateside, but 100 likes per day in Southeast Asia (Philippines, Indonesia etc) Being on the "sending end" is traumatic: you send tons of likes every day, try to send thoughtful opening messages, just to be treated like you're nothing and there are loads of "better men" a single swipe away, and it's not even worth her time to acknowl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:27 PM
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There’s maybe 1 foreign man for every 1000 local women in many of the common PPB countries, and even less elsewhere - to think “the market will get saturated” is hilarious at best. You’ve clearly never been to Asia, no offense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:58 AM
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side-hustle / youtube ad revenue. interest the PPB lifestyle has blown up since covid created a shit ton of WFH jobs, and the "crazy nightclubs and hookups and fuck western women" videos simply get a lot of views. many dudes watch those types of videos but never actually leave. there are plenty of PPB vloggers in more modest countries, but they just aren't as viral. but I would argue the people interested in those videos are the ones who could actually survive as a PPB long term a legitimate des…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:50 PM
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So again, you're putting value on the act of having sex. Transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:02 PM
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Eh - from what I've seen, if they left only for women, they're back home within a month or two. Those dudes don't stay even if they build their harem or whatever. Moving halfway across the world to a completely different culture and environment is a huge lifestyle change most aren't willing to do long term just to land a girl (or girls). You have to have a legitimate desire to travel and experience other cultures with the dating advantage just being icing on the cake - all long term PPBs I've me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:00 PM
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Actual Passport Bro here If you're paying for play in a developing country, you're either doing it way wrong, or you're a 50+ yo dude who wants to bang girls who are 18/19 (gross but common unfortunately) If you're the average, typical white American man on Tinder in Thailand or The Philippines, for example, expect to get 100+ likes per day - and to think all of these women are prostitutes is laughable at best I've dated plenty of women in developing countries who insisted on going halfsies duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:51 PM
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The pragmatic solution gets downvoted, as usual. American women butthurt I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:26 PM
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There are plenty of engineer/programmer types who make 6 figures, sometimes deep 6 figures who still struggle with dating. Sure they can afford prostitutes but it's foolish to think paying for a woman to pretend to find you attractive is a realistic replacement for real attraction. The other point is that most of the guys struggling aren't the typical college athlete from a genetics perspective - they may be very short, ethnic, poor jawline/hairline, etc - no amount of making money or going to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:24 PM
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East Asia, including China, Japan, and Korea are all westernized at this point. You can throw Hong Kong and Singapore in there too if you'd like. While not "western" countries from a literal geographic perspective, they're very westernized culturally, and that's my entire point. Countries that have fought against getting sucked into the western mindset do not have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:10 PM
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China is not in Southeast Asia. Have you ever looked at a map before?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:56 PM
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I sure have. I don't see men in Southeast Asia, for example, struggling nearly as often as Western men when it comes to getting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:46 PM
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If you're looking at it from a global view, OP's claim isn't very accurate. Are non-western men struggling nearly as much as western men? I haven't seen any evidence of that. It's an economics and culture thing, not a biological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:11 PM
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Yup agreed. I think negative reinforcement is a real thing here. If you compliment an attractive woman, she won't remember you nor the compliment tomorrow. But if you find a reasonable way to criticize her? She never forgets that shit. That criticism (and you by extension) will be stuck in her mind forever. And as they say, no publicity is bad publicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:12 PM
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I've definitely noticed the shittier I treat women, the longer they seemingly stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:29 AM
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We all know that's essentially not a thing, so in no realistic circumstance do you have any pity towards men? You need therapy, not a Reddit debate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:26 AM
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uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:25 AM
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You avoided the question - in what situation do you feel bad for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:55 AM
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So you're just naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:55 AM
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Older man seduces younger woman = groomer, taking advantage of her lack of life experience Younger woman seduces older man = still then man's fault, he should've known better So OP - in what situation do you feel bad for men? Or is this just a "I hate all men" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:50 AM
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The mental gymnastics you're doing here is hilarious "waaah all men hate the concept of consent!! they're all misogynist conservatives and women don't post or upvote on Reddit!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:48 AM
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It also has a massive upvote count of 3
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:10 AM
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American women, sure, but I'd love to hear your argument on how a woman in a remote province in Cambodia doesn't struggle with dating We throw around the term "women" a lot here when we really mean "western women"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:05 PM
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Even removing all of the men entirely, a majority of the women in this thread haven't agreed with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:01 PM
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Eastern Europe is mostly westernized at this point, so I would lump them in the same bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:54 PM
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"Build a shit ton of sexual tension first then use all of it to ask some consent questions" You do you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:50 PM
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ITT: OP gets a little dose of reality and realizes she's in a much smaller minority than she thinks But I really want to argue against this part in particular: Women from around the world have echoed this. I've been all over the world, and I can assure you this whole "explicitly asking for consent" thing is exclusively a Western woman thing, and really mostly white liberal women - if you are hooking up with a woman in a non-Western country and you start explicitly asking for consent, I can virtu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:48 PM
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This Tiktok really encapsulates how insufferable the average American woman is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:52 PM
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It doesn't have to be - "date to marry" is very common in non-western countries and you can K1 someone if you'd like. I know it's not ideal but that's life - I wish I was born the son of a Saudi oil price but here I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:49 AM
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-asks for advice -gets solution -"no, i don't want to try that hard" k. good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:42 AM
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I mean a disability can range from anywhere between the most minor of inconveniences to someone who is effectively a vegetable. You refused to specify your disability (which is a bit telling by the way), but I'll say that there are definitely guys who have neurological disorders like autism who've been able to find simple, honest partners in countries like The Philippines. I think the language barrier helps to "mask" some of the psychological differences. She'll eventually catch on, of course, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:30 AM
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there aren’t really that many good opportunities for a young man, particularly a post college age 23-29 yo young man to meet people. Sure there are, but they all require a plane ticket to a non-Western country. To answer this directly though - this is by design. These women don't want to meet you. If I'm a hot 22 year old American woman, why would I want to shack up with a 23 year old dude who's really just starting out in life when I have men in their late 20s / early 30s who have established c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:08 AM
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It has nothing to do with who cares about her more. The fenny dealer is exciting. Every day will be a new situation, chaos, different shit keeping her on her toes. She'll have a rollercoaster of emotions. Screaming at him one day, loving him the next, worried about him the next. She craves that. She wants that. Her upper middle class suburban lifestyle is too boring. predictable. safe. just like sandwich guy. Is the fenny dealer a net negative to her life? Of course. But it's exciting. Does fenn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:57 AM
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Agreed - I think both (straight) men and women struggle to maintain same-gender friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:43 AM
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So 5'5 men can't complain about 666 if they occasionally get table scraps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:25 PM
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5'7 isn't that short. You know there are guys who are 5'2, 5'3, 5'4 who experience true prejudice? While everyone is entitled to being attracted to whoever they want, you will never experience what it feels like to watch someone lose attraction to you in real-time by just looking at you, before you have the opportunity to say a single word.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah, no shit you've never struggled with women. If a lot of the dudes who complain about 666 were you (physically), they wouldn't either. You carry a level of privilege you can't even comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:11 PM
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Dude, you are (or were) 666. You're taller than average, have/had abs, etc. You think you're in the bottom 50% but in reality you're in the top 20%. The dudes who are complaining about 666 are 5 foot 4 with average but respectable jobs, are average weight but not ripped; the true bottom 50%. These guys aren't bums and can absolutely be protectors and providers, which is enough to get a non-overweight honest woman everywhere in the world except for 1st world western countries, but western women's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:43 PM
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You're not short and in great shape, which is the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:12 PM
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If you want to reduce your downside risk, you either don't get married at all or get an ironclad prenup. Essentially your argument is "there's always a risk of your woman cheating and taking everything, so might as well make her work and pay for some of the bills while she's still around" which I guess is logical if you're already married, but it's shitty backup plan #3 if you aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:05 PM
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What you said really applies to marriage in general more than having a SAHM. I would actually argue that having a wife who works is even a higher risk of cheating as she's almost guaranteed to be around other successful men all day every day, especially if she works a white collar job. Some of these men will flirt with her, guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:25 PM
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Yes, being white in places like Southeast Asia certainly doesn't hurt your SMV. You're also correct they assume any and all Western foreigners are "rich", and while most certainly are by local standards, no one asks or cares if you make 50K usd or 500K usd. It's all lumped into the "rich" bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:17 PM
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I'm definitely not, but I also understand why someone who makes $35k/yr or whatever can't comprehend that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:28 AM
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It's mostly average income men thinking more money will solve their problems, and very high income men explaining that money doesn't buy genuine attraction, and one could absolutely be a 7 figure incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:33 AM
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I never said it was common. You said "everyone is in FANG, doctors, or lying". Which is easily false. 150k is like top 10%, not top 1%. It's not crazy rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:29 AM
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Unapologetically spamming/shitposting. I respect it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:25 AM
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Because that's not the topic of discussion, at all. It would be like me talking about a random podcast on a completely unrelated thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:23 AM
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This isn't r/jobs, it's PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:49 AM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:49 AM
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Yeah, it's called working with people who make a similar amount of money as you... besides being ugly "waah why aren't these tall white rich dudes getting laid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:49 AM
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Really funny how most people here are more interested in learning how folks make 175K rather than why they're still single at 175K income
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:46 AM
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The point is that in a vast, vast, vast majority of cases - high net worth individuals can't get a girl because they're ugly/short/brown, not because they don't have game or are socially awkward. You completely missed the mark
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:44 AM
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They will swarm him, realize he's not neurotypical, then immediately fuck right off. The dangerous guy is also much more willing to go to jail to protect his woman, which clearly does something to turn on the lizard brain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:41 AM
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Is being short and/or brown considered "grotesquely ugly" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:18 AM
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Moving goalposts this fast? You already went from "FAANG or lying" to "isn't that common"? Lmao dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:14 AM
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This thread must've really taken OP on a ride on the realities of Western dating in 2024
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:12 AM
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There's a huge difference between being creepy and being dangerous. Felons are more sexually successful than non-felons (by a large margin, btw) - there is a huge swath of the population who would rather date a broke felon with "rizz" than an autistic dude who makes 300k
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:11 AM
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Well, that was the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:04 AM
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Just as a data point I'm shorter than you (and make more money than you) and absolutely agree. Only American/Western women though. Overseas - I get more attention than a 21yo hot chick stateside, and that's with me trying my very best to hide my wealth. I guess my "personality" takes a nosedive as soon as the plane touches American soil. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:04 AM
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You're just proving my point even more. Even consultants are pulling in six figures now. A middle manager is the guy managing the consultants...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:58 AM
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When did I ever say most people? This was your claim: lying or exclusively know people working in FANG or doctors. Mostly lying I think. Which is laughably incorrect. Even outside of Big 4, I'm sure some middle manager at Accenture (who alone employs like ~1M people, btw) is in the 150K ballpark too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:56 AM
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If you're very short (< 5'6") or an ethnicity not commonly sought after (Indian men complain about this a lot), you can absolutely struggle regardless of your income level or social skills. If you have any other undesirable genetic traits on top of that (balding or just plain ugly) you can absolutely find yourself in a loneliness black hole despite clearing 200K or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:47 AM
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Would that work on you? Some mid tier guy flashing pics of his car, house, and watch on his Tinder profile? Or maybe that would only attract deceitful attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:31 AM
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Dude any middle manager at a Big 4 consulting firm is pulling in at least 150k now. It absolutely does not require you to be in FAANG, finance, medical, or even a 1st tier city for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:29 AM
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I would argue that MGTOW is more geared towards rejecting modern western women and marriage while 4B is about using sex as leverage so women can get what they want. The average guy who considers himself MGTOW would probably still cohabitate with a conservative province girl from Southeast Asia and the average woman who considers herself 4B would probably still have sex with a conventionally attractive man who can prove they're a long term Democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:31 AM
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I don't think a black piller would disagree with anything this dude said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:43 PM
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Hate to break it to you but it's very easy to weed out an OF girl. That shit messes with your head
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/24 03:06 PM
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Yup you can talk to them, but you're also damn sure her friend won't let her go home with you. I've watched bros get cockblocked from getting a number before
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:02 PM
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You think I haven't done that? Nice restaurant bars are exclusively older women, and college bars people only go to in groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:34 PM
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Why are you stuck on this bartender thing? I'm not talking about tending bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:04 PM
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No, not working as a bartender. Just a regular patron. I've been to hundreds of bars across America, and this idea that some 25 year old woman will be sitting at the bar, alone, waiting for someone to talk to her, is the biggest myth there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:32 PM
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What American bar is full of lonely and horny people? I'll fly there tomorrow. Every bar I've been to has been: Friend groups who went to the bar together who have zero interest in talking to strangers Old men going to the bar alone Postmenopausal women going to the bar alone I've spent plenty of time in bars and I can count on one hand the amount of single women in their 20s who wanted to be talked to while alone at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:07 PM
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This is an odd take. What 2nd tier city has "no proper activities" but some 3rd tier city has an "endless amount of activities"? The premise makes no sense. Also, there is no city in the world that is "mostly under 24 year olds". I don't think a city could even function with majority < 24 year olds. I also suspect, since you decided to not name these cities, you know your views are not based in reality as someone could objectively poke a lot of holes in your argument if you simply named these tw…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/24 10:48 PM
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If anything, they're more critical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:26 PM
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The amount of delusion and cognitive dissonance you need to have to think shacking up with domestic landwhales is more respectable than fit, feminine, and nurturing foreign women is absolutely next level
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:49 PM
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Chubby chaser thinks PPBs are pathetic Hahahaha someone screenshot this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:42 PM
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Moving abroad for a job opportunity or the prospects of better economic prospects What you're describing isn't really a PPB, moreso an immigrant or temp worker...PPBs are doing this inversely - they're taking their existing western WFH job, and working from a country where COL is 10x lower and pocketing the difference. OR they have some sort of passive income that's enough for a low COL country but not really enough to retire in America. $500USD/mo gets you a middle class lifestyle in many parts…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:39 PM
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Better economically, better socially, better dating wise. Pretty much better everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:25 PM
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There are a ton of western men married overseas. They're generally just older and not posting on Reddit. Most of the dudes in their 20s aren't actually dating for marriage, and don't actually PPB full time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:23 PM
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No, it makes a supply and demand problem for non-obese men looking for non-obese women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:19 PM
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Eh, PPBs get asked the "why?" question nearly daily and inevitably, western vs eastern women comes up I know actual PPBs and it's usually economic reasons first and foremost, with women being a distant 2nd. If you PPB just for women and don't give a fuck about the local culture and way of life, you won't last more than a month or two. I've seen it countless times
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:20 PM
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I don't think it's an ego problem moreso that women are the gatekeepers to sex and relationships, and as modern western women don't "need" men anymore from economic, security, or social standpoints, there's a natural supply and demand problem. What does a career woman in her mid 20s "get" out of a long term relationship, exactly? They're deciding the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Well, moreso, there is no juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:53 PM
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A majority of adult American women are overweight or obese. Obese alone is nearly a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:47 PM
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I could explain in further detail but I don't think you actually care, nor is it worth my time. There are tons of American vloggers in Eastern Europe/South America/Southeast Asia. If you actually care about this topic you can self-research
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:46 PM
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No, not really. My life is 100x better overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:56 PM
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I assume we're talking about the ones who've actually done it, not wannabe-PPBs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:55 PM
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6'1 is not normal. 6'1 you're taller than ~90% of US men. Even 5'10 is above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:28 PM
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Do you know how much effort it takes to move halfway across the world? How much effort it takes to learn a new culture, potentially a new language, and a whole new way of living? Figuring out income sources that will work abroad? Do you really think these men put in zero effort in their home countries, and just one day decided to put in a shit ton of effort to uproot their entire lives? No, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:20 PM
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There have been numerous studies on this. For every inch below ~5'7, dating becomes exponentially more difficult. You have no idea what it's like to be a 5'1 man. Is dating impossible? No, but no one claimed that it was. You have no idea what it's like to ask out 100 women and 99 say no. You have no idea the mental toll and self-esteem hit that would do to someone. So before you cry and call everyone else losers, maybe you should check your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:15 PM
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How does a 5'1 Indian man "put effort" into being not short and not ethnic? These two immutable genetic traits alone will dissuade 90%+ of his potential partners in the West. You are taking a very privileged stance, likely as a tall or average height neurotypical white guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:54 AM
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This is the sad reality of the 5'1 Indian guy. Sometimes, life isn't fair and there's nothing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:20 AM
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Ah, yes, I forgot about all of the Fortune 100 Boss Babes getting shot down by the janitor. They must be intimidated!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:52 AM
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Trust me buddy I get more than most, hell, I turn women away sometimes. I post because the absolute gaslighting young men are facing is next level. I, fortunately, am not Gen Z, but to think Millennial/Gen X solutions to socializing are going to work for them, well I have some news for you. It's easy to make empty platitudes like "go out", but there's not a lot of things for young people to do anymore that puts them in situations where they can meet strangers. "Third places" have been getting er…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:41 AM
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Have you ever seen a book club before? It's exclusively retired women. Activities like cooking class, museums, theaters is 99% couples. How many women do you think are going to these things by themselves, hoping a single man also attends and chats them up? Sports? Overwhelmingly men. I know some young single women. Do you know what they're doing in their free time? Scrolling on TikTok, watching YouTube videos, maybe on occasion going to the mall or seeing a movie as a group. NEVER by themselves.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:28 AM
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Fun boomers, maybe. I can't recall ever seeing a Gen Z girl or guy alone at a corner bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:13 AM
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Depends on how fat. Under 40 BMI? Yes, they can get good looking dudes. I've seen it time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:04 AM
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No one mentioned genetics except you. The fact that you brought up genetics, unprovoked, is a reflection of your own biases. I would take a long look in the mirror before trying to gaslight others. That being said, you're probably right that OP isn't overseas, but everyone "isn't overseas" at some point in their lives. It's simply an option to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:44 PM
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I've never even heard of an American woman not dating a European dude because he's European, for example. Under virtually no circumstances is it a net negative. Being of a different culture makes you unique and different, and the vast, vast majority of women are open to experiencing that. There are some extreme examples where cultures may clash (e.g. a Mormon from Utah wouldn't date a Muslim from the middle east) but assuming Judeo-Christian values on both ends, it seems like most women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:41 PM
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It seems like the opposite is true, regardless of country. Even American women, plenty have openly admitted to banging (and even long term dating) European dudes "because of his accent". Then you have all of American women fawning over people like Harry Styles etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:20 PM
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(and let's be real you mean white when you say light skinned) Why do lefties really, really want people to be racist? It's like you're foaming at the mouth at the thought of an opportunity to pounce on somebody. It seems like without a boogeyman, their worldviews don't hold up to scrutiny in a vacuum. Anyway... By light skinned, I actually do mean light skinned. No one in Thailand is going to ask or give a shit if you are of western European descent. You could be a light skinned South African or…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 PM
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In America? Probably not But if it's a remote/WFH job and said man is willing to live in a developing country: Short in America, but not necessarily overseas Ugly in America, but not necessarily overseas, especially if you're light skinned Average income in America, but potentially in the top 1% overseas Bachelor lifestyle and spinning plates with good looking women would be trivial
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:05 AM
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(you might just as well say deployed military parents’ kids aren’t theirs either) Yup. the fact that I don’t make 100% of the sandwiches doesn’t damage my parenting relationship I've spent time with these "nanny kids"; and they have weird relationships with their parents as an adult. To think offing your kid for 8+ hours a day during their most formative years to have no negative impact on your relationship with them is absurd. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:04 AM
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At that point, they're not your kids, they're the nanny's kids (that you're paying to raise)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:06 AM
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....ok? You very quickly went from "You guys were mocking her! I have no sympathy!" to "she's definitely obese lol" Like, weirdly quick. Did you accidentally say the quiet part out loud?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:51 AM
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I don't know this person nor do I use TikTok. Anyway, she's definitely overweight, but not obese. If she went to the club she'd have no problem picking up dudes. By "obese" I really mean 40++ BMI. She'd never "settle" for a 5'5 guy though, even if he made $200k and took care of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:50 AM
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They are valued for being financially stable I know several short (< 5'6), well-adjusted, six-figure dudes who can't get any non-obese American women. On the opposite side, practically everyone knows of a genetically gifted 6'4 ripped dude with tats, in and out of prison, who has no problem getting laid or a girlfriend. The girl will complain constantly about how abusive he is, but she'll never leave him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:03 PM
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Then you you should probably incentivize your local men to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:37 PM
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You're the one who is justifying risking it, lol Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:03 AM
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Not today, obviously; I'm talking in 1-2 generations as SK (and the US, for that matter) continue to deteriorate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:24 PM
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Oh trust me, I know America is on the (hard) decline. I spend less time in this country every passing year. Southeast Asia is fantastic to me, filled with young people and not brainwashed by western nonsense. I can actually walk up to strangers and...talk to them. It's wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:52 PM
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For now, but young Korean men have a stronger disdain for Korea than ever before. If shit hit the fan, I'm not sure how many of them would risk their lives for a country where they can't raise a family, work 60+ hours a week for average pay, deal with quite an authoritarian government, and get taxed out the asshole. Are all of the men going to leave overnight? Of course not, but my prediction is within ~2 generations, SK will not be the powerhouse it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:08 PM
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I'm not talking about historically or even what's happening right now. I'm speculating what Korea will look like a generation or two from now from now based on the current birthrates and immigration trends. What do you think SK will look like in 2 generations if 20% of working age men leave (just an example, you don't have to agree), and Korean families pop out 0.9 kids on average? Not good, if you have any brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:03 PM
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"A Foreign Affair", pretty universally considered the most reputable foreign matchmaking/"mail order bride" service, had pages and pages and pages of them post-war relative to the amount pre-war.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:59 PM
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Yeah I mean if a 5% chance you getting raped & enslaved by a NK soldier is preferable to dealing with your local men, that's your risk tolerance I guess. Sounds pretty kinky to me though. Never really understood why those rapekink subs are 90% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:57 PM
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Women have high SMV for simply existing during their late teens / early 20s, while men have lifelong career commitments to gain the same level of SMV later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:38 PM
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I would say the risk these SK women are taking on is that if their military-aged men leave, China or even NK could easily turn their lives upside down on a whim. The amount of Ukrainian women who went from posh lives to literally signing up for mail order bride websites was pretty wild. But hey, that's tomorrow's problem, just live it up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:27 PM
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The amount of young (late 20s - 30s) Korean dudes I see in the Philippines is insane. Clearly a decent percentage of them are completely giving up on local women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:48 PM
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The fact that someone like OP genuinely could not comprehend why men need to care much more than women is half of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:25 AM
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Gay men universally like boobs? TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:55 AM
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I do do takeout sometimes. Other times, I may just want to get out of the house. It’s not that deep. You also conveniently avoided my previous comment about how my gay friend likes Hooters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:16 PM
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What if my closest bar that serves wings is Hooters?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:09 PM
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Why else would you get Hooters takeout?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:09 PM
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Your "counter argument" seems to imply people go out of their way to go to Hooters, which many do not. You do realize, for a % of the population, their closest wing place is Hooters, sometimes by far? Or is geography difficult for you to comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:01 PM
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I'm not sure which posts here are sarcasm at this point. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:51 PM
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That's weird, because my very gay friend likes to go to Hooters all of the time. I also see all-female groups at Hooters regularly. Maybe it really is just the food. I go to Hooters and certainly don't "oogle the women". I don't even like American women - I wouldn't mess with those girls if they approached me unsolicited. I'm also curious what my "alternatives" are that are the same distance or shorter than Hooters for me (hint: there is none)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:48 PM
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A giant wall of text just to say "Yeah the statistics look bad but if you talk to lesbians and collect anecdotal evidence instead maybe it'll look better" This is the biggest dig-my-head-in-the-sand I've ever seen. Congrats on your master's degree in mental gymnastics. Claiming finances is the super LOL because women are graduating from college at a higher degree than men, and hold a majority of the mid-level white collar cushy jobs now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:32 PM
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I know what study you're referring to; you're grossly misrepresenting the data. The data is that when women own a gun kept in the household, it's more likely for a man to use her own gun against her. We are talking about dating here, not long term intimate partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:23 PM
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Ok, then update your title to: "CMV: Australian women have it harder in dating" This is an Australia problem, not a woman problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:18 PM
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Ensuring my personal safety is more important than the consequences of breaking a law, generally speaking. I wouldn't risk a felony, I guess, but a misdemeanor? All day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:17 PM
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I would recommend everyone, man or woman, to carry a firearm with them for personal safety. This is assuming you are responsible enough and go through enough training to be proficient. You can be a victim if you want, but won't be me. Downvote me, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:42 PM
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Maybe after you graduate High School
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:20 PM
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I am personally not even in my 20s yet and I have had the opportunity to be with guys that can literally drown on money due to “familiar relationships” and I would rather die because 90% of these guys are entitled and irresponsible. I was raised better than that. The jokes write themselves I swear to god
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:27 PM
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then why are they something so many people need to be taught They don't, though? This is nearly exclusively a first world white people problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:06 AM
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I like how we went from "helping young women socialize is good too" to "nuke the idea of gender roles" Yeah, nah, I'm good. I hope your kids turn out ok. I pray for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:39 AM
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RIP u/HTML_Novice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:23 PM
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And this is why our birthrates are waaay below replacement rate RIP America. You were good while you lasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:16 PM
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.....sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:13 PM
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To the modern western woman, agreeable is submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:29 PM
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Based on the "Sexual Encounters, Aged 18-24" chart, it's very obvious the same size here is tiny or something is off. How do 0.5% of women have 3 partners but 16% have 4? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:28 PM
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Preach brother
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:40 PM
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...uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:50 AM
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The point is that you can't prove your virginity, so only a gullible sucker would buy an unverifiable virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:05 PM
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The idea of selling virginity is a joke. Reminds me of Angeles City, Philippines where "mana-sans" (older female pimps, basically) would be selling "virgins" for 100k pesos ($1700usd) The joke was that everyone knew those girls weren't virgins. Only the biggest idiot tourist would take such a bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:28 AM
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I mean America is a big country, but if you're trying to stand out from the crowd somewhere like Los Angeles or Miami, it's certainly not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:17 PM
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Who gives a shit? The liberal cult, unfortunately, and most non-cis women are members. So, yeah, nothings changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:23 AM
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No one said that. Statistically speaking, women won’t date dudes who make less money than them, even if they don’t want a dollar from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:20 AM
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Oh no, there are still certainly plenty of thirsty men still on these apps. I believe most dating apps have a F/M ratio of like 1:3~1:4. Personally, I think more women are finding the risk/reward of meeting male strangers from an app just isn't worth it nowadays. But yes, the dopamine rush is real. Feeling down? Download Tinder and see the hundreds of guys who want to spend their limited time on this Earth with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:19 AM
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People simply aren't getting into relationships anymore. The few who do, yes, may be initiating with an app. Birth rates & just people having sex are decreasing as well. The statistics are out there and they're gloomy. US birth rates are waaay under replacement rate and they're getting worse. Soon enough, we will be Japan; nothing but old people with an extremely burdened economy. I find it pretty funny how Republicans can both be staunchly anti-immigrant and also fend away any boys looking to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:56 PM
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If that's your version of "dodged a bullet bro", you're gonna have to dodge a lot of bullets out there. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:43 PM
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You don't need to tell them your salary, but if you show up in a 2019 Corolla (even if you paid cash for it), they may assume they make more money than you do and it's game over before it even started. Dating is brutal in the West right now and you need to pull all of your cards out to stand out. It's just a fact of life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:11 PM
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Yes. Society is built on the oppression of half of the population. It's honestly the dark truth. Virtually all first world countries where women are no longer oppressed are struggling with birth rates. There are some outliers e.g. Israel, which IMO their strong ties to religion are keeping couples together and having children. This could also explain why states like Utah have the lowest median age out of any state in America. There’s a good chance you’ll get your way in the end, possibly within …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:00 PM
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I'm not advocating for this, but making it illegal for women to work (more than part time I guess?) would reverse this very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:57 PM
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Women overwhelmingly initiate divorces, regardless of N count Do you have peer-reviewed research papers yourself that claim the opposite of what I said? I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:10 PM
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There have been whitepapers proving that women with higher N counts get divorced at higher rates Of course it levels off on the high side; whether you fucked 20 dudes or 50 it doesn't really matter at that point, but statistically speaking the women who had 0 - 2 partners prior to marriage get divorced at the lowest rates
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:06 AM
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It's too far gone to be salvageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:52 AM
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A decent percentage of them, sure, but there are plenty of men who she could shack up with. The reality is that a lot of western women don't want/need men anymore, so the supply and demand disparity is larger than it has ever been. If you're willing to go long term with a man, even "post wall", it's absolutely trivial to do. Denying this is just burying your head in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:34 PM
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The problem they choose to ignore is that men are now aware of this and are refusing to be "the clean up man". Yeah, no, not really. Go make a dating profile for a not-obese 31-year-old woman and let us know the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:19 AM
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Take one of your imaginary dudes and give him fertility issues - is he still hot to you?
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/24 05:27 PM
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Age gap relationships contribute to this the most, obviously. In an online world with dating apps, it's trivial for virtually any non-obese 18/19/20yo girl to find an established guy in his late 20s to date. Turn the clock back pre-internet, and your dating options in HS and College was mostly your peers. You weren't running into 29-year-olds with their own house and sports cars too often back then as a 19-year-old girl. The second part of this is hidden polygamy; a lot of these girls who think …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:09 PM
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If you remove all other factors - say you have identical twins and one is more assholish than the other, which one will generally get more girls? Personally, I've found that the worse I treat women, the more receptive they are to me. /shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:09 PM
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Me oh my, how the turntables! Here we had men talking about how AI girlfriends will replace women and "that'll show them", meanwhile this is happening, in a land where bachelorettes are significantly outnumbered by bachelors, no less! China's dating market is incredibly complicated and full of hierarchies and family involvement. I don't see how dating in your 20s as either a Chinese man or woman could possibly be any fun. And god forbid you turn 27 and you're not married yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:50 PM
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What type of man do you want, and why would that man choose you over any other option he has?
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 05:02 AM
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I stopped caring about western women quite awhile ago. I feel bad for a lot of guys trapped over there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:09 PM
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Fuck the bottom 20%, amirite boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:01 PM
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I’m well aware of Sheng Nu and Chinese culture. Reddit is predominantly American.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 04:25 PM
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If you are a female over 25, unmarried and no children, you arent a woman. Only a fringe minority genuinely believe this, while height requirements are universal
/r/MensRights16/01/24 08:59 PM
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I don't see why turnaround isn't fair play. They go after height, we go after weight. Want to keep playing cause we can keep going. It's not socially acceptable to go after weight. You will get fired, deplatformed, shadowbanned, etc And it's not even a fair comparison. You can control your weight, you can't control your height
/r/MensRights16/01/24 08:58 PM
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They typically don't - the expectation is that it's up to themselves to climb the socio-economic hierarchy by learning high-demand skills, starting a business, etc. To answer the question directly - I would say if you're extremely gifted in the looks department (male model levels), some career-focused women will forego "marrying down" socio-economically to be with you (presumably, wanting her kids to look like you while she handles the education aspect)
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 09:40 AM
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I know plenty of dudes who used to treat women the way their parents and Disney taught them, got nowhere, and it wasn't until they started treating them like shit did they get attention. Clown world Once at a bar with several coworkers, one of the girls was literally told to fuck off from one of the dudes at this bar, and she spent the entire night trying to win him over. She later told me he thought he was kinda hot, but after he shoo'ed her away, it increased her attraction 200%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:34 PM
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If going after a relationship you shouldn’t have to worry heavily about how you act It's almost as if that's what everyone does at first, and for some, that doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:40 AM
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Not once did I use the phrase "good men". It's difficult to speculate without understanding the type of men OP was/is looking at
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 09:32 PM
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I'm not trying to give my personal opinion, rather the general trends I notice from OLD and dating studies If what you were saying were true, OP wouldn't be struggling so much, would she?
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/23 07:02 AM
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It's a big liability for American men to spend time/money/energy on a woman without getting sex because she could be fucking her ex/whoever on the side while getting a free ride from you. This happens all the time, unfortunately The men you probably like have options, none of which involve him having to get married or put in effort into a relationship. Go on Bumble/Hinge and find below average looking dudes who obviously have their shit together, assuming they listed their job title and aren't l…
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/23 12:24 AM
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The premise is your problem. your probability of finding a guy like that is 2% Go create a female Bumble account, say age 22, and pick photos of someone who's like a 5/10 (really, anyone who's not fat and is at least OK looking). Set your filter to 6ft, swipe on the "fit" guys, and make sure you're in at least a medium-sized city. You WILL get matches and messages. 6 figures These women are usually being finessed; the dude doesn't actually make this money but will act like it to get laid Will th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:01 PM
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Well, you got it half right, but it's not "self-sabotaging". They know the tatted-up dark-triad guy is "no good for them"; they do it anyway because he's hot and exciting and Melvin from accounting is boring and predictable, albeit if stable and reliable. Western women don't need stability and reliability from their partners anymore, they have their own careers/homes/lives, they want something that's hot. 50 Shades sells for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:51 PM
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Well, the main thing is height. You need to be at least 5ft11 to be a top-20%er You can check all of those boxes, but if you're 5ft4, you will get nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:17 PM
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None of what you've written here supports your original statement that women don't need men anymore Women don't need long-term committed relationships* with men anymore. I thought I made that clear. ​ Nope. People who shoot up schools have much, much bigger problems than simply being rejected by women. Of course, but it's not just a coincidence that most school shooters didn't have a girlfriend. I'm just pointing out the recurring themes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:43 PM
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When women entered the workforce, it doubled the supply of labor overnight while demand stayed the same, which drove down wages drastically. Women really aren't the ones creating jobs as they generally aren't willing to take on the work/life balance of being an entrepreneur or an executive. Not their fault, they had every right to enter the workforce, but that's a big factor as to why the things are the way they are. Plus, it's not just finances. There are plenty of dudes who make six figures an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:35 AM
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It depends on your definition of "most", but if you polled random men (or women) "Are you happy?", I don't think you'll get a 80%+ response rate of "Yes". SSRI prescriptions have exploded for a reason, and interestingly only in Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:20 AM
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What do you want women to do? Pretend the quality of their financial and social existence is still dependent on her connection to a man? They don't have to do anything. I was simply pointing out why things are the way they are. What about companionship, psychosocial support, fidelity, emotional intimacy, enjoyable sex, protection (both kinds) co-parenting You really don't need a long-term committed relationship for companionship, psychosocial support, emotional intimacy, or protection. Casual re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:07 AM
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Such shit won't go over the same here in the west... Western men are weak and also will not do anything substantial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:59 AM
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Western women don't need men anymore. They hold a majority of the cushy white-collar jobs (excluding management levels), and continue to be a majority of college graduates. And honestly I think management levels being male dominated is by choice; I don't think most women are interested in the work/life balance of being a C-level executive, regardless of the money. They have big friend circles are are more open than men, getting emotional nourishment from their friends and family, and modern conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:03 PM
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You are selectively only looking at young homeowners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:17 PM
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They want a gender pay gap. As long as it's women making more. I'm sure any job she posts that actually pays a living wage will go to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:41 PM
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And the Reddit Men will line up for the privilege of wifing up Chad's used goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:37 PM
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OP is right. Women don't need men anymore. This is why the passport bro movement is taking off. Men, women value you in other parts of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:39 PM
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Yes, people who are interested in you want to take some of your time. What do you want, exactly?
/r/RedPillWomen18/10/23 04:35 PM
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Western women are a lost cause. Head east, boys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:42 AM
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You could make this same argument about literally anything. If you don't want to do something, all you need to do now is find a single instance of when doing that thing ended in a negative outcome, and say "See! Look! This is why I don't do this thing!" People have been stabbed/shot over looking at someone the wrong way. Are you going to pretend you're blind when you go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:43 PM
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As a man, OP is right. Western men don’t really offer anything to the modern western woman. As a man, your only real chance of being appreciated in a relationship is by going overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:16 AM
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She's looking for love but only capable of lust
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/09/23 07:53 PM
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That's how China differs, though - some felonious druggie would be considered bottom of society in China even if he was tall, dark and handsome. Social hierarchy matters A LOT there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/23 12:38 AM
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Generally speaking these women come from very wealthy families and definitely don't need your money. You do need to have money though, as you need to be seen as being in an equal in social status or greater. China is weird.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/23 04:14 PM
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Yup, some of of these women pay 10K-20K to a matchmaker to find a suitable guy
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/23 03:28 AM
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A Foreign Affair has a fair bit. This is a very well-known thing
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/23 07:14 PM
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Sheng nü is actually 27 or older, not 30 or older. This stigma in China is so strong, apparently really successful Chinese women in their late 20s are literally signing up for mail order bride websites so they can at least marry some random foreigner before they reach 27-28. They can't find Chinese men as if she's the breadwinner in China, that's more embarrassing than being sheng nu.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/09/23 02:14 PM
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Agreed. I think it matters to an extent - you want your wife to not look/sound like a fish out of water in formal events, but it's not like they need a master's degree to raise your children
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/23 02:37 AM
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Don't underestimate height + skin color
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:51 AM
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You friendzoned him right at the start, and this is the 0.00001% of cases where a guy was initially friendzoned then un-friendzoned. He wrote you off a long time ago, and anything intimate you do or say he'll chalk up to "best friend comfort" until you flat out say you're attracted to him. I know this from first hand experience to be honest.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/23 03:11 AM
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That guy could get any woman he wanted overseas and they wouldn’t dare disrespect him like this
/r/PussyPassDenied26/08/23 05:27 PM
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Most older men still put you in the "young girl" category until you're in your late 20s, right or wrong. Also very interestingly, some cultures like China even have a specific phrase for this: Shèng nǚ (27+ yo unmarried woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:44 PM
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...yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:34 PM
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Right, but that'd still be a "younger women, older male" dynamic. Unless you don't consider 22-year-old women young.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:06 AM
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That's great, but once you graduate, real life kicks in. Suddenly, those older men with a house/car/boat now seem way more appealing than PoliSci Chad who is now a Jr. Associate at BigFirm(tm) and makes so little he can't even afford his own place
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:48 PM
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So you stopped sharing your location, and he responded by saying you "broke his respect" and he wants to "rethink the relationship"? He's looking for any excuse to leave. He clearly already has one foot out the door. No offense but perhaps you should find a neurotypical boyfriend
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/23 07:58 AM
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This isn't a counter-argument. No functioning adult needs someone else in a developed first world nation. It's a given.
/r/RedPillWomen24/06/23 02:12 AM
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So basically a Democrat. I laughed a bit too hard. Anyway, modern pistols have nullified a lot of this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:23 PM
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This needs to be emphasized. The average adult American woman is borderline obese. If you're 5'5 200lbs, you need a big guy to feel any level of feminine.
/r/MensRights25/04/23 01:43 PM
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Wasn't there a study done that found arranged marriages have basically the same success rate as selecting your own spouse?
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/23 03:07 AM
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I'm sorry that OLD doesn't result in ANY matches for people. My only advice is to ditch OLD, go out regularly, and meet as many male friends as you can to expand your network. Shit, if I was having no luck, I'd get a part time job at a highly social environment like a bar, night club, coffee shop, or retail. This is where a lot of the bitterness you see on Reddit originates from. Women and top 20% men such as yourself get sexual partners/married simply by existing, while bottom 20% need to get j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:07 PM
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There are countless posts on Reddit about men who jumped into online dating and got zero matches. Zero. Not none from women he's attracted to, but absolutely nothing. It seems like short, non-white men have it the worst. Let's just say you're a 5'2 Indian guy - I would venture to guess that ~90%+ of American women wouldn't be interested in dating you just by looking at you, before you even get a chance to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:29 PM
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It may not be specifically male-driven, but the core issue still hasn't changed: There is a growing portion of men who want to get laid but can't. The same cannot be said for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:31 PM
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Having sex at least once a year is a different caliber than considering yourself not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:43 PM
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Statistically though, housewives report higher levels of happiness than their career women counterparts. There are plenty of career women who make it to the top and regret everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:24 AM
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I worked so hard to be 6ft2
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:57 AM
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I find most women who say things like this haven't actually fucked a guy under 5ft5 nor would they ever in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:24 PM
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I did - he has no perspective whatsoever regarding the experience of men who aren't conventionally attractive, and additionally, he's grossly underestimating the amount of men who fall into this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:21 PM
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Unfortunately, I've been out too much. What's being discussed in this thread has already been researched to death and most of it really falls under "mate choice copying". Hot woman dates guy because he's tall/rich/famous/whatever -> eventually breaks up with him because he's an asshole Hot woman #2 then dates him as he was with hot woman #1 so he must be high value, plus he's clearly tall/rich/famous/whatever Cycle repeats and repeats ​ General societal acceptance plays a factor, too - your pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:18 PM
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You're right, only 99% of women will have sex with the conventionally attractive asshole. Women are not a hive mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:28 PM
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Well then, you guys are in the bottom 20% 85.5% of US men are below 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:19 PM
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Strawman. Not every guy who doesn't want to put on a show for 100 girls lacks a social circle. Anyway, I know exactly the type of guy you are. I've been friends with your type before. Women know what you're doing; they can smell the deeply-seated desperation from a mile away. You're the forcefully-extroverted guy who is "friends" with 30 girls but none of them are willing to spend more than an hour a week with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:44 PM
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Sure? Sounds extremely high effort. Have fun dedicating your entire life to finding a single woman who deems you good enough to commit to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:25 PM
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Everything you listed sans the top two are male dominated. Also, generally, people are at these meet-ups to do the respective hobby - not to meet a partner. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if a CrossFit class was 80% women but 70% of them were married. And once you chat the 2nd or 3rd girl up, everyone will think you're there to hit on women and you're not interested in the actual hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:31 PM
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I have a tough time believing if you tried OLD you wouldn’t get a bunch of matches.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 02:58 AM
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It's not that the food quality is inherently poor, rather, both high and low quality food is offered, and many Americans pick low quality. It's cheap, convenient, and tasty - worry about the consequences later. There are plenty of Americans out there who can only spend perhaps $2-$3USD per day on food, practically forcing them to eat low-quality processed food. Try to survive on 2-3EUR per day, and honestly you'd just starve, or have a diet just as poor as an American's. Before someone replies a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:00 AM
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You can continue to sabotage yourself if you'd like.
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/22 05:49 AM
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I'll take that over the typical American diet any day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:16 PM
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Hot dogs aren't really that bad for you on their own, it's that most Americans consume thousands of calories worth of carbohydrates every day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:13 PM
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Obviously the only issue here is your social anxiety - if you approach men instead of waiting for them to approach you, you can solve this problem you have very quickly...
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/22 03:58 PM
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There's plenty of peer reviewed scientific data that contradicts each other. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:53 PM
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raping a 13 yo student. Sigh
/r/PussyPass06/08/22 02:18 PM
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Would you go to *your* festival if it was nothing but fat, ugly, sweaty, greasy men? Of course not. In my opinion, you're being a huge hypocrite here.
/r/RedPillWomen15/06/22 06:31 PM
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2 months ago, you posted something complaining about your 20 year old boyfriend...
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/22 01:16 PM
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Hot guy slides in your DMs = uwu hey boy Ugly guy slides in your DMs = harassment, victim blaming
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/22 03:47 PM
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There's a comfort that women get knowing they're single by choice, and at any moment they can change their mind and get a man. Additionally, being single and having open options has limitless possibilities as a woman. On the inverse, there are men out there that are truly alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:25 PM
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Buy him a single large gift, like a vacation package or a car
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:14 PM
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Very religious communities do not have a majority of the problems in OP's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:19 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:22 PM
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Random strangers on the internet are not your research assistants. People who actually care will look into it, people who don't and are just trying to win an internet argument won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 08:18 PM
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A LOT of women are not single by choice. Hilariously incorrect, and there is plenty of objective data out there out there to reinforce that. Damn, the fucking incel movement was started by bloody women! What was relevant 50+ years ago is not relevant today. An awful lot of men these days are single by choice too. It is much more socially acceptable for men not to really care about a love interest these days. Agreed. Honestly, it's fucking liberating not being judged by society for being single. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:39 PM
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Women are single by choice, so inherently the single women you see are comfortable with it. If you removed all other variables and forced a group of men and women to be single & alone, one side will fare much better than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:53 PM
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You're just proving OP correct - the guys you find cute are going to be high SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:08 AM
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It sure is - there are countless different "no one owes anyone shit" arguments to be made here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:28 PM
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Ok, that's fine - but following the same logic, I shouldn't have to pay any taxes because I'm not accountable for whether or not the homeless guy down the street starves - I don't owe him shit It's the double standards that gets under peoples skin
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:48 AM
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It's actually the anti-2A people who are usually terrible a risk analysis and make decisions based on emotion. A 2021 survey estimated that guns are used 1.67 million times per year in self defense in the United States. There were about 20k murders involving a firearm in 2020. Anyway, if someone wants to hold up the gas station while you're inside and wants to hold you hostage, or someone decides to mug you, have fun cowering in fear; I prefer to have the tools necessary to defend myself. There'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:18 AM
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I think that guns should only be used for hunting You enjoy (nearly) all men having physical power over you at all times? Interesting. Firearms are the great equalizer - it puts everyone in the same power position regardless of race, sex, disability, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:41 PM
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women who had kids are statistically more likely to be impoverished at that age than those who didn't. Causation =/= correlation here IMO - women who had kids statically have a lower IQ as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:58 PM
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Become a prostitute then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:23 AM
2

Well, making 100k and 900k are two completely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:26 AM
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It’s ridiculous to hate someone for their nature. Just understand it and adjust accordingly You could justify some really racist thoughts using this same logic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/22 07:42 PM
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do high value men want their wives to actually work apart from managing household duties There are many people who would quit their jobs instantly if their coworkers quit; the social aspect of going to work cannot be understated. Many friendships and relationships form because of work, and for many people, their entire friend circle originates from working relationships. I wouldn't mind my wife/SO to have a part-time job purely so she can socialize with people other than myself and her family/li…
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/22 09:50 PM
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he did say that he’s a neat freak This can backfire a bit but overall you have a lot of green flags here. Perhaps you could suggest going to the grocery store together, him buying a meal, and you prepare it for him - seems like a fair trade-off to me
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/22 09:16 AM
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What an overly simplistic take. I know many, many guys in their late 20s who are roughly the same as OP - no food in the fridge, eats out regularly. There's a couple of reasons There are plenty of hardworking, single, affluent men who just don't want to cook after working 10-11 hours, and have no problem dropping $10 to get a big salad or whatever after work, even daily. You'd be surprised by the amount of people who spend $300/mo+ on take out, and if you're in a decent sized city, that doesn't …
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/22 08:12 AM
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Not sure rape was the right adjective there, buddy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/02/22 08:01 PM
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The thing with “average” is that, by definition, half of the population has to be below average - that’s a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:05 PM
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Morbid obesity is the actual relevant statistic here anyway - women at 30 BMI can easily find success on OLD etc., at 40+ it becomes a struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:13 PM
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So you knew your argument was wrong all along? Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:08 PM
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I had to scroll quite a ways down to find a real one Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:06 AM
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I don't know a single woman my age who makes more than me. Edit: Just for fun I used a calculator and I would literally be a top 1% earner if I were female in my age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:02 AM
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yoga meetups/classes As soon as you start talking to a single woman it's "he's only here to hit on the girls" volunteer activities with kids etc Immediately flagged as a pedophile (assuming you don't have kids of your own)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:50 AM
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Most men I've seen on dating apps, at bars, at meetups, simply do not. I'm tired of seeing baggy t-shirts and beer guts. I understand women are also overweight, but men aren't any better and they don't prioritize being well-dressed. Obesity rate for women is higher than men but I have money, vibrators, great friends/family, and can go on dates for fun. There's the real reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:46 AM
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It will never decline; simply, the definition of an "abuser" will just widen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:44 AM
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Miami clubs intentionally try very, very hard to not be sausage fests. Group of guys - $60 cover (not exaggerating) Group of girls - free entry + drink coupon(s)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:43 AM
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It’s kinda crazy Is it, though? These women have everything they need - income, security, a sense of purpose - they can hit up Chad on OLD to get their rocks off without the time, emotion, or financial liability of a relationship. If you're some girlboss CEO, why would you lock yourself down with some guy and get the same dick over and over again with god knows what baggage? Unless you're trying to have kids, what's in it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:41 AM
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You say that, but imagine if no gene line ever went extinct during the entire existence of the human race. Humans, on average, would not be nearly as strong or smart as they are now.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 08:51 PM
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out of fear that they will be abandoned for speaking up. To be fair, they probably would.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 08:49 PM
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You forgot the most important things - be tall, and be white. Those two trump everything else you just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:18 AM
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You're the one who said Stop focusing on 0.4% of the thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:12 AM
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Why do you assume they value all 237 things equally? Obviously, physical appearance does matter, and it matters more than 0.4% - if that were true, short obese men would be getting laid much more frequently than they currently are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:20 PM
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When I was 21, I was short Uhh...did you manage to grow at 22+? and simply getting older This can't be understated. Women date men slightly older than them on average, which puts 18-20yo men in a weird spot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:18 PM
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Interesting statistic but completely off-topic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:34 PM
3

The unfortunate curse of being straight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:52 PM
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Also, we both only talk to women. Well, that explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:15 PM
2

Well, as an adult male in the normal BMI range, at no point in my life did I have a harem of 5+ women chasing me. Trust me, we exist. There's actually hundreds of millions of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:41 AM
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If your requirements are more than just bmi and you throw in height, income, fitness etc., you're probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:05 PM
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I'm sure you run into skinny guys trying to too. And if not, spend 15 minutes on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:02 PM
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Lots of guys would love to date their bmi match
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:03 PM
1

Sounds like you should buy a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:05 AM
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Lol, back on topic, anyway...So what's the actual biggest dating hurdle for women, now that I solved the safety problem in one sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:57 PM
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As always, the female problem is easily solved and the man's isn't. If you're concerned for your safety, which you should always be regardless of your gender, you should carry the tools necessary to defend yourself. I know, guns scare-wee, but we're talking about your life here. If only I could buy dates at my local gun shop too....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:49 PM
2

You need to do a point-in-time comparison to get apples to apples results - compare when boomers were age X vs when millennials were age X...Otherwise, of course the segment of the population who haven't been married as long have lower divorce rates
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:50 AM
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who are otherwise non participants in their family life. Myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:40 AM
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Who said I was talking about myself? 50% of all marriages end in divorce, and it's trending worse. The odds are officially not in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:55 PM
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But no one can do anything about it Exactly.....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/02/22 03:09 PM
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Could be an internet socializing that's dividing us Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:03 PM
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"life's not fair" is not a counter-argument and just breeds anarchy Got raped? murdered? enslaved? Aww, life's not fair honey
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:58 PM
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Eventually, you'll hit 40 and you'll be the only man not divorce-raped in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:56 PM
0

To be fair, she never said late 20's, and someone 20-25 is perfectly reasonable. A 29-year-old though, I agree...
/r/RedPillWomen31/01/22 08:15 PM
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Might just be my opinion, but I think this trend will continue to accelerate even more, and these projections are quite conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:08 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/202009/record-number-americans-have-never-married-and-never-will It's trending downward, and quickly - I'd venture to guess most people on PPD are under 40, and everything I have posted is reflecting that specific population.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:00 AM
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The data doesn't support this - looking at the OKC data just as an example, the average women thinks the average man is roughly 2.5/10 - trust me, they're not dating guys who they think are a 2~3. Anecdotally, I see this in real life too - confirmation bias perhaps, but I really want to be proven wrong about this tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:47 AM
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Of course it's a massive privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:13 AM
1

If you think 5'9 guys have the same access to women as 6'5 guys, all else being equal, you need to do some more research. There is absolutely nothing, either scientific or anecdotal, that really supports that theory. I agree that overweight men have it easier than overweight women, however, being obese is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:43 AM
1

Most guys pass the looks threshold 50% of men are shorter than 5'9 43% of men are obese Most guys indeed do not pass the looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:27 AM
1

Top 5% male height = average. [Clown face]
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:24 AM
3

It's very easily testable. Go make two dating profiles, one being 5'3, no job, great face, and one being 6'2, 120k/yr, with a butterface - see which one gets more matches. I guarantee it's the second (by far)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:40 PM
3

It depends on how far away you are from 666...Face can +- 1 point, but a guy with a perfect face but only 5'3, no job etc are still completely unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:08 PM
5

to go to college and get a degree It amazes me that people still think college is worth the time, let alone the money. I wouldn't get a 2nd degree even if it was free. Literally anyone can sit through modern "college" classes - takes no skill or talent whatsoever. The only point of college at this point is so your resume doesn't get filtered when applying for jobs - if you're an entrepreneur, there's literally no point. Why not do part-time consulting work / start your own business?
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/22 07:00 PM
6

I would say 25-30% maybe You have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:43 AM
10

This analogy is too good.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/22 11:24 PM
20

where even the most painfully average woman can literally receive hundreds of suitors If you're in a decent-sized city, it's thousands, not hundreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:13 PM
2

Not even just Islamic countries. Look at the Philippines
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:23 PM
2

basically every country on earth You'd be surprised. Especially if they're "married".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:00 PM
7

Not sure if "emotionally exhausting" is the terminology I'd use...It's hard to give them any sympathy or emotion whatsoever, given they intentionally don't solve their own problems. It's kind of similar to those "trauma" related subreddits where users literally flair "venting only, no advice" it's an admission that they secretly like their little problem and don't want it solved. Perhaps it's the only thing that makes them feel something...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:00 PM
25

I learned pretty early on that a lot of women don't actually want their problems solved; they just want to vent/complain about them. Their lives would be too boring without their (small) problems, I guess. Generally, you can just sit there and listen and sprinkle in a "yeah, that sucks" here and there and that's the best outcome. Once you get pretty good at it you don't even need to listen; just start filling in the pauses of the "conversation" appropriately while you're being talked at
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:43 PM
3

"I bought a lottery ticket and won, just do the same bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:27 PM
1

If they don't care about having kids, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:26 PM
2

These are not men that women want because they're not men they're little peter pans who checked out of society. They didn't want them anyway, so might as well be a peter pan, in their opinion. Now betabuxxing doesn't work at all so they're just forever alone incels. It doesn't work until you're 40. Most of the incel demographic leans young for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:34 PM
7

Hard-working, caring, loyal, NON-ABUSIVE Can't directly show off these traits to family/friends. Useless
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/22 12:03 PM
1

Of course they are. Not a CLUE what that has to do with average chumps somehow putting up any sort of fight against the most well equipped millitary and police in the world. See: Taliban, Vietnam, even Jan 6. Also keep in mind a lot of these below average guys (especially below average IQ) are in the military themselves. One factor that allowed Jan 6 to happen was because the cops felt like they were "on their team", and weren't really incentivized to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:00 PM
1

All you need to do is put 5% of men in the "freaks" bucket and allow them to organize, and they can absolutely destabilize society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:56 AM
2

A lot of it wouldn't qualify to medical research standards, sure, but there's also zero comprehensive counter-research either - that should be an indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:54 AM
2

Go look up OKC dating analytics and go from there. I'm not your personal research assistant
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:51 AM
2

incels are not stable people. They're also unlikely to be earning much money, not because they're unintelligent but what's the point in money when you live alone? Not talking about incels - talking the guys who are 4s - 6s (huge % of the population). There are plenty of guys who are below 8s making big money - programming, engineering, medical, you name it. Not having a woman doesn't mean you might as well be homeless Sex sure, but why would you marry? Objectively they shouldn't, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:49 AM
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There are plenty of screenshots of guys on incel subs literally cheering every time a young western woman gets murdered. While that is the extreme end of the spectrum, even less extreme subs like PPD, TRP, MGTOW, short, etc absolutely can (and probably do) radicalize below-average young men to have zero sympathy towards women, or make them actively hate women. It bleeds outside the dating world too: there are plenty of "blue pill" guys who will no longer have one-on-one calls with female colleag…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:44 AM
1

How many mass shooters have been in loving, stable relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:38 AM
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They're not going to want to marry these guys Of course not, but once they hit 40 they have that coming to jesus moment where they realize Chad is no longer in reach, and will finally settle for a "looksmatch" and will internally rationalize this via "I need a stable guy who won't cheat on me so I can have a well-adjusted child" it's not worth working yourself to death until your mid 30s in the hope of getting a crumb of pussy Male thirst is insane. Imagine going through your 20s, 30s, never get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:36 AM
4

That's great, but that's one anecdotal experience; the overall data/research proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:30 AM
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Congrats, you're an extreme minority but overall they tend to be less looks based Wrong. And there's ton of research that proves it. Do 5 minutes of research
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:29 AM
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Its not that 80% of men are substandard This number didn't come from thin air. There are objective, science-based studies that prove it. For example, OKC did a lot of data-driven analysis but ended up removing most of it from their website because it made women look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:27 AM
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that means 60% of women are going to be shit out of luck (at least in terms of commitment) They don't care. They are independent with their own careers, houses etc and would rather see Chad once a week than settle for a less attractive guy. Once they turn 40 and Chad no longer wants to fuck them, they marry some reliable, beta guy and pop out a kid. It's the new American way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:22 AM
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but they also find other 4s attractive Trust me, they don't. They don't even find 6's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:19 AM
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I see women with hideous beasts all the time Congrats on your anecdotal experience - all studies have proven this to not be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:14 AM
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Or even within the first 10 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:24 PM
1

If you're a bottom plate and I don't care if you stay or go, why not.
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/22 12:12 PM
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I know right - stupid is one thing but retarded is next level. OP likely has self-esteem issues and he was able to play into her self-loathing. Icing on the cake, she's doing every future girl who interacts with this guy a disservice by validating the "assholes get laid" stereotype.
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/22 10:45 AM
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this joke of a relationship It's not a really a "relationship". You're a FWB I don't think he values me enough to turn this into a relationship Obviously. If he wanted to commit to you, he would of done it a long time ago Long story short; you're seeing a guy who's "out of your league" (or at least he feels that way) - you're decent looking enough for a quick fuck but not good looking/whatever enough to commit to. The fact that you were okay being a FWB for 18months+ just validated his thought t…
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/22 10:39 AM
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Attention, free meals, free dates, emotional tampon, etc. It's way more common than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:31 AM
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It's too risky from the male POV. You could be stringing him along for 10+ dates while you're fucking your ex bf or whoever the entire time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:04 AM
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Yup - she's riding the CC on the taxpayer's dime, ultimately
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/22 04:49 PM
1

Or literally any other city (sans cali)
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/22 05:05 AM
4

Nice strawman. 22% of all Utah adults have a concealed carry license, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:52 PM
2

I don't think it's really even that, though. I think people look at unattractive people under a microscope trying to find any reason to write them off and seem less superficial, so acting any less than "perfect" socially allows them to write them off as "weird". Compared to attractive people, where you aren't even paying attention to what they say/do at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:36 PM
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Has the weird kid in the class ever been 6 foot and handsome ? You're disproving your own argument. Statistically, there should be many people who are conventionally attractive yet act "weird", but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case - therefore, you can't be weird if you're 6ft and handsome. Just another way to prove personality doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:12 PM
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Was just watching that new TLC show "I Love a Mama's Boy" - as expected, every single man is extremely conventionally attractive - it just shows that as long as you're good-looking, you can have severe mental issues and still get above-average women just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:46 PM
1

Good idea, I’ll start striving to be 6ft2
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/21 07:11 AM
1

When this is your best response to a post like that, you lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:10 AM
3

When did he claim that Jews are secretly ruling the world? How did we get from A to B? You clearly have an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:08 AM
1

The problem with this argument is that FDS views are mainstream: you see them on TikTok with hundreds of thousands of likes Post an incel view on TikTok and you'll get shadow banned or actually banned
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:28 AM
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Yes, this was extremely difficult to read... tl;dr it's easier for women to get desirable jobs in college vs men (waitressing, bartending, babysitting), it's easier for them to get hired post-college (diversity quotas), and have a lot of positive discrimination socially (dating, sexual liberation, girlboss CEOs etc) she then to goes on to complain about how third wave feminism is ruining the movement as it's no longer about equality but more about establishing some sort of matriarchy which is al…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/21 04:20 AM
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Just linked this in another thread; looks like I'm getting a free double-dip here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAywGIG-gqI Funny you say that, because I don't watch TV at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:35 PM
10

Tall, dark and handsome guys don't need to care. In fact, many women find it hotter that they don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:19 PM
12

You received the "personality blackpill" quite young, as they say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAywGIG-gqI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:44 PM
1

Now tell him that.
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/21 09:39 PM
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Good 'ole Reddit "just dump him" rhetoric. Put yourself in his shoes. He has significant assets and an assumed large income. Sounds like she doesn't. If he marries her, and for whatever reason a divorce happens, he's fucked. He would instantly lose 250K+, and be paying alimony for the rest of his life. Of course he wants a prenup. The thing about prenups though, he can't just write her out of everything, and a judge could potentially overturn it. What does he gain from marriage? Nothing, really.…
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/21 09:16 PM
4

It's super easy - just make all of your arguments based on emotion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:25 PM
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wifes should be husbands' properties, that's women's careers are bad, that women should be silent, that's women shouldn't be encouraged to study and fulfill their aspirations I've literally never heard of a single self-proclaimed republican or libertarian who holds this opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:57 PM
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The really dangerous thing is if we get a real plague, a virus that has a 10%+ mortality rate, many people wouldn't take it seriously until it's too late. Boy who cried wolf etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:43 PM
0

They're not missing out on much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:39 PM
49

2 minutes at /r/deadbedrooms and you will find hundreds of stories exactly like yours, and in 99% of them, it doesn't get any better. This is the more pressing issue by far. On the frugal side, it's hard to assess without knowing your exact finances. There are so many variables it's difficult to even speculate
/r/RedPillWomen20/11/21 05:30 AM
8

Simply not drinking calories can cut your caloric intake by half for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:54 PM
8

Sorry, no one cares about your anecdotes. "I know a guy who's X and accomplished Y" does not resonate with anyone. The objective evidence shows that immutable characteristics such as height and race are also the largest objective/measurable factor in dating success
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:52 PM
4

Stimulants are proven to curb hunger - if you get an urge, try drinking a coffee Not suggesting you to do this, but everyone was skinny in the cocaine-fueled 1940s for a reason
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/21 02:23 PM
3

Humans are very efficient runners; contrary to popular belief, most exercise doesn't burn a significant amount of calories There's only one solution and you know what it is: consume less calories. Remember, calories is a unit of energy - don't think calories are ok because they're "good calories". Your body doesn't care if it's 3000cal of kale or if it's 3000cal of McDoubles - it's turning into fat. You need to run a calorie deficit (maybe 1400cal/day)
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/21 01:42 PM
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I'll be direct with you - it's the weight. Fix it and you'll be amazed by the results.
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/21 04:54 AM
0

66.9% of American adult women are overweight or obese - simply having a BMI under 25 makes you above average, even if you have the ugliest features imaginable. This woman is likely an 8 in reality The statistics for men are even worse, but I don't think it translates to dating success in the same way (a tall, but overweight guy with good facial qualities can do very well on OLD imo)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:07 PM
6

This is the real answer - they're paying for replies, not to block ads
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:35 PM
6

Honestly it's easier & faster to install an adblocker on mobile than it is to open my wallet, take my credit card out and punch in the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:14 PM
10

It sounds like you already know your problem and the solution - not sure why you made this thread at all - if you're looking for someone to post some magical quick fix, it doesn't exist.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/21 04:05 PM
4

Exactly. He was tall enough to check the box
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:10 AM
2

Then why did you make this thread? Asking questions you already know the answer to, or?
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/21 08:48 PM
0

Many short men are insecure about their height, and particularly for relationships started online, a large percentage of women will reject men not in the top 20% bracket for height (Source: https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf ) On top of that, you're both the same height, potentially you being taller than him (albeit less than 1"), perhaps making that insecurity even worse. Just something to consider
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/21 05:42 PM
2

Passions: Mental Health Awareness
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/21 04:49 PM
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You should work on losing the weight just for yourself; any added SMV is a bonus
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 08:52 PM
4

Nice anecdote
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:49 PM
1

99% of them didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:42 PM
-1

Yon could say the same thing about the people who flew into Portland. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:08 AM
1

So their plan was to just sit in the building, no guns, and hope no one forced them out? That's absurd. It was emotion-fueled rioting exactly like BLM & Antifa did all year. Except a lot less property damage involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:25 PM
10

How would entering a capital building overturn an election?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:28 PM
1

No guy wants to date a girl where it's a constant fight for power between the two of them
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/21 03:39 PM
1

I don't think frequency is the issue - there are plenty of things that are extremely rare but are taken very seriously when they do happen. Male sexual assault just isn't one of them. Why bother reporting it if no one cares? But overall I don't disagree with you, these issues are definitely primarily female issues, but going back to the topic, claiming that women aren't privileged is asinine. Even in these few particular examples where women have a clear disadvantage, there's STILL some hidden f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:16 PM
1

My point was that even in physical altercations there is female privilege. Applies to sexual violence too - sexual violence towards men is grossly under-reported, and even when it does, the cops don't take it seriously. Society doesn't take it seriously either - "female teacher has sex with underage male student" vs "male teacher rapes underage female student".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:30 PM
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Imagine being a 5'4 130lb guy - easy to beat up AND it's socially acceptable to do so. Even when it comes to physical confrontations, females have privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:54 AM
1

Sure, but they're still LV
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:31 PM
3

40% of american women are obese; 11.5%+ being morbidly. Trust me, plenty of them are under 30
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:45 PM
1

Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:03 PM
1

It's a bit of a stretch to say you can be "straight up deformed" and still smash. Can't think of a single example of this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 09:06 AM
5

Less likely to ever settle, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:12 AM
3

[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:06 PM
6

Most comments on Primitive Technology videos are by men though, and by extension I would guess that ~80% of his viewers are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 08:17 PM
1

Just about anyone can curate a blog like that if they put the effort in. Set the stage to look perfect, put your actress face on and pretend you're doing an off-the-cuff video even though you spent an hour setting everything up, etc. It's mostly fake. Hard to fake living in a mansion I guess but even vacation can and have been faked on social media.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/20 05:31 AM
7

How about a 6'2" woman and a 5'2" man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 07:33 AM
1

I was referencing OP's "friends", which is what this thread is about, not RPW. I thought that was obvious but anyway.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/20 04:04 PM
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Decent-looking twenty-somethings can get tall guys no problem though, so that doesn't really hold up
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/20 08:20 PM
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The gender ratio is indeed 1:1 or something like 51:49; I think what it boils down to is that many women would rather masturbate than bang a low-tier dude (for a variety of reasons) and this obviously doesn't hold true on the male side
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:40 PM
5

Very anecdotal comment. Also, huge different between 5'8 and 5'3 for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:08 PM
2

Not sure how you're the first person to mention this. If he was carrying, as soon as he saw the gun (BB or not), he could have legally killed her in self defense right there and then. Cops kill people carrying BB guns regularly. Flailing a gun around wins you a Darwin award.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/20 06:28 PM
1

Sorry to say i'll continue to use exaggeration, like the rest of the world, in my daily life. But anyway you're correct. Polygamy is indeed absolutely disastrous and will continue to hurt western society as it spreads (rapidly, thanks to online dating). Never argued against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:06 AM
1

Do you normally read into everything literally? It's obviously (well, apparently, not to you) an exaggeration to make a point more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:01 AM
1

I understand the argument they're trying to make but they make a very poor job making it. https://youtu.be/bWYrAU5mmXE Tl;dr to be a virtuous man you need to stand up for yourself, but apparently according to this book, if I'm smart enough to not get caught breaking laws, don't drink but do other drugs, stay out of fights but maybe burn down houses and cars of my enemies, and put on a friendly persona apparently that means I'll be miserable and alone. Yeah ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:23 AM
1

Most men can't be as hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:19 AM
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I don't disagree with you, however, you should extrapolate that idea further - why do they want to out-do the girl next to them? Or perhaps they aren't trying to out-do anyone else but have the need look socially acceptable and not look like a bottom 20% female? Men are clearly at least a part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:04 AM
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If a village has 30 men and 30 women, and 29 men die, the last man can still impregnate all 30 women and continue the race. Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. Assuming you're male. Put yourself in their shoes, if you can score a "high value" male (and I'm talking high value socially, high value economically, AND high value physically) why would you settle for less? Sure getting someone like that to marry you would be difficult but worse case scenario, if you're ready to settle down and weren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 10:38 PM
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Be careful with this. It feels like a "how to get friendzoned" article.
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