kafka123 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Too many women assume that men are stupid but socially aware rather than clueless but of reasonable intelligence		kafka123	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/22 03:20 PM
1	Hypocrisy		kafka123	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 06:19 PM

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3	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them nope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 11:14 AM
4	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them They're seen as the least worst choice because they're either a person in a steady relationship, a woman, or both and can be trusted not to be acting in malice when answering or suspicious of the intentions of the asker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:21 PM
1	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them If you can't trust your plumber for advice on flying a plane, they shouldn't fix your tap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:17 PM
4	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them Agreed - except, I don't think most men, women, boys or girls are shallow. I think that what's really happening is that some women are willing to ignore obvious flaws in attractive men, that this applies to a lesser degree to men, and that women and men alike, but especially men, tend to reject ugly people who are otherwise nice people or decent dates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:13 PM
0	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them People who don't trust their friends to give them accurate dating advice and can't approach the opposite/same sex/someone they want to date for advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:12 PM
2	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them That's a fair point that hasn't been considered. And a lot of women don't want children and most young women and in the case of teenagers at school, girls, don't want to have kids yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:09 PM
8	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them Because who else are they going to ask? A male pick-up artist? Their male friend who is as unsuccessful as they are? A random female acquaintance or stranger who they don't know? One of the few female friends they have who will find it creepy? The girl they're trying to ask out? They might be able to ask their fathers (if they're around) but that's about it. These dudes know that they aren't succeeding with women and try to find women to ask.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:08 PM
4	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them I agree with this as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:05 PM
0	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them By the same logic, your female friend or the crush that didn't work out didn't lie to you either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 05:04 PM
5	It's not that only men can be "shut-in" or "socially inept," it's more that being so hurts their dating success more than it hurts women's dating success. You can be socially anxious and fail because you don't speak to anyone, but the real failure rate is based on being seen as suspicious, creepy, desperate or unattractive. The first problem for straight men is that women are often wary of grown men anyway, so if they're asking a woman out and come off badly, more suspicion is aroused. The second is being expected to ask someone out. It's harder for anyone regardless of gender to ask someone out when they're socially awkward without looking desper…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/22 01:14 PM
2	Has male cognitive dissonance towards women, completely taken over this sub? While I won't deny that many men in these sorts of fields are desperate, sexist and egotistical, I feel like there's a massive amount of miscommunication that goes on within these sorts of discussions. Conflict #1 - Men here tell women to "choose better", yet get offended when women are shown to be more picky on dating apps. Does "choosing better" only apply, when she's choosing YOU? This means, "choose to avoid someone who'll be a cheating serial killer", not, "choose to avoid someone who's ugl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/22 09:57 PM
-4	Teachers Are Hard-Wired To Give Girls Better Grades, Study Says I support this idea, but I'm honestly sick of the kind of victim culture in this subreddit. This is not simple sexism, this is overcorrection from a prior generation that penalized girls in the same fashion.	/r/MensRights	18/10/22 08:32 PM
2	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. I'm questioning my gender, so I'm not sure I'm someone you want to talk to about this.	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 06:26 PM
3	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Evolutionary psychology is a thing, but that's not what you're talking about.	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 01:26 PM
3	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. It's not a myth that incels are a "terrorist" threat in the sense that they can turn easily turn violent; it's a myth that violent incels are as prevalent or as violent as actual terrorists or people who display terrorist-like behaviour, such as school shooters. The level of threat in incels is still overrated, even if the potential threat of an nonviolent incel turning violent is not. It's like arguing that a mugger is as violent as a gang leader because a lot of people think they're just theif…	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 11:52 AM
3	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Some of them are, and I imagine that's why some people, women especially, are threatened by them. But often, the approaches taken towards these sorts of people are counterproductive and radicalizing. People lie to them, demonize them, or react with prejudice. This doesn't mean that the average virgin or incel type man is more dangerous. There are more men in general who are socially adept, and thus probably more emotional men who aren't virgins on the one hand, but also more emotionally stable m…	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 11:48 AM
0	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. This is only a prejudice against men or lonely people if you admit that these are the kinds of people or women who prey on the lonely. If you believe that women are only after resources, that is not a men's rights or virgin rights argument, it's a sexist argument that demonizes women.	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 11:42 AM
4	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Radical lesbian feminists do not believe that men should adhere to that value system, this is not why they degrade these men. Rather, they degrade these men because they feel these men shouldn't care, and that by pointing out the fact that they are involuntary celibate, they must care to some degree (which is normal for most people, but not to people/women who despise men, genuine lesbians who have no reason to care for men, or to bisexual women or fake "lesbians" who either lack a normal unders…	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 11:37 AM
6	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Sexists think women are prizes to be won, which encourages some men to spend too much time worrying about getting laid and others to shame men who aren't able to attract women. A lot of "normie" types are highly sociable people and believe that if someone doesn't have friends or partners, there must be something wrong with them, rather than something wrong with the people they interact with or bad luck. This applies to women as well, but women are: harder to shame without the sexism involved bei…	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 11:19 AM
2	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Some people refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with them, regardless of what they are saying or how much sense they are making. That said, people sometimes get very angry whenever visible minorities are used as examples, because to them, it's a weird version of Godwin's law and cheapens the dangerous experiences that minorities face, e.g., if you say that something is like the Holocaust, someone's Jewish grandfather who almost died won't be very happy.	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 10:51 AM
0	No, virgin men are not more likely to be misogynistic or violent nor are incels are a threat to women. Debunking a new study showing that unwanted celibacy is associated with misogyny or pro-rape attitudes. Although many users on the forum make misogynistic statements about women, some users are secretly not that misogynistic. For example, in polls, only about half of the users rated themselves as a 4 or 5 on a scale of 1 to 5 when asked how misogynistic or hateful toward women they were. A fifth rated themselves a 3, and about a quarter rated themselves a 1 or 2. In one poll created by a user instead of an administrator, about half of the incels said they do not hate women. This means they might p…	/r/MensRights	07/10/22 10:45 AM
1	Woman jailed for more than five years for making 10 false rape claims against two different men That's fair.	/r/MensRights	03/10/22 07:21 PM
1	Woman jailed for more than five years for making 10 false rape claims against two different men I get the feeling that both stories about over-arrests and under-arrests are true, however paradoxical that seems, because the courts often can't be arsed to do any detective work (not that rape is an easy thing to crack in the first place). It's the same with anti-terrorism legislation, it's easier to either create security theatre or do absolutely nothing than it is to track down an obvious threat. It's not just sexual abuse in adults, the same issues happen with child abuse, too. People eithe…	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 12:57 PM
-8	Woman jailed for more than five years for making 10 false rape claims against two different men The problem with charging people for false allegations - regardless of the sex or gender of the people in question - is that a false rape claim might not be false. Rape trials are notoriously hard to get evidence for, and a rape claim might be dismissed due to lack of evidence. Simply having the perpetrator claim that they didn't rape someone, combined with a lack of evidence for a claim, could theoretically get a genuine rape victim arrested.	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 12:52 PM
-8	Woman jailed for more than five years for making 10 false rape claims against two different men The problem with false allegations - regardless of the sex or gender of the people in question - is that a false rape claim might not be false. Rape trials are notoriously hard to get evidence for, and a rape claim might be dismissed due to lack of evidence. Simply having a the perpetrator claim that they didn't rape someone, combined with a lack of evidence for a claim, could theoretically get a genuine rape victim arrested.	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 12:51 PM
6	TIL that Sex between minors is straight up illegal in India. If an underage boy has consensual sex with an underage girl and the police finds out, the boy will probably be charged with rape Yeah, I've heard that too. It's not just India that has stupid laws about this. It seems to apply to CP laws as well, which is a scary prospect if you're, say, a 14 year old on snapchat with your crush at school.	/r/MensRights	12/09/22 02:58 PM
1	TIL that Sex between minors is straight up illegal in India. If an underage boy has consensual sex with an underage girl and the police finds out, the boy will probably be charged with rape India is a weird place, because you'd think that a place that was bad for men's rights would be bad due to overzealous attempts to make things easier for women (I don't mean that feminism is bad or that men's rights isn't due to patriarchy or sexism, just that, for instance, you'd expect a place that charged men with sexual harassment on a whim to assume that the culture is one that currently supports women a lot), but in India, women's oppression seems to work in tandem with widespread prejudic…	/r/MensRights	12/09/22 02:47 PM
21	Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world? This isn't a case of code words, but the case of the euphemism treadmill. Globalism is a criticism of the Davos crowd, but it's used by anti-Semites to drum up support; the incel movement is in theory geared towards anyone who's involuntary celibate, but in practice is geared towards people who feel like the opposite gender are being cruel to them, which risks radicalizing a lot of young straight men into misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/22 03:30 PM
8	Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world? Which ones? If you're talking about cishet autistic men who've never had a partner before and are over a certain age, then yes, they are doomed. In theory, they're not, I'm sure some people find them attractive or that they could manage a good first impression, but in practice, they are, except maybe the ones who are incredibly good looking (like, if they literally look like a young leo dicaprio or something) and even then it's a struggle. I don't necessarily mean that they will die single, but …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/22 03:15 PM
1	Is it really that common for men to have bad hygiene that many girls here have to mention it as a disqualifier? I think that there are three issues going on here. The first is that straight men have a certain degree of entitlement going on whereby they think that they don't have to pay attention to their looks or hygeine, just look "normal", whereas women are expected to look their best all the time. The second is a combination of two issues - one, that certain people, men especially, mistake things like hygeine issues for inherent ugliness and try their luck with well-kempt people the same way someone mi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/22 12:01 PM
0	Now that women have been sexually liberated, most men will always be sexually frustrated Plenty of men look upwards and always have, and plenty of women have very low standards for men. The difference is that it used to be easy for men to look upwards and difficult for women to do so. Now, it is the reverse (with the exception that women are still more likely to become trapped in abusive relationships, because the proportion of manipulative men who prey on women is higher than the inverse<sup>1</sup> , and because it's harder for a man to convince a woman that she is meeting with an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/22 10:05 PM
1	Red Pill Polyamory Confusion (Men vs Women) It's confusing for two reasons. One, evolutionary psychology and what was common sense before birth control were a thing are both based on the facts of the situation, not the moral thing to do. The best short term evolutionary strategy probably involves men coercing women into sex and then abandoning them with their babies and women pretending that babies belong to whatever male partner they commit to long enough for them to stop needing support before they can go off and abandon them for anothe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/21 08:15 AM
0	Redpillers: Do You Include Your Mothers and Sisters in Your Generalizations About Women? I think you're working on the assumption that family members are the exception to the rule, but a lot of people first get their negative views on the opposite sex from their families in the first place. Also, I think that there's an assumption that either they genuinely feel the same about everyone or they're being mean, but even though I personally believe this stuff is bullshit, making a generalization is not quite like that, because, for instance, someone might hate the Tories with a passion,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/21 01:47 AM
2	He said my compliments are insincere then ghosted? Sounds like he is so used to being dumped that he presumes he must be failing when he actually has some success. Maybe give him some time to come around.	/r/RedPillWomen	21/03/21 09:40 PM
2	Many men here overestimate the importance of attractiveness over personality because they are undersocialized I think you're underestimating incels. They know that they are terrible communicators, so they feel as though if only they were good looking, they'd be given a second chance, but because they're ugly/not particularly good looking, they're not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/20 08:02 PM
1	Seasoned homicide investigator claims that sexually successful men are more likely to murder/harm women over rejection and handle rejection very poorly. Does this line up with your observations? Why does this occur so much if a man has options? Not sure if it's my place to speak, but the last bit is probably why this happens if the investigator is correct.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/20 12:46 AM
1	As many American men report being "forced to penetrate" each year as women report being raped That's a really common thing for men to think about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 06:08 PM
1	As many American men report being "forced to penetrate" each year as women report being raped Problem is, "forced to penetrate" could mean sexual assault or it could mean non-penetrative female-on-male rape, you can't tell unless you know the details.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 05:42 PM
1	The reason why men think women are lying when they personality matters a lot is because they mistake personality for character There's a female criminal who got a similar treatment from men but reacted badly to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 05:40 PM
2	The reason why men think women are lying when they personality matters a lot is because they mistake personality for character Going out with a shitty man doesn't make you a shitty man, it makes you someone who went out with a shitty man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 05:39 PM
3	The reason why men think women are lying when they personality matters a lot is because they mistake personality for character I think character can be faked by dark triad types, and personality is a pretty fluid concept to begin with and isn't faked unless you're closeted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 05:37 PM
11	The reason why men think women are lying when they personality matters a lot is because they mistake personality for character Men will talk about how they want an "ideal woman" to, say, do some favour or hobby for them, whereas women will talk about how the perfect gentleman should act in terms of character, personality and duty. Basically, men bullshitting about women sound like Donald Trump or a weeaboo describing something or someone they like, whereas women bullshitting about men sound like the instructions your teacher gave you on how to be the perfect school student (or Christian or whatever). To be honest, thoug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 05:32 PM
2	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread You can try with actual real girls you could theoretically touch, but online. Of course, you have to watch out because most of the people on the sites are either men, bots, or sex workers, but real women who are genuinely into relationships aren't non-existent, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 09:31 PM
1	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread I'm not sure what the dodgy metaphors are about, but purely monetary arrangements that are shared is not "losing your stuff". If you're paying your partner, you can be exploited for your wealth, but you still hold all the power and privilege when it comes to controlling the money. If you're being paid, you can be forced under someone else's control, but you are still able to exploit and scam people for their cash. This shared money arrangement is supposed to be complimentary, but it has some ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 09:25 PM
3	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread No, you don't. You share your stuff when you get married. Then, some arsehole who should arrange it so that you get back with what you started with, instead works on your basis, thus justifying losing half your stuff. Or, alternatively, a different arsehole makes the other person lose half their stuff, giving it unfairly to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 09:22 PM
1	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread I can understand being critical of the hypocrisy people show, but I don't understand the lack of empathy. If someone goes around being angry that they can't date someone of a different sexuality to them, it seems entitled, but if someone has fallen head over heels in love over someone of a different sexuality to them, it seems very callous to act like they're creepy or superficial; why is that different for people who are attracted to people who are out of their league? I suspect it has somethin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 09:08 PM
3	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread The problem is that most people have a solution to their problems. Some people, like incels, don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 08:04 PM
10	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread Normal people think that incels are like that to begin with because they're mean, and incelsTM on reddit don't realize they stay like that because they've become mean. In reality, incels start off being nice (albeit possibly delusional and/or entitled) and some of them (not all) turn bitter and mean after they've been denied chances that other people take for granted (which ISN'T entitled, but expecting individual people/everyone to think you're sexy is). But normal people don't see that, they o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 08:00 PM
3	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread Because there are no other people around at all, not just a lack of dates, and long-term dates can stay in the same household whereas casual friends and the like can't. Also, someone might say they're an incel and mean they can't get successful dates, not that they can't go on a date. Whereas with Covid, you can't go on an ordinary date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 07:43 PM
1	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread Try the internet. Try video chat and internet dating, see what works. Remember to ask about age, sex location etc. to avoid any trouble.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 07:42 PM
5	Incel, Feminism and FDS megathread You can't really win. The best thing is finding something other than dating to complain or brag about with your friends. Covid-19 has changed everything, but theoretically, I think a lot of it is a mixture of individualism, social anxiety and latent homophobia. If all the lonely people who find themselves being the only ones who actually like each other were to actually meet up as often as couples and socialites do, there'd be less people wandering around on their own, feeling lonely. On the fli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/20 07:34 PM
2	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women Empathy and reading body language actually IS impossible for some people, women as well as men (and it can also apply to those in between). Assuming that it isn't is a normative approach. This is actually one of the reasons some people have so many problems. I'm on the autism spectrum, and being on the spectrum makes it harder for people to learn body language in ANY direction, whether you're the instigator OR the victim of unwanted advances, or wanted ones as well! Autism is just ONE of the man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 07:02 PM
2	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women You don't know if a sexual advance from anyone is wanted until they react. Most men grow up struggling to find a date and not being particularly afraid of women. Most women grow up having no trouble finding dates and being afraid of men from a young age. This is bound to have an effect on the different attitudes men and women have towards each other and on how straight and bisexual people act in dating situations. Furthermore, the normative, Eurocentric, neurotypical idea of social etiquette var…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:41 PM
1	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women Not necessarily. If someone who isn't a paedophile trusts a cute child more than a fully grown adult man with the scruffiness of a drug addict, then yes, the person's attractiveness affects how creepy they seem (I mean, the difference between adults and children probably has more to do with status than looks, but you see what I mean). Likewise, someone might trust a Hollywood movie star more than they'd trust an unkempt rando off the street, or a sex worker over a plumber.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:38 PM
1	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women And the same would probably be true of most men. Moreover, this same study, let alone other studies, also prove that some people dislike harassment no matter what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:35 PM
1	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women Political radical and fourth wave feminists and political incels seem to be two sides of a coin on this issue. They both believe that people aren't subjective on issues of sexuality, attractiveness, admiration and likeability. As a result, they drive themselves round in circles trying to prove that judgement only occurs in bad people and that their own subjective judgements can somehow be rationalized, explained and justified. It's like one person hates oranges and the other person loves oranges…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:28 PM
1	The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to women The attractiveness of ANY harasser or even a flat out rapist probably has an effect on the enjoyability of the experience. The question should not be about how serious the issue felt, but whether it counts as a serious problem or not. To use an analogy, the fact that people don't mind being murdered by Megan Fox doesn't make murder OK, it just makes Megan Fox attractive. This is the important dynamic to be aware of, because it determines the genuine and very important difference between, "person…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:16 PM
6	For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like? It's not that women should "care", it's that they "don't care". Men aren't asking women to care more about people's dates, they are asking them not to demonize men or be unsympathetic to them when they bring up their dating problems. To use an analogy, they're not asking you to cure the deadly disease, they're asking you not to chuckle in their faces when they tell you they've got one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/20 06:12 PM
1	I (24F) am feeling guilty about going on dates with two men at once. What's your opinion? I think that it should be established with both partners that you're still considering who to go out with e.g. is he going out with more than one woman? Unfortunately, I don't know how to establish that sort of acknowledgment without running into problems. I don't think it's right to make someone think you're exclusive when you aren't.	/r/RedPillWomen	14/09/20 05:24 PM
1	How do you help yourself not feel insecure when you are around women who are visibly better looking than you are? Remind yourself that these people are not alternative versions of you, they are someone else. Remind yourself than more than one woman, man and so on can be pretty at once, including yourself. You may not be physically attracted to women, and may even be jealous of men, but if you know enough about them to find them attractive, then focus on that rather than what it says about yourself. It is not a competition and we (hopefully) no longer live in a world where expression attraction to the same s…	/r/RedPillWomen	01/08/20 01:18 AM
1	Is it ever okay to lie by omission over small things for his benefit? It's really important to realize that some people have legitimate reasons not to eat certain kinds of vegetables, nuts, dairy and desserts and so on because it can be really dangerous if they eat something they're allergic to. Taking that into account, I think it's theoretically OK to say, put carrots in a cake or something if it will change someone's mind. But it's not OK - never OK - to ever lie about meat, not because it's dangerous, but because it's a major deal breaker that goes against peo…	/r/RedPillWomen	01/08/20 01:13 AM
3	Men are trash. Men are not brilliant. Men are not trash. Women are not brilliant. Women are not trash. People who yell "you're ugly" at random strangers in the street are trash.	/r/RedPillWomen	01/08/20 01:11 AM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Most straight men are afraid to wear makeup because they think they'll be seen as gay or a woman. They won't be seen as women, and straight women claim they don't care if they wear makeup or not since (and this is true) they will still find them attractive - but they also tend to assume that men who wear makeup are either gay, vain, or have something to hide, and therefore won't date them. Many men assume - not without reason - that they will be attacked by other men for wearing visible makeup, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 05:29 PM
4	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? It's not quite as simple as all that. There are many women who really are attracted to below-average men, but they won't date "friendzone" type guys because they know that those men wouldn't do the same for them. Most "friendzone" type guys are trying to date someone hotter than them, right? So why would you lower your standards if they won't lower their own? They'll go out with someone who isn't good looking, but not with someone ugly who only fancies good-looking people. The other factor is th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 05:03 PM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Precisely. But this is where the whole, "mens' rights" thing overlaps. The men who are in this position have had a terrible time both despite and because of being male, to the extent that many assume women are not oppressed. If you live in a society where you assume men and women are on equal terms already, or one in which women are the privileged ones, then complaining about the behaviours of women feels no different from complaining about the behaviours of men. But most women, and also most me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:54 PM
2	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Maybe they're angry a young, pretty woman won't sleep with them because they spent their teens unable to date young, pretty women as a young, pretty man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:45 PM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Yeah, because men are "supposed" to do the working asking out!! An average-looking woman is going to get a response from some desperate man because he knows that he has to ask out a woman to get anywhere. An average-looking man isn't as likely to get a response from some desperate woman because she isn't going to risk asking him out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:41 PM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Why would you? Women are more self-aware about their looks than men, and if they see that all the women there are twice as good looking as them, and it isn't real enough for someone to strike up a conversation with someone they haven't met yet, then that isn't a surprise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:38 PM
2	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? There are men who assume things about women who ask them out, too. I've read stuff from men on here who assume that a woman who fancies them must be either unfaithful or after their cash.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:37 PM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Both are sort-of true and sort-of not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:34 PM
-1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? Women are supposed to do the same thing, even amongst their friends. I'd call it misogyny given how much of it men take for granted, but they do it to each other, too. Have you ever considered how much effort it must take for women to live in a tidy house? Wear makeup and shave their bodies almost every day? Refuse to mention any health issues they have to avoid being seen as weak, lazy or a radical feminist? Women bring plenty to the table, but because it's seen as the default, they seem like t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:31 PM
4	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? These women are attractive. And they don't lack a personality or interests, they just don't show it, because it's like admitting you're an internet addict when you're surrounded by shallow people and look like a young leo dicaprio. They don't need to have interesting livestyles BECAUSE they're attractive. Most men who can't find partners are not in that category. They aren't good looking enough to rely on their looks alone - or if they are, there are other social issues in their way, like the fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:27 PM
2	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? This just sounds judgy to me. The real reason men don't get it as much as women is that there's this idea that women can't ask men out. As for internet addicts and gamers, there's an element of truth in that, but not for the reasons people think. The problem isn't that nerdy men are nerdy and everyone hates it; the problem is that nerd culture is pointlessly gendered. It's like being a football-mad man who wonders why he can't get laid; he can't get laid because most women aren't interested in f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:19 PM
2	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? It's pretty obvious why a slutty drug dealer (regardless of sex or gender) would get laid. Anyway, dealing drugs IS interesting, even if the person doing it is an idiot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:17 PM
1	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? I sort of agree, but disagree. I'll admit - I've not been to Vegas. But - in general - have you seen those mafioso types in suits? Not many women like them, but plenty of men. Men find it easy for their weight to give them presence. It's a harder look to pull off if you're a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:14 PM
10	What do you think is making men so unattractive to women? In the past, women wouldn't see men complaining about them. Men don't feel as though anything's changed, because they complain to their male friends all the time. But to the average women, on account of the Internet, it looks as though there's this sudden cesspit of complaints about women coming out of nowhere. The other thing are people like Eliot Rodger. In the past, someone who was nerdy and couldn't get laid was a sympathy ploy and a man who went around killing women was just some random psy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:02 PM
0	About women finding 80% of men unattractive: is it really hypergamy or are most men just f*cking ugly? Dating apps are for people who struggle to approach someone in person. Whether the person is good looking or not is beside the point, as is whether or not they are interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 04:00 PM
0	The reason dating is so difficult is generally because of how shallow we are Yes, but "shallowness" suggests it's always within our self-control. It's like saying that if you only forced yourself to find junk food disgusting instead of delicious, you'd lose weight. In reality, this "shallowness" isn't really within our own self-control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/20 03:56 PM
1	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 10:03 PM
2	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? This.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 10:01 PM
4	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? The shock is that he isn't known to be a terrible person. Either Chad is hiding his bad side in front of the right people, or you are projecting "terrible person" onto Chad. Neither of these are going to solve the issue for you, because you assume that Everyone Knows Chad Is a Terrible Person. The other problem is that you assume that the rules about being suspicious of someone work differently for you because you assume everyone else knows how nice you are. Imagine you're a girl and you see two…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:56 PM
1	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Heads of wealthy companies often have some sort of financial backup plan that makes things easier for them in the long run. However, many women struggle to become successful in their careers without making sacrifices because even taking aside time increase in producing offspring that women have to deal with, they simply don't tend to receive as much support as their male counterparts. A male CEO with a housewife can support himself easily; a female CEO married to a man who also wants to be a CEO…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:50 PM
7	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Yes, and men also say things they don't actually mean, but they're too insular to notice, which reads as arrogance to socially developed women and thoughtful, romantically successful men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:44 PM
2	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Partly because most of them don't. Many of them are too trusting of cruel men, but it's hard to say that out loud that unless you're a woman or exclusively attracted to men, because it comes off as either jealousy or an excuse to patronize women. Additionally, men who complain about not having a partner tend to develop serious blind spots when it comes to how they are perceived in public by everyone else, and are blunt to the point of rudeness in admitting what sort of person they find physicall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:38 PM
-12	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Not true in either case. Men and women alike are not picky. Men just get a harder time finding a woman to date than women have when finding a partner because sexism dictates they should ask women out, and women are frightened of weird-looking men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:32 PM
12	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? I think this example is a you problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:26 PM
7	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? No, they feel that they underestimate how awful certain men are, which they do, because shitty men tend to stay stuff around other men that they never say around most cisgender women. But most men don't see that, they just see a woman dating a shitty man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:25 PM
3	Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/20 09:23 PM
2	The Myth of the Carousal People's actions are driven by perception, not reality. You're right; both sexes have a tendency to assume that their feelings or what they've been told on an issue is the reality when it isn't, although in this case, acting on a projection that only people in an echo chamber confirm and acting on fear, safety and prejudice that is outright endorsed by the media, governments, and the vast majority of the public is not the same thing, and the number of reported rapes and sexually assaults that ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 04:36 PM
1	The Myth of the Carousal I wish there was some space where spades could complain about being spades without it turning into a delusional projection. People are allowed to feel upset about being dumped, failing an exam or losing a job opportunity, and possibly even for being rejected, but there's no real space for people who are constantly in this position to complain other than some hate space where people project their issues onto scapegoats. It's like living in a society where the only places you can complain about be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 12:06 PM
1	The Myth of the Carousal 4) Men who think that they are being "nice" by not having random sex with women when this is actually just a way to suit them (you can be a virgin and be genuinely nice, but it's not the same thing). It's the equivalent of saying you're humble because you can't afford groceries. Unfortunately, these men are often given the wrong messages and surrounded by the wrong people, e.g. if you're constantly told messages about sexual harassment, you might get the impression that women are being treated b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 12:00 PM
1	The Myth of the Carousal Very true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 11:53 AM
2	The Myth of the Carousal tl;dr: you THINK women don't like sex as much as men because they're women, but it's actually because most women give birth, society is sexist towards women (and men, partly because of this, might be worse at sex), and some women become sexist towards men because they're frightened of them. While I agree that women have different approaches to men when in comes to sex, I think that it's, ironically, sexist to assume that women somehow lack an interest in sex to the extent you are describing. Whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 11:33 AM
1	The Myth of the Carousal It's not really about the context, it's about the perspective. What seems like nothing to the average sociable, not ugly or fat neurotypical woman whose relationships didn't always work out seems like good luck to a lonely woman or to people who are constantly taken advantage of when they try to date someone, and a miracle to some dude who can't approach a woman without seeming creepy. And there are unfortunately misogynist types on reddit who exaggerate and/or slut-shame in order to find an eas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/20 10:51 AM
1	How come guys tend to work longer hours than women? Because women on average have other comittments to make, such as - as others including fairycanary have said - looking after children, performing chores or seeing female friends in other jobs, which men are on average less likely to have. They are also more likely to have to cope with health issues associated with reproduction (e.g.pregnancy, periods) and likely to have their appearance judged to a higher standard (which might mean they take longer to get ready, or go to sleep earlier on worknig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/20 07:41 PM
2	[CMV] The Red Pill is literally encouraging men to become mentally ill; even if the process attracts women, it is extremely damaging to a man's psyche Not the red pill, the pick-up artists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/20 10:37 AM
4	E-Thots & Prostitutes are some of the most moral and honest women there are This isn't true. It's a job, not necessarily a career, and it and when it's a career, that's not what they see in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/19 09:10 PM
1	Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult. Mens' rights issues shouldn't have to be run by women, just as Feminism shouldn't have to be nice to men, but unfortunately, the chances of any woman taking men's rights seriously if it's only men doing it is very slim. Powerful men might theoretically be more sympathetic, but they have a knack at twisting things around to suit themselves, and don't really care about marginalised groups of people.	/r/MensRights	22/07/18 07:47 PM
1	Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult. They don't get all the shit jobs in society, by any mile. But they DO get the morally shit jobs. What is true, though, is that they don't tend to get shit "manly" jobs. You might get asked to clean away literal shit as a woman, but you won't be asked to haul it into a truck.Many women are willing to do shit "manly" jobs, but those in power won't let them. Morally shit jobs are a different issue; I wouldn't be surprised if not that many women wanted to carry those out. But there's even been an in…	/r/MensRights	22/07/18 07:40 PM
1	Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult. The problem isn't just sexism against men or some sort of gender stereotype about men being slaves or gender identity issue about male roles in biology. It's also that Feminism's portrayal of men as the ones in power makes it hard for society to see men as anything but. To the unititiated, a "men's rights movement" sounds like a "white rights movement" or a "rich person's rights movement" or "the right for adults not to be oppressed by children". And for the most part, this is true for the kind …	/r/MensRights	22/07/18 07:37 PM
1	Karen Straughan on why Mens Rights is so difficult. >>simply on the word of a woman. I know what you're getting at here, that women get taken at their words for crimes rather than with some sort of analysis - but you will not get far in life if you phrase things this way. Karen Straughen is a woman, but you make it sound like some misogynist argument about women being incompetent.	/r/MensRights	22/07/18 04:36 PM
2	real talk. how do men perceive transgender men People are douchebags.	/r/MensRights	17/07/18 05:15 PM