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Social Issueskalecikkarasi/r/MensRights01/01/24 10:13 PM
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Great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:30 PM
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One of the blue girls should try the opposite, then we can compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:04 AM
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The experiment (+ comment section) showed us; that (1) average women can definitely pull up 9 dates (not matches, actual date opportunities) per day with looks-matched decent guys. This means theoretically infinite options for them. And that's why (2) women have indeed quite skewed perception of "average", and are not able to rate themselves properly. KingofRheinwg thank you for your time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:49 PM
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We cannot see his hair but he is fit, clean, has nice hands, symmetrical face with no obvious flaws. Take off that cap if he has a nice hair he is 7/10. And + if he is tall, has a decent job he is 8-8.5/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:22 PM
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6.5/10 he has average to average + face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:18 PM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:06 PM
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unironically reinforcing 80/20 that's true unfortunately. they have skewed perception about average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:05 PM
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Aand how did you find these 7 guys doesn't fit these criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:56 PM
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Men can be intimidated by women's jobs. That's true. But "men don’t care about your job" is also true, men don't consider income or career like women's way, men never say "I want finance, trust fund" or "100k income or don't talk to me". Men are more interested in age and look than income and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:53 PM
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I'm intrigued, what's your preference? How do you rate yourself? Do you agree OLD is harder for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:46 PM
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He is good looking. Why do you think that he's average? Who is handsome for you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:33 PM
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Could you please describe the average guy. Height, fitness, income, fashion etc. If you provide 1 or 2 pics of your "average guy"that's would be even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:20 PM
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I don't know it's instagram or attention from OLD your perception is certainly skewed, because these guys are not "below average", they are looks matched with abby imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:17 PM
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The goal was not to find most attractive but find looks matched dates who can have normal convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:13 PM
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If I get 9 DATE per day I would be damn picky too. Most women don't put any effort into their profiles, mirror pics or selfies, %95 chance of ghosting you, or one-word answers. Because they have it easy and they have infinite options to choose from, that's normal for them to aim for best of the best guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:12 PM
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The women is not gorgeous and these matches looks matched imo. The goal was trying to find looks matched dates who can have a convo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:08 PM
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What is average?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:04 PM
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That's no surprise really. Not even 7 match, 7 actual date in 18 hours. I have never got any matches in my life. If a woman tells you "OLD harder for women" she is either troll or mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:46 PM
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Im looking finance, trust fund, 6.5, blue eyes, and I wonder why they’re “vulgar”?! You are 6-8/10 girl looking for 9-10/10 guy, you are in the %60 and he is in the %1 good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:32 PM
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Both will get equal attention. That’s why women cannot rate themselves accurately. And “im looking for looks match” is a big lia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:28 PM
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Women dont have the ability of rating themselves so “looks matched” doesnt mean anything. Lets be real, what is your height criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:19 PM
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You get infinite matches, if you cannot find any “decent” guy, you are the problem. @windmill_flowers you should create an avarage or atracitve guy profile and experiment to educate yourself before comparison or accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:15 PM
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And me, as a 10/6 guy, never ever get any matches in my life, with paid subs, high effort pics and profile, intention of finding ltr. I have better luck irl but old is hell for men. I dont think a woman ever understands this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:10 PM
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1) That's illegal to charge more based on customers' age, ethnicity, or gender. 2) There is no "wage gap" 3) That's not a "progressive policy"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:15 PM
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Actually, what makes OLD bad is monopolization (the same company owns every app) and the monetization methods of these apps. It's been hell for men. If women think OLD is bad, it's great. Let's abandon these apps for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:47 PM
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Ah okay I was trying to state that. Both people have responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:11 PM
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You should explain why it is a man’s job to put hard work and make effort in relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:22 PM
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What do you mean? You are only vagina to him so he should content some level and women don’t have to put any effort in relationships? Yes if a girl isn’t leaving she must be content to some level. This is nothing to do with putting effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:18 PM
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Dear women, if you want to end the relationship just end it. Do not wait half year saying “I kiss him less so he would know Im gonna end it” and secretly looking for another partner or saving money for yourself. End of the discussion. Edit: and please do not marry someone who doesn’t even capable of doing basic household chores because he is 6 foot or something. You cannot change him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:57 PM
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Classical example. You are a terrible person. There is no side in this. If you want to leave you have the right to leave and please go away. Don’t “kiss less” and wait half year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:51 PM
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This is true only if the woman is also putting effort too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:47 PM
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👏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:58 PM
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It's very long video but I wonder what did she say dumb and immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:45 AM
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Certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:39 AM
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Hmm interesting... Well, what do you think about that? Would you choose "medium ugly men bc it's safer", or more satisfied relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:20 AM
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So gender essentialist red pill arguments true to you? A lot of women are saying in the comment section most men have been historically unattractive and unworthy of reproduction. Hypergamy or 20:80 rule is part of female sexuality in this context. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:01 AM
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the liberation of women's sexuality means collapse of society she means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:58 AM
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And handsome hands with wide shoulders? 2" taller than you, well traveled? Maybe you still have other criteria in addition to those. What makes this good man attractive, respectable, lovable, and sexy too? Because I know many men with the characteristics you describe having troubles in today's society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:22 AM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:05 AM
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Self-proclaimed goodness is an oxymoron. In life, we face conflicts of interest and try to satisfy our own needs within the confines of social norms in order to survive and be fulfilled. Here "goodness" is only a point of view. Life is not like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars. There are no good or evil people but there are ethical choices and good behaviour. I recommend No More Mr. Nice Guy book by Dr. Rober Glover to self-proclaimed good guys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:02 AM
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Hypothetically if they would be the best and most loving wife, honestly I have no problem accepting any of those and being loyal (except I don't know the meaning of anime horse girl). "You will never really be attracted" I assume this will change over time, because a) attraction is not based on looks alone, b) attraction can increase when you get to know them, c) everyone is gradually losing their physical attractiveness anyway, d) I'm also 5/10 at the moment. Not only that, there can be an endl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:57 PM
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Some of the current studies rely on online dating due to easy access to data, but that's not always the case because these studies are probably 50 years old. Surveys have their own limits because of the self-reported data but they're verifiable and reliable enough. And no they don't "all" conflict. A little bit of conflict is healthy in science. You can find conflicting data on cancer research too, but that doesn't mean cancer research is all garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:05 AM
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I wonder how you came to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:34 AM
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The variety is rather small. Some aspects of attraction are biological hence universal, and some aspects are cultural. In normal distubiton most women find spesific type atractive. Anyway, the "women don't find average men attractive" statement alone shows that women find a particular set of traits attractive. A successful, wealthy, confident, tall, moderately muscular guy will win nearly all women's hearts...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:35 PM
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This is probably the worst advice. And no there is no conflict in real published dating studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:50 PM
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Or rich and famous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:39 PM
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How do you find this man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:24 PM
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If you have more options your perception of attraction shifts, and you become more selective. When any Western woman tells me she can’t find a guy, I automatically translate it as “I couldn’t find a millionaire or Hollywood actor, etc.” Of course, everyone should have standards. But I think most women confuse real values with superficial desires and they don’t comprehend the number of people who will meet these standards and want to be with them. Sometimes this is like some average man is saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:05 PM
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First, the OP is a woman. Second, this is a debate sub, and not all the men in this sub have the same idea about things (men are not monolith). You can have delusional high standards but still find an awful man. Your standards of looks, height, muscle, “decent” job, and income do not always correlate with good or decent traits. Some women will still choose a violent, arrogant man because he has x or he looks like y. That’s usually the main criticism here, nobody saying you shouldn’t have standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:29 PM
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👏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:15 PM
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Who is a “good man” could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:14 PM
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I love basketball, I enjoy watching it, but I don’t like to play it. I’m pro gay rights but I’m no gay. I enjoy porn, I respect sex workers, but I’m not a pornstar and I won’t date one. It’s not complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:41 PM
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I guess no woman in this sub wants to be held accountable for ons, they are all saying that they were heavily drunk at that time. Hmm, It’s interesting, next step would be rape accusations. Lovely Western society really. But the point is taken. ONS doesn't always require higher sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:55 PM
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There is no problem here. Of course, a woman does these, I prefer that actually. In the end, this is becoming a reward by definition. I’m not judging women for being selective. I’m saying that being “selected” as a man is rewarding. It’s simple Why are some “nice guys” complaining? Women have different tastes of partners depending on whether they’re looking for long-term or hookups, or depending on whether they’re ovulating or not, etc. A woman sometimes selects a guy based on superficial traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:42 PM
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Yes. That’s the point. What does “deciding when” means? She is withholding intimacy until favorable conditions happen for her. That’s not a sole timing matter. She expects things, and she’s testing him. Edit: Grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:47 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:40 PM
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I’m sure you have your reasons but that’s independent from the topic, you are still confirming that you see sex as a reward. I know both parties benefit sex and you have to be selective etc, but you still use it as reward. You literally said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:13 PM
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If it is a reward, it’s because women make it that way. Women in the comment section have literally confirmed this. I don’t see the connection with men or misogyny. Wtf is these meaningless spam post from same person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:53 PM
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So in the end, I don't want that type of woman in my life, even as a friend, and I'm looking for meaningful companionship. That's why that type of woman is not the center of my arguments or attention and that's why the positive traits you wrote about "attractive masculinity" seem valid to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:28 PM
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Wait! I thought the Western culture canceled masculinity. Jokes aside, I'm very much with you OP. I think most women, unless they're young and/or looking for hookups, prefer affable AND confident men. But life is life, and there are personality disorders, traumas, daddy issues, attachment types, substance abuse, etc. Some people genuinely love being with assholes. Yesterday I read a comment that said "My type is drug dealer" in r/askwomen (nsfw) sub. Sometimes negative traits like recklessness, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:04 PM
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I agree and I don't know why this is unpopular among comments. If women outnumbered men on dating platforms, those who whine about "hypergamy" would be women, not men. Everyone wants the best option for themselves, and a lot of our standards are relative. If you had better options available and there were abundance your standards would rise accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:53 PM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:19 PM
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a) Yes if you take care of yourself you age better, but an average woman is not Selma Hayek. b) There is a fertility age range and women have a much smaller window. If a man wants a child, +30 women aren't datable for him practically. c) Women tend to date older guys. Men’s dating pool expands as they get older (to a certain extent). These are why time treats men and women differently. Sure there is no real wall and you do not lose your appeal in one day on your 30th birthday, but I can guarante…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:56 PM
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Who says there are more single men than single woman? Edit: Okay, I've looked up Pewresearch latest data on this topic (1). It says younger adults, especially young men, black adults, those without college degrees, and LGBT people are more likely to be single. If you look at their percentages, %62 of gay or bisexual men and %37 of lesbian and bisexual women identified themselves as single. Therefore, some percentage of single younger men come from non-heterosexuals. In addition, women tend to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:01 PM
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Uh... You women and your damn high standards... Now what? Men should have penises?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:53 AM
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It's not a word nor a buzzword, it means rejection of common reality and science, yet you push your theory like it is a hard fact! Some of your saying is true. If you rape a straight woman, she is still straight, or if she is curious and tried something different once she is still straight. But you cannot say she is NOT straight or her orientation is a choice. If you are a queer, it's great, but don't assume everyone is queer and your graphics about fluid orientation are the facts. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:47 AM
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I don’t follow this post-modern theory. Identity, expression, and presentation can be fluid but biology and orientation can’t. Saying that “it’s a spectrum” or “you cannot be %100 gay all the time” is simply assuming everyone is bisexual and it's disregarding gay or straight orientation. It’s devaluating and oversimplification when you say it is "a choice". I know it’s ironic, but the queer theory is in fact homophobic and detachment from reality. If we assume that "anybody, if they simply want …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:52 PM
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We all know that smoking kills and obesity isn’t healthy, but still, people smoke and eat badly. After all, we are not entirely rational beings and regardless of gender sometimes we are not honest to ourselves. Attraction is a layered complex matter. Especially for ONS, some women don’t need niceness. If a woman is out of my league hot and she’s sleeping with me, I would overlook some of her unwanted behavior. Yes, being nice should be minimum, and you should also have other qualities, perhaps s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:06 PM
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I’m sure you use this bs to get straight women’s pants. But don’t say this homophobic sht in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:42 PM
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Nope. Sexual orientation is NOT decision, It’s homophobic to say that is. If a straight woman fucks you and enjoys it she is either bisexual or gay and probably didn’t know it until then. Unless you drug them there is no other option. Sexual orientation is nothing like clothes, you cannot change it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:36 PM
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I do not know the exact term in english but “logic marriage” is a thing in my country, also there are arranged marriages. But in my opinion most of the time; most women want Henry Cavill but there is one Henry Cavill and there is a ticking biological clock so they have to marry with those who underrated from women, so called average men. Interesting thing is attraction sometimes comes with time and companionship. Everyone heard the expression “he grew on me”. All my happily married friends tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:33 PM
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Yes. It's called attraction and consent. Men treat “hot girls” differently too. It's normal and healthy to some extent. Everybody has different tastes. 1) make yourself attractive to people you find attractive as much as possible, 2) date people who find you attractive. Whining, paranoia and insecurity won’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:06 PM
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I am engaged to a wonderful partner, so in the event that I end up out-earning him, we would still make it work. I don’t think economic status is the most important factor, but when we have children I would like to stay home with the kids or at least scale back my work, but if I couldn’t do that we could still find ways that work for our family. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:21 PM
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thats not what the study everyone sites for 80/20 says Okay, What I'm saying is the study (actually it's not a peer-reviewed academic research it's a report from the company) is either outdated and hence lost its relevance or the sample was not representative enough. Because you and I know for sure, that the average (or ugly rated) man isn't the one who gets the majority of attention or messages from women in dating settings. It's such a weak report to draw conclusions. As I said I don't follow …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:15 PM
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1) I agree, OP you should too go offline and touch grass before making statements like all men are dangerous. 2) There is no evidence or data supporting this subreddit feeding violence against women IRL. 3) Obviously you hold a biased view. Reddit has tons of "bitter" women too and radical feminism content is very much allowed. Please go to 2xc or fds subs and tell them to stop being chronically online and toxic. Yes, misandry isn't taken seriously not only online but also IRL, because reverse s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:41 PM
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That's not true tho. I don't know the original research's quality, sample size, and relevance, but it's the opposite of what you're saying in today's dating settings. I don't agree 80/20 and don't agree women only care about looks or money etc. Regardless of gender everyone is capable of making shallow decisions, and everyone will be pleased to choose and have the right to choose "better options" for them. In general, women are more selective (and it's good to be selective) and don't find most g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:40 PM
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Thank you. Sometimes we need retreat; if you find uncomfortable to read specific post or specific subreddits you may consider unsubscribing at least period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:34 PM
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Thank you. These are reasonable, somewhat traditional and fair expectations, and to be honest it’s not hard at all to be “high quality” in terms of your standarts. Well then, what are the overlapped traits of “high quality” women or who is going to date with this quality man? And one more thing: what happens if you date with decent guy and meet your #1 criteria but later you got promoted and started to earn more?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:10 PM
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Yes, it can be discriminative if you are not careful what you speak. "Let's get together online and talk about our bad experiences with black people." How does that sound? And yes same goes for mansrights or other toxic male communities where men talk about "bad experiences with women". Stereotypes, discrimination, sexism, misandry/misogyny, these have clear definitions I suggest you take a look. "I hate all women/men", "All women/men are stupid/hoe", and "All women/men are disgusting to me" the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:52 AM
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👏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:22 AM
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but I think there is some overlap on what most women (if they’re being honest) would agree is “high-quality.” Would you mind if I ask you what are the overlapped traits of "high quality" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:20 AM
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Why not try to date someone who finds you attractive enough to have sex with, and who has the values same as you do? Seriously, don't waste your and your partner's time if you think your partner is double-faced and doesn't find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:57 PM
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I got banned from r/TwoXChromosomes because I tell some posts are sexist or misandrist. Also, I leave r/mansright because there is only misanthropy and sexism. Regardless of gender, there are bad people and also there are decent people. People tend to blame others/other groups for bad things that happened to them and make generalizations. In the right conditions, any subreddit has the potential to become an echo chamber or breeding ground for hateful or discriminative comments. I think negative …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:39 PM
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Misandry and sexism are toxic. Maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:53 PM
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I have decent relations with women. Don't get me wrong I'm still liberal leftist by my region's standards and I do care about women's issues, but real issues like domestic violence, not like "don't use dildo because it's patriarchal", and also I care about men's issues too. In my opinion, the West doesn't have real "left" and Western liberalism has begun to adopt (reverse) sexist, (reverse) racist, and fascist (cancel culture, censorship, etc.) practices. I cannot align with those. ​ "...this wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:56 PM
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Female supremacist agenda has backfired actually, the effect will be visible in ten years. I was liberal until “Men are inherently bad, we don’t need any men, let’s kill all men” narrative becomes rooted in liberal left environment. I can see why there is political division between genders and there will be more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:06 PM
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This is it. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:59 PM
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%110 true. I totally agree with that. %125 maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:24 PM
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“Most committed relationships happen at the end of the 20s. And those women are mostly with men outside the bracket of 18-29… Most 18yo men are children who often do not possess what women are attracted to in men…” I think you have a great speculations for why there is a perceived loneliness gap between genders in younger adults. So your comment proves its a meaningful comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:18 PM
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Individual examples doesn’t always correlate with reality. It’s like rich people telling us economy is ok and poor people have issues or something. That’s a clear fallacy first of all. a) Men and women have different dating experiences. In general Women are much more selective. b) Social media and dating apps influence the social world. Thanks to these now you have access to “better options” if you want to. c) At least in hook-ups or short term dating average or below average men cannot secure a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:00 PM
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It may maybe a different story in the anglosphere, but around the world, it is not easy at all to be a woman. In my country some children are forced to marry older men, domestic violence is not rare, and on average every day at least one woman is a victim of gender homicide unfortunately. Overall no woman feels safe in developing or underdeveloped countries. men have different problems. But loneliness or having a hard time finding hook-ups are nothing to compare with survival issues. But in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:40 PM
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I don't know what or who is Chad really. This is about lonely men supporting the luxury lifestyle of hookers.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 11:01 AM
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re sex workers. I’m sure there are plenty of married women who would be thrilled if their husbands would stop simping for porn stars and every hot woman they see out in public. Excellent point.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 10:56 AM
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re sex workers. I’m sure there are plenty of married women who would be thrilled if their husbands would stop simping for porn stars and every hot woman they see out in public. Excellent point.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 10:56 AM
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Just do not support someone doesn't give a shit about you financially. That's the line, I think it's simple. There is nothing wrong to be accreted to women.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 10:54 AM
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