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Lol ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:39 AM
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I promise you, bud, that’s not enough to make us stockpile men like cows. Men offer that desire—and whatever other assistance—freely. No woman is out there upset at another demographic being dated because “there goes my free money” or whatever. I wrote what’s behind that response, if it occurs at all. It doesn’t in many women. (This sub lovesss painting both women and men as a monolith). Not sure why you cherry-picked the resource comment or what your overarching argument even is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:17 AM
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Ah, yes, the “they must be mentally ill” defense. Truly airtight scholarship there. Source: trust me bro. Genuinely, stop. You’re just sad at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:44 AM
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Well, I don’t know that women enjoy it more. You might! But I think as a whole men are more sex-driven. But OP is an idiot who knows absolutely zip about women. There are plentyyyy of women with high sex drives who enjoy sleeping with whatever men they want to. (I was one of them for most of my sexually active life! Have chilled in the past couple of years, but I doooo still love sex and my seven sex toys haha)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:24 AM
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Yeah, but…I’m not the one who said the seed thing lol. I agree with you (and have been upvoting most of your comments).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:22 AM
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First off, enjoying having sex with men without the end goal being a relationship doesn’t mean we’re out there having sex like that depraved subsection of men you described in your post. My whole argument was that women have sex for MANY reasons other than the idiotic ones you listed. Second off, why is a woman who likes a lot of sex a whore? You’ve got issues, buddy. You’ve avoided engaging with my points again, proving your point of view is groundless. When an argument survives only by ignorin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:16 AM
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I’m…not sure why you’re replying to this comment, I’m sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:00 AM
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Lollll reading comprehension is low today, I see. I’ll spell it out for you because you seem like you need the help: my first words were “this isn’t news.” I don’t know if you understand implications, but this does imply that I am unsurprised by the notion that men are more sexual than women. That’s called a concession of his point in debate terms. I then jumped in to say “however,” (that’s a contrast) “women don’t only have sex for commitment.” My main point followed: women do actually enjoy se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:53 AM
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I’m not talking in hypotheticals. I’m talking in real, lived experience. How many women do you actually know—well enough to have spoken deeply about their sexual experiences? Because I’m willing to bet I know a LOT more than you. Including myself. And I can name a lot more than just one show with female characters like that. And guess what? It’s actually logical to point out that those characters’ popularity with female audiences supports the idea that there are many women who feel similarly, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:41 AM
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Wow. Why not respond to my actual points? That’s generally how debate works. Ask a question afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:21 AM
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The one where I made like three separate points. To address your attempted dig at the “fictional character,” the characters in that show are based off of female archetypes. Allusions are not invaluable, nor should they be dismissed in debate. Characters don’t come from nothing; they’re based off of relatable aspects of society. And Samantha was by far the favorite. Why do you think that would be? And, again. Poly women exist. Non-poly women who have sex with loads of men exist. “304” and “slut” …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:17 AM
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My response to your “women don’t want to sow their seed” comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:07 AM
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Who said that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:03 AM
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Why won’t you respond to my points?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:02 AM
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That’s not true at all hahaha poly women exist, and even amongst non-poly women there are plenty who just enjoy casual sex. Have you heard of Samantha from Sex and the City?? She’s not based off of a myth, lol. How on earth would derogatory terms like “304” and “slut” have been popularized if women were just out there trying to sleep with one guy at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:14 AM
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This….isn’t news. However, women don’t only have sex for commitment lol that’s insane. Women do actually enjoy sex, you know. We’re not as dick-brained as men are, but we have our moments. We’re cyclical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:08 AM
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This analogy only works if each person only needed one cow. Adding: Men aren’t a resource like food. Women aren’t trying to maintain a stockpile of men for winter, lol. What I will say is, sometimes it has to do with a personal feeling of lack of desirability. I know this happens often with interracial dating, for example. I’m Black, and I’ll often see Black men or women getting upset at their preferred gender dating/marrying outside of their race. It’s not that they want that particular person;…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:02 AM
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Your argument only works if every single woman is attracted to the exact same subset of men. You’re predicating your “math” on the exact idea that Stunning Potato is saying is UNtrue. Women have different taste, dude. While I also agree that I’m only attracted to maybe 20-25% of men I encounter, the men that I am attracted to are not the same as the men most my friends like. Maybe a quarter of the time those friends and I will agree that a guy is cute. I have one friend, though, who shares one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:25 PM
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So then the initial poster in the photo is the wrong one. There is no “unless I want you to.” What he should have said (and likely meant) is “don’t check out my body…unless I want you to”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah, play to your strengths lady lmao I absolutely agree with your stance here. Thank you for a good faith debate! One of the best I’ve had on here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:39 PM
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She sounds awful lol I’m surprised you held out as long as you did. More time is intended to sus out patterns like the one this woman displayed. It’s not a definite “we will have sex,” it’s to evaluate if the relationship is a good idea to begin with. So I guess in that vein it’s a gamble from the “I prioritize sex” perspective. I think it’s unfortunate that so many people are swayed by good sex with nothing else. Some women are too (I think these are the ones dating “chads” or whatever?). It al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:36 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:33 PM
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I’m sorry you feel that delaying sex is such a bad thing, but there’s actually a lot of value in it. Someone who wants to take the time to get to know you and have you get to know her before getting physical is wonderful from a relationship standpoint. If all you want is sex and your main goal is sex, and you view the lack of sex (or withdrawing it from the table for a few more dates) as a “punishment” for being seen as relationship material, then, to me, you’re actually not relationship materia…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:11 PM
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The problem is still that you seem to be blaming women for “acting in a way” that results in this “change” in guys over time. Women behave how they behave (also are very much not a monolith so we have to assume they’re all behaving in variable ways in terms of choosing partners), men behave how they behave. Both groups react to one another’s behavior as they encounter a specific individual. The onus of how men react is not on women. Even if the current state of things is “harder to get a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:06 PM
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That’s just your opinion. Sometimes the lattes are poop flavored; most customers learn their lesson and move on. Sometimes they’re fantastic. That’s literally just the nature of shopping. If the customers like the lattes or hate the lattes, they’re still going to do what they want to do. There’s not much point trying to convince people otherwise. The only thing you can change is your own menu. Maybe invest in some ads. You get it. Or maybe consider just sticking to your own menu, knowing it’s gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:43 PM
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I don’t understand. Where did I say that? Or, I guess more accurately, why do you not think it’s a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:32 PM
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So, by your logic, if you were a coffee shop trying to get customers, and the customers preferred to go to a different coffee shop because they liked the menu items better—which then caused many other coffee shops to change their menus too, and they got more customers—but you still didn’t have any, you think that’s the customers’ fault because they somehow MADE the coffee shops change their menus? It’s all on the customers, huh? Do you see how insane this rationale is? They just want a nice godd…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:25 PM
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Yeah, “sex as a reward” or “no sex as a punishment” thinking guys are a huge red flag. Plus OP is reframing everything to make it like it’s women’s fault for just choosing who they want to date or hookup with. “Behaving in a way that incentivizes” like what?? The problem is the mindset of constantly trying to get sex from women even BEING the incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:45 PM
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Yeahhh people vary, despite statistics. Most of us make no sense hahaha. But it seems like that’ll pay off quiiiite a bit for you down the road at least! There are other ways to appeal to women your age than just your face also! Highly highly recommend joining a group or attending a meetup that a lot of women go to and befriending a few. At best, you’ll meet someone there you like and bam! At worst, you’ll get some new friends and maybe get introduced to their friends. Worth a shot at any rate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:08 PM
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Okay, but you’re one person? How can you claim I, and my friends/acquaintances are an outlier based on one piece of anecdotal evidence? Especially with proof in the form of millions of obsessed female fans of kpop stars, pretty famous actors and singers, etc, to the contrary? Maybe you’re not that androgynous or pretty, I dunno. No offense meant. It could be anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:50 PM
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What basis do you have for this wild claim? Also wait what is emasculating degenerate shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:39 PM
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Just for looking a certain way? That’s pretty toxic and shitty. But sure, maybe it’s dependent on location. Kpop is a good metric here—a VERY large portion of the boy groups’ fans are 25 and up (and I mean UP), and this is true internationally. Most countries have women over 25 who are attracted to androgynous and pretty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:10 PM
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Meet me and my friend group lmao we’re all late twenties/early 30s. The only reason you think it’s just teenagers has to be through social media or something like that, but get boots on the ground and you’ll find a pretty sizeable chunk of women out there like androgynous, pretty men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:33 PM
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I’m mostly referring to your last line, “and you wonder why I think I am better than you” I think there’s quite a large difference between being intelligent/superior, thinking you’re intelligent/superior, and being mean. Essentially I was asking if you’re this mean to people in your day to day life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:22 PM
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Accountability doesn’t mean accepting blame for your projections. It means owning your actual actions. I’m doing that. You’re not. You’re just yelling “accountability”because I won’t validate your bitterness. You’ve said the same thing 10 different ways and still haven’t made a point. Enjoy your echo chamber. I’m done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:56 PM
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Reading comprehension = 0
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:20 PM
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Mmkay 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:09 PM
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Just curious, do you talk this way IRL or just on Reddit? Genuinely curious—I’ve enjoyed reading most of your comments
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:29 PM
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Some people are just arrogant, it does take a lot more to cross into narcissist terrain. That being said, I also agree with everything he’s saying lol he’s been a delight to read
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:28 PM
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You keep saying I’m shallow because I could have swiped left on someone I ended up liking in person. But do you hear yourself? That logic makes zero sense. You’re treating dating apps—platforms literally built to encourage snap judgments based on filtered pics and curated bios—as the true measure of someone’s depth or intentions. That’s like saying someone who skips a book based on its cover can’t possibly appreciate good storytelling later. No. It just means the format didn’t highlight the subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:06 PM
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No one here (aka me) has even said they do that. For the second time , dating apps are ONE DIMENSIONAL. The fact that you keep bringing this up shows that you’re just holding onto this belief, irrespective of its actual validity (and especially in the face of people saying they DON’T think that way), because it keeps your anger going. You’re holding onto so much rage and directing it at fictional women with made up behaviors that you can blame for an outcome that you don’t like. It’s not true. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:01 PM
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Lmaoooo who hurt you? All it means is that online dating doesn’t put every man’s (or woman’s) best foot forward. In person? Wildly attractive, super cute guy. In a photo, still capture of his face? Not great. Idk what to tell you. He doesn’t take good pictures. But he’s great in person. I don’t see how that’s worse, but then again, I don’t have whatever insecurity this is that you’ve built your anger around
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:50 PM
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Not you trying to dictate how other people “should” behave to meet some goalpost YOU invented 🙄🙄 Everyone is at least a little shallow, bro. No one is debating that. My whole point is that online dating capitalizes on that and encourages the behavior to monetize it. Get help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:47 PM
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Broooo I literally said I never even saw him on a dating app you’re just making stuff up now!! I found him attractive in real life. You’re so far gone, I genuinely hope you get some help. You’re never going to have healthy relationships with others OR yourself if you keep going this way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:38 PM
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It’s wild that you keep talking about “taking responsibility” like I admitted to being shallow. I didn’t—because I’m not. Being mindful of the ways that platforms influence behavior isn’t deflection; it’s awareness. I’m not saying shallow people don’t exist. I’m saying dating apps are literally built to encourage and reward shallow thinking. Fast swipes. Snap judgments. Dopamine hits. That’s not a personality flaw, that’s user conditioning by design. What you’re doing is ignoring nuance so you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:36 PM
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‘Your feelings are not an argument’ — wild thing to say after repeatedly dismissing real-world examples from multiple people in favor of your own assumptions. I didn’t present feelings—I shared lived experiences that directly contradict your claims. That is a form of argument, whether you like it or not. Also, dating apps are literally designed to hijack your reward system and reduce people to images. That’s not ‘shallow people,’ that’s intentional platform design. And if someone ends up liking …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:31 PM
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Also, I think, by definition, being attracted to and having a crush on someone you wouldn’t have swiped on PROVES a person is not inherently shallow, but that dating apps activate a part of our brain that favors instant gratification and pattern recognition over genuine curiosity and connection. Attraction in real life develops in far more complex and meaningful ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:19 PM
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You are making a wild amount of assumptions, my guy, and using them to ignore my points and forge ahead with your own seemingly immutable opinions. I know what I want, lmao. That’s a crazy thing to accuse. And how to get to know people…what? Unsure where you even got that one from. Please point out where I said I assume I know someone from a picture. I literally said OLD is one dimensional—a picture (and profile) does not give any more than a surface level idea of who a person is. I don’t unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:16 PM
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I would actually argue against this. There are men I’ve had crushes on from my in person interactions and I’ve told friends I would probably not have swiped right on them on an app, and they’ve shared similar stories. Apps are one dimensional; in person is three. Granted, I never saw these guys on an app so I never actually swiped left, but my crushes on them were definitely NOT settling. I think you’re a tad jaded, respectfully. Dating apps MAKE people shallow, but in person interactions are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:06 PM
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I wouldn’t mind being approached at a cafe, but I agree with people that you want some signal that she’s open to it. Make eye contact a couple times, smile—if she smiles back, you’re good! When you talk to her, try to learn something about what she’s working on or what kind of person she is—don’t just tell her “I think you’re pretty.” That can be a turn off, because many women don’t like feeling like guys are only interested in their looks. Way better to say something about what you learned abou…
/r/seduction07/06/25 02:56 PM
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Whew, boy. I have a couple points here. 1) I most certainly am NOT telling you I would leave in that scenario. That wasn’t even the scenario I was talking about. And I said that i, personally, would be open to having a discussion in the case of what I actually WAS talking about. But it’s different for everyone. 2) No one is judging. I have not made any claims about this hypothetical man’s character whatsoever. Men who don’t want to date a woman with a promiscuous past ARE judging them. Listen to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:30 PM
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Yes, I absolutely agree. It’s about what people are willing to compromise on and what they’re not. If OP is not okay with his gf going out to clubs, but she wants to continue to do it, then they’re just not compatible. Trying to get her to “listen to him” and stop going is being controlling, because it ignores her wishes and is just about soothing his insecurities. If a couple can work out their issues on topics like these and come to a compromise both are okay with, then that’s a good relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:47 PM
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Punishment is just one aspect of controlling in a relationship, actually. And I think you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:28 PM
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That’s her whole point. You don’t go into a relationship trying to change the other person. She doesn’t want to date someone who goes to strip clubs. That’s a personal preference. So it’s a dealbreaker for her. That’s how dealbreakers work—if I started dating someone and found out they were a hunter, I would stop dating them. Great that they would stop now that they’re dating me, sure, and the changes someone is willing to make for someone they want to be with are important to take into account.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:24 PM
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I think it’s fair to say that people push back because, as humans, we have a weird need to validate our opinions by getting others to admit they also feel that way. So, when we see someone who DOESN’T, it becomes really important for these humans to prove them wrong. Some humans can understand that, like u/toasterchild said, what someone else claims makes them happy has no bearing on their own experience. Others, unfortunately, are consumed by the desire to get everyone else to see things the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:18 AM
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I’m so sorry, but how on earth did you come to the conclusion that this man was too good for her?? You just pulled that out of nowhere my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:09 AM
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Lmao what an attempt at deflection 😂 List seven. No, list five. Just five. Engagement isn’t dependent on everyone listing sources oh my gosh. YOU came back at my message by saying I shouldn’t have assumed your only source was the manosphere. That’s why I’m asking what your sources are then. If you’re so mad I assumed, then tell me why I was wrong to do so. What are your sources? It’s not that difficult to understand. So if it’s taboo and rare, why would you expect to see more of it here? My ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:29 AM
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Lmaooo you can’t!! You’re absolutely hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:24 AM
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How were they used incorrectly? Define them and show me where they were used incorrectly lmao I beg you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:38 PM
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Brooooo get a hobby you’re actually insane
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:09 PM
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None of my words have been used incorrectly lmaoooo you must be drunk Thanks for another prime example of asinine commenting; please keep it coming
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:08 PM
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Bro you just brought up Womanosphere are you daft? 😆😆 And, yes, good boy, that is how new words get added to the English language, so proud of you! Enough people use a term with an understanding of what it means, and that term becomes a word! You can google both and see that they’ve been used and they have shared understandings of their meanings. I know it hurts you and you’d rather pretend it doesn’t exist, but that’s actually called coping. And it’s unhealthy. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:22 PM
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It’s actually not suffice to say, lol, your whole attempt to undermine me was to say I was wrong for assuming you got your info from the manosphere. Alright, bet. Then where do you get it from? List your sources. Otherwise why even engage? Your second point is a little disingenuous. Non-monogamy is not really taboo anymore, number one, and I’d love to know where you got the data on non-monogamous people “hiding” in monogamous relationships. But, ultimately, it’s just left me wondering what point…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:19 PM
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Fair. Where do you get your information from? My point still stands, however. Granted, Reddit is a small sample size of the population, but non-monogamous people are also a small portion of it. So, this seems to accurately reflect the diversity of the population after all. I’ve seen two non-monogamous responses, and I haven’t scrolled through more than half of the comments. Seems about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:21 PM
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Maybe that’s because not as many people do it as you thought (read: were fed be podcasts and the manosphere)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:16 PM
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You are, of course, free to think that way, but that’s not always the case at all. I’ve read several other commenters who have given valid reasons why a woman would delay sex, so I won’t repeat them here. But, I get it, you’re looking for that strong attraction from someone, so if that’s what you want, your practice of losing interest or ending things with someone who doesn’t want sex right away will probably get you there eventually! I saw you write somewhere that you’re not looking for a LTR t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:21 PM
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You can be viscerally attracted to someone and still hold off on the sex—that’s literally the other commenter’s point. It’s down to self control and lack thereof, but neither is a direct indicator of sexual attraction, honestly. People have sex quickly with people they’re not that attracted to all the time, just because they want sex. What is the goal here? If you genuinely believe there is no possible way a woman who wants to wait can be strongly sexually attracted to you, then it’s really you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:49 PM
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Came here to say this as well! I hope he can change, start seeing women as people, and begin to let go of this hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:53 PM
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You’re a man, I’m willing to bet money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:55 AM
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Lol okay ouch. There’s no way for me to prove this to you, so you go ahead and assume what you’d like to. I’m not sure anyone can say why their type is their type, to be fair. I don’t know why I don’t really like big muscles. I don’t know why I think glasses are attractive. I don’t know why I’m more attracted to Asian and white guys, even though I’m black. No clue! Why do I think certain faces are pretty, and my friends don’t agree? Why does my best friend prefer black and Latino guys, and she’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:48 PM
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Absolutely, but that’s not really relevant to what we were talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:37 AM
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I wasn’t asking for advice hahahahah. But I appreciate that you seem well meaning. I hope you develop a less bleak view of human interaction one day!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:33 AM
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We’re gonna have to agree to disagree here. I think all people are unique. And, while “deserve” is a little too strong of a word, I certainly thing you’re worthy of love, companionship, kindness, etc. Generalizing is never gonna get you the results you want. Interactions are all individual to individual. But I wish you and all similarly-minded men good luck anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:23 AM
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….entitled to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:09 AM
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That’s just untrue and I can’t believe that’s what you chose to reply to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:03 AM
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Hey, disagree away. This is a space for debate. You’ve made a number of incorrect assumptions, however, that are displaying a lack of grasp of my point. I am not afraid of being perceived as entitled. I just rarely am, because I know how to be assertive without overstepping others’ boundaries. Receiving a sandwich you paid for in a timely manner isn’t respect…..and the restaurant or store having a backlog and busy employees and delaying your meal’s arrival most certainly isn’t DISrespect. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:44 AM
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End of discussion?? Lmao. Mutually wanting each other doesn’t make a successful relationship. Not even a little. All of my experiences, no. I’ve had several LTRs, and a few shorter ones with full commitment that didn’t work out for one or a few reasons. It kind of sounds like you think once you start dating someone, everything goes perfectly afterwards and you’re all done? Idk why you’re saying/asking these things. I have never asked someone who wasn’t interested in committing why they didn’t wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:38 AM
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Oof that part about most guys being invisible hit me. That’s true in a lot of ways, and I can’t imagine how it feels. The best I have is my high school crush, and that sucked. But thank you for acknowledging the whole “women are not a monolith” idea. I want to push back on the bad dick and bar is in hell comments. For me and, I’d venture to say, most women (esp non influencers and that type, etc), it’s not a string of bad dick. It’s poor communication, lack of effort, low emotional intelligence,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:30 AM
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Ehh, I think we’re sliding into semantics here and losing sight of the point. Acting entitled to something—indeed believing you’re entitled to something—is inherently negative. There are far more positive ways to go for the things you want, have worked for, and feel you deserve than acting as if you’re entitled to them. Especially when they involve someone else’s consent or willingness. Or really anything out of your control. If you pay for a sandwich, you’re entitled to that sandwich. But getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:19 AM
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Thank you!! quote quote quote
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:01 AM
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Studying for a test is not the same as trying to get a relationship at all. You can control the grade you get by how much and how well you study. You can’t control someone else’s interest in you, no matter what you do for yourself. You are not entitled to a relationship no matter how much effort you put in. There’s another human involved. Believing you deserve something that’s outside of your control is one of the biggest instances of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:56 AM
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Okay, you have to admit that’s a bit misleading. How did you meet them through dating? Like, friends of the women you dated or something? But, fair, women like that do exist. And men exist who are happy to pay for everything for them. They can have each other!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:43 AM
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You also said 30+ women you dated…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:38 AM
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I mean, I’ve heard the logic from some men on here that women are “choosing the wrong men,” so have you considered that you’re choosing the wrong women? Maybe you’re attracted to that type and you don’t realize it. I also have not met any gold diggers. I have one friend who says she wants “princess treatment,” which I assume is quite adjacent, but she also is working hard at her career and to build wealth for herself. If you keep running into this type, instead of trying to intimate that it’s wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:35 AM
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Absolutely valid! Agreed. But we can’t ignore all the spaces where they don’t. I’m thinking about all of my closest female friends and, I gotta tell you, ours only overlap on ridiculously attractive celebrities like Henry Cavill and some K-Pop stars—and even then, I’ve got friends who disagree with one or both of those. I think the strength and success comes from playing to those discrepancies, rather than bemoaning the areas of overlap. Like, c’mon, there’s nothing to be done about Henry. The m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:29 AM
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I’m relatively new to commenting on reddit so I don’t know how to quote text like you did, BUT! It was “do the men you want want you?” Which would be generalizing all the men that I want. I was trying to clarify that SOME of them do. It’s not a general concept. I am dating a guy that I find really attractive and fun and funny right now, yes. Not in a relationship yet (3 dates in), but I’m excited. And, again, definitely not “top tier” Oh my gosh YES I do!! Lmao my best friend and I complain abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:23 AM
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If you want friendships to form, it’s gonna take more than just meeting them one time at one event. It takes repeated interaction on top of similar compatibility and an actual interest to have another friend. That’s a lot up in the air! I recently went on a friend making spree, as I was feeling pretty isolated in my huge city. I went to all kinds of Meetups and chatted with other women and it took a reaaaalllly long time before I met people that checked all of those boxes. And, of the hundreds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:18 AM
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PLEASE stop generalizing. Lmao. I don’t get why you don’t get how that does nothing for discussion and is just inherently a fallacious way to form an opinion or argument. Sometimes the guys I want also want me. Sometimes they don’t. I’m not every guy’s type, just like not every guy is MY type. I’m get told daily that I’m beautiful and asked if I model (I’m very tall), and my dating app likes are around 3000 on bumble right now—this is all just to illustrate that, while men generally like me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:09 AM
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Alright, sir, please ignore all of the men spouting stuff about “top tier” men and “80%” this or “20%” that. First off, these are MEN trying to answer a question about WOMEN. Second, anyone trying to generalize the opinions, decisions, or choices of an entire demographic as if we’re a giant hive mind is just inherently wrong. I’m not saying SOME women don’t act in these ways or want the things they’re mad at them for wanting. Sure. But the vast majority of women I know, have met, or just interac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:03 AM
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There is no generic top 20% guys what are you talking about?? Women are attracted to different things. Yes, we want to date someone we’re attracted to. Yes, we want OUR top 20%. But why are you guys talking like MY top 20 would be the exact same as every other woman’s? Because it’s literally not lmao. That’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:42 PM
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She didn’t say ANY of that lmao you’re just parroting your own opinions in there. I’m picky too, but I don’t want any of that. Picky just means you have a type. My best friend’s type is veryyyy different from mine (she doesn’t even care about education level, for example), but she isn’t really interested in guys that fall far outside of that type. My type tends to be on the scrawny side, nerdy, plays video games, and has an intellectual side/at least a bachelor’s degree. And a face that I find “…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:41 PM
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To be honest, it seems like you really misunderstood the point of the man vs bear question. No one was saying all men are dangerous. The whole point was that we can’t tell until it’s too late a lot of the time, so the risk is more insidious. Someone gave a great analogy, saying they put a box of snakes in front of you, and said, hey, only a few of these snakes are venomous. Would you still feel comfortable sticking your hand in the box?? (Ignoring any misgivings you might have about snakes as cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:52 PM
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I mean, I suppose it works if the guy is genuinely interested in you, but for me, all it did was let the guy know he could wait even longer before responding to me. Like, it widened the appropriate texting window. And made space for them to eventually either stop responding altogether or send that eventual “look, this has been fun…” text. Either way, I’m not interested in playing games and trying to manipulate any more. It didn’t make me feel any better, and I’d imagine it wouldn’t make a good g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:43 PM
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Yes, I know. My point is literally why even bring this up as it’s still not a majority!! It doesn’t prove that side any more than my using my personal experience proves mine. Can we just agree that there’s enough diversity among human women that trying to generalize a preference, behavior, or desire is just gonna be inherently incorrect? I swear, that’s the biggest issue with all the “pills” these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:30 PM
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So all women on earth use dating apps? And of the 100% of women on dating apps, 24% date for validation….so that’s still not a majority. Even accounting for the fallacy of “all” women being on dating apps…24% is never “most.” My point wasn’t that my experience was a representation of all women, either. My point was just that saying “most” is inaccurate. You seem to think you know women pretty well? Lie under pressure??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:34 AM
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I don’t know anyone who says all men are dangerous, either. That’s very odd. I’m sorry women have called you creepy for wanting a long term relationship. I honestly wish I met more guys like you. That’s really sweet. (Ignoring the “all men are dangerous” part because that’s an orange flag for me lmao) Idk how many women that was, but I can guarantee you it was not a majority. I’m sure there are other factors like your city and the demographic you date, etc, that have contributed to your view, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:00 AM
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On the women’s side, I honestly could not tell you. I’ve dated multiple guys who’ve done the exact same things as your first and third examples, and guys who made plans for dates, reservations etc, then just ghost the day of (which is the closest equivalent to your shitty lady not even coming outside that I can get to—I’ve never gone to a venue and been fully stood up but I’m sure I would have been if I’d actually gone to those dates). These aren’t exactly games, but they’re certainly shitty beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:41 AM
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This ^ Those were shitty women being shitty for whatever reasons. But not games. The idea behind playing “games” when dating is to get the person to like you more—or to lose interest. But these usually require a significant time investment, certainly not a hookup or two or a first date. Like, the extent of the games I’ve played have been intentionally not communicating with someone I was seeing because I wanted them to miss/want me, or I was feeling ignored by them and wanted to return the favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:32 AM
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No. Untrue. And using the blanket “women” isn’t the way to go about getting information, anyway. We’re all separate individuals, not a conglomerate. Anyway, none of the women I know are dating just for attention or sex or whatever OC was saying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:27 AM
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I don’t know that most women just date for attention. Everyone I know is either in a LTR or is seeking one actively. Actually, no, I also know a few who are currently on pause and celibate, and not dating anyone. I don’t know any women who are dating just for attention or to feel validated. That’s not to say no women do that, but I think it’s disingenuous to try to ascribe that to “most” women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:25 AM
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Actually, systemic in this case is not just about laws and policies. Systemic refers to oppression that is perpetuated by inequities within interconnected systems, such as political, economic, and social. It infuses every facet of society—it boils down as deeply as the stereotypes and common conceptions we hold, whether or not we are aware of them, and these can trickle back up into hiring practices, wage offerings, medical care, television/film representation, and so much more. Both systemic ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:34 AM
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Sorry, uh, I asked you to explain the problem with the female lens and somehow we’ve ended up here. But I guess I’ll engage. Not all women (or men) look down on sex work. There’s a growing trend of left leaning people recognizing and legitimizing the work, and fighting against its negative preconceptions. The two suppositions you provide about why women might not like it are wildly, wildly postulated. Just because it makes sense to you, or even if you’ve heard it from a few of your female friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:54 AM
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Alright lmao I guess I’ll take your word for it, what with all of your years of experience as an actual woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:45 AM
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*peg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:12 AM
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That’s a question haha but sure! Sex work is the oldest profession, but it has been used as a vehicle for men to shame, slander, discredit, abuse, and murder women for centuries. To this day, men use the term as an insult to women, to demean them, to knock them down a leg, and therefore to reassert some sort of sense of superiority over them. Trying to slut shame a woman is one of the most quintessential routes men take that establish patriarchal values. And it’s almost always used as an excuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:11 AM
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I mean, not many women will actually verbally say that they are as their makeup or dress establishes them…my point is that men will actually say things that hide their true intents, natures, views, etc. But also the examples you brought up are all appearance based, and I was asking about the other lies you mentioned too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:02 AM
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Can you explain to me what the problem is with this female lens?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:59 AM
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I’ll give you the undying love lie as a negative (but also men do that too), but is number of sexual partners, why you’re with the guy, and if you wear makeup really that much of a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:48 AM
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I agree, but I think historically women have been reduced to their attractiveness and suitability for bearing children, so it tends to be an extra sore spot for us. Just more garbage getting in the way of what most humans long for, yunno. Ugh, that’s so true. People really don’t care to learn what’s behind appearances unless they like said appearances. I hear you. But to be honest, for me at least, hearing that someone has a savings plan and is cutting corners now to save for something bigger an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:59 AM
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True! I don’t want to diminish your experience, and it’s clearly a common one. It happens, and of course there are women out there who take advantage of that sort of situation. The alternate side of that equation is when the guy friend was never really a “friend” to begin with because they just wanted to sleep with their female friend. So the “friendship” is rife with underhanded passes made, subtle negging of the woman and their romantic interests, etc, all as a form of discreet manipulative at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:07 AM
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Very solid points, honestly. I don’t think this is a pissing contest or anything, but I wanted to clarify some things in response to what you said. While some of the things I listed aren’t specific to just men, I think that, because men are considered potential threats to us until they’re not, the possibility of lying feels more insidious and scary. At least, it can for some women. A lot of women. While your friend zone story is one that I’m sure a good portion of men in that situation would ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:12 AM
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My list turned into a paragraph I apologize lol I’m relatively new to Reddit commenting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:46 AM
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Yes of course! There are so many to choose from. Examples: Actual height Actual political/ethical views Actual views on women as people and/or sex objects Hiding anger issues Hiding abusive tendencies Hiding desire to “possess” their partner Actual job or income Hiding infidelity Hiding intent to SA Hiding desire to sleep with (also known as “friend zone” in certain circles and “being a nice guy” in others) I’ve only listed a few, but you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:45 AM
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Dude. The forest. You’re drawing conclusions that you wanted to and that you already think. I never said anything except to stay on point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:41 AM
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My comment wasn’t meant to imply it’s not actual; I just wanted to lean into the implications of experience and reaction. But you’re absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:40 AM
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I think you’re losing sight of the forest for the trees, sir
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:06 AM
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Calling a woman a whore is veryyyy different from calling a man a dick, first off. There’s a whole host of difference in meaning, history, use, and weaponization. Outside of that, I think your use of the word “hate” to begin with is not exactly accurate. Definitely too strong of a word, which is why I switched to “dislike” as I continued to write. Lastly, if you think men being mean to women in the same ways that they’re mean to men is really what equality is or means, and you’re truly not jokin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:41 PM
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Eh, I don’t know, I’m a feminist and I think you’re right here. Now, if you had just said “women lie more” and nothing else, I might push back. But that has more to do with backing up your claim than any sort of perceived attack on women. I also think there’s some internal pushback on my end because I think men tend to lie the most when it’s TO women, and that the repercussions of those lies can be dangerous and deadly. So I’m comparing, I guess, severity of lie more so than frequency. It’s very…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:34 PM
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Calling women you don’t even know “whores and bitches” isn’t hate?? I think what you said about men lashing out with hurt and frustration is veryyyy similar to what’s happening with women these days. Women feel oppressed by societal expectations, largely perpetuated by men, wherein they just can’t win. If they don’t sleep with the man they’re dating, they’re a prude. If they do, they’re a whore adding to her body count and getting “loose” (not really a thing btw). If they are selective about a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:22 PM
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By whose standards though? C’mon, humans are different, and have different tastes. Tbh I model and act, and have been ranked highly on that stupid 1-10 scale, but I still get ghosted and have been rejected by men in person as well. I’m not everyone’s type. No one is. You’re not looking to pull the whole room. And, as far as dating apps go, there’s a lot that can get in the way of someone seeing your best, so it could just be an unsuccessful profile. Lastly, can’t forget about personality and com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:35 PM
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That’s both an unfair and illogical assessment, sir. I’m not lying. I can’t speak to how you look, and have no idea what your dating profile looks like, but I’m sure you’re not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:14 PM
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You know, I completely agree with you on all counts. I feel like this problem has roots of issues on both sides in terms of behavior/mindset, and the people that tend to fall through the cracks and fail to meet anyone are generally the ones actually looking to meet the whole person. Your app idea sounds great, haha—if you’ve got any knowledge of how to get one started, you should go for it! The market is ready. I know I’d sign up. But, seriously, you’re right. Some men really need help with sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:12 PM
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10% is actually a little too generous lmao I live in LA it’s like 7%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:58 PM
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That’s actually not true haha, my friends constantly joke about my taste in guys. It’s pretty flexible. I swipe on men that I’m attracted to, yes, but I’ve swiped on men that my friends went “umm, okay…” to. AND I’ve been ghosted by some of those men. That’s not to say all of them! I’d say about 10% of my matches end up as dates recently. But no, definitely been ghosted by a spectrum of conventional attractiveness. However, that’s just conventional, not my taste. Handsome to you might not be han…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:56 PM
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I think that’s a fair point! I’ve definitely met and been attracted to/interested in men that I would never have swiped right on on a dating app. I’m not picky, per se—I’d like to be attracted to the guy, would like him to be educated, kind, passionate/ambitious about something, and ideally enjoy one or two of my hobbies. The hardest thing for me is that I’m six feet tall, so I do have a bit of a height requirement (the shortest I’ll go is 5’ 10). But I think that’s fair lol. Most of my friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:47 PM
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I’m curious what that has to do with either my point or OP’s question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:37 PM
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Please reread
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:36 AM
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That was….my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:35 AM
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Comparing interactions in real life with those on dating apps is really unsound. Dating apps are like miniature, blurry snapshots of a person. You only have a brief time to make a good impression on both ends. Starting a dating app conversation with the run of the mill “hey” is, generally, thought of as a low-rent move. It doesn’t start the conversation in any meaningful way. You aren’t asking any questions that can prompt a response to keep things going. The amount of effort it takes to think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:32 AM
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Getting matches is definitely easier for women due simply to scarcity and demand, but I think what happens after matching is generally a hot pile of 💩 The general mindset for all users these days is that they can do better, so most conversations end in ghosting on one or both sides. So, to that end, it’s like what is even the point of making matches more easily? Add on top of that the need to message first, and I definitely understand why women were complaining. I hated it too, but mostly becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:04 AM
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🤦🏾‍♀️ Dude, how is that relevant?? You’re completely abandoning your argument to chase after straw men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:44 PM
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So, you realize anecdotal experience is the worst possible way to try and back up a claim, right? There are women who bodybuild, and women who are in the military, the Olympics, etc. numerous other examples. It’s entirely possible for a woman to be born tall and large enough, and to get strong enough to complete these jobs (I should know; I’m six feet tall lmao). And, barring physical strength, there are more than enough highly intelligent women to figure out ways to get around any issues that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:43 PM
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Dude, I said a significant amount more than that. That wasn’t even my point. Way to ignore the point entirely smh why don’t you try actually responding to the part that continues the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:19 PM
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….no I wasn’t, lol. Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:14 PM
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Right, but you also said something about controlling size? And I didn’t say that? Nor did I say or imply that animals change their size to attract mates. So I explained exactly what I was saying and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:12 AM
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Are you trying to say you don’t think it’s at all possible for women to do the jobs if there was a sudden need? My hypothetical was a situation in which men suddenly stopped doing them. Is that what you’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:10 AM
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I…I gotta be honest, I don’t think you understood what I said, because that’s very much not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:09 AM
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Yes. You said in your initial post that there is “no other species” that exhibits such traits. I was pointing out that this was incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:08 AM
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Also, interestingly enough, there are examples in nature where the female is more flamboyant than the male of the species. The Eclectus parrot is one such example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:06 AM
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That’s all well and good for you (and pretty impressive tbh), but the fact of the matter is that most men don’t do jobs like that. So trying to extrapolate a need for men in general, simply because a few men (and a few women!) perform such jobs, is a fallacious argument. Especially given that those jobs are, as you agreed, for society as a whole. Just because we benefit from something doesn’t mean we’re dependent on the people who give it to us. I benefit from skin care products; however, I’m no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:02 AM
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Your entire initial argument had nothing to do with size—that’s what I’m saying. I didn’t say anything about controlling size. My point is that you were talking about “showing off” to attract mates in both humans and other animals. So, by quoting facts about the sizes of animals to counter my point about there only being a handful of species in nature who actually do that (and, therefore, it’s not actually a useful metric or comparison for mating behavior in all of us as a whole), you weren’t ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:55 AM
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What are you talking about lmao. It sounds like you are regurgitating talking points. Who are these vague, amorphous “men” you speak of? Do you personally protect money or refine oil or pave roads?? What on earth. The people (and I say people very intentionally) who perform those jobs don’t do so to protect women. They do it for society. Society depends on having these roles filled in order to function as it has. And, while they have been roles traditionally filled by men—for a whole litany of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:57 AM
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It’s not about size lol what…your whole point was about male members of certain species having to be the ones who work to attract the females through varying displays of peacockery. While some animals do have competitions of strength to decide which is the “victor” (i.e. beats the others and gets to mate), this is male selection, not female. Please try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:52 AM
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Untrue. There are many species of animal that don’t display sexual dimorphism and the males and females look exactly alike (cats, dogs, giraffes, horses, turtles, etc etc). It’s not exactly a good metric here. Also, the only reason why women “depend” on men these days is not because of a “natural” system. It’s because of the cage placed on them by the patriarchy (women couldn’t have bank accounts, couldn’t own property, no equal wages, “married off” culture, etc). We’re JUST getting to the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:32 PM
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