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False Accusationkatherinesummers/r/MensRights22/06/21 06:36 AM
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Feminismkatherinesummers/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:49 AM
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So... I have a few takes on this. (I am trying to explain the internal logic of these views, not condone them) A man is expected to protect/provide for his partner. If his partner cheats on him, he could be seen as inadequate. He is not providing for her as she should and so she must go have her needs met elsewhere. A man is expected to be in charge and in control of his family. If a woman strays, he was not keeping a close enough eye on her. When women cheat in media, it is often portrayed as a…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:38 AM
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Thank you for sharing this! This is a really cool thing. I mean, all these points make sense. The AI is designed to pull from hundreds of different sources and immalgamate them into conversational points. There have been many sources and texts that acknowledge this issue. I think it's a really positive thing that when exposed to a variety of texts and sources that an AI can pull this out of their hat, especially when the tool is partly educational. It's nice to see this sort of thing shown as "c…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:25 AM
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With respect, I don't think it's victimless, or shown as funny or mildly embarassingly. I think that the scene is horrifying. Mei-mei is mortified and almost traumatised (given her reaction to her mother in the car afterwards). The boy is confused at first and then alarmed. The whispering and the giggling and mocking from the other people in the shop are emphasised in a frightening and overwhelming way, like a horror film. The mother is shown as abusive, completely taking away Mei Mei's agency a…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:14 AM
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So this is a problem that I think about a lot. I see so many young men suffer from crippling loneliness and it really hurts their mental health. As someone who cares about men, and as someone who thinks about and studies mental health, I wonder how this can even be addressed. It seems such a difficult and hopeless issue. I think it's a societal responsibility to address this somehow, but it's not the personal responsibility of any one person. I'd be really curious to hear suggestions/takes/solut…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:04 AM
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So... I kind of agree with both statements. However, I feel like there's not such a clear binary between "sexist" and "not sexist". Someone who is non-malevolent to men isn't necessarily an MRA. To me, an MRA is someone who is educated in the specific social and legal inequalities that men face and advocate or agitate for change. It's the difference between non-hostility and support. Additionally you can have someone who is an MRA who is mildly interested in the cause and casually participates a…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 10:58 AM
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Thank you! I haven't yet submitted my essay so this is still helpful!
/r/Male_Studies18/10/22 07:47 AM
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I might be asking this too late, but I'm looking for sources for an essay I am working on regarding how the practice of diagnosis has harmed or benefitted service users within psychiatry services historically. I have some evidence of feminists criticising diagnoses as something that has been used to limit and harm women as well as evidence that this claim is not backed up. What I'm interested in finding is evidence of mens experiences of diagnosis and how it has effected them (either through sti…
/r/Male_Studies13/10/22 10:43 AM
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In that case, I would point to the vast differences that exist between the political class of men that run our countries, and the working class men who are the majority of the population. I think that a big reason why men in power make decisions that hurt other men is because they don't really have anything in common with most men. Your average joe might as well be an alien to a wealthy politician or the corporate leaders who influence political policy in America. So my answer to that problem wo…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:44 PM
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You're right. I think it is high time that men have a strong, cohesive and politically present movement that represents mens interests. And frankly, I'm frustrated by feminists that try to shut that down. I think it comes from a reactionary position rooted in fear. I think that a lot of feminists are afraid that if men gather together collective power, women will lose influence and power. However, that doens't have to happen. As I said, our liberation and advancement can and should be mutual. I …
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:39 PM
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I'm sorry. I know mens rights advocates who have had really toxic and harmful interactions with feminists. I'm not going to pretend that that doesn't happen, or try to hide behind the "they aren't real feminists" line. You've likely heard it all before. So I just want to acknowledge your experience as real and valid. When people are cruel, dismissive or reactionary, it can often come from an immature, unconscious place of pain or fear. That doesn't excuse the harm that is done. But it can help u…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:33 PM
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Well, first I'm not sure it is true to say that feminists in power are mostly men. I'm not sure what the split would be but it's not fair or true to just assume that mostly men are the problem here. And if they are, we should examine why that is before jumping to conclusions about how to fix it. It's difficult to answer the following questions about men hurting men cause I assume they stand on the premise that I believe that only men in power hurt men who are not in power. Which I don't. So I'll…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:25 PM
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Excellent quetions! What differentiates a feminist from a non-feminist? Okay, that's kind of difficult to answer because I want to be fair. I define a feminist as someone who believes in gender equality, and who is interested in gender politics and social issues, with a focus on the perspective of women and with a focus on woman's issues, with the goal of achieving gender equality through uplifting women. This is why I say I am a feminist and a mens rights advocate. I feel this definition suits …
/r/MensRights19/01/22 12:09 PM
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I think this comes from the fact that there are many social norms and governmental policy that directly harms men and boys that have feminist origins. Because of this, a lot of people state that in order to be pro-mens rights, you have to be, by definition, anti-feminist. I don't agree, but it's not invalid. I believe that you can be pro-something, and criticise it without being a hypocrit or contradictory. I can love Star Wars, and think that Jar Jar Binks is a terrible character for many reaso…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 11:09 AM
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I don't disagree with you. There are feminists who are in power, and they are responsible for promoting and establishing laws and legal precidents, as well as social standards, that hurt men and boys. I care about those things. I find them unjust. I have no interest in protecting their image. I don't think the feminists you are thinking of represent feminism. In fact, I think they do a lot to directly harm gender equality, which is what I believe feminism stands for. I am interested in challengi…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 11:03 AM
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Thank you for the positive comment. In truth, I understand it. Feminism isn't a monolith, and I know there have been things that feminists have done, said and achieved that make me uncomfortable or angry. I don't particularly blame people on this subreddit for being angry and making sweeping generalisations. I've done it. We've all done it. But we can be better than that, right? I want communities like this to be better, because I think the issues discussed here are important. I wouldn't tolerat…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 10:50 AM
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My goal was not to prove anything. I wasn't here to talk about facts, or to offer evidence towards those facts. My goal was to talk about emotions, and perhaps provoke thought about factionalism and false dichotomies. The original post that this is a response to seems to have come from a place of anger. It's not up to be to prove or disprove where that anger is coming from, because, frankly, it's valid and understandable. There's a lot of bitterness and resentment that is founded in real injusti…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 10:45 AM
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I... I don't feel like I deserve that. All I can do now is speak up on behalf of one man. Again, I'm new to all this. It's not as if I've been advocating for men's rights all my life. In fact, the truth is that before I met my partner, I was extremely wary of internet spaces like this. I still am, to a certain extent. I feel like if you knew where I have come from and my journey to get to here, you'd be more hesitant to offer me your appreciation. I'm working on re-enforcing other aspects of my …
/r/MensRights23/06/21 08:55 PM
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I don't want to go to therapy right now. I've just come out of therapy with a counsellor that was wrong for me and I feel burnt out and skeptical of the whole practise right now. However, I understand it's value (I've had good counsellors in the past) and when I'm ready to go back, I probably will. I do journal. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. I am focusing right now and finding a routine. Work, exercise, sleep, socialising, personal time etc. I think it's important to keep a sense of …
/r/MensRights23/06/21 09:37 AM
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Thank you. I've been doing everything I can to keep him motivated in investing in his future. The insinct is to shy away and be conservative ("What if I go to prison? I can't get a job or look for a new place to live."), but I told him that it would be better for him to come out of this with a nice home and a job than years of stress and anxiety with nothing to show for it. I encouraged him to apply for the job he now has, and I'm encouraging him to keep investing in his hobbies and his future. …
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:49 AM
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I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I don't support you recording your encounters without the other party's consent, but I understand why you do it. Especially if it has happened multiple times. You are doing the right thing in gathering evidence immediately. However, with all the compassion in the world, I strongly ask you to consider asking the consent of the people you are recording. As necessary as I'm sure you feel it is, it is a violation of their consent in it's own right. If you a…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:44 AM
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He has already done so much to me and been such a positive and healing influence in my life. I am not about to let that go! It is difficult, but he shows me how much it means to him every day. I just wish it wasn't all I could do.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:38 AM
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Thank you for sharing your story.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:37 AM
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Indeed, you are excellent at feelings! Yes, yes, and yes. I feel deeply disrespected by someone I don't know (the accusers). I feel invisible and silenced. I feel like my life has been callously invaded and they will never know how they hurt me because they will never know I even exist, or care. On top of that, my partner and soul mate might be taken away from me and I will lose some of the few spaces of safety and stability I've had in my life. So I am angry/insulted, and my happily-ever-after …
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:36 AM
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Thank you for asking. You've already offered some comfort and empathy (by telling me that what's happening to me is real and that I'm welcome here). Right now I think hearing about men who have been through this and survived is helping a lot. And just people responding positively to this post has been helping.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:31 AM
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Thank you for your insight. Obviously I don't exactly wish sunshine and roses for the accusers, but I'm not a revenge focused person. The only thing that I hope for is that they will, in time, come to realise the full extent and consequences of their actions. That's all. That's all I've ever wanted from the people in my life who have hurt me; for them to understand what they did and how much it hurt. It heartens me to think that there will be an "after" to all this. This has been years in the ma…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 02:04 PM
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Thank you. I appreciate that link
/r/MensRights22/06/21 09:32 AM
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We're not going down without a fight. The worst part right now is the anxiety and insult. I feel like complete strangers have come into my private life and taken a massive shit on the carpet, and he's being blamed for it. I flicker between rage and terror and dispair and hope daily. But a big part of how I'm fighting for him is making DAMN sure he knows he's not alone. He has friends and loved ones and a family behind him. A big part of that is radical honesty. He's been utterly transparent abou…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:59 AM
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I'm so sorry. That must have been horrible. I can't imagine what you must have gone through. However, hearing you talk about it in the past tense gives me hope that there is a life after this ordeal. Be gentle with yourself and take pride in your survival.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:46 AM
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