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thats different than lying about your intentions with a woman. lying about your intentions fucks with people's heads. but fuck it, as long as you get your dick wet who cares about ethics, right?
/r/seduction20/04/26 10:01 PM
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harmless???? you think tricking people into having sex with you is harmless? grow up. we can smell your desperation.
/r/seduction20/04/26 09:29 PM
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id let him walk away before I process whats happened
/r/seduction04/04/26 11:19 PM
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this is the advice OP. im a bisexual woman who occasionally has group sex. the good ones happen with established FWBs ive met over the years. ehh ones happen with established couples where im the "third". never once would I consider fucking two people for the first time in one night. too many variables.
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:59 PM
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"I'd like to get to know you better before we do anything sexual. I need to feel comfortable and safe to experience sexual pleasure." damn these whores for taking advantage of us wholesome men!!!
/r/seduction27/11/25 01:13 PM
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that all comes down to you. do you want to be the type of guy that tricks women into sex or do you want to be honest? deep down you know that the women who would reject you based on that, would never sleep with you in the first place. you're tricking them into thinking there might be potential.
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:38 PM
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take a trip to a nudist resort, especially if its swinger friendly. the open minded atmosphere and seeing other normal bodies will help. the friendly people are the cherry on top.
/r/seduction06/09/25 01:56 AM
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what a great idea! if you like to show off who arent and what youre not about..... have you tried posing with own hobbies and interests? do you have any....
/r/seduction21/07/25 04:44 PM
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its not an insult???? everyone is young and dumb at that age, myself included. I didn't say she was a victim. what a fucking stretch. I had plenty of similar experiences myself at her age, so im letting her know that he's most likely a loser. successful men dont have to date 20 year olds. that's it. that's all. dude most likely sucks. thats all im saying.
/r/seduction18/07/25 02:20 PM
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woman?? she's barely legal. and everyone is saying to go for it, so what's there to be accountable for? she has nothing to be accountable for except being young and dumb. thats why its okay to give her a warning that he's probably a loser.
/r/seduction18/07/25 12:48 PM
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you couldn't pay me to be 20 again. im happy to be dating my age range. you all said it yourself, men in their 30s can be great. it is very generalized as are all the comments here.
/r/seduction18/07/25 11:49 AM
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OP I hope these creepy ass comments helped you figure it out. 32 year old man desires youth above all else and is probably about your age in maturity which is why he has to date someone who can't even go to a bar with him.
/r/seduction18/07/25 11:11 AM
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you need to expand your definition of sex. you can satisfy a woman without your penis ever getting involved.
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:14 AM
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well, yes. you have to be good at conversating in order for people to enjoy it.however that's not rare, nor is it a trait. it's learned. you can improve on it. I read The Art of Conversation by Judy Apps and learned quite a bit even though I've never struggled in that department. I guess it depends where you're looking. women are more likely to be busy at the grocery store or gym. people at bars or niche stores are almost always down to chat to strangers. the people may be avoiding you bc you're…
/r/seduction15/09/22 10:05 PM
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everyone starts out a stranger. the key is to chat and just have fun with it. of course if you come across as needing to get laid or get a GF right then and there it comes off as needy. if you are there for polite conversation and getting to know someone, its a genuine experience. people are sociable creatures and conversations are fun. if you're good at them, women will want to have more of them with you. i'ts only needy when you NEED a certain outcome to come of it. if you are just there havin…
/r/seduction15/09/22 08:16 PM
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she's knows it's better for her mental health if she doesn't fuck you but is still tempted. so do whatever you think is best, but do understand she's in a fragile place. if things go awry that's why. it's not bc of games or any shit.
/r/seduction14/09/22 10:03 PM
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idk what you're on about. all I said was you can make women feel really good if you wanted to. if you don't want to, sure. visual stimulation exist, yes lmao. blood flow to the genitals is what heightens an experience and that takes time; that is my sole point. you can look up the science behind vulva massages and pussy pumps; what I'm saying is factually true whether you choose to do it or not. it ain't that deep. it's a simple biological fact. I'm not at all saying you cannot have great sex wi…
/r/seduction12/09/22 01:23 AM
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agreed, im giving advice on how to blow their minds and keep them around. obviously group sex and high chemistry creates a memorable experience. but congrats. I've made women cum easily too. orgasms dont mean mindblowing experience, it's the bare minimum. do whatever you want. I'm just saying women are capable of feeling an insane amount of pleasure. they can reach heights that they don't even know about if you care to take them there. but I feel you I don't take the time to do those things in g…
/r/seduction12/09/22 12:03 AM
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stimulation leads to more blood flow in the area. it's more pleasurable period. it's biology. sure you can still have "good sex" but women can feel soooooo much better than good. show them the heights of pleasure and they'll keep you around.
/r/seduction11/09/22 11:01 PM
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sex should be a crime. got it. weirdo.
/r/seduction11/09/22 01:41 AM
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depression makes you mourn the past. perhaps try living in the moment and some mindfulness techniques. there's really nothing you can do but just get over it. life is full of disappointments, but that takes away nothing from the possibilities of the future. gotta stop mourning the past and start living the life you wanna have while you can.
/r/seduction10/09/22 12:34 PM
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why are you telling me things I already know? not all of them, but some yes. others are antiporn virgins who seem like religious fundamentalists. they all speak the same disparaging way about women, but their ideas are often pretty different. its interesting. I'm here to offer my input when things get too incelish. it's helped a few people. if you read about the tactics without judgement and remember that most of these men are neurodivergent with very little social experience, you start to see h…
/r/seduction10/09/22 12:14 PM
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sorry i got extremely confused on what you were on about. usually when someone insults me for being a woman, its not another woman. I don't do ONS or casual hookups. I'm also bisexual. so, no, that's not all I want. I thought we were discussing the concept of shit tests, but you're on about women's promiscuity for some reason. this sub is for people who approach women in public settings, whether that be for sex or relationships. it isn't geared toward tinder or first date impressions.
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:26 PM
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did you just reply with the wrong account LOL
/r/seduction09/09/22 08:19 PM
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so as a woman ive talked in depth about this bc i feel the same way you do. however, i can see their point. if you ask what they do for a living and they reply that they work for a cartel, you may want to end things. if you tease someone and they get sad/distant or angry/defensive, you will be less inclined to go out with them again. I hate the term shit tests bc of the negative connotation, but i see the point of it. the reason they say women do this and not men is because men will more often t…
/r/seduction09/09/22 02:24 PM
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"shit tests" are just the process of getting to know one another. i can see how in the pick up game, they give it a name bc the whole point is to hide your personality and get laid; hence the joke advice from OP. some people on this sub understand that shit tests aren't inherently negative. people who think shit tests are women playing games probably prefer women who have no personality whatsoever.
/r/seduction09/09/22 02:13 PM
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sex is not the same as intimacy. while that's true, its really just a personal judgement. if you want to avoid STDs, both people have to get tested. i shouldn't have to explain how people can get STD from being with one person. also note that you assumed i got mine from casual sex; i did not. i dont know what youre doing on this subreddit if its not to pick up women. seems like youre just here to spread archiac ideas. pick up game doesnt seem like a good method for two virgins to find eachother …
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:32 PM
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damn. you seem to hold a high animosity toward people with STDs. mine doesn't affect you at all. get over it. you cant make me feel bad for repeating information i already gave you. 80% of the world has some form of herpes. you can present facts without getting so emotional about it. I said body count has nothing to do with STD status. the only way to know someone's status is to get tested. if you rely on body count alone, you're gonna end up with something. it sounds like you don't get laid any…
/r/seduction08/09/22 10:33 PM
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human beings are human beings and our pasts dont magically taint our futures. "sanctity" sounds religious. im not that. there is nothing sacred about physical bodies or sex. intimacy is a beautiful thing that is not weakened by other intimate encounters. STI risk is real, but most arent life threatening. half the people here fuck whatever without even asking about STD so its likely yall are passing them around. I have herpes and have no problems getting laid (obviously i tell the people im sleep…
/r/seduction08/09/22 09:23 PM
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you think people are objects that lose value? no wonder you need this place.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:48 PM
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may i ask your reasoning? if you have to compare women to an object, you already lost. i would love to hear someone's actual reasoning.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:47 PM
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weird. everyone I chill with is an exception. who made this rule you speak of? do you know how accurate it is? sounds like pseudoscience to me. any studies you can link me? believe it or not, most people understand there is value outside of outer appearance. not everyone lives their lives following their boners. many people find young women insufferable.
/r/seduction08/09/22 11:07 AM
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oh I'll shout it from the rooftops; who cares. but no one has asked since i was like 20. in fact I brought it up for a few years after that, but it came off as childish.
/r/seduction08/09/22 02:40 AM
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I'm more attracted to women above 25. attraction isnt as simple as reproduction capabilities---gay peoples' existence negates that theory. older women generally have stronger personalities, which is a plus. you like younger women. okay good for you. that's not everyone.
/r/seduction08/09/22 02:34 AM
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nah, adults dont actually talk about body counts. you have nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:25 PM
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that's how i view it as well. i guess it works a little differently across the pond.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:25 PM
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you think women actually become lesser humans for having sex? how could you possibly judge someone for age gap sex if that were the case. you aint making sense.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:22 PM
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your analogy implied that women get worse when they get older and/or have sex. thats absurd. people aren't objects that lose value. try again.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:17 PM
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i dont care because its not my business and happens all the time. im just saying its going to be far from an equal partnership. for that reason, it gives a lot of people creep vibes. do whatever you want though.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:11 PM
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hookups are a-ok, but a relationship could be dicey. their brains arent developed and they have no life experience. therefore you could take the lead and have some submissive, timid girl to date--seems like a lot of guys here are cool with that. i prefer women with life experience who arent afraid to stand up for themselves. age gap FWBs are awesome though. can be a pretty fun kink. i wouldnt take the advice of anyone who refers to women as used cars. holy shit this sub is going downhill.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:01 PM
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it's much less risky and more enjoyable to do it with friends. sex gets better the more two people do it.
/r/seduction07/09/22 01:31 PM
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OP thinks all of them are too nervous/timid to conversate. they're not. they're nervous to talk to him specifically. they have decided he's too old; OP just hasn't noticed.
/r/seduction07/09/22 12:22 PM
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people aren't math equations for starters. you may have more luck if you start respecting humans for who they are rather than their "status".
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:29 PM
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that's paranoia. no one gives a shit what you do in your free time.
/r/seduction04/09/22 11:28 PM
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that's the best attitude to have. you never know when someone is gonna come into your life. be prepared! i feel like thats why dating apps are such a crapshoot. people can just flip through potential matches on their phone, meanwhile their house is a disaster and they havent showered in 3 days--they arent ready to meet anyone they just like to scroll and chat.
/r/seduction02/09/22 08:34 PM
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she'll only do that if she's feeling hypersexual. thing is, that feeling is very fleeting. hence why it goes nowhere. you gotta establish yourself first.
/r/seduction01/09/22 08:45 PM
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you're on to something here, but instead of some vague notion of "those in power" its a natural progression of capitalism. it steals things from us (the time and right to approach women. ei: theyre busy dont bother them or i wont approach im too busy to work out/improve my game) and sell them right back to us (dating apps). its also never fails to alienate which is what you are describing. based on what you wrote here, you might find yourself agreeing with anti-capitalist literature if you decid…
/r/seduction01/09/22 08:23 PM
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how people treat you has no affect on your value as a human being. sure, it FEELS bad, but that does not mean you ARE bad. plus, where did you get these ideas about women? they aren't a monolith of misanthropists. explain how your appearance makes you a worse person, please. my self worth has nothing to do with other people or how they view me. you're setting yourself up to fail when you depend on other's approval. George Orwell's character said that. it was a a critique on people who think like…
/r/seduction30/08/22 12:12 PM
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you've internalized some incel shit. women don't see you as a lesser human just because they aren't attracted to you. assholes do that, but fuck assholes and most people aren't like that anyway. perhaps you do that and people don't appreciate it. attractiveness /=/ worth. I'm sorry you think your appearance makes you a lesser human. everyone has inherent value. the fact you think you have nothing to give the world bc you're short is exactly why you're having problems. how you act doesn't matter?…
/r/seduction27/08/22 06:09 PM
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it makes sense, but its not a healthy or productive mindset to have. you are not a lesser person because of your height. when you act like you are, women notice. everyone has different preferences; you acting dead on arrival kills it. maybe go for taller chicks. they dont seem to care as much in my experience bc they tower over everyone anyway.
/r/seduction26/08/22 08:52 PM
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perhaps women are picking up on the fact you think of yourself as a "manlet" rather than a man.
/r/seduction26/08/22 08:03 PM
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i would find it very difficult to live a happy life if i excluded 50% of the population from it. your low self esteem is scaring women away. all you gotta do is be fun to be around and strangers will want to be around you--this includes women. i would push those thoughts of desire far out of my mind and get good at talking and relating to strangers. that helps you realize there is nothing to put on a pedestal; people are just people. perhaps try to talk to women you arent attracted to until you …
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:14 PM
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bc women can choose from anyone in a room at any given time. many have been with enough dudes to know that over half of them will be disappointing in bed at best or dangerous at worst. sex is a risky act. especially with a new person. you gotta prove you're worth it.
/r/seduction20/08/22 03:17 AM
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yep. it goes both ways. nothing wrong with being slutty.
/r/seduction17/08/22 11:53 PM
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i usually follow that up with "or what" or "make me" or something. if its in person, it's a great way to escalate physically.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:21 PM
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i was gonna suggest this. show her you are emotionally open, just a bit. then back off. rinse and repeat. she'll want more and more. then you both get to connect more.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:16 PM
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if you are warm, comfortable, and fun a woman will want to be around you just like anyone else. if only pretty women make you nervous, talk to people you find ugly until you get the hang of social situations. i found the book The Art of Conversation by Judy Apps very helpful in helping me open myself up to others and having them do the same to me.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:22 PM
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all kinds of people do this. i fall for emotionally unavailable people all the time. it fuckin' sucks. i'm wanna try to stick to emotionally mature people who can communicate their feelings, but that sounds pretty difficult to find so who knows.
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:17 PM
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it's totally acceptable to tell someone to stop doing something if it makes you uncomfortable. not sure why you need to know whether you got your ass ate or not; by definition it did not happen, but why are you so pressed? engaging in a sex act doesnt change who you are. it's considered "fooling around" and its no one else's business.
/r/seduction11/08/22 01:50 PM
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I find myself making an hour drive pretty regularly to attend events. if that's not doable, i've had success with using OLD to meet new friends. the trick is to meet the friends of the people you meet. so you keep meeting more and more people until you find the ones you really vibe with.
/r/seduction08/08/22 08:16 PM
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do the games usually end at the same time? if so, i would try to be sociable afterwards (or beforehand if you can postpone your game) and get a group conversation going right before everyone leaves. if you can get that to become a thing, you could initiate one on one convos after a couple weeks.
/r/seduction08/08/22 07:29 PM
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i wasnt gonna throw out any diagnosis, but i came here to say something similar. this sounds like a set up for some serious drama. I've been in that scenario, caused a riff between the two, and the ex almost showed up to fight me one day. stay away from crazy people.
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:45 PM
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clubs and group events exist outside of college. look online; some of them might seem lame but the opportunity to meet people is worth it. after you make a few acquaintances, it gets easier to find stuff and meet even more people. start by chatting people up with no intentions or ulterior motives. focus on becoming a good conversationalist before anything else.
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:14 PM
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i have never encountered this problem and don't know anyone who has. lay off the teen porn and you may find yourself being attracted to actual women.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:57 PM
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if single means "not entertaining any dude" then no. it's 2022 different genders can be friends, in case you missed the memo.
/r/seduction04/08/22 12:57 PM
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so im in the same boat as the commenter you're responding to, but i've juggled various flings and FWBs simultaneously. If im close enough to a FWB to post them publicly, it's a step that shows we're real friends outside of sex; it seconds as a shit test for the new people im talking to. In other words, I'm setting the expectation (that i go out with others) and wanting to know if the new people in my life can handle it. i think its possible that by keeping it under wraps, they're trying not to s…
/r/seduction04/08/22 12:24 PM
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I'm not sure there is a straightforward answer. I think it varies widely depending on if you're looking for a relationship, FWB, or ONS. I'd lie and oversell for a ONS; why not!? if they're doing ONS, they've certainly had bad lays before. if looking for a FWB or relationship, honesty is key but you HAVE to develop an emotional component before sexual. if you're sexually inexperienced, she has to have other good reasons for having you in her life.
/r/seduction03/08/22 04:44 PM
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I wouldnt worry about that. i highly doubt she cared enough to have the pressure of being special. people find hot women special all the time; they're used to the imbalance. i think its far more likely she wanted a good experience and with you being a virgin, that likelihood was very low. either fake it until you make it, or develop a relationship with someone kind and patient enough to show you the ropes.
/r/seduction03/08/22 12:15 PM
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you stop trying to pick up women and start dating. get to know their values, desires, and hobbies. you'll start to notice the things you like and dislike after getting to know several women.
/r/seduction02/08/22 07:37 PM
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just cause she's being a whore with you, doesn't mean she's nothing but a whore. you can rack up a high body count and still find love. youre suffering from the madonna-whore complex. have you ever thought those women are just as unsatisfied as you? that they also crave more, but not from you bc you yourself are a player? it ain't that deep dude. yall had a time and then it ended. making judgments on who that person is or what life is all about based on a few hours of interaction is naive.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:58 PM
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nah, i do that occasionally and usually end up talking to people. bar people are a lot of fun.
/r/seduction28/07/22 06:44 PM
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in what reality would stealing someone's drink, probably exposing them/yourself to HSV without consent, and ruining their outfit work? can i have whatever it is you're smoking?
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:05 PM
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what the fuck
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:58 PM
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i would initiate contact about a week before she's in town again and build up from there.
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:32 PM
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this is the way. i've meet so many people through the people i've met online dating. its changed my life. if you get a match, you're likely that person's type. so go meet their friends who you may have even more in common with than your match. then you get to meeting the friends of those friends and pretty soon you dont need OLD, but it is good to have as you said.
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:26 PM
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people can tell if someone is naturally quiet or only quiet bc of low confidence. are you taking steps to build your confidence?
/r/seduction22/07/22 01:52 PM
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no emotional regulation, immaturity, lack of experience in human connection. basically they're a toddler throwing a tantrum.
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:19 PM
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this!! with work relationships, you want to develop a strong rapport, maybe even baseline friendship bc she'd be taking a big risk going out with a coworker. OPs gotta show her that building their connection is worth the risk.
/r/seduction19/07/22 07:48 PM
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if you can keep up with her mentally and physically, age does nothing but up your game generally speaking. you'll find that some women are turned off by older men, some dont care, and some are super into it. there's not much you can do to change that. just put yourself out there and see what gets good results.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:46 PM
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post says mid 20s. by then, its much more acceptable. plus, the post doesn't say its for dating.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:44 PM
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she's passing you the ball to see if you even care to initiate. the damage may already have been done, but you could salvage it if you put in effort. sounds like she's been putting in a lot. it works best if its 50/50 from the get go, not 100% from her for two weeks and 100% from you the next week. sounds exhausting.
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:56 PM
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i found The Art of Conversation by Judy Apps incredibly helpful with this. there is always common ground to be found.
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:42 PM
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i agree that women can get validation from just about any public space, but strangers telling you you're pretty and smart only get you so far. real validation comes from accomplishments regardless of gender.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:26 PM
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25 is nothing. follow advice on this sub and start trying to pick up women. that's how. gotta get out of your own head, man.
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:36 PM
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guess you'll have to leave your house to find out. pretty much all the women i know are in relationships like that. im an awkward extrovert though so i attract those types. i swear the more people you talk to, the sooner you'll realize you're not alone and that everyone has their quirks and social shortcomings.
/r/seduction29/06/22 07:45 PM
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yep. i struggle with this with men and women. the other day someone described their taco bell burrito to me for ten minutes. that same person wonders why im so mysterious. they dont let me talk about anything but the random shit in their heads!! there's no thoughtfulness or pointed discussions. i do find this is way less common with people who are a couple decades older.
/r/seduction29/06/22 06:38 PM
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scientifically, you are incorrect. your brain is not locked in. you are more than capable of creating new neural pathways, especially at such a young age. hell, your brain is just now near done developing. start by being kind to yourself and correcting the lies your brain tells you. it may feel like you are lying to yourself at first, but one day you'll wake up, say "I can do this" and actually believe it. just go through the positive bullshit or "cope" as you call it and eventually it'll become…
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:55 PM
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no one was born knowing how to pursue a relationship. we all stumble through and figure it out. i think the most important thing for you to do is realize that your "I feel" statements are not based in reality. your brain is saying, "you may as well never try because you'd fail anyway." if you cant shut those thoughts off, you're not gonna accomplish much of anything in life. sorry for repeatedly commenting on your stuff. i just really feel for your situation bc i deal with a similar thing. its h…
/r/seduction29/06/22 01:18 PM
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women are not a monolith. some of the baddest bitches only date socially awkward weirdos. you are making so many excuses for yourself. you act as if being weird is a drawback, when for most its a plus. the more people you talk to, the sooner you will figure this out.
/r/seduction29/06/22 01:11 PM
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god you sound like me when im depressed. you're talking yourself out of trying something before you even look at the options or logistics of doing the thing. you say "online dating is all played out" therefore you cant use it anymore. what does this even mean? its valid to not want to use it, but to act like its no longer an option is just an excuse to put yourself down. Cold approach seems against my nature as well, but im not taking it off the table for all future endeavors. start with randoml…
/r/seduction29/06/22 01:04 PM
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I'm here trying to fight those sentiments and help those folks, but it's getting worse. guess that's just what happens in forums like these. it's a shame. this could be a helpful place.
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:14 PM
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we call that a learning moment. depending on what you said, it could have been rude or maybe that person in particular just didnt vibe with what you had to say. regardless, awkward moments happen. it sounds like it didnt ruin your chances. dont over think it!!
/r/seduction22/06/22 12:52 PM
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hell yeah!!!
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:22 PM
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if you dislike 50% of the population so much, why are you trying to date them? you can simply date men, you know.
/r/seduction20/06/22 06:18 PM
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i tried to tell people this and got downvoted. thats just how it is. attractiveness doesnt factor into it as much as you think. chicks just get more matches. you can score there, but you have to stand out of 100 other guys. messages are the real thing you need to pay attention to bc any red/yellow flags, or even a vibe mismatch on any particular day can cause you to be put back at the bottom of their pile. that's why cold approach is preferred.
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:55 PM
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i can feel equally sexy in cargo shorts and sock & sandals as I do in a mini skirt and fishnets. it depends on my mood that day. its about self expression, not attracting attention. feeling yourself is the sexiest thing you can do. if that happens to bring attention, thats just a side effect--some people dont mind the attention, some hate it, some love it. almost like every person is unique.
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:07 PM
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new clothes cost money. maybe they hate shopping. maybe they need to do laundry. maybe they love the look of the garment, but it's flawed. have you never owned a piece of clothing that doesnt fit perfectly? some people are lazy or broke or simply dont care. some like the garment enough to put up with its flaws. its literally not that deep. if men's clothes were made as skimpy and cheaply as some of women's clothes, more men would have similar mishaps.
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:00 PM
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goddamn. your dating troubles have nothing to do with how much dirty laundry i have. LOL the only thing women are signalling when they wear stuff like that is "I don't care what society says about how i dress" I can appreciate you want to work on yourself, but to do this you really need to try to decenter yourself in scenarios that have literally nothing to do with you. a woman running errands in skimpy clothes is simply a person going out and running errands. In order to get laid and/or have a …
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:54 PM
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elon musk couldn't figure out how to tie his shoes without the help of multiple engineers. but i agree with your premise to an extent. there is a small amount of game that's helpful. however, if you follow this sub's advice to a T, you're gonna come across as fake--at least by intelligent women. it cant be too obvious that you are playing a game. just be natural and make suggestions. dont remove all personality and push push push.
/r/seduction16/06/22 03:24 PM
1

camel toe is generally seen as disgusting and women are taught to hide them. definitely wasnt intending to flirt by showing you.
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:34 PM
0

yes its like that for all guys. you get 3 matches a month and women get 3 matches a day, or hour if they're really trying. a typical bi woman's inbox is flooded with "hey" or "what's up?" from 50 dudes and "i like your aesthetic" from 10 women. you're going to have to stand out and make minimal mistakes. that's just the way it is. that's why i like to establish a couple common interests then set a date right away--less time for ghosting or for someone else to swoop in.
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:26 PM
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that's an understandable fear and a good way to go about it. verbal permission isn't the only way. it's not a boogeyman either. I agree. that's actually a good way to look at it.
/r/seduction07/06/22 03:00 AM
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this sub hates asking for consent, but it always works with me and people seem appreciative--guys and girls. I dont want to misread anything or make someone uncomfortable. many many men have kissed me when i didnt want to be kissed and it was easier to just go along with it than stop them. its sexy when someone cares about your comfort level.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:14 PM
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our food culture has everyone addicted so they think its too difficult. constantly craving food is such a vicious cycle to be trapped in.
/r/seduction06/06/22 05:55 PM
2

sometimes it takes me all day to respond to a text. get a grip. not everyone likes to stare at a phone all day.
/r/seduction01/06/22 11:58 PM
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i think you're spending too much time on said media. the women i know arent picky at all lmao. how do you approach them? are you hygienic and relatively fit? do you have a stable job? do you resent them before even speaking? my bet is you've never actually gotten that far.
/r/seduction01/06/22 04:58 PM
1

i would take the straight forward approach and ask them not to do that again.
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:15 PM
2

agreed.
/r/seduction20/05/22 01:57 AM
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she certainly may see him as a challenge, but i wouldnt be so sure its conscious. maybe she does think she can change him. IDK i dont read minds. neither do you. she sounds like fucking trash and he does too if he's willing to put up with it. its not like im sticking up for her lmao. im just talking about "shit tests"
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:29 PM
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that makes sense and i've done similar, but through conversation or observing their behavior. i guess i dont get the negativity around the word. what wrong with wanting to have similar values to someone you're sleeping with? do men not concern themselves with matching values?
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:28 PM
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people with your mindset are deluded. its like you didnt even read the post. she's actively chasing him now that's she's been denied. that's not how "stringing along" works. it's more likely she wants him bc he's not catering to her every whim. it seems being told no makes the heart grow fonder.
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:40 PM
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thats not a shit test. thats an indication of her expectations and entitlement. this whole shit test thing is so weird to me. its always just a mismatch of personalities and yall think its some complicated equation. nah, she just has a personality and isnt following your script. it's called getting to know someone through conversation.
/r/seduction19/05/22 04:14 PM
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go look at people in their 90s to see if i still think men in their 30s and 40s are hot? uhhh, ok. I agree, but a lot of men on this sub would say thats horseshit and that everyone would prefer a younger woman over an older one.
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:21 PM
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maybe she thought you were a bad kisser. maybe it was a mind game. you'll never know. move on and be cordial if you see her.
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:25 PM
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my dude...men's value increases over time. yall only get hotter and more experienced. they dont even peak until late 30s or early 40s.
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:18 PM
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i would leave out the "no hard feelings" bit. it makes you sound a little inexperienced, bc its something that should go without saying.
/r/seduction12/05/22 08:02 PM
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you two are looking for completely different things yet you decide that she must be acting on perceived attractiveness. thats so shallow of you. you cant come up with any other possible reasons she may not be interested? ya know, like the fact she wants to get married and you dont? LMAO what a joke. who even cares if she finds you attractive? even if she did, there's no guarantee she'd fuck you. because chicks (like most other human beings) have a lot going on and its not always "omg how many pe…
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:54 PM
1

ahh, yes. acting slutty by picking up weights. what you're saying might make sense if dudes didn't think women going about their routines are making sexual displays.
/r/seduction07/05/22 03:31 PM
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clubs arent great places for talking. seriously nothing worse than wanting to release sexual energy (through dancing) but instead being cornered into a convo where each person just repeats, "HUH?" also: whats your end goal? to go home with someone? to make out there? the dude that came up and started grinding on her was able to do that bc he gave her something she liked--dancing....at a dance club. if you wanna chat, try a bar.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:52 PM
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low self esteem? you want to tuck your personality away, so if you get rejected it wasnt your fault; its on the chick for not being interested in a nice guy. even though you probably came off as extremely boring. best thing to do is be yourself. they can take it or leave it and it makes no difference to your value as a person.
/r/seduction04/05/22 05:06 PM
1

damn. its like all yall men forget gay women exist.
/r/seduction27/04/22 09:28 PM
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have you ever had an STD panel done? curious bc i NEVER see safe sex mentioned in this sub. condoms dont protect from everything.
/r/seduction19/04/22 09:25 PM
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you dress like a hip bisexual or lesbian. while it can be considered cute, it doesnt scream "approach me!" try some pants with a tighter fit. if you do go loose jeans, make up for it with a crop top or something revealing up top. frumpy is a popular style right now, but something intended for the male gaze will get you, well, the male gaze.
/r/seduction13/04/22 01:21 PM
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its not really a harsh truth that most people arent most peoples types. if you cast a net so wide that everyone wants to be with you, you're the boring one. personalities come at the price of not everyone liking them. you sound like you're trying to be edgy and frame it as "guys tell the truth and this chick cant handle it LOL" OP seems pretty unbothered that she doesnt attract men who behave in such a way. if you want to up your game, i'd recommend trying not to be so condescending to women you…
/r/seduction13/04/22 01:16 PM
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this is called sex tourism and its gross as fuck my dude. if you cant get laid here, going elsewhere isnt the solution.
/r/seduction12/04/22 08:34 PM
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scenario one: "hey, hi, wyd, whats up" I respond kindly add some fact about myself and ask a question about them. "thats cool. *ignores everything i said* wyd?" scenario two/three: makes a lot of money but works 90 hours a week. I live 2 minuets from him but would need to wait weeks for a date, which is actually better than the methhead option before that who worked as much and did find time to date. scenario four: dont get me started on the women. in addition to everything yall go through with …
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:08 PM
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ask her about herself. absolutely do not say: whats up, hows it going, hey how are you, youre pretty, i like your _____. they get 10 of these a day and its quite literally not a way to start a conversation. once she knows youre interested and can hold a convo without being a perv or weirdo, she'll agree to a date or at least coffee.
/r/seduction11/04/22 01:49 PM
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first step in seduction is to leave your fucking basement. you live in a fantasy world.
/r/seduction11/04/22 01:43 PM
1

you are focusing on the wrong things. you got the farthest you've ever gotten!!! you're here to keep upping your game and improving your self worth, so it only gets better from here. soon you'll make it a little further and then even further than that. keep learning from your mistakes and growing. seeing how its so detrimental to you right now, definitely take a break and try to find self worth from within. work on a hobby or creative outlet. find joy in yourself--the chicks will come much easie…
/r/seduction08/04/22 08:53 PM
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get creative. give commands. pleasure her, then fuck her. it's called being dominant.
/r/seduction03/04/22 04:36 PM
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i think its important to note the top comment was talking about establishing a rapport before asking her out/hitting on her. the more you both say hi, maybe make some small talk, the better your chances are. so, its not exactly a cold approach method. gyms are unique in that people really dont want to be bothered, BUT its a routine, so you get the opportunity to build a small connection over time (and with minimum effort). eventually you'll be a friendly face, not a bother.
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:49 PM
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i think its easier to form a connection with the person when i dont wank it for a few days beforehand. it makes the sex more about feeling good mentally and physically than just busting a nut. leads to way steamier sex when you're both dying for the release.
/r/seduction01/04/22 03:30 PM
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I agree. I guess I generally don't see younger women as attractive, other than physically. women 30+ seem to be both more interesting and sexual. I guess it depends how broke. retail and food service is a turnoff. only because it's hardly survivable; get your life sorted before entangling another person in it. other than that it just comes down to lifestyles. but idk the women I know don't expect me to pay for everything. maybe that's a younger chick thing.
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:04 AM
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lots of divorcees and women just out of long term relationships. they'll find another man to settle with soon, so go help them get that physical release in the meantime!
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:31 PM
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no self respecting woman would be with someone who values them for their attractiveness over all else, but hey, there are a lot of women out there that fit that description so good for you.
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:58 PM
2

i agree. cheating is wrong. the post doesnt say cheating is a red flag though. it says openly sleeping with other men is a red flag. i really dont know or care about the cheating/open relationship timeline of random people ill never meet so ill just take your word for it. yeah its messed up.
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:52 PM
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in an open relationship both people are allowed to have sex with others. as far as simp behavior, if i care about someone and find out that they are hurting, it can can cause me to reinterpret a situation. this is an incredibly normal human behavior. what's not so normal is being totally unbothered by your partner's turmoil. Im not saying it was a great reaction, but if the other suggestion is to keep laughing at the joke while your wife is clearly in pain, that aint it.
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:53 PM
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if two people agree to something, its not being unfaithful or cheating. my apologies for interpreting your words at face value.the only issue i see here is different standards for different levels of income. it doesnt matter who makes more. if both people are happy in their relationship, they should be able to fuck people outside of that relationship. to let it depend on finances/gender is basically saying you'd pick any broad that wants your money and provides nothing in return. in relationship…
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:17 PM
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i mean you can reason any absurd idea out but that doesnt mean its good reasoning. why not just talk to her about it and do it ethically? oh wait, women couldnt possibly comprehend that...as evidenced by the rising popularity of nonmonogamous relationships lol. a "high value woman" is someone you can share your thoughts and ideas with without fear. honestly anyone who would rather cheat or delude themselves is a coward. its literally just a conversation. "high value men" shouldnt be so terrified…
/r/seduction30/03/22 12:19 PM
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i have this problem with girls and guys. some people dont know how to conversate.
/r/seduction29/03/22 09:30 PM
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maybe she got an oral/genital STD. apparently that shit is super common.
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:51 PM
5

I wish I could show yall all the ugly dudes I've fucked lol. not-so-hot chicks too and I'm an above average looking woman. IDK if yall are super shallow or fucking with shallow girls, but not everyone is looking for physical perfection. I'm actually less attracted to model types and washboard abs.
/r/seduction22/03/22 10:00 PM
0

straight women probably dont. lesbian & experienced bisexual women might be more likely.
/r/seduction15/03/22 08:28 PM
1

I get the confidence thing and taking charge, but I think you should have asked what time/date worked for her after she couldn't oblige your first command. no one like to be commanded 24/7. alternate with suggestions and questions.
/r/seduction07/03/22 11:49 PM
1

you're not attracted to women who poop? you know that women are people, right? just like you or me. sex is fun, but you are still having it with a human being.
/r/seduction07/03/22 09:33 PM
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i'll never understand looking for well-rounded people on instagram. those are people who need outside validation from total strangers and post boring-ass selfies or the same old thirst traps to get it. not to mention, they're gonna be on their phones all the time.
/r/seduction23/02/22 06:59 PM
1

really depends. if you are sending women funny pick up lines on an app, that's no good. women are bombarded with those and it says nothing about you as a person. if you attempted in public, then maybe she just doesnt have your sense of humor, on to the next!
/r/seduction21/02/22 04:05 PM
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if you get off on manipulating people, this is a great route. if you want a relationship, lying isnt a good look.
/r/seduction11/02/22 06:41 PM
5

yep. kiss on first date, sex by second or third. if someone is moving too fast for me, I'll tell them. if they are going too slow, I assume they aren't interested. not having sex is like hiding part of the relationship until its further established; why would you hide something that's enjoyable?
/r/seduction07/02/22 07:25 PM
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I would think that could mean many different things and you shouldn't ditch your friends by assuming they meant the worst. you can reflect on what you've told them; do you come across as a player? or ask them, but don't come across as defensive/offended/emotional bc it'll be harder to get the blunt truth. just ask what's up. remember it's possible to be respected and have flaws, perceived or real.
/r/seduction06/02/22 11:47 PM
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i like starting a first date with a hug. it breaks the tension of like "oops sorry i didnt mean to touch you" and makes accidental touch more comfortable, if that makes sense. i try to end my first dates with a kiss, nothing to sexy unless it goes there naturally. sometimes i take a cue, and do a hug instead. if we kiss, we get that other big step out of the way. it helps ease nervousness. anxiety around physical tough and kissing only grows the longer you wait imo.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:30 PM
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escalating intimacy would be going from strangers who dont touch to casual shoulder/hand brushing to kissing to sex. or something like that. there is an initial nervousness in the air until each "level" is broken in my experience.
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:25 PM
1

age gap is one thing. you couple that with the fact that he's your boss...i dont know. plus, that pope comment sounds very callous. he sounds like a douche, but you do you. if you value your job, dont do it because dynamics will change. that said, i fucked my boss who was older and it was exhilarating. blew up in my face but we live and learn haha. if you still wanna go for it, invite him for drinks. its easy. he can say no and theres no foul. he'd probably be happy you made the first move since…
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:12 PM
1

I wonder if this has anything to do with self sabotage? i do something similar when it comes to potential romantic leads. maybe do some soul searching on why you wouldnt approach someone who specifically seems interested, but are willing to potentially bother someone else (your odds are low if they have headphones in; generally its a sign to not be bothered).
/r/seduction31/01/22 08:35 PM
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it means she's unimaginative in bed and will probably just lay there. dont waste your time.
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:29 PM
1

you believe women are lesser and don't think you need to work on your personality lmao. what a joke.
/r/seduction15/01/22 07:49 PM
1

maybe women are picking up on your misanthropy. if you dont like people, well, women are people too. a woman isn't going to want to prove to you how she's different and worthy of your time. you could find yourself a "im not like other girls" gal or else gotta find someone who hates everyone else as much as you do. I would mention that mental illness in your profile if you find it that relevant. i wouldnt put it in a message though. check out their profiles for ice breakers. usually there are t-s…
/r/seduction14/01/22 08:20 PM
2

if im hooking up with someone I want them to be super excited about it. I've hooked up with men who were too depressed or anxious to really enjoy themselves--that's no fun for anyone. it may seem harsh, but if i pick up on someone's anhedonia, I don't go for it. I'm here for a good time; if you cant have a good time by yourself, how are we supposed to have a good time together? someone who is more depression inclined probably wont feel the same way I do. i agree with other comments that say find…
/r/seduction11/01/22 02:15 PM
2

FWBs do have a right to ask each other if they are sleeping with others, if those people have std test results, and if they use protection. I hope you realize this!! doesn't have to be guessing games unless you want that. ehh, slut doesn't have to be a bad thing. your comment sounded kinda negative though. hey, I like this sub. as a bisexual woman, i can provide insight and score tips. I'd hate to see it turn into a den of misogynists.
/r/seduction04/01/22 01:39 AM
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they said some women dont like sleeping with men the first time meeting them. they didnt say those women aren't having sex. having multiple well known sex partners is safer than sleeping with multiple new people every week. it means they are less likely to have STDs and in my experience they are way more fun. "women have a roster of guys or a FWB at the same time they're talking to you" you're coming off a little incel-ish buddy. you're on a subreddit that encourages talking to multiple women (t…
/r/seduction03/01/22 07:17 PM
1

I don't really either. I guess I don't mean pop culture, I just mean some sort of passion, and media consumption is a popular one. like, I know so many useless facts about 80s horror movies and punk music. so people who like those things are drawn to me. the more normie shit you like, the wider net you cast. it really depends what you are looking for.
/r/seduction14/12/21 11:02 PM
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sometimes "I'm boring" means they really are boring though. some people don't do anything for themselves, so they have no experiences or even pop culture to talk about. develop a rich inner life if you feel boring. this sub harps on that a lot, but i'll add to the noise.
/r/seduction14/12/21 08:26 PM
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the desperation is palpable.
/r/seduction10/12/21 03:04 PM
2

do you have friends? what about women friends? hook ups and girlfriends are like level 10 in the social sphere. If you cant get past levels 1-9, going for 10 is pointless. sounds like you could use some tips from conversationalists if those are your only hobbies.
/r/seduction30/11/21 05:33 PM
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whats the last movie or concert you went to? what subject do you have the most useless knowledge from? whats the last thing you created/wrote/crafted? what are your friends or parents like? whens the last time you felt pure joy?
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:28 PM
5

tying is actually really dangerous if you dont use the proper technique. i was seriously injured and am now disabled. its really easy to learn though!
/r/seduction11/11/21 01:03 PM
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middle ground i think. be yourself, but dont get so excited about your passions that you'll speak over someone else or go over about 50 seconds of speaking without a break. be yourself, but dont overshare. some people's humor can be jarring. tone it down to make it more palatable for more people--at least until you get to know a person. be yourself, but dont forget to get to know the other person either--show interest. I like to think of it as being myself, but also striving to be a good convers…
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:39 PM
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