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| 0 | I think there's a simple way to get people to understand why men shouldn't risk their lives for strangers.I learnt my lesson lol.... Now I always think about the potential batshit crazy outcomes I could be getting myself into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 08:58 AM |
| 1 | I think there's a simple way to get people to understand why men shouldn't risk their lives for strangers.History is cyclical and every great empire falls when it places demands on but offers nothing to those most capable of building or destroying it. The decline can't be stopped, all you can do is secure yourself and your loved ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 08:28 AM |
| 4 | I think there's a simple way to get people to understand why men shouldn't risk their lives for strangers.You've never called the cops on a domestic violence situation and had both parties turn on you for interfering and possibly doing it because you want the woman have you? Never help people out of situations they got themselves into willingly, they'll turn on you and bring you more chaos than you can imagine especially if it's helping a woman and you're a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 07:11 AM |
| 1 | I think there's a simple way to get people to understand why men shouldn't risk their lives for strangers.Are our lives really worth the same in practice though? When shit hits the fan I'm not getting evacuated unless there's still space left after all the women and children. If someone breaks into the house, no woman is stepping out to face danger and protect me but I'm expected to, it is normal for me to potentially die which is why I am more aware of risks and put more effort into mitigations cos in practice it's all on me and I'm on my own. Talk is cheap, reality gives a rude awakening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 07:06 AM |
| 0 | I think there's a simple way to get people to understand why men shouldn't risk their lives for strangers.The challenge here is your talking about what you want and appreciate. I'm supposed to think about what is good for you, whilst you think about what is good for you too, who thinks about what is good for me? Don't I matter too? Shouldn't you be talking about what you do for others not what you'd expect others to do for you? It's not a social contract if we don't all hold up our ends of it and some of us gave enough to realize other people will take and never give and won't even care if it ends y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 07:01 AM |
| – | Woman get's the ick because she was treated like a friend. A common issue in male/female relationships?Female friends are often burdens because they have a sense of entitlement and do not reciprocate. I have lots of female friends, there's been only one over the years who truly reciprocates. Guy friends on the other hand, the vast majority do and they show appreciation because they don't feel entitled to your time, effort or money. Guys don't generally go out and put themselves into situations with the expectation that it's their friend's responsibility to fix their problems. If a guy gets too dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 02:38 PM |
| 1 | If large age gap relationships with 20somethings isn't weird, would being friends with 20somethings when you're 30 or 40+ be weird?Honestly it comes across as you're projecting your limited view on who you can learn from and relate to onto the rest of us. Growing up, most of my friends were much older, at 18 my closest friend was in his late 50s. I now have friends who are much older and much younger than me and I learn different things from them and we enrich each other's experiences and broaden reach others perspectives. Friendship isn't about age or sex or income or any other demographic sticking point, is about whether … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 10:18 AM |
| 1 | If men are inherently driven by the obtainment of sex, and the lack there/in search of effects their thoughts, feelings and behaviors about themselves/towards others. Would it be better for society if men held less power and influence in society?I have a friend who is a male nurse. He makes over ten times what the female nurses he did nursing school with do. Why? Sexism? Nope, he put thought into which areas of nursing to specialize in and then took every available upskilling course and all the overtime he could get to quickly ramp up his relevant experience. He was working full time at a hospital and also working as nurse for a surgery. He worked twelve out more hours a day almost every day for years whilst his female counterparts did … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:49 PM |
| 1 | If men are inherently driven by the obtainment of sex, and the lack there/in search of effects their thoughts, feelings and behaviors about themselves/towards others. Would it be better for society if men held less power and influence in society?As someone from one of the many countries she held as a colony and continued to resource rape after our 'independence' I call bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:36 PM |
| – | CMV: "Men are only shamed/judged/badly treated within a context X because they are assholes about it/misbehaved" is some insane just world fallacy bullshit.1) Read some Gab Saad for a structured, experimental approach to Evo psych and you'll find some pretty good experiments across cultures to test key hypotheses including measuring salivary testosterone response etc for objective measures of reaction to stimuli. 2) Read some Roy Baumeister for an experimental psychology approach to these issues that is often multi disciplinary and involves collaboration with scientists from a range of fields. 3) Read Camille Paglia and others for an anthropologica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 11:30 AM |
| – | CMV: "Men are only shamed/judged/badly treated within a context X because they are assholes about it/misbehaved" is some insane just world fallacy bullshit.The left can't engage ideologically because there's no evidence to back their delusions so they have to shout and shame and stifle debate. They can only bully, shriek like children, silence ideas they don't like and can't argue against and accuse everyone is being impure and morally wrong for not agreeing with them, racist, sexist, phobic, they throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 10:56 AM |
| – | CMV: "Men are only shamed/judged/badly treated within a context X because they are assholes about it/misbehaved" is some insane just world fallacy bullshit.I'm a black man who gets called racist by white liberals who think they're magical saviours for all us 'natives' when I point out how the policies they support actually have terrible outcomes for black people. There are black Trump supporters and black republicans, are they self hating black racists because they don't think the way you think they should? Are you the greater racist for painting everyone with the racist brush and not judging people by the content of their character and the strengt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/23 10:51 AM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menAt some point you're going to have to accept that to these women, you're not a human being deserving of any empathy if your genitals dangle, you can only be a temporarily useful tool or a villain who deserves even unprovoked attacks because testicles. These are people who justify the rape and genial mutilation of boys whilst aghast at the thought of it happening to girls. A six month old baby is undeserving of protection from mutilation in their eyes by virtue of having a penis, how could such p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 09:40 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Men aren't assholes for treating you different after a rejectionNobody is saying things but this is actually a question of self preservation and risk management. You were seen being rejected by her in a public space. She presumably consumed alcohol after rejecting you and now you get seen taking her home? There are very many ways that could be twisted into ruining your reputation or god forbid something happens to her after you dropped her off or she 'changes her mind' and hooks up with you, drunk after publicly rejecting you. That's prison calling. There is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 01:34 PM |
| 1 | If expecting a woman to cook/clean *because she’s a woman* is misogyny, then wouldn’t expecting chivalry from a man *because he’s the man* be misandry?Dude, it's crazy. It's as though people actually can't comprehend someone finding something interesting and important and wanting to learn more about it and debate it to challenge their perspectives. They jump straight to incel this and no woman wants you that and you can't get a relationship. Meanwhile the madam is critiquing red pill YouTubers with me... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 12:52 PM |
| – | Men are the Mob enforcers of the worldQuestion. Do you think all male behavior is socialized and our genetics and hormones have no impact? If they do, how do you separate inherent male behaviour and emergent male behavior from hormone response or inherent situational response from socialized behavior? For example, what does testosterone do to both men and women? How much more testosterone do men have than women? What are the predictable behavioral impacts of having that much more testosterone and to what extent are you pathologising… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 12:25 PM |
| – | The way men in the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselvesSo if a problem particularly affects people of my race I should shut up about it because I'm being a self hating black person by pointing out what's destroying black communities? How are we supposed to fix things if we can't even talk about them and who are you to define what we can it cannot talk about? Nothing I said was an attack on any race but merely publicly available statistics on African American social dynamics and crime which affect other African Americans. You want me use white out of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 10:14 AM |
| 1 | The way men in the manosphere express their preferences is far more problematic than the preferences themselvesDo you think social shaming a totally pointless or even inherently negative thing that somehow magically civilisations across the world all developed and by some coincidence all targeted at behaviors deemed distructive to the stability, survival and well-being of their communities? If not, perhaps people, both men and women who shame socially destructive behavior are merely playing their part in encouraging social cohesion and flourishing whether they realize it or not. The stats on childhood ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Do TRP men even have interests outside of getting laid?The global demographic collapse is one of the most significant and ignored things right now and I have a keen interest in understanding how it happened and where is heading, TRP / understanding western dating dynamics is a big part of that. I have an interest in anthropology, in evolutionary psychology, in behavioral psychology etc and few phenomena are as universal and as distinct as sex and dating. TRP is a great way to compare what is universal across dating cultures and what is distinct to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 06:28 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Red Pill is nothing more than a misogynistic women hating movementOP, please please please save this thread for yourself. It's going to make a very funny read in a few years when you've actually lived and experienced the things you opine so confidently and ignorantly about. There's an old saying about how MGTOW and RP don't recruit, they wait. Life often leads you understand the people you were conditioned to blindly condemn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 11:23 AM |
| 1 | American capitalism has destroyed datingVery well put | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 08:27 AM |
| 1 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.They're researchers and philosophers addressing the questions at hand. If you don't want to understand any of the studies and literature that leads people to a conclusion then how on the hell can you state the reasoning behind their position is flawed? Engage with the ideas, with the studies etc and if you can build a sound logical case for why the conclusions are wrong, you'll have something new for us all to learn from. But you don't like to think, or read it understand things before you jump … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.Ad hominems, you're so smart lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:49 PM |
| 1 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.This is like saying don't bother to read Marx, I've looked at the communism subreddit and it is the primary source of all that is Marxism. Core TRP existed before there was a even a reddit, let alone a reddit group called TRP. Since the early 2000's when the matrix became an analogy that encouraged people to start to see through ideology and question sacred cows about dating and since the internet began to affect dating options. Read some Prof Gad Saad, Prof Roy Baumeister, Camille Paglia etc, l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 12:01 PM |
| 2 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.You decide what you want to use a toolbox for. It's existence does not compel you to use it in a specific way. For the 16 year old trying to get his first date, tools have a different use than for the 40 year old who is happy with his wife and wants to understand the dynamics well enough to not end up a statistic, using his tools to keep his side of the attraction and collaboration of their marriage alive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 11:56 AM |
| 1 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.It's handbook? Which handbook, written by whom? What is their authority? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?And yet, in both cases, understanding the trucks didn't ruin them for men who understand the skill and dedication they take. Wrestling fans willingly suspend belief in ridiculous levels of k fade and knowing it's scripted means they appreciate the artistry, physical skill and sheer bravado of the wrestlers even more. Magic is still fun as a demonstration of ingenuity and skill if you appreciate the talent and dedication it takes. People who don't appreciate the process and v just want the result… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 02:47 AM |
| 3 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Women rarely have idea how much work men out into what women perceive as things just happening. How much work and sacrifice did it take him to become the kind of man you would be attracted to? It's magical when you pick the finished product, you don't see the dedication, calculation, structure and diligence to become the finished product. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Expecting understanding from feminist women is a losing battle bruv. You will never be as human and your feelings will never be as important because you happen to have a penis. The clue is in the name and in the victim Olympics which they thought they'd won until trans women came and grabbed the title. The fact is, as a man, you will suffer and nobody will care. You will nobody to turn to in your suffering. But when you survive, you will be a fucking legend for getting through it alone. Things w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Feminism is a bunch of ideas about how society should be. It is not and has never been the basis of any lasting society. There is no evidence of a lasting feminist ancient civilization or any significant current civilisation anywhere in the world that was founded on feminism, prospered and grew. As an ideology, it's a daydream disconnected from reality, just like communism, except communism always leads to trend of thousands of even millions of deaths pretty quickly whenever anyone is dumb enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Very well put brother. Unfortunately the trouble with the empathy gap is most women and most men really don't have empathy for men. If men are assumed to always have power be responsible for everything and women are assumed to always be victims acted upon by men, you can see how so much of society would be totally incapable of being level headed and fair in any situation where the interests of women and men appear to be in conflict. Oscar Wilde once said the artist's only true goal is to be full… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Doesn't that depend on what people think of as wrong? Ultimately it becomes a normative and subjective question. Those that value the beauty of mystery will consider knowing enough to shatter their illusions as bad or wrong if they value the illusion above all. I think it was Wilde who said something about how to a doctor a beautiful woman is nothing but a collection of organs and potential diseases. Some ignorance about how things work may help solve people see them as beautiful and worthwhile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?Warhammer figures are modeled and painted by hand, they're not possessions merely accrued through purchase, they are individual works of art created by the player. I don't have any, I've never played Warhammer. But I do like the idea of people creating every single piece in their collection themselves. I like the idea of people focussing on delicate paintwork in a hyper saturated world and getting to slow down and get lost in something artistic. Urban western society seems to aesthetically dead,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?That's the point I was getting at. That people will ignore or even denigrate skill, diligence, artistic flair so long as it's not in a field that many women celebrate. It's basically reducing humanity's values and goals to whatever most women currently like. It's ridiculous. And I don't mean must women, I mean how many men are out here saying a thing only has value of it gets you laid, no artistic or philosophical growth, just the obsession with gaining the approval of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 02:24 AM |
| – | Q4Women How do you think men generally change themselves to find success in getting dates and keeping relationships?The question was about having to change it self improvement to get dates. That means every reply by a woman that said she self improved for herself doesn't fit that bill. Ever reply by a woman who changed how she sifted through her basket of suitors wasn't changing to get any/more dating options, she was just adjusting how she navigates her abundance. That's very different from the change yourself or you have no options whatsoever that many guys faced and investigating that difference was part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:20 AM |
| – | Q4Women How do you think men generally change themselves to find success in getting dates and keeping relationships?Thanks for noticing, I'd asked men and women to see the differences in how they're answer. Basically women's idea of changing themselves seems to boil down to being more pushy and 'assertive', or something basic and looks based. Hardly anyone had an actual problem attracting a potential mate, it was mostly about how to select better from a basket of options. There is very little self reflection or self questioning let alone someone feeling pushed to fundamentally change who they are so they fit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:11 AM |
| 3 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?The empathy gap never ceases to amaze. It's easier to think men who fail are defective and deserve it than it is question things systematically and maybe find out that social structures are broken and are leading to a situation where more and more ordinary, nothing wrong with them people are getting results you assumed only the dregs of society would. That way you don't have to understand them, care about them out worse question the structure and choices of people who aren't evil incels and ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?Are all/most the 41% of first time marriages in the US that end up in divorce made up of one of delusion try hards by your definition? Y'all act like all women immediately know what kind of person a man is and make logical, informed decisions about what their relationship with him would be from the outset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?How do people ascertain competence so they can see if you're being reasonably confidently? You seem to think everyone out at least all women can detect all forms of competence upon just meeting you. If that were true bullshitters who end up being disappointments when their chicanery and fakery are exposed later on in a relationship wouldn't be a thing. We have a saying in our language that translates to every man who is courting lies and every man holds his head down till he gets the girl and ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?Your initial thesis was just in your 30s you'd be considered less attractive. It turns out you were wrong and have higher value and success than in your 20s. What makes you so sure you're not also wrong about why you're doing better than you thought you would? How do you know you're attributing this to 'confidence' accurately and not that you act like you have more to offer because you actually do and were objectively less attractive before? If you were confident and unattractive, you'd be calle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?There's such a thing as discussing an idea to question a social trend. I'm not from a country whose people are the human equivalent of giant pandas and can't do something a simple as procreate so they have below replacement birthrates that are falling fast. I'm not from a community that has an 80% out of wedlock birth rate and a result grooms a majority of violent criminals on the country whilst being a minority. I'm trying to have a discussion about how women's ideas of what men should be / bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?41% of first marriages end in divorce, 70% of them initiated by the women, 90% if she is college educated. https://www.sowaldlaw.com/blog/2023/01/2022-divorce-statistics-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=An%20estimated%2041%20percent%20of,even%20higher%20in%20subsequent%20marriages. American women are not selecting for qualities that are not harmful long term of for people they can actually make a relationship last with. They're selecting for, dating and often marrying the guys they'll then call bad people an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:32 AM |
| 2 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?If there's a difference in how many men are into warhammer vs women, there literally aren't enough women who like what you've become good at for your mastering it to have any dating impact. You're a great chess player? How many women care? An amazing theoretical physicist? How many more men care about that than women? There are truly brilliant people who are just brilliant at things less women like than men do. How does that balance out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/23 01:01 AM |
| 3 | Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become?I don't quite buy that. What's the difference between being confident, arrogant and a delusional try hard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women How have you changed or improved yourself to improve your chances of getting the kind of relationship you want with the kind of man you want?And what if I may ask made you change? How was not growing a spine limiting you from getting with the guys you wanted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 10:14 AM |
| 1 | This video explains why the way men look at women creeps them outThe trouble with pathologising normal make sexual behavior is you have to bend over backwards to pretend women a) are never attracted to men and normal male behavior b) do not exhibit similar behavior and c) do not and have not benefited from such male behaviour. You also have to be so self righteous as to believe that throughout all of human history everyone had it wrong until the early 2000s when some men and most women except those who internalized 'wrong', 'male' thinking were magically fina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?All adults make bad decisions they later regret. That is the freedom and responsibility of adulthood. It seems a little strange that when men do dumb things they later regret, they tend to take responsibility and face the consequences and thus grow. Is there some idea that women are so fragile that they can't take the consequences of their choices? That sounds like a return to fainting couches for women and a paternalistic pain of messing up. Why infantalize women by stopping them from doing som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Interesting insight about toxic femininity needing to be discussed alongside toxic masculinity. If I may ask, what would you consider toxic femininity to be. What makes it toxic? Is it possible that masculine and feminine co-evolved and are co-dependant, balancing each other out? As in men and women are different specifically in ways that mitigate the extremes and weaknesses of the other. If that were true, that is it possible toxic masculinity or femininity could result from a separation betwee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Is it possible for an adult who is not under duress to have sex they do not want to? Is there an objective measure of how much you want to have sex and is it a binary of either zero interest in sex of maximum interest or is it more of a graduated scale where you can have different levels of 'want'? If so, at what exact point is it considered not really wanting to have sex? Who determines that level? Is the same level for everyone? How is anyone supposed to know in the moment or prove afterwards … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Thanks for the reply. This is something I've also observed in person and online. I'm always interesting in trying to understand now just how things are but also why things are. Do you think maybe it is a result of women's movements needing to present a singular image of women to try to justify why they get to claim they represent all of them? For example when you look at the sex negative and sex positive sides within modern feminism, they cannot co-exist and see each other as representing differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Thanks for the thought provoking reply. If I may be so bold as to add something. Most women cannot fight as well as most men. Additionally women tend to prefer men who 'make them feel protected', by being taller than then, ideally fitter than them. Thus if you two are attacked, it is not that if he doesn't fight, he will be questioned by society, it is he needs to fight and you, the weaker one does, both might die . He offers the best physical chance of your survival. The pressure men face is in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:10 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Is it possible that since women tend to be more neurotic than men, as shown in lots of studies, that women are mor elikley to take every negative reaction personally. That would result in not just claims of sexism but in seeing everything as a personal affront based on their gender, sexual preference, race, nationality or anything else. This would explain women being the loudest people in ALL grievance movements not just on gender. They would genuinely feel everything is a personal affront and g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?And again, if a man doesn't make enough money for the family, the impact is felt pretty quickly when there is no food on the table and no money for rent, so that gender role is non negotiable. If a woman is too busy with work to give the care her children need, it will likely only be when they are messed up adults decades later that the impact is felt. Thus it is easy to say the prioritising child minding and being presumed best person to raise children gender role isn't necessary and women shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 10:45 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Is it possible that traditional gender roles for men prevent very quick societal collapse, eg men not fighting to prevent invasion would see the end of Ukraine in days or weeks and thus it is much harder for society to accept men being weak. Meanwhile is it possible traditional gender roles for women are just as important but their results are seen on a much longer time scale, eg killing the birth rate with a one child policy in China or pushing below replacement birth rates in all western count… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 10:05 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Thanks for your candid response. I'm quite curious as to the challenges you face dating as black woman. (I'm assuming you're in the US?). I've seen studies by OKCupid and read the book by the site's founder identifying black women in the US as receiving the least messages compared to women of other races even after factoring out looks. This phenomenon even extended to men of all other races putting a premium on in group dating, preferring to message women of their own race after equalizing for l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women and for Blue pill. What do many or most women need to improve or fix about themselves?Yep, that's the idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 09:38 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?You can encourage mindfulness, long term thinking and factoring the likelihood of changes in values when you get what thought you wanted. People can make the exact same choices but be better prepared for the potential negatives and be better able to live with them. When people don't consider the opportunity cost of decisions and think or are told they will sacrifice nothing and get everything they want, they're setting themselves up bad parenting or regret over not being a parent. This applies b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I have never wanted kids and I still don't but I'm avoiding permanent actions that would make me unable to have them, in case her wants change and our circumstances change. It's entirely possible I may be happy to have a kid WITH HER if it's clear we're in a position to give the child a strong start in life. As such I'm working to ensure we're financially and mentally prepared if that happens and won't be blindsided. She is more likely to catch baby fever than I am but I'm much more likely to pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I think it's curious that we can't even have a conversation about the possibility of women changing their minds about having children and how it may be best to consider possible future changes of heart in your decision making without it becoming a straw man about wanting women to lose their bodily autonomy and be forced to have kids. We can't talk about risks to children when the risk stems from a woman's choices without again putting the woman's short term gratification over the morality of gam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I agree. Randomly getting pregnant without a plan, a relationship that can offer a good home for the child or parents preparing physically and mentally for it and getting all the key tests is not ideal and should be discouraged. I also think if you have a kid you don't want, you and the kid suffer. If you don't have the kid you wanted, only you suffer and if it's a predictable result of your own actions or choices then you have no one to blame but yourself. That said, I still think people thinki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?The anger when we're supposed to be having a reasoned discussion about the virtues of contingency planning and understanding the likelihood of and preparing for a potential future change of heart to minimize negative consequences for women and the kids they may decide to have later in life is bizarre. Most guys who don't want kids and think they never will don't get a vasectomy and seal that fate. Most women who don't want kids and think they never will don't get sterilized and seal that fate, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:23 AM |
| -1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I'm in total agreement, I think most people don't really think about if they really want kids, why they do, what's likely to change their minds and when it'll be more risky for the child and starts being a bit more selfish to gamble with the kid's well-being. Ideally people would be having their kids in their mid 20s to early 30s when they're both in the ideal physical shape, have years of peak fertility if they decide to have more kids and can grow with them. That kinda means being in a stable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?What two people do between themselves that doesn't impact others is their own business. The moment to your choice has externalities, it gets more complicated. I've been on the counseling distraught and in instances suicidal women whose success at other things and loving friends and siblings pale in comparison to the falling hole they feel would only be filled by the child they can no longer have because of their past lifestyle and choices. It's brutal, how do you console someone who can't live w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:03 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?Interesting you'd assume I don't have someone with a uterus that I have meaningful discussions about current wants vs potential future wants and how to balance them to minimize sub optimal outcomes and hedge our bets. Or that I haven't been consulted by many women in the very situation I'm describing when their wants changed and the thing they now wanted more than anything in world was something they could no longer have it could only have at massive risk to the child because of the consequences… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 11:52 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?When you've been asked to be a friendly sperm donor by roughly a dozen women who in spite of career success and having not wanted kids suddenly panic when their chances start to get slimmer and they realize they've been dating and living a lifestyle not conducive to them being in a relationship with someone who wants to have a kid with them, so they're willing to just have a kid with someone they think it's reasonable and smart and raise it themselves, I think you get to comment about how it can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 11:48 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: there are two walls and one of them is about relationship value not sexual value.Yeah, sadly the comments show that there clearly is still an argument because a surprising number of people are happy deny objective reality when it hurts their feelings or ideals of how they think things would be. Your wife sounds like an intelligent and responsible person. Congratulations to you both on the kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:59 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: there are two walls and one of them is about relationship value not sexual value.Bigger than us as in creating a life, a person who you set on their course through life, a purpose outside the vanity of personal indulgence and an aspiration to some higher, lasting legacy that for most people is only achieved through having kids and trying to raise them well. There are other possible purposes bigger than yourself but for most people, having a child is it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:56 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: there are two walls and one of them is about relationship value not sexual value.Hmm, is almost like I gave specifics about a particular type of situation and you replied as though I said a thing about all men and not specifically men who do want a child or expect to want one soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: there are two walls and one of them is about relationship value not sexual value.Trouble is the 40 to 50 year old men if successful can still date and marry a 10 or 15 years younger woman and have a better shot at building a family with her and having their own child together. There's no competing with nature on that if the man values having a child together and considers it the ultimate goal of any marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: there are two walls and one of them is about relationship value not sexual value.Men are not women and women are not men. There are key differences between us that we need to understand and navigate, bemoaning reality is pointless. Men are far more likely to be able to have a child later in life especially with a young, fit wife. So men can afford to have children much later in life, it's just biology. Lots of women have no interest in having children, until they're running out of time to have children and their hormones kick them in the face. If you only realize at 34 or 38… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:44 AM |
| 1 | Whats your sexual fantasy that will remain a fantasy? WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSo you want to be touched, ie you consent but you don't want to say it ie you consent but haven't said it and therefore the person you consent to touching you is molesting you because your consent was not vocalized? Sounds like a sexist perspective that ignores what a woman wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 12:17 AM |
| 0 | Whats your sexual fantasy that will remain a fantasy? WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADHow is he a molester if he is acting out your fantasy and doing what you want done to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/23 04:10 PM |
| 7 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.I can't wait to see that line in a court case where a woman has raped her underage student, "Your honor, the defendant cannot be held as liable for the rape because she was unlikely to orgasm and may even have caught a STI from the victim or felt pain as she was raping him". Sometimes I wonder if many people consider a male of any age to even be human, let alone deserving of the same empathy as female victim heck even the female perpetrator gets more compassion than the male victim often. A woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.The way bias works is almost anytime a man travels to another country and ends up having sex with a woman, it can be considered sex tourism. When a woman travels to another country, the definition of sex tourism is shrunk to something almost impossible for women to do. Kind of like how in my country no woman has ever raped a man because by definition rape can only be done to a woman by a man, never the other way around. If the definition we are measuring by is unequal, we will get very unequal r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:59 PM |
| 6 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.So if a broke African man sleeps with a western woman and gets money out of her, the man is exploiting her and the woman is a victim. But is a broke Thai woman sleeps with a western man and gets money out of him, he is exploiter her and she is a victim. You're literally making my point for me and showing the ridiculous double standard I am talking about. You think Thai women don't think a farang is their ticket out of Thailanf and into a wealthy western life or at least a financial scam? There i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.From what I've heard, women especially ex prostitutes are also the most cruel and exploitative pimps, willing to push young women, girls and boys into the most depraved things. Women are people, some are great, some are okay, and some are deeply fucked up, same as with men. Failure to see this is a big weakness that makes exploitation easier to hide and lure kids into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Such as shame the billions of people around the world seem to not align their lives around gaining or keeping your respect lol.... It's almost like you're a random foreigner who isn't involved, hasn't actually helped them or understood them and never will | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Prostitution is legal in say Venezuela. Two consenting adults in Caracas are engaged in an activity that is legal in the country it is happening, does your personal taste take precedence because you have superior western morals? Should the entire world be run by your tastes and preferences overruling every country's laws and norms? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:45 PM |
| 7 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Men can't lure young girls into getting themselves bundled off to Dubai or Munich etc. The assumption that women are inherently good is wonderful cover for them to traffic boys, girls and even babies and toddlers without anyone batting a eyelid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:41 PM |
| 4 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Do you think the fact that some men have sex with underage girls men's all men travelling and having sex with any woman of any age for any reason, with or without any compensation should be assumed to be child exploiting sex tourists? By the logic in play here, some men in west sleep with underage girls and therefore all men in the west who have sex with any woman may be assumed to be having sex with trafficked kids... Painting groups with a broad brush is more acceptable when the group is men, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:40 PM |
| 4 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.How does that make women sex tourists better? A man marrying someone and putting half is life savings and future income on the line and having kids with her that are officially his is risking all he has for her. And where better to live together than a country where your dollars go further and you can raise your family together for less whilst she gets to still be close to her family? This is the problem you prejudice creates... He doesn't marry her, he is using her / he does marry her and he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.In theory yes, in practise, 'racial equality' movements end up with things like 'good inequality' that addresses historic inequalities and privileges even when the people being dealt with were not there and are not even descendants of the people who were historically advantaged. The reason why African immigrants achieve more than African Americans on so many metrics is Africans aren't bothering with equality movements and pushing for special treatment and calling it fairness, they just work, do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 08:19 PM |
| 19 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.More like guy points out men and women are treated differently and that equality of the sexes is a farce. But yeah, nobody practices it in reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:56 PM |
| 8 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.I think the lines get blurred and often people in their eagerness to condemn 'sex tourism' basically end up condemning and shaming international marriages where the husband is from a rich western country. Women don't do that as often, women for all the talk of love etc are much less likely to actually marry broke fit guy from dodgy country. They're strictly about sex and a limited 'romance' fantasy that fits their specifications and not about giving half of everything they own unlike male 'explo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:49 PM |
| 29 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.I highly recommend you visit a female sex tourism haven and see for yourself what goes down and how crass the women are about the most intimate details. They're out her stating minimum dick size and girth and how many rounds a night minimum they want and how animalistic it has to be cos it's holiday sex in ways that would make most 'scummy' male sex tourists blush. But they're women so they're victims. You won't even realize how much female sex tourism there is because of how much of it classifi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Manosphere icons like Patrice O’Neal and Andrew tate are highly overratedThe fact that you can group the late great Patrice O'Neal with Andrew Tate shows just how little thought you've given to this before reflexively pilling onto the 'how dare any men or be women think things that some women don't like' bandwagon. You've never seen any women attracted to them? Yeah buddy tell yourself see helps you sleep at night and means you don't have to take responsibility for your own outcomes. Andrew Tate is a court jester but the whole point of the jester is he is the only on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/22 09:28 AM |
| 0 | How strong is the intersection between the Red Pill and the Alt-Right?Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of how racist so many people are in claiming someone like me, a black African, dislikes non whites because he has learnt enough history, philosophy and economics to see the folly of woke ideology. Go read some Thomas Sowell, listen to some lectures by great black conservatives, learn the history of the US's political parties and the impact of their policies, look at Trump's polling with Latinos and with black men and how in 2020 the demographic he lost votes in w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:12 AM |
| 3 | Romantically unsuccessful have a natural incentive to give the impression of being evil and violent since it is almost unanimously agreed that evil and violent men are very attractive to womenI'm not a short guy. I'm a bit above average, enough to meet the stupid 6ft criteria. And let me tell you nothing disgusts me more than the obsession women have with height and their inability to see men below some random height they pick as men, hell, as people. I think it's a western culture thing. I'm in Africa but we've grown up on American culture and it's insistence that what you feel and what gives you pleasure is what is right, without consideration for the future, for the wider communit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 08:07 AM |
| 2 | The Fight for Men’s HappinessSubbed, thanks for archiving so much of his great work! | /r/MGTOW | 27/04/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Good ol’ baby trap. Let’s see what this sucker does...I always pretend not to have a condom the first time, if I don't see the requisite reaction of no condom no hookup, I'm out. If she doesn't look after her own health, guess what she is likely to do to yours? | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/21 12:46 PM |
| 1 | I think I understand why women get less years in prisonWomen get lower sentences for the same reason children do. They are not considered responsible for their own actions. They are given the responsibility of a child and the respect of an adult without needing to justify it. | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/21 12:44 PM |
| 3 | Post Nut Clarity InsightStephen King is a ridiculous tradcuck but he shares in interesting analogy on 'Daniel Macabre'. He says society is like a nice neighbourhood where everyone has crocodiles in the basement. So long as you keep the crocodiles fed, they stay in the basement and don't bother anyone. But if you don't feed them, they break out in search of food and ruin the whole neighbourhood. Just because you need sex doesn't mean you let it rule you, you find the most efficient, least time consuming way to feed the … | /r/MGTOW | 26/04/21 12:42 PM |
| 3 | The Fight for Men’s HappinessThe man is a legend who was ahead of his time and taken too soon | /r/MGTOW | 25/04/21 01:21 PM |
| 2 | The curious case of Hollywood SIMP propagandaOlder cultures were good enough at rewarding make exploitation that most men didn't question it. We have the luxury of seeing the beast without makeup, in its full exploitative horror. But they were first and foremost all about using male power to benefit society and in particular women | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Sex Workers Are The Most Toxic Women EverIt is a service industry job like any other. Service providers have a duty of care for their clients and the smart ones would deliver such great service that they could foster repeat business or even higher rates. I think we should all be mutually respectful in all our jobs. | /r/MGTOW | 05/04/21 12:32 PM |
| 0 | Teen girl rats out her family to the feds after they attended the capitol protest.It might be interesting to see a gender based breakdown of who sold out their parents more under regimes such as Nazism, communism etc. Methinks we might find a 'gender snitch gap'... | /r/MGTOW | 11/01/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Today we will quarantine a group of men deciding that they would rather spend their time on Earth doing other things than being a woman's slave (we're asking too much). Meanwhile FemaleDatingStrategyWhat the actual fuck is going on with this madness. | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/20 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: How can you be “coerced” into sex?Dude, you're trying to reason and logic your way around people who think women are a gullible, weak willed and stupid as children and should not be responsible for their choices but also that they are powerful brave and strong and should be free to make choices. Good luck dealing with people whose argument's logical conclusion is that all sex between men and women could be coercive rape because all it takes is a man having any one bit of power/prestige/wealth and the women loses all decision mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 01:56 PM |
| 16 | Real reason Intel why failed to deliver 10nm for so long is because of feminismI think you should add the bean counter was forced to take the CEO role after declining it the first time and them scouring the world for a new CEO, offering massive pay but everyone staying the hell away from that dumpster fire. Funny how most men in the corporate world are such simps it sometimes takes a woman to be able to get away with hiring on merit without being called sexist. Lisa Su has the most badass men running the show for her, no diversity hires. The only 'diverse' guy was Raja who… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/20 08:11 PM |
| 11 | Women don't go past STAGE 3I remember when I first heard the theory and that women didn't go past level 3 I thought it sounded ridiculous because basic reasoning would gradually take you further up the list the more you thought about it. Then I saw the feminist professor agreeing that women can't get past level 3 but saying that is a good thing and rating the higher levels as above level 3 is basically patriarchal thinking elevating those higher moral levels instead of ignoring anything above where women max out. Seemed s… | /r/MGTOW | 01/01/20 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Any Whiskey Fans Here?Bushmills is the truth brother. Great flavour, very reasonable price. | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/19 06:21 PM |
| 7 | Just have a pussy and your life is pretty much guaranteed to be an easy one. Women really dont live in reality, crazy to think of how different there live are compared to that of the average man.What a stellar achievement. So much more of an achievement than the men who built the app and the infrastructure to scale with its massive user base and the AI to milk all the traffic and facial recognition data and monetize selling it to the Chinese and other governments. Yep, the real achiever is the booty shaking thot | /r/MGTOW | 25/11/19 01:26 AM |
| 5 | How f*cked is Bolivia ?She didn't win an election, she was put in by the military general who threatened the actual president and then she fucked over the general, replacing the entire army top brass. She says she is replacing the court system with her own 'neutral' people, for 'democracy'. She is a western puppet put in place to seize the lithium, they have 50 to 70% of the world's known reserves and the guy she removed was setting up mining deals to benefit the country's indigenous people and ensure local people did… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Mgtow ideas are pretty amusing.I am confused. Men choose not to marry or not to date and are pretty open about it, what is the problem? You opinion of a man who has no need for your validation is of no value to him. He owes you nothing, you owe him nothing. If MGTOW suck, than great they're congregating and making themselves visible so you can avoid them, but do you Apparently not. I was MGTOW for years before I'd ever heard the term. So are lots of men. It isn't always about women and it especially isn't about you since I be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/19 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Why is no blame put on the men who leave their families, resulting in single moms?I am a single man, I have no kids outside of wedlock, I have never rushed into having a kid without thinking about it, never rushed into a marriage. The kind of men and women who rush into those kinds of things are not taking the responsibilities associated with that seriously. But let us be real, men cannot get pregnant. Nature built us a certain way and if a risk affects one party more than the other, the more affected party should be more careful as they have more to lose. A baby daddy is an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 03:18 PM |
| 3 | An observation on the history of rapIt is fascinating how they manage to test stuff out on one group of men, defend it by claiming it is only targeting those men and not all men and other men shouldn't worry, then spreading it to everyone gradually. Black american men are screwed before they're even old enough to listen to hip hop by being raised by angry black single mothers. Then they listen to music by rappers raised by angry black single mothers who can't control their emotions and think rationally like men. You listen to Noto… | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/19 10:42 PM |
| 4 | When paying for sexYep, the top three HIV infected places are all neighbours. What is really shocking is the number of sex tourist women who comes here to shag a 'savage' African and how many of them end up pregnant. Some countries had to change their immigration policy so now the guy doesn't get citizenship by just impregnating her, he has to marry her. And the really ridiculous thing is the HIV NGO workers running around banging random dudes after spending all day preaching about dumb Africans having unprotected… | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Should be an interesting read, based on what I’ve read from this sub and other places online. Definitely looking forward to it.It will blow your mind. Should be recommended reading for everyone | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 01:56 AM |
| 11 | 😂😂😂Brilliant | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 01:54 AM |
| 11 | When paying for sexBrother, I am in the country with the second highest HIV rate in the world and everyone is so casual about it its scary. There is are also drug resistant strains of syphilis and gonorrhea now to make it even more complicated. I never take any chances. Good to know fellas are staying safe out there.... Funny thing is you read the stats and women have higher infection rates than men at all ages, and single men who aren't in long term relationships have the lowest infection rate because they don't … | /r/MGTOW | 30/10/19 01:48 AM |
| 10 | Women in business: Do you know women who have run businesses into the ground?Kathleen Kennedy has destroyed Disney's massive investment into Star Wars, the lady running their theme parks was caught hiding over 6 billion in losses. Amy Pascal at Sony ruined all their attempts at summer blockbusters including such nonsense as the all female Ghostbusters. | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 01:02 PM |
| 1 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.The man was a prophet ahead of his time. Way ahead of any redpill or PUA folks. Gone too soon. | /r/MGTOW | 22/10/19 08:35 AM |
| 2 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.The worst is when they present surface level interest or knowledge and you think aha! I've found the smart, intellectually curious one, then you quickly discover that as soon as you scratch below the surface, she 'loses' interest and only plays at doing things. As Esther Vilar put it, to most women, being intelligent is a fashion statement with dress code not an interest in intellectual activities. Look at what happened with geek culture, before it had social capital, it was for nerds and losers… | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 02:26 PM |
| 1 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.I don't think women are the enemies of men, they have a completely different plane of existence from us and would get nothing done if it were not for men deferring to them. Men who defer to women are the enemies of men and enablers of women's ridiculousness. There is nothing that dangerous about women wanting stupid stuff that would ruin society if they can't get it, they're just silly. You ignore them and move on. The problem is the men working their damndest to burn it all down for short term … | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 12:18 PM |
| 2 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.Sad thing is there so many men on there willing and ready to debate, share ideas and consider the female perspective in a rational way to better understand the situation as a whole. Only to drink deep the waters of disappointment when flooded with hurt feelings, anecdotes and lame attempts at shaming men they can't argue with | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 11:59 AM |
| 3 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.Methinks it is those that expect the most of women who usually end up going MGTOW. If you never respected women, you would not expect the same of them as you do of any man. If you expect that of them though, you find it lacking and realize you see more in them than they see in themselves and that is your fault. You accept what they are and you move on. It is the same for women as it has been for my fellow black people. You love them until you see they do not wish better for themselves, they do n… | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 11:56 AM |
| 3 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.I think Esther Vilar covered it wonderfully when she said at birth there is no evidence that women are intellectually inferior to men. But by the time they're even six years old, they've gotten used to being treated differently, getting more concern, having others fix their problem and come running faster if they cry than if their brother does. They learn manipulation is easier than work and a brain without practice withers. They choose not to think for long that they lose all intellectual curio… | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 11:51 AM |
| 2 | We have fundamentally different values because we see things at a grander scale.I was blown away when I first found out about Kohlberg's stages of moral development and that the main writer to build on the idea was a feminist who agreed that women didn't reach the higher stages but merely argued the higher stages were not inherently better or superior. I thought it was ridiculous so I asked a sample ethical question to lots of men and women and maybe 1 in 5 or less women even got to level 3, most were on levels 1 and 2. Even when I tried to explain to them my reasoning for … | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 11:46 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Would a man see a zombie film as missing something if it didn't have a love interest? I don't think most men would notice if the story was good enough. World war 2 epics with little room for romantic tomfoolery are still much loved, so much so that I hear they're making a sequel to Band of Brothers. They're for the most part not being watched by women. What will be curious is seeing what a band of Brothers sequel in the current year will look like and if they will find a way to shoehorn romance … | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 01:46 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?I read a lot of nonfiction, and the occasional fiction from before world war 2. But I also appreciate cinema as an art form, I just mostly watch old stuff or foreign stuff now because the western stuff is so bad now. | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/19 01:39 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?I used to love "Dogs with a blog", sweet, funny, all ages appropriate, haven't heard anything shady about any of the team that did it and their idea of including adult themes is having a dog try pavlovian conditioning on humans, not nasty fetishes. Sadly it got cancelled. | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 03:31 PM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?There were several kick ass women snipers on the Russian front in World War 2, sadly the movie I saw about the best of then was ruined by the addition of love interest nonsense. Women can be great shooters, helicopter pilots etc but the problem is in the context of most movie narratives, great isn't good enough, they have to be the best and the best is almost always realistically a man. All women's athletics world records are beaten by boys Under 16 records. The highest ranked female Starcraft p… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 02:26 PM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Funny thing is when the rare woman who can actually fight tries to do an action film, there is no love from the industry. At least have a female MMA fighter or muscle bound martial artist using some good technique if you're going to sell us on her beating up bigger men. | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 12:52 PM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Part of why this stuff is such a disservice to women is it appears feminism tries to make women better at being men instead of being better women. Male forms of power are the only ones recognized whilst female power is ignored lest it ruin the impression of men being responsible for all that is wrong with the world. I quite like period dramas, especially when they're based of books from the period. They tend to show different forms of power and how they interplay. The dashing masculine adventure… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 12:28 PM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?I've lost count of how many times I've watched the original "12 angry men", the acting holds up beautifully, so expressive, and the themes resound even today. I recently watched 'M', the german film from 1931 and was blown away by the acting and expressions, the villain actually manages to be repulsive and induce pity at the same time. | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 11:39 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Don't get me started about ethics in game journalism and the pandering of game developers and publishers to the shrieking outrage mob that can't bear the idea of men having fun | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 11:36 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?You can't fight in here, this is the war room! That was a truly insightful film, still blows my mind every time I rewatch it. First time I watched Demolition Man I saw action with a bit of comedy, as an adult I see deep social commentary and a spot on vision of the PC future we created and how weak it has made our society | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:49 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Game of thrones after Beniof and Weiss ran out of book material to adapt became a bunch of strong, brave, smart women and Kit Harrington in plot armour. I mean seriously, Sansa was schooling Tryion on being smart and trusting no one, WTF? The little lady mormont killed a giant WTF? It was a disgrace and a disservice to the great character building that had been done before. The Matrix.... The film whee Neo refuses to cheat on Trinity to get Monica Belluci to help save humanity because the feelin… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:47 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Japan seems to be immune thanks to its cultural isolation and refusal to bend to the west and let others dictate its norms. There are a few live action shows with overly awesome women but they aren't anti male and there as many if not more overly awesome men in other shows. | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:38 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?The romance in movies isn't put there for the guys. No guy cares if Stallone and Sandra Bullock hook up in "Demolition Man", they come for the ass kicking action, they stay for the philosophical questions and dystopian politically correct future depiction that with time has been shown to be more and more prescient. Male oriented films must have romance to try to bring in a female audience. What is universally done to female oriented films to make them appeal to a male audience? I can't think of … | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:36 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?It is lazy writing and poor acting protected by ideology though. I would not complain so much if it were entertaining but it is shoddy and only gets by because standards have dropped all around for movies. How many of the films made in the past 15 years or so would make it into an all time greatest list? How many are worth watching, let alone would be enjoyed on second viewing? Their politics and misandry aside, these people aren't exactly making the next The Godfather. Heck, their penchant for … | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:23 AM |
| 2 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Many a time I have downloaded a movie, watched the first few minutes and deleted it and felt like demanding my bandwidth back. I gave up on them ages ago. Funny how they can't tell a decent story now but I can rewatch Lethal Weapon, Blazing Saddles, The Seven Samurai etc for the hundredth time and still be thoroughly entertained. Even when I know all the dialogue, the delivery is done so well it feels new each time and it is like I'm uncovering a deeper layer of its meaning. often you find subtl… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:19 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?Kids shows especially scare me. What the fuck is "Drag Kids"? You see articles about these pre teen drag kids and they're all saying they were inspired by TV, by Dru Pauls Drag race etc. And don't get me started on the number of convicted child molesters working for Nickelodeon, the ones with very strong allegations working for Disney etc and they're always pushing the men are evil angle whilst themselves being the worst form of evil and using their media to groom kids. The convicted pedo direct… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:15 AM |
| 1 | How do you put up with movies and TV shows?I had a great collection of mostly foreign movies and TV series, truly brilliant stuff with great, original writing, spectacular acting and none of the ridiculous tropes that have pervaded western media. sadly the hard drive ended up caught in the process an acrimonious split (think long and hard before you work with women, if you don't factor in irrational, short sighted impulsiveness, you will regret it)... Slowly rebuilding the collection. It seems the infection has spread sadly, I'm seeing m… | /r/MGTOW | 20/10/19 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?You said it was annoying and I pointed out how the thing you think is annoying is basically inevitable unless you propose policing people's actions to suit your feelings as described. I did not question whether you feel annoyed, I pointed out your feelings of annoyance are ridiculous in the face of normal human mating practices. I have not taken offense, I am pointing out the solipsism on your part that is required to justify feeling annoyed. Maybe you think your annoyance exists in isolation fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?Please the "fake science" comment comes with no attempt to cite alternative theories or disprove what you've said. Stunning and brave to fight ideas with lack of them... I think you may have a point, it likely is part of the explanation, especially with women who can't understand fully why it is wrong, just that it is some sort of cheating. Rather like many men's distaste for makeup when they keep hitting women who are wearing makeup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?And yet people go out, meet, mix and mingle. And they hook up with other people, not always the very first person they met, the night doesn't end because one person turned someone down. They don't leave the town and only date outside it because everybody knows they tried hitting on someone and it didn't work out. In real life, guys dust off and try again with someone else and pretty quickly learn to navigate the associated questions. That said I am in a very different environment that y'all and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?Except it works, you don't want it to, you think it is insulting but it can be done and has been done. And how do you expect a guy who doesn't know you or anyone in your group to be particularly interested in you. He knows nothing about you except what you look like. Until he has gotten to know you and built a connection of some sort, you are completely interchangeable with any similarly attractive person. If it doesn't work on you, he will try someone else. Heck, if your friend is much hotter t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?You say you take issue with the quality of the pickup line and yet I would argue you take issue with the person delivering the pickup line, not the line itself. Its just that when it works you do not think of yourself as the kind of person who would fall for a stupid pickup line. You tell yourself you were both being ironic and secreting mocking lame pickup lines, maybe you even were, but the fact is the terrible pickup line works and you don't hold it against the right guy. Also, to be honest, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?So, because it doesn't work on some women or some men can't quite pull it off, all men must not do it and all women are denied it, even the ones who do enjoy it? Unless you're saying women not into being picked up must wear some kind of bright shiny badge to highlight it, you're advocating stopping all people from hooking up because some aren't into it and would get hit on and could easily say no, no harm done. It's almost as though your notion of what is annoying and gross is more important tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Is this why the hate for PUAs?Hatred is a strong emotion, why would it be elicited by someone merely being pathetic unless they're showing you something you don't like about yourself or society... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Pick One: female gender roles or unhappy womenYou may like "Brainwash", a surprisingly deep and insightful show by a Norwegian comedian, each episode he tackles a controversial subject and talks to researchers across the world about it. In the episode dealing with gender roles, he finds that the richer a country is, the more likely women are to choose to fulfill traditional gender roles. It is not that poverty and evil patriarchal culture are holding back African and Muslim girls from doing STEM, it is the other way round. In a poor country… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/19 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy in younger generations is because men are deciding to be less attractive yet angrier and more entitledYou forget that women have desires but also insist on not taking responsibility or risk for them. Women will berate you for not having choked them without asking because asking isn't masculine and you should know when to take control. Then women will say you shouldn't have taken control and you should respect their autonomy and ask or magically 'read their signals'. Men engage in behaviour that they believe will get them sex and keep getting them more sex. Women determine what that behaviour wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 12:31 PM |
| 8 | Hypergamy in younger generations is because men are deciding to be less attractive yet angrier and more entitledAs the legendary Black Phillip put it, you don't ask a fish how to catch fish, you ask a fisherman. A fish will tell you it needs nice warm waters, plenty of comfortable seaweed, better than the stuff other fish have etc. It will tell you it is not like those dumb fish you've heard of and it won't fall for stupid shit. Then a fisherman will catch it with the same worm on a hook trick that worked for every other fish since time immemorial. He said every man has more game than the most sexually ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 12:25 PM |
| 14 | Hypergamy in younger generations is because men are deciding to be less attractive yet angrier and more entitledFunny how y'all insist on calling rough sex a man perversion when all the stats from the billion wicked thoughts Google study and Pornhub etc point to women being primarily into choking, rape fantasies, rough sex etc. Men are looking at milfs and teens, skinny and fat women, their tastes are very wide ranging, so wide you cannot argue porn has made them have standards to high that the average woman can't meet them. There are female pornstars across races, sizes and ages, each appealing to men an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?What is scary is the people on this sub are the moderates, they for the most part are the ones at least open to discussion and debate. Venture into TwoXChomosones or something similar and you may lose all faith in humanity or at the very least western civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?Have you read any Camille Paglia or watched her lectures? She convinced me that religion, especially Christianity has contributed so much to art and aesthetics that it being wrong is irrelevant and the world would be a sorry place without it. I would like for some people to show us atheists the gorgeous pageantry and devout piety of religion minus the hypocrisy and spreading of the word, religious wars, judgement etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?What pray tell is a dirt lemur? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?It's not really their fault, they couldn't in their wildest dreams or nightmare imagine the nonsense that is out there now. I always tell my friends who got married ages ago to try dating one of these single people out there whenever they are talking about how bad they have it and wanting a divorce. Many dipped their toe in the dating scene and ran back to their spouses with a new found appreciation for them, having seen the cesspool that is out there now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?Sometimes it is so bad it is mind numbing but you cannot look away and you keep reading on. There are so many sensible ideas that get pushed to ridiculous extremes and so many people who seem unable to exercise basic logic, formulate an argument or know what counts as evidence of a type of claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I was pleasantly surprised when I first bumped Sandman and MGTOW, I think like many people I was MGTOW before I knew the term or the movement. In classic Duning Kruger fashion, I used to be young and slightly well read enough to be a progressive, in time and with more information and a humbling realization of just how complex things are and how little we know for sure, I ended up understanding the value of things that worked even if we didn't know how and the value of religion even as an atheist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I'm afraid I can understand your pessimism about modern discourse but I am a little hopeful as I have had my beliefs changed in my lifetime by new information, new ideas, debate etc. I defended my youthful inclination towards a much milder notion of social justice than the nonsense that has taken the west by storm lately until I could not ignore the implications and the evidence and now I'm squarely against it. Like you, I bring forth my ideas that they be tested in the fire of brutal intellectu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I think people struggle with flexibility and caveats. They tend towards extremes, either refusing to see any patterns at all or insisting that everyone must fall squarely into the observed pattern when in fact there is lots of variability in human nature and on top of it we add variability in environment, be it social, legal, economic or moral, all of which result in individuals or sub groups behaving in a manner outside that of a perfectly accurate mean. Funny thing is the very same people who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?May I recommend "Is there anything good about men" by Rof Baumeister, I think you'd find it enthralling and enlightening. Will take a look at the books you mentioned, I'm always doen for some good non fiction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?The dogma gets a bit overboard when its just people who agree with other. Though to be fair to MGTOW and TRP, nobody does over the top dogma like TwoXChromosones.... Geez, I got banned from their subreddit for posting on MGTOW. How can you have a debate and learn from each other if you ban people for talking to anyone you disagree with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I'm afraid I've never really watched it, I may have had one or two episodes play in the background whilst I was doing other things. It is one the biggest elements of contemporary western culture I have no experience with or insights on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?Which pill if you don't mind me asking. And how do you spread it? Especially when as I mentioned, someone here for personal reasons might not be amenable to logical argument or population level phenomena, whilst someone looking at things at that scale might dismiss your personal experience and drive for your pill are statistically irrelevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?Haha, I've been known to get a bit caught in somebody being egregiously wrong on the internet... Sometimes they're so far off the mark, they're not even making enough sense to be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?Never got around to reading "Sex at dawn" though I've got it somewhere. I should probably take the plunge when I get the time. I am familiar with many of the arguments, having read and being in agreement with much of the other similar literature, within limits. There is sometimes a certainty expressed about conclusions that are sensible speculation but speculation nonetheless or worse still, moral conclusions drawn about certain choices which I don't think are justified. Oscar Wilde speaking of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Discussion; What brings you to Purple Pill ? How does that affect what counts as evidence and what is important?I never read "The Game", though I do hear it brought up quite often. I was kicked in the gut by Esther Vilar's "The manipulated man" and it made me question a lot of things I had been mildly skeptical of but not really analyzed in depth. From there I found out about the usual men's rights stuff, Karen, Janice, there used to be a blog called Judgy Bitch.... Once I started to look at all the issues in a purely rational way, basically everything that I was supposed to believe never actually did fel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Woman and laptopsBruv, I've worked with women in IT and digital marketing and every single one of them had a laptop with a desktop littered with nonsense, stupid specs like nowhere near enough ram, malware all over the place etc and these are supposed to tech savvy people... Well, in reality, they just get guys to do all their work and take all the credit but don't understand what was done so when clients ask a technical question it get hilarious.... | /r/MGTOW | 24/08/19 01:24 PM |
| 4 | Black Mirror pushing Open-relationships and HomsexualityThe first two seasons of Black Mirror were brilliant and thought provoking when Charlie Brooker was writing and producing everything in the UK. The moment Netflix bought the show, there was nowhere to go but down, they took out the legitimate criticisms of big tech companies and tech that we maybe should think twice before messing with, took out criticisms of being mindless sheep and instead did a 180 and are now promoting being mindless sheep | /r/MGTOW | 07/06/19 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: would you date or LTR a woman who had worked in the sex industry if she never had sex?I live in a country that has throughout my life been in the top three worldwide on HIV infection, I've seen people waste away and die from AIDS. Across the western world multiple STIs are mutating into drug resistant strains and yet you have movements to 'destigmatize' them even as they spread like wildfire. People pushing a fuck everyone and you should have no consequences or judgment attitude are unrealistic idiots. Diseases don't care about that it is the current year and you're supposed to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/19 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Can't listen to 90% of music.Let me introduce you to legendary rapper Juvenile..... From his classic track, Juvenile on Fire Let's say I'm in a room with a bitch and the ho don't wan' fuck Like a man I'ma beat my meat and get my fuckin' nut, fa'sho' She gonna be drove then And I'ma cut the TV off and go to sleep on that ho then Now tell that to your girlfriend, you tell her everything else She gon' to be with her boyfriend, you gon' to be by your damn self While I'm in my Benz with your friend And she bout to get nervous … | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Historically, queens have waged more war than kingsSo the article basically says women are more warlike BUT it is men's fault for taking of the boring everyday state business so women leaders can focus on the fun war mongering? | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/19 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP who believe in “toxic masculinity”: What are positive masculine traits?It is very simple to figure out. Toxic masculinity is any masculine thing that either does not benefit women and children/ society as a whole or worse inconveniences them. Masculinity must serve others not the man, the moment your masculinity serves your interests and only yours, it is toxic. You should be strong but only so other can use your strength to fight for them, if you fight yourself, you are being toxic. You should be emotionally available only when it is to the convenience of others. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 01:50 PM |
| 1 | One thing posters agreed on in the "sympathy for men" thread is that genetically or socially disadvantaged people are resented by others. Do you think sympathy is largely a myth?People want to help, many of them don't realize that helpful white saviours are a huge part of the problem. For example, if a dictator has mismanaged his economy, looted everything and caused starvation, 'nice' people coming in with food aid are just empowering the government that gets to control the flow of aid and can now feed enough people to put off a revolt and punish opposition supporters by not giving them the aid. I have seen this first hand in my own country, it happens all over the thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 01:01 PM |
| 1 | One thing posters agreed on in the "sympathy for men" thread is that genetically or socially disadvantaged people are resented by others. Do you think sympathy is largely a myth?For so long as western countries loot more from Africa than they 'give' as aid, it is a profitable venture and cannot be deemed based on any sympathy for the entirety of Africa. Also you'd be surprised that many of us are not in need of sympathy and even those in bad situations would be better off if folks just left Africa alone rather than meddled and kept 'accidentally' profiting from the trouble their meddling creates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 11:48 PM |
| 1 | One thing posters agreed on in the "sympathy for men" thread is that genetically or socially disadvantaged people are resented by others. Do you think sympathy is largely a myth?Bruv, let me assure you, as someone in a third world country seeing these NGO people, what they do and why every day, and as someone who has looked up publicly available information about these groups, they are not the cuddly angels you may think. None of them are saints, most of them are terribly selfish in ways you may not see at first, deeply prejudiced against the people they are helping and some are the lowest of the low. It is no coincidence that so many UN peacekeepers, NGO workers and ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 11:45 PM |
| 1 | White men not welcomeI think there is a simple solution. If you're into this crazy identity politics stuff, you just sign up specifying the preferred race, gender and sexual orientation you want in a fire rescue officer. You can even get a little wristband showing your preference. If the available fireman is a white heterosexual male and you chose a trans muslim arab, then he gets to leave you and your stuff to burn whilst you wait for someone who fits your requirements. Problem solved. Same thing with people who … | /r/MGTOW | 31/01/19 07:49 PM |
| 7 | Toxic Femininity and Vagina Privilege Combo.You can't even warn or advise them, the simps get angry and end up attacking you when you're just trying to help them avoid impending doom. They insist of learning by being destroyed instead of learning from the mistakes of others and through observation, deep thought and reflection. | /r/MGTOW | 25/01/19 05:45 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on "last minute resistance" "being coy" "token resistance" and "no doesnt always mean no?"I love my freedom way too much to take those chances and risk having to explain to some officer that her no meant yes if she regrets it the next morning. If you are wiling to take those kinds of chances to fuck women who refuse to grow up and take responsibility for what they want, knock yourself out but don't come crying to anyone else if the woman who responsibility won't take her own sexual choices says she didn't consent and was pressured. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Married women have a much higher HIV infection rate than commercial sex workers in Zimbabwe...I think black people are just like anyone else, they just have a belief and incentive structure that is not in their best interests. They tend to try to blend their traditional and western cultures but they take the worst elements of both instead of the best. They have no knowledge of their own history and that leads to nonsense like thinking it's 'white' to read, ignoring the ancient library at Alexandria. That they should always resort to violence, ignoring the Rozvi empire which was build on … | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Married women have a much higher HIV infection rate than commercial sex workers in Zimbabwe...I think black people are just like anyone else, they just have a belief and incentive structure that is not in their best interests. They tend to try to blend their traditional and western cultures but they take the worst elements of both instead of the best. They have no knowledge of their own history and that leads to nonsense like thinking it's 'white' to read, ignoring the ancient library at Alexandria. That they should always resort to violence, ignoring the Rozvi empire which was build on … | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Why are women so boringI think there is an inherent lack of curiosity and urge to explore/understand the world in almost all women. They will learn something or be able to talk about something if there is an immediate benefit to it, but not out of genuine interest. i have very wide ranging interests and when meeting an accountant, physicist, lawyer, politician or whatever, I usually have a few interesting theories I've come across in their field that make for a great discussion. With almost all women however, it becom… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Could this research help to explain the RP and BP divide: Assortative mating in politics.Call me crazy but last I checked it seemed the whole TRP argument was based on realz over feels? If anyone is driven by data and studies, both reading up on them and analyzing their own experiences, it is the TRP, MGTOW crowd, whereas the blue pill argument is usually more faith based and about hoping things turn out well. It is very curious that you claim it if TRP that is all about feels... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Women want men as much as men want women... just not for the same reasonsWoman finds guy hot, humans like all animals like to fuck others that they find hot. Woman fucks hot guy and it is not her natural choice but society's fault for making her think she is 'supposed to'? You know how ridiculous that sounds? The day I started to understand women was the day I realized how powerful self delusion and lying to yourself to never be responsible for your choices and actions can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Women want men as much as men want women... just not for the same reasonsMight I ask how many times you have asked out a guy you were attracted to, made the first move not knowing if you would be rejected and possibly embarrassed, how many times you have been rejected with just a look by someone who doesn't even know you because they dismissed you before you even say hello? How many times have you tried 'taking your time' with someone you are interested in only to find you're now the go to for advice on what to do about other girls? You're not malevolent, you're inca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Dating requirements : Men vs WomenGov, there are so many chubby chasers that'll do chicks with their gravitational orbit... They don't even have to not be a landwhale, they just have to be female | /r/MGTOW | 01/12/18 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Alright boys, get your popcorn ready.African here, whales are not native to the continent and therefore would be unable to survive and have the dangerous knock on effect of attracting scavengers attracted to whale meat. May we recommend sending them to Australia? | /r/MGTOW | 01/10/18 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Instagram model is jailed for 18 months after she attacked a traffic cop 'and offered officers SEX if they turned a blind eye to a road offence'Am I noticing a pattern with Russia taking no shit from nobody and having no pussy passes to give? | /r/MGTOW | 06/09/18 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Yes! Teach your son to be a pathetic cuck with no confidence or self-esteem..I think this is great for the kid though, he is learning to not to step in to waste his effort helping ungrateful idiots and just watch them being incompetent and let them flounder. | /r/MGTOW | 27/07/18 11:20 AM |
| 2 | D.I.S.G.U.S.T.I.N.G. !!! Used slure gathers soyboy Cucks for wage collection. Pathetic dumb Cucks shamelessly serve slure bitch so she can leech off welfare state.Why is it always whales into this cucking their husbands thing? | /r/MGTOW | 23/07/18 11:56 AM |
| 1 | This bitch dumb as shit😂35 here, single, no kids and never being 'serious' with someone. Freedom is a beautiful thing but it is only for the strong. For many it is easier to be a slave to someone and something you don't understand so you don't have to go through the trouble of thinking about your choices and actions. I've never been happier and honestly can't even imagine giving up my freedom, once you get accustomed to liberation, the chains you're supposed to wear don't fit. If that is a flaw, its a pretty damn aweso… | /r/MGTOW | 23/07/18 11:49 AM |
| 6 | Bill Gates Supporting more Education for girls/women. The plot twist is the lack of educational opportunities in 3rd World countries affects boys just as much as girls. The issue is women having 10 kids by their 18th birthday,Ever wonder why in poor countries everyone prefers having a son or if they can only afford to send one child to school they send a son? It isn't patriarchy or backward thinking. They always say the same thing across the world, a son will look after his siblings and his parents when he gets a job and steady income, a daughter will generally not. Such a choice isn't sexist, it is pragmatic in a situation where education comes at a great cost and families cannot rely on welfare to look after them. | /r/MGTOW | 12/07/18 06:24 PM |
| 4 | "Vulnerable Victims" are routinely prosecuted -- and jailed -- for lying about rape in the UK.A dictator who won a democratic election and stopped a family dynasty keeping a hold of the political system? I guess my grasp of the Queen's English isn't as good as I thought coz that dictators weren't democratic. | /r/MGTOW | 30/06/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Happy Friday fellow brothers. Here's another double standardThe soy is strong with that one | /r/MGTOW | 25/06/18 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Happy Friday fellow brothers. Here's another double standardDude, this american tourist said she wanted my BBC minutes after meeting me and my black ass was like 'who still watches BBC? Russia Today is a much more interesting news channel, though BBC has nice production values', then she explained what she meant... Facepalm, no thanks.... | /r/MGTOW | 25/06/18 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Happy Friday fellow brothers. Here's another double standardZimbabwe isn't tiny, there is a single farm in Zimbabwe that is bigger than Belgium. It's about 2 times bigger than the United Kingdom in area. And population wise, it's got about 16 million people, so one and half times the population of Sweden/ Portugal, again not exactly tiny. There is actually no good explanation for which countries have the highest AIDS rate, a scary fact nobody likes to discuss. The countries with the highest infection rate also top the charts in condom use, do not have hi… | /r/MGTOW | 25/06/18 08:20 PM |
| 15 | Happy Friday fellow brothers. Here's another double standardZimbabwe, top 5 AIDS infection rate in the world but still a female sex tourist spot | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 08:22 PM |
| 26 | Happy Friday fellow brothers. Here's another double standardI'm from Africa so every time I see that pic I think skanky 'travel the world', poor hygiene, hemp skirt, bang random sketchy locals in every country you backpack through and think AIDS only happens to black people whilst 'exploring' niggas in the countries with the highest infection rates in the world... There are so many of those types coming over its scary... And they'll jump on any of us, whichever local is nearest..... nastiness | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 06:38 PM |
| 1 | 'Just because I'm a porn star, I don't want to be raped': adult film industry awaits its #MeToo moment as actresses struggle to be believedSo, just to be clear, when she asked them to stop, they stopped shooting and held up a production they paid her for and one that involved activities that are 'standard' for hardcore porn, which she has been shooting for ages and consented to. Then they resumed shooting, presumably because she was now okay to go forward seeing as they were gentlemanly enough to stop when asked to. Then she said on camera that she had fun but wouldn't do it again... And this makes them rapists? Also, we all have j… | /r/MGTOW | 22/06/18 06:15 PM |
| 2 | When companies are too afraid of #metoo...So, what you're saying is the set of the new season of Black Mirror has become like an episode of Black Mirror? I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry it's so bad. | /r/MGTOW | 15/06/18 04:55 PM |
| 1 | This 90 year old Youtuber, used to make advice videos, unfortunately he passed away last month, this one had me dyingF | /r/MGTOW | 24/05/18 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else seen this shirt in public? Pretty popular, and stupidUmmm that shirt is very offensive and bro phobic. | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/18 10:16 AM |
| 3 | TFW reading 'The Manipulated Man' for the first time.For me, the manipulated man is the ultimate handbook, short, but it packs a mighty punch on each every page and it timeless. It caused some deep self reflection and made me question things I had always taken for granted. I would recommend "Is there anything good about men", by Roy F. Baumeister as a follow up. He is a evolutionary psychologist who was looking at the differences in male and female nature, what the possible causes are and how easily they can be misunderstood. It makes a very compe… | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/18 08:39 AM |
| 3 | Let's face it woman's fantasies are trash.I'm with you there bruv. My biggest peeve with most of what claims to be the red pill is after understanding that women want something ridiculous, they decide to become or at least pretend to be it. There is no power in becoming the female fantasy, true power and freedom is in being yourself and doing what you want to do in total disregard for female approval. I don't know any dudes into that choking damn near rape type sex but I know a lot of chicks who are and all I can think if is 1) these ho… | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/18 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Patrice O'Neal teaches women what we REALLY wantPatrice was a damn prophet sent from the future to guide us all. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/18 09:04 PM |
| 5 | In The Words of Kanye WestThe ultimate prenup, my grandma will off you like she did my momma so you might think you're gangsta but once you get into the royals, no one can hear you scream and you can never leave. | /r/MGTOW | 26/03/18 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do only a few countries have a sex offender registry?Perhaps because of the dangerous combination of the puritanical streak in those countries, their bizarre view that sex crimes are magically worse than other crimes (who else would think rape is worse than murder WTF?) and their knee jerk impulse to save the women like nice little feminists. That combination is rare as in most countries that are ridiculously puritanical, there is no feminist idea that the state should defend women in particular, they rely on religious and traditional leaders to d… | /r/MGTOW | 26/03/18 09:53 AM |
| 3 | Other than TRP theory, why do so many women want much less sex after marriage?In my personal experience the most beautiful women I have known have also been the nicest. When you're gorgeous all your life and everyone treats you great, you treat everyone great too. You have no hangups, no ego, usually can't tell you're gorgeous or that most girls secretly hate your for it and that many men are intimidated by you. I think ugly people tend to have terrible personalities. If all your life people treated you like shit because of how you looked, would you be all cuddles and sun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Other than TRP theory, why do so many women want much less sex after marriage?I don't think it is that simple though. Most men and women have two different approaches to how to find a long term mate and I don't think the is any proof that the female approach is provably inherently better. You can marry as a calculation but don't expect to be swept of your feet and live in romantic bliss, there is a trade off. Women may look for longer term benefits in a relationship but does that make them better or happier than men? Not when 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Other than TRP theory, why do so many women want much less sex after marriage?Isn't that simply because wealthier people, more powerful people are perceived as more good looking than perfectly identical lower status men? For men in particular, notions of attractiveness are not as a simple binary and weave in things like apparent wealth and status, how well they dress, what car they drive, if they carry themselves like they're effortlessly confident etc, all things that change how attractive they are deemed, thus making the exact same physical features score differently on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/18 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex means your standards are too low.The main problem I have with this argument is you have decided that all men want the same thing and it is what you want them to want. I am not looking for 'mother of my kids' material because I choose not to have kids. I am not looking for a long term relationship because I don't want marriage or kids and 1) most women in spite of that they say initially are likely to try to flip an LTR into marriage or a kid 2) it is better for both of us if they go off and find someone who has a chance of want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Movies where the male lead spins plates, doesn't commit, and is portrayed positively? (besides James Bond)Might be worth looking at how this has changed over the years. How many of these examples are from the 80s, 90s and maybe early 2000s? Would those shows/movies be made today with the same characters being portrayed the same way or would they in the current age be seen as rapey, troubled, miserable people who are either bad men or deep down hate being players and feel empty inside? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 10:44 AM |
| 1 | Bechdel test for men: any movie where a female character saves a man's life?If I may be so bold as to propose an alternative test. The issue I have with your proposed test is it is too general and doesn't properly address what I think you are trying to get at, which is that men sacrifice themselves, but themselves under great danger, inconvenience themselves, spend years of their life or much of their fortune all to help a female character who does nothing whatsoever to justify this and must be valued just for existing. This trope is found in romantic comedies, action m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 10:34 AM |
| 9 | Other than TRP theory, why do so many women want much less sex after marriage?I think it is pretty simple. Guys try to marry one of the women they are most attracted to and want to keep having sex with. They consider other qualities but that is one the most important attributes for them and they are less likely to compromise on attraction than on almost any other quality. Women consider many qualities for long term relationships and marriage. The longer term the relationship, the more they push attraction needs down and replace them with thins like wealth/earning potentia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 10:23 AM |
| 1 | The "comfort theory" of genderI'm amazed that you genuinely think this and aren't taking the piss. Men are less tolerant of physical discomfort? Hmm, lets think about what could uncomfortable.... Fighting in the jungles with hardly any food? Most soldiers are men. Working oil rigs, coal mines etc, men. Homelessness, mostly men. The list goes on. You bring up uncomfortable clothing as though women do not have comfortable options and are being forced to wear uncomfortable stuff. They're not. As Esther Villar put it, a man is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/18 12:34 PM |
| 5 | Why do men do this? Gets me every time.Perhaps most people get married for the same reason most people raised in a religion follow it. No deep, well thought out reason for it, just an intellectual laziness and a fear of having to figure out a meaning for your life. It is so much easier to think your life revolves around some kid or your marriage and not need to think any bigger than that, not have to question anything. MGTOW leads you into amateur evolutionary psychology, biology, sociology, questioning economic systems and political… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/17 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Women are incapable of logical thinking.In any debate, the instant someone says they 'feel' a measurable, objective fact that is either true or false, I know they are completely incapable of basic logic and there is no point discussing with them. And by someone I mean women, almost always women though some idiot guys make the same mistake too. | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/17 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Many of us are learning that decency and good have no bearing on our ability to attract a mate and in some cases may be detrimental - should this be a concern to individuals and society?FYI the exact same nonsense justifications have been made for male and female circumcision. Perhaps you have only been exposed to a small subset of them because the press on FGM is sensationalist whilst the press focuses on justification when it is males being mutilated. There is also the very real empathy gap, a tendency to feel more empathy for females than for boys and especially men. Circumcision has been a tool to reduce male sexual pleasure and stop masturbation for centuries, especially i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/17 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Many of us are learning that decency and good have no bearing on our ability to attract a mate and in some cases may be detrimental - should this be a concern to individuals and society?Can you imagine for a moment someone arguing that FGM doesn't really affect a girl's ability to enjoy sex. You would be screaming from the rooftops that it is not relevant how much it affects the ability to enjoy sex, it is the savage mutilation of a child. For all your claims of compassion, you decide to use your head to make up ridiculous justifications instead of using your heart to feel for children being cut up. If the children are boys that is, if they are girls, you show real compassion. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/17 08:40 PM |
| 1 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.You assume I haven't been around many cultures, with nothing to base that assumption on. You conclude that I have to have met most women to make any broad generalizations about them. Seeing as there are 4 billion females, lets say 2 billion of them are adults, you really think I have to have met more than a billion of them to make a general assesment? There is this thing called sampling, you have a big enough sample size of a broad enough cross section of the population and you can make generall… | /r/MGTOW | 08/10/17 08:47 PM |
| 1 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.This will come as some surprise but I don't just accept myself, I actually think I am pretty damn awesome. I have an interest in many things and I like to think and figure out potential causes behind things and if there are alternative ways of achieving people's objective that are more efficient, effective and ethical. There are aspects of male behaviour that I find curious and worthy of study, as there are of female behaviour. If anything I would argue I see women as people too. People respond … | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 08:22 PM |
| 9 | Stop redefining MGTOWDon't be so quick to judge Africa and fundamentalist countries. People forget that in traditionalist societies, men have power but only so they can use it to serve women and children. A LOT can be said on the subject, like how in Islam, you should hand over your entire salary to your wife as she runs the household... She may give you some of it for you to use on yourself but it is at her discretion. Her earnings are not allowed to be spent on the family's needs, that is your job. Any income she … | /r/MGTOW | 07/10/17 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Would you go for a fat woman who has attractive features underneath and was losing weight?If you dig fat girls sure. But dating someone you're not attracted to is a terrible thing to do to yourself and to them. It doesn't make you a nice person, you should step aside so she can find the chubby chaser who will dig her they way she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 07:39 PM |
| -1 | New Article: More men say they’re happier with their marriages than women do, because men tend to get more out of being married than womenI don't think women can't love though. I think it is most men who cannot love. They take seriously what their opponents know is a game and so they always lose. In the game of love, whoever cares most loses and nobody cares as much as the guy who thinks his purpose in life is serving a childish woman and her children. Little does he know in all matters women may play the childish fool but in matters of love, they are mostly skilled, professional players of the game who have been groomed for being… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/17 06:25 PM |
| 3 | New Article: More men say they’re happier with their marriages than women do, because men tend to get more out of being married than womenJust putting this out there, there were lots of slaves fighting to defend the system and stay with their 'loving' masters. It often takes a taste of freedom to wake people out of their stupor and make them realize they don't have to accept things as they are. There were a lot of white folk agitating and freeing slaves who were too broken to free themselves. Not all slaves mind you, many were trapped in body but free enough in mind and spirit to fight to be free, but a huge chunk of slaves accept… | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/17 06:19 PM |
| 1 | It's not Wall Wednesday, but....i was wondering the same thing. Someone should do an x-ray cross section for science.... | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/17 05:58 PM |
| 1 | It's not Wall Wednesday, but....Gov, she did not hit the wall, the wall knocked her down and stomped her, damn! | /r/MGTOW | 02/10/17 05:55 PM |
| 1 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.My argument is not that evo psyh is wrong. Merely that we cannot rule out other causes for behaviour and we should take it with a pinch of salt. We cannot claim the level of confidence in it that so many do and use it as a matter of fact explanation when it is often only one of several factors affecting behaviour and we cant control for all the other factors. There is a limit to how right we can reasonably think it to be and yet it is bandied about as 100% fact very often. | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 08:57 PM |
| 1 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.Perhaps this is because we are looking at women in different countries and cultures, maybe even of different ages but I am seeing girls bang a lot of randos. Women in my country have genital herpes at twice the rate they have cold sores (50% to 25%). Ie they have something you catch from unprotected sex and double the rate of something you catch from kissing. They kiss boyfriends and the fuck LOTS of randos without kissing. Notice the trend of friends with benefits? These girls don't have hot gu… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 08:18 PM |
| 1 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.Have you read the WEIRD People paper? It is by an economist who realised whilst running game theory experiments in rural Latin America that people behaved the exact opposite of how they did in big cities. In a small community, you maximise how much society owes you because in small communities, obligations are settled and you rely on your society as your safety net. Turns out much of what has been assumed about human behaviour applies to White Educated Industrialized Rich Democratic people. All … | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Women Initiate Divorce Much More Than Men, Here's WhyWow, you really think men only care about their children if they are having sex with their mother? WTF? Ever think that maybe men only have access to their kids when they are having sex with their mother? That otherwise the mother reduces/stops access or the new girlfriend/wife doesn't want them spending as much time with the kids from the old relationship? Geez, how do you all these men when you think they are so inhuman as to lack affection for their own spawn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Women Initiate Divorce Much More Than Men, Here's WhyI would argue not only are your experiences anecdotal, they are far from the norm. if you are kind of woman who gets married five times and are judging men by the kind of men who either themselves have been married numerous times or would marry someone who has been divorced four times already, you are looking at a sample that deviates very far from the mean. You and the men you married are in no way a stand-in for most people and your anecdotal evidence is even more dubious than most people's as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Women Initiate Divorce Much More Than Men, Here's WhyHmm, I wonder if the masses of fathers campaigning to get to see their kids, the suicides of fathers cut off from their children, the activists dressing up as superheroes fighting for custody and the very many men whose fear of losing their kids keeps them in abusive relationships are a figment of our collective imaginations? The BP chaps seem insistent on a worldview where men are somehow unfeeling creatures who cannot love their children as much and wonderful amazing women can. There is no evi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Women Initiate Divorce Much More Than Men, Here's WhyTalk is cheap. I find it provides a very dubious evidentiary basis, especially when saying you love your kids is also a way of projecting that you are a lovely person. Even the most abusive mothers can make that verbal claim. Women are not magically nicer and more loving of children, how can they be when they abuse children at a higher rate than men do? They are people, selfish people who act in their own interests like anyone else. if you had a child and post-divorce the child guaranteed a payc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 05:11 PM |
| 3 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.And the more unattractive they become, the more they reach for crazier and crazier allegations of guys wanting them but not being upfront about it. I especially love when women in their late thirties to early fifties tell the stories about young guys hitting on them and not believing they were old enough to be their mothers. Never any witnesses though strangely. And these stories always start then their daughters are taking male attention they think they are entitled to. | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 04:59 PM |
| 13 | She will never change.If she is Catholic, it isn't a real marriage until it is consummated. If she won't have sex with you, you get an instant annulment and it is like it never happened in the eyes of the church | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 03:32 PM |
| 6 | I postulate that most women have an inflated sense of their self-worth, that it is perfectly natural for them to see themselves that way and that it is also why so many of them have low self-esteem, post a million selfies and always crave attention even from people they claim to be better than.There are a lot of things about evolutionary psychology that I deem a tad dubious. Unfortunately, it is one of those fields where you can't actually test any of the claims as we do not have data on evolutionary timescales and cannot factor out environmental and cultural factors. The idea that women are programmed to be selective for example is one I have to question looking at the level of no sense THOT behaviour around me. It is a great theory but it now seems to be conflicting with e sexual be… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/17 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?That's an interesting way of looking at it. And it makes a lot of sense. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 01:11 PM |
| 3 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?'Self improvement' that starts with techniques and not with self knowledge can only lead to self destruction. If you don't understand yourself and work on your psyche and mentality, you work on your body/career for the wrong reasons and get nasty results. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 01:20 AM |
| 5 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?Exactly, our big brains are actually or most useful evolutionary advantage and we supposed to just ignore them and do dumb shit because sex? We cannot shut off sexual impulses but we can manage them intelligently to minimize their cost. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 01:07 AM |
| 3 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?Aren't these guys fighting biology though? I mean we know women's hormones change when they are in a long term relationship, their sex drive goes down and only spikes when they are ovulating and attracted to men other than their spouse. An RP long term relationship is willfully throwing the dice when you know that nature says one in ten kids won't be yours and I'm sure that figure has gone up quite a bit this generation. Her body wants her to get pregnant by some other guy and nothing you do can… | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 01:04 AM |
| 16 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?Samuel L Jackson in Django Unchained, the slave who loves being 'better' than all the other slaves so much he fights to keep the broken system in place. I cannot be alpha because I have no desire to pull anyone down, to dominate any other men or be better than them. I just wanna do my own thing. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.The strong is only enslaved by the weak if he chooses it. As Tolstoy said to Ghandi, a few hundred thousand British cannot enslave hundreds of millions of Indians, rather it is the Indians who enslave themselves through the British. You can't be disposable if you don't lay the game and actually value yourself. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 12:52 AM |
| 3 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.Ever heard the saying "happy wife equals happy life" or some such variant? It seems to me that male adulthood is defined as being about servitude to a wife, children and a boss who can do what they want to you because you have mouths to feed and can't quit to follow your passion. Which of the 'masculine' characteristics is purely for your benefit? Masculinity as defined by all our societies is about serving them, not you. | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/17 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.You imply something is obvious then when pressed can't name the 'obvious' thing.... Curious. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.I don't see one. And yet that definition of masculinity seems to be the one in general use. It isn't stated as bluntly but that is what 'be a man', 'man up', and 'grow up' seem to mean for men, be a willing slave, exploited in the home and at the workplace and maybe even risk your physical safety for others but never do what is good for only you. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 11:17 PM |
| 3 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.That is how I look at things and how I wish more men would look at things, but I am critiquing the term as it is used and meant in common parlance. Even if you look up masculine, all the qualities you will find listed as masculine are there because of how useful they are to others. Mainstream society does not see you as a complete man if you acquire only for yourself, you are considered to be some kind of pathological. And I am questioning the idea of society defined masculinity as it is a harmf… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 10:56 PM |
| 8 | Is the red pill even more blue than the blue pill?But if RP is about learning what women want and becoming it, isn't it females manipulating RP men and not RP men manipulating women? If this were truly RP men manipulating women, wouldn't they manipulate women into liking guys who are short, broke and out of shape? I don't see how changing yourself to be exactly what you have deduced women want is you manipulating them. if anything, you are giving them the option to have exactly what they want and accept no responsibility for it, they get to bla… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 10:51 PM |
| 5 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.Does it strike you as odd when people respond with "you're thinking too much"? Seriously? Thinking got us out of the caves and gave us high speed internet and indoor plumbing. Anytime I hear that line, I know they're trying to defend the indefensible and would rather escape the debate without explaining themselves. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.I'm in decent shape, I can walk for hours. But I don't lift, I'm not muscular, I'm not sporting the bulked up look that people are going crazy for these days. Being out of shape would be bad for my health but I have no need to be more fit than my health requires. Not in a world where I work from a keyboard, there are no beasts to fight off and supplements and steroids have nasty side effects. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 10:12 PM |
| 0 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.I would appreciate it if you did. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.Heck, that level of muscle is pretty bad for your long term health. Thanks to this 'lift bro' trend, men are having heart attacks in their mid thirties, but only super fit, 'built' men, not ordinary guys like me. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 09:53 PM |
| 0 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.And what are female traits? | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 09:52 PM |
| 8 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.And the well broken slave scrams and fights harder to protect slavery than even his master does. How many men take pride in their exploitation by others and consider putting yourself first a shameful act? They gleefully tell you how much meaning it gives them that everything they do is for their wife and children even as they speak in muttered tones of everything they gave up on. | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Why I think being masculine has no value to me.I would argue that as a holder of the Y chromosome and a penis, I am a man and by definition every thing I do should be 'of man', a.k.a. masculine. The fact that the term singles out attributes that are beneficial to other parties is a curious and dare I say dubious state of affairs which must be questioned, especially in a world where questioning masculinity has been used as a shaming tactic to lure men into self sacrifice and exploitation for hundreds of years. What pray tell are feminine virt… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/17 09:36 PM |
| 7 | Why Young Women on Tinder Have 'No Hook-Ups' in Their BiosIn the words of the rapper, poet and philosopher, The Notorious B.I.G., "Riffin, she tryin' to be at work by 8 This must mean she ain't tryin' to wait Conversate, sex on the first date, I state You know what you do to me She starts off, "well I don't usually" Then I, whipped it out, rubber no doubt" Yep, she set it up, she wants it to go down fast but she claims she doesn't usually do this bla bla bla. The usual projection of responsibility for her actions to him. If she doesn't usually do this … | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/17 12:10 PM |
| 5 | State of today's womenFrom the headline, I thought it would be about women with multiple PHDsor something. The Natasha chick is an undergrad, she doesn't even have her first degree and she thinks guys are intimidated wtf? Even the other two, one is a masters student and we can only assume the other's two degrees mean she has a masters too. If they had actually learnt anything they would know degrees up to masters level don't require any new ideas or much critical thinking, they are just regurgitating what they have b… | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/17 12:03 PM |
| 29 | State of today's womenFrom the headline, I thought it would be about women with multiple PHDsor something. The Natasha chick is an undergrad, she doesn't even have her first degree and she thinks guys are intimidated wtf? Even the other two, one is a masters student and we can only assume the other's two degrees mean she has a masters too. If they had actually learnt anything they would know degrees up to masters level don't require any new ideas or much critical thinking, they are just regurgitating what they have b… | /r/MGTOW | 26/09/17 12:03 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man interesting and what makes a woman interesting?It is entirely possible that all the women I have gotten to know and all their friends are anomalies. That's a risk with anecdotal evidence. It could also be cultural. The women I have known from Europe have all appeared to bucked that trend, whilst local and American women have mostly reinforced it. This could also be flawed sampling given that most of these European women traveled here with some 'save the starving Africans' type purpose and thus by default think of something outside themselves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/17 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Nude italian SJW tries to prove that all immigrants are good...True, but too much peace can be a dangerous thing if it means people forget how to look out for themselves and have unrealistic, cuddly expectations of people, animals, and environments. | /r/MGTOW | 05/09/17 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Nude italian SJW tries to prove that all immigrants are good...Dude, it's a funny portmanteau. And not unjust given the number rapes, sexual assaults, and murders that have been carried out by asylum seekers. | /r/MGTOW | 05/09/17 09:18 AM |
| 1 | What makes a man interesting and what makes a woman interesting?I like to ask myself, "How interesting would this be if anyone else said it?". This may seem silly at first, but you would be amazed how much vapid nonsense passes as engaging and interesting just because of the vessel it is delivered in. Asking that question takes away the advantage attractive people have and makes you judge them by the content of their words and character, and very few are left seeming interesting. As for the gender difference, I would argue most people are ordinary and boring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 04:51 PM |
| 12 | Nude italian SJW tries to prove that all immigrants are good...Imagine how shitty it feels to throw yourself at rapefugees and be treated as more of a spectacle than a naughty treat. This woman's narcissism overrides her sense of danger. But then again when you are never responsible for anything, you have nothing to fear, nothing is ever your fault and you can revel in victimhood. Except. a lot of these rape victims get killed in the process. Side note; why does every 'penniless' refugee who needs help have a fucking smartphone to record all this shit on? | /r/MGTOW | 04/09/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | "Women who want a man just to provide an expensive lifestyle" Does this actually happen as often as redpill thinks?I find it curious that people seem to only look at one side of the equation on this matter. If you wanted to know if women were with money for the money, yes you could look at their relative incomes but that would only tell you part of the story. Do couples who earn roughly equivalent amounts spend/control the spending equally? Well, most stats range from 75% to 85% of all consumer wealth and spending being controlled by women. Aside from the stats, there are lots of anecdotal examples everywher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Is NAWALT a misunderstanding of AWALT?I am not arguing that every single woman exhibits every single exploitative behaviour in all situations but that the numbers add up to it being highly likely that you will at some point in your life, in at least one of your relationships face these behaviours. Thus it is prudent to acknowledge the probability of exploitation and protect yourself accordingly. This isn't to say you should never have any relationships of any sort with women, MGTOW isn't about telling you what you do, it is about ar… | /r/MGTOW | 27/08/17 08:01 PM |
| 6 | MGTOW vs Feminism taught me a lesson on marriageI don't see how having someone else obligated to pay my stuff even after we divorce or face jail would be bad for me if I were a woman. I don't see how having the option to work part time or not at all would be bad for me. Or how earning less than half of the money but being responsible for 75% of consumer spending would be bad for me. Just because someone cries doesn't mean they're hurt, some people have mastered the art of making their domination look like supplication and your exploitation lo… | /r/MGTOW | 27/08/17 12:00 PM |
| 1 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/5-times-shouldnt-approach-women-hesaid/ http://pantslessbear.com/2015/08/25/why-you-should-never-approach-women-at-the-gym/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/17 09:09 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Off the top of my head, I can think of two girls who would prefer "I'd poke your pink" as an unironic declaration of sexual attraction, as a first message and would reply that whilst ignoring 'hi' or anything that doesn't clearly show sexual attraction. I know a few more who think it was some ironic flirting and would go along with it, replying with over the top flirtation. The adoption one I know one girl who would for sure jump at that as she primarily seeks someone to adopt with in a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 12:43 AM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Just to be clear, I did not say all women, I didn't even say most. I said many. i did not defend the guys reacting to rejection like crybabies and I think they poison the waters for everyone and it may perhaps be a good idea to have a warning sticker on their profiles on dating sites after several reports of behaviour. But you know what also poisons the waters? Publicly shaming and sharing the private messages of men who don't know what you want to hear. Some people like sexual messages, some do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 12:30 AM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I linked shared screenshots above, and whilst some were temper tantrums upon rejection, the majority were not. In fact most were one way, opening messages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 12:04 AM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Except people carry out mating behaviours that they think will be successful, and since success is determined by the opposite sex's choice, man carry out behaviours they think will make women want them as mates. You see aggression because there are many women who want that and therefore many men have adapted to show that. If all women woke up tomorrow and only wanted men who spoke to them in iambic verse, every gangsta dude and every goth rocker would be speaking like Shakespear soon enough. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:58 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I don't think maleness is 'biologically superior', I don't even know what that means. If you mean men tend to be the very best at almost everything, yeah, sure, but they also tend to be the very worst at everything. Men have a wider bell curve, so you can claim they are better or worse and have evidence to back your bias if you ignore one end of the bell curve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:53 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I am talking about one specific thing that many, not all women do and very few, if any men do. I would not judge men or women on a single metric, neither would I make blanket normative judgements on a gender as there is a lot of variance within it and overlap with the other gender. Men and women are people, people who I think are different, but different doesn't mean objectively better or worse, just some are fucked up in one way and the others are fucked up in another way. If you choose to only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:49 PM |
| 0 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I am totally against laughing at and shaming of people for asking you out, however awkwardly, especially not posting it publicly. The point I am making is this specific behaviour, laughing awkward pickups seems to be predominantly displayed by women, though if I were totally accurate, at least from what I have observed in person, it is almost always low/mid status women. If there is evidence of lots of men shaming women for the crime of being into them whilst awkward instead of turning them down… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:46 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Might I ask out of curiosity how old you are and if you went to/are at a college, especially a liberal arts one and which area you are from (big city/small town, conservative/liberal, culturally homogenous/multicultural). I ask because these factors seem to me to be the biggest determinants of how complicated people's attempts at dating experiences are becoming and why it getting to such extremes that we are ending up with such large numbers of men and women just withdrawing from it altogether. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:35 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?However those are all personal and individual problems that one solves though self improvement. Sounds lot to me after we were diagnosed with our personal and individual problems for not wanting to date people who start as friends, we were told the solution is self-improvement. Like I said, your words are right there to be quoted back at you. My panties are not in a bunch. I am pointing out the ridiculousness of your statement and am disappointed by a complete failure to differentiate between ob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:30 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?I interact with wide array of very different people. What would be 'correct' flirting to my more traditional friends would be considered boring and an instant turn off by my wilder friends. This idea of monolithic human behaviour, where there is a single correct way to approach people or flirt with them is completely unrealistic. The freaky girls I know think a guy opening with anything that doesn't show what he wants to do them isn't man enough for them but I also know girls that think their id… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 11:24 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Actually, it is more a result of Slavoj Zizek lecture where he touches on the issue, the discussion in the other thread reminded me of it and I thought, why not get some perspectives on it. Zizek can go a little overboard so it is interesting when he thinks the cultural left has gone too far and must be reigned in, in particular with regards to political correctness and over sensitivity on issues like harassment leading to a situation where normal human interaction is damn near impossible, for e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 10:40 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Dude, how did I put words in your mouth when I quoted your exact statement. I'm sorry that you guys are letting yourself be ruled by fear, mistrust, and a general lack of confidence. However those are all personal and individual problems that one solves though self improvement. You explicitly said I and the women and mentioned are letting ourselves be ruled by fear, mistrust and lack of confidence and we can solve this through self improvement. And this was in response to the line you yourself q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 10:34 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?I confess my sample size for this analysis is mostly those who went through college after post structuralism had spread through academia, so mostly people 35 and below, 40 at a stretch. These are people confused by having conflicting mores, no clear behavioural guidelines and meshing multiple cultural influences each with their own perspectives on dating, leading to a lot of confusion and unintentional harm as little things are blown out of proportion and they all try to find a single way to dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 10:27 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Except saying nobody should do something that most women find invasive ignore the some women who prefer it. The idea that there is a kosher way to proposition all women is a fallacy because people are different and they like different things and find different things creepy. I know a lot of women who think if you aren't quick to show your intentions then you are being sly and creepy, women who think a cold approach shows confidence and makes them feel alluring enough to take a risk for. Women wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 10:18 PM |
| 1 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?I'm sorry that you guys are letting yourself be ruled by fear, mistrust, and a general lack of confidence. However those are all personal and individual problems that one solves though self improvement. So people who have different perspectives from you aren't different, they need to improve themselves? Why is it so hard for you to accept that some people don't want what you want, don't see things the way you do and your position that people should be friends first a personal one, not a universa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 10:04 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Apologies for citing subreddits and online sources, much as they are echo chambers, they seem a more verifiable source than anecdotal experience. Also the size of the echo chambers says a lot. Perhaps I am wrong in perceiving TwoX/Tumblr/BP/the vast majority of OkCupid profiles belonging to people in major cities especially San Fran/Cali as a significant proportion of westerners. I pointed out I was talking about the left leaning west, the Macron, Bernie, Trudeau and Corbinite west. Maybe too mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 09:03 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Except guys don't owe it to women to ask them out and take any associated risks. You can try to shame them into it but lots of people are realizing it is a broken system that is leading to suboptimal results for both men and women. Insults are not a logical argument and your failure to present one says a lot. Instead, you appeal to some archaic white feathering of people who evaluate the risks of an action and question if it could be done safer and more efficiently for everyone as cowards. Appea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:38 PM |
| 1 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Whilst I acknowledge the validity of your personal experiences and commend your exes for being bold (I wish more women would), I think on balance yours is an atypical experience and most women will not make the first move or worse still, some will 'play' at hinting interest then disinterest, then interest, to evaluate the guy or whatever. It is this majority of women that do not hit on men that I am referring to here. Body language doesn't have a clear codified structure, a glance can mean a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:33 PM |
| 4 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?There are tons of articles online about how it is harassment to approach a woman at work or a woman reading a book, or a woman sitting alone in a cafe etc. There are clearly lots of women who do think approaching them when they do not want to be approached is harassment but do not magically broadcast their willingness to be approached and so guys have to guess and thus harass. A lot of the writers of such fluff and a lot of the girls I know who take that approach do eventually cry about nobody a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:22 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Except you only know her feelings after you take a risk. Unless she hits on you first, which is rare, you are taking a risk. You can mitigate the risk of course by circling the subject and hiding behind innuendo and flirtation that gives you plausible deniability. I imagine a big part of hookup culture is guys just backing away from bearing all the emotional risk of asking girls out. They just keep things vague and play along with whatever girls want at the time but never make clear declarations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:15 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?In a lot of companies, if you are dating, it is frowned upon, if you married it is celebrated, but for you to initiate is potentially career ending. How many sexual harassment stories involve the office Christmas party, an out of town assignment or after work drinks? Because it isn't on company time or on company premises doesn't make it any less wrong if a clumsy advance is turned down. And once that has happened, how much of future interaction is seen through the lens of the rejection? How muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:04 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?I present 'the friendzone', aka, the harassment of being someone's friend first then trying to turn it into a relationship. There are whole subreddits about how you should never be friends with someone first and should express romantic interest up front because it is 'creepy' to think someone was 'pretending to be your friend just to get you into a relationships'. Whichever way you go about it, talking to strangers, meeting through work, being friends first, people have different perspectives on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 07:56 PM |
| 7 | Is it just me or do only women ridicule and publicly shame failed suitors?Yeah, in my experience it has always been the women around me who were low status, even if they were kinda attractive, they were never properly hot and they were always struggling to compete with other girls. The really gorgeous girls were always really nice and friendly, to girls, to guys, to everyone. If a guy they weren't into tried to hit on them, they would always be discrete and civil and most people in the room wouldn't even notice it happened. This one supermodel would always do a tequil… | /r/MGTOW | 10/08/17 07:43 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?But sending sexually explicit requests or inappropriate ones to online strangers and then getting butt hurt and retaliating when they decline is far different. Don't you think? I gave online examples because at least they're on anecdotal.All the approaching women stuff I have seen in purely anecdotal, but I spend the bulk of my time with women and I have seen first-hand countless situations where they have publicly shamed a guy for anything from greeting them to just approaching the table we wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 07:36 PM |
| 3 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Harassment should be a pattern of behaviour. If it were, then only those who continued to push someone who had clearly expressed no interest could possibly be accused ot harassment. That would perfectly reasonable. Unfortunately, things are a little more complicated. This post came as a result of a discussion wherein many women and even some blue pill guys are referring to a single, poorly phrased or badly thought out opening message as harassment. In a set of example where the men who sent mess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 07:26 PM |
| 2 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?In the UK, a third of all relationships start at work. But, many companies have workplace harassment regulations that basically make it illegal to ask each other out, some make it legal if it is mutual but like I argue above until there is a response, it is strictly speaking harassment as per many HR policies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | In the west, do all relationships start with harassment and are all men harassers until a woman absolves their sin?Thanks for your response. I see a lot of confusion over how people should interact and a lot of grey areas that lead to trouble for everyone involved. The subway groper and downblouse guy are clearly fucked up people and it should be easy to single them out as harassing you. But as you said, the ones who know were individually not harassing you feel harassing as part of an overall experience. Now comes the confusion, when a guy saying hi can feel like harassment, what does it mean when you say y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 07:05 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Oppression olympics again. Appealing to my instinct to defend people and be against injustice isn't a rational argument against the point I made. Revenge porn is an entirely separate matter from this and I do not see what bringing it up bring to the discussion. Also maybe lets be grown ups and realize our actions have consequences. The person who leaks your nudes is an asshole but why are y'all so obsessed with taking nudes in the first place? Either stop taking them or accept they will eventual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?nah, there are some generally universal good conversation starters. this isn't it. it's not horrible or offensive, but it's like discussing marriage plans on the first date; it's way too forward, and a no-no. and whether i like it or not, the recipient did not so maybe the guy should try learning a thing or two. A lot of your arguments seem to stem from you knowing what all men and women should say and the only ways in which they should interact. People are diverse and want different things. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 06:45 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Lots of married women on dating sites explicitly looking for sex, sometimes very graphic in their description of what they want and sometimes seeking someone to join them and their husband. You can't speak for all women, there are some who like that therefore in that circle it is a winning strategy and guys messaging those women about being friends would be rejected, some even state clearly on their profile, no friends, no relationships. Many women's profiles explicitly state how many kids they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 05:55 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?In the context of someone who can physically overpower you, escalating the situation by humiliating and angering him publicly is unlikely to lead to anything by an escalation, maybe not a sexual one but physically violent one, why go there? Also, in the online examples, I have linked, the majority are not guys refusing to take no for an answer, in most, the guy being ridiculed sent one message, that is all. Someone being a dick about you not being into him is fair game, someone who has a lame op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 05:27 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Apologies if the post wasn't clear but I was speaking about online and in-person situations, it's just that with in-person situations, one finds oneself having to rely on anecdotal evidence which as we all know can be tricky. Online exchanges are easier to find evidence of and at a large enough scale as to build a coherent idea of what behavioural patterns there are. You have a valid point about online communities sharing hilarious PMs (I loved bash.org) but I think there is a difference between… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 05:22 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I think to find fat women funny for insisting on dating fit guys is an exercise in humour, there is an impersonal irony there that is funny regardless of which fat/skinny people are involved. It is making fun of someone's hypocrisy. On the other hand, to ridicule someone for opening up to you and putting themselves out there is a little different. You are making fun of them having the human desire for affection that we all do, or for being what you think is awkward/lame/not funny, all of which a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 05:01 PM |
| 3 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Revenge porn is far rarer than online ridicule and is perpetuated but a tiny proportion of the population. So because a small group of people engage in a deplorable act, and wholly unrelated act is less stupid? This isn't about oppression olympics, it is about a specific issue which should addressed with rational arguments and not appeals to 'woe are women'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:52 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Except we keep avoiding dealing with the fact that nobody has defined harassment. Most women won't approach guys and expect them to approach them. Most women are not upfront about what they want and play coy/hard to get at least for a while when they are actually interested. This annoys me personally to no end and I do not take no as anything other than no, no matter how many times it leads to furious confrontations about me not being serious because I didn't keep chasing. You as a woman may not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:43 PM |
| 0 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?It may sound like I am splitting hairs here but I don't think laughing at a post where someone spells out ridiculous requirements (which is a funny thing in and of itself) is quite the same as laughing at someone for approaching you. One is seeing a humour in a situation where no vulnerability has been displayed, whilst the other is seeing humour in someone daring to find someone else attractive. Equivalence would have to be the 'hot' guys posting chats making fun of 'ugly' or whatever girls who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:29 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?It is a trick question because one has a clear definition and the other doesn't. There is no standard for what is clearly and universally harassing/inappropriate/annoying, it is a sliding scale along which lie many things that some would consider terrible and others would consider just the thing for them. Revenge porn is a clear concept and a nasty thing to be doing. Comparing something that exists as a messy spectrum that affects almost all attempts at a relationship with a clear and terrible t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:25 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?The issue isn't rejection though. I have rejected women politely, quietly, without making a fuss and without it being anyone else's business to know that they were into me and I wasn't into them. nobody should be denied the right to reject people they aren't into or even to be judged for it, that would be terrible. I am talking about public shaming, making a noisy fuss about turning someone down, sharing screenshots of the conversation online for everyone to laugh at. That is what shows lack of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:20 PM |
| 0 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?i don't think this theory hold up to scrutiny. If a man is dangerous, is publicly humiliating him really the safest thing to do? How is that safer than quietly telling him you are not interested and leaving or sitting with a group? Making a fuss about his having dared to approach you is far more likely to trigger a nasty response from someone who has just been hurt and humiliated in front of everyone than to make the 'creepy' guy back down. Also, by shaming him in front of the group, you have ru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:16 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Added a link to some examples, only one of which is a guy responding to a rejection badly. Most are lame attempts at humour that would have been seen as hilarious from someone else or by someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:11 PM |
| 2 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Point, which is why I am asking the BP chaps, as my understanding of their posiion is more akin to 'we are all lovely people who get along great and treat each wonderfully' as opposed to, we are different camps whose interests may conflict and thus must watch out for ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 04:06 PM |
| 4 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?I see where you are coming from and I have always thought if women asked out more men, there would be greater understanding on both sides. Unfortunately, men can't know what it is like, " to swat away crude sexual come ons from complete strangers, or worse, dangerous offers of mindless worship, like they're mosquitos on a hot summer night", unless more women take the initiative and go after men. Men cannot make women do that, women have to face rejection multiple times, bear their hearts not kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 03:59 PM |
| 1 | BP; Do you notice the gender imbalance in shaming those you consider unattractive and if so, how does that not lead you to RP or MGTOW?Google OkCupid cringe or Tinder cringe or anything of the sort. You will get tons of private messages, shared publicly to ridicule the men who sent them. I am not saying these guys are Casanovas but it is human nature, everyone is at some point liked by people they aren't into, everyone has awkward, sometimes lame interactions, but i don't see guys sharing them for the world to laugh at women. For example, one such 'nasty' message being called cringe-worthy is him asking if she would want to ado… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Question... Is it just the Western world where MGTOW is strongly advised?Checking in from Africa here. MGTOW is a global necessity. The confusion I think comes from the thinking that everything was perfect before feminism and if you go to a place that hasn't been influenced by it that much, all will be well. All societies are built on the exploitation of men. You're not a civilization unless sacrifice themselves every day and the altar at which they do is their family. The difference in traditionalist society is the man is esteemed for his sacrifice but he is still a… | /r/MGTOW | 09/07/17 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPmen: do you prefer basic bitches?I think that's because of two things. The first is the variance between the many different types of women men are attracted to and the few types of women marketing says should be found attractive. Brothers are cheating on their skinny, model looking wives with big booty thots coz thats what they're really into but that look isn't something they wanna be seen with. There are chuby chasers acting like each time they hooked up with a fat chick it was a drunk mistake and making fun of fat girls but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/17 04:03 PM |
| 3 | Ultra-Feminist Mag Jezebel attempts to downplay threat of Super-GonorrheaI'm pretty sure I remember them running an article a year or so back about being proud to have STDs and the whole comment thread was 'feminist' women coming out and boasting about all the STDs they had and how they wear them with pride and won't let themselves be slut shamed over them. American men, enjoy. | /r/MGTOW | 09/07/17 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Men: forget younger women, and face up to the fact that sperm goes off too [RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE]Wait, you're telling me my sperm goes off and it becomes harder to trick/trap me into an 'accidental' pregnancy? YAY! (begins dancing to Shadilay) | /r/MGTOW | 09/07/17 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPmen: do you prefer basic bitches?There is no single ideal body shape or age for women. The top age specific porn searches are 'teen' followed by 'milf'. Have you seen the weight variance amongst female pornstars? PAWG and BBW rank higher than searches for skinny. Men are attracted to a wide range of body shapes, heights, weights, ages, complexions. Granted there is a median that most find some attraction to, but for every healthy shape and size (and some dangerously unhealthy ones) there is a man who digs that. So use what you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/17 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPmen: do you prefer basic bitches?You don't say anything wanting the nerdy guys, did you want them or did you want to be wanted by them? Did you ever take the initiative and ask out any of these nerdy guys? Or did you sit around waiting for them to ask you out? The dreaded party girls knock back a few drinks then go after what they want, either directly or by making it blatantly obvious that they're interested, no subtlety, no confusion. As an introvert, are you maybe giving the impression you want these guys to f-off and leave … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/17 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a lie. Science Shows Women Have Evolved To Be Coerced Into SexRape fantasies are a curious thing. They by their nature cannot be lived out. If acted out with someone you find attractive and want to pretend to be raped by, it is still fantasy play, it isn;t a realization of the fantasy itself. And if you are actually to be raped, that is something completely different from the fantasy as in fantasy, the 'victim' has the real power, builds the fantasy they way they want to, unlike with an actual rape. I understand rape fantasies are very popular with women, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/17 09:35 PM |
| 0 | Women and their "inteligence"Used to confuse me a lot till I realized that what most women with a sense of humour are those who will laugh at your jokes, not make any effort to say anything funny. Smart women are those who think they are willing to let you say 'smart' things, not those who actually have anything smart to say themselves. And invariably when you start into any detail, they switch off because they don't actually about anything 'smart', smart is just a personality trait they want to have. It is always shallow a… | /r/MGTOW | 02/07/17 11:44 PM |
| 0 | Women and their "inteligence"Used to confuse me a lot till I realized that what most women with a sense of humour are those who will laugh at your jokes, not make any effort to say anything funny. Smart women are those who think they are willing to let you say 'smart' things, not those who actually have anything smart to say themselves. And invariably when you start into any detail, they switch off because they don't actually about anything 'smart', smart is just a personality trait they want to have. It is always shallow a… | /r/MGTOW | 02/07/17 11:44 PM |
| 11 | Women and their "inteligence"Used to confuse me a lot till I realized that what most women with a sense of humour are those who will laugh at your jokes, not make any effort to say anything funny. Smart women are those who think they are willing to let you say 'smart' things, not those who actually have anything smart to say themselves. And invariably when you start into any detail, they switch off because they don't actually about anything 'smart', smart is just a personality trait they want to have. It is always shallow a… | /r/MGTOW | 02/07/17 11:40 PM |
| 1 | John McEnroe says Serena Williams would be No. 700 in world if she played in men's circuitI think a big part fo why the Soviets had such badass women was because they didn't coddle them. In WW2, facing Nazis who wanted to annihilate the Soviets, there was no room for special treatment so the best women did well. A big part of the problem now is women not even being asked to perform at the same level. Why struggle to match others when you can coast by on gender alone? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/07/17 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a lie. Science Shows Women Have Evolved To Be Coerced Into SexReally? I hardly know any guys with a rape fantasy but most of the women I know do. Heck, a look at Pornhub's stats on who views what shows it is mostly women looking for rape shit and they're into pretty rough stuff. I know 'modern', feminist chicks who into getting choked, spat on, called nasty shit and slapped around but dudes who need that shit to get off? Not so many. Yes, it is anecdotal but it lines up with most surveys on fantasy and porn viewing habits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a lie. Science Shows Women Have Evolved To Be Coerced Into SexI have trouble with this who rape fantasy stuff. I get it in theory but it has no appeal for me and it thats what somebody needs to get off she better find somebody else. Rape fantasy play may be fun for the woman but as a guy, you are taking chances in the current legal system, I know a girl who got two of her exes jailed for rape after they tried break up her after their usual rough rapey sex. And she proudly admits it was a setup and says she will do it to any guy who thinks he can ever leave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/17 03:10 PM |
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