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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Men are such PIGS A "whore" is a derogatory term, even prostitutes don't want to ne called that. The fact that you see that word as innocuous is exactly the pronlem.	/r/MensRights	25/02/12 03:27 AM
1	Men are such PIGS Don't worry about it, I am off meds adhd and can't organize my thoughts well enough to make my point right now. I am bringing up irrelevant things and not emphasizing my point sorry. I'm over it but one last point I want to emphasize is there are people that will always victimize themselves and no one can change that or try to take responsibility for their well-being. That said, I still wish we could even the playing field for everyone.	/r/MensRights	25/02/12 03:22 AM
4	Men are such PIGS That there is a double standard that its OK to objectify a woman by what she wears, that society insists she change her behavior, which is mildly inappropriate rather than change the double standard which is dehumanizing and destructive. Calling women a "WHORE" for what they wear is very hurtful, a "WHORE" when used derogatory implies person that is property and not a person with rights and can be treated as a thing you can do whatever you want with. Men and women are equally guilty of doing thi…	/r/MensRights	22/02/12 01:04 AM
1	Men are such PIGS I hope so.	/r/MensRights	22/02/12 12:35 AM
2	Men are such PIGS You are still missing the point. People have different ideas of appropriate dress, just because one person is doing it wrong doesn't mean it's OK for society to dehumanize and objectify them. Someone's clothing doesn't determine their humanity.	/r/MensRights	22/02/12 12:35 AM
2	Men are such PIGS I have accepted all of those things but I feel like activism is a place to be idealistic, I can accept something while still speaking out against it.	/r/MensRights	22/02/12 12:30 AM
1	Men are such PIGS First of all I am not commenting on the photo, I am commenting on a comment stating "I can certainly see why a woman would not enjoy being leered at too often. Of course, I only have empathy for them if they dress modestly." so don't put my comments in context to the obviously fake profile. The mistreatment isn't when someone stares at you, it's when you are told that it's your own fault. I don't like to play reverse the role game but imagine you are a guy in a world where you are judged by how …	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 11:27 PM
2	Men are such PIGS I understand that appropriate dress is important, I am speaking towards a double standard regarding gender. Is there a way to identify a man as a whore by what he wears? When you get dressed you may think "hmm casual, business casual or club attire?" Then you are done making decisions. No man is thinking, "well if I wear these tight jeans I might not be respected and I might be objectified and mistreated by women." That just doesn't concern a man as much as it concerns a woman and if I told you …	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 11:08 PM
1	Gender debate stirring up issues in Magic: The Gathering sub reddit. Because I ask for an explanation that means I can have no comment on it? I am focusing on the small piece of a larger picture because the small piece doesn't make any sense to me in the context. I find a logical failure in the premise of the sequence, it doesn't seem to me that one part is related to another while he is claiming a direct relation and in fact causality. If you are going to explain how the water cycle works and I ask you what does evaporation have to do with it you should be able …	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 10:50 PM
4	Men are such PIGS Then all of the armpit fetishists would call her a whore and that if she didn't want them to fuck her armpit she shouldn't have shown it to them.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 11:55 AM
6	Add this to your "male privilege" list. If your SO has an injury, you will automatically be assumed to be an abuser. I guess it wasn't as funny as I thought.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 11:40 AM
3	Men are such PIGS I can see that, I never thought of it as a problem from the male perspective but personally I am concerned more about the socialization you are talking about than gender RIGHTS per say. I believe gender rights have made excellent strides aside from paternal rights, however the problem now is the lies we have been led to believe and conform to as it is damaging to not only our relationships with each other but to our own pursuit of happiness that shouldn't be restricted by some societal expectati…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 11:36 AM
1	Men are such PIGS I meant to respond for you but for some reason I assumed your response was from the same person I was responding to. So yeah just ignore anything after I say roll my eyes, I meant to direct the rest toward Aardvarkious.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 10:11 AM
0	Men are such PIGS Well I was speaking more towards a generalized outlook. When you say the person in question are you referring to the OP's photo? If so they actually never state that men are pigs, in fact they don't even define any gender. The term used is "friends" and for all we know they might be lesbian.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 09:59 AM
-2	Men are such PIGS It is not responsible for someone's self esteem, I agree. We can't really hold "society responsible for anything since individuals can really only have the freedom of action it takes to truly be responsible. However "The Other" is a very influential part of psychology that you can't ignore. People are more effected by other people than virtually all other environmental factors put together. A person can still dress themselves to impress others and, in turn help their own self esteem. Thus they A…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 09:33 AM
2	Gender debate stirring up issues in Magic: The Gathering sub reddit. Ok but this statement still makes it seem like your main concern with gender is related to your sexual value in the eyes of women. Are you trying to bridge the divide or widen it because gender rights and roles have a lot of other issues than your fuckability. Do you think something becomes socially acceptable on a wide level by only men and that women only follow suite? I find that usually something "geeky" becomes more socially acceptable when the other half of the population begins to accept …	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 09:05 AM
3	Men are such PIGS That is my point, they are not the same at all but both are considered "immodest" by one person or another, and living in Utah and baring my shoulders I might as well put an ass pic on my facebook because if I am not covering up some magic jammies i must certainly be a heathen. I am just saying subjective terminology doesn't help anyone.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 08:49 AM
0	Men are such PIGS Yet I have still been told many of the same things about "immodesty" that I read in this thread. It might be because it's Utah, but the point I'm making is modesty is a subjective term, I can go across the border an hour to Vegas and look Amish in the same clothes. I'm not trying to defend "her" or anyone who behaves one way while claiming another, and roll my eyes just as much. I just think being careful about the terminology is important and using subjective terms to classify people is counter…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 08:39 AM
3	Men are such PIGS That sounds more like a dating issue than a gender equality issue. Women certainly have varied ideas on what they find attractive in men so the best thing I would say is try to get to know them before being overtly sexual or try to find out if there is an environment best suited for you to meet women who find you attractive.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 08:16 AM
2	Men are such PIGS I think this is a good point, you cant but that's almost why its scary when people "leer." While the girl isn't sure if she has something hanging from her nose or if she looks nice her father is over there telling her to cover up because "you don't even want to know the disgusting thoughts men get when they look at you in clothes like that." Now we are all freaked out on top of wondering why someone is staring.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 08:02 AM
0	Gender debate stirring up issues in Magic: The Gathering sub reddit. This post makes no sense considering almost any other boys club does nothing to devalue their sexuality and I don't understand why sexual value has anything to do with this cycle.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 07:47 AM
4	Men are such PIGS I think she is also going beyond leering and talking about dating in general so that's a whole other can of worms. (why do worms come in cans) I realize context is key and I have my own opinion of what I would consider overtly sexual but a girl can't be responsible for other people's behavior if she truly doesn't understand what someone else's standards are. The problem is overtly sexual would seem to be the cultural norm by my standards and I am no prude but if national TV and children's progra…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 07:34 AM
2	Men are such PIGS I still don't understand what "dressing promiscuous" means to you either. I certainly have my own idea of what is overtly sexually suggestive but all I can do is make my own wardrobe decisions based on that. If someone is certainly a hypocrite and know they are that is one thing, but its not solely applicable to women. You never know what someone else's motivations are and I can't pass judgement either way unless I do. EDIT: I am pointing out the subjective tone you are using just to demonstrate…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 06:52 AM
1	Men are such PIGS Reality. Do you think that is not true? I am not saying people are passing unfair judgments on how a person looks but anyone with the same evolutionary development as any other human WILL use any visual cue to assess a person. At first sight, before any interaction or behavioral observation takes place we can usually look at someone and assess their age, gender, and social status, all important things regarding interaction with them. I would feel self-conscious if I were representing myself, say…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 06:42 AM
3	Men are such PIGS The problem is that is a subjective term. I don't know what you think a whore looks like, any that I have seen are pock faced crackheads with no money for clothes.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 06:28 AM
6	Men are such PIGS What do you consider modest? I just moved to southern Utah last year and had to wear tank tops and shorts ALL THE TIME, I didn't even put on long pants or sleeves once until November. I feel like I am burning up with anything more than spaghetti string tops. I dress that way 100 per cent for comfort yet many would say that I should not reveal all that skin, for FUCK SAKE, Its not like I am wearing bondage gear, the shit is mostly from Old Navy! Yeah I show a lot of cleavage, sorry i have big boo…	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 06:15 AM
-2	Men are such PIGS Or maybe you feel good because of the lack of negative responses by others too since everyone is always concerned by how other people look. It is a great source of information, and if you don't feel like you are representing yourself as best you can it will make you feel self-conscious.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 06:05 AM
4	Add this to your "male privilege" list. If your SO has an injury, you will automatically be assumed to be an abuser. I bruise easily and often get mystery bruises. Then I stopped drinking.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 05:54 AM
0	Add this to your "male privilege" list. If your SO has an injury, you will automatically be assumed to be an abuser. I wish there was a thatsthejoke.jpg for real life.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 05:53 AM
-5	Add this to your "male privilege" list. If your SO has an injury, you will automatically be assumed to be an abuser. Is it so bad to look at you? Did anyone accuse you of anything or directly ask either of you if domestic abuse played a part? Maybe their first assumption is abuse because they see it constantly in their profession and were looking to size you up and read for clues that it was a domestic incident and if they never accused you you should be glad that they were able to tell you weren't an abuser.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 05:50 AM
-4	Add this to your "male privilege" list. If your SO has an injury, you will automatically be assumed to be an abuser. I don't think this applies to men's oppression so much as you think. Anyone with their face fucked up will get stares in public, we know this from Fight Club. It really is more of a poor reflection on the battered woman stereotype, any woman with a bruise must be a poor low self esteem victim that can't stand up for herself, let's save her.	/r/MensRights	21/02/12 05:45 AM