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You’re already falling to their “logic” when you use high profile couples because their basic premise is that men can only find love if they’re the top of top of the crop. One thing that causes their logic to fall apart? Go to a very poor neighborhood and see how many couples of very poor and ugly people are out there. And in most cases the woman will still be the “less ugly” one. From a black pill perspective, average and below average men are destined to die alone. From a red pill perspective …
/r/ExRedPill31/08/25 12:52 PM
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Chad is an idea. A permanent threat looming over piller’s shoulders. It’s this intangible depiction of uber masculinity, of everything they adore, that just takes everything he wants and is denied nothing. One thing you’d notice in TRP circles is that every single “real life” Chad is downgraded eventually. He became a beta because he married, because he became a liberal, because he became blue pilled, because he isn’t as successful, because he isn’t as shredded, because whatever. Because no one …
/r/ExRedPill27/04/25 03:46 PM
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I think you’re grossly overestimating the average experience of women in their 30’s. I’m a dude who’s been around and so did my GF but we’re complete outliers in our social circles, and her even more, even though her count is in the high 20’s. Same applies to your fear of being compared to non-vanilla experiences. My GF, with over 10 partners by that point, hadn’t ever came until she was…23 or something like that. When I met her she was resistant of oral sex because she wasn’t used to it and fel…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/24 07:16 PM
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I mean, your definition of leagues hinges on the fact that in real life we’re already pretty set apart in the socioeconomic criteria in most casual interactions where there’s a possibility to foment a relationship. And by that extent, the appearance criteria. If someone doesn’t fit a certain socioeconomic criteria you just wouldn’t ever meet them anyway, or at least not in an approachable circumstance, and if you would, appearance would be the defining factor of how receptive one is into engagin…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/24 08:41 AM
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Not necessarily, all our experiences are anecdotal so even the most general rules will have plenty of exceptions. But having the same “attachment style” would rank pretty high in my rank of aspects that influence a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 04:38 PM
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Not necessarily disorders, basically how you are in the context of a relationship. Some people are more detached and individualistic, others feel the need to be together all the time.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 04:28 PM
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That’s a generalized statement because it serves no purpose for TRP rhetoric to use well established concepts as these are easier to refute while limiting their reach. Keep it vague and everybody can fit into it by creating their own meaning. You’re just describing TRP pipeline as it goes moves from mildly inoffensive ideas like “focus on self improvement” to worse shit. Being a good looking muscular 6’5” dude just means you’re probably not going deep into unlike other dudes who have a vastly ne…
/r/ExRedPill02/01/24 06:09 PM
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Okay 🤷🏽 I think you should take a second look on what this sub is about, though. If you have issues dealing with people who consumed misogynistic entertainment it really doesn’t seem like a sub where you’ll be dealing almost exclusively with these people a good fit. And I hope you don’t read that as gatekeeping, it’s just that it sounds like you’d get frustrated reading stuff here while doing a disservice to potentially reformed RP dudes. Most TRP content is specifically designed to attract poor…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 04:00 PM
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That isn’t necessarily a dig on women. Most people would rather have a relationship with the best people we can get by any metrics we deem meaningful. It’s just that we all, men and women, learn pretty soon to just play with the cards we’re dealt with.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 03:17 PM
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Their fans like to act like that taller dude is John Wick because he did some work in a federal agency or some shit like that.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 03:15 PM
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That’s not really true and frankly, judging people who consume this sort of content as unredeemable is kind of whack given the sub you’re in. lol
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 03:13 PM
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Only Alpha dude on youtube is that one that gives fashion advice
/r/ExRedPill05/10/23 08:58 PM
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That’s my whole point? High value men marry high value women, that’s how it ever was. Good luck finding a value men if you’re not worth it.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 08:58 AM
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It doesn’t force anyone to become better at anything because it lacks the obvious caveat: Are these women worthy of this ubermensch? I fail to see what’s refreshing on it compared to TRP as they have shit ton of similarities. That’s like saying TRP forces women to become better wives. Better wives to whom? Neckbeard incels who set unrealistic demands to push their rhetoric?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 08:39 AM
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I mean, they recommend exploiting desirable men. lol It’s just a different outlook because men/women perception of sex and power dynamics are different.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/23 08:33 AM
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Isn’t that the same thing? Why would you ask for a strange’s number? I’ve seen it in US videos but that’s not how it works in my country, at all. And judging by these videos, isn’t it implied that you’re making a move?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 01:24 AM
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What? There’s no knee jerk reaction, at all. I’ve reread my responses ten times now trying to understand how you felt any sort of aggression out of it. Still don’t get it. Judging by your longer reply, you kinda understand what I meant? Your tirade about fearing for your reputation is exactly what happens to most shy men, to a degree. They’re afraid of being seem as creeps and that’s a very logical conclusion given how much they’re bombarded with the idea that any unsolicited advance is creepy a…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 01:20 AM
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In younger generations it’s not stigmatized. It still doesn’t happen because of what the other person said. Like, being rejected sucks. Going on a limb and asking someone out or simply initiating a talk with a stranger you’re interested is not easy. There’s simply not enough incentive for women to do it as men still ask women out most of the time and if most women can do just fine not asking anyone out, ever.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/23 11:31 PM
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I don’t think that’s what most men see/experience. A below average/introvert dude who’s friends with aaaall the pretty ladies and while it’s clear that they’re straight and interested they’re often emasculated in these friendships. In most of these cases the women can be quite pushy in regards to the attention they “demand”. Now I’m not saying that men and women can’t be friends, but that’s a very frequent scenario. Of course we can only deal with anecdotes here but I’d be willing to survey it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:39 PM
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Because it’s often said, and believed, that attraction can be nurtured in women? If you’re not an attractive dude right out of the gate most women you date will be out of generated attraction through coexisting, if you’re not into dump diving. But I get what you mean and that’s often where these guys mishandle things. You can “be there” while hinting interest instead of trying to be her BFF
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:33 PM
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I’ll back up your experience and upgrade it to a rule. People who don’t fuck more often than not are, surprisingly, not very good at fucking. Of course a person can be very experienced just out of serious relationships, but I feel like most times these aren’t the type of people really holding off sex. They’re just more selective in regards to who they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:27 PM
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20% of the userbase being female means most women aren't using it. The data describing it doesn't divide active/non-active users.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:18 PM
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Dating dynamics are fickle in a virtual environvemnt for obvious reasons. You're a 7/8. Your wife is probably more than a 6. Did you two meet online? No? Here's the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:17 PM
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Aren’t you the one with extraordinary claims? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:48 PM
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100% agreed. Have to confess it was incredibly surprising for me when I started visiting PPD and found out there are people who get in a relationship prior to having sex/checking for sexual compatibility. Not only it sounds like jumping a few steps for me but it also sounds simply counterintuitive. You’re going out with a lady once or twice, you’re both attracted to each other and are having a nice time, why the he’ll wouldn’t you two want to have sex ASAP? I guess I’m too much of a manwhore tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:48 AM
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> The US debt has now exceeded the GDP for the first time since WWII. A very important metric, indeed. Specially in a vacuum. As we all know the economy of a nation works exactly like that of a household so we can't let that happen, amirite? No wonder the Austrian School is so popular among the economy illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:24 PM
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Tell me you know nothing about macroeconomy without telling me you know nothing about macroeconomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:18 PM
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How is anyone being “weirdly capitalist” about relationships? Do you understand what defines capitalism in the first place? lol You should really revisit your communist theory if you think that applies somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:14 PM
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Yeah, because they’re famous? Most of you guys don’t seem to grasp that virtually nothing about celebrities can be extrapolated to the general population in terms of social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:33 PM
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You’re dropping into mom mode because you’re acting like a mom. lol Is “not knowing naps aren’t supposed to be 4 hours long” really a good way to assess anything? I’m 100% sure most 30yo adults, male or female, would have no idea of this tidbit of info you shared about naps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:48 AM
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Being a physics major isn't a flaw, that guy was probably just insecure. That's the point of OP, tho. Many men are insecure about a woman who's not a follower.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:35 PM
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Did those man have masculine traits? Ancient Greece is famous for its ephebophile tendencies. Fedro was 100% a twink. Alas, so all it took for men to be standard of beauty was to live in a society where women were literally considered less than in all aspects. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:31 AM
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The average ppd user social awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:27 AM
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Talk about arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:24 PM
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I also don't rely on one piece of research. I rely on evidence that is repeatable and reputable. ​ You immediately dismissed what's probably the most extensive body of research in regards to social trends in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:17 PM
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Would you mind offering reputable sources that don't corroborate this information? Or rather, what sort of evidence would be required to convince you? Is there an evidence of equivalent weight that sustains your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:10 PM
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The reason these anecdotes show up is because there’s often a HUGE leap between the stats and the conclusion. Most posts here: Women care more about appearance than they want us to believe. The obvious conclusion? If you’re not Brad Pitt you’re doomed to betabuxxx a 3/10 single mom of 3 in her late 30’s. Most generalizing statements are widely agreed upon, the issue is the “natural conclusions” people reach starting from them simply because general statements are too vague by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:45 PM
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What only makes generalizing arguments even less reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:39 PM
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Who defines the cap of effort? That’s just a conveniently subjective threshold that can be adjusted to whatever the argument requires. Most people would say a pro athlete is a Chad, even though he put more effort into achieving his notoriety than most of us have ever put into anything in our lives. Some people 100% have it easier, but their perceived effort also varies drastically. In short, effort can’t be measured by another person’s rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:54 PM
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Homeless, druggies, it’s all a matter of how much are you willing to compromise. Bear in mind that the tone being set isn’t that you don’t have sex because you don’t want to, but rather that by simply adhering to some basic standards you’re already being more selective that you’d think. There’s also the issue that most men in this US-centric sub think an “average woman” is a petit blonde when the actually average woman is 170lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:41 PM
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Because even the most desperate man here still has higher standards than he thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:24 PM
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Despite it doesn’t. Are you 6? If you can’t elaborate why even bother? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:31 PM
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lol this makes no sense. “All the mystery is gone once two people have sex” ???????????
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:21 PM
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He can be that rich. Dude is deep into all kinds of shady shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:18 PM
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You’re just reinforcing OP’s point. lol It’s like you know exactly what Tate’s taint taste like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:14 PM
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Money doesn’t make anyone attractive, it makes one tolerable. It’s basically trading a luxurious time/life for bedding with whoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:12 PM
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Bullseye. And that’s exactly what also leads women to feel insecure about unreachable standards for themselves, most physical traits they value in other women are genetic. “either you get or you don’t”. It’s “easier” trying to be a fitness model than being skinny “soft” with the body proportions of Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:05 PM
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All to do with having the power and exercising it the way you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:52 PM
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If that’s your cutoff you’re simply talking about vastly different things than most men are when they say women are promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:49 PM
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Are you short?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:03 PM
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I guess we can close the research department. There are anecdotes that contradict the trend!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:58 AM
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Of course you didn’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 10:56 AM
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Sorry, are you saying that every single one of your relationships began sexually and evolved from there? Pretty much, yes. This isn't a rule set on stone but if there's sexual interest, why the fuck would we not have sex on the first date/contact? Because that's low value behavior? haha whatever you say to convince yourself that you're jumping through hurdles because you want to. you do realize that you’re allowed to take someone for a few dates before you fuck them, right? Yes, I know, but once…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:24 PM
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the more strangers a person decides to fuck, the more that person likes to fuck strangers. This is a garbage quality in a long term partner. How exactly would you veto people for long term relationships if not by getting into at least casual relationships with them? I'm a serial monogamist men who had sex with plenty of women while single. Fucking strangers sucks. One night stands suck. But that's exactly how you meet new people, how you get to decide who's sexually compatible and who isn't. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:18 PM
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All in general terms, as the idea is extremely obvious: The joke is that from the moment men start developing their sexuality they're basically horn creatures that want to fuck anything that moves. The point is that much like men can handle not fucking anything that moves, women are also able not to move forward to the "next best sex thing" or back to the "previous best thing" just because sex was good or even better, disregarding a different context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:38 PM
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tldr; you're asking the ladies to pick the blue pill and live in blissful ignorance along with Cypher.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:36 AM
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In detriment of your wife xDDDDDD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:59 AM
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People called Russel a simp because he decided to date a single mom with a questionable dating history. Boy the FnF crowd must be EXTREMELY successful if they can reduce Ciara down to a "single mom with a questionable dating history" lmao Or...maybe they just have absolutely zero self awareness. Sounds more likely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:53 AM
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I saw you describing yourself and while you're probably okay in the looks department, how are you in the "posture" department? If you're shy, introverted or simply lacking in confidence it all kinda throws away how great of a communicator you can be whenever trying to escalate things. If women can't feel your "sexual presence", they won't acknowledge you as a possible partner, regardless of how much of a catch you might be in objective terms. I wouldn't consider myself good looking by a long sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:16 PM
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That applies to both genders. Americans are overrated by themselves, they're rated just fine by everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:25 AM
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10-20% of the women around my age(28 +-8) I’d sleep with. I’m a fit and smart dude who’s fully aware I’m on my peak years and high in demand. No fatties, no uglies, no borings, no jobless chicks for me. Have a relationship? Waaaaay less. lol maybe 1%? I feel like I caught lightning in a bottle with my current girlfriend: hot, smart, hippie, medical doctor and a whore in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:53 PM
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Dear lord stop with the fanfics lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:42 PM
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Just leave it open ended, if you don’t make a move they’ll get it at some point. Setting boundaries is cool and all but not everyone is reasonable, just don’t escalate anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:27 PM
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I mean, that dude isn't exactly the spokesperson of all men. lol I have taken the virginity of some of my ex girlfriends and all those relationships were vastly different, specially sexually. There's nothing about a girl being a virgin that's a given in regards to anything. The truth is just that men are expected to be sexually competent so it's a very common insecurity for most dudes here(specially those with low sexual experience) to be with a woman who has sexual experience. IME being with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:05 PM
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Because either she's a virgin or she got ran through the whole football team, huh? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:54 PM
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The other side of this coin is being forced to argue with someone who is being violent and destructive. Yes? And this equivalence is the exact reason why the OP of this comment line is wrong. Making my girlfriend take the blame in an argument just because my anger is a "genuine feeling" isn't right, that's a positive feedback to a negative attitude. Just like turning the discussion into something secundary as soon as she starts crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:27 PM
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Protip#1: don’t follow tips from anyone in this sub. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:47 AM
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But if a man is in OLD he’s just fine? I’m not following. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:47 AM
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There’ll always be this sort of rumor for any male leading star.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:12 AM
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Not the same spotlight as dating Leo, tho There’s levels
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:08 AM
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Certainly, but don't you think there's a benefit to having other things to care about other than the possibily shitty hand you were dealt in regards to love affairs? The harsh truth is that many good people will die alone but that doesn't mean they can't make anything out of their lives, as sad as that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:39 PM
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So? Why should I care if you think it’s not hard? It is hard if you’re introverted and not already good at it. why do you think anyone here should try to convince you? Dude just said he made friends just fine, he prolly got no issues in this aspect of his life. He's using himself as an example that OP is making absurd claims about making new acquaintances. Guys like you or OP should care because you're the ones who would benefit from this whole argument. Still doesn't care? No one's losing anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:36 PM
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Ikr, it’s like her aggregate experience is teenage romcoms. The #4 specially. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:13 AM
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Sounds like everyone in most work environments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:40 PM
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If you date a guy, he's not gonna be spot on "average". He's gonna be here in some areas and there in some areas. Yes, but he'll have a very high chance to being at most 1sd away from the average, as most people are. He doesn't need to be "spot on average" for the data to make sense because it presents trends. Because she's saying "on average, men and women have as much casual sex based on this data" but its like, if you date someone, you're dealing with that person, not an averaged out state fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:05 PM
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That's just dumb my friend, you're trying to argue that large population studies are useless to present trends because "we're talking about individuals". Might as well just say you disregard any fact that isn't compatible to your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:28 PM
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of course lol You can't use logic to dissuade someone who didn't use logic to reach their viewpoint in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:24 PM
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why and what is a counterpoint that doesn't rely on even greater extrapolations? The main argument against this data backed stance is that "women lie" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:46 PM
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Yes. That’s why an oft repeated advice is to just develop social skills with everybody. If you can’t talk to people you probably hve an even harder time talking to time, what leads to not being able to “read” interest as well as you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:36 PM
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Yes. Most men in the sub fall in 2 extremes: never shooting for fear of rejection shooting indiscriminately and growing frustrated Success lies in the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:25 PM
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Yeah it is. At least for western people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:44 PM
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Neither did most women in the world. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:43 PM
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Life isn't a RPG, sounds like you were dealt a shitty hand and there's no amount of grind that can make up for it, there's no failproof strategy, there's nothing. Just lower your standards, do your best to be a person people would like to be around and hope dumb luck hits you up with someone cool. I have no idea what sort of "practical" advice you expect from this sub. It'll be all self improvement shit you must've heard a thousand times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:23 AM
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Just dont be a sexless entity. Every single “large circle “ I’ve been a part of was literally “people who all hooked up with each other” at some point. Nothing wrong with having lots of female friends/acquaintances IF they know you’re a live dog. It doesn’t mean you hit up on them, it just means they know you’re dating frequently. That’s how you get to their friends, not by being an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:54 PM
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Pretty sure that’s called the pincer maneuver and lots of generals used it since cavalry was introduced to warfare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:47 PM
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Exactly. Who the hell doesn’t have something casual prior to committing? I truly feel like an alien when I read these guys theories. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:47 PM
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Wow do you live in the US? Here in my country once you graduate you’re basically set for life even if you only practice as a physician
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:27 PM
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Sure, med school takes a long time and you gotta put a lot of work, but all pays off once you graduate. You’ll get there 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:29 PM
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specializations and not working as much as physically possible to earn money that after a certain threshold makes little difference? My girlfriend attends a hospital 2x/week as a psychiatrist and has her own clinic for private clients, she works way less hours/wk than me(engineer) while earning way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:25 PM
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No, I want a woman with a stable career. "Career focused" people are people who live and breath for their work and that sucks for the partner be it as a man or a woman. I'm currently dating a physician and it's great. She makes very good money and has plenty of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:22 PM
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That comes with a simple answer: relationships aren’t an exact science. You can do everything right and still end up alone. You can do everything “wrong” and get lucky. Shitty hands only make everything harder and even more reliant on luck. I’ve known short ugly dudes who never spent a year alone in their livrs since they started dating. Are they necessarily doing anything better than that other short ugly dude who’s forever alone? Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:40 PM
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Can you expand? I feel like I’m not understanding what you’re saying. Are you saying that every instance of two people having sex only once and then never dating again is a case of pumping and dumping?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:31 PM
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If he’s doing her a treat, okay. If they’re both planning it and the standard set is to split the bill, why not? lol Alas, I’m only one person, statistically insignificant, “plenty” of women doesn’t mean much to me. Perhaps the niche of women I attract and date, more than once, are specifically the ones that don’t mind splitting the bill in other dates so I don’t really think it’s in any way relevant if every feminist type is willing or not. There are always cues and hints. It’s the 21th century…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:29 PM
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Because he didn’t engage with the lady with the exclusive purpose of having sex and running away. A lot can happen until the next day. The point of OP is that “pump and dump” is an expression often associated with bad faith and malice, just like “foodie calls”, when the truth is most people who date don’t plan this far. He’s 100% correct in saying both “issues” are overblown, if one was supposed to extrapolate this sub to realityy they’d imagine every interaction between men and women is a step …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:13 PM
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For someone not willing to give the benefit of doubt for almost never you certainly expect a lot of rationality from most people. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:09 PM
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The good ol’ “splitting the bill for the first dates in order to get a freebie by the 10th” con. That makes no sense, not paying the first dates is the vetting process for women who think this is the men’s obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:07 PM
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YOU made the claim that he isn't worth what he is actually worth. Er... After retiring from kickboxing, he used to own and operate a Webcam Services business with women who fully-consented to the work and his net worth is currently in the hundreds of millions. I disputed your claims, that I know are based on his claims. It really does sound like you follow his school of rhetoric, this conversation sounds eerily similar to his stream with Hassan. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:39 AM
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You do know he owns multiple businesses, right? And on top of that, most rich people don't have liquid funds. Their funds and by design, their net worth, is determined by the sum of their assets. Okay, so you got the first part right. You know what's the second? "Multiple businesses" are auditable. I'll leave it at that to check if you understand what's the second level. I would happily allow you to prove him wrong. So let me see if I got it right, the onus of evidence isn't on him to back up wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:09 AM
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his net worth is currently in the hundreds of millions. haha literally everything about his earnings is self reported. Dude said the biggest paycheck he got as a kickboxer as 100k. Dude was never part of any major kickboxing organization and his "world championships" come out of a Full Contact org. You can be 100% sure there's literally no way he got 100k out of a full contact fight. To put into context that's roughly what BIG names in the biggest orgs, like GLORY or ONE would pay their top figh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:08 AM
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Same thing he was trying to say. By being ambiguous you put yourself out there as a “sexual creature” at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:52 PM
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lol you have to be joking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:42 PM
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Let me rephrase it: Who’s the “judge “ of best sex here? The woman. How can you, or me, or any other person, a third party, set the difference between “actual best sex” she had and sex “she thinks is the best because she loves her partner”? Answer: You don’t. The emotional connection is inherent to sex so it’s perfectly possible that every new partner is the best for her simply because she loves him more now than her memory of previous experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:42 PM
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Or maybe the best sex is something that goes beyond some “objective” measurement of performance? Why wouldn’t it be the best if they think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:19 PM
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The whole point is that you never know for sure. It’s something that’s always self reported, so while anyone is entitled to having it as a dealbreaker usually it’s hardly worth the effort thinking about it. Men either don’t care or always assume their partner has a considerable n-count if her reported n count is astounding low. The only thing that changes anything in this case is him being in love and being willing to trust her word. None of that applies exclusively to “alphas/betas” “chads/cuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:34 PM
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well, I know many successful people who binge on coke, where is one allowed to draw the line here? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:26 PM
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How would you know if she wasn’t honest or why would her friends tell on her to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:36 PM
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And how do you know she didn’t fuck around when she was young and just changed and matured as she grew up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:34 PM
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And that’s why I always said worrying about N count is useless. It’s just a common point of contention because most guys here are envious of women having easy access to casual sex. In practice a dude can only know what the woman tells, or always infer the worst and live a life of paranoia. Dudes here think they have some sort of sixth sense or that a high N count lady will be walking around like a whore, flirting with everyone and whatever. More often than not this “judgement of character” is si…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:30 PM
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huh...there is? Do you think most athletic clothes(including male) are tight just to look good? That weightlifters use singlets because they're trendy? Of course most women aren't snatching 200kg, but tight clothes are often better for physical activities and many are made of "breathable" material that feels much better than cottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:07 PM
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Have you not heard of evolutionary psychology. I've heard, and most of what I've heard is that most studies in this area have glaring methodology flaws, unfalsifiable theories and extremely extrapolated conclusions. Is this it? It does seem to fit the bill of how it's mentioned here, as some sort of final say in whatever is being argued.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:04 PM
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That’s your definition and it doesn’t make any sense. There’s no reason to associate shallowness with fairness, your implicit point about “things men cannot alter”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:35 AM
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So you believe the subset of women who pay for a height filter in Bumble are representative of all women? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:31 AM
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We already do…? It’s up to each men to hold their own standard, just like each women does. Are you aware that they’re not a hivemind as much as we’re not? I’m a very progressive dude but I’d never date a fat lady because I hold myself to this standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:26 AM
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No. He’s saying men have a hard time reading interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:42 PM
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You’re obviously not talking out of experience. Unless both are from an extremely conservative background everybody has sex before committing to a long term relationship. It doesn’t matter if she gives it in the first or third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:15 PM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:23 PM
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You don't have to have sex for someone to be disgusted by the idea of you having sex. I'm having a really hard time believing you're not being dense on purpose. lol No one needs confirmation that you're gay in order to harass you, homophobic people do it by prejudging. That's how you get "passing" gays and people who are actually straight but end up being harassed all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:59 PM
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Not actual relationship issues with your mom, more in the freudian sense that your experiences with her outline your perception of the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:56 PM
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Or they're divorcing assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:19 PM
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What happened to looking for a man for companionship, partnership, romance, shared passions, compatible intimacy, creating a family, etc… huh...that's exactly what women say they look for in a man all the time in this sub. It's dudes like OP saying it's all money, height and dick size. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:16 PM
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Nah, just a man whose mom has 4 divorces, a sister who has 3 kids from different dad If mommy issues were as hot as daddy issues you'd be drowning in pussy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:13 PM
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Let's rephrase your question? So every single homophobic person is 100% sure the person they're being homophobic to had gay sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:32 PM
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The idea that “beta” man aren’t appealing to women in that raw emotional/sexual way so they must buy affection with external elements, such as being a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:14 PM
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How do you think relationships start? The vast majority of modern relationships start with casual sex. Once the woman decided to "give" sex, it's 100% the man's call to commit or not. Most average couples start with casual sex and getting to know each other for a few months. It truly feels like women are right when they say this sub consists mostly of bottom barrel men, in one way or another. Your perceptions of dating are just too far away from the average, it's kinda surreal sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:41 PM
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Pumping and dumping being a bad indicator for league doesn't negate that getting with hot guys has an effect on someone's perceived self worth. Yes, but the issue I have with this statement is the implication that there's something wrong with it. "Someone's perceived self worth" isn't inflated if they're getting it on with people attracted to them who you consider to be more attractive. The notion that they're inflated comes from the idea that hot men just get bored and start "digging through tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:35 PM
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More info: A reddit thread about another reddit thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:15 PM
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I'm surprised so few men challenge that notion that all men want casual sex and are jealous of those who get it. It just floats on by. Because that's what most men here are envious of. And it's not even the casual sex per se but the validation that they expect to get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:14 PM
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Gee, I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:12 PM
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I will however say that pumping and dumping isn't a useful way to gauge who is out of your league because as you said even average guys do it. Unless women realize that they are not in the same league as the guys that pump and dump them, their standards would be unrealistic for ltr. That's literally what you said. By now you should just admit you're just clueless about what you're talking about or even where your points are leading you to. It doesn't seem far fetched that if a good looking dude …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:08 PM
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But OP is right. Title of the thread: Jealousy drives much of the resentment displayed HERE OP's not talking about all men, is talking about the frustrated men from this sub. Or at least he/she should be. If they're extrapolating, yeah, they're dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:48 PM
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What upsets me is that I’m required to be perfect to earn women’s attention (good looking, fit, good flirt, confident, offer you a drink or whatever) I’ve seen very attractive women have ONS with rat looking motherfuckers dressed like homeless men. So yea. You're all over the place, dude. If anything, the fact that you're attractive but still can't grasp how to get casual sex and that rat looking mofos are getting it should be a very clear evidence that your perception of the "dating world" is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:45 PM
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Because being attracted to a gender or another isn't exclusive to the sexual act. Do you think you can only be gay if you're having sex? lol why is homophobia even a category for concern when it can be avoided by the exact same behavior That's the level of awareness from the average PPD user. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:36 PM
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Unless women realize that they are not in the same league as the guys that pump and dump them, their standards would be unrealistic for ltr. That's just wrong. Most women date dudes on the same level as them. Most dudes who "pump and dump" are average dudes getting it on with average women. That men have to put more effort to get it on with women doesn't mean women are getting it on with more attractive men all the time just because they may have an easier time. That's just virgins and incels ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:29 PM
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Nobody is jealous of a dude betabuxxing. In your perspective, when is an average dude not betabuxxing? This is just a low effort response to turn your eyes from the fact that average folk are getting along just fine, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:26 PM
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I understand. IMHO such topics need to be discussed either with people who are well equipped to talk about it, shrinks, or with people who are close to you/care about you. Why? Because while most people are capable of empathy, the empathy of strangers can only go so far. I'm sure you'd be able to find good people here in this sub who can give you valuable advice but the real issue is not letting everything else get to you. I feel like this sub is a terrible place to be if you're in a situation w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:43 PM
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The path out of this sort of behavior? For me it was the following: What's it doing for you? Venting is useful and we all need it at some point, but we gotta always bear in mind that at some point we gotta get our shit together and look for productive things to do in order to get what we want. Does it mean we'll get it? No, and we can always give up anytime we want it, but the only way to get something is to try. If you're one of these dudes looking for a relationship with a cool girl and stuff,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:25 PM
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To give you the benefit of doubt and reinforce my point: Here's what I said: There are unlucky men here who only want a good relationship with a good woman? Sure, but their voice is muted when they decide to echo the talking points of the previous group. Let's assume you're a cool dude just looking for a cool gal to be a happy couple. Here's the type of idea you associate with: Even women in their 30s and 40s, well past their prime have almost the same level of entitlement (sometimes even more) …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:53 PM
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Stop LARPing bro, everyone can feel the resentment coming out of every single one of your responses. The fact that you started the conversation by trying to devalue her and jumped straight into the wildest assumptions is telling. It's actually quite remarkable, in 4 replies you managed to: Imply she's low value She's not happy Her husband wasn't her first choice Her husband isn't attractive Her husband isn't high value in any way Her husband actually doesn't even exist. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:48 PM
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yes they are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:40 PM
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Men are complaining about having to make as much effort or more for women less attractive than them or other women who require the same effort. And yet you wonder why people clump you with dudes who just want to have sex when that's how you define how much effort someone is worth. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:39 PM
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Someone should create a TouchGrass_bot that sends an inbox message to anyone who replies more than 5x/day in this sub telling them to go touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:36 PM
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who cares. At the end of the day you're the one choosing to be bothered by shit some women say here and project it onto 50% of the world/country population. Literally every single "group" of this sub can make a post just like this one: Men don’t seem to listen to men here nor care about what they are saying. This is perhaps most evident in their continually responding to every complaint Women make about dating by saying they only want to fuck 8ft tall 12" inch cocked 500k/yr blue eyed 6 packed C…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:34 PM
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No, it proves that those guys can get a date, probably through a combination of luck and intangibles that you're not seeing. I'd argue that their success only proves that they fought through the unfairness and did the work. It should really make most men here reflect on how they perceive themselves as far as their "market value" goes when greasy neckbeards can get a girlfriend and be in a happy relationship while "fit dudes making 6 digits" are forever alone because "they're not 6ft tall". lol T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:06 AM
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Are you going to back up any of your disagreements with something or is it just your word against his “cherry picking “? Is it really that hard to admit culture is a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:22 PM
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Well, of course, studies already prove that single mothers are the poorest “social group” of all, regardless of morons thinking they’re living a life of luxury with welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:14 PM
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Yes, because they’re fetishized and, somehow, even more objectified than white women. I’m from LatAm and literally every single woman I know who has travelled abroad(Europe/NA) and looks latina has been harassed because of it. There’s an obvious reason white nerds go wife shopping in SEA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:05 PM
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He should be happy if he's in a happy relationship. Her previous relationships have nothing to do with him and she has nothing to do with his frustrations. Your logic is akin to school shooters targeting females because he was rejected by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:47 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:14 AM
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Let’s disenfranchise the social group that’s already the one that struggles the most economically so that I can have a better shot at getting laid. And I’m sure you define yourself as a “nice, loving and caring dude” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:47 PM
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Good luck arguing with women that you want to be their boy toy lmao How unfair that you can’t even be used for sex while being a useless person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:08 PM
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That’s just sad. lol But I guess that’s easier to digest than dealing with your own shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:50 PM
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You guys really like to put yourselves in a corner, huh? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:40 PM
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Just think of it. In most places you get in you’re literally head and shoulders above everyone else. There’s no way for a man your size to be invisible. Of course, in the context of this thread being seen as a behemoth isn’t ideal, but let’s just say you’re “noticed”. Of you get to an average weight for your size you’ll 100% get some attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:03 AM
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180-200lbs women Are they 6’4”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:48 AM
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I worked in "Corporate America" and sold an excess of 45 million dollars of stuff That sounds like what Vincent Adultman does while at the business factory and whenever he goes to the Stock Market. There's no way you can buy into this sort of bullshit just because he's in a suit. lol It's just the way he talks. People half hear what he has to say, he just says it like it means something.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 06:32 PM
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This is not because you’re a man, that’s because you have no sense of self worth. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:37 PM
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It's the easiest because it plays exactly into what men think is attractive, it's masculine by nature. Fashion and self care are trickier because they involve being aware of the "female gaze", and that's something hard to develop, I wager.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:22 AM
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For men it means a physical one: PIV. lol I'm glad the spokesperson for all men in the world could be someone so eloquent. Please, don't project your miserable existence onto all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:11 AM
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Yes, what doesn't apply to the men here discussing TRP concepts, SMV, RMV and "game theory" to exhaustion, which is the exact point of the post: "What most men in this sub get wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:06 AM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:05 PM
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You don't need connections with other people to establish connections with other people in the first place. You talk as if people only meet new people through friends in common when that's clearly false. You meet new people playing online games, in the gym, walking, running, swimming, on the beach, doing Yoga, hiking, travelling...you can make new friends doing literally anything. I have several friends who travel alone and make new acquaintances wherever they go. There's nothing obvious in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:04 PM
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Sounds less farfetched than you stopping being defeatist and doing something for yourself, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:51 PM
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What's the equivalence to money here? Having a personality? Having interests? Having hobbies? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:50 PM
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What's exactly your expectation? -You don't want to seek out new hobbies; -You don't want to hang out in places where people socialize; -You don't want to spend money going to social events. There's no cheat code to level up grinding trash mobs at home and then going out all maxed up and get your dream wife in your first trip out of your room. If you don't expose yourself to situations where you can meet new people, there's literally nothing that can work. You're not refuting arguments, these su…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:48 PM
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Nothing. Only loneliness. Is that the answer you're expecting by ignoring the actual sound advice you choose to dismiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:44 PM
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Ikr, how can she not react nicely to a bunch of neckbeards saying she’s either uglier than she thinks or that she’s lying? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:17 AM
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You’re kinda clueless aren’t you? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:10 AM
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Not really, because here’s the catch: most relationships won’t last forever because only one will. That’s why I say, love like it’s going to last forever. Then, if it doesn’t at least you got the most out of it.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 04:22 PM
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That was sarcasm, but given the sub we are in, I forgive you. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:09 PM
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No way, she got wet as soon as he got into the bar
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:06 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:17 AM
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It just dawned on me where the alias Mos Def comes from lol
/r/ExRedPill09/07/22 06:25 PM
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Well, nothing but you can understand why they wouldn’t compliment us if that’s what’s implicit.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 01:15 PM
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Sometimes this sub feels like aliens taking notes on how to be human.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:56 PM
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But is she cute, fit, shorter than me, hard working(but not outearning me), patient, conservative but quirky, wants to have kids, is a whore in the sheets and thinks I’m the hottest guy in the universe? If not, thE gAmE iS RiGgeD!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:26 PM
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I always do. It's a great way to veto shitty women. Of course how much I show hinges on how comfortable I'm with them and for how long we're seeing each other but I tend to open up ASAP in order to gauge their reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:45 PM
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Sorry but that’s 1000% bullshit lmfao The average male is probably a 5’5 chinese/indian, is that your standard? 🤣 Also, have you ever been to Europe? That couldn’t be further from the truth ahahahah I tend to agree with you on a lot of stuff but this time I’m having a hard time believing you believe in what you said. Women take into account the world average What’s that even supposed to mean. Everybody’s standards are defined by their very short immediate reach. No one’s dating standards are inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:12 PM
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It’s the complete opposite. BMI is very effective at what it proposes to do in population studies, it’s poor in very specific instances that are all outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:07 PM
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It’s not just that. Social influencers tinker their profiles for more access. Even if you don’t follow them in the first moment they’re “offered” to you eventually because that’s what the system does to popular profiles. It’s like a positive feedback loop where getting more followers makes it easier for you to get more followers. All you said applies to every gender, wealth bracket, age…everybody is fed young,rich and pretty people to their feeds eventually, even your sister is probably offered …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:04 PM
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Aka, literally everything else will cause the collapse of humanity before “too much” sexual freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:23 PM
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Or, you know, just an account to post pictures of hangouts with friends and a way to interact with them, like most normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:51 PM
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Relationships are indeed quite similar to drug addiction if your knowledge about it stems from reddit. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:02 AM
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I cant have sex so society will inevitably collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:55 AM
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Is thrre any source for that 60% number?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:55 AM
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Oh no, she’s getting a lot of likes from @unclefester and his pals. She’ll literally never look at average men ever again. That’s another completely overblown “effect”. Most normal women I know have “normal” social medias. Insta thots are far and few, relatively speaking, the reason it looks like they’re the majority is because that’s who most men follow and because they’re who the algorithm pushes you to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:50 AM
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Didn't these men acting in behalf of women just now revoked,in practical terms, their right to abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:29 PM
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Most men of our generation still aren't sexless or incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:34 AM
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Why would we look at college men instead of all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:00 PM
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Not as unattractive as short ugly scrawny/skinny fat guys lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:51 PM
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I'm aware of what is a party. My point is that it makes no sense to consider "meeting women through acquaintances" not a big factor in meeting women. Even if you consider a party or social gathering your chances of developing something with someone are infinitely higher if you know them prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:30 PM
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How does it not make sense? You can only show interest in someone if you're in a party/event? lol Meeting more women is how you get to pick one up, the closer the environment the better, hence why friends setting up friends is such an easy task.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:31 PM
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If that's what you think of the dude why are you even friends with him to begin with?lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:28 PM
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How isn’t that literally what happens already? Most people are average, dating average men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:31 PM
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The distance you’re going to defend these two guys against a random woman on the internet says everything everybody needs to know lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:23 PM
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Hahahah wtf Of course I know smartphones and the internet don’t stop existing, the point is that interactions are vastly different offline vs online. 1st point: Most women aren’t on dating apps and most women aren’t insta thots. 2nd point: Point still stands even if you only consider those she’d match with. Most men don’t approach. If you approach you’re already increasing your odds. Don’t want to be considered a creep? Dont just approach random women on the street. Be part of social events, soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:14 PM
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They would change because: Online there's an absurdly inflated abundance of men giving her attention/validation; In real life most men who swipe right on a girl wouldn't try talking to her; In real life you don't have to be hottest dude of all to be "approved"; In real life you can have her attention instead of just being one of a thousand notifications on her phone; In real life you can use everything in your power to hit on her unlike online where all she sees is a bio and a few pictures. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:29 PM
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You don't see what changes in being able to talk to a woman, check her reactions and act accordingly right from the start?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:17 PM
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You don't see what changes in being able to interact with a woman frmo the getgo? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:12 PM
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i watched and studied this video for hours dear lord ahhaaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:08 PM
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Idk if I can say I was ever unsuccessful, I feel more like I went from an average experience to a successful experience. I used to be an invisible guy who dated invisible girls but in recent years I became much more demanding in regards to the women I hookup/date but I didn’t feel like my success rate decreased, on the contrary, I feel like having standards set me apart from other men and enabled me to get to women I wasn’t used to hanging out with. Anyway, I’m a cynical optimist. I believe in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:53 AM
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I use the same standards simply because I’m too liberal to accept the notion of completely providing for a fully functional adult. Gladly I never had any bad experience in this regard, it’s just how I always ended up dating and since my last LTR I just decided I could standardize it. Crazy pussy sometimes makes you go crazy, it’s good to have some “formal” rules to pull you back to reality. Haha If the woman doesn’t have a stable job or at least something going on in her life, that’s a 100% no-n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:32 AM
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If a woman wants to befriend a man is she a "jerk" if she doesn't disclose that she's only interested in him platonically? Yes? It's all about context. If they met in a context that would lead him to believe they're developing a romantic relationship she 100% needs to disclose it at some point. In the same vein, if you're in a romantic relationship with a woman but isn't interested in getting in a serious relationship with her you should be proactive in disclosing it, just like she should be pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:07 PM
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Just be honest. lol I not interested in serious relationships so whenever the topic comes up on a date I make it clear. Most women I've hooked up in the last year became good acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:55 PM
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Disgusting Billy Beta, marrying post-wall females. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:45 PM
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Yes, and their looks or whatever you consider "SMV" aren't the way to define who is who. Assortative mating is backed by research but that doesn't mean any man who's her "equivalent" will not pump and dump her, just like her getting it on with a dude "above" her doesn't mean he will pump and dump her. Much like every single person in the world does, women look for the best options available and nothing that you said shows what's the problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:40 AM
0

Can you enlighten me as to how one thing has to do with the other? If she goes for a dude about their weight in the SMP they won't be used like a dirty sports sock? Because average men don't look for casual sex and don't pump and dump? Is that your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:05 AM
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How is that any worse than: casually fucking average guys and hoping one offers some kind of commitment eventually? I frankly don't get what's the fuzz about women picking hot dudes. Men always go for the hot women. When we don't go for the hot women? When we can't get the hot women. The first thing I notice in a woman? If she's hot or not. If I don't consider her hot she has to go through a looot of hoops just for me to consider her an option. The fact that men find most women hot, or not, is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:52 AM
3

Because he thought the dude looked like a CHAD Alpha 3.0. So it'd ruin his world view to discover that that dude could have something bad enough to offset his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:44 AM
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That’s the most annoying part of TRP for me. How a few men feel like they can project their experiences to the whole genre. No dude, being ignored through your whole 20’s isn’t the norm, most people have active social lives and do just fine. No dude, being seen as a wallet isn’t the norm. While men statistically still outearn women, most couples need to have both carrying some weight in order to survive in the current capitalist world. Divorces happen because of money? Certainly. Because having …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:00 PM
1

Should’ve worried about it 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:29 AM
1

lol For real dude, go touch grass. While you’re out there look around and check most men: Are they all in shape, rich, have good game, status, networking? But at least 70% of them have sex somewhat frequently or are in relationships. Is it really this herculean task to be dateable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 07:06 PM
2

It really sounds like dating men would be a nice change of pace for you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:59 PM
3

Nah you didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:15 PM
3

And you never addressed anything she said? Just said it must be false because it doesn’t conform to your perception of wlw relationships. lol Have you ever dated women? Are you bi? It really sounds like you’re judging her experience through an archetypal lens that simply ignores reality. Your second and third paragraphs are filled with “assumed”,”expected”,”typically” and certainly there are many expectations in engaging in a “non-conventional” relationship but this doesn’t mean they’re usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:58 PM
3

This resonates so much with what I’ve seen from my friend(a lesbian). When she’s single she can basically get any girl when we go out, we live in an EXTREMELY liberal touristic city and going out with her feels like going out with the mythical CHAD men here like to whine about.(but she’s also hot as fuck in a kind of androgynous way) Otoh most of her flings are bi girls who are “experimenting” and most of her LTR with women were extremely toxic. Now she’s in a cool relationship with a cool girl,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:21 PM
3

Probably because most bi women started out as straight, so their first experiences are fueled by frustration with males. In my, also anecdotal, experience what you described pertains mostly to lesbians who were in straight relationships previously. My best friend was married for 10y to a dude, but now she’s basically disgusted by penises. Since she started having LTR with women she never even hooked up with a men, so I’d not say she’s bi. Among the women I know who actively date men and women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:14 PM
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You’re getting rustled over nothing. Everything you’re describing isn’t the “average male experience”. Men get off easier and that’s something most men easily agree with. If you don’t get off easy, that’s you, not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:45 PM
11

That’s the best way to define dating a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:35 PM
17

Except that no one’s laser focusing on the good…? You’re the one ignoring everything else about men’s dating life just to argue that “dating also sucks for women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:30 PM
2

Gotta have a valve for all the stuff he thinks that his wife would condemn him for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:02 PM
0

Isn’t that how it works here? A woman does something batshit crazy REEEEE WOMEN BAD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:33 PM
1

Yes it is. But overall, isn't it pointless to argue about male dating struggles with anyone? What do you get from people(men) who are familiar with your issues? What do you get from people(men) who aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:25 AM
1

Really sounds like you’re only confirming what OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:52 AM
40

Quite the presumption lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:04 AM
1

Not aware of him, what's the goal here?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 04:15 AM
12

Gay people literally don’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:52 PM
0

Would you rather be happier not knowing about other options or less happy knowing what the other options are? I don't think it's one or another, I just think it's a frame of reference that only serves for a specific subset of people. If that’s not what you want then use whatever metrics make your life better. Exactly. I don't think marriage is the best way to gauge happiness on a general note simply because nowadays there's a significant portion of the population who doesn't really have marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:42 AM
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Why should we care about being in a marriage? I think it’s half expected that socially conservative people would be happier in a socially conservative institution such as marriage and consequently happier than people in general, as that’s basically fulfilling a lifelong goal. Now why would it be a useful metric if we don’t value this sense of belonging the same way? As the other person said: that just means "people who are not religious and who have a lot of life experience do not value commitme…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:18 PM
10

Probably most men are lying and the women can’t gauge it. At +7.5in you’re bigger than 80-85% of the men in the world. Perhaps you’re exposed to a very niche group because you cater to social groups where this type of info is readily available? In most environments people won’t really know the size of the others. lol In regards to knowing what women can take or not, just anecdotal experience is often more than enough. I’m roughly 6.5”, had sex with quite a few women(30<n<50 I’d say) and I’d say …
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 08:20 PM
4

Lmao that’s depressing. How much dick girth you lost already from having sex? That’s how it works, isn’t it Mr.Doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:49 PM
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No, because unlike you unexperienced guys tend to think, “standards” aren’t monolithic. A person with a lot of experience has a better grasp of what they like/dislike instead of just accepting anything thrown at them as acceptable. And the same applies to men, surprisingly. Being a dude with a high N-count means I know exactly what I want in sex from a woman instead of just falling head over heels for any cute lad who opens her legs and let me put my dick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:48 PM
2

You sound like you don’t know much about anatomy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:44 PM
18

Either you’re surrounded by size queens or these women simply don’t know what is 9in on a dick. lol The vast majority of women simply can’t handle a 9in dick, specially if its girth is proportional
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 05:51 PM
2

How common can jt possibly be? You’re already a hung dude, is it part of your presentation to declare how big you are? If your lady leaves you for a bigger dude is it really because of how big he is? Wouldn’t he need to go through a lot of hoops before his size is even a relevant aspect? That’s what always seemed crazy for me in regards to this concerns about dick size. It’s literally the last thing a woman will discover about a man she’s casually hooking up with.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 05:49 PM
4

Not the other person, but it makes sense. Attraction is a floor, not a ceiling. Even the highest value men and women with the most options end up with "not the best" options all the time simply due to circumstances. If two men fit the bill but one went to the bathroom and the other made a move on you, it deosn't really matter who's the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:51 AM
3

This sounds like that being seen as the stability guy comes at the cost of being someone she is actually attracted to. It doesn't, but people here can't propose anything that isn't a fallacious dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:42 AM
1

Too much theorycrafting, not enough touching the grass
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:49 PM
13

Wait, so you mean to tell me a group of millions/billions of people whose only similarity is their gender isn’t some sort of monolithic entity? That sounds like a hot take around these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:43 PM
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I'm sorry but he's already deep into the rabbit hole, the only reason he's moderate about it is because he has to put an act in front of you. Men are supposed to grow out of this angst rhetoric FF disseminates, if he's doing the opposite you really don't want to be anywhere close when he decides to come out of the closet.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/22 08:16 PM
7

You're the one saying women "are always open" or that "women spend their entire day thinking about getting dick". Here's what he said, word by word: Those rules are in place to make things more convenient for women who don’t want to be bothered by men whom they aren’t attracted to. Literally nothing suggesting what you implied. What he said is that these social norms are only there to keep women from being approached by men they're not attracted to. It doesn't mean you'll "entertain" every hot d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:07 PM
21

How did you get any of that from what he said? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:54 PM
13

I think the potential is greater for men within their own weight class. I mean, the potential is always greater for men willing to date women the same weight as them. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:08 AM
1

No they don't. It's just that for most men getting over 30 is the only moment in their lives where they feel like they're being dealt a fair hand in terms of dating. With established careers and more life experience they're finally ready to pick and choose instead of acting like beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:06 AM
1

What
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:44 AM
1

??? Do you expect random men to care about you just because? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:33 AM
0

So I take that ignoring the fact presented means you agree marriage at a young age or with a large age gap also hurt men as a group?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:23 PM
1

Idc about other men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:22 PM
-1

Nah you’re just being as alarmist as these dudes are when they say western society is doomed because women can choose their partners now. Just let them screw themselves into misery
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 02:09 AM
8

That’s not how wages work. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:55 PM
15

Changing diapers and cleaning the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:51 PM
0

Exactly. But I can already see the knee jerk reaction in this sub because “economy is math, don’t mix it with your leftist social studies”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:48 PM
11

literally bros before hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:45 PM
4

That’s the furthest I’ve seem someone here go in order to avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:21 PM
22

That’s the snowball effect. The more people you know the more events there is. If you know jsut a few people and the only thing you guys do is something exclusive(just among yourselves) there’s nowhere to go from this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:20 PM
4

If swiping left is being is rejected, not noticing you in a public setting or not staring at you is also being rejected. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:18 PM
4

You’re a doctor. Why the fuck are you on Tinder? Just check out your peers. You’ll mostly find low hanging fruits or men who just want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:20 AM
0

amem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:56 PM
3

The standard deviation from the TBEE is +/- 200kcal. If you’re an extreme outlier you’d be somewhere in the 2400-2600kcal range. You’re either overestimating how much you eat or underestimating how much activity you do. Thermodynamics have no wiggle room and the math is as easy as it gets. If you were eating 3000kcal on a daily basis as a 175lbs dude who only works out 1h/daily you’d get bigger, be it muscle or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:26 PM
1

/u/DocGlabella Read the sidebar, read the sticked post. Arguing semantics is just silly, frankly. So XX_Chromosome isn’t a sub about genetics? And as I said, if these guys are posting it the goal of former red pills is to challenge it within the frame of TRP rhetoric. Have you ever heard of a racist who changed his views by “tough love”? I know many cases of the opposite, tho. It’s also kinda dishonest to argue that everybody who isn’t calling these dudes sickos is just agreeing with them, maybe…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 09:08 PM
1

I stopped being active on this sub a while ago, but sure I can 100% find comments like this, just let me get home.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:59 PM
1

Of course some people here are ex red pill, they’re just, somehow instantaneously aware of their role in this sub. Which is to help TRP dudes who end up here go the right way. But between TRP dudes creating posts and the increasing number of “binge redditors” who just got bored of /r/relationship ‘s fanfics, it’s hard to notice us. Yeah, this isn’t a sub about happy endings, because the final goal isn’t a happy ending, it’s just functioning like a regular person. This isn’t a sub where you’ll re…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:57 PM
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That’s literally the point of OP. lol You guys basically raided the sub and repurposed it as some place to dunk on red pill dudes while jerking each other. It literally became a place for binge redditors to dunk on socially awkward dudes trying to get out of TRP. “But every post is one of a Red Pill dude” Of course. That’s the whole point of the sub, or at least it was, to help these guys deconstruct these ideas. Just ask yourself the following question: If everyone in the sub though exactly jus…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:52 PM
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Huh…isn’t it obvious? These people don’t seem particularly “ex” because most of their thoughts in regards to social interactions with women were molded by TRP rhetoric. The fact that TRP doesn’t work for them is merely a wake up call. From this point onwards they can detox or go all the way blackpill. If they’re here, it’s clear which path they took. What leads us to the role every participant of this sub has. If you have no patience to deal with people who were heavily influenced by TRP; If you…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:46 PM
9

That makes sense, but is it really crazy to expect this sub to be held to its basic premise? From the sidebar: For those who want to share their TRP experience or get healthy dating advice Coming here to spit hatred or have zero empathy helps the sub’s mission in what way? It’s got to a point where there’s not even discussions, vitriolic comments are upvoted, comments influenced by TRP are downvoted into oblivion and just used as easy targets. I’ve been “out” of TRP for almost a decade but it’s …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:31 PM
2

Agreed but would you mind explaining me how exactly being way too lefty is necessarily the direct opposite of conservative values? There are plenty of lefties that are conservative, and it’s a well known fact that many orthodox marxists see the liberal discourse as capitalism smokescreens to the real systemic issues, what’s in most cases quite accurate as most people in the liberal spectrum just want a “good guy capitalism”. you’d be surprised to know that there are actually quite a few lefties …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:25 PM
0

So you’ve never been RP, you can’t bring yourself to understand how anyone beyond a shy 14yo could fall into that hole and you think that if one does there’s no coming back, what sort of insight you have to provide that goes beyond the surface level in a sub called /exredpill?
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 01:03 PM
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Don’t you think stricter rules could solve it? At least some stricter civility rule. lol If one’s too hurt to talk about TRP and how it ensnares people by addressing what it gets right, or at least pretends to, they have literally nothing to add to the discussion here.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 12:59 PM
0

That’s true. I stopped participating in the threads here, even though I’m literally an ex-TRP, exactly because most threads became a circlejerk of people who were never into these groups circlejerking about their righteous ways. For most TRP man who end up here, check /r/menslib , it may be waaaaay too lefty for most of you but at least people over there will have more experience in these issues than the kind of person that seems to be the majority in this sub nowadays.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 12:55 PM
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I read too many books so they're information will be common sense to me so nah. The thing about therapy isn't adding new info per se, but helping you see some things you can't see clearly because you obviously have your own biases in regards to your own life. You can think of yourself as Mr.Stoic-Analytic but your emotions do exist and they do factor in the decisions you make, going to therapy may help you confront some perspectives you just deem "normal" because that's just how you see everythi…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/22 03:01 PM
3

The whole point of the OP is exactly that men are doing what works and that on a macro level this reward system is what causes men to have behavior deemed “undesirable” by women, at least explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:47 PM
7

Obvious bad faith is obvious but let’s hope he can humor you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:28 PM
6

Damn, really fishing for something, huh? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:26 PM
3

Whatever gets him laid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:59 AM
14

Or maybe it’s just that a pill debate sub has more pillers than FDS chicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:57 PM
6

Everything is a numbers game if you think about it in the sense that things have a higher chance of happening to you if you put yourself out there.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/22 10:41 AM
5

I hope 1979 isn't the year you were born if you think this "rant" is anything more than an ad with the purpose of validating her target demographic's complaints. lmfao Talk about being gullible. What a coincidence that this neo-PUA coach is telling exactly what her potential male clients want to hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:36 PM
0

Because this situation leaves men perpetually insecure not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:31 PM
7

Not to mention they literally live off of their looks.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 10:21 PM
1

Bit you don’t understand, he traveled to places. There’s no stronger argument in the realm of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:12 PM
1

There’s literally nothing the number rating system does that saying attractive/unattractive/average doesn’t achieve while also carrying the inherent subjectivity of any sort of “attractiveness score”. All I ever saw it accomplish was give black pillers a looooooot of shit to theorycraft about in their basements. There’s a waffle dude on youtube that’s just sad. How deep he goes to “prove” why he can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:08 PM
2

“But I have a six figure job! If we were back in the good ol’ days I’d be able to buy a miserable wife to put my dick in!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:04 PM
16

I mean, they talked all night. They're literally soulmates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:40 PM
3

wow this sounds alarming, things really got out of control
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:39 PM
2

Typical PPD debate. One person: Proper arguments, sources. Other person: No U wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:00 PM
4

Do you freak out if your SO speaks with other men? What if she sucks their dick? I’m amazed by how you can’t see how unfitting your example is to the point you presented beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:00 AM
3

It's all because of a very narrow perspective on the matter. Most men who think this way in this sub are: Sexless or basically sexless so they can only conjecture; Can get laid frequently after they've improved themselves but their foundational beliefs are still those that his value is defined by how much pussy he can get, so he fucks literally anything he can touch. For most men, and that goes from the average dude to the UBER CHAD, who developed their sexual experiences organically, there's si…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:07 PM
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Well, if they don’t want them are they really being left out? Also I must say that as an average dude I’ve never lived through this stuff you guys love to talk about, that women in their 20’s only hook up with Chads and ignore their “looksmatch”. Yeah, below average women may have an easier time than below average men if they’re slutty and the dudes are introverts, but for the vast majority of people, everybody dates in their league. I’ve also never seen these chad types you seem to know off tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:40 PM
3

Have you ever…tried? Or is it all you got from reading PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:35 PM
2

So you’d fuck literally any women in the world if it meant you could fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:29 PM
4

Okay…still refuted?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:27 PM
6

Who’s making you wait? lol It really makes it sound like you’re orbiting around women waiting for them to turn 30 so that you can have a shot. That’s literally not how life works for most people. Whatever dude she dated in her Uni days isn’t better than you simply because you deemed her more valuable back then. It’s not a given that women sleep around with the “best guys” and “end up with you”. Some women settle? Sure. But what’s the issue? Virtually all men settle for what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:33 AM
5

It’s exactly the same phenomenon as women saying most men only want sex. Yeah, most men they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:24 PM
1

So lie detectors are bullshit anyway or an evidence that women were lying? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:22 PM
1

Because both ways oppose their narrative. People lie? Obviously, but in big enough numbers the significance tends to be close to nil simply because there’s enough data points to normalize anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:18 PM
11

Dating 7 dudes is a lot? Wtf hahaaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:52 PM
1

Reason #2 A lot of these preferences are really their own insecurities clouding their judgement. A lot of women don’t want the expectations they THINK will arise from dating a a guy with aesthetic body therefore they avoid them and go for someone they are less physically/sexually attracted to. THIS SO MUCH. I've actually had my last relationship gone south due to lingering insecurities in regards to it.(It wasn't the final reason but it was a very present one) Most women I've met with "peculiar"…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:32 AM
7

lol at first I thought his first reply was a copy pasta. He’s for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:10 AM
11

Okay…? If paying for shit is what you bring to the table in order to be “competitive”, let’s just hope you’re never expecting something deeper than transactional in a relationship. If she finds someone better, better for her. lol I don’t like the term but it sounds like beta bucks mentality at its finest. It’s a first date, what exactly are you losing? It really feels like a recent post here was spot on in the fact that it truly sounds like most guys here care more about “winning the competition…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:06 AM
1

And that's about as fair as it gets. As long as you understand the risk and you're willing to take it I think you're 100% correct in your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:22 PM
0

This is an extension of my previous post. obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:18 PM
2

No I’m not the 16yo girl but it’s quite telling that literally all you have to say about her point is that she’s too young. Once again, are you being dense on purpose? It’s obvious to anyone who has the bare minimum of social interactions as a functional adult that you’ll have a longer/closer relationship with a SO who met the present you and has been with you for some time than a HS sweetheart you dated a decade ago and probably rarely ever met out of pure chance meetings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:24 PM
1

Are you being dense on purpose? Who do you have a longer relationship with, a hypothetical 5yr SO or a person you’ve hooked up with when you were in high school? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:08 PM
0

Everybody's preference is valid and every point made in this sub in regards to women's standards are moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:32 PM
2

That’s fair enough, now under a different point of view: Do you think having sex with one different person every 6 months is a lot, to the point of requiring a certain mind set/behavior? That’s basically what it takes for someone in their late 20’s to get into your 😬 levels. I’m a dude who never stays single for long, so me having a high body count means I’m chasing it hard when I’m single. OTOH if a dude never got into a LTR, it’s totally acceptable that he’d manage to have sex with 3-4 differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:33 PM
-1

Agree. But the issue is that these are low N men by accident, not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:18 PM
2

What’s a high body count for you? Because for most standards presented here it really requires almost nothing to have one. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:15 PM
27

That just sounds like a you problem being projected onto someone else. While in a relationship there’s always a baseline of affective responsibility, you can’t reasonably expect your partners to clear out your internal issues, as this terrifying level of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:11 PM
0

Well, certainly no one can keep them from living their lives the way they want to. The point OP makes is that if their thing is the competition, all the rhetoric about society yadayada is pure bullshit. In other words, most of these “competitors” wouldn’t care about any of the “issues” they often bring up if they hadn’t drawn the short stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:54 PM
3

I kinda agree. Man that just use women to smash don’t care. But most men here are just men who “wanted to be able to just smash” but aren’t. Hence all the frustration and complaints about unfairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:52 PM
0

Perfect analogy, in regards to the goal. Sadly for some, women aren’t basic commodities to be socialized. Life is unfair and if most dudes can’t compete, tough luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:50 PM
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Except when they met him. Then they want these women to go out of control due to how special and unique he is, to the point of forgetting who she is and having sex with him right after the first date! Idk how many of you guys here are into anime but it truly feels like quite a lot, as most guys’ complaints here are basically that they’re not the self insert main character of a harem anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:47 PM
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Do you also think it’s telling that most TRP boards have infinitely more topics shit talking women or sharing manipulative dating strategies rather than all the self improvement you guys preach TRP is all about? And that’s obvious. Both groups are filled with frustrated people, it’s a given that most of what’s being said in both is shitty tactics or hatred seeping through.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:48 PM
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2008 financial crisis, Snowden story, and general income inequality. All consequences of a doomed system, perhaps, but the world didn't end when we parted ways with mercantilism or previously with feudalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:34 AM
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Yes, but the world didn't come to an end and we're unarguably in a much better position than back then. Yeah, and you'll probably have even greater issues with the generations to come when you're older because the world is in a downward spiral! Just like every aging person used to say since, well, Socrates at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:32 AM
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“Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.” This quote is 2.4 thousand years old. From a dude who, if he existed, probably thought making love with a woman was despicable as true companionship is something that can only be found in the arms of your buddy. Nothing is doomed, you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:28 AM
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Doesn't the same apply to whoever you end up with? Man rarely ever end up with their first pick, regardless of the fact that it isn't up to them to make the call. Do you think someone being with you just because they were rejected by everyone else they picked before you is any better? I can't find an ounce of rationality in this "THE CHOSEN ONE" mentality. It's just immature to a point I can't even understand how you get to this sort of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:56 AM
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They're just using a different manipulation tactic to try getting pussy. Some pay PUA coaches and dive headfirst into TRP bullshit, some become marxists and pray for some pussy crumbles. All pathetic in the end. Alas, he/she's not saying you being a misogynist won't get you pussy, just highlighting something that should normally be perceived as a bad trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:53 AM
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based. I often wonder where do these guys live, where men turn into boyfriends without hooking up first. If you're actual boyfriend material, you're probably getting a hefty amount of sex just by looking for The One.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:48 AM
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Where this dichotomy comes from? If you acknowledge that women in general want relationships there's no easier way to get sex than to signal you're a good pick for a relationship. From this point onwards it's all about honesty and being upfront. I've spent the majority of my life in relationships and whenever I'm single I fuck around a lot, it just gets old very fast, specially as you get older and have other priorities in your life than having your existence validated by random women. There's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:45 AM
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However, the solution here is what a lot of guys do, myself included: never be 'just friends' with a woman. Waste of time, mostly. Acquaintance, sure, but like...good close friend? Maybe if from childhood or some kind of exceptional bond. 99.9% agree. I don't think being "just friends" with women is a waste of time, but I do believe that there's always got to be a certain distance, an acknowledgement of your sexuality. When a woman sees you as a "good close friend", she probably sees you just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:01 AM
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Because they have a Disney-esque perception of what relationships should be like and their financial freedom means there's literally no practical reason for them to compromise in any of their views about how their ideal relationship should look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:31 AM
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Moving goalpost much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:36 AM
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In what way? That’s like saying food stamps incentivizes people to be so poor to the point of not being able to eat. By virtually any metric being a single mother is the worst possible outcome for a woman financially. It’s not a few hundred bucks a month that make woman go “Hey, maybe being a single mother isn’t that bad”. lol Do you have a kid? How much do you spend to cover the bare minimum? How much is paid in welfare to single mothers in your country?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:26 PM
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Both parties want them in same amounts except men do have to do the approaching I'll grant you that. And that's where the issue stems from. Women are by all metrics in equal footing to men. But they still abide to sexist paternalistic social interactions where the man has to be the one engagin. The man has to approach, the man has to call her on a date, the man has to ask to marry her and the list goes on. Even if you're splitting the bill, there's still a proactivity expected of the man in ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:54 AM
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If male unemployment and living with parents were drivers, then gainfully employed men with their own place would have high SMV. But they do? The issue is that unlike most guys here who just wnat a hole to put their dicks on, educated men usually look after educated women, even if it's just for something casual, due to social circles and common interests. And once again, the demand is reduced below the offer, just as your initial job example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:28 AM
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I read that 18% of young women reported no sex compared to 28% of young men. That stat literally reversed in the last report
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:27 AM
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Doesn't matter as long as there's an obvious surplus of men looking for sex/relationship. Following his analogy, it's like saying "Hey, but even though there are 300 job seekers, there 100 that aren't looking for a job." The 100 job openings are still the limiting factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:14 AM
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Can't really disagree with it. Perfectly fine argument that ends in the exact right point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:13 AM
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You’re right, but you can break up to satisfy your hunger. That’s the point. You can’t just reduce cheating to dead bedrooms scenarios, specially because in such extreme cases the cheating is pretty much just the last straw that breaks the camels back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:54 PM
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And of course intellectual dishonesty is par for the course when dealing with TRP. No surprises here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:52 PM
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Wtf you talking about FnF talks about how “high value” they are all the time Yeah, they don’t call themselves alpha, they just use themselves as examples for every case of “what would a superior male do” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:09 PM
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And I’ve known women who were attracted to midgets, do you understand how statistics work?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:29 PM
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Cause I’m concerned with the men on here I don’t even disagree with, but lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:39 PM
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Stop using these bullshit terms. lol He’s just more famous and more valuable to this other dude than the other way around. He gets a platform to spread hjs work, the TRP dude gets someone with name recognition on his channel
/r/ExRedPill09/02/22 04:41 PM
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I agree. Doesn’t mean that isn’t what’s done in this specific case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:54 PM
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The blue pill is the default because that’s the allegory TRP “creators” used to define those who don’t share their view of the world. It’s literally impossible for the blue pill to be anything if it’s original meaning is to literally live clueless in the Matrix. lol In real life the blue pill doesn’t exist, it’s merely a strawmen to set “those who chose to see the truth” apart from the rest. Just your typical circlejerk fantasy. Or do you really think self improvement and being aware of social a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:15 PM
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That makes no sense. lol Every single research on the matter shows that the most promiscuous people tend to be the most sexually active and hook up with the most promiscuous people. The caveat? Couples are still by and large the group with greater sexual frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:06 AM
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Exactly. lol I always do the math and it’s always the same: Extremely obvious how most guys here are just hypocrites virtue signaling. Meanwhile these same dudes fantasize of being Chad sleeping with a different girl every weekend, or spinning god knows how many “plates”. But if a lady had sex with 4 dudes/yr? Complete slut. What’s appalling is that this language is so normalized here that there’s literally never action from the moderation against these dudes who simply refuse to write “woman/gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:03 AM
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Aren’t you special
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:18 PM
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They lined themselves up for this "gotcha" so I don't really care about using it to my advantage. How's that going for you so far? A lot of DMs? lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:01 AM
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I will not respond to any further appeal's to the subjective impact of an event. But that's the whole point of somethign that happened in the past bearing any significance into who you are today, pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:56 AM
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He is tired of being shamed and guilt tripped into relationships with women he finds undesirable I hate when I wake up in the morning and find myself into a relationship I didn't want to just because the person had traits I don't like(?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:47 AM
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So your 35yo self is literally the same as your 20yo self in regards to how you've grown emotionally, mentally and physically from all experiences in all those 15 years in between?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:45 AM
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Just like there's never a 0% correlation between chocolate consumption and the odds of winning a Nobel prize. The overarching point is that one's previous sexual experiences often isn't the determining factor in a current relationship and can easily be applied to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:44 AM
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If you see her as a thing, not as someone to whom you may've developed an emotional attachment to. Having options doesn't mean you're always browsing and that's basically how it most normal relationships work. It's what you don't do when you can that defines loyalty and that obviously goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:42 AM
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Right, because some random idiot says it, it must represent everyone. Typical. Extrapolating bad experiences into a whole population is literally the foundation of TRP rhetoric but yeah, I'm the Don Quixote. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:38 AM
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Nothing beyond "No true scotsman", typical. Sounds like you're describing feminism. Potayto potahto
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:30 AM
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Nope. It's just that any talk of reciprocity, partnership, or transactions quickly gets the peanut gallery up in a huff with claims of 'entitlement'. Sure buddy. "My GF did anal with her ex but won't do it to me! Where's the reciprocity and partnership in doing something that hurt her and that she disliekd if I want to do it? If I was a chad she'd be offering me her asshole in a plate." But let me guess, you'll just dismiss it as something completely unrelated to TRP and the logic it instills in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:50 AM
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Can't see how one precludes the other. There are many men here who say explicitly that they're entitled to a lot of shit from women. It's a common argument here that if a lady did something with her previous partner that you(the current) is entitled to do it regardless of her disliking it or not. There's also a very common argument thrown around here that women's sexual freedom should be restrained to tackle the issue of male sexlessness in a systemic manner. There's a lot of crazy shit being ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:07 PM
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Here's the thing, tho. You're in a sub with a higher than average population of mentally deranged dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:59 PM
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You go dish him the truth, dude on the internet! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:54 PM
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Conversely I always find it amusing how very few men here “aren’t” HVM hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:53 AM
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Well, do tell me: what’s the difference? What are the objective aspects that determine one’s value? It’s this basic premise that allows TRP people to feel righteous about the most heinous acts. “A HMV can cheat because he’s high value”
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 04:27 PM
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Please, let's not allow TRP trash vocabulary to seep out of their cesspits. This notion of LVM/LVW~HVM/HVW as if people's "value" is determined by one standardized metric is stupid. RP tactics aren't a for sure way to bag "low quality women", whatever the fuck you think that is, they're a way to bag ANY women. The issue is simply that it "bags" women through manipulative behavior that lacks empathy and sees the other as just the means to sexual gratification. Or do you really think there's a cut…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 04:09 PM
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Am I missing something? What makes any of these kids unsuitable for proper study?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:44 PM
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If you're at a point where you're min/maxing to get pussy, playing LOL probably doesn't hurt anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:44 AM
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water is wet. water being wet is a privilege because it's not dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:43 AM
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Are you really implying his ex’s cheating on him is somehow his fault? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:11 AM
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Tell me you don’t read the methodology without telling me you don’t read the methodology. The definition of sexlessness is always the same in these researches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:44 PM
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LOL can’t use the most recent data that refutes your argument. Noted. That’s the level of honesty in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:14 PM
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Look again at your data. The data of 2020 showed more sexless women than men. It was posted jn this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:11 PM
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lol the average male american weighs 200lbs is 5’9” and has a 40in waist circumference. The average american tourist is literally seen as a walking wallet or plane ticket out of a third world country. You’re gloating over the ultimate beta bucks fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:04 AM
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Yeah but there’s 100 dudes DM’ing her so it literally doesn’t matter what she thinks of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:57 AM
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Yes, but that's the whole point, getting their dicks wet with whatever passes their beauty standard. TRP's conservative twist is just a make-up to set themselves apart from the liberal scum because in their worldview it's men that should be able to fuck around, not both men and women.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 11:44 PM
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Perfectly put. And that answers OP’s question: Women are attracted to men with high “body counts” because of the attributes they might have in order to have sex with many women. Why do we have to think about manipulation, abuse and shit like that when the dude might as well just be a cool dude who they get along with? And that paints the perfect contrast to what we all see in incel communities. Are these incel sexless because women know they’re incels or because their personalities push women aw…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 03:45 AM
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What’s a high N count for you? I really don’t get it, wouldn’t high body count man be the type most prone to having FWBs? How someone doesn’t develop a connection, care about the act or the pleasure of someone they’ve been having sex frequently over thr course of a few months? I 100% agree that sex with someone you love is the best sex, even if it isn’t the greatest. Emotions play a great role in sex, but there’s also a lot of physicality, obviously. You can definitely have a great sexual connec…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 03:35 AM
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Slightly awkward guys can also be assholes who only want to get their dicks wet. Difference is only that they’re often too afraid of never having sex again so they commit to a relationship just for the sake of it.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 03:35 AM
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Or maybe no one talks about N count in any casual scenario? lol I really don’t know what’s up with the knee jerk reactions and strawmen factory going on here. I’m a man with a moderate/high N count and frankly I can’t even fathom why you people project all this crazy stuff on people who just have casual sex. I love sex. If I can’t meet Mrs.kblkbl165 to have some intimate lovey dovey sex? I’ll have fun looking out for her. Have you ever done the math? If a dude is single from 18-28, and he has se…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 03:33 AM
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"They're settling for your beta bucks after throwing the youth away with Chads." There's no convincing someone who's deep into TRP. It's pure circular logic, there's no win. I feel like TRP is the ultimate cuck fantasy. If Chad isn't coming for your girl, it's because he already got her before you. hahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:32 PM
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Yeah but those who don’t pay get it for free because there’s not much convincing left, whereas with the average dude he’s still going through obstacles. They don’t fuck because they don’t simp, they don’t need to simp because the women are already 99,9% on board fucking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:13 AM
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Pill ideologies don’t work in the real world anyways. Denial doesn't serve any purpose in deconstructing toxic behavior. Pill ideologies do work, to some extent, just like there are some aspects that can be used to seek positive results.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/22 03:14 AM
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That’s how they handle their failures
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:29 PM
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Seems more likely he'll just snatch someone out of one. hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:53 PM
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I swear this sub sometimes feel like r/im14andthisisdeep Like, can you name one aspect of life that can’t be split into these 3 “ways”? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:00 AM
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You know you found one who's too deep into this shit when he talks in absolute terms. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:16 PM
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Nothing you said refutes what he said. The point being made is that being viewed as dominant and attractive depend on the environment you're in. The "alpha" musician of his social circle would probably be a complete beta in a locker room, just like the alpha jock would be a beta in the MtG tournament or whatever nerds do to reunite nowadays. There isn't one definitive "rank" to climb and there'll always exist people who are better than you at something, commanding more dominance/authority in a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:12 PM
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Yes, because the association is taken for granted. Otherwise it’d make no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:18 PM
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Of course it’s subjective, the point is that it’s subjective. If everyone was equal it wouldn’t be. One easy one? Would you give it to a bright young scientist in her 20’s or to a senile lady in her 80’s? Or would you just leave it to chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:06 PM
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The whole point of “soy” in soyboy is the myth that consuming soy makes men effeminate. The bit about TRT prolly comes from his experience as a dude in his 40’s who prolly talks mostly to dudes in their 40’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:04 PM
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Only TRP is an ideology, TBP is anything TRP sees as the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:50 PM
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Because everyone isn’t equal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:49 PM
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That soy boy is the regular insult but many people who use it are on TRT due to bad eating habits, associated with the “carb scare” that compound onto other factors related to aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:48 PM
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Been there done that, no thanks. Issue isnt even attraction or feelings, I loved my ex. But, Im fit. Weightlifting was/is my hobby and became my business. Physical activities are part of my life, and not only as a chore, I love to do what I do, to try new shit and to live around these things. My ex not only did workout just out of obligation, for a while, but hated it. Your SO has a lot of influence over you. But it’s easy for someone who doesn’t like working out to deny training or going for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:39 PM
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What aspect of her being a good woman implies starfish sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:17 PM
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That's a bit arrogant Par for the course if someone is deep into TRP beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:01 PM
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The guy I know who got the most interest was very attractive but also very nice and kinda shy But these guys dissolve the whole narrative subs like this one rely upon (TRP rhetoric of ultra competitiveness) so their existence isn't considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:58 PM
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I really don't think you can extrapolate the group of people who seriously uses the term "simp" and equal it to Society. In any case, the issue here is the frame of reference to evaluate good or bad actions. Who's the typical fella who calls someone a simp? Someone, like a shit ton of dudes in this sub, who derive their value by their ability to get sex from straight women. If that's not your moral standard, it shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:56 PM
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even the warm fuzzy feelings internally Of course there is, as that's introspective and comes 100% from the person. It still feels good to do good for others if that's what makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:49 PM
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When wasn't it like this? When people used to to good things in order to go to heaven? In the end it always boils down to self-serving reasons, doesn't matter if it's material rewards or jerking yourself off mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:43 PM
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It's almost as if both genders can be manipulated by shitty people!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:39 PM
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Sex is easier to obtain for women, relationships are easier to obtain for men. Question for you guys with the answers: In most modern relationships sex predates relationships. How exactly are relationships easier to obtain for men? lol The guy can't get sex but he can get a girlfriend? That makes no sense. A relationship presumes sex. If a guy can get a girlfriend he can get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:29 AM
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Who cares if there are more attractive dudes, what’s your point? That as long as you’re not literally the hottest dude in a bar/club, you can’t get an attractive woman? As long as you show intent there’s no such thing as “just a funny guy to drink with” because you can always read the mood and get out. If she isn’t being receptive or just being friendly and politely defusing your escalations, just move on. It’s the “friendzone” argument all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:09 AM
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Yeah, but will they? I really don’t understand your point. “Chad” isn’t always there to steal your girl. You talk as if “more attractive dudes” are these ominous entities that roam around you and hijack your ONS just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:06 PM
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You definitely sound like a fella with no hatred toward women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:42 PM
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According to this sub it all comes down to one thing: what was the N count of his lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:33 PM
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At this point isn't it cheaper to just keep dealing with escorts? lol You're literally negotiating someone into financial dependence just to have a warm body beside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:57 PM
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Again, i think this is gender neutral, and ties into the protection of authority, rather then one's sex. Yes, and most men want a partner that's submissive while most western cultures also develop around this notion of male authority. Regardless of what PPD thinks feminism did to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:26 AM
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There's no nuance being missed in the context of his comment. Saying having an opinion on everything is a bad thing is kinda crazy. What do you even talk about with your male friends? Don't you guys have opinions over the most random shit? Why your partner shouldn't have opinions over random shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:21 AM
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If men were exposed to quiet, kind, intelligent women, and that was the typical encounter that men would face, no man would be complaining about intelligent women, at least that's the rates that they currently are. Because what you're saying is that women should basically abdicate of part of their personality for the sake of "agreeableness". Just think of a smart male friend you have, assuming you're smart yourself. You guys probably have some "competitive" interactions and your best conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:16 AM
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It's clear he's arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:55 AM
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This one is a good one, and basically anything in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:21 AM
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Solve the problem by limiting women's rights. what the actual fuck lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:16 AM
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Wait, but aren't all women fucking only chads? How did this average dude get a...HOOKUP? :O
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:12 AM
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Lmao the level of equivalence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:12 PM
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lol if that's your definition of jacked I suppose you didn't watch any action movie in the last 60 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:37 PM
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ikr, what's up with these people citing statistics instead of just bringin up personal anecdotes? There's nothing faulty about bringing up averages, there isn't a shortage of old men, there's a shortage of old men with attractive characteristics hence the correlation with said attractive characteristics instead of their age. The average household income is around $75K. If a millionaire said 'A lot of women want to date me' would you respond with "The average household income does not support you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:00 PM
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If you think people perpetuate negativity towards ugly/fat women you have a delusional victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:31 PM
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if dude on the left is gay he’s 100% getting more ass than if he was straight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:17 AM
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Since they assume men's "peak" is in their 30's, for these exact reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:16 AM
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You don't have to outearn your partner for his money to not be enough to "buy you". The point is that these women have financial independence and can afford to be single while looking for someone who can offer more than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:09 AM
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Because women work and get their own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:47 PM
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Eh, I can probably overlook a woman who had casual sex one or two times with one of her friends in her social circle. Enough said, what exactly you expect anyone to say in this thread if that's your take on the subject? What's the point in asking questions in bad faith? lol Someone who is above you in either SMV or RMV depending on context. And who's exactly assessing these values? TRP? Blackpill? Based on what? I mean no shit. Like bars and clubs and parties exist. The dynamics are just way mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:33 PM
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Yes, the vast majority of sluts are low value. So women who engage in casual sex are sluts? We all know what a league is. Don't try to dance around the definition of leagues. No we don't, but I can definitely see how it's your MO to just admit your own premises to a debate. Nah, it's just that if a dude wants to get any of dating apps, he probably has to lower his standards pretty hard. The rest either get luck or give up and go home. I don't think your experiences are absolute and dating apps a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:50 PM
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Who is "they"? Women who engage in casual sex? So every single woman who engages in casual sex without the hopes of marrying the dude is low value? Talk about a strawwoman. lmfao In regards to being used, how much of it is being used if both parts know what they're getting out of it? In regards to "out of their league", in what sense? Your "objective" perception of male and female value? Their physical attractiveness? In regards to guys having zero standards, why? So every single guy who engages…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:39 PM
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I mean, your whole "message" is a personal attack to women who sleep around. You're not asking questions in good faith, you're just using them to develop your rhetoric that these women are low value and that they're being used by "Chad". That's just your personal, seemingly platonic, notion of sex, attraction and distaste for women who don't feel bad about having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:13 PM
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Lmfao sure buddy, college educated women with high paying jobs are all banking on welfare to ensure their autonomy instead of giving pussy to men who think they’re entitled to something because they’re barely functional adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:22 PM
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If you’re a cool guy you can be a virgin out of your own volition, that’s the notion you’re disagreeing with. Why? Because you can’t conceive someone putting no worries over losing their virginity. What do you think would happen in such circumstance? Women would rape this dude for being so cool? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:23 PM
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Hence the notion that 99% of men will bang anything that moves. A man can voluntarily be a virgin for cultural/priority reasons but it’s easy to understand why most of you can’t even fathom it. Hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:07 PM
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Not if you’re a cool guy. If you’re a “nice” guy, welp, that’s what’s drying’em up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:03 PM
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Because people assume there’s something wrong with you if you’re a virgin in your mid 20’s. And guess what? Literally the same applies to women. In regards to the insult, the reason is obvious: it’s where it hurts. It’s not what women value, it’s what you value. It’s why incels are an issue to society while femcels are basically ignored. Same with dick size. Of course women have their preferences about it, but no one cares about dick size more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:56 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:40 PM
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It’s a matter of recurrence, my friend. Having a 10% chance of failing in the SAT sounds amazong because it’s usually a one-off event. Having a 5% chance of dying because you rejected someone as a woman is a huge risk over a lifetime because you’re bound to reject a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:55 PM
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What do you mean? I even kiss them and let them know I think they're "fuckable". How am I not considering their pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:20 AM
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Here we have the answer. If these pudgy guys are above average now I get why most "average men" here are sexless. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:18 AM
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Just like most couples. lol 1 in every 2 marriages in the US end in divorce and the rate is probably even greater if you just consider LTR in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:45 AM
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Yes
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 01:38 AM
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...wat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:19 AM
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It certainly couldn't have anything to do with socioeconomic structural issues that make literally everybody unhappier nowadays. Right? It HAS TO BE because they're not obliged to cling onto some whatever dude who pays the bills. No other possible explanation. This sub loves to talk about the average dude. Let me tell you something: THe average dude can barely keep his head above the water currently. And you guys are here jerking off to having a tradwife baby making machine at home. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:18 AM
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Men who don't get laid have absolutely no idea how people actually end up in relationships. It's frankly amusing. Kinda like seeing kids theorycrafting how they were born without being aware of the existence of sex. I know literally zero couples who didn't start as something casual/sexual in the first place. Wait, I know one, highschool sweethearts who lost their virginity together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:53 AM
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That's just editorial bullshit Links dailymail as source Oh the doublethink lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:48 AM
2

It's just wishful thinking mixed with reverse psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:33 AM
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Its up to me to what I do with my penis too, but it doesn't give me the right to stick my penis inside every wild beast and expect their to be no bite back or consequences or society shaming me for that matter? Isn't the difference obvious? You need the consent of whatever you're putting your penis in. In the same vein a woman can't gobble whatever wild beast cock she wants to. It's assumed she can do it because most men are like wild beasts in this regards in the sense that they're up to fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:40 PM
1

On average the different is certainly negligible. The difference is when you think of Instagram you think of the insta-thot with 2M followers, but statistically she's insignificant. Her 2M followers OTOH...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:36 PM
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As someone else said in other thread. The issue with TRP and the discourse typically seem here isn't the one descriptive in nature, it's the one prescriptive. Understanding that women prefer handsomen men is common sense, it's an observation. The conclusions that stem from it...damn, that's where the shitshow starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:24 PM
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Whoever wants to. YOu can also outsource this chore if you're unable to attend to it. Historically, slavery was the norm for most of mankind's history. Historically, who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:22 PM
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No one said that? Just that it's up to her what she does with her vagina, not up to you. Seriously, I remember your username, I'm growing the ever more concerned about your mental state, seeing how your arguments evolved in this sub over a few weeks. How exactly do you intend to "keep women hypergamy in check"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:20 PM
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Yes it is because you're full of. Human race won't cease to exist. Yeah, some sexless dudes will have their lineage ended, so what? Do you really believe back in days where resources were scarcer that most men were getting it on? The whole history of humankind has been an hedonistic pursuit. And that's not a big deal, the only people who blame hedonism are those use "ethics" as subterfuge for their own selfish interest. Example: All these sexless dudes here saying "Think about the human race!" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:18 PM
0

Isn't reddit top3 most accessed sites in the US? That's like saying someone's not crying for "facebook girls" or "instagram girls". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:08 PM
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Sure there is. My 100% reason to be here is morbid curiosity and being baffled at how a normal experience such as mine can be offset by the amount of crazy shit I see here. I consider myself purple pill, even though this and blue pill are mere constructs around TRP theory, but it's frankly amusing how deep into the cope(shh don't tell the mods) most men here are. I'd say this sub boils down to 3 types of men: Regular men such as me who have no issues with "hookup culture" nor with having good re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:38 PM
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Lmao sounds like you got lost
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:24 PM
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But the point both of you miss is that following this logic, the “purpose” is never to provide people what they need, but to reassure people in power that they stay in power. It’s kinda insane how off topic this argument got and amusing how one can end in a tirade about “morality doesn’t matter” while saying someone is selfish in the first reply. This whole argument has nothing to do with his initial point that people are “selfish” for not giving themselves away to those in “need”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:20 PM
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Replace the congolese for any developing country with basic infrastructure and the affirmative's still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:58 AM
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One easy group of people to single out is to look at per person co2 production. The worst polluters and those that use the most resources can go first. But to put your head in the sand while this slow motion train wreck is approaching us when we could take steps to avert some of this is.... dumb. So most people in developed countries would be exterminated. sounds fun to me. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:52 AM
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It's not due to industrialization and urbanization. It's due to people being more educated and wealth being more and more concentrated. The baby boom was a result of massive industrialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:49 AM
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Must be hard being a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:14 PM
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Sure, but my point is that between Bezos and whatever you consider mediocre there’s more people than you’ll ever know in your life, to the point where knowing mediocre people is more impacted by the environment rather than the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:21 PM
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So you judge the whole genre by the very extreme end of the tail? Your logic is the same as saying most people in the US are attractive because you saw a Hollywood movie. Yes, most trailblazers are men but between being a multibillionaire CEO of a tech company and being uneducated there’s at least 20% of the population, regardless of gender. What probably means everybody you know if you’re upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:55 PM
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That’s not out of instinct, that’s out of perceiving who you got a chance with. lol That’s an adjustment. Settling for the less than women. If all men had a shot at attractive women like most women do with attractive men nobody here would care about “statistical averages”. In fact, no one cares. You don’t do it out of fairness to all the women out there, you do it to increase your odds at getting some haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:45 PM
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Because not everybody is equal? I keep wondering why you guys argue about fairness in relationships. lol It’s not about jumping hoops but eliciting a connection. If you’re not as sexy dude as another dude a woman probably needs to establish more intimacy with you before fucking you. What’s wrong with it? Add hypergamy to the mix? So you think women literally devote their lives to fucking? lol They don’t work? Don’t study? Don’t chill? Most sexless adults are actually sexless out of work/study co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:08 PM
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It’s not premarital sex if it’s anal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:59 AM
2

But you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:47 AM
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And you're wrong. Women are lying about this when they've done X with 10 other guys and loved it, then tell Dear Beta Bux that they've "changed" and they don't like X anymore. How do you verify this as a male in a relationship with said woman? No. What's going on is that they still love X; they just don't want to do X with Beta Bux because they're not attracted to him. How do you verify this as a male in a relationship with said woman? Or is your argument the affirmative that every single woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:44 AM
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Sure, but how exactly would you verify the "fact" that she doesn't do some sex stuff with you because she isn't attracted to you but also did it with everybody else because she was attracted to them? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, how would OP know any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:35 AM
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With hardly any chance of being verified, may I add. Sounds like the perfect thought experiment to rustle his own jimmies and get mad at this platonic woman who's with him, but isn't attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:32 AM
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I understand my man, what I'm saying is that it's not really an unusual standard and it doesn't matter in the end if it's backed up by good reasons if the act is common practice in their given location. Once something is socially acceptable, going deeper into the good reasons is meaningless. Hence the example of alcohol. If someone said they don't date people who drink you could reply in the exact same way. But you probably wouldn't because drinking is something so prevalent in most societies th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:55 AM
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So is drinking alcohol, all a matter of social standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:47 AM
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Guess you've never been to Europe. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:39 AM
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It's not hard to believe, just that when age is appropriate being a virgin is the norm, so it's obviously not a big deal. The virgin thing isn't overblown, hardly any women wants to deal with a young adult virgin. It's sweet in high school, it's sweet early into college. It's not sweet when both are functional adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:30 AM
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Honestly, sorry but I take my comment back; it’s not true. He started making excuses for men sleeping around in the comments and undermined his own point with misogynistic ravings. Very sad, many such cases. Honestly, sooner or later you'll learn how to read in between the lines of these types of posts. If there's no explict mention of both genders, it's not about both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:27 AM
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lol and you still can't see how it completely nullifies your initial argument? Most men are not fucking around because they can't, not due to their principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:26 AM
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I mean, men also date female whores all the time. I don't know about you but most high n-count women I know are more often than not in a relationship with some poor dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:24 AM
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Isn't "peer approval" a scientifically observed behavior in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:23 AM
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Nope. Most single men and women rarely have sex. And being in a relationship is still the best way to have sex for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:49 PM
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Here. As a man I think you ought to keep 3 things in mind: When dealing with people there's never a guarantee of anything; More so with men I think the most important aspect of their personality you should be aware of is how willing they are to put themselves into "bad" situations. It's easy to see if your man is overly flirtatious but what you should be really looking into is if he often puts himself into situations where the opportunity may arise and most importantly, if he makes a big deal ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:08 PM
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CHeck the other thread about PhD psychologists talking about relationships. Men in general are opportunistic cheaters. It's not something you can assess by their personality, principles or even happiness in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:10 PM
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There's no hill to die on here because of how women are perceived in society. A 10/10 or 9/10 woman would never stay on a janitor job for long, or even be there in the first place. That only happens in movies. Once she's in a job that values her looks, her social circles improve and she starts getting closer to HVM. That's why a CEO can marry a 10/10 model but not a 10/10 janitor, because for all sense and purposes a 10/10 janitor only exists in this theoretical exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:25 PM
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Sorry, I worded it wrongly. Using facts such as those discussed by the PhDs to fabricate half truths that are huge extrapolations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:34 PM
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There isn't a reasonable opposite to Red Pill ideology, since RP uses scientific approach, and the opposite would be using beliefs. So you basically end up with astrophysics vs priest scenario, and one of those is unreasonable. lol @ astrophysics vs priest. hahahahahahahaha As someone else said, the issue TRP has is that it takes these small nuanced solid arguments, like the ones in this discussion between PhDs and extrapolates them to the most absurd levels. It's pseudo-science at its finest, u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:05 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:58 PM
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Yes they are and they compose FDS, a sub with many similar views from the other side. It's the same phenomenon, disenfranchised people getting knee jerk reactions and going to the extremes of the other side of the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:58 PM
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lol enough said
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:13 AM
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Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not. It’s not a matter of dating, notice I don’t call them virgins or anything like it. TRP attracts males who felt disenfranchised by the opposite gender. It’s not all about incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:06 AM
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Hmmmm no. Chadfishing and field reports are not scientific due to obvious reasons. There’s no standardized methodology, no descriptive framework and their goal is always to reaffirm their belief. If something doesn’t go the way the “scientist” wants to, you simply never hear about it. Same with the anecdotes. Hard to call them “data gathering” when all the data will be skewed towards confirming a pre existent bias. There’s a very very very very long path that separates all of it from actual scie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:04 AM
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Yes, the reason is “blue pill” doesn’t exist. It’s a caricature made by TRP to establish counterpoints and present itself as “the path of logic and reason”. A strawman. It’s obvious from the origin of the concepts. Why would anyone identify their beliefs with the blue pill in the first place? Most people who identify themselves as blue pill here do so in order to negate TRP beliefs, not because they follow any other similar construct. And yeah, the reason is the internet is crowded with resentfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:59 AM
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I’m a man, tho. And I’m not talking about all men, I’m talking about tbis very specific subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:40 PM
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while I agree women shouldn't cater just because of an imbalance, your also saying there isn't an imbalance in other parts of your paragraph? So which one is it, is there an imbalance or isn't there? There's obviously an imbalance. Nothing in life is balanced. The point I'm makign is that whichever balanced should be achieved naturally won't be based on flawed metrics such as the rating system commonly used around these parts. The fact that assortative mating is the norm means that on average ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:54 PM
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K, Kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:52 PM
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they're dramatic femcels women have reached levels of entitlement never before seen in humanity. Pot, meet Kettle. hahahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:51 PM
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You're still a human being buddy, what "works" for you or not does so due to your personal decisions, not due to your special physiology. And yeah, it's very easy to assume your diet is shit based on all the info you provided. You're 50, you're pudgy, you say that if you don't workout your arms become big bags of flab and you're dismissive of any mention of dieting. But, I think 3-4 hours per week can't get an endomorhpic pudgy type person into "great" shape unless he's on some super low calorie…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:48 AM
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You have a vested financial interest in letting people think that with a membership to your gym, all they need to do to "look great" is spend 30-40 minutes 3 times a week in there. No, I don't. I don't own a commercial gym, I own a weightlifting gym specialized in the sport of weightlifting. It's literally my side gig and I while it's cool that it's not a money drain, all of my interest about it is sport development. But please, do keep guessing. You're doing a great job making a fool of yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:32 PM
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Perfectly put. Assessing both genders experiences by their ability of getting laid is a useless pursuit, as sex is basically a given for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:35 PM
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It's simple, buddy: Your friends who do look great may also derive some enjoyment from their time spent in the gym. Or they have goals to which looking good is only a secondary objective. As I mentioned, performance oriented goals. No one has to spend over one hour in the gym to do an effective hypertrophy workout. No one has to go to the gym 5x/week to develop a nice physique. 80% of the people can't handle a not shit diet? No one cares, it's entirely possible. If you try to make it work you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:28 PM
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Why it it ok for a 4/10 woman to feel entitled to date a 10/10 man Because these "4/10" women can handle being alone than being with someone who doesn't meet their standards. And if they don't they're just as delusional as their male counterparts. but it's disgusting for a 6/10 man feeling entitled to date 6/10 woman? Once again, because you're using asinine metrics to put everybody in a same scale and judge their value according to it. Assortative mating is the norm. The vast majority of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:16 PM
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I guess yuo never saw pictures of a vagina hidden under layers and layers of fat. lol TBF fat people in general are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:06 PM
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tbf that's a tall order for most women nowadays too. lol I fully endorse the hedonistic lady approach to life, just be self sufficient and have a good, limited, time with whoever seems good enough at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:04 PM
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So your source is an anecdote that can't in anyway reflect general populations. But you still feel authoritative enough to say: More than average single men, and sometimes not even then depending on how motivated the average dude is. Above average is a whooole different story. Someone should really do a research on how anti-science the manosphere can be. It's frankly amusing how unapologetically anti-data it always ends up being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:56 PM
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"Bottom barrel women" are just as left out and ignored. Most average people are coupled and in relationships. It's not women that have higher standards, it's y'all that are below average with a high sense of entitlement. Your usage of this 0-10 scale to qualify people says it all. You use all these shallow "metrics" to argue that someone should be paired with you just because they're not as pretty as other women. You use this rating system to argue that handsome men have absolutely no other reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:49 PM
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Or maybe when your choices open up you can select your partners judging by more factors than just some random internet scale of attractiveness? But god forbid women have their sense of worth up lifted lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:37 PM
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I would say roughly 13.745%. Approximately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:35 PM
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Dating in a small touristic city>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I live in a 80k beach town that’s a highly sought destination. I just drown in pussy. The most limiting factor for me is usually not being willing to spend mroe money in a given month going out/setting up dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:57 PM
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Nah. Most people just don’t use their hours to their best ability. They want to sleep till later, mess around in bed, chill down on breakfast, want to go straight back home after work, feel like scheduling your day around training is “too extreme”. Most successful people I know my age are successful in many venues of their lives simply because they don’t idle away. The dude who’s a jacked doctor because he split his day in 2h for gaming, 2h for working out and 3h for studying since his teens ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:53 PM
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Few people can diet down so what he said is false? That’s some sound logic. Most people are pudgy because they eat like shit. There’s no working out a bad diet if you want to look good, you can train 24h a day and you’ll still look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:48 PM
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Sorry, no. You can meal prep on weekends and longer training sessions are meaningless unless you have specific performance oriented goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:45 PM
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It does not and this is just lazy excuses. What it takes is consistency, and that’s the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:43 PM
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You don’t have to? The point is that “limited time” excuses are complete bullshit for 99% of the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:42 PM
3

lol so you think most men who are dating actively have 6 pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:21 AM
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Some real /r/selfawarewolves material here in this thread hahah Makes you wonder why most men here think “most women” are the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:13 AM
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But if every women doesn’t want to have sex with you it’s because society is decaying and women are hypergamous whores. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:54 PM
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Sounds good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:26 AM
3

So if she chooses anyone else over you it’s because he’s a Chad, but if she chooses you over anyone else it’s because she’s settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:23 AM
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The pubs play the game well but women make the rules of dating in general. Make no mistake about it, if women collectively decided that on the weekends they'd go to pubs to party and meet guys then nightclubs would die. Where women go men follow. Don't you think that, historically, the first clubs may have started as pubs that started to adjust their marketing to attract women for one aspect and men for the women? But again what I'm saying is, if women don't go to the places you're supposed to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:09 PM
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Well they can't complain because they're the ones who make the rules, and they've made it so the easiest way to get pussy is to go to places where you're not supposed to get pussy Because, as the other person said, the notion is that "looking for sex" is frowned upon whereas having it as an afterthought is the adequate way to perceive social events. There's no event made to get pussy other than orgies or booty calls. There are events marketed as events to get pussy. And in this case it's not wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:53 PM
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That's not really what makes a women complain about being hit on. Women don't like being hit on by men they don't reciprocate. Many cute love stories start in unexpected places, because they were reciprocated. Many "creepy dude" stories also start in unexpected places, because they weren't reciprocated. Anyway, why they can't complain? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:42 PM
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I see where you're coming from, but even then, 20% is not far away from the norm to consider it relevant. Using a probabilistic approach. That means that on average 1 out every 5 girls you date "are not like this". This sounds WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY optimistic than what he makes it seem. The mythical Chads who bang 5 girls/week and are able to sole handedly fuck millions of women in big cities, skewing the "actual data" are outliers, "20% of women not being like that isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:41 PM
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What I'm saying is it's illogical women don't go to places designed for sex or dating when looking for those things, in your comment I replied to you referenced girls who were actually looking for sex so I think this It's not illogical because they don't need to. lol And what's most important: Places "designed" for sex(if you mean parties in general or whatever not explicitly sexual) are often marketed differently for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:27 PM
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Attractive sausage Parties attract women. Im not even in direct contact with the people but my female peers seem to make a lot of money being a waitress at nice restaurants and go out clubbing every weekend till they find some rich/hot guy something impossible for men in the same group. Cheap dick is worthless. But the events you described are the exact opposite of sausage parties. They're exclusive pussy parties, designed that way specially to attract dudes, often rich ones, that can pay for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:09 PM
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Well, it is if you consider nitpicking to go by the actual meaning of the words. haha An outlier is literally a point out of the normal distribution. You could just as easily say “20% is too large of a population to be considered an outlier” and not really change his point. What's the difference from what I left implicit? He could easily be saying “women 1 standard from the mean are sufficiently ‘not like that’ to be AWALT.” Yeah, he could. Or maybe it’s clean out of his ass because 20% sounds l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:04 PM
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Now that sounds like an apt comparison. Dating someone who isn't a good person is literally the same as being poisoned. lmfao Do you understand how probability works? If you're actually drawing from 100% of the general female population(what you're not, hopefully), 20% of the women "not being like this" means there's a huge chance every 5th girl you date is a "good woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:49 PM
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Yeah, but once again, 1std dev. isn't exactly an outlier. For reference it'd be like saying a 6'1" dude in the US is an outlier. Taller than average? Sure. But very far from an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:42 PM
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They mean what they need them to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:26 PM
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Checking internal logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:17 PM
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Nah, it's not. I can see it being a thing the highest "value men" simply due to HUGE wealth assymetries. A supermodel wouldn't expect to split the bill with Elon. But for the average folk it's absolutely not a fair expectation, specially given how couples tend to come from equivalent wealth brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:03 PM
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but the comment above implies that you can somehow escape the stigma that comes from not paying, which you cannot; even if you refuse to pay, there will always be 10 guys lined up to do so. And you'll be looked on unfavorably as well You can escape the stigma from not paying, and from that we branch out to two main points: The first one: If paying or not is a decisive factor for her, its decisiveness should be a decisive factor for you. If you're looking for a moderately egalitarian relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:01 PM
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Nothing you've said is an argument for why it's not a competition; finding someone you "resonate with" is about constantly comparing your options to one another and to the options you think you might have in the future, so the men are competing just as the women are. You're right. Maybe a better analogy would be that it's not a race? The prostitutes thing is silly and not comparable to meeting someone who genuinely wants to fuck I agree, but that's because I value this empathetic aspect of havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:43 PM
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My point is that if the guy is going out with you for dinner in a situation where sex is expected, sex is more than guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:30 PM
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While there's a clear "right leaning pipeline" in most manosphere groups, I'd say TRP most sensible points are actually those that display the paradox of some socially progressive women in terms of what they expect from men, compared to what's expected of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:18 PM
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It's not in the sense that people date around indefinitely until they find someone they resonate with. It literally doesn't matter if you're date #2 or #33 as long as you get a date and get along. And finally, if paying for the date or not is the decisive factor for her, is that really someone you want to be in a relationship with? If it's about sex, well, prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:07 PM
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If the guy matched with you on Tinder or is alraedy flirting with you you don't even need to pay for a dinner. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:00 PM
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Men being more thirsty than women gives women an innately higher market value for simply having a vagina, yes. But this does not mean women actually have a higher value. Yes, it does and you're literally explaining why. Unless you want to get real nitpicky in the utilitary value of men and women in post modern society. lmao Essentially, if either party is not dating in good faith then they are being unfair. They are wasting the other person's time and potentially damaging the other person emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:58 PM
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If women object to men placing expectations on women, then men can rightly object to the expectations which women place on men. Which not only they can but also should. If these guys around here weren't so desperate to play the number's game it'd be much easier to hit the bullseye in terms of finding women who resonate with them in such small issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:51 PM
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It is, I'm a dude and I hardly ever pay for the whole date. Almost always 50/50, in fact those who don't offer to pay are the exact ones I end up not having other dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:48 PM
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Is always paying for everything something you'd up for in a relationship? If it isn't, why would you go along with it in the first place? Who cares if there's 10 guys lined up to do so? This isn't a competition, as long as you stand by your principles you're enforcing your own veto process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:46 PM
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That's a pretty big section of the dating pool's expectations right now. Is it ? I feel like it's 100% up to the kind of women you're looking for. If you want a "trad" woman, she'll probably be expecting to date a "trad" man, even if for any given reason the date doesn't turn out well. I go out with lots of liberal women and most of the time have no issue sharing the bill, banging later or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:43 PM
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If this is merely your testament under what authority can you claim that someone's views are dellusional or not alligned with "reality"? Aren't your experiences as anecdotal and biased as anyone else's?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:06 PM
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Difference is percentage, men who rape account for 3% of the male population. So you wouldn't adhere to gun safety standards if only 3 out of 100 injuries/deaths happened due to mishandled firearms?? This number is also sufficiently high if you bear in mind how quickly the odds increase if a given person merely dates more people or how much of a group of risk women in their 18-30's are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:05 PM
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So you agree with women when they say "all men are rapists"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:59 AM
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What exactly makes your experience more "real" than other? How do I know? Years of experience in my career, traveling, and trying to date "garden-variety" people. Isn't that what literally everybody else is doing out there? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:56 AM
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I'm pretty sure where you draw your sample from matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:54 AM
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TIL normal distribution doesn't exist and somehow 20% of anything are outliers. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:52 AM
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AWALT. Also kwown as Apparently80%of Women Are Like This. hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:50 AM
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What would be discussed in this sub if not this type of shit? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:22 PM
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Well, that's the issue in analyzing a subjective aspect, that of attraction, with an objective scale, a 0-10 rating. Not everyone can be a 10 because it's well defined that a 10 is basically the most conventionally attractive person possible. But someone can be someone's 10 just by turning them the fuck up. lol And it'd only get harder and more complex to assess if we bring up the point that personality traits also add up to the overall attraction of someone. Something that, once again, isn't ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:21 PM
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Sounds as rewarding as paying for a stranger to let you fuck her so I think there may be something to the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:16 PM
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But have you also kissed back guys who just went in for the kiss? And yeah, you’re spot on in the date/hangout stuff. I feel like many men are just too subtle in how they display their interest and IME women will always look at you as a friend if you’re ambiguous. Being rejected sounds way worse from a women’s perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:29 PM
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That’s a fair assessment. I just don’t see dates as that big of a deal and feel like getting to know someone in person is always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:26 PM
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You guys act like feeling the mood is a kind of supernatural power
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:23 PM
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And how doesn’t it apply to men? I’ve had dates with women who were just so terribly insufferable in person that I couldn’t care less if they were into me anymore. But of course, there’s always the crazy/hot equation, she just wasn’t hot enough. lol I swear this sub makes it seem like every men is like a horny dog humping on every piece of furniture lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:22 PM
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If she likes you just kissing would also do the job, I suppose lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:18 PM
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Do you treat hot women the same way you treat women you’d never stick your dick in? The entitlement is crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:05 PM
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Sounds like a lot of math mambo jambo to sound scientific when assortative mating contraries this “argument” and is well evidenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:00 PM
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Of course. Just as it would be even more so if you included men aged 18-60.Do you know how stats and data work? Yes, I know. If you went from 18-60 you'd be doubling the sample size and completely reducing the relevance of the 18-30 age group. Adding the 30-34 isn't relevant enough to change any given trend. Well, it took you a while but I guess better late than never.Good to see you agree that the 3% dip doesn't signify a decline. Nope. It's clearly a dip if you have the same level of variance …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 01:00 AM
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You think 3 yo data is old? Uhm... fascinating take. It's older. You're literally presented with new data and choosing to dismiss it in favor of what you consider helpful to your narrative. Which is why it's irrelevant. When people talk about sexlessness they talk about men 30 and below. Like the one I linked. So let's see, using older studies when you have a more recent one: Doesn't undermine the argument at all. Adding one age group to the sample observed: This observation is now 100% invalid.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:46 AM
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We're talking about female sexlessness, what's the relevance of the male part of it? I meant pivot point as in the point where women sexlessness stopped going down and started going up, even if that 1 year decrease didn't appear significant in the general trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:28 AM
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It has no issue if that's all we have to take away from. If we have more recent and precise data, it's clear that significant changes will go unnoticed. There are discussions here that are backed by 10 year old studies, there's not much of an issue with it if that's all we have. There's no way to discuss the subject if he's talking about 31% Male sexlessness and 18% female sexlessness while I'm talking about men below 30% and women above 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:27 AM
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And I already explained how the data in the OP is irrelevant and I provided the data for it. "Explained", 3-5 years old data. The sexlessness phenomenon people talk about is about young people , not people in their thirties. They never had a problem because the wall works wonders. The graph shows stat for 35 and below. I have no idea what you're talking about. Female sexlessness spiked dramatically in 2019 . Guess what else happened in 2019. COVID happened in very late 2019 and general restricti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:25 AM
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Where did you take it from? The 2021 GSS graph shows 2018 as a pivot point and the plot points go up in a single line. That means female sexlessness growth from 2018-2019/2020-2021 kept its pace. The link you posted is from early 2019, having its final point in 2018 and clearly showing the same info presented in OP's graph for the same year if we adjust for the small diference in age range(18-30 and -35)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:12 AM
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keeps getting weaker ¯\(ツ)/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:07 AM
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huh...I have a research published in the OP, you have 5 year old data and an untested hypothesis. It's up to you to provide anything of substance in this context. You're just being dismissive while expecting people to bite on your authoritative way of stating your opinion. Also, a 3% change in this context means a 10% delta. That's not statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:05 AM
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Grasping way too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:58 PM
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That's the weakest jab I've ever seen. I know it because I'm in their social circle and follow them. Do you know women IRL other than your ma?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:55 PM
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General restrictions only started in early 2020, yet female sexlessness rose at pretty much the same pace from 2018-2020. Boiling it down to COVID makes no sense in this timeline, not to mention that it's not logical to assume that general restrictions reducing male sexlessness is expected. Men not averse to risk during the Pandemic weren't averse to risk before it and had infinitely more opportunities at their disposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:40 PM
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Nah, I'm sure my old fashioned as fuck grandpa was really worried about putting his mouth in my grandma's bush and making her cum before getting his.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:29 PM
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Yeah, we all know how modern women are less sexually liberated and are actually more and more concerned with not displaying their sexuality, hence why so many more women are lying about being sexless. LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:28 PM
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Your data is cut in 2016-2018, is that on purpose? Check the link presented in OP and not only the graphs you show are presented but there's also the more relevant last 3-5 years data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:26 PM
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Because, as evidenced by literally every single article made on the issue, male and female sexlessness often derive from personal reasons. The sexless person is very often an active agent on their sexlessness, rather than a passive victim of society's whatever. Be it moral/religion reasons or simply a busy lifestyle, many people are opting out of sex instead of being left out. It's just that in the internet the minority is extremely vocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:21 PM
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Maybe men starting hanging out more with the dudes #bromance#nohomo#noswordtouching
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:16 PM
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I truly wonder how many women you guys know in real life. lol Most women I know that I'd call average have private profiles or are extremely low key about it. Really makes me wonder how much of TRP/PPD rhetoric spout over here isn't just misguided by how media throws information over us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:14 PM
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Can't you just look at the previous 5 years and check the trend? Your risk take is just based on...nothing? The unwillingness to accept general trends go beyond what you consider the "eye test"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:12 PM
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To your point, for 20-30 age group if say 80 percent of women is having sex with 40 percent men and assuming equal population that would be 60 of all population in that segment compared to say 20 years ago this was 60 60 then sex haven't changed for the young age but just shifted because of the power dynamic in dating. It makes no sense to be confronted by the actual data and still keep on pushing the same button. No, Chad isn't fucking 80% of the women. Women who have a lot of sex are having se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:03 PM
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So? Different people have different reasons for being sexless. May I bet that you say this is a much less dire issue because you're on the other side of the argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:59 PM
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Age is generally correlates with money and status. Yes, but both of these attributes only serve to make up for lack of attractiveness. A 6/10 18 year guy with no money and no status is going to struggle with women. A 6/10 guy with money and status will do fine. You seem to think I'm suggesting that he'll be banging Victoria secrets models. He'll have a normal level to slightly above average success which is probably great for him since he has only dated 1 woman. I'm not. I'm saying money and sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:25 PM
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Yes? lol Or you think there’s no deeper reason to why chick flicks are chick flicks? That what’s appealing in them isn’t something observed and exploited to its maximum in order to profit? What’s the next hot take? That the super hero fantasy has no deeper meaning and people just like seeing silly suits? I disagree with PPD’s male rhetorics in most instances but if there’s one thing they’re spot on is in how PPD women default move is to deny anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:44 PM
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What their desirability has to do with anything? Also that’s just the old bias PPD and TRP have in thinking older man are more desirable lol There’s only certain correlation because it’s in the late 20’s and early 30’s that man usually get a stable life. But that doesn’t mean causation. A 20-25yo dude who earns the same as the upper class 28-32yo self will certainly be more attractive, specially to the young females every man wants to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 12:36 PM
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That's exactly my point. It makes sense to draw how many people are married out of the gen.pop, but it makes no sense to draw how many are divorced out of the same gen.pop. It only adds a useless layer of stats (2,9/1000) to the actual relevant fact: That roughly 50% of the marriages end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:54 PM
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That's some bad stat representation, to the point of being dishonest. Why would we look at the divorce rate out of the general population?(not talking about your reply, but the way the study is presented) 2.9 out of 1000 looks like a really small number until you take into account that it's actually in function of the married population. The real number should be that 446 out of every 1000 married people get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:43 PM
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A man making 300k a year has no problem dating a kind and hot waitress making 50k. This is disingenuous. He has no problem dating her because he's rating her based on her looks, not her wage. In that sense she might as well be much hotter than a 300k lady. This 300k dude would never date a fat waitress because he knows his money increases his value. Your example only illustrates how other factors can be an equalizer for men while women can only hope to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:43 AM
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not with that atitude, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:57 PM
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I don't see how my line of thinking is wrong. Women do pretty much the same thing. Beauty will always be a factor in relationships. For women rating men it's one factor, for men rating women(the way it's depicted here) it's pretty much the only factor. A man can overcome his ugliness in many different ways. Most women can't for anything meaningful. You guys equate a fugly woman being treated as a last resort in a night club for an easy fuck to an ugly but successful and charismatic dude marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:43 PM
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I'm pointing out why it makes no sense to put it this way. And no, that's not how people think, "people" don't waste their times overanalyzing this type of stuff. They just live their lives and date whoever reciprocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:38 PM
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Aye I'd be fine If a hot girl atleast gave me some kind of physical affection. Would rather take that then getting rejected by mediocre women most of the time You sound like someone who would benefit greatly from having something else to offer other than physical attributes that may not be your strongest asset. But hey, you do you. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:34 PM
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Eh people don't really like being seen as their partner's 5th option From this point of view it makes no difference if you're a guy or a woman, you date who reciprocates and I'd be hard pressed to believe you were never rejected in your life, so anyone you dated was never your first option. Dating isn't a dick measuring contest nor a race, you're only setting yourself up for frustration if you're an adult expecting to be anyone's 1st anything, emotionally. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:28 PM
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Preying on poor people for easy sex sounds commendable. You must be a good fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:07 PM
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Aye I'd be fine If a hot girl atleast gave me some kind of physical affection. Would rather take that then getting rejected by mediocre women most of the time And your line of thought is exactly why women also have it hard, albeit in a different way. You see a hot girl and nothing else matters, likewise, all you see in a "mediocre woman" is her looks. HOw dare a 5/10 reject ME!?!? I'm sure none of this toxic perspective seeps into your personality and makes more rejectable. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:03 PM
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The problem is that by nature, in primates like humans, inferior men are never sexually attractive. If only we could've developed bigger brains in order to create social parameters that move away from basic instincts, right? I guess you also have this irresistible urge to eat your babies if they're born with deformities? Do you also smell the pee of your partner in order to check if she's due to fuck? I guess it's normal for men to go out on raping sprees because they simply can't control their …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:57 PM
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If that was the case men would be the objectified sex in terms of beauty standards. Spoiler alert: It's not. There are a thousand things that can alleviate the "pain" of being ugly. You can be fun, you can be charismatic, you can be successful, you can be confident, you can be jacked. OTOH men rate women almost exclusively by their looks and many men in this sub even talk as if that's a good thing. "We don't even ask for much! We just want a hot booty who can make me some sandwiches!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:51 PM
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It used to suck less, now it sucks more with the online dating. The amount of effort one has to put to get anything back makes it a very low return investment. lmfao what? online dating made everything so much easier to the point where most men here are complaining because they can't get an easy booty call from the comfort of your couch while watching some random TV show. Dating was never easy for an unattractive male but people "back in the day" were forced to develop social skills that helped …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:48 PM
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Why? Looks don't exist in a vacuum and attraction varies beyond any "objective" standard you have. Not only women/men may have varied tastes that don't conform to any benchmark of beauty you guys use as reference, but there's also personality traits that may enhance or reduce how attractive you are to someone. With that said, yes, on average, people should end up dating their equivalents in terms of attraction...and that's exactly what happens. The issue here comes from TRP/PPD males' distorted …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:21 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:03 PM
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If we go by the fanfics dudes write around these parts then this sub must be some sort of Wallstreet Golden Gym. Because it sounds like every sexless male here is a 6'2" 7~8/10 fit dude making +200k/year with a myriad of interesting hobbies and a whole lot of affection to provide. This sub has a considerable bias towards sexless males, converge this with the normal distribution of the general population and you'll find that the average PPD male is probably 18-28/overweight/unemployed~low earner …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:18 AM
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They just act like life is an RPG. "looksmax, moneymaxx, fashionmaxx and I'll drown in pussy". What's the point of doing all of this if they don't know anybody? If they can't talk to anybody? I'll never understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:13 AM
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The main things the men can improve (income, fitness) don't matter to these women. You know you can also be more sociable? If you're not popular/charismatic or especially handsome most women in the same socio-economic sphere aren't going to be interested except as the backup option. Well, and what's wrong with it? There's obviously something wrong with the atitude of this specific population if lower income men are getting laid, fatter men are getting laid, fitter men are getting laid, richer me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:02 AM
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Meanwhile their equivalent male counterparts live an isolated life of video games and porn until they get their shit together or their will to engage in life dwindles further. Because women keep their standards in check while men get desperate and fuck anything that moves. The main antagonist of bottom barrell men aren't women, it's the men with no standards who dip into the greasy pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 06:58 AM
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How is this different? Simple: The question taken at face value has an obvious answer. #2 and that's shown in most women replying. They're just preemptively adding nuance to their answers because it's obvious that there's an implicit argument behind this obvious question. If most women just said "#2" and nothing more you'd be here calling them out for lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:48 PM
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Same reason why a guy would choose a less attractive woman who was really into him over a 10/10 escort who wasn't. That's 100% not true. There's always a baseline that can still be higher than realistically expected. Otherwise all incels wouldn't be here complaining that women don't fuck them or that OLD is unfair. There's always someone uglier to give you a chance. People want to feel desired regardless of whether it's casual or not. Yes, but that's the issue with your question. If a man has lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:44 PM
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I just don't think most women would rather choose this over a regular guy who thinks she's the best he's ever had, which is the point of the post. Why? The point about casual sex is that it's casual. That's the issue with you guys here in the sub, you just overthink too much. She's looking for a hot guy to fuck her. Why would anyone prefer an uglier person who's fawning over them? Be it men, or women? You also act like the "Chad" would be acting completely dismissive and disconsiderate while Bil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:26 PM
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How exactly you know how long each of her partners waited for?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:42 PM
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No one can match the sex drive of an incel dreaming about his trad waifu
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:54 PM
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I mean, imagine how out of touch you would become if yoi could make a living by taking photos of your feet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:40 PM
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The revisionism lol By now TRP is basically whatever every single “believer” wants it to be lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:38 PM
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Who’s chasing whom? The impact of gender and relationship status on mate poaching And see, I don't disagree with nothing you said. Posts such as these are truly telling that there's clearly something holding you PPD women from saying it the way it is in some instances. Much like men here denying assortive mating, it really seems like a trend here for PPD women to always put themselves above and beyond anything that may feel confrontative or associated with mating competition, even if at the deep…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:42 PM
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Who’s chasing whom? The impact of gender and relationship status on mate poaching
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:34 PM
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Zero. Putting up obstacles just for the sake of it is stupid. Everybody should feel free to do whatever they feel like regardless of what's expected of them. Now if she doesn't feel like she also shouldn't put it just for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:57 PM
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By the “thousand cock stare” Lmfao The jokes these guys tell each other to reinforce their beliefs are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:28 PM
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Yes. For real, the concept of marrying is just outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:26 PM
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Because he probably is in a certain metric? Because his strong assets may not be presented in a first date? Do you think it makes sense for a woman to complain that men don’t seek her the way they seek her hot friend? That’s obvious. There are women out there that you probably don’t even acknowledge the existence, are we supposed to pretend how attracted we are to someone doesn’t influence how we treat them? That's the issue with looking at relationships transactionally, they're subjective by na…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:16 PM
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lol Literally beta bucks and blaming society for telling women not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:35 PM
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Aint nobody got time for that lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:26 PM
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I'm a man and not only I completely disagree but I also think it's pretty telling of a man's view on sex in a relationship as a physical and selfish task rather than something more intimate. I'd have no issues dating an escort but I would be more inclined to dating a regular woman, even if she had a comparable N count to the escort. The reasoning? In the real world most relationships start casual. There's literally zero couples I know, outside of highschool sweethearts, who didn't hook up for ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:43 AM
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who are just trying to earn an honest living leveraging what they are good at. Except that hardly any woman turns into prostitution "because that's what they're good at" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:13 AM
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A single woman in her 30's who had a lot of sex partners? If she didn't ride your town she can't be a town bike, can she? What if I live in a town with 2 million men between 20 and 40? lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:10 AM
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I guess you’re one of those fighters who scoff at being punched, given how much you seem to love being way way up there into your own ass. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:05 AM
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I disagree. My point is that how you present yourself can also be a way to exteriorize your personality and preferences. In your example: Mustache vs Beard vs Clean shaven, why should the “objective choice” be what gets you a % increase in getting laid? You want to get a tattoo but you never get one because it’ll decrease your overall dating pool? You like your hair long but you cut business style because it increases your chances of attracting women? I understand how individually everything see…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:40 PM
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That’s like saying that instead of going to places you like and listening to music you enjoy it’s in your best interest to go to places where most people go and listen to music most people listen. The point of cattering to your “niche” is that you allow yourself to be authentic instead of just trying to emulate what you think is the min/max build
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:08 PM
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Because of how these medias work. No one tunes in for a level headed person talking about the pragmatic aspects that lead them to a conscious decision, and what's most important, such people don't bother creating this sort of content(why would they?). All that's left are the people who thrive on seeking attention, and that's usually done by being overly dramatic. Why people do "Prank gone wrong" video? Or exaggerated "react" videos? Because the easier to digest content is often the most watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:43 PM
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I’m not a MGTOW or incel but I don’t think it’s fair to generalize it. What I think that happens is that people who get into these social wars of “being mgtow, being incel, being fds, being pilled” or whatever aren’t really representative of most people who are just living their lives. The difference being guys who are part of some of these groups take it as part of their identity, while most single people in the world are just way too busy living their lives to think about it. I have a buddy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:59 AM
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Case in point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:55 AM
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wanna know what two things arr also very different? Basing your arguments on studies with consistent methodology and representative samples Basing your arguments on Tik Tok trends or whatever you see in social media. Is social media not real? Of course it is real. But by the logic of its consumption it’s just a snippet of what gets people talking/watching. That’s like watching just chatting streams on twitch and assuming most women are e-thots with a bathtub in their room selling used bathwater.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:53 AM
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"You are a nice guy who have a just fine sexual life, not one of those douchebags who you claim get all the fun hot sex, so if you are not one of those guys why do you want to get that kind of sex? Stop fixiating on other men's sexual lives" This is so fucked up to the point of being infuriating. We're not irrational mammals with the sole goal of reproducing. Just having sex shouldn't be just fine. Sex between partners is supposed to be something good and fun most of the time. There's lazy sex? …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:52 AM
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I'm a dude in a pretty liberal touristic hotspot in Brazil and no one asks this type of shit. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:33 AM
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Are you really referring to the plot of porn movies as to what men may take away as unrealistic sexual expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:27 AM
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This is a very sound logic, the whole responsive/spontaneously dynamic. I guess that's why I grew discontent with monogamous relationships, I enjoy my spontaneity too much while also thinking that women should always be free to act the way they feel like. Of course sooner or later feelings get in the way but in the long term I just don't feel like giving up any bit of my freedom again. My work already takes away enough of it. I agree with the choir that handling more than one relationship might …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:52 AM
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There's literally no winning because there's no body of work to define in strict terms what is TRP. It's a collection of anecdotes and men agreeing with each other. Likewise there's literally no losing because as soon as you point towards some issue with it the three horsemen show up: You don't understand TRP; This isn't real TRP; TRP isn't about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:39 PM
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As a data driven dude are you backing up your arguments with something more rigorous than the studies OP provided?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:29 PM
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I disagree to a extent, and any fit guy who’s not a social potato can easily testify. The “popularity” argument also doesn’t make sense IMO. Most people date but most people are also sedentary and within some degree of being overweight, obese, is it a matter of attraction or simply a matter of greater absolute numbers? An average-ish but in shape physique isn’t a regular physique anywhere in the world. The issue is guys who think bodybuilding will make up for their personality issues. Guys who r…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 12:21 PM
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He’s 57 lol Being a millionaire basically means he had a retirement fund. Assuming he has about 2mil, that’s 6-8k/mo on average out of dividends without messing with the total sum. Do you really think any of it is an unbelievably high standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:02 PM
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I was going to disagree but that’s just a perfect analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:53 AM
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What a dillema: to trust your instincts in regards to someone you’re in love with or to ask for a quick and objective fool proof test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 07:47 PM
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It’s not and the fact that you need to nitpick irrelevant details says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 07:44 PM
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Should we tackle the socioeconomic factors that make it undesirable or unmanageable to have children? No. We should regress to a point in society where women had no say in who would fuck them and their only goal in life was to procreate. That sounds fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:50 PM
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Many of these societies also had young boys being groomed and penetrated jn the asshole in order to appease adults libido. That sounds like a good place to go back?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:47 PM
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No it’s not as not being part of it literally means ending your lineage, wtf are you on lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:43 PM
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Greece, Switzerland, Italy and New Zealand are by most metrics rich countries and they’re in the top of the “most sex on average” in the world. On par with underdeveloped/developing countries, so no, sexless isn’t a rich country issue. It’s a US issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:40 PM
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They don’t want to do what they don’t want to do. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:34 PM
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Because you’re looking for a match in an app that’s 80% men and that only allows you to be judged by your looks. Think of it the otherway: if you had plenty of women at your disposal would you give any time of the day to the uglier ones? That’s tinder for women. It doesn’t matter that they’re fatties, what matters is that there’s an infinite supply of thirsty males.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:32 PM
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But none of them nerds want the ugly nerdy girl, right? These girls don’t even exist for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:30 PM
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I totally feel you man, but I don't think that's a matter of our times or our dating scene and more about how growing up is just this slow walk towards solitude. Either being led on, lied to, ghosted, used, etc. You can’t help but question their intentions and see what it is they really go for. I think that everybody feels this way to some extent. Truth is the older we are, the more baggage everybody carries, hence the harder it is to develop the same level of relationships as it used to be back…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:10 AM
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What changed in dating for you? Can't you just go back to the old ways? I feel like a living fossile because I only started using Tinder this year, but in all the years prior I've never had any issues getting to know women in bars or places of common interest. And yeah, while Tinder is comfy sometimes, getting to know people live is still unmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:49 AM
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As a guy I feel like one of the biggest factors that make these dudes feel overwhelmed by the infrequency of sex for them(or sexlessness) is how much the media throws at us that being a young adult is basically fucking like a rabbit with a lot of random people. First they go through high school without getting into high school drama. Then they go through college and it isn't a booze filled orgy. At last they get to the boring adult life and it isn't like Friends or HIMYM that every single friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:45 AM
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He also has chadfishing posts. That's a checkmate for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:21 AM
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Define regularly. Nothing ever changed about it, there's no 21th century issue in regards to male sexlessness out of relationships. The only surefire way for a man to get "regular" sex is and will always be to be in a committed relationship. Sure, Mr.Modelo can have sex regularly with many different ladies, but even that gets old for him. Just think about it: Sex once a week for a couple is low frequency. For a single dude that's 52 women/year. Ain't nobody got time for 52 dating protocols.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:18 AM
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Well, I can't deny, you do sound quite charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:11 AM
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When was this "used to be"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:09 AM
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LMFAO you really know your statistics if you think an userbase represented by 80% males and 20% females can be in any way representative of the entire population. And if that's somehow now true, where are all of these women that find "most" men attractive? They're only accessible in a dlc called /r/outside .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:06 AM
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Potato potahto
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:55 AM
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Physical attractiveness Several academic studies have found evidence that people with dark triad personalities are judged as slightly better-looking than average on first sight.[71] Two studies have determined that this is because people with dark triad traits put more effort into their appearance, and the difference in attractiveness disappears when "dressed down" with bland clothing and without make up.[72][73] Two more studies found that only narcissistic subjects were judged to be better-loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:00 PM
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Your points are contradicting IMO. If men are going for women in their league, and men almost exclusively those who have the initiative in the dating "game", there's no way a woman would be with a man who's out of her league, unless: These women would rather be alone, and that's their call. "High value men" are seeking these women. If HVM are seeking these women, why wouldn't they consider themselves high value? It was proven in a speed dating study that if you reverse the roles, the perception …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:22 PM
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It's not a 2-for-1. Bad guys can be unattractive and good guys can be attractive. My point is that men who are "seem" as creepy are usually physically unattractive, one would have to go to great extents to appear creepy as a good looking fella. If you're okay/good looking but accomodating you can be spineless or soft, but never really "creepy" because there's some underlying interest in you, some perception of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:59 PM
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The difference goes without saying: You spot a spineless person in the first interaction while an abuser is manipulative about his abuse. In order to be abusive someone must gain the other's trust first or establish a power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:40 PM
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If someone arouses you, it's harder to see them in a bad light. If guys who are accomodating aren't sexy it's easier to frame them as creepy. The same applies to everybody in every sort of social interaction. People treat better those they unconsciously perceive as "better".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:37 PM
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I thought hypergamy was "marrying up" in a class/money/status sense. Are we considering sexual appeal a "status" in this sense? Yes, because by TRP standards that's 90% of what women have to offer.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 06:58 PM
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You’re right. I gave him leeway that he probably didn’t meant this literallt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:03 PM
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Hahah 13h and barely any reply. Guess I’ll just save this post to throw around every other thread when relevant(literally all the time)
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 10:37 AM
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U shy
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 10:34 AM
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These are two separate things. If you don’t like the kind of exposure generated by Tik Tok or insta you’re not going to thrive there, what is the case of OP and that’s the reason dude said not to use it. Being there just to be there only adds to his feel of inadequacy and inconformity with the standard being set. I know plenty of people who don’t like Insta but have a profile just to have it. That’s not the kind of peoe that’ll be meeting anyone on Insta. They’re invisible and there’s virtually …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:00 AM
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That’s a bad take. Dating is a number’s game but the sooner you find your niche the better. If you’re not into Tik Tok what sort of person you expect to find on Tik Tok? Being in the middle of a bigger pool might just make you more invisible if that’s not your crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:52 PM
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Yes, the reason that TRP thrives on male insecurity and there can never be breathing room for those for those who swallow it. There’s never any circumstance where you’re not being literally or metaphorically cucked by “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:05 AM
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Frankly, there’s no point in arguing. If you don’t think it’s worth or that this way a person has no life, you do you, I’m simply pointing out the absurdity of saying there’s no time left in his schedule. Dude has pretty much the whole weekend free, as no one uses the mornings anyway, and can do whatver he wants from 7:30pm onwards as he meal preps on the weekend. If anything his routine just serves to show how much you can do on a week if you schedule and prepare in advance. If you consider 4h …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:41 PM
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What the actual fuck hahaha Dude gets out of work 17pm, hits the gym 18h, is home by 19:30 and is free to jack off until he goes to sleep. Dude wakes up early on a sunday and spends his morning prepping. Wow a whole day spent on basically food. You’re really doing a good job proving his point. Real low energy, is your last name Biden?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:54 PM
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That’s great, Rolo is basically the godfather of this kind of bullshit and it only needs one look at him to see that he’s really its personification haha
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 08:56 PM
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lol if you never heard of Rolo Tomassi chances are you didn't ever really dive into TRP content.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 07:49 PM
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I feel you a lot. I consider myself bi even though I rarely ever hook up with dudes but I learned fast enough that straight women 100% can’t handle dating a guy who’s openly bi. My ex was completely insecure of me hanging around basically any dude because if I’m bi it means I’m gay and of I’m gay it means I literally can’t be alone with another guy without hooking up. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:12 AM
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Is this conclusion backed up by the research you mentioned earlier? Or are you going 100% freestyle now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:45 PM
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Bullshit. AMALT Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:59 AM
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The point isn't that life is perfect or should be. The point is that the odds of finding someone you feel connected to are directly related to the amount of people you meet. It's not that men dislike their options, it's that your concept of "options" simply doesn't exist for most men. Did you know that people can want different things? And like… think differently? I know that’s wild No idea how that's relevant in anyway. The same principles apply. If you're the one who set the standards you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:00 PM
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If you accept that this is the case what's wrong with women who "settle"? Aren't all men, statistically speaking, always settling for what they can get if there's hardly eever a veto process? I'm a man and I have standards. I don't hit what I don't like and I frankly can't understand what goes in the heads of dudes who bang ugly chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:41 PM
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I don't understand how you can't see that this dichotomy doesn't exist. It's basic math: If you have 100 matches weekly and only 1 out of 100 are good, you still have one good match every week. If a man has 10 matches weekly and we apply the same standard of women, that's one good match every 10 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:39 PM
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I don't understand how you can't see that this dichotomy doesn't exist. It's basic math: If you have 100 matches weekly and only 1 out of 100 are good, you still have one good match every week. If a man has 10 matches weekly and we apply the same standard of women, that's one good match every 10 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:38 PM
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And that makes no sense. No one decides to start liking someone else. Wording it as some "trick" makes it seem shadier than what happens virtually all the time. Guy checks out girl, finds her cute, girl isn't even aware of his existence. He comes up and talks to her, she's not really attracted to him at first sight. They talk a little, he's a funny guy and she starts being attracted to him. It's actually amusing how black pill the OP premise is. lol
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 02:54 PM
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This is sort of the male beauty "standard" in Brazil, a largely mixed and predominantly black/mestizo country lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:55 PM
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No idea what you're talking about. My point is that if marriage to you is a way to bind a parent to the child, there's no reason for it to have any benefit to the binded. A marriage in modern days shouldn't be about kids, it should be about both individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:35 AM
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Work and you’ll find out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:50 AM
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Well, if the point of the contract is to keep their responsible for their children I think it’s fair to assume sex is out of the picture, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:32 AM
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Where did you get your data from? I found your source and it doesn't tell the same story: If you want to be a bit more specific it's 1/3 men who go an entire year without sex. So if a guy gets laid ONCE the entire year he is not part of that 1/3. So 33%? In your source it's a bit over 20%, roughly 21-22% The other point your source presents is that the notion of hypermamy and women's sexual liberation and OLD making most women promiscuous is wrong, as proven by the previous graph, female sexless…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:10 AM
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I couldn't care less about how I look. Again, having a realistic view of the world is not "whining". You interpret it this way because you cling so hard onto your blue-pilled fantasies that you become upset when every man does not worship le fair maidens. I don't cling to blue-pilled fantasies, I cling to reality, where weak men are thrown in the shredder and discarded. Most of you black and red pill men just sound pathetic in your long rants about basic aspects of social relationships. You don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:37 AM
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On tinder Tinder has 57 million users worldwide and 76.9% of them are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:00 AM
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There’s something wrong with this if your rule to measure being desired and loved is literally comparing yourself to the hottest dude who get the highest amounts of ONS’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:59 AM
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That’s just false and is proven otherwise every single thread in this sub. Most incels just want to fuck and feel entitled to because “Chads” get laid easily. In all the threads you’ll see men saying being a fuckboy js better than being “husband material” and that being attractive to women means more than being reliable or anything else. All of this point towards the notion that these men only care about shallow relationships and ONS that validates their sense of worth in comparison to other men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:57 AM
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Yes he is because that’s the bitter truth. Sexually liberated women are fucking more people than ever. Most of my friends are on the same level as these dudes and have absolutely no issues getting laid. Are they banging models? Of course not, but why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:51 AM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:49 AM
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That makes sense, but once again, the bottom of the barrel was always the bottom of the barrel. No reason to believe “back in the day” the ugliest men/poorest men were doing any better than now. The issue is the social problems of guys who’re not in the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:49 AM
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Yet only roughly 20-30% of young men are sexless. How is that even possible if women only fuck the top10%?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:43 AM
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No, you need therapy. lol Calling out men on their whining bullshit isn’t being a white knight, it’s doing a public service to losers in the off hours. I just expect more of men. But hey, keep on keeping on, I’m sure your attitude is getting you everything you want in life, dude who waits for purge weeks to post on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:40 AM
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Memes? This weekend is about harsh truths, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:29 AM
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Because literally nobody goes out on the streets proclaiming they’re virgins, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:25 AM
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Joke’s on you for taking the bait. I agree women have no game
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:24 AM
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That’s what I was thinking. lol It’s depressing that so many people here spend so much time in this sub that they develop these meta memes. Imagine your life revolving around spending your day on Reddit complaining about women/men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:23 AM
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Imagine having a schedule in order to be able to post in a sub. Man, that’s depressing. Therapy helps
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:20 AM
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When you want to fuck, who isn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:18 AM
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Women from a country that’s being militarily subjugated by another? If you can’t grasp the obvious power dynamic and survival issue here you’re just too much of a moron who feeds of being triggered by shit like this. Lmfao The only reason men didn’t do shit like this was because they’re the ones who were forced to fight. Or do you really believe french men would lay with Nazi women if they could? How many women you saw in the planes leaving Cabul? Honor means shit if you’re just going to die a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:16 AM
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The issue: Those who fuck the scum of the earth The non-issue: The scum of the earth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:56 AM
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Definitely not lmao the standard here is “as white as passable”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:50 AM
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And there you go, you just presented the issue with the AWALT arguments. Even if most women would not care about him being a Nazi, some definitely would
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:14 AM
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I mean, mofo got out of his mom’s vagina with a chiseled chin and a penetrating glare, if he wasn’t Sergio he would be Derek Zoolander
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:13 AM
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Where is it clear if the few viewer metrics we can grasp are invalidated by…your experience with Office quotes on tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:10 AM
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You really can't see the obvious flaw of your logic? Pose the same question to men and I'm pretty sure in the bottom of the thread you'll find somethign like: I want an otaku trad wife of viking descendancy who knows how to deepthroat and is sexually liberal but is also a 18yo virgin who never saw a penis before. She must be smart, but not smarter than me, submissive and must think I am the most sexy and handsome man in the world. Do you think it'd make any sense if a women posted all resopnses …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:06 PM
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No, I'm like a person calling you on your bullshit. The participants went from extreme dieting and exercising to probably not exercising at all or exercising less while relaxing in terms of dieting. First: n=14. What an amazing piece of research. Second: "The group as a whole on average burned 2,607 calories per day at rest before the competition, which dropped to about 2,000 calories per day at the end." Because they went on an extreme diet and their system got into energy-saving mode when it n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:50 PM
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I wonder what are the odds of you being a lazy fat person. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:20 PM
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No but finding a composer who you find attractive to serve you tea in the morning is pretty difficult. Why should it matter? lol It's her loss if she spends her whole life lonely due to unreasonable requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:00 PM
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The point other dude is making isn't that these answers aren't honest, but that they're cherry picked. The 5 most upvoted responses in that thread: 1º I once commented here that, in a grown-up relationship, two things (out of like, two dozen) I would look for in a romantic partner included a good credit score and the ability to go see a doctor on their own initiative. Quite a few people took to call me elitist and a gold-digger based on those green flags, lol, so... apparently, that's too high a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:59 PM
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A lot of discipline goes into maintaining a healthy diet. No it does not. Simply reducing meal size can already have a direct impact in weight loss and that's been presented a thousand times by research. If an old man can diet down eating Big Macs you can definitely reduce by 20% the amoutn of shit you eat on a daily basis, specially if you're sedentary and not using that energy for anything. Fat people like to create this myth that it's hard to eat healthy by putting up every single obstacle: "…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:39 PM
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Do you even read what you link? metabolic rate differences Wow, being a lazy person slows down your metabolism, who could've imagined? fat cell formation People who are fat as a child have a harder time losing weight as adults. No surprises? All the same principles still apply and they're still far from an herculean task. The same article presents that there's a considerable people within the sample size who are lean while having a greater number of fat cells. Being fat or not is defined by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:31 PM
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If we were all more selfish relationships would be more real. Women only settle down with a second choice because the man accepts, he’s not a passive party. If you’d rather be in a shitty relationship than single, you’re also carrying a lot of responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:03 PM
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Aren’t you Mr. Sweetspot? Every guy before you was a Chad, the guy she leaves you for? Also a Chad. I’m starting to think Chads are 90% of the male population. If she trashes you to her next BF, is he the beta or do you get an upgrade?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:56 PM
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I frankly don’t understand the concern with this. Literally everybody does this, men and women. The only reason men feel like they don’t is because they can’t exercise their choices as easily as women. As men, can you really tell me all your LTRs were/are with the girl of your dreams instead of the first or second girl that returned your affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:54 PM
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Women already do it all the time here, that’s why I say it’s useless. They need to make it into something else because if they took women’s word for it they’d need to accept that maybe they’re not that nice and maybe there’s no giant conspiracy taking sex away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:00 PM
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So clearly a lot of women are sharing a few men. There's nothing clear about it. The research restricted age to 18-24, what this may point towards is that some of these women are dating guys older than 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:08 PM
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The point of your post is the exact opposite of what happens here, that's what she's getting at. Men here like to act as if they're all "husband material" while they want to be sex symbols. The truth is most are neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:05 PM
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I wish someone would ask a Q4W about how they define husband material so we could settle this once and for all Not useful. Everything is subjective. No sexless man here will admit their shortcomings as far as personality goes, they only like the "deterministic" issues like height and dick size because they can't do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:04 PM
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Gotta quantify them inadequacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:01 PM
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If that was the case the most common type of match would be an ok/average dude with an ugly chick. People date to their level, cases of considerable disparity are always rare enough to be noticeable, otherwise they would be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:20 PM
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It’s not. No they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:09 AM
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She made it a Madonna/Whore situation or did you assume it? The point of the compliment isn't that you're unattractive but worth settling for. It's to say that you offer something more than men who're only good for flings. Why would it be an offense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:06 AM
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People who don't live with their parents (and are not married) are creepy. And hysterically stupid. Wait, what? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:53 AM
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I’m missing your point. She was popular among young women and the LGBT crowd, I don’t understand exactly how she played older dudes if that was certainly the smallest group of her listeners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:49 AM
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I'm sorry but your points don't add up. If you don't swipe indiscriminately you'll only be matched with the guys you're interested in, if the guys are much more liberal with their likes, chances are you will very frequently be matched with those you liked. It makes no sense to say that you have to "wade through tons of matches" if you're not swiping indiscriminately. You'll basically have as many matches as you're willing to have. If you get, say, one notification from the app of a potential mat…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 08:11 PM
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No argument matters more than a gotcha reply, I suppose. Your "minority", your "majority", every point of the article, every single male anecdote here are all valid anecdotes that should serve to build a bigger picture full of diversity, not to end in an all encompassing conclusion that "all women X" or "all women Y". I'm frankly scared you can't see the clear parallels between these article and TRP narratives.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 03:06 AM
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Saying women have it easier doesn't mean they have it easy. Do you really believe it's harder to pick and choose from a myriad of matches instead of having very few matches to start with? Most men are ghosted by their matches as soon as they say "Hi". Women expect men to "do something more, be creative, have a fun life, have a cool bio". What's expected of women in this dynamic? To whom it is easier? If the average female experience on Tinder is like an old hot dog in the ground on the ground, t…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 02:41 AM
2

No one who ever said that was a nice guy. They only put a mask of what they thought was the best way to be in order to get what they wanted.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 02:33 AM
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Because guys feel first hand the difference in the kind of response they get when they shape up? Why should men listen when they can see it in action? And what's most important, the only reason this debate exists is because of one thing: Insecurity and projection as a self defense mechanism. As I said in other reply, many people feel inadequate when they're around people who are "more". If the woman/man is more intelligent? She/he must be a nerd, an introvert, a socially unaware person, arrogant…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 02:27 AM
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He probably is a fuckboy. Likes getting looked at, probably likes looking. For some reason dudes that take pics like that with the intent of showing off possess personality traits that make me cringe, so next. Do you think fit ladies are thots?
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 02:13 AM
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That's literally what the article says, but that's not an issue if it's saying something perceived as positive, I suppose.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 02:12 AM
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Frankly, I'm kinda disappointed with the general agreement of this article, specially here in this sub. Let's summarize: TRP appeal to evolutionary psychology is bogus because EP is pseudo-scientific, but appealing to it to say the opposite is okay? When TRP crazies say AWALT they're wrong, but when the doctor says something along these lines, except that in a good light, it's fine? It feels like I'm taking crazy pills reading this post and the other rationalizing FDS.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 01:58 AM
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Please, don't try to move the goal posts. The TALLEST K-pop dude is 5'10, you said most are 5'10"+. Male kpop stars are not tiny framed. Most are 5'10+ and ripped Most are 5'10+ and ripped Most are 5'10+ He's normal weight and height, he's not ripped. In order to be ripped you need to be a bit more muscular than the average. Most of them are just skinny, this Jungkook dude is the only one who stands out a bit, but he's also the biggest. When I say "masculine by western standards" I mean facial f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 01:40 AM
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Yes they are. Just googled here the only K-Pop band I know, BTS, and the biggest/heaviest member is 5'10/155lbs. They are skinny and their look isn't masculine at all for western standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:36 PM
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Can't really misperceive that. You obviously misperceived how important that is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:33 PM
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and i would not have noticed him had he not put himself out there. If only men understood it. Living in real life can make the world of difference in how you meet people and how you can attract women. As a relatively attractive dude who can go through very dry spells if I don't put myself out there I find it appaling how many men feel like they should be entitled to drown in pussy just by staying at home playing MMOs and swiping right on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:31 PM
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I don't like this train of thought and I think that's the exact slippery slope that would rationalize TRP behavior. What aspect of this interpretation can't be adjusted to TRP/MGTOW? I couldn't care less about the rationalization behind toxic behaviors if it only serves to reinforce a pattern of toxic behaviors instead of deconstructing it.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 08:09 PM
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Is that an issue if it’s by nature’s design? Do we really need this many man if the goal of a male is to impregnate as many women as possible? For every other female a male impregnated, another male bites the dust
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:09 AM
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It doesn’t matter what’s the actual definition, “the best” is exclusive regardless of what it classifies. Wether it’s being the best BB or the best AF, most men would be excluded No idea what you mean by women’s biology beating man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:07 AM
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But somehow all women can’t resist the urge to fuck chad? Will women ever develop their own agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:39 AM
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Aren’t women also “biologically wired” to select the best partners? Sounds like nature doing its job
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:34 AM
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Instagram? I only get women’s number nowadays after we already hooked up. Asking someone’s phone number feels invasive IMO, and by talking to her through social media there’s always more hints for interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:18 PM
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What the actual fuck
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 10:59 AM
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Only a very small amount of RP men are handling multiple "plates". Most are just theorycrafting on the internet on how would they act if they had to actually deal with women. And I don't mean it as a diss, there's just an obvious reason why TRP attracts the crowd it attracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:55 AM
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Nice comeback. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:58 PM
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It certainly is because with her shitty data entry job and her communications degree she has at least a higher level of autonomy than someone who's 100% reliant on somebody else to survive. She won't be marrying some CEO from a Fortune 500? Who cares? At least she'll be in touch with people the same level as her and most importantly, she'll always be able to opt out of a shitty relationship if she wants to. Punch your strawoman as hard as you want, there's nothing more valuable in "sexual strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:28 PM
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Both of these things don't raise your smv, and, in fact, shrinks the pool of men you would be open to. Yeah, because now she's demanding to know men who are at least on her league, not any bum who's attracted to her tiddies. If these things "shrink the pool" of men they would be open to, women are more than correct in not dating bums. I also don't get the "sexual strategy debate forum", no successful "strategy" should be based on cattering towards the lowest possible denominator. It has been pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:18 PM
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So you've never seen a singe user arguing about "tradwives"? Searching for tradwife gives us a few posts already Going for other terms that express a similar idea or tangentially approach it does the same. There's a shit ton of men, specially here, who want a woman to be submissive and reliant on them financially. The real reasoning, behind what they say? OBvious: If she can't survive without you she can't leave you. It gives sad men hope that if they get rich/successful enough they can buy a wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:13 PM
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Literally what I meant. Read again. If you’re too anxious to make a move you may as well consider yourself not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:29 PM
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Same thing if you’re a man. If you can’t take a hint and make a move you may as well not be interested
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:03 PM
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So who do you take advice from? Unsuccessful men who can only theorize how it feels to be successful? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:38 PM
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I thoroughly disagree with TRP but that’s a harsh truth indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:03 PM
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Is it really manipulation if there are a steady stream of people who seem to want to be manipulated? Apply it to anything else? Is it really a scam if people are seeking after it? Is it really a life threatening cult if people are interested in being part of it? Manipulation is defined by the active agent not the passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:30 PM
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I guess you also answered OP's question and that's the point of /u/januaryphilosopher 's reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:25 PM
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Maybe if billy betas weren't such sluts who bent over backwards for any smidge of attention...but perhaps that's what makes them billy betas in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:21 PM
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Maybe if you were toxic you'd have nailed her lol /s
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 09:19 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:40 AM
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Dear god lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:58 PM
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Did you even read the article? BMI works normally for black women, what’s said is that their perception of dangerous levels of bodyfat is distorted so they tend to be much more obese than other groups. Weight perception may contribute to these differences if blacks are more likely to underestimate their weight. In multivariate analysis, the odds of underestimating BMI category was greater than threefold in blacks compared with whites (OR 3.1, 95% CI 1.9–4.8) and was larger for black women than f…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 03:52 PM
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Hol up. You can’t see how these points are obviously false: BMI “doesn’t work” for black women; A men’s tax bracket can’t change. For real? lol How him being a misogynist makes him wrong when he says that black women can diet down and that men can get richer? He’s despicable and the context in which he uses these facts are terrible, but how exactly is she “more right”?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 03:39 PM
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I understand, my point is that paying 430~500$/mo on average is obviously not as much of a deterrent not to use birth control compared to being locked into parenthood as single mothers often are. Assuming you don't want kids in the immediate future, would you rather pay 500$/mo or carry a child for 9mo, breastfeed it, spend more than 500$ on all the monthly expenses as food, clothing, education, entertainment and have a second, unpaid, job for the next decade or so? In that vein child support is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:14 PM
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As in, men are conditioned to not care about long term consequences for CHILD BIRTH.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:46 PM
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And that's what's expected of a reasonable person. But you gotta understand that as a sensible person you're part of a minority. Know when Carlin say “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that”? People on average are stupid, and when stupid man meets stupid woman and have unprotected sex it's the stupid lady who ends up with a kid in her lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:46 PM
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Nice way to dodge the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:43 PM
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We also have no evidence of the cock caroussel you mention in your first response, but that's not really stopping you from spouting this nonsense, is it? In fact most men and women of this generation are having less sex and roughly the same avg number of sex partners from other generations. But this is the sort of evidence you don't want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:42 PM
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more young women pairing with older men (hypergamy, older men are more powerful) LMFAO I wonder if you guys are ever going to stop spouting this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:39 PM
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I must be taking crazy pills because for the better portion of this period you mentioned men having mistresses was the norm and only the females were expected to be sexually locked into marriage. Every military base has a brothel nearby. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:37 PM
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So you would be willing to carry a baby in your belly for 9 months? That would definitely solve the "replacement issue".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:35 PM
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When was this? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:32 PM
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And that's for an obvious reason. Most of the time we carry no responsibility over the long term consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:26 PM
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Okay, would you mind explaining us why men should bear no blame in an unplanned pregnancy? And the reason women blame men so much is OBVIOUS. You stick your jizz in a lady, you get out of her life you never have any issue. She gets your jizz in her womb, she's stuck with a kid in her belly for 9 months and is practically locked into motherhood for the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:25 PM
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You don't consider "bending yourself backwards for something" a negative expression? Each mile he'll pay X, you'll pay 2X. You can't travel together, and he'll leave you behind because you're "slow", and there are richer friends who can afford to pay, 3X, 4X, he can travel with. Isn't he your friend? Why would he leave you behind instead of waiting for you to keep up? Why wouldn't you guys make plans accordingly? Why his richer friends would wait for him but he would not wait for you? That's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:15 PM
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I can't remember the last time I paid something for a female friend. lol Also why don’t you tell them that? The whole point of their movement is comparison and striving for equality in whatever they perceive as unfair or oppression. Then when things get better, the eternal struggle continues. This is like the pickme girl thing but instead a guy. No idea where you're getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:03 PM
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And there's nothing wrong with it. There's no perfectly balanced market. If there's more male pressure there's more female value. Your answer still dismisses the point that while statistically speaking the vast majority of men may indeed settle for the vast majority of women, each one single man has their own standard. "the vast majority of men would settle for the vast majority of women" can be represented by a smaller number of men settling for any women while most men still have some standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:02 PM
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If that’s all you have what the fuck can you do, other than whine? Life isn’t fair, and that’s not just in regards to male and female interactions. Do you work? Why? Are you supposed to bend over backwards just to survive while some millionaire has it all? Do you understand that there are also men and women who have it much worse than you? What should you do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:07 PM
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Disregarding any standard I’m pretty sure most men can also find some woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:00 PM
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Can you point towards some source that backs up this notion that men need more partnership than women? And why this partnership has to involve sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:56 PM
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Why care about how much work the other has to put on? lol How does it influence your life in any way? That’s just the recipe for eternal bitterness. You do you in every aspect of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:54 PM
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What of these things can only come naturally? Who naturally “has nice clothes” or “naturally has good hygiene”? Sure, all these things require some level of effort, but everyone who presents them put the effort at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:48 PM
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It can suck, but not always. And I'm only presenting a possibility, I don't agree with it. There are obvious disadvantages in being perceived as a selfish asshole in a society. The biggest of all IMO is that we're ultimately social beings, being 100% selfish only really works if you're psychopath. We all need some level of companionship, and the sort of companionship most people yearn for requires a level of selflessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:20 PM
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Sounds like a non-issue. Why should they care? OTOH they have every right to be concerned in not turning back to the days where they had zero agency. Also, let's not conflate the way things were with "natural selection".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:17 PM
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If there's one thing the "average male" on the internet 100% overestimates, it's the sex life of the Chads. Just think of it this way: Many of the most beautiful men/women in the world were cheated on by their "high value" partners. Why? Because something that's taken for granted tends to diminish in subjective value over time. You know who thinks he'd never get bored of banging Gisele Bundchen? Everyone who never banged Gisele Bundchen as much as Tom Brady did. People in developed countries tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:09 PM
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Literally all of life is a prisoners dilemma we’re all trying to figure out what to pick. IDK if that's a good idea. In that case, always be the asshole. Sounds like the obvious answer to every "prisoner's dilemma-like" situation ever. lol If you always act in self-interest on average you'll always be ahead of everybody who acts selflessly as their actions will probably benefit you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:08 PM
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You gotta compliment a woman on some level to be on a date with her i feel though. Don't you agree a man taking the initiative to engage in a conversation that may lead to a date would already be enough proof that he's interested in whatever attributes you may possess? Obviously some discreet compliments go a long way but I feel like anything similar to "wow you're so pretty let's go out for a cup of coffee?" is a very low percentage strategy. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:05 PM
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Actually, I would absolutely choose my college based on sexual access if I had a time machine. Red Pill Man Of fuckign course you would lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:30 PM
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Nah, you're wrong and all you can do in defense of this lazy stance is just say other people are wrong. In what way sex in a relationship isn't as much sex as casual sex? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:17 PM
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Once you understand that total failure is indeed always an option, things simplify quickly. Not only that it's always an option, but it always was. Doomers like to act as if a good percentage of men "back in the day" weren't also getting none of it. Sure, back when your only sexual relations would be with your to-be wife and prostitutes things were somehow much easier. lol What's funny is that I still see the majority of "low quality men" who aren't internet dwellers getting into relationships a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:07 PM
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Assortive mating is on the decline. 80% of men are seen as below average... yada, yada, yada. We've been through this before. Something to back it up other than Tinder stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:04 PM
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No it's not. Your environment is where you do 90% of the things in your life. No one cares if X e-thot from nowheresville has 90k indian followers, she'll still end up dating someone from her immediate surroundings. Your argument doesn't hold itself against the fact that the vast majority of couples come to be by coexisting in the same social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:14 AM
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Never. It always boiled down to just not wanting to be in a relationship at the moment. There's one who talked more frequently about her son, but I never had an issue with it because it's her son ffs, ofc she will talk about him. lol Some of them would only press me as much as single women usually do when they want a serious relationship. As I said, most of them didn't even bring their sons up that much. They just wanted to have a good time and we sure did. They're still individuals, I think one…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:59 PM
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Why is his take bizzarre if you didn't mean him specifically, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:40 PM
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I've dated many single mothers and I've never had any issue needing to be a parent for the kid. Why? Because I was dating them. I didn't marry them, we didn't live together. I had no reason to create any bond with the kid, in all the cases I didn't even meet the kid. I frankly don't understand these guys concerns. Just date her like you'd date anyone else and that's the end of it. If push comes to shove, just stand firm that you don't want to be a father figure to anyone(I don't even want kids) …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:38 PM
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Ok. Well in this case you're agreeing with my original comment, that women don't care about the money but instead the lifestyle having money can afford. I mean, I literally said "Agreed." lol I just felt a distinction was necessary as there's a difference between affording her lifestyle and paying for her lifestyle. Not that you said the latter, just that people could read it that way. Well I can't necessarily speak on your country. Something I find funny in this sub is most of the people with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:20 PM
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You know attractive young women paying for men to have the same lifestyle as them? I don't. You in America or another country, because that shit don't happen over here. If you're a man dealing with a woman with that lifestyle you better be able to afford it or scam your way into it. I meant that the carrer oriented women I know do demand a partner who's able to afford their lifestyle, but in order to pay for his own share, or to split more or less equally. In my previous relationship I paid for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:46 PM
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Again it's not necessarily what the man makes but if (for example) he can't cover a trip to Cancun, LA, Miami, and a 7 day cruise in one summer they're not dealing with you because you just won't be able to do what she wants to do without her paying your way. Agreed. What it also doesn't mean is that it's necessarily the men paying for this lifestyle, even if he can. And I frankly think just like these women, even though I'm a men. I don't want to lower my lifestyle to accomodate for some woman,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:22 PM
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Most people aren't financially stable while still making most expenses they make. We're specifically talking about the average attractive woman here right? Not the average woman. I know average women that don't care about those things, not attractive women (8, 9, 10s). So you never met an attractive woman who was also carrer-oriented? That's frankly baffling to me. While I do know many trophy wives, my experience with couples is that most tend to marry within their own brackets. The guy may be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:00 PM
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Not common at all, still: do you really think you can guess your partner’s past by present clues?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:41 PM
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How would you know how many trains ran through your now prude and quiet partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:27 PM
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Yeah, and most of them are actually working or seeking a career? Even then, there'll be a lot of successful-but-not-as-successful men closer to their age with whom they're attracted to before getting into 40yo sugar daddy territory. Or do you believe instathots are a representation of the average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:01 PM
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you can become more attractive through battering your personality. By being manipulative, controlling and dismissive of other person's emotions. Your description of TRP is like saying "The core understanding of Communism is that everybody is able to live a sufficient life, and while luxury items may not be as accessible, everybody will have access to food, housing and everything they need!" It's very easy to clear TRP theory out of any "dark side" if you keep the theory exclusively in the world …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:54 PM
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Idk about you guys but in my experience every single LTR I've had started with sex, not the other way around. Of course we talk and get along, go on a date or another, but sex definitely always came before deciding to make something official. In fact I'd say the connection developed through sex is one of the strongest factors in leading a person to think about a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:48 PM
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You've not done the exact same thing. wtf I sleep, I've slept in the same room as other people. That's exact the same thing as spending a night naked in a room with 3 ladies who deeply desire to be fucked by me. L o L
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:45 PM
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And IMO that's the sweet spot for a man to show actual confidence. Who the fuck cares about what women think about everything? It's a given that people are different and all have their ups and downs, so why should a man catter to every single opinion a woman has in their relationship? Is it a -1 for him in her scoreboard? Okay, let's hope he makes it up with other aspects of his personality. If everything is a red flag, the issue is on the person who can only see red. Likewise, do these women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 04:43 PM
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Subscribing to TRP logic isn't a requirement to abiding by it if it was in any way absolute the way you suggest it is. If all the things you said were final they would all be thoroughly studied, observed and reaffirmed via scientific methodology. There's no factual information being delivered in anything you say, none of it is falsifiable nor subject to change, everything is just a monolithic set of beliefs. Just like any religious teachings. Or do you believe throwaway field reports are valid r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:52 AM
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Every single part where you draw conclusions with absolutely nothing backing them up(apparently). Nearly every concept in the "manosphere" directly follows from the truth that female attraction is based on hypergamy and male attraction is based on polygamy. Ok. Let's chem them out! I've even seen people on this subreddit make the shockingly absurd argument that men are also hypergamous because men "want the best woman they can get". This is false and demonstrates that a lot of people here don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:33 AM
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You think a rich cougar sees a pool boy as someone above her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:59 AM
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Fat women have no problems getting laid when they want. Yes they do There's a considerable amount of women who are incels in the literal sense of the word. Men (especially RP men) study female behavior very closely. The hunter knows the behavior of deer better than deer know their own behavior (to borrow an overused analogy). Is there any study you can direct us to? Or are these studies the "field reports" dudes send to TRP boards? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:57 AM
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These seem to be some extaordinary claims. Do we have any sort of extraordinary evidence for them? Or is all of it just something we gotta take as "common sense" and a basic conclusion to be reached following "logic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:44 AM
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Of course, I'm giving any leeway to that woman. My point is that there's no way one can ever be sure you're the best at everything your partner ever had. And two of the most important reasons for this IMHO are: People's preferences change over time; You can never know for sure, even if she/he says so or leads you to believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:54 PM
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Of course they do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:03 PM
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In most of these cases their women divorced due to the men cheating? At least as far as billionaires go that's clearly the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:54 PM
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Implying the young blonde won't also divorce rape them anyway while fucking every young man to whom she's actually sexually attracted to? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:53 PM
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And FDS is as representative of the average woman as TRP is of the average man. As in, not representative at all. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:51 PM
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Because they're clearly Omegas. /s lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:49 PM
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Don't trade one echo chamber for another. Fact of life is that the vast majority of people marry into their own brackets and meet their LTR partners within very close social circles. Trying to create rules out of exceptions doesn't make any sense. And finally, look at the freaking age differences OP is talking about as if they were huge. Most of them are men in their 60's-40's marrying women in their 50's-30's, with one or another outliar. You know OP is probably a teenager when he makes a list …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:38 PM
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He's not saying it, he's saying that the general perception of widows in general is that they become single mothers due to circumstances and not their own agency(the logic that dictates the hate towards "baby mamas").
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:57 AM
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I’m just thinking about how there’s a lot of rich folks who meticulously manage their budgets and investing strategies, and a big part of their wealth is solely because they stress over the logistics of money management, lol. That's still less stress than "am I going to eat tonight or not" or "am I going to be able to pay rent this month or not". One is like min/maxing to roll over the endgame, the other is using your whole inventory to survive up to the next checkpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:40 AM
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One comment in this thread described it perfectly, it's all about the white lies. I think the average man doesn't want to know his wife banged any number of dudes, but they'll definitely prefer someone who's sexually experienced and knows what she's doing rather than someone who's completely lost in the bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:54 AM
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This is why men prefer a women to have less or no partners previous to them , They can't stand knowing you may have had bigger and better physically before them ... I don't agree with this statement. I think most men that idealize virgins just don't understand that they're still a "whole person" other than being a virgin. No, she won't become your sex toy who does all your biddings because you're "teaching" her how to have sex. She still has a personality, she may be lazy, she may be selfish, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:41 AM
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The point isn't that she wasn't wrong in saying this kind of shit but that expecting you to be the best everything for your partner is kinda naive. Not only because there are several factors that define affinity in a relationship but also because preferences change. What was very good sex 5 years ago may not be what you consider good sex now, but you can't bring that experience to your current preferences, you can only remember how good it felt when that was what you liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:23 AM
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I don't understand it, tho. The expectation here is that whenever you decide to have a romantic relationship with a woman you have to be the best everything she ever had? Let's say you have a cute, kind, polite, beautiful and prude wife. But her ex was better at sex than you, how would you know? Would you expect her to tell you? Would you feel the same if he was funnier than you? Or if she felt safer with him? Or if their relationship was more passionate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:23 AM
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I'll preface my response by saying: I lean left. With that said, some food for thought: Doesn't it make you reflect upon some views you may have on society when there's literally never a "right leaning support group" for anything? Conversely, doesn't it ring any bells for you that pretty much all the "manosphere" fits into one side of the spectrum? Why exactly you feel alienated by some perspectives displayed there? Ultimately, if the beliefs you hold in regards to left/right aren't pertinent to…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 07:43 PM
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Though a lot of celebrities do have retarded trainers, a lot of the workouts these guys perform that are actually effective are probably the exact same type of workouts an amateur bodybuilder would do. If you factor in that Cooper is in Hollywood, he's almost certainly enhanced to some degree too You said the exact opposite. Not only that he trains like an amateur bodybuilder but also that he’s enhanced to some degree. Regardless of your contradictions, the point that still stands is: None of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:23 PM
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Yes, have you? There's nothing in Cooper's physique that's anywhere close to the level of development of an amateur bodybuilder. Unless you consider an amateur bodybuilder literally everyone who goes to the gym looking for hypertrophy. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:55 PM
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What's wrong with menslib? I don't go there often but it always felt like a very good sub for male support in male issues without talking about women all the time. Out of the 25 posts in the sub's frontpage there's like, 1 or 2 about women or that tangentially talks about them?
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 06:43 PM
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That’s equity not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:03 PM
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You think the fat women with huge bios and close angle pictures on Tinder are swimming in dongers? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:01 PM
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The issue is that dealing with statistics without taking into account different populations(characterized by different cultures) is just unproductive. Statistically speaking the most attractive person universally is probably a chinese or indian archetype of the perfect man/woman. Would that work for you? lol And finally, most people’s microcosms are just too small to be represented by the general trends. Like, you live in the metro region of an urban center with roughly 5M people. There are cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:00 PM
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Do you think he looks like a bodybuilder? If he doesn’t, it doesn’t matter how he trains. She talked about how he looks. Once again, how he looks. Why do you think it’d be relevant for a woman how the dude trains to attain their physique? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 03:35 PM
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That's one funny side of this whole e-girl/instathot business, tho: Hot women are now richer than ever lmao if you have nothing to offer other than money chances are you're not getting any. Must be pretty frustrating for these dudes to discover they can't compensate their shitty selves with dollars anymore. Kinda like that Fresh dude from Fresh and Fit. Dude gotta bring the bank to hang out with girls most normal dudes can get a date just by being regular dudes.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 12:49 AM
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First point: Yeah, he's an arrogant prick. I can't understand how you guys can stand watching anything from him. Second point: BMI doesn't work for black woman because it's based on caucasians??? Third point: A woman's weight can change but a man's tax bracket can not??? Fourth point: Poverty is a factor that increases the ocurrence of obesity but black women are still 13% above hispanics in terms of obese frequency??? I like that she stands up against him and it's hilarious to see how riled up …
/r/ExRedPill15/08/21 08:01 PM
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Can you stick to what I said? Nowhere did I mention older men in general being more attractive nor did I say anything to suggest a 37yo is more attractive to a 26yo woman. In bold: I don't think older men are more attractive or that men get better with age. What I said was: I don’t think men get better with age but I believe men peak later. What this means, once again, is that unlike women's "peak" in their 20's, in regards to dating and being sought after, men's peak happens a bit later in life…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 02:37 PM
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These guys rate women by their looks. The fat nerdy girl at CVS is invisible for them, unless they're looking for a hook up.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 11:00 PM
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But for all the criticism of unfairness. I've never seen a huge 100,000s subscriber rad fem podcast that shits on men and makes them a caricature of the worst stereotypes and invites them on and disrespects them for clicks. IDK, I feel like that's most feminist pages I've ever saw. It's just that feminism is a bit older than these incel groups, so just beating men up doesn't really carry any channel by itself. There's also the fact that while they display a poor caricature of women, their audien…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 11:00 PM
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Being dellusional isn't really a problem for anybody else other than themselves.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 10:51 PM
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Why do you think women get cars, travels and their own place earlier in their adulthood? That's not what I meant. I meant they get used to guys with such things. And to reiterate, I don't mean women are particularly interested or attracted by these things, just that in the dating world men not having these severely hinder their tools compared to others. Example: You're young in your early 20's and you meet two very cool guys. One still lives with his parents and doesn't have a car. The other liv…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 10:39 PM
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Kind of dissonant opinion here: I don’t think men get better with age but I believe men peak later. Like it or not, one of the few things TRP gets right is that men are the most scrutinized in relation to their financial condition. And it doesn’t mean women are looking for money or anything like it. Young men date young women, old men date old women but a men in his 28-32 pretty much dates anyone he wants if he’s financially stable and does the bare minimum to take care of himself. I never had m…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 03:45 PM
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Think about their average spectator lol
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 03:23 PM
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These "fresh and fit" dudes are the biggest LARPers i've seen in a long time. Put them in a night club and you'll see the facade falling off instantly.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/21 07:38 AM
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Just take a look at Adam Sandler's love interests in his movies. lol And nowadays he's producing most of his movies.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/21 01:06 AM
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In the US I'd probably be considered a latino. The case of black women is somehow even worse in countries where they're the majority, like mine. That's even a phenomenon thoroughly studied by sociologists in my country, Brazil, "The solitude of the black woman".
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:53 PM
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There's money to be earned in being the token black guy of the far right. His existence and ideals validate the other racists who don't want to be seen as racists. Ultimately his whole existence is based on the hope that the things he defend never come to fruition, otherwise he he be fucked. lol
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:17 PM
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Black men "hate" black women because we as a society are conditioned to devalue black women when compared to white women. When someone says "trophy wife", does someone's mind go straight into a black woman? No. It's almost always the stereotypical blonde. With that in mind, what is a women for TRP? It's a trophy. It's something to put your dick in and look good beside you. Hence why they visibly dislike black women. Because black women aren't a sign of status. A successful man should have a peti…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:17 PM
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Do you think there's something in you that can be appreciated and loved? If there is, isn't there a chance that these things can also be there for ugly and unattractive women? Just bring your expectations down to your "realistic" level. It may not look like there'll ever be a woman for you, but that's just because society condition all of us to treat ugly women as virtually invisible. And just like pretty women can be great people, there'll also be ugly women who are nasty. But among the crowd t…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 10:17 PM
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And I'm talking about physical features, not personality traits That's the special detail. In regards to TRP theory they consider a woman "masculine" not due to her physical features, but due to her personality traits. According to them, and that Fresh and Fit podcast smashes this point home ALL the time, leadership, wanting to succeed professionaly, standing up for yourself, being ambitious are all masculine traits and women that display these are pulling themselves out of the market as far as …
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 08:42 AM
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Yeah, a back and forth between 4 users. So 4 users arguing about pilled ideology in a 3mo old post with 70% upvotes(9 in total) is where you set the bar for a sub to "become more red pilled"? A sub with almost 1 million subscribers, bear mind. In the frontpage of the sub it's clear, judging by the first sticked post, that the mods are cracking down hard for at least 1 year on pill ideology being disseminated in the board.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 09:19 AM
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You're pointing to a 3mo old thread with barely any replies.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/21 09:01 AM
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Yes because in their opinion every man who is more successful/more handsome/more charismatic than them is a chad who only wants to pound some pussy because they have all the power in their hands.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/21 04:39 PM
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IMO that's the funniest thing about TRP "experiences". They're so removed from the "sex market" that they come up with this ludicrous parameters of how many people one usually gets laid with. Dudes really think most women are having sex with over 100 men in their prime(16-26 I think?) or that anyone believes they're sexing 150 women. lmao
/r/ExRedPill15/07/21 07:55 PM
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It sucks balls. I was recommended this channel and frankly it's just "nice guy culture" inserted into black community mannerisms.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/21 12:39 AM
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First: That's just trading misogyny for misanthropy. Just apply it to a rule of averages. If you know a group of 100 people do you really believe only 2 of them are good and "of high value"? Do you consider yourself a high value person? How objective is yours or his evaluation of what constitutes a high value person?
/r/ExRedPill11/07/21 06:45 AM
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Would you mind explaining what still keeps you in the fence? Or rather, what arguments lend credibility, in your opinion, to the concept of "the cock carousel"?
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 03:44 AM
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What always puzzled me is: Where the the fuck are these women finding ALL these Chads? Like, If ladies are sleeping with as many as 500 dudes from their teens to their late twenties, are they really being that picky? lmfao It just doesn't add up to me how very few man are somehow the only ones who get pussy while women are literally distributing sex to whoever walks nearby. I feel like these people are so socially inept that they have no understanding of how ludicrous these numbers.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 12:10 AM
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Of course she's pretty, when I say bland or boring I don't mean someone ugly, Kirsten Stewart from Twilight is stunning and I particularly find the lady from 50 shades of grey very pretty too. What I mean by bland or boring is that their characters don't really have any defining characteristic about them. Their goal is to be as much of a blank slate as possible or at least as relatable to their main audience as possible.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 09:04 PM
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Well, hot guys are appealing and a bland protagonist makes it easy to put yourself in her place(are you into anime? That's the same idea behind bland protagonists there). I'm not a woman but there's definitely a trend in the topic of sex-related stories consumed majoritarily by a female audience. Have you ever read those erotic novels that used to sell on newsstands? That's the basic structure of 99% of them. A modern iteration is the Twilight series.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 08:15 PM
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2 hot guys fighting over a boring suburbanite.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 07:18 PM
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What falls back into my point: If you don't buy into this hypergamy stuff the TV show is just about the conflict inside the of a woman between her wild past and the safe and cozy present. This conflict isn't specific to women but it plays right into the fantasy of a hot bad boy and a hot good guy on a dispute over her affection. IMO the perception of it being a "male RP fantasy" comes from the skewed perception TRP has that this sort of TV show is basically a 1:1 depiction of how every single wo…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 07:16 PM
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You're the protagonist of your own story. It'd be cool if someone hit on you? Yeah, it would. But keep on waiting for this to happen in order to develop a relationship with a girl. You're the one desperate for intimacy, don't leave it up to fate, go get it.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 02:25 PM
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Because unlike momma told us, not all of us are special. Most of us are actually pretty unremarkable. Along with that women are conditioned to suppress not only their sexuality but their social proactivity, that's something that's changing but we're still in an awkward middle ground. See how you feel? You can be damn sure many women feel the same way, but while society expects you to do something about it, society just expects her to deal with it. So don't take the call for action as a chore, ta…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 02:10 PM
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calling someone out? on a date. ive gotten acquainted with ladies. two of my very good friends are women. That's a very good starting point, that they don't see you as a prospect is not a big deal, as they're your friends after all. With that in mind just think like this: Next time you're interested in a girl, think of how you can befriend her while also keeping it apparent that you're interested in her. Yeah, life isn't fair and not everybody is a hot dude, but women can definitely be attracted…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:59 PM
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idk dude, ever tried calling someone out or getting acquainted to a lady, maybe even becoming friends(without second intentions)? Social interactions are very organic in how they develop themselves, if you're not in touch with women you'll always ahve a hard time dealing with them.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:46 PM
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If you don't believe in hypergamy there's nothing red/black pill about this series. It's straight up female sex fantasy.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:31 PM
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Just like women are not, so what's even the foundation for shit like "hypergamy" other than nutty pseudoscience?
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:23 PM
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It definitely can, and what exactly is wrong with it? How much of our culture was defined by Butt Pirates of the Caribbean?
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:22 PM
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It's not a good way of saying no one cares. Though I must say kudos for me for hitting the bullseye. It's a way of saying that the rationale of the blackpill is absurd when there are literally billions of men in worse conditions getting along just fine. The blackpill and the redpill are the gender activism of first world male citizens. It's not a matter of sex availability, it's a matter of not being able to cope with the fact that women can have sex preferences and fantasies while also living r…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:20 PM
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It's not blackpill propaganda. It's female sex fantasy, because women can fantasize about sex without having all their actions controlled by it, just like you can enjoy your without choosing a partner over her similarities to a porn star. Why no one cares if it may be viewed as blackpill propaganda? Because all these pills are fringe groups that are a very small portion of the male population. It's predominantly white male first world "problems". Yeah, it gets to a lot of women's heads having 2 …
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 01:04 PM
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i just think this show is inadvertently gonna blackpill people and will be dangerous It's not, everybody who makes a bigger deal out of it than what it is was already getting pill'd. It's a mainstream TV show. lol what exactly are we expecting? Ugly people? Did it bother you that Don Draper cheated on every single wife he had regardless of how stunning or sexy they were? Or did it just help build the character into the "Succcessful man" archetype? The sooner people find out women are also sexual…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 12:40 PM
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No, I make fun of dense people who take it for granted that random people on the internet knows your whole background story. No one knows who the fuck you are nor has any reason to snoop into your post history to know whatever shit happened to you, so either tell right away whatever you want anyone here to know or just stfu
/r/ExRedPill03/06/21 02:36 PM
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This sub labors under the delusion that there is NOT a big problem for men in the modern social and dating market/arena. There unequivocally is. How it does this? By disagreeing with specific points of TRP? There are a lot of peer reviewed studies backing up the 80/20 casual sex distribution Why should anyone care about casual sex distribution? Do you think in yesteryears every men was swimming in pussy? This sub labors in deconstructing this very specific issue of TRP and blackpill that your po…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/21 04:36 AM
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ok buddy now you need to at least tell us who touched you when you were a kid born into a satanist cult as the future host of The Enemy.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/21 04:30 AM
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Simple. Younger women are less experienced and prone to being manipulated.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/21 09:37 PM
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Not sure what you mean by more sexual. A person can be very sexual and open with people they choose but also not choose many people. I assume they were both the same age? I've know people who were very flirty but didn't sleep with many people. They were just extroverted people that liked the social interactions but there was a big line for them between being flirty and "sexual" and actually being physical and having sex. That is also a personality difference. What I meant is that she had all the…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 09:42 PM
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But if someone was in the high double/triple digits I wouldn't date them and I would question them as a person. How would you know someone's body county before dating them? In finance there's that disclaimer: Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Assuming people change over time and that people go through different stages in their lives, what a high count tells you about this person's present? That's what I was trying to exemplify, I had a crazy year once, but how is that descripti…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 08:57 PM
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But how would you know that? People change all the time and the older you get the harder it is to associate a person’s lifestyle to her body count. I’ve slept with over 20 woman in a year but I’ve also spent the 80% of my adult life in Long term relationships, how do you figure it out? Timing is crucial when meeting someone.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 08:21 PM
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I disagree. If a girl loses her virginity with a BF by the time she’s 18, breaks up with him and remains single up to her 30’s she can easily get to 20+ partners by sleeping with someone every six months. That’s easily the frequency of someone looking for steadier relationships but not being satisfied with what’s on the market. I’d find it very hard to judge someone’s lifestyle over sleeping with a different person every six months and I don’t think that’s the sort of thing that’s exhaled by one…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 08:16 PM
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Just be fuckable and stay single for long enough. If you lose your virginity at 16 and stay single for 10 years that’s 10 people/year, hardly a challenge for anyone who goes out and is average looking with no big issues.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 08:00 PM
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I mean, this is ex-redpill, not redpill-lite, so it’s pretty easy to assume most people here will have bad things to say about trp. You can still discuss all of this, just bear in mind that TRP affects people differently, so while for you it may have been some next step from PUA YouTubers and that may even helped you in some way, for other people it may have been a completely destructive mindset that only caused pain. If it’s something that caused a lot of emotional damage to someone you can’t r…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 12:13 AM
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Lo hacen porque a LatAm le gusta exportar conflitos de los EEUU.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/21 09:24 PM
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Simples amigo, no hay porque tener una comunidad TRP si la cultura latina ya es redpilled. Lo que los gringos llaman de TRP nosotros llamamos de "educación familiar". Soy brasileño pero creo que la cultura cerca de mujeres y relacionamentos es la misma.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/21 09:07 PM
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What kind of convenient frame of "logic" promotes to be a piece of shit. The frame that women are unconsciously out there to get you, so while you want to be with them you need to be always scheming how to come out on top. That you need to reaffirm yourself as the leader of the relationship, that you can't display vulnerability. There's a lot of similarities between MGTOW and TRP and this is perfectly displayed here: It is just too stressful for me to remain in the vicinity of women because of a…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 07:25 PM
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I’m really only referring to the guys who have only gotten to the point of “redpill is bad because it made me depressed” and haven’t yet acknowledged “redpill is bad because it made me depressed and it caused me to hurt others” Oh yeah, definitely. I think it's all about the small steps. The biggest reason I believe ideologies such as TRP became so successful in recent years is because with the easy access to information everybody is so prone to enter into a confirmation bubble of their own bias…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 07:15 PM
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Now to give you a proper response to everything else: In other words, once you’ve attacked, manipulated or otherwise wounded other people, it’s no longer just about your interior journey to confront your relationship with yourself: you’ve harmed other people and that may need to be made right or at least acknowledged even if you aren’t acting like an animal any more. Because no one is the main character so to speak. Other people’s experience with you is as real and consequential as your experien…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 06:19 PM
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IDK, I don't buy into PUA stuff and that doesn't really sound like what happened. SHe liked me because she liked me, I didn't do anything crazy to make her fall in love. The notion that "she liked me for my Chad ways" was only a way I found to convince myself that I should keep acting like that. I really don't believe this sort of stuff "works" unless there's already a huge level of interest and commitment to a relationship. No one is invulnerable to emotional manipulation but there has to be a …
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 06:01 PM
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Sure, I just said I’m the same guy because you asked “what kind of emotional experience”
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 04:44 PM
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I’m the same dude with the story of the ex-gf lol just a different comment thread
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 08:15 AM
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I just think it's because all these issues are often "self" issues rather than with women. I was a "successful" redpiller so yeah, I had incredible chauvinistic sexist views on women, but I only needed it to affect me emotionally once to change my perception of life and women. OTOH dudes who fall prey to TRP ideology but end up in the same place or even worse in relation to women have much greater mental and emotional issues because not only were they already in a place of vulnerability but now …
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 02:18 AM
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If you don’t mind my asking, what was your original motivation for acting like an asshole if you weren’t already feeling beaten up by the dating scene? It is an enabling mindset. You feel convinced to act in disregard of anyone's feelings because the world is yours for the taking. There's no reason to account for the other person's feelings if she's attracted to your "Chad" ways. "She likes it" you think to yourself, "she wouldn't be into you if you weren't such an alpha". The reality is that pe…
/r/ExRedPill13/12/20 01:48 AM
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How I fucked up a relationship with an amazing girl. I never suffered in the relationship department so I didn't get into TRP the same way most men do. For me it just provided a convenient frame of "logic" in order to be a piece of shit. I used to date this girl who was completely out of my league in all ways, but it didn't stop me from cheating, gaslighting and being completely manipulative. In the end she was so conditioned to suffering but sticking with me that she couldn't end the relationsh…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/20 07:22 PM
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Well, for one I'm glad this is happening in the US, as this is more or less the rule everywhere else in the world. Kids moving out as soon as they turn 18 is the exception globally, not the rule.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/20 03:38 AM
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If by few years you mean almost the last decade...Elliot was already going the pseudoscience route by the time he had his kerfuffle with Elgintensity.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/20 01:17 AM
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No big deal. I see absolutely no reason why someone should compromise. If they have "unrealistic standards", tough luck for them, let's just hope they're prepared to live on their own if it comes down to it. Frankly I think the underlying issue of this news is how baffling it is for society as a whole that women may decide not to settle into a relationship, even if it means being alone. Male celibacy rates are increasing and so are the rates of women who are just fine on their own. Are these wom…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/20 01:15 AM
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Why even bother with “pills” at this point? lol
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 08:53 AM
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We kind of just care about the other. Over the years the intervals have been longer but almost every year one reaches out just to know how the other’s doing.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/20 11:53 AM
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I don’t. I just know that the past can’t be undone and am aware I’m a better person now. It doesn’t help that I feel so unpunished and undeserving not only for getting away after everything I did but also for landing a great relationship right after it. Like, I cheated, gaslighted, cheated more, made her go crazy and paranoid...and in the end I was the one who ended the relationship(because I started getting out of the RP and feeling guilty) because she kept forgiving me and trying to make it wo…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/20 04:56 AM
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Mah queeeeen
/r/ExRedPill11/07/20 04:11 PM
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idk, of course I'm throwing wild assumptions here but I think most people tend to imagine a fully realized abusive relationship, think about one absurd scene, such as the man beating the woman, the woman distancing the husband from his friends and blackmailing in order to do so... when in fact most abusive relationships start off as regular relationships and very gradually scale up. That's why I think it's a missconception that abusive relationships only affect people with low self-steem, becaus…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 04:26 PM
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He’s a dude whose whole career is based on “macho activities”. I don’t think he’s much of a redpill as much as he’s just the epitome of the “Bro”. Like, there’s certainly some agreements with TRP “philosophy” but not with malicious intent IMO, just by growing and developing his personality in a given environment that accentuated these notions.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 05:40 AM
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Exactly. Of course gold diggers exist but it’s a bold statement to say that “all women are gold diggers”. That’s also why TRP’s tips on how to handle a relationship are basically a tutorial of how to emotionally and psychologically manipulate your partner. Because in a world where you are your real you, there’ll always be someone better and your GF will hop on his dick immediately if you can’t completely entrap her an an abusive relationship. And I put my skin in the game, I followed TRP advice …
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 05:34 AM
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They definitely do among men, maybe not with you but with the vast majority. A man’s status among men revolves around professional success and sex success. The Hollywood stereotype of a successful man is the rich, handsome dude who can get whoever he wants(except the one lady he truly wants because he’s a douche so he needs to improve). And while stereotypes need to be taken with a grain of salt they tend to come from general consensus, as their goal is to appeal to the majority.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/20 04:44 PM
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I hate that I get so much attention now and when my personality has remained the same Here’s the usual thought process: People who only come to know you now assume you were “always” like this, so being a virgin would imply some personality issues. Like, take the incel groups. Most of the time you can’t really argue these dudes are ugly beyond loving, many of them may actually be ok looking, what is what most of the world looks like, average. And average people get laid all the time. So why do th…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/20 04:37 PM
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Now that's easy. Nothing ever happened. Think about it. TRP has its name because it derives from the notion that most men live in a make believe society where they're manipulated by the society to act like "betas". That's nothing new. Every male from every previous generation came to this conclusion about something the younglings are doing wrong. The first caveman who didn't grab a female by her hair and raped her inside a cave was called a pussy. It's true. Upon taking the red pill you see thin…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/19 05:02 AM
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Sounds like a circlejerk movie that's probably not even that good, but the outrage from the incels is fucking hilarious. If this movie becomes even remotely successful, it'll definitely be because of the outrage from the alt-right.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/19 01:39 PM
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While I agree that it looks like a man writing, don’t you think your description of a woman’s life applies to most men too? Most people don’t live dramatic lives.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/19 02:58 PM
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What would exactly be a blue pill in this initial degree of “evolution”? Do you really consider TRP an integral step towards being a functional adult male, or is that just a tool to empathize with red pilled dudes? Read your whole article and while there’s a lot of common sense that can’t be argued against I just can’t help but notice that your article is written exactly like those “leadership talks” and I really don’t know how can you not notice how it’s this exact structure of “advice” that ma…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/19 01:16 PM
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Red pill works in this point: Have a life. Work out, study, chase success. It stops working the moment it suggests doing every single one of these things with the sole purpose of looking more attractive to women. That's where redpill and MGTOW fail. They focus a lot on self improvement, but always tangentially targeting getting pussy. And that's when resentment comes in. When the frustration comes in, when the misogyny comes in. If you live your life for the sake of enjoying it, every new person…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 01:49 AM
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You're overthinking and it's probably overflowing in how you express yourself with the ladies. The mythical "just be yourself" is what works exactly becuase of everything you mentioned. Different woman are looking for different things. Some want an Idris, some want an Allen, some want a Brad, some want a cute guy, some wnat a cool guy, some want a nerd guy. That's simple, so find out who you are and be that guy and the chicks will come, right? No. Because woman are also human beings with differe…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/19 10:41 PM
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You have 2 choices here: Change everything about yourself in order to appeal to a greater audience. Get bigger, trending haircut, good clothes. Focus on doing whatever you like, improving in whatever aspects of your life you want to improve and look after women who may be interested in you just the way you are. No judgement on what you choose, think about your goals: You want to meet a girl who likes you for who you are or you want to be a sex machine? Not that these two are opposites, you can f…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/19 08:50 PM
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this conversation definitely happened. I can only wonder how much real life experience these red pill experts have when they go so deep analyzing a fanfic made for karma. Lmfao
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 09:43 AM
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Lol it’s like these dudes never heard about the ultimate alpha move: THE ASSPENNIES
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 01:25 AM
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lol if you got 40 dates on Tinder you're definitely not unattractive. Maybe due to your virginity you don't know exactly how to proceed in making moves on a date?
/r/ExRedPill12/05/19 09:07 PM
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Does your girlfriend really want to support you? Definitely, her #1 complaint about our relationship is that I keep my worries for myself and whenever she has the chance she wants to help me with anything, from looking for work when I got out of college to paying a date, to listening any concerns I may have. The issue with TRP here is that here's where they plant the seed of doubt in your mind. You're conditioned to never believe that someone may have good intentions towards you. That’s another …
/r/ExRedPill05/05/19 07:48 PM
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but the layout of the female psyche outlined there, while still illogical to me, was outlined with the rules I needed to try and navigate dating and relationships. That's how it draws people into it. It's similar to real life. My take on TRP is that it's the perfect example of false silogism. It gives you great solutions under a great logic, develop yourself, be confident, be successful to a problem that's based on a false premise it creates: The notion that only a certain type of person can be …
/r/ExRedPill05/05/19 04:34 PM
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I just have a lot of difficulty opening up to people especially about this stuff & if she’s put off by it I’d understand & be ok with it for sure. This is who you are, both the dude who's better off being more reserved and the dude who opened his heart to the lady. I suppose I just needed to know whether or not making such a promise isn’t actually the death seal TRP would say it is. It most definitely isn't. Mind If I ask why your previous relationships didn’t work for you? -Cheating on her beha…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/19 10:00 PM
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Dude, if everything goes to shit, lesson learned. If everything works out, congrats. That’s how you should deal with relationships. TRP may contain generalizing truths but everything that matters to us in relationships are our anecdotes. You shouldn’t be afraid of opening up to someone, it shows commitment, either to a long term relationship or to the emotional attachment you two have at the present time. Also, think of it this way: if you’re really all in this relationship, you’re not ruining a…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/19 09:00 PM
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Yeah it does. Even though it’s something more distant I like to believe it’s something that requires more intimacy to get a good response. Like how you can talk to a woman in a bar but you gotta work to get her number. Social networks also give average joes no leeway. You talk to her, she checks your profile, if you’re not Brad Pitt you’re not getting much more than a neutral response. Face to face you can play with your strengths.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 01:21 PM
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It’s never too late. Take everything as a lesson. If for some reason you come out of this with the lesson that it was indeed too late, you already know what to do next time. If it’s not, who knows what may happen? To not act is the same as being automatically rejected. You can’t win if you don’t play.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 01:18 PM
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And that’s exactly what you shouldn’t be doing. Life isn’t a movie. The universe won’t conspire for her to fall in your arms just by chance. You gotta make a move. You gotta talk to her, know her a little better and that’s when you start looking for an opening. Or you just go balls to the wall and ask her out. It all depends on how you read your interactions.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 01:11 PM
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Life is full of awkward moments. Sooner or later you gotta learn to face them, laugh at them and move on. Otherwise you’ll live a very safe live full of regrets. One other important thing. The rejection is more important to you than it is to her. Yeah, she may be aware of you after she rejects you, but she won’t be acting like you’re a rapist. You’re just an adult male who was interested in her. You’re not the first, you won’t be the last, if she’s mature she’ll handle it as if nothing ever happ…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 01:09 PM
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But what do you mean by “sexual presence” Coming forward about what you want. If you want something you should be flirty, should show interest. Shouldn’t be afraid of physical contact. What I’ve tried is not becoming friends with girls I’m interested in; hell I’ve not even talked to them. But I know the interest is there and I sort of try to send the message that I just want sex, not a friendship so I haven’t introduced myself or become a friend because it seemed insincere? See, while you may no…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 12:49 PM
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So essentially you’re shaming me for wanting to have sex with a girl I’m attracted to but also wouldn’t mind being friends with? Yes. Both things carry an absurdly different social weight. If you just want something casual and pretend to be her friend just to get it you’re being absurdly manipulative. Just think of it this way: if you’re friends with her she’s on the same level as your male friends. While there may be some small differences in how you two act around each other compared to two du…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 12:13 PM
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By your definition a beta orbiter is that dude who hangs around the girl waiting for an opportunity. Or the girl keeps him close for validation. But like I said in other reply, that only happens if you start the friendship with second intentions. As a friend with no second intentions you may be close to her. Some friends end up being together, yeah, but this is something that happens eventually. Not something planned. About the sexual attraction, you can be attracted to someone while not making …
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 11:54 AM
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Obviously you can, but that's something that should happen organically. If you're try to be friends with a girl just to try to have something with her later, you're the orbiter. What you got wrong about this interaction is that the matter of being an orbiter or not is related to your, the male, intent.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 03:17 AM
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Have you ever played competitive online games? You're the guy who complains about ELO hell. In every relationship you have the only common denominator is you. Ever stopped to think about that if you were friends with women who you weren't interested in, their intentions wouldn't change anything in how you feel your relationship with them. At worst you'd feel they're too flirty for comfort. You have these experiences because you're seeking friendship as a decoy for sex interest. That's why you fe…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 03:09 AM
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And the last point is just having wider life experience enriching it with female relationships that aren’t purely based on sex? This. Stop seeing women as a prize, they're people. Yeah, some social dynamics are different but in the end you're capable of being friends with women, them being attractive or not, because much like you they have many other facets to who they are other than their looks and hotness.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/19 02:39 AM
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That sounds a lot like a confirmation bias. They're not necessarily right, you just agree with them. There are many "soy boys" who have no issue getting girls. You agree with the red pillers because you were probably raised in an environment with a very "macho man" setting. I know I was and I have my biases ingrained in my head. I couldn't imagine growing up and not being strong, growing up and not being built like a tank. I still can't understand how women find "fragile" man attractive. But man…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/19 03:52 PM
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I think your notion is very idealistic. Disregarding the invalidness of the term, being an Alpha in our society in the way the redpill depicts basically means you're succesful enough you're not afraid of specific social interactions. It's being confident. The issue with that notion IMO is that they're deriving their confidence from some perception of success, and their general advice is to fake it till you make it. Act alpha until you're banging all the chicks, then you'll be secure with your la…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/19 03:32 PM
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I’d put PUA and redpill before incels, easily. While both groups are misogynistic PUA and TRP are more about men seeking women validation, incels are almost black pill level
/r/ExRedPill07/03/19 10:54 AM
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RP and PUA tactics often seem to consider the ladies some kind of passive object that is the goal of the whole “game”. Yeah, she’ll bite, she’ll growl, but you’ll still implement these “moves” and pass these “tests” to get it on, because you’re working on a level above hers. You’re the hunter baiting her into the open, she’s the gazelle. I think it’s safe to assume that anyone with a bit of love for him/herself would never give a second chance at someone who’s trying to be manipulative. Would yo…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/19 11:03 PM
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Is this small sub being trolled or what?
/r/ExRedPill22/11/18 04:36 PM
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You wouldn’t date them because you know they’re a “slut”. What you don’t know is if every other women wasn’t a slut. That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 04:36 PM
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Surely, if you’re not using it to extrapolate into what women are attracted to. But that’s exactly what’s happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 03:29 PM
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Two main issues I have with OP’s argument(and that’s obviously based on my own experiences as a male who probably slept with more than 30 and less than 50 women in his life) Partner count doesn’t necessarily equate to more experience than being in a LTR. Casual sex is infinitely more Vanilla(on average) than a couple’s intimate sex will ever be. It can be because of well suited kinks or just knowing exactly what your partner likes. a higher Partner count doesn’t mean more sex. I can safely say I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:21 PM
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Sexual inexperience isn’t directly related to number of partners and I think this is the major flaw of OP’s logic. Casual sex isn’t hardcore porn. Yeah, you can get a freaky girl sometimes but more often than not it’ll be just Vanilla sex and shooting in the dark to know what the other likes without letting it become a chore. What matters is how faithful they were in any LTR they had, not how much meaningless sex they had as a single person. As a single person you don’t have to care about anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:04 PM
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Well, certainly you can “sense” it if you get the slut of the neighborhood to be your date. Much like a woman can “sense” the man was a loser if he’s a childhood acquaintance. In the real world in big cities there’s no such thing as “word goes around” and I’m 100% sure you must’ve met women who had a N count you would consider slutty who were a complete class act.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 01:41 PM
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The one. It isn’t some form of unicorn of preset type of gal made specially for you. A woman becomes the one for you. Just think about yourself. Would you put up with the issues of any random woman in the street? No. Would you put up with the issues of the woman you love? That’s what people mean here when they say “the one”. Unfortunately you can only discover it by putting yourself out there and giving it a shot. Maybe your current gf can’t handle it and that’s ok. But more importantly: try to …
/r/ExRedPill26/06/18 12:39 PM
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Get out and do whatever you want without a set of rules defining how you’ll act towards anyone. The biggest issue with the red pill IMO is how it typifies every person into a particular subset and gives you instructions on how to act towards them. Just be nice with whoever you meet and you’ll get friends in no time.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/18 12:29 PM
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I mean, just look at the graph and the data. There’s literally no pattern to be found and every interpretation of it would be an absurd extrapolation. It’s a very basic study and we should really pay attention to the language scientists use, focus on all the coulds, before drawing conclusions. Now onto my opinion: “10+” is a way too small number to even try defining sexual activity without defining some time parameter. Would you be uncomfortable dating a 30yo woman who had more 10 sexual relatio…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/18 12:25 PM
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How did I insult you? It truly sounds like you’re completely unattached to the subject. Like the narrator of a planet earth episode talking about penguins mating. You’re a human talking about human relationships. I may be wrong here but there’s hardly any hard science about it. Your reply is incredibly impersonal and sounds more like something you read about instead of something you experienced. That’s why I made you these questions in regards to how your experiences went to justify your positio…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/18 04:59 PM
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The men over at red pill have a fixation with lifting because they cannot come to terms with the fact that there is something off putting about their personality that repels women. They dont want to admit it to themselves so they think if they just get really muscular their personality flaws wont matter anymore. Men arent good at dealing with their emotions and they dont enjoy doing it. I notice that they will often adopt hobbies that distract themselves from the bitterness and depression they r…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/18 04:44 PM
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You sound like a wildlife observer. lol “Short/long term mating” “Dark triad traits” Legit question: how do you start long term relationships? I find it extremely amusing that you differentiate short and long term “mating” when one is basically a step into the other. You don’t start a long term relationship without casually hanging out first. At least I’ve never done it this way, and from my experience as a not handsome dude not having high “dark triad traits”(I’m in love with this term, it soun…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/18 04:25 PM
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I will paste here what I said to other dude who is in the same situation: Well, do you think you’re the most handsome dude she ever dated ? If you don’t think so the rest of your logic doesn’t apply. Going further, you don’t have anything nice going on for you, but you still grabbed a very valuable person in the sex market, why? Because there’s something she saw in you that she didn’t see in other guys, even more attractive ones. Is there a dude in the world that has all your qualities but is mo…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/18 04:11 PM
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Well, do you think you’re the most handsome dude she ever dated ? If you don’t think so the rest of your logic doesn’t apply. Going further, you don’t have anything nice going on for you, but you still grabbed a very valuable person in the sex market, why? Because there’s something she saw in you that she didn’t see in other guys, even more attractive ones. Is there a dude in the world that has all your qualities but is more handsome? Probably. But you have the home field advantage. Your girlfri…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/18 03:56 PM
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I used to feel the same. Like, exactly the same. Playing out scenarios in my mind where I would dump her in the most brutal ways possible, where I’d be the powerful dude dumping this fucking slut who’ll be faded to a life of misery as she lost her shot at happiness. Exactly like you. The good part: it gets better. The bad: there’s nothing you can actively do except trust. Think of trust as a skill. The more you trust the more comfortable you are at trusting. Of course there’ll always be situatio…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/18 01:46 AM
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Well, she’s sucked dicks, so she’s basically a slut, amirite ?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/18 02:07 PM
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