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Leaders probably also don't post on seduction boards. Just saying.
/r/seduction05/09/11 10:27 PM
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I'm going to bet that this only worked for you once or twice, and probably on some nerdy shy guy, and now you feel on top of the world for dominating some geek. First of all, being rude and douchey is only going to AMOG nice guys who can't handle it. AMOG stands for ALPHA MALE Other Guy. You poke an Alpha Male in the chest and he knows how to handle it. It's extremely rude to touch another man in the chest, and not smart. Acting like you're "the boss" because you poked another man in the chest a…
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:56 PM
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I always found the dumber the girls the more likely that game would work. It never worked on smarter women.
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:47 PM
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A huge smile on your face the whole time while wearing a feather boa? That sounds like it might be.... creepy?
/r/seduction19/08/11 09:20 PM
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Because, to begin with, many seduction community types are deeply insecure, many PUAs have a skewed value system that's not compatible with good quality long term relationships. And since PU is simply a cobbling together of various people's opinions, viewing everything through the frame of PU is not necessarily a good thing.
/r/seduction17/08/11 01:14 PM
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You won't get a fixed address, because they're slippery little fuckers, but if you give their names, the police will be able to get that information through their passports and work visas (assuming they get a work visa). There's no cost involved in going to the police. Also, contact these guys, http://www.asa.org.uk/ and they might give you some advice.
/r/seduction16/08/11 10:48 PM
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Points are useless now. It's been removed from visibility. Don't think that calling the police will be in vain. If anything, they can at least advise you on the law, and a log will serve as a record in case VA do try something. Definitely contact the police if they request a face to face meeting. Though, maybe wait a week or two, as I believe the Police in the London area are overworked after the riots.
/r/seduction16/08/11 10:35 PM
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Ah, I see. Well, best of luck. I really hope you call the police if these guys show up in London because it doesn't seem like they're retracting their threats. They may still send their thugs.
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:53 PM
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You didn't show up as Green, until just now, so I had no idea you were a moderator. I thought you were just another Mystery fan boy, afraid of criticism. I see now that you're just afraid of a legal backlash, and are protecting my beloved reddit. I totally understand, and agree. However, I won't "cease and desist" because you're not a lawyer, and you're not that important, and please have a sense of perspective and humility about yourself, but I will respect your wishes, and "stop" defending the…
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:38 PM
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No prob. BTW, have they completely retracted and apologized for their threats? And how did they get your forwarding address from the bank? I'm still unclear on that. Did they legally have a right to that information or did they scam it?
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:28 PM
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Obviously they wouldn't be so threatening Well that's the key difference, wouldn't you agree? There's a process for legal debt collection, and a person has a legal right to dispute it, legally, especially if the service wasn't as-promised. They have certain rights, and the legal process is there for them to exercise it. The extent of the threat is serious, and frightening, because it steps outside the legal boundaries, and puts the guy in a position where he's frightened that no matter what he d…
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:18 PM
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Why should he pay for services that were unsatisfactory? Nobody is entitled to a refund in the community? You just take what you're given, and "Fuck you, we already have your money, lol" Clearly Discovery is not fit to teach anybody anything. Do you really think it's acceptable what Discovery has done? It sounds like you do....
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:07 PM
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Would you continue to take lessons in seduction from somebody if they threatened to send secret videos of you infield, and emails of you talking about your goals to your family and workmates? How charming could a person that low actually be? Clearly he did the right thing by demanding a refund. People have a right to a refund if the service is atrocious. It's a legal right that takes precedent over any "refund policy".
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:05 PM
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If you read the links he posted, they already said they'd refund him. They clearly know they fucked up. They then delayed and delayed over weeks and weeks, probably to see if he'd get a lawyer, and are now just trying to get away with it. My advice to him is to really get a lawyer. They're fucked if he does.
/r/seduction16/08/11 09:02 PM
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That sucks dude. I suggest a better University, in a better country. For anyone to threaten you like that is against the law in the United Kingdom. There are good laws here protecting people against that kind of thing.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:59 PM
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You published links to personally identifying information, including names and personal cell phone numbers, of an employee of a company, No I didn't. You're mixing people up again. He posted information. The phone numbers, real names, email addresses are all PUBLIC information, freely available on their website. The facebook accounts are their public facebook profiles using their "game names".
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:58 PM
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Say you signed up for a self help course. You tell the people your goals, your hopes, your private thoughts, but you hope they can help. Eventually you realize they are a bunch of clowns, and want out. They then threaten to send their buddy, "an ex army officer" around to your house to collect the money. They threaten to embarrass you and send people you know videos of you exposing your thoughts. Here's the part in the email where he says it "Yes, if embarrassment helps provoke your pain and wan…
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:51 PM
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That's a fair point. He did make an awful decision. However, imagine you paid a lot of money for a service. It doesn't matter what the service was. You could easily pay several thousand for a University course, or professional training in some industry. Now imagine, you realized that course was not as advertised, and wanted your money back, but the lecturer abused you, threatened you, and the University Dean later said he supported that lecturer, how would you feel?
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:46 PM
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Um, No, I'm a different user. You can have that administrator verify IPs if you want. I've also been a redditor for ages, and I know that exposing abusive companies is something that is tolerated on this site. Venusian Arts are not an individual person that fall under reddit's rules. They are a company, and their owner is a public figure. Also, Simplyfly has provided proof of what he has said.
/r/seduction16/08/11 08:42 PM
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Don't worry about it! Eventually everyone will know about it anyway, so it'll be common knowledge throughout the community. Take care!.
/r/seduction14/08/11 10:03 PM
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I have read them, and that's your opinion. Obviously, the mid 2000s were 6 years ago, so I'm not quite sure the relevancy of that. A fact presented by a spiteful person is still a fact. A lie presented by a charming person is still a lie.
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:56 PM
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To quote Lando Calrissian: "This deal is getting worse all the time!" Well, Discovery has admitted sending those emails, and Ross Jeffries has verified it. RJ is not going to risk being sued for making a huge claim like that if it wasn't true. In that case it can't possibly be astroturfed, so you have nothing to fear. You have a well known figure in the seduction community coming out and telling people that Discovery has admitted this. Surely this is far more reliable a source than an anonymous …
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:53 PM
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Your proof that it's "out of spite"? That's a subjective view. He's actually revealed some illegal activity on the part of some companies, and sure enough, after posting, that company stopped doing it. For example, Mehow and his SAMP program. I'm not a fan of Ross Jeffries attitude, but, when he presents something as a fact, he does verify it very well. He's not stupid. He knows the truth is protection from libel. And when he's just joking around, he makes that clear too.
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:47 PM
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First person reviews of bootcamps are allowed, and they can be either positive or negative - we don't care. That's fair enough, and I appreciate your attempt to keep things upbeat and productive. Sometimes, genuine criticism of real injustice is a very positive thing, for the hassle and money it will save people in the future. If the original author posts here to discuss his experience with them, will you allow it?
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:41 PM
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Yeah, I appreciate that, but you did say that you needed other sources before allowing it, hence your Gunwitch comment. The gunwitch story is gossip. If there was a lawsuit in this case it would still be gossip. Nothing would change only more indepedant sources becoming available Now it seems you're saying you don't allow anything other than theory and field reports? Can you clarify please?
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:32 PM
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It's an extremely disturbing and negative review of a seduction training course. Are negative reviews of bootcamps and training are not relevant here? Don't you think that severely hurts the quality of the information people have access to and hurts their ability to make good decisions?
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:18 PM
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I disagree. I think it's very helpful to know how Seduction gurus treat their customers, and I think it stands as an example of why these guys are not good role models. We're talking about how the most famous pickup artist in the world threatens his students with violence and humiliation off camera. I believe that's very newsworthy. Please reconsider. It's already posted on Ross Jeffries blog, and he's promised to release the emails Venusian Arts have sent him. RJ is not affiliated with PUAhate.…
/r/seduction14/08/11 09:10 PM
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"Unverifiable claims from some anonymous guy". Sounds like nearly every claim by seduction gurus... He's also posted on the London board, not just puahate. He attempt to post on Venusian Arts and they deleted it. He's posted screenshots of their communication, with hisname. Ross Jeffries has verified it by emailing Venusian Arts. He's setting himself up for a huge law suit if its all a big lie. Who would you like to verify it?
/r/seduction14/08/11 08:24 PM
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