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Where are you in SA? I have found that any Catholic country presents its share of difficulties in plate spinning; i.e. Mexico they date ONLY 1 person at a time and the idea that you MIGHT be dating others is enough for them to call it off.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/15 05:18 PM
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But there are human tendencies just like other animals have tendencies. Sure we are developing but it takes thousands of years for most basic tendencies to change.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/15 06:07 PM
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Ok nobody is biting. Roberts' book Sex 3.0 is a framework for how things could work much better in relationships. He says there are 2 types of relationships- fenced and unfenced. In Sex 3.0, you get to decide, instead of our current failure of Meet-Date-Marry that clearly doesn't work. He has a series of videos on this on http://lovewithoutcontrol.com/ Thoughts?
/r/TheRedPill04/05/15 01:44 AM
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We just don't think he illustrated it that well. Nothing to do with differences between men and women.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 08:05 PM
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Eh. Sounds like just an awkward time for you to bring that up. Either that or she is simply a terrible person. I wouldn't say AWALT though, could have gone much differently with a different girl in the same sitch.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 08:03 PM
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What about all the low status assholes out there?
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 07:45 PM
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What are you doing moving in with a girl while you're still in school? Also, I recommend traveling alone as a guy.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 06:48 PM
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Yeah, but Nice Guys are not actually nice guys. That's my point. And yeah I said guys will pretend to be assholes. The point is the rule that "girls always go for assholes over nice guys" is pretty convoluted.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 06:47 PM
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That's essentially what I'm saying. It's confusing because we have Nice Guys and nice guys, which are different, but perhaps "Good man" is better terminology.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 05:56 PM
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Nice guys are usually assholes but assholes are not nice guys. They are just more authentic. That's why "being an asshole" can "work" to get laid.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 05:55 PM
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Nope. Oneitis does not mean "one at a time". Oneitis means you get hung up on one girl that you think is going to fulfill all your dreams. You can easily do one at a time and not have oneitis. Yes, some women are definitely as you describe and will not give men the least bit of emotional intimacy. This is why I said in my post, it's quality women I'm speaking of. Why would you waste your time with lower quality women unless you have a low opinion of yourself?
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 05:54 PM
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Wow, sounds appealing to me, thanks for the details. The girl I knew here had a lot of issues. She also went to HS in America and was in love with her own looks, many selfies, etc. but she was hitting the wall and freaking out and acting like a nutcase. She was more American with a Polish accent.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/15 03:01 AM
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Even the ones (in Asia) who speak good English I found to be shallow. Why not just save the time and get a hooker if sex is all you want.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 05:14 PM
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The difference is, Asian women in Asia are attracted to white guys like we are attracted to 9's and 10's. Otherwise, they are super shallow and have nothing to offer me. I see them as low hanging fruit thats sour and unappealing.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 04:23 PM
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Can you elaborate on Polish women? I've never been there but went out with one here in the US and she was a nutcase.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 04:21 PM
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I find Asian women to be way too shallow. I agree they don't play as many stupid games as Americans but I don't get much out of hanging out with them.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 04:20 PM
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I've been to Asia. It's true, the grass is very green for white males. The tables are literally turned. If you as much as set up an online dating profile in most Asian countries, you will start getting emails from attractive Asian girls instantly (with varying degrees of grasping the English language). I think every guy should experience this once. You can find out what it's really like to be a hot girl in America. You will be in demand, you will as much as say hi to a girl and she will be yours…
/r/TheRedPill21/04/15 04:19 PM
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Exactly. Nice guys are just covert assholes. So being an asshole actually doesn't get you laid.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 08:17 PM
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That does really answer the question. Sex isn't THAT hard to get that you would have to settle for a "backward retard" to get it.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 08:17 PM
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Another thing you are doing, attacking Libertarians, is simply a straw man argument. Rather than attack or support political ideologies, and promote the false left/right paradigm, I am cutting through that to what is real- natural human psychology. We weren't born left, right, or libertarian. We were born with a desire to be free. Your putting labels on everything is actually a distraction from the truth. You are also claiming the truth, and claiming you don't react to it. Your rigidity holds yo…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 07:55 PM
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Because something exists (communist China or authoritarian Russia) doesn't make it right. Joseph Stalin had an empire and kill upwards of 40 million people. Was he right? China is a horribly unhappy place. Authoritarian control has created a completely miserable culture. Do they get shit done? Yes, but at a price. The problem is you're presenting the argument from "what is" must be correct. Lots of examples destroy this argument. Slavery was rampant at one time. Was it right and natural? Blaming…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 07:01 PM
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Red pill is certainly not letting some authoritarian government walk all over you. Autonomy is our natural state. Countless examples of this. Government, or a small group of people controlling a large group, is most definitely not a natural state. Fixing your own problems is red pill. Expecting others, like governments, to fix them is not red pill. Personal power is red pill. Power-over dynamics is weak.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 04:32 PM
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Good luck with that. Latinas come with all kinds of issues. You want drama in your life, no problem, just start dating a Latina girl.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 02:52 PM
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No, hierarchy is not natural when it comes to power-over dynamics constructed by politicians. Man's natural state is autonomy. Government prevents autotomy. Therefore, government cannot be red pill.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 04:24 AM
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Authoritarianism is the opposite of freedom, and is not "alpha" by any definition. If you require an authoritarian dictator to boss you around, you are just sacrificing your independence- and aren't exactly asserting yourself as a man. Freedom is not a silly dream. You must claim your own freedom; it's mostly an inside job.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 12:33 AM
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Yep! Exactly. If you want an "authoritarian" in your life to boss you around, you ain't alpha.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 12:31 AM
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Authoritarianism also shits on alphas and betas everywhere who aren't connected to the government somehow. Not a good solution if you want freedom.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/15 06:54 PM
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Downvoted for agreeing, oh kay.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/15 01:46 AM
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Yep. In other words, plate at your own risk! ;)
/r/TheRedPill26/03/15 08:34 PM
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Hmm. Nobody can possibly tell their SO "everything". Makes no sense. I mean it's like "This morning I woke up at 7:02, took watery shit, took a 7 minute shower, put on my clothes...." you get the idea. You just choose how much you tell her. Sometimes it can be lying by omission, sometimes it can be just telling her the important stuff. But no one on earth can ever reveal "everything".
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 10:25 PM
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Thanks. And I'll bet 99.9% of guys here forgo #3, except maybe condom use. But I'm guessing most guys are trying to be "alpha" and inflate their own body count, and see this type of discussion before sex as something that would make her run. Of course...I agree with you and this increases STD chances....as does plating, even if you swear you will use condoms every time.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 10:22 PM
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Nice post. I have a few questions for you: Do you ask every girl you sleep with how many men she has slept with before fucking her? How do you know if she's being truthful? Do you always get testing paperwork from everyone you sleep with? Have you ever had or would you ever have a ONS? Or a short term fling, say on vacation? Seems to me, we all know the risks. The more you plate, the higher your odds of contracting something are. But condoms wipe out a lot of the risks, even though they are not …
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 09:08 PM
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Actually, condoms can protect you to a large degree against herpes, just not 100%.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 09:01 PM
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Yeah, and that is just so awesome. :)
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 03:34 PM
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I've noticed something similar about telling women that I'm anti-marriage. Even though 99.9% of women in the western world are brought up with the idea instilled in them that marriage should be your end all goal, many will not run away if you tell them you're not going to get married! I think partly this is because many of them know that it isn't real, deep down. Sometimes, when they hear it said out loud, it actually accesses this part of their true self that was buried long ago. Others do run …
/r/TheRedPill25/03/15 12:36 AM
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Pain is like, my shoulder hurts. Pushing through that pain could be a bad idea (something I've done). Discomfort is like, I want to go talk to that girl but I'm much more comfortable over here talking to my buddies. Pushing through that is a positive no matter what the outcome.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 11:40 PM
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Hmm. I like the general idea of the post, but the title isn't really accurate. Avoiding pain is healthy. Avoiding discomfort is I think what you mean. Quite different.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 08:39 PM
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Faggot (slang) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A Volkswagen Beetle ("Bug") owner in response to fag graffiti spray-painted on her car christened it "The Fagbug" and embarked on a trans-American road trip to raise awareness of homophobia and LGBT rights that was documented in a film of the same name.[1][2] Faggot, often shortened to fag, is a pejorative term used chiefly in North America primarily to refer to a gay man.[3][4][5
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 04:31 AM
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No they didn't. They were calling the Harley dudes with loud bikes Fags.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 04:11 AM
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Morals of the story: Don't marry. Ever. Don't make the assumption that you know EVERYTHING about your LTRs past based on how she is in the present. Despite the above, I would see nothing wrong with him showing a little anger here. Showing anger doesn't mean flying off the handle, it means making it clear you are angry, and you are also cutting her out of your life.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 11:26 PM
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I'm not politically correct either. However, where I'm from "faggot" is simply a derogatory term for gay.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 08:40 PM
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You shouldn't get married anyway because marriage is unicorn-ism. You can't put a contact on "together forever". Marriage fails the logic test for what it's trying to accomplish.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 08:18 PM
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"As a man who was raised by a single mother, I turned out a huge faggot." So you're gay and think that being raised by a single mother makes people gay?
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 08:15 PM
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I get this but I have a difficult time "hiding" or flat out being dishonest about my extracirricular stuff with her. For example, let's say you were out with a plate on Wed and you're with your Main on Thurs. Main says "What did you do last night?" and you reply "Went to a movie". Then she may ask "Who did you see it with?" Then you're stuck. If you say "A friend". It's MAYBE not lying, but it's a gray area and for me it doesn't feel good. Also she may come back with "Who?" if she really is your…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 07:38 PM
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With politics, the red pill is that it's ALL bullshit, left vs right and all that, it's all an illusion. But since you will have people that believe strongly in one of these ideals, it's important to have empathy and not try to convince anyone you are right, but rather to live by example, or create an awesome life and not care with this or that politician is saying or doing. Create your freedom in a pretty unfree world.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 05:35 PM
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Wow, I've been on this forum for a couple of months but that is by far the best thing I've read here. Really nice work man, I appreciate the time & effort you put into this. I also agree with everything you've said and this promoting healthier LTRs. I was married at one time but find the idea of marriage to be a ridiculous concept now and also tired of serial monogamy in a way. Haven't finished the entire post but have a few initial questions: Do you feel any anxiety at all about the women who d…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 03:14 PM
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Thanks, agreed. Absolutism has never really worked for me. I prefer deeper connections with fewer people, i.e. LTRs over plates. In many ways fulfilling LTRs are harder to achieve than multiple plates. Both take work but it's a different kind of work.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 02:58 PM
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How do you know most of that wasn't just her personality and not the pill?
/r/TheRedPill23/03/15 02:55 PM
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Interesting. My GF is on BC and has a really high libido. I'm not alpha or beta. I pretty much do my own thing. I don't know what all this means. Sometimes I think we all overthink this stuff and try to squeeze everyone into labels a bit too much.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 10:48 PM
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Then leave her. No point in playing games, it makes everyone involved miserable.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:38 PM
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Congratulations on your divorce!
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:35 PM
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What in the world is the point of being married to this lady?
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:34 PM
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And then you have a relationship based on deceit and game playing. Why would you do that to yourself unless your self esteem was rock bottom? If that's the case, women aren't going to help you, you need to start improving yourself first.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:31 PM
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Did this really happen? If so, sorry to hear that, what a total mess. However, I think this is a GOOD thing for you. First, you should NEVER marry, anyone, and this woman especially. He would have gotten divorced in a few years, may have had kids with her, etc. At some point her true character would show through anyway. Second chance is absurd. This isn't even red pill material it's just stupidity and the only possible and reasonable response is NEXT and never look back.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 08:23 PM
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Nope, highly relevant and I've had an exchange with the OP already and he even said he's against marriage now and even telling his son not to ever do it.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 08:43 PM
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There never was a point to signing them, even when they were enforced. Trying to put a contract on "together forever" can not work in reality.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 01:02 AM
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Ha, I had a feeling it would resort to you putting words into my mouth and then calling me names. That's what happens when people lose confidence in their own arguments. We're done here.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 01:01 AM
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I actually kind of agree about men ruining dating to some degree. Just for fun, I set up a profile on OK Cupid with a pic of a girl who's about an 8/10. I put NOTHING in the profile, just age (34) and her one picture. Within SECONDS of uploading the profile, I had a couple of emails, and visitors piling up. An hour later I had 10 emails from desperate dudes with such brilliance as: "Wow! You're so pretty!" "HOT!" "You have a great smile!" And on and on. Basically, most guys are completely cluele…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 10:09 PM
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Just don't marry. Simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 09:25 PM
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You've used no evidence. NHANES, you haven't provided any links for. Just saying "NHANES" means nothing to me. You're right, the government is correct and has our best interest at heart. And unicorns exist. I've never trolled, just look at my comment karma.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 08:12 PM
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No reason to think you have to "settle down". Ever. Settling down is a choice, not something you must do. It's a myth that settling down brings happiness. Think hard about what you want. Are you settling in one place with one woman because that's what you want, or because that's what society expects of you?
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 07:52 PM
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The government employed no scientists to come up with this. If you want to keep going by the USDA recommendations, fine, but I'm having tons of success by eating lots of fat and a moderate amount of protein and very little carbs. I eat everything I want to eat, even have some desserts, but doing almost the opposite of the USDA recs has led me to a flat belly, lots more energy, and I look 5-10 years younger than I am, not to mention I rarely get colds anymore. And this is after a lifetime of foll…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 07:38 PM
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Never did I say anything to this effect. And demanding better behavior from a woman without any proper frame set will not work. When I say she feels and thinks like a woman, I'm saying there's a certain language you have to speak (verbal and body as well as actions) in order for her to understand what you're saying. An example of how not to speak to her is to beg her for sex. An example of how to speak to her is through instilling dread. Disagree. Both are negative ways of dealing with her. The …
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 06:22 PM
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You were the one that said "recommendations". Then you said "USDA". Are you changing to some other recommendations now? So you're doubting that high insulin levels cause weight gain? Yes they are using the "Food Plate", which is basically the food pyramid on its side. Anything the government recommends should be highly suspicious. Have you ever looked into all the bias that went into creating the food pyramid? "Low fat" is so unhealthy, but the evidence of this was completely rejected by the gov…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 06:13 PM
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I get that. I wasn't trying to go against the point. But people assume jail=bad person. I was just saying there are other possibilities. Not sure why that got downvoted.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 04:04 PM
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Sounds great man! Good luck and I hope it keeps going well for all of you.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 04:02 PM
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The point is signing contracts and putting on rings is meaningless at best.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 04:00 PM
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You said recommendation. That's USRDA. The food pyramid was bought and paid for by industries like sugar and corn. This is widely known. And the science shows that eating all that pasta and carbohydrate they recommend shoots up your blood sugar, makes your body produce more insulin, and...wa-la, you're fat.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 03:59 PM
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"Thinking and feeling like a woman" is not an excuse for a lack of communication. Instead of saying "Oh well she's a woman", demand better behavior. Don't settle. Taking rings off is not going to cut it for solid communication. Yes have empathy for her but don't play her games, instead, bring her up to your level. She will love you for this and both of you will be happier.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 03:56 PM
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Which dietary guidelines? The USRDA? You know those are a joke right?
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 02:27 AM
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Who knows, maybe the guy was wrongly convicted or in jail for some lame crime where there was no victim.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 02:25 AM
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This is why marriage is a ridiculous concept on its face! "Together forever" by contract means a license to get lazy. Without the paperwork, you are forced to stay in shape and be desirable. With marriage, people get fat and lazy and often end up miserable.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 02:23 AM
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Hmm. I'm seeing this as inauthentic game playing. I'm happy that you kind of won her back, but get used to this kind of thing popping up forever. Marriage is a scam. Rings are just rings. Ideally, both of you can just communicate with one another like human beings, instead of playing games with rings. Obviously, you improving yourself made you more attractive to her. This, not marriage, is why she is still with you. I'm curious what your feelings are towards her. Did she improve herself for you …
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 02:21 AM
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You're putting words in my mouth. Yes, there are ways to make McDonald's, etc. healthier, i.e. throw out the bun, get the small fries, don't get a coke...but the point is it is not healthy on its own, even with the healthy hacks. I never said anything about Chipotle or the other places. I said "the usual suspects". Overdoing sodium is certainly unhealthy. Just google the ingredients in a big mac...you're overloading yourself with sodium. Yes a little extra salt is fine but we're talking obscene …
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 11:41 PM
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Wow, the part about marriage was dead-on! Marriage isn't even a natural state. Anything that is supposed to last "forever" can't be natural. Marriage should be like a driver's license. 5 years and you renew. I actually think this is so brilliant I don't know why people insist on signing contracts to agree to be "together forever". Rock had it right in the mid-nineties. Why does even the red pill crowd have a problem swallowing this one?
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 10:55 PM
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Most is too carby and has too much sodium, plus the quality of the meat they use is sub-par. I'm talking about the usual suspects McD's, Taco Bell, BK, etc.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 08:06 PM
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Agreed but why do you not like advising against fast food?
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 04:05 PM
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Forget about all the alpha and beta labels here and let's look at what's going on. You guys had a fling in college and you both remember it fondly. It wasn't 100% fulfilling for either of you so you went your separate ways at the time. But, you both miss parts of the fling. She's found another guy she likes but still misses you. Hence, you still hook up every now and then. She's into both of you two for different reasons. It's as simple as that. And this is a story that shows everything that's w…
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 03:42 PM
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Sorry that's a horrible book in my opinion. It puts us at odds with women. "That's just the way I am!" That's not a healthy way to act. Instead, check out Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent Communication. That can help you communicate effectively with people in general, and especially women.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/15 03:26 PM
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Agreed and even if you were to be stupid enough to get married, you still should keep funds separate.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 11:17 PM
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Hmm....she's hammering you about how much money you make? Huge red flag man, that's beyond shit testing (And I don't do shit tests anyway as they are themselves red flags). NEXT her all the way to the bank!
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 11:15 PM
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Hence, marriage is a fool's game. :)
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 02:32 PM
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Marrying to begin with is foolish for a laundry list or reasons. Marriage almost guarantees jealousy, for one, which is destructive for relationships. Better to go the LTR route but leave the fences open.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 10:26 PM
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Lame. Enjoy your downvotes.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 08:37 PM
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Bullshit. If you read my post, I said this has never been a problem for me attracting women. You have to get to know yourself and understand what you should change and what you can enhance. That's life.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:18 PM
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You're young. Keep learning through experience. Don't marry. Together forever is a myth. You will someday find an LTR but don't be tempted to put that "Forever!" stamp on it or it will either fail or be a struggle. Live in the present.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:16 PM
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"Tried" is the key word here. Most people have no clue how to raise children and use something based on how they were raised, which usually involved physical violence or at least verbal abuse.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:14 PM
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I like this post because I agree with most of it. I identify as about 75% introvert and not low confidence or low self esteem. However, I don't think categorizing Ozzy or Iommi as beta and alpha is very helpful. They both likely display tendencies of both. Think sliding scale when it comes to alpha-beta or introvert-extrovert. But I do like your point. Introversion is NOT a negative thing and I've had MANY women love that I am introverted and not extroverted.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 04:32 AM
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Disagree. Even if she says she accepted one of the sarcastic answers and dropped the question, she didn't really accept it. She wants to get that reassurance. How you do it is not to just say "No of course only you honey!". The way you do it is to say "What's going on, is there something you're not getting from me that you are needing?" Something like that. She will then say what it REALLY is. Something like "Yes. It's that I'm not sure if you are really committed to me." This is how a normal co…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:46 AM
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Tough one man. I would have asked her why she needed to know instead of the sarcastic humor you mentioned (i.e. do you know any hotties). There's a need behind her shit test that isn't getting met. Who knows what it is, my approach would be to simply ask her, "Ok. What's really going on sweetie? Is there something lacking that you'd like to see from me?" This allows her to feel empathy from you. She doesn't care about your answer. She wants to be heard/understood, and she's using this stupid thi…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:39 AM
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It's almost always the former, in my experience. Most parents just suck.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:29 AM
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Honoring The Self by Nathaniel Braden is a great book about how we develop views about ourselves.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:27 AM
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I actually find the opposite is also true. Girls that think their parents are wonderful and perfect are also problematic. They most likely haven't individuated enough and are very immature.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:26 AM
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My LTR doesn't believe in "the one" or "true love" and is definitely not jaded or damaged.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:21 AM
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Agree with a lot of these. As far as cutting ties with parents, I run into the opposite problem more often. WAY too attached to her parents and thinks they are the two best people on earth. This tells me she hasn't broken away and developed herself and experienced the world enough....and almost no chance she will be up to my level.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 03:20 AM
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+1. True and sad for society in general.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 09:05 PM
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Yes. If you do it for everyone. Bottling all your emotions is unhealthy. Selectively bottling them is not. I've already stated this. Disagree. Bottling emotions around an LTR, someone you spend a lot of time with, is very unhealthy. It's not like you're going to feel some emotion around your woman and walk out of the room and call your buddy to vent. You keep bringing up this strawman to strengthen your point. I've already stated that positive emotions are fine. You aren't making any headway by …
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 05:50 PM
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Sorry about your loss, but I don't understand how this proves AWALT. It's one woman doing shitty things and you caving.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 05:11 PM
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You still have yet to respond to my points and instead are asserting your own opinions here. It is scientifically proven that withholding emotions is physically unhealthy. Yes, fact. You make a claim that it is "objectively more likely" to end the relationship. And you get this "fact" from where? Yes, objectively, if you act robotically you will have robotic interactions. This applies to your LTR or your buddies or anyone. Again, if that's what you're after, that's perfectly fine. You can probab…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 05:02 PM
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Jealousy is not an emotion. It has to do with insecurity and anger. Positive emotions are also emotions. If you meant some emotions, you would need to say some emotions. Again for the 3rd time, yes I am saying that it is not just okay but important to express emotions with your LTR. If you aren't doing that, you don't have a very deep connection. Maybe that's not what you want, fine. But to say you "shouldn't" express emotions to your GF or LTR is just bad advice based on what I've posted. If yo…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 04:19 PM
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Again, this is not an absolute. Absolutism leads to misery most of the time. And again, this is perfectly fine with plates. I agree, do what you want with plates. Be robotic. Keep it mostly to sex if that's what you'd like. But sharing emotions with your LTR is essential if you want a fulfilling LTR. If done right this will enhance attraction, not kill it. Expressing weakness may be a negative, but expressing emotions is certainly not a negative. Whining or crying to your buddies is equally as w…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 04:05 PM
1

Hmm. Not understanding then. So you believe that "together forever" works? And that putting a license on this is a good thing but that modern day feminism has messed that up?
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 03:32 PM
1

As beta as I've been in my life, I've never done anything like this. Have never understood it. I typically have been with women who have really high sex drives, so it wasn't ever necessary to trade chores for sex.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:59 PM
1

This is not an absolute. While I do agree it's important to show strength and not fold under pressure or go crying to her with every little thing, holding back emotions is simply not healthy. This is scientifically proven. If you share some emotions with her and she pulls away, this is a red flag. Again, I'm not saying whining or playing victim against the world with her, but simply telling her your emotional state when it's important instead of stuffing it back inside of you is will create a mu…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:51 PM
1

LTR, yes. Marriage. NO.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:26 AM
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She will also age a lot faster than someone who took care of themselves during their 20's. The party girls have a blast for a few years and then quickly go downhill and scramble to lock down a guy into marriage. It's a sad world for these women actually, and for the guys they marry. Pam Anderson has the same history. This all stems from bad childhoods and growing up in a fucked up world. Just means we need to screen our LTRs like crazy. Actions need to have consequences.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:21 AM
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Nothing wrong with sharing feelings. It's healthy. This is where you went wrong from where I see it: Not to generalize, but Latina women are cray cray in the worst way. They will take you on a ride of your life and then burn your house down. It's like playing with a dangerous drug. It can be a fun time but I would suggest nevvvvvvvvvver setttling into an LTR with one and if you marry one, well, you will not be a happy camper. You are still thinking "together forever", which is a terrible thing t…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 10:58 PM
1

We may disagree on what marriage is I guess, but we agree on the conclusion. No point in getting married.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 10:50 PM
1

I disagree that marriage was ever a good thing, although it was the best they could come up with at the time. Marriage has failed miserably today, so we need to not participate rather than try to harken back to an earlier version of it or something.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 02:07 AM
1

Haha yeah thanks for catching that, just corrected it. :)
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 02:05 AM
1

What's STEM? The female point of view here rejects logic. Not saying they ALL do this but most will believe in marriage for reasons they can't even explain. It's bad for them too, but they've been taught since day 1 that they should be aiming for marriage. If you want to join women in lala no-logic land, then you will end up with a mess most of the time. My point is you can't just marry because it's too hard to explain to women all the negatives of marriage. You must stand up for yourself here, …
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 10:52 PM
9

Thanks for clarifying. Yes he did nothing wrong here, he was clear from the start he did not want children. This is a big issue that has come up with my LTR and I. She MIGHT want children, while I do not. It's causing me to think we might not be so "LT" now.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 10:06 PM
1

I don't think a power vacuum can ever persist. What I mean by that is, well, think about the way that government evolved. It originally developed as protectionism or simple assertion of force over others. You can never have a society with no imbalance of force. So there will always be someone who can exert force over others and control them for his own benefit. This is what we have now. A group of thugs ruling over everyone else. I'm proposing a much better system for everyone. A superior way to…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 09:24 PM
7

There's also studies showing that a huge percentage of women don't cum during sex.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:27 PM
11

Did he agree to have a baby with her and then get a vasectomy? I may have missed that part.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:18 PM
5

Yes but still a good reason among many for not getting married.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 08:15 PM
3

Just avoid marriage and you'll be better off. You simply can't put a contract to enforce "happily ever after". It doesn't work, and it never has worked.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 07:28 PM
2

Except for the little problem that most teen marriages end in divorce. Marrying young is not the solution.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 05:04 PM
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It's irrelevant what women want. And no not ALL women prefer marriage. But yes most prefer a huge expensive wedding, diamond ring, etc. Doesn't mean that it makes sense or will lead to long term happiness. Yes common law marriage happens but this again doesn't make it right. We're talking about what is the best setup in terms of relationships. Marriage, no matter what form, becomes involuntary. Agreeing to put a contract on a relationship that tries to ensure "together forever" is a pretty horri…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 04:22 PM
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Well that certainly is what we were brought up being taught. The truth is that government exists in every corner of the world, but that doesn't mean it's the best way to organize society. In fact, having government is simply a power-over domination structure even in "first world" governments. The citizens are forced to pay for many things they don't need, and even nefarious things like unnecessary wars. The problem is the idea that we can give some people the monopoly on violence, and then accep…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 04:18 PM
1

Or putting a contract that essentially says "together forever" on a relationship at all is a red flag.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:46 AM
1

Disagree. My point was that a voluntary LTR is a healthier setup than a marriage (which is much more involuntary after papers are signed), if you're after long term survival or just happiness. Neither route guarantee that, but so many problems come with marriage that there is no point to it.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 06:44 AM
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imagine the quality of woman that will have your children out of wedlock and compare that to LTR material My beef with this is LTR definitely does not have to mean marriage. Marriage is a social construct, LTR is a voluntary form of being in a relationship.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 03:56 AM
1

Hopefully this latest decline of marriage is the final collapse. Good riddance to an outdated, ineffective institution!
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 03:51 AM
1

I've always supported the idea that men get the short end of the stick when it comes to marriage contracts. That is just the tip of the iceberg as to why marriage is a raw deal (for both parties). The benefits of marriage are numerous and well researched and documented. According to who? This is easy to say since that sentiment is generally agreed upon by society as a "good thing", but the 50% divorce rate, the half or more of the rest of marriages being dysfuctional, and as we said, men getting…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 03:46 AM
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No guilt-trips, just raw facts that show how bad marriage really is. I think the laws are horrible, especially towards men However, I think what should be focused on more here is the actual concept of marriage and trying to put "together forever" in a contract, which as TRP knows, is impossible.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 12:40 AM
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You really think Kobe is "faithful"?
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 12:21 AM
2

Yeah, isn't it funny how thinks like AWALT are considered undebatable around here but for some odd reason marriage, totally not red pill, seems to be okay with many?
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 12:19 AM
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Totally agree, +1, and marriage is bad for everyone even women. The key with all of the marriage posts is we have to make sure to separate marriage from LTR. You can have a successful LTR, EVEN with kids. In fact it will likely be healthier than having a marriage with kids. LTR = voluntary choice to be in the relationship. Anyone can leave at any time and that's a GOOD thing, this means you AND your sig other will more likely be on your best behavior, unless you want them to leave you. Marriage …
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 12:16 AM
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Yes there is. It's called history. Yes, and history is filled with horror stories. A few at the top prosper, and many suffer. Marriage existed all along, yes, but certainly was not part of any great time. After hundreds of years. They were great civilizations. You don't think ancient Rome counts as a great civilization? Haha, sure, bud. Every great civilization embraced marriage. Fucking and reproducing willy nilly is for bush savages. Again, you need to define "great". Great for who? For the ru…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 11:49 PM
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I sign a contract so that in the case things go sour, there is a commitment to make things work first. Without a contract, there is no lasting consequence to negative behavior from either party. Cocaine Face is right. This is the problem, not the solution. The marriage contract gives her a license to act shitty. In a voluntary LTR, you must be your best self around the other person BECAUSE they can dump you otherwise. Relationships need to be all about choice if they are to be successful, not wa…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 07:52 PM
1

Marriage is certainly no guarantee your relationship will last forever. In fact, the statistics show it probably will end in divorce OR you will at some point not be happy with one another. Might as well not get married and see how long you can make the LTR last.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 07:50 PM
1

Well that could be true in terms of divorce rates but I'll bet it has nothing to do with "success" when it comes to the actual relationship.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 07:47 PM
2

As I’ve said before: Fuck diamonds, fuck weddings, and fuck legal marriage. I'm investing in Berkshire Hathaway stock instead. Haha very nice. Although I'm not sure BH is a good place for your money at this point. Bitcoin perhaps.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 07:46 PM
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There is no data to back up your claims. All of those empires you mentioned came crumbling down, and the majority of people in each one of those, including modern day USA, were not living the good life. Your examples actually prove my point than they do yours. Marriage is a horrible arrangement. I've given my proof as to why- "Together forever" is a fantasy, and all the contracts and rings in the world can't change this. You just keep saying how important marriage is without giving specifics.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 07:44 PM
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It's not a fantasy, it's a social arrangement that has worked exceptionally well in our culture for hundreds of years and is the foundational social institution of all great civilizations. Where is your evidence of this last part? Marriage certainly has been around a long time, but not forever, and not sure how you would measure a "great civilization". "Together forever" is a fantasy, and people are just recently starting to figure this out. Putting contracts on relationships has never "worked",…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 06:38 PM
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Marriage means you're signing a contract with someone saying you're going to be "together forever". How is that fantasy the answer? Here we go with left vs. right. This is exactly why voluntarism, not central planning, is the only answer to how to organize a society.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 04:43 PM
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I'm definitely in the middle.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 04:40 PM
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Completely not true. Have you traveled at all? I've been all around the world. Places like Cambodia and Indonesia. Almost everyone gets married by the time they're 18. If you don't, you are screwed in their societies. Completely different than the US. Marrige IS together forever. If not, why sign a contract? Just do your best without the contract. Sorry dude, our government is not "in check" by any means. I refuse to "fight for it", and there is no anarchy in Africa. Most countries are run by ti…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 04:33 PM
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No it would not. Marriage means "together forever, til death do us part", and two become one and all that nonsense. LTR can mean whatever you want it to mean.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 04:31 PM
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Yep. Marriage is a manufactured tradition and "together forever" is a myth.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 02:00 AM
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Uhh....check the facts, man. Marriage is much bigger in 3rd world countries than it is in western ones. "Society" will do just fine without government putting its stamp of approval on relationships. It's all based on tradition for tradition's sake. Think it through and "together forever" or getting a "license" for this is complete nonsense. Government is simply force. I disagree with the premise because it violates the non-aggression principle.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:57 AM
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I hear ya. It just seems a bit overdone around here. "I'm totally alpha!" "That guy is a beta pussy!" I think we can do better. It reminds me of politics on mainstream media. You're either "left" or "right" as if those are the only 2 valid opinions.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 12:49 AM
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Good points. You could also point to the divorce rate, or the fact that most marriages are dysfunctional....marriage is a bad idea no matter how you view relationships.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 12:38 AM
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Ugh. We don't have a "marriage crisis". Ridiculous. Marriage is part of the problem. Take the government out of our bedrooms and raising our kids, and you go a long way to solving the problems.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 12:38 AM
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I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about the concept of marriage. It stinks. LTR is fine, marriage, not so much.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 12:26 AM
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I don't think I'm "alpha" or "beta" but I'm independent and do pretty well and I'm only interested in women I can connect with physically and emotionally, and neither seems to be a problem. I think the alpha/beta dichotomy needs to be retired. It's too constraining and not accurate, as there is a sliding scale.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 12:25 AM
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Haha wouldn't surprise me, Big Brother (or Big Sis) knows best!
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 07:26 PM
1

Marriage has nothing to do with raising happy families.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 07:25 PM
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Yes. Uncommon, but not impossible. Screen your LTRs to extreme levels!
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 07:16 PM
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"...no sane woman is going to marry a guy who’s no good for her..." This is a major problem that's rarely addressed around here. There's a whole lot of non-sane women running around, and acting insanely. This is why it's so important to be very selective and not just say fuck it, AWALT so what does it matter how crazy my LTR is.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 05:54 PM
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BS. Getting married is a fool's game. Spin plates, get into an LTR, but NEVER get married. Yes, even if you want kids.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 04:20 PM
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Agree with everything you're saying except the idea that we need to have contracts and governments involved in our relationships. Substitute LTR for marriage and I would be fully behind you here.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/15 02:47 PM
1

Well that would certainly be an advancement in thinking, wouldn't it?
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 11:10 PM
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You don't need to sign contracts and get the government involved in any of that. Marriage isn't "red pill" at all. It's cow-towing to what the woman wants, and it is completely irrational. You can't possibly box up a feeling and think it's going to last "forever"- especially if you put it in writing. That's not how humans work. Kids are not an excuse. Yes it is better to have two happy parents raising them, but marriage does not solve this issue. Most marriages are unsuccessful whether there is …
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 09:19 PM
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No reason to marry, even with having kids. Most marriages are unsuccessful- whether you get divorced or not. The problem is "together forever" doesn't exist, yet, marriage tries to make it so. The reality is you cannot possibly know what you or your partner will be like in 5, 10, 20 years. Rings and ceremonies are just part of the facade. All you have is right now. Are you both happy with one another now? Great. Hopefully you will be tomorrow as well, and into the future. But to say "together fo…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 09:13 PM
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Disagree. It's her turn for me.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 09:03 PM
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Sorry about your divorce. :( Congratulations on getting divorced! :) Your life is about to explode with opportunities and freedom.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 08:48 PM
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Have fun with her. Don't get involved in political or RP discussions. Have empathy for her. She was likely abused as a child, mentally or physically, which led her to these views. Don't drop her over this, you can have a lot of fun and not tackle those issues head on- just realize that 99% she will never change.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 05:19 PM
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Not sure about the 99% but yeah it's definitely MOST of the time, if she's not texting back she's not interested. I think you're overthinking this. If she STARTS your relationship with game playing, it's time to move on. I don't care if you call them shit tests or AWALT or whatever, the games will continue on if you date her and manifest in different forms. I'm extremely selective and don't put up with BS like this. There are so many women out there and some refuse to play games like this. I rew…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 05:16 PM
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Good points. However, in my experiences, women give up very quickly and don't pursue if they don't get an early positive response. I had one girl that did this a little last year, she would invite me out every time, and I never would reciprocate...she was nice enough to hang out with but not capturing my interest. Eventually after this happened 3 times or something she gave up, no continual texts or "what happened?" type of stuff.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 05:10 PM
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Ain't that the truth! I really hate that one-way street. Men give women endless chances and women give men 1. "He said xyz, that's lame, I'm not returning his text because he must be a 'creep'." But then again, sometimes, if you're in, you're IN, and there's almost nothing you can do to screw it up.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 01:08 AM
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Somewhat agree, and I usually follow what you are saying- if she doesn't text back, I don't pursue and NEXT her immediately. HOWEVER, a couple things. One, this doesn't jive with some of the red pill teachings, like, you should "know how to pass her shit tests because ALL women will give shit tests." See, if you follow some of that stuff around here, you can look at a non-response as a "shit test" or a test of sorts and be skilled enough to navigate getting her out on a date anyway. I'm still wi…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 01:04 AM
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Haha that was pretty funny! +1. When I used to do online dating, I had some standard messages that worked pretty well. When she says where do you live? I would answer "I live in a cardboard box down by the stadium. If you're lucky I'll invite you over for dinner after we go dumpster diving." When it comes time for me to ask for her number I would say "Send me your number. I promise I'll only call you 17 times a day at first." Those disarm them and they then think you're "cool" because you're not…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 08:58 PM
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Ha. It's not women we are giving up on it's state-sponsored marriage.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:02 PM
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Right. But the big difference is women want marriage while many/most men don't.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:02 PM
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This chick sounds suuuuper shallow and annoying, and given that you said she's a 6/10, why are you wasting any time? If you're being honest, it sounds like you could do a lot better. Why lower your standards, just to get laid?
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:36 AM
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That lady is awesome. She "manned up" more than most men! Her solution is kinda lame (change the laws!) but her book is a nice start.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:33 AM
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Marriage is a total racket and an illusion. Millions of immature women get married every day, it takes nothing to "get married", sadly the relationship itself takes a back seat to marriage much of the time.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:19 AM
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either you build a system of government that attempts to mitigate the effect of the inevitable corruption This has been tried and failed. Again, as I said, government does not protect you and is corrupt, by nature. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. or you form no government and someone else will show up with guns and steal everything you have then probably enslave or kill you. These are simply your fears of other people coming to the surface. I doubt you go about your day using violence to get…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/15 04:05 AM
1

Forget about lines or direct/indirect. Just ask girls how their day is and take it from there. You will meet 10,000% more women and your odds of hooking up are about the same than if you were super smooth and funny and said everything exactly right. In fact the authenticity increases your odds of connecting.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 10:58 PM
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I quoted historical marriage stats in a discussion about the history of marriage. Every response you have on the topic is regarding that over 50% fail today which somehow negates the concept throughout all of history. Not every response. Some. Statistics are very relevant to the discussion. No, i never said i would be "for" slavery. Exact quote; "IF there was not a better system then slavery then we would have to live with until we found found a better system.". Notice how i said we would be "fo…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 08:44 PM
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You continue to quote modern statistics on marriage. These are irrelevant to the topic of discussion. Marriage statistics are completely relevant to the topic of marriage. You even quoted them earlier. Sorry but you are delusional if you believe that people will stick around for life without some pressure to do so when things are rough. What would keep a man around after a woman spent her youth raising children instead of pursuing a career? What incentive does a girl have to be in a relationship…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 02:54 PM
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I'm not going to google the statistics on child well being inside and outside of marriages. General consensus is that children from married homes do better in life. Either take my word on it, look it up yourself, or just sit there any deny it if you wish. Let's just look at marriages. 50+% end in divorce. At least half of the rest of them are unhappy. Neither situation is healthy for children. Marriage is no guarantee of anything. Is it likely that kids with 2 parents do better than kids with on…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/15 04:57 AM
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I dated a girl last year who was divorced and paying her ex's bills. No joke. And they had kids. And the guy didn't work! So you're right, it's not always the case that women make out better than men with divorce. Just avoid all of this by never getting married. It's a lose-lose situation.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 11:41 PM
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Since marriage is a lose-lose proposition it doesn't matter if they are suited for it or not.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 10:06 PM
0

Which is why...socialism, and marriage, don't work.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 10:02 PM
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There's never a guarantee of anything. Marriage simply makes the relationship less voluntary. Lose-lose.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 04:50 PM
1

Sorry, what are you saying is "false"?
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 04:44 AM
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Contracts don't mix well with relationships. As soon as you start signing contracts with a third party, it chips away at the relationship. You are no longer 100% voluntarily showing up for that person. Instead, you have some legal force to make you show up. It's lose-lose, even though yes, some "make it work".
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 03:20 AM
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But we have that now, with marriage. Marriage completely fails to insure that a man & woman will raise children. Without marriage, each partner would have to show up every day, no contract to fall back on.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 03:17 AM
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The marriage system has broken down, thus the foundation it provides is no weak. This is why marriage is cautioned against in TRP. While it is still the best option for raising children, the mechanisms that are necessary to mitigate the risks no longer exist in our society. The proper statement would "laws are one of many reasons marriage is CURRENTLY failing as an institution." How do you know it's the best option for raising children? That's a subjective statement without proof, not an objecti…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 03:15 AM
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Your refusal to acknowledge that the topic of discussion is the HISTORY of marriage shows this. Stating that marriage is a useless construct because the current marriage laws make it untenable is shortsighted and foolish. That's not what I said. Laws are just one of many reasons marriage fails miserably as an institution. Marriage is not and never was designed to make each person in the world happy at the individual level. It serves to provide a foundation for stable families. Part of this found…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 11:13 PM
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BTW, not trying to be a dick or anything but your comment karma is -33. You may want to try reading the NVC book and be more positive, helpful and empathetic towards people. You will be happier as a result and live longer.
/r/RedPillParenting06/03/15 06:51 PM
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Good to know.
/r/RedPillParenting06/03/15 06:48 PM
1

Abuse? Sounds like that's what you are doing. I hope you find some peace mate.
/r/RedPillParenting06/03/15 06:04 PM
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Ha! I'm not interested in "debating" someone who uses ad hominem attacks from ignorance. I hope you don't have kids.
/r/RedPillParenting06/03/15 03:59 PM
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There is no "anti-marriage dogma", at least that I've followed. I came to my conclusions based on experience and understanding what marriage actually is. It's a bullshit construct that doesn't work for anyone. Can women get a nice payday from divorce? Of course. Can they get the government to side with them? Yes. But are they happy? No chance. Very few women go into marriage with the idea that they will get a nice alimony check or checks from the guy in 10 years. It's built on an illusion of "to…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 03:58 PM
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I don't assume anything. I said MOST will suffer. This is true. Some will be smoking hot at 45. Others will decline at 35 and still be happy for several more decades. I have empathy for the ones who decline and are unhappy about it.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 07:16 AM
0

Incorrect. Marriage is certainly no guarantee of anything, that's all an illusion. Nothing positive in it for either sex.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 07:14 AM
1

It sounds like you're giving in to her whims then. Marriage is an irrational decision. You're basing a lifetime on how you feel about someone in the present. I'd rather not be married than to agree to it because she wants it- which isn't innate but drilled into her head by society since she was a little girl.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 07:13 AM
2

Of course you can't change who a person is, but it sure as hell matters if they grow up in a supportive environment or not!
/r/RedPillParenting06/03/15 07:11 AM
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Nope, I have no resentment or revenge mentality when it comes to getting bypassed by hot women. I already know they are having their moment in the sun and it won't last, no reason for me to wish they would decline, it's going to happen no matter what my attitude is. If you read my post you would see that I said to have empathy for these women. That's quite different than hoping bad things will happen to them because they rejected me.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 01:42 AM
0

I disagree that marriage is a great deal for women completely. Financially...maybe. But to have a great relationship, the woman loses out by bringing in contracts and government into the equation. Better to have it be a purely voluntary relationship, where both partners are actually showing up every day because they want to, and do not need a legally binding contract to ensure this.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 09:58 PM
0

Totally agree with not dealing with shit tests and calling them out. Disagree that kids need you two to be married. I think you could show them an even healthier relationship if you weren't married. Mainly because, you are saying "I voluntarily want to be with you today" every day you are together.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 09:55 PM
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Most will actually suffer, because most hot 21 year old women are under the illusion that their power as a hot chick will last forever, then come the 30's, and as things change, most will freak the fuck out. So instead of wishing that they'd suffer, know that they will and have empathy for their older, less attractive selves.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 09:41 PM
4

Sure. I feel the same way about reading posts here. Some go too extreme but it's nice to get an opposite or different perspective from the feminist world we live in.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 09:06 PM
2

Ok that's a different story than NEVER TALK TO WOMEN ABOUT FEELINGS, which is pervasive around here.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 08:40 PM
0

Ok but you're saying women aren't going to help and then a women helped you. License or not, she's still a women and AWALT right? I'm not buying this never talk to women about problems thing. I'm anti-marriage but pro-LTR and I think your LTR SHOULD be able to help you with SOME issues, otherwise, why not just make her a plate?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 07:47 PM
7

Ok. Solution is to 1) not join the military, and 2) not get married.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 07:45 PM
-4

Hell no. You'd be insane to take advice form most priests, given their history and the insanity that is taught in the Catholic church.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:26 PM
3

So you just disproved your first statement with your second.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:25 PM
5

That's very silly. I did therapy with a female psychologist last year and was 90% better after 3 months. I'm sure there are men out there who could also help me but to say women have no capability in this department is horseshit.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:25 PM
2

Dudes "cheat" on their wives back home all the time while deployed. The whole thing is an unhealthy arrangement.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:21 PM
2

The best thing would be if the government & MIC weren't always looking for war when it's completely unnecessary today. I'm sorry to hear about your PTSD and wish you the best.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:19 PM
2

War is fucking bullshit. That's all I have to say about this.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:16 PM
1

You're providing nothing in terms of backing your own claims, and then say what I'm talking about is "conspiracy". Instead of using blanket statements like that, please tell me where I'm wrong and what evidence you have to show this.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 06:15 PM
6

There are a lot of angry dudes in this forum that are lashing out at women in general, and calling out others for being "BLUE PILL BETAS!" instead of trying to improve themselves.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 04:29 AM
1

Yes but you will not learn about the Fed in college or university. You can use fancy expressions like "positive velocity of money", but they are quite simply printing money from thin air, which causes inflation and yes you and I pay for that. And, you are citing government statistics for inflation, total BS. They almost always lie about statistics. Try other sources. Go to shadowstats.com which will tell you inflation and unemployment are much higher than the government claims. Yes, the US gover…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:55 AM
0

Rand's philosophy was great but the problem is it didn't go far enough. She was anti-collectivist but believed in government and military. Oxy-moron. You can't have government without collectivism. Anarchy is the only path to peace and true prosperity. Check out the early works of Stefan Molyneux for this philosophy.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:01 AM
1

I didn't say Obama prints money. His economic policies are shit. You support the Fed? So you like getting stolen from. Fine. You like war? Fine, go fight in it. But don't demand that I pay for it. ISIS was created by the US government, just like Al Qaeda and the last boogeyman (Saddam anyone?) Stop funding terrorism with tax money and it will magically disappear. Continuing to pay attention the latest fear mongering on CNN means continuing terrorism. You just said the world is not out to get me.…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 02:55 AM
1

It happened with Bush and with Obama, actually.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 11:14 PM
2

More of the same bullshit, who ever is president really doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme. They all fuck us a little more than the last guy.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 11:12 PM
1

That strategy has never worked in the history of fuck-up presidents. People have short term memories and always elect an even bigger fuck up the next time round.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 11:10 PM
1

Wait a minute. What "ideas" does Obama have that have been "good" in any way? Your claims are completely not backed up by reality. Obama pretty much continued doing exactly what Bush was doing, printing money out of thin air, continuing pointless wars, continuing the war on drugs, wasting billions of taxpayer money and continuing to run up the deficit. Romney was the same thing wrapped up in a different package to give people the illusion of choice. I say the reverse is true. If you participate …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 10:41 PM
1

Yes but there always needs to be a new enemy. Hillary will attack somebody for some reason, and yes, this will continue the idiotic war on terror and make the MIC companies happy. "Freedom" continues.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 10:36 PM
4

I can't stand his voice or mannerisms. I see how people fall for his act though.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 10:34 PM
4

TRP is inherently politicized.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:23 PM
0

Simple. She wants to prove to everyone that she's not "weak". (even though, ironically it doesn't take much strength to send 18-20 year old kids off to some foreign land using taxpayer money). Beyond that there are mountains of evidence showing that Hillary is a war monger even worse than Bush Obummer.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 07:18 PM
4

“We elect a Republican president and government gets bigger. We elect a Democratic president and government gets bigger. We elect a Democratic Congress or a Republican Congress and government gets bigger. We are told “the era of big government is over” and government gets bigger. Welfare is reformed and government gets bigger. We’re told that Congress has made “tough budget cuts” and government gets bigger. Whatever happens, government just gets bigger and bigger and bigger." "Government is huge…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:36 PM
4

that theory "lesser of two evils" is what got us here in the first place. It's a loser. The idea that we have a choice is a complete illusion. Elections are for the most part, rigged. If somehow someone with a different agenda and better ideas came along, they would make SURE to keep them out of the running, one way or another, and feed the American people turd sandwiches....like oh say the last 18 presidents or so.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:29 PM
2

It's more important to simply be authentic than to time your texts.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:27 PM
4

Really? I think he sucks really bad and no I'm not a Bush supporter. What would make him a "great leader of men"? The president is all owned and controlled anyway. It's all a sham.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:41 PM
3

If Hillary is president it is gauranfuckinteed she will start another war.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:39 PM
7

They're all the same. R's and D's are just two sides of the same coin, out for YOUR money and out to control you.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:39 PM
4

The parties are the same including Rand Paul. All worthless. The very idea of gov't needs to be questioned. Why should they get to decide where our money goes? They waste it more than anyone. I say give up on politics and become interested in self-knowledge.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:36 PM
1

Of course we knew this was coming miles away. If you aren't for Obama you're racist. Since Hillary is god-awful, she has to play the sex card. If you aren't for her you're afraid of powerful women. I say fuck all of it. Politics is a complete waste of time. Better to spend your time doing, oh, 80 million other things than to pay attention to what these sociopaths want us to think. Nobody for president 2016!
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 05:34 PM
1

You've pretty much convinced me. I hate nightclubs and bars for the purpose of meeting women. And, my dating life got a lot better when I quit doing online and focused on in person events and coffee shop encounters. So yeah, in person>online 7 days a week. :)
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:23 PM
2

I'd rather not conform to society's standards and here is why. You start doing things that are "expected" to be attractive and pretty quickly you are trying to be somebody else. Most guys are running around trying to hide feelings and act stoic. Women are totally used to this. I would not say it is inherently attractive. I've had many relationships that some of the best moments were when we were both honest with our feelings. This is gold if you can do it. Hiding/holding back/acting tough can ce…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:21 PM
1

It's still playing games. Text back whenever you feel like it. If that happens to be miliseconds after she texts, have the confidence to know you are not needy and own it.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:14 PM
1

I can see how this would be okay with plates you aren't that interested in beyond sex, but if you're in a LTR and hiding emotions, I see no point- might as well just plate her and keep it surface level.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 04:12 PM
10

Therefore, many/most women are going through life unconscious. Kind of strange.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:41 AM
1

+10 Exactly! In 100 years, NO ONE will remember you, unless you go on a shooting spree or become president and get into a war. Pointless obsession.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:36 AM
10

Not discussing is still being a robot. Feelings are meant to be expressed. Yes, to women. It's not "beta" do do so. This notion of hiding emotions around women is unhealthy and needs to die. Again, I'm not saying to whine and cry to women but expressing emotions is certainly manly, and 100% healthy.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 06:29 AM
1

I never said I was against LTRs. It's marriage that's the problem. Have your partnership but don't sign contracts, get the government involved, and abide by traditions for tradition sake. This, my friend, is freedom and happiness- whether you are with 1 person your whole life or you are still spinning plates into your 90s.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 01:48 AM
1

Well good for you. I'm not cynical just looking at reality. Marriage is a failure as an institution. Can some "make it work"? Sure. But I say go with something with better odds. I like the non-marriage idea. Takes all the good things about LTRs and leaves out the messed up stuff about marriage (i.e. contracts, expensive parties and dresses, in-laws, divorce rape, etc). And yes- many people stay married for 40, 50, 60 years. Doesn't mean they have a successful relationship. And lastly, I plan on …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 01:46 AM
12

"Never put your hands in your pockets" Ha! Even when getting your keys out? Silly.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 01:39 AM
53

"Usually wait at least 10 minutes before responding to a text." Game-playing PUA bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 01:37 AM
36

"Never discuss your feelings or emotions." Ridiculous. You want to be a robot? I'm not saying you should go crying on her shoulder every night, but hiding emotions is not manly, alpha, cool, or even human. You have emotions, she has emotions, this isn't a "red pill" area....and for those of us who are in or looking for a LTR, this tactic ain't gonna work for long.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/15 01:36 AM
1

Sometimes. Often it's just random.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 10:24 PM
5

True, BUT, online the women are raising their hand saying they are single. So one is not really easier, it's just that if you happen to chat up a single, interested girl your odds go up 1000000000% on connecting with her vs. online in the sea of messages.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:39 PM
1

Match will die eventually. They currently are still raking it in simply because they were the name brand from the beginning, but they really don't offer a good experience especially for men.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:37 PM
1

Just deleted Tinder from my phone over this, not that I have used it in a few months anyway.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:36 PM
1

Yeah. Now they're going to try to sell SHIT! Haha.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:35 PM
1

Here's some stats on marriage. It's ugly. http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics/ First Marriage Survival (Probability of lasting more than 10 years) Probability Probability that a first marriage will survive 10 years 0.66 % – 1 in 15 If there was no birth during marriage 0.37 % – 1 in 27 If there was a birth before marriage 0.65 % – 1 in 15 If there was a birth 0-7 months after marriage 0.74 % – 1 in 13 If there was a birth 8+ months after marriage 0.79 % – 1 in 12 Cohabitation Leadi…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:22 PM
1

Yes before 30-40 years ago more people didn't divorce because of the stigma, and stayed together unhappily. Yes you are making a decision "for life" based on feelings in the present. Again you haven't answered me. The statistics are likely MUCH WORSE than I mentioned, because of all the people who stay together "for the kids", and all the unhappy married couples who simply stay together out of fear of the unknown, not wanting the stigma of divorce, and a host of other reasons. Marriage has faile…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 09:15 PM
1

That doesn't really answer my question. Why marriage? 50%+ marriages end in divorce. Out of the rest, at least 50% are unhappy, probably a lot higher. What makes you special that you can beat the odds? What's wrong with not getting married? The kids know when their parents are unhappy and staying together "because of the kids". Better to split at that point, but marriage makes it messy and difficult. Why can't a partnership, as you say, be official without signing a contract to stay together wit…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 06:15 PM
1

Interesting. If you two were in love and happy, why did you get married? Since, you can't know what the other person will be like in 10, 15, 20, 25 years, how can you make a lifelong decision based on how someone is in a snapshot of time while you're dating? Contracts and rings don't make time freeze or change the likelihood of staying together, so I don't understand the point. Just makes things messier when you split, and more forced when you're together.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 03:58 PM
1

Ok that makes sense. Except I don't think caring someone more than for yourself is ever healthy. Do you think love like what you described can continue indefinitely?
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 05:29 AM
5

Complete bullshit bro science. Vaginas don't "stretch" in a permanent way no matter how many and how big dicks they've had. Those things are designed to tunnel a baby through, and even then it goes back to its original size.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 05:11 AM
0

Not following. If you're "plating" women as is recommended on this forum, you better damn well believe they are also spinning plates in their own way. You knowing this is not "beta".
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 05:10 AM
4

Marriage is a horrible idea with or without LTR experience, so it's hard to say.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 05:06 AM
1

Also, sometimes this idea that "don't show ANY signs of weakness or insecurity" is exaggerated and untrue. For example, there have been times where I know a girl is into me and I can say or do just about anything, including fumble, mumble, forget what I was going to say, whatever, and I'm still IN. Always depends on the context of the situation.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 04:39 AM
1

Partly true, but also true that the vast majority of women have lots of insecurities of their own and are terrified of "opening up" to you emotionally.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 04:38 AM
2

Just curious. What is love to you?
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 04:32 AM
0

Am I a unicorn? I much prefer women in their late 20's/early 30's.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 04:29 AM
4

Sure, but online dating has made overinflated SMV turn into obscene levels of SMV perception. A girl that's a 4/10 by any definition can jump online had have emails from guys wanting to fuck her within minutes.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/15 04:27 AM
5

And then you get on a VPN and it's spank city. Nobody cares what the government does in those countries, it's pretty comical.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 11:41 PM
7

That was a good read. Not sure about your porn comments, porn is 100% online now so it's available to everyone in the world and I'd be willing to bet that Indians with internet connections download porn at similar rates to the rest of the world (okay maybe not Utah...). I would also say that you don't have to go as extreme as India to not be boring. Most Americans will be highly impressed if you go to Thailand, even though it's on the tourist trail. It's still WAY more exotic than what 98% of pe…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 09:12 PM
-4

16 yos would bore the hell out of me. I don't even like 21 yo's for that reason. A girl needs a little real world knowledge under her belt to be attractive to me no matter how hot physically.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 02:21 AM
-3

Are you kidding me? Women who are 30+ HATE when I mention this formula, and think it's absurd that I would date someone half my age plus 7, but it's about right! Right now I'm a little more like plus 8 or 9 but no, today's women are NOT promoting half age + 7. Seriously you would be interested in 16yo's if legal?
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 01:52 AM
4

Reading your posts makes me think there needs to be a "Red Pill 2.0". Cherry picking some of the red pill stuff that is good (i.e. Oneitis, romance, feminism's impact, etc.) and adding some of the stuff we are discussing here I think is the next wave.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:38 PM
8

This is actually a decent post despite the fact that it is riddled with insults. Unhealthy women behaving unhealthily are a dime a dozen. High value women are no behaving in this way or like you said, posting on Yahoo answers!
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:30 PM
1

One more thing to add that you touched on that NOBODY is talking about with all of this. Most of the girls that are being gamed in TRP land are mentally damaged. Guys will say "AWALT" and "Dread Game" and shit like that but all of these things "work" on damaged people. Yes there are a LOT of damaged women out there. But not "all". And some are much healthier than others. The idea of "passing shit tests" from mentally unstable women has zero interest to me. Have you ever dated someone who did not…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:16 PM
-1

Thanks for bringing some actual rationality into play here. Totally agree.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:10 PM
16

The problem with this is, despite the rhetoric, most guys are not 100% alpha or 100% beta. It's a sliding scale and most fall somewhere in between.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:00 PM
1

Yep. The Wall is location and diet-dependent, among other things.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 07:58 PM
1

What I meant by "clowndom" was the opportunity to be her clown.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 07:56 PM
1

And if she's selling clowndom, I ain't buying. :)
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 03:43 AM
2

Yeah I've seen other parts of the country and it ain't pretty what happens to women past like 22. It's mostly a mindset. Many feel they should start having babies by 21 and let themselves go.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 01:37 AM
16

I'd actually rather do that than to be somebody's clown.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 01:13 AM
10

College is a different story as your world exists in a bubble, not reality. I can tell you I'm 43 and options have never been greater. It only gets better if you're a man. We don't have a Wall. :)
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 10:37 PM
33

Is that really what you want? I see no joy in being her clown.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 10:35 PM
24

Right!!! +5. This is exactly why marriage does not work. Contracts are signed and rings on fingers, everyone gets lazy and most go on auto-pilot from that point forward. NEVER marry.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 08:20 PM
2

Wow. They should divorce. "The baby" is not a good reason to stay with someone unhappily. Maybe your cousin needs that wakeup call, as she probably thinks he could never go anywhere.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 08:17 PM
5

You're young. You learned. Nice that you didn't wallow too long and are moving on. However, ALL women aren't "the same". If they were, dating & gaming girls would be pretty boring. MANY women act a certain way in certain circumstances. Anytime someone says "ALL" anything I cringe.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 08:13 PM
1

Exactly. To say a man has more to choose from than women after age 26 is nonsense where I'm from. 27 year old hotties have the world at the palm of their hand. Around here it's not until around age 36 where the tables start to turn.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 07:44 PM
6

Yes but this is the online dating fantasy world. Women online will say the guy needs to be 29-32, 6'0 or taller, make $80k+, etc. etc. but in real life they are mroe than willing to date short 42-year olds who they have no idea how much money he makes.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 05:27 PM
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I disagree with this and say it's location-dependent. For example, a hot 32 year old in southern California still can get just about any guy she wants. In socal there's not a HUGE difference in SMV between a 21-year old hottie and an early 30s hottie. Just because in other areas women's looks fade after 25, doesn't mean women can't hang on to good looks a LOT longer than they do on average. Subsequently, a 26 year old guy does not have an easy time here and still runs into the majority of late 2…
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 05:25 PM
9

Online dating was the worst thing that ever happened to men. Even HB 5's and 6's get flooded with suitors, and get their egos over-inflated, allowing them to have an abundance mentality created by desperate, wussie men who hide behind their computers and phones to try to get dates.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 01:10 AM
1

I used to listen to it until he called Bitcoin "tulip mania". Totally ignorant statement out of someone who didn't even research it.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/15 01:04 AM
9

Aaaannnd so if they guy "passed" her shit tests, what would that get him? Another date with a bitchy overly arrogant woman who wants him to pay for everything? No thanks.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 09:56 PM
8

Why in the world would the OKC OP WANT to pass her "shit tests"? She sounds like a disaster. So let's say he "passed". What does that get him? Another horrible date with her? 35 BTW isn't that old if you're in southern California, that can look pretty good actually....and often does come along with total attitude. This is simply a lesson in do a better job screening your online dates so you don't have to endure one like this.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 09:54 PM
1

That sounds like you're making a rule. Did I say these women had to be non-sexual with you? Connection with women is farrrrr different than connection with your buddies. These are two different human needs. You need both. Not one vs. the other. It sounds like you have a hard time connecting with women. Pump and dump is not fulfilling, at least not for long term. LTRs are not blue pill on their own. You have to understand yourself a little better and what works for you and not go around proclaimi…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 09:16 PM
1

You gave me articles with opinions and cherry picked data. You didn't respond to my points about marriage. You can go back and see what I said. You may think you love marriage, but you haven't shown me anything that disproves my points. It's a trap, man. Think about what you're doing before you do it. There's nothing in it for you.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 09:11 PM
1

Schiff is right about the gender pay gap myth, but he's been wrong about so much that he lost credibility a few years ago.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:21 PM
19

"Women are designed to be provided for" Link? Are men designed to fuck every woman in site? Are humans designed to kill each other? Come on dude we have a choice here, this is just making excuses for bad behavior.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:18 PM
1

You haven't even responded to what I posted. I presented some solid ideas and you copied and pasted a couple of articles. You didn't provide "data", you provided articles with a mix of opinions and cherry-picked statistics. "Together forever" is a lie. You can't defend it because to do so, you would have to be able to predict the future. You can't, no one can, which is why most marriage fail either by divorce or living unhappily together.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:17 PM
-1

Women don't destroy the idea of marriage. The idea has already been destroyed, it no longer is applicable to today's society. Marriage is just another sham foisted on society.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:15 PM
4

Spot on, and nothing that a good dose of anarchy won't fix. I'm not being facetious- government itself is the problem. Humans are autonomous by nature, and having a centralized system of domination and control simply does not work, and leads to the exact problems we are discussing here. Government is just human beings. They are supposedly superior to us, allowed to use violence against us, legally to support a corrupt system? These are mere politicians I might add, some of the greediest types of…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:13 PM
1

Hopefully religion & government.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:05 PM
3

Sorry you got burned. Empathy does not mean things will work out for you, or that the other person will receive or appreciate your empathy. Empathy is about YOU, and your mental health. Giving empathy to people allows you to live peacefully. Sometimes the other person will see this and want to give empathy back. Win-win. But yes other times they can still do you wrong. Empathy doesn't mean approval, and it is not a strategy to change people or to get in girls' pants. Think about it next time you…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 04:40 PM
1

americanvalues.org? Come on man. A lot of opinions in there, not a lot of scientific backing to them. With all your articles, you still have yet to refute anything I have said. Marriage is a trap. Skip the shenanigans and focus on having a healthy relationship instead.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 04:31 PM
6

Good post. Feminism sucks, government sucks, we live in a fucked up world so take those red pills and wash them down, life is good when you are aware of reality and work with it, instead of letting it work you over.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 03:16 AM
1

"Red Pill" is not about penises and vaginas, it's about uncomfortable truths. Government sucking is one of them. (technically "TRP" doesn't have an opinion about anything).
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 02:04 AM
1

I guess you don't know what empathy means. It's NOT sympathy. It's simply understanding (or trying to understand) the struggles of another. Women are human and have struggles, even ones that are 10/10 on the looks scale. You can't change or save them but you can certainly have empathy and treat them as human. Otherwise, your life is going to be pretty difficult and angry.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 12:49 AM
1

The government are just a bunch of control freaks, no matter if it's drugs or sex or telling you what you should believe. Red Pill means understanding how worthless and wasteful gov't is.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 12:47 AM
1

Marriage means signing a contract with another person AND the government saying you'll be with that person FOREVER. Does that make any sense to you? Yes, some people "make it work". Others claim to be happily handcuffed to their partner. But let's talk about the majority. More than half get divorced. Of the other half, at least half of them are unhappy with their partner. That's at least 75% failure rate. Would you jump out of an airplane if you were given a 25% chance of your parachute opening?…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 09:07 PM
3

Agreed +5. Don't do it. NEXT these women quickly and let them go. No reason to try to change or save anyone. Still....also have a little empathy. Don't date craziness but also I think it's good for everyone to empathize with them. I think many guys swing too far one way or another. It's either FUCK HER or I WANT TO FUCK HER. Let's find a healthier way to deal with these women. Give them empathy and don't get involved.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 07:03 PM
2

No societal constructs exist in reality. Government included. They are made-up. Marriage was designed by governments to control people. It has no reason to exist today other than tradition. Most people are simply brainwashed to think it's natural. It's not. Because marriage has been around for a while, doesn't mean it's healthy. Just look at the dismal numbers. And, how can you believe in "together forever"? That's another thing that does not exist. It's people's fantasies. You can't know what y…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 05:14 PM
1

Marriage is a societal construct, not something that exists in reality. It's original formation was intended for ownership and control, and to make sure the offspring is off the man's. Having sex is natural. Getting married is normal. But getting married is not natural. Marriage takes contracts, government, rings, big, expensive parties....these are in no way natural.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 06:10 AM
2

You may be "alpha" and have "plates", but do you have any strong connections? I'm not saying LTRs, just women in your life that you have good, solid, uplifting and fulfilling connections with. That could be what's missing.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 12:11 AM
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Here's one article: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/8308/to-have-and-to-cuckold Let me know what you think. I say even if it's 1%, that's ridiculously high, considering how hard it really is for women to get pregnant.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 11:57 PM
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That would not surprise me! Simply because I've heard people claiming that the actual divorce rate is less than 50%...but they are taking divorce rates per INDIVIDUAL, so that is completely deceiving now that fewer people are getting married! Less marriage=less divorce, but marriages aren't any more solid than they used to be.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 11:54 PM
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You're citing the law. I'm talking about what is natural. Marriage is not natural, kids or not, legal or not.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 06:33 PM
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Wrong. More than half of marriages end in divorce, and/or are unhappy. So you either have kids being raised by a single parent or by 2 unhappy ones. Not marrying won't solve this 100% but marriage is not some panacea for good parenting and really doesn't help kids.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 05:47 PM
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Incorrect. It's been proven that a huge number of children born to married women have different fathers than the husband. Marriage in no way shields you from women cheating. Not to mention, the huge divorce rates and single moms.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 05:46 PM
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DON'T EVER GET MARRIED! There's nothing in it for you. Think about it. It's NORMAL in our culture to marry, but not NATURAL. It's a made up thing by society. The rings, the contract with the government, the huge expensive party...it's all a deception. We can be happy with members of the opposite sex without all this nonsense, in fact, that stuff just makes it less likely you will be happy.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 05:43 PM
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Very true. Which is again, another among THOUSANDS of reasons no one from either sex should get married. There is zero reason for it, marriage is a social construct. Yes it is NORMAL, but marriage is not NATURAL. Huge difference that eventually, people will learn. (although, with the divorce rates at 50%+ and most of the rest of the relationships in terrible shape, not sure why people still believe in this fantasy).
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 05:40 PM
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The Wall also varies by area, in terms of when women hit it. I spend most of my time in southern California. The girls here (near the coast), for the most part, do not start slipping significantly until 34 or 35. There are many factors and reasons why this is: The beach draws beautiful women who try hard to keep in shape and looking healthy and young. It's uncommon in California to settle down, get married, and have kids before you're 25. Most women hold out until they are in their 30's. This me…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 01:25 AM
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Dude. This girl is 26 not 46. If she's really declined that much like you say, she's headed for granny status by the time she's 30!
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 01:11 AM
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We definitely can't control the behavior of others, but we can be more selective about who we date and not just say it's ALL this way, or ALL that way, i.e all mens fault for this, all women's fault for that.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 10:17 PM
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Interesting that you believe women are out of control robots. I don't think that's what is "central to this sub". We all have things that are hard wired. We are hard wired to urinate when we get the urge to. But most of us can find our way to a toilet and not just pee where we are standing. That doesn't mean women have zero responsibility for idiotic friendzoning.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 07:29 PM
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That has nothing to do with my point. Again, friendzone is not 100% men's fault. I outlined why this is in my post above. Where do you disagree?
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 03:55 PM
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The problem lies on both sides, no question.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 03:09 AM
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Misleading. Let's say you have a date with a girl. Let's say you are wanting an open relationship. Yet, she's never even considered such a thing, like most women. If you lead off with "I'm about open relationships", she's outta there, 99/100 times. However, if you ease her into it, it's possible to have your cake and eat it too.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 03:03 AM
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Uhhh...nope. OP claimed that friendzone is 100% mens' fault. If you read my comment I was not arguing that it is 100% women's fault, but instead that they contribute to the nonsense. To say that it's ONLY the fault of the guy is to make believe women are robots and can't control their behavior. That's what I would call "plugged in".
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 12:32 AM
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Ha. Funny how you keep telling me I "don't know what a harem is", then you can't explain it to me, nor do you have an answer to my point about condoms. Guess this thread is BS like bludreaction said.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 10:58 PM
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Well sure, you can skip the condom if: Everyone in your harem has been tested and is clean. Everyone in your harem is ONLY with you (no guarantees with an oral agreement) You don't care if you get an STD Otherwise, sacking up is necessary. If you have 3-5 women in your harem, there's a huge chance that one or more of them are NOT just with you, no matter what they tell you. So that would mean regular testing. Lots of hassles. Not saying it's not worth it, but it's a consideration before trying t…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 10:21 PM
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I think you are responding to someone else here. My comment was simply about condoms vs no condoms. I did not make a claim about harems, which it sounds like what you're arguing about.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 10:00 PM
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Interesting. Good looking women have the world in the palm of their hand when they are 18-34-ish. 16 years of having a massive amount of power. At 27, a woman can treat 99% of men like shit and still have all the sex she wants and land a rich good looking guy. At 27, men have a much tougher time dating girls their age, often get ignored and end up marrying because they don't think they have options. The tables then start turning in mid-late 30's. At 40, men can easily date women in their 20's. B…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 09:55 PM
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Aaaannd what makes you think that? What about responding to my actual content?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 09:34 PM
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What you say is true BUT.... Women do contribute to the problem. Example: If you went out with a girl who you really liked and had a great time with, but she wouldn't tongue kiss you at the end of the date, would you immediately put her in the friend zone and assume she wasn't into you? I've had that experience many times, and on the 2nd date they completely open up sexually. I would have missed out had I said "She must not be interested!" But women do the equivalent of this, mistakenly, all the…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 08:45 PM
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"Women are not monogamous" is an incorrect statement. Have you done the research to know that every woman on the planet is not monogamous?
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 08:35 PM
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Ahhh I agree but you're missing one crucial element: The necessity of condom usage in the harem scenario. I dislike condoms so much that I would forgo many of the benefits to have naked sex with someone who has been tested, and I KNOW does not have any STDs.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 08:34 PM
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Ahh you're right! Total Recall invented the red pill, and the Matrix added the blue pill. In TR the red pill WAS representing the truth to the guy offering it. So the Matrix copied TR. :)
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 03:27 AM
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Definitely there was a red pill and blue pill in Total Recall, 9 years before The Matrix. Not sure about anything else but I'd be surprised if it started with Total Recall.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 09:16 PM
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You're not understanding the meaning of cuckold or what I was saying. Cuckold is when men are in 1 LTR with a woman who strays. They know this and do nothing about it. What I'm referring to is similar to an open relationship. The difference is, with fenced/unfenced, you can have the fences open, but choose (with your LTR) not to exercise your option. It's a much more honest way of doing things, as opposed to 99% of relationships where the couple agrees to exclusivity and eventually one or both "…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:54 AM
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Haha yeah right. I'm just asking the question since the cheating I have known about in my life usually involves large quantities of alcohol.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:47 AM
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Sure, but to what degree? I'm guessing it would be a lesser one. People get drunk and lose their capacity to make rational decisions.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:46 AM
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Yes. My post was a question, not a hypothesis. Would there be FEWER bad decisions, i.e. straying from long term partners without alcohol?
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:46 AM
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Yes. I was saying if you stripped alcohol out, I wonder if clear thinking would prevail more of the time. I.e. woman wired for hypergamy, is attracted to alpha guy, wants to sleep with him, doesn't, and instead discusses with LTR in an honest fashion, vs. woman wants to sleep with alpha guy, gets drunk, oops, well it's "no big deal", and never tells LTR about it.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:44 AM
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Agreed and that's not what I said.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:42 AM
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I wasn't suggesting alcohol "makes people cheat". I'm saying it plays a role. Not blaming alcohol, more saying that without it, there would be more clear decision making, and less "It just kind of happened" BS.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 01:42 AM
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There are different kinds of LTRs. You can have one where the fences are open. You're ALLOWED to see other people. Doesn't mean that you will exercise that option. But it's not off the table. Then there are those with fences close. You CANNOT see others. Doing so means you violated the agreement. I think what we need to do is move towards a model that considers these two as options, and KNOW what you're getting into.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 09:23 PM
1

Actually red pill/blue pill has been around long before the matrix.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/15 09:18 PM
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I see nothing wrong with you getting an escort, it's not "beta" or "alpha", it's just an exchange of value. Millions of guys do it all the time in paying for their women every time. Anyway just a word on Asia. If you are a white (or black) guy in his 30s and you are at least somewhat good looking, you will have women chasing you in many countries there. In places like Vietnam, the tables are turned, and white guys do the choosing because they love the westerners there, and will chase you. The go…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 03:39 PM
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I agree with that and it doesn't contradict what I said.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/15 02:11 AM
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Sure that is fine if you want little or no emotional connection with her but sometimes you WILL want that, you are human. Meeting her friends and introducing her to yours CAN be fun, if it's the right girl. One-itis is putting the blinders on to any negative traits she may have and going full throttle.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 09:30 PM
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You did it right. Best never to get sick. Get mid-day sun, exercise, take extra vitamin D, and don't drink too much or eat too much sugar. These things go a long way in staying healthy. But it still happens. Not a big deal, happens to everyone. Accept the down time. Don't beat yourself up. Enjoy the Netflix and video games and know that you'll be back again in time. Gotta rest up when you're sick. Muscling through it is a bad idea.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/15 09:24 PM
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I liked a lot of this but this one didn't resonate: "You are the rock, the consistency, the order in her chaos" To be "the order in her chaos" sounds like an awful job. I wouldn't want to be that, would you? It's way too much responsibility. I'd rather have her be independent but not chaotic. I've dated chaotic women and while in some respects it is fun, ultimately that's way too much stress and inconsistency for my taste.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 06:18 AM
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"...but only 25% of these men seek help, as opposed to 59% of women, showing that men only seek help when they really need it." "When they really need it" is a completely subjective statement. Most guys I know don't get help with that kind of thing because they are too embarrassed, because they might be looked at as weak. That's not strength, that's weakness.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 06:08 AM
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I get what you're saying but Draper is a complete basket case, playing a role of an exec that has everything together. Draper chain smokes and can't go an hour without a drink. His life is a terrible mess of lies and deceit. His psychology and physical health suffer from it. This is all due to his horrible upbringing that haunts him regularly, which is clearly why he has a drinking, smoking, and sex addiction. But yes he is smooth, and gets laid whenever he wants.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 04:42 AM
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I can vouch that the 40's is the BEST decade so far for dating. AMAZINGLY most quality women don't care how old you are and many younger ones prefer an older guy who has his shit together.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 04:32 AM
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Not at all. Government are made up of simply people. Your model says that people cannot self-govern. But then you say we need a government, made up of these same people that can't govern, to govern everyone. Makes zero sense. Somalia is a country that has always been based on tribalism. The US has never been based on tribalism. Apples/oranges. The dream is thinking we can have a power-over structure that works, that somehow, with the so-called "right" people in charge we can have utopia. The rea…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 10:45 PM
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We do have roving gangs with guns. They're called cops. They don't prevent crimes. The military inflames groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda by drone bombing innocent people. It doesn't prevent them. Somalia has been at war for several decades, horrible analogy. They have actually done BETTER when they have no government vs when the UN installs a puppet gov. Fear is why the government exists. People THINK they are protected, but this is not the case. Your fears of people around you prevent you from em…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 07:08 PM
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Ok so he's saying marriage is okay because he is 40 something but not good for 20 somethings? I don't get it. Marriage IS the myth of happily ever after. It puts you in a contract with your wife & the government. Not much good can come out of that, and it makes the relationship somewhat involuntary.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 03:31 PM
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"It's not perfect" is a copout. Your money gets extracted to pay for drones to bomb the middle east, not just waste. Success comes despite the government, not because of it. They are not here to protect anyone, they are here to take their cut. If their so-called "services" were so essential, why must they force everyone to pay for them? Newsflash they ARE stealing your money via taxation and inflation. When was the last time some cop stopped a robbery from happening? That almost never happens, i…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 03:28 PM
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"Rules" are for sheep. Nobody that's successful follows the rules. And the idea that government schools educate us is laughable. -Steve Jobs didn't follow the rules and made billions -Bill Gates didn't follow the rules and made billions -Tim Ferrriss didn't follow the rules and is ultra-rich, has a huge following and travels the world. -Guys that get women don't follow the rules of dating, and they get laid way more than guys who try to follow the rules & play nice. Nope, paying for shit that yo…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 12:15 AM
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Yeah but the guy that wrote The Rational Male is married for 18 years or something. Not sure how he justifies that, marriage aint red pill.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 12:03 AM
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We're all slaves. Taxes are extortion at the point of a gun. Slavery.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 12:01 AM
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It sounds like you hold the idea or institution of marriage in some high regard. I don't. Dating and plating are the same to me. I may be dating 2 or 3 women. They are my plates. I give them all respect and don't plate or date lying whores. But nor do I ever want to marry them. Marriage is for fools. Men have nothing to gain by marrying, and everything to lose. "Together forever" is a myth, so is the idea that we somehow need the government to give their stamp of approval on our relationships.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 11:39 PM
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Well then it shouldn't be AWALT it should be MWALT.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 10:26 PM
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Plating and dating are the same thing, just different terms. You don't have to be pro-marriage to date women.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 10:24 PM
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Bullshit. Behavior and being attracted to someone are 2 different things. It's like saying you have no choice but to grab the ass of a HB10 because she has a hot ass. Thinking someone is hot and actually applying learned shit tests are quite different things.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 09:13 PM
1

Good points. For good things to talk about I would include travel. Family doesn't usually excite me, but a lot of interesting girls travel and love to talk about it.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/15 01:11 AM
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"Shit testing is in a girl's DNA" But they had to learn it somehow. I'm not saying what the OP did was right, but if indeed she was a gold digger, not playing the shit test game was 100% the right thing to do. They need to unlearn this nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:56 PM
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Yeah this is like getting a hooker but paying for her in small chunks throughout the night and still have to talk to her long enough to get her back to your place. Prostitute would be cheaper and more efficient.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:54 PM
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I kind of agree with this but, I don't think Tinder is as shallow and ONS-driven as you are saying. In my experience, women want to qualify you even more on Tinder because of the connotation to this. I'd love to see a study on this sometime of perception of Tinder vs Reality.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:51 PM
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Not really. I guarantee you she went crying to her GF's and blamed "men" after this.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:47 PM
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Not playing the game and deciding who you will and will not date is much more "being a man" than playing games with silly shit tests.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 10:45 PM
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Funny I said this in a different way earlier and got downvoted. Just shows you how emotional some guys on this forum are.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 08:42 PM
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Good points. Believing that men are "superior" to women will lead to more frustration and anger towards women, whether you are getting laid or not.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/15 07:58 PM
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Complaining about not getting asked out, bitching about men not doing anything is taking 0 control of your own destiny. Lose a little weight, read a book or two, and mayyyyyybe even be okay with approaching a guy once in a while that you have interest in, and you will have a happier, more fulfilling life. Anything else is just externalizing your problems.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 11:31 PM
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Name calling just shows how sad/angry a person you are. Of course society has a role in shaping people. Chill out.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 11:29 PM
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Believe what? That girls can just as easily ask men on dates but don't because of societal pressures? Show me how I'm wrong.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 09:26 PM
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Wow. The fact that women (especially hot ones) rarely ask men out is not some hardwired thing. It's more societal BS programming that women were taught growing up, that gave them low self esteem and made them think they just need to look pretty and that's all that matters. I say people- men and women- should just go for what they want. No games and no concerns over what others will think. When would you ever be annoyed by a girl who asked you on a date?
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 06:46 PM
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Agreed. There's some misunderstanding around here about shit tests. You're 100% correct when you say "Why would any man in his right mind, want to be with a woman who constantly shit-tests and belittles him?" However, there are guys on this forum that think as long as you KNOW it's a shit test, you have to deal with it because of course "ALL" women will do that. Which is where I call bullshit. I don't do shit test. Sure I know SOME women play those games, but I'm not going to just roll over and …
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 04:05 PM
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Not specifically directed at the OP but more in general: I don't understand why guys have a problem with the idea that some women will wait 3 or 4 dates to have sex with a guy but bang a guy in on vacation within hours or even minutes of meeting him. Rollo makes a big deal of this in his book but I don't get the problem. If I started dating someone who it took 4 dates to bang and then found out later that she had sex with some random guy in Cancun who she barely knew, I wouldn't care less! Why? …
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 05:11 AM
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I have, but that's beside the point. If a hot woman declined by 1% between 21-31, she's still hot. The point is there are plenty of hot 30 somethings and some hot 40 somethings...you gotta know how to pick em if you're going LTR.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 02:20 AM
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You don't know any hot 31 year olds? I'm not denying that looks fade but it's ridiculously picky to knock "over 30" women, when even some who play it right are still hot "over 40".
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 12:22 AM
1

Still, barely anyone was using Instagram in 2010!
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 12:16 AM
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Suicidal? I've never met a guy who doesn't find them annoying. Yes of course I use them anyway. It think you missed my point. Plates will get condoms, I only take them off for an LTR who I know doesn't have diseases and is using BC.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 03:11 PM
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Nice post! Well I usually don't friend plates on FB for a LONG time, so I'm not worried about my pic appearing with this one a few times. Yes I'm dating and there are pics of us. I've also been changing settings on FB lately so less people can see my stuff. As far as AWALT, I'm not as versed with it as you are, but I guess I have a problem with the word "All". There are always exceptions of course. And, you can say that all women may be wired to do something but if only 70% of them act on it, wh…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 04:30 AM
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That's the other thing. Condoms are pretty damn annoying so sometimes it's an issue of spinning plates with protection or LTR'ing bare back with one...and that can be a tough choice to me.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 04:11 AM
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This is similar to how I am. A lot of guys say, "don't lie" but then say to dance around the truth. That's a fine line. I like to leave a little mystery, but also don't feel comfortable (and would lose sleep as well) trying to avoid talking about a particular subject, including my rich dating life outside of her.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 04:10 AM
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Word of advice: Don't get married. Ever.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/15 01:10 AM
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Cool. Yeah to be more specific, one of his girls was NOT upset at all, even when they ran into one of his plates on a night out and she threw a fit. (His whole thing kind of disproves AWALT because they did not all act alike, and it took some really skilled communication on his part to maintain friendships with the 3, most guys couldn't do what he did). Yeah I try to keep everyone off of my Facebook list but that's not always easy either, recently got tagged in some photos and not much I could d…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 11:23 PM
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Excellent. Can you also give a personal example? Agreed about having 2 plates in the same area. Also my friend that I mentioned above didn't lie about dating others, but each of his plates was PISSED when they found out he ACTUALLY was seeing others on a regular basis. For women, it seems to be okay in theory that you are seeing other women, but when they actually SEE one of the others it makes them REAL, and suddenly....it's not so kosher!
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 10:23 PM
2

Where is the link to /asktrp? I don't see it listed anywhere, otherwise I would have used it.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 10:19 PM
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I guarantee she has suitors. She's not banging them currently. Could she at any time? Of course. Women spinning plates = orbiters. Not the same as men spinning plates.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:46 PM
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Thanks. Ok so can you give an example? Like one of your main plates says to you "how many girls are you dating?" What's your response?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:43 PM
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Example is the current girl I'm dating. She works 3 nights a week & during the day. We hang out 3 nights a week. She's ALWAYS available, if I want to do something, she's available 100% of the time. Yes she is good looking and I'm sure has orbiters. I REALLY don't think she's seeing other guys or another guy, however. And she was long distance with a guy for a year and a half and told me she was actually upset because she never dating anyone else during that time. Yes this all could be a bunch of…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:29 PM
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Yes. Guy "waiting in the wing" is not a plate. I'm fully aware of all the orbiters most single women have, even the ugly ones usually have one or two. Women don't "spin plates", they just naturally have a lot of options because of the way guys are and will do anything to get laid.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:27 PM
1

Nobody actually read my post. In my post I asked another question: Do you tell your plates about other plates? Perhaps I need to start a new discussion about this.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:25 PM
1

Interesting. Did her husband know? And, whether he did or didn't, I still ask: why get married?
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:24 PM
1

Good point and exactly what I was asking about. Obviously women have access to far more interested men then they can date but how they spin them is the question, and you answered it here.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 09:22 PM
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True they could be really good liars but these aren't girls I went on a couple dates with, these are 3x/week girls that I got to know really well. I'm not saying women don't spin plates, that was my question, because I run across many that do not.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 05:08 PM
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In the cases I'm speaking of, yes, I actually was the only guy at that time.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 04:18 PM
2

Not sure where you live but 34 year olds are still in huge demand where I am, no shortage of dudes wanting to bang them. 37 or 38 may be the starting point of when it starts to get more difficult for them to find men.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/15 05:18 AM
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That's what I was saying. Not a big difference.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 11:28 PM
1

Both parties follow the same general economic theory (Keynsianism) and therefore, both are to blame. The country would be just fine WITHOUT politicians.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 09:21 PM
2

Well yes but R's and D's both deserve blame, the both got us into it and both sunk us even further. Stop thinking one party is going to be better than the other, they both exist to extract money from us.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 09:19 PM
1

Yeah but then we'd have some other bozo like McCain or Romney, not exactly a big difference.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 09:15 PM
2

Obama is against violence against SOME women, he routinely drone bombs the middle east and countless innocent women die as a result. Hypocrite to the max.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 09:14 PM
2

"Nice guy vs asshole" is a false dichotomy. There's a sliding scale. Most women want excitement in their relationships. But they don't WANT a guy that's an asshole. Given the choice, they will PUT UP WITH asshole behavior over nice guy behavior to get excitement, but the idea that "women want assholes" is totally misleading. And then there's healthy vs. unhealthy women. Healthy women won't put up with nearly as much BS as mentally unhealthy ones. They still want the excitement but will demand mo…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 10:04 PM
2

Putting yourself down only makes things worse. Just get out there and do 1 thing at a time to improve.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 12:24 AM
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I have empathy for you. Don't be too hard on yourself. You're young. You learn. This girl overreacted, even though, as you know, you should have just ignored your impulse to ask her if she's dating others. I personally would have accepted her offer to move the day, however, if she tried to flake, I would just Next her. I wouldn't stick with the not shitting where you eat rule. Yes things can get awkward but most people switch jobs quite often these days, especially in early 20's. I think you're …
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 12:22 AM
1

I do, it's just not my thing every time.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 03:03 AM
1

I understand that dancing can get girls, no question about that, but that's not my issue. I can get girls without being a dancer, and did get a really attractive one that I've been seeing for 3 months. So I don't need to learn to dance to get girls, but I also don't like it enough to learn, and not motivated to do it "for her". See what I'm saying?
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 11:49 PM
1

Yes, but I'm not trying to bring her home, we've been seeing one another for 3 months. I understand that dancing is good in meeting and hooking up with women, but it's different if you already have one and you actually don't enjoy dancing. Fun for you, boring for me. :)
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 11:09 PM
2

Sounds like you're a woman. Would you say that most women want to dance? I don't actually hang out in clubs much so I wouldn't be that boring wallflower guy. "Almost like having sex". That's so strange to me. I'd much prefer to have sex. The real thing vs a tease. Not saying there's a right or wrong here. And yes, I totally agree dancing can bring people closer. But what if you're already with them in a relationship? I get more out of communicating or actually having sex than moving around on th…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 07:36 PM
1

Thanks. We've discussed this. I'm not sure my interest is really there. I get bored with dancing.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 07:33 PM
1

Again, we've slept together many times over the past 3 months. We did so before we ever danced. I'm not "trying" to get her in bed, it's already done, and dancing was not required to do that the first, second, third, fourth, etc. time.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 07:32 PM
1

This would make sense if we hadn't had sex yet. We have, many times, and before we ever danced together. So this idea that she needs to see my hips move on the dance floor to see how I would be in bed doesn't make sense. Yes of course that was a shit test, I wasn't "dumbfounded" but then again...I call that stuff out, I don't play, so I made her explain her claim of what I was doing. Anyway, like I said, we've already had sex dozens of times, testing time is over in that realm, I feel no need to…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 07:30 PM
1

Yes to the first one, that's what I said. No to the second one, "playing" anything is a turnoff to me. I like playful but not game-playing nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 06:31 PM
1

Wow, you date some psychos man!
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 10:32 PM
0

Am I weird? As a man I like to be teased by women, and it has a similar effect to what the OP describes happening to women.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 10:24 PM
2

Ever lived in San Jose, CA? They don't call it "Man Jose" for nothing. Something like an 8 to 1 ratio of single males to females. Even Toronto is I doubt this bad!
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 03:43 PM
1

A million reasons to not get married. This is yet another.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 03:39 PM
3

He's not really the "winner". He's got a pill popping disaster on his hands now. Not winning.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/15 04:52 AM
1

No I didn't say that. Please re-read my original post. Well at least we agree.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 09:19 PM
1

I didn't say I would NEXT her for looking.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 09:16 PM
2

I don't believe in shit tests. I Next every time that shit happens. Works for me. My girl right now has never done anything close to a shit test and therefore, I reward her.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/15 06:32 PM
3

And you think there are "perfectly" honest dudes? The point is to not just let lies slide and give women a pass for lying "because they're women".
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 08:44 PM
-2

Not all women are dishonest. Many are, yes. Don't put up with it.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 06:43 PM
8

I simply don't stand for dishonesty. As soon as that starts occurring, I'm either out or got one foot out the door and I will let her know. If my girl lies to me, to me the relationship is either over or nearly over. I can give her 1 break if it is a minor thing, but I really think there's no place for dishonesty from men or women in relationships. If a woman is dishonest with you, it's time to NEXT as lying is going to be how she deals with any sort of conflict in the future.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 06:41 PM
1

Aaaand if he stayed in the military and they stayed "together" they would have split up in a heartbeat as we all know long distance/military relationships don't typically work. So think breaking up was her best option, whatever reason she may give.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 10:54 PM
-19

Sounds like she has mental problems if she is trying to "intimidate men". Who would want to date someone like that?
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 10:56 PM
1

A few things. One, this works both ways. Ever done online dating? Ever see the women who email you? Yes, not a pretty situation. It feels a bit...insulting. Two, this isn't "all women". This is a certain level of attractive women. 5's and 6's are likely happy if ANYONE compliments them. So this article doesn't apply. Three, beta/alpha is a sliding scale. Just by approaching a woman, you are sliding towards alpha. Saying these guys are "beta" is missing the point.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/15 05:49 PM
1

I say who cares. First, Salt-n-Pepa were never all that. Second, Will Smith did just fine in his life, beta or not. Would you rather be one of those alpha thugs who banged a few bitches in the 90's and is now hit his own wall by now or multi-millionaire Will Smith who, if he were to divorce, could have them lining up for him?
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 06:29 PM
1

I've had many STRs, ONSs, and LTRs and size of my junk has not come up even once.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 03:12 AM
1

Yep, stuff that is an accident of birth matters. Sad, but true.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 08:37 PM
2

Simple. Don't get married. No such thing as "forever" and entering into a contract with the government not only won't guarantee anything, but will actually hurt your relationship, kids or no kids.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:01 PM
3

Yoga never seemed to work for me despite the great ratio. Most girls never seem to want to be chatted up before or after class.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 12:50 AM
1

Agreed. Never marry. I posted about how it's the most blue pill thing you can do.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 12:48 AM
2

Bravo. This is what it's all about. Not "look at me I was alpha as fuck!" Your date is a great example of why guys are trying WAY too hard to be "alpha", when in reality this doesn't exist. I've had similar dates. In fact most dates are like this- a lot of "dammit that's not how I wanted this to go!" mixed with "wow that went better than expected!" And the fact that it's a sliding scale. Like you said, nobody is "Alpha" or "Beta", we all are both. Nice job!
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 08:07 AM
-5

This is a most excellent post. Agree 100% about this contradiction. It's not just society that created these bad qualities in women, but bad parenting giving girls low self esteem. And I do not believe in AWALT.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 07:59 AM
0

Yeah. I think it's also up to us to discriminate. The selfie-obsessed, club hottie, non-responsive chicks should be ignored and moved on from. I think if you find a higher quality girl, she will respond to your texts OR voicemails even if she's getting 100 messages a day from guys telling her how hot she is. I pretty much think it's not the medium, but the actual woman involved, and of course what you are saying to her.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 06:05 PM
5

Drop it, not worth the drama, NEXT instead of trying to inflate your ego with her texting.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 05:58 PM
0

This proves my point- 90% of guys don't get it at all, and the standard message is NOT remotely clever, and more like "Hi" or "You're hot!". Even by using the stuff that's easily available on a Google search, you're ahead of 90% of the guys out there using text/Tinder to try to get girls. This counters the OP's point about competition. Just learning the basics of how to text is going to set you apart and get you dates. Isn't it amazing how much attention you got when you put up the pics? Even if…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:58 PM
3

Reason #666 of why NEVER to get married.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:51 AM
2

I like this post. Some good nuggets mixed in there. A few comments: Yes, every girl that is semi-good looking has texts/Tinders/OKC messages from guys constantly. But, you're overrating how creative these guys are. The fact is, 90% of the guys these girls are getting messages from don't even bother to google what you did. The messages she is more likely getting are like this: -Hi -You're hot! -Would you like to have casual sex? -How's your day/week/weekend? -Beautiful eyes etc. The examples you …
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:49 AM
-8

Where's the logic in this? Maybe she did anal with someone, hated it, and refuses to do it with you. Drop her for that? Come on, that's not a mature way of handing it.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 09:18 PM
1

Weird, I've met lots of girls in person that claim they won't return any messages from guys with shirtless pics. Maybe it's just the ones I'm meeting, or maybe they are lying.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 09:40 PM
1

Bonds, crazy chemical rushes, people caring for each other for 60 years, etc. are all true and exist. State sponsored marriages where you sign your life away and let it be run by government & your wife in the case of divorce, are a made up construct. So is "together forever". Again, it's marriage, not voluntary LTRs that is blue pill. Marriage is the problem.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 12:53 AM
-4

How is marriage natural? It didn't always exist, and now its a construct of the state. It's certainly normal, but not natural. Can you give any rebuttals to what I wrote?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 10:10 PM
2

Bingo caveboy! Marriage does not equal relationship, nor success, it's simply a contract signed with the government. ˆˆ
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 09:54 PM
1

Great, except for with some girls these are NOT shit tests, they actually want to know things like how many you are dating. I dated a Latina this year and the first night she asked me how many I'm dating, and we only had about 4 dates but the questions kept coming and she was relentless every time until I gave an actual answer, it can be pretty maddening and beyond just shit testing sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 09:10 PM
1

Possibly that and the fact that many equate LTR with marriage, which is not at all the case. I was married once, living in the blue pill world. Again, a married man is not "blue pill" per se but marriage itself is most definitely a blue pill institution.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:47 PM
1

Again, that's great, I'm all for LTRs. Marriage itself is the problem because of all the things I laid out in the OP. Which one or ones do you disagree with?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:41 PM
-3

Agreed, if you read my post, you'll see that I'm referring to marriage itself, not LTRs as blue pill.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:38 PM
4

This sums up my view of marriage, NOT LTRs, being blue pill: You want to spend the rest of your life with someone? Go for it! See if the shoe fits forever. Don't sign a legally binding contract based on emotion, especially one as unpredictable as love. And why would anyone want to involve lawyers and government in their relationship? Was it worth less up until then..? Be in love and if it ends, walk away!
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 06:49 AM
5

Disagree. Marriage doesn't prevent bad relationships, or bad parenting. Marriage is a state institution that doesn't not exist for our benefit. That is why it's blue pill- it's an outdated idea that we need to ask the state for permission to be in a relationship with another person. It's failed miserably in forcing people to be together, forcing people to be faithful to one another, and forcing people to be together "for the kids". It's a piece of paper. You have at least an equal chance of succ…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 06:39 AM
0

Not against LTRs, again, I'm saying, marriage itself is not red pill or "alpha as fuck". Can you debate any of my points against marriage? Being the "pathetic guy in the club at age 35 hitting on the 20 year olds as they laugh at you" is a straw man argument to what I am saying.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 06:33 AM
1

I didn't invent the "red pill" idea. But if we're going to have a forum named after it, we might as well define it and decide what fits in the category. Red pill to me is uncomfortable truths- in male/female relationships, as well as in institutions like government and marriage. I'm glad you know many happily married people, but that unfortunately is not the norm, nor does it make marriage red pill.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 06:30 AM
0

I get it. LTRs work, and are great in many ways. Marriage, not so much. I'm not arguing the case for LTRs being bad, I'm simply stating that marriage itself is blue pill- an old outdated idea that's bad for relationships, and really bad for men.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:46 AM
1

Good points. I don't say married men are all blue pill, but marriage itself is blue pill. You can swallow the red pill and accept the uncomfortable truth that marriage is a scam and a blue pill idea, and still be red pill yourself, if that makes sense. As far as divorce, I'm not sure what you said is true. Men also leave women all the time. People break up, it's natural to break up. Most relationships aren't meant to last forever, but for the ones that are, you wouldn't need a contract to enforc…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:40 AM
2

Thanks! What makes marriage red pill? Isn't the red pill supposed to be uncomfortable truths? I thought that's what I pointed out in my OP.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:13 AM
-2

I guess because this is the Red Pill subreddit, and I don't see anything "Red Pill" about marriage.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:10 AM
-2

All of that may well be true. But substitute "LTR" for marriage. Why do we need marriage? Let's strip away all the stuff we were taught growing up. That we need the state to get married, for one. The problem is multi-tiered. You can have kids with a woman and have a great LTR with her without marriage. You can get married to the woman you have kids with, and she leaves you. I'm saying, marriage, or a contract, is not the answer. Not having marriage will make you way more picky about who you have…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 04:03 AM
2

Ok. Do you have any specific arguments to what I presented above? Why do you need a contract with the government to "stay loyal"? And...when has marriage ever prevented anyone from not being so loyal?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:53 AM
-1

And as Louis CK said, "The best thing about marriage is...divorce!"
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:41 AM
1

Ok but what is red pill about marriage itself? What is the benefit? What counter points are there to what I presented?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:38 AM
0

I totally get that. You married to protect yourself and your woman. If not for the state, you wouldn't have had to do that.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:37 AM
-1

Ok so how is marriage red pill? You can get laid with 0 effort without a contract with the government. And you can see your kids everyday without a marriage license. You're not giving me arguments, just ad hominem attacks. If you want to be married, that's fine, but I see no reason to consider it red pill.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:36 AM
2

Interesting that all of the negative comments so far aren't an argument to the points I've made, but more of an ad hominem attack. "Marriage isn't blue pill, you are!" "You just can't handle marriage". "This discussion is getting old". These aren't arguments. I'm completely open to a debate about this, just would like to see some arguments pro-marriage posted here.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:27 AM
-3

Ok that's fine and doesn't contradict anything I said right? People come on this forum and say this or that is red pill, and yet, they are married. I just want to point out that if you're going to throw stones from glass houses, you better have some understanding. Or something like that.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:17 AM
2

Whining about anything isn't alpha right? People come on here and whine about lots of things. I'm not angry about marriage, or anything, just pointing out a truth if we are going to be discussing red pill vs. blue pill. What is the divorce rate then?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:14 AM
1

Yes why do you need the state to be together with someone? Makes no sense, rationally speaking.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:12 AM
-8

It's not scary it's just blue pill. Why did you get married?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:10 AM
2

That's fine but...why get married then? What does marriage mean? You could just as easily have multiple GFs no?
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 03:10 AM
3

Right! Even "chosen marriage" is choosing to be forced to be together, not voluntary.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 01:13 AM
1

Why would you keep someone around as crazy as that? Simply Next her ASAP and avoid the unnecessary drama, unless...scarcity.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 12:32 AM
3

Tinder is a no brainer since it takes almost 0 time. But, here are my observations about my experiences and this post: The women I have interacted with on there on average have been more cautious/resistant than IRL or on other dating sites. Every woman I've ever discussed pictures with says that they are completely turned off by shirtless pics. You don't lose weight by going to the gym. Get your diet under control first (i.e. cut the sugar and fast food), then worry about building muscle. Be fun…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 06:12 PM
1

There is no "right woman". Marriage is a fraud and a scam and has no place in a red pill world. You can't know what you or your parter will be like 5 or 10 years from now, let alone forever. Then there's the problem of signing a contract with the government to ask permission. Then there's the problem of men getting screwed completely by law if a divorce occurs, which as you know is likely. I say get out now or stay with her and don't get married to keep things going strong.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 08:57 PM
1

True. I just don't think his advice to young guys dating is solid. He steers them to be always looking for a wife, thinks ONS's are abhorrent, and downplays the importance of looks (they will fade anyway, might as well go for 6's, etc.)
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 03:36 PM
2

True he is red pill when it comes to politics & religion (both built on mythologies), but tough to listen to about relationships (believes strongly in marriage, gives some very questionable advice to the young guys calling in to the show). But worth listening to from time to time anyway.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 07:10 AM
0

How is committing for life over a present feeling a great thing? I'm sure you're happy with your wife but the whole concept of marriage crumbles when you look at what it is. Most people change a lot over their lives and there's no way to predict how you or your parter are going to be in 5, 10, or 15 years. If you change the exact same way at the exact same rate, good for you, you are one of the small minority. Then you throw in the whole thing of signing a contract with the government to say you…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 12:02 AM
4

One problem I have with the term as used by many is the idea that you're either "Alpha" or "Beta". Not true. Just like introvert/extrovert, it's a sliding scale. Most are not 100% either way, some are in the middle and there are many along the spectrum. Labeling people one or the other doesn't help anyone, as if there is some wall you have to crossover to achieve Alphahood.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 11:58 PM
3

I don't understand why anyone would bet on present happiness with someone equaling future happiness- FOREVER! Nor do I understand what's in it for the guy financially to get married, nor do I understand why you need to sign a contract with the government to say you're with this person. Marriage makes zero sense to me on a RP or logical level.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 12:38 AM
1

Great but...why would you want drama like this? If that happened to me and a girl I would just Next her.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 12:29 AM
1

I don't get why this is so cool. Women don't behave like this around me. If she's going to get into all that craziness, why do you even bother? For the sex? Seems like there would be higher quality women to have sex with, this one sounds off the charts crazy to me! Instead of "maintaining frame", I would simply Next her, unless...scarcity mentality.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/14 07:10 PM
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