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"The culture wars are just a distraction from the real class war against the abstract Elites, but I would NEVER, ever, ever say that when I was winning the culture wars and 'yes all men', 'abolish the White race' and 'children know when they're transgender' were the slogans defining the agenda in the media, education, the labour market, policing and justice, backed by MY ELITES in the permanent bureaucracy and billionaire NGOs such as the Open Societies Foundation"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:14 AM
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Counterpoint: this attitude has become more prevalent once again in Western countries as since housing prices have skyrocketed and a gerontocratic social contract diverts a lot of money to older people, multigenerational households have once again become more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:42 PM
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Although I acknowledge the social messaging that lead you to this anxiety, I assure you that it strongly exceeds the actual social risks of trangressing that "duty to retreat" in face of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:35 PM
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For scale, the average wage is 11€/h, the minimum wage is 5,5€\h. 'Budget' older/Blacker prostitutes go for 15/30/60mins for 20/30/60€, while younger/Whiter ones go for 40/60/100€, the average one 30/50/80€. A few luxury ones charge more, but it takes an intersection of desirable traits. I'm pretty sure than in the USA it's much more compared to wages
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:30 PM
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This was a message pushed by older female relatives, the media, even the school system, circa 199x-2013. "Just be yourself and they'll come", "girls are pretty dumb right now but once they grow up they'll see the value in a guy like you", etc. There's a sea of sex comedies/coming of age dramas that fueled this narrative. Sex Ed materials from that time also would attest to it, although they're likely harder to find nowadays. The early manosphere/PUA movement was a whiplash against that false mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:49 PM
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That's the elephant in the room that bluepillers somehow refuse to acknowledge even though it's not intrinsically "mysoginistic" or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:30 PM
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Much less than before, though. Her mentality would seen exceptional a couple decades ago, but now it seems the norm. The sex recession is happening for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:25 PM
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"Gen Zers imagine a golden age of "singles bars" No, I don't imagine it, I still caught the tail end of it circa 2016 since the MeToo trend came late here, and know from older friends how much more packed and disinhibited the nightlife was 20-30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:21 PM
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The high price is the product of its illegality and nothing more. Living in a place where it's legal, the absurd prices seen in the USA (even adjusted to the average income) are shocking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:16 PM
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Indeed, the smallest minority is the individual. What else is there to add?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:20 AM
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The gynocratic society, beyond its democidal nature, has consistently proven itself to result in both men and women being less happy/satisfied. If you're smart enough, you should be able to analyse the consequences of having more women in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:26 PM
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Some decisions make you very useful to others, but get a raw deal yourself. Feminism was built around rejecting such roles, and now you want to scream at guys for asking themselves and others the same question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:22 PM
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I digress: the creeping expectation of perfection from both parents and children has been an issue for half a century now. This whole "how dare you protest against flawed, false and damaging narratives and their consequences!" act is tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:18 PM
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Insane how they can say that 40-50% of a population is an overlookable minority. This is something that I see (the left) doing a lot to derail political conversations. Every group has some exceptions, but when it comes to numbers like these, we're talking about a systemic issue. And, when that issue arises very fast, it's the product of social/political changes, not genetic ones. It's not 20 years that makes the rates of autism skyrocket. Anecdotally, my father and my uncle (his twin brother) ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:11 PM
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I've never seen someone twisting themselves into a pretzel so much to be constantly chastising me. We're talking about dating, and the moment you lack a response you pivot to "life isn't just about dating". Yes? But this conversation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:03 PM
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This is insane, there no crime to which the burden of proof is as low as "sexual assault"(the new vague catch-all), to the point that we know that controversial public figures WILL be hit with them in order to destroy their reputation. Still, conviction rates are low because "the guy to whose place I was willingly going to to have sex years ago was actually coercing me" is a crappy case regardless. With almost all other crimes much stronger evidence is required before a day in court is even appo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:14 AM
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Eh, you may handle with the former as long as you don't put yourself in a vulnerable position and set boundaries. Granted, most cases I know have been hell both for the man and for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:59 AM
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Nobody is a pedophile because they aren't children, no matter how much that American insanity has been pushed abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:50 PM
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Regardless of being natural or not, "woman not having kids, not going through risk of deployment in war, taking 8 more years of retirement than man, voting for her female/elderly interests 8 years more than men" is an issue of freeloading and an unbalanced social contract wrt each sex's responsibilities and authority. The injustice of Ukrainian men being sent to die while women made up the majority of the voters (and will make up even more when the war ends) is blood-boiling. Hell, my body is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:08 AM
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It's not traumatizing unless you get hammered that you were abused/"taken advantage of" later on(Rind et al., 1998). Those born up to the 1980s in Europe, who were losing their virginity at 14-15 ON AVERAGE and sleeping around a lot more, were much happier than us, since they weren't brainwashed about how the sex they enjoyed at the time was actually evil. It doesn't follow that because your brain only petrifies later on, you should be kept from having sex/being sexually pursued in your formativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:09 PM
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Except the people (women/girls, in this case) we can interact with in this are not some ideal, but the product of a very specific, unnatural, and unbalanced social contract and norms. The amount of leverage and internalized animosity you can have in a pacified, securitized society with a welfare state/old age pensions, and a culture that demonizes male sexuality and gatekeeps girls from it 6-8 past puberty is uniquely high and unfavorable for males to deal with. That's not OP's point though, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:39 PM
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From the male perspective, even though women that age looked old(er), that didn't make them unattractive altogether. Even if we wouldn't consider them for anything serious, we still enjoyed the presence of older party animals. I know that female attraction is fussier than the male one, but still, that level of repulsion needs to be socially nurtured; as I've said, it was probably much weaker just a few decades ago. I think it's intimately linked to the West becoming much more sex negative, atomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:20 PM
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The effect of the father's age in the rate of miscarriages is negligible, and even birth defects are more commonly the product of chromosomal defects (downstream of maternal age) or issues with the mother's reproductive system, than of genetic neomutations in the fetus/newborn (to which the father's age is a major factor).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:37 PM
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While genetic mutations increase more with the father's age, the effects of those are most often discrete and usually just manifest later in life. Complications during pregnancy are overwhelmingly contingent on the mother's age, and the father's makes little difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:33 PM
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Fair enough, but don't pretend that this is instinctive as much as it's conditioned. That's the reason why they kept raising the age of consent, why they keep hammering you that older men hitting on you are "predators": because absent that conditioning, most of you wouldn't feel that strongly about a man being a bit older. How much more common such hookups and relationships were just 15-25y ago attests to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:27 PM
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I slipped down in life and am back with older female relatives. I swear to god, being alone would be a major relief compared to this. What my grandpa suffered at the hands of my grandmother in his latter years (and probably all his life, but he used to be more capable of handling it) was inhumane, and it's not the only couple I know like that. I fear incapacity, and it's better to die than to be at the mercy of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:28 PM
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Yeah, the first paragraph is the one I find to be common. The other way around, not so much, I've never met even one such case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:04 AM
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You say this sarcastically, but 2014s MeToo feminism defends exactly that. Articles were written in New York Times about how men should feel a chill down their spine when going to bed with the woman, due to the possibility of her accusing him of rape for not being "in the right state of mind to consent". Conversely men get attacked as misogynists for guarding themselves against the perils described in the second paragraph. If they don't get married they are just manipulators who are wasting wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:15 PM
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They are a yellow flag at most. It signals some immaturity, but that is still better than many worn-out, cynical, status-seeking and controlling archetypes that many women mature into. However Disney princess kitsch Would make me a bit uneasy, because that shows inability or unwillingness to compartmentalize this side of hers. The response to this question hinges on the type of man: high-powered, status-seeking men might not be as amenable to those things as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:03 PM
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Fair enough, I admit that mental illness runs in my family, but the usual response to that since no-fault divorce/"marital rape" laws seems to be for the man to suck it up and take the abuse. Curiously, among my fellow Gen Z this doesn't seem to be the case. While most are single, couples seem to be much more reasonable dealing with one another. Is it a selection effect from ubiquitous bachelorhood? Women just becoming unpleasant with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:52 PM
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The usual "touch grass, it's not real, you incel" retort is insulting, since in most couples I know (well) the women treat their husbands like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:55 AM
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I understand the reference, but have no idea about how it connects to the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:02 AM
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You're correct that older women generally have a larger support circle, but they don't handle being alone better. Widowers, though? They have a major confounding factor: grief. Women can indeed deal with the death of their husband much better than the other way around, but this comes down to how they tolerate more indignity and aren't as deeply loyal as men are. For a reason men are much more likely to end their lives when they fail, and it's biologically sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:03 PM
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Historically (as in until the 1970s-1990s) there was no concept of rape within marriage, the man could have it whenever he wanted or divorce with just cause, so the concern with dead bedrooms was moot. Also, until no-fault divorce, whoever abandoned any of their other duties within marriage could lose the house, the custody of children (unless a deal was made), rights to alimony, etc. People were not at risk of being stabbed in the back like today. Even then, being a single mother/old maid was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:56 PM
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I think this issue has bigger nuances, as some Red Pill currents are engaged in collective social goals, but you are directionally correct. It also explains why the Manosphere is called far-right by journalists, when much of it bemoans the skyrocketing inequality in the allocation of sex/relationships, of workers being screwed over by an unaccountable (and disproportionately female) bureaucracy, and in many cases the advantage of being White. Despite all that, the idea of men not valuing the hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:19 AM
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The degree of developmental stunting from malnutrition most people suffered until the Haber-Bosch process made nitrogen widely available was huge, their puberty was delayed for 3-4 years. In Anna Karenina a peasant girl only started developing her breasts at 16; a peasant boy, his beard, at 18. Controlled for other conditions, 17-25 are the healthiest ages to have children. Studies that shift it to 20+ are a statistical artifact of teen pregnancy the West correlating with lower class, poorer hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:58 AM
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I've commented on that before: Sparta was proto-feminist on several dimensions: high age of marriage, separation of boys from their father and collective rearing, political empowerment of women, large-scale infanticide for small imperfections. As a result, it fell to its less eugenicist rivals, because its "effective fertility", as in those reaching childbearing/military age, was much lower than theirs. Many brutalized young conscripts fled, or tried to; the economic and intellectual productivit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:47 AM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:12 AM
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There is some truth to them in some contexts (for ex, the law actually holds men accountable, men with erratic lives are unlikely to snap into dedicated fathers and women would be naive to expect that), but much redpill but esp. blackpill/incel use of those expressions is indeed BS. I can't answer without further context, for there was none in my OP. I have no idea where you pulled that off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:07 AM
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Were it not for some feminist twists to family law, raw dogging whores wouldn't carry any risk beyond STDs: that a man be held liable for a bastard kid is a very recent social technology. Women can abort them in most jurisdictions, or at least give them up for adoption in the rest of them. It's not my point, though: based on the information (or lack thereof) we have on the vast majority of women, we need to assume them to be "whores" as a rule of thumb. That she makes it hard for us in particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:55 PM
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So what? You are not entitled to blind trust. In a traditional society everyone else would keep an eye out for women and what they were doing; and getting away from said community's all-watching gaze, for example, by going to another town unaccompanied, would brand a woman with a Scarlet letter. Nowadays women have an effective right to a private life and we must protect ourselves against the possibilities that brings. It is completely legitimate for a woman to check if a prospective husband has…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:15 PM
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There's a difference between the state surveilling everyone from the top down, and two parts engaged in a contract between one another (in this case, raising a child) to verify if the other is being honest, in a way that doesn't expose their private life should they both not want to rock the boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:53 PM
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For you, a 2nd wave/radical(in sensu latu) feminist, to blame men for not letting their guard down towards the woman they're dating is hypocritical beyond measure, for your ideology is centered around not letting your guard down towards the men you're dating. Is there an inherent suspicion about infidelity by the women? Yes. It's just like the one you promote when telling young women to postpone getting married and having children and focus on their careers instead, so that they have "financial …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:49 PM
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Yes, that's how marriage was legally recognized until the 90s and the reason why men would get married. Why else would they sign a contract that holds them financially liable for another person?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:59 AM
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Your insinuation is yet another aggravating chiché by the conservative-feminist alliance: CFA calls pursuing sex with hot young sluts worthless, and men who desire it degenerates and lowlives. However, once these women hit the wall and reinvent their image as pious, "born-again virgins" who "don't do hookups anymore", and are looking for their BetaBuxxer, CFA demands men pretend they are valuable mates and shames them for not wanting to date/marry them. In response to your question: yes, I want …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:25 AM
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Correlation does not mean causation. Have you considered the obvious effect of healthy men getting (and staying) married more, as they are more attractive dating prospects? It's men of poorer health that can't get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:18 PM
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Everybody has their own history; however, if she believes that justice should have had "Jack" punished, regardless of evidence, it'd be a glowing red warning sign. People into "shooting first and asking questions later" are fundamentally dangerous to be around, as they easily turn against others out of paranoia. Or worse, it can indeed be a smoke curtain to have false accusations and excuses for punishment work. The scenario of the rape accusation being fake, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:07 AM
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I know, my point was that at the bottom of society women make more and have more material comfort than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:38 PM
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No, this is a perfectly rational assessment that there's much more variance in life outcomes for males than females. At worse a faildaughter can become a SAHM or even a sex worker, and gets much more lenience for joining social circles getting hired for public-facing positions; a failson can fall in an abyss of dispossession and social marginalization very hard to get out of. Conversely, extraordinary feats and lives are overwhelmingly had by males, as they're stronger, more resistant, less agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:33 PM
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Your perception of the not-so-distant past is correct. Do redpillers think that, though? My impression is that the ones that aren't religious idealists generally acknowledge that female nature stays the same, but actions and attitudes are conditioned by the social dynamics of the time and place. The video of the old judge finding out through a genetics test that "his" children aren't his that went viral beyond the bubble is an example of this acknowledgement. Another is the constant reminder of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:49 AM
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Eh, demolishing OLD would not bring back the old social institutions and technologies through which people coupled up. Demolishing what we have without building the new leaves no one better off. The issue solvable by state action is how the Match group bought all major dating sites and imposed Tinder-like mechanics on them, impeding on the free communication of yore, just to squeeze more money from the userbase. Just activate anti-monopoly mechanism, or create a public, 100% free dating site. DN…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:32 AM
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Yes, you demand that such role models be positive to females, at the detriment of the males self-interest. Meanwhile girls are taught be be ruthlessly selfish and distrustful. That's OP's point!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:23 AM
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This is NOT the Patriarchy. The male-oriented vulgar-era culture didn't shame, demonize or persecute our sexuality. MeToo/4th wave Feminism did. Ps: Yes, there's a pincer movement with female/gynocentric "Christian conservatives", like Mike Johnson. They're not The Patriarchy, and what they preach is an obvious distortion of Christian teachings. Never were men forced to work to finance single moms and kids who are not theirs, like he so proudly demanded when cutting Medicare access to men and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:11 AM
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Congratulations for being able to amorally acknowledge that, in a world where the default feminist response is "if we further kick males down and humiliate them, they'll learn to respect women" (see the UK's moral panic with "Adolescence") The fascinating thing is how there's so little violence nowadays, sexual and otherwise, considering how many men are sexless and dispossessed. The sedative effect of porn, social media and videogames is unfathomably strong. Governments restricting access to po…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:17 PM
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Unless there are major LEGISLATIVE changes (e.g. undo no-fault divorce, speech-chilling "sexual harassment" clauses, "affirmative consent"/sex as rape until proof of the contrary, considering alcohol as something that makes women unable of consent rather than a social lubricant, and above all the welfare state/social security that transfers a lot from men to women over their lifetime), yes, that's it. South Korea leads the way. Rock-bottom marriage and fertility rates, widespread prostitution, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:04 PM
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"He's not warm enough with me", "he's too immersed in his work", "doesn't care about our kids (didn't endorse helicopter/tiger parenting)", "he cheated (after being visibly treated like crap/ignored for years)". Granted, these may be valid points of contention, but many more men just grit through similar issues without separating their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:22 AM
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Seconded: as a son, one is probably the male most shielded from a woman's feminist resentment. Blood is thicker than water. It's other women that teach us the lessons. The reverse is also true, in most patriarchal societies fathers are usually still very protective of their daughters. The most jaded divorced dad will still brutalize anyone who dares to hurt his daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:20 PM
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Fine, we agree it's not about reflexive rebellion. The core issue being how older women are jaded/guarded against men is not made explicit in your post, tbh. I wasn't dismissing it intentionally. I actually find it very pertinent. The resentful, cynical, sexless outlook towards males of most older women (under proportionally one's mothers due to fertility differentials, as I've said) is a formative experience for most of us. I FEEL, not just intellectualise from internet discourse, like I'm gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:10 PM
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Framing a worldview as edgy reaction, or, more broadly, psychoanalysing its adherents, is usually a cheap way to dismiss it without confronting the ideas. Something to keep in mind that feminists have fewer kids than average, so they're underrepresented among boys' mothers. If anything, being under female authorities at school is a more generalized elucidative experience. But yes, being taught against advocating for their own interests as boys by female authorities whose loyalty lies with "the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:31 AM
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Good from you, but that THE definitive symbol of status is a college degree, beyond its mere economic rationale, or said rationale is made true by refusing to automate administrative/white collar work, is a beast of its own. However, I was referring mostly to the cultural attitudes towards males and masculinity imposed in schools and Unis, i.e., the demonization of typically male personality traits, thought patterns and desires, vs the supposedly virtuous female ones. The moral panic in the UK o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:04 AM
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It's absurdly expensive in the USA due to illegality of it AND it being the odd activity that gets immigrants deported, while males pour through the border. Where it's legal 30 min often goes for 6-7h of the minimum wage, 4h of the median; considerably even less in NL/DE where it's legal and regulated, immigrants can get visas explicitly to work as prostitutes. Going a handful of times a month is well within the budget of travelling contractors, truckers or specialized tradesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:51 PM
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Correct, but pervasive feminist education is pushing the status of men so low that many are dropping out of the game altogether. Those will not fight for scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:34 PM
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The attitude of "backwards Jesus frear hicks" you show so much contempt is, at a basic biological level, and economically in the long term, more generative than yours. It's their kids who will hold up the pyramid scheme of social scheme for you (and any disabled kid you'd be much more likely to have with older pregnancies).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:07 PM
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I agree, from the right Blank-slatist religious "conservatives" have a cargo-cult of parental presence. In reality it's basically genetics (see 70s twin studies), but it would have them face some unfortunate truths. In the idealized "good old times", fathers spend much less time engaging with their kids on average, so much so that it was a rounding error (30 mins/day). Even mothers spent much less time with their kids too: by 1961 kids engaged with their parents 1h/day on average in most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:04 PM
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That's what I meant. Because of it there's a shift in interests and preferred style of interpersonal communication. It makes autistic females have an easier time relating to males, and autistic males have a harder time relating to females.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:06 PM
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I fully agree, gays are overrepresented among several types of "odd" men, but the tail end of "effeminacy" is a notorious one that many stereotypes stemmed from it. Ceteris paribus, paranoia, hysteria, anxiety, depression are more common/stronger in females, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:12 AM
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Yes, autists show a "masculinization" of brain activity; and the faces of autists, although with their own peculiarities, lean towards a more masculine physiognomy than average. It's a unique "neurodivergence" in this regard, almost all others show a feminization of the brain and physiognomy. Gays are a prime example of that: you see them in female-dominated interests like fashion and home decor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:04 PM
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How does them being "natural" detract from them massively affecting interpersonal (esp. romantic/sexual) relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:14 AM
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Liberal or hard-right(whitenat, christnat, Nietzschean, hindunat) MRAs do often call out for the end of circumcision in face massive muslim/jewish backlash and threats, so it's not like they're cowardly about Afghans. Bacha Bazi is a niche issue, and one whose shock value is downstream of the very recent construct that sex in childhood is intrinsically very harmful (if they're not made to ruminate on it and told they're destroyed), worse than permanent bodily damage or actual psychological/physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:24 AM
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If they were always easily within your reach as a female since puberty, you have no standing to lecture those who yearned for them for years
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:25 PM
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In fact, a person who has reasonable demands is better than a little prince/princess who thinks (s)he is owed to world in exchange for their presence or effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:37 AM
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While I'm pretty sure the pattern holds, keep in mind women in this subreddit, by default, like to argue about social issues over text-based social media. That is, for this issue, as biased a sample as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:31 PM
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Democrats don't want Republicans to undertake beneficial reforms, as it would help them consolidate themselves in power. Also, the medical lobby is a force to be reckoned with, having engineered a scarcity of doctors and 420k$+ average salaries for those who make it. You simply can't have affordable, abundant healthcare like that. Democrats don't want to piss off one of the few interest groups that don't hate them and may still have power after Trump's institutional cleanup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:05 PM
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If those issues are given regional leeway, they have become peripheral to the RNC, while previously they were at the center of its agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:00 PM
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This is something quite obvious: the Republican party of today is an old right-wing party, more similar than the one it was up to the palace coup against Nixon; while the strange construction of neoconservatism (neoliberal economic policy, hawkish foreign policy for liberal-globalist ends, post-nationalism and anti-identitarianism, blank-slatism, fused with plenty of Christian conservative red meat), the "party of Reagan", is all but dead. The American right, like the European one, is finally se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:57 PM
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The Bush era GOP was hardline pro-life. Now, in some places in the Bible belt, they get their way, but in most places the abortion question is delegated to referenda, where a moderately pro-choice position usually wins even in lean republican states.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:45 PM
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4 clear examples of this in my close family, 3 of which I got to witness up close quite often. Men who are treated like shit, humiliated for their interests and activities, who cater to every whim of their wives every waking moment; who, clearly against their will, back their wives when the latter start unreasonable conflicts with other family members or third parties. It pains me so much how I couldn't be with my grandfather as much as I wanted in his later years because my narc grandmother rag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:28 PM
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I say this as someone with a moderately negative view of the impact of internet porn on society (not as an instigator of sexual violence, but as pacifying/atomizing agent): They're the most dangerous attack vector against freedom of expression and privacy on the internet. "Require digital ID to access porn sites" in fact means "any website that doesn't control visitors through digital ID must actively censor its content" and thus "any website that doesn't control visitors through digital ID must…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:28 PM
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Not my problem, then I don't have the time or energy for her shit that I would have if she were 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:26 PM
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Sure, that's why OP found it a cute 'gotcha'. I'm saying that most women, implicitly, impose the rule of "it isn't acceptable for him to have done stuff he won't do with me" by outright refusing to date such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:16 PM
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In a weird way, women already have that standard, as a man having been sodomized in the past is a red line for most of them. Among the few to whom it wouldn't be, many are perverts who would like to repeat it. Most women wouldn't date a bisexual man, or one who had homosexual experiences in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:05 PM
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Because those women are social freeloaders: they, over their average lifetime, get social security/medicare/public safety/defense from men without providing them with sex and kids. On the slut's case, cut the "sex" part, but the rest stands. It changes nothing if they're not included in the roster (only a minority of guys get to consistently be in several). On the single mother's case, it's the guys speaking have no 'baby mama'. You get the gist. So, seeing them suffering alone feels like comeup…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:47 PM
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"Plus, why would you ignore women who are neutral towards it and lay attention only to the ones who heavily disagree with it?" Because the heavily invested in it are the ones that policy makers end up tending to. The whole MeToo/consent feminism saga, that made sexual pursuits and dating awkward and a legal minefield (women need to give explicit enthusiastic consent, if you're even a bit intoxicated by your own volition it's rape, raise age of consent, making any sexual advance is harassment, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:36 PM
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IK it's not your question, but... most do. It's a constant of female dating discourse "whiny men must fix themselves before starting to date again" "don't try to build him up, he'll leave you" "it's his fault he's a insert buzzword, don't fall for it".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:42 AM
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Lol, this has been at the core of anti-feminist culture wars for a long time: Men are not misogynistic towards women in the workplace/sports/videogames, were just rough-edged, transgressive and sometimes competitive. What women perceive as misogyny is actually being treated like a peer. Demanding that male-dominated spaces comply with female sensitivities infringes on our liberties.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:58 PM
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Women into male-dominated hobbies and interests are immensely privileged in dating, having an even more lopsided market within that niche. The example you gave was probably one of a neurotic man, mindbroken by "anti sexual harassment" laws and hostile responses to advances in the past. 1 - "women with mental disorders" it's not half the problem that it is to men, as long as they're not pulling inwards and isolating themselves. Of course, since nowadays they are getting hammered that only bad men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:19 AM
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That study/headline was a prime example of bad science because it counted people who went radio silent on the investigators (very disproportionately men) as having left their spouse. It rendered it useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:27 PM
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You say this with indignation as if it weren't completely fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:33 AM
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If that graph is something to go by, then by 40 we're still half as attracted. I dare say that it isn't as steep as that, and that a reduced "supply" of young prostitutes due to current social dynamics (e.g. more parental assistance in early adulthood) further pushes up their price. Prostitution is a domain of single moms, and women who've given up on getting married and starting a family; which means often past their mid-30s. They seem to outnumber the young ones nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:07 AM
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20 years is optimal biological age for a woman to have children in regards to ease of birth/fertility (controlled for external factors). For the health of the kids, it's even youngerIf female higher education impedes onto that, it's an irredeemable social ill. 1 - The problem here is the normalisation of helicopter parenting. Parents should be able to go partying and leave their kids with family members/neighbours/babysitters, or frankly by themselves as soon as the oldest 9-10y.o., like just a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:00 AM
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Back then being denied sex was a valid reason for divorce at the spouse's fault, if it didn't go as far as the right to force oneself onto one's spouse. This being said, the degree financial liability for their wives, specially in the USA, was indeed brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:47 AM
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The Sexual Revolution has been more than cancelled, you just didn't notice. Laws against sexual advances (AKA "sexual harassment"), age of consent increases, sex while intoxicated being considered abuse by default rather than a lifestyle choice, at a cultural level sex being considered by default a man "taking advantage" of the women, crackdowns on prostitution, porn and erotica being censored in the name of stopping bad examples to protect against abuse. The actual zenith of the sexual revoluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:43 AM
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Those are not considered abortions at all, and legal everywhere. If in Texas a liberal doctor let a woman die so that his side could score political points, it's not on me. I can't get over how most abortionist agitprop is just outright lies, and the rest deception. None openly argue for the policy they defend: elective abortions up to 6 months/birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:18 PM
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I think what's behind this rhetoric is a grounded acknowledgement that the problem in developed (and even some mid-development) counties that (good) women refuse to get pregnant and bear children. Raising/educating them? There's a ton of them fighting to do so, trying to push away the parents in the process. Just look at all the schoolteachers and social assistants who think they're entitled to push their idiosyncrasies! Also, there are far more willing adopters than babies for adoption. In fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:21 AM
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Fair point, the unseen degree of isolation people have from those they interact with in their daily lives, and the retreat to old or highly specialized circles through digital communications, may override this effect. I think that wanton smartphone use in public is starting to carry some stigma, being seen like smoking. We'll see what the future brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:47 PM
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If the majority of the men they interact with are older, then the chances that they get attracted to one are bigger. And vice-versa, BTW. I think that older female age-gap relationships are becoming more common, even if RP points are more widespread and young men more cynical than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:18 PM
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Here come the semantics games. From an outsider's perspective, neither should be treated as a liar. For the time being it's in the limbo of reasonable doubt, and thus no punishment should be dispense to either side, and both parts separated. This is the situation that feminists count as rapes when they say "only 2% of accusations are false": only 2% are proven false in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:10 AM
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Sure, but the guy actually dumps her afterwards, they're not just playing it cool, they actually are frosty about her, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:22 PM
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Sure, this is what the Redpill does. The end result of that is even many western governments are panicking and struggling to censor it. Young men are reacting by becoming cynical, more selfish, and turning against every stage of feminism, breaking taboos that span almost all the way to right for a few generations now, such as the female vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:18 PM
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I didn't even call it out, but it is obviously false. From a very selfish POV, a long-term relationship, as long as it imposes few constraints or demands on a man's life, beats "playing" a series of women to the large majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:06 PM
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Sexual novelty feels good to us by itself, sure. That being said, why would players push back women they already have a rapport with, and thus who'd likely be easier to bed again, and instead undergo dry spells looking for new ones, if not to avoid developing feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:11 PM
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In a "pump and dump" a guy is guarded with his emotions from the get-go. It's not a guy being in love with a girl and suddenly deciding he doesn't like her after they bang, which is absurd. Well maybe with a colossal Madonna-whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:04 PM
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In this case it's not different guys. Many who don't fall in love easily end up tolerating frankly abusive relationships/marriages. I know a few in my family: married late, in age and/or length of dating, but ended up as obedient dogs in the hands of wives who, frankly, had/have lower SMV than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:59 PM
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Like it or not, yes. Romantism has been a celebration of the irrational and tragic from the beginning. It stood against Classicism, which centered reason and the ability of Man to adapt and overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:49 PM
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As cynical as I am about love, the first line is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:47 PM
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They weren't planning on having a serious relationship to begin with in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:46 PM
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Many aren't bad men at all, and some do really care about their FWB, but the amount of contact they get with women breaks the halo effect of women and makes them cynical about their nature regardless. After a while it becomes patently obvious looks are the reason they can easily get chicks and their friends don't. Dating apps made it all the more visible and quantifiable. The bluepilled idea that female attention is a proxy for a man's moral value seems absurd. I'm glad for you. If sex is what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:44 PM
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I know them, and MOST of them are abusive b**ches who use their husbands/bfs like dogs, siccing them on their friends and family to get what they want and have them run to exhaustion in an attempt to please them. I know only a few women who respect their nice husband/BF back, and don't humiliate, isolate or disregard their dreams and desires. Most decent women I know prefer men who don't center them, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:44 AM
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The caliber is "young, eager, with few limits and/or everyday demands". So, if in reach, the best type of chick. "You'll never find peace with them" is also not the threat you think it is to a man who's been sexless, disregarded for most of his life and/or who never knew inner peace anyways. The alternative is being women who are with you for your respectability(money/status to polite society) and service to her in the relationship, isn't really one that augurs more peace either. It's an heavy c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:37 AM
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Do you listen to yourself? "The bad boys got to bone me and my friends without any effort on their part when we were younger, hotter and more eager; but now that we are older, more aged and less passionate, we settled for nice guys who need to put on the work to get us what we want."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:16 AM
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"Chads" I know absolutely have a dismissive and contemptuous view of women, even if they enjoy their presence, and do milk them for everything they're worth just because they can, out of sheer boredom. Conversely, I know many once kinky sluts who whitewashed their image. What you said in a mocking manner is often true, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:47 AM
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The "touch grass lol" retort was almost bad in faith back then, as unaccountable online confessions truer to will than in person starements, but at least most people didn't live online 15 years ago. Now that most do live, speak, and send likes online? It's ridiculous. Did e.g. the Trump phenomenon, BLM and Palestine rallies, or generally how politicians chase after online trends show you that the online is, indeed, real, and can override societal scripts if not censored/manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:22 AM
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Hence the problem with the hysterical American AoC. Any normal country acknowledged teens can consent much earlier, and depriving them from sex or at least seduction is psychosexual abuse, until you exported your moral panic. Now everyone is more miserable, anxious, sexless and single throughout their lives. Feminist victory 🎉! You saying something so absurd such as "a woman is a predator for trying to sleep with a man under 20y" is proof to me we shouldn't have yielded to any increase from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:06 AM
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They absolutely aren't, given that men there don't have to compete with women and "initiatives for equality" in the workplace; and once they've married they have de facto (in not de jure) authority over their wives, with regular sex, childcare and cooking thus being a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:33 AM
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As much as a third of kids before the industrial/hygiene revolution weren't raised by both parents all the way to adulthood. The mortality rate of women in childbirth and men in wars was astounding. Many babies were abandoned at church shortly after childbirth. Unless the family had enough land(or their lords), or a family trade, excess boys and girls around 10 were sent to work as apprentices and maids, respectively, further away. Orphaned girls from 12y onwards with no family honor left to pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:05 PM
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This transcends me: you let yourself get fat because you lost hope in getting women? Whether putting in effort in dating (or just getting laid) or not, being fit (as in jacked) massively improves one's life, even if living as an antisocial scoundrel. Actually, specially as an antisocial scoundrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:33 AM
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Oh, they are sexual competition, even if unwillingly on the female part. Every week we know of rapes by ride-sharing drivers or gang-rapes on parks. It certainly fucks up many a young woman's "ability to pair bond", if we're to frame it in an ammoral redpill frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:34 AM
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Even more of a red flag. Religious devotion *was a legitimate reason for women not to have sex, and it would be lifted after marriage. If it's not this set of values, chances are they're asexual or think all men they met were beneath them. It's a glaring red flag. *I say "was" because nowadays it has lost its relevance and churches are "ex-hoe whitewashing machines", so it's often just a facade for the later reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:04 PM
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The 2nd paragraph is inaccurate, another example of women projecting their preferences in men to the other sex. Men seek status to get women, not the other way around. If it didn't cost them access to women, they wouldn't care much. Very typical male fantasies involve having a woman (or women) with them in low-status lifestyles: the remote homestead, their sleepy hometown or even hers, wild nightlife/party scenes, even militant insurgency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:08 PM
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Said co-worker/neighbor I didn't know back in the day is only single because she acted like nobody was good enough for her to commit to back when she was in her prime. Whether this took the shape of a hoe phase or just being terminally underfucked, doesn't change much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:51 AM
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Nurse (and even doctor) shortage would bite and be hard to solve in the short to medium term, bleeding years of life expectancy. Society could go on if we were not squeamish about death panels for e.g. those in assisted living, though; there would be no collapse. Standards of living could even increase as a result, morbid as saying it out loud is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:33 PM
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Because most of them don't want to. If they wanted they absolutely could, and maybe even get paid for with with some.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:44 PM
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Your insinuation is yet another aggravating chiché by the conservative-feminist alliance: CFA calls sex with hot young sluts worthless, and men who desire pursue it degenerates and lowlives. However, once these women hit the wall and reinvent their image as pious, "born-again virgins" who "don't do hookups anymore", and are looking for their BetaBuxxer, they demand we pretend they are valuable mates and shame men for not wanting to marry them. In response: yes, I do, so long as I catch them earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:41 PM
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True, but it's not the point. OP said that being younger is such a SMV bonus that it can put women in the top league among slightly older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:53 PM
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Promiscuous women are indeed usually more masculine in demeanor than average (which is why facial features that denote higher testosterone in women are associated with a "whore face"), and tend to have high standards when it comes to athleticism/courage and (variable) finances, but they tend to care less about status/broader social approval and not be ashamed of non-conformist, antisocial men, so long as they have power. They are much more likely to be with low-status high-income men, or even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:59 PM
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There is a strong and well-proven effect of porn availability reducing sexual assault rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:49 PM
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But Johns aren't persecuted, reviled, or even looked down upon. The prostitute is acknowledged as a dishonoured woman not fit for marriage, and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:17 AM
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Not OP, but it's the case in finance outside of the office. It's also not a secret at all in transports, agriculture, mining, construction, or generally any industry that has men away from home with mostly other men for significant periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:14 AM
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So it's feminist neoprudery/ shaming of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:33 PM
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Maybe not every day(life gets in the way sometimes), but close. Anecdotes confirm that women who were lead by lust/charm to their husband stay much more sexually engaged throughout the years than those who just got with him because they cynically acknowledged they needed someone "stable" to "settle down" soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:58 AM
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I think this isn't the case anymore, for the propaganda spread through social media now reaches women in most of the world, and in some developing regions it's penetrating the collective unconscious of the women as strongly as, or even more than, most of the developed West. I may be misreading the vibes, but I count among these: North Africa, Korea, Argentina/Chile, South Africa, southern/Christian Nigeria (honourable mention for African-American women). Material circumstances and stronger pushb…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:13 PM
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Progressive MRAs just endorse the feminist ethos and then want it equally applied to both sexes. An useful tool to expose double standards, but ultimately still creates a society catered to women and where men need to suppress their way of being. It's ultimately unsustainable without men being willing to defend it. Men and women are different, the environments where they can vindicate too, and their rights and duties must thus differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:17 PM
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On point. The increased stigma placed on alcohol and the 2010s rebrand of drunk sex as "rape", rather than deliberate choice to lower one's inhibitions, were the death spell to the west's demographic future and family formation. I'm not being sarcastic. High inhibition peoples (Europeans/Asians) simply can't breach the barrier to have sex and kids without either substance use or arranged marriages. Many medieval and even antique folk songs were about getting drunk, dancing and "pairing up". The …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:50 PM
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I have, quite a few times. One for chasing skirts too much (showing message from another girl I didn't know was her friend), others just laughs and contempt, once a really low blow mocking health issues I had that derailed my studies. I wouldn't care much before MeToo hysteria arrived here (6 years late vs the Anglosphere), but nowadays I thread a bit more lightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:53 PM
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To provide personal emotional support, almost certainly. To retaliate against the accused, I'd need strong, almost unprovable, evidence, unless the accuser is very close to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:27 PM
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Almost all the 2nd wave feminists rallied against it. From the tip of my tongue, Andrea Dworkin, Shulamith Firestone. The latter is an edge case, but the former is the center figure of the movement to this day. They succeeded, reducing it to a purely financial commitment that can be broken at any time for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:59 PM
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They were, more than nowadays, until no fault divorce became the law of the land. Before, marriage came with the duty to have sex with their husbands, not to use contraception behind their back, and not cheat on them. The other way around too, although male cheating was notoriously harder to prove, for men were expected not to be home more time. A divorce resulting from failing these duties would leave the house to the part that was failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:50 AM
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Yes, it's obvious to me where it's legal that odds are even further stacked against men in the USA and such. Family-minded men still compete for family-minded women, but easily accessible and clearly priced sex acts as a cap to how much money men will spend on woman otherwise, and what kind of treatment they tolerate. It also helps that alimony/child support bills don't scale with their income as much. Getting pregnant by a high-income man doesn't entitle one to child support beyond needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:26 AM
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Germany and the Netherlands disprove this, an hour goes for the median daily wage, maybe even less due to foreign "wage-dumping". In places where it's simply decriminalised and it can be done in any home it's even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:09 AM
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I won't argue the about the validity of that concern (although I see it as an exaggerated American (t)radfem moral panic). I'm just saying that the distance from everyone else creates an huge barrier for any prospective prostitute that needs to be properly paid, just like a displaced oil platform worker compared to any other chemical industry worker. Celebrating such workers' privileges to be well-paid seems distasteful. Where it's legal most anyone can waltz in and out seamlessly: the college s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:56 AM
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We say this, but the dating culture is even more female-slanted where it's illegal. The USA/France feel even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:34 AM
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It's only that expensive because those small towns in the middle of the desert are the only ones where it's legal in the entire huge and incredibly wealthy country that the USA is. Where it's legal across the land, including the actually inhabited places (BR,CO,PT,DE,NL,CZ,HU), it goes on average for the median daily salary, and shorter and cheaper experiences are feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:31 AM
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Motte: Panda bears are safer than men Bailey: Bears (as commonly used) are safer than men Even the motte is on shaky grounds, as panda bears get vicious is they feel threatened, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:00 PM
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This overlap was noticeable to me too. The most misandric sex-negative radfem posts on twitter are liked by a disproportionate number of accounts that proudly claim to be anorexic, or to have a dangerously low target weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:40 PM
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Whether you like it or not, acknowledging these psychosocial trends at work will lead to a diminished opinion of women; or at the very least an impetus against their political, economic and social empowerment in face of the Current Year's, if a more benevolent paternalistic perspective is to be taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:15 PM
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Yes, and? This is a good explanation the phenomenon in OP, as more and more young men are acutely aware than only a few men can expect to regularly have casual sex in these times, for reasons the internet is discussing often: Dating concentrating in apps, which are very look-centric, dissolution of physical communities, less partying and drinking, drunk sex being considered "rape", gatekeeping and infantilization of teens, the sea of digital distractions. It's indeed not Maturity, just like it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:22 PM
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Where prostitution is legal, it's much cheaper than where it's illegal. The risk of imprisonment and harm for both parties, the resulting low frequency of "transactions", and the targetted deportation of immigrant prostitutes(but not the immigrant men that go to them) is what drives the prices up. A basic experience goes for 40-50€ in the Netherlands, 30€ in Portugal, 20-25€ in Hungary and 15-20€ in Brazil. You can compare it to the average income, and it's still much lower than e.g. the USA. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:58 PM
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Beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:23 PM
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You're just generalizing turn-of-the-century leftist memes. The Catholic church is taken over by actual Marxists (liberation theologists ) nowadays, defending mass migration; but even before that, the more conservative iteration that was behind the many Integralist regimes of the mid-XX century was anticapitalist and pro-welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:23 PM
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We need to standardize it to age. If they have fewer years to cheat (and they're years of lower libido), then the chance of them cheating will naturally be lower. It's the same fallacy as in "those who marry at 18-21 have the highest rate of divorce so we shouldn't encourage it": that's because they're married in their teens/early 20s, age of much turbulence and rash decisions. The yearly divorce rate at any given age is similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:04 AM
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The calculations include them, yes. They need to carry their own weight or crush under it. IMO there should be no sentence between 12y of hard work and the death penalty - it's just pointless. But I'm just digressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:47 AM
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They do better than comparable countries in Europe. The most conservative parts of the world hold much lower expectations when it comes to standards of living, female education, status and prestige, and this is what really matters. All of these being constant, social conservatism seems a drag on having children, as it further narrows the norm on what an acceptable family is. The USA/New World/AU/NZ is different, for conservative areas holds lower expectations in those domains than liberal/progre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:42 AM
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You're the one lacking in reading comprehension, even if admittedly my comment wasn't written with full sentences. What I mentioned is that, even for comparable contributions, WOMEN TAKE MUCH MORE FROM THE STATE. Even with all the initiatives to discriminate in favour of women men still pay more in taxes, though. Claiming that it's none of my business is absurd, it's every taxpayer's business. The day women once again have to "work" for men's money instead of voting it out of their wallets, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:24 AM
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Halt! Any kind of welfare program acts as a transfer of money from men to women, specially true of social security due to the difference in life expectancy, but also of healthcare (since women live more years in poor health). Even if most women are not prostitutes, this financial power vs men surely lowers the former's esteem and attraction for the latter. This is nothing compared to the all encompassing power of the state and public safety, which renders the protection of males in everyday life…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:37 AM
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I didn't intend to suggest that being very involved in one's kids lives is at odds with good parenting. I'm just saying that it isn't necessary for it to be the parents in particular fostering their skills and interests, and delegating/leaving room for personal choice is fine. Amidst teachers, trainers, assorted older family members, and the streets, kids until a few decades ago raised themselves just fine, they didn't lag behind. It's preferable that having kids feels self-actualising, but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:03 AM
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No, the purity spiral actually kills off what little natality we have left. The countries in Europe where natives still have some fertility are the secular ones with a culture of hands off parenting and acceptance of out-of-marriage children: France, Czechia, and up to not long ago the Nordics/NL. The worse? Conservative Catholic countries with intensive parenting and stigma on out-of-marriage children: Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece (Orthodox but still stands), and even Poland and Hungary, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:08 PM
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The 70s twin studies, and the modern studies in poligenic scores, show this to be bunk. It's all genes. Among parents with similar poligenic scores for parental abandonment, their kids do nearly the same regardless of whether the father is actually in their lives. Same for time mothers spend with children. The "hormonal bonding" talk is woo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:02 PM
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"Wanting legacy and having kids of good genetic stock" is a perfectly valid reason to have them. The norm that children are supposed to be some project in self-actualisation is tragic, as it's the cause of the fertility collapse among the most intelligent and capable among us. Only women who are not doing well in their career have them early and often because of it. What OP is suggesting, minus the lack of a wife, is what many highly-educated high-class families in more conservative places used …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:44 PM
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I pressed enter too soon, sorry. I meant precludes women from many marriage prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:21 AM
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Respect, financial impact, point 1 still stands: having an high income and getting used to it precludes women from many marriage prospects. Even between a woman and man working for the same average salary, the woman gets significant transfers to her across her lifetime. I have no doubt that if they were visible and required women to actually to get a man's (or several) approval they wouldn't resent, but actually feel grateful for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:30 AM
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The redpill talks about this so many times: high-powered career women struggle to find men who they can respect, this is, those who outdo them; and among the ones who do, they can afford to and often do chose a more pleasant/feminine, more family minded and/or younger partner (these often overlap). Success actually narrows the dating pool for women. The cause for this comfort among women with staying single isn't just career opportunities, though. The welfare state still transfers a massive amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:03 AM
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Mandatory testing as a prerequisite for establishing parental duties is not authoritarianism. This comparison needs to be done on a closes system and the information deleted, but it's reasonable in itself. Before giant databases of people's lives, courts still enforced laws and investigated crimes and torts through physical evidence. Edit: Maybe I misread the meaning of mandatory paternity testing. Of course a man should have the right to accept this role at birth without testing, what I'm sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:03 PM
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Correct, but even then, if the woman has been slutty in the past, then this fake signalling of purity adds insult to injury (of hanging around sexless). Story time, back in HS/1st year of Uni I was very "bluepilled" about dating/sexual politics, turn of the century anomie/hedonism/sleaze style. There was this stereotypical ultra-left libfem chick I occasionally hung out with in the park/beach/parties, dressed in slutty goth/alt clothes, slept around a lot (and everyone in town knew it). She stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:26 PM
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It's one thing coming from a virgin, or a woman who has only been in serious relationships (only possible to know in a small/medium town before the kids spread across the land). Now, if a woman has slept around, or we can't know for sure because she "travelled around a lot", and is withholding sex as a compliance mechanism as she gets older, that's a trick we're no longer fooled by. Yes, travelling is an indicator of high openness/ risk-proneness/stimulation-seeking, it really is a solid proxy o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:27 PM
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Lmao, here in Portugal middle schoolers dance in skimpy bikinis. I forget you Americans really consider teens "children" at times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:26 PM
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I wouldn't want that person to forgive the people (or system) responsible for the loss of their right hand, nor would I want them stop a promethean pursuit for a bionic replacement hand, even if it came at a massive cost and was ultimately futile. I'll never forgive the medical safetyism of the Covidians that kept me withering for 2 years with agonizing and crippling digestive disorder, and on top of that made any attempts of enjoying small moments of normality near impossible. I don't forgive C…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:45 PM
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You see a misandrist group that is confortable with the extiction of their people(anti-natalism/anti-impact ideology, degrowth), freeriding on the protection and welfare state of the men they refuse to sleep and have kids with, and identify them as "conservative" because they are sex-negative and anti-trans. Incredible. I'm not even blaming you as a Blue Pill Woman, too many conservatives have embraced TERFs for this exact reason despite their ideas being the ones actually driving the west into …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:39 AM
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4B movement. I'm on mobile right now, but posts on X celebrating the extinction of South Koreans because of it regularly get tens of thousands, if not upwards of 100K, likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:45 AM
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That an ideology is more adopted by people who are doing well in life doesn't mean that it's right. It may just be that it's in THEIR self-interest even if not in that of the broader society/group. This fallacy presents itself in other ways, such as immigrationism by business owners and highly educated professionals, or opposition to the welfare state by the well-off. There is a term for this, "luxury beliefs", if you want to read more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:07 AM
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Exactly, can't OP read between the lines? Neighbour considered the guy not to meet her standards for a partner until 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:54 PM
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You're validating the concept of The Wall, career women who want to settle down with a guy "on their level" after her prime years are restricted to older guys, since those guys have options. That is an handicap, no? The opportunity to get commitment from one her age was when they were both young, he still had not proven himself and was broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:51 PM
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It does add to it, but more of this is pure heredity and insane kids having insane parents than just upbringing. Whenever I'm on PC I'll fetch the studies, but "70s twins studies" should get you there. Read also "the son also rises" descendants of Chinese nobles/bourgeois dispossessed by the communist revolution outperform the populace in income, despite a generation being forced into work camps and discriminated against. And how the cities in Siberia to where many intellctuals were sent to Gula…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:37 PM
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Symptom, not a cause. Mental illness causes dating problems. However, recent societal norms with chilling effects on social interactions (political correctness/MeToo) do fuel both problems directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:38 PM
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Beat me to it. Most children raised by a single parent with the other absent have both a wreck of a mother and father, and most of our personality, health and talents are highly inheritable. (Or its the upbringing, if this makes you feel better) Of these, most stay with the mother that gave birth to them. Single fathers? They are usually extraordinary men (and have a good familial support network).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:35 PM
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It can harden girls, yeah, but this doesn't necessarily make them fail at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:30 PM
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Statistically, not only sons but also daughters raised by single fathers do beat than those of single mothers in most metrics IIRC, but I think this results from bias. When both the mother and father are wrecks of people (mental instability is inheritable), usually the kid stays with the mother; while in the few cases of single fathers having custody, he usually is an extraordinary person, often with familiar support (parents/siblings/cousins) that can give a daughter some support with girls' is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:28 PM
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Pre WW2, where women voted for fascist/integralist parties and men for liberal ones? The immediate post-war, where the left-wing was masculine and Christian conservatism feminine? Interesting phenomena, but the mechanism was similar: great disjunction between the noospheres of men and women. Maybe 1965-2010 was when they were more overlapping than ever. Years of liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:08 PM
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It's real, but it's greater now than any time since women were able to vote. And yes, single women separated from boys since their formative years are "married to", and influenced by, the state/social media; whereas before they'd be influenced by their SOs or just the men in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:41 AM
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This article throws all kinds of terrible words, but the actual accusation hinges on porn prodution itself being "pimping", procuring performers "human trafficking", and the degrading sex acts and words "an attempt on human dignity". The american insanity of "sex when doped is rape even if the woman consented sober" was rejected in the French upper court not long ago, this is another charge at it. The "contract didn't specify the acts" is the only one that'd be in effect a decade ago. And yes, T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:24 AM
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As a matter of fact, there's a major convergence between conservatives and radical feminists in this. The classic liberal/68ard libertine leftist permissivity is a dying position. Legislation is tightening in many places. E.g. France, where not only digital IDs were made required to access porn websites, but porn producers are in court for sexual abuse because their porn scenes "were an abuse of human dignity" as the women "were penetrated and manhandled by many men and sodomized" (not kidding, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:05 PM
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Reagan, who shared her ideology across the pond, enacted the same things to the same effect. TPTB benefit from female empowerment for it brings stability and respect for the institutions, they say this openly, even the male leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:07 PM
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No, you as a man shouldn't feel threated. It'd take leverage away from women, that of gatekeeping whether a man will have kids. All it'd take is a few female egg donors for groups of romantically unsuccessful but economically decent(or even mediocre) men to be able to have kids. Have saved some money in the city, and possibilities are endless. Maybe most singles are struggling to make ends meet, but e.g. a Son of a shrinking generation who has family members in a rural area, a vacant family home…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:59 PM
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Sperm is much easier (and thus cheaper) to get than eggs. All it takes is a few top guys, while banks are much more lenient with egg donors. It still is minimal, and a minority of women with a great will to power could fulfill the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:21 PM
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As long as there're sedatives. If the conservative-feminist crusade against porn suceeds, you may have levels of violence returning to historical norms. This is such a stupid move on the feminists' part I can't fathom, every study attributes a decrease in rape and SA of minors to its availabilty; but whenever there's such a crime Con/Fems come out and blame porn. Oh well. I can see conservatives/dissidents benefiting from the tension though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:38 PM
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If the terms are favourable, yes. Having few siblings and in line to inherit reasonable wealth if I do things right, I know myself to be a steward of it through the generations to my children. I certainly will never give a woman enough leeway to undo me financially though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:21 PM
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Hot take: K-12 teaching can be mostly automated by AI, and this is why teachers are so hellbent on banning devices in class: to keep kids under learned helplessness and feeling indebted to them. Personally, I've always learned better from books and the internet than I did from classes. Some teachers were good, but a good 30% of them were just reading/writing the down manual. It didn't cripple my learning much, though. 'Fake e-mail job" territory. Of course some guidance was needed, but a subject…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:14 PM
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It's harder to raise kids because the amount of attention that is demanded towards them, and the consequences for any bad outcome of freedom/leeway granted to them, have skyrocketed. For most of history most kids would be working by 10y, and even with extended schooling, the average latchkey kid from the 80s would targeted by CPS nowadays. This can be attributed to the safetyist female (and elderly) vote though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:58 PM
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It happens silently. Men are on average net taxpayers. The biggest component of all is social security: women get funded with on average 7 extra years of retirement. Men's income is on average higher and thus more taxes at each age. but a major difference is the time women take off work for childcare and its impact on their careers Relevant even if it's not as much as you may think, but this would get evened out in a marriage with shared accounts. It gets evened out by the state in the event tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:22 AM
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I completely agree. I found it analogous in that the valid criticism of the other sex's behavior quickly leads to the apology of antissocial behavior towards them and consequently society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:55 AM
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A bit like women don't that tricking men into dumping resources on them, or above all redistributing it to them via the state by voting, is theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:59 AM
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This "red pill mentality" is open to the goal of marrying a good woman and starting a family vs just sleeping around. It's theory of female behaviour, even if mostly correct, can make one jaded, bitter and cynical towards women though, a bit like feminism does by painting men as abusive rapist monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:53 AM
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"Grown adult women" care about what others think, a lot more than men do. This is not questioned in psychology/sociology. Maybe you don't of "guys like me", since you identify me as disempowered, but you certainly do of who/whatever is an authority to you. The state, the media, workplace, your friends, family, even the dating prospects you have that "accept your past"? Someone validates you. Of course that's the point of "being a cougar", but the truth is that there are fewer nowadays than ~20 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:11 PM
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Ok, by 65, maybe. In their 50s there are still plenty of cougars. And that's besides the point, quite a few don't seek another serious relationship at all, so they take a wild ride with a young gentleman while they still can, if that's what they've been lacking in their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:19 AM
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I think this is why it's harmful for their reputation and thus few are conspicuous about it. It's not as much being seen "abuser groomer p3dos" or whatever men get flak for, but the subtext is that they're just looking for casual sex/relationships, and that's not looked at fondly, specially on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:16 AM
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Women who who undergo a nasty divorce late in life sometimes don't want another serious relationship at all, and young guys they can have fun with seem a nice deal. It aids not having kids left to raise, more so if they have adult kids they're engaged with than if they have none, and having close friends in a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:05 AM
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Yes, but you already know the drawbacks, don't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:52 PM
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Nowhere but the USA and some former English colonies has it at 18, and even then it's 16 within marriage. It's psychotically high, 8-6 years past pubert being infantilized and stopped from pursuing one's desires(or being pursued). Pretty hard to recover from this, or feeling guilty for desiring FULLY GROWN girls. The increase in mandatory schooling can't be used as an excuse to stop teens from living adventures at the age they have the most will and courage to get out of their comfort zone. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:42 AM
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"Teenagers had more freedom and more lived experience back then, that's why we now have to legally stop them from living and dating, and f*cking" is one hell of an argument. The purity spiral of infantilization keeps escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:20 AM
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It's an indicator of high libido/openness/agreeableness. Maybe when a woman denying herself to her husband would be valid grounds for divorce in terms favorable to him, it would be meaningless, but since no fault divorce/"marital rape" laws were put in place it's a good indicator a dead bedroom won't await a man once he ties the knot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:14 AM
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If this were a significant factor, it would mean that kids in the greater Western world should have had a drop, or at least deceleration, in the rates of autism in the past 2-3 decades, as environmental and alimentary legislation tightened. There is none, the trend continues unabated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:29 PM
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Correct, but they had a few kids early and a few late. Not as bad as only having them late. The early kids had more kids of their own in a lot of places too: where the stem/authoritarian family structure was custom (most of western Europe), primogeniture had the firstborn son inheriting the house/farm and have a large family, while the second son had to build his wealth in the navy/military or some other risky/gruelling endeavour for a chance to marry. You're nailing an inconvenient truth, thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:22 PM
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They threaten this shit with girls because they consider that her reputation or psyche will be harmed - not with boys, unless it's a man flipping their boy gay, that is my point. Latin America? You know very well many girls that age go prowling in the streets for casual sex or date older guys openly. In Portugal here quite a few parents were glad for their daughter's relationship, including my grandma at my aunt's 13(in the 70s, IK). This last generation has grown immersed in American media so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:08 PM
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This is because casual sex is considered socially and psychologically damaging for girls and not boys! And like it or not, it is socially, and with the media hammering them that it's sexual abuse, psychologically as well. The golden days of the sexual revolution are long over. I'm not saying that guys aren't more likely to try something, but that's because men are hornier, and girls are attractive at younger ages than boys since: they physically mature earlier (boys stop growing at 18, girls at …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:52 PM
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This part of the argument can be mirrored: a son could get pregnant a good-for-nothing chick that would rather go partying and taking child support only to spend it on herself is similar in content, he could end up in the clutches of a controlling, humilitating and abusive girlfriend (quite a few friends were fucked up by this to the point of avoiding dating onwards), or even one that throws false accusation of rape and DV, making him a target for others' violence, or threatens to do so in order…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:23 PM
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Silent Generation grandpa did so when it came to technological advances, specially in medicine, and standards of living. Never about "being a man". He looked back at his time in the military positively, actually, athough he never was deployed. Incredibly, I think he was aware that things got harder for men, and bemoaned how they used to have state-run brothels where the girls were tested for STDs when he was younger. Still a devoted husband to the point of enabling the worst behaviors in my gran…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:41 AM
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I've met one, but it's rare
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:17 PM
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It's a different demographic of woman: the hedonist, who cares about money as a tool for joy and not for status or just wants a specific career, who isn't really a "leader" but an highly qualified professional, often a doctor/nurse. I know a few of them, one in my family. They date/marry fun and easygoing blue-collar jocks/artists, who with more flexible schedules end up as the primary caretakers for the children. These couples don't have many children at all, are hands-off parents (at least for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:37 PM
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The kind of woman who foregoes both having fun and and family when young to grind in her career/studies is incredibly status and money-driven. She's not into guys that she feels to be "lesser" than her; and after years of climbing Mt.Ego, it's almost all of them (and the ones who are good enough, they're well-off enough to get a younger woman to have a family, or just have fun with hot young babes). She feels that a beta man would cost them money and even status, and incredibly, among PMC circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:21 PM
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Male disposability is a valid explanation, but it goes beyond that. Russia offers little compensation to its men for the risks they are called to take, while a generous social security regime overwhelmingly benefits women (62 retirement age for men, 57 for women). Can you deny that women are pampered while men are bossed around? When you see street interviews, the demographic that shouts the loudest for Ukrainian blood, no matter how many Russian boys it's costing, are babushkas. It's them who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:41 AM
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Yeah, I'm from Portugal and that's the definition of "handling one's drink" we have too. I don't think that's the one that Americans have. To them, you're supposed to be a near teetotaler by 30, it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:43 AM
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Russia and China seem less feminist at first glance, but: Russia has a callous disregard for men's lives, and women are unashamed to speak of them as tools to expand Mother Russia while they stay confortable and have few kids themselves. China's marxist feminism means the one thing they won't use force for is making women bear children, even as their birth rate is collapsing. Their media virtue signals against the exploitation that surrogacy constitutes, as well as against prostitution in a coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:39 AM
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That posture against alcohol is a very American thing that didn't make it to the rest of the West until the XXIcent. Politicians and generals used to drink like frat boys when they met up, and people drank until they died. As recently as when I was a kid (2000s), some of my aunts and uncles, and even my grandparents often got hammered at family lunches without any shame. It stopped when the the youngest aunt got pregnant and never returned as strong. If we now people are infantilized until much …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:22 PM
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The obvious explanation is that female-typical emotionality clutches onto the government/state and strengthens it, while male-typical emotion lashes out against it and destabilizes it. Thus, regimes have everything to gain in celebrating female-t emotions and cracking down on male-t one. Everywhere women vote, their vote is more authoritarian and communalist than men's. The UN is very open about how they want to empower girls and women to preserve peace and safety (i.e. boot on the neck). The re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:25 PM
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over half of men under 30 had not had sex in the last year and everyone shamed them and compared them to incels That is the definition of incel. That it started being used as an insult validates OP's point, and that some good male feminists accept being involutarily celibate and don't begrudge the present social contract for enabling it, like in incel forums, changes nothing Yes, it's not a priority for many men and they didn't ask women out, but a social structure where it can bring criminal ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:18 PM
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It's consistenly shown that kids who get hit (or shouted at a lot, btw) as kids behave worse at school and end up commiting more crimes. It might be just genetics, given that petty, irascible, violent parents give birth to similar kids, so hell if I know. I had a few classmates who were assholes, always angry, picking on people and starting fights, incredibly sensitive to criticism, even if deep down it not ill-intentioned and part of our cliques. Often fat (stress eating?). When meeting their g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:38 PM
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That's my point: so long as this is an option for mothers, it's clearly discriminatory that father should for forced to pay child support should they explicitly claim they don't intend to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:45 AM
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I mean, all but the latter were not loving, but fit the bill otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:45 PM
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It's burning that demographic. The Midwestern blue wall was smashed by Trump with his secular, nativist rhetoric and is now returning with these extreme restrictions on abortion. Also, wealthy suburbs of large cities have shifted blue in the past few cicles with a female slant. It's the rural world and small town and latinos that became redder
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:32 PM
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Do you have any idea how tyrannical the idea of debtors' prisons sounds to people outside of the USA in this century (or the past)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:28 PM
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This commentary is less about Red and Blue pill but the social contract in the USA as a whole: This proposal would be broadly consistent with pro-life laws (which I challenge, but moving on), but even with them... mothers have the right to relinquish their newborn's guard at birth. It'd be unfathomable to take this away, due to fears of infanticide. Taking this in consideration, that father can be, against their will, demanded to pay child support is clearly discriminatory. That men can be put i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:16 PM
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Yes, I'd be beneath the standards of such a woman because it's incredibly high standards, in conduct, finances, and status, that would keep her a virgin until that late. I know such women. First one was Silent Gen, teacher(then very high status), married late(mid-30s) to mid/high income husband, still had 4 kids (FMMF, 1F physically impaired). Was an overbearing, status-driven, cruel mother that fucked up most of her children. Husband did nothing but work to stack wealth and was barely given a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:44 PM
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Perfect is a personal definition, and the chances that the woman who matured alone, engaged in her career, fits it are slim, unless that's the specific type of women you're looking for. Tbh, a woman being a virgin so late would be a red flag for a dead bedroom later on. Low libido very likely. Alternatively, her values could oppose it, but together with postponing marriage until "she has a good job", it's a red flag of a neurotic, status driven woman, who would be crushing to me and future child…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:04 PM
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This is untrue. Body aside, the young chick is much more desirable because she still has a plastic personality that can be molded. Older women vilify men for seeking them "before they ended neurodevelopment" but that is a very valid reason. This is why young couples, overcoming the troubles of youth, are the happiest later in life: they've molded one another to the point where they are irreplaceable. Whether a woman was lonely careerist, slept around a lot, or put effort into a failed long term …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:33 PM
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It's fine if you do so. Just don't expect men to be more attuned to your progressive sensitivies. The "social liberalism" of western/northern Europe (Britain aside) is not that of "princess feminism", but a bit more like the fin-de-siècle anomie you denounced before. Your very wide definitions of statutory rape/rape/sexual harassment/coercion don't fly here, even if NGOs are trying hard to push them. A dead bedroom is a relationship killer and guys won't stick around with it unless financially/m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:41 AM
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Force, force,force... that the threat of it use suffices doesn't change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:28 AM
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And the unit of exchange for their product/service is countable, fungible money, not abstract status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:24 AM
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They are, but mostly because of genetics and not the family structure in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:35 PM
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It's not very cancellable when you say it's about nurture. Now, that's about the genetics of the kind of man who abandons his child and the mother who willingly bears his child, that gets you silenced. Paternal orphans or those whose father's job makes them absent don't do worse than kids with married/cohabiting parents, and kids adopted by stable couples do as bad as the children of single mothers. I might send the sources later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:06 PM
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It was lauded in the same way that outlaws and pirates were: up until very recently we had admiration for antissocial, violent figures. Morality was not universalist and taking from an outgroup for the sake of an ingroup was to be celebrated. Power often was seized with weapons and it gave it legitimacy enough for people to accept it, unless they were willing to fight for the former ruler. So, yeah, it was perceived as more of an humiliation for the cucked man (spotlight of many medieval satires…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:12 PM
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https://macsphere.mcmaster.ca/bitstream/11375/11033/1/fulltext.pdf Concretely mentionioning in XVIII century in London it approached 20%! https://brill.com/display/book/9789004346253/BP000006.xml https://books.openedition.org/etnograficapress/4663 https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Italian_Studies/dweb/society/sex/prostitution.php https://books.openedition.org/etnograficapress/4663 https://ojs.lib.uwo.ca/index.php/westernumirror/article/download/16100/12495/39564 Very loose sources, but they indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:53 PM
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Adultery from the male side in itself was LESS frowned upon, most great men you read about in history had affairs and going to prostitutes was the norm. Insofar as men weren't corrupting virgins or sleeping with married women (yeah, a matter of honor), them cheating was of little importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:44 AM
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It was bifurcated. A man who "corrupted innocent girls" (read: took their virginities) was shunned, forced into a shotgun marriage if single, and could be dueled by their family for their honor. Religious courts sometimes convicted them, but only major womanizers (as in 5+ women). However, ~3-10% of females 12y+ were prostitutes at any given time, approaching 10-25(!)% over their lifetime, in most of the West from the low middle ages until the late modern period, with the arrival of the syphilis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:28 AM
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I tend to agree that many guys would prefer to "ride the caroussel" first even if it came at the expense of their future wife having done so too, that just marry young and as virgins. The original redpillers leaned that way. That a cohort of chicks spend their youth hooking up with a relatively small(er) group of guys is the core complaint. See the "theoretical slut" that a male-oriented libertine pop culture celebrated throughout the vulgar wave(90-08): if women were sexual enough, it'd trickle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:54 AM
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Interesting article, but it's filled with loose extrapolations. That someone having sex means they are in a relationship is one. That the men women think they're in a relationship with, but not the other way around, don't have more than one of them hooked, or consider one as a real relationship and not others. So on, and so forth. Edit: Found the source: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:52 AM
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Those relationships are very downstream of the material. If young women needed men's "help" from young ages to be provided with the costs of their higher education, healthcare, protection from internal and external enemies, and social security (to cover higher life expectancy), they wouldn't feel that they don't depend on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:33 PM
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However, men are coerced to provide the disproportionately female expenses/needs in healthcare, education, safety and social security(longer life expectancy). It's young men who are at risk of being called to die should a war start (and peacetime conscription is being seriously brought up in many western countries). Men are still disproportionately the payers, and if the gap is closing, it isn't because men are no longer more productive, ceteris paribus; but that more men are dropping out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:59 PM
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If they aren't settling down in their youth, they are either sleeping without commitment to the hottest guy available (or the one they can get more resources/costly experiences from), scenario that you've said is minoritarian, or they're sexless or at least disengaged from dating in their youth. I brought up this latter case. The average age college-educated women have the first child was 30 by 2018 (likely higher now), and many have none. This is in the USA. Here in Portugal it's even later and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:15 PM
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/ Edit - found the source: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Loose collection of sources. Of course many women are single by choice, now that they are empowered by the provision of higher education, healthcare, protection and social security by taxpayers, which allows them to reach parity in available income, and as such feel t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:02 PM
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It is, and the implication is that many a young women thinks they're in a relationship, whereas they are in practice just another concubine on a very desired young man's harem. That, and they're dating older men, but it isn't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:23 AM
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The implication is that young women are dating older men (not that common tbh, avg difference is 3y), but also that a select number of men are juggling de facto harems and keeping several young women on the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:20 AM
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Maybe you grew up in a big bubble of sunshine and rainbow, but statistics show it to be the exception, not the rule. The majority are single and a small number of men are having whole harems (38% females, 63% males 18-30 single). If you choose to ignore the data, that's on you. Hell, you're coaxing a guy to stay with his GF despite her sexually depriving him in another post. As if it were not enough this atmosphere of suspicion and persecution of male sexuality that kept many in our generation s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:06 AM
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So, you admit there's a large cohort of sexless careerist women through their teens and 20. Wasting the years when they're sexier and more fertile alone or not putting in actual effort in relationships due to a underlying learned contempt for men. By 30s or even late 20s, they demand an accomplished and higher-earning men of their age, to match her lifestyle. There aren't many, some who didn't have success earlier are content living a bachelor's lifestyle where their money allows them a upper ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:45 AM
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We may not like it, but these concern trolls are very likely to succeed in pushing legislation based on these edge cases, or just teaching their daughters that being sexually desired in their teens is normal, like it was in every normal era until 1980 or the 2000s outside of the anglosphere. Some former teen slut who later embraced radfem ideology will come out and complaint her single dad didn't teach her enough disgust for men and thus she was "groomed as an innocent 16yo child 😇😇😇".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:16 PM
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To be fair, those boys are way past puberty and in their age of peak aggressiveness and libido. If you want to call them children though, yes, there are more cases of female "p3d0philia" since teen boys are easier than teen girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:10 PM
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I'm not talking about their tactics but their internal justification for raising the Age of Consent and cracking down on prostitution (things in which they had advances still in the late XIX century in the anglosphere): "young girls are so easy and men are spending the money that they should spend in us middle-class wives on low-class prostitutes in brothels. We need to keep girls celibate for more time that they have time to learn how repulsive men are". Progressive-era (when it reached the USA…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:55 PM
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Yes, I acknowledge this is the reason women punish sluts, guard others (esp younger women) against sex, and oppose prostitution - because these take leverage from them. Early feminists were very explicit about it, but we've got lost in layers and layers of window dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:44 PM
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I don't think the target wants, this is just an internally imposed custom in order to keep the price of sex high for men by eliminating scabs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:15 PM
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1 - Yes, it seems okay. That's what makes work not slavery; and it's universally accepted for young men to be drafted to fight and die, even if they don't want that trade. It abusive that you demand that while not allowing EVEN THOSE MEN, in a terrible position to start families, to buy sex, like they did for centuries. 2 - The "human trafficking" buzzwork you Americans started to use for proxenetism needs to stop: it's a catch-all to vilify from illegal security and renting to slavery. 3 - It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:38 PM
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Losing inhibitions is the point of getting drunk. If your friend asks you to do it is one thing - but you're not entitled to mateguard her otherwise. It's like saying it's abusive if I get punched for some offensive thing I say while drunk because I wasn't in control. I know Americans had some obscene court cases where a guy was convicted of rape for having sex with another drunk girls,elsewhere it's people's own responsibility. Eg. France upheld it. If you decide to drive while drunk, it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:24 PM
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"younger men have nothing to offer" because older women get personal and material protection distributed from men to them. When it's time to be drafted, who is called to risk their lives? Who is getting underpaid for high-risk jobs? On the flipside, it's women who dominate in consuming the tax money spent on higher education, that allows them to be strong, independent women. It's them who consume the hospital services for kids that belong to a skewed distribution of men. It's them who live longe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:02 PM
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At least, not to be force to have income redistributed to the women they aren't sleeping with, and being allowed to keep in in the prostitution business with the new inflow of women needing to work there. Not having them support the welfare cost of kids from single moms/deadbeat baby daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:52 PM
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You're protecting yourself from men having the alternative of easy p**sy. You don't own your friend's body
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:38 PM
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Not that kind of safety. Safety as is absence of danger, for which they are indeed willing to trade in civic liberties when voting. Even then, "over mid-30s" is now the wide majority of voters. The aging of the population is as big a factor in the shift towards safetyism as female empowerment in itself. Hell, it's men who have bigger personality shifts as testosterone levels drop. Btw, "in the wild", a dangerous, adventurous guy is the kind that can provide them safety and food. It's just in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:07 PM
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The men you consider to be on your level in your 30s are dating younger women, you're left with the maladaptives because they spent most of their younger years in sexlessness and loneliness, or enjoying hedonistic pleasures without thinking about the future. You expect men who toiled for years to only recently have access to the candy shop, while you had it since you were 18, to commit to you? Get real You want a high-level man? You should've grown together with him when you were both young, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:35 PM
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