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Sorry, what was that? You got proven wrong and were to much of a coward to admit it? Pathetic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:32 AM
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The difference is men don’t lie about that choice, women do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:24 AM
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You love PHYSICALLY attractive men * FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:23 AM
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When people are hurt, the best thing to do is call there feelings “whining”. Nothing dismissive about that /s Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:22 AM
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They are simply pointing out how often men will simply say “I am struggling and not getting dates” and the responses by many women are “well, it must be your own fault. What did you do? You must not be hygienic, you must be a misogynist, etc” Why assume it’s those things? and why not admit implying they must be a bad person if they aren’t successful, is classic just world fallacy thinking? Is it because its less depressing then to acknowledge that certain men aren’t doing anything wrong and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:21 AM
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Why not just admit they have a point instead of gaslighting them? You know damn well that telling unsuccessful men that “you MUST be failing because of your own faults. You must just be a misogynist and that’s why you are failing” isn’t true, and is a just world fallacy. Why can’t you admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:13 AM
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Yes. Validating is more important then lying. You aren’t “sparing there feelings” by trying to lie to them (they see right through it, so it’s not like it works) your sparing YOU’RE feelings by not acknowledging there feelings because depressive realities makes you uncomfortable to admit to someone who can’t do anything about it. It’s selfish and under the guise that you are actually helping these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:10 AM
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It’s adorable how you don’t see how much women reinforce toxic masculinity. And you do too with you “man up” comments; that’s absolutely disgusting And of course you ignored Norah Vincent proving men have it just as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:26 AM
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So you just think women are better then men, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:24 AM
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You are right, you are a prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:24 AM
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So men can’t vent? You just think we are babies who are tough like feminists and haven’t put in the work, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:22 AM
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Women take pills because in the back of their mind they know they have a chance of surviving Women using extreme measures is making sure they will die. How dare you imply women take less extreme measures because they care more about there lives ones then men; how disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:12 AM
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Empathy isn’t your thing, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:12 PM
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Damn you got put in your place due being a huge hypocrite lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:00 PM
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Gen Z? Yeah, you are young based on what you type
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:07 AM
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This is adorable lol. You literally prove me right with this whole paragraph Just world fallacy is often what republicans think of poor people. They assume poor people are poor because they are lazy and must not try hard And YOU do the exactly thing with men. You completely assumed I don’t try. I am successful financially, with friends, and hobbies. I have exercised for decades and I am in good shape. I don’t struggle talking to women or making friends. You would know that if you asked. Unfortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:36 AM
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You are just perpetuating just world fallacy thinking because you can’t face reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:40 AM
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What makes you say that? You think women don’t want relationships as much as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:44 AM
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I am not talking just about sex. I am talking about even getting a date die long term relationship Men work MUCH harder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:43 AM
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Not to mention how much harder those men had to work then women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:40 AM
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Normal men often have sex with women that aren’t very attractive and they settle. I have seen it a million times. Men don’t admit it to females but they will admit it to men. Where as many more women get to shoot much higher and are successful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:39 AM
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“Normal men”. Oh, I see. Unfortunately, most normal men struggle to date. But I guess it’s easier to assume anyone who is struggling must be abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:28 AM
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Well that’s the thing. They just want that reality validated sometimes; just acknowledge it will always be hard and there really isn’t much that can be done But women can not conceive that it’s not these men’s fault somehow; it MUST be because they are a loser. It’s classic just world fallacy thinking. it’s more emotionally comfortable to believe that then see the unfortunate reality and, ya know, empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:26 AM
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It’s and I g how you literally ignored everything op said (might guess is because you can’t really refute it and don’t want to empathize with men at all)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:15 AM
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Your advice won’t get anyone anywhere. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:44 AM
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It’s extremely arrogant to think you have solved the nature vs nurture debate. I have met many kind and empathetic men that care a lot about feminism. To imply they just secretly don’t like women just makes me sad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:45 PM
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Wow. You really dont know what your talking about. I have seen feminist men make huge sacrifices to help women for nothing in return It really sounds like your just becoming a misandrist. It’s genuinely shocking you think there are no men who care (and have spent decades supporting and working for causes for women’s rights) about women in a genuine way. I am sorry for your bad experiences but men aren’t inherently evil and if you really feel that way then please don’t ever have a male child, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:41 PM
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Big claims from the misandrist, as always
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:28 PM
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Go to /menslib
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:27 PM
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Got a source then men biologically feel that way? Ever think about talking to feminist men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:26 PM
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Thank god you informed us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:05 AM
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Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:56 PM
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And men can’t vent apparently without you calling them victim seekers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:29 PM
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As opposed to /askfeminist? acknowledging your benefits is just too hard for you. Yes men are victims in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:28 PM
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Lololol. This is adorable. You wouldn’t last a week as a man. You have no idea what it’s like from BOTH men and women not letting you express emotions easily
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:26 PM
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No one said anything about forced to date here. Whst can you do? BE EMPATHETIC. That’s not asking too much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:21 PM
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And unfortunately, no women have responded to your post acknowledging that they at least have something to think about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:18 PM
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Lol. No one said I don’t come here, just that I don’t care to immediately read and respond to people. Not much of a reader, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:09 AM
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You don’t now what triggered means then lol. If I was triggered I would have immediately responded out of emotional frustration. Believe it or not, I have more things to do then point and laugh at idiots on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:45 PM
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Great reply to all I said. You ACTIONS sure aren’t showing you care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:40 PM
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Triggered the baby lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:07 AM
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You are incorrect, that’s the whole point of this thread; that we have ingrain bias to NOT support emotional men, Which then feeds the cycle of then not expressing themselves. You sound like you want to believe you are empathetic to men to feel good about yourself but you never actually SHOW any empathy toward men in this thread (you have to actually FEEL it die it to be empathy). It reminds me of men who swear up and down they have no unconscious bias Regarding misogyny in our culture toward wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 08:06 AM
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You are the one who brought up crying over something “stupid” when we were just talking about men expressing themselves. You just seemed to assume then any pushback women give to men is probably because the men are crying over stupid things. Did you ever consider that women are effected by the patriarchy in how they view men and might have a lesser tolerance for men expressing emotions vs women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:58 AM
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I am not talking about money strictly speaking. “Economics” in relationships is foundational; mutually beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:55 AM
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So women have no agency and it’s up to men to “pick” the right women? Do you know how that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:06 AM
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Do you think these things aren’t intrinsically related?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:45 PM
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Oh, it was “painful” That must be hard for you. No one is saying it’s attractive, but I think your lying to yourself if you think we aren’t less sympathetic to men opening up then women. We especially don’t like men being bitter or resentful because they are “supposed” to be above it all; “supposed” to be confident. We don’t like it on an existential level that men are just as doubtful of themselves as women. Every man I have ever known puts on an air of confidence; some more then others. It’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:34 AM
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yes, very true . Consider you might not know the nuance of this since you didn’t grow up as a man. Making declarative sweeping statements about what men do isn’t helpful (just like I should have qualified my statement about “women” better) Maybe consider having some empathy instead of looking down on men. I certainly have as much empathy as an outsider as I can (I try at least) with the conditioning women go through in our patriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:09 AM
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Don’t know how that negates what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:03 AM
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Feelings are bullshit? See a therapist, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:02 AM
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“…men, who are all about looks” That is not backed by psychological research, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:25 PM
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Damn, you got put in your place and weren’t mature enough to admit you were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:18 PM
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Most feminists agree women uphold toxic gender roles But I guess it’s easier to just blame men so you can act like women don’t do anything wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:21 AM
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Oh, nice whataboutism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:20 AM
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Who said anything about crying about minor inconveniences? Are you implying most cases of women having an issue when Men express themselves must be because the men must be acting like a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:19 AM
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Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:14 AM
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Yeah, women are so mature when they are upset …lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:11 AM
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So men who were treated poorly from women must have just been whiny babies, is that it? because women aren’t effected by gender expectations for men at all? So if a man was treated poorly for expressing himself he MUST have just be whining?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:11 AM
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Nice just world fallacy. “Maybe your unsuccessful with women because your bitter toward women!” As we know, only good men get relationships; their certainly aren’t heard of shitty men who can get relationships…/s Are you a feminist? Because if so your are not acknowledging women are influenced on what a man should be just as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:06 AM
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As opposed to selecting all the other options they have….oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:01 AM
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So you think women haven’t been conditioned by the patriarchy just like men are to not find men expressing emotions not ideal? Women in general don’t perpetuates gender role issues? I guess I will tell my mom, who called me faggot when I cried, that she doesn’t exist Ironically, saying “women don’t have any biases from our culture so if I women was turned off by you showing emotions, YOU must have been doing it wrong; it’s YOUR fault somehow; you must have been whining!” Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:00 AM
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Must be nice to be a women who generally all win at that game. Cushy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:31 PM
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Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:56 PM
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It’s adorable you think that. So men are pigs and women are altruistic beings who see everything? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:55 PM
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I feel like your being willfully obtuse. You know exactly the point the OP is getting at. That this article like a lot of talk surrounding this topic, downplays looks and pretends like women are just looking for personality. So, if it’s “obvious to everyone” that both matter what’s the point of talk and and articles like the one OP linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:53 PM
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I think the issue comes when many will admit, yes, both matter, but self aware or not, downplay looks A LOT so they can feel better about themselves. It’s the bullshitting to yourself and everyone around you (especially in a snarky, condescending way that we see around here; like, no, you dont get to be snarky when YOU are the one oblivious to your own self deception) that’s the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:50 PM
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So, “it is what it is” no point in trying to change anything? I take it you have this same outlook in all issues? It’s just the way life is, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:44 PM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:41 PM
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This exactly. But getting women on here to admit this conundrum they contributed to is too much to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:59 AM
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So women want affluent men and care about race more then men? Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:58 AM
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Yep. Both men and women never let you forget it growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:23 AM
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If corporations had there way no amount of hard work would pay the bills. Do you know how many people work REALLY hard to make ends meet? Do you really think if you just work hard everything will work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:55 PM
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See, you know your arguing in bad faith when you use extremes. The women friends I have on OLD have LOTS of options, most aren’t fat short , racist trump supporter. So they have plenty of good options that aren’t the boogeyman you describe as the norm lol. But you know that. You don’t really have an argument without implying that women only have the worst options imaginable. So again, what’s better, having lots of options, maybe a few are great, most are just average and a few are shitty (which …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:31 PM
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This is adorable. I remember being 12 and thinking the free market would solve all problems. “Businesses totally care about us and if we let them have few reign they will totally do the right thing and not screw over anyone for money!” /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:19 PM
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You think having options isn’t a measure of success??? Lolololol!!! Having options vs someone who has none is unequivocally a benefit and a leg up in the end goal. And you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:16 PM
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Well, ugly men do in fact care about being alone and how difficult even getting a date can be for them so I think venting is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:12 PM
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Oof. Found the libertarian
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:20 PM
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Having options is better then having none. But I am sure you will try and pretend like it’s not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:13 PM
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It’s about the attitude. The other poster and OP have said that. It’s the lack of empathy for men. Why do you keep ignoring that point? Why can’t women be compassionate about men who struggle dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:10 PM
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You never vent about things you can’t change?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:00 PM
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I think the real issue isn’t that it’s just an unfair part of life and there isn’t anything we can do really (which I think is true), it’s really the attitude of my fellow progressives, who often have a very cold, unempathetic, dispassionate response when men feel hurt by this and need to talk about it. There is a real “man up, stop whining, that’s just the way it is (huh, very similar tone to those “boot strap” conservatives when talking about poor people...).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:42 AM
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I do think sone aren’t lying but I think many women on here pretend like it’s not a huge issue despite many men having been made to feel bad from women about there height multiple times in there lives. It feels like women on here are actively trying to pretend/downplay how common this is (which then makes these men insecure, understandably) It’s dismissive of men’s experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:21 PM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:42 PM
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“Dumb kids”? People from a lower SES are not dumb at all. They don’t have the education of many upper class people but that doesn’t mean they have a low IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:49 AM
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Everyone has a right to be a judgmental asshole who reinforced toxic masculinity, doesn’t make it ethical or ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:04 AM
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I do. They just get defensive instead of bring introspective and acknowledging there bias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:02 PM
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Maybe, but I have never noticed. Robert Downey JR has been honest about wearing lifts and he never looks strange with them on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:59 AM
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Do you know how much art there is with the male form? A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:47 AM
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Being treated poorly by others? Do you really have to ask that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:46 AM
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That’s adorable that you think women don’t look at men as objects just like some men do Didn’t expect you to go full misandrist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:45 AM
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And if women find that unattractive they should examine there own toxic bias about what a man “should” be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:36 AM
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So should women. It’s that easy right? Just do it and don’t complain. Oh wait, that only applies to men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:30 AM
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I have seen several men who wear lifts and you would never know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:26 AM
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Funny, it’s pointless when men are comparing themselves to women but my fellow feminists have no problem constantly comparing how men have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:24 AM
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Which sure makes these women look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:22 AM
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Ever wonder why women don’t find men attractive who wear makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:21 AM
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So you don’t care about what anyone in the whole world thinks about you at all, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:14 AM
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Your friends do sound kind of awful. Are they young? Why else be so hurtful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:04 AM
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Yep. Teenagers and many twenty- somethings do this . Both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:02 AM
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Yeah. The truth is both men and women have a threshold for looks. There is some wiggle but generally it’s like the GRE; you aren’t getting into graduate school without it. It doesn’t matter how much volunteering, how much research, how good of grades, etc. you HAVE to take the GRE (for many programs) So, just like that, it doesn’t matter how considerate, how much chemistry, hoe confident, how funny; etc you are if you don’t meet the other persons threshold. It’s not really anyone’s fault. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:00 AM
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This is just world thinking. Good looking people are confident because they are good looking, not the other way around. I know a ton of confident men who don’t get hit on as much as my two really good looking friends, neither of whom are very confident. I think you just don’t want to accept how important looks are for both sexes. It’s easier to believe those who aren’t successful are doing something wrong. It’s actually a very right wing “those who deserve to be rich earned it” mentality Do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:53 AM
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Op is bringing up how even my fellow feminists are reinforcing toxic norms for men. I don’t see for bringing that topic up is toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:36 AM
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But you’re not just doing that. When it’s brought up men are victims of violence you just say “by other men” and that’s it. Which implies that since it’s other men it’s not as bad because...?. If both men and women are victims of the patriarchy then why have the rebuttal you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:34 AM
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Yes, I know a ton of feminists (I am one) who want and pursue traditionally gendered men while railing against gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:25 PM
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Huh. I always hear how it’s not men is the patriarchy to blame; which conditions everyone. But because men get attacked more but because it’s by other men, it what? Doesn’t count? Doesn’t deserve consideration or empathy? Men are a hive mind and since other men hurt them it’s still kind of there own fault, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:23 PM
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Funny how you think women aren’t reinforcing the shitty gender norms for men just as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:20 PM
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Oof. It’s amazing how gender conforming this was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:18 PM
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Funny, do you same the same to women? Or are you far more empathetic to societal pressures on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:17 PM
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Damn, you got put in your place and are too stupid to see it. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:14 PM
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Another edge lord lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:13 PM
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You think men didn’t push snd help women to get rights? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:10 PM
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It’s adorable you think men have it easy. You wouldn’t last a week as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:09 PM
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You sound young
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:08 PM
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See a therapist. Learn how empathy works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:08 PM
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You think men didn’t play a HUGE role in getting women the right to vote? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:07 PM
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Your like that person who thinks saying “no offense” before saying something super offensive makes it all ok. You have no idea what it’s like to be a man so stop acting like it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:06 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:19 AM
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You sound like right wingers talking about poor people. “It’s really there own fault and if they just tried it would be fine!” I get that that is emotionally easier; this way you don’t have to have any empathy. I am in my 30’s. EVERY man I know dresses well has a good haircut and good hygiene. That includes both friends and men at my office. Despite this, I know several men who struggle to even get a first date. (And it’s even worse on OLD) Now, you could actually acknowledge there pain and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:14 AM
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Uh, so what? Am I missing something? We are just talking about women’s taste, not JUST young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:47 AM
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And as we know, Older women don’t count as real women....wait, what? I don’t know how you saying they are women over 30 is a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:44 AM
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Define “less dangerous”? Certainly men on average a bit stronger but do you mean emotionally and intellectually too?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:53 AM
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Does it? Have any research to back up that this is as common as you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:20 AM
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In my professional experience no one will take advice seriously if they don’t believe you understand and empathize with these issues first. They need to believe you understand before taking you seriously (which it totally reasonable). It’s a stepping stone to helping the problem you can’t skip. And, ya know, you could just do it to understand and be compassionate because it’s the right thing to do and they are humans with feelings...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:18 AM
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So do you think women are just better then men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:20 AM
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Online dating is close to 50 percent and it leads to real people going on real dates. How is that not “real life”? Lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:08 AM
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That’s not really men’s fault. Why must it be someone’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:04 AM
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This is such just world fallacy thinking. Is it possible it’s NO ONE’S fault? That many bellow average men are trying and since they are ugly they don’t do well? Why much you blame men, that it’s there own fault? It’s such “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” right wing thinking. My guess though is you fo it so you don’t have to have any empathy for men. When women have dating issues they get compassion and dating buy do you gender roles men dont deserve that same treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:04 AM
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Lololol. It makes it HIGHLY more likely it’s true then not and you know it. Go ahead, give out tour address and phone number since apparently it requires no trust and doesn’t mean anything. Lol Oh, what was that? You don’t do it? But why? It doesn’t mean anything, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:28 PM
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I did. Has two long term relationships with partners who almost never wore make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:26 PM
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Wow, don’t trip over yourself validating and empathizing with those men. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:25 PM
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Have you ever been introspective yourself? Your first instinct seems to be to give advice. Perhaps That advice is more for you (to feel like your helping). maybe some people are ugly and they have done all they can do and are still not getting many matches or the few they get they aren’t attracted too. Now, consider just instead of giving advice without thinking, you just be empathetic and acknowledge the world isn’t just; some people are screwed and validating and acknowledging them would be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:23 PM
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Or you could be ugly? Why is that always danced around?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:15 PM
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Oh, I was thinking, ya know, being empathetic to men’s dating issues. I know so many men who are not some dirty teenagers. They dress well, have a nice job, good photos, good hygiene, go to the gym. Despite all that, they get almost no likes on dating apps (which is half of all dating so let’s not pretend it’s some niche thing) Do you know what men are looking for often when they vent about this? Compassion, empathy, etc. not harsh, cold comments about how they must be doing something wrong; tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:12 PM
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Huh, maybe you should tell my fellow progressives that. All I here is how the men must be doing something wrong and if they only did x, y, z, etc it would all work out. It’s ironically, a very “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” right wing type logic. But only applied to men’s dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:05 PM
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lol This is why empathy is important. Your not seeing it from men’s view. Do you know WHY men swipe right all the time? They certainly didn’t just for load the app for the first time and swipe right on everyone. They started the same way women start: being discerning. They want a good match just like you. But do you know what becomes apparent quickly? NONE of the women who they like in the bios are matching with them. After this goes on for hundreds/thousands of swipes it gets depressing and dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:02 PM
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Guess you were wrong about those stats lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:41 PM
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“They get fewer matches” Yes. They certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:38 PM
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You poor baby. All those options. It must be so difficult for you. You sound like a millionaire who has to sift threw all the sports cars they want and are “struggling” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:36 PM
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And if you’re fit and dress well and still aren’t getting matches? People have such a hard time with just sitting in negative reality. We need to be honest, your fucked if your in that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:35 PM
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I love how you leave I’ve sentence for your “if” when it’s the bedrock of why it’s so much harder for men. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:33 PM
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Ah yes, women could never be shallow. ALL these people he matched with are part of a conspiracy lol. I guess those friends thst meet women on old are fembots. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:27 PM
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This is adorable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:24 PM
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It only works that way? Bullshit. I’d people give you there address it isn’t bullshit. You just keep moving back the proof because it proves you wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:24 PM
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Lol. Whatever you need to tell yourself. These completely different women each day are all cat fishing? You know that’s far fetched but aren’t willing to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:22 PM
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Lol. He can’t meet that’s the whole point. Woops, there goes your point. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:20 PM
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Yep. Would love for those on here to try and explain that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:18 PM
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And the men who do do those things and still don’t get matches? Are they to blame still?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:13 PM
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You mean “lie” about what they look like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:10 PM
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Why am I not supposed you turned this into a just world l, pull yourself up by your bootstraps conservative type argument. “Looks don’t matter that much, men just need to get better at taking pictures and everything will be solved!” Lolololololol!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:10 PM
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It doesn’t help thst so many supposedly progressive women have outright said an reacted with disgust at men being together. Doesn’t exactly make me and a lot of men feel ok with our feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:40 PM
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It’s not a self report. They are actually tracking arousal threw medical equipment. There is no lying possible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:38 PM
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There is actually quite a bit of passionate straight porn with men building up to the moment before sex. Your right that it’s not the majority, but it is nice to see and I agree some sensuality and buildup is much sexier
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:35 PM
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Don’t really understand human psychology I see...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:23 AM
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Yep, sexist indeed. I love how you compare violent penetration to what we were all talking about, which was touching someone. I guess with your logic then if I women gets pinched on the butt by a man it’s “oh sweetheart, how will you cope?” in a sarcastic tone, right? Right? Cause that would be the equivalent scenario. But let me guess, you have a lot more empathy for a women who gets there butt touched randomly. Your a hypocrite and a misandrist. And benevolently sexist to boot. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:10 AM
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You don’t sympathize at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:10 PM
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Are you kidding? Women get SO MUCH sympathy and when men bring up there issues they are told there dating issues must be there own fault, they need to man up, or they must be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:09 PM
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As opposed to the women on this board who can’t empathize with men for a second and think they are just whining. And you want understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:06 PM
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So what’s worse. Most are bad options but a couple are good or having literally zero options? How can you debate this with a straight face?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:54 PM
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But it’s still better then no options
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:53 PM
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I would bet good money you are a teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:47 PM
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You think expressing interest in casual sex is mutually exclusive to wanting a relationship? Lolololololololol!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:46 PM
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You sound young or watch too many movies. MANY men want relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:44 PM
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Right? Lol “You just don’t understand the burden of having too much wealth like I do!” Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:42 PM
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Grow up. I know it’s way to blame men for everything so you don’t have to feel an ounce of empathy, but that doesn’t make it reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:56 PM
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Um, just based on math. Millennials entered to the work force in the late 90’s-the early 2010’s...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:18 PM
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You are a walking 80’s caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:12 PM
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Op is communicating his feelings and you are essentially telling him to “man up” and HE is the one who needs to grow up? Lolololol!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:20 AM
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It’s adorable you think it’s any different then it’s ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:32 PM
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Ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:31 PM
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“Lover of chads” ???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:30 PM
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Lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:29 PM
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Oh, well if people in this sub said it it must be true lol Who doesn’t know better then a bunch of teen and twenty somethings with no background in this? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:27 PM
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Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:26 PM
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Ah yes, everyone on only fans are drug addicted prostitutes lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:26 PM
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Oof. Agreed until that gross last sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:25 PM
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This is a very “kids these days!” Attitude that ignores history. There has ALWAYS been rampant use of prostitution and similar things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:23 PM
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It’s just benevolent sexism in her part. Even though she thinks she is being a good feminist she is a actually reinforcing the infantilization of women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:22 PM
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Ah yes, as opposed to the black market of prostitution, no issues there.../s Legalizing HELPS protect women in engage in this a lot more then keeping it illegal. See drugs for an obvious example
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:20 PM
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Who are you referring too? Huh? There is a lot i ethical porn out there and it’s important to seek it out so no to propagate those who are taken advantage of. I very much care. Just like I care about men. Your attitude is so problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:17 PM
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Ugh. Stop working with these people if you feel this way. It’s toxic nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:13 PM
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How empathetic of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:11 PM
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Ugh, I need a drink. That fact that this happens to so many men is so melancholic; and to make matters worse, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:08 PM
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That’s a pretty simplistic and judgmental interpretation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:03 PM
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Do I need a hug because you can’t understand basic psychology? Not the brightest bulb, I see...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:42 PM
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Are they shocked? Where? Seems like they are just understandably sad, ya know, like a human being would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:40 PM
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Yet women constantly tell men who are unsuccessful that they should lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:03 PM
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You need to get out more
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:02 PM
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You really can’t figure that out? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:50 PM
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Your like an annoying asshole who thinks she is funnier then then she is. It’s a debate forum. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:47 PM
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The other poster was being polite snd just trying to engage in conversation, why be an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:42 PM
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Do they? The men i see in here are pretty honest about being low on the scale
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:39 PM
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“Didn’t have to work for it” How adorably just world fallacy of you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:56 AM
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She is FDS and has BPD, she definitely has problems lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:49 AM
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Having a conversation (debate really) and complaining are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:45 AM
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People can be felons for drug possession (in fact, it’s BY FAR the highest percentage of felons)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:43 AM
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He never said it was the second. Your arguing a straw man so you can demonize ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:42 AM
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You know it works yet so many of you complain you can’t find a man you want lol. Guess it doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:40 AM
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You know there are millions of felons right? You act like they are as rare as unicorns
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:39 AM
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Eh, people can Be felons for all kinds of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:37 AM
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You think men aren’t massively generalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:28 AM
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They are beautiful but are they interesting? Smart? Intelligence? Emotionally engaging? Your just assuming: hot and rich= high value for relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:25 AM
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It’s VERY strong for women too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:23 AM
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“You equal” Lolol. Why do I get the feeling you intellectually and emotionally are anything but special
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:20 AM
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Funny how when we encourage people to know there worth and not lose their standards we are always talking to women. We seem to have no problem telling men that they must be doing something wrong or need to lower their standards. Hmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:18 AM
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Sounds like a mature approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:14 AM
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You think more opportunities doesn’t equal higher chance of success? Do you know how economics work? Why do you think the rich are so privileged? There connections and cushion when they fail allows them more opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:36 PM
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Would he have the same level of success as his female counterpart though? That is the whole point of this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:34 PM
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It’s ironic you talk about fallacies because you seem to like the Just World one. I work in a professional environment, EVERY man I know personally and professionally dresses well and has good hygiene. I think there are a lot of young women who think every man who is unsuccessful must be a dirty teenage/20 something boy. I think you and these women tell yourself this because acknowledging the metric fuck ton of men who dress well, work out, have good hygiene, etc but still struggle to find much …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:32 PM
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Who would have guessed that validation and empathy would help men? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:17 PM
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They want to pretend your just naturally that way and are of course confident about it. Why bring up your feelings of how tough it was! Ugh, I have seen that with women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:37 PM
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The list is completely reasonable. The disconnect could be because i have noticed many men who cant even find a women that fits this unfortunately so for them this list is pie in the sky thinking, which is really too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:12 PM
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See, this is exactly the problem. I and many others have said nothing about men being owed sex. It was just about VALIDATING these men’s struggles; empathizing with them. Sometimes there is no solution but empathizing goes a long way. That fact that you immediately jumped to that these men are “whining” shows you don’t have empathy for these men. Also, if you are actually 35, that makes your decision even weirder. So, dating someone who is 39 is just crazy and you would never consider that? Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:56 AM
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Then don’t say anything. Why speak up at all if you have the option? Your argument he essentially “we all know we are lying but we are going to do a social dance where I gaslight you and you don’t feel heard or validated and I will then look good socially. Problem solved!” Is that really morally sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:11 AM
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Do you think men are going to tell you if they aren’t getting laid? I have seen FAR more men who can’t get laid then what your saying. But let’s say your right, 20. You know that’s a 1/5 of all men? That’s not some tiny amount that we should just not give a fuck about Are you young? 2-3 year rule seems very strange
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:07 AM
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Ironically, YOU are the one ignoring nuances and just assuming any man who is unsuccessful must have brought it on themselves and they just need to follow your advice and everything will be right as rain!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:35 AM
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The problem is, men often are told to settle and the opposite advice is given to do women (I.e. I can’t change who I am attracted to I won’t lower my standards!” Is what women are told and say). But men are supposed to lower there standards? How? How can you force yourself to be attracted to someone your not? And that’s really what the issue is, many men have no options (no one there attracted to is attracted to them) so I guess they are fucked. And I think we just need to acknowledge that inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:33 AM
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Lol. Blatantly lying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:32 AM
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Men also don’t have as close of relationships with others. Having a partner is often there only emotional connection. You might be fine just being alone forever, but I think if you knew what it was like as a man, you wouldn’t be so quick to say you would be fine without anyone ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:30 AM
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At least your honest. The amount of people who don’t want to openly admit this to ugly men, and would rather gaslight them, is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:28 AM
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I love how you think your relationship is some kind of universal truth. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:26 AM
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This is just world fallacy nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:23 AM
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But if you don’t have looks you never even get the date. You must see how that’s difficult for ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:21 AM
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But ugly guys who don’t meet your threshold have no chance no matter how good there personality. Looks are like the GRE; if you don’t take it you aren’t getting into many grad school programs no matter how impressive you grades, volunteer work, references, etc are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:19 AM
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How does one force themselves to be attracted to people they aren’t? Any time women’s attraction is brought up people instantly get defensive and way “you can’t help who you attracted to!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:06 AM
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Ignored the second part of the person you responding to I see...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:04 AM
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Shh!. That’s way too empathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:04 AM
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Ironically, a lot of people (perhaps you) fall for the just world fallacy with men. The idea that they MUST be doing something wrong or not trying hard enough; surely they would be getting interest otherwise...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:00 AM
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Do you think if you tried you hardest you wouldn’t get more options then the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:58 AM
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Benevolent sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:47 AM
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Oh wow, you think women don’t shit talk men in general. Unbelievably naive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:40 AM
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You don’t know how science works. What you meant to say is some research suggests that about women. It’s not a fact, that’s not how the scientific method works
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:38 AM
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People aren’t just “good and bad” you sound like a child with that type of thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:36 AM
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How would they know you are dick on tinder? If you have a nice bio and a good your best photo and your still not getting likes then what? Huh? I know you want to turn this into a just world fallacy so you can say women aren’t shallow at all, it MUST be because your a dick. But how would they know based on online dating? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:35 AM
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Uh, I have had several open relationships and I don’t really care that they slept with others since they were safe. How is porn the equivalent to sleeping with someone? In what universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:34 PM
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How did I demonstrate you’re obviously wrong opinion? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:17 AM
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Your right that patriarchy is SUPPOSED to not be just men, but even many of my fellow progressives don’t really believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:41 PM
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“Have balls” what does this mean specifically, east context?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:39 PM
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I think your projecting why YOU like the character. I agree with the other poster
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:24 PM
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Nothing hotter then racism, right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:19 PM
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Jesus, you sound like a prudish catholic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:33 AM
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I can’t wrap my head around how you think a partner can’t watch porn without....what exactly? What will happen? Is this just insecurity? That he is thinking of another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:20 AM
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Hmm, wonder why he wasn’t secure. Almost as if we raise men to only have value due what they provide... But your right, it’s a mystery. The important thing it to continue to not empathize with men (because women will empathize with how women are effected by societal standards, but men should just “be confident”. )...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:16 AM
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Not the best hearing...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:13 AM
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“Excluding 40% of the daring market” How convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:08 AM
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Online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:07 AM
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They don’t? Didn’t realize you talked to all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:06 AM
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Uh, blue collar workers can make a lot. Plumbers can easily pull in over 100 grand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:05 AM
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Jesus this is controlling. Guys can jerk off if they want to. I have had 3 long term relationships and jerking off and porn was so below anything my partners cared about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:52 AM
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Lol. This is adorably untrue. You have no idea how much anxiety get from the expectations society has on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:00 PM
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I would bet good money you don’t “watch” you mental health nearly as well as you think; as if it’s a car to be fixed. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:56 PM
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Lolol. Congratulations, you win The most uninformed, insensitive bullshit take of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:54 PM
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You just aren’t bright
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:52 PM
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Not the brightest bulb. It’s would hilarious if you ever expressed deep sadness about something that just happened and you friend frowns and just says “ugh, this is unattractive, I am leaving.” Relationships are obviously about everything going great all the time for you. Pampered I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:52 PM
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Really? Doesn’t seem obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:46 PM
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You sound like a sociopath who has no empathy for men I genuinely feel bad for any man in your life, considering you would just abandon them because you missed seeing a movie, ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:45 PM
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Oh fuck off Leave a relationship a soon as someone is depressed for loosing a parent. So empathetic... If this was the other way around you would think the man is a cruel pig for leaving his depressed girlfriend whose dad just died. I love how so many people think THEY are unconsciously uneffected by gender role expectations despite pointing out how much everyone else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:40 PM
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“A bit”???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:38 PM
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It what universe is dating harder for mentally ill women? As a man with severe mental illness I would love to know your thinking here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:38 PM
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I think you meant: it’s easier for them to find emotional support compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:34 PM
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Can they? Tell me more person who has solved the fucked up way we raise boys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:30 PM
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This was not shorn in replication, such is the back bone of research. There goes your attempt to make men look like the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:28 PM
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Are they? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:25 PM
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Hmm, maybe raising men to “man up” and figure it out in there own was a mistake...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:24 PM
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Jesus, grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:38 PM
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Including men’s choices, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:36 PM
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Isn’t that a bit presumptuous? An adult women can show skin unless she is misguided according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:35 PM
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Jesus, you sound like a religious nut
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:33 PM
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You are sounding very prudish
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:32 PM
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Depending on where you live you mean and if you don’t have to take care of others you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:21 AM
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It is. Educate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:20 AM
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Whst mskes you say confidence? Nothing he has said suggests confidence. It would be easier if it confidence for you though; it would fit you just world predetermination if the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:09 AM
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Tell me more person who is not a man about how much it effects men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:08 AM
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Would you? Pretty big claim. Lol. Try being a man who is out in that position because men are out in the position WAY more them women and I would bet good money more then you. Anyone can say they would be brave and “do the right thing”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:45 AM
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Is he wrong? Would you prefer it over a 5’1” guy? Not that we can trust you to be honest...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:30 PM
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It’s funny how you say “I didn’t start until I was 22” like 22 is waiting until your older lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:28 AM
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Says who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:54 PM
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So you are indirectly implying they those who are bigger should defend those who are smaller snd since on a practical level men are bigger then women generally, men should protect women (and that if you were a man you would protect women)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:51 PM
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Here is a news flash: if women had the power they would do all the same fucked up things done men do. How do you not realize that? Lol Who is a friendly misandrist? Lol. It’s like being a friendly racist. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:30 PM
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Why do you keep saying they are above the league of men here? If looks are just a small part and confidence matters more (as many many women like to bullshit) then how do you know none of these men are in the same league? Do you know they have bad personalities, bad jobs, untalented? Not smart?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 02:11 PM
0

If you were wanted by no one ever you would realize you are taking it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:11 AM
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It’s always better with someone you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:18 AM
11

Haha. A LOT of men have realized that by the time they are a young adults, and have indeed pretty much given up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:17 AM
3

Not with that attitude. I make sure every women I hook up with gets off. Communication is key!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:16 AM
9

Ah yes. Way to get one more dig in against men. “Those stupid suicidal men, why don’t they think be empathetic like women and do it in a less messy way” Not to mention, that’s your assumption why women don’t do it they way. You could easily make the argument they aren’t as serious about it as the men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 05:31 AM
-1

Totally equivalent. Physical touch and affection are important, and it’s important you feel wanted. That’s not the same as eating shit and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:20 AM
2

It’s classic conditioning. It only makes sense the way people are responding
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:17 AM
1

Depends on how desperate the man is. Women are more like an employer at a big company. They get to interview tons of men and be picky. And most importantly, even if they don’t get the one the want they can wait it out until they find another great option. Where men are the unemployed, who don’t have the luxury of waiting for the perfect job, they take what they can get and won’t ever get the job they really want. Women very much have the power in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:06 AM
1

You think fat men are ridiculed to a crazy degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:02 AM
0

I think the point of the op is that you might not say or comment to the person they are ugly, but it doesn’t mean you aren’t feeling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:01 AM
3

Lol. Too late for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:59 AM
2

Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:58 AM
2

The description of an ugly men you have is literally me. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:56 AM
2

Male brains? You need to get out more. Men and women are almost the exact same. Different cultural expectations but our biological thinking and feeling is pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:51 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:48 AM
3

They attempt it more with less lethal means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:47 AM
3

I have seen this but I actually have seen women do the same a lot on menslib. The conversation was all about men’s issues and they shoe horn how it effects women into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:46 AM
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This is adorably ignorant. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:41 AM
2

Imagine people calling u ugly and going “ew” to your face. Imagine this happening all throughout growing up and your completely undesired and you never get and physical contact. I will take being just a fuck buddy the way you describe it above what I described any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:40 AM
2

Ugh. How many ugly women do you see can’t do things to give it? Most ugly women are just obese. That can bring changed. A short average weight guy can dress well and have good hygiene but that’s it. No one will be attracted to them who weren’t already before
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:37 AM
2

At least they have the option. You just take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:35 AM
5

Oh wow, you think men and women’s value in society is based on the same traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:34 AM
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Oh that’s adorable, you actually think humans can be completely cut off from how others treat or view them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:32 AM
2

Exactly, so women caring about beauty standards they have been taught should just stop. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:31 AM
1

You seem to confuse trends with every single person. You pointing out exceptions does not make a trend not true. Your talking like a man saying “well this women was never cat called so I guess cat calling isn’t a real issue”. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:28 AM
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Is that what men do on here in general? Say they can’t get laid and are mad at women? Most posts aren’t men dating or implying that. YOU are making the assumption that it’s all or nothing. People on here do get dates and have relationships and still have complaints and issues; they want to bring up. And I get why it’s easier to say it’s all these men’s personal fault. We talk so much about society’s impact on women and how we should empathize while saying it’s all individual men’s fault and soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 03:25 AM
2

You are really handling the poorly. You are pretending your asking the original question in good faith when really you started this thread to make fun of and vent about incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:54 AM
1

It’s actually very similar to the people who bully; they are looking for and attach to that nervousness more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:49 AM
1

Jesus. You are an unempathetic asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:41 AM
3

Yeah, often times the actual sex can be a chore. I think a lot of men, understandably, have never been valued so just the idea that a women actually wants them is good enough. It’s important to feel valued
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:12 AM
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No, for relationship opportunities too. They can get there foot in the door where men can’t. But let’s pretend that isn’t true snd it’s just casual sex. At least that’s something. Ugly men don’t even get that fun (and more importantly, validation that they are wanted in some way)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:01 AM
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Ugly women still have FAR more options then ugly men. Not to mention, most of the so called “ugly” women people talk about are just massively overweight, which they can change. Most of the mediocre to ugly men I know don’t have options like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:53 AM
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Because they can’t get past the first step? Not to mention, If very few women will have you then who knows if you will be compatible with them but what other options do you have? Women have more options which hugely improves the chance of finding a compatible match.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:49 AM
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Really? Are you sure your not straw manning men? I don’t know know any men either think empathy and sympathy means sleeping with unattractive men. Even on here, I see that only about 5 percent of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:31 AM
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Statistically men are more likely to be attacked at night. Sexual assault is huge for men and any researcher will tell you it’s VASTLY underreported. We have FAR more dangerous jobs dying and mutulation). We go to war and actually fight. How dare you think men have it easy. You have no idea You would crumble if you were a man. Grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 06:05 AM
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Hey, I am not saying for women to not go after the people they are attracted to. I think RP and anything related is mostly garbage. I just think we need to be truly more compassionate to men. Not every man who is expressing his sadness over his loneliness blames women (I would say a huge amount fit the category) and just want to express there sadness and frustration. I think my fellow progressives have forgotten that. A lot of men need to be shown empathy for what they have gone through and we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:57 AM
1

Ah, cause men are a monolith so if you are attacked by other men because you deserve less sympathy because your “group” are the ones who did it, so it’s kind of your fault too! /s I’d you actually look up domestic abuse you will see the numbers show men are abused around the same amount. Do you know who has the highest DV rates? Lesbian women. Do you know who has the lowest? Gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:40 AM
1

Damn, I put you in your place several times and you have no response. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:36 AM
1

Your question is clearly related to mine even if you don’t have the reading comprehension to get it. Do women get a talking to as well? Sure. Do they also get empathy and support, way more then men? Yes. Unquestionably. I wonder which option gets people to change...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:05 AM
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You think women have high rate of murder from strangers they go on dates with? They don’t. In fact, men are more likely to be victims of attack but I and other bisexual and gay men dont act like we will be murdered when we talk about dating. The way you say it implies it’s common and your just an innocent victim when you know your not. And your other two issues men get just as much. You think women dont use men and treat us like shit? I don’t think most women know how it feels to be swiped right…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:01 AM
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I use to think that that when it first started but studies show 40% of dating is now done from OLD and it’s only growing. From what I have seen, OLD has just distilled the reality that always existed. I have had several female friends who, before online dating had several suitors and they would ask me advice on which is the best. They would weigh there options just like you do for any product. Men are no different. That’s how humans seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:52 AM
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Are you under the delusion that make friends who emotional abuse there female friends do t her heaps of sympathy and support? I think it’s amazing you think the “women are wonderful” effect isn’t real; that our society is much more sympathetic to women then men Research on crime rates shows the same crime (and controlling for other factors) committed by a women will garner FAR more sympathy from judges and juries then men who have done the same crime in the same circumstances (and give far harsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:48 AM
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Well it’s 40% of dating currently and only going up. So just cause you don’t know people doesn’t mean you can ignore such a big section. And it’s not only observable online, it just makes it less opaque. I have known plenty of women who are juggling several men and weighing there options in who is the best. Just like a product
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:43 AM
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Why do you think they have nothing to offer? Outside of looks (which you downplay for the same reason you accuse men off, because it makes you feel better to believe it) what are you basing these judgment on? I know several men who get very few dates but who are gentility empathetic, talented, and passionate about an interest they have. The truth is, these women didn’t bother to get to know them because they were ugly. We just need to be honest with ourselves about just how important that is; it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:17 PM
3

“Man up” Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:12 PM
3

That’s not how humans work. External conditioning effects us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:11 PM
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Yeah, like telling women they don’t need to look like Instagram and magazine models, that it’s unrealistic. Huh, but for some odd reason girls still fall into that trap, I thought we told them, right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:08 PM
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Jeez, I didn’t know friends couldn’t be emotionally abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:05 PM
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It’s amazing the difference in reaction abuse gets. If this was a woman people would be SO MUCH more empathetic and compassionate but since it’s a man you think it’s a math equation to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:04 PM
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Lol. That’s human nature. It’s pretension and women have just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:58 PM
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Women on OLD very much treat men as a marketplace. There is an economic reality to dating. Are you really denying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:54 PM
1

I have noticed what works best when someone is struggling is to tell them to “just get over it”. I can’t think of a single time it didn’t work. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:51 PM
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Both of them are “babies bitching” And who said some women on here are unempathetic to ugly people...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:49 PM
1

Just world fallacy I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:45 PM
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Yep. They will feel that “Real” nice guys never express sadness or frustration about there lack of success, they just continue being confident. Because the minute you express those feelings they assume you are an incel who thinks he is owed (despite men never saying or implying such) It’s actually a roundabout way to shut down men expressing themselves. Ironically, many of my fellow feminists will intellectually decry not letting men express themselves while in practice doing what I said above. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:42 PM
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You don’t know how humans work
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:54 PM
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Yep, it’s an ego boost and not compassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:51 PM
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Ironically, you aren’t using your brain much at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:48 PM
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The same way no one should have any empathy for the way the media influences women to be skinny, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:44 PM
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I actually think Cavill might be natural. He doesn’t actually carry that much muscle and always has a decent amount of fat on him. He certainly doesn’t look as aesthetic as Jackman, Hemsworth, Bale, or Chris Evans. I don’t disagree with your point overall but I don’t think it’s going to change. Most of these actors do not want to be ripped (peak natty) because it’s not there lifestyle (Bale and evans hate lifting weights) and different roles call for different looks. So I think steroids will alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:40 AM
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No, they would not put them to shame, not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:16 AM
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Not a real “complex”. Ironically, Napoleon himself was not short. The British said he was to start the narrative that he must be compensating for his height (because he was destroying there forces at the time lol). It was propaganda by the enemy at the time. It’s more of an insult to a man then actual psychological accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:58 AM
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Gross assumption about short men founded on no evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:35 PM
2

What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:34 PM
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It’s adorable that you think communication is some how a bad thing and for dorks. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:34 AM
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Lol. So your argument is “this thing has been for a happening for a long time so it must be right”. So I really need to bring up the flaws with this? Lol. You know racism has been a prominent belief by many cultures for more then 2000 years, is that good too now? The history of our species (about 200-400 thousand years) is FAR longer then 2000, which is nothing but a blip. The idea that that proof of anything is laughably ignorant. Psychologist and biologists don’t display your level of certaint…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:22 AM
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Typing fast. Women have far less and still have a sex drive Your whole point is now bunk. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:08 AM
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You have a narrow, silly view of what a man is and your confident about your arrogance and foolish beliefs. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:29 AM
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Sigh. I am not seeing any real empathy here. You say your empathetic to men the same way people say they care about Save The Wales organization; you care in an intellectual way, but the act of caring is never actually displayed. It’s cold. But, perhaps you are very empathetic in real life, I don’t know. I am seeing that you imply you know the “why” they aren’t getting anyone. I think you chose your words carefully,which is wise, but when you say you know the “why” are you implying there must be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 01:08 AM
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Lol. Because women (who have much more T) have no drive in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:49 AM
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Dude, grow up. You are so defensive about what a man is “supposed” to be. This is exactly what fragile masculinity is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:46 AM
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Don’t be an asshole. This person seems far more mature then you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:44 AM
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Did the person say something that was rude to you? Otherwise that second paragraph was pretty rude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:27 AM
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Those are all very true issues women face and men need to be more empathetic. But you can get a fwb that you trust, can’t you? I know several women who have a couple fwb but don’t do one night stands for the reasons you state. I think the point you keep missing is that for many men, NO women want them. They go on tinder and get no swipes, women in real life treat them as invisible while there good looking friends get respected so much more (Halo effect). When they were children, women looked at …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:23 AM
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Great post
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:06 AM
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Hmm. I don’t think you understand what men want either. Most men treat sex as a bit of fun, that’s it. They want a serious relationship. Wanting to have fun and wanting a serious relationship is not an either/or. Our Puritanical society sure has made us think it is though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:21 AM
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So you argument is : “this cultural practice is good cause it’s been happening a long time!” You don’t see how shaky that logic is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:15 AM
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Hmm. So you can go up to any women you want “have” her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:14 AM
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I don’t think you can prove what’s “normal”. That’s all subjective. Second, I know almost no men who don’t want to settle down. Why are you acting like men in general don’t want relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:12 AM
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I don’t know who your referring too. 98% of men I know have jobs, have good hygiene, and a good friends and family. This idea that it’s sone unicorn to find this is a bizarre thing I hear from some women Maybe it’s the type of people you are around? Also, “good looking” outside of hygiene and dressing how YOU think they should look, there is nothing men can do about that. The only issue I see is that these men just must not be good looking enough for you because all the other requirements you sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:06 AM
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Ha Well, you only need to win the lottery once, as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:04 AM
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Yeah, there is definitely lots of lying which not only doesn’t help, it builds up more issues. It’s a short term solution to avoid discomfort that makes things worse in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:55 AM
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This doesn’t take into account how popular OLD is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:44 PM
2

Lol, what a hard life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:14 AM
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Doesn’t matter. Attractive people get treated better regardless of how they think if themselves. It’s like when rich people say they are middle class (surveys show this is very common). They have no idea what it’s like to actually be middle class, just cause they don’t understand there privilege doesn’t mean it’s not there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:13 AM
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Lolol. Women don’t have to be confident. Men don’t give a shit. Of course your roommate got laid. I think you take men for granted so much you are not living in reality. Men want sex and they will lower there standards a lot to get it. Every man who I have ever known has said that if they want to get laid they will lower their standards. When we talk about confidence it’s for men because women don’t need it. You really don’t see this? This is as obvious as the sky is blue. Lol The other guy is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:06 AM
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Yep. But women think it’s the opposite. Lol because if they admit it’s looks not confidence that matter then they think it makes them look shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:02 AM
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And one side clearly has it better then the other
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 07:00 AM
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I think this is reductive. People TOLERATE ugly men but no one wants to be with them. This idea that ugly men all must just have bad personalities and looks don’t matter is a bit just world fallacy. I know several men who dress well, have good jobs and everyone, man and women friends say he is very empathetic. But he has a very hard time getting a date
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 01:26 AM
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No idea? Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:47 AM
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So very empathetic of you toward men...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:44 AM
1

Why would they look down on sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:44 AM
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So to be clear, women’s mindsets being influenced by systemic misogyny are just innocent victims but the men influenced by that very same society are what exactly? Feel like we are inching closer to benevolent sexism, and frankly, having no empathy for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:34 AM
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Because they are humans and want to be wanted. But no one cares about ugly men. That’s just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:30 AM
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I know it’s hard to believe but pretty women have it the easiest out of anyone. I know you don’t want to admit men could have it harder in any area of life and are just pampered babies, but men do have some things harder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:10 AM
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Half of all dating is done on OLD now. It’s not some small niche to ignore Pretty women DEFINITELY have it the easiest
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:54 PM
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Research shows porn doesn’t CAUSE ed, just that there is a correlation with extreme users. I don’t think a mild amount of porn usage would cause ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:35 AM
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Meet better men. None of the friends I know do that. If they can’t get laid they just realize they aren’t worth much and do drugs to avoid those feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:39 PM
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Oh, so you think people are just born with these problems, that they were never treated poorly. Sounds accurate /s Manning up is toxic masculinity. It’s telling men to shove there feelings down. Yes, there are in fact victims and you should be able to talk about how things have effected you. That’s what healthy people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:31 PM
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I feel like you ignored my point about how important the rest has saying having a support system is the number one thing that is good for people’s mental health. I think your fooling yourself if you think you could be happy in love with no friends, family, relationship, etc. I don’t know one person who is happy and doesn’t have support (big difference between taking the load on fully for another person vs being supportive in a healthy manner). And you didn’t address the other things I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:27 PM
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This is untrue. A lot of these men TRIED to initiate when they were young and were told they were gross or laughed at by women. At best, when they got older any time they initiate they get turned down Why feel like your trash; like your nothing? I am happy these men have another outlet, one that doesn’t remind them how worthless they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:20 PM
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Your right about one. Uh, two the guy is being reasonable and open to suggestions and people are saying he is blaming his wife and is his own fault. I am not seeing empathy there. The third one is nice but I feel like it’s not a good representation of what I am talking about. The guy doesn’t really show any emotion. He doesn’t express how he is frustrated or sad or confused about women. I have noticed getting emotional is the quickest way to get icy uncaring responses from women (ironic, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:12 PM
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I see it ALL THE TIME. Seriously, search on Reddit, almost every time a man vents about sexual frustration people immediately jump to “your not entitled to women!” (Even though in the msny cases I am talking about the man didn’t say or even hint at the idea that he is owed. These people just knee jerk react to the idea that a man is sexually frustrated =incel). When women talk about being sexually frustrated, they get empathy. I have heard so many times somebody call men venting “whiners”. AT BE…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:37 AM
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I think it’s easy to say that if you have never been able to be close to anyone (no partner, can’t be close to other men in our society, unfortunately). I hear the “happiness comes from within” saying a lot. It’s a nice comfy answer. Unfortunately, it’s not how humans work. Do you know what research has shown is the number one thing that helps people with there mental stability? A social support system. It was the number one thing I looked for on calls with suicidal people at my job. If they had…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:36 AM
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I think you miss spelled “man up” It’s clearly what your going for. And as we know, it’s advice that has worked for men...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:24 AM
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I will tell my developmentally delayed and anti social clients that their life experiences were wrong after all. You cured them; pat yourself on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 10:22 AM
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I think you need to meet more people. Things are always as simply as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:19 AM
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Suicide rate has always been high for men, so I guess sone didn’t survive. But who cares, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:00 AM
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As we know, Emotional health doesn’t matter. Thanks again for revealing how empathetic you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:58 AM
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But why? Why would they care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:29 AM
1

This is adorably naive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:26 AM
1

Your thinking of how people talk about women and benevolent sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:25 AM
2

The just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:24 AM
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Well, that’s what women of men, right? Men talking about there sexual frustration are just “whiners” and “losers” apparently. Talk about you feelings but when you do get told to bottle it up and be quiet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:19 AM
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Why would women in a relationship care if there SO is watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:17 AM
2

Ah yes, you need to become a prize to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:15 AM
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Things weren’t “fine”. Men were unhappy it’s just reported on. Our society doesn’t care to look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:15 AM
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Well too bad. Average or ugly men are unwanted and found an alternative. It’s not there job to stop watching porn just to get rejected more by women like they used to. Sorry these married women have to deal with a man who doesn’t want them but that’s how it is for most men there entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:08 AM
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I don’t see it changing anytime soon either. Women don’t want these men anyway and are probably fine with these men living in a hole
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:03 AM
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Seems like you enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:34 AM
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If you think those are two separate groups of men, you are ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:30 AM
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“Petulant child” Who said women weren’t empathetic to men on here..../s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:21 AM
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“...a painful rejection for women” Welcome to every average and ugly men’s lives. But is it now a problem because WOMEN are the ones who could be sexually frustrated? Now it’s something to empathize with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:19 AM
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I don’t know if it will be seen as a problem. Most of these women will be glad these ugly men aren’t hitting on them anymore. They could care less if they were dead, so the tech to make these men go away probably sounds great to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:15 AM
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If you have been on this earth for more then three decades and no luck, I think you have to accept that you are garbage I am done being on this earth. It’s too much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:02 PM
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I am just saying if you ugly you shouldn’t date someone your not attracted to (for both your sakes) but you then might not ever find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:46 AM
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Yep. Unfortunately there are people who won’t ever be able to be with someone they find attractive. We need to just be honest about this when raising kids. I guess all you can hope is that you find a conventionally unattractive person who likes you back, otherwise that’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:18 AM
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This is adorable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:41 AM
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Yep. Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:41 AM
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This might burst your bubble but there were/are A LOT of men activists who helped make this happen. And why wouldn’t there be? Systemic issues effect everyone and there responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:35 AM
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As we know, movements never change or get taken over by others. Nope, never happens.... Nice “gotcha” though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:31 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:28 AM
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Yep. Of course the other poster doesn’t respond to this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:24 AM
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It’s amazing, the amount of ugly men who “want to be given a chance” who are mocked going above there “level” is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:12 AM
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Are those better? Well, they don’t involve rape so, yes. But they still are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:23 AM
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Can you stop saying butthurt. It comes from prison rape jokes. Unless you find prison rape funny...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:14 AM
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Let me guess a member of anti feminist FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:12 AM
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You are making the argument of a sociopath. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:10 AM
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You are projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:09 AM
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Stop judging all men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:07 AM
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I it’s perfectly understandable for men to be sad and express that. That’s not entitlement but the amount of knee jerk reactions from people when men do this is staggering It would be like applying for a dream job, you don’t get it, you express feeling bad about not getting it, and people around you just saying “you aren’t owed the job!” And then walking off. And a lot of these same people are so much more empathetic to women’s loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:53 AM
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It’s adorable you think women aren’t the same way. It’s classic conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:47 AM
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You don’t think there is a massive amount of correlation in what people find attractive? That it’s all just random?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:31 AM
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The important thing is to continue not empathizing with them and just say that they are whining. That will definitely help /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:28 AM
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Fair. But I do hear just as many women bitch about how “I can’t find any good men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:23 AM
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Are you just trying to make people feel bad with that last line?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:22 AM
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Women are just as bullshitted and gullible as men. They are just fed with different shit. The amount of women who complain about not being able to be ultra skinny like they see in magazines and Instagram, and how it effected them growing up so much, and how they think they MUST be skinny to find love, is countless. It always seems obvious from the outside (the other sex, in this case) how silly it is to get wrapped up in this cultural brainwashing. So. It might be better to just have empathy for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:59 AM
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Well adjusted men don’t give a shit about N count. It’s insecure RP man babies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:50 AM
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Not a good sample to base men on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:47 AM
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Because women are privileged in there dating options but they won’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:24 AM
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Some of them. I was roommates with my friend and her boyfriend basically lived there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:54 PM
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There are certainly many who are discussing in bad faith, that’s true. But it’s important not to jump the gun because you might be making an enemy out of someone who really did just want to talk about there difficulties and not blame women; that they just needed help. But I get that it’s very hard with so many bad faith actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:06 PM
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Perhaps, I am just saying a lot if men I knew (and were reminded) that they were ugly and unlovable. Perhaps your brother didn’t experience this but many men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 11:59 AM
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Because men will NEVER be happy in that situation. That won’t ever work. And how convenient men need to make this monumental change where you get to keep on getting as much men as you want. You sound like a rich person hoping that we can just get poor people to be happy with having less so that you can continue to enjoy your wealth without having to hear about there pesky feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:28 AM
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Maybe he worried more then you think. I knew from kindergarten that I wasn’t attractive. Made me depressed my whole life. And I know quite a few men who eventually admit to that if you become close enough (because unfortunately, we must project confidence at all times to be likable)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:25 AM
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But hey, your a women so getting sex is easy. That must be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:20 AM
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Yeah, that way you can care even less about men’s feelings. If we can make them happy for being alone then you get to go on being happy and never have to hear about men’s issues
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:16 AM
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Trust me, men know from the very beginning how much we will be judged for our looks. We are keenly aware where we rank
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:17 PM
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I don’t know. I have been around a lot of women who have a good looking boyfriends who are the most boring simpletons in the group. These men offer NOTHING in the way of humor, passion, or intelligence, yet they are constantly getting women to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:10 PM
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I know your trying to be sympathetic, but there is nothing “silly” about being depressed about something you can’t change. Yes, spending too much time on it will do more harm then good, but it’s still always there, it’s ok to validate that and not imply men’s sadness is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:05 PM
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I am well aware. But there is nothing that sone have these men said that is remotely subtly or not misogynistic. The reader are simply being intellectually lazy and assuming motivation then going on the defensive. Ironically, having a bad faith attitude to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:20 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:36 PM
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Your right; it does. I personally see a lot of sympathy for women who were in subdivision relationships from my fellow progressives, while a lot more victim blaming for males that have experienced DV. And that’s really my problem: yeah, there are an abundance of uncaring asshole people out there, but when the people who should know better (progressive feminists) engage in this uncaring behavior, well, that is so much more depressing. I don’t think “tough advice” works. If people are hurting they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:38 PM
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Its work, but I could take the time to recreate conversations I have seen where the man is not even close to anything remotely misogynistic and still gets shit, and if not outright shit, get cold, unempathetic responses. I have noticed many people react not to what the person says, but to what they think think the persons real motivations are. Which is making assumptions and until the men actually says or implies something beyond venting frustration, I think it’s in bad faith to jump to conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:33 PM
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Yes, it’s still privilege. It’s funny you should mention assault, if you look at the numbers DV is pretty damn close (not to mention gay women have the highest record of DV and gay men have the lowest) The rest of your argument basically boils down to “our issues are more important so your issues don’t count” With that logic I suppose western should be quiet, women in the middle east have “real” problems (so how silly that logic is). Stop using the Poison The Well Fallacy, as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:11 AM
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Women shouldn’t settle. It’s not there responsibility, anyone who says that is being sexist and controlling (sadly, RP has a lot if that).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:05 AM
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Well, fair enough. As long as you are consistent. Research has shown that humans tend to be more empathetic to women (look at sentencing differences for the same crimes. Lots of studies have controlled for other factors snd found people are FAR more likely to have sympathy for the woman who has committed the same crime) I bring that up because I see a lot of men venting without saying or implying anything toxic and they get cold reactions, where as I see a lot of support for women venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:51 AM
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Having options is most definitely a privilege. The same way class gives you options, the same way money gives you options. You just don’t want to admit that you have privilege. Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:46 AM
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Men need to start valuing themselves more? Lolol. Its the men’s fault, if they just had the attitude that they are more valuable, reality would catch up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:40 AM
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Because people need to vent there frustrations sometimes. I don’t see what’s wrong with OP doing that. I have zero doubt you have done the same
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:39 AM
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I think you would be surprised how many entitled women there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:37 AM
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So when men vent you tell them they deserve better too, right? Cause all I see on here is when men vent women say “stop whining, it must be on you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:32 AM
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Your on FDS? Jesus, they sub is terribly unfeminist and misandrist. How do you not see what a toxic place that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:30 AM
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Huh, most of the geniuses we hear about are short men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:23 AM
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So women are privileged, you might say...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:22 AM
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I am sorry; but this is just not true. I have seen many times where an ugly guy expresses his sadness or frustration without even a hint of misogyny and the first response by the women around is to assume he is an Incel, and that he must feel entitled to sex, and that he is whining (the most empathetic term, as we all know/s) I have seen that in real dnd an on Reddit countless times. There is a knee jerk reaction that the guy must be doing something wrong and it’s his own fault. No one actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:17 AM
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I have. Hell, Henry Cavill talked about women groping him in public and making lewd comments
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:50 AM
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The point is, even if you do bad things and are a worse person then an ugly person, you are STILL given that benefit of the doubt and considered more attractive. It’s not just that looks matter, they matter WAY more then most are willing to admit. Then when called out, people often fall back on just world thinking; assuming it’s not that looks are the problem, it MUST be something else the ugly person is doing wrong (that way they can justify to themselves they aren’t shallow).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 12:19 AM
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No, not what I am talking about. More that you see no problem making character judgments about people if they wear “lower class” clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:08 AM
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Seems like you care a lot about being perceived in a “higher class”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:15 AM
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I don’t think even think OP is a real woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:38 AM
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Funny that “real love” that your talking about correlates so much with physical attraction levels. Lol Must just be coincidence... Checklist, consciously or not, is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:36 AM
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That’s a fair point. Men have systemic advantages. But I think if you switched bodies you would realize being a man if much more difficult then you think. It’s ok to be empathetic to both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:04 PM
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I don’t think you know how statistics works. Having a truly random sample that accounts for confounding factors is why statistics is such a powerful tool to generalize. 136 is plenty (as long as it can be replicated). I don’t know why people think a study needs thousands of participants to be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:17 PM
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It’s so interesting how women take for granted being wanted. how important it is to emotionally feel wanted, and how most average men don’t (yes, average, not basement dwelling neck beards. I know it’s easier to justify that if they are losers it’s completely there fault for there lack of success, but that’s not realistic). Speaking as a bi curious man, I get so much more attention from men and it really does make me feel good knowing I am desirable. With women, I am worthless and invisible. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:01 PM
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Pretty judgmental of the men here. You feel they must have nothing to bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:15 PM
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