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kongzilla/r/seduction28/12/11 06:27 PM
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Interesting feedback I can definitely tell this is going to be a numbers game deal.
/r/seduction06/10/13 08:17 PM
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Dude start your day game at a college campus, cafe, or bookstore. Girls there are usually more receptive
/r/seduction19/06/13 03:00 AM
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If they are already back at your place then ya it's a good Segway into f-closing. I have found that asking for shoulder rubs from women lets you gauge how attracted they are to you.
/r/seduction19/06/13 02:54 AM
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probably not
/r/seduction03/04/12 03:07 PM
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I agree with you with the one exception. The PUA scene has developed to a point where it's about being better at interacting with people in general not just women.
/r/seduction03/04/12 06:54 AM
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A little bit of a mini FR here but please bare with me here. I hadn't gone out since new years but this past weekend a few friends and I went out last night (saturday night that is). My intentions were pretty simple, A) Get trashed, B) Have a good time. Both were done, being at a nice bar I was in my element without trying to be. Basically, everyone I walked up to and started talking to was super receptive. It dawned on me that if you are having fun people will want you around because they to wa…
/r/seduction02/04/12 03:06 AM
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I think your asking what you should do if a girl flakes on you? It seams as though that's what she did to you. The best advice I can give you is to not fixate yourself on one person, (not to say you should be spinning plates) but if you only have one potential person to sarge then you are going to invest a lot of emotional energy, and time into that person. Which isn't very good because if they flake out on you, or upset you then it becomes a big deal. Just relax and take the night off. Next tim…
/r/seduction23/02/12 04:26 AM
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Your wording is very poor. Please elaborate on your situation.
/r/seduction23/02/12 04:02 AM
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My last LTR said this same shit to me a few times. The reality of the matter is that once you hang out with them you can get a better feel for them, if she gives all the IOIs then she is not being truthful with both you and herself. If she doesn't then oh well, on to the next one. I have a bit of a theory that I came up with after being with my last LTR we'll call her meghan (her name started with an m but was not meghan). So Meghan had a few serious boyfriends before me, but they were all prett…
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:21 AM
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Hey man you can do whatever you want. You should probably look outside the box and look at your situation. You are 31 she is 19 if you pursue a relationship with her how much of a relationship will it be? Unfortunately if you do get in a LTR with her it will feel like more of a casual F-buddy type thing or like baby sitting. On a side note i looked this up because it reminded me of your predicament.
/r/seduction21/02/12 01:23 AM
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Not an asshole thing at all, some people don't find sex or members of the opposite sex important. So might as well get what he doesn't want, and if there comes a time were he does want it then he'll let you know.
/r/seduction20/02/12 05:27 AM
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Do it, I've banged up plenty of my co-workers it does make for an awkward workplace after though
/r/seduction18/02/12 05:36 AM
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Listening to the right music always does it for me. I like listening to some notorious xx usually does the trick
/r/seduction18/02/12 02:30 AM
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Depends on the girl, If it's just a random girl that i'm only going to see for that night, or a few nights then i'm usually pretty carefree in that we go to dinner (going dutch) go get some wine (there's an awesome winery pretty close to my house they know me very well there) then go back to my place. If it's a girl I really like then I we usually go to art museums/exhibits, then grab some drinks after. Basically, it doesn't really matter what you do just as long as you make it clear you aren't …
/r/seduction18/02/12 02:18 AM
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Making friends is pretty simple especially in college. Next time you guys have a tournament or some sort of special event have a party after and invite the people you do this stuff with to go to it.
/r/seduction16/02/12 02:18 AM
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If your'e not doing Bjj and Wrestling at the moment then start to. That's my first bit of advice. As far as your predicament goes of not having many friends that can be solved fairly easily just get out more. Try picking up a few new hobbies, one of the best things about Universities is the fact that there is an organization for pretty much everything. I personally just started doing Yoga in the mornings three days a week and dude i've got to tell you not only is it a great way of staying in sha…
/r/seduction16/02/12 02:08 AM
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I'm going to do this
/r/seduction14/02/12 01:39 AM
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A report on one of the instances. You know dude, it could very well be that you've known these girls for a while and have just failed to move on them when they've been throwing you some hints. How long did you know the first one for before you went all fred flinstone on her?
/r/seduction12/02/12 04:15 AM
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Well sounds like a good problem. A couple of things can make this happen either you are a Cristiano Ronaldo look alike (pic added for sedditors in USA or unfamiliar with the beautiful game). Or you are starting to do a lot of the theory stuff without thinking about it. Either way congrats and keep it going. If you hit the point where your caveman technique hits a wall (which will probably happen sooner or later) then go back to the game. Also, lets get some field reports from you so we can more …
/r/seduction12/02/12 04:11 AM
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Grab her hips if she doesn't like it she will let you know, and then move on. If she does though, then game on
/r/seduction12/02/12 04:06 AM
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You tell her why would you do that? or who do you think i am? both are very alpha
/r/seduction12/02/12 04:03 AM
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Depends on the setting and the person. I personally have never been a big fan of clubs or sarging in clubs. If i'm in a cafe and see a cute girl I want to talk to I'll do one of two things. 1-walk up with my coffee, introduce myself "hi I noticed you were reading bla bla bla or I was looking at buying a new computer what do you think of bla bla (whatever she has out)." 2-I'll pull up the empty chair across from her, sit down and start talking. If its awkward then I'll leave if not then game on. …
/r/seduction11/02/12 04:20 AM
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Not very shy, pretty reserved most of the time but when I want to talk to someone I approach immediately
/r/seduction11/02/12 03:57 AM
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No, money is really not that important your brain is though. Talk to them, show them you are an intelligent person. Pretty much just sarge them
/r/seduction10/02/12 06:19 AM
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Don't pay for there shit. Why do you feel you have to pay for them is the question that must be asked.
/r/seduction10/02/12 06:11 AM
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No
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:53 AM
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One hour is still a bit much I would highly recommend 40 minutes wait time at the most
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:51 AM
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Clubbing isn't for everyone. A lot of people will tell you clubs are the best place to sarge and to a degree they are correct. However, I personally have never had a great deal of success in clubs. Daygaming on the other hand, well in the words of Will Ferrell and John C. Riley "Here to fuck shit up". My point being is that you should do what works for you. Become an expert on whatever you are already good. Plus your odds of contracting a venereal in a coffee shop compared to a night club are go…
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:18 AM
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This can happen for a couple of reasons. 1 you are steamrolling them into giving you the number. Usually when this happens its because your openers are awesome (dont change that) however, you rely a lot on shit you already have planned out. If this is the case you need to become more flexible with the things you talk about and build more interest in them. 2.They could be giving the digits as an easy escape are you getting the whole "are you on facebook"? alot? If so then this is the case. As for…
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:05 AM
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Indeed that's where I got the source from. You can find it in Approaching Women
/r/seduction07/01/12 06:10 PM
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No problem just clarifying
/r/seduction07/01/12 04:22 AM
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These are the general parameters of the routine obviously you make small talk with them
/r/seduction06/01/12 11:49 PM
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Same thing that happened when Mystery got a show on VH1 The Community is going to get flooded with imitation artists. Bar streets are going to be filled with loud looking guys dressed like its Carnival in Brazil, as for anyone who's been involved in the community for the past few years will be fine.
/r/seduction06/01/12 11:18 PM
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I respectfully disagree, I believe the two are mutually exclusive. You send horribly mixed signals when you are one moment acting like a narcissist, or sociopath and the next moment acting like a normal person.
/r/seduction06/01/12 10:41 PM
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So basically your advocating being a well mannered AMOG? Just to put this in frame.
/r/seduction06/01/12 10:32 PM
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How much stuff do you use that's canned vs. Spur of the moment ad lib stuff? Big thing is I started using NLP about a year ago in my sarging, found that it worked wonders. I moved from a number close ratio of about 40% to about 85% and my K close ratio was only about 15% jumped to around 65-70% after about a month of practice. I was wondering if any of you have any NLP techniques/exercises you have found work really well. I only know the cube, color test, and soul gazing well enough to use comfo…
/r/seduction06/01/12 10:29 PM
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Then you are a better man then I sir. Cheers
/r/seduction06/01/12 09:59 PM
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I totally agree with you on doing charitable work, I just think there is a huge difference between working in a soup kitchen and going to a bar. Wouldn't you agree?
/r/seduction06/01/12 09:22 PM
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Do you ever really go out with the intention of making someones day better though? No offense but really, if you do then you have one on me. There is a word for this though, it's called charity. If we are to go into the business of making people feel better, or for that the world better why don't we do some charitable work of consequence like raising money for Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, or volunteering somewhere. I don't mean to be a dick but at the end of the day people sar…
/r/seduction06/01/12 08:24 PM
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I agree with you on the whole being positive bit. Obviously no one is going to want to hang out with someone who is a dick. However, while it's fine to have great intentions and enrich women's lives with positive words and actions it must also never be forgotten that nature wins over nurture. Allow me to elaborate. You see recent studies have shown that "The Dark Triad" being pretty much everything you have argued against in your post to quote exactly. "The traits are the self-obsession of narci…
/r/seduction06/01/12 07:04 PM
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PM me i've been wanting to set some shit up like this for a while now.
/r/seduction06/01/12 06:18 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKKGtf37TEI verbatim
/r/seduction06/01/12 05:34 PM
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Why the fuck would you let a woman see your Reddit profile? Have you seen the shit we post on here, not just in seddit, but in wtf, videos, askreddit.
/r/seduction06/01/12 05:33 PM
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I said i'd stop being so attractive but I'm having a hard time wouldn't you agree.
/r/seduction06/01/12 06:38 AM
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I respectfully half disagree. If you wing it and go out and don't really have a solid routine then yes. The numbers what you are talking about is going to be very important. For example, you open 20 sets 10 blow you off immediately 5 show some interest 3 number close, 1.9 k-close and .1 f-close. However, what I have found works for me and maybe this is just me. Is canning your routine. What I mean is having your opener or several already down by memory. Literally verbatim, the reason being is so…
/r/seduction06/01/12 06:38 AM
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Dude, just relax man. I am going to explain the science behind the fear of rejection to you so you can understand how silly it is. To better understand the fear of rejection you have to think about humanity as a whole on a much smaller scale. You see, back several thousand years ago before the dawn of writing, reading, and pretty much all forms of technology basically before civilization our ancestors lived a very primitive life. In this life early humans existed acephalous which is to basically…
/r/seduction06/01/12 06:26 AM
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Look up some NLP
/r/seduction05/01/12 11:42 PM
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You don't hint at it. As a matter of fact that would be very bad to do because they will think that's the only reason you are hanging out with them. Allow me to elaborate, there are different types of friends you obviously have, A) Good friends people who are generally at the same intelligence level as you and have similar interests. Like my friends and I like to play soccer, drink, and hit the water pipe (hookah) at cafes. B) You have acquaintances, people that aren't really friends but that yo…
/r/seduction05/01/12 02:19 AM
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Common sense has a lot to do with it. If you are in a cafe and see a chick on a laptop smashing away at the keys and looks like she hasn't gotten any sleep in the past few days and your close to a university. Odds are your not going to get far with your approach. Aside from that, just change your regular game to a more daylight friendly sort. What I mean is don't physically escalate as quickly. If you can then good for you if not, really not a big deal. With that being said, it wouldn't be unexp…
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:56 AM
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2 things 1) Persistence over Resistance. This is a motto that you must follow. Basically be prepared to fail. I don't mean that in a bad way or in a malicious way but I mean that in all honesty. We all fail, it's part of being a man, you must fail in order to succeed and the more you fail the more you learn. Go out more, open random sets. Who gives a fuck if you fall flat on your face? Honesty, you could open 10 sets in a night and do bad in all of them. The reality of the matter is, you will pr…
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:30 AM
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This makes a lot of sense, MM is almost entirely based off of group dynamics, a lot of the stuff out there today is for one on one pickup. But to elaborate and please correct me if i'm wrong with what your saying Curveball. There is an idea that I think gets lost especially on Seddit that a girl has a "bitch shield" as a method of defense from unwanted advances. To elaborate on this I have repeatedly asked my female friends especially the more attractive ones why this is. The general answer is b…
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:18 AM
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It depends on the person, I like to incorporate the general format of the MM with a lot of the Cocky Funny stuff David D talks about, and some NLP stuff Ross Jefferies does. For example, 1)Open with a canned opener proceed with a few negs on desired target. 2)Once said canned opener is done move onto either my penny and dime magic trick, or palm reading. (with palm reading kino is built quicker but it's a double sided blade with this a lot of times people will be all over you buying you free dri…
/r/seduction04/01/12 04:03 AM
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For real, I did alarms for two years that shit gets rid of all AA by the end of the first summer. You do Magazines?
/r/seduction03/01/12 10:59 PM
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Come up with some canned shit, you can find openers all over the internet. Just be careful with the earlier mystery method openers they've been used for about a decade now and some people can catch on.
/r/seduction03/01/12 10:03 PM
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You always have to be careful when at a bar. A lot of times especially with 9's or 10's these girls will be talking to you for free drinks. For all intensive purposes we will call them liquor pimps. Feel the water out with them, if they actually want a conversation if so go for it. If she's in a small set no more then 3 then you have to be concerned. If its a large set 4 or more then see whats up. Even if they are liquor pimps who cares when they ask if you are going to buy them a drink just tel…
/r/seduction03/01/12 09:05 PM
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Yes, the Mystery Method works great. A word to the wise though, especially if you live in a bigger city. A lot of the routines especially the openers have been being used for about a decade now. So try it out and if some of the stuff doesn't work change it up a little bit.
/r/seduction03/01/12 08:54 PM
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The problem doesn't lie directly in you. It lies in the types of guys you are letting yourself go for. You have to look at relationships through a cold statistical lens. You can't go into a relationship wanting it to end like a Disney Movie because if you do your'e setting your heart up to be rofl stomped. By a cold statistical lens what I mean is the fact that a certain percentage of guys will dislike you because of the way you are. Not a big deal, but you have to realize this. A certain percen…
/r/seduction03/01/12 08:04 PM
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The Game-Neil Strauss (book) How to win friends and influence people-Dale Carnegie (book) Approaching Women-David DeAngelo (video series) Sexual Communication 2nd Edition-David DeAngelo(Audio Series)
/r/seduction03/01/12 06:06 AM
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I think anyone who puts that much emotional energy into one person has a serious case of oneitis, the reality of the matter is two things. 1)do what you want, take them if you want them. If not, not a big deal but you have to realize that this is not a big deal. Quit being beta, and start acting Alpha. 2)if you want to take someone out of a LTR that they are in its because you know this person and you like the relationship you have with them. You must understand though that the relationship you …
/r/seduction03/01/12 06:00 AM
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A lot of people here get confused with self help (inner game) stuff from actual old school routine training. Don't get me wrong you need both to be good at the game but the latter of the two actually show's tangible results relatively quickly. I think the problem with seddit is the fact that it's an open forum and that with almost 40K subscribed any jack ass can get on and ask some dumb ass question like "what to do if a girl tells me she wants to fuck" or on the flip side of the coin the same k…
/r/seduction03/01/12 05:53 AM
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If your plowing a chick and she says nice butt why the fuck would you say buy me a drink? I think by this point it's a little beyond that.
/r/seduction31/12/11 09:22 PM
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Soccer has a goalie doesn't mean you can't score. Same thing with this.
/r/seduction31/12/11 07:57 AM
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Brush yo teeth! Or use a straw with iced coffees
/r/seduction30/12/11 09:40 AM
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First off, one of the biggest misconceptions with PUAs is that they objectify women. This is a blanket statement, this would be like saying all Jews hate Arabs, or that all Americans are christian. Of course there will be some that do, and there will be others like myself that don't. You have to understand what the game is, is ultimately social dynamics and the way we navigate them. To give you some background on myself, I to grew up in a pretty religious family although I no longer consider mys…
/r/seduction30/12/11 09:37 AM
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Well If you want it to turn into something just say "I'm glad we're just friends" the discussion that will follow will make her chase you. Making her want to prove she is worth your affection. Or B) my favorite tell her to piss off
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:54 PM
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I had this same problem a couple years back when I first got into the game. What I found worked was one of a couple things. A)Become a much more observant person, whenever you walk into a room any room. Your friends room your office, a cafe, bar whatever look around seriously look from corner to corner top to bottom. Try to notice the craziest thing you can and bring it up to either the person who lives there if its a house or apartment. Or someone who works there. Perfect example would be like …
/r/seduction29/12/11 09:33 PM
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I'm not the best of looking guys. With that being said I'm not ugly but I have a very distinct face that people either like or hate. Game has helped me out a lot especially with AA, and has helped me go from just expecting a number close to expecting a K close or even an F close instead. There's a part in "The Game" where Neil Strauss says it's no longer survival of the fittest its the survival of the smoothest. Essentially that is what practicing game has done for me, made me smoother. Ultimate…
/r/seduction28/12/11 03:58 AM
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