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| -1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.My marriage fell apart in exact accordance with my neglecting to embody the Red Pill principles. k | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 04:56 PM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Speaking of which, what on earth makes you think that male sexuality is "celebrated"? Oof. I can't even. You're too far gone. Have fun swallowing the pill, just don't be surprised when everyone in your life hates you all of sudden. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 02:48 PM |
| 0 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.Oh my God for like the ten thousandth time: BP does not exist to convince you, it exists to mock you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 02:20 PM |
| 4 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.The very things you're trying to characterize as insignificant. :p That's not what I said. :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 02:03 AM |
| -1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.I didn't say they're not different, I said the notion that women are inherently better at "compartmentalizing" it is bullshit. They're better at compartmentalizing it because the conventional wisdom is that women who are open about their sexuality are sluts. Women don't hide it due to genetics, women hide it because society teaches them to do so. Maybe there is some part of it is that genetic, but we would have no way to know because it's so intertwined with social pressure. You show me few legi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 02:01 AM |
| 0 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer."I can respect that [clear and logical arguing] even if I disagree with any of the points they're making." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.That's pretty rich coming from a guy who just told me he will buy into a totally incorrect argument if it sounds logical to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 01:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Being dismissive of a request for a citation isn't a valid replacement for a citation. Nice try, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 01:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Women can compartmentalize their sexuality with much greater effectiveness than men. [citation needed] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.My exact quote was "I can respect that [clear and logical arguing] even if I disagree with any of the points they're making." You should probably reconsider that stance, because for centuries people made "clear and logical arguments" that light must need a medium to propagate. They called this medium the "luminiferous aether" and assumed it was spread throughout the entire universe. They were wrong. Very wrong. You're basically saying "I can respect an argument which is completely wrong if it so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:45 AM |
| 3 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.It's that berating a group for believing something is what I don't understand. Because what that group believes is worthy of being berated. But why waste your time and efforts doing that? Because TRP isn't harmless fun. Even though I think that bronies are ridiculous I don't go into the MLP subs and mock them because they aren't hurting anyone. Even though I am an atheist through and through I don't subscribe to /r/atheism because the "DAE LE SCIENCE" circlejerk doesn't appeal to me. But that's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.BP posters so often fit the stereotype of literally not understanding how to argue logically. Because we're not trying to argue logically. We are trying to mock redpillers. That's literally the very first thing it says in /r/thebluepill's sidebar and OP even quoted it in his post. So many emotional statements or "you're just wrong", whereas TRP posters argue well and present points clearly. Clarity ≠ correctness. Just because the stuff on TRP makes sense in your head doesn't make it correct. Jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:36 PM |
| 3 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.Since I don't know much about this, I guess all I can say is 'fair enough'. That's a good start. But still, it's the mockery of people for having ideas. So, you think that all ideas are created equal, then? Just because someone, somewhere, at some time thought it up, it automatically deserves respect? "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge" is the way you want to approach this? If I insisted that the moon is made of Monterey Jack, would you seriously entertain a debate with me? Because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:21 PM |
| 4 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.If BPers have actually sources for the "advocation of rape in TRP", can you please comment with its link? There is an album with sixty-four screenshots of despicable TRP posts right on the TBP sidebar. Isn't it just best to live and let live instead of going around and finding people to mock? The problem with TRP is that it takes a horribly toxic worldview—that women are subhuman—wraps it in a bunch of common sense self-improvement advice and uses that wrapper to justify blatant misogyny. It is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 10:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.I'm 26, and I've never met a man of any age that didn't value ONS's at least as much as LTR's who weren't hot athletes getting regular ONS's or the like. I'm about the same age you are and none of my male peers would place sex above companionship. In my experience the vast, vast majority of men grow out of that mindset sometime in their 20's. The ones who don't are, frankly, creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 10:34 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Here's the difference, though - if you're sexually attractive, your "platonic" male friends would probably bang you, all other considerations aside. There's no difference there at all. If you're a sexually attractive man, your "platonic" female friends would probably bang you, all other considerations aside. Women are people too. Women enjoy sex too. But society expects them to put up a facade of "purity," and so most of them don't discuss their sexual desires when in mixed company. I've dated g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 09:59 PM |
| 7 | If women are most attractive at age 20, explain the immense popularity of "MILF" porn.Putting aside for a moment whether this gross overgeneralization is true or not, I don't see how that invalidates his point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 06:02 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.I am persuasive, not manipulative. The difference is malicious intent—you have it, I don't. And I am completely conscious of when I am attempting to persuade someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Furthermore none of the men I know subscribe to this belief. It's a teenager's worldview. Adult, mature men have no problems being platonic friends with women. There are tons of women I am friends with but am not romantically attracted to. I remember thinking this between the ages of about 14 and 21, but the further I got into my twenties the less I believed it. Today? I believe it's patently false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:54 PM |
| 3 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menAh, I see. So you now realize you were wrong, so rather than admit it you call me a teenager. Fair enough, I know how important it is for you alphas to protect your fragile egos. And make sure you hit that downvote button for all of my posts, otherwise, how will those following along know that you're right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:05 PM |
| 2 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menTop lel. So let me get this straight. You quote this: I mean these guys hate everyone: women, non-"alpha" men, You say this: That's...what? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? And you're not contending that point. Is English your first language? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:57 PM |
| 3 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menI did. Did you even read the post you quoted? I mean these guys hate everyone: women, non-"alpha" men, LGBT folks, liberals, conservatives, uppity minorities... That's...what? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:52 PM |
| 4 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menlol seriously? You asked me where we "come up with this stuff," "this stuff" being the notion that TRPs hate non-"alpha" men. I provided you with a precise example of someone on TRP hating a non-"alpha" man. And somehow this doesn't counter any of the points you have contention with? k. Careful you don't spin that hamster wheel too fast. I mean, you realized you contradicted yourself, right? One post you say that TRPs don't hate non-"alpha" men, and the very next post you say that "The beta-hate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:47 PM |
| 4 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menK. You asked where we come up with this stuff. I gave you an answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:41 PM |
| 3 | I'm a feminist man who thinks that TRP actually gives good advice for heterosexual menThat's...what? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? TRP doxxed a "beta" just a few days ago. You don't dox out of love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?No. We are not nearly as petty as you all are. You assign far too much importance to yourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?I highly, highly doubt that anyone is "itching to dox Terpers." I find it much more likely that pretending people are "itching to dox Terpers" fits nicely into Terpers' victim complexes which is why they embrace it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?Yep. I'd keep that in mind the next time the PPD mods ask you to do them a favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?It's a good example of a Red Pill thinking, isn't it? Everything is black and white, no room for shades of grey. Since it's impossible for you to truly verify that the quotes can't be traced back to her, any checking you do is useless. Even though, you know, the vast majority of doxxing is in fact done through Google because most doxxers are script kiddies who don't know any better. And never mind that there is an entire subreddit dedicated to mocking people who post stupid bullshit on Facebook,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?but what is your opinion on academic Feminists changing the definition of words? I don't really have an opinion on it since I don't follow academic feminism. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?I have no way to verify this. Sure you do, you could just Google the quotes in question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 01:22 AM |
| 6 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?On PPD we have to use our own definitions to make our own decisions. Again, nobody has a problem with that. Ultimately, "doxing" is not a word that appears in reddit's rules. Neither does "brigading" but that doesn't mean the definition of the word within the context of reddit is somehow undefined. You are using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law. "Doxxing" has a very specific definition: "It's publicly exposing someone's real name or address on the Internet who has taken pain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 01:20 AM |
| 8 | Why are there no progress posts on TRP?Of course I hope you understand why it is we have stricter policies on PPD with regards to some issues. I don't think anyone has a problem with you having stricter policies than reddit does, the problem is that you are conflating reddit-wide rules with your own rules. What that user did to "Ilana" was harassment, not doxxing, and insisting it's "still doxxing but a different kind of doxxing" isn't helping your case. If you want to ban users for harassment, more power to ya. Just don't call it do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:46 PM |
| 3 | How to reconcile the existence of non-RPers?Maybe TRP is wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:35 PM |
| 0 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.From the article you just linked: Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a rhetorical device where adverse information about a target is pre-emptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say. Poisoning the well can be a special case of argumentum ad hominem, and the term was first used with this sense by John Henry Newman in his work Apologia Pro Vita Sua (1864). Poisoning the well can be a typ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/15 05:38 AM |
| 0 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.Again, English (languages are proper nouns and so they are capitalized) is my first language and there's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, so you can stop poisoning the well by calling my intelligence into question. I understand what you're saying. Better than you do, I suspect, which is why I also understand it's bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/15 01:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.You don't need me to poison that well, pal. You've all done an excellent job of that yourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.You are ascribing to me opinions that I do not hold. That's a dirty debate trick. Oh got it, so you're not a misogynist, you're just have flair indicating you're an endorsed contributor in a subreddit full of them. Silly me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.You believe it's bullshit, but you are thoroughly unable to present an argument to that effect. Extraordinary claims, my friend. You're the one who believes women are subhuman because reasons. I don't have to defend the default position, which is that women are human beings who deserve respect. ...but you seemed unaware of what a parable is. Again, I understand what you're saying, and the format you have chosen to say it in. It's just a monumentally stupid thing to say. I don't want to insult yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.English is my first language. I understand what you're saying. I also understand it's bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.Excuse me but how exactly do you imagine advice to be given?? You didn't give any advice. You posted a masturbatory fantasy about how awesome you are. you're going to appeal to the existence of men outside of TRP who don't exhibit these behaviors. It's a bit like if you're a scientologist (they don't believe in modern psychology) and I suggest to you that I could help someone with OCD and you say, "NOT EVERYONE HAS OCD!!!" Posting the same nonsense analogy twice doesn't mean its valid the second… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.I offered an example that was not common sense. Lol, no you didn't, you posted your fantasy about how awesome Red Pill guys are and how lame Blue Pill guys are. I am as beta as they come but your description of "Red pill guy" is exactly how I interact with women. "Don't allow another person to be the arbiter of your own happiness" is NOT something you have to be an "alpha" to understand is a good idea. And this is exactly what I am talking about. Everything discussed on The Red Pill falls into t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:08 PM |
| 3 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.Actually, in my opinion a lot of the bad behaviors that men fall into would be fixed by TRP philosophy. No, they would be fixed by common sense. Eat well. Work out. Be confident. TRP doesn't get to claim a monopoly on these extremely straightforward self-improvement concepts just because they're the only worthwhile parts of their philosophy. If you strip away the things that are common sense from TRP, all you're left with is hate and bitterness. the only thing you know about TRP are the offensiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 11:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.No useful advice can be gleaned from it to aid in dating. Then it's precisely as useful as any advice you'll find on /r/TheRedPill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 10:03 PM |
| 5 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.There's nothing unusual about my beliefs about sexuality. My stance is that women are people and deserve to be treated like people. And only a Red Piller would actually require a defense of that. The fact that you even need to see a defense of those beliefs only further proves my point about how terrible your worldview is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 09:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.Are you ever going to respond to this... I literally just did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 09:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.Are you ever going to get sick of that argument? Because it's the same argument that always gets made any time a Blue Pill provides evidence for how horrible you all really are: "You're just cherry picking." "Screenshots! They were doctored!" "Oh well not all red pills are like that," which my favorite given how much y'all chant AWALT. But the bottom line is that at any time I can go to /r/theredpill, click on the top post, read the top comment, and find something despicable. Case in point: A bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 09:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.this is a straw man. You have maintained your false interpretation, supported only by tautology, in order to construct it. Ah yes, the tried and true Red Pill battlecry. "Straw man! Straw man! Never mind that our mods had to tell us all to stop posting about beating women, it's a straw man!" Come on! You're not making any progress at all with your argument. I'm not expecting to. Your "philosophy" isn't even close to being internally consistent enough to earnestly argue against. You're bitter abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.No, the idea that you can write off 3.5 billion individuals as subhuman "hypergamous sluts" is absolutely toxic. Just because this kind of idea is seriously entertained on pro-misogyny, pro-rape corners of the internet does not mean it isn't toxic. Just the opposite, in fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 06:35 PM |
| 3 | CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind.A big problem with blue pillers is that they take everything so literally. And a big problem with red pillers is that they spew toxicity and then get their panties in a bunch when their toxicity is taken literally. It's not WALT, it's AWALT. That's a pretty strong modifier to toss on the front of that phrase, only to turn around and claim "well you're not supposed to take it literally." Maybe if you don't want to be taken literally when you say things like this, you should stop saying them with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/15 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Are there any 'normal' blue pill men who post here?The lack of self-awareness is real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/14 03:51 PM |
| 9 | Are there any 'normal' blue pill men who post here?It's amazing, isn't it? This person truly believes that the only men on Earth who respect women as people are "bisexuals, homosexuals, cuckolds, drug addicts, androgynous, asexuals, persons with aspergers, persons currently suffering from mental illnesses, or non-cis gendered individuals." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/14 09:20 PM |
| 8 | Are there any 'normal' blue pill men who post here?Hi. EDIT: ... blue pill men have a fringe ideology. wut? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/14 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Objectification is a term Feminists created to demonize male sexuality.Ah, the dreaded "no u" rebuttal. Compelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/14 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Objectification is a term Feminists created to demonize male sexuality.This isn't really something that can be CMV'd. Either you're emotionally mature enough to realize that objectifying others is wrong, or you aren't. Because, ultimately, it's very simple: objectifying someone removes their agency, removing someone's agency is dehumanizing, and being dehumanized feels awful. So at this point, there are two possibilities. Either you realize that you shouldn't willfully make others feel bad, or you have no problem with making others feel bad. And given that the latt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 03:35 PM |
| 4 | Objectification is a term Feminists created to demonize male sexuality.He's not here to have his view changed, he's here to write a wall of text to convince himself of his own life choices. This is a deeply, deeply insecure individual you're dealing with, here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 02:49 PM |
| 8 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?I'm sorry... this is just such a tangled web of circular logic, psychological projection and confirmation bias that there's really no point in even trying to rebut it. I mean seriously, I've never cheated on a girlfriend and no girlfriend I've ever had has cheated on me, and the fact that that's the conclusion you jumped to when I decided to omit superfluous details about my life says a lot more about you than it does about me. The best part is that you're going to interpret my withdrawal from t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 10:49 PM |
| 2 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?Haha no I'm not reading that wall of misogynistic Red Pill garbage. I mean, you're wrong in the very first sentence: Why is it that you can understand that a working relationship requires one person to be subordinate to the other, as in there is a boss and an employee, but you can't wrap your noggin around the idea that this is how a romantic relationship works as well? A working relationship doesn't require that at all, two coworkers who report to the same manager don't have a subordinate relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 09:53 PM |
| 8 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?People with traditional values that want lasting relationships built on trust and commitment. People who don't hold your nebulously defined and clearly subjective "traditional values" can also want these things. One is not a prerequisite for the other. I know in the pit of my stomach that I have no long term interest in loose women. Yes I am sure you do—that's called "insecurity." You reek of it. I mean for christ's sake, you put the fact that you're hetero in your flair. Can't risk internet str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 08:35 PM |
| 3 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?It's a traditional value. Traditional to who? Traditions are subjective. You use the word "traditional" as if it's some sort of trump card. Some people don't really care about "traditional values." I certainly don't. eyes of men. Hi, man here, if a woman wants to have lots of sex than more power to her, doesn't matter a whit to me as long as she is safe about it. Hell, I'd even say that I prefer my women to be sexually experienced, although I haven't really thought in those terms in a while sinc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 07:16 PM |
| 3 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?Rofl you have no idea what femininity is then. Wikipedia Traits traditionally cited as feminine include muliebrity, gentleness, empathy, and sensitivity, though traits associated with femininity vary depending on location and context, and are influenced by a variety of social and cultural factors. Dictionary.com having qualities traditionally ascribed to women, as sensitivity or gentleness. Merriam-Webster of, relating to, or suited to women or girls The Free Dictionary Effeminate; womanish. Urb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 07:10 PM |
| 3 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?I mean, of course it is? You're not going to find it in an encyclopedia, and everyone you ask is going to have a different opinion on the topic. It's an opinion, not a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 07:01 PM |
| 6 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?Submissiveness is part of femininity. Again—red pill maxim. Not inherently true. There's a difference between standing up to you when you're wrong and being partner who cares about not letting you make mistakes. And...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 05:15 PM |
| 10 | BP, why shouldn't I go RP?Most women are sluts today, and there's no social repercussions for it anymore. The idea that there should be social repercussions for women who choose to be "sluts" is a red pill maxim. It's not inherently true. No guy honestly wants a woman who thinks and behaves like a fellow man. He wants a feminine submissive woman. I have zero interest in a submissive woman. Feminine sure, submissive no. I've had relationships with some before. I get bored very quickly. The only long term relationships I'v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 04:56 PM |
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