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It was off of the CDC domestic violence survey in 2015 or something. It made the rounds and was a pretty well known stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:30 PM
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Fair enough, it's been a while since I read this stuff but it makes a lot of sense that people would lie about the cheating part. Using stats to choose a future partner is kinda wacky either way, since individuals are gonna vary so much in a demographic of literally millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:16 PM
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States is a bit deceptive. Red counties tend to be better on marriage than blue counties do, and also on nonmarital childbearing. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/28/no-republicans-arent-hypocrites-on-family-values-215873/ "Indeed, when we look not at states but at counties in the United States, we see that counties that lean Republican across the country as a whole have more marriage, less nonmarital childbearing, and more family stability than counties that lean Democratic." Edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:16 PM
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According to Google, men are more likely to be overweight but less likely to be morbidly obese than women. Men's BMI is like 0.1 higher but given that men have much more muscle and bone density than women on average, a 0.1 difference likely means women have higher body fat overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:20 PM
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A socialist is not considered "moderate" in most of the sane world. Again, maybe on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:39 PM
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No, he's not. Maybe on Reddit, not in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:29 PM
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The people on that sub are literally Marxists, and probably consider Bernie to be a moderate leftie. I don't know how you define far left but that is generally going to be considered far left in every country in the world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:53 PM
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You have it backwards. They are literally Marxists who just think a lot of the woke movement is cringe. That's pretty far left. The "American definition" of far left would involve them being on board with wokeness, so they're arguably less left by the American definition, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:52 PM
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Women outperforming men = they're more intelligent Men outperforming women = more work to be done for equality. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:32 PM
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Do male dogs give the kind of paternal investment that male humans do? If not then it makes sense that virginity doesn't matter as much to them. Even if a female dog they mated with has puppies, and the puppies might actually be from another male dog, it's not big deal because it's not like either dog is wasting a bunch of time and resources raising those puppies anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:41 PM
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Sure, just keep deflecting the point. That's really all you have left to do anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:05 AM
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No, you explicitly asked "how is that feminists fault" on multiple of your points. I don't know if you suffer from short term memory loss, but do try rereading your own comment if you do. And feminists have done more than enough to desrve the blame they get. You can't talk about men's issues without discussing feminists because they've worsened or outright caused a good number of the issues, all while pretending to care about gender equality. If you're incapable of even examining your own moveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:12 AM
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A useless response but that shouldn't surprise me given how little you understand the points you're complaining about. You brought up those points saying "how exactly is this stuff feminist's fault?" And then when I explain you proceed to complain about me blaming feminists for this stuff. Like yes, no shit, that was the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:55 AM
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Mary Koss - has a deplorable view of how men can be raped. How is this attributable to feminists? She's a feminist and her view has bled into how research is carried out, such as how the CDC does not acknowledge made to penetrate crimes as rape. hey, this one actually is attributable to feminists, but I'm not sure how some shitty feminists doing some shitty things in the 80s translates to men's issues being caused by feminists. The lack of female on male domestic violence being taken seriously i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:17 PM
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Read her flair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:18 PM
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Rates are declining even in Scandinavian societies by the way, which tend to have cheap/free colleges and healthcare. For all Reddit likes to use declining fertility as a talking point to push left wing economic policy, it only works to an extent. Fewer work hours might help a bit in the case of overworked nations like Korea or Japan, but even then, it won't push rates to replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:48 PM
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Fair enough. I was just disagreeing with the idea in your original comment that if a woman who hates men likes your son, she probably doesn't really hate men. If you can acknowledge that it's perfectly possible for someone to do that, recommend your child against dating them, and encourage them to look out for abuse regardless of gender, then there's no problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:38 PM
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Few people hate every single person of the opposite gender, just like plenty of racists have black friends. That still doesn't mean that person isn't toxic, or that they're a healthy person for your child to marry. Again switching the genders, if your daughter was marrying a hardcore red piller guy who got along great with her specifically, does that mean he isn't misogynistic and you won't have any issues with him? Edit: And this is a hypothetical, much like your son liking a misandrist, so ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:22 PM
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But if she wants to marry my son, then does she really hate men? Are you suggesting that if you want to marry someone of the opposite gender, you can't possibly hate that gender? So switching this around, there's no such thing as a misogynistic, married man?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:37 PM
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He did that for a charity. He's really not like a hard-core wokist, believe me when I say I hate those types too. He strongly defended Rittenhouse against wokies for example, and has had a lot of nuanced discussion with red pillers and conservatives on his stream. He's too open to opposing viewpoints to be a wokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 12:08 AM
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Yes. Just a big difference between a cuck and an open relationship where the dude fucks around more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:42 PM
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https://youtu.be/nHJgz99FU9s He fucks around more than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:27 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of destiny but I'm pretty sure he sleeps around more than she does. They had a big argument on their stream recently because they have a rule that neither of them is allowed to sleep with someone else unless the other person is doing the same, but Destiny felt that his wife takes too long to find a partner and slept with a bunch of other women anyways. Edit source: https://youtu.be/nHJgz99FU9s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:23 PM
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Yeah I've argued with her on this topic before and she kept going in circles. Eventually she started complaining about her own father who was never there for her and brought race into it. It's pretty obvious she's arguing more from emotion and personal experience than any level of logic. Don't waste time trying to convince her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:58 PM
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>You're not wrong, but it's because men don't get pregnant and it's bodily autonomy. Yes, we've already discussed this. What you're saying is valid reasoning for abortion being solely a woman's decision. Its not valid justification for forcing men to pay for a woman's decision to not abort though. The justification for financial abortion is not based off of bodily autonomy, its based off of assigning responsibility of the child to the person who had the sole decision to carry it to term or not. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:57 PM
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The woman gets to unilaterally choose to carry to term or not because she has unilateral control of her body. Yes, so she can unilaterally support the child herself instead of forcing the man to pay her. Neither the woman nor man has the right to a paper abortion after the child is born, The entire idea of paper abortion is that the man has to sign away their rights and child support while the woman is pregnant, since that is equivalent to the woman aborting during her pregnancy. So the topic of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:41 PM
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The sex was a mutual decision that contributed to the making of the child. But the right to abortion is an entirely one sided decision that the woman can make afterwards to completely terminate the pregnancy. Feminists will go off about how consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy and thus abortion should be legal. Just like that, I'm arguing that consent to sex is ALSO not consent to 18 years of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:38 PM
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The child only exists because the mother chose to carry it to term instead of aborting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:24 PM
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No, the law isn't fair since the child only exists because the woman unilaterally chose to carry it to term. Bodily autonomy only applies to the right to abortion. Paper abortions aren't justified through bodily autonomy, bur rather through assigning responsibility of the child towards the person who chose to carry it to term, which is the mother and the mother only.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:23 PM
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Regardless of what it's founded on, the end result is that you hold the sole right over the end decision of whether or not a child is carried to term. Thus, you should also hold the entire responsibility for the child and its upbringing rather than the man. Your body your choice, but his money? It's such messed up system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:19 PM
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You not liking something =/= not credible IFS is right leaning but generally engages in good science. If you feel one particular article is flawed you can explain why. Otherwise, your inability to engage with things you don't like says more about you than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:18 AM
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Anecdotally, redpill/tradcon wives cheat more easily than other spouses That's not true at all. Religiosity and right wing politics are generally associated with less cheating: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america The only research I've seen suggesting the opposite was some survey of Ashley Madison users, which has a heavily biased sample to begin with (especially because that site is overwhelmingly male) and isn't nearly as reliable as the IFS surve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:14 AM
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1) Gender roles do make less sense for the rich elite and yet these women were still not permitted to attend universities for large parts of recent history. Yes, I agree. It did make sense to educate richer women the same as richer men. I just don't see the point of focusing on the rich specifically when this is a fairly small part of the population in the grand scheme of things. Your original argument (correct me if I'm wrong) was that women were denied access to education so women being proud …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:57 PM
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And it was significantly more rich men than women with access to education and chances to become powerful politically. Yes, but you're talking about a small fraction of the overall population. Gender roles make less sense (and are more lopsided in privilege) when it comes to the rich because they aren't usually doing the sort of the dangerous or laborious work that the majority of the population has to do to survive. That's probably also where some of the critiques about feminism being dispropor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:33 PM
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It was largely also rich men with access to education and the chance to become powerful politically. You're acting like you're not doing the exact same thing he is lol. Most men were toiling in the fields as peasants, being soldiers, or doing some other physically laborious or dangerous job that women had no interest and/or capability of performing effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:08 PM
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Thanks for letting me know in advance I’m going to … uhh .. not hire Asians ?? If you don't live in the US, that probably doesn't apply to you. I think he's referring to how the US has affirmative action in colleges that directly discriminates against Asian applicants to let in less qualified black and Hispanic applicants. The Supreme Court is about to hear a case regarding this matter in the coming months and might get rid of the policy, but it's been a thing for decades and is one of the major…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:41 PM
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I believe there's also a correlation between height/income and marriage though, so those men are more likely to be already married as well. Not to mention that given that these men tend to have lots of options, the ones who aren't married are probably more likely to be single by choice compared to shorter and poorer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:29 PM
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You just explained what you want a wife to do, you didn't say shit about who she is. What a pointless phrase. Religiosity and promiscuity are clearly part of what a person is. Just because they're not the things you wish men would focus on in a woman doesn't mean they're not part of who she is. Just like men can't decide what women value in a man, women also can't decide what men value in a woman. And he gave just two examples, you didn't ask him to comment a whole laundry list of traits the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:36 PM
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Single women without kids outearn single men without kids by something like 8% last I checked. The "83%" thing applies after women have kids because it puts a hold on their career growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:16 PM
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I already addressed your point. Again, feminist and non-feminist women are attracted to the same men. Despite the fact that they they follow different cultural norms and expectations and have different ideas of practicality in their relationships. It's almost like there's a more basic factor behind why they have the same preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:53 PM
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Who you're attracted to is a matter of biology. The fact that feminist and antifeminist women are both attracted to the same type of man should make it clear that it's their biology and not their social beliefs that make up their attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:12 PM
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A woman identifying as a feminist, doesn't mean that she's not sexist or impartial to sexism. It's not just that they identify as feminist, it's that they were given a survey in which they firmly endorsed egalitarian values and rejected the sort of stereotypes you're talking about. They oppose those gender stereotypes but they're still biologically attracted to them regardless, which is the point that the OP was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:45 PM
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Women find benevolent sexism to be attractive regardless of whether they are feminist or not. Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/why-women-including-feminists-are-still-attracted-to-benevolently-sexist-men-101067 "We then wondered whether these findings could only really be applied to women who are simply OK with old-fashioned gender roles. To exclude this possibility, we studied participants’ degree of feminism with a widely used survey that measures feminist attitudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:31 PM
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I’m not totally sure what you are looking at but tables 3 and 4 are showing lifetime prevalence. I don’t see any data on either of those tables for the previous 12 months only. There are two columns in Tables 3 and 4. The right column is for 12 month stats. Edit: This seems to be the case for all the tables actually. Given that roughly one in three lesbians surveyed have had at least one male perpetrator, vs only about one in ten gay men having had at least one female perpetrator, any direct com…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:25 PM
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I did that as well in the CDC survey I posted. If you look at that, male and female victimization by physical abuse over lifetime is pretty similar in the mid 40's percentage. But yeah, I think we already agreed on that point in the other comment thread we were having. I do think comparing homosexual vs heterosexual makes sense because if members of one gender are generally more likely to be violent, I believe you'd see that reflected in the stats. If you believe that same sex relationships are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:23 PM
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Yeah I think that's fairly accurate. Physical abuse rate is similar but men are more likely to cause severe injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:51 PM
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I'm not "cherry picking" gay relationships, they just make a good point of comparison because if one gender is more likely to abuse than the other, you would expect that to be seen in abuse stats for gay relationships vs straight relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:48 PM
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Thats fine then. We can just say my comment added context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:44 AM
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Ok, now you're just moving goalposts. You explicitly said in your other comment: "Female partners are far less likely to be physically violent in any capacity" You explicitly said "physically violent in any capacity", but now you're trying to create distinctions in level of physical attacks based on severity. Female partners are about as likely to be physically violent in any capacity, but less likely to cause severe injuries or death. That's what the data supports. Edit: And 12 month stats in T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:41 AM
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I think it’s probably pretty safe to assume that of those who had at least one male perpetrator, it’s pretty unlikely that all or most of them had female perpetrators also I don't think it'd be safe to assume that. It's a pretty big flaw in the data to make a comparison while assuming that imo. Also can you source the claim that "according to that report, female perpetrators are much less likely to use physical violence against their partners." ? According to the 2016-2017 stats tables, male vic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:05 AM
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I recall seeing at least one smaller study where the report did make that distinction, and the rates of IPV experienced by women from female partners were similar to those of straight women from male partners. Fair enough, as long as you are making that distinction and the smaller study is good science, you can make the comparison. Though I would point out that you said the rates are similar for lesbian women victimized by women vs straight women victimized by men, while your original comment wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:58 AM
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Oh and besides my other comment, there's also one more thing I feel you misrepresented. "The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:55 AM
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Except the lesbians with male perpetrators may also have female perpetrators as well. You completely failed to account for that, so your comparison of the proportions of lesbian vs straight women who are abused by men is incorrect. That's what my point refutes. Edit for clarity: You are comparing having male perpetrators and potentially also female perpetrators (lesbian stats) to ONLY having male perpetrators (straight women stats). This doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:39 AM
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Yeah I just saw your study edited in and responded to it. I agree that testosterone can cause men to commit more violence in general, this just doesn't hold up well when it comes to relationship violence in America according to data collected by the CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:15 PM
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Your source is from England, so it doesn't necessarily apply to a US context. At least in the US, past CDC data has shown that lesbian relationships have higher IPV (intimate partner violence) rates than gay male relationships and IPV victimization is roughly similar between men and women, which is what the sources from my last couple comments show.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:13 PM
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According to wiki ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_same-sex_relationships) "The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:10 PM
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Yes, that's true for all crimes that men commit more. The context of the comment before yours was dysfunction in relationships though, which is much more of a mixed bag between genders. Also my study showed the opposite, which is that rates are roughly equal between men and women when it comes to victimization. Edit: correction When it comes to committing violence though, lesbian relationships have higher rates than heterosexual and gay male relationships by far: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:06 PM
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Last I checked, 70% of non-reciprocal domestic violence is committed by women, and lesbian relationships have higher rates of DV than heterosexual and gay male relationships. Edit: This was the source for the first claim. It came from what I believe was a CDC survey but that survey was conducted in 2001, so it might be outdated: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ "Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:30 PM
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"super predators.” I believe this was Hilary Clinton. I heard Berrnie Sanders criticized her for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:00 PM
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That sub seems to be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:45 PM
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Yeah, depends on how much your mother wants to invest time and play a "mother figure" to her grandchild. Two parents households definitely do better, though I think its more due to parental time investment into the kid and money being greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:36 PM
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If you get a good job, surrogacy might be affordable? Though raising it as a single dad might be tough. Maybe your mom could help with that since she wants the grandkids in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:17 PM
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Yeah I don't know if there's any real polling in the topic, so conjecture was all I had to go off of. I do agree about men signing away their rights, I just wish they also had the option of signing away their responsibilities before the child was born as well. Of course if they wanted the child until it was born but then changed their mind, they should still be on the hook for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:02 PM
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I loved that series in high school. Binged all 14 books in like one summer. But I have to say I don't think I could ever reread it now that I'm older with the constant braid tugging and "men Mars women Venus" thing it had going in. Literally no one in that series was capable of cross-gender communication. And don't even get me started on the terrible Amazon adaptation. Whatever, it first sparked my interest in fantasy books so it'll still hold a place in my heart for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:57 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+single+mothers+out+of+wedloock&oq=how+many+single+mothers+out+of+wedloock&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i10i160l2.3376j0j1&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Most single mothers have kids out of wedlock entirely. I would imagine a good portion of those cases are ones where the man didn't want the kid from the start, so I'd put the responsibility of the kid entirely on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:17 PM
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In any place that has legal abortion and where the man has made it clear he wants nothing to do with the child, as far as I'm concerned, the responsibility of the child is entirely the woman's. Women should abort if they know they can't afford a child and the man is not really committed ti raising it. Obvious exceptions include if the man said he would support the child and backed out or passed away or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:38 PM
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I'd prefer that outcome over making just the dude pay tbh. Though I'd also want some sort of penalty/limit for the woman who chose to have a kid she couldn't afford and who created the need for society having to take on that burden in the first place. No clue what that penalty/limit would be, just something to encourage her to abort next time or get her tubes tied or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:21 AM
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If the man has no interest in the child then she should just abort instead of trying to force a dude to pay her money. Her body, her problem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:45 AM
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It takes two to create one single mother. It's not like these women are popping out kids out of thin air. In any case where abortion is legal, the birth of that child is 100% on the woman as far as I'm concerned. I'd make an exception if the man said he would commit to raising the child and then backed out or died or something, but otherwise it's entirely the woman's decision to have the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:18 AM
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Or women can just not have kids they can't afford. At least in any state that has legal abortion, I don't really care if a woman has a kid she can't support tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:16 AM
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Or maybe many of those men don't have interest in/prioritize having kids/relationships. And do you apply this standard to women who don't have kids as well? Edit: Not to mention how many criminals have kids lol. Female sexual selection is a terrible measure of moral worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:12 AM
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No, there are actual stats on this. Men pay more into the government through taxes than they take out, while women are the opposite. That's what the guy is referring to. You made a valid point that women can contribute to social services through labor and volunteering rather than taxes, but the point he made about Financials is 100% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:10 AM
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Let me know when men making rape threats is trending on Twitter or some other site. Till then, I'm just gonna stand by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:09 PM
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Of course men couldn’t get away with that the same way. Because men are more likely to kill women in real life. Now you've just moved the goalposts from " men threaten women more online" to "its actually justified that women threaten men more online". It really isn’t an extreme minority, it’s very common. Also it’s not being moderated enough. Yeah, I just disagree with this entirely. It's definitely nowhere near as common as the killallmen hashtag and similar stuff was.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:57 PM
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Yeah, I think that's an extremely minority which is usually going to be heavily moderated or banned. Men couldn't get away with "#kill all women" the way that women did with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:49 PM
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70% of non-recoprocal domestic violence is committed by women iirc off of CDC stats. Too lazy to track it down rn though. Edit: Fine, I tracked down a source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ It is from 2007 though which is a lot older than I expected. Idk if there's something more recent online or not. Edit 2: also worth highlighting from the source: "A recent meta-analysis found that a woman’s perpetration of violence was the strongest predictor of her being a victim of pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:47 PM
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I mean … most of the violent threats are coming from the male side. Oh yeah, all those horrible men making "kill all women" trend on Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:42 PM
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You can debate over how effective these changes are, ​ That's just a difference in terms of what they see as "improvement". As I said in both my last comments^, you can debate over the definition of improving personality but if red pill changes work for the guys and gets them the desired outcome, I'd say its a success. Also I don't think that the things I mentioned involve better lying to women? They do involve acting a certain way, but that's going to be part of the process of changing your per…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:40 AM
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The gym and money is there, but the red pill also focuses on personality in terms of maintaining frame, keeping an abundance mentality, developing game (part of social skills in a dating context), and generally acting more like the part of an "alpha". You can debate over how effective these changes are, but they are definitely related to changing personality rather than just surface level stuff like go to the gym and get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:17 AM
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Redpill does focus on improving your personality, just not in terms of the "be emotionally sensitive and a good communicator" idea that blue pillers push. That's just a difference in terms of what they see as "improvement".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:21 AM
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I have no idea what you mean by this. Your implication was that women are against financial abortions just because men benefit. I'm a woman telling you that men benefitting is irrelevant to the reason I'm against it. Actually, fair enough. Just telling her to "pay for it herself" doesn't magically make her able to do so. Then she should have aborted it. If she chose to have it anyways, then again, her choice and her problem. So you'd prefer to pay for another man's kids. Got it. We can agree to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:02 AM
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Unfortunately I don't see any other way to keep things fair though. If a woman can choose to become or not become a mother, the man should also be able to choose to become or not become a father. That's what equality would mean. Yeah I agree, I'm just saying not a lot of women agree with that line of reasoning. Edit: clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:37 PM
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Thanks for being the perfect example of the type of woman I was talking about lol. I don't give a fuck about financial abortion "solely benefiting men." I - perhaps radically to you - think that's the parents who created the child should have to pay for the child and not the rest of society. If the woman chose to not abort the child even though the man made clear he has no interest in it then SHE made the child, not the man. (Obv only applies to places with legal abortion). Your choice, your res…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:36 PM
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I think the best compromise would be that, if the man wants to not be a father, he can give up 100% parental rights and get a financial abortion. I appreciate that you're actually consistent about this, but that makes you a rarity compared to most women on this sub that I've talked to about financial abortion. I think most women would be fine with male birth control and the like because by taking some of the responsibility for birth control off of them, it benefits them as well. But very few of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:50 PM
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Why do you think most of us don't care about men having equal reproductive rights and opportunities? Have you seen most women's reaction to financial abortion on this sub? I argued with a woman once who straight up said she thinks men specifically should not be able to opt out of pregnancies while women can. Some of the most pro-choice women will use the most pro-life arguments like "just don't have sex!" at the thought of consent to sex not being consent to the raising the child for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:35 PM
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Wrongful conviction is specifically the fault of the government because of errors, omissions, biases, etc. that people who are part of the government engaged in. No, false eyewitness testimonies (intentional or unintentional) can also cause wrongful convictions. Eyewitnesses are not part of the government. A change in available evidence can also prove wrongful conviction. A false eyewitness testimony is pretty directly comparable to a woman misidentifying the father of her baby honestly. The gov…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:45 AM
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The government is not responsible for the wrong man paying, the woman is. The same as if I wrongly accuse someone of rape and they go to jail. I was the one who was responsible for his situation, not the government for prosecuting him on my word. No, if the government is forcing the wrong man to pay then it is the government's fault as well as yours. You're trying to create a dichotomy that doesnt actually exist. If you tell me that someone attacked you and I proceed to beat them up, and it turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:42 AM
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A woman being dishonest about the paternity of one baby is not the fault of the government, and thus is not government's onus to address. If the government is forcing a man to pay money towards a woman then yes, it is the government's onus to address if they are forcing the wrong man. The government still applied the actual law equally, without prejudice. That's not how it works in asymmetrical situations like this. That's like me saying that banning gay marriage is fine because both gay and str…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:41 PM
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And goverment child support laws have made men pay money for the sake of children who aren't even theirs. So this is also an inequity caused by the government and one that the government should set right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:37 PM
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That's exactly what I'm claiming and I provided a source backing it up that directly gets its data from the CDC. You're outright incorrect to claim that women are raped more than men. Society privileges women's safety over men's to the point where female on male rape isn't even considered rape. Yet when it is, men are as likely to be raped as women (even more likely in some years). And I'm not watching a documentary for the sake of a Reddit convo lol. Link a reasonably sized article that takes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:27 AM
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No, stop. This is outright incorrect and misinformation. Made to penetrate crimes have straight up not been considered rape by the CDC for decades. That's why men supposedly rape men more. When made to penetrate crimes are actually qualified as rape, men are as likely to be victims of rape as women are. Edit source: https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:17 AM
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It's a line from OP which was posted 1d day ago I posted the same article about a week ago so I thought you were referencing that, my bad. Still, it's kinda irrelevant because it's not the sources I posted in my previous comment. So my proposition is that we both stop arguing about what is correct or incorrect and just live our personal lifes and make our personal decisions on what we suppose is true. When you base your perception of "how women behave" off of very flawed science then your percep…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:24 PM
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this is the first statement. What are you referencing? This isn't a line from any of the links in my last comment. It was a line from a post I made a week ago which is not something I told you as evidence. If you're not actually reading my comments then this is just a waste of time. i backed it up by providing actual real life measures of who cheats. No, you really didn't. Again, your measures are completely flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:46 AM
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I disagree, nothing is as unreliable as asking people for what they claim they will do. That's why questionaires have built in mechanisms to check for reliability. I seem to have screwed up and not cirrectly put my first link to a study into my previous comment. I've corrected that now. Nevertheless, what are you referring to? I don't believe any of my links involved asking people what they "claim they would do", the questions had to do with whether or not they had already cheated in the past. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:27 PM
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Yeah...this isn't how science works. A randomized survey of the general population is how you draw conclusions, not a survey specifically off of a site for cheating. Not to mention that they base politics off of members' voting registration records, which doesn't account for how many people clearly vote in lockstep with one party but don't actually register. That's not nearly as reliable as the data in the OP. Edit: Not sure if the OP linked this, but the data on this site is based off of the Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:05 AM
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You don’t give a shit about the outcomes of single parent homes. I do, which is why women should abort their fetuses when it's obvious the man has no interest in it. You think a man paying the minimum child support and not actually raising the child makes for a functional, 2 parent home? Lmao and you call me delusional. Your daddy never being there for you explains a lot of your misandry and hypocrisy, but I'd work that out with a therapist instead of Reddit because you got serious issues. Inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:12 PM
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I care about the topic, just not about your poor reasoning skills and the opinion generated by them. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:50 PM
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Don't care, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:37 PM
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Nah, self-admitted, sexist hypocrites like you are too morally bankrupt to have a sensible conversation with. I'm not reading more of your drivel. I'd wish you a nice life, but I don't really care one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:55 PM
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Yet, none of the things you’ve mentioned have ever been considered by anyone. Not any doctor or political figure. I wonder why. Let me wait for you to blame it on gynocentrism when most of these people are fucking men. Women make up over half the voter base, stop acting like you don't have power lmao. And paper abortions have been conceptualized by political figures in Denmark. The fact that it isn't a mainstream idea here in the US despite being blatantly correct is just another example of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:13 PM
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This argument was 90% opinion based. Nothing you said is factual or ever coming true. It’s conspiracies and wishful thinking. Keep living in your fantasy lol. You talk about facts yet you still haven't even given a source for the majority of women in the US not having abortion access anymore. Your entire attempt at argumentation was nothing but hysterics. I don’t think med school is looking too good for you. I don't care what you think, and luckily admissions committees won't either 👍 No way “Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:51 AM
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You haven’t stated any facts lmao. More than you lol. You might have a bio degree but your knowledge on sex education is lacking. More than you lol. You said "Abortion is not opting out of pregnancy" as if that's not literally what it is. Or maybe you think you can manipulate people to think like you? I’m not too sure but none of it worked on me. And none of your nonsense worked on me either. Kind of a nonsense line of argument lmao. I would say good luck with med school but I’m actually terrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:18 AM
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I’m no longer arguing with you. You said that last comment too. Science is on my side buddy. No it isn't, and saying it is won't change that either. Your opinion about facts don’t matter to me. Likewise. I sleep well at night knowing science and the law has my back. I don’t have to make up theories on Reddit and try to push them on people. Maybe you should dust off those one of those books you got in biology class and read through a few chapters. Nah, my knowledge of biology is better than yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:07 AM
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I’m no longer interested in going back and forth with you over this subject because you’re obviously not going to change your mind and I didn’t expect a person like you to. Judging from your post history this is a topic you feel very strongly about. I also feel very strongly about the subject as well but the difference is science and the law is on my side. You’re trying to redefine science in your head and I’m going to let you do that. Nah, science is on my side. The law being on your side means…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:40 AM
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Procreation starts LONG before a woman realizes she’s pregnant and needs to book an abortion appointment so this logic is automatically void. Yes? This invalidates none of what I said. You opt out of the entire rest of pregnancy including birth, which is the biggest part and the part which is relevant to whether or not the man has to pay child support. If you have control over that then the man morally owes you nothing. You created the child yourself. It’s impossible for a woman to impregnate he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:59 PM
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Why do you think a child that you made with a woman isn’t your responsibility? You did it. I really want to know the mind of men that think like this. It's not my responsibility because the woman chose to create the child by not aborting it. This applies in any location whre she had the option of aborting and chose not to. It's not that complicated lol. Your body, your choice, your fucking problem. The man didn't want the child but you chose to carry it to term anyways? Good, then pay for it you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:37 PM
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There is nothing gynocentric with expecting men to to take care of their own responsibilities. There is something gynocentric about expecting men to take care of women's responsibilities, which is what child support does in pro-choice states. The government isn’t responsible for raising the kid you made, you are! You did that shit yourself. No one put a gun to your head and made you have unprotected sex. That is all you my friend! Nah, the woman did that herself by not aborting the child. Men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:17 PM
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When the court summons you for child support it becomes a YOU problem. Yes, I'm aware society that society is gynocentric to the point of unfairly holding men to an higher moral standard than women. This isn't anything new, it's just another thing men have had to deal with for most of human history. I think it’s silly to say “this only applies to the other women” when the majority of women no longer have access to abortions. That makes your point void. I'm going to respond to this once more and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:29 PM
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It doesn’t matter if he had no interest. She’s already pregnant. It’s your fault and your job to take care of your responsibilities. Single motherhood is a shared consequence. Nah. Your body, your problem. Abortion? Lmao Are you forgetting that this right was just stripped away from millions of women? Yes, I'm pretty sure I addressed that in my comment. This obviously only applies to the millions more women who live in places where abortion is legal, as consent to sex is consent to pregnancy in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:06 PM
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It IS a pro-life and pro-choice argument. Men are complaining that they don't have reproductive rights despite cumming in females because females have been going in forever about how consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. If sex is not consent to pregnancy for a female then it shouldn't be consent to 18 years of child support for a man. If you don't even understand the basics of that argument then stop arguing over it lol. Males control the sperm and where it goes, not women. Only in cases …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:30 PM
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Yes, obviously. Just to confirm, are you pro or anti abortion? Because if you have this perspective consistently with regards to both men and women, then that's fine. But if you want women to have the right to abortion access if they let a man cum in them, but don't want men to have access to paper abortions if they cum in a woman, then you're just a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:56 PM
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Males complain about stuff like not having reproductive rights. But will then deliberately ejaculate inside a woman and get upset she's pregnant. The heck? So if a female lets a man ejaculate in her, then she should also not be upset if she gets pregnant and not complain about lacking abortion rights? The blatant hypocrisy of pro-choicers on this issue lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:49 PM
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How are men not to be blamed for single motherhood? Depends on the circumstance. I'd blame the woman if the man clearly expressed he has no interest in having a child and she chose to not abort it anyways (assuming this is an option for her because she lives in a place with accessible abortion). If the man expressed wanting the child and then abandoned it afterwards then yeah, I'd blame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:45 PM
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This doesn't really check out if you break things down state by state though. People do generally move from high tax to low tax areas. California has had a new migration outwards for years while Texas and a lot low tax states have people coming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:45 AM
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Yeah even if I dance with a woman, I can't imagine that's the style I'd go with lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:58 PM
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We had square dancing in my middle school. I don't think it really broke my out of my shell or anything though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:48 PM
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I’m really not that interested in that clip you posted. I don’t think it proves that feminism is anti-women-being-nurturing. Nobody said it represents the entirety of feminism, but it's an example of the shaming attitude that a lot of feminists have towards nurturing women. And based on your own response to the clip, it's pretty clear that you have that same bias yourself. You equated her caring for her husband as subservience and being a doormat. You straight up disproved yourself in like the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:35 PM
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I don’t think she’s a doormat for feeding her children; I think she’s a doormat for getting her husband coffee at 4am. That’s not nurturing, that’s acting as a servant. Do you not see the difference? No, not at all. You don't really know her entire sleep schedule (naps exist) or if her husband isn't working just as hard to make their single income life possible. If this is something she's choosing and her husband is doing his part, then she's not a servant and you're displaying that exact overt …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:39 PM
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I like that you’re stepping back from “overt disdain” because you realized that that’s simply not true. What do you mean "stepping back"? I never said the words "overt disdain" in the first place. Please try reading better, since you might have confused me with some other commenter. Also you ignored the bit about the video I posted. If we are talking about overt disdain, you displayed it yourself when you said the woman was a doormat and subservient because she goes that far out of her way for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:43 PM
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Like, yes, people who act like a doormat will be made of. So what? A doormat? Subservient? Now you're straight up shaming nurturing women, despite claiming that this doesn't really happen. The woman in the video is nurturing to her kids and husband, but there's absolutely nothing suggesting that she's inherently submissive or subservient to her husband. Thanks for giving an example of exactly what I was talking about. Mere discussion of the wage gap hardly equates to “overt disdain” for nurturin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:17 PM
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Who is actually saying these things? There's a fair bit of subtle and not so subtle messaging surrounding it. The wage gap for example is caused by women's choices to have and care for children, as well as differences in their career choices because women tend to prefer people facing fields (often ones that are nurturing like healthcare and teaching). Feminists tend to have an issue with that and can't seem to understand that biological preference has a lot to do with women's choices there. So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:41 PM
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Lower income men are probably doing more manual labor I imagine? I didn't actually read the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:21 AM
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You’re not going to convince California to be pro-life and you’re not going to convince bible belt states to be pro-choice. Not any time soon, no. But there was a time where people would have said similar things about slavery, women's suffrage, or any other divisive social issue. You're taking a view that progress is impossible if most people in a state disagree with it today, which is pretty ridiculous. That is basically what’s happening. Most people just move to safer places than do revolution…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:20 PM
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Also, I just like reminding them that, as of right now, 13 US states have have banned abortion, so those men can always move to those states if equality matters so much to them. What kind of logic is this? "If equality matters so much to you then just leave, don't keep fighting for equality where you are right now!" If everyone thought like you, social progress would be limited to like one country where everyone who wants it moves to. Meanwhile, the rest of the world would be living in caveman s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:05 PM
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Did you even read what he said? He said youre speaking for yourself and that men don't necessarily want experienced women. That phrasing is the exact opposite of painting everyone with the same brush. If anything, you're the one painting everyone with the same brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:48 AM
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You can break up for any reason at any time, even if she is just wearing clothes that you find too revealing. It would be immoral for you to try to force her to change for you though by not wearing those clothes. Same applies to sleeping with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:02 PM
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There was a source I read by an anthropologist a long time ago. Though I don't think I could track it down now that it's years later, so you can take it with a grain of salt if you'd like. The source showed that even in tribal communities which have less of a monogamous system set up, fathers who have more paternal certainty with regards to children tend to invest more time into the children, and the children are consequently more likely to survive and have better outcomes in the long run. The i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:43 PM
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No, consent to sex is not consent to carrying to term and giving birth, is more logical. Then it's not consent to 18 years of child support either. This is just pure hypocrisy. Men aren't responsible for women and should not be held accountable for decisions made entirely by women such as not aborting. You're not a child, if you chose to carry a child that a man didn't want then raise it yourself. Why tf should a man walk away though? He will never have the same consequences as the woman. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:26 PM
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The survey actually showed that men also judge female infidelity less harshly than male infidelity. Though the gap isn't as large as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:53 AM
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Unless women really do judge other women more gently for killing people... Lol this just reminded me of a Bill Burr clip with his take on a movie about a female serial killer: https://youtu.be/ARERGvMzhmc?t=711
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:22 AM
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One of their senior fellows endorsed bad science in an anti gay parenting study, which is a blemish to their reputation. The organization as a whole is generally reliable outside of that, at least according to most sites I've seen that try to examine media bias and the like. Is there any particular controversy they've gotten into besides Brad Wilcox endorsing the anti-gay parenting study? Also I don't think having a biased motive for conducting a study necessarily means that the methodology or r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:07 AM
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It was also done on men. You might not have read it because my post was kinda long, but funny enough, men also judge female infidelity less harshly than male infidelity. The gap isn't quite as large as for women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:23 AM
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Even if the child's upbringing is your priority, that situation should be best solved (in my opinion) by allowing men financial abortions and increasing social support for children. It's just ridiculous to me when men are seen as deadbeats for not wanting to support a child they never wanted while women unilaterally chose to carry that child to term instead of aborting it, and yet single mothers will be treated as victims. Men are not responsible for women's choices and should not be held as suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:12 AM
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The woman also had the choice to let the man ejaculate inside of her (exception of rape obv). Yet prochoicers will say that consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy, so she should still be able to have an abortion and walk away from having to carry and give birth to a child. If that's the case then the man should definitely be able to walk away as well. In the words of Dave Chappelle, "if you can kill this motherfucker I should at least be able to abandon it".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:07 AM
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It’s a different choice from the one women have. Yes, and that's morally wrong. You're not giving men and women an equal amount of choice in this situation. We can't make the choices perfectly equal given the biology of the situation, but financial abortions are as close to equal as you can realistically get. If prochoicers were morally consistent and not sexist, they would understand that and support financial abortions. And women have more ‘power’ in the final say because their choice invoices…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:04 AM
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Interesting. It's hard to be introspective about our own biases, so thanks for your perspective and writing that out. If you were to answer a survey like this, do you think you'd try to be aware of the bias and respond accordingly or just go with the instinctive reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:59 AM
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The survey says men also judge male infidelity more harshly, though the gap isn't as large as for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:54 AM
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Oh good catch. Imo being less happy with your relationship isn't an excuse for cheating, nor does it make things more defensible. I feel like you should break up and leave at that point. Though I can see how it'd be a little easier to sympathize with someone if they cheat because they're unhappy vs they just have an opportunity. I just don't think it's more morally acceptable on an objective level. But yeah it makes sense as one explanation for the discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:54 AM
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Again, you keep talking about risk without talking about choice and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:47 AM
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You keep talking about risk without acknowledging the mitigating factor, which is choice. No matter how risky it is to keep the child for the woman, she always has the choice of aborting it and dodging all those horrible risks. A man does not have that choice if the woman wants to keep the child. Long story short, if you want 100% of the choice, it should be 100% your responsibility to raise that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:40 AM
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No, but she chose to not abort it on her own. Y'all will go on about how consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy yet somehow are fine with it being consent to 18 years of child support. On an objective level I'd say I'm pro choice till the 20th week or so but just due to the sheer hypocrisy of most pro-choice women on this topic, I seriously don't care about abortion rights and won't factor it into my vote at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:24 AM
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The child is born because the woman chose unilaterally not to abort it. It doesn't deserve anything on a moral level from the man, just the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:17 AM
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The average height for (edit: male) Americans above the age of 20 is 5 foot 9 according to the CDC. Even if you're looking at people 20-39, the average height is 5 foot 9.3 inches according to this source, and the source cites the CDC: https://thebonescience.com/blogs/journal/average-height-around-the-world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:50 PM
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5 foot 10 still isn’t taller than most men It's above average, so it is taller than most men. Unless you live in the Netherlands or something idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:35 PM
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It’s not like women are saying “we want to be as ugly and fat as we want with no consequences!!”. A lot of the anti "fatphobic" stuff is exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:24 AM
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A lot of it is because men have lower life expectancy than women (due to both biological and social factors), so there are around 3 million more women than men in the US. Older people in particular tend to vote more but there are significantly more women alive at older ages than men. Edit: it seems that women also have slightly higher turnout than men in general, so it goes beyond just how many are alive. I've heard it attributed to issues like abortion being particularly polarizing among women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:38 AM
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Women make up the majority of the voter base (at least in America). So this decline is more complicated than just men destroying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:18 AM
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I'm a strong, independent king who don't need no woman. Obviously I'm being snarky here, but my point is that just as there are some standards women would rather be single than compromise on, body count is one such standard for a lot of men. Putting me down for never knowing the touch of a woman isn't much of an insult when the alternative is having to date a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:48 PM
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After tens of thousands of years of evolution in a particular social structure, those two things aren't nearly as separate as you're making them out to be. Edit: hundreds of thousands actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:46 PM
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I know my worth and I'd rather be single than settle 👏 👏 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:18 PM
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Humans evolved in small tribes. There is a way of detecting how many partners a woman has had in a close knit community like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:16 PM
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DID YOU MAKE DIRECT EYE CONTACT WITH THAT GIRL FOR MORE THAN 7 S. 7 seconds of eye contact is a lot if you're not in the middle of a conversation with her tbh. If a stranger did that to me I would feel awkward af.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:08 PM
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Ok I see, I didn't realize the complex went beyond just the dichotomy that men often put women into. Fair enough then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:34 PM
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MWC does make sense from an evolutionary perspective though. Sleeping with many women who let him (the so called "whores") means that a man increases his reproductive success, but settling down with the kind of woman who doesn't sleep with many men (Madonna) increases the odds that he doesn't end up raising some other dude's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:21 PM
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No, because the point of the guy you were responding to is that a lot of researchers are pressured to not study these topics at all because they are controversial (regardless of whether they are true or false). This is something that Destiny himself would likely agree with given his positions in the wokism has gone too far video. Even if there are researchers who say it hasn't been proven, it would be kind of hard to prove in the first place if it's so controversial to do research on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:11 PM
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Destiny literally had a ChangeMyMind video recently where he debated a college girl. She implied that Bret Weinstein's desire to discuss evolutionary biology and race was obviously going to be an attempt to put black people down and that's why it was fine for the college to pressure him into leaving. Destiny himself pushed back against the idea, pointing out that an evolutionary biologist would obviously give a lecture on race related to what he's actually studied. The kind of attitude the girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:36 PM
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If this is the case then women wouldn't complain about the "Madonna-Whore Complex".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:51 PM
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Without the men’s sperm their would be NO CHILD. Without the woman choosing not to abort, there would also be NO CHILD. So no, there is no equal responsibility here at all. You have to grow up and be accountable for your actions. Ironic coming from someone who wants to hold men accountable for her decisions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:43 AM
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That varies from place to place, but safe haven laws and adoption still exist. Also the fact remains that the woman actually chose to create the child by not aborting it (assuming she lives in a pro-choice state/country) while the man was only involved in the creation of the fetus. Having the woman take responsibility for a child she chose to carry is far more fair than making a man take responsibility for a child that a woman chose to carry against his own wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:41 AM
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This issue in particular is one of the reasons I don't take feminists seriously when they pretend to be about gender equality. The most pro-choice of feminists will turn to the most stringent of pro-life arguments like "just don't have sex then!!!" and it's pretty pathetic to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:14 PM
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And yet it isn't a child, so making the man take responsibility for the child would be unjust. Only the woman made the child by choosing to carry it for 9 months, so the woman can take care of it herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:09 PM
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Yandere irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:36 PM
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How much do you think Doordash paid to have that detail added in? If its so good that someone'll put sex AND murder on pause for it...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:33 PM
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Source? The demographics that have abortions (disproportionately minorities, poor, and single women) tend to be left leaning. Polls also show Republican women to be more stringently anti-abortion than Republican men on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:04 PM
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The percentage of men who think it's okay to rape and murder women is a lot lower than the number of people who support federally funded abortion. Here's a source examining different polls on the issue, but the numbers in support of federal funding are usually like 25% or higher, sometimes going near 50% depending on the poll. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/06/jayapals-claim-that-majority-country-supports-federal-funding-abortion/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:27 PM
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It’s not that we want it state funded A LOT of abortion activists want it state funded. There was an effort to remove the Hyde amendment just recently (I don't remember how it went).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:20 PM
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It's for "family studies", and yes, it is a legit and reliable source of data. Data from that institute and its researchers has been used in a pretty wide variety of news sources, both left and right. You can look up it's reliability online and most evaluators will say it's consistently reliable, with the one blemish of a controversy over a claim made by one of its founders regarding gay parenting. Edit source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/institute-for-family-studies/ "In review, the Institut…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:24 PM
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Again, all of them are romance leads for a reason - ALL, both halves. I think your small brain might have struggled to comprehend what the original discussion was about, so let me enlighten you. It doesn't matter why they're romance leads. It doesn't matter that they're singularly in love with their female leads or whatever other quality you chose to focus on. We were discussing their morality and how acting like them can supposedly teach "good morals". When a good half of them have clearly bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:38 PM
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So explain how Jack has the same appeal. Or Tristen from Legends of the Fall. Or Noah from The Notebook? You’ll be forced to see that these with no power have things in common with all these characters, and you’re ignoring those things (or stupid). Then the original commenter should have specified these guys instead of saying men should act like romance leads, considering just how many of the romance leads behave opposite of having "good morals" and are completely unrealistic. You can't say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:01 PM
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Acting like male romance leads doesn’t mean the skit you posted. For a good half of romance leads, yes it is. This is exactly how they behave and a major reason why most men don't read romance. Women can self insert themselves into the boring female lead without a problem but a lot of men have no desire to self insert into a male lead who's talks and acts in such a ridiculous way. They're perfect-like in terms of looks and their position of power, yet speak as if a woman wrote every line of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:32 PM
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Did you actually read this entire comment thread or is the name "neurogenius" just for show? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xsa0n4/personality_is_too_broad_of_a_term_looks_and/iqjkgrx?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 She was referring to the morality of male romance leads and how acting like them would make men better people. This is a dumb take because a good half of male romance leads regularly ignore boundaries, physical and otherwise, in the pursuit of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:11 PM
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Wanting real people to act like fictional characters is so open minded that your brain might have fallen out already 😄 🤣 😂 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:22 AM
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Mine did teach that stuff, but most of us still watched porn. But sure I see what you're saying. It's less about sex ed teaching the mechanics of sex so much as it needing to teach what steps you need to do before you get to sex (like getting consent for choking and the like).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:39 PM
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School sex ed teaches about stds and birth control and the like. No school is showing boys exactly how to have sex lol, I think that would be child abuse. If they're not having sex themselves then yes, watching other people do it online is the next best reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:36 AM
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Except the political purpose isn't imaginary at all. When you consistently tear down competent male characters such as Luke Skywalker and Poe Dameron and show only the female characters as being competent, then it's pretty obvious you're trying to send a message. Especially when some of what the female characters do doesn't even make sense in the context of the pre-established fiction (like Holdo's light speed suicide tactic). One of my favorite fantasy book series growing up was the Wheel of Ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:36 PM
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A lot of female media is in literature, which is very female dominated in terms of authors and readers. Even in terms of sexual media, men use porn but erotic literature caters more to women. Correction: not literature so much as adult fiction and romance, which are the two largest genres in literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:06 PM
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A lot of the complaining about female led media is because they take media that started out good and was initially male led (Ghostbusters and Star Wars for example), and then butcher it. Often by putting their political agenda over actual well developed characters and story. People rarely complain about mediocre female led media that's actually original. Even if some do, I doubt you'll find any examples remotely close to the amount of hate the new Ghostbusters and Star Wars got, because people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:18 PM
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Perhaps, but telling real life men to act like romance heroes, in the age of MeToo no less, is similarly divorced from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:09 PM
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If men read romance novels I think they would be better individuals Yes, I should become so obsessed at first sight with a random, boring self-insert of a teenage girl that I should spend all my free time relentlessly stalking her, watching her sleep without her knowledge, and getting involved in her business without permission. Eventually I will reveal to her that I'm a hundred year old vampire but she will overlook it in favor of my skin that glistens in sunlight, chiseled jawline, and washboa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:49 PM
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Cherry picking? You mean using the figures that are literally there? Just take your L and leave lmao. Also do you have trouble reading or something? I already addressed that MTP not being defined as rape even though it clearly is is another example of the gynocentricism this post is complaining about. And even the CDC website straight up says "MTP is a form of sexual violence that some in the practice field consider similar to rape. CDC measures rape and MTP as separate concepts and views the tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:35 AM
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Are you really this lazy that you read to only page 4? Even when my link actually referenced specific tables and pages? Table 1 clearly shows that for 12 month figures, female rape stats are at 1.6% while male made to penetrate stats are at 1.7%. As my link pointed out, 12 month figures are more reliable than lifetime figures due to selective recall and the fact that female-on-male rape wasn't even acknowledged as a real thing until recently. By the way, the fact that the CDC didn't even define …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:04 AM
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CDC stats. Here's a link which links a bunch of the CDC reports: https://www.saveservices.org/2021/04/pr-cdc-says-men-are-half-of-all-victims-of-sexual-violence/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:23 PM
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Male and female rape victimization numbers are pretty equivalent in recent years when made to penetrate crimes are actually considered to be rape. The fact that made to penetrate crimes are barely acknowledged by the public is, again, an example of gynocentricism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:48 AM
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The entirety of media in the west was built on men's preferences (for men and women) and the majority continues to be so. Yeah no, women drive consumerism and do the vast majority of spending. Media and advertisements are directed for their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:19 PM
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Most human evolution happened in small and close knit tribes. You absolutely have a way of knowing who's promiscuous or not in that setting. You'd have to be blind and deaf to not have a general idea honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:50 AM
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You still need to define what gene causes uncontrollable "natural" sexed behaviours in humans. Wait just to be clear, you think there's no biology involved in men and women's mating preferences? Women's attraction to height is purely a result of socialization, as is men's attraction to low n count women? What about the fact that men are generally attracted to women and vice versa? Purely socialized? The fact that human beings are overwhelmingly sexually attracted to other human beings? Purely so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:30 AM
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Define evolutionary "Inherited traits which increase the odds of reproductive success" would probably work in this context. On what gene are "evolutionary" behaviours coded on from birth depending on sex? Somewhere on the Y chromosome probably? Edit: though it could really be just about anywhere and the genes could be activated in response to hormonal cues too. Men having higher testosterone vs women having more estrogen probably activates and inhibits expression of various genes. Sexual prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:21 AM
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That's a good point actually, assuming you're actually criticizing them in your head and it's not just a natural revulsion. I still personally wouldn't consider it to be immoral unless the criticism is outwards though. Nobody is really hurt if you refuse to date someone, and that decision is entirely yours to make regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:23 PM
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Slutshaming is a different matter, but there's nothing wrong with a guy trying to rack up a body count and still trying to wife a low n count girl imo. As long as it's your personal dating preference and you're not actually criticizing or insulting someone for their life choices while doing the same shit, there's nothing wrong with it. Hypocrisy requires actual criticism, not a refusal to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:36 PM
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Women are more religious than men on average in basically every religion but Islam lol. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/22/the-gender-gap-in-religion-around-the-world/#:~:text=An%20estimated%2083.4%25%20of%20women,in%20192%20countries%20and%20territories Try again. Edit: Also don't try to position astrology as any more sensible than religion in general. It's fine when people decide their wedding date when using it or whatever, but some people outright reject or accept partners off o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:19 PM
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Nobody said it does, and it doesn't have to either. Even if there's just a strong correlation between tattoos/piercings and promiscuity, that's something that men can use to assess whether or not a woman is promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:33 AM
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No: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word) Man was historically a gender neutral term. They had separate terms for what we call men and women nowadays. That's why what you're saying is an ahistorical, feminist talking point. Edit: the terms they used for modern day men and women: In Old English the words wer and wīf were used to refer to "a male" and "a female" respectively, while mann had the primary meaning of "person" or "human" regardless of gender. Both wer and wyf may be used to qualif…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:31 PM
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This post isn’t about pre rvw and neither was my comment Classic PPD woman argumentation. Go ahead and deflect from your lack of reading skills. Not to mention that your comment was asking which developed countries do restrict abortion, which is something that's still happening regardless of whether or not Roe is overturned. You're not weaseling out of this one lol. Have fun in your shitty fucking country lol you deserve it Thanks, life is good and I will. It helps that we don't have idiots like…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:22 PM
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I literally said "America was". I know you're a PPD woman, but do try learning to read. Also your question was which countries heavily restrict abortion. I pointed out that by the standards of America pre-Roe, nearly every other developed country had stricter restrictions than us, with many even restricting abortion to half the time we did (12 wks vs 24 wks).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:15 PM
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America was one of like 7 nations that allowed elective abortion till the 24th week, with China and N Korea being two others on the list. We were far left as hell compared to the rest of the world on this issue. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/09/is-the-united-states-one-of-seven-countries-that-allow-elective-abortions-after-20-weeks-of-pregnancy/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:13 AM
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Yes https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751672.amp Though "scheming" is a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:43 AM
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We don't consider spending half your untaxed income on an underdeveloped flat to be a better life, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:36 PM
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Given America's far greater size, population, and civilian gun ownership, you're being delusional if you think it couldn't pull off mass civilian resistance like Vietnam or Afghanistan did. Civilians are being given guns in the Ukrainian war right now as part of their resistance. Is Russia also fighting a war on the other side of the planet? Are Ukrainian civilians used to fighting a war against imperialists (within recent history)? Granted the US military is far more competent than the Russian …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:40 PM
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