kryptokate Archive

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3	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?	Question for RedPill	kryptokate	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 10:43 PM

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1	The Blue Pill Reloaded Everything in this world is magic, except to the magician.	/r/TheRedPill	17/01/17 01:35 AM
2	Red Pill has trouble with basic social cues, and that is a bigger problem in the SMP than potential lack of attractiveness It's because people are primarily socialized through media rather than actual real-world socializing with other people. Even worse, the media they consume is mostly a packaged product sold or sponsored by advertisers and thus directly peddling fantasies. Thus, the disconnect between one's expectations/desires and what is actually available/realistic grows increasingly large, beginning with mass media in mid-20th century and growing every day til 2017, where everyone interacts more with screens t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/17 09:08 PM
1	Dead Bedrooms, Sleeping with Married Women and the Alpha Male On an internet site there are going to be way more men than women, so yes they can afford to be quite choosy. IRL the guys who will hit on a married woman are few and far in between. Yep, the most explosive passionate sex often involves breaking a taboo, such as when a married woman cheats. There's tons of tension and danger riding on it, besides the fact that she's been kissing the same guy for 10 years, if they still kiss at all, and suddenly the new guy is devouring her like a four-course mea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/16 02:09 AM
1	Dead Bedrooms, Sleeping with Married Women and the Alpha Male Right, I know. But also, a guy who is willing to have the balls to hit on a married woman is already sort of +1 in her mind, since most guys will very quickly back down if they think you're "taken" by another guy -- they don't want the potential trouble. A guy who is actually willing to go there anyway, who wants you enough to risk it and who is willing to pursue a woman despite her already having a man, is sort of showing himself to think he is worthy of the competition and thus seems high valu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/16 01:33 AM
2	CMV: A lot of men prefer low-N women because they find high partner count women gross You have your causation backwards. You should be thinking about WHY you have the emotion of disgust, since all emotions evolved for a purpose: to get us to seek something out or avoid something. Disgust is an emotion that evolved to get people to avoid things that are potentially bad for them (i.e. disease causing). The reason you find it disgusting is because in a primitive world, a woman with many partners has a very low chance of bearing your child. And you are programmed to prefer to get you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/16 12:41 AM
3	Dead Bedrooms, Sleeping with Married Women and the Alpha Male Idk why everyone is hating on your post. I believe you, and your conclusions are correct. People get bored sexually in long-term relationships. In fact, it is much EASIER to sleep with someone out of your league who is in an LTR, and this goes for both men and women. Because single people have higher standards, whereas for a coupled-up person, you're new and exciting and they don't get hit on that much so the fact that you're willing to give them an excuse to cheat, and that you'll be discrete, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/16 12:35 AM
5	[FR] AWALT - Heed my warning - No Exceptions: Not even the girls with personality (not-basic). Sounds to me like she just got way too drunk and didn't know wtf was going on. This girl's a nerd who likes to solve equations for fun, not a party girl. Why the fuck would you take her to a club? Even if she likes to dance she probably considers people who hang out at clubs to be low IQ morons, because they are. She probably also isn't used to drinking a lot. Don't treat aN engineering nerd like a sorority basic bitch, they're a different species. You could've banged her if instead of taking he…	/r/TheRedPill	03/10/16 02:06 AM
1	Two (relatively) easy ways we can take back control of the sexual marketplace. Those guys also prefer to fuck whores bc a prostitute guarantees discretion and can't go after them for more than their hourly/daily rate. I believe this is why most men favor keeping prostitution illegal...bc it's a way to cheat on their wives without getting caught or having some crazy bitch pull a Fatal Attraction on you. The vast majority of men who visit prostitutes are married. So long as it's illegal, then the prostitute has just as much incentive to keep it discreet as he does. Otherwise…	/r/TheRedPill	03/10/16 01:49 AM
–	My first LTR/marriage was a petite, intelligent HB8 blonde. Now that I am single again, I cant even get ugly chubby girls on tinder, what gives? I honestly don't mean to be a jerk but I'm just going to tell you the unvarnished truth, and the sooner you can accept it, the better: you married WAY out of your league and you should not expect to get someone of that caliber again unless you seriously up your own value. Basically, you lucked out with a super young chick who probably didn't have much experience and was naive and didn't realize her value. But you were WAY out of your lane. The result was inevitable. Try not to feel upset about w…	/r/askTRP	23/06/16 04:45 AM
3	FR: Girls don't even understand how they work. Yep, totally. Same applies to men. Most married men are so sexually starved they'll sleep with anyone who gives them sexual attention, and they usually dip well below their standards with a chick way less hot than their wife to do so. The novelty adds like 5 points to someone's SMV when you're sexually starved/bored by the same fuck for 10 years. As the saying goes, when you game a married person you're only competing against one person. With a single person you're competing against everyone. Si…	/r/TheRedPill	23/06/16 04:18 AM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Yeah the only response to people with that temperament is no response at all, and make yourself a non-entity in their minds. I met a BPD chick last year at a party who seemed normal for about 30 minutes but later in the night she started telling me story after ridiculous story, all insane and all of which involved her as a victim. After drinking so much she likely didn't realize what she was saying, she straight up ADMITTED TO ME -- a total stranger she had just met that night -- that she made u…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/16 02:36 AM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Yes but that was my whole point. That there is a difference between how conduct effects someone and the intent of that conduct. Some here are saying that women maliciously break up at bad times FOR THE PURPOSE of getting some joy out of watching him suffer, and that is simply not true. Again, it's like claiming a man cheats on his girlfriend with a young hottie just to gleefully hurt his girlfriend. No. That's not why a man does that. He's programmed to do that because it's in his sexual interes…	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/16 01:37 AM
4	Brock Turner I think the police report makes it clear she was a regular binge drinker. She admitted she's had several blackouts before.	/r/TheRedPill	09/06/16 01:28 AM
6	Brock Turner This is true but it really isn't just "some people" who have this problem "for some reason". It's generally hardcore drinkers whose bodies have a super high tolerance for alcohol. The vast majority of people would get sick before they got to this point. By the accounts, she had champagne, 4 shots of whiskey, several shots of vodka, beer, and then who knows what else as she doesn't remember after that. So that's like 7-?? drinks. Most people who drank that much would be totally incapacitated and …	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/16 10:47 PM
0	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Try ignoring my username and responding to content, it's not that hard.	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/16 10:27 PM
1	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Yeah, I don't know, that's weird. How do you blame someone for a miscarriage, anyway? The only thing I can think is that she didn't want him to think that her genes/uterus were defective in any way. She didn't want him to see her as a bad investment for reproducing. So she preferred to make him think it was his fault somehow, so that in his eyes she was still both morally non-culpable and a wonderful genetic specimen that he should invest in. Might not have been that thought out, but that could …	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/16 03:48 AM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. I don't disagree with anything you said except for the part about "women will try to destroy you if they can when it is gone." Unless by "destroy" you mean "break your heart" -- which isn't the same. But if you mean actually harm the guy beyond that, I don't ever see that happening unless the guy has dumped/abandoned a woman for someone else in a situation where she believed she was trading being nice and sexual favors (which she didn't otherwise freely really want to do) for some kind of long-t…	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/16 03:39 AM
1	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Well, I'm sure there are plenty of instances of women breaking up right after something bad happens that lowers the guy's value in her mind (loss of a job or whatever). I just disagree that it's purposely malicious or done "gleefully" for the fun of watching him suffer. That's the exaggerated part. It's like saying a guy cheats with a young hottie just purposefully to make his girlfriend suffer...no, he does it because he's horny and the opportunity presents itself. And then probably takes pains…	/r/TheRedPill	08/06/16 03:22 AM
2	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. There is a difference between abuse and actually threatening her survival. See my response below. Abused people (men and women) enjoy the drama and the rollercoaster of emotion provided by their powerful mate. Though this is socially unacceptable to say, it's pretty obvious. That's different though, from actually threatening someone's life. Hardly anyone will stand for that. There is no such thing as a "truly tame vagina". Or a truly tame penis. You can render their owners tame in practice by ma…	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:47 PM
1	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. Yep. The picked-on or rejected person remembers every detail vividly and imagines it was all super purposeful and malicious. And the socially dominant person often wasn't even aware and has no memory of it because it meant nothing to them and barely registered in their consciousness.	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:40 PM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. It's not true, that's why. Women will most certainly do the breakup in the way that is least painful to her, of course. And that preserves her social capital and options as best as possible. But I have been privy to a hundred girl-strategizing bitch sessions, and NEVER have I seen a girl do anything other than try to minimize the pain for the guy, to the extent possible. Only exception would be if he had cheated on her a bunch or something that made her want to "show" him, but otherwise there is…	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:39 PM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. This is much closer to the reality. These delusions of women purposely plotting to harm you for fun are fantasies that allow you to indulge in the idea that she's cruel, rather accepting that you were simply very, very vulnerable and there was no way for her NOT to hurt you. The reality is that most women actually take GREAT PAINS to avoid hurting men when they break up...not the other way around. They stay way longer than they wanted to, they protect his ego, they give him a reason he can accep…	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:27 PM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. It's not that hard to understand it is EXACTLY the same addiction to drama that causes guys to get into relationships with BPD crazy bitches. Person acts horrible and gives you a super strong adrenaline spike and terrible dramatic emotions....followed by them begging your forgiveness on their knees, weeping, declaring their more-passionate-than-anyone-in-the-world-you-make-me-so-crazy-I'd-kill-for-you-love, followed by ultra passionate crazy wild amazing make-up sex that breaks the tension. Rins…	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:17 PM
–	The Feminine Coup de Grâce - Why she chooses the worst possible moment to leave you. They comply with your wishes long enough to get out of the immediate threat of violence and then they get the fuck away from you in whatever way they can without being murdered, wtf do you think. How is that answer not obvious? Sure, people's (women's AND men's) instinct to mate with powerful genes is a strong drive, but NOTHING is as strong an instinct as the survival instinct. You threaten her survival and she will get away from you however possible -- kill you in your sleep, put you in jail, …	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 11:12 PM
2	10 Year Field Report...Learn From My Mistakes. Learn from My Pain. OK, then I recant. I misunderstood your statements in the story and below. I thought you said she got the house because you didn't want to take on the mortgage liability and she kept it. I also thought you said she was paying you even though she has primary custody of the kids. NO ONE should ever be paying a mortgage for a house they are no longer living in after a divorce, IMO. It's just gross. I work with a guy who was divorced 5 years ago when his wife decided she was sick of being a mom and …	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 10:43 PM
2	10 Year Field Report...Learn From My Mistakes. Learn from My Pain. Well, look, I am piecing together from what you've said. You said she was paying you when you moved out and that's why you agreed. You said she has primary custody but that you should get more than what she's paying you. And you said you didn't want the liability associated with the mortgage on the house which is why she took the house and the mortgage. This all leads me to the obvious conclusion that she was the primary breadwinner. Which is fine. I just don't think you should rationalize that …	/r/TheRedPill	07/06/16 03:57 AM
1	Finally heard something anti-TRP that I must say stumped me . . . Totally depends on your personality type. People say the same shit to me, because I've always liked being independent and never wanted a family...they told me I'd change my mind. Yet I find I like being alone even MORE the older I get. Though honestly I have never in my life experienced the feeling of "loneliness" and don't really relate to it, conceptually. If you like being alone when you're young you'll like it when you're older. If you get lonely when you're young you'll get lonely when you'…	/r/TheRedPill	06/06/16 10:46 PM
3	10 Year Field Report...Learn From My Mistakes. Learn from My Pain. Look dude, this sounds hellish and I sort of feel bad for you, however, it's also hard to trust your one-sided version when you've completely hidden the ball about this scenario. You not only married a woman more than 5 years older than you, but a woman who makes most of the money and is the primary breadwinner. You're trying to make it sound like she's divorce-raping you when if you read closely, it's apparent that you're actually pissed that she isn't paying YOU more money...and that even thou…	/r/TheRedPill	06/06/16 10:34 PM
4	Just curious why society thinks it is OK to shame older men who have relationships with younger women? OK, put it this way, Donald Trump is so unattractive that he literally has to offer women access to billions of dollars in order to get them. You do realize that most women fuck men they find attractive for free? Trust me, no woman is banging D. Trump for free. Tiger Woods is good looking and athletic in addition to a hundred millionaire. As for your other examples, you provided a list of men who became famous and rich for being incredibly good-looking. They're all now riding off the fumes of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 03:21 AM
2	If your SO allowed you to bang other people on the side, would you? You should have made people state the length of their current relationship (or longest monogamous relationship) along with their responses, because otherwise they don't tell us much. Anyone who hasn't been monogamous/living together for at least a couple years has no idea what they're talking about and doesn't realize how bored they'll eventually get. Someone who's in the honeymoon phase who claims they wouldn't cheat even if they could is making a meaningless statement as most people feel this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 03:07 AM
2	[Discussion] Direct TRP Analog from Women's POV Difference is that some men had the luxury, through fantasies peddled by their parents or religion or consumer media, of believing that they had the luck for the opposite sex to be non-self-interested and nicer than they were. Most women never had such luxury and have had it drilled into them since birth that the men they're attracted to are unfaithful sluts who can't keep it in their pants (which is true). Interesting that RP men seem to blame women for not living up to the myth, rather than th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 02:45 AM
5	Just curious why society thinks it is OK to shame older men who have relationships with younger women? Because when people think about a young woman who only has a few brief, precious years to enjoy her hotness (and like 70 years of being a non-hot human), and they see her squandering it away on fucking some old dude, it upsets them. She's throwing away something valuable in exchange for something that is not valuable, likely without realizing it because she also happens to have no life experience. It's the same feeling you get if you see a super attractive, cool, high status dude with a super un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/16 12:08 AM
1	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? Ha, true!	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/16 10:25 PM
1	Who are all these moron women telling men all of the things theyve done sexually with other men? There are lots of women that are morons, that's really all you need to know. Most people aren't smart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 02:57 AM
2	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Yes, there is a big variation in men as far as how youth-oriented they are. I would say that any woman who gets with a guy who is really into youth is doing so at her serious peril, unless she's planning on it being short-term. But there are plenty of guys who look to date closer to their age range. If RP were right about everything, Brad Pitt and George Clooney would not have married "post-wall" almost 40 year old women, they would have married 18 year old porn stars. Because they could have al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 02:47 AM
1	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Hate to tell you this but I am (obviously) a super strident bitch, and men fall all over themselves for me. And all my sweet cookie-baking friends can't figure out why every man loves me and they keep getting dumped or cheated on. Seriously, being a bitch has never stopped a man from loving or chasing a woman in the history of the world, I bet. Watch what men do, not what they say. They say they want nice girls then go walking on their knees obsessing over hot bitches. And P.S. anger is a sign o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 11:54 PM
2	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Yes there have always been rare and exceptional women who went totally against the grain of society and all social norms. But they are few and far between. We have never seen an advanced society where it is just the NORM for women to hold as much or more economic power as men, as is emerging right now. And there are and will be world-rocking consequences to that. Clearly a lot of the dudes at RP can't deal with it. Just imagine for a second a world where 99% of men had no money or much, much les…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 02:07 AM
2	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? OK, but surely you realize that the vast majority of people make major compromises on these types of things in order to have children. Precisely because they really want them and they consider it one of the most important if not THE most important thing in life. They would rather have kids than be financially secure, if only those two alternatives are presented. So the fact that you haven't felt the need to make these compromises shows you don't really want them, to me. It's something you'll tak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 02:00 AM
0	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Agree this is a lot closer to real female RP than whatever the hell is going on over at RPW. That sub seems like a whole bunch of women trying desperately to convince themselves that when their tits are sagging down to their waist that somehow their RP husband will so appreciate all the cookies they baked that he won't notice. They're dreaming. Look you're not wrong here. Though what it would do is cause a nuclear arms race in distrust and competition between the sexes. Frankly there is some por…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 01:56 AM
1	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Lol!! This is the first time in my life that anything related to RP has actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that. :) Sorry... the question is hilarious, and the fact that I think you are serious is even moreso. You're delightful. Let me say that I don't think you're likely to start a popular social movement that advises women to take up with obese men who don't change their clothes. :) But I'll read whatever you write, because your voice is so interesting for a woman and I like your ques…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 01:49 AM
1	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Certainly there are some people who are more motivated (or I should say, de-motivated) by guilt than others. Also some people are more likely to believe they'll be caught. I noticed, for instance, that you assumed being caught. Otherwise, there would be no pain or damage beyond your own guilt. Other people would assume NOT being caught. I agree with you that there are definitely variations in personality and how much one fears exposure and is prone to guilt. Though I also maintain that most long…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 01:42 AM
1	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? That's true but just argues even more for a younger woman, to compensate for his deteriorating sperm. The older a man or woman gets, the more beneficial it is at a physical genetic level, if they're going to reproduce, to do so with a much younger partner. Of course, past 45 or so, it isn't an option for women to have children without IVF, while men still can. Though there are not too many young women interested in mating with a man 15 or 20 years older, not unless he's offering MAJOR compensati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 01:17 AM
3	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? I don't understand how you have been on this earth for 50 years and have not yet figured out whether or not you want kids. In fact, I would say you pretty clearly do NOT want kids, or you would have realized you wanted them and had them by now. Perhaps you are just bored or the idea of mortality makes you want to pass on a genetic legacy, but I would say that's different from actually wanting kids. Don't you think when there are things you actually want, you know it and go out and get them or ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 01:12 AM
2	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? Younger people are more attractive, period. Men and women. Men's peak physical attractiveness is probably about 25-28 while women's is about 20-24. But no getting around the fact that people look worse the older they get (unless the lose weight or have other interventions like plastic surgery etc). Older people are not, I find, more mature than younger people. Emotionally I don't see much difference. Older people are, however, wiser and more jaded and more beaten down by life and humbled. Which …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:56 AM
2	Whats your opinion thought on age difference? Outpace her in what manner? Most 45 year olds are unattractive, it is a small minority of both men and women who keep it together at that age. As far as endurance, stamina, energy, I also see no differences. However, men certainly complain about aging a hell of a lot more. Most guys in their 40s mention or bitch about it constantly where I hardly ever hear women in their 40s even bring it up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:49 AM
1	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Sorry, I think I misunderstood you. So you're saying you would only advise a 40+ year old woman to marry an older guy if she wanted a last-minute baby? Again, that would only make sense if she didn't have any money. Otherwise, it would be better to have a younger, healthier, more energetic man as the father of your children, not some old codger! Women worry WAY too much about being dumped. I am convinced that no woman is actually attracted to men more than 5 years older, it's just low self estee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:23 AM
0	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? I don't really relate to worrying about such long-term issues. When you're a 60 year old woman, no one will want to have sex with you whether they are 40, 60, or 80. That's the truth. They might masturbate with your body but that's the not the same as real desire. The solution is to (1) have your own money, and (2) invest long-term in friendships. Women who trade on their sexual allure for security are not in a good position long-term. And trust me, there are NO women as bitter and unhappy with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:16 AM
1	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? I disagree, I think people are largely loyal based on their options. After the first few honeymoon years, anyway. Most 40+ men do NOT have younger girls offering them sex or even noticing they're alive, and/or they are terrified of the consequences of getting caught, but that's about the only thing preventing them from cheating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:07 AM
2	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? If anything, men seem to get even more youth-obsessed the older they get. Probably because they subconsciously know they need young eggs to compensate for their deteriorating sperm-making abilities. So a guy who starts out very focused on youth when he's 30 will be even more obsessed with 20 year olds when he's 45. Again, I have seen this many times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:06 AM
2	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Exactly right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/16 12:04 AM
5	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Idk, it is only very recently in history that we have women who have bona fide made their own independent fortunes, not just from marriage or inheritance and family connections. And the ones we do see seem to act almost precisely like men. Especially the real rags to riches millionaire women...new money is always more flashy/vulgar/excessive with how they present in public...they are totally going for boytoys. See Jennifer Lopez, Madonna, Halle Berry...all with super hot models in some cases hal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/16 10:47 PM
5	Q4 RP men: If 24 is the wall for LTR and 30 the wall for any relationship how do women have it easier? Why on earth would she want to be in an LTR with an older guy if she makes her own money? Literally the only reason for that would be because she doesn't have money, older 50+ men are as repulsive to younger women as vice versa. I am late 30s, make money, and trust me it could not be easier to (1) fuck young hot 20s guys, (2) get 30s and 40s guys to want to LTR you, and (3) who cares about 50+ guys I would never consider that. The biggest things that will bring you down and make life hard for yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/16 10:37 PM
2	If she's smart, Watch Your Six Ha,that's funny you're a comic. I guessed you were probably providing her the value of being funny. That explains it even better...if you're a comic and she's a lawyer you're probably both in the top 2% of IQ, it's not like she has a big pool to pick from...you have the added benefit of being socially aware and funny, while tons of high IQ guys are socially retarded. And for both of you, conversing with less intelligent people is likely painful. I wouldn't apply too much of TRP to this situation…	/r/TheRedPill	06/05/16 12:50 AM
1	If she's smart, Watch Your Six Well, sure, a smarter person is generally better at achieving their own aims, whatever those may be. Though I've known plenty of female lawyers, engineers, and scientists that are much less emotional and more logic-driven than your average man... tendency towards logic vs emotion occurs in overlapping bell curves for men and women, and women in those occupations will tend to fall on the male side of the curve. I think sometimes you guys on this board forget that LOTS of men are totally emotional…	/r/TheRedPill	06/05/16 12:12 AM
1	If she's smart, Watch Your Six Well, if they divorced, she's the one who would be paying alimony, so I don't really see what the big risk is. In marriage the risk is always on the higher-earning partner, and divorce is a way for the lower-earning partner to suck away their assets. Usually the high-earner is the man, but in cases where it's the woman, the risk of divorce falls on her just the same. I say this as a woman who paid alimony myself, courts don't care who the higher-earner is. Hell, in the future we're going to have…	/r/TheRedPill	06/05/16 12:05 AM
14	If she's smart, Watch Your Six You don't need to wonder so much. For smart chicks who make a lot of money and look good, men don't have any utility to them other than for sex, for laughs, and for moving heavy objects. Their physical body in other words. All of her other needs -- for intellectual stimulation, emotional connection, etc -- can be met by colleagues, friends, and family in a much more secure fashion than a romantic partner. So for a chick like this, the main thing she wants is your dick, your muscles, and your sen…	/r/TheRedPill	05/05/16 12:01 AM
1	I royally fucked myself over. Learn from my mistake. IUDs are pretty much fail safe and now that they're becoming so popular I would imagine that the unwanted pregnancy rate goes way down. It's five years of birth control you never have to think about. Just confirm she really has one. I think guys can usually feel a portion of the string way in there, but maybe not. If you don't feel anything then make her show you the receipt or box, women are supposed to keep it so they remember when to change it out. Or have her call her doctor to ask about the…	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 11:55 PM
2	I royally fucked myself over. Learn from my mistake. Totally agree. The Dr makes a stray comment during a routine exam saying something like "oh, your cervix is hard to find" or whatever and in her mind she dramatizes it to the max and turns it into "I can't get pregnant". I have even known women who were convinced they couldn't couldn't get pregnant for the mere reason that they hadn't accidentally gotten knocked up (not when trying but trying to avoid) by their early 20s. Part of that might be because sex ed in this country is so hysterical and …	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 11:54 PM
1	The harsh truth about guys that get hot girls which most of you miss (or deny) and would be foolish to ignore, if that is what you want. Because they can't accept the truth that people make efforts to attract mates, like every other species in the animal kingdom. And its' really no different than making efforts for anything else you want (a job, money, whatever). They prefer to live in their preferred ego-driven fantasy where they only ever do exactly what they like and hot pussy just rains down on them without compromise. Best education on human psychology, mating practices, TRP, and experience with women a dude could possibly g…	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 12:40 AM
1	The harsh truth about guys that get hot girls which most of you miss (or deny) and would be foolish to ignore, if that is what you want. Who wants to spend their life working in an office? No one. At least, not anyone with a modicum of a personality. People do it for the money, status, and security. Likewise, you do shit to attract the opposite sex. Everything is for a reason. You just don't want to accept that people do shit they wouldn't otherwise do to attract mates, doing shit you wouldn't otherwise do to earn money isn't any different, your perspective seems a bit self-aggrandizing to me. All animals make efforts to attract …	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 12:37 AM
2	Sexual attraction and relationship attraction Being extremely intelligent and socially adept is alpha because those are valuable traits that are almost entirely inborne and genetically heritable. IQ and extroversion/sociability are static over life and indicate genetic predisposition. So a woman should want his babies because those babies are more likely to be smart, socially adept, and successful. The OP is making the point that sexual attraction is elicited by genetic traits that would give the woman strong and socially successful babies,…	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 12:21 AM
56	I royally fucked myself over. Learn from my mistake. OK, guys need to understand that literally NO doctor would EVER tell a woman in her teens/20s/30s that she "couldn't get pregnant" unless she actually was missing a uterus or ovaries. And that goes double if she's never actually tried to get pregnant. Otherwise, it would literally never happen. Because it is extremely rare to have any condition that makes pregnancy completely impossible, if she still has a uterus and ovaries. And the liability for making that kind of statement if it isn't true? …	/r/TheRedPill	03/05/16 12:03 AM
10	I royally fucked myself over. Learn from my mistake. Yes, you're a total hypocrite. What you're saying is that it's immoral, but if it was your life that going to get fucked up, you'd avail yourself of the option. But everyone else should be stuck with the baby even if it fucks up their life. Literally the whole reason that every person who has ever had an abortion did it is because they didn't want their life to be fucked up. Therefore, your entire belief that it is "immoral" is complete worthless crap if you admit you would commit the act if it …	/r/TheRedPill	02/05/16 11:59 PM
3	Girls will do things anything for you if you're her chad and be lazy as fuck if your not dangerous. There is no surgery for this so she is definitely lying. WTF would any woman who actually had that problem tell a guy she's not even hooking up with? Of course it was a lie. So you wouldn't think she was having sex with her boyfriend and so you'd think she had a super tight pussy, that's pretty much all that disease is. Once she realized it didn't make you try harder to get into it, she had her friend tell you about her fake surgery. I'm sure she is banging her boyfriend and she's obviously tryi…	/r/TheRedPill	28/04/16 11:55 PM
3	Y-Chromosome analysis of 1200 men from 26 different populations shows half of all European males descended from a single 'king' around 4000 years ago People seem to forget (or maybe they've never read about) the breathtaking brutality that occurred around the time of the development of civilization...mass genocide, human sacrifice, and creation of eunuch slave classes by conquering societies was the norm. These kinds of genetic results are exactly what we should expect to see in the period following agriculture and adoption of technology, i.e. the birth of civilization, which was really fucking brutally awful. As soon as a tribal society deve…	/r/TheRedPill	26/04/16 09:39 PM
16	Stop trying to be someone women need; Be someone they want No women are not better or more selfless or more moral or more pure than men. No women don't like being chaste and having to marry a schlub and serve him, they want excitement and novelty and hot sex just like men. Women just had to do that because they had no other choice. Yes, this is what feminists have been saying since the 60s. Good fucking lord, unbelievable it has taken 50 years for this to sink in. Newsflash: women don't like being monogamous and chaste whilst men get to spread it around…	/r/TheRedPill	19/04/16 11:27 PM
1	Tune-up Tuesday is back! What is your #1 issue you need help with the most? Only two solutions: find other intellectual-minded people (this is hard) or alcohol (this is easy). I don't really see the point in forcing yourself to pretend to enjoy talking to people who are boring, know less than you, and don't provide you with any value.	/r/TheRedPill	17/03/16 12:08 AM
2	Why humor doesn't make them wet It is overly simplistic for our species, but the dominance hierarchy exists and alpha/beta seems to be a salient concept for people, especially guys who are just learning bio-psych explanations for things. One would get totally different answers analogizing mating to wolves (only the alpha male and alpha female get to mate and the rest of the pack serve those two), versus lions (tournament species with harems), versus hyenas (female alphas), versus eagles (monogamous pairs with mutual child-rear…	/r/TheRedPill	15/03/16 11:49 PM
3	Why humor doesn't make them wet You've got to be kidding me, funny guys do VERY well with women and bat WAY above their league based solely on looks/body/status. Show me two guys who look the same and have the same status and the funny one will get the chick every single time. Most of the time he'll get the chick over a better looking higher status guy, too. Fugly out of shape stand up comedians clean up with the ladies. No, humor doesn't get anyone wet, but it does make people enjoy themselves and want to be around a person m…	/r/TheRedPill	14/03/16 11:44 PM
2	3rd date F-close: Younger woman asks me "what took you so long?" Definitely. 90 minutes is WAAAYYYY too long and it just says "old guy who can't come", not that he's a better lover. Women complain to each other all the time about guys lasting too long, not the other way around, this is some weird myth left over from the 50s or something. Here's the deal: Women don't come just from fucking, so whether you do it 5 or 50 minutes is not going to make a difference. More positions etc makes it fun but doesn't increase the chance of her coming unless you're doing so…	/r/TheRedPill	14/03/16 11:25 PM
3	And She Won't Get an Abortion: A DT Guide What living creature doesn't desire to reproduce? The tiny percentage that has actually evolved consciousness, rational thought, and the self-awareness to recognize their own best interests. Yes, 99.9999% of life is not self-aware and reproduces by instinct. Some humans have developed the self-awareness to be able to override primitive instincts and serve their own best interests, rather than the interests of their genes. I'm not sure who it is you think put "the system" in place, but human soci…	/r/TheRedPill	08/12/15 08:22 PM
2	How I am controlling my future, and the "possible" future of any offspring I have. It can be a depressing view of the world, but it is nonetheless true. The best antidote to getting depressed is to create a life that is so fun, enjoyable, and full of humor and pleasure that you can't help but be happy, even though you don't believe in some higher, ordered purpose. I used to be in your position, I didn't give in, and TRUST ME, in my 30s my life is awesome and that is mostly because I never had kids. Almost all my friends eventually gave in (even the ones who used to say they di…	/r/TheRedPill	08/12/15 05:20 AM
1	You Got a Stranger Pregnant: A Guide. Yes, the OP is very oriented towards being open to having the kid, and being an involved parent too. It goes without saying that no man without a vasectomy should be having casual sex with women who aren't at least open to abortion, if the man knows they don't want a kid. And it is much safer to choose women from more educated/affluent circles who have more to lose because they will pretty much always have an abortion in this circumstance. But still, people fuck up, and if it happens and you wan…	/r/TheRedPill	08/12/15 05:07 AM
3	How I am controlling my future, and the "possible" future of any offspring I have. Your reasons are all perfectly logical and reasonable and you're unlikely to change your mind if you have never had an inkling of desire for kids. However, the vast majority of people are programmed to desire children despite the fact that it is not in their best interests (only the interests of their genes), as it's a deeply programmed animal drive. They will simply not understand you, your feelings (or lack thereof in this case), and your values, so there's really no use taking their advice be…	/r/TheRedPill	03/12/15 05:40 AM
1	Reality of single mothers today Yup. Doesn't really bode well for society for the future. But I suppose we can just expect ever increasing numbers of incarcerated people.	/r/TheRedPill	03/12/15 04:58 AM
1	Reality of single mothers today OK, we don't disagree much after all. Though I don't personally care about whether or not part of me continues on once I die, if it isn't the experential part that I experience as "me". Certainly being a sperm donor or impregnating multiple women is a hell of a lot better from a reproductive standpoint than raising someone else's kid. Also it was a though "experiment", not a thought "test", so no such thing as a fail. And jail does not prevent one from having bastards, I'd warrant that men in ja…	/r/TheRedPill	03/12/15 12:53 AM
23	Maintaining Frame and Applied Results After 8 Months of The Anger Phase: Thank you, Red Pill. I am seriously not trying to rain on your parade gratuitously, I am giving you an honest warning in case you don't know: girls who volunteer to "manage" male sports teams are the hugest sluts out there. I really can't emphasize this enough. Cheerleaders are way down the slut list compared to women who actually manage male sports teams, though any hot chick who engages in a hobby comprising of admiring hot sweaty dudes is obviously some level of slut. But still. I have a friend who "manages" a fo…	/r/TheRedPill	03/12/15 12:46 AM
1	Reality of single mothers today But when you die, "you" will no longer exist. You will be gone and gone forever. However, if you have children your genes will still exist. So if you don't exist but your genes do, how can you say that you ARE your genes? You can't be the same thing because a thing cannot exist and not exist at the same time. Sure, you could not and would not exist without your genes. But that doesn't mean you're the same thing as your genes. It just means you're a result of your genes, not that you ARE your gen…	/r/TheRedPill	01/12/15 01:51 AM
1	Reality of single mothers today To be fair, you are also evolution's patsy if you have your own kids, regardless of whether or not you date a single mom. Since your gene's don't give a fuck about you and only use your body as a temporary replicating mechanism. Having and investing in children is in the interests of your genes, which use you as a tool and nothing more, and is not in your own best interests. It is well-documented that having children makes people less happy, so while it makes their genes "evolutionarily successf…	/r/TheRedPill	25/11/15 12:50 AM
11	Ask yourselves why is there a crisis of rape culture on american campuses? Actual rape is exceedingly rare. The rape hysteria comes from the confluence of five independent sources that end up working together to create the supposed "rape crisis": Sexually inexperienced and naive young women who are actually afraid of men because they don't have the experience yet to realize that despite their physical superiority and strength, men are not generally dangerous to women but are much more dangerous to other men. They are usually willing to be gentle with women but these yo…	/r/TheRedPill	08/10/15 05:01 AM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Yes I have read that rape causes orgasm a lot which is actually why it is so traumatizing, BC of the shame and disconnect between the woman's conscious values/intentions and how her body responds. I've tried to research this and all I can find is internet forum posts from raped women asking is this normal or confessing that they came from rape and now masturbate to it. I found nothing in the way of actual studies or analysis by the psych industry, which shows how taboo and untouchable of a subje…	/r/TheRedPill	08/10/15 04:10 AM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Likely BC you weren't living together and monogamous, or you're much higher than her in SMV and she's afraid to lose you.	/r/TheRedPill	08/10/15 03:14 AM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Yes that's pretty much right. Although to clarify, I don't go to the next man at 6 months, that's just when the sexual desire wears off. Usually the relationship will continue for another year or two based on the fumes of the initial attraction plus the intellectual/emotional bond before it is dead enough to go through the trauma of breaking it off.	/r/TheRedPill	08/10/15 03:12 AM
3	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies That's a very fascinating way to understand empathy in autistic leaning versus psychopath leaning people. I have no understanding of the latter but I would say with the former they can be empathetic without sentiment because it is principle based. I know for me my sympathies are mostly utilitarian so I extend empathy to whatever/whoever is most powerless and suffers most (generally animals), rather than those who are most closely related to me which is how many neurotypicals seem to divvy out em…	/r/TheRedPill	08/10/15 01:00 AM
2	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies On the hypnotherapy thing, I tried that with respect to one man, my ex-husband. I vowed to be with him forever and then after 5 years of monogamy the idea of sex with him literally was as gross to me as having sex with one of my parents, and I left him, and I felt years of crushing guilt and frankly still do. I will never forget when we were separated and I had a new boyfriend he sent me a text that said "all you care about is his dick but mine makes you want to projectile vomit" and it crystall…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 11:56 PM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Guilt is rather a different emotion because it's more a matter of principle than it is a base emotion. You feel guilty when you violate one of your own principles for yourself, it's essentially disappointment at yourself. The animalistic, base emotions, which arise and are felt forcefully as adrenaline surges, are anger, jealousy, territoriality, fear, and lust. All animals feel them. Autistic spectrum type people are somewhat more like computers than like animals and therefore they operate more…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 11:38 PM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Look you make a good argument and at times in my life I've agreed with you and argued the same position (i.e. when I was with the man I would marry and when I was married and trying to convince myself of the reasons I would stay married). I have in fact tried, very, very hard, to stay with and be attracted to one person. I have failed. Every time. After a few years. Perhaps you are correct that that is just evidence that I suck and am weak-willed. I allow for that possibility. But I don't know, …	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 11:03 PM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies I don't think you understand autism spectrum type people. They are generally more gentle people than neurotypicals...just flat affect, logical, and not sentimental. More willing to state literal truth than illusions to prop up ego or gain status. Spock is the opposite of a pyschopath. I have zero desire for things like vengeance or harm upon others. I just don't like dishonesty, lies, fake smiles, sentimentality, status games, and all the self-aggrandizing tales people tell about themselves and …	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 10:45 PM
6	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies As to the three year thing, yes, that's about how long most of my relationships have lasted (well, more like 2.5 probably to be very specific). But the desire for sex starts dying at 6 months and is basically totally gone by a year. Depends how often you hang out and whether you live together -- the more time you spend and if you move in quickly then the sex will die faster. But the relationship goes on for much longer because of the emotional and intellectual bond and because of hopes and socia…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 10:23 PM
0	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies I am not borderline I am basically the opposite of that which is overly logical and non-emotional/borderline aspergers. The weird thing about being spergy if you're a woman is that it actually makes you MORE successful with men because your personality is more like theirs and you can get along with them better. Basically the opposite of how it works for men. Although I am more honest/blunt/logical than most women and am an outlier on that point, my sexual imperative and behavior is basically the…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 09:40 PM
0	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies I have masturbated and fantasized just plenty in my life, thanks. Do you really think that is an adequate substitute for a real encounter with a real person? It's an entirely different thing. Though I do commend your self control. Most don't have it. Also, I don't hold men to standards I don't hold myself to. I don't expect them to not act in their own self-interest or in accordance with their desires, almost all of them do, given an attractive opportunity. Hardly any married men would NOT cheat…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 08:49 PM
1	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Yes the one I was referring to was extremely good-looking...the problem with a needy alpha is that they don't express their emotional insecurity when you go away for the weekend by sending you an "I miss you text", they express it by flipping the fuck out, yelling at you, forbidding you to go, and storming out and slamming the door when you tell them you're going away for the weekend. The needy alpha I was with for several years did keep me wet but we had explosive swearing/name-calling/breaking…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 08:44 PM
0	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Needy Alpha is Blackdragon's previous term for "Alpha 1.0". It means a possessive, authoritarian, angry, controlling, jealous, guys-guy alpha, or a "classic" alpha. The guy that everyone is afraid of and everyone kisses his ass and submits to him. The type that will tower over you, make veiled physical threats, storm out on you or break things, etc if he even gets the smallest hint or sniff of another dude looking at you. Many top alphas behave this way -- this would be the athlete type -- altho…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 08:36 PM
6	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies I've considered this before and think there might be something to it. Wish there was some research/data available. Of course, no researcher can touch it with a ten-foot pole if they want grant money because it's not even acceptable to consider the hypothesis that women aren't always made for long-term monogamy. Makes perfect sense though. In caveman times, if you were with a guy and fucking him 3 times a week for months and you WEREN'T pregnant after a few months, it would be horrible for your r…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 08:20 PM
15	Let a woman's honest perspective destroy your Blue Pill Fantasies Sorry but it's real, I wrote it. Lots of guys SAY they just want hookups but in my experience it isn't actually true. After the first time they want more and then after more they get feelings. I can only think of one example from my life of a guy I hooked up with who didn't pursue a relationship afterwards and that's because he was already married (which I did not know/he lied about). If it helps people to understand this, guys see me as "relationship material." That's because I don't have kids,…	/r/TheRedPill	07/10/15 08:03 PM
20	Law Enforcement Officers guide to dealing with women This is the most important thing. False rape accusations happen when a girl is ashamed after the fact bc she's been pumped and dumped. So if that's what you're doing, make sure to at least send a bunch of post-sex texts saying how much you enjoyed it and how awesome she was and get her to respond back and forth a few times saying the same and saying how she wants to do it again. If you can mention something like "omg I loved when you took control and were sucking my dick...damn girl you blew my …	/r/TheRedPill	15/09/15 02:52 PM
3	The Myth of the Respectable Woman But you should be happy if "shitty" people don't have kids, no? Less competition for resources for your kids. No one has kids for the "good of society"...they do it because they want to, for themselves. Or they don't do it at all. Desiring to pass on your genes and create progeny with your own legacy is in a sense one of the most ultimately narcissistic acts there is (not that I discourage it). But everyone's self interested, you'll never convince someone to reproduce merely for social good any …	/r/TheRedPill	15/09/15 02:42 PM
6	The Myth of the Respectable Woman Yes, the women in my family are seemingly unbreeding themselves out of existence. There are several PhDs, scientists, and very high earners, yet most don't intend to have children, and only one had one and done. They're all attractive and never want for boyfriends or proposals, they just don't want to have kids. I don't think there's anything to be done about it...a high IQ mind with strong intellectual interests is unlikely to be interested in the mindnumbingly boring and tedious day to day rep…	/r/TheRedPill	15/09/15 06:39 AM
1	Woman complains in TwoX how her ex LTR was disgusted about her riding the CC. They conclude that he is abusive for having standards and making her feel bad about her past, and mostly for ruining the fun of riding the CC for her. I've read plenty about RP, evolutionary biology, and similar topics for many years, I don't need to read the sidebar. My statements are disagreements, not lack of information. I did not say asking one's number showed insecurity and would thus LOWER one's SMV, I said it was a tell of already having lower SMV. Therefore, if one is trying to ape having a higher SMV, it's better not to ask. You can easily guess a simple n-count range without asking anyway, and unless she's a moron she's going to lie…	/r/TheRedPill	15/09/15 02:09 AM
1	Woman complains in TwoX how her ex LTR was disgusted about her riding the CC. They conclude that he is abusive for having standards and making her feel bad about her past, and mostly for ruining the fun of riding the CC for her. He probably wasn't lying but didn't care at the time. In order for men to successfully propagate their genes, they needed to enact the following sexual strategy, which is a hierarchy -- in other words, each subsequent goal is irrelevant until and unless the previous goals have been accomplished: Get his sperm near an egg by having sex with a woman Increase the chances that his sperm will actually fertilize said egg by having sex with said woman regularly Increase the chances that his sperm will …	/r/TheRedPill	14/09/15 11:07 PM
1	Woman complains in TwoX how her ex LTR was disgusted about her riding the CC. They conclude that he is abusive for having standards and making her feel bad about her past, and mostly for ruining the fun of riding the CC for her. Yes, this is why women never bust the social myth that they're more "complicated", mysterious, unknowable, and complex than men, while men are "simple". Women are in fact just as simple but it does not benefit them for men to know that. Men fall for this because they don't realize how alike to them women actually are. Knowledge is power. The less people know about you, the better. The more you know about other people, the better. Self-divulging is an emotional indulgence and is not in anyone's b…	/r/TheRedPill	14/09/15 10:55 PM
12	The Myth of the Respectable Woman True, though only because you're using the term "feminine" as interchangeable with "womanly" or "woman", which it is not. Certain behaviors induce others to be sympathetic and take care of someone: acting helpless, juvenile, innocent, wide-eyed, etc. Puppies and children do it naturally. Women do it as a performance. There are very, very, very few women who are naturally anything like that...I am thinking about it and I cannot call to mind any examples of real women I've ever known like that. Fe…	/r/TheRedPill	14/09/15 09:10 PM
4	The Myth of the Respectable Woman This is an interesting point as far as respect generally flowing up and love down. However, love can flow up as well, since small children love their parents very deeply. In adults that same feeling can be invoked in worshipful love, either of another person one looks "up" to or of an imaginary person such as a god, celebrity, other idealized fantasy. All human love derives ultimately from the pathways that were originally designed to bond mother and child...paternal love, platonic love, and rom…	/r/TheRedPill	14/09/15 08:40 PM
1	Met a former slut turned Red Pill mom while hiking Lol, they've given their daughter a "hard deadline" to get married...as if they have any control over that. Why was mom so regretful anyway? Sounds like everything turned out just fine for her. Unless she's saying she wished she had married someone else besides her husband and had different kids.	/r/TheRedPill	12/09/15 05:52 PM
1	The State of 20 Something Women As a matter of fact I would very much like to die in this manner as opposed to all the alternative ways of dying.	/r/TheRedPill	12/09/15 02:07 AM
2	The State of 20 Something Women It would not bother me if you did because I would never be aware of it. It would bother the people who love and care about me very much. And I suppose it might make some people who don't like me at all happy. I care about 100 million people I don't know dying because it will create a negative subjective experience, both on them while they die, if they were in pain or afraid, and on the other remaining living people who loved them and cared about them. Neither of these things apply to an unwanted…	/r/TheRedPill	12/09/15 02:04 AM
1	The State of 20 Something Women What exactly is the non-religious argument for caring one way or the other about the survival of a non-sentient being that has never experienced life, has no developed nervous system, can't think or feel, has no interests, and no one cares about it or knows it? I can see caring if it's YOUR progeny and you care about passing on your genes, but why should you care, absent a religious impulse, if this fetus is not related to you? No one else cares about it and it has no interests of its own yet, a…	/r/TheRedPill	12/09/15 12:57 AM
0	The State of 20 Something Women That's your personal feeling about your own life but clearly millions of people disagree with you or suicide would not be one of the leading causes of death. I had a great mother/father/childhood but I have no feelings one way or the other about her carrying me to term rather than aborting me...I was not conscious then as I am now...as a fetus I had no interests and therefore they could not have been thwarted by being killed. Besides, while I did get a shot at life and a very nice life at that, …	/r/TheRedPill	12/09/15 12:51 AM
2	The State of 20 Something Women I'm curious why an RP man would care whether or not women have abortions, unless it's based on a religious view. If she didn't have the abortions she would have been having crappy kids, likely just like her, that she didn't want and wouldn't have raised well. There are already way too many people like this and it's a self-perpetuating cycle. Besides, her now non-existent children aren't there to suck up resources and compete with your kids. I don't see why anyone would have the slightest interes…	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 10:17 PM
2	Defining (and Destroying) Your Code "Three lies we all tell ourselves to get through the day: I am a good person. I can control my life. The future will be better." I have never had any of these beliefs (wasn't raised with any religion), and it's been one of my missions as an adult to try to convince people that they can accept the truth and reject these falsities without wanting to kill themselves. I have mostly failed on this mission. I have met only a tiny handful of people who fully accept that these statements are false, and …	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 09:21 PM
1	[FR] On Hookers and TRP Besides, if she doesn't come you'll just leave her wanting more. Orgasm satiates her. Contrary to popular belief, a real orgasm will knock a woman out and she'll get extremely sleepy afterwards, just like a man. So there's another potential tell: if she becomes comatose immediately afterwards, it was likely real. If she is still horny and touching you and wriggling around and cuddling and kissing, it's much more likely it was fake.	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 05:34 PM
4	[FR] On Hookers and TRP In any event, it doesn't matter. If she is faking, it means she cares and wants to please you, so it shouldn't concern a man whether her orgasm is fake or real, unless he is truly trying to just do something nice "for her", akin to giving her a massage. Beyond that, it should only concern him if she is not bothering to fake it.	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 05:28 PM
1	[FR] On Hookers and TRP Disagree. Women can certainly fake muscle spasms, contractions, shaking, and shuddering. And any woman with experience with her real orgasms would certainly include the muscle spasms in her performance when faking. I have never had a man detect a fake orgasm, including men who had ample personal experience with both my real and fake ones. The only way to detect a woman faking an orgasm is to hook her up to an fMRI and look at what's happening in her brain, or perhaps to place electrodes on her s…	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 05:27 PM
5	[FR] On Hookers and TRP Women fake orgasms because it makes the man's experience better, makes him think she's better in bed, and therefore makes him feel more attached and bonded to her. No guy who's had sex with a woman who doesn't (seem to) come is going to think she's the best lay he's ever had. Faking orgasms is a trick to increase her sexual value in his eyes and make him more addicted to sex with her. And women fake it much, much, much more than they ever admit even to each other. They fake it most with high val…	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 03:32 PM
6	[FR] On Hookers and TRP Also, now that I think of it, the hottest girl I knew in college was a stripper with an n-count of >40 and she is in fact now a total minivan-driving soccer mom of 3 in an elite zipcode who spends her days doing pilates and shuttling her kids, and her husband has NO idea of her past. However, what does it matter? Him giving a shit about her previous sex industry work is out-moded primitive wiring that's irrelevant in the modern world. What would be the difference if she hadn't worked shaking her…	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 04:53 AM
13	[FR] On Hookers and TRP Hookers understand the SMP like no other women because they're at the top of it, similar to how Chads understand it. A woman who isn't at the top of the SMP won't be able to make a living as a hooker -- she might be able to give $20 blowjobs to score her next stash of drugs but she will not be able to make good money. Men's sexual imperative is not to spread their seed to fertile women but to sexually monopolize fertile women, and since men know they can't sexually monopolize a hooker, she will …	/r/TheRedPill	11/09/15 04:36 AM
2	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? Introverted people who socialize regulalrly while buzzed will naturally develop game. In fact their game can become quite killer bc their natural analytical skills will teach them a lot of quick lessons once their inhibitions are lowered enough to be social and outgoing. I used to be shy and awkward before I started drinking and now I can pretty much destroy and dominate any social situation with a few drinks. The naturally extroverted people just become sloppy, loud, embarrassing, and annoying …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 02:22 AM
1	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? Yes. Much of male sexual success is simply attributable to sexual aggression. The guys who go for it succeed wildly as compared to the guys who hang back and wait for women to make a move or offer themselves, regardless of any other trait. I've known plenty of guys with little to nothing to offer in terms or looks, status, skills, or personality who succeed merely because they're sexually aggressive and aren't afraid of rejection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 02:12 AM
1	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? I don't know, I'm the opposite. I was very insecure and shy in my teens and 20s and thus preferred shy/timid men because they were safer. I am now much more secure and confident in my approaching the wall 30s, and really like dominant alpha guys, ones I would have been terrified of when I was younger. Then again I never wanted kids so maybe that's the distinction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 02:06 AM
3	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? Agree. It's been shown that most men have the wiring to have a sexual response to both dominant and submissive sexuality and even sexually dominant guys will typically get off on being dominated by a woman now and then. But the vast vast majority of women are wired solely for sexusl submission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 02:02 AM
1	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? I don't think sexual dominance/submission has much if anything to do with how shy or introverted one is. I've been with introverted non social guys who are super sexually dominant and vice versa. The vast majority of women want a sexually dominant guy. Shy and introverted women will appreciate those qualities in men but also may like a socially complementary mate who does the work of providing them with a social circle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 02:00 AM
1	how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys? Or he could just have a few drinks himself. The whole purpose of alcohol is basically to give shy, uptight people the liquid courage to make friends and mate. For regular, social extroverted people alcohol is a disaster, which sadly demotivates the shy cerebral types from drinking bx they see what jackasses non shy people turn into. You can tell a true introvert bc alcohol improves their personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 01:54 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Well I like both alcohol and marijuana so not sure where that puts me but I've never thought that things break down on those lines. As soon as the marijuana industry can legally get their money in the hands of politicians it will have state support just like alcohol does now. That's exactly what's happened in states that have opened up to legal MJ licenses. A state subject to rules of due process, public notice and comment, judicial review, and legislative enactment is hardly a mafia, that is si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/15 01:44 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Yes I know all about SBC and his theories of male systemizing it is one theory of autism but by no means accepted fact. In any event I am pretty close to the sperg side on the spectrum so almost all people strike me as irrational, illogical, emotional thinkers, both men and women. Yes 80% of spergy logical types are male. But the large chunk of most people and the bell curve of both genders still lands squarely in magical thinking lala land as far as I'm concerned. Trp does make perfect sense to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 10:26 PM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I agree that monogamy is certainly beneficial for males in the aggregate but for males in power it is polygyny, which requires getting rid of excess males by killing them, enslaving them, or at least sending them away and ousting them from the community like the Mormons do with their young men. I've always argued that marriage and monogamy benefit males yet most men disagree and only see the restrictions on them preventing them from having a harem. No one ever thinks of themselves as being the l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 10:14 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I've only found women to be marginally more superstitious than men in general, both genders are majority prone to magical thinking. It's true that there are more male scientific thinkers than women but it's hardly a "male" trait as it's a small minority of men and smaller minority of women who don't engage in magical thinking. In any event people enjoy horoscopes bc they're fun but no one actually changes their behavior or tries to control others with them. If you want to control others and get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 09:56 PM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? What we have is free and unregulated mating markets nowadays and free markets that don't feature redistribution and restrictions always end in the same dynamic, which is a winner take all outcome where those at the top who are most competitive capture all or mist gains and everyone else gets nothing. That can be observed in any truly open market without regulations against monopoly or the creation of unions or other regulation to create a more distributed outcome. The difference between the sexu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 08:01 PM
1	I'm a true feminist Absolutely agree. This sums it up well. It's all just power dynamics and people imaginary ideological constructs to rationalize their interests (which may include nice things happening to others too, just not at their expense).	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 07:22 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Don't really disagree except for your last sentence which remains to be seen and is still arguable. Male dominated society with conservative/traditionalist/religious values, which all serve the male sexual imperative, is worse than one with liberal/enlightened values that serves individual frreedoms rather than male sexual imperative.... That would've been a more specific statement of my argument. Trp and bp will argue about just where on that continuum they want to be but I posit that no one wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 07:17 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? They're one and the same...enforcing the brutal rules surrounding sexual access inherently requires religious myths of a scary god to make it work. Otherwise it isn't sustainable. The religion is a (necessary) tool to enforce and maintain sexual control. Violence is usually necessary too though sometimes religion alone will work for a while.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 07:09 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I'm not arguing that feminism provides freedom I agree with you that a high standard of living and technology is a necessary condition for feminism so the causation is the other way around. I chose ISIS not as a typical example of patriarchy but as the extreme and logical end point of a society where the male imperative is given free reign.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 07:01 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Yes but slaves and women were MOST people. Free men were the elite minority. Would you go back there is you had random chances of being born into any male or female role? Of course not. Your last question is an interesting one I'm sure most people would like to avoid. Same goes for today on a lesser level...do people want to give up their high standard of living so that the majority of impoverished people in the world don't have to perform virtual slave labor supporting their luxurious lifestyle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:58 PM
3	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Absolutely right. TRPers often deny that in the past and for most of history women had little power and give too much weight to the supposed inherent power of the pussy. Which actually has no inherent power at all if a man can just take it by force. Pussy only has power when coupled with the option to decide access (and even that is a very fleeting power and not a particularly strong one, as compared to actual power in the form of physical power and wealth).	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:46 PM
3	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? What I believe is that the male sexual imperative is to have exclusive sexual access to multiple/all fertile females. The only way to get that is to ensure women have no sexual access or control or options, and to eliminate all male competitors. The only way to prevent such female control and options is through either terror/death/violence/ rape or fundamentalist religious ideology and usually both. So inherently if a place DOES have full male control and no power or rights for women, it is also…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:40 PM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I agree with you except I think modern individual freedom from might=right is as much a result of technology as of the law. Yes, I want to expand my individual freedoms as much as possible for as many people as possible, and that requires a state and technology to happen. So interestingly what you are suggesting is that libertarians are really only concerned with liberty from the state, which in effect means liberty for the few and mighty. While liberals are concerned with liberty for the most p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:23 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I agree with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:17 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Yes, a feminized/liberal society is characterized by expansion of individual freedoms and lack of group allegiance, loyalty, obedience, and hierarchy. True. Which is why it requires technology to replace those things for preventing chaos or structural collapse...arguable whether that will work or not, time will tell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:16 PM
0	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I did not say anything about patriarchy this is the first time I've used that word. I said a masculinist society ie one where the male sexual imperative is being supported by totalvmale control. I know what patriarchy is and I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the logical end result of the male vs female sexual imperative being given free reign.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:10 PM
3	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Yes this is my thesis..a society fulfilling the male imperative, which means exclusive sexual access to multiple fertile women by males but zero sexual choice for females...requires either brutal violence and terror OR religious fundamentalist ideology and most likely both. And those societies are, at least to me, hell on earth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:08 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I agree that the men running male imperative societies aren't driven by a desire for them to be hellish or stamp out fun, they're driven to fertilize all women and prevent them from access to any other male, which requires a lot of death, terror, and enslavement to make happen. Thosevin charge are often quite happy to have fun, music, and pleasure for themselves but can't let anyone else have those things bc it leads to disorder and loosens their iron fist on keeping their women from access to o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 06:01 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I sometimes see TRPers imagining a society dedicated to the male sexual imperative being a good thing or advancing civilization...I don't think they consider that those societies are typically the most brutal and horrible of all. The societies they actually want are a blend of liberal/enlightenment values and animalistic/traditional ones, they don't really want to go full bore conservative, which is the male imperative taken to an extreme.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 05:55 PM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? See, I don't think they're murdering each other over empty desert, I think they're murdering each other over exclusive access to virgins/fertile women. I think that's literally the whole point of what they're doing, dressed up in an elaborate religious justification, as is usually done for humanity's basest and most animalistic impulses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 05:51 PM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Tibetan monks and Buddhists in general are an interesting exception I was thinking about yesterday. They're odd because they're not following any sexual/reproductive imperative at all. What I'm trying to drill down on here is that the logical end result of unrestrained male sexual imperative is to have sex with all fertile women and lock down that sexual access as exclusive. And the only way to do that is to kill all outsider males and take girls/women as property to be owned by men in power whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 05:46 PM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? No. In the 50s women could vote, drive, leave the house, go in public, learn to read, etc. All things they can't do in a society like that under Isis or Mormon fundamentalism where men hold total control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 05:56 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Ok well I don't disagree with you on this. Though I also think you don't disagree with me that all horrific, rape and genocide characterized societies are basically the male imperative taken to its logical extreme..and can be the non-surprising result when women have zero power. And I still think y'all would prefer the modern slutty times we have to virtually any true hardcore masculine imperative society, despite your protests...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 05:48 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Um, no . that's not what I'm saying at all. Societies where men gain TOTAL power over women are not very common. But those societies are hell on earth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 04:21 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? No I certainly don't think that. Men never had total control in those societies. More than they do in the modern west, but not total and utter control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 04:13 AM
3	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I do agree with this to a point. It's just that male-dominated societies have occurred in times/places that weren't unusually harsh...it always takes the force of religion by a charismatic leader to get people to hand over all their power like that, but it happens. Look at David Koresh or Mormon fundamentalists... they didn't live in particularly harsh environments but the first thing that those guys did was start fucking everyone's teenage daughters and imposing rules against fun and banishing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 03:00 AM
0	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? OK this is the only argument so far that I'm buying. But there are harsh environments, such as hunter-gatherers who literally live in the jungle with nothing but leaves covering their junk, that aren't anywhere close to this brutal. It takes a certain level of wealth and weapons before men can gain total and utter control over women, no? Similarly violent regimes have occurred in environments that aren't particularly naturally harsh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:57 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I agree. But that's still better than living in an ISIS world where you, your dad, and every other guy you know gets taken out to a field and executed so some ISIS guy can bang your junior high age sister after praying piously to his god, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:55 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? See I think religions are just rationalizations for controlling other people and gaining power anyway, so I don't see it that way. Plenty of other religions and cults have used religion as an excuse to start raping each other's 14 year old daughters, this is not exclusive to Islam.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:53 AM
6	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I'm not BP, I agree with RP on most things BTW. I just think TRP would be more credible if it admitted where it's full of shit. And the most glaring area to me is that societies where males get full power are brutal and awful and no TRP dude would actually want to live in one. A balance is what's desirable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:52 AM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I totally disagree about where in the cause-effect chain their dicks getting hard falls. Shocking coincidence that religions (Mormons, ISIS) always justify sleeping with 14 year olds who have no power, not old women. "God" tells men wielding religious power to do exactly what they want to do. I'm not arguing about the current mix in the US, I actually side with TRP on most issues. I just think they would have more credibility if they'd admit that societies with total male control are living nigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:50 AM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? OK this is a rational answer. Though I've thought TRP was supposed to apply just to Anglos and thought there were actually a lot of Asian TRPers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:46 AM
0	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? In instances where men gain complete power they pretty much always institute a regime of genocide, rape, and forcible marriage to teenagers. There are many examples now and throughout history that have nothing to do with Islam. They will use whatever ideology they have to justify why they suddenly get to rape 12 years olds and kill their dads and brothers, so long as they're not part of their group. I'd be fine blowing up the whole miserable lot of them to get rid of the problem so you won't get…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:45 AM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? Thanks, I make a shitload of money and pay the highest possible tax bracket so thanks for telling me the government pays for me, it does not. But I pay property taxes, pay for military men's salaries, and pay everyone else who lives off the government. I fully realize that society is awesome now but that's mostly because of technology IMO. Again I am not arguing things are perfect now, I understand and agree with plenty of RP ideas. I also think it may not be sustainable but we may also hit the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:41 AM
2	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? OK, I never wear high heels and this is all unrelated to my question. Do you disagree that in ISIS controlled areas men hold TOTAL POWER? Can you give me any examples of societies at any time in history where men held TOTAL, not just more, power that the society wasn't full of slavery, genocide, rape, forced child marriages, etc? And is that not worse than a society where your biggest complaint is just that people are too slutty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:38 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? I don't know, that was hundreds of years ago and there are no videos. I can only guess. I sure as hell wouldn't trade places. I would imagine it was pretty miserable for anyone who was a slave, a female, or in any way physically inferior or disabled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:35 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? OK but that's not the question. I'm not asking how we got here. I'm asking if you deny that a society where men have all POWER is literally hell on earth, and whether you'd really want to live in a place/time like that. There have been plenty of ISIS-like societies throughout history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:34 AM
1	Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth? OK I am not saying that men aren't responsible for the improvements of standards of living and technology that allows a feminine imperative society to exist peacefully and flourish. I'd probably agree with that but that isn't the question. I disagree that Japan, South Korea, etc are places where men have full control. Sure, more than the west, but women still have plenty of power, they run the households and husbands turn over their money to their wives, etc. When men have TOTAL power, what you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/15 02:33 AM
1	Q4BP: Sympathy for Sluts and Ugly Girls? You shouldn't, not really. As for the hypothetical complaints of Slutty Sally, if you've actually heard such things from girls, they were playing you for a sucker. I've never heard girls say things like that, but that's also because they wouldn't try such obvious lies on me because I'd call them on it. Those statements are just reflective of being lazy and the number one card women always play is the sympathy card. Girls know what guys like but if they don't have those things to offer, they stil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 10:34 PM
0	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. I agree not everyone can be top 10%. I'm not saying that. I'm saying the people who ARE top 10% are mostly people who work hard investing their money, time, and effort in in their looks (getting surgery is no picnic and requires you to make money to spend on that as opposed to other things). So the idea that it is just random chance is not true. It's like the argument about rich people, are they lucky or hard workers? Both. It is rare to be rich OR a top 10% hottie without expending much, much, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 09:53 PM
2	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You're very wrong about this. They ALL have nosejobs...Ryan Gosling, Tom Cruise, Chris Hemsworth, Patrick Demsky, Ryan Seacrest. All the actresses do too. The cartilage ones nose grows every year so noses get bigger, not magically smaller. If someone has a smaller nose at 30 than they did at 20 it's a nosejob, and celebrities can't hide it anymore bc the internet has before photos. Idk why its so hard to accept that most top 10% hot people are there bc they invest way more in their appearance. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 04:38 AM
3	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. I'm including gym time liftinf weights as party of the time devoted to appearance of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 04:31 AM
1	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Now that I'll agree with. I always make it clear if matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/15 04:12 AM
2	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. This is why men rate women as more attractive and not the other way around... if men made this level of effort, or women stopped the makeup and effort, both genders would find the other mostly not so great, as true beauty is very, very, very rare and mostly reserved for a couple fleeting years in teenagehood for like 1% of people: http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/makeup-before-and-afters#.bh7Y2pMW6	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 11:45 PM
4	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Also, I used to put makeup on my boyfriend when we'd go out as an experiment and EVERYONE would tell him how great he looked. No one could tell he had makeup on. You're a dumbass if you think you can't wear makeup that looks like no makeup. You do realize that Magic Mike and every other hot actor you've ever seen in a movie is wearing makeup don't you???	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 11:39 PM
5	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Honestly the good genes thing is something that I think ugly people say to console themselves for being lazy and/or unwilling to invest in their appearance and/or too dumb to figure out how to look better. You are very naive about what a difference effort makes, google what all your celebrities looked like before their nose jobs, that includes Tom Brady's wife Giselle and literally every movie star you know. Find me a celebrity without a nosejob and then tell me about genes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 11:37 PM
7	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. You are very wrong about this and I suspect you don't have much experience with hot people if you think this. Trust me, hot people spend a TON of time, effort, and money on their appearance. A ton. Non-hot people literally would be sickened if they knew. They also try to make it look effortless and lie about it because they want it to look natural so maybe that's why you don't realize it. It's not socially accepted to spend 2-3 hours a day on your appearance but that is exactly what virtually ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 11:34 PM
4	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Women also invest time, money, and attention on their appearance in a Gaussian distribution while men do not. Super hot chicks typically spend 2-3 hours a day on their appearance. Super fuggos often spend 2-3 minutes. But MOST women spend about an hour. In men, a very small percentage, like 5-15% depending on age and where you live, spend a LOT on their appearance...they work out an hour or two a day, tan, spend effort on their hair, spend a lot of effort buying clothes and putting on outfits, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 11:22 PM
5	CMV: Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Men find more women attractive solely because women spend way more time and effort fighting nature to look attractive. If men spent as much time as women did (which I predict they will in coming years), women would find roughly as many men attractive. The AVERAGE woman spends at least an hour a day on her appearance. Only maybe 5% or less of men do this. That 5% gets about the attention your average female does. I would love to see a graph showing how much time a person spends on their appearanc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 10:13 PM
2	TRP is a natural response I know they didn't know. I guess what I'm saying is that I have been lied to "all my life" in multiple ways...everyone has been...but I could always see through it and I'm not angry because the lies were not malicious. Mostly they were feel-good lies. I just feel pity and sometimes frustration at everyone else for believing them. Then again I was also the kid who stopped believing in Santa way before the other kids too. Don't you think there's a difference between a conscious, deliberate, malici…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 09:52 PM
1	TRP is a natural response Here's why the scenario doesn't make sense: why is Bob paying Frank so much? Apparently there is something about Frank that Bob really likes, because rather than keeping the money for himself he is paying Frank. So clearly Frank is providing some value to Bob that Jim is not. If Jim were smart and adaptable he would figure out what value Frank was providing to Bob and then provide the same. Because clearly Bob doesn't care about face time and the fact that Jim shows up early and leaves late. He …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/15 08:04 PM
3	Is the whole alpha widow concept how TRPillers describe women who just haven't got over their previous partners yet? It's actually far more common for men to have this problem than women, so it's probably projection. I don't know a single woman who's not over their ex, I know tons of guys still in love with their exes even after they're remarried or it's been years/decades. If one is with someone way above one's league then one should expect (1) to be dumped eventually, and (2) to have a hard time getting over it. That's all it comes down to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 11:43 PM
1	Are you afraid of getting old and dying alone ? This is fantastic and very clarifying. Made me realize how much I prefer doing those things alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 11:12 PM
1	Are you afraid of getting old and dying alone ? Both of my grandmas lived more than 15 years longer than their husbands, which isn't uncommon. So this question doesn't even make sense. Marriage doesn't prevent you from being alone...one of you will die eventually even if you're otherwise happy. The only reason people are afraid of being single is because at certain ages no one else is single so it's less fun. But clearly single is more fun than not single or people wouldn't wait as long as possible to "settle." When I was 29 and divorced, it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 07:12 PM
1	Have you ever met someone who possessed extreme sexual attractiveness and extreme intelligence? Every day when I look in the mirror. ;) I've known two other women like that my whole life. Total maneaters but very undercover about it of course. I've known three men like that. So it's pretty rare. Of course these people flock to big cities to compete with the best so you'll find more there. With the guys like this I've known, they were very successful with women and could take their pick but were not nearly as promiscuous as true slutty men...they tended to have very high standards for women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 07:02 PM
3	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? I'm not saying that guys in their early 20s are all good-looking compared to the ideal. I'm saying that as a group, guys in their early 20s will be better-looking than at any other point in their lives. If you think they're not good-looking at 23 then it's a real horror show at 43 or 63. Therefore it's easy for someone in their early 20s to think they don't care much about looks, because the only pool they're considering is already a (relatively) good-looking pool full of people in their physica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 06:28 PM
2	Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? If not, what alternatives do we have? Talk about it and point out people's biases and misconceptions in a cool, calm, detached way that doesn't provoke intellectual defensiveness. Most people, when presented with an argument that contradicts their beliefs, go into mental fight mode and just become further entrenched. That's why arguing doesn't change minds. Certainly denying the other side's valid points, downplaying their concerns, and exaggerating one's own and being hostile or militant does NOT work. The single greatest tool for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 02:23 PM
5	Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? If not, what alternatives do we have? It is truly surprising to me that there is anyone who does NOT realize that women engage in abuse just as much as men, when they have the power to abuse. All people are prone to abuse of power, that's why they say it corrupts. The difference is merely that men used to be the only ones with power, so the reverse situation was very rare. Go to a serious third world country where men regularly beat women and children as a matter of course to see how much things have changed...kids and women don't t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 05:12 AM
1	If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger? Yep. They are furious to find out that women are humans too and therefore just as prone to being shallow, greedy, lazy, sexual, and self-centered as they are, given equal freedom to do so without being killed or injured. Rather than being the selfless, pure helpmeets they wish women were. They want to be the only ones who sometimes cheat, who use people, who lie, who are attracted to shallow traits and engage in base behavior. They want to be able to take a woman's desire for commitment for gran…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 04:38 AM
1	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? Ah, well this explains it. Because most guys in their early 20s are good looking so frankly it's just less of an issue. I would have probably said something similar at your age, but really that's because I was spoiled by the fact that almost every man around me was fairly good-looking by virtue of the fact that they all had their hair and weren't fat yet and were in their prime. You probably don't even notice guys outside your age range. So it doesn't seem to you that you are attracted to looks …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/15 03:49 AM
3	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? Right because basically for it to happen over time means that you're convincing someone their first impression was wrong. Which can happen, but doesn't happen often.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 11:33 PM
0	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? This is about right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 11:30 PM
2	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? Really?? How old are you? Not arguing with your experience, just genuinely curious. I'm a woman and I've had feelings of sexual attraction to men based solely on looks since puberty. Don't you feel more motivated to get to know a good-looking man rather than a non-good-looking man?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 11:27 PM
0	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? As far as first impressions go, when we first meet a guy there are three boxes: Would definitely not bang (if he is here there is nothing he can do to get out). Would definitely bang so long as he's a decent, cool guy (basically here he just has to not fuck up -- this is a very small percentage of guys this hot though. Zero game necessary, just keep quiet and don't be a jerk). Grey area (no immediate physical attraction but could get you attracted if he turns out to be particularly smart or funn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 11:14 PM
1	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? Yes you can become attracted to a man you weren't initially attracted to, but only if he does something to (1) improve his appearance, or (2) show you that he's more sexual and aggressive than he first appeared. I've known guys that grew beards or lost weight and suddenly were hot, when I wasn't attracted before. Point 2 happens more commonly and usually involves alcohol. Reality is that women are not attracted to sexually timid or a-sexual seeming guys or guys who seem to have a madonna/whore c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 11:08 PM
2	Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time? Yes, but haven't you thought, "wow he's hot, I'd like to get to know him better to see if he's worthy of sleeping with" ??? You're saying you don't make a decision to sleep with someone right away but that just means you need more information to qualify them for sex. It doesn't mean you aren't attracted right away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 10:52 PM
2	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates It's real because you just stated you aren't one. Some guys prefer the social disaster/bitchy smart chick because she's more interesting to be around and converse with than the socially agreeable average-IQ chick. Most don't but some do. It's not unusual to be a "social disaster" if you have a high IQ because society is set up for the average. I've been with dudes who were only with me for my looks and I've been with dudes who were attracted by my looks but loved my brain and there is an enormou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 10:43 PM
1	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates The kind of person that uses the word sapiosexual is usually a young, good-looking person who lives in an urban area, and they already presume they can get a good-looking mate. They use the word to signal they're looking for cerebral, well-read, and up for hours of deep conversation, and to indicate that it's a condition for falling in love (though not for just fucking of course).	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 10:27 PM
-1	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates Huge exaggeration. Being attracted to intelligence is NOT the same thing as "intelligence as the sole requirement for arousal." I challenge you to find a single person who says that. Sapiosexuals will "fall in love" with someone they never met based solely on intellectual exchange. However, if they meet and are turned off by an ugly smelly person, that "love" will vanish in an instant. When people talk about what they're "attracted" to, it's always with a baseline presumption of a minimal thresh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 10:20 PM
1	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates OK, your example is better, and yes sapiosexuals will take the smart 7 over the average 9. The point is, TRP is wrong when it claims that looks are the ONLY thing, because that is only true for people who are not very cerebral or intelligent. For a high-IQ person, trading a few hotness points would be worth it to not be bored out of your skull. Of course, it's always best to not have to trade anything and get someone super hot and super smart, but obviously that is not an available option for mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 10:17 PM
0	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates That's not the comparison. A "sapiosexual" will prefer to be with a 7 who is hilarious, interesting, and fascinating to be around than a mind-numbingly boring 9 who never read a book or said anything that wasn't vapid. Would they choose a 3 over the 9? Of course not. But if you are truly intelligent, having to spend time around and converse with significantly less intelligent people is very, very painful. A 7 isn't as good as a 9 but the difference in actual experience really isn't that big, whe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 09:17 PM
8	CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates Totally agree. Ronda says nothing about not being interesting herself. Her point is that people who plan elaborate dates and activities do so because they aren't cool and don't have anything interesting to talk about. Which I agree with. I live around a lot of sporty, adventurous people who like to do active dates and they generally are boring, non-thinking type people who couldn't sustain several hours of conversation if you paid them. Though to be fair, those types probably find all the conver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 08:57 PM
7	If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger? The world is not actively hostile, it is merely entirely uninterested, cruel, and based on brutal principals of competition. That is true for virtually all life on earth. Still better to be a 40 year old virgin neckbeard than a fish, rabbit, mouse, or any other animal or a human living at any other time in virtually all of history when conditions were miserable and (post-agriculture) most people were slaves and subject to a lifetime of violence and brutal labor. TRPs are mostly people raised wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/15 08:13 PM
2	BP, is it internalized sexism when women always want the man to be taller than them? Yes it's totally unfair and sucks and I feel sorry for short men, truly. They have to do WAAAYYYYYY more work being funny, charming, cool, rich, etc, than tall guys, who often don't have to do anything but show up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/15 11:43 PM
2	Women, male strippers, bachelorett parties and you I hired two male strippers for a friend's birthday party recently and the birthday girl had sex with one of the strippers. That said, I did NOT expect her to do that. But, this birthday party had both men and women in attendance as guests...I had only hired what was supposed to be a short strip-o-gram and told them to keep their undies on and wanted them to just embarrass the birthday girl and make everyone laugh for one song and then leave. But she ended up dragging him into a spare bedroom... …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/15 11:17 PM
2	Women, male strippers, bachelorett parties and you Ha! Perfect description of civilization/social rules.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/15 11:05 PM
1	BP, is it internalized sexism when women always want the man to be taller than them? OK but who is causing the offense? Nature? The man's parents for not mating with someone taller? Scientists for not coming up with better ways to be fake-tall yet? Breast implants didn't used to exist, now they do. Probably in the future you'll be able to choose your height and then we'll have a nuclear arms race towards height. Until then you can curse nature but not women. It's proven to be one of the most universal preferences across all cultures that all women prefer a taller man. Men prefer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/15 09:49 PM