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Debateku-rosh/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:38 PM
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Most people who work 40hrs simply don't earn enough to get ahead let alone provide women with a life they desire though. By default, they're obligated to work more. I've yet to meet a woman who's happy to just get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:50 AM
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It's the economy we live in and the demands of companies. If men aren't willing to step up they simply get replaced. I'm not sure if you know much about labor in male dominated industries though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:44 AM
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So a man on a median income with a standard 40hr job is enough for you and/or most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:41 AM
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Wow. Okay that's enough reddit for me today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:30 AM
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No one said anything about the men who marry, that's a different conversation you keep coming back to. I'm simply asking about the men who choose not to when they are able to, regardless if they're the majority or not. I'd ask more directly but I have a strong conviction you'll go back to the same conversation only you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:17 AM
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Fair enough. But what’s your take on the ones who do have resources but still choose not to provide? You’re redpill, are men who can provide but won’t considered scum? Or are they rejecting a responsibility they should bear regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:27 PM
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Laziness? What's your take on the men who are working 70+ hours a week in demanding jobs? Autism? We simply can't win. "Provide and be a hardcore breadwinner!" Followed by "stop being lazy in your social life, optimizemaxx and start being a social butterfly!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:10 PM
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Where did I ever say "most men"? I simply said men also realize how expensive it is and some have also chosen not to pursue it. You're trying to put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:32 PM
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How does it not? You don't know the financial position of every single man. Not everyone wants to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:58 PM
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Or they're not ending up in relationships at all. Men who can provide are sometimes also well aware of just how expensive the whole ordeal is and are simply just avoiding the pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:10 PM
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Bro, it's a discussion. Relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:54 PM
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She's clearly talking about a healthy, masculine, probably conservative man. Not some alpha bro gangbanger. Anyone with a dick and high T levels can qualify for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:20 PM
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Also, masculinity stems from an upbringing from a certain type of male role model. I would be skeptical of any trans man claiming to have received that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:41 PM
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And yet women do this everyday with their ridiculous standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:35 AM
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Exactly. It's why ugly confident guys are called creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:19 AM
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People forget confidence breeds from a lifetime of positive feedback from others. If you're getting successful interactions with women because you're simply attractive it's only imperative that you'll also be confident. Shy chads don't exist, they're mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:45 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:32 AM
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Hard looksmaxxing is the only hope left for guys 5/10 or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:59 AM
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That may have to be on the cards in future. I genuinely put in 160+ hrs a fortnight at my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:18 AM
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Okay. What sort of hours? I put in 13-15hrs a day, that's why I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:02 AM
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I have to ask, but what do you do for work? I work quite a lot and honestly don't have the available time to dedicate that much towards socializing unless I give up gym and/or cut back on work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:55 AM
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I'm a Norwood 7. I've consulted clinics and multiple have said I'm beyond saving. I have considered a hair system but everyone already knows me as being bald. I haven't had your success but only around half your numbers, that just all happened between 15-25. Once I lost the hair, it all went away. Well done on finding your partner. Interesting how she has the same issues men have with high income, I guess it's not all gender specific. Yeah, it's quite sad. The saddest part is some of these guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:19 AM
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Of course, I've had some decent experiences with women but just like your blue eyes opening the doors, mine was hair when I had it. Since going bald women have perceived me the complete opposite and it's the only thing that's changed negatively. Everything else I'm told should be done has been done and improved upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:27 AM
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Serious? Ive never met any man in real life with that many. Before you assume, I have hit the gym religiously for close to a decade, even entered competitions. Go to the barber fortnightly and dress/smell well. I'm not a slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:46 AM
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What does height have to do with it? A lot. I’m 5’7” and have had close to 130 sex partners and two baby mommas that I know of. Congratulations on being an outlier, how does it feel? Let me guess, plenty of short guys absolutely slay too? Thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:51 AM
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Can read basic verbal and non-verbal social cues And what if the cue is a harsh/disgusted look signalling not to go near them? What if that's with every girl? Can accept that you can't talk to everyone and some people just aren't for you So if everyone doesn't want to, why blame the guy who has the ability to notice this after many failed attempts who gives up in the end? Because it's not the hero's journey? If it's just not for you then I can respect that but that doesn't diminish how effective…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:43 AM
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Okay. So what body language cues would you give? Surely the last guy flexing is showing that he's clearly confident and believes in himself. I'm aware the first guy looks as if he's leaning forward but is attraction really this finicky?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:13 PM
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I'd like to take what you're saying on board as a practical tip but it's just way too vague. How does one exude others through visual that they believe in themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:08 PM
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How would you advise they fix those vibes? Are you talking about simple things like smiling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:01 PM
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More proof that your looks is your personality. Would you honestly say that you or women you know would genuinely consider dating those men if they all did the things you said?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:36 PM
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It would freshen them up but it won't change their facial features or height. I'm extremely skeptical when I see comments like that. It gives a sense that women are essentially sitting around waiting to pounce on guys like these if only they just realized they need to trim their beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:24 PM
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You genuinely believe those two are all that's holding those guys back? I doubt it. And I'm curious to hear from women on this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:15 PM
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No shit. I asked a woman down the street if she knew where a certain shop was once and she looked at me in disgust and kept walking. I've literally seen friends walk up to women and grab them on the box (as a joke, apparently) and end up making out with them all night.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:21 PM
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Agree. That second advice is also only helpful to abusive chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:02 PM
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Call it what you want but you can't deny it's truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:58 PM
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Some people learn the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:36 PM
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I can vouch hand on chest that 99% of compliments have only been from other guys. Gym rotting is legit and a sad trap. Just get lean. Edit: for the guys below saying don't get too big and you're fine then I'd like to see what advice you'd give to these guys. • Guy 1 • Guy 2 • Guy 3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:56 AM
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Worth a watch. I spent 8 years gym rotting, even won a few powerlifting comps. Never changed the fact I was short and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:12 AM
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go to the gym, take a shower, get a haircut, stop being a loser That advice is only worthy for lazy chads. Otherwise gymcel wouldn't be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:43 AM
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Inb4 mod jumps in with no incel, woe is me content.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:39 AM
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The bluepill rhetoric is that looks don't matter, personality is more important etc. What you said coincides with the BP which is vilified, hence the mod immediately cracking it when called out. It's true, you're not wrong but truth isn't accepted around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:00 AM
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Say blackpill is true and you're an incel. Explain it in a more user friendly way and everyone agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:25 AM
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We may have different versions of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:22 AM
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This is cap. Go watch King68TheGreat on YT, he literally just walks around and girls run up to him. No Lambo, no signifier of wealth. Just 6'8 genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:21 AM
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Which usually means you need to NOT be ugly as fuck. This we can agree on. In fact, I don't know why blackpillers get vilified when this point has been nailed home by various commenters. But if you're average looking the best thing you can do is get your status and money up. This is where we disagree. I'm not convinced that status or money can compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:48 AM
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if you're ugly you gotta date ugly women. Which most men don't want to do.... Again, this is why women don't care about money, especially if you're ugly. Yes, I have seen those articles. It's quite sad if I'm honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:50 PM
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If you're ugly that doesn't really apply to you. This is my gripe with redpill. Because they tell you to get in shape and build wealth, but if you're still ugly, you're fucked. You conveniently ignore the part where I said "This is why online dating is such a sausage fest. Because not that many women choose on looks alone unlike most guys." But would you say that men can show other traits like money and status in photos? Clearly the guy wearing nice clothes on a vintage boat in Lake Como for his…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:35 PM
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I agree, I personally have had these results overseas. My point is though that the average guy can't get much better than a 5'10, athletic, wealthy, educated doctor. The fact that millions of people partner up in western countries without being any of that shows that money isn't something women care much about. Just don't put her on the street and keep food on the table with the odd gift and most are content with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:32 PM
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But if he had a regular factory job, would you stay with him? If he could just barely reach the minimum to provide stability, would that be enough? Or would he need to earn $200k+?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:29 PM
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As I said in another comment, you can't get to long term without going through short term. Women don't just wake up and start chasing unattractive men. They do their best to find even a median salary guy who they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:25 PM
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This point has been thrown around a lot but you can't go to LONG without first getting your foot in the door for SHORT. If she's not attracted to you, it's done. No money for normal person (forget extremes for a minute like billionaires) will attract a woman if you're short, bald and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:23 PM
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This is probably a better representation of the point I was trying to make without the hyperbole. Ask any men, would you rather be 4/10, short and ugly but rich or Chad? They'll all say Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:18 PM
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I'm assuming you've seen the clip of Jeff Bezos wife in awe at Leonardo Di Caprio right in front of him? Even having 100x a millionaires wealth still isn't enough if we're talking about extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:11 PM
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Try going overseas. You'll see what an immense difference money and status makes very quickly. He already has that by western standards though. It just proves my point even further when you say something like that. 99.9% of men in western countries don't earn what he does or have his net worth yet attractive men still get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:08 PM
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If your physical appearance is disgusting. That will turn off a lot of women no matter how much status and money you have. This is what I'm saying. Women don't go for money. At best, it's a little bonus that comes with the attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:06 PM
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You don't need to be rich to achieve those things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:05 PM
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Well, let’s not mince words there, what could be your problem then? Do you look like a ghoul? Are you extremely short? Are you morbidly obese? Is your hygiene awful? Are you autistic, since I’m contractually obligated to mention it as the ultimate women-be-gone? Because, I’m sorry, but you should at least attract some gold diggers otherwise. This is the sort of reasoning I was expecting people to throw at you which further solidifies my case, that women don't care about money. As you said, you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:51 PM
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What violent revolutions? There were worldwide incel rebellions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:58 PM
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Okay that's reasonable. I ask because I weirdly have had a tonne of success overseas with attractive girls but in my own country I'm lucky to have a relationship with a decent girl once every few years. I stopped using OLD because all I attract are 50+ yr old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:57 PM
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Had 2 friends kill themselves a couple years ago. Attitudes like yours are what breeds silent suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:13 AM
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What's your follow up to guys who've already done that? I'm asking genuinely because there are plenty of men who've done those things hence the term gymcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:12 AM
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I'm very interested to see what replies you get but I know they're all going to be aimed at being your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:03 AM
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An example would be armed forces or firefighter men. These men are not high earners yet tend to be viewed as highly attractive to most women I'm not talking about broke criminals. I'm simply stating that women at large do not chase big earners. A hunk firefighter will be chosen over Jeff bezos or a high earning office worker without good looks by most women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:53 AM
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Most women I know are college educated, and expect the same from the people they date And yet a larger majority of people are working class and don't fit this rule that's in your little world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:29 AM
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You can't get to the long run though without being approved for the short term. Women don't just line up and pick all the leftovers because they have a salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:32 AM
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Interesting, I'm assuming you're somewhat decent looking. My experience on the other hand has been the opposite. I'm in great shape, earn in the highest tax bracket, have a 7 figure net worth but am short and ugly and can't even get dates. Whether I lead with my wallet or not is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:31 AM
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Does that mean that some rich ugly fucker can bang college hotties left and right? Of course not. You're evaluated as a whole on 3 factors. Physical appearance + Status + Money This is exactly the point I'm making, that without the first two, money is irrelevant. But if you're an average looking dude. By far the best thing you can do is play the status and money game. I would actually disagree with that. Speaking from personal experience, building money as an average/below average looking guy ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:28 AM
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We can probably come to an agreement in that anyone entering the dating field thinking money will be their big win, or thinking their big win will be money, probably isnt dating with the best of intentions. I can agree on that. Although I'd rephrase it to "probably isn't going to get the results they're hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:14 PM
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I am. Because an ugly guy may be above them in socioeconomic class and still not be wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:06 PM
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I can agree with your statement. But if a man has money, it isn't enough to date even poor but attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:04 PM
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Given most people are in relationships and the median wage is quite low, I have to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:01 PM
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I disagree. One can have money but lack in the looks and status department and it won't be the saving grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:00 PM
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At least similar? If you're red pill then you'd believe in hypergamy which is anything but similar. It's actually more than.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:59 PM
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On average women want to partner with men who are more successful If this were true, every tech geek would be wifed up. Only they're not and most average people who are less well off but much better looking tend to have more success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:58 PM
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The most vulnerability they will accept is; Man: I have a problem. Her: how will you fix it? Man: by doing XYZ. Her: okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:32 PM
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The fact you agree with this says a lot about your virtues as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:23 PM
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My solution for men is to either improve to a point that they don’t have to complain about sex because they are having it, or to reframe the issue towards being lonely rather than sexless, which is what men are actually starting to do. Improve how exactly? I personally believe I've improved as much as I possibly could. I agree with the reframing. The only issue is people tend to use the entitlement card for companionship and not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:34 PM
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Again, I'm aware. I was stating the fact that not all lonely men don't put in effort. There are other qualities I have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:19 PM
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I'm aware but OP said lonely men are "shitty lovers and won't put in the effort". Ugly people get together all the time. Can't say that's been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:30 AM
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The manosphere underestimate the amount of ‘lonely guys’ that just make shitty lovers for a monogamous relationship. Sure, they’ll desperately want someone’s presence, but they wont put in the effort to keep them. Speak for yourself. I've set my life up to a point where I could easily support a wife and a couple kids but I'm just undesirable to women. I can't change that. I've played the best hand I could with the cards I'm dealt. But I can't force anyone to want me. Not all of us are shit. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:22 AM
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I'm told by friends I am but my results in dating show that I'm not. I'm very lean, had a hair transplant & double jaw surgery. But I'm 5'7 and ugly. You can only do so much with a scalpel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:13 AM
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I've come to find women actually don't care at all about money when looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:57 AM
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None of that works, I know because I've done all of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:51 AM
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Interesting. I'm single and have loads of friends. Not awkward, just ugly AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:48 AM
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I think it’s difficult for women because there are a lot of men who don’t put as much effort into themselves too I thought that for years until I built myself up to become the best version I could only realize it's all bullshit. Looks reign supreme, you can't self improve your way into a woman's heart. You can have everything she wants but if you lack the looks, you don't even get eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:17 AM
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It's fair game. I don't make the cut. Just need to find some other way to live life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:10 AM
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Went to Thailand twice and Indonesia, only able to get attention from prostitutes or lady boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:09 AM
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I highly doubt a man in his 30's whos living with his parents would get much of any success with women, regardless of his looks. Men have to hit certain milestones at very specific points in our life to be considered attractive. This is cap. I have a house, car, a 7 figure net worth, dress nice and groom well. It doesn't mean shit when you're short, bald and ugly. Women literally don't care about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:52 AM
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Fucking brutal, man. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:50 AM
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Australia. But that's not much of a factor, I've traveled to over 50 countries and spent time in more than 100 cities, it's the same everywhere I go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:31 AM
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Being bald and ugly makes the sandwich complete. Before you ask, yes I'm 172lb @ 11% bf, well off and dress/groom well. None of it makes a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:20 AM
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I'm 5'7, my results online are an exact replica of my results offline. Zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:17 AM
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It is meaningless. I used stats regarding my own self and apparently only 4.6% of men are either like me or taller and earn more. Yet I've been without so much as eye contact or a smile from a woman for over 3 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:15 AM
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For me it was simply a results thing. In my home country I'm invisible and I genuinely mean that. I went to Thailand once for 6 weeks and had over 400+ matches on tinder and the amount of attention I received was borderline celebrity-like. I haven't been back for years and quite frankly don't intend to travel much anymore but I can empathize with them on that front.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/25 08:31 PM
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Women say that but react differently. I thought this too until one day I thought fuck it and posted a shredded gym selfie. Matches came in droves since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:09 AM
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True friends have your back and would shame her, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:17 AM
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They want her to not go out with friends because they’re afraid she’ll cheat Ive always thought this was bizarre, wouldn't you want to know that from the very start before committing? Let her go out and prove her trust to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:45 AM
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Your looks is your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:16 PM
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I'll try to answer your question as best as I can. I'm someone who has taken on a lot of RP advice over the years, so here goes. What's actually stopping you from finding 10 other dudes and hanging out with them? Nothing Actually, a lot. RP advises to get your money up. I've been working 70+ hr weeks for well over 8 years. I also work away a lot in order to earn the money I earn. Most guys are also not just busy but tired. You could join the freemasons. They have male-only spaces. The reality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:54 AM
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5'7, bald and ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:15 PM
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My first words were I can understand both sides. I agree with OP, but I also see what works in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:15 PM
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Imaging living a lifetime where your blocked from experiencing one of the most human experiences that everyone else around you gets to experience and talks about This. This is exactly what it comes down to. It's not entitlement, it's that through sheer luck some experience it while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:47 PM
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If all guys did that, we wouldn't have neckbeards. Oh come on, I haven't had luck with women and I'm 11% bodyfat, well groomed, dress clean, floss and brush my teeth and wear a $700 fragrance. If your logic was correct I'd be swimming in women but I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:42 AM
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I can understand both sides. I have morals and no intentions of treating anyone like dirt or manipulating them but given that I'm not successful with women, I still refuse to change who I am. That said, I personally grew up with brothers who had a different father. I'm short and bald, they're both the typical Chad. I'm talking they grew up eating colored popcorn and cereal and have always been jacked with good skin. Some of the way I saw them treat girls growing up was ridiculous. I'm talking re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:20 AM
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Because most of what makes HVM high value is looks and attractive people have more chance through sexual encounters for pregnancy to occur. Before you say it's not looks I could use myself here as an example. I also go to the gym, am well read, earn over $200k/yr with a net worth just shy of $1m with no debt. I speak 3 languages and have traveled to over 50 countries spanning 5 continents. I actively partake in hobbies like martial arts, hiking, diving and reading... ... But, I'm 5'7, bald and u…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:18 AM
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Completely agree. I don't ask them out, just friendly small talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:17 AM
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Many guys are honestly pretty chill with a friendly interaction but girls reject even that from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:00 AM
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