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kwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 07:23 AM
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PICKMEISHA HALL OF SHAMEkwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 04:43 AM
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QUEEN SH*Tkwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/10/20 02:07 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYkwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 07:48 AM
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FDS ANTHEM 🎶kwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 04:36 AM
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Question For Womenkwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:19 PM
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Question For Menkwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:37 PM
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CMVkwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 10:18 PM
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STRATEGYkwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/20 08:57 AM
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CMVkwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:15 PM
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Purge Week!kwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:01 AM
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Purge Week!kwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:59 AM
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#JustLVMThingskwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/20 09:31 PM
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PORN SICK, LIMP DICKkwalden2/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 03:00 AM
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Sciencekwalden2/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:59 AM
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Because married men remarry more. Certain men actually are unhygienic/untidy, and these women have probably been exposed to it. This sight fis with the older generations of men who were raised not to do "women's work." Because younger, poorer generations are extremely unlikely to keep up with things like dentist and doctor's appointments. Because, with kids, non-fulll-custody and non-single dads definitely don't keep up with those things, let alone keep up to the higher standards you already all…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:39 AM
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I very unfortunately cosign this. Maybe not majority, but enough. The not thinking about it really helps. That's all I gotta say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:25 AM
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There's a reason why I would never be put in that position. I'd never have sex in a pump-and-dump scenario. Never risk pregnancy by not using a condom (if pregnancy were an unwanted risk). I waited over 6 months with my now-husband, who was the only one. I got plenty of shit for being the inexperienced, prude girl. I got my feelings hurt plenty of times when I ended up lonely. Still didn't drop my standards. If you start dating a woman, and you can tell that her attraction isn't right, don't mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 01:10 AM
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Very valid option
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 01:03 AM
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True that
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 09:08 PM
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Wow, that's crazy. Yes, it is totally crazy. He wants to travel the world even though he has 5 kids? he obviously is not taking any responsibility for them. That's exactly why I was calling him a deadbeat. That and the fact that it took me a YEAR of 'work friendship' to even find out the number of kids he has. I still don't know ages, genders, names, or pictures. He's been doing only under-the-table work. We all know this adds up to deadbeat all the way. He's gonna be piss poor and will return t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 06:36 AM
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I know a NVM deadbeat dad with 5 kids and military experience. 30+ years old, but won't say the exact number. Balding, sleeping around, still getting his first degree. Guess what his plans are for after graduation? Traveling the world. Yes, be very wary of men who want to do this. I would love to take vacations to a few carefully-selected locations throughout a period of years with my committed husband. This is not the same as escaping my home country on a permanent basis to go wilding in some f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 06:15 AM
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The way you're asking this question is weird to me. Obviously if I'm to identify one out of 15 men on a train as "the cute guy," he'd better be damn near a model for that to make sense. Either that or just "my type" which varies from woman to woman. A pretty high bar, though. That comes with the territory of identifying one man on a train. But in day-to-day life? Men have to DO something in order to get significantly noticed. They don't typically get noticed for sitting there and looking cute. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:51 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:43 PM
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Huh... interesting. Very interesting. You may oddly enough be onto something here. I don't have experience, so it's not an issue of sabotage for me, but there may be an opposite issue there. Thanks for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:41 PM
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Completely abstaining brings all sorts of toxic thoughts and behaviours Uh, what? How so? I can't imagine thinking "Haven't seen a naked dude in a while. Better become self-destructive or destructive to others."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:33 PM
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Yes, as long as he's still not hung up on his ex, or otherwise entagled in a miserable situation. Must be hardworking/ambitious, but that always was carefully vetted for any man. He should be pursuing me the same way I've literally always expected of men. You know? Like, with special interest. Then we're probably good for a few dates to further vet. Knowing that he already way divorced, I would have 3 concerns that would be addressed with special caution. Basically: extra low tolerance policy fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:32 PM
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HNY
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 07:52 AM
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It's better to not need an abortion, absolutely. In a perfect world, women wouldn't need it- ever! But, if you look closely, you'll see there are shitty men who are not rapists. Those men don't need to be granted the opportunity to fuck with a kid's life for 18+ years. There are men who will put on a good act before getting a woman pregnant, only to change their ways RIGHT after the first sign of a missed period. There is a whole society in which raising a child is extremely hard to do well on o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:22 AM
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Acting on patterns has to be based on something with a very high correlation, like plates being inedible. Take women being assaulted for a counterexample. Most men aren't sexual offenders. However, most women will still become victims from some type of offender. The correlation between men and consensual boundaries is not high enough to take chances over and over again with success. Continuing with this example: I'll assume that you are a man who is not a sex offender. I'm gonna tell you about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:54 AM
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That's only as good as the data. I also never said that statistical generalizations can't be made. I said that the trends will only be applicable for a portion of people. Also, it's worth noting that there is ways a way to manipulate a study or create a logical fallacy with the results. I mean... how is a study supposed to define "asshole"? What about people who score high in machoavellianism but low in the other dark triad traits or something? People are complicated. Try to generalize all you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:15 AM
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Lol and why is that? I would tend to disagree. But even if I didn't, what's that got to do with my point? I'm in STEM, so I certainly hope I understand. I realize that scientific studies on social issues tend to be more difficult. Correlation and causation are harder to prove, and response bias can happen. Every study will be different. I acknowledge that. If it's the way I describe what the studies show that concerned you, that's not taken from me. My wording was taken from TRP generalizations …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:55 AM
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Here is an example from right here on PPD where a man apparently assumes that all dates must be expensive. If you wonder why I felt the need to be annoying about creativity, now you can see for yourself. Peope need to hear it. Glad to know you aren't one of those people. Good for you. “Get creative” what an annoying thing to say. I guess you haven't been asked out on "walk dates" or to "Netflix and chill." It happens every day. There are numerous screenshots on FDS if you must see for yourself. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:54 PM
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So... you want women to stay away from you so as to not trigger PTSD?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:00 AM
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She should have gotten the first plate, and everyone can get their plate after she gets hers! Or, like with me and my husband, he gets both of our plates because he likes to do nice things for me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 08:37 PM
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Are you going to try and tell me there aren't men out there who make it a point to spoil women as a means of gaining their favor? Once you get to a certain level of commitment in a relationship, men definitely usually stop trying to keep women's favor. Maybe there are men out there who spoil. It's not standard, though, especially not in the lower classes. Perhaps in the upper class it's expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 07:43 PM
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I'm sure you didn't go, "Oh yeah, he's got a giant throbbing stable safe space happening right now. We gonna fuuk" Well I also didn't go "oh yeah, he's as asshole We gonna fuuk." So don't make it seem like that's what happened either. He's a guy who is masculine, strong, attractive, and safe. Why act like this combination doesn't exist? All those traits are important. If he's LL then how would you experience any of this? He's LL compared to me, but I still try to have sex with him. Often, we do …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:12 PM
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Examples: "Sally turned me down and she told her friends I'm too nice, but now she she's dating Brad who is an asshole." "Karen only dates dudes that look like Henry Cavill." "This study over here shows that virgin brides have the longest marriages." "This study shows that women tend to prefer arrogant men." "Mary and her husband have a dead bedroom." "Becky, Sue, and Anna all exploited ne for a free meal." Uh huh... and what do you want other women to do about it? Many of us are not dating Brad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:10 PM
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This could actually be an explanation. I mean, I think they're most likely either desperate or they just aren't the relationship type. I say they were desperate not out of my own opinion, but of them telling me "Wow, I don't even know why I like him- he's an asshole. What am I thinking? This cannot be healthy or normal. I must be settling for scraps."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:56 PM
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Okay, fair point. Thought I admitted that...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:49 PM
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I've also got women friends. If they did fall for an asshole, it's mostly because they were desperate. I think it's obvious how this would be an eventual failure in the eyes of many, many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:47 PM
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Like, its very important to be self aware, so I don't know how this isn't connecting for you. Because I get laid with my husband. He is the LL. I am super self-aware. Duh. On a personal level, you can't expect it to connect. They don't find beta behavior sexually attractive. Idk, pretty sure not bring cheated on and insulted is definitely a factor is creating the safe space for attraction to happen. That's why I only ever had sex in a LTR with my husband. And this is the key reason men complain …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:46 PM
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That's not abandonment... that's placing a baby for adoption (most often happens with newborn babies, and the babies are placed carefully in loving homes- often homes chosen by the mom). Foster children are taken away from neglect, and sometimes babies are dropped off at safe havens. I admit that. It's very rare, and it usually involves factors like drug abuse or abusive homes. It's certainly not as rare as a man abandoning his children because he's too immature to settle down, or because he jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:43 PM
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Also, you included "settling for betabuxx," which is basically punishing good men. Thaya definitely not something I'm aware of as a thing. Most women like their husbands from what I can tell. The women in my family certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:25 PM
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They've never been effective on me. Sure hitting the gym, being sociable, and getting your life together with a home/career will help, but even bloopers can tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:23 PM
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Because by the time you are having sex and sharing responsibilities for a whole household, you should ideally already know how to be a mature adult. And half the stuff TRP men think is "simping" is really just basic kindness as an equal partner. As if women don't spend money on groceries just to spend more time cooking their boyfriends good food. It's not spoiling someone rotten if they're already grown, mature, stable, and functioning as a proper partner on their own end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:21 PM
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I would never encourage sabotaging birth control. That is completely wrong. Usually, however, condoms work. Men can also have vasectomies easily. Or you can just have sex with a woman you trust and/or with whom you want a child. Abortions are an awful experience. Women do things to prevent needing them. If the woman WANTS a child, however, yes I agree she has an easier time having one than a man does. The man still has to take responsibility for his children, though. I'm guessing it's just becsu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:45 PM
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Funny... I don't see women doing that, and yet men will still say stuff like this. Worse, even the most long-term men who you call "beta" will still ask for anal and view sex in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:37 PM
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Just to be clear, women are within their rights to not want to have a child, and men have to or become deadbeats? Not OP, but absolutely. Women won't abandon the child if they have it. Men can manage this duty ahead of preganncy by being much, much less promiscuous and more careful. Where have you got that from? It seems fairly even. Check out a post in the top comment that shows the data on men and women cheating! I gave it the hugs award. Anyway, it explains how men have higher n counts than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:12 PM
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Lmaoooo you're so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:07 PM
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so it's not really all that surprising there's less of it. There's not. Women can admit when they do wrong just as much as a man does, and PLUS women can improve to change it. We just don't feel compelled to change our own ways just due to the way a dozen other women treated you. Only those women get the responsibility to admit wrongdoing and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:04 PM
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I don't feel sorry for you that the standard has risen for all men. Of course you should be a good partner. Why are you butthurt that it's now expected of you? You make more than women, and probably expect a woman to pop put your babies, but you can't pay for a few dinners and wait a few months for sex at first? Can't be respectful? No sympathy. None, sorry not sorry. Anyway, the standard for men really isn't even all that high. Go out and try a "walk date" or "Netflix and chill" and go watch al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:02 PM
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I'm here to argue against porn, hookup culture, and misogyny. These are closely related subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:47 PM
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They are to me. It's important to feel wanted and valued. I have no incentive to be attracted or interested at all if the man isn't into me. Very easily forgettable after that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 05:39 PM
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The woman would get stuck with any possible baby. The woman is more likely to get an STD. The woman is more likely to face social consequences for casual sex. I'm just saying. I know that men and women SHOULD be equal, but I'm afraid the facts are against us on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:06 AM
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I disagree with you because again, I’ve had sex with people within a few dates and meetings. And how did that work out for you? Obviously the very first one didn't turn into an LTR. Yeah, maybe some people accept different risks and prioritize different goals. Objectively, however, all the facetiming in the world doesn't really mean you know enough to deal smoothly with unplanned pregnancies. That's an objective fact. For example, The last woman I slept with we talked like everyday and face time…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 01:50 AM
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No offense, but that sounds like a lot of garbled words for saying "you wouldn't understand." The fantasy seems pretty real to me compared to how I have lobed my life. My husband did have to work pretty hard to find it. He failed a few times. But funny enough he did not behave in the way you described when he failed. Not all the way, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:12 AM
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Lol what? How did waiting for a presumably interesting companion and a non-slutty woman work out poorly for you? As a woman, I don't get this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:55 PM
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I like how the OP brings up how PPD men overestimate the commitment in LTR's. Like, those end all of the time. Unless you're moving in together, that is not full commitment at all. The least you could do is pay for an STD test an stop sleeping with other women while you're trying to establish a full commitment with the one lady. It's not really that big of a deal- especially not considering what the woman involved is also having to sacrifice to make the equivalent things happen on her end. But y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:47 PM
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YASS. 1000% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:34 PM
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Well, it takes more than a few dates to learn more about a person than their looks. It is SO easy for a person (from OLD especially) to lie or misrepresent. It doesn't have to take forever, but yeah, more than a few dates is definitely needed for something as intimate as sex. You realize that's how literal brand new humans are made? Sex isn't this casual thing people are making it out to be. Humans aren't evolved for birth control. Women's innate measure if birth control is essentially not havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:33 PM
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Yes. And it was an easy conundrum to solve. I start the dating process only after I am sure that I am interested in a woman as a serious partner. YES THIS. Know what you want. We are all adults. This is not so difficult. 1-3 dates might be a bit fast to gather all the info on the other person, but overall you can at least know where you stand personally and begin the process! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:27 PM
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I'm not religious, but it was still a very big deal for me. I was only ever with my husband. I don't get the reasoning of anybody who would be with an untested partner. Dangerous, particularly for women, and not very appealing. I need to see beneath the surface so that I'm not surprised with disgust at a bad time later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:25 PM
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Because it’s generally true lol. We are all adults here, it doesn’t take long to figure out if you wanna fuck somebody. Bullshit. There are real consequences to sex. It's not all about looks, is it? This can definitely take time to decide on. I admit, I'm sort of demisexual, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:23 PM
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You make a good point. Within the first year, it's exclusive and I consider where it's going, but it's not like I altered my life permanently or made lans for the whole rest of my one before that time. You consider it an LTR at the time because you HOPE it lasts, but it might not be literally long-term in the end. 1-3 years is a good time frame. For me, it's closer to 1. I know what I want, and I think ahead of time. I am very intentional about my life. It doesn't take me forever to know. One ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:21 PM
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Lol and how is that working out for you? Me and most other women in the US universally seem to think it works best with men approaching. Where are you from, and how is it working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:45 PM
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Do you date men, especially as a woman? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:12 PM
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I imagine most demisexual are not as interested in casual flings. Yeeah... this is why I identify as "demisexual," although to me, it's just "normal." I always had very minimal interest in any kind of fling whatsoever. If he doesn't seem attractive as a partner for whatever reason... my switch is just so off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:30 PM
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Lol what. Do you even know any human women? We desire enough men. We really do. I have know idea where you get this from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:11 PM
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Some women have turned down proposals or even been married, but they are now single. More importantly, some single women are raising men's children. Thats worth and value outside of sex/marriage. I have a sneaking suspicion that men know this- that's why they don't get snipped or wear condoms like they're supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:08 PM
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Poor social skills, or being too weak to ask a woman out, is an unattractive quality for men. It's not physical, but still part of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:56 PM
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If I already like someone as a friend the most likely reason for not wanting to date him is that I don’t find them sexually attractive. As someone who would typically be considered "demisexual," I can tell you that sexual attraction is not the same thing as physical attraction. I know some good looking guys who I wouldn't date. This is because they're not compatible with my life, and that fails to turn me on. I can still be friends with a wide variety of people, but that doesn't mean they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:54 PM
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No- you're right, calling someone out isn't the same thing as gaslighting. However, the words used can look the same. That's why gasligting is so dangerous. Anyway, don't be afraid to tell the truth about a man having a poor attitude when it happens. Men can and should be called out. That's half our battle- actually calling them out when it fits.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/12/20 03:54 AM
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Now i can never imagine a man yelling about something that makes them angry and a women turning to them and in shock saying- But you’re not happy! You need to learn to love yourself. You’re just so unhappy!! Think again. I will 100% say this to my husband, obviously a man. If he's gonna have an emotional overreaction, he gets called out. This is how we do it- this is how we end the patriarchy 1 "logical man" at a time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/20 11:43 PM
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You're a rare man, Richard Cypher. I'll put it this way: I've never met a man who didn't ask me out, who also seemed like he was capable of having a relationship with me in the way you describe. Not before I was taken off the market, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:45 PM
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If it's true that, unlike men, women find most men are unnattractive, wouldn't it make sense that the women make the first move? Oh, sure, if making the first move was all about sex and attraction. I definitely understand if you want to wait for the women to make the move on sex. I wasn't looking for casual sex, though. I was looking for a man that was ready to romantically date, and hopefully begin to form a romantic relationship. That's definitely not most men. But how do men know your intenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:40 PM
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Sometimes you gotta let the pretty ones show you how shitty they are I agree. I just get to know them. If they end up shitty OR uninterested, it might take me a bit longer to find out, but at least I don't risk anything. I take things so slow that it took me a couple of months to go out with or kiss my husband. I was only embarrassed one time by going out with a guy who was rude to the waitress. He also force-kissed me. The lesson was learned, so I go super super slow. I probably seem pretty bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:51 PM
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Well, if there were social and emotional risks to being around a cute boy or saying "he's cute" or initiating conversations, why would I think that any form of "approaching" is risk-free? I do have to say that men are a bit more understanding as adults. One time I said, "don't take this the wrong way, but you smell nice." The grown man responded "umm, how could I take that the wrong way?". I was just so used to being bullied/harassed that I was afraid it would become a thing. Later, I came up wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:25 PM
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I don't think anything intrinsically applies to women who approach men. It's more an issue of how society and men view such women. Just take PPD and TRP for example. Men say that women are always "CHASING CHAD." Imagine the big head they'd get, and what contempt they would have for you, if you were a woman asking them out. You'd just be another slutty Chad chaser, and they'd be Chad. No woman wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:48 PM
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Married now. It was middle and high school douchebags who taught me my lesson very, very early. Although you may have missed the part where I didn't even directly ask anyone out. I directly told a guy I liked him ONCE, I guess. Wasn't a douchebag, but he broke my heart a couple of times. Long story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:43 PM
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Low risk is false. I never even had to full-on approach, and I still had negative outcomes from even just being around a guy i found cute. I was teased at best, and humiliated at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:04 PM
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The kind of women who take initiative are the kind of women who can set clear boundaries with guys. That's an interesting take. For me, setting boundaries meant that I expected the man to make his intentions known before I even want to date him. I'm not so socially inept that I can't begin a conversation with a man, but I'm sure not asking him out. Just a boundary of mine, and I found that it works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:57 PM
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Y'all heard it here folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:54 PM
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Definitely not waiting a decade for some guy to realize I'm a catch. Definitely not gonna spend an ounce of effort unless he's made it clear that he knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:51 PM
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He said he wouldn't say no, so of course, the woman. That's how it is with men who couldn't give a care one way or another about the sex or relationships they are having.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:47 PM
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There is a birthday prank scam on one of the local radio shows near me. Loved ones will recommend a family member or friend for the prank. The recommending loved one will give an idea for stirring up drama based on birthday person's real life. Then, the hosts will call a person early-ish on their birthday and start crap, only to say "lol just kidding, happy birthday from X and Y at Z radio show!" It always bothered me. Like the best way a caller can make someone happy on their birthday is to rem…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 09:54 PM
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Now, wait just a hot minute, I think you are really onto something...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 09:43 PM
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I broke my foot last winter! This reminds me of my husband! I insisted on walking on it after just a few days, stupidly. He would always hold me around small steps, tell me to stay off my feet, and help me carry things. All that is at least somewhat above and beyond what a friend might do. When I wanted to be intimate, he would ask how he could help make me comfortable and what I needed. He would check to make sure certain things were not painful for me on my leg. However, I want to note that th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/20 07:41 AM
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YASS
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:37 PM
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I hate women's bodies being shamed. It doesn't work both ways, though. I do think that when men's bodies are shamed, it's usually a well-deserved retort to some rudeness and abuse. Call a guy a jerk, asshole, abuser, slut, used-up, or even stupid, and they'll probably laugh you off. The only way to get them back is to call them a manlet/microdick. That's where they hurt. They literally don't respond to anything else. When a MAN insults a WOMAN'S body, it's usually a response to polite rejection …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/11/20 06:36 PM
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1) Why? Because we are romantics. Of course we can't guarantee compatibility, but if we have some sense that there IS compatibility there, if course we will at least make an introduction. At best, the friends might have a relationship that lasts a lifetime. At worst, the two of you become friends and you can meet EVEN MORE people. There's nothing to lose. You're reading way too much into it. An introduction is an introduction. If this happens to you and your friends, it's probably because you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:29 PM
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I totally agree with the sentiment here, but I do wanna clarify/add that natural and healthy fats are super important for your body. Animal products (if you're not vegan), avocados, olives oil, etc. Moderation is important, but I wouldn't count these foods out altogether.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/11/20 06:26 AM
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Yup. It's tough as a woman to see this stuff. No idea why I'm still here tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:10 AM
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Those men who cock up have the same chance at self-control as everyone else does. Their poor judgment is not proof that humans lack free will. They're just particularly stupid people. Those are the pathetic people I am talking about. That is all. Decent people, in general, can control themselves. There's no excuse. It's what I've seen. I guess I could be wrong. I'm not omniscient, especially with men, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:09 AM
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Of course there is a reason to. Not having to spend your hard-earned money on sugars or prostitutes is a good reason. Not even having to spend on Only Fans is a good reason. Not having to behave like someone you're not is a good reason. Humans are not animalistic in the sense of mating. Those two modes of sexual operation are 100% mutually exclusive. Humans have developed control for a very good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:03 AM
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Worrying about "keeping dick wet" at all is for losers. There are more important things in life. I'm married to a man, of course I understand the male sex drive. I understand that even men have the ability to control their sexual urges long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 05:59 AM
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Forgot to tell her? You shouldn't have even made the plans without asking her for input. ESPECIALLY if the plan was for her to do all the work to make dinner happen.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 03:41 PM
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Er meh gersh is that butternut squash soup? That looks SO presentable, delicious, healthy and on trend for fall. Great job :) also helping you save money there, good on you. Serve yourself and your own needs first. Put on your own 02 mask first.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/10/20 05:29 AM
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Crashing the car is up there with some of my previous sexual assaults, to be honest with you. Frankly, I'm glad this thread exists because of my past experiences being assaulted. Being alone with strange men, twice in a car even, got me assaulted. I believe young women should be more actively taught these precautions as well as the importance of consent, even JUST with touching or kissing. I'm really glad this thread exists for that purpose. But the level of anger vs calm that a men exhibits whe…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 08:52 PM
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Weirdest thing? No, that's flat out abusive. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/20 06:40 PM
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TRP should take a great many things into account that aren't taken into account. They intentionally choose not to because that's not what they're about. TRP is mostly just about sex, which isn't ideal. If you're looking to what SHOULD be done, look far, far away from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:31 PM
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I feel like I see most women fighting hard to stay in their relationships. Men who get dumped can never seem to understand a "good" reason for it, except it's obvious to everyone else. Also, most women don't immediately go to dating other people. The ones who do are kind of obviously... very low on inhibitions. Of course, I'm usually selecting for the kind of women I want to associate with as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:29 PM
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Same though. Hard agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:27 PM
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Wow yeah you're so funny. See, I have a sense of humor! Pick me! Choose me! Love me! End scene. yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:32 PM
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Half-interested: He'll date you, but he won't bother planning anything special. Maybe you'll always have to ask, or you'll get "coffee.dates," "walks," and Subway sandwiches. He won't want you seeing other men, but he won't make you his girlfriend. He'll sleep with you, but he won't call you the next night. He'll be in a relationship with you, but he'll still be texting other women and reminding you that you're "replaceable." That's the type of garbage that half-interested means. I'm sure some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:39 PM
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Okay then, don't. That serves the exact intended purpose of keeping a woman from dealing with your half-interested or non-interrsted self, in my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:58 PM
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Helping attraction break out is a pretty big deal for sexy times. Also, for feeling wanted, imagine how YOU feel during starfish sex versus an enthusiastic session. Women feel attraction for being wanted the same way, but it translates to the rest of the relationship too. Being treated like a fucktoy literally creates a resentment that can kill attraction and cause disgust. After being turned down by your LTR for a certain time, would you not take the lack of enthusiasm to heart and become disgu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:10 AM
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Okay, I think I see what you're getting at here. I'm married. I'm in an LTR. I don't do novel limerence anymore- I am long past that. I cannot experience the visceral feelings and enjoyment day-to-day... unless I am comfortable. If my husband showed signs of instability, I'd be dry af. Otherwise, I'm so down. Maybe that's just because of my LTR situation. Initial selection may work differently in part, you have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:00 AM
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I don't have anything against you. It's just common sense that these particular women weren't that interested. Their motives sound ulterior. That's not agaisnt you. Make no mistake. I'm explaining why some women night behave dubiously. I admit, I do have something agaisnt all this "preselection" crap. It's crap. We don't like our noses being rubbed in potential replaceability any more than men do. There are some things men and women have in common. This is one. Please realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:53 AM
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I have a "type." Not necessary to be in the top 20% objectively or whatever. You just gotta match with me. That includes both looks and personality. Too tall? I'm short, and that might be intimidating for me. Too different from me genetically? Sorry, usually I just don't connect sexually to people who are too different like that. There are studies that show this being common. Too different world view? We might not even have one good conversation. There just needs to be a match for me. Looks are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:32 AM
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It's a total hoax. Men are allowed to leer at the women they know and make people uncomfortable. Sometimes women will even give their phone numbers out to these creeps! No one says crap for fear of being labeled a "bitch." When a man stares at other women in front of his significant other, she gets told "men are visual, deal with it." All you get is women talking about it amongst themselves about it as a problem. Famous men won't humiliatingly reject or pump-and-dump most regular women, so women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:24 AM
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Thinga that definitely make a women feel hot to: 1) Knowing that she's not 100% responsible for everything like BC and future planning- that the man is generously taking some stress off her. That definitely makes a woman feel hot. 2) Feeling wanted, interesting, and listened to instead of permanently fuck-zoned. 3) Not having to worry about competing for attention, not worrying about last-minute plans, and not being concerned about being switched up on. It might seem rational rather than emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:09 AM
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You'd say that the women picked a very, very undesirable mate. Unstable, waffling men are not catches in any way. Of course that translates into stability being desirable, although maybe not so much viscerally to you as it would be to a woman. If you could be impregnated, you might feel a bit more viscerally sexy when you were comfortable, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:58 AM
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I mean... what the hell do you say about women who have sex with guys who AREN'T stable? It's one factor, but it's definitely a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:40 AM
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"He knows exactly what he wants, and I can totally see a future with him!" Is exactly what every girl says about her new, promising boyfriend. Maybe "stable" isn't the word, but same shit. Also, I've literally complimented men by saying they were responsible. It means a lot. No one likes a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:36 AM
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Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Clearly a catfight, and nothing to do with you. Not like being single killed your chances at getting laid. It was probably never going to happen anyway, except maybe out of spite. Most people wouldn't want that...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:34 AM
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Friends? Yeah, that explains it. While you were taken, they felt safe to flirt in a meaningless way or just pay you more attention without being propositioned. While you were single, it became a real possibility, which they weren't sure about for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:52 AM
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I'm literally not lying. Maybe some women don't think like I do. I'm different. A man who knows what he wants for his life and commits to it? That's a stable man I can get real, real comfortable with. My husband is like that. Love him. He's very hot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:49 AM
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More HL than my husband lately. And, to reiterate what the other person said, I have very low tolerance for shenanigans. I am goal-oriented. My type usually is the same way. The chances of me meeting an inherently monogamous man were .ugh higher than me meeting a man who just "chooses to be monogomous for now." Plus, I believe in marriage, and most men who even entertain some plate spinning don't believe that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:47 AM
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"All my ex-gfs asked me out, and it never lasted because I just wasn't into them." Pay attention, ladies. You heard it here!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 08:10 PM
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Maybe I'm not "women," then. Like I said: I never wasted my time on a man who was not clearly interested in at least the prospect of monogamy with me. Oh, sure the objectively attractive man will probably have his physical appeal to me, too. But I wouldn't give him time of day after learning he is a plate spinner. His behavior matters much more than the behavior of other women. I have dated plenty of men who my friends didn't think were that cute. All of those men were inherently monogamous, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 08:03 PM
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Yup. Getting snipped will definitely get you 100% praise from me. Personal responsibility is both admirable and hot. not hitting on you, I am faithfully married, but in general
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:08 PM
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Why would a lot of women like you getting attention from a lot of women? We live in a monogomous culture, in most western places anyway. If a man could happily not provide me with monogamy, he was always nexted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:05 PM
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Nobody enjoys a lifestyle with low quality people in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:39 PM
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Best outcome for the woman. The best outcome for the man would be... maturing. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:17 PM
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And how is not that fair? Do most of us women not have to deal with men's past experiences? My husband is more experienced than me, as I've mentioned. I have no experiencr outside of him, yet I have to deal. Of course I would expect some men out there to co the same. People have to deal. Oh, and having like 2 or 3 partners in a decade doesn't make you a slut. Even 10 doesn't make you a slut. Maybe some women just aren't cut out for LTR's. They can still be honorable and productive people. What m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:13 AM
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Interesting. Glad to hear from you. Too often, I hear from men who say that even a 3 month wait it ridiculous or manipulative. Not sure what you deem a "high quality woman," but I'm sure every man has his different preferences. I hope I'm high quality to my love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:29 AM
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How many men like the husband of u/kara_zorel exist? How many super-high-N men would date a low N-woman, wait 8 months, and talk about marriage before sex? Not many. I don't have a problem with that guy, sure. But your average plate-spinning TRP man? Oh, yeah, he wouldn't be my type. low N woman (1, my husband, his n=4 neither terribly low nor high but on the lower end. Wish it was lower, ngl. Can't undo the past though, and I admit that it made him into the man I love.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:42 AM
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Yeah, thanks. Not all heroes wear capes. Hope it works out. I just want the best for my people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:55 PM
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Yes, value or low value is the main point. Arent you going to pursue/accept the things in your life that make life better according to your own standards? I mean, I'll agree that the language could be changed, but the general concept of "evaluate your options carefully" is essentially the point for everyone. Men don't need to pursue casual sex from just anyone, and women don't need to accept relationships with just any man either. This is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:43 PM
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Well, such a strategy already worked for me, soooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:36 PM
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Probably sexism lol. It's widespread "tradition" at this point, so it seems like we would be intentionally going against society just to not use their name. That's not the big fight for me, though. A meaningless name is nowhere near as important as all of the struggles I've had trying to succeed in my male-dominated field.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:16 PM
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If I was having a baby, I would want ALL of us to share the family name. Don't care which name it is, although most people would assume that it should be my husband's. His family would get offended, and my dad doesn't so much care about his name as far as I can tell. Why would I not keep my name after getting married? Well, I've had people call me by his last name before. I've also had people assume that his last name is mine, as if I already changed my name. If there was one name, we could at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:58 PM
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Alright, fellow women. Keep your legs closed. Let's shut men like this out from our innermost selves since he finds no value there. Get on board, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:51 PM
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Oh I'm sorry. I mean I'm NOT against taking his last name. Typo, my bad. It would be an issue for the children's because I would want there to be a family name. Also, my husband has brothers who passed on his family name. My family's name hasn't been passed on except through my cousin. I might or might not choose his name, but I would definitely want any children to have the same family name as their married parents just to avoid confusion in society. Children in school wouldn't be as understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:37 PM
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I haven't taken his last name yet. I do think it's sexist, but not to the point where I'm agaisnt taking his last name. I don't mind doing it for him because he is not sexist. I just haven't made it to the DMV. And you know who doesn't make it an issue? Him. My loving husband. It's been a while since we married, but we have encountered a heck of a lot of issues in that time. We've been very busy. Just no time for filing paperwork. I would make a bigger issue out of the family name if we were hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:23 PM
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Why demonize men who want casual sex? Because of the orgasm gap. When a woman has casual sex, the man enjoys it and often pursued it. When a man has casual sex, he might not even be up front about his intentions, and he more than likely won't give a care about her orgasm. Women who have had casual sex (not me, I never did) seem to have learned the hard way that it's different when men do it. I think it's possible for men to have casual sex ethically, but I wouldn't bet my hard-earned money on it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:18 PM
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Marriage is what you make it. In this day and age, my husband and I found legal and social benefits. Weddings, on the other hand, are indeed sexist. I went to the courthouse to get married. It wasn't all about ceremony for me- I was just happy to have a precious few loved ones there to share in our happiness. The decision to marry was more about our commitment and our future plans together. We moved in together the day we married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:10 PM
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I've been the poor woman before. I'm also quite smart. After waiting on tables all day, there was still zero chance of me taking crap from my husband when we came home at the end of the day. I don't call that masculine, but hey, whatever you say i guess. I still wanted to be able to do some small things for myself without him counting every nickel and dime. If that's what you call entitlement, good luck getting away from that. I don't think it will ever happen for you- no matter how successful o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 02:02 PM
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And that younger, thinner woman will age, and you'll have to put money toward her with ZERO chance of her contributing. You can assume a nightmare scenario where the educated women quits her job and is still "entitled," but that doesn't make it true. One educated women who takes care of herself is more than all the poor women who literally can't do so without outside help. You really let your thoughts slip out when you said WOMEN here. If you keep upgrading and having multiple partners, looks wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 01:46 PM
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I will note your point for sure. I don't think of it being about my husband, as I clearly value my hsuband a great deal regardless of FDS. Am I overly cautious? That's a harder question. I may very well be guilty of it. Much like my assaults, there are details about my husband that I won't feel 100% comfortable posting on Reddit. We were long distance for a while, and that was really hard. Also, his LL as my only ever partner has kind of sparked some insecurity in me. I'm definitely at least a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:19 PM
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Men being dangerous/dubious is less a part of men endorsing FDS strategy and more about men trying to literally slide past FDS strategies. Perhaps I misunderstood the particular thread. Now that you mention it, though, there are probably a few good lessons I could dish out without getting into too much personal detail...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 09:07 PM
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Well, of course my husband has his great points. I stay because the green flags. His patterns are not the same as a f-boy, or a half-interetsed or stingy man. I got lucky. My colleagues and whatnot are not this type of man. Buyer beware. Let's just say I won't be setting most of them up with any of my single, female friends. I will add fuel to your point, though, in saying that 2 of my most recent colleagues would get my romantic recommendation 100%. I don't mean to hate on all men, but I do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:57 PM
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He was absolutely gem, and I've definitely found some such men in my day. I hope you never catch me saying otherwise. What was it that made you call him bad things though? How did I make him sound bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:49 PM
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Thats because you don't know about the times I was assaulted by men I dated once (not usually worth mentioning here, because they were obviously swiftly nexted). You don't know that the trad con man got a suggestive (but clothed, just to be clear) picture of me without my consent. You don't know what my middle school boyfriend had to protect me from. Even more importantly than all that, you don't know what I have to deal with from those men at work who I'm not dating. I got incredibly lucky with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:48 PM
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What was it, again, that made you think my middle school bf was a pushover? It's funny to me because most people who know him would be legitimately afraid to cross him. Don't remember everything I wrote about him, but I said he protected me. That worked because he was actually quite a force.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:21 PM
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What do I mean about patterns I don't want? I mean patterns that would have caused me to break up with my husband a long time ago if my husband exhibited them. I'm not angry, larping, or hating on all men. I'm trying to educate women, most likely young and naive women who, who are struggling. You think I don't know that there's a lot worse things out there than even what I have seen? Oh, I know. I think it needs to be talked about for future generations. Even young men have struggles that need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:13 PM
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Not sure how paying the unenthusuastic helps anyone. How would the unenthusiatic wives be any worse? Even if they're putting on a better show.. it's... it's a band aid at best. Isn't it? I don't know. I cannot stand the urge. I'd much prefer a dry spell and a full pocketbook. I will do whatever I can to not have a pick-me mentality. My life is for my pleasure and my pleasure only. Who else is going to pursue my goals/desires if I don't? Only my husband who intentionally and enthusiastically purs…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:09 PM
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That's a tough one. Learned about that much later in life... it complicates things. Just not sure what ought to be done about it. If anything, it's more a question of that difficulty in strategixing that puts women in a different position. It does not, in fact, have anything to do with women being narrow minded/solipsistic/insert whatever flaw here. Just wanted to point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:05 PM
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I have relatively tame experiences due to my own upbringing and standards. I don't resent men. That being said, would you even disagree that there are risks to being a woman dating men? Would anyone disagree with that? Of course I'm going to encourage my gender to be risk-conscious. There are a WIDE variety of men. I can only know how to spot and best deal with the ones I see. I can also compare notes with other women, so that my beloved nieces can have all the knowledge I didn't long before the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 08:03 PM
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Listen up, I don't resent men. I see patterns in a lot of men- not all men- that go against what I want. I occasionally see male behavior that objectively negative, but I don't think that's a majority of men. Overall, I avoid what I don't want. Isn't that what we all do? There are many other likeminded women, especially women on FDS, who seek the same things I used to seek. There is common ground there. We have to make our choices given what modern men, either some or most modern men, pursue. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:51 PM
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It's not brainwashing. It IS shameful. I don't need another person's body so much that i would pay for it. I don't want to have sex when someone else isn't equally into it. Why would anyone else want that? If some men are that desperate that a "dry spell" affects them so much, I suppose they cannot be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:44 PM
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.... and what is that in regards to men, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:42 PM
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Even if all men had a shared "nature," which I wholeheartedly don't believe (probably just because I am stubborn at this point), why would women like me embrace that nature? By "women like me," I mean women who are disgusted by casual sex and only value LTR's. Why would we even acknowledge the base, contrary impulses of men? Our acknowledgement will only encourage their advances/banter. Men love to talk about how macho and virile they are. We get it. It's old news. What is to embrace, other than…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:42 PM
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Lmao because LTR's are terrible for every man, right? Good grief. With all the men out there who have girlfriends, i sincerely hope you aren't right. I sincerely hope that for everyone involved. Projection much? There is just no other way all these men would choose relationships if they felt like you do... right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:34 PM
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First of all, he's my husband, not my boyfriend. Secondly, he is somewhat LL compared to me, which it makes sense for me to keep an eye on. Thirdly, I am indeed confident enough with my marroage nd even usually my sex life regardless of my husband's LL. We have our reasons for what we do, none of which are your business. Fourthy, not everything I notice has to do with my own relationship or dating life. I'm in a male-dominated field, which you might have noticed from lurking on my posts. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:17 PM
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Yes, take this downvote. I'll take my marriage until death do us part. We all do our part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:39 PM
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I guess most men won't be able to.do this strategy then, because everyone I met became obvious pretty soon. I also refuse to compromise, and I waited long enough to be sure of myself. I think my choices had a lot to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 12:03 PM
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Yeah... the wait is not arbitrary. You have to actually get to know the guy, and after that it's pretty easy to tell. I married my first. Even with the others, I could tell so fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:35 AM
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Becomes difficult if you are sharing major property, mostly a house. She will want her equity as well if she's sharing all of the bills. It sucks to keep track of all those investments for the courts if you are just, essentially, just partnered co-owners. I would talk to a lawyer about all of that id you ever do consider marriage, or even cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 09:32 PM
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Not impossible if a large percentage of the population isn't getting married at all. Idk how all prenups work. I'm assuming that you'd need to get a lawyer for your specific case. I had no need for one. Neither my husband nor myself went to graduate school, not yet at least and not without each other's support. It is all yours if you aren't expecting her to care for all of your household burdens or children instead if making her own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 09:16 PM
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No, I don't hate the fact that I'm straight. I'm just grateful that I'm a woman, because comparatively less testosterone means that I'm a bit more easily able to distract myself to my urges. My sexuality does not define my life at all beyond where I can use it to give me joy. Since I do have wonderful sexy times with my husband, my sexuality brings me a lot if joy. I love being straight because of how lucky I got. Even at worst, I wouldn't hate being straight. While being able to be with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:55 PM
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Most people DO marry their equals, making the 50/50 split fair. I agree with not expecting to divorce, but I am still pro-prenup. I would not have gotten offended if my husband wanted one. The only reason we didn't get one was because we literally had nothing coming into this union.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:41 PM
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Sounds like that's working for you- good on you. For me, we are renting currently. I would be the one displaced, but it's not like I have a crapton of equity I would lose if he just took over the lease. I'd make him pay it though, and I'd make him take over the car payments in full, but I'd also give him the full equity on the car. It's not worth nickel and diming over if we both just wanted out. We have no kids. My aim would be a clean break- not taking all of the material wealth I can. We also…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:04 PM
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Okay, thats fair, if that's what you mean by wealthier. People have brought up the point before. Not sure what you mean by "most women," as I have never met a woman like that. This scenario sounds very rare to me, but I don't have stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 06:57 PM
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HIS shit? You think women don't earn money to pat for things these days? Even if they don't earn as much, they still contribute in the household. Many women, okay not all but many, earn their rights to community property. You calling it HIS shit is not accurate, and that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:40 PM
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What? Where did you get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:39 PM
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I do recommend having a minimum in separate accounts. Not "hidden," but separate. Prenups are great. Even just ruthlessly vetting the financial situation of the person you are considering getting married to: do they have earning power similar enough to you, and what do they plan on contributing in the way of children if that is what you both want? All of these are important factors to consider. "Hoping that assets get split 50/50" is a great contingency plan, as long as you know how to make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:37 PM
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I mean, in the high-crime and stereotypically inner city herion neighborhoods, your drug dealers are scary people. But your stereotypical university or suburban high school dealer who starts off with weed? He literally has to have contacts, social skills, and confidence to get clients and keep them comfortable. I became friendly with and dated one back in high school before I knew what he was into. We parted ways romantically due to the obvious differences in life goals, but the drug issue hadn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:32 AM
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Got stats? Those two points do not follow. Yes there are exceptions to the rule, but that just proves the rule. This whole conversation started with someone saying "oh, why get married?" And implying that NO couple needs marriage. I simply want to point out why that's not true. If men want to get on the internet and talk about the perils of marriage- and I will be honest, it's mostly men saying this because they seem to think that their contribution is more than the woman's- then I think it's im…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 05:23 PM
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It is the more dangerous one for the higher earner however and the benefits do not outweigh the risks. Pretty sure a lot of couples have similar earnings. I'm sure there is some sort of caring initially, but don't forget the social pressure to get married. Certain classes are punished for not getting married or getting divorced, so it's not like there aren't heaps of unhappy marriages that stay together just because they have to. I mean, yeah, if people are marrying under that sort of circumstan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 05:00 PM
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It is definitely worth it for some people. I am amazed, in honesty, by the amount of people who don't think they can be smart enough to make a contingency plan in case of marriage failure. Everyone can and should have a contingency plan. Not every couple who wants marriage is taking as big a risk as you make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:47 PM
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Marriage does save steps, and it's not required. No arguments here. That's actually kind of my point. Marriage is not the more complicated arrangement to make, and it doesn't have to be justified if people want to stay together. Building a dynasty requires marriage, yet hardly anyone these days is pressured into that. I plan to have no children. Unless we can build a bond with my nieces and nepnews, any wealth my marriage amasses will go to charity after we are both dead. The majority of people …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 04:43 PM
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Well, I have some projection of my own. Why do they not have standards? How do they not have standards? I just simply cannot understand. And every man skank I've heard from can 100% confirm that his low standards have caused him problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:36 PM
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Sounds right, honestly. It's just so very disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:34 PM
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Completely untrue! I'm not even religious and I waited for meeting my now-husband! Good grief... how can men be this ignorant about women who value commitment in a sexual relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:08 PM
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Yes! Yes we do! I'm not even religious and I waited for meeting my now-husband! Good lord... how can men be this ignorant about women who value commitment in a sexual relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:07 PM
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Nothing else... nothing else matters? My mother got cancer and died. My father was the one in charge of the medical decisions when it happened. Afterwards, erything she owned smoothly went straight to my father. All of this is the case because they were married. There are other ways to protect yourself and claim rights, but who needs to settle for that in a society that still mainly respects the status from marriage? At least the upper classes respect the status of marriage, and that's where mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:05 PM
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If I wanted a maid I could simply pay one. Might even be cheaper, with the work done potentially being of better quality too. A maid won't call for your doctor's appointments. A maid won't remember your mother's birthday and get a gift. A maid won't rub VapoRub on your chest when you have a cold. There are a lot of things you can pay to have done, but the fact is that women make non-sexual contributions to relationships that are of value to most men. Men should contribute, too, by being assertiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 02:52 PM
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Plenty of men don't carry the burden well anymore, and it's a problem. You've got me there. Why is it a problem? Why should men carry the burden? Because whenever I tried to initiate something myself, it turned the boy off and never gained a remotely successful relationship. I learned my lesson 100% to not even tell a boy I like them before I even hit adulthood to date grown men. Men actually like the chase. It's literally what they contribute in most relationships. Men don't contribute extra ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 02:15 PM
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if this was true, why should a man value loser women for anything but sex then? Women bear a lot of household burdens still today, and most coupled men rely on their partner as a source of support even more than women rely on their partners. It is generally women who are wanting to make plans with their significant other, not men. Womeh aren't the losers. That's why. You think women are more picky. It's well assuned, I guess. Probably true for casual sex. As someone who dated and did not have ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 01:33 PM
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I still find a good relationship to be a lot more fun than work, but yeah it does become work and a bit less fun I guess. I think it helps that usually both sides expect to benefit somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 06:39 AM
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I agree. Proposing an initiating at first are different than planning a couple's vacation 5 years into a relationship. There is a lot of context to it. Like with the doctor's appointments, I have been the one making all of the calls with that since I got married. I've completely taken care of our car insurance. I lead in those things. However, he was the one who proposed and he found us a place to live. Everyone has to do their share of the work. Just depends on how people want it. I could be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:19 AM
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Honestly? It's just super tiresome to not only be the one who has to clean the house, bear the children, potentially still work a full time job, remember all the family birthdays, record all the doctor's appointments, and STILL be planning every single trip or date. To STILL be the one to remember, notice, and initiate every important couple conversation. It just sounds so exhausting. Not to mention the fear of being talked about as a "nagging old ball and chain" because you dare to ask for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:10 AM
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Good lord. If men were really all that not picky, they'd ask out lots of women and be happy with almost any yes's. This doesn't happen. What happens is men proposing and still complaining about "the old ball and chain." Some men will complain about having to do things even for women they like! No, that's the problem with lazy and disinterested men. Lead from the start, and men will always expect you to keep doing it. They are stubborn that way. I'll just call it like it is. Only thing I'll say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:59 AM
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Doesn't sound like an ideal situation. So, the thing about this is, many women are cyberstalked, attacked, or at least unpleasantly argued with over ending things with a man. A woman you are seeing will have no idea whether or not you're one of those dangerous men, unless and until you have gotten serious. Ghosting isn't ideal. Even a one sentence text and then a block can be more appropriate unless you've really made her angry. There are reasons for women to avoid confrontation, though, even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:51 AM
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That's interesting perspective. I never really looked at that like a "sacrifice." The search for a partner is not hopeful and fun- it is exhausting, to be honest. I'm glad to nor be looking. I cannot speak for a polygynous man, although many of said men seem to feel the same way that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:44 AM
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Implciitly ending things is, basically, ghosting. It happens sometimes these days. You cannot own a woman. I suppose I meant if you locate one particular women with whom you can come to an arrangement. If you have trust issues that run this deeply, I suggest more casual agreements. You don't seem to have the most effective mindset for a more permanent or serious arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:35 AM
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Are you implying that by making her your girlfriend she won't have sex with other males? Yes, normally that's the arrangement. Monogamy is a social norm now. I can further clarify that by "girlfriend" I mean the common sense of the term- "a woman with whom you have an explicitly exclusive sexual relationship." Are you implying that all females explicitly "part ways" before having sex with other males? The vast majority of women (girls should not be having sex) do part ways fully, explicitly or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:03 PM
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Upvote because this is pretty much the answer. Mate guarding is publicly establishing your relationship/connection. It's a strange phrase, to be honest. Controlling is done without consent and reciprocation. If you tell her not to do strip feasts but you can go to the strip club, you're controlling. If you hack your partner's account without consent, you are controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:43 PM
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This! So much this! End thread right here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:30 PM
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Neither men or women should be fully getting exactly what they want Shouldn't both be getting like 99% of what they want? That's what my husband and I are aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:12 PM
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Not really sure where you are finding women who look for both. I only wanted one type of encounter, so I searched for that one. Simple. How do other people not know what they really want? I don't get it. That being said, you have a point. The casual.sex competition for men is steep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:41 PM
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I'm not super experienced, but I think a lot of men have at least occasional casual sex. I also think that most men have some physical flaws. I know several scrawny or shorter men who have casual sex. It's what I see. The common variable among the men who I see having casual sex is that they are willing to have sex with even the absolute craziest of women. They all have stories. All 4 of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:29 PM
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I'm a woman. How is there no point? Men who are not that attractive can have casual sex. It goes straight into the truth of the comment I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:18 PM
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Oh that's bull. I know a balding man who has a ton of casual sex to the point of it grossing me out. He's not even that fit or tall, though he's not terribly short, weak, or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:11 PM
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I... wh... whoa. Even your username. Please, sir. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:57 AM
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Yes, this. So much this! There's a misunderstanding where a woman's reactive desire is somehow assumed to be fake, ulterior, or even necessarily result in less frequent sex. None of this is true, despite genuine differences. People are misrepresenting what the real differences between men and women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:40 PM
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Hmm interesting. I found my husband long before I ever looked at FDS. There is definitely a "make it work" mentality in my life. Nothing comes easily, but lack of abuse is not enough. The right choice for someone on my side is critical. Relationships are not a woman's sole responsibility. I've dated some poor men, but not a total bum. If you did have struggles with such, being on RPW, I would think you would acknowledge that it's a serious problem within a relationship and look our for the warni…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:35 PM
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RPW? Wow! Color me surprised. I would never have expected that, honestly. Mostly because you said you have dated women and you've been relied on before, but you didn't seem to question it as much as I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:28 PM
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Thats an interesting perspective. I have seen a lot of complaints about effort. On the internet, there are also complaints about steep competition for casual.relationships. I guess I consider that to be coming from outliers because the people I know in real life don't have such struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:13 PM
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And what do you think my views on relationships are? Yeah, I think a man who speaks really casually about relationships is probably not compatible with most women who are looking for something serious. There is nothing to disagree on there "good vibes'" written on a backpack is one thing. "Good vibes" written to a woman you're trying to date is quite another story, and women deserve to be warned about that. Especially young women like my noeces deserve to be warned, because as a young woman I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:12 PM
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Uh... was that a post on FDS about swiping left on "vibes" guys? A post made aimed at other women who are still dating? Yeah, that's happened. Not a cheater myself, though, to clarify. I am on that sub for the benefit of other women, and honestly for human knowledge. It's interesting to see how times have changed from when I was raised. It's interesting to see the audacity of men these days. I don't get a lot of that in real life with my husband, but my nieces will one day. They must be prepared…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:32 PM
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Sorry, I misunderstand... liquidity gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:19 PM
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I'm married already. Hypergamous bullshit? Because I expect men as well as women to be monogomous when that's agreed upon? Thats ridiculous. Where are you getting that from? You can see how you don't sound like a woman at all. I'm offering you a chance to explain. If you are, in fact, a woman, I hope you understand that not cheating doesn't get a man any credit. Men are usually the ones who ask for a monogomous relationship. They don't get credit for holding up their end of the bargain any more …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:18 PM
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Props are congratulations, which is a prize so to speak. You damn well know that. Add in the rest if the way you're talking to me, and no I don't believe you'd say props to a non cheating woman who was propositions. I AM one of those women, and you're still an absolute asshole. Don't lie now and say you are respectful to women. Own your own problems, and maybe eventually you can fix them. Best of luck <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:09 PM
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Food is a necessity, relationships are not. Plenty of men would rather screw up by hitting on other women and not even wearing a clean shirt than actually find a girlfriend. These men exist. It is their choice to behave this way. They are getting exactly what they signed up for. I call those men winning by their standards, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:06 PM
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props to a man who is happy enough with what he has at home The bar is in hell. Bet you would NEVER say that to a woman. You'd just be like "so you don't cheat, you don't get a prize, whatever."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:01 PM
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Gee, that would imply that most men are getting a fair deal from the system. Who would have known? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:48 PM
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For casual sex, I actually agree with you. You have reminded me of this important distinction. There is an overabundance of men who are willing to have casual sex, usually. There are more than enough men to go around, so there is competition. This is granted. I would assume this is a minority of encounters, but I guess I don't have studies. For long-term relationships, there simply is no "contest" with winners and losers. There are approximately enough eligible women for every man who meets rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:46 PM
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Of course I do. I can't imagine a man who actually wants a relationship complaining about having to contribute slightly to that relationship. Of course the right sort of man isn't going to want to forego relationships. It's the men who don't want to lift a finger who will end up being single. Why? Because they don't care. Some men don't want a relationship that much. Check out the way the men on this sub talk about women sometime. No, women aren't going to wait on hand and foot to be spoken abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:38 PM
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Interesting perspective. I always looked at it asorw of a fantasy song. There are way more songs are about "bitches" and "pussy, money, weed." in the end, it's all just bragging or fantasy to puff the listener up. That happens in music. Just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:32 PM
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You sound bitter as hell, so that's unpleasant. I said men shit test. I never agreed that either gender tells controls the other. Testing and control are not the same. Can't change who a person is. They are who they are. All anyone can do is find out. Women controlling the field wouldn't even necessarily be intentional if it were true. You making that leap is what makes you sound bitter and hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 04:00 PM
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No, those aren't the only options at all. Men these days can find everything from casual sex ti marriages if they so choose. Men have many options. Opting out was something I brought up because it shows how men could control the entire system as a group if it was so unfair to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:58 PM
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You make some good points. While being not in debt is great, a home (fancy or not) is often a far better investment than a rental for years on end. Given my potential and fairly young age, for now I think I'm going to be aiming higher. I'm a woman, ny the way. My husband found out that he definitely has a limit on what he can do before burning out. He's attempting a sort of startup now, on his own terms. We will see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:55 PM
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nearly every woman interested in me, regardless of whether we dated even once, wanted to know about my sexual experiences Firstly, that is absolutely the opposite of what the original comment said. She said hearing about it would make her uncomfortable. alarmingly high amount of women evaluate men based on evaluations from other women. Secondly, it's not LVW wanting men that's the problem. It's the man wanting the LVW. My husband would straight up tell you he was making mistakes in his past and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:41 PM
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Smart people who work for millionaires and billionaires- at least the ones who have also acquired complex skills- are not mostly "poor." Somewhere around middle class is "enough" really. Not everyone has to be millionaires and billionaires. That being said, wealth inequality in the US is a serious problem. I know it can't be perfectly equal, but damn one would think we can do better than this. Other countries do, sooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:35 PM
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This is very similar to my answers. I like the way you worded some of this. Like "uncomfortable" versus "ashamed," I like that distinction. I also have been asked by my husband for things that other men might not have asked for. Like you, I assume some men would judge me for it if they knew. Good thing it's not anyone else's business. Pretty much the only thing I don't share with this comment is the "kink" factor. "Kink" is super subjective, but I don't consider myself kinky for sharing fun thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:32 PM
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Pick me, pick me, I'm poor lol. I have potential, but I'm just starting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:52 PM
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A song, also probably written as fantasy for men, is not an accurate representation of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:08 PM
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Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Men have agency. Men don't even have to date at all. There are men who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:07 PM
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Men blackmail and shit test, too. What even is a in test, really? Any time a person has to or should respond a certain way? Welcome to a social life. You and your male friends do the same stuff to each other, probably worse and more often. Of course the person you're dating wants to see who you truly are. This is the point of dating, it's the point for men too. Blackmail is just not normal/good behavior, yet I don't see a lot of women doing it. That's just my experience. I haven't seen a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:00 PM
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Lmao did you even read the context of my comment? I was saying that there are some men who leave virgin/ "not easy" women alone. I was saying that sometimes men do just want a "thot."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 12:49 PM
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"Red pilling" isn't at all what I would call telling the truth, but teaching people social realities is definitely important. Raising social skills is one part of the equation. Why build a new society, though? To save lives with access to Healthcare. To make people's bodies healthier with the right kinds of food and exercise. Because income inequality is so great that.some couples cannot afford basic necessities for their children, and because men don't have an equal playing field with women if …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 12:47 PM
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Tomi Lahren's video, for starters. The existence of FDS. The initiation of more divorces than men initiate. I can only explain that all these things are responses to men, in addition to the response of even dating a man who first approached. And your examples of men responding to women's standards are... chatting a woman up because she sat there and looked pretty?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:46 AM
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Yes I have. There is no ONE standard. Men set standards, too. Women respond to the standards, too. Women do not respond by "competing," but women respond in their own way for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:41 AM
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It changes everything. Men are not machines where you put sex coins in, and then out comes happiness. Men's responses are at least mostly independent. Men are independent. Men have agency, and they must be held accountable. Have sex all you want, I'm still gonna call you out on your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:35 AM
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Who says other men care about fucking as much as you do? There is a great variation, and that's coming from someone who has dated men. Oh, and I am conservative with my body. I did wait for my now-husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:24 AM
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Yeah, not all men (especially younger ones) want a long-term partner, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:12 AM
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Perhaps the prize is out-doing other man rather than the woman, because I sure don't see men adapting to wear well-tailored suits to candlelit dinners and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:09 AM
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If men are competing agaisnt other men for a prize men desire, how in the hell are women setting the standard? By being wanted? I mean, that's a reach. Men have the same level of discretion as women, only men also have more initiative to take charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:03 AM
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There is a correlation between those. Passive/responsive actions take time and happen when needed or well-suited. Assertive/initiative actions depend upon the discretion and leadership of the actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:56 AM
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My personal belief is that people do better finding a match when they filter out more of those that aren't a match. If one match is left standing, great. No society will ever reach a 100% match rate. In fact, some people don't even want certain types of relationships/sex. To increase the chance for people to find enthusiastic matches, you must ask yourselves the same questions you do about building a better society in general. How do we get people to best manage their mental and physical health?…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:56 AM
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Is a man or a woman more likely to slap in the face first? I'd say a woman... unless a man does some other act first. Men's "activeness" or aggression is also what leads to them being initiators rather than responders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:44 AM
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That is a helpful interpretation, and a worthy discussion to have. Thanks. I would argue, just based on anecdotal experience, that all the couples I know STILL had some traditional dynamics at least in the man approaching/ being actively interested. Some parts of tradition will never die. That being said, yes I think both men and women need to adapt to societal changes of what life partnership (or even just sex) means today. I definitely agree there. I think men have changed a bit, too. Instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:15 AM
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If you don't see the inherent likelihood that women are more likely to flee that fight due to biology, I cannot reason with you. If you do not see that women are more likely to poison their targets of rage than act out in violence, I cannot reason with you. These are common stats out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:10 AM
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Uhh I'm no schoolteacher I'm in STEM. But you best damn well bet I'm going to tell my neices or daughter, as well as future male generations, that it's a man's job to pursue women and a woman's role to respond. Why? I've lived life. Every damn time I even hinted at wanting a man, he was repulsed. The ones that wanted me came first, and that always just worked. Biology is still a thing today. That doesn't mean both sides don't need a little of the other mixed in, yin and yang style.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:03 AM
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Wars and fights are largely offensive pursuits. Women are more likely to flee/defend. Flight is responsive, fighting and war is aggressively taking something to another level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:00 AM
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That's a male-led thing. Men want the gal. The woman doesn't push the man at all. You really think women are out here telling a man what he needs to do to get her or stay with her? Not as far as I know, especially in my personal experience with men. They always lead for exactly what they want. I was extremely adept at telling the men who truly liked me from the men who just wanted sex or wanted nothing. Do you think that happened by me telling them what hoops they had to jump through? No. I let …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:57 AM
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Women literally don't pursue men, they wait for men to pursue. Women's sexual desire is largely more responsive in comparison to men's. Responsiveness is exactly a feminine trait. What in the hell did you think a feminine trait was? Prettiness and quietness? No, not at all. Responsiveness is the heart of feminine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:49 AM
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Lol whaaaat who have you ever heard that from...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:47 AM
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Why does it not occur to you that women are, in fact; also equally responding to men? I would posit that women "respond" moreso because women are feminine. That's a feninine thing. I am quite off-put by the men on PPD who seem to have that concept backwards, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:41 AM
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Of course I love my husband in particular, very much so. I married him when he was a delivery driver, and I pay my own way in life. In leisure, he gives me rare and affordable treats when he chooses to. You are right that I love him for him. You are also right in a sense that I fear being abandoned, but it's not in the way that you think. I would fear sexual abandonment from my one and only ever partner, if porn was a significant issue for him. Perhaps I am naive and inexperienced, or perhaps I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:07 AM
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I absolutely never said that all I gave was sex, although when I did give my husband sex it certainly wasn't meaningless. You are reading too much into shit. I've also given plenty else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:50 PM
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Lmao, this coming from dudes that always say "gotta try before you buy"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:57 PM
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No, no it wasn't. The egg does not swim to the sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:57 PM
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You're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:56 PM
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I'm semi-traditional. I am building a great career and my husband and I are childfree. He, however, has the responsibilities and the rights that come with being a leader in our lives. He chose where we live, he pursued me, he does what he feels like doing, and the stuff he wants he earns the money for. This is true for the most part. I do participate in discussions, but I'm not the driving force. I'm feminine, and he is masculine. I don't buy into a whole lot of gender roles, but I do believe in…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:21 AM
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What's so funny? My biggest argument for exclusivity and commitment is the fact that putting in the effort to pirsue has a greater return when said connection succeeds over a long period of time. This is an objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:16 AM
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At least everyone is aware, that's a very good thing. Definitely the opposite of what I always looked for. I looked for a man with the desire to pursue me and commit over time, and I found my wonderful husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:05 AM
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Thats crazy. Poor women. Pursuing you only to be discarded like worn out shoes. Glad you moved on from the dating world, everyone must be better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:03 AM
2

Lmao that doesn't surprise me, actually. I have seen some recent comments from you that are pure trolling. Do you "date" anyone, really? I could see the logic if you were not dating from apps because the competition is too tight for men on there. If you could match, though, it seems like it would be efficient because it's how the majority of connections are being made these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:48 AM
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This is surprising from the female perspective, and bordering on insecure. Gangbangs come and go, if that was even what happened in the first place. If a woman was on an app, of course she requires the services of the next man/set. Plenty of men would still want to be next in line. I would have thought you would be one of the available guys since you're really never looking for anything that might last. I, on the other hand, would have swiped left on suggestive pictures with a man and other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:16 AM
2

Pretty sure the word "stunting" is very common slang on Reddit, or at least on other parts of the internet and real world. There was nothing to be surprised about. It was either ignore you, or give my opinions I chose to give my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:45 PM
1

Clearly, I give 0 shits if you think I'm brilliant or not. I'm writing a research paper to be published, but this ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:39 PM
5

Nah I'm fugly lmao. Okay, joking aside, who has time to model on IG when she is pursuing a STEM career? Not me, tbh. I'm also not seeking validation or stunting for everyone. I've already caught the eye of my husband, I'm good. Most importantly, I'm not a big fan of this tech-filled world. I like to live my life IRL. I'm actually even cutting back on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:20 PM
5

This is tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:47 AM
1

I think you're mostly right, although what I perceive to be the difference in "mating strategies" is that women can control themselves while men cannot, or at least men often claim they cannot. See this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/iqzjqi/cmv_to_solve_the_relations_between_the_genders_we/g4wyyjn?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 I've heard far too many men say that a woman is insert pejorative term here, but "doesn't matter, gonna have sex," right? …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:45 AM
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Interesting....anecdotally, I find that you're right. It'a actually a HUGE challenge for men, which is why the dating apps have become so huge. However, personally, I can always tell the interested from the non-interested pretty early on. They make it clear, even if indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:43 AM
1

I'm probably being presumptive here, so I'll ask to be clear first. Is "more selective and have lower sex drives" code for "wants to wait a few months for sex and pursue a serious relationship?" Because, yeah, that's how I was. And yeah, it probably would have been easier for me to get sex than it was for a man. But "why men have trouble getting sex" wasn't the topic here. The topic was tensions between the genders. I, personally, don't have much to ass to a discussion about male sexlessness tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:39 AM
2

There's a happy medium. I'm sure it's a challenge over time to find that medium, but women have their challenges in dating too that often go unnoticed by men. Acting reasonably also doesn't always necessarily mean saying nothing. Wait for an opening, and be clear but not demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:25 AM
1

Catcalling. Is this supposed to be hard? This is a common complaint from women that tou have no doubt already heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:02 AM
1

When I put ambitious, I just meant at least being close to matching me is a strict requirement. My husband is very frugal, so if he didn't match me, he'd have me eating beans and rice every day and stuff like that. Sorry, that's not what I work for and I don't do that when I'm single. Gotta be able to at least support what I can on my own, and aim for a similar level of lifestyle. I put it right next to compatibility, because that's essentially what it is: lifestyle/financial compatibility. I ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:00 AM
1

I did marry pretty young. Being naive is probably my biggest risk factor. I am starting to truly know it, but I'm still so filled with hope. It's a blessing and a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:54 AM
2

If, or should I say when, men have the control to behave rationally, then men will be doing fine with regards to their relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:47 AM
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Even men who do these approaches do not always follow through. Men take practice, or they just get bored. Regardless, I'll say you might even be right. Many men have at least somewhat higher libidos than women. But is the difference so big that men literally cannot behave rationally? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:29 AM
1

Thank you. I wish you and your wife the same. Perhaps the regrets from your path can just become part of a journey leading to the exact right partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:27 AM
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This is so damn offensive. Sorry for the curse, but you are one of multiple people to make a ridiculous assumption. If you look at the post, you will see the context is about my husband's sex drive being lower. It is not mine! I did nothing wrong! God. With the way PPD men are, you would think they never had enthusiastic sex with a woman. Yes, women like sex. I like sex. Sometimes the man can be the problem with sex. Why would this be such big news?! Yes, what I gave my husband is a lot, thank y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:25 AM
1

That's a very interesting suggestion. Not at all what I expected from the other side, but interesting. I'll work on that. Under the circumstances, it may take time. Thanks though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:10 AM
1

Already married... do you really think my level of ambition reaches the top 10% of men? Do only the top 10% earn over 70k? I'm legitimately flattered that I gave off that strong impression haha. My man seems ambitious, but still working. Let's just say I do hope he can match me. He's got the degree to get him there, at least, and a pretty good plan. We have been stressed, but it motivated him. Even if he ends up leaving for a hotter woman, I'd be fine on my own. That is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:06 AM
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And guys imagine they would want to be a girl Yep. Crazy, innit? Well my husband and I have it better than you did before. I won't accuse him without very good cause, as I have good faith. If our history is any indication, though, the truth will come out eventually one way or another. Fixing our other problems right now takes first priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:03 AM
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Okay, get what you mean. Yeah I'm going to say I am maybe a 6? Also BTW, there is just something about Margot Robbie. Idk what it even is, but yeah. I realize I'm not being very convincing about not being sexually attracted to women, but I do find them aesthetically pleasing. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:01 AM
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Men should be the spark when they are in a relationship with the right woman. Not for easing tensions between regular social interactions with the opposite sex. Call me a prude, but regular social interactions with the opposite sex should not be overly sexual. That spark should be saved for the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:57 AM
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LOL Scarlett Jo is a 7? Damn... you harsh. I find the average woman kinda cute I guess? Hard to say a difference between 5 and 6, tbh. I was right before in that everyone's rating system can vary vastly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:56 AM
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Mostly correct, but I am white. Starting out in my real career a bit late, but STEM, so maybe upper-mid-tier? Starting salary range would be close to what you stated for most grads, we will see later for me. I was raised in that class level as well. Hard to know for sure until I get going with my own career. Age range almost fits- 26. I'm not full of myself, but as I was looking through my camera roll I was checking out the type of guy I get attention from. I must not be too bad. Better stay in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:54 AM
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Okay. First of all, I'm having to really think about this question. I am not a shallow or vain/self-centered person. I don't wear makeup or even shale my eyebrows usually. That alone means I'm not doing as well as I could be. I guess I would say 6, maybe? However, I'm also young, so I'm rating myself against a tough group. I can also see a wide variety of differing ratings depending on people's preferences. Not really even too sure about the number I'd give. Also not sexually attracted to women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:37 AM
1

"Curiosity"? If I answer, will you elaborate what in the world you're thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:15 AM
1

First of all, dude is the LL. Why do you automatically have compassion for him and not me? If I'm being honest, yeah we are in a crap situation right now, but I don't blame us or our love for it. A lot of people like to say "you can't know which side of the divorce statistics you'll land on" and "people these days just aren't that committed to making marriage work," but we are committed and we know it! I'm certainly not giving up easily. Second of all, everyone is different. I knew we were sligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:01 AM
0

Standards are a necessity for living a healthy life, and pretending otherwise is a problem. I understand not all women will be comfortable, and those women deserve the utmost compassion. Still, the goal of being comfortable with standards is always there for every woman on every day. If working toward physical fitness helps grow standards, sure, I'm all for that. It's healthy anyway. However, if it was taking time or just impossible for a woman to reduce to a small size, that woman's discomfort …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:52 AM
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Well, that was how it seemed to me. No one should have to wait til next month, til that college degree, or til they are a size 6 to feel "comfortable" setting a relationship standard. Women need standards here- now- today- at any weight. How am I getting downvoted?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:27 AM
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Not being leveled-up doesn't make it okay to settle for scraps. That's literally how pickme thinking works. That's the problem.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 01:19 AM
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She was justifying her right to find a partner she was attracted to by qualifying it with "because I am beautiful." This does imply that a non-gym-going woman doesn't also have the right to be attracted to her partner. We ALL do have that right- her looks are irrelevant, and should not have been brought up. Especially not on this sub where women support women and aren't demanding justification for anyone's standards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 12:55 AM
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If we all have a right, she shouldn't be trying to justify a special reason for her "rights." Especially not on this sub tbh. I don't mean to be harsh, but yeah.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 12:45 AM
1

You have accurately described how my generation feels. Wow. I'm actually about to show your quote to the husband lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:43 AM
1

A symbol is only part of what's important, although the symbol of a ring does bring certain expectations. If you try to give a woman a ring with no intent of legal commitment or no husband/wife label, you are likely to get some odd looks. "Fiancée" starts to sound weird to your families after the first few years. Just saying. Are you dating broke ass women compared to you, or are you just not interested in lifelong monogamy? Or are you trying to have only your name on the house with no legal tie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:43 AM
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Hell yeah! You go get your life on!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 12:25 AM
1

Thank you. I think it will lol. We have been through some crazy stuff so far. Good luck to you too in your life. I really admire you for bravely pushing past a problem you were having. Many younger these days don't even bother for their own well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:24 AM
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If you are coming from a place of "how do I get treated well," you are coming from a place of weakness to be honest. Being treated well should be a given if you are to participate in a relationship. The question you should be asking is: am I happy/satisfied? Judging by you saying you aren't "ooh'ng and ahh'ing," I think you might have a problem in the attraction department. Objective standards aren't the issue, but your own reactions are. I hate to ask you if you are a troll, but based on that, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/20 12:18 AM
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Interesting. Perhaps another way to describe "reactive" is "controlled" and another way to say "spontaneous" is "impulsive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:12 AM
1

Well, the man who has my heart is worth listening to and loving as long as he is putting in the honest effort. I wouldn't be so much a clown to try and force anyone to change, but I would listen if he was ready to change. There is a limit. I try not to be judgmental, but I'm not a circus clown either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:06 AM
1

Well, it does confuse me that a female would be chasing after some mystery male. It confuses me very much. Men are the pursuers for reason. They become set on what they want while women can be slightly more flexible in the beginning. A man who isn't clearly interested, is literally only good for dick. A woman who wants more is only setting herself up for pain by choosing community penis. Why would I not be confused by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:03 AM
1

I have tried talking about it. We have reached a conclusion for now that he has serious, stress-induced problems. We are dealing with the stress in our lives, and once we level up we can tackle the rest a bit more directly. I did communicate with him, and while your suspicions are entirely understandable, I trust him and I will as long as that proves reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:01 AM
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I did have my interests in mind, but it's not as though his interests are hurt here. We are financially equal now, childfree, and have contingencies in mind for if things do go awry. However, he cannot ghost me if things go wrong nor could either of us be kicked out of shared property if things were to go wrong. This is in everyone's interests. It never ceases to amaze me when men think women TRAP men into marriage. Do you think I proposed to him. How ridiculous! It was him who very much wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:58 PM
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The FDS way would be to move out! Coming from someone who has lived with in-laws...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/20 11:45 PM
1

My husband was a nice guy, and he got plenty of "results" tbh. He was the one being used by others, until he and I got together for life. I'm sure other men have different perspectives, but that's the type of story I typically see. Good lord, even one of the ugliest men I know isn't a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:37 PM
1

Woah woah. They love it? Then why you gotta keep it a mystery? Goes a long way to what? A long way toward you getting what you want, and her getting disappointed? That's what the word prick is for, bruv
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:35 PM
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See, the thing is, I try not to pry. I'm self-aware. I know that I wouldn't be okay with too much specifics on anything. That being said, a simple admission would have been appreciated if his habits are affecting our sex life. A simple admission, and caring to fix it. It sounds to me like you met that expectation for yourself. To me, that's the bare minimum any man could do if he was struggling. I would be a shit wife to climb up here on the internet and say my husband has a problem, when he ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:24 PM
1

Oh, he says he flat-out doesn't watch anymore at all. Won't get more into it, as he isn't here to defend himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:14 PM
1

I must admit, it's better than having been with other men before to have all those connections end in disappointment. There is a very good reason I chose what I chose. Has nothing to do with alpha/beta bullcrap, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:12 PM
1

Lol the internet is probably going to come after me now...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:09 PM
2

Oh fucking whoop hee. Greeeeat... just want I wanted after giving up my virginity and intermingling my entire life with a man in my prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:08 PM
1

Masculine men were always the bare minimum for me, but I still never had sex until I met my life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:07 PM
3

He's only 26. porn is also sublimating a lot of that desire. This damn well better not be true to my life. I gave him my everything. I'm not looking at videos of huge, strong men while I get off. This is not acceptable to me. Period. I like to think it doesn't have to be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:06 PM
1

You can't convey it, bro. I'm married. We do NOT have sex 3 times per week. Not even 2, and we are stuck in quarantine together. I will not be convinced that all man have some innate high libido. Is it possible that these high-libido men you speak of are not so much average?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:01 PM
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Yeah, it's still morally dubious to hope a woman will literally break her rules for you at her own self-proclaimed expense. Especially when you get into the territory of creating "imaginary air castles" basically just to get access to things you were never meant to access. Go on a few dates to see where it goes, I can get that. No one will blame you. Just don't shit talk women who decided to wait when YOU ASKED for the dates without so much as considering it. Also don't look for other people to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:58 PM
1

Also worth noting that the men who care about looking for the same things are not pricks. Pricks are the ones who date a woman who is openly looking for a more serious relationship, hoping to manipulate a pump and dump instead. In my little bubble of being a woman, what I hear is that the manipulative pricks are much more common. What I see from TRP is also very selfish and even flat-out angry. they will dump when they realize there is no pump. How hard is it to talk about it on the first date i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:49 PM
1

How the hell would a man know about a woman's past toilet BJ's? Not a man, but I can't imagine that's nearly as common as TRP men seem to claim it is. If a man on a 3-date rule wants a slut, he would be an absolute prick for choosing to waste the time of a woman who openly is looking for more. Facts is facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:36 PM
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When I was young- very, very young, 12-15, I may have given some hints or spread through the grapevine that I thought a handful of boys were cute. There were no overt moves, even. I STILL managed to get severely burned! Shit ain't natural. Even when making things too easy for the man, I always regretted it later because it puffed up their ego. I was rarely ever the desired woman after that, maybe for a couple of minutes at most. I advise against making it too easy for the man at all costs. Like …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/20 10:32 PM
15

The majority of men don't have to reduce a damn thing. They have to control it. I have intense attraction to men- I am straight. Somehow, I've never started at a strange man's package, assaulted anyone man, or pressured any man into giving me the time of day. I have even turned down Chads due to loyalty or bad vibes! Men just need to learn how to do that. Honestly, it beats me how you all haven't figured it out already. I know how to control myself despite seeing some men as attractive. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:28 PM
1

To a man who desires a pump and dump, a nonsexual relationship is a weed in the garden of his well-being. To a woman who needs love and deeper connection, a one-night-stand is a weed in the garden of her well-being. You can call it "parting ways," but it's the same shit. I will concede that calling the whole person a "weed" is uncalled for/arrogant, but whatever. The point is that taking person responsibility for cultivating your own well-being is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:15 PM
3

I was born in the Bible belt in a red state lol. You could have a point about location. I am quite sane, I think. I'm certainly the level-headed one in my relationship. Traumas exist for women, even me. I'll be the first to admit. My traumas did not consist of consensual sex or love, though. I am also 100% capable of facing my traumas without inflicting pain on a partner. Even without commitment/exclusivity, knowing someone consistently for 3+ months (often more) guarantees a less "casual" exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:01 PM
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Seeing as how TRP claims that waiting 3 months for sex is "controlling" or "abusive," and those pricks literally weed themselves out well before that time, your so-called "imaginary air castles" are quite useful. There is a huge, tangible dfference in between those who have sex without even knowing a first name and what I did with my now-husband. There just is. You'll know it when you see it, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 07:22 PM
1

Lol on Reddit? What are you, crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:46 PM
2

Woman Compatibility - My single life was compatible with me, myself, and I. If you can't match that, why would I consider ending my single life? Ambition - Again, I am ambitious in my single life. If you do not match around that level, why would I even consider ending my wonderful single life? Relationships don't work when people are permanently living at two different levels, and I'm not quite that well-off to be a sugar mama. Even if I was, that feels demeaning. Ambition is harder to vet for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:54 PM
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I had my husband pay 100% rent for a while, and I kept my earnings in my own account. It was fair at the time, but it wouldn't always be fair for a 2-incime couple. I've also had times where we put almost everything together except a small emergency fund for me. The bills and other purchases all came from a joint account. We did have to consult each other on larger purchases, which is fair, but a HVM won't be overbearing when you do consult him. Vet for that generosity, and recall that this is p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/20 07:33 AM
2

I've literally never seen screenshots of women putting "6' or taller" on a profile. I never HAD a profile, let alone would I do that. My husband ISN'T over 6'. If COURSE men aren't supposed to put down "I want a busy woman," though I've seen plenty screenshots of men saying "no fatties." Are you advocating for such behavior? I have standards with character and so does my husband. I am his best woman; a hell of a lot better than anyone else he met. We are much younger than 40, but we are both suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:21 AM
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You don't know a damn thing. Quit insulting random people. The irony is that here you stand on the internet telling anyone and everyone to flee from women, but if I have one (1) preference, you lose your mind. Literally everyone has their limits. Are you into ball crushing, or even pegging? Are you into a starfish sex? Probably not. This is life. Don't get butthurt when women are people with desires, too. You have every right to stick with a mindless sex doll. What I and my husband do, however, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:16 PM
0

A sexy man married me, so ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:58 PM
3

Yeah. My husband had a past before me. I don't. Sorry, he doesn't get a penis pass. His minimal past still makes me somewhat uncomfortable. I deal with it because he's actually a really good man, and it doesn't have to mean anything. People grow and move on. He certainly learned from the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:08 AM
1

To each his own, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 10:15 PM
2

No. Repsect is sexy. He had plenty of sluts before me, and they weren't all that great. He chose a Madonna (I was a literal adult virgin when we met) over all others. Neither of us would have it any other way, unless I am mistaken about him. Human beings aren't property, and pretending otherwise is a huge red flag of a psychopath tbh. That also would give me PTSD flashbacks. He could say "oh you're mine now, you stone cold fox" and that would be hot. I AM his, body and heart, because I choose to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 09:18 PM
1

Depends. If he goes too hard it would trigger my PTSD from when I was literally assaulted more than once. He knows, and I don't think he's ever pushed too hard. He knows I usually use enthusiastic consent. I won't do any "fighting" on something I actually want. I still like him to push for it, though. He is the man, is he not? If he was to go too soft, I'd call off the action because I think HE doesn't want it. Once again, he is a man. If he's not physically making moves, something isn't right. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:19 PM
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No. I was a virgin when I met my husband, and honestly quite scandalized by premarital sex. I was a prude, and I was sheltered. It was a female friend who aksed me in front of my husband "who is abstinence anyway?", so I was like "Yup, me, I am." And that was how my husband knew. It made things awkward because he was, well, not always abstinent. Anyway, I would not have offered that information so easily if I had the opportunity to undo it. No good comes from such debates/discussions. Just look …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:47 PM
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I think that's really beautiful. As a married woman building up a Kingdom of our own every day as we love forward in our life together, I would like to add that it's not as much about what outsiders see. Yes, protect the perceived image of your family/clan, by all means. Never publicly shame one another. That is less than the bare minimum, however. Even your "commoners- friends, acquaintances, and coworkers- should not humiliate you without consequences. Your King needs to go above and beyond. H…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 07:30 PM
3

Dog sitting for 5 days to a week is a much bigger commitment than picking you up from the airport. Also, 1) you can ask for a ride to the airport well in advance, and 2) if he flakes you can always get a friend, a cab, or a rideshare. I would even ask a friend for something like that. Dogsitting, for example, is a much bigger deal. You can't trust a near stranger with your puppy or your house keys. Basically, it all depends on the favor. Asking for something you wouldn't give in return is also a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/20 10:13 AM
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So I am married to an HVM. I am as committed as possible, and he is worth it. We here all know that any LV-acting man would not be worth it. That being said, things change and people change. Never let your guard down. Always be on your toes and evaluating how a man is behaving in the present. No amount of high value past can guarantee a high value present or future. It can make it more likely, but no one can ever give you a guarantee. Stay safe out there, ladies.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:50 PM
26

Does he have a brother or a cousin I could introduce some female friends to? Lmao!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/20 02:13 PM
2

When it comes to cheating or leering, best you can do is find a unicorn who can successfully channel his primal urges in the most healthy ways. I hope your current connection keeps working out for you in this way. Side notes 1) I'm sure you are plenty beautiful seeing as how you've had relationships. A smart woman like you doesn't seem like she would have had sex with a man who wasn't that into her. 2) Even men who might cheat or sleep around can still keep their eyes to themselves on the street…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:48 AM
1

LOL decent men want my friendship, and the friendship of most women. Don't get it twisted, we don't have to beg or pout or anything. This is merely an observation about one commenter. The commenter's judgment also wasn't about me, but about ALL women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:27 AM
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If this was on an open tab or something like that, she would not have even had to press play. She also said WOMEN, so it's more than likely that the tab was open and multiple videos were on a search page literally showcasing women in pain as the preview images. This is also the type of search that would have been typed in on a pornography website. Is it more likely that these pornsick people left their tab open, or that this teenage girl went to those sites for fun on other people's phones? Come…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/20 04:24 PM
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YOU watched it? Oh damn, problem. Meanwhile the same commenter utterly brushes past the fact that the 2 men not only watched it, but searched it out for getting off. Also, and I'm about to comment this separately, but the minute a video pops up there WILL be a preview image- whether intentional or not. If this was on an open tab or something like that, she would not have even had to press play. She also said WOMEN, so it's more than likely that the tab was open and multiple videos were on a sear…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/20 04:21 PM
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but refused to see a prostitute and died of old age a virgin? The odds of this happening must be extremely, extremely low unless it was fully due to a man's own choice. The vast majority of men can find sex once they are prepared in life- not just jacked up on teenager hormones, but truly prepared. Without knowing the specifics of the situation, I would have to assume is a man's choice. Even making the choice to not have occasional relationships is rare, so I would probably question this if it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 07:52 AM
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You know.... build societies.... create stuff..... things like that. Women have also created many things. A lot of the gap is in hard manual labor. Men are physically stronger: more news at 10. Bear in mind that women have their own version of necesaary, low-skilled labor. What you call women's "support role" is contributing. There is no "support" versus "main work." Every contribution to society is necessary and/or helpful, and that's honestly important to realize. Men's work ALSO supports wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:53 AM
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Hahaha.. have you been here long? Men on this sub really do say that. It is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:14 AM
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Thank you for the agreement lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:57 PM
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A man who doesn't show interest early on is a no-go. Actually, pretty much anything less than straightforward and open communication is a no-go. Asking for nudes isn't being nterested though, that's just common behavior for a man skank. Man skanks are also a no-go. Took me some time to realize that both sexual obsession and lack of ambition are common problems, and I want nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:58 PM
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I have always been a huge fan of Prince Phillip. He was repectfully but clearly interested from the start. He was a great dancer, and he planned a future together with Briar Rose on his own accord despite objections from his family. All of this is close enough to the bare minimum, but then he fights a dragon to save both his love and their future together. That's about as high value as it gets. An unconscious kiss is normally rapey, but not a small one when your significant other is in a coma. E…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/09/20 11:24 AM
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Aha, so I was right that you don't have male friends in the sense that I am typically used to. I don't consider friendship to mean texting every day, having someone over for dinner, or helping them move. I personally think you can be friends by talking within a hobby group or by going to block barbecues/ college parties. If I'm friendly with someone and we interact for a while, I pretty much consider them a friend. I'd support their dreams, wish them well, laugh with them, and whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:53 AM
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It's just a little weird to be stating "I don't need a woman" when you're talking about friendship. Friendship happens for fun within social groups, not because you have a need and go out looking for friends of a particular gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:01 AM
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You know full well what dehumanizing means, and if you didn't you have the entire worldwide web at your disposal. Stop assuming that I must be evil (like assuming that I want to believe men don't have rights) because I'm a woman. That's the same asshole behavior I called you out for in the first place, I can't believe I'm even bothering with you. The comment I made before this was in response to you saying that the previous woman wanted to be WORSHIPPED by men. That was never the point. She simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:59 AM
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Then I guess you don't have any male friends either, because women can be just as good as friends. If you're not secually starved and find some women unattractive even, then you have no reason to NOT socialize with women. We do not have cooties or whatever. We are actually okay people. Surprise Surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:54 AM
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You don't see women as platonic? I can tell you were trying to use your words very carefully here, but you have failed. You cannot possibly be attracted to 100% of women. Peep the comments from other (mkre normal and decent) men on this thread and you will see that not being sexually "starved" could and would change your mindset. Are you a virgin, or like, what? I don't get it...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:39 PM
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Today I learned that wanting to not be literally invisible is the same as wanting to be worshipped. Women are humans too, just as capable as being good friends. It IS sad that the sort of man who thinks otherwise even exists. Never forget that it was that sort of man really started this scenario by dehumanizing the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:38 PM
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Some relationships don't have a dynamic where they are sharing a load/life. Sometimes a couple is pursuing goals individually, but they are also meeting up in the middle. Every relationship is different. That's why what you call your significant other is totally between you and your significant other.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/09/20 09:09 PM
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which is inherently a temporary arrangement now rather than a life time one 50% does not equal "inherently." Self-knowledge of this sort would actually be beneficial to all involved. Yes. BUT enjoying fun date activities with a member of the opposite sex that you actually like does not require monogamy. No, but monogomany is considered a separate potential benefit for many men and women alike. Living together with one partner is also a totally separate potential benefit. I was listing benefits o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:30 AM
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You are right for men who only want sex. That's the point. I didn't want to be a literal free prostitute. That' what the phrase means. I am worth more than my body.. I don't want to be seen as a sexual release only valued for how attractive I am. I was looking for an actual LTR with someone who enjoys my company. I found what I wanted even though you think those don't "make sense" for men. Maybe you're just not into it, but there are definitely upsides to staying with one partner, living with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:40 AM
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No way to know which kind of marriage adventure a given one will be. There totally is a way to know to a large degree of certainly. There's not a way to completely eliminate the possibility of a breakup if that's what you mean. In that case, just don't make it to where you have an expensive and awful divorce. Keep a plan in place, like separate accounts and fairly equal shares of childcare/financial contribution. Either that or suck it up and realize that alomony is the price you pay for asking …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:40 AM
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Stick around or go. Doesn't matter to me. I will, however, let you know thay my husband does not love off crumbs. He gets so much more of everything from me than he ever got from his flings before me. Those women possibly waited for some time, but none waited like I did. And I give more. I selfishly like to have that acknowledged, of course. It's also worth discussing for men to know, but arguably rare enough to be unreliable. I get that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:43 PM
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in your experience, do manwhores - I’m talking about dumpster divers - get respect and accolades from other women? It doesn't have to do with how the women look conventionally. Allow me to absolutely ditch your shitty rating system. If the guy speaks poorly of women he is with, he loses value. If HE says a lady is not that attractive, he looks pathetic. If HE says she is desperate and/or crazy, he looks pathetic. A man who demeans the very people in his bed is the definition of a man whore, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:39 PM
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He is sounding a bit pushy and controlling here. It's one thing to plan for sharing finances or other future possibilities. It's quite another to presume without asking when your money is on the line. If you feel he makes a habit of trying to control you with things like this, I recommend that you run away fast. If he is a genuinely good man who is planning for a future that you don't agree to, I recommend having that conversation to him. I like a very drama free life myself. There will be a lot…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/09/20 05:40 PM
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Why do I stay with my husband? Can't call it a long time, but for my age it certainly has been a very long relationship. We are still young. Idk what other men are out there, not really. How could I when I am putting my time into building my career and my marriage with my partner? I have fun and shared goals with my husband. It is always worth it to come home to him instead of meeting other men. It's always worth it to talk to him instead of texting others. I don't even question whether he is "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:56 PM
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I have no idea why she would even break bread with you since you have the audacity to call a woman "uptight" if she doesn't want to have sex with just any superficially passable man on the day of meeting him. I'm not particularly hot, but do you have ANY idea how high my number would be if I did that? So damn high, way too high...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:10 PM
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Because the act of not having sex is neither uptight nor "making a man dance like a trained monkey." What, is having rabid sex the core if your identity? Waiting to ge tested, or waiting a few months until you can be sure of where things are going, is nothing in the grand scheme of things. It shouldn't even be considered questionable, let alone hard work. You are a married man now. Ever had a loud and sleepless newborn in the house? Ever lost a parent or a close family member? Ever been seriousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:08 PM
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My point that you selected for a certain type of woman meant that you probably stopped pursuing women who wanted to wait. You probably only focused on women who had sex on the first day. Why would I assume that? Because you never once waited and plenty more women would have gladly selected you for a time if you were willing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:37 PM
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You still had to choose her! See, this is the problem. Be strong, dare I say even masculine. Own what you want and be set on it. Don't say "women are the selective sex" just because you got turned down 1000X before and you'd take most women. You married one woman, just one. She didn't draft you or something. You probably are even the one who proposed. I'm married as well, so I know as well as anyone that it takes 2 to work to make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:35 PM
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I wouldn't say the planning is even rhat hard, but a bit of enthusiasm and thought is great. Even something like a simple "So this dish at so-and-so restaurant reminded me of you because you like strawberries. We should go and get you some!" shows real thoughtfulness. My best dates were things like a church festival, a couple of my favorite bars (with food and music), and mini golf. Why would a silly bar and food count as some of the best dates? Well, I was in love. Anyway... mini-golf at the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:54 PM
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Men do the approaching and pursuing. Take 2 to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:28 AM
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Defo sounds like you selected for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:17 AM
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On the literal first day? To a stranger? That is extreme. Not a lot of women do that, I know I didn't. Yes, even to a a man I was attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:09 AM
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My father had a couple of those marriages. They ended in divorce. He also had 2 that waited to know each other. Those lasted (my mother until she died, and his new current wife). My husband had casual to semi-casual sex with women who treated him like trash and kicked him out after. Who did he marry? Me, the one who waited. I haven't believed this to be coincidence, although I also haven't done intentional research. This is what I would continue betting on until it really fails. I don't even lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:30 PM
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Also true, although showing your plans too early us not strategic. Wouldn't have promised a date until I was trying to get tested and actually knew it was the guy I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:18 PM
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I’d entertain it, perhaps, if she was cool and someone I wanted to be around but if you’re cute and boring, I’ll pass on the friendship. Exactly this. We want to.weed out men who find us boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:09 PM
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What tf kind of man wants to marry a woman who has sex with a man on the first day? Isn't that pretty likely to lead to a very large n-count seeing as how cheap and easy men are? Y'all are not special. There are a lot of good looking men out there. Most of those men aren't even good for a lay, though, because they won't put any effort in from what I hear. Yes, a man with half a brain will pass on women who just give it up like that. Or if they do find a woman like that and even have sex, the jer…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:06 PM
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If your only goal is "more/better sex," it doesn't make sense to listen to women. If your goal is something more long-term, the sex can still be just as good and it pays to listen to the woman you are with. It won't be as easy, but some men find many different benefits from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:01 PM
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I mean, yeah I argue part it is. Taking away my choice to consent to the terms kf the relationship is highly disrespectful and shows that an equal relationship is off the table. Literally asking for monogamy and then breaking it shows a level shows a selfish attitude where it's only what the person did that matters. And, finally, you get to the point where your LTR is waiting for a text back and she hasn't had sex in a month, but you have just been with your side piece. To expect her to believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:36 PM
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You mean women don't continue to even be around someone they call an unpleasant harpy or a scrote? Yeah, pretty much. Women , especially those who follow FDS strategies, actually value the men they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:23 PM
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Doesnt "understand"... that is some bullshit. Being careful with your health is important no matter the statistics. Any man who goes out and bangs 100 women, only to not even TALK about getting tested before putting mr at risk, is an asshole and should not be anyone's partner. Especially not a nice girl who only slept with 1 guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:54 PM
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I'm 26. This might be getting worse over time, but it also is because that I'm a woman. I don't understand common male problems in the same way a man does. It takes finding the right person and a bit 8f time to get everyone on the same page, at least that was what I found. There are a lot if equal and opposite problems for men that I simply didn't have reason to consider until I talked to men a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:53 AM
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I am sex positive. Like "real life sex with a human you care about" positive. That's what I believe in more than anything. In my personal relationships, even with men who maybe made a mistake or 2 before, I need ti see evidence and get that they are on my side. Everyone wants to have a partner who is on the same page, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:07 AM
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You can never know what the chances are, but paying with your own money (and your partner's) is a literal investment. In mt opinion, it is one with a very very poor return. That's why it is silly. Are most men who have OF subscriptions REALLY concerned about the ethics? Call me jaded, but I would not trust this. For a partner who actually is married to me and shared finances, it would be a red flag to me. Even for a boyfriend, the subscription would imply getting his money's worth and signal lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:03 AM
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Did I imply that I rely on my husband financially? I'm sorry, this is absolutely not the case. His current investment is made not because I am dependent but because he literally boxed us into living here on his own. I don't feel like I should have to pay for a situation chosen by him to benefit him. I do stay with him and accept his gifts more often in this time, only because he asked me to and I love him. I am.getting a STEM degree while HE is the one who is starting work from home. We have equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:50 AM
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I'm married. We are fine, thanks for asking I guess? Not, but I digress. Where there is a sexually broken relationship, people should just leave. Porn is available free, and doesn't need to be paid for. To use money on it IS frivolous, by definiton. It is like paying for air or something to me. I'll admit that most things people want have some sort of validity, and that should be acknowledged by a partner. Frivolous isnquite a judgmentak wordd. That said, an Only Fans is probably one of the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:41 AM
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That's an interesting view. I never thought of Mr. Darcy, for example, as being objectified. When he was acting like a jerk, he got called out like a full, human person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:32 AM
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It's always the beginning that has the troubles, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:30 AM
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I tend to agree, honestly. I had to make that clear to my husband. We reached a compromise, and on my end at least I am still able to have my great career.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:27 AM
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Apparently people are messed up. Also, fads are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:22 AM
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Oh, it can definitely be a problem. I was actually experiencing negative thoughts and feelings during a show last last night. Had to turn it off and go be with my hisband just to feel better. 24 hours later, we are good. Self-policing and effort are key. It has to.go.both ways as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:21 AM
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In real life, people like me and my husband do committ to lifetime monogamy. My parents did after they met. It happens, and I will admit that it's less than it should be. However, these subs and places like them are likely to give an even bleaker view of reality than what is true. Maybe remembering that will help. However, maybe I am biased because I am one of the few.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:18 AM
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Although, to be fair, I am pretty sure romance novels don't affect sexual function/a real sex life. That's one component that is not equal. Women can read that and be 100% ready to go. Men will have a refractory period that is almost certain to be used up from one porn session. Also, real live people aren't used and abused in the making of books.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:14 AM
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Hmm, that's weird. Not sure I've heard porn being vilified that often except in places on Reddit and stuff. Otherwise, sexual messaging is literally everywhere and no one says a word or actually stops it. I did say something about 50 shades to the ladies on my sports team, btw. It was... gross...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:11 AM
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Define "FDS woman." I personally think there are many different kinds of women who use some such strategies and/or who participate in the sub. I've hear it referred to as a hivemend cult, but as someone who actually speaks to women as a woman, I disagree. I was married long before I even knew about the sub. I was always against casual sex. I was only with my husband, and that took well over 6 months. I was not agaisnt paying for my share of things much of the time. I wouldn't have called it a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:09 AM
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Lol we have ways. Some guys masturbated to food packages that had women on it. Some guys use their imaginations. It's all based on that wiring to be polyamorous. I mean, that's not a problem if the guy is really controlling his impulses to not be a problem for me whilst he is trying to be with me. I get it. If you or your husband had a relationship before you, you are already serially monogamous. I never had sex before him. He did, but that is no longer the arrangement we have. We are now marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:53 AM
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Well I'm not trying to date anyone, so yeah. Why is this even a red flag? You know what, whatever. You're a man. You would never understand a woman being at least the slightest bit aware to avoid a dead bedroom or porn induced erectile dysfunction. No, I'm not saying it's okay to monitor or hook a guy up to a lie detector for this. I'm also not saying that a man with 4 different tabs open right in front of you should be acceptable, especially when your own IRL love lives have problems. I've talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:46 AM
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Uh, honest answer? If it's 50 shades, I would not be interested in said woman. I would not consider myself a "big fan" of any. I've read maybe 3 a year. Any man is welcome to see that as a red flag. I would understand the logic more than "wow she slept with like 4 guys in 7 years! She must be a slut who only wears Chad!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:37 AM
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I never said a man has to prove himself. Both people will watch and see, but the thing is, once you're already dating you should probably already gave a mostly positive view about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:34 AM
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why doesn't she encourage them to seek partners who would do their share equally? Men don't like this. Many make enough money and even work a few more hours, so they are happy to make money their biggest contribution. This is fully men's choice as far as I can tell. Many don't marry and value women with busy, financially lucrative careers. This is just how it is still, especially with children involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 02:46 AM
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Even if you were to physically give your husband a handy whenever he gets a boner, he will occasionally think of someone else in his head. Thoughts are involuntary and literally can't bother me if he doesn't make it obvious, which would also be a problem if he did. He could also be pleasing me at that time. To turn to porn while I get nothing for too long, or limp dick and lack of enthusiasm when I try? Problem, and no, I will not "compromise" that far. You are right, people can control their vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 02:29 AM
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You lost me at "men are biologically wired to be polyamorous." Those men can go find someone else, and I can do my own thing. He had a much higher drive when we met tbh. What would you have me do if you are right. Accept it cheerfully because all men do it? Remain unsatisfied with the only man I ever shared my body with? Nope, sorry, can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:53 AM
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Even in a marriage you would think men all do this or they are lying? Im actually married. He's not religious, and I'm not even going there about ED. He's only 26, so if he has it, it isn't natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:42 AM
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All it takes, isn't it? Then why are you and I talking if nothing I say can have any point? Seriously!! Ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:29 AM
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Yeah synonyms can also be bad and a thing. That doesnt make it any less important to call out the bullshit I see. For the females I try to advise in FDS, casual OLd f-boy types usually say "vibe" according to their screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:29 AM
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Vibe is still more likely to.come from a surfer dude type. That being said, breaking it off is a red flag alright! Even then, usually people just say "this isn't working out, we shouldn't see each other anymore" than droning on about vibes. I admit not all the time, but just from what I have seen. I posted about it because it can't hurt to be aware of it. Some younger or more inexperienced women need guidance to rell why a sentence and a claim is a red/orange flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:17 AM
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Literally not cheating and hiding things and overusing porn is the bare minimum for a husband. Blaming the wife as a default just proves that women are treated extra badly, apparently mostly by men like you. Good thing I don't think he is like you. He actually made me feel better from the fact that you pulled this crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:09 AM
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Yeah, he says it is stress from other family in this QUARANTINE situation. Very stupid accusation about me being a prison guard in times like this. He is, however, free to go try to make time somewhere else if he can. He is also free to leave me. He was free to not propose. He would be free to talk to me if I was a problem. None of that has happened, and for you to fully expect him to not communicate is a super low expectation. It is a penis pass for men absolving the need to communicate, and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:04 AM
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Depends on the use. I'd say trying to point your "chemistry" feelings is usually talking it to death because something is off, like the guy ONLY wants a casual fun encounter or he isn't fully feeling it yet. It's a lot more likely to be a red flag, yeah. Or at least a yellow flag if everything is is going great and the context is not troublesome. "Vibing" is also a surfer dude free spirit word, which... usually means casual guy with a teenager's mindset. Not always, okay? Just mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:58 AM
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I personally would only say "scrote" about a man who tried to make me into a doormat or use my body and pressure me into things that are bad for me. Not for not uh "tolerating my bullshit." What bullshit, exactly? I don't demand things. Doesn't mean I'm okay with my husband leering at other women instead of being with me. Like you said, not all feminine women are doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:31 AM
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Oh, also, picking and choosing is not about moulding a man. Ideally, no one should try to change another person. I don't. If it isn't working, I don't try to force it and I just go my own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:23 AM
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I want a feminine woman, narcissism and big egos in women are repulsive. Narcissism and big egos are absolutely not the only alternative to being a complete doormat who likes it when men ask her to prove herself and flaunt their porn use in her face by following certain IG accounts. You are the one who wants a doormat, and you projected onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:19 AM
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Spending yes, but OF subscriptions? Come on. Most married dudes don't care for that Yes. I am married. He had better not care for Only Fans. That is exactly my point. Even a gaming computer isn't entirely useless like Only Fans is. He has a wife with him literally every day now. you nitpick and push the boundaries and hope the man is desperate enough to go along with your demands. Typical FDS mentality. Yeah that's what vibes mean but no mature, adult man says it like that. Not nitpicking, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:16 AM
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Look, I get it. As a young man, almost all men did at least once. I'm not stupid. As long as I didn't know about it and it wasn't thrown in my face, not much I can do I guess. Now that I'm married, I'm around my husband all the time. I ought to know. Plus he is the LL one, so in my case it would be hugely disrespectful. I no longer have to even entertain the possibility of dealing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:07 AM
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Talking about vibes in context of a romantic connection IS a red flag for pretty much any man over 20. I'm not a teenager anymore. Being active on FDS does not make me any less serious. If you think being with a man who jacks it to porn aand wasted his money on frivolous things is okay, you are entirely the poster who shouldn't be taken seriously. You cannot understand the female experience of being put in second place to porn. It isn't okay for ANY serious woman, not just me and FDS people. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:03 AM
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Honestly? While dating in the early stages, probably extreme not to watch once a month, but a lot of men also overdo it. While in the majortity of my marriage, it would be an entirely reasonable and necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:51 PM
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Woman here. Would not be with someone who buys. I would neither be with someone who jacks it to porn nor someone who flushes their money down a toilet. Someone who found a way to do both at the same time? Forget about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:26 PM
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Men are definitely loved for their essence as well, and many men who have loved me appreciated (8n part) my intellectual ability. It was great, yeah, 10/10 recommed. Lovely to see the look on a man's face when he can't believe you brought up that smart point, or when he loves the poem/story I wrote. Nothing better than when he watches me dance and admires the skill. Well, I've never been THAT great a dancer, but you get the point. It's nice to be impressive. Everyone should be impressed with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:50 PM
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Respect is only one part of attraction. What if you are getting unwanted attention? As someone who has been in that position before, I say leave as quickly as possible. If not possible, do the "you're like a sister to me" and "so I was on a hot date the other day, and the craziest thing happened!" Most women are not so forward, so honestly, I suggest you measure your ideas of what this attention really is and what it really means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:51 PM
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Women ARE rising more to management positions... probably for the cheaper labor tbh? I heard that stat about management positions on this sub, although I will admit to not being an expert on economics or reasoning. Are women supposed to avoid buying women's clothing, which does costs more than men's? Even if you singlehandedly go around telling women they look great without makeup, you're probably not going to change the culture of many women getting actual benefits for wearing it. On a date, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:29 PM
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that's why we still get genuine nice guys because they haven't yet suffered and been taught how the world works now Well that kind of says it all for you, doesn't it? Nah, I'm sure whatever small snippet I put online can't change your mind about the entire world. I'm still pretty sure that saying no the first couple of times is exactly enough to show how I wasn't eager to "use" someone for the cost of a first date. It's enough to describe my experiences. Maybe I did sort of exaggerate when I sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 03:52 PM
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Queen energy! Science! You are honestly an amazing role model for this. Kudos.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/20 09:27 AM
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So, then, for the longest time, they were what I described? These men aren't even married, according to you. They can and will go back at any time. They are what I said they are. Why should a woman trust them, especially if they won't "yield" on the tiniest thing? Not sure what these men even think they are beint asked to "yield" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:33 AM
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Also, "worshipping" a human is not helathy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:12 AM
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Uh, those are just strong men. By RP men, I was talking about men who actually seek to have immediate sex with women and discard them soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:11 AM
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I don't think you fully understand what "hypocritical" means. You're actually right. I guess I really meant contradictory. Not every woman that we ask out is nice, or wants to go on a date with us, or is even mentally sane, but we're still expected to ask anyway. I will argue that this untrue. You should ask out someone who have vetted a bit, at least someone who seems nice and sane for several.cinversations first. That's just my opinion, but that's what I would expect. didn't really talk about …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:43 AM
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So women are only reacting or responding to the situation instead of trying to actively make a connection. I got that part already. I'm just wondering why they're like that. And men are only approaching or interested in women who initially stand out as well. This is life. it seems like they are boring. Even more if we try to make the conversation fun by asking interesting questions and they respond with a boring answer, or in an uninterested way. Yeah, there are going to be women who dont click …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 07:21 AM
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I couldn't agree more. 60% of medical graduates were Jewish at one point, and that's when all this started in the US. This doesn't happen in other developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:52 AM
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Well he stays married to me even though I'd just give him our assets and the chump change if he wanted to separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:51 AM
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See, from a female perspective, I would have just assumed that men actually enjoy jackhammering since they do it. Don't even get me started on ED, I can't even talk about it. Sometimes it sucks having limited knowledge about my partner's body. The internet doesn't help in this case as much as it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:48 AM
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That's a great start for any parent, but for women specifically this might help mothers more than it would help fathers to get on board. I first learned about the effects that appear when a man grows up. Then I learned how the positive health effects are very minimal. Then I learned how about how botched surgeries can literally ruin a boy's/man's life, or at least cause health problems in younger years. Then I learned how it affected sex for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:46 AM
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Well, none of us know what is really off. I didn't know about the parts that affected me until my husband got really deep into research. If women knew how it affected sex for a woman, I don't think they would push so hard. Jackhammering hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:40 AM
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Haha that's hilarious because my husband chased me for months to get me on one of those dates, and I have loved him and supported him for years since.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:38 AM
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No. I claimed to know what a particular subset of men that I know and care about experience. I know what is super common enough to become a stereotype. That is what I know. Women using men for like a couple of dates isn't a stereotype and isn't that common from what i have seen. It may be more common that I previously thought, but not enough to become a huge issue outside of particukar internet groups like this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:26 AM
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"Friendzone" lol... yeah, again, never heard of it in real life. Also men don't offer to just do things for me, not unless we are actually really close for a long time. It happened once, and he had NO intentions in fact he lost my number. Idk, I don't date women, all I have is my own limited experience I admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:22 AM
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Whoa wait, you are an intactivist? My husband is restoring. He just spoke to his brother today about not cutting our soon-to-be-born nephew. I too believe baby circumcision is absolutely wrong. I found reasoning with my nephew's mom to be... unexpectedly difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:57 AM
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What I mena by "engaging" is adding to the cinversation with things like fun, entertainment, and interest. Women have done thay for you, and that is why you prefer women to be speaking in the conversation. Your desires to listen to women speak is hypocritical coming from a man who says women are boring, unfunny, and everything else you said. Well then I guess he would've weeded himself out then, huh? Yes. Okay? Yes. These type of men who don't approach us always just weed themselves out, so we s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:50 AM
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No acting necessary. You ever hear a woman say "lol that guy is such a man slut/ stupid/ not that attractive, but I'm totally going to see him again!" I literally hear men say things like that. It seems objectively worse for women to me. Men who are below the bar simply get rejected. I have been insulted before without even so much as being forward, so I know the feeling and I don't have to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:42 AM
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No, I do not believe women are inherently worth more than men. Men are supposed to approach, ask out, be entertaining, interesting, prosocial/ communicative, generally display value, pass shit tests, and pay for dates, whereas women tend to view their involvement and investment as: responding to messages, answering calls, agreeing to dates, showing up, being social/communicating.... and that's about it. You have most of that wrong. Women are thrilled to have fun conversations and talk about feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:07 AM
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Why? Women can ask men out, too. Some do but most don't. Why? Because we are women, and we know how things go. Societal convention has been a certain way for hundreds of years. We know damn well some modern think is not going to repsect us for asking him out. He'll think we aren't getting any offers. He'll try for sex, and then get bored. That's way worse than a man being rejected up front when he fails to meet standards. Men, of course, want young-looking and attractive women, but as far as "sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:20 AM
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It takes a few months of your account being active.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/20 01:57 AM
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When men are complaining that they can't get their woman's time or that their women are boring, we will talk. Women are obviously usually the ones that are up for doing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:28 AM
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I hate reality TV myself. Drinking is best done in moderation. If I even knew women who were doing that, yeah I would take issue. Quit putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:25 AM
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So a non-betafied husband doesn't help her, he'll just dump her ass for a younger, prettier, version and then she loses that money. Beta isn't really a well-defined term, but a non-invested man will do that. Women don’t want this, for reasons more than financial. More importantly, it is perfectly possible to equally share income and spending but still not wanting your husband to spend money on strippers. Most other entertainment is fine to spend the money on. Why? Because women actually do care …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:27 PM
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Agreed. Having to cajole someone into a real date or a conversation? Desperate. Smiles, adding to the conversation, and kissing back? Enthusiasm. I've had enough dates to tell the difference. I know what works for me. For other people, especially those with different goals than me, mileage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:55 PM
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This is the life I am iving now lol. I'm very aware, and ir surprised me too. Now I have to deal with it somehow. Fun stuff. Social media is growing bigger and bigger now- video games came first is all. Social.media is getting to the point where even some men I know are usung it for social necessity. I feel like, as the younger generations get older, they will begin to socialize more in-person with work and stuff, and that can potentially help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:42 PM
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Idk how old or truthful you are, but I'll take your experience at face value and run with it. regardless of anything romantic, fun, or productive we did ourselves. For me personally, it has to do with this. Younger men will literally play video games all weekend... for the majority of weekends. Sorry, but that's not romantic, fun, or productive. It can easily get out of hand. Speaking as a woman who married a gamer, he will not know when he's planning to eat or sleep. It's a genuine problem that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:26 PM
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Yes, Oxy, it benefits me to find a man who is attracted to me and not give him reason to think I am desperate. News at 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:16 PM
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He's literally saying that to hurt you. There is NO truth to what he is saying. Unreasonable? Really? Reasonable and good people would never think it's okay to take advantage of others- no matter what. He is NOT a person you should be listening to about what is reasonable. Do you hear me? He is NOT the person to listen to. I did not stutter. He sounds like an absolute jerk. I don't trust or believe a word he says. Get help from someone else in your situation about determining what is reasonable.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 07:54 AM
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"I'm jobless, carless, a deadbeat father, and I live with a couple." "Hey, from one single person to another, you should probably do what I'm doing and focus on yourself before you try dating." "You must be a gold-digger." "Nah, unlike you, I'm really okay. I have money, and a job, and stuff." "Well none of what I said was true. I wanted to see your response which obviously proved you're a gold digger. Can't change my mind." block block block Comedy gold. Her response to a man being a struggling…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 07:20 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:42 AM
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What would you advise if he has been dealing with stress-induced LL?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:41 AM
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Ugh, exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:34 AM
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Haha. Umm, I married young. Yes, there are always days where the grass is greener. For sure. I made the choice I could best live with though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:33 AM
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I am 26. Married 2 years, together 6. We are going through some tough time lately tbh. We are both trying very hard to make it work. For a minute, I wasn't sure he was trying. I've recently come around a bit more to his perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:33 AM
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I'm sort-of-newly married. After what we have been through, I can almost imagine how hard it is to separate. Being a parent as well must be a lot of pressure. Not dating is homestly a very valid and smart choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:28 AM
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Why be mad that we play to win? Well, I never played the game, as I've said. There's that. I also don't think of men and women being in a game competition. Just different for me. The manipulation definitely seems like you're not on the same page, and thus not "playing the same game." That's my biggest observation. I don't see women benefiting for long from putting up with it, that's for sure. That really is more between you and them. I simply never would play.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:23 AM
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Fair enough. I was just making some points about what I've noticed. Body language can be anywhere from valringly obvious to very subtle. All of this depends. Guess that is all I can say without you being more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:20 AM
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Let him pay and sip on your drink, if you are dating with serious intent for investing in a relationship. The reach isn't different. It is close enough to offering to pay through your actions. This is not advisable for serious dating, and a lot of men genuinely don't like it. You also never know what to make of "something seeming off," honestly. Watch him do what he does without the games, tbh.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 06:17 AM
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"I'm dating with the intent of finding a good match for a relationship," is pretty clear. Obviously it came up if you're being asked. That's not autistic at all. but women betray that at the very first chance they get as soon as they can. So we play the game women choose. We just do it better. Strongly doubt that, but it seems especially ridiculous especially when it comes from a man who says never admit and always blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:13 AM
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Oh. You're a divorced dad. Yeah. That truly is tough. I can get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:10 AM
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How are you going to know? Date knowing what you are looking for, and select for the specifics. Don't select for whatever sex is easiest, unless you can clearly say "I'm looking for easy sex." What you want is very easy to know, and no woman can save you by being a manoc pixie dream girl. That isn't a woman's job. It's on you to decide what you're looking for. Don't wait for a woman to chase you. At least, personally, I don't find that attractive or masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:10 AM
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Well then WHY? Why be potentially misleading if this is the women's whole game as well? I don't get it. I'd never benefit from doing that to a guy. It would increase drama and danger from him. Women might be less dangerous, but still potentially crazy to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:06 AM
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No, let me be clear. If a pretty girl smiles at you from across the room at a party and blinks and looks you in the eye, it means you can wave and say hi withoit being called a creep. That's what it means, and no it's not much, but it probably is valuable to an interested man who is looking. Uhh, "confirmation"? Depends on what. It can be, yes. "Oh, I know you're lactose intolerant, but are you sure you don't want the ice cream for dessert?" "Oh, just toet you know, I'm really NOT here for hooku…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:04 AM
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Same as all the other women so far: no. Husbands want sex- monogomous sex from me- and a man skank surely cannot keep up with me. Even if he could, it would probably suck compared to what I am accustomed to. I've been busting my absolute chops to get a STEM degree. No, I don't need any man's money, and hardly anyone will know how much that really means to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:56 AM
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Well, the only men I know IRL that "spin plates" are exactly the f*ckboi type. One of them was married and had 5 kids. Not sure what happened there, but he is now divorced, messing around with anyone/ everyone, and doesn't even talk openly about his kids. What made you stop investigating realtionships with people you like? I've heard a lot of TRP men say they just don't even like most women that much. For you, were you asked for too much repeatedly? I've never seen that happen, but granted I'm y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:51 AM
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It depends on what is being hinted at. A smile because a woman wants to talk to you? Of course there is no problem with that. Men can do what they want with it. This is ckear and understood. Nonverbal communication is valid for people of all ages. Purposeful vagueness like "oh I just want to see where things gooo," well that's bullcrap. Also, past a certain age and maturity, people should know what to expect without spelling out the obvious. Having to spell out the obvious can even be a sign tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:48 AM
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They call is patriarchy, male-led, for a reason. It's unnecessary for me. I'm doing okay, and a heck of a lot better than I would be if I was forced to bear children (I can't) as well as financially depend on marriage. Not every woman can find a match, and even less can find a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:44 AM
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When I see something truly depraved, I understand that man getting called names. That's something women have dealt with forever. Also, to be fair, it's pretty straightforward that the place isn't meant for men. It's just locker room talk, right? Idk. For me, it is umportant to learn about the depravity of men because I was raised sheltered. I had no idea what many men are truly capable of. It's not one sub I'm really even referring too, more of a strategy of being feminine and letting men leave.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:38 AM
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You aren't balancing anything out. You are literally intentionally offering nothing to the encounter. The fact that you have to are leading women on shoes that your intentions are to give nothing and only take. There is no balance there. I have only been with my husband, but even for those women who were with many other men, leading on is the same as lying. Don't act like that's what your women are signing up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:33 AM
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Username checks out, that's for sure. If the woman doesn't want only sex, and especially if you use "hot and cold" MANIPULATION specifically to use that, you're literally causing drama in the name of sex. That's like something a sex-obsessed frat boy would do. Get a life. If one of your plates breaks, idk, meet some new people and have a good time? Maybe work on yourself so that you can not "break" everyone you touch? 3-6 months without sex really isn't going to kill you. Never admit anything an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:15 AM
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It's so not our job, but if OLD makes it so easy, honestly might be cool! What if we DID film and get paid? They know what they did wrong. Explanation after explanation would fix nothing. It's consequences that are missing. As soon as he gets them, he will know what for, and the world will change for the better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 04:26 AM
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Well I know it to be true, at least the part about me, soo... sorry but cha. I it just shows me you aren't seeing the truth, so you can't be talked with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:44 AM
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I personally should have started long before now and before I married. I also have untreated and adult-diagmosed ADD/ADHD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 03:32 AM
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Well, yeah I hope this advice only works for a minority. What kind of woman should want to be negged or pumped and dumped? Women should be treated as valuable, as should men. However, despite statistics, still true that such a wide net and low standards tends to catch the worst of the worst. Whatever scope of high-tier women would probably run fast from half of TRP things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:30 AM
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LOL. See, I applied almost similar strategies back when I dated, and I never even knew about the subreddit. Biggest difference was I offered to split the bill a lot because I didn't always take it so seriously. I wasn't planning on sex for a long, long time. Still my husband isn't the one with the problem in his sex life lol. At least I don't think he is. He insists it's been stress for him lately. I would never cheat or hit anyone, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:27 AM
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I have a type of people-pleasing personality. Learning to stick up for myself was a challenge, as well. Honestly, I think we ladies are raised in that way. It's pretty sad. I'm planning to go to therapy next year after I get insurance.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 03:25 AM
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Well, I did my own part lol. Wouldn't it make sense to support most FDS strategies from your perspective? Even having men pay will lessen their polygynous tendencies to decrease casual sex. I try not to think too much of men being inherently inclined to be community dick, and the generosity of some good men certainly did help, honestly. Interesting to hear you put things in perspective like this. Much more relatable than the typical and dissonant "enjoy the decline" crap. In my suburban bubble a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:15 AM
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The one I am recommending or the one I'm not? Because, as a woman, I believe the one I'm recommending would work best for us. It seems obvious, and that's coming from someone who doesn't even do causal stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:02 AM
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That does sound overall awful. Sounds like you're well aware of all those red flags. I'm really glsd you found FDS! Gaslighting can really affect people in awful ways. It will be a journey to get back to where you need to be, and I'm so proud 8f you for starting. Context is really important. Sometimes what sounds like a one-off comment can really be a part of a pattern, and the language we use is at the very easy important to note. There are 100% men out there who are decent enough to learn abou…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 03:01 AM
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I literally never said you were wrong and he was right. I was bringing up points about what some men can do when they are willing. I was bringing up that the 2 things are not opposed because they aren't. You're right, I don't know the man. It was never meant to be about him and you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:55 AM
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If you didn't make it seem like it was about one comment, your judgment would have automatically made sense. It still probably makes sense. I get that. Still possible for men to get rings with with diamonds as well as other colored stones if that's what someone likes. I've seen some recently. I'm sure your ex-bf may very well have not been willing to choose one, and I get that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:52 AM
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told me that his sole priority in picking out my engagement ring was what other people thought.. But did he tell you that was his sole priority? Because you didn't say that he did, and you could have said so without dissertation. You are allowed to make whatever decision you want on your relationship, but you were the one making leaps here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:45 AM
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He ordered some items without telling me. He ordered some very personal items without telling me, and stood in front of OUR box to keep me from seeing it. When asked, he deflected anf ignored like so-called alphas are encouraged to do. I've known some crappy women. I'll defend me and my friends if we are accused of lies for sure. I know for a fact women aren't a hivemind, and I'll say that too. Virtue signaling? I dont think it's virtuous to be dating a slob tbh. Also depends on who is asking. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:43 AM
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Uhh, I never said anything about condemning. I said that a one-off comment wasn't enough to know. There was probably a lor more in the relationship to go into it, at least I would imagine so for me. You aren't me, and I get that. It's relevant to mention that colored stones can be purchased in the same ring as a diamond. There are even chocolate colored diamonds! You didn't mention it. Maybe you did consider it, but it takes more than a one-off comment and an assumption on your part to show that…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:34 AM
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Hookups every 6 weeks when single? Sounds like a bit much for average, but yeah, I dont have stats. I am arguably prude, and stats are hard to come by. Self-reports are allegedly unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:31 AM
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Well, you didn't bring up any of the scenarios I mentioned. You just gave a small snippet. There would have to be more for you to know. I hope there was, and there very well may have been.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:29 AM
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What did your husband do? Oh you don't even want to know. It was a low moment. What I will say is this: I was headed out the door and not planning to come back. He stopped me from leaving, and started telling the truth. As long as I was getting the truth finally, we had room to discuss and we are cool now. It's not like he did anything to hurt anyone, and he is not a bad man. It was just a personal thing. Some men don't get that nothing is "personal" with the wife you live woth. It's a new marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:27 AM
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Honestly? He could have bought a get a diamond ring with colored stones as well. My husband was looking for another ring for me recently, and we saw several nice ones like that. He may have not been ignoring your preferences at all, but adding something on. Or, maybe he just wanted it to be a surprise? My husband does things like that. I'll admit your guy had a really funny way of stating it, but if this was a one-off comment, you can't even really know what he was thinking. You were ready to ta…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 01:20 AM
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I used to feel embarrassed when I was younger, too. My parents were "old-fadhioned." It didn't help when my elementary health class separated the boys and the girls. I didn't really internalize until much later that basic anatomical knowledge is owed equally to both sides. I didn't internalize until later how really messed up it is for people's normal bodies to be treated like a secret. Anyway, now I'm grown. Only time I ever double bagged was when I had to buy Monistat when I was shopping with …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 12:57 AM
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The end goal is to love and care about myself. I certainly don't need a man for that. This is so great! I want to see this embroidered. I need to set it as my phone screen and keep it on reminders around me and everything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/20 12:23 AM
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My father got married at close to 6 months officially together twice. Those were his best marriages. The one to my mother lasted 33 years, at which point she passed away. When you know, you know. I'm not saying it's wrong. I personally would prefer a year and a half for most people who don't have extenuating circumstances. Let's just say my father did have circumstances. I married at 4 years, and I wanted because I was super young and still in uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:20 AM
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And yet you can always change your mind. Thats' the problem. Yea, problems happen in life. Don't live together at all? You can't see each other every night, you have to commute, and she would be extremely dumb to not take a career move across the country and leave you in the dust. Live together without marriage? Extreme legal difficulty in proving even basic contributions to any shared property. In a marriage, it is at least automatically assumed to be equal. Get married? Well, you pretty much h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:15 AM
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I can tell you that the consequences of having sex with an untested and crazy woman don't objectively seem worth pretty much getting wet dick. Of course, I don't have a dick and I'm not desperate, so there's that. I can also tell you that spinning 2-3 plates at a time while one after another breaks usually naturally leads to spreading diseases and low-income babies. We aren't talking about a guy who has a couple of flings a year when he isn't in an LTR here. I was talking about RP MEN lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:24 PM
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The divorce penalty is as horrific as you allow it to be. If I did it, it would be less than $500 combined. There would be a minor financial loss for me because of a particular arrangement we agreed to. We could not make that reliable arrangement if there wasn't a minor penalty and some sort of paperwork for finalizing the end of our upon. We also couldn't but property together and maintain equal rights, which we have a car and we want a home someday soon hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:19 PM
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Call it unusual all you want, but yeah women are a lot more likely to wait than men. We don't need much motivation to wait other than the fact that most men aren't worth even sharing a bedspace with. Oh there are Chads that are fun for some, but Chads aren't anywhere near as easy to bed as most men on this forum seem to think. Can't find one every 45 days without really, really trying, and even then you have risks of pregnancy or STD's. You somehow seem to think that women value money than their…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:11 PM
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Well, I do agree with that, although yes to me from what I have seen a lot of TRP does reduce people to one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:57 PM
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Alphas generally do whatever they want and DNGAF what other people think and want to know. Is this not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:53 PM
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That 45 day wait is entirely based on the assumption that women go 45 days long without trading sex for money. No women waits that long to date until she's older. Bullshit. I was a virgin into my 20's and married my first. I'm still in my 20's. My husband can't hardly pay for even the occasional generous gift, which I reciprocate. If you're going to act like I don't even exist, you can buzz right off and stop commenting on my stuff. 45 days is literally nothing, what are you people, rabbits? Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:53 PM
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Does the model state that all women have casual sex with Chad? Because no, most of my friends do not, and neither did I. Self-selection is the only way you get that. Also, when my husband pulled thay alpha crap on me trying to hide something, I darn near left him. You only get so many chances with that crap in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:46 PM
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Umm... don't have casual sex? At best (and I usually hear that men don't WANT to do this), have one FWB that you can actually communicate well with who you know wants the same things. Vet over time to make sure she can handle it. Ask questions, and observe closely for any clingy behavior or any doubts. Definitely, definitely don't insinuate that you "might be open to a relationship eventually," or you're "seeing how things go." Do you WANT endless drama? Because that's how you get endless drama.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:44 PM
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Oh, yeah, I totally understand that for some of it. Lift, don't be needy, be confident, have boundaries. Knock yourself out. But don't give up on the minimum of vetting and then say "bruh this woman I had sex with is so crazy though." That won't fly. I don't see natural, IRL RP-type men having problems with their moms or their coworkers, or even that much with friends. Just the crazies they sleep with. It only makes sense that they do it for lifestyle reasons. Especially considering that my life…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:37 PM
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I mean why bother all STDs are curable even women mostly don't care--some even insist on condomless. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.. HIV isn't curable, although people have been making the point that it's a lot more curable now. Why risk it? Because I don't want fo wait 45 days? Because he wants to go continue having Stacy? And while I'm at it, why would IINSIST on a man not wearing a condom? Haha, yeah no. I think we can all agree that's not logical, even if some women do it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:19 PM
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Umm.. literally being physically healthy... is healthy? Same reason you lift, same reason you eat your vegetables. It's good for you. Except for sex also exposes other people to your crap. I've only been and needed to be tested once, so it is hardly an obsession. The medical professionals would recommend testinf mode offen. It's the same reason why an addict wouldn't/shouldn't promote sharing a needle with just anybody. Sex is the same thing, and if I say "don't gave sex" adults will laugh me ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:08 PM
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I do believe that pushing for sex before even testing, whether casual or not, opens up the door for all the kinds of women who are "like that." Not AWALT, just most of the ones that fit in with the lifestyle of RP types. My assertion is this: RP men choose women who are "like that" for a very specific reason to fit into a lifestyle, and then RP men complain about women being "like that." RP men's choices are not a reflection of all women, but a reflection of their own values/beleifs/life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:58 PM
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The bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:47 PM
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That's what I mean by a lifestyle issue in my original post. Even if it's rare to find a total virgin, many other lifestyles could accommodate STD testing first at least. It really is possible, it's just not super easy for all people. The ones who wanted an originally "normal" relationship wouldn't swing so far so easily. If I ever find myself single again, this time with intimate experience, I believe I wouldnt rearrange that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:46 PM
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Well when we say a man should be a man and initiate, this is what we mean. We obviously do not mean we want to be catcalled. We want you to respond to obvious signs of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:36 PM
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...... are you serious?? Wow...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:30 PM
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I was a virgin when I got with my husband. I don't think, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:29 PM
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Going for easiest and hottest is a matter of what fits into a man's lifestyle. An RP man could totally get a normal woman and be tested. Even if the relationship later ended, he would be safer and better off than putting himself at risk. What does "getting RP'd" even mean? In real life, I have NO evidence to show what you are saying that man skank men originally tried for something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:29 PM
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Basically you're going on about men, while thinking like a woman. Doesn't work. I'm basing my experience off actual men in my life who cared about me, approached me, and actively pursued me. This does not apply to cold approaches on the street, or even at a party or whatever. I'm talking about experiences where even a woman has the opportunity to signal interest/flirt... and the man just sits there like a lump on a log. That is the knell of death to a connection. A man has to participate, and ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:24 PM
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I can be quite a clever lady ;). The only man who ever might have missed my hints had literal Asperger's or something. What happened, you ask? I just started dating my husband, who was actually clearly interested. I also pick up on men's signals as well, even if they're not trying to be too obvious. I can tell a man's level of interest, especially if I know him well enough to actually even flirt and care. I rarely ever flirted or gave meaningful, intentional hints. I reserved even minor flirting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:09 PM
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He does have to express interest, but that’s because men will eat the hot dog off the ground/fuck anything. I will not fuck anything So true, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 06:36 PM
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Yes!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/20 06:33 PM
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Well, I wait a long time before being intimate. I might give it a shot, since I never have before. Might try just because I would be attached after so many months. Depends on how things go, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 10:34 AM
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Well I was only with my husband. He is bour average according to the studies I have seen, although i haven't measured. It works great for me. Obviously never actually been with a bigger guy, but above 8 would probably make me RUN. Under 4 would be a disappointment, and I might run as well. All I know from experience is that about average is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:38 AM
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I personally agree there is a way, but the way is not like what you describe. You have the talk BEFORE the 4th date, when it's real casual and you can just ask "what are you looking for out of dating right now?". You ask in a context of talking about himself. You never need to ask him what he sees with you in particular. The "with you" part is supposed to come fully from him within about the first 2-3 months.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/20 03:25 AM
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Lol... why would you feel "trapped" by just asking "do you want to be exclusive and explore where this goes long-term?" Marriage puts down roots that make it more difficult to leave, and for chidlren that is particularly helpful. It is also a social status thing, which cannot be quickly and easily changed. If you love the person over time, you'll want to provide that. Also, do you not realize how man relationships die due to circumstances like long-distance or career career moves? Things will de…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:17 AM
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Men with high n-counts aren't valued for their n-count. I guarantee you a man who waited by choice is the most sought after partner. Alpha bucks, although I despise such terms for humans. I also second the fact that women don't brag on "conquests," it is the man they build a life with that gives them status. I had one woman call my boyfriend a husband out of respect for me, for example. Better to assume that a woman's man is more committed than less. We don't view men as conquests, which is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:33 AM
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It's 9 days. You aren't even exclusive. You really shouldn't be worried about talking to him so much. You're getting too attached, I think. It's okay for him to take a vacation. When he comes back, you should expect plans to be made ASAP. If no plans are made within his first 3 days of returning, I would just block and delete. Is he not letting you stay at his place during this vacation? You should be doing that rather than wasting your gas and getting up early. I have a friend who did that for …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 07:14 PM
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I'll compain when something is wrong. I'm educated and moving up, but currently both my husband and i are broke. I'm definitely nor broke. But am I a great person? Hell yeah. So is my husband. Yeah, I have only slept with him. Of course people have met me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:29 PM
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A strange man lent me a calculator for a test. This sort of thing happened one literal time. It was such a rare gesture that we became fast friends afterward. Opening doors? Maybe 10 times a year, I guess, usually when the guy is right there. Once my husband noticed that a guy who hwld the door for me was staring at my bum as I walked in. I don't know how often that is the ulterior motive. I'm guessing that's a much more common ulterior motive than I would like to think. Guys I know tend to be m…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 06:09 PM
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Yw. I'm sure what I was saying is obvious, but I think the often overlooked part is to realize that even deep cleaning and meal prep are plans. Your self-care is an actual thing. Not setting aside time in advance is how people like me lose track and actually level down sometimes. I don't want that for any fellow Queen.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 05:48 PM
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MAKE plans for Saturday! Set a video chat date with a female friend, have a workout and poolside time, read a good book and make yourself fruit-infused water. Write a journal article. Attend a show. Meal prep for the week. Deep clean if your place needs a deep cleaning. Actually make plans for Saturday. I mean, Saturday is going to come and go either way. Don't you want to be conscious of how you spend it? I have ADD/ADHD as well as some new situational stressors, and I have been really struggli…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/20 05:38 PM
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It's a good filter because a lot of the articles or topics shared will be about the newest, biggest issues. Just lets me know what to look out for. If I turn on the news channel it'l drags on and on and on. News sites are the same, and also biased. The most important stuff will get shared immediately, and I can also find multiple sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:26 PM
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Haha, if you check out my Reddit comment history you will see that I sometimes a character limit to help keep brief and pithy. Also, I find a lot of news on Twitter. News is best on Reddit, and jist okay on Facebook. Reddit, however, is potentially toxic for my brain. I need to limit myself to healthy, small doses, and Twitter is great for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:01 PM
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I prefer FB and Twitter as well. I can see Instagram also being used that way, but it just seems less useful me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:11 PM
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Fair point. I never found instagram to be my favorite for that, although with the gen X crowd it is becoming more popular. I am a younger millennial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:10 PM
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I peraonally don’t use Instagram to keep up with friends. Most people don't even ask me if I have one. Instagram is also more pictures than actual written updates, just saying. I'm sure you're right though, there are fitness blogs as well as business blogs and craft blogs. There are many things other than porn. However, not my cup of tea, especiallt for "friends." I prefer phone calls and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:08 PM
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Oh, but you have an Instagram though. What for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:15 PM
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Do you actually even believe your own crap? Women are getting college degrees now. You are absolutely wrong that women need men for money anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:43 PM
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Soke of my celebrity crushes are: Robert Downey Jr., Patrick Dempsey, Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles, Tobey Maguire, Benedict Cumberbatch, David Boreanz, and Matt Czuchry. Maybe that will give you some type of idea what I like. There is quite a range. Mostly Robert Downey Jr. Rawr. Anyway, in real life, I like pale men somewhere between lean and strong. I like men close to my own age. My husband is only 2 months younger than me. Hair and eye color aren't as big a deal. I can be attracted across …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:54 PM
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Parenting is optional. No father or mother has to be truly present in their child's lives. Many people who even chose to parent don't really participate sufficiently. It would be nice to be able to praise people for contributing to the future of humanity. That being said, praising fathers and only fathers has been a problem for a long time now. It's got to change, so this is where we are at.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 04:49 AM
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I mean that's shitty too. Do you see women on here bragging about that? Honestly no, and I'm pretty sure that should tell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:29 AM
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Oh honey. He shouldn't even know your username. Some things are best kept private.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 03:05 PM
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Sounds promising so far! Good for you both. Follow your instincts on love bombing or not. Stay safe. From what i hear, it just sounds like a good date. He may be almost strict his politeness, but that may be his personality, and a lot of HV couples can operate that way. Way to state your sexual boundaries too, I'm v. impressed! He already asked for a second date, so was that planned more in advance? If so, feel free to proceed as long as your instincts tell you to. Sounds like a fun time, enjoy …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 08:05 AM
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Underrated comment, that's really the biggest red flag here. One of the best dates I ever had without my husband was drinks at a bar. Note: I selected the place and it had real food, too. I really trusted the guy. Drinks is, well, not the worst suggestion in the whole world. Just depends on the context. I'm also not always saying it's an impressive suggestion, especially for OLD. Back "If we're vibing," that's the red flag. It's like he's trying to tell her that he's not really all that sold on …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 07:59 AM
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Don't mention other men outright, that is tacky. He shouldn't be asking either. I know covid makes it tough lol, and I've been stir crazy too. I say 2-3 days notice because it's better to not be stir crazy, and to give him time to plan something properly, maybe make a reservation and a backup. Idk how old you are. I'll be blunt, if you are in high school, reservations aren't needed for grabbing sandwiches or ice cream. I'd go easier on you there, but get into the habit of planning ahead now even…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 07:43 AM
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You chose a date for the next day? Listen Queen, you did great and he seems nice, but it might be better for next time to plan just a bit further in advance. Don't want to seem/ to be too available.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 07:28 AM
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I married well before 25 to a man a few months younger than me, and I don't recommend dating seriously at that age for most young ladies truly! That being said, because I followed most FDS rules from the start, he was very interested in getting to know me as a person. Don't expect less, I guess. Disclaimer: I will remind my fellow women to be prepared for the worst, and to not "trust" in a way that puts themselves at risk.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 01:06 AM
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No woman has to tolerate a guy's ex. April didn't have to try to be friends. I admit, not a huge fan and don't remember everything rude she did though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 12:59 AM
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Jan.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/20 12:58 AM
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Fair point, although plausible deniability makes for help in legal situations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:17 AM
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Oh, yeah there are a lot of similarities. Not all escorts offer what you're saying, though, they all have multiple clients, and one sugar relationship can go for years. Even the most regular escort clients probably don't last that long. Also, escorts see married men/men in relationships. Sugars can be out in the open as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:51 PM
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I'd call it more gendered than inherited. The statistics are far more in favor of men. In fact, as a woman, I would certainly feel unsafe joining the air force DESPITE the fact that I know I wouldn't see combat. I'm so physically inferior that I probably wouldn't have been allowed in, not even if I was in amazing shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:49 PM
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Yes, trades and the armed forces. What did you think these men are doing who elect not to go to university? This type of stuff. These trades might have less ability to move up in the long run, but tradesmen earn more in the younger age range where most people are concerned about predatory age-gap relationships. I would assume that a young man in an age-gap relationship is pulling his own wight independently like this. I would, however, be concerned about the woman giving up her necessary educati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:34 PM
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Awww, that's potentially sweet. Hmm, low profile? That's surprising, unless you're famous or live in a small town. I would have guessed thay most guys who go out and do things wouldn't mind being noticed looking dapper with a pretty lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:28 PM
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Like I don't even know where to begin with your bootstrapping this shit has been crumbling for decades. I never disputed that and I never "bootstrapped." The simple reality is that women earn more because the skills that are marketable in an information economy are disproportionately possessed by women And how many women can leverage those skills before 24, or at least 22? Not many. That was my original point, it's an age thing. Most 18-24 y/o men still have skills that are more immediately lucr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:24 PM
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Idk lol. Ask a sugar daddy. I can only assume it is to show off a beautiful woman on their arm as a status symbol. Many "regular" prostitutes charge by the hour, and showing them off on your arm is indeed a bad use for that time on the clock. With a "subscription" for access to a sugar baby, you can get the time as an added perk. Even for high-priced call girls, a "regular" prostitute tends to be somewhat well-known in circles for their work. Professionals have many other clients. Some girls mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:17 PM
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That, and it seems like SD's actually throw in some fun events to show their women off where high-priced call girls dont have that happen as much. SD's probably bond/talk a lot more in the way "dating" even per encounter and per dollar spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:03 PM
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LOL uhh not like that but good point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:01 PM
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More women are taking time out for college to make that happen, so in in the 18-24 age range, that's probably not true. Even if so, it wouldn't be because a man can't get a higher paying job, but because he chose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:00 PM
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Less true with men in the sense that men can become financially secure younger from better-paid jobs. Less true because males are less likely to fully rely on their older partners. Still possible for women to be predatory, though. Mary Kay Letourneau is nasty af. Other people have given good examples, too. Women can be predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:49 PM
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A lot of red pill videos i watched spoke about men in relationships or marriages who cant get sex because the girl stopped caring etc. Yeah this is a thing for some men, which is why the vast majority of Red Pill men just decide to avoid committed relationships because of this. Withholding exclusivity/commitment is expecting women to have low standards. Your reasons and your fear of getting screwed over are noted, but that doesn't change the fact: accepting a lack of commitment is an objectively…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:42 PM
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Depends. Is she able to make independent decisions about her career, finances, family, and friends without you butting in? I can see the age gap being used against her if you chose to be a controlling and manipulative prick like that. I'd have to know you to trust you, and that's your girlfriend's business. Not mine. At 22, more importantly, she's probably pretty broke on her own. At 30, you probably aren't broke (or at least you shouldn't be). Are you responsible for her necessities, or for mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 09:53 PM
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On behalf of all womankind. Screw you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 05:09 AM
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I've had many men project FDS-adjacent ideals onto my life. There's my father, who would tell me to dump a man if said man happened to breathe wrong. My dad is also all about my financial indpendence outside of a man. I found my first love at 11. This boyfriend, emphasis on boy at this age, REFUSED to walk through a door I opened. He would always rush to open my doors. I was told by him and other males alike to simply let my young beau do things for me. A lot of FDS came naturally, but I started…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/20 08:17 AM
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There is one very underrated factor in the science of subjective attraction. Attraction is at least partially determined by relative genetics between partners. https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/05/20/genes-matter-people-marry-mates-with-similar-dna-but-different-immune-systems/ In other words, people choose based on their genes, so people of different genetic makeups will look for different genetic markers and immune systems. Those factors will vary from person to person. However, things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:24 AM
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I'm telling you that I'm probably better than 99% of people at determining a person's long-term potential, if you were ever interested in that sort of thing. There is a whole world out there outside of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:08 AM
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All really great points. That is pretty much what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:10 AM
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Yeah this just isn’t a thing in the casual sex world lol. Exactly. CASUAL sex. Not everyone is dating that way. If you’re shamed by a social norm then maybe you aren’t well adjusted enough to handle rejection. Equating someone to a child is shaming, regardless of what I feel or what your intentions are. Maybe it was just poor wording probably. It’s well known that women don’t appreciate “we fucking?” To be directly called out, even in your example that could be naively interpreted (and actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:07 AM
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Oh my gosh it is so funny you say that, because one of my previous LTR's really finally tanked for me at about 10 months! I just realized, no this isn't going to be it, and I cut the connection off. Do you think there's something to this timeline?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:25 AM
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"Adult"... way to shame any woman who wants to take it slow as a child on the internet. Nice tactic. I totally agree with not inviting a man over before a woman is ready for sex. Plenty of men will assume in this society, and it's best to take control and not leave it up to a guess. That being said, to "lose interest" and assume bad things because you aren't being offered sex as an invited guest on her turf seems entitled. If you want sex to be ON the table, communicating is totally something me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:18 AM
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At her place it should have been her invitation to plan whatever she wanted to do, and your job to accept or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:06 AM
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And what if you were at her house?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:52 PM
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I dated about 10 guys at least once, and had 2 other official LTR's than my husbands. Several long term on-and-off connections. Just didn't do the dance with no pants with any of those guys. I was young, I admit. I still know how some people work, but it was self-selected to suit my life because, well, it's my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:48 PM
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I mean they won't ask about explicit details, like an ex's physical characteristics or for an intimate play-by-play. They won't ask about a "body count." They won't ask questions to which the answer is irrelevant, and they won't ask questions which make their date/partner uncomfortable.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 09:26 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:24 PM
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"Nowadays"? Please. Not all women are the same. I was a virgin when I met my husband. Yeah, women probably do have options, but sex isn't generally the priority with women before women even know a man. This still rings true today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:54 PM
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Actually, that was a typo ai changed "to" to 'allowing" . If you ever care, also recall context please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:52 PM
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What a stereotype. I never had a man who liked me choose not to talk to me for extended time, and I wasn't even having sex with them. Men like to be listened to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:49 PM
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If it bothers you to have to hire someone, why do you think it's ok to tell us to? Not the commenter, but I have reasons. First, I don't despise men the way many TRP men despise women. My aim is a relationship, so I would want my goals understood. Plus, my husband is an exception to the apparent rule of men lacking sexual skill, so you'd never see me.complaining even if I was sex obsessed. The second reason being: even men that despise women are desperate enough to pay for sex with a woman. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:02 AM
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My husband is 11 inches taller than me... basically because I am a shrimp. I did not choose this. He's just a great guy who is slightly above average. Me, on the other hand, I was just born super short. I can't help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:37 AM
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I do not believe in bs like "the one" anyways. We disagree very little indeed. There are almost always several options of a similar sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:54 AM
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I took it to mean not actively contacting her, due to the grammar used, but I am obviously not a native speaker so you can take that with a heavy grain of salt. Debatable. I can see how this influences you, but I do not see why a self-respecting man with options would particularly care to wait for your virginity (imo that alone can be off-putting). Well I am pretty great, and I'd be lying if I didn't say I was trying to selecr for a man who sees that. Also bear in mind what I said that I had no …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:41 AM
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No. I just do not think that somebody should take random interactions without sex over random interactions + sex, if they actually have the options to chose. Well, in my husband's case, fomer women were literally using him for his body. He didn't like that on his psyche. I held off on sex for my own mental health, too, obviously. Sometimes sex isnt just sex: it's about the sharing pleasure with another whole person. According to a lot of people (epsecially men) on this sub, your mileage may vary…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:36 AM
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Ducking @ me! This is the internet. I dont have any interest in what random internet guy does with his life, but when it comes to sexual coercion, yes I do have an interest in everyone allowing peope their own bodily autonomy. If you want to call that being a sucker, then I guess words mean nothing. Self-interest CAN be bad when that interest is assault, and either you know it or you're way too dense for me to even argue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:25 AM
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Doesn't no contact mean no responses as well? I am very into my husband. As I keep saying, I was a virgin. Some people aren't slaves to their impulses. I had to know him as a human being first. Fair point about the dumb chick's choice, but there probably will be no woman that dumb. The end goal there is a one night stand, or at best a set of periodic meetings until she finds a more interested man. There is no "the one" there. In a whole month without talking, the bare minimum for a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:20 AM
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Well I married one, so you're wrong. Even personal experience aside, the statistics of sexlessness for young men show that a 3-6 month waiting period is nothing abnormal for young men at all. Men take that "BS" whether they are dating or not, so no it's not imposed by the rules of a woman these men are dating. Mwn vakue not being ignored just like women do. However, due to the fact that men and women value different things, I would not have minded him seeing other girls unless it interfered with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:15 AM
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Honestly, I would he okay if there wasn't a guy who wanted that, and I fertainly wouldn't try to use him for his body. Being single forever was preferable to giving him vriginiry to a man who didn't know me and love me. However, that didn't happen. I got favorable results, and I didn't have to treat him like trash for months. There was just no sex yet, which is most certainly not the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:05 AM
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Oh, I'm not judging you at all. I'm just saying the low value asshat above me was suggesting something disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:02 AM
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Wrong. There may not have been sex, but I wasn't ignoring him. The equivalency is so false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:01 AM
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Holy crap that is disgusting. What kind of self-respecting woman would ever pick up your call? Answer: none. Any woman with options would have resumed seeing other guys, and if you cared about her would wouldn't like that. I mean, I required a minimum of 3 months cosistent dates and contact to even consider having sex the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:47 AM
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Oh tou weren't rude! I'm really glad we can have this talk and give other women something to think about, even though I should clarify I'm speaking hypothetically and not on the dating market.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 02:42 AM
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I think it would help some women personally to think "Wait a minute... he said one thing, but now he's trying to tell me another thing that marriage is just a piece of paper. He's not sticking to his word. It is time to drop him." Doesn't mean the future faking won't be attempted. Also, I forgot to mention but it obviously happens, some men are dumb and LV like on this text scenario. They would be booted out early just by asking. You are a mature woman with children, so I'm sure you understand h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 02:40 AM
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Well, actions are equally important. I'm not concerned for a guy to know that I believe in marriage. Asking before we get too close (within maybe 2 weeks) shows I'm not desperate for him, I just want to see where a potential man stands. I hope he knows how I feel. His actions must still match over time the exact same way as if we never had the conversation, but verbal confirmation just adds a layer of accountability for me. Honestly, within 1 or 2 months, if the guy even makes it that far, he wo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 12:59 AM
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I'm in this pic, and I'm okay with it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 12:52 AM
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I agree about a relationship, but I want to know within like 2 weeks if he even believes in the institution of marriage and wants it for himself someday. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but that's the type of question I think it is smart to ask.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 12:51 AM
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The right answer is to just let her go. Deciding to take space literally CAN be her choice. To say otherwise makes you not only wrong but a controlling asshole. If you don't want to keep doing your own thing and let her date other people, then just break up. Don't be a douchebag. If you want a freaking stupid TRP answer, try ask TRP. I am a normal female, and I dont agree with a lot of things TRP claims or suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:32 AM
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You have to care about both. You have to check if it all matches up. If it doesn't, that's a free red flag. If the opportunity is there to get a man on record with his words, my preference is to take it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 12:12 AM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:06 AM
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Well, sure you can have them answer first, but as the interviewer you do have to at least bring marriage up and ask on your own timeline. You should get a straight answer early on to hold them accountable later.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 12:04 AM
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I wanted a guy who seemed only somewhat warm at first thinking that the attraction and bond would grow with time. This never happened lmao
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 10:25 PM
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You surely don't seem to.allreciate other people's differences for a guy who knows that. I guess I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:12 PM
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I'm not a karma whore, I'm good. Just seemed like more than habit, since people in this sub generally aren't encouraged to. People can have lives lived differently than yours, guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:07 PM
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It makes no sense to go around telling other people what can or cannot last if you aren't even remotely interested in a lifelong commitment. Mind your business, and write what you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:06 PM
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You keep downvoting me. Why are you so triggered at someone living a different life than you? And yes, my husband and I are quite content to be childfree for the foreseeable future. We are going to be just fine, and we are in this together. Somehow your concerns don't seem to come out of goodwill...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 09:03 PM
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Well, I've never had problems dating in the past, and I'm mostly on FDS for learning about people and lifting up other women. Also pretty sure that my marriage is going to be fine, obviously. Half a decade or much longer, I've got you beat on lasting probably by a long shot. Oh, and I was born sterile. I hope you feel like an absolute asshole for pointing out what I was so unlikely to never be granted, but your fear mongering won't change my views here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:57 PM
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This is BIG pickme behavior. Don’t tell men you are looking to get married because they will future fake I completlely disagree. At some point early on (okay, maybe not online, and preferably not in response to their asking) it's really good to get a straight answer that they can be held accountable for in the next couple of years. If they start to switch up later like they don't believe in marriage, you'll know that they haven't been sincere. You can feel good about parting ways because the ori…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 08:52 PM
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Gra... grandma?! I am 26!! Been with my one and only since 20, now married. I know what can last these days better than you do, and I really doubt you have me beat unless you are married and LTR'd a decade. Your demographic of young women suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:36 PM
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Eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:24 PM
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That's completely not true. I know I could get other options, but I want and value my husband because he's made me happy for years. While I could get other options, it would be a nightmare and rather useless given that my husband meets my wants. He might not even be able to replace me for a while, if anything. Men don't value women they can replace either. Why do you think most of TRP is about a revolving door of replaceable plates? Anyway, people can have value to each other without wielding it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:24 PM
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I literally only had to ead the title. Women don't lose attraction unless the majority of your feelings are toxic problems for her. Things like: jealousy/insecurity rage/spite helplessness indecisiveness/confusion boredom/emptiness dissatisfaction When women say they want you to share your feelings, what they mean is they want you to tell them politely when you need space. They want you to be open in sharing loving feelings toward them, and to your other loved ones. When you are slightly upset e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:19 PM
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Both people can get what they want in a relationship. Plenty of blue pill relationships exist where no one is controlled or demeaned by the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:06 PM
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But I thought blocking and ghosti g showed power, and those men are the small minority of bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:04 PM
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How sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:59 PM
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Then they go on social media and complain about how “toxic” men are(when it’s really only a small amount of bad men) Only to be the type of guy who also says... Relationships are about power dynamics in truth. You see the issue here? You are the toxic type of guy, and you are claiming all are like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:58 PM
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it was something stupid that we need laws so lawyers/prisons/etc can make money, but nobody owes them anything and the poster realized how fucking stupid it was. u/DangZagnut
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:51 PM
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Really? 50% of the time? Thats crazy. So you mean, you guys just have sex, and then she chases you but you ignore her? Then you come back later and she just... gives you what you want? That's how this works? What in the pickme hell... You don't even have to do anything? They'll just remain one of many on the hook for a while? Wow. Yep, can confirm I am glad I never had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:50 PM
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Short answer is no. I've only been blocked once, and it made me angry because things were actually going well with him. I couldn't unsee him in class during high school, so I just got angry. I never said another kind word to him, and dated like 3 other guys. That was a bunch of high school drama, and it was immature even then. It did not make me more attracted. I've ghosted mutually a few times when things fizzled between me and a guy. It didn't reignite the attraction or anything. Most of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:46 PM
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All this for a women who didn't want ya before? Sounds like a man with no options....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:34 PM
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Wow. And this is why I have trouble seeing the good in TRP. Imagine any woman needing to be told "coercing your husband into sex isn't good." Now, that being said, I've been a married HL. I know it's not easy. I like to think that I won't be a pickme just to get some, but I won't coerce him either. Most likely we will come to an enthisuatic agreement with each other, or there won't be a we anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:32 PM
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Yes, and I did what I needed to do by not just f-ing the dude. Maybe a lot of peope operate in the way you described, but it wouldn't work for me. I didn't think my views were that rare. Reddit is one of the major things that has recently been teaching me about the differences between me and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:44 PM
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I don't think I quite agree, if nothing else just with the absolute wording. There are definitely dealbreakers where both my husband and I would exercise the power to walk away. We also both make minor sacrifices even when we don't fully 100% eagerly choose to. It happens. Negotiation requires both sides to have their leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:42 PM
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I mean, I'm not exactly keeping score. Equal enough is good enough for me. In the long run, things are even more likely to even out. Different sacrifices get made over different time periods by different partners. People contribute what they can to the whole. As long as everybody's needs are met, that's probably just about the best a human pair can do. Keeping score and wondering who has the power seems like that would be the inherent problem to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:36 PM
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Sounds like you understand what happened there. I'm glad you weren't upset. He clearly wasn't worth it to you. He was validation, and now that you're more grown, you know how you don't need that for its own sake from just anybody. "wait, wasn't I dumped like 4 hours ago? Shouldn't I be upset still?" But I just didn't feel anything. To make a long story short, no you shouldn't feel that sad over a guy who already proved worthless over time. Ideally we don't date people like that, but crap happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:32 PM
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I am in my mid-20's, and every connection I ever had before my husband included no sex at all. The thing is, I didn't usaully have trouble getting commitment or genuine care when I approached relationships with a connection-long-before-genitals mindset. There were literally 3 men who weeded me out from lack of sex, and still to this day those men aren't married. Two of them would even take me back if I suddenly decided to be down. The other has a couple of children with a woman he still refuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:25 PM
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Well dang nevermind, the comment got deleted. It was some really good thing about money. Wish I could quote it...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:18 PM
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I never missed, cried over, or felt sad over either one. That is not the definition of a healthy emotional connection. Perhaps missing someone after a few days when you love them will happen. That's the only part you got sort of right. The rest is a reaction to loss, not a reaction to love. I'd say half the time I resented and even hated them for the later 3/4 of both relationships. Wot. DUMP THEM. #kickthemout202X
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:15 PM
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Dismiss immediately, fine new one. So I, uh, take it you are not commitment-minded and LTR-minded? At least not in cases where the sex doesn't come early?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:11 PM
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Oh, I've been called a sucker on occasion. Doesn't bother me too much. I'll know when it's time to stop giving and giving. A balance is most important. I couldn't respect the other person for being a total sucker, and how's that going to last? I'm married, and even at 18 I was commitment-minded. For that to work, there must be a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 04:05 PM
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I like intellectual types who are good with numbers and sort of keep to themselves. Much like you want to be appreciated as an artist, I want to be appreciated as a scientist. I hit it off with a couple of low-level blue collar workers, but frankly I needed someone who can think critically long-term and not get blazed or wasted every weekend. Educated men were just more likely to fit. Intelligent and skilled tradesman would have been a possibility, but I married a man from uni before I really da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:43 PM
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She may not enjoy having sex but so long as she consents to it, what's the problem? There could be a lot of problems. Maybe she will be dry, maybe she will have bad feelings after, maybe she will starfish, or maybe the relationships would end. Some of these problems would fall back on the guy because of logistics during the action. Sometimes a sad or angry woman could wreak havoc on the man's life or belongings. A possible breakup after crap sex would be its own consequence for the guy. You can …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:10 PM
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1) The f-boys most people talk about aren't exactly bad guys? Idk, maybe you're right for some people, but to me that sounds like the same type of strawman you were trying to point out in (2). The type of f-boys I know are pretty bad. Some will sleep with a married woman. I know one guy who "doesn't like condoms" and he stopped into down during COVID. When we grabbed coffee, he said the OLD girl he matched with in town was desperate. One minute later he asked if I knew a place where he could mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:55 PM
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u/DangZagnut
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:33 PM
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1: Women complain about f-boys because they are an annoyance and a waste of time. I have never been with a f-boy, but I'll complain because they are gross. "Sir, this is a place of business and I need your report by 5 p.m. If you do not shut up about your pp and take your hands off the intern, you will be severely reprimanded." A woman who has been with an f-boy can complain if she was lied to and her time was wasted intentionally. She can make this complaint even if her "value" to future partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:11 AM
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Dude was very wrong about calling you "too much stress" and threatening to ghost you. Dude was very wrong about being forgetful in the first place, which I'm sure you were right about. Everything you said about empathy and understanding probably made a good point as well, whatever it may have been. Other than that, it's exactly the paragraph thing. He clearly never cared about what you had to say. All men probably don't, honestly even the most HVM brains cannot handle it. They just aren't social…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 07:34 AM
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For a man who works throughout the day, good morning and good evening/night are pretty standard salutations for the times when he is available to talk. Every day is excessive for a man you have just started greeting, I agree. For a man you're intimate with and/or exclusive with, however? It's the least he can do, and it would feel good hearing from each other. You saying you want to live your own life can be interpreted in 2 ways. Maybe you're not interested to be especially close/available, or …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 05:37 AM
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Well, not what I meant.... but I guess if you're into that. I'm not. 100% never doing that with my husband if there is a breakup. Of course, I have never been into uncommitted sex, so that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:54 AM
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High value men do not do this. High value men do, however, take note when you lack high value discretion in the way of revealing too much about your past without ever being asked. High value men also will not ask if it is uncomfortable and irrelevant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 02:52 AM
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I've always been partial to books myself. My usual library is limited due to the virus currently, though. Tough times haha
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 02:04 AM
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Thank you kindly! I'll check it out. I keep hearing a lot about Gone Girl on the web, but I grew up under a rock and never actually saw it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 01:20 AM
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Yep, peobably the winning strategy to be honest. I find this even makes the most sense in real relationships, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:10 AM
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No. I don’t need a human being for a backup plan. My backup plan is the ability to support myself and pick up the pieces if my marriage fails. Dating again would be secondary for a while. Helpful guy is definitely the type of guy I would date if I found myself dating again, but not on the rebound. Rebounds are guys who you check out a new restaurant or 2 with and probably even split the check IMO. That's not helpful guy at all, honestly. He's a proven catch and he is first-choice material. Drink…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 12:09 AM
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You've already noted that a lot of LVM can make these comments. That's the first step. An HVM will notice you in a nice way as well, but it will be a bit muted at first and mostly come out like this: "I'm charmed to have met such a lovely lady; could I have your phone number to call you to make plans for dinner sometime?" After a few dates, you can probably expect some nice kisses and cheeky comments from an HVM. Attraction will be obvious, pushing for actual sex won't be a thing outside of a re…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 11:25 PM
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I've watched it. That second season though... crazy. Where can I watch Gone Girl?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 11:16 PM
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When I was long distance with my husband, I had a study/drinking buddy as well as an arguably overly helpful colleague. If I was suddenly available, let's just say I would like my chances of those guys pursuing me. Of course, I am married, so we have not even discussed the potential there. It's anybody's guess. For reference: I'm currently not that good looking, but I could be dang cute if I got back into shape and cleaned up a bit. It's just been a bad time lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 11:11 PM
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Some women do. I'm of a younger demographic, so the men are apparently kind of sexless with their highest libido while the women are pretty hot. I don't really define a coworker who laughs with you at lunch every now and then or a friend of a friend who you turned down saying "I have a boyfriend" as an orbiter. Recall the point I made that not all interactions are centered around a man's penis. Sometimes groups get together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 10:56 PM
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Nah, you can't go on Tinder or "lay groundwork." However, for many women, normal socialization in their friend group is probably enough to meet a couple of options without ever trying to disrepsect their relationship. Probably easy enough to meet some potential options without ever mentioning it to anybody. Boyfriend won't have reason to even say he might be worried about the guy. Boyfriend won't have a reason such as "well, you met on Tinder" or something. Women get out of their house to meet p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 09:17 PM
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You're absolutely wrong. Women don't have to lay any groundwork for getting a guy to take you on a couple of dates. He wouldn't be an official boyfriend for a hot minute, but a woman could totally start dating immediately without cheating before. Also, keeping around orbiters isn't the only way to converse with a man who likes you. Sometimes being social has its natural perks. Not all interaction is intentionally built around a man's plan to orbit and a woman letting him do so. Sometimes it's co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 09:05 PM
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I dumped one man. He was neither apathetic nor pushy. He actually cared. He pretty much said he would be glad to reconnect in the future if we could. He was a great man in a lot of ways. Sad ending to that life chapter for a moment, honestly. I wasn't apathetic at the time either: I actually cried and had to hang up the phone. This man's reaction was probably close to the reaction women generally expect. If a good man was happy to continue a relationship without initiating the breakup, why would…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 08:52 PM
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Men will get jealous over other hypothetical men with bigger members and tell you to just go be with them even if you're a virgin. Men will literally do this. It is pure, pornified delusion, but this is unfortunately the type of depravity that has been normalized for young men. I'm not making excuses, so don't chew my head off. I'm stating what women have to look out for because it is much more common than it should be. One of the main reasons I subscribed here is to read about anf understad the…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 07:04 PM
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45 days. It should be 45 days for HIV testing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/20 06:56 PM
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That makes some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:21 PM
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I've had it happen in my relationships exactly twice: once on my end, and once on a man's end. I had sex with neither of these men, as I have only had sex with my husband and we are still together. I felt very guilty when it happened to me. If I'm being honest: 1) I wasn't fully appreciating all he was doing for me. 2) My spontaneous physical attraction was underwhelming with him from the beginning. 3) I was very young and inexperienced, so I skipped over a lot of the unfavorable dynamics that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:29 PM
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they are just friends, and she stood firmly there for him, when he was heartbroken because of me Did you guys break up? What is the story here? That seems important. he definitely protected the evil girl, saying she is not that bad, she had a hard life, and she knows she made mistakes in the past, and she is really sorry about it (but she never actually said sorry to the colleagues she hurt..) If she was just a random girl, I might try to be her friend, but because of our past this is out of que…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/08/20 02:57 PM
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I always denied casual sex precisely because I am introspective. I know what my nature is, it's just probably not what you think it is considering I never lied to my husband or "pulled the wool over his eyes." Unlike you, I trust him that he really values me for me instead of just believing him to be desperate. I think I like our chances. Even more disturbingly, I'm pretty sure it will be on him if things end. I know the things he has done in the past, and I'll leave it at that. I go out of my w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:15 AM
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I mean, yes I am concerned about my husband sleeping with someone else. STD's are real, and I would rather step on a rusty nail than go out trying to find another guy to, well, you know. Commitment is definitely sexual for women as well, plus spending quality time instead of "needing space" three weekends out of the month. For the really serious, commitment is finding a place to share duties or raising children together. I'm not against talking about the financial component, especially among peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:06 AM
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You can "temporarily" take a hike. We are MARRIED. I don't really have the patience for this sub's generalizations right now. My personal life is not a statistic, thank you. I guess my whole point was that people don't all work the way you think they do. Sorry I'm not like your bimbos. What can I say? Your attempt to put people into best little boxes has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:49 AM
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For you, sure. For my husband, the difference mattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:41 AM
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Would Chads eventually break and start dating women for three years before sex? 3 years is a long time. Most women like sex with attractive men. Women do not want to date for 3 years without sex any more than a man does. Women just don't want to be sampled along with 30 others like some mf'n Baskin-Robbins. Most women want men to choose based on compatibility and have sex with one woman. Women do not want to be sexless for 3 years. Hell, FDS and many women I know in real life wouldn't want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:36 AM
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No man has ever gotten that from me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:19 AM
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You seem pretty obsessed with money in every post. One person called you out, and now I can practically tell which posts are you. I'll check the username to see if it's you, and it always is. Have you considered that commitment is a major thing for FDS, even far more important than money? FDS says it's important to have your own money, and a man's little pittance of money spent on the odd treat is merely an investment to show his commitment. FDS is after commitment, and not money, for the most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:17 AM
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This is really hard to say because everyone is different, honestly. I think it takes experience to know what works for you, to be honest. If you are lacking in experience, which it sounds like you are, I would recommend doing another date or two. Do not kiss if you don't want to. If you want to give kissing a try after he exhibits high effort, there's nothing wrong with that. Pandemic dating is difficult because the usual higher-effort things are going to be closed/limited in so many places righ…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 09:27 PM
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I have a sister with c-PTSD who has also been diagnosed with BPD. My husband, on the other hand, was thrown into group therapy for like a nanosecond and monitored, but he was never even screened for BPD as far as I know. His symptoms were such a close fit that I first learned about BPD not regarding my sister, but from research about my husband. All of that is to say nothing about how my female ADHD was undiagnosed until I diagnosed myself in my mid twenties. Equal opportunity in mental health i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/20 06:41 AM
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I've seen my husband cry over relationship issues and over over his past transgressions from before he met me. I still married him and love him. If anything, I think seeing him cry made me see him as more human. As much as these red pill types like to say men can't be human as mess up or show any sign of hesitation, that's bull. Bravery is pushing past fear and struggles. My opinion of my husband is that he is brave, and I probably think that moreso after seeing him cry. Why? Because I understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:13 AM
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Oof! Sorry you were spoken to that way. It's not cute or okay.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/20 03:22 PM
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“we aren’t sexually compatible bc you won’t sleep with me exactly when I want you to” At this point, don't even argue with them. Just be like "you're right, goodbye." These lines are nothing but bait to get you to argue/change. They know what they're spewing is absolute nonsense, and they will stop at nothing to get what they want. They will never be accepting of who you are as a person if it doesn't directly serve them. No matter what they said, the end result of your boundary is the same: you …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 02:32 PM
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Just ask for pictures if you really want to be socially conscious here, especially on apps because you 99% likely want to see more when swiping. For a blind date, pictures or social media is the safest ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 05:27 AM
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Interesting how you bring up Bella, because I thought the same thing when I first read the series. Now that I look back on it, that was a real Queen attitude I had about her being not only mopey, but also boring. It took me 2 tries, I think, to complete the first book. My verdict was that it was okay, and I wanted to read the next one to relieve boredom and have something to talk about with my girlfriends. We all know what happens in the second book: the mopey breakup. Bella seemed to have entir…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/20 05:21 AM
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I learned that trusting someone else is a choice you make every day over and over again. I learned that I had some really bad issues with social interactions that needed to be worked on. Basically, there us a time, place, and way to share feelings/information. I learned that no one person can be entirely good for you or entirely bad for you. I learned that I just want to be treated like a normal woman, despite certain clear differences. Not being made to feel like a freak makes a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:27 AM
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Not the commenter, but all this tells me is that the need for sufficient (and as equal as possible) attraction is something that does need to be discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 03:47 AM
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I was one of those women, and you have no idea what you're talking about. I was not only one of those women, but also a virgin myself, because I genuinely cared about waiting. 18? 18 is super young, by the way. The majority of minors should absolutely not be having sex at all. That's how you get dropouts and increased abortion rates or teen motherhood rates. 18 is when people hopefully start to know better, and only sometimes considering even adults aren't always responsible. What the hell do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:43 AM
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I mean, honestly, what do you think we are hoping people are going to do under control of sex? Be kind and commit? No person who is waiting wants to force someone to do that. It would ever end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:23 AM
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That sounds narrow minded, honestly. "Control" and "not seeing sex as important" are not anywhere near the only reasons to want to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:18 AM
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I'll agree, and I'll note that I'm different because of my STEM interests and my lack of feminine capability lol. Unfortunately, sometimes I'm bad at fitting in with other wonderful ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:01 AM
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Why would a woman who actually cares enough to wait be worse at it? Doesn't make sense. Like I said, I waited, so I just know from my end. Saying wait-for-it girls are terrible just sounds like propaganda, to be honest. It's clearly the opposite of what should be expected. Unless your standards which are "normally expected of the guy" include kink. To get slightly graphic, being on top and pillow talk takes very little skill and most women I know of like to, as I have heard a few stories. I wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:31 PM
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No, you didn't, but most men on here do. That's how I can tell it's not hard for them to find a woman who would satisfy them in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:04 PM
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If that were true, men would not rush casual sex with randoms and then discard them as if sex was the only prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:54 PM
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I... I... they literally had sex with you. I know it's your life and all, but are you sure that lack of attraction can remotely explain any of that? I know it's not my business, but that was the first thought that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:47 PM
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LOL, lucky girls. Can't say I'm so lucky. Why would you even break up? With my husband, it's not even a fight. It's just that not all people are hypersexual all the time. Sex drives fluctuate. Less so for men I hear, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:13 PM
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That's your situation, though. I've heard most parents say it's super difficult with a newborn, honestly. I've also heard of partners getting chronically ill. Several women in my family weren't through breast cancer treatments. Even more people go through long distance patches with spouses who travel for work and stuff. There are reasons why sometimes you have to wait. Pouting about the first few months with someone you barely know just seems desperate and overager to me, even if waiting later i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:11 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but when I want to be friends, it's because I actually want to be friends. I'm a great friend, and I don't ask friends to help me move. I also don't talk to men about feels or whatever to men. Men never get it. I'm insulted only when I get called a bad friend for no reason. I have worth outside of sex. I don’t mind not being friends. I mind when someone says it's my fault. It's not, I'm a great friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:02 PM
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I can see that if it someone I meet and am immediately attracted to rejects me. I can't see cutting off with a long-term friend, or with someone who is cool but happens to be seeing someone else when I meet them. I would just move on and be with someone else. That man won't cross my mind at all after a time, and it won't be awkward. He would just be another acquaintance ideally. I agree that it doesn't happen like that all the time, since people are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:55 PM
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So accurate! LVM don't even help, they just clown around. There is literally no use for them. All we can count on is ourselves and our friends, family for those who are lucky enough.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 06:28 PM
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Have you ever been married? My husband has been in a crap mood with the pandemic and a career change, and he has turned LL. He's just going through some stuff. If I got an attitude with him and didn't just live my own life, how do you think he would take that? I'd be the nagging, annoying wife trope. Can't be that way with your partner. It's important to be able to have a life outside of sex, and that includes getting to know a person first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:23 PM
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Oh interesting lol. Yeah, I wouldn't have done toothpaste myself. I would do cold water and aloe vera. I never heard of the toothpaste thing, and if it doesn't work that explains why OP was in so much pain. Yeah, a boyfriend who would have helped her out would have done her much better, huh?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 06:12 PM
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And after the birth, many can't for a while, even if just due to the noisy baby and sleep deprivation. Or sometimes pregnancy is extremely uncomfortable, and the woman doesn't want to. People are not constant sex machines, even when in love and committed. The ability to wait a relatively short time is really valuable, not for everyday situations but from time to time when your woman can't serve your every sexual whim for whatever medical/situational reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:02 PM
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So not what I said. You're extremely dense. Good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:38 PM
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You'd be wrong lol. Sex is not rocket science. 90+% of sex with chemistry and effort can be great, and putting months into vetting assures that you've found a suitable match for it. Putting months into vetting means you probably care about the sex and communication being smooth. I waited, and that's how I feel. My husband had no complaints- he married me. To me, a drunken hookup (or just a hookup with someone who doesn't care about me from Eve) sounds a lot worse than sex with someone who has co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:37 PM
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She put the toothpaste on her own hand, which is good. He could have checked on the pizza/oven himself without asking her, that would have been helpful. But sometimes in shock we speak before we think. At least that would be understandable. Showing her his shoe, and complaining about his own burns when he was not the one currently burnt? Not okay at all, and shows a severe lack of compassion. By the time he got into that, he should have at least given her a hug and taken a look at the hand himse…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 05:26 PM
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Hahahha! And you were the one in our conversation earlier calling WOMEN fake and bitchy? Cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:46 PM
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Good to know you can see multiple perspectives here. I feel like there are very good people of both genders, very bad people of both genders, and a lot of both genders who are somewhere in between very good and very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:45 PM
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Do YOU like people thinking you are shallow and bitchy? No. You probably protect your own image, too. It's not dishonest or cowardly if you follow through with what you're saying, and if you don't compromise your own convictions. There is no conviction against remaining friendly with someone in your social group, definitely not for women. Women like to keep their acquaintances/friends, and so do men to a lesser extent. I could understand thinking it's pretty fake to claim to care about friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:33 PM
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Wow. That's disgusting. And to think that some men on here wonder why the smarter women have learned to be choosy, assertive, and self-preserving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:06 PM
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Oh, this is 100% projection. Softening the blow doesn't mean you don't actually want to be friends if the guy is okay with it, especially if the guy is in your social group. You are thinking like a man who has no interest in socializing for socialization's sake. Women do NOT have a conviction against being friends like you do. You are projecting. Just because women say this at a time to soften the blow doesn't make them less honest. You also seem to have fun generalizing women in the worst possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:02 PM
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Hanging out is one thing, but to not be able to have good conversations every now and then in a group setting would look bad for you (like if we met at a holiday party or a working lunch). I'm pretty cool, and healthy people tend to like me. We don't have to go fishing together or watch the game because I get it I'm a lady, but at least be able to mingle with people who aren't the best of the best match for you all the time. Different people have their merits, and variety is cool in life. I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:47 PM
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Hmm, well not ALL men anymore. Enough men, certainty; in ny experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:09 PM
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FDS back in middle school? I probably would have maintained the boundaries that would have saved my friendship/connection with my HVB (high value boy). I would have also felt a lot more confident and been able to socialize more effectively with other people. Life would have been less of a struggle. I didn't fully embrace FDS until about 18, although I did have a lot of the foundation even from middle school years. I just needed a bit more practical guidance with strategies and probably some more…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/08/20 05:56 AM
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Hahaha... yeah, you are supposed to actually like her kids because she bothered to raise them well. Holding that over a single mom's head like a liability is a pretty bad look in my opinion. All kids are a bit if an inconvenience, so admitting parenting is struggles. Acting like she ought to make it up to you? Kind of manipilative tbh. Quit asking for a discount on treating someone right. If it's too much, get out if the dating game. Time commitments are a thing you are supposed to want with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 09:41 PM
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Yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:38 PM
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I actually like men, and my sexuality is directly connected not just to the physical world but to my feelings. I am straight, and therefore, I genuinely like men. It makes no sense at all for someone to want to bang someone they hate. I would never have hate sex. This is why waiting 3+ months (definitley longer for me) is important. I am not trying to "manipulate" by waiting, I just don't want to do the dnace with no pants until I can be sure that we like each other for who we are. I fail to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:38 PM
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Here is a little secret: you can just dump her in a month if you don't like where it's going, who cares. True. I mean, after months of knowing each other and if all goes well, most men would probably prefer not to break. Either way, it's possible to leave with little blowback in the event that something goes wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:30 PM
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Back when I was dating trustworthy clearly and consistently interested (initiates dates, positive conversations, and eventually kisses within comfortable frequency) can hold an interesting conversation outstandingly attractive (subjective) sense of humor (funny and laughs with me) decisive early on that he is looking for a long-term relationship hardworking/ambitious respectful (no early sexual conversations, no seeing other women in front of my face, no sexist "jokes," listens when I speak, wor…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/20 02:07 PM
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Is your dog me though? It sounds like your dog is me. Maybe I am your dog.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/20 06:37 AM
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Women expect men to know how to flirt, approach, fuck, and deal with women by 16 and to never mess up. What are you on about? Whaaaat?? Never met a man, even 30+ who didn't regularly mess up. I absolutely know that men mess up. My own father did before my mother. I'm not stupid, I have eyes, and I never had such a mistaken expectation. I don't know a single female who did. They see men screw up, and even occasionally... forgive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:26 AM
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I literally am living it LOL, you divorced, or still married?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:21 AM
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That's very strange, not going to lie. Ugly is ugly despite a suit. Decisiveness and confidence? Sure, that makes a difference to me. The suit probably LOOKS good, too. But the money and status, nah I'm not really here for that. Only care if I have to marry into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:50 AM
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My scenarios aren't silly. You really think women want to have sex for status and money? No. Marriage arguable, but sex not outside of extreme outliers. My "scenarios" are real life where earning money/minimal status by working a job between 18 and 30 doesn't net a man much sexual value. Your definition of determining sexual value is skewed. I mean, most men don't want a woman whose standards are on the floor. They don't want to wife the town bike, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:43 AM
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Best case scenario, if the man takes care of himself and gets status? Maybe he stays stagnant, but he won't increase. Younger women want virility as much as men want virility in women. Most middle aged women aren't so easily impressed by a man who worked a decent job like any grown man should. Women might decrease depending on the demographic, I give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:32 AM
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For example it's pretty clear that a man's SMV won't always increase as he gets older. Receding hairline and beergut offset a man's increase in financial success between 18 and 30, so I could respond to stuff like that, but I'm over it. The finances might be more important if women weren't getting successful themselves, but money can't control the game anymore. Ugly is still ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:23 AM
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No, I dont need peer reviewed studies. Just thought I would respond to a more objective point in your comments. But I'm kinda over it honestly, I had to go back and overjustify why I am responding to a point, sooo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:19 AM
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Okay, so you said "All the fucking time and even if they didn't, it doesn't have to the be the same person as the SMV curve is the same." "It doesn't have to the be the same person" That was the main part I was responding to. The only thing I can say to your anectodal experience about women coming back is "cool story." My "diatribe" was in response to your saying it doesn't have to be the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:13 AM
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Whatever. That's fine. You said you didn't understand the rest of my post, which is a hell of a lot mire relevant thab YOUR estimation of how often women pursue former rejects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:08 AM
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The SMV curve is just a predictor if a man could be accepted/rehected, it is not 100% accurate on what man is going to he first choice. Women have types, for example. Low comparative self-rating is not 100% proof that you aren't (or wouldnt have been) a woman's first choice. Without proof, you can't reject a wiman based on assumptions (that you are not her first choice). The real reason to reject the woman is possibly "she's not young enough" or "I haven't finished having my fun pumping and dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 05:02 AM
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The SMV curve is a predictor- not an absolute. Claiming that a woman is trying to use you requires more substantiation than a statistical hunch. Claiming that a woman is using you is quite an accusation, and to avoif commitment with someone you would otherwise want would require actual proof. Unless you're just trying to pump and dump and go for younger women, which is fine but you don't need to bring suspected judgments about the women your age into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:40 AM
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becoming a woman's beta bux, her backup plan, after being denied her youth and prime. Like another commenter said, it's difficult for me to understand that this is happening at all. How many women come around later to pursue those men she rejected previously? How often does that really happen? "So what you didn't get sex in highschool/college get over it. Women chase bad boys, get hurt and then mature." I mean, it isn't your new interest's fault that 100 other women rejected you before. If you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 03:17 AM
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My standards from 11-14 Is he that one boy who I only have eyes for? If yes, great. If no, then it's over for him. Yeah, my first relationship was... weird for that age. My standards at 14-16 Is he slightly good looking? Does he make me laugh and say smart things? Is he not constantly rude? Literally, that was it for me to have a crush on and flirt with a boy. At 17 Same as 16, but does he make me feel pretty sometimes as well? Is the flirting at least reciprocated and fun? That way I can protec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:54 AM
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Loser, in this context, is defined by something like "A man to whom I would lose most of my time and effort in the duration of our hypothetical relationship. Otherwise known as: an undesirable, undateable waste of time for me." How to spot a loser? Hot and cold treatment, especially in communication. Anything less than consistent and eager communication over a period of months, and you've got a loser. Bringing up their history with other women, or just bringing up another woman too much, is a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:48 AM
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Yes, pretty much this. It was early 20's for me. What changed for me? I saw some negative patterns enough to detect the wrong type of guy earlier. At first, I would have gone on 1 date with any cute guy. I might have even told the cute guy my feelings for him. By 21, I gradually learned a lot of lessons to spot the losers quicker. I learned that, if a grown man doesn't ask you out, he doesn't really want to date you. I learned what a man who is attracted to me looks like versus a man who is not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:02 AM
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Yup, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:29 PM
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Interesting. That's not something I observed when young, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:30 PM
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Alrighty then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:15 PM
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But it's true, regardless of whether or not someone says it Doesn't make it good dating strategy to treat a potential LTR as disposable. depends on if you're sufficiently valuable Eh, fair point made. I don't need to ever monogamously commit. Not even to reproduce! Yeah, as long as you can live with consequences and you are valuable enough for a woman to go along. Well sure, I'd buy dinner for a virgin 🤷‍♂️ And that's where things get complicated. Ate you going to ask a woman if she's a virgin b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:14 PM
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I mean for any given level of person, they will be able to get sexual access to a hotter girl by paying directly Idk... don't a lot of thise women charge more than most men can afford even if the men tried to save up? It's pretty irrelevant so long as at least some attractive women are willing to spread their legs (which, thanks to liberation, they are) Irrelevant to you, maybe, fair enough. It wasn't irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:04 PM
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Oh, I mean, I agree with you in the sense of a man who only wants cheap sex. I agree, and that man is far far off my radar. I've been told I have stricter standards than most. I'm just saying, you said pay a HOTTER girl. Don't be asking out the not-so-hot girl, for less money or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:58 PM
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Are you "outchea" asking out uggos? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:54 PM
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How's it going finding your traditional woman, mate? Hint: it would be going better if you didn't believe your own crap. Any virgin homemaker woman with half a brain will not go out with you just to be treated as disposable. Even if your Diana did go out with you, you would cheat with Camila and your Diana would be driven away. I'm saying this is a risk for you specifically because I know how much you are driven by sex (probably even moreso than most men). Of course there are other options, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:53 PM
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All good points. I guess I never thought of "doesn't fear consequences" as a reason to dead bedroom one's partner. I innately know that there would be consequenses, even if I don't think that cheating would be the consequence. It does make sense that some people would be affected by seeing cheating consequences that way, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:01 PM
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Personally, I really recommend against that. You should be exclusive because and after he has proven that he is worth getting to know on a deeper level, so you no longer have interest in seeing other men. Money hlor bills being paid has nothing to do with whether it is worth your energy to focus on one man. Money is a man's investment, not a main value. Ask yourself: is a man a good boyfriend because he pays a second set of bills in exchange for your exclusivity outside of marriage? Or is a man …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/08/20 04:49 AM
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So how does that make you less likely to dead bedroom someome? Not that I'm convinced it's a common thing for any woman to do anymore outside of extreme circumstances. By the time most people run the same job for 2o years, they get very fatigued. I'm sure it would be different with a partner, but still more likely to cause sexual fatigue than extraordinary sexual openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:21 AM
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Is this really true? You don't think that people who sell their body are capable of getting tired of sex with a particular person? I wouldn't be inclined to believe that, personally. In fact, I might suspect plenty of prostitutes experience a lot of fatigue over time. Not all, but some.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:22 AM
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In order to leave, I would have to ve of the mindset that 1) he doesn't care to fix the problem Or 2) I don't care to fix the problem As long as there is clear effort, I'm good. If your guy and girl start hitting the gym together to work on their physical health and wellness, for example, they'll probably be good. The goal for your guy would be to get back physically and mentally to the place they were in the beginning where he was vigorous and excited to be with his woman. He would have to be w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:45 PM
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All men aren't you. My marriage is childfree. You can think what you want, but all men aren't you. Imagine if I spoke for all women, this sub would bite my head off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:36 AM
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The kind of man I am compatible with (supposedly the same kind of men all women are compatible with, according to another commenter) wants more than casual sex outside of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:56 AM
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/sub Wow. Very impressed!!!! Would award if I was wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:55 AM
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Sterile woman here. Not even going to lie, my husband was pretty stoked, and I didn't expect that! We're going to be as super cool rich aunt/uncle though traveling the world and stuff. We are satisfied with that for the time being. I am potentially open to adoption depending on how much we are able to prepare and have fun first, but at our young age, adoption is not even on his radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:58 PM
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I don't claim to speak for men who I don't know. My husband seems to say it's my intelligence, loyalty, and ability to match his effort. He doesn't mind that I am close to surpassing him in earning power, either. I will also shortly do a great deal of cooking and decorating for the household that he would never do himself. I do this because I have much higher standards than him. Does he care about my bed and bath decor? No, not really, because he refuses to participate. He's just glad I let him …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:48 PM
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Nick's a common one, I think
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/20 02:50 AM
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LOL, if that's what you think, you would have never had any value to me. My husband actually appreciates the fact that I made love to him instead of just, well, mechanical release. At least I hope he does. He isn't perfect, but at least that much is a requirement. Was a virgin when we met...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:03 PM
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How is 3 months long? It takes 45 days of waiting to determine HIV status from last possible exposure. Why pay for that test with someone you aren't even sure you're going to want a relationship? 3 months seems very reasonable if not short, seeing as how I waited longer with my husband. I've actually had to make a journey alone for longer than 3 months since my marriage. It's important to be able to wait in case of childbirth or chronic illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:48 PM
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she risks to be abused": rapists don't care about consent, and spending more months with one keeping him wanting and sexless is way riskier than having sex once and then ghosting. Rapists do not rape for sexlessness. They rape for a sense if control over others. If she jumps into bed on the third date, she might not be able to detect that immediately. She will have had consensual sex with a rapist and possibly have been abused during it. If she waits 3 months, there is a much higher of her chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:18 PM
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Lol like I said, not a blood pact or "signing your life away." So dramatic. I'm not being inspected like a purchase. Thats supposed to be hot? Nooo. I wanted to be wanted for who I am. But I don't feel like even you believe your crap. You just want to pump and dump, or else a relationship wouldn't make you bat an eye 9/10 times. Couldn't be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:51 AM
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........... are you male or female? And how young and hot are you? Because she's still ridiculously gorgeous. What I'm seeing is men who are attacking her personality for being too masculine and assertive rather than meek, deferential, and ditzy. To me that means not being a bimbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:30 AM
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Not the commenter, but boy you have it wrong. Any guy in his right mind would recognize her value right away. No. Men are not a hivemind. Low or high value, this is not reality for any woman. For high cakue woman, she woyld be cicnerbed about the man proving that HE is high value over time. He won't necessarily value her, but that is for him to decide over time while she decides if she values him. It’s not in your best interest to have sex because you have nothing else to offer. Very, very wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:26 AM
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See, I kind of get your point, but yet also here are the men on PPD saying she isn't enough of a meek bimbo, and that is objectively strange. Either way, men will do what men do just like women will. There's no use in trying to change them. I agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:00 AM
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You make points. PPD is the place where I see men wanting bimbos lol, well and in ved sometimes when they can't do better, but yeah. Public figure possibly has something to do with it. When I was 19 I was already smart, so I dont remember having a certain mindset really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:59 AM
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Possible. That advice certainly applied to my life, but I'm a heck of a lot uglier and broker than she is! She seems smart, though. I bet she would know pretty quickly if she was asking for someone out if her league. Sounds like she's saying that men at every league are having issues committing to anyone who isn't a bimbo, which is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:45 AM
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Not necessarily. A lot of the men I dated had very little relationship experience. It's hard out there for men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:27 AM
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............ Maybe she would rather have someone smart to talk to and work with than someone "to put up with more shit"? How is this not considered the default for normal and healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:22 AM
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I married one of them. Yeah, it is a rather small group that I would have been compatible with, true, but it worked for me as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:19 AM
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All fair points, although perhaps different points of view from what I saw at first glance. Particularly about men being invisible. I see men who talk to me, especially ones who can respect me as a driven woman in the workplace. Pundits play a valuable role in getting out the conversation, and they make money, so that is probably as close as most can get in this life as a respectable job. It's not all sunshine and roses, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:11 AM
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What the hell? What is it that people are seeing that I'm missing? She's basically saying "Hey, I'm not a bimbo, and I've found that this doesn't really play well with adult men. This is objectively strange." If this comes out like calling someone an immature boy, sorry you can't handle the truth, butttt...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:07 AM
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My wording was unclear. I am about to edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:56 AM
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If she is collateral damage, then she makes a good point getting this problem out in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:55 AM
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This entire tirade is about her wanting to lock down Chad, failing at it, and then going on a rant. No. Her video was an observation that grown men are seeking a type, and that type is basically bimbos. You are making it personal, but it was observations about her friends as well. It was observations about who she sees with men. This is unbiased facts which the comments on this thread are corroborating! I said that she will "chase off any self respecting guy for an LTR.". That's not necessarily …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:51 AM
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I mean, honestly, you really think she was giving sex up easily? She isn't the type. It takes one to know one, and I know she's the type to not he easy. She wasn't getting used for sex, but she wasn't meeting men who were serious either. The question being why? And you know what, you've given me a final gift before leaving this place. I realize why. It's because men are judgmental as hell. A woman can't so much as imply that grown men should be mentally and emotionally connecting with a strong e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:18 AM
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Chads are not vending machines where you can put affection coins and expect a relationship to come out. Way to misunderstand me. Like I said, your comprehension skills are awful. If Chad can have his boundaries, so can she. She can ignore Chad if he doesn't give her what she wants. Fair is fair. No, I said the opposite. She feels entitled to Chad, when Chad is just using her for sex, like 19 other girls. You implied that she was plenty beautiful, which she is. You implied that, with a good perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:13 AM
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Ummm, she has tried dating multiple men. So have her friends. This is not at all about one man. I sure as hell hope a hot woman like her isn't bothered by some non-committal man skank. Anyway she's a conservative- she would have waited for commitment if that was what she wanted, and she wouldn't be out here complaining. Sex was not the problem here for her. She probably waited. Source: Me, a conservative, I waited and it worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:52 AM
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Congrats your comment got me to leave PPD. I mean, not just you obviously, but this is ridiculous. She should probably be abel to get a Chad, literally, and you admit it. Just because she wants more than an "I'm horny" text in exchange for her affections, does not mean she is entitled. What is wrong about her peraonality? She has every reason to be confident, and confidence is sexy. It is absolutely men's problem if you lot can't stand any sort of emotional or mental connection with a great woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:48 AM
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Doubt the staging, but trouble for sure. Ask me how I know.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/20 12:17 AM
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Woman here 1) Abusive boyfriend on whom I am dependent. This would never happen. I am never dependent, and cheating is never okay for me. It's necessary for self-repsect that I am neither independent or involved in cheating. 2) Orbiter. Let him down an gently as possible, hopefully he takes the hint and we can figure out something that works for us. Sometimes they can handle being equal friends, and sometimes they have to go. 3) This would also never happen. I would never be with a man for 3 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 10:29 PM
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Yeah, yeah, sorry about that. Can't edit the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:20 PM
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I fully agree that people should have options. Everybody has options, honestly. It's a big population on this planet. There's a gradient to wanting sex. There's "maybe this is an option, I could investigate the possibility of wanting this person." There's "I'm absolutely ready to have sex, I want this." There's also "NO, this is off limits. I don't care what else is offered, the deal has already been broken." What makes me fearful about not being able to control sexual attraction? Umm, the possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:08 PM
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That depends on your use of "sexual attraction." Is it possible to notice, or even date and have fun with a few people at the same point of your life? Absolutely, and probably inevitable sometimes. Some people are poly for all of their lives. I get this. That's not the whole story, or else monogamy wouldn't exist. I do not look at Jason Monoa now the same way I would if we were both single and actually dating, or if we were in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:42 PM
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I'm actually really sick of certain men pretending that they don't understand this. There is a reason why you all RAIL against "monkey branching." You know full well that a woman isn't supposed to feel anywhere near close to sleeping with someone else when she is with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:33 PM
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Cognitive dissonance is thinking you want to have an exclusive relationship and sex outside your relationship at the same time, regardless of how wonderful another person might be. What exactly is it that you think I have to accept? That my colleague is tall, dark, handsome, funny, and smart? Accepted. He's kind, and a joy to be around. Accepted. Feeling that is not the same as wanting to have sex. I'm not interested in anything except working with him. It would still be creepy and disrespectful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:28 PM
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Right. Because not wanting to have sex with someone who isn't interested makes me less emotionally intelligent. I am married, too. I have a worthwhile love life in addition to the rest of my life, thank you. Have you ever been married? Wanting to have sex has a lot more to it than just physical attraction. If you don't see that, YOU are the emotionally unintelligent one. Note that the original comment said "want to have sex with." Not "feel attracted to."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:10 PM
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LOL mass updoot top comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:38 AM
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I don't think you need to view yourself as more important to set strong boundaries in a committed relationship. Where those boundaries are determines what kind of person will fit your requirements, this is very true. All FDS or TRP boundaries may not necessarily be so unreasonable that a person would have to lack self-respect. I could argue one way or another, perhaps, but no two TRP men or FDS women will set the exact same boundaries. I think there are users who are reasonable and users who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 03:34 AM
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Yeah. I mean who said all of either subreddit is dark triad types? I am completely the opposite of dark triad, probably not even following FDS 100%, but I still have my very strong boundaries and an abundance mentality in my life the best that I can. I waited a long time to be with my one and only partner, my husband. Refused to move in together before marriage and all of that. I could never be with a TRP man. Literally never. I'm not with a doormat type, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:24 PM
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I don't think people need their total opposites. In fact, I think most people with genuine boundaries would appreciate the other party having boundaries as well. Two parties with enough abundance can still decide that they are happy with each other, but abundance mentaloty doesn't mean flaunting other people to your commited partner. It just means not being need, and knowing what you want. I think that 2 people treating the other well and having boundaries can easily get together. Now, a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:11 PM
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Yes! Not yes but hell yes! Momoa is a married man who wants nothing to do with me. No thank you at all, I would maybe get his autograph on a movie case and that's it, no funny business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 09:23 PM
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I’ll never be high value due to reasons behind my control. Now THAT isn't true. FDS would day you could always be high value for the right man ad long as you're trying your best. Full-on FDS or not, you have to agree that being with a man who doesn't treat you as high value is an unpleasant proposition. This is an objective truth. I'm sure you can do better on your own than with some guy you have to chase after. What does FA mean, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:12 PM
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I pretty much agree with you. With this glut of people on the planet, there are many compatible matches to go around for everyone. If people don't want a LTR, that's on them, not on entire globe full of the opposite gebder. Also, it makes you pretty clingy when you think there is literally only ONE possible good match for you and you think you've found them. TRP is right about abundance being important, but they are wrong in how it's important. Women don't want you to flaunt a bunch of other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:06 PM
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You do have a point. There are extreme cases. Being short on time, too much to drink, not being physically able at the time. Those are all valid points in life every now and then. In my case, it's been a 100% rule for the longest time. When you're married to a lower libido man and you finally manage to get some, you want the deed completed to satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:30 PM
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It is for us, and it would be for me for any future first time together, although I am married and not planning for a split If the guy doesn't mind continuing after, sure, maybe after the woman can trust him to not leave her hanging. My husband prefers to go out with his own finale, so rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:22 PM
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With quarantine, I popped onto this sub out of boredom. It'a interesting to see new perspectives and I kind of get "socially distant socualization" from it. I just noticed some family members and the one Plan B guy friend talking about this lately. I also saw studies shared on here. Could only locate the one to link up, though. I'll be honest: even my husband recently admitted to not being as responsible in his past as I had hoped. I originally wanted to post just a PSA warning people to not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 06:05 PM
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Eh, sort of. Went to a large University, but I didn't have many female classmates due to my major. The ones I did have were more concerned with making that paper and bank than ho-ing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:57 PM
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Yes, personally a man who doesn't know "ladies come first" would be a dealbreaker for me. We probably wouldn't even get through the first session because I would end the relationship and kick him out/go home.***** I'm so glad that my one and only, my husband, taught me better than to deal with that. ***** Unless the guy is a virgin/inexperienced, in which case I would understand the woman having to lead a bit. This man would just have to be open to instruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:54 PM
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Men, I think, are less likely to vi⁶ew it that way, and it could be more out of interia/laziness than anything, but regardless, it puts men at a disadvantage to not see the situation for what it is. Men aren"t stupid. If these men cared about marriage and commitment, these men would ask in a timely manner. He knew full well I was never moving in with him until we married. He knew full well that I would have an easier time breaking up a marriage than a relationship. This is lorerally what caused …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:39 PM
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That would be a good idea for an edit! But Mario also looks a lot stronger, and even has a better mustache in the picture as well, though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 02:32 PM
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I just had to double check what you meant; because women trying to go raw STILL shocks me in those situations. Oh, I'm married and I certainly wouldn't want to use one, but I've never been the type of woman you're describing. I've never even met a woman who is to my knowledge. If I was a guy, I wouldn't select for that in my opinion. That's just me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:30 PM
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......... 3 date rule? As in always must bump uglies by date 3? No wonder you had only the ONE LTR that went differently. Look at what you're selecting for most times. Sorry for coming across harsh, but yeah. Also, are these 49/50 women drunk? And what do you do, pull one out anyway or just risk it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:48 AM
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That sounds fair. 21 years and children is a good stretch so far! You are serving humanity, thank you for that. Best wishes to you and yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:40 AM
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I want a mass updoot. This needs to be top comment please. Awards and all. Go, people, go!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 07:34 AM
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So, I saw the ad on FDS and I was thinking the same thing. How could anyone sexualize this? Then, I went to look into some of the common symbolism. I saw the ridiculous caption that came with the ad “Let your heart beat faster — in every aspect." Let me be clear: that is NOT a suitable caption for an ad featuring a safe, family car to lean on. This ad is not so innocent as I would have wanted to believe. It takes the internet for many of us to relize what is going on here if we care. Others alre…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/08/20 06:41 AM
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Do you do things casually sometimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:59 AM
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Having a girlfriend isn't everything in life. A halfway passable personality is needed for working in groups or even getting a wider group of male friends. Fixing an utterly broken personality is always helpful, where the issue exists and is fixable, anyway. I would say therapy tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:58 AM
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Elliot Rodger sure af was. Internet people are also more likely to focus on personality issues because that's what they see. In person, maybe fashion, groomingn, or other looksmaxxing tips could be given easier. Much harder through the internet. These days, most people who are smart don’t even like to post themselves, especially not on an incel forum. How are you going to see an absolutely glaring, crippling personality issue like "inceldom" and not say that it needs fixing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:57 AM
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This is what some PPD men don't get, too. To your very average (arguably, but close enough probably) Becky like me, that 10/10 buff guy is a nightmare for anything more long-term. He ought to stick within his own group as far as I'm concerned. Of course, people who aren't looking for long term are exactly his group, and that includes the women you're describing. So, in your estimation, women do really like sexual variety then! Interesting. Yeah, wow, condom use definitely needs to be more of a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:52 AM
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married women and women with boyfriends ..... what... wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:31 AM
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Fair in some cases, including casual sex since men seem to chase it for fun. I married my first, so since you appear to at least have had some, then I have had less casual than you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:28 AM
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Umm, no? I didn't say you could never judge. I said you have to look at the big picture. One number isn't a big picture. Also, barf at saying women can't be logical. I've probably made more logical decisions and had less casual sex than you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:10 AM
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Omg, this is literally what that one Plan B guy said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:16 AM
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I mean, with my husband, I have never used them myself or wanted to. We are exclusive, we use multiple other means of pregnancy prevention, and because of our great bond I care that he sees me as the potential mother of his children, so forcing a condom would definitely feel like an insult in a small way to put a physical barrier between us. My solution was to not bed randoms- my husband has always been my one and only. I cannot imagine casual women beahving this way, that's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:13 AM
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Oh my goodness, wow...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:09 AM
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I kind of assumed the same thing about men, but research was focused on women's intentions. Glad you learned better! I knew better from way young despite being sheltered, but as a married woman alternatives were necessarily found.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:59 AM
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I agree, and I'm just astounded that so many people don't be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:55 AM
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Oh wow it's a bot..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:50 AM
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.... yes, I made a couple of typos. Is this what you came to add?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:49 AM
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Why? I am a woman, as I thought I stated here...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:28 AM
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Maybe 10% among mainstream American women. Most women I talk to don't even understand how to have sex once or twice with a man they aren't attracted to. Some of the women who came to mind when I answered this question are married to very ugly men in my opinion, but the women still want these men somehow. Love is a hell of a drug. With all of the male concern about this issue, I can only speak from my perspective. I admit that my feminine perspective will only go so far. Perhaps practical male ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:17 AM
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Eh, okay you're right, often times incompatibility is the main issue. In the context of this conversation, the man I was talking to seemed to be advocating for risk factors on the male end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:02 AM
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... all the poorest separated couples I know cant even afford to officially divorce. Although, yes, I'm sure that when one party (usually the man) intentionally tanks the lifestyle of the couple unilaterally, it causes an issue. I also know other couples who divorced when the man was doing very well financially, but he was disconnected mentally/emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:32 AM
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And I think you, too, make a good point. As a woman, I'm probably a lot more comfortable single when I'm not out trolling for different men and begging them to Pickme<sup>tm</sup> . Cannot say for sure since I never behaved that way when single, I guess. Men do not feel the same. This is, of course, the reason why I don't believe women are usually better off initiating regardless of other equal life roles. There is more than one possible helathy approach to life, and there are also multiple unhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 10:09 PM
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Sure, it's a lot easier to break off when you're not married. Doesn't mean bad things can't happen. I personally think the most common thing to happen is that, while you are trolling for simply wet dick, you are putting Diana on the back burner and she can get swept up by someone else. Pregnancy and child support could also happen. Someone trashing your reputation, or your car, could happen. None of these things are guaranteed, but they are possible, especially the more you roll the dice. What i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:46 PM
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Umm, it's more honest to break off in normal course. Call it a logical fallacy if you want, but I find that being open about what I want has worked out pretty well for me. Like you said, get the sacrificed goat up front, right? You could go out today and begin to locate your perfect homemeaker virgin wife if you started putting in the effort. You'd likely never owe child support, you'd see your children more, and you'd trust your children's mother a lot more. I'm not sure how beating around the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:52 PM
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.... does it require thinking amorally? Are there not plenty of women who would say yes to a hookup without some sort of fake relationship? I don't know, I guess. I am not a man. women's best play is to wait to have sex until they receive the relationship/marriage/sacrifical goat they want You saying that you have a relationship pretty much means a woman fulfilled that responsibility. You dipping out is on you, but yeah women should not have trusted you. Of course wouldn't recommend trusting a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:42 PM
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I kinda love this, actually. Wish more TRP men would see this and realize that they definitely have the power still. I'm not using a logical fallacy. I gave you an example with Charles and Camila. No, it isn't 100% certain that you will receive consequences, but does it have to be? Many men just will. Charles did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:26 PM
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It will matter when your future employers see that you aren't a very developed critical thinker. "Dick wet" is the beneath the level of thinking at all, honestly, it's purely instinctual. I won't stop you or have a say, but consequences will happen for your lack.of thinking. For example, you want a nice virgin homemaker wife. How many of those are left if you normalize this behavior? You're damn right, I'm not the one spreading my legs either. A lot of smart women aren't. I can't stop the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:10 PM
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LOL this is supposed to be some worthy foal in life? Really? Not even going to explain why that is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 07:48 PM
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Not.obsessing with looks doesnt mean he has to put a bag over my head or close his eyes and imagine someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 07:18 PM
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I will note, though, that I have at least one upvote now as well so that's cool. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:22 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. I have nothing against men wanting to be wanted, truly. I don't understand why women doing the same is baffling so many of the men who are checking out this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:21 PM
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People do things for a reason, even if the things are relatively insignificant. This is a debate sub, not a "downvote because double standards" sub. Sexism makes me sick when it happens, but rest assured I'll move on on in a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:19 PM
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Interesting way to look at it. I could easily imagine a guy who got quick sex turning it into a year-long FWB thing where the woman gets attached and takes more than a day to move on. I've heard that it happens. I've also known men that I took more than a day to get over, again men who I didn't even sleep with. Even for a day with minimal investment, though, I take my own feelings seriously enough not to risk them easily. If I don't, surely no one else will. I think we can both agree that having…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:45 PM
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Well, you skipped over the part about damage done, even in the moment. I wouldn't risk any emotional damage. I'm a cautious person, and I find it unnecessary when I have learned to go without as need be. I've had men do damage when they didn't sleep with me. Would have hated for it to be any worse. I guess I was just curious if narrowing it down to people you are super attracted to lessened the amount of damage done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:32 PM
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Wtf with the downvote? Edit: you know what, I sat on this some more and it REALLY grinds my gears. The idea of women cheating and cucking an unattractive "betabuxx" man is vilified to no end on this sub. Meanwhile, if I even mention the possibility that a man might cheat on a wife he's not even attracted to, everybody loses their minds. Buzz off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:12 PM
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Have you ever found a major jerk/loser through this method? If so, was the damage done significant, even if in the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:10 PM
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Why not be desired for both? Lord, I mean look at men on this sub acting like having slightly less sex or later sex is the worst thing in the world and means they are being used. Men like to be desired phsycially, too. I mean, these are sexual partners we are talking about, not mixed doubles tennis partners. I'm not even sure how it's possible to be naked with and sleep with someone you don't want physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:09 PM
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Of course, majorly bothered and subsequent breakup. I'm literally only in my 20's, and my husband is the only man I've ever been with. Anyone would love my personality, but my husband asked for an exclusive sexual relationship. I'm not giving exclusivity OR sex to someone who isn't very attracted to me in my best years. That would make no sense. If I was 50 and I had my fun with others, I think I might feel less strongly about it, but I still might end the relationship. My husband has a lower li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:44 AM
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I agree that you can't cheat. They're jist doing the best they can with what they have. Not cheating once they figure out what they're getting, which this Becky al least knows. She is getting assholes for the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:30 AM
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Gee, I wonder possibly what an unfulfilling prison of a marriage have to do with turning a woman into a feminist who uses men for their parts. I wonder what could have happened in her marriage to cause such a deep change in her. Even YOU are here calling her a "bulging Becky," and you were never with her. Of course she she's going to think men are assholes if you treat her that way when she never asked for it. What makes you think her husband was such a Saint throughout the marriage? Sorry, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:51 AM
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USA, Texas. My sister lost full custody. She works part time last I heard, and he is some kind of counselor. He makes more for sure. I'm sure you can fill in the blanks on what level of issues had to be portrayed for custody to be taken away from the woman like this. He was much higher earning when they were married, and I'm not saying everything he said in court about her was true, but she made her mistakes, too. I don't have the full truth. Probably no one does at this point. I, personally, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:06 AM
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Yeah, that's not what I expected at all. My sister is a payor, and it's not based on her income.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:32 AM
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Depends on how you define cheating. A kiss can literally be a mistake whereas full-on sex takes planning. Both could be called cheating. Even if someone is up-front about separating, some people consider it cheating to find someone new after a dead bedroom before the divorce is final. Past sexual history does matter. I'd make a determination on the whole person as to whether or not they are really too selfish, sleazy, or plain sexually incompatible. This is why women don't understand the N count…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:26 PM
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Having sex is where the man gets the choice on whether he is risking creating a child, you are right there. It connects sex with possible child support for men. You admit that with your voluntary celibacy until vasectomy. What is the holdup, anyway? Also, good for you that you got equal custody, but I thought that men who get equal custody don't have to pay support to the mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:16 PM
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Cool cool, appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:17 PM
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So you don't have sex? Or you do and you pay child support? Which is it? Because higher caliber women (which are not the kind you are describing that have babies for child support) will not continue to let men hit it and quit it if child support is not an option in the case of genuine accidents. Honestly, I blame men equally if they don't wrap it up or get a vasectomy. Adults know that these things can happen, whether a woman intends it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:16 PM
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Or women actually want kids. There is that option. I don't know. I've always been sexually responsible and cannot even become pregnant, so there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:21 AM
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I mean they wouldn't just want it to be legal in the abstract sense. I mean they would want in practice from you if you're trying to get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:37 AM
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Good Lord...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:24 PM
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Lol what?? You think women don't already do that?? Protection isn't 100%, and any woman who assumes it is isn't behaving super smart
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:05 PM
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...... you do realize what would happen? Women don't love abortion, at least not most. These women would stop being your free prostitutes or forever girlfriends. These women would want marriage with strong legal financial protection. Does that work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 10:02 PM
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Yeah, I would quit before going to HR. But men communicating like men isn't inclusive for a complete workplace that has women in it, women who have skills thay should be used. I dont need to worry about bonding with my coworkers or coming up with better jokes. I need to do my job. If thay wasn't working, if I wasn't in a productive workplace, I would quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:39 PM
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I never actually heard husband material used that way to be honest, but if you have okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:24 PM
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Adult men don't have to change their sense of humor. I know plenty of adult men, and they don't behave that way because "it's funny." Work culture isn't about making jokes, anyway. Work culture is about getting stuff done and sharing ideas without talking over people and supporting rhe company goals, which I am fully capable of adding to thank you. I keep saying it, but you don't want to listen. These are occasional jokes. I have an amazing sense of humor, and I married one of the most juvenile …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:26 AM
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No, I described the systematic turning of a boy's club where women are excluded and interrupted. Penises stopped being funny in like the 6th grade. Men don't even joke like that at my family reunions, so why should they in the workplace? Literally to exclude women, which is not okay. If you think it's a joke, you're literally a part of my problems and opposed to my success. I am not stupid, I watch comedy, and I can tell the difference between a joke and a sexist jerk. If it was just an unfunny …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:17 AM
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this is why no one takes feminism seriously anymore. None of these seem worthy of “batting an eye”. If some women are so dismayed by someone talking about their dicks they don’t have the emotional constitution to leave their own bedrooms, let alone handle actual problems. Woooow. Do women talk about their periods or something in the workspace in front of you every other sentence? No, because women have respect. Men need to have professional respect for women, too. And everyone should be able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:53 AM
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I don't even know what you mean by this. Are you saying they don't care about having sex as long as they have their money? I'm saying that investing time or having sex won't open up most men to feeling like a loser when the girl leaves. For men, it is only investing money that they would really regret in the event of being tossed aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:32 PM
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I would feel insulted, too, but probably not on the same level. For me, it would be just about the missing part of sex and not about his desire and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:26 PM
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Please just let me live this down already...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:22 PM
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Good God... EDIT EDIT EDIT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:20 PM
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Men compare it in the context of how other men were treated and how they are treated. I can see that from a logical standpoint, but I never compared myself to my husband's past. I also never took sex as the main factor determining how I was being treated. Men and women are different in these ways, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:18 PM
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Pass lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:17 PM
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I used money so that it can be seen from YOUR perspective, not because of women's priorities, for the record. Men feel like they lose out when they invest financially, and women feel like losers when they are used for sex. Use a man for sex, and he possibly feels like a stud, at least for many of the men here but not my husband. They don't really even care about their time as long as they have sex, only their money. It was an analogy I saw somewhere else on here before, but that's why it suddenl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:17 PM
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A man wants to be the most sexually desirable partner a woman has been with. If he's not, then she should find someone else who is and marry him. Okay this is fine. A woman can desire a man and a still wait, just like I'm sure you have waited before. Waiting does not equate to not being sexually attractive. Where did you get that from? Not wanting to wait equates to being eager.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:05 PM
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I don't have different standards when it comes to lust and love. My husband was my only partner. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't like hookups ever, or the only one who expects a long term partner to be desirable. Humans are capable of self-restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:00 PM
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I think I've heard it put this way. If you paid down another woman's debts and she cheated on you then ran off, you probably wouldn't pay down the next woman's debts quickly. Should she be offended that you offered another woman more than you are offering her for less in return? Just a different perspective here. I just think women should not have early sex no.matter what the circumstances, so I agree with you there, but one mistake from someone's past doesn't change your ability to be patient a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:56 PM
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I've never heard "husband material" in the sense you are describing. Why marry a man who isn't as great as others? "Wow he is such a keeper right there, make him your husband!" is never actually said between women about a man who is just a safe bet. I've never done hookups, though, so I don't get it at all to tell you the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:49 PM
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Level of porn usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:41 PM
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A man who is referred to as "husband material," for me, usually means a man who clearly demonstrates that he is stable in life and caring for his one partner. This is only an insult for people who don't believe in living that kind of life. To me, I don't understand why saying that you want your partner around forever could ever be an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:36 PM
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After the first however many people that you romantically engage with, you'll get better at deciding the type of girl you should try for. Dates usually is a step between friend and girlfriend, so thats definitely something you should be considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 09:13 PM
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I thought that people only did that in high school? WHOA. You were absolutely wrong. You don't assume a relationship on the first date. You can even even date a woman you don't know very well in goped of getting to know her. Is it effort? Yeah, probably only do it with women who seem really cool and beautiful. You definitely have to define a relationship in adult years as well. I thought that people only did that in high school? And I do feel like it's a lot of effor especially from a mens side …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:45 PM
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government assistance - when it was gendered at all - was devoted to women's issues. Women's shelters, charities, grants and loans, domestic violence shelters for men didn't even exist until 2-3 years ago current time. You have no idea how deep the shit channel men swim through really is. There is a lot I was unaware of. I did see your sources on behavior and academic discrimination, by the way. I'll with that fact that men who have problems have a hard time getting help. You make great points a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:44 PM
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Studies on men who have sexist beliefs? Really? I would never touch one, at least I hope I didn't, especially because I married my one. Wow, that's crazy, but easily explained by the fact that an equally successful non-sexist man will happily choose of his own accord to keep around one partner instead of racking up lays.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:53 PM
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Yeah, that's useful information. Thank you. This was posted on Twitter? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:46 PM
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Not going to lie at all, he's looking good for 59! I mean, it definitely shows, but not as harshly as it does for many. 28 and 59, though? 31 year gap? Little bit much, and I'm not even talking about looks here! I'm talking about a life stage gap here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/08/20 06:45 PM
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Genetics is only one factor. A sexist, dirty man will still get nowhere even if he has great genes. Neither will a rude woman, probably. Hugh Heffner had sex even when he looked gross. There are other factors to think about in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:37 PM
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Occupy Wallstreet, a protest movement about a decade ago regarding Citizens United and the Wall Street bailout. Among other things, like abusive banking practices, PACs and SuperPACs and their abuses, etcetera. I might have mentioned that in the comment you replied to. Maybe. Uhh, I thought these were protest gatherings on specific issues, not formal organizations, but this does explain why women were wanting to add more about the female perspective. It's a relevant part of the poverty experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:34 PM
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But really, like I said above, all that takes a back seat to the earnings gap. And associated laws and customs that increasingly imbalance our nation in favor of a tiny minority, at the literal expense of everyone else, a tide that's been rising since Reagan. It's obscene. Yeah, very fair point. I've always thought this myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:27 PM
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We don't talk about how bias in the courts prevents women from being tried and convicted on equal levels as men. I'm doing a disservice? Fuck you, for failing to acknowledge a reality. That's the disservice. I'm not failing to acknowledge a reality, but when you actually fix your language to name the real problem rather than "MEN AREN'T ALLOWED," yes you have arrived at something I can acknowledge. I'm no expert on rape laws, but I'm sort of inhernetly assuming that it's a lot more difficult dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:26 PM
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Everybody here is acting like being in a realationship is some impossible task that only chosen few achieve after working for years on end. Uhh, being in a GOOD relationship is quite a large task. Early 20's is still super young, late 20's almost getting to the point where you should probably have it figured out. I just don't believe it should take so much effort. I have just wanted to know how to move onward from just talking. Well, you have to ask women out on a date until.one says yes... I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:18 PM
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ignore violent crimes or laugh when you punch a man hard enough to make him bleed. Okay, I literally had to take a woman to a court date for slapping a man in the last month. She was laughed at (as if she was crazy, not as if she was within her rights), yeah, but she is still being punished. Sorry, I can't access your twitter link, but a description of laughing isn't exactly causing me to see a systematic problem here. Behaviorally: Where girls are truly given a pass, I can understand this being…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:13 PM
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The advice you got probably isn't completely made up or counterproductive. Some other commenters made some great points. Maybe their advice assumed that you have a different goal than you really do. Maybe their advice works differently than how you used it. Maybe their advice works in the way you are using it, but over a longer period of time. If you "wanted a relarionship" and only tried new things for a couple of months before writing those tactics off, I think you're probably trying to rush t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:36 PM
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Many of our best organizers and speakers were men. They started getting shouted down, literally shouted down, because these women believed there weren't enough "female voices" - even though women were predominant in many of these groups and were also organizers and participants. Umm, Press X to doubt. Men shout down women much more often in my experience, and women are judged more harshly for speaking up. You make claim to have reasons for judging these women as loud, obnoxious, and unnecessary,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:21 PM
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Men are at a distadvatage at work and in education? What in the world are you on about? Men literally joked around about their own pp's in lab courses that I took, and no one batted an eye. Men interrupted me in the middle of speaking presentations, and no one batted an eye. Were you ever sent to an on office because your shorts were "too short"? Idk what field you're in, but I'm pretty sure STEM wouldn't be male dominated if men were truly punished in their grades for being men. Women would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:27 PM
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TL;DR Men behaving like sexist jerks all the way through university pinkpilled me. I grew up in a suburban bubble. My mother wasn't pinkpilled, and a lot of the issues women faced were ignored in my house. We had the white picket fence, and my mother worked to boot. Things were not perfect for my mom, but she tried really hard to be stoic and positive. I had no idea how difficult that must have been for her until I grew up. Looking back on it, I did have a few little boys behaving in a sexist wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 04:20 PM
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she lacks that raw, feral attraction. Unscientific and I true in my experience. Raw impulse doesn’t translate to action for griwn adults, and beinf a husband is a huge compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:37 AM
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The body is all very true. Interesting how you basically define alpha as "all around high vakue man." Anytime a guy seemed really attractive and also had relationship value (we are talking all around high value man), I used to consciously think "No, slow it down! Don't let your lady parts run the show, this could be the one." The only women who don't have these defenses are either immature/sheltered (doesn't know what she wants, doesn't know the risks of early sex), impulsive, or not looking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:35 AM
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Haha nasty. No wonder I was never into that guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 03:20 AM
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Also, even if you are a "successful chad" in some instances, please sqeep your place every now akd then with and without having company.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 01:28 AM
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Never had a Chad. Only my husband, who is surely handsome but he does clean up after himself. It's not even a huge issue because we don't have children. He just maintains a basic adult level of cleanliness and we are all good. We live together; which is why it matters most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:57 AM
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I am a relatovely newly wed person, and I wish I could give this 10000 updoots
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:36 PM
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...... it means lower libido relative to one's partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:35 PM
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Especially since Im pretty sure that the hotter women are those on with the men bread winning couples Now THAT is just offensive. Beautiful women can be successful in their own rite. Even in the cases where you ARE correct, men choose the hotter women for that very reason. If I was a man like that, I would prefer to be able to make that choice without an internet stranger chiming in with his opinion of my lot in life. I'm absolutely sure it sometimes doesn't turn out for the best. I'll agree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:35 PM
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Holy crap... that's crazy. I'd love to see new studies, too. Anyway, a man who doesnt clean up after himself is still a no-go for me. My husband does more chores than many, and he is the LL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:08 PM
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The entire 70% of men aren't way out-earning their parnters. As I understood it, 20% of sutuations are where earning is almost equal. The 50% of truly higher earning men did have a greater average disparity than the 30% of higher earning women, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:06 PM
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Pretty much everyone wants quality sex, stability, loyalty, companionship, and respect. Woman also want quality socializing time and romance whereas men tend to prefer quiet time and peace. Some couples also don't think exactly the same way about money/chores, which is naturally an issue when you share finances and a household. This particular issue can be dealt with by having a verbal agreement if housework and how finances are handled. Equal say/compromise is the name of the game on housework …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:00 PM
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Very true, updoot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:49 PM
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And her monetary investment on those assets was in most cases, not 50/50. Again, 50% of women are earning darn near equal to or more than their partners now. If you want a SAHM, her investment matters too even if it isn't monetary. This is not to argue that the laws and practices may not need an update. Men should be having 50/50 custody way more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:49 PM
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Child support is a thing regardless of marriage. I thought division of assets was 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:42 PM
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I have never branch swung. My shortest time between relationships was a year and a half. I "moved on" and wrote a past guy off a lot quicker than choosing another option, but I still wasn't ready to commit again, and it wasn't was because I was having other fun. It is because I was happy being single and very unhappy with a lot of the options that presented themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:05 PM
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some women are into skinny and even fatter guys. Yes, I kind of like skinny guys. Dread and negging do not work on me, and neither does sexual preselection. If you are flaunting another woman, she can have you. Reducing to commit up front is an attraction killer. I actually ended things with a guy when he told me he is "not the boyfriend type." TRP men say that all women lose attraction for "beta" qualities, but I lost attraction when he showed that lack of "beta" qualities. Beta qualities don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:59 PM
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Problem is that modern marriage offers no life long commitment. Women are actively rewarded for breaking off the commitment with money and gifts. Current marriage isn't a compromise for women, it directly serves their imperative. Alimony going to women is true for probably less than a 50% subset of divorces. Alimony stats are very hard to find, but I can quoute that 50% of married women are noe earning with equal or greater power to their husbands, and that probably helps get a picture of the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:52 PM
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Speaking for him eh? Good, good keep it up. He literally loves with me. We talk all the time. The words came out of his mouth. Look I can spend the next few hours conversing with a cultist slave driver that treats her man worse than a slave but I won't. You can go ahead and take him for all he has to offers. Lets hope he doesn't wisen up and leave you, would suck for you to lose such a good slave. Haha wow nice asumptions okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:28 PM
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Women: For those that do, or have done this, wtf is going through your heads, first of all? Never been me Is branch-swinging the preferred method of finding a new relationship? No. One time I waited 3.5 years to date again and my rebound lasted only 2 weeks! True story. The ones right after someone long-term tend to not work. People haven't regained their sense of self yet, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:19 AM
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How is "monogomy is a compromise" anything other than an invincible and oversexed teenager mindset? I watched my father take care of my dying mother. Even before this somber reminder if mortality, I realized that consistent monogomous companionship is a gift that keeps giving more with time and age. First it gives just consistent sex, then maybe a family, then a retirement companion, and eventually an opportunity to share your final wishes. One day, my husband and I will grow old together. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:06 AM
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Yet you follow that cult. Imagine if you met a KKK member and they said they liked black people, its quite like that. No, it's not. I actuallt have a pickmeisha flair and I still have contributed to FDS. Did black people participate with the KKK? No. Your point is just false. When those ideas are core ideas followed by your cult, yeah it is. Even if the ideas were shared, this is not the most efficient or fair way to have a discussion. The mod herself isnt involved, and I would be uncomfortable …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:48 AM
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Ah yes, typical. With women all insults are: 1)Small dick 2)No relationship 3)Can't satisfy a woman You insulted my rlationship. I went back in the same area based on assuming you acting like a typical thirsty and unsuccessful TRP cult member. Cool, isn't it? It has nothing to do with being a typical woman, but your need to stereotype is obvious. Says the bitch that keeps writing based on her angry, keep talking. Tells quite a lot about you. I am literally matching you here. I fired back at you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:11 AM
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Uh yeah, because you brought it up? I never said anything relating to FDS up until just now, and you're using a sidebar quote to judge ME! I'm not a mod, so you're really protecting onto me an entire forum that is made up of many different people. I'm an individual and not a member of a cult, thank you. You saying I'm a cult member does not make it so. It will do no good to pretend to debate me using ideas quited from SOMEONE ELSE. I never claimed to agree with all of FDS, not have I discussed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:45 AM
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I didn't bring FDS into this. You did! Interesting you should say this, so its perfectly fine for him to throw away whatever dignity he has for some woman's validation but women should never do this? Hm.. I'm starting to realize what kind of relationship you and your husband have, lets hope you aren't treating him too poorly though, poor bastard. I think a man should go after the woman he loves. I think a man should not love a woman who allows him to tarnish his dignity. What is so hard to under…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:33 AM
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Fair. I didn't bring FDS in, however. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:12 AM
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I covered some of the possibilities that OP wouldn't he responsible for. However, if this has happened with multuple women, OP might also be partially responsible. I comoletely agree that OP is also free to dump someone for not appreciating him. Adults are are, somewhat, responsible for managing their own attractions and traumas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:11 AM
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Actually, you know what, you're a real jerk. What if I wasn't happily married? What if I actually DID struggle with self-esteem, and I had been working so hard to get myself to a place where I realized my worth? What if some other woman reads that and actually allows you to get inside your head? Your behavior is not okay. It's not okay for you to tell people to value themselves less. Quit dragging other people down into your misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:04 PM
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"Being wanted is important to me while in a relationship, as it is to everybody." "I do not, however, hang my self esteem on relationships or male desire. Men shouldn't do that either." And this was all from my original reply, advocating for a healthy and mutually beneficial view of relationships. WTF more do I have to explain??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:47 PM
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I tell you what I noticed, I noticed that you sure didn't reply directly to me. At me next time, hoemboy. 1) I never said I was the prize, either, so why would I respond to some crap an internet stranger comes up with to "put me in my place" and knock me down a peg? I wasn't being overconfident in the first place. I have nothing to prove, and I won't bend over backwards to say I don't have value. 2) I married over a year before I ever saw the FDS subreddit. My husband knows my value to him, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:42 PM
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I mean, I do love him, but I'm not going to be lied to and used myself just to make him feel like he is valied for his being. I deserve the truth about what goes on in my own home. I don't need him to bend to my desires and give until he can give no more, but I do need him to tell me the truth. He would ask the same of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:27 PM
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His LL, his spending habits (literally never on me even for takeout, and unfortunately I tied my funds to his for the quarantine period), and the fact that he even tried hiding the thing from me. But then again, he seems really insecure at times knowing that I have actual boundaries. Idk. Ironically, like many of the men on PPD, he seems to take having boundary as a lack of care/attraction. Perhaps this is why he thought hiding the thing would be not a big deal. Spoiler alert: it was a big deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:15 PM
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It's new, and things can change. So far, he is the one getting too comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:11 PM
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It's new, and things can change. So far, he is the one getting too comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:11 PM
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It's new, and things can change. So far, he is the one getting too comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:10 PM
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It's new, and things can change. So far, he is the one getting too comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:10 PM
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My sex life is unique, apparently. I literally have never had an attraction defecit. He has a much more LL than me. Kinda worries me at times, but worrying never helped anyone. Less respectful? Wonder what you mean by that. Last time my man tried to hide something from me, I started to walk out the door without a word. Being with a man who sometimes DNGAF has taught me that sometimes walking away without a word is the most respectful and best thing you can do. It's not always easy to keep from s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:30 PM
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rationalize it being okay to tell men to change everything about themselves in order to be more attractive to women I never told men to change, nor did I say it's okay to tell them that. This wasn't my argument. Women were asked a a question on how we personally would react. Honestly, my answer was a pretty non judgmental one! I didn't put expectations on men to change. How dare a man not be attracted to a fat woman! Lol I never put this expectation on men. Let's be clear on what I said and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:36 PM
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In a healthy relationship, BOTH partners have a good set of enforced boundaries. It is one just one side, and it's not caring less my comparison. It actually has very little to do with "caring" about the person if you just denand to be treated with respect and equality. You can care about them and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:24 PM
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There are so many people to love and experiences to have, to be chained to a life of routine and mediocrity sounds awful. Life is an amazing, beautiful thing. This is a contradictory set of statements, which honestly speaks to your personal biases. If relationship life is so amazing and beautiful, how could it be chained, routine, and mediocre? There are some people to love, and with love comes reaponsibility. It is not healthy or natural to take on responsibility for multiple partners when one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:10 PM
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Would you feel like you were the winner because they suddenly paid you attention? Men are not the prize. I'll feel good that I can tie my shoes easier and stuff. I won't feel good about male attention. But what about the group of guys who initially acted like you were invisible at best and called you "shemue the whale" at worst (if not worst still)? There is a HUGE difference between these 2! The guy who called names would always be a piece of crap in my eyes. The guy who ignored me? Most likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:23 PM
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Yes, it's a large misconception. Individuals come in many varieties with many different desires. No set of imperatives is so overwhelmingly common that is is acceptable to make assumptions based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:08 PM
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me: "I would only date after making sure I was physically, emotionally, and financially fit" That is NOT what was said. What was said that, if he wasn't puned after as a member of the elite top 2p%, he wouldnt date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:05 PM
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Oh yes, I definitely hear you. LVM are not even friends, let alone amazing boyfriends. The good relationship comes first before offering any favors. I truly hope you get the good relationship you want in your life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/07/20 05:58 AM
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Offered to pick him up from the train station so he wouldn’t have to walk in the cold to get to my place I realize that you weren't dating a HVM, but in my opinion this is common courtesy in a relationship with HVM if his car was in the garage or he rode on the train for 2+ hours just to get to you. I realize that may not have been your situation, but I'm saying it's not always embarrassing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/07/20 05:51 AM
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Most rich and powerful people are too busy, and their comments are restricted to more open and utilitarian social medias. Most, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:20 AM
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Uhh... who said I was talking about casual.sex in the second part of my comment? I... nevermind. You're right, we are obviously not discussing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:18 AM
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Ooh ooh, I have my mind made up! I can answer this one! No man is deserving of sex outside a committed relarionship with me. Average men are also doing fine once they step into their groove, as women have to find their footing in adulthood as well. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:10 AM
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.... so, if women aren't chasing you, you won't date at all? No offense, oiay actually yes offense, how is that mentality not supposed to be absolutely terrifying to all other women? I would never date a man with that type of ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:07 AM
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how hot they used to look (6 on a good day) LOL uhhh, is this supposed to not reek of personal issues? No, I don't know the type of woman you're talking about! I know my cousins- single, middle aged, divorced mothers who are probably still hotter than you. 6 at minimum today, if you're going to rate. They don't complain. They date, and one of them even found an amazing steady boyfriend with a full head of dark hair and a fit body. He looks objectively better than her ex husband who was always of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:01 AM
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Interesting claim, but I'm afraid not, not for my age group anymore. I have some work to do. It can easily be argued that I have a lower libido than you. Being sexless doesn't bother me to the point where I would so much as accept a "home date" offer from a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:51 AM
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Your sex life is your business. I never had my husband complain. Women don't always sexually want a "better man"- that's utter bull crap. Most men that are in relationships, though, are at least considered "not worse" than the woman. This works fine for a lot of people. A lot of people don't even know about intentional dread, and they are fine with their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:42 AM
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All faiir points. I think I see where you're coming from. It's almost just like you're not ready to settle down yet because you want to have fun with a lot of different people, and that's entirely up to you. One cutie, done with her workout, got her stuff and positioned herself momentarily just inside of that range where a guy knows it's safe to say hi. If this is what you want, there is only one way to get it out of your system. Go for it! never let 1 woman have control over your sex life The w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:36 AM
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Not if she's smart and wants a LTR. No guy keeps the girl who he is way better than, unless it's so suck time and effort from her. The girl you're talking about is in a LTR. LTR's are for fairly even matched people who both actually want to be with each other, but usually the man will do the initiating and a bit of romancing. The "chase" is only in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:18 AM
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I'm frankly uncomfortable that I might be being used as a pawn by opting out of that market. Based My failure to post FR's over on TRP is mostly related to laziness and/or fear/disgust about having sex with women who are actively having sex with other guys. It's the biggest hurdle I face. Wait wait wait... you'd... post about it? Really? Why? Do you think you'd confirm, deny, or add to theories based on just having sex? I relate hard to the fear/disgust. I wouldn't understand avoiding exclusivit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:40 PM
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Ten levels of dread? Getting a woman to chase you? It is never a woman's job to chase a man. Sure women will give interest if you're not being a dreadful player, but to put it like that is so ridiculously dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:30 PM
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Interesting take. I feel like you can't guarantee that you wouldn't find a lovely childfree woman who fits in with your lifestyle on a more permanent basis, but that's only if you're open to it. I think I remember hearing something about you looking for younger women, so rhat doesn't help your case. The woman my dad found is a grandmother, so her children are fully grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:59 PM
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Lean too far in one direction or the other and your wife/girlfriend starts to lose attraction and drift away from you. This all deoends on how you define and look at things. Yes, you will always be primarily motivated by one thing in an instant or in a decision: your own success as a man, or the success as a family member. Will this need to be adjusted over time? Yes. In the end, though, both motivations are always there and they are always important. Life isn't compartmentalized. You'll be havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:55 PM
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Married, extremely elite, and somehow on Reddit arguing to me that Alpha Bucks doesn't exist? Love to hear an explanation for all that. Maybe you married a rich woman. I certainly hope you did. Maybe you're not the sole provider, but you're certainly no detriment, and that's how it should be ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:51 PM
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Hahahahahaha eww
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:49 PM
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Hahaha... sure you know someone who is close friends with the president. Sure someone treats the president like a little bitch. Can you even imagine what would have to happen to push a person in that situation to behave that way? And he always was complimentary to her, which I doubt would happen in such a case. This seems unlikely, but it's only one example anyway. I've seen it happen IRL. I've seen a cheating, misogynistic jerk turn into a nursemaid for his sick wife. People are complex creatur…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:44 PM
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Oh, also, you don't have to do anyone. No one asked you to, but I gave you an explanation about what msot men get out of dating with sex. I don't think making a trade for something you enjoy can be called worship. Especially seeing as how casual dating is usually much cheaper than actual going rates for paid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:31 PM
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Most men don't worship heterosexual sex, but most men do very much enjoy it- disappointment about lack of enjoyment becomes especially apparent after a long dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:28 PM
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That doesn't make me an alpha, but it's an alpha strategy. I've heard people compare TRP to a "toolbox," where men can take what is useful and leave the rest. This is the only possible way that any strategy or philosophy is useful and healthy. However, I definitely consider that TRP in particular has a lot of things that really need be be left out of most people's lives. I'd rather be volcel than to be a woman's beta, i.e., a kept man. Is this true of all circumstances, or just based on the dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:27 PM
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We view the whore/slut through a lens of disgust This is entirely untrue. Men literally get off to porn images of whore things. It's not an attraction thing, it's a thing that kicks in only when you consider the possibility of an LTR. "High n count women are fine for ONS, but not LTR." I hear this all over this sub by TRP men. Let's not forget that. Casual sex is just about fun for both men and women, big surprise surprise. Big whoop. This doesn't mean that LTR's can't also be plenty fun. I agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:22 PM
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So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:13 PM
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one cannot be both a BB and an AF simultaneously Barack Obama. Wealth, power, status, decently attractive dpeending on what you like, never had a cheating scandal, married with kids. Even George W Bush in his younger years. Prince Harry. This is just to name a few well know examples off the top of my head. It is definitely possible to be a strong, self-respecting, masculine man while providing for and protecting your family. I would argue it's the easiest/most effective way. Throwing women aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:07 PM
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This comment is so idiotic, you should stick to lurking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:13 PM
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Tell it to someone who didn't marry a pizza delivery man. Stats about women initiating divorce, which must be this vague stuff you're gesturing toward, are MUCH more complicated than "a little bump." Are you divorced, or even married or LTR'd?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:29 PM
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That statement is something said at Alcoholics or Narcotics anonymous, and has probably been said by a lot of female addics, too. This is not a statement made by your hardworking man who needs to collect unemployment for a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:20 PM
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LOL I love the lack of replies to this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:16 PM
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Women want: A healthy adult relationship AND wealth and status. Most poor men who is happy without his wealth and status have met poor women who have learned to live with less. Not every cashier joins a sugar dating site, and you know it. Most wealthy men date satisfied, wealthy, and educated women. Couples who are mismatched in wealth and status are rare. Celebrities date other celebrities. What women are you meeting that you think this mismatch applies to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:21 PM
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Sex is a normal part of a healthy relationship. ... and being able to function as a self-sustaining family unit is not a normal part of a healthy relationship? Humor and social skills are not a normal part of a healthy relationship? This "actual utility" in relationship is shown in the fact that women STILL do more housework than men, even when they are working jobs in this demanding economy. Women want to offer their pussy, that they got for nothing, in return for actual utility from men. As a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:13 PM
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Overrated until you're not getting any, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:04 PM
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I'd start getting a little perturbed even at the third time of being asked- epsecially if I hadn't been intimate with the guy before. Of course, I'm also the type to be clear that "This is my final answer, and I will not repeat myself. If I am asked again, I will simply find my own way home." Why is there a need to be pushy at all? I think planning a romantic sleepover ahead of time with the woman's enthusiastic consent is the best way to go for a first time together. Let her pack an overnight b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:43 PM
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Did I not cover some of those things in 2 and 4? I'm mostly ng to bring up constructive things, since OP 8s trying to work on this issue he apparently had with multiple women, I admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:51 PM
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sucked me off for 20 seconds and told me they were tired Uhhh... do you think they felt pressured? Why would they do that if they didn't want to? And why are you so much in need of that, specifically? Do you EVER reciprocate, or at least use your hands? Usually something like that is necessary. Don't answer, at least not to me, think for yourself internally. Idk, I always gas my husband up with sweet (or dirty) nothings, at least. And he'll straight up ask my to touch him exactly where he wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:19 AM
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First of all, both of these points are untrue. Women are not innately more valuable, and women's roles are not less necessary. Both gender roles are important. Only a fraction of men are needed to build roads and stuff, though. Even a significant portion of women can do that with modern backhoes and other equipment. It takes a whole village of women to nurture the sick and raise the babies, even with modern advents. It is very necessary that the sick and young receive 24/7 human care, despite ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:59 AM
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Whats your definition of starfish? Are you expecting loud and abrasive screams? Are you expecting acts you know at least come with some discomfort? If so, yoir expectations are off. Since you have this experience commonly with multiple women, and since I certainly gope you're only bedding women who enthusiastically consent, this is a potential reason. Doggy style actually takes a lot of effort to brace for impact. Sure, it looks like she's not doing much, but she's using her muscles more than yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:32 AM
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I had an unfortunately long stint of unemployment years back, I still had an answer when people asked me what I did for a living. Even when the job hunt was exasperating I could say what the fuck I did for work. I'm not advocating for using a dating app for networking, but if anyone cannot afford to burn bridges, it is the unempoyed. If anyone cannot afford to be uncomfortable discussing their work skills, it is the unemployed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/07/20 10:31 PM
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Never did online dating, but I only ever had to carry the conversation in 3 types of situations. 1) the guy really wasn't interested 2) the guy was trying to not be pushy until I finally showed interest back 3) the guy wasn't big on texting, he would rather call or meet up Given your situation, I do have some advice. Start a few short and sweet conversations over the span of a few days, and then ask to move to a phone call. If she keeps making these steps difficult, next her. You don't have to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:03 PM
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I have one very short-lived ex from high school who basically broke up with me because we weren't looking for the same things (read: I wasn't easy, but he found someone who was). We were in the same elective and had the same friends/interests, so we stayed friendly. Stopping communication would have made it seem like I was bothered that he found someone else. Well, I wasn't bothered. I ended whatever slight romantic attachment I had to the ex, I made more friends, and I said yes to another boyfr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/07/20 03:13 PM
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Plenty of non-arbitray reason you could get dumped; though, tbh. It happens to us all. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 03:40 AM
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"It was a really spontaneous thing and just felt right to propose!" ... really? So, did this other woman get a ring? Do you not realize that marriage has long term consequences, like medical power of attorney, mingled assets, and not being to marry your other girlfriend? This is what you call a spontaneous decision?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/20 02:22 PM
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When given the opportunity to choose any man to date without judgement, women ignore 90% of men. Fantasy land... this literally never happens. If you are here to learn how to make the best of your reality, these hypotheticals won't be helpful to you. I bet, given the opportunity, you would choose only Margot Robbie level women, too. Does this affect you in real life? No. Or, at least I want to say so, but you have categorized any woman who treated you right as unattractive, so unrealostic standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:03 PM
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Hahahahhahaha.... what?!?! No. LDR's fail because you have to see and touch a person to connect with them on a relationship level. I'm literally convinced that you've never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 01:00 PM
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I know a handful of very high n-count men. Lol for women high N is probably considered 10, but for men you only want to talk about VERY high n count. Cool double standard. There are probably many men in the high but not very high range, with a n count of 30 to 40 in their early 30's maybe I don't know, who have to be judged one way or another. These men are probably more common than your male model acquaintances. Online dating reveals women’s true intentions. When given the opportunity they only…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 12:56 PM
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Giving advice works only when people want it. It's not an imperfect man who gets avoided- it's a man that doesnt care to get the basics right who gets avoided. No grown adult needs to be told to ask out the woman he wants on a proper date, or to was his bum. Parents and society talk about these things enough. If a woman were to say something about these basic activities, it would be nagging. Nagging doesn't help- it only hurts. People don't usually come to the internet when their partner just ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 12:26 PM
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Not the original commenter, but tons of men have gone out looking for other women and failed before. Also, plenty of men can fake the first impression of "high vamue," only for thde mask to fall and women to flee later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:59 AM
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Because women who care about relationship value will just sit back and quietly observe, watching player types out themselves, so that women can next them and move onto other candidates. It's the men here who even continue to deal with people they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:15 AM
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Oh, this is a really good question, actually. My parents always tried to push me toward quality partners, especially to their own preferences. Their tactics ended up not working out at the time. I was at college where I found my mate. My parents encouraged me to go to college, but not to choose my mate. They never liked him because he grew up poor, and he made a few mistakes in courting me. I made mistakes, too. Anyway, now he's finally on the fast track to exceeding everyone's financial expecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:24 AM
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Well, feelings are just feelings, really. Can't fully explain why we feel what we feel. He exceeded all my expectations, we communicated effectively, and we had a lot of fun romantically. He was a really great listener. Eventually, we talked about the kind of life we wanted, and we came to an acceptable agreement for us both. After that, we were both incredibly determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:19 AM
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Monogamy is a self-impoaed box, with first lartner or afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:53 AM
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I actually did this, so I know it can work. I'd certainly rather not be intimate with someone who dropped me later, that's for sure. I don't think I really wonder "what if" any more than other people. I wonder very, very rarely. I'm glad we got married young because we can make all of these life altering decisions together. I prefer this life to coming in after he created children with someone else, or after he bought a low-rider truck and a timeshare. It has its downsides; though. Mostly, finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:48 AM
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Not original commenter, but same. I was raised to believe I should, and I met a quality partner early. Both are true. After having grown up in this relationship, I realize that the way I was raised wasn't all it was cracked up to be. If my partner wasn't a quality man, there is no way I'd stay put, even though he is my one and only partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:39 AM
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I, too, married my first partner. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:37 AM
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Wrinkled indebted hag neurotic wagie Karen response: "mUhsOgYniSt wAnTinG a homemaker servant!!!111!" Well I wouldn't go about calling you a misogynist just for wanting a homemaker, but to paint all working women as "neurotic hags" is definitely uncalled for and untrue. (i.e. youngest tightest hottest wettest most energetic pussy) You do realize that this woman will age no matter how hot she is, and so will you? Can't always get what you want, man. The key is not to switch up on her and devalue …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:42 PM
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Having dating as a support system/top priority is unattractive to a most potential mates. Interesting hobbies/passions are attractive to a lot of potential mates. For dating success, making dating a top priority early on is inadvisable. This is especially true if you are LTR minded. We're social animals. Friends or relationships are similar to eating in importance. Hobbies that are shared with others can easily provide an acceptable minimum support system for many people. Only some people are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:22 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:49 PM
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Desire to cheat? Really? That's absolutely not why I posted here. I'm not looking for a new relationship. I was gathering the ideas of this sub on the matter too see if it matched up to my previous experience. Since I clearly already married a man, does it really make sense that I would need to use an estimate for relationships in my own life? Does it not stand to reason that I already have a life experience to answer those questions on my own? You have made an illogical assumption. I am not loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:11 AM
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Excellent! You deserve so much better treatment <3
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/07/20 05:56 AM
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1- my husband F26 3 LTR's (1 over 6 months, 2 over a year). There were other interested friends I had who stuck around for over a year, but no intimacy or formal relationship. Extrovert. Satisfaction of 8/10. I mean, history always has some flaws. I don't want to bare all of that on the internet. I don't actually wish I did more or less, though. Very open and agreeable. As a woman, my warmth and openness are a major reason why letting strangers or incompatible people get too close is dangerous. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:23 AM
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Fair point. Potential is only positively useful as far as it is being made a reality. Sometimes it's useful to look at what opportunities people are squandering, though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/07/20 03:45 AM
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LOL the highest value men in history as defined by who? There is a reason that part of history has ended. Women have more subjective say is how a man's value is defined for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:02 AM
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Interesting take. Why would someone want to end their sexual adventures for a good chunk of their life, though? I never understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:45 AM
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You made a good point that marketplace value can change. I still see a greater percentage than 20% of men at the time putting themselves out there with success. Maybe the numbers are skewed at my age because men are younger and more virile?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:24 PM
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Well, the why certainly did expand on what you meant, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:17 PM
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The masses aren't homeless, are they? A massive (planned) strike or unionization would help, if survival could be met in the meantime, for men and women alike. There are things that can be done, but it requires a lot more cunning than just dropping out of the system entirely. That route leads to starvation and homelessness, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:15 PM
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Woah pump the brakes. Yes, Queen, I am super glad that you are having this difficult discussion which matters to you. His initial words were one thing, and you got a straight answer to keep him accountable. This is a great first step. Don't forget the even greater clarity that happened afterward, though, when he basically asked for a hookup. You said no. Don't let him keep texting you. Seeing him around is one thing, but block and delete, please. He clearly wants something that you are opposed t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 11:10 PM
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The why absolutely does not matter in reference to what I was discussing. Even if it did, calling monogamy a prison was clearly out of left field. Divorce talk was out id left field. I was very clearly even talking about your husband What did I do to you, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:06 PM
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Women don't like working. We are more grateful like the start of this thread pointed out, sure. Maybe we should be fighting for change and economic equality in addition to just productive jobs. We still need to work, though. What other options is there? Breastfeeding newborns and being a housewife is not a a viable alternative. Housing is far too expensive, and men are already bitching about alimony and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:03 PM
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Because perhaps financially independent women are a significant part of the demographic that decides the sexual marketplace holds nothing of substantial value for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:31 PM
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It would have been sufficient to say that marketplace rankings can change with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:30 PM
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I really have to explain why it is "prostitution" for women to be working on something outside the home, but not for a man? I have to explain that not every woman has a newborn baby to nurse at all times, and even if she did there are MANY valid reasons for not doing so that are not for profit? I have to explain that people with full time jobs can still get busy? That working women often take off work early to take care of their families? That women can have skills other than a "whiff of pussy"?…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:27 PM
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Exactly, women are dependent in relationships. For women who prefer independence smd singledom to that, you have the big picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:23 PM
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That says it all, I guess. There are avenues for feeling good that don't correlate to serious problems in life. The avoidable ones are, well, avoidable. Not paranoid to protect oneself when it's just as easy to do so. Swim BEFORE the ice cream. Look lonfer at your SO. But hey, I'm getting a bit tired of this sub for now. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:16 PM
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And if it was reality, I wouldn't have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:10 PM
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If a woman is slaving away late at night on a PowerPoint on market penetration instead of breastfeeding her kid or properly fucking her husband or maintaining the house, well, she's not literally a prostitute, but how far away from one is she really at the end of the day? WOW. And to think I have engaged with you on multiple occasions. So much for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:09 PM
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I explained my answer as to what women would choose, and i explained my choice. I didn't ask for some explanation of a rating for my husband and how his situation will get worse over time. To give me such responses is unhelpful at best, and even potentially harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:05 PM
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you're ignoring the bigger picture. Depends on perspective, I guess. For some women, independence is the BIGGEST part of her picture. What's your idea of the bigger picture, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:03 PM
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Well, there was a time I DID reject a man for having flirted with multiple women, so there's that. Paranoia might be the case if swimming in shark infested waters with a full belly or staring and fantasizing had necessary and positive results. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:59 PM
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Well, that shows a lack of critical thinking. No, it shows caution. That's the point, they never divorce or break up relationships because of stuff like that. I just said that I would, so don't say never to me of all people please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:51 PM
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Men peak, build themselves their monogamy prison, grow bored of it, decay, and then divorce or blithely settle for a life of roommateship and mediocrity....thereby opening the door for another man to rise into the 20% Cool cool cool cool cool
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:49 PM
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Also, women still expect money. Who tf told you this? Even if the requirements for men are going up, women's independence still helps explain why women would choose not to settle with many of the people in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:45 PM
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No hymen no diamond. Eh, if that's what you want and you get it, mire power to you! Comparing someone who had sex woth 2 men in the world to a town bike no one wants to marry makes you sound like you got issues, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:38 PM
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Huh... well, interesting take. You'd be right if you think 80% of men are never desired by at least a few women. Somehow I doubt this. It doesn't jive with my life experiences. I know he was insecure before because other wery few women wanted him and only for casual stuff. Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:29 PM
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Assuming that's true, without further research, are you about to eat ice cream and jump into the ocean? I'm not! They get mad but they don't actually do anything about it. As a man you shouldn't care much if the woman gets mad. Wow, you're really encouraging women to communicate openly and honestly. Don't say to me that women don't do anything about it when I'd literally divorce over it. If you want to go with your experience, that's great for you, but it will never apply to me or any man in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:26 PM
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the 80th percentile basically means average looking for women. I said attractive, not "immediately above average on first sight." We did not meet on apps. Is he my very top love forever? Absolutely. I'd place him above all men for me. Doesn't make him your version of a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:22 PM
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"low value men" which is a code for men attractive enough to have sex with but who don't want to offer commitment That is not what "low value man" means to FDS. Low value men can be ugly men, too. Check out roast-a-scrore for that. I married an attractive man, but probably no Chad. He's under 6 feet, he makes less than 6 figures for now, and he doesn't lift heavy except for practical purposes, but he's loyal. He is my only intimate partner ever. I can't speak for all women, but it's clear what m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:15 PM
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People don't get called cheaters for looking. Well, I've always looked down on it and this study sure helps. Women get mad at men for looking all the time. There is a whole meme about it. And you are assuming that the way you work on it is not looking. This is actually a killer point you make. I don't have studies to prove this one. Doesn't mean it's not a hypothesis, though. I just don't see why they shouldn't do it. I am genuinely shocked that this is your reaction to a whole study showing a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 09:06 PM
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You're asuming that being the "cheating type" is something that can't be worked on. I'm not sure that I agree. Is someone supposed to just keep looking so that they get called out? Is that what you advise? I think not. I feel like you're just assuming that people can't help it. Not sure if that's true. If it is, that's a whole other argument I'd probably require citations and serious research for. Not everything is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:46 PM
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Most realistic comment. I would love to see the real info, but based on this, pure conjecture. Can't really discuss anything with that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 08:42 PM
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Because it predicts bad behavior, whether due to underlying issues or not! How is this so difficult to understand? Whether or not you look is TOTALLY relevant if "oh, well people who do that are just astutely the cheating type."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:40 PM
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Masculine facial features and good hair for sure. I like a reasonable level of physical fitness. There is also the often under reported fact that people tend to be more attracted to other people who look more like their own families. While gross, I find this mostly true for me. Height is not a huge issue possibly because I am a major shawty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:26 PM
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You just answered your own question! That type of person is more likely to cheat, and therefore less likely to provide a lasting relationship. Either don't be the cheating type, or don't try to be in a LTR. None of this makes looking and fantasizing okay while in a realtionship. It makes it not good, whether due to underlying issues or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:22 PM
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I wholehesrtedly agree. My argument is that not looking is clearly better for LTR's, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:20 PM
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Looking (or being the type of person who looks) is less likely to be conducive to a relationship. If youre argument is "already going to cheat either way," then get out of the relationship. Don't look while in one would obviously be more recommended than looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:09 PM
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CAUSATION was never asked. A reason not to look at and fantasize about other people was asked. People can choose to stop looking too long, even if it comes "naturally." It just sounds like you're rationalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:02 PM
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Can I DM you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:01 PM
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Yeah? Do you want to be the one that's more likepy to cheat or don't you? It's still not good. I can't do the work of a relationship for you or make you want a relationship. No one can guarantee if you will cheat or not. All I can do is that looking too long makes it more likely, so that's obviously the opposite direction than the one that people who are in relationships should take. It's a reason not to fantasize or look to long. That was what was asked, and I provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 07:57 PM
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LOL that sounds like rationalization. Most women do it... can you cite a study on that? "Both reactions -- disengagement and devaluation [in looking at other potential partners] -- minimized the risk of infidelity and, consequently, were predictors of relationships with a higher likelihood of succeeding." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180212190946.htm Yes that's right. I just cited a study showing that even looking at or valuing a different potential mate for too long is bad for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 07:27 PM
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Before me, my husband knew 3 women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 05:55 PM
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"Whenever they feel like it" is situational dependent and very arguable. I've been here on this sub for quarantine pretty much, so a while I guess. I can't even find statistics on alimony. I would love to use stats to argue this point, but the data ain't there. I don't speak for all women. I speak for myself when I say I value marriage (not all relationships). I value my marriage, but I would end it if my husband decided to use and abuse me while ignoring my attempts to fix the situation. This d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 05:06 PM
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If you can find so much information without asking Reddit, what the heck are you on this sub for?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:41 PM
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I asked this sub because it was this sub where there were multiple posts relating to men not having their minds made up about a relationship. Trusting a woman's intentions? Wait what even? Your statement is very pointlessly gendered, and pointless in general. My intentions have no bearing to you whatsoever. There is nothing to trust. The discussion is a potentially useful discussion regardless of intentions. I feel like you just popped in here to say "don't trust women." Real nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:40 PM
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I'll concede that you've changed my view on the effects of society/media on people. It porbably has a lot more of an impact than I typically acknowledge. I'm glad you're zooming in on the personal responsibility, though, as it's a relevant factor here for sure. I did feel a bit angry when I saw the way things really worked. But that said, I do not blame society, I blame myself for buying into it. My anger was directed at myself. How, exactly, do things work? I'm sure there are issues, but I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:36 PM
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Okay, thanks, that's fair
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 04:09 PM
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Should a person base their self worth on the views of internet strangers? Fair enough. Jsut trying to understand what I view as a completely different and possibly self-contradictory viewpoint to my own. Beliefs are interchangable. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:08 PM
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"Spun" up haha yeah that's a good one. If I have an annoyed tone, yeah I'm annoyed with you. Easy or not, I haven't been this annoyed by a Redditor in a while. It's just you and very few others who don't know how to behave. I mean, really, you called my father a faggot. Like I said, do you literally think? Not every man is like you. Not every woman is lucky you're so easy. Nuance exists. Maybe you let that sink in, and I can see myself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:03 PM
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Influencing fleeting impulses or even purchases is one thing, but my core imperatives? That has to be thousands of years in the making, and a lot more obvious than BlackDog's bullcrap of "Oh, well it's clear to men! A light bulb will go off! Hurr hurr!" Influences are one thing. Complete brainwashing is another. Victims who experience Stockholm syndrome are not stupid, but modern men and women are hardly experiencing that level of stimulus from existing. Average modern adults have to take full r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:59 PM
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Realize, though, that I'm a woman. Redpill toolboxes or strategies aren't really tailored to me at all. I fully agree with you that most truths aren't universal, and people interpret things differently. I agree that different staregies are useful at different times. If TRP is used as a toolbox and not a set of universal judgments, you have a point. Check out BlackDog'z replies on this thread for an example of someone who is more black and white about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:43 PM
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I think stupid people can be brainwashed in both genders. I think society is fairly open minded these days, and I fel comfortable to pursue what I wanted for sure. I think anyone who doesn't is full of excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:36 PM
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Cool cognitive dissonance. Depends on the situation, I guess. Forgive me if I'm a bit short with you- I'm being annoyed in another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:25 PM
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Edit: other guy said women want relationships more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:23 PM
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That sucks that your dad is 60 years old and still acting like a blue pill faggot. Rude! Do you ever consider that maybe some people want different things than you do, even if they are also men? Do you literally ever think? Society has been brainwashing women into thinking that sex without commitment is a working strategy for them. It’s not. Maybe true, but if men don't even want relationships, why not use the hot ones for what they'll actually reliably stick around for and have them pay child s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:22 PM
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Can these messages be deleted? Do we have any idea where he got that she is "bored"? I'm just thinking this may not have been the first message. It's certainly weird of him if this was a first message. But still, even if he was creepy, why message back when you can block/unmatch?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 03:17 PM
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Haha very funny. My 60 year old dad begged to marry his new and FOURTH wife because "brainwashing." Whatever, dude. I pressure no man to be with me. Women don't initiate this crap for a reason. It's always been up to y'all. Even if you never wanted a relationship, it's your own problem if you behaved like you did. Just like women having casual sex without commitment is their own problem, right? What if I say society has been brainwashing women about that? You'll just tell me it's the FeMAle impe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:11 PM
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Once a couple is having sex, she's the one who is going to want the relationship more than him, because it's in men's nature to be polygynous. Wait a minute now. So women CAN pair bond and women DO value their relationships, then. Correct? Women initiate more divorces/breakups. I know I've at least seen the stat about divorces on this sub before. Men use this stat to say that most women can't "pair bond," or women are using men for money. Are you claiming that men are staying in these marriages …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:04 PM
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Riggght.. it couldn't possibly be that someone genuinely wants something different than you. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:56 PM
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where’s the rush? I don't rush. I'm efficient once I see what I want. Some point reasonable? I do that after we agree to be exclusive. Yes, and, for me, I expect exclusivity within 6 months at most. If either of us are still wanting to pursue other options at that point, that means we just aren't that into each other for sure. I find that I know people pretty well by then- people certainly didn't turn tables to cause me any real trouble after the fact. Maybe we’re spending the same amount of tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:46 PM
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Also, never forget that having to go this far out of your way to tell your partner to answer your phone calls is a major red flag.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 01:42 PM
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Don't forget, though, that one of his tweets plummeted his own stock value.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 01:38 PM
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I'm childfree, and I liked being single. I also like being married. I'm now married. I didn't have to give away my freedoms to marry my hudband, I'm still my own person. I'm still perfectly able to enjoy the things u did when I was single. I do miss having my own place I guess, since now we went all the way past marriage and living together, but I was already with him for years by that point so I did know I would enjoy being closer to him as well. you can’t know them as well as spending more tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 01:37 PM
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He has 6 kids with 2 different women I think, but whatever. Just because someone never changes doesn't mean they have potential. Just because someone has potential doesn't mean they will change. LVM waste their potential all the time, and they don't level up. That's not an issue of potential, just lack of caring/effort.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 01:25 PM
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It's explained in the body of my post. All of these apps guys are talking about "seeing where things go" with women that they're dating, and I wanted to see how long they expect their dates to wait around for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 01:23 PM
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HVM work on themselves and level up throughout all stages of adult life. LVM don't.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 01:22 PM
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That would explain it, honestly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 05:08 AM
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This couple could not be more different. I've said it before and I'll say it again probably: it's fun to clash, but without common ground there is no possible foundation for anything real. Did he not learn from 2 failed marriages and dating literally Amber Heard? LVM just don't learn. I'm sure he has potential, but never learning is the issue. And that's to say nothing of the fact that Elon's tweet was rather pointlessly inflammatory. What good did he think that would do?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 04:42 AM
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Exactly! From the very first (top left) image, I saw a problem. Women literally barely propose marriage ever.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/20 04:11 AM
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I mean, that's on you, but plenty if other men want LTR's. I respect your view that you are not one of these men. I'm sure you're perfectly capable of lviign a fulfilled single life. Good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:53 AM
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