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I don't think it's necessarily bragging so much as stating facts. Very often the assumption is that we don't do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:23 PM
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Then why do autistic girls experience more pressure to mask than boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:56 AM
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In this aspect, not at all. This is just something a lot of men seem to get completely wrong about women. We can be bitter and jealous about a lot of other things, and I'll own up to that all day. But I promise you that being bitter and jealous because "the men we want" are going after girls in their 20s, and thinking of ourselves as being in competition for the same pool of men is NOT. A. THING. It just doesn't work that way. Other women here have explained why, and I agree with them. But you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:47 PM
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You don't know what kind of men we want. It's not the same ones we wanted at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:00 AM
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I don't know any couples like that, but at least for celebrity couples, I don't really see men commenting on it. What I see online is women being creeped out and pointing out the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:36 PM
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As a single woman pushing 40, you have no clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:32 PM
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You literally did make this up lol. She explains why she calls them terrible in the same comment, and it's not for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:29 PM
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I've never seen that kind of moral judgment regarding a 41M / 29F age gap. I it's always when the woman is under 25
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:23 PM
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So you were just throwing around buzzwords without understanding. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:02 AM
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On a related note, I've never seen "autistic girls are forced from a young age to be better at masking than boys because society is less forgiving of their eccentricities and difficulties with socializing" being framed as a privilege the way the OP has done here. Like he genuinely sees himself as a victim for being less proficient at masking than autistic women because the bar was always lower for him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:00 AM
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Multiple dates, even!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:19 AM
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Still not seeing how that has anything to do with toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:03 AM
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It doesn't even take that much in a lot of cases. I recently learned that as many as 40% of homeless youths are LGBTQ (compared to 5-10% of their peers in the general population). Imagine abandoning your child to the world to fend for themselves because they're gay or trans and you think that's yucky
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:36 PM
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No one is "suggesting" you have sex with gay men. In fact, they're saying the opposite, that it's perfectly understandable that it's not a realistic sexual option for you, and that is the same extent to which thirsty rando men who would fuck anything that moves are not realistic options for us. Having sex with someone who you physically can not make yourself feel sexual arousal toward is a NET NEGATIVE compared to no sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:18 AM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:51 PM
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I once had a boyfriend roll his eyes and sneer, "here come the crocodile tears" when I broke down during a particularly toxic argument where he had been doing a lot of name-calling. I was ugly crying with tears streaming down my face, eyes puffy and red, wiping away snot, unable to speak without choking on my words and sounding like an idiot... so I'm honestly puzzled what he thought I had to gain by being as gross and unattractive as possible at that moment. I didn't feel manipulative, I felt l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:48 PM
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TIL disagreeing with an idea in a debate forum == "stifling honest discussion" to try and "fool" everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:51 PM
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I don't like the truth about what? I thought my reply was pretty measured and nuanced (and barely even mentioned gender), so I'm not sure where you got the impression I was in denial of anything. I'm someone who takes criticism seriously and uses it to improve myself because I'm very sensitive to it. Is that not basically what accountability is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:45 PM
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I don't think that sensitivity to criticism itself is either a good or a bad thing; I think how that sensitivity prompts you to react is what's important. If someone is highly sensitive to criticism and takes it on board to self-reflect and improve themselves, that's good. If they're highly sensitive to criticism and it only makes them triggered and defensive, that's bad. On the other side of the coin, if someone is completely unaffected by criticism and therefore never uses the opportunity to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:25 PM
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Stop spamming
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:03 AM
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Elvis Presley's music is still played today as well. So is Tupac Shakur's. If Elvis and Tupac had been dead for 175 years, you might have a basis for comparison there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:49 AM
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I was thinking the same thing as I was going through these responses. I hooked up a lot especially in my 20s, but I can't think of a single time I wasn't tipsy or drunk. And as you said, my hookup partners ran the gamut as far as how physically attractive I would have found them sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:10 AM
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The ones who are looking for short term don't really need to bother with a dating app to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:58 AM
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If one of them were fat, made less money, and had a shittier personality, wouldn't that mean their partner was equivalently thinner, made more money, and had a nicer personality? So for every lesbian/bi woman with "INSANELY low standards" who is dating down, her counterpart that she's dating has equally "INSANELY high standards" and is dating up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:58 PM
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☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:44 PM
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I don't have any hard data for you, but just chiming in to say that hasn't been my experience as a bi woman, either. I suspect what may be happening is that you're judging the female partners' attractiveness by straight male standards (traditionally feminine, petite, etc.) and assuming that just because you don't find them attractive, their partner must have really lowered their standards to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 08:14 PM
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I don't think that's what they meant by "average man". They're talking about average in terms of EQ, mentality around relationships, etc. You're talking about average in terms of SMV which is a different discussion entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 08:04 PM
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My response was to you, not to OP. What question did you ask here that I should have been answering? Point it out and I would love to answer it for you. Btw, what question was your original top-level comment answering? Need to be right Almost BNGO fellas So close I'm not trying to be right, just observing the hypocrisy. I actually find this fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:12 AM
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You can always take your own advice that you keep giving me in this thread, genius :) What is the point Of... pointing out weak logic on a debate thread? I'm more curious about what YOU think your point is in being here. It's not exactly like your original comment was answering any questions or contributing anything of value. I was even nice about engaging with it because we all say dumb things sometimes <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:45 AM
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"Free myself" from what? I'm not the one complaining or criticizing anyone, just replying to a comment to point something out I actually enjoy replying <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:57 AM
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?? I mean that trying to prove you're right is kind of a given in a debate. You are doing it here, too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:14 AM
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I can't think of a type of guy I'm less attracted to than "jocks" and "bad boys". It sounds like the type of cliché you'd see on Saved by the Bell
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:48 AM
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Tbf this is a debate thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:39 AM
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I'm not a biologist, but in high school biology we learned that just because X chromosomes have more genetic material doesn't mean the mother contributes more of it to the child, because Barr bodies suppress much of it so that the mother and father are contributing 50/50. The entire purpose of sexual reproduction is to increase genetic variety, so it would almost defeat the purpose if the mother was contributing 90% of the genetic material as you seem to be implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:29 AM
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Are you serious?? Stepdads are basically just dads if the kids are under 5 and/or their biological father is out of the picture. I was adopted by my dad when I was 2 and he's always been my one and only dad. I met my sperm donor in my early 30s after doing 23&Me, and he's a nice guy, we still keep in touch, but I call him by his first name and he'll never be a dad to me. My sister died last year and left behind 2 small kids, and their aunt and uncle almost immediately became "mama" and "dada" (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:28 PM
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This is such a delusional take, and I'm sorry you feel that women think this way. Genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:23 PM
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wow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:07 PM
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For fuck's sake. I've seen with my own eyes multiple instances of them expressing interest in, pursuing, or dating guys who are at least a few inches shorter than them without heels. They can tell these men are shorter than they are because they have eyeballs. They've never expressed any hint of embarrassment or looking down on them (no pun intended), only "I really hope he's okay with it. A lot of guys say they are and then end up being weird about it".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:14 AM
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🙄 I've seen them approach, flirt with, swipe right on, and yes, even date guys who are shorter than they are. That's a lot of effort just to "make women look good" or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:10 AM
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It's true from what I've seen in my social circle. They sort of have to be, if nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:32 AM
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I'm short, but 2 of my closest female friends are tall (both 5'10" I think, plus thin and conventionally attractive), and they are definitely are open to dating shorter guys but are filtered out by them because of their height. I've seen it happen in real time. The only woman in my immediate friend group who's a height queen is average height herself (5'5" or 5'6") and we always tease her about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:30 AM
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sea monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:06 AM
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Good thing we have you here as a shining example of how mature, grown-up arguments are made
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:57 PM
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Succubus is singular, succubi is plural. If you're going to use such a weak, dorky insult, at least try to use it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:33 PM
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OK, but words have meanings. What you described is known as accelerationism, not anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:33 PM
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Some flavor of accelerationist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:11 PM
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So you were trying to put words into our mouths that no one said so you could rage against them. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:15 PM
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You're the only one who has brought "selfish desires" into the conversation. OP was bringing these social roles up as things that were once GOOD FOR MEN, and the commenter asked what's stopping them from still doing these things that were GOOD FOR MEN. Again, we're talking about hypothetical men who WANT to do these things rather than pursue relationships, but for some reason feel they can't. The whole "be useful and leave women alone" angle is coming from you and you alone. You are fighting aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:38 PM
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"Too bad men can't become cowboys or sailors anymore like they used to" "Why can't they?" "They shouldn't have to!!! Why can't YOU!!" ???
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:05 PM
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I agree with you, but I want to clarify about conscious attraction (personality etc etc) If I understand what you're implying here, I think for me it's the other way around. Looks are one of the qualities I'm consciously attracted to, while personality (more specifically, some certain magical combination that includes easy banter and a sense of trustworthiness) is what can sometimes unlock that unexplainable primal attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:07 AM
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What my brain finds attractive on an aesthetic level and my body is sexually attracted to on a primal level are not always aligned, I guess. Like I said, I'm puzzled by it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:22 AM
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Did I act like it was a compliment? I would never, ever in a million years divulge that to them (or anyone). If someone said that about me, I'd be horrified and probably want to kms. I don't feel great about it. I'm just describing how sexual attraction works for me sometimes. But the lust is genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:44 AM
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It happens to me all the time, normally when I have some form of interactive, intellectual or humor related chemistry with a dude, not just on sight. As a result of this, most of the men I’ve lusted after absolutely have not fit conventional standards. YES girl same! I thought it was just me. I've even felt embarrassed by the type of guy I was crushing on. It happens very rarely because I'm demisexual I guess, but when I do feel that intense magnetic chemistry with a man, I swear it will always …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:40 AM
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I always feel that kind of primal lust about my partner after we've started dating, but never toward strangers that I happen to pass by in public no matter how hot they are. With crushes, I think I tend to imagine making out with them, or them confessing their love to me, or other romantic/steamy situations way more than full-on sexual fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:24 AM
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Exactly all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:09 AM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:10 PM
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If I'm understanding your argument, you're claiming that women are less likely to run for political positions because they're biologically less risk-seeking. But in many other Western democracies, women are represented in government at near-equal proportions to men. It's particularly low in the US, where female representation has hovered around 25% for decades, with zero women ever attaining the highest office of President. The US currently ranks 76th in the world in the first metric, right next…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:22 AM
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Sure, but my point was to challenge the assumption many men tend to make in the West that "bigger is better" is an innate preference rooted in female biology that we're all just lying about to feel virtuous. I think it's more of a cultural preference coming from men's desire to physically dominate. And even in the West it wasn't always that way, as we can see in classical Greek art depicting the ideal male form.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:22 AM
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I'll take your word for it. As a counterpoint, porn in Japan has average sized dicks because the idea is to be relatable and allow men to project themselves onto the scenarios. I was asked by SO MANY PEOPLE when I lived there whether American men all really had such monster dongs like they do in porn, and had to explain that no, they're purposefully selected for porn to be as huge as possible because that's what men here want to see. So it's definitely culturally dependent. On a related note, Ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:04 PM
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I've never been to Chicago, so maybe. I'm loosely comparing the high-crime neighborhoods of SF to the high-crime neighborhoods of other major US cities in my experience. SF has a lower homicide overall than Chicago, but a higher one than NYC for example, and a higher rate of property theft than both, so it didn't seem too wild of a reference point for the purposes of this discussion about defending one's home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:24 PM
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it’s funny regardless of what size the woman is, the dick is always huge. And everyone knows mainstream porn is catered toward the female gaze and women's pleasure, so it must be because women want to see that /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:42 PM
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I dated a guy once who had 9 inches, and I would loathe having sex. It was nothing but pain, microtearing, and infections. He always had to go slowly and carefully, and couldn't put it in all the way. We could never just let ourselves go and feel good. Also, I usually love giving BJs but with him it was physically painful and gave me lockjaw. He said it was basically always a problem for women and seemed kind of sad about it. He got respect and envy from other guys, but in his sex life it was al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:39 PM
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According to her, she is on par with the men she spars with who are also presumably in shape and trained in martial arts. If this is true, why wouldn't she be able to hold her own against an out of shape man who's 5'9"? Can you link to these videos you keep claiming exist? Also, she mentioned that size and physical strength aren't even usually the determining factors in who comes out on top in a fight, which is something I've heard consistently from soldiers, cops, and martial artists, and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:34 PM
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Because I don't think it's outlandish to believe that a woman in the upper percentile of height and muscle mass who has trained for years in multiple martial arts could plausibly be capable of defending her home without a man? She literally said she's just as strong as most men.... No, she said literally said she's "probably more capable of defending her home than most [men]". Since most Americans statistically are out of shape and haven't had combat training, it doesn't seem all that far-fetche…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:32 PM
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I think that is very good I think gender roles are pointless and dumb and women should also be chivarous toward men and propose and pay things for men on dates. I agree with all of this. I think people are people, and I like to show courtesy and generosity regardless of gender. I approach men, I split dates and sometimes pay for them, I hold doors open for everyone, and I'd be just as happy to propose to someone as I would be being proposed to. In my experience, men really appreciate these thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:48 AM
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You are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:56 AM
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This is such a contrived attempt at a gotcha 😂 1) Would most men be able to protect their house from multiple gang members with fully automated pistols? 2) I imagine most women don't live in the most gang-infested neighborhoods of downtown Chicago. For this vast majority of women, how is this scenario relevant? 3) The commenter speculated that she's more capable of defending her home than most homeowners. What do you believe is the level of protecting their home that most homeowners are capable …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:02 AM
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For reading and writing I highly recommend the Heisig Method, which introduces the characters and their components in a methodical sequence, building from the components you already know. He has released textbooks using this method for Japanese, Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese characters. Most Japanese/Chinese learning materials introduce the characters in the sequence learned by native speaking children, which is more based on word frequency. On the surface this makes sense, but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:53 AM
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I was WFH at my last job since Covid lockdowns, and now that I'm laid off and job hunting, and a lot of jobs are returning to the office (SWE in the Bay Area for context), I am SO ANNOYED that I might have to work onsite again. It feels like such a pointless waste of time and energy, and so constraining. I show up so much better for my job when I'm not drained by the commute, putting together an outfit and makeup, making small talk at the office, etc. There's definitely something to be said for …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:16 AM
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Thank you! 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:01 AM
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It's like a sugar baby except without the "being cute and fun to talk to" part Just let me be a parasite slob with no life goals or achievements playing games all day, while you obsess over me for no reason and pay my bills pls 🥺👉👈
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:59 AM
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Sounds like someone had a mother who did everything for him like a little princeling, and worshipped the ground he walked on just for existing, and he can't deal with the fact that the rest of the world expects him to earn love and respect (and money for basic survival) through his own accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:38 PM
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I'll make it short and simple for you. Educating someone who's misinformed in an area you're experienced in =/= agenda Engaging in a debate by challenging a claim =/= insecurity Wrong and harmful claims based on shallow interactions with a few bi-identifying people =/= "the real world" I hope that's easier for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:50 PM
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What agenda? I don't know these people, I'm just giving you insights based on my anecdotal experience and research, the same as you are. What words/actions told you they were not sexually attracted to women? If they called themselves bi and you are saying they are not bi, yes, you are disputing that. Words have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:45 PM
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I would think the insecure one is the one who exhibits Dunning-Kruger Syndrome and doubles down when someone who knows what they're talking about attempts to educate them. I would also think that confronting someone who's spreading misinformation and bias with facts is the opposite of insecure, but what do I know. Laughable to lecture me about "the real world" (i.e. a few bi women you've talked to) when you are loudly refusing to learn anything that might challenge the narrative you've built abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:38 PM
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they claimed that they were but they really weren't. That's not for you to dispute. Sexual orientation is based on how we experience attraction, so unless you know somehow for a fact that they aren't attracted to women, I don't see how you can make that call for them. They all end up with men. That doesn't preclude being bisexual, which also includes attraction to men! There are statistically way more straight men than sapphic women in the world for them to date. There's a concept called "comp h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:25 PM
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"People like me" meaning... all bi women, or women on reddit, or what? What am I lying about? So you admit a degree of ignorance on the topic, but instead of entertaining the possibility that you might be missing information, you double down and decide that anything that doesn't line up with your limited anecdotal experience must be LIES!!! Please just do some research and stop spreading whatever biased conclusions you drew from your limited interactions as fact. What you're saying isn't "uncomf…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:23 PM
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Did they say they weren't bi? And even if they're a straight woman, I'd think she has more in common with a man who likes men and women than a man who's strictly straight. It makes perfect sense to a redditer who wants to get upvoted by like-minded people. Yes, like-minded people meaning they agree with my comment and possibly feel the same way themselves. Otherwise what would they have to gain from their anonymous upvote that doesn't give them imaginary internet points and will never be traced …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:14 PM
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The thought has literally never even crossed my mind. If anything, I think of people who WFH as skilled and competent enough at their work that they can enjoy that freedom as one of the perks of the job. It's almost like asking, "do you think men who have catered lunches at the office are less masculine because they're not going outside, braving the elements, and getting their own meals like a true provider would?" Like no, I think they're lucky sons of bitches who are saving money, hassle, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:40 AM
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Ah ok then, I didn't realize you were such an expert on the topic. Please carry on telling us how bi women "mostly" are. I always enjoy learning new things about my community
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:58 PM
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Why is it dubious, and how is that a virtue signal? I can relate to what they're saying. It's not a stretch that someone who's not so steeped in traditional gender roles and views on sexuality might be drawn to partners who are more likely to share the same outlook. Makes perfect sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:55 PM
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I don't think it's a shared mentality across all men, but I also think it's a common enough mentality even among men who consider themselves sexually progressive. I'd say something like 60/40 or 70/30 toward men who are accepting if I had to throw out a WAG. So your experience doesn't necessarily contradict mine, but I'd say there might be more to the picture that you don't see. Like I'm not surprised at all that both of those bi women got married to straight men, but I would be surprised if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:53 PM
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"Can be" is pretty different than what you were implying, which is that women as a whole are hypocrites because a substantial number of them they claim to be allies while at the same time using "gay" as an insult. By that vague logic, men as a whole are hypocrites for the same reason, because although they are (presumably) less likely to call themselves allies, they are (presumably) more likely to use "gay" as an insult, and that there's still a potential that these "can be" the same people. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:45 PM
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So for the straight women who "comment on female beauty" more, it obviously doesn't translate into who they're sexually and romantically attracted to, so it's not a stretch to assume the same thing applies to bi women. In my anecdotal experience I haven't seen any clear trends like that that stand out. In fact, there are plenty of bi women who are more strongly attracted to men, but this makes them less likely to identify as bi due to imposter syndrome and/or gatekeeping. I've even seen comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:36 PM
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As an actual bisexual woman living and dating in the LGBTQ+ capital of the world, yes, I would call it a very common mentality. Have any of these guy friends dated a bi woman, or do they just say that they would?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:23 PM
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So bi men can't be masculine or leaders in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:17 PM
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Do you think the women who are "claiming to be the biggest LGBTQ allies" are the same women who are using "gay" as an insult? I see these as two distinct groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:11 PM
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Yeah, I don't even try to initiate anything romantic with lesbians anymore tbh. Whether it's just straight up prejudice or some kind of collective trauma around bi women, I'm terrified of making a wrong move and accidentally contributing to it lol. For me it's just been bi women and open-minded straight men so far. I haven't dated a bi man yet but really want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:08 PM
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Tbf I've been seeing a LOT of backlash for that album cover from people who used to give her the benefit of the doubt ("it's satire! It's for the girlies!") and are now disillusioned and disgusted. That album cover clearly isn't satirizing anything, it's playing into it for album sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:00 PM
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I doubt most women even claim to want to abolish gender norms. The ones who are grossed out by the idea of dating bi men are largely the same ones who loudly body shame short men, make jokes about penis size, and have strong opinions about what a "real man" should be. So they are backward and sexist, but consistently so. But I agree that the minority of women who see themselves as progressive about gender and sexuality yet would never deign to date a man who has been tainted by another man's dic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:55 PM
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Many straight men are ok with bi women when it's a hot fantasy catered to the male gaze, but are grossed out/uncomfortable with dating someone who has been in "lesbian" relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:39 PM
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Nah, this is ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:34 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:30 PM
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But since women are way flakier in dating, I think a lot of bi women are more lesbian than bi. Just us dudes are more interested in women we are easier to get a relationship going. I don't quite follow your argument here, but I wanted to chime in that for a lot of bi people, it's not exactly like we're attracted to all genders equally so we can have our pick depending on what's easiest. Many bi people experience a stronger sexual attraction to one gender, and/or a stronger romantic attraction to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:28 PM
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What data?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:16 PM
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IME many of the guys who think the idea of bi women is "hot" still wouldn't want to date one if it came down to it. The reasoning is exactly as the parent comment guessed: "she's more likely to cheat", "I can't fulfill all her needs", plus a stereotype that we're nympho sluts (which is a turnoff for some, and an exciting fantasy for others, but an unfair assumption in either case).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:14 PM
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Again, this dataset includes documentaries about scammers where no one dies. I suppose the Fyre Festival documentary would qualify as well. Of course the vast majority of people are watching those for entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:58 PM
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46% of viewers watch it for entertainment, only 7% do so for preparation. But this isn't broken down by gender, and in several places the article also gives the following: Women are 2.5 times more likely than men to consume true crime content to prepare for unsafe situations. Also, the way they're defining "true crime" seems to be way broader than the way I assume we're defining it, based on: “Inventing Anna” is the most searched for true crime content in the U.S. Inventing Anna is a documentary…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:16 AM
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When men are more likely to be killed in a fit of rage, and women are less likely to be killed overall but when they do they are far more likely to be specifically targeted and stalked, tortured, raped, abducted or trafficked, I don't think our feelings of vulnerability are entirely unwarranted. It seems like you are a caring and morally-minded person in general, but you have this huge blind spot around applying this to women. I notice a pattern of ascribing bizarre, almost psychopathic motives …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:06 AM
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> If you agree with me that true crime is disrespectful and distasteful, then why have you defended it in other comments? I said that I agree that watching it as entertainment is disrespectful and distasteful. I am skeptical that most women who watch it are getting enjoyment out of it, and I definitely disagree that most women are doing so while thinking "fuck that pretty young woman/ teenage girl. I'm so glad that happened to her". > Who do you see criticizing it, though? I'd thinking more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:52 AM
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I don't think seeing strangers as "the type of people who would be my sexual rivals" and then feeling glee when horrific things happen to them as a result is a thing. And serial killer victims are much more likely to be female than typical homicide victims. According to FBI data, women accounted for 70 percent of the 1,398 known victims of serial killers during the 1985 to 2010 time frame (1). By way of comparison, females represented only 22 percent of all other homicide victims in the U.S. dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:33 AM
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> my love for prequel Anakin The guy who murdered a room full of innocent children? Yeah, I'd find that a weird character to "love". No one has ever said they "love" John Wayne Gacy. Btw, I agree with you that consuming true crime out of enjoyment/entertainment is distasteful and disrespectful to the victims and their families, and I actually see this called out as problematic a lot online. I saw almost nothing but criticism around the release of the Dahmer biopic recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:02 AM
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The only people I've known who admitted to watching facesofdeath and ISIS beheadings and other real-life gore content have been men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:58 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:57 AM
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The suggestion that women educate themselves on the gruesome details of innocent women being kidnapped, tortured and raped with a sense of satisfaction because there's one less "sexual rival" in the world is not only disgusting, but doesn't even make sense because odds are that the vast majority of the victims lived in different cities and/or decades. Women see themselves in the victims, because it can happen to anyone, especially any woman or child. The victims' only crime was being at the wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:53 AM
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I used to hate cashews, olives, and pistachio ice cream, and now I like all those things. Conversely, I used to be practically addicted to Lucky Charms breakfast cereal and Mountain Dew, and now I can't stand either of them. WHAT NOW
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:46 PM
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Where did I say that's bad? We joke around about it, but it's her life. I really don't care who she does and doesn't date, as long as she's not being abused or anything. Again, you're making assumptions about things I never said. Who's to say you only changed your preferences out of necessity? I mean, I like what I like. I don't know what to tell you or how to justify it. This is getting into philosophical territory. Is anything that we like fully within our control, or is it determined by outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't go so far as to say I find them repulsive, but along the spectrum between meh and cringe (sorry to keep overusing that word). I really tried to get back into anime at one point when I was living in Japan and needed to improve my Japanese, but I just couldn't pretend to enjoy it anymore. That doesn't make the lack of those traits attractive. The lack of those traits is nothing more than a footnote. If anyone said that about me, that would be because they couldn't find anything else abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:34 PM
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You're inserting a lot of your own assumptions there. First of all, I still date guys who are capable of breaking my heart because I love them. And I have had my heart broken recently, if that makes you feel better. It's just that when I look back and see what type of guys those were in my early-mid 20s, I feel kind of baffled and embarrassed. There's some elements of manipulation, immaturity, cringe, selfishness, etc. that I didn't pick up on back then that are so immediately unattractive to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:10 PM
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In which case you always like going clubbing. I used to love going clubbing in my 20s, but in my late 20s the fun started to wear off and I became less interested in it. By my early-mid 30s I struggled to understand what I ever found appealing about it in the first place. I grew out of a lot of things I loved in my 20s, like Tim Burton movies, black metal, anime, and processed junk food/fast food. Looking back I find some things I used to love completely cringe and unappealing now. That 10000% g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:02 PM
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I bet he was amazing in bed. He seems to understand female pleasure so well /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:01 PM
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Wouldn't that by definition make those guys in their "league"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:30 PM
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What study? The OP was talking about a hypothetical scenario they invented as a thought exercise, not real life. It's a lot easier to feel sorry for someone when you know them IRL vs a stranger on a forum. I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here. I think it's a pretty normal facet of the human condition that we can empathize with a struggle after seeing someone close to us go through something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:16 AM
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If 60% of couples were meeting through apps, wouldn't that mean a lot of men are finding success there? I do feel sorry for genuinely good men who struggle with dating. My best friend of 15+ years is a straight man, and I saw how soul-crushing it was when he was trying to find his person when it seemed like he was doing everything right. I'm also currently job hunting and have sent out 600+ applications for roles I'm very qualified (and sometimes overqualified) for. I've had career coaches, ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:24 PM
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The US is the best country in the world for women in terms of education, economic mobility, and political influence. This is patently false, by every possible metric. To take one example, the current proportion of women in Congress is around 27%, which is the highest it's ever been in our history by far. This still puts us at 78th place in the world for female representation in legislature, ranking alongside the well-known "feminist utopias" of Iraq, Tajikstan, Zimbabwe, and Sierra Leone. On top…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:47 AM
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I don't think they ever sold them to begin with. I first started going there in the early 2000's
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:02 AM
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Yeah, the gender-swapped equivalent of men's "treat her like a princess", "be a gentleman", etc. is this. The gender-swapped equivalent of women's "men ain't shit" is women-bashing. Both exist for both sexes, but OP is trying to equate apples and oranges by insisting that more girls are being taught to the man-hating in the same context where their boy counterparts are being taught to treat them like princesses. I haven't seen anything to suggest that this is the case. I still think that in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:10 AM
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Wdym? I still see them in the checkout line of every grocery store I go to (Idk who's buying them, but that's another issue)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:50 AM
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Women are loved unconditionally... under the condition that we're not fat, old, ugly, or sick, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:41 PM
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Wtf? When my parents divorced (with both of them equally at fault because they are immature and petty), my mom was stuck with 90% of the childcare, feeding us, clothing us, enrolling us in afterschool programs so she can take a second job, etc. for children they had BOTH brought into this world. We were stretched thin as it is - it would physically not have been possible to raise us if my dad weren't paying his share for my mom to do all this. We would have had to have been put into foster care,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:01 AM
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I saw this in Japan when I lived there, too. Even as a culture that highly values consideration, decorum, and not being a burden on others, they were very accepting of kids acting like kids in public spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:15 PM
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That's seriously fucked up. I could never trust someone who's comfortable sharing their partner's most intimate details behind their back like that. The disrespect, the lack of boundaries.... it's trash behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:47 AM
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Wtf... I used to be a pretty big ho but the thought of passing a man around my friend group like a community dildo is 🤮🤮 I'm not saying it's never happened, but your "85-90% of men will never experience anything like that" should probably be way higher, and IMO that anecdote says more about that particular friend group than it does about female sexuality in general
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:28 AM
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I almost never do when I'm alone, but that's mostly because makeup can be expensive and messy (you have to be careful not to rub your eyes, for example). When I do wear it, I have a lot of fun with it, the same way I find it fun and expressive to put together a "look" and accessorize, even if I can't be bothered to put the energy into it every day. I'm the same way with fragrance. It seems wasteful to use it every day, but when I do it makes the day feel special and puts a spring in my step, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:48 PM
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Yes, because all you did is invent a cartoonishly evil abuser as proof that abusers are typically cartoonishly evil and easy to spot, when OP's point is that they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:48 PM
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I have no problem with it either, but it seems to be a very common observation in r/bisexual FWIW
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:16 AM
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You're just rejecting everything that doesn't line up with your preconceptions for no reason. Sounds a lot like sour grapes to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:52 PM
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I am a victim of CSA, and I've also fallen victim to older, predatory men who targeted me when I was in my teens and early 20s specifically because of my youth and naivete. To me, these are entirely separate issues, and you're the one who introduced this red herring conflating them, and are now saying that one isn't important because the other is so much more important. Targeting young women isn't illegal, it's just sleazy. Pointing out that it's sleazy, judging men for it, warning women against…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:33 PM
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Whenever the topic comes up, women seem to pretty consistently say that they first started to be sexualized by men when they were in their preteens. For me it was an everyday occurrence by the time I was 13. I used to count the number of times men would honk and catcall me during the ~30 minute walk between my home and middle school. And if anything I looked a few years younger than my age at the time. Then in high school you'd have grown men looking you up and down, licking their chops, and tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:46 AM
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OK, so if you agree that it's weird, then why is it "bitter jealousy and hate" for a woman to say the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:20 AM
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Same for me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:56 PM
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A lot of it isn't concern, it's bitter jealousy and hate. You know this how? Even "post wall" women get more sexual attention from men than we know what to do with. Why would we be jealous of the ones that are so creepy that they target barely legal, inexperienced women? It sounds like wishful thinking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:50 PM
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So sick of reading in this sub that if a woman expresses concern over possible predatory behavior it must be because we are jealous and desperately want those creeps for ourselves. It's actually very telling of these type of men's priorities and worldview that they would project these motivations onto us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:58 PM
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absolutely a lifestyle choice You sound pretty confident. What are you basing this claim on, besides feelz? Getting married to someone and pretending to be attracted to them for the rest of your life seems like a lot of effort for woke clout
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:54 PM
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A lot of bi men even talk about facing stigma from bi women, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:52 PM
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Cool, so you've never had a lesbian friend and are just making shit up out of thin air and have convinced yourself it's a courageous hot take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:49 PM
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Assuming you're straight, can you describe what your marriage would have to be like in order to reach the point where you start feeling attracted to men? Having a bad experience in an opposite-gender relationship has never magically made someone romantically and/or sexually attracted to their same gender when they weren't before. Sexuality is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:40 PM
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That is not shown in the data you posted. It's you projecting your assumptions onto the data. I'm in my late 30s, but live in a major city and I have more single than married friends. Not being married hasn't affected my social life or invitations in any way I've noticed. OTOH my late sister was a young mother in small town Kentucky, and often complained of feeling socially isolated after becoming a parent. So I think someone's happiness or lack thereof being single has a lot to do with what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:24 AM
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Where do you see women getting "awfully triggered"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:13 AM
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Me, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:59 AM
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Correlation =/= causation. This could just as well be showing that women who are miserable are less likely to be in a relationship and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:43 AM
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When it comes to Instagram or TikTok, people have their faces and identities attached to the likes and views, so that's where the validation comes from (and hence the cringey lying/acting for validation). What I don't get is how people are supposed to be motivated to do that for karma points toward kyonshi61 for example, who virtually no one will recognize the next time they see me post. I know there are fake stories on Reddit all the time, but I assume they're more motivated by karma farming or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:21 PM
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That's sad. I think the internet could do with more sympathy and more benefit of the doubt. I kind of tend to assume the opposite, that the sympathetic and positive posts are genuine (unless they're clearly empty platitudes without a brain cell of thought behind them, but those are easy to identify), and the vile shit is some kind of protective mechanism coming from a place of hurt. I believe that deep down, most of us crave real connection over cheap validation or antagonism. It takes courage t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:10 PM
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Why would women go through the effort to lie for "fake internet brownie points" on an anonymous forum? And if we cared so much about reddit karma or validation from anonymous internet strangers, wouldn't it be easier to say "yeah I love big dicks, all women feel the same, everyone who says otherwise is lying" and be flooded with upvotes and comments from men who will feel validated in their worldview? Every time I describe on Reddit my feelings about height, dick size, or income (which are all r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:33 PM
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I'd think of it as a green flag, as long as enough time has passed and he doesn't still seem hung up on her (bringing her up all the time, etc). It shows maturity and the ability to appreciate women as more than romantic/sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:51 PM
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90% of the nerve endings are located in the bottom 1/5 of the vagina, which is around the first 1 inch or so. The other spot that feels pleasure is the G spot, which is 2-3 inches in. So I can see how girth would make a difference for vaginal orgasms in some women, but length does not unless it's a micropenis or too big. Personally, I feel feel enough pain/discomfort to take all the enjoyment out of sex at around 7 inches. 5-6 is ideal for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:00 PM
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OK. I'm sorry that happened to you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:23 PM
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No, that is a fair point, and I did not mean to imply that. I'm saying that overall, in the long run (I believe I used these same words in previous comments), I'm not sure how you can say that even though you are diagnosed with a disorder defined by instability in relationships and mood, that you can say so confidently that the time you cried over something completely reasonable and understandable it was the reason for the relationship falling apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:14 PM
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I believe that loving, mutually respectful, non-predatory age gaps can exist, sure. But forgive me if I'm skeptical that a man who doesn't care about power would put "harem" in their flair and who admit to a history of pursuing barely legal women from vulnerable backgrounds. I also believe that non-predatory age gap relationships in this age range are such a rare exception that the cost of socially shunning them is worth it to protect the overwhelming majority of cases that are exploitative. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:08 PM
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the jumping is just the fact that you didn't ask if I emotionally regulate, you literally jumped to the conclusion that I don't. Again, you told us that, because that's literally what BPD is. A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self image and affects [added for clarity: meaning emotions and moods], and marked impulsivity... Just so I understand, are you claiming that you have BPD but that the DSM-5 definition of BPD doesn't apply to you? It would be like me saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:57 PM
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I didn't insult you, before or after any edits. I think my comments have made it very clear that I'm not prejudiced toward women or against pwBPD. YOU are the one who mentioned your BPD in the context of you crying, so I don't think it's "jumping" to anything to interpret that as your crying being triggered by your BPD in those cases. Because that's literally what you appeared to be telling us. I really think women should be more open to accepting other's experience everytime I get quickly inval…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:33 PM
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OK, so show me in my edit history where I said this? All my edits have been for clarity, not to change or erase entire things I was saying. I've been nothing but empathetic and patient with you this whole time. From here it looks like the previous commenter's snark threw you into defensive mode, and you've been reading everything after it through that lens, even though it was never my intention to dunk on you at all. Again, I HAVE BPD, so everything I'm saying about you I'm also saying about mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:03 PM
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Point me to where I say the words "you need to work on your emotional regulation"? And if I did, would that be an unfair conclusion to draw based on the fact that you brought up meeting the criteria for a diagnosis based on emotional dysregulation? I need to work on my emotional regulation, too. Even though I'm in remission, I will have to work on it for the rest of my life. It's our cross to bear. It is what it is. Pointing out that your diagnosis is pertinent context to the discussion is not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:28 PM
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I don't assume that. I'm just saying that if you still met the diagnostic criteria for a disorder that's characterized by intense emotional reactions that impact relationships, then that's relevant context to this discussion about how women react to healthy emotional displays. If your diagnosis weren't relevant to the way you reacted during those relationships, you wouldn't have brought it into the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:08 PM
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Well, no one ever said self-reflection is our strong suit 😅 Yes, there is a very actual likelihood that you were not showing healthy, regulated emotional reactions by the very definition of BPD. It is a personality disorder that primarily effects relationships. If you meet the diagnostic criteria, it follows that your emotional expression and your relationships are affected. By definition. Why does this offend you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:28 PM
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I'm a woman with BPD (in remission), and I've dated at least one man whom I now strongly suspect of having it. Personally, I didn't read the comment you're replying to as an attack at all. It's just facts. One of the hallmarks of our disorder is intense and disregulated emotional responses. Over the long term it can be exhausting to deal with for our loved ones, and can take a toll on any relationship, including friends, and including male partners of female BPD sufferers. I think it's fair to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:51 PM
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We do both, and we don't expect young people to listen because they're young, and we expect even less from the men because they're the ones trying to benefit at someone's expense. But you still try to warn people based on experience, the same way you would spread awareness about the dangers of hard drugs, abusive relationships, catfishing scams, etc. Some people just have to learn the hard way and it's heartbreaking to watch, but you do what you can and hope some of it sticks. My little sister c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:51 PM
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Your attempts to confidently tell people what they're thinking and feeling after so many of us have taken the time to try and explain it to you are amusing, too. I could just as easily say something like, "the only reason men always say 'no fatties, no single moms' is because they want to scare off any competitors by making those women seem low value so they can have them for themselves, and any man claiming they're not attracted to these women is in denial because I said so". Even TRP should ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:16 AM
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I believe most women who object to age gap relationships (particularly where the girl is in her teens/early 20s and the man is much older) feel so strongly about it because so many of us have experiences of our naivete being taken advantage of at that age. Not to say that all older men who gravitate toward young women of that age for committed adult relationships are predatory (being generous with benefit of the doubt here), but all men who are predatory types will definitely gravitate toward th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:25 PM
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More like it's the perfect example of some people making excuses to invest years into a relationship when the other person isn't trying. I gave him some of the best years of my life fighting to make things work, communicating and empathizing in every way possible, telling him in very clear terms that my attraction to him was suffering and the relationship would be untenable if he kept making me feel like a mom with a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:12 PM
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Like, every single time. Over a course of 4 years living together. Often with multiple $20 bills. Obviously it wasn't the only issue with our relationship, and I didn't "leave him at the side of the road" 🙄 In fact, I was in therapy for years trying to figure out how to help him with these issues because he refused to go, even though he suspected he was on the spectrum and it might have saved our relationship if he got diagnosed and treated for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:05 PM
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lmao, the thing is he was extremely competent in most areas of life (senior software engineer at a FAANG company, good at DIY/home repair, doomsday prepper, etc) so when you come across something that a toddler should be able to accomplish, you figure it's a strange little quirk that you can iron out together. Early on in the relationship he made a big show of being apologetic and "working on it". I was so puzzled by it that I actually suspected he might have some sort of super specific mental d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:49 PM
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It's more common than you might think. My ex was similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:15 PM
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Haha, well there's a lot of details I disagree with there even though I agree with the overall sentiment. Again, I'm a nerd; I grew up immersed in geek culture, and used to be a game developer. I'd feel right at home at ComiCon or debating Iron Man vs. Spider-Man (btw it's Iron Man by a mile, not even a question). While I still have one foot in that world, I had a bit of a glow up in my 20s that gave me a pass into "normie" society and allowed me to branch out socially and grow in a lot of diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:13 PM
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As someone who inhabits a lot of nerdy spaces, kinksters are nerds. Like you, I dabbled in my 20s but lost interest after too many experiences being the "one hot person" in a room full of awkward, horny weirdos. (I use "hot person" loosely, because for context I'm maybe a 7 on a good day.) I love my weirdos fr, but it's different in a sexually charged setting where they're all explicitly angling to fuck. I imagine the experience is like being one of those cosplayer girls at an anime convention, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:43 PM
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Right, which gender was it again that so stubbornly avoids therapy that it's become a meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:36 AM
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I'm single by choice at the moment. But I'm a very loyal partner and have never had any desire to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:56 PM
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The OP is flaired as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:45 PM
1

I agree with you (check my flair, I am bi)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:41 PM
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Yes, that is definitely a factor. This gets assumed a lot about bi women too, both from straight men and gay women. (Contrary to the stereotype of straight men being eager to date a bi woman, I would guess that at least half would refuse to for this reason)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:20 PM
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Ah I see, I misunderstood your comment as suggesting that women are outliers among people that were beaten in childhood. My experience as a kid was similar to the above commenter's. I was seen as weird and ostracized by most other kids, but especially girls. Definitely never felt embraced by a universal "sisterhood". Plenty of girls can be really cliquey and cruel to each other. I suspect this loneliness is a common experience for children from dysfunctional and abusive homes, regardless of gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:24 AM
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Fun story, I was once the target of a terrorist bomb threat for liking an Anita Sarkeesian video 😅 I was working as a game designer during gamergate on a Japanese franchise that was previously known for its campy OTT sexualized depiction of women, but was starting to change artistic direction and tone that aspect down. These were decisions being made wayyyy above my paygrade, I was only a lowly new hire doing the job I was paid to do, but since I was the only woman and only non-Japanese on the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:58 AM
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My siblings and I were, by our mother. My brother got off way easy compared to us 3 girls, we believe from a combination of him being the youngest and my mom favoring boys (which he'll admit himself without hesitation). Funny enough, she used to always complain about her mother doing the same with her siblings. This nonprofit claims that girls are slightly more likely to be abused than boys (8.2 in 1,000 girls vs. 7.1 in 1,000 boys), but it seems to be combining physical abuse, sexual abuse, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:53 AM
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Because she's not a massive outlier. Your view of the world is massively warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:16 AM
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Pretty simple stuff, look at who a young cute girl dated and then who she married, if she fails to lock down a top guy. Maybe she didn't "fail to lock down" an asshole, but it didn't work out with them because they were assholes? I think for most healthy, sane people, being an asshole precludes them from being a "top guy", the same way a selfish, entitled bitch isn't a quality woman no matter how hot she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:40 AM
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In my city good luck getting law enforcement to respond to a break-in or DV report, but don't worry, when it comes to unlawful bro hangs we're all over that shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:38 PM
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I'm familiar with Title VII, but what's the relevance here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:34 AM
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The feminist gestapo is going door-to-door shutting down men-only TTRPG nights and arresting them for wrongthink, didn't you hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:31 AM
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"Befriend any guy who asks" is asking a bit much. We don't do that for every woman we cross paths with, either. If you treat women as any other human being with no ulterior motive and they feel safe about your intentions, then friendships should form organically the same way they do with guys. The problem is that most guys would call this "friendzoning" and see it as an insult, and they pull away when they sense it happening because the idea of female friendships with no potential to "go anywher…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:25 AM
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I understand what an analogy is. What I'm trying to explain is that this particular analogy works from zero angles, and works against your point more than it supports it. Also, the hyperbole is cringe. You might as well have said "feminism is like the Holocaust because it's suppressing straight white men's right to exist in public" like whoa that's deep bro, really puts your struggles in perspective 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:56 PM
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I live downtown SF. Within just a few blocks of me there's a masonic lodge and 2 of those historic high society social clubs, all of which are limited to men only. They're very well-known and have prominent buildings, nothing underground or illegal. No one is stopping you from hosting a guys-only TTRPG night 🤣 What do you imagine happens if you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:35 PM
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Not who you're asking, but yes...? Is it that hard for some people to fathom having a diverse group of friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:26 PM
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Societies that practice sharia law are built around male-only and female-only spaces to keep the sexes segregated, so the analogy is kind of the opposite of what you were going for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:19 PM
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Out of curiosity, did you have any male therapists? Part of the author's argument is along the lines of what you're saying, that female therapists might not always understand men's unique emotional pressures and fail to meet them where they're at. I do agree that there's a danger of falling into a victim mindset where every little quirk or life challenge is put under a lense and pathologized. Overcoming things on your own without fanfare can be huge in helping us build confidence and inner stren…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:14 PM
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I would ask you to define "effeminate" and to substantiate any of these claims, but I'll respect your wishes and leave you alone. You seem to have it all figured out already 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:24 AM
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That didn't answer my question. If you were provably wrong, would you even care? The way you present your opinions as fact suggests not. I am done with this conversation. Of course you are. I would expect no less from the kind of person who downvotes someone for disagreeing with them. Can't have those views challenged or our examined too closely, can we? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:21 AM
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Again, psychotherapy doesn't make men into women lol. If masculinity is such a delicate construct that all it takes to deprogram it is to talk to someone, then I guess there's not much of a basis to say that masculinity is a factual inherent thing in the first place. All the pioneers in the field were educated straight men operating on scientific principles, if that helps you value it more. I don't think men need to be "more like women" whatever that means, but you might need to examine your mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:11 AM
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You should examine your feelings that there's something inherently feminizing about mental health treatment. It seems to be based on your social conditioning and nothing more. If you found out your opinion is wrong and that spreading it is actively harmful to men, would you even care?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:00 AM
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This is speaking from ignorance, pure and simple. Science disagrees with you. Human nature disagrees with you. The book explains why, if you're open to being convinced. It was written by a man who was raised to believe that depression was a women's issue and that talking about your feelings is unmasculine. His experiences with men with PTSD forced him to radically change his perspective. Being open to changing your views based on evidence and experience is an admirable thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:57 PM
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And yeah surely therapist promoting noble masculinity, lol. What a bizarre thing to say. Do you think all therapists who are men got into their field to "pussify" other men, or to help people who are struggling? I suspect you're operating on some stereotypical assumptions about male mental health experts. If you actually care about men and noble masculinity, you would support the idea of separating it from the violence, anger, and self-hate that hold so many of them back. Unless you're a heartle…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:53 PM
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What about men who were abused by their fathers? Or sexually abused? Or viciously bullied throughout their childhood? You never know what someone's been through, and if it causes them to lash out at others with rage or self-sabotage, it can only be a positive thing for everyone if they examine and address it. We don't think of self-improvement and training as a feminine trait when it's done in the gym, so why should men be shamed out of observing their self-harming patterns and consciously retra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:46 PM
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You're making a lot of assumptions. No one is deriding healthy or "noble" masculinity. The book is written by a man and is full of celebrations of healthy masculinity. Have you ever spent time with a male combat veteran with PTSD who struggles to function in society? Do you think they're not deserving of professional help, that they should just suck it up or else they're weak? In fact, the author's experience stems from working with these strong, heroic men and sharing what has helped them retur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:35 PM
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You'd rather have a society rampant with DV, gun violence, alcoholism, depression-induced ED, and crippling porn addiction because it's more manly? What's wrong with men learning to communicate effectively, draw boundaries, gain self-awareness, and cope with stress and trauma in healthy ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:25 PM
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Women have much worse mental health than men I was with you up until this part. Depression in men is severely underdiagnosed, partially because they are less likely to seek mental health care and partially because their symptoms present in different ways than women's, and are more likely to manifest as anger and substance abuse issues. I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression by Terrence Real is excellent reading on this. Real is a psychotherapist who has de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:08 PM
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( cont'd) To address a few points in your last comment: You're just assuming because women feel unsafe they must be unsafe and any measure to protect themselves is automatically valid and reasonable. I'm... not assuming that anywhere, at all? That's what you've chosen to read into it. I'm literally just describing why it feels more demeaning than validating for us, because others have asked. No where did I make any value judgment on those feelings or portray men as dangerous. I just meant that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:24 AM
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I still think you're misunderstanding me. This is how the thread played out in my mind: Commenter #1 (M): I went on grindr and got bombarded with dick pics and aggressive sexual advances, and I guess that's what it must be like a lot of the time for women getting slammed with attention from men they aren't attracted to. IMO sure it was exhausting and objectifying, but it wasn't all that bad Commenter #2 (M): The equivalent of women getting hit on by ugly men* is not straight men getting hit on b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:19 AM
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This guy has a pattern of things like this. He once pointed me to an unhinged post he made where he insisted "every single woman was agreeing with me" and every comment was literally the opposite. It's like his perception of reality bends to fit his persecution complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:12 AM
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I think you're confused. I was responding to the idea that the equivalent of ugly men giving you attention is ugly woman giving you attention. I was pushing back on this comparison based on my experiences and understanding as a woman. Not because I think ugly women can't be assholes, but because this comparison is missing the element of physical threat and entitlement that women often experience from men who are hitting on them. It's not just a matter of being inconvenienced by some well-meaning…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:26 AM
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We're talking about why getting constant sexual advances from men isn't taken as a compliment. None of the points you brought up were relevant to this. These are not things that typically happen when ugly women hit on men. There are just as many female assholes as male assholes. Welcome to equality. I've never denied this; in fact, I've been very vocal about that point on this sub. Again, not sure how this is relevant to the discussion at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:40 AM
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Stop judging men and pedos for working with children. I assume (hope) this is a typo for "stop judging men as* pedos"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:17 PM
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I don't see women who do suffer from crippling loneliness and rejection, wish they had more of it, nor do I see men wildly successful in dating and receiving constant sexual interest, wish they had less of it. That might also be because you're still framing it in those terms. I could also say "I don't see men who suffer from constant unwanted sexual harassment, wish they had more of it, nor do I see women who feel safe walking to their car alone at night, wish they had less of it." I honestly do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:50 AM
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I was not complaining, I was disagreeing and adding more context to your comparison. And I don't like "men who can beat me up". You can see in my post history where I consistently state that I prefer skinny/subtly toned guys, as well as short guys because I am short. I didn't read the rest of your very ADULT rant because it seems like you're mad about something that has nothing to do with me or my one-line comment. Maybe you should make a separate post about it. Good luck and take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:14 AM
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I agree with everything you're saying. I've also been abused by women, and I think it's disgusting when abuse against men is dismissed. I'm strictly only describing the experience of being the more relentlessly sexually pursued sex, and why it usually feels more threatening and degrading than complimentary, since this seems to be a perspective that's confusing to most men. Basically the "waves of horny men I wasn't attracted to" is something that starts at early puberty and isn't something we ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:06 AM
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I don't. I interact with men every day and see the good in them, as well. I have brothers, nephews, and close male friends I love dearly. I'm just shining light on women's experiences with nearly a lifetime of being sexually pursued, because I think it's hard for most guys to understand how it could be anything but complimentary and privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:16 AM
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the equivalent of ugly men giving you attention is ugly woman giving you attention. You claimed this was an equivalency and I pointed out why it wasn't. Not sure what your response has to do with that, or why you feel this discussion warrants personal insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:32 AM
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Only if the ugly women are also threatening, degrading, and capable of physically overpowering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:36 AM
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I went to see what grindr was about once. I immediately experienced how it was to receive waves of horny men I wasn't attracted to messaging me. I know that getting that every day must be tiring You're close, but not quite there. Now imagine getting that same attention in person, from men who could physically overpower you and often get pushy/aggressive when they're rejected, and you have to navigate this constantly whenever you're just existing in public, starting from the age of 11 on average,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:32 AM
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You can read my comment as shrill and upset, or you can read it as matter-of-fact and monotone or anything in between. You made the choice to read it how you decided to. Thanks for pointing this out. I feel like I'm going crazy sometimes in this sub. Even when things get heated here, I would say my emotional state is some mix of bemused, baffled, or pitying, but the number of times I've been described as "shrieking" or "shrill" or "triggered" (or seen other women described like that when I didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:53 AM
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Yeah, I was totally on his side as a childfree woman who doesn't want to date single parents. But when he let slip the "raising another man's kid" bit, that raised alarm bells that he might have been judgey and condescending about it rather than just sharing his preference. I was one of those kids who was adopted by my dad after he married my single mom, so I have a lifetime of experience with people who suck at hiding their sense of moral superiority and schadenfreude over our life circumstance…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:33 AM
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Women also tend to be flaky, which is why many men push for early dates. Virtually all the bi women I know tell me they don't date other women because it often leads to ghosting or wasted effort. All my bi women friends prefer dating men because it’s easier. What’s your experience been like? Replying to this separately since it feels like a different topic, but I don't have any experience seriously dating women because my family are bigots and I don't ever plan on coming out to them. My experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:51 AM
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But I feel judging compatibility through texting is hard, which is why low-commitment dates like coffee or a walk can help. I agree with this. I actually loathe texting, and I enjoy meeting new people. But you still need to narrow it down before you choose who to invest this time with. For the sake of argument, let's pretend I have 100 new matches in a week (which is not typical, but not impossible if I'm super active on an app): - Around half can be eliminated based on physical attraction or la…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:34 AM
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Why would they waste their time reading 100s of bios to match with 1 or 2 people? You're asking for a huge amount of labour It works the other way too, though. I'm pretty average-cute and I get hundreds (EDIT: on reflection, dozens is more accurate) of matches when I open the app every few days. I'm trying to filter these based on compatibility and looks, with an emphasis on compatibility. If we don't align in our values, relationship goals, etc. then I'm not going to waste my time no matter how…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:30 PM
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Literally, I only know of their existence from this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:42 PM
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This has been my experience, too. Sure, there are some conventionally attractive men who will treat you like shit because they see you as replaceable, and are used to getting away with a lot more bad behavior in general due to the halo effect. There are also some ugly men who will treat you like shit because they think the surest way to keep you is to control you, isolate you, and tear down your self-esteem until you're too much of a codependent shell of a human to ever think of leaving. IMO the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:50 AM
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"Guarantee" is a strong word. I wish I could be as optimistic, although it almost certainly has gotten better than previous generations. I've never been married but anecdotally, I have two sisters who are/were. One lucked out / chose well and her husband is an awesome father and partner. The other one got pregnant and rushed to get married young, and her guy apparently took his "shitty dad who never did anything" as a blueprint to emulate rather than a cliché to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:06 AM
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Yes, I agree you were clutching at straws by pointing to adverse health outcomes caused by social isolation, and making the leap that these outcomes were caused specifically by not fucking. Glad we learned something today
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:30 PM
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It must be exhausting being so logical 🙂 Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:09 AM
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Again, the claim was that "men kill themselves due to lack of sex". If the claim were "1 man has killed himself over his romantic failures", no one would be asking for a source because I think it's safe to say that's a given. So you're getting yourself very worked up against a strawman. Not sure where ego and confidence comes into it, since I'm happy to learn something new if there's evidence for it. But you seem to be taking asking for that evidence as part of a rational discussion as a persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:33 AM
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"Going hand in hand" is called "correlation". The basic scientific adage is "correlation is not causation". To give the famous example: Ice cream purchases are highest during the summer months. Incidents of drowning in a swimming pool are also highest during the same months. So can we conclude that ice cream consumption causes drowning? This is why causation is a claim that needs to meet a high bar of evidence. You can't make the claim "lack of sex causes X" and cite a study that proves that "la…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:06 AM
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All these angry ad hominems when all that was asked for is a single study.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:55 AM
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So then you agree that lack of sex isn't the same thing as lack of intimacy or emotional connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:43 AM
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Idk, tone is hard to read through text, but the only one who seems triggered to me in this thread is the one who threw a fit because someone requested evidence for the claim that "men kill themselves due to lack of sex", which still no one has been able to provide. Stay mad bro 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:24 AM
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lol Maybe debating isn't for you. You seem overly sensitive to correction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:11 AM
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What? My point is about establishing causation. You're making a claim that isn't supported by your article.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:52 AM
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That's not how causation works. People who are socially isolated also tend not to go to concerts. That doesn't mean that not going to concerts will "severely impact your life expectancy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:43 AM
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Very sneaky of you to change the argument from "men kill themselves due to lack of sex" to "at least 1 man in history has killed himself due to failures in romance"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:33 AM
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The word "sex" does not appear once in this article. Who's gaslighting now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:18 AM
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He sure owned that guy by imagining how he pees
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:06 AM
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This is a debate sub lol Asking someone to back up a claim isn't argumentative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:05 AM
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I don't think it's fair or in good taste to blame his victims for setting him off. Elliott had had conflicts with all his previous roommates before. The ones he murdered were nerdy-looking Asian guys, not popular frat bro types or anything. In his manifesto, he wrote about his disgust and superiority complex toward Asian men, lamenting that even they could get girlfriends when he (a "beautiful Eurasian god") could not. Personally, although he himself was half-Asian, I consider their murders a ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:29 AM
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Frankly, I think it was more the autism and narcissism. Dude had a pretty face, and I think he could have easily overcome the shortness if he had an attractive personality, but seeing him in this video he had all the charisma of Zuckerberg paired with the seething spoiled entitlement of Trump. Watching him talk about himself creeps me out and gives me chills. He didn't necessarily "look" like a slimeball, but he radiated slimeball energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:15 AM
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You lost me at "lesbians are treated fine" and "only lesbians are accepted and aren't judged". This is a bafflingly out of touch take that tells me you probably haven't talked to a lesbian before about the prejudices they face. Straight men are all for the abstract idea of lesbians as long as they're both hot, feminine, performing for the male gaze, and open to bringing in a dick (i.e. the fake lesbians in porn for straight men). The reality of a woman who doesn't need validation or sex from men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:54 PM
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It's like playing a video game to learn about driving. How does a man reading erotica help him with women in real life? As far as I could tell, your original criticism of erotica was that it's less effective in teaching men than porn. Teaching men what? You didn't specify, so I assumed you meant teaching men how to fuck, because I can't imagine what else you would mean. And why don't women use that media to teach men? There are YouTube channels where sex experts teach men and women different ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:34 AM
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Honestly curious, how is this delusional? It aligns with my experience, and I think I'm more or less an "average woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:46 AM
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> Are they slaves?? In a surprising number of cases, without hyperbole, yes. Find a documentary about sex trafficking in the industry if you have the courage. Both professional and amateur porn is rife with it, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:36 AM
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I think this is the first time I've seen someone unironically suggest that watching porn teaches men how to be good at sex. Porn's job is not to teach anything, it's to make people (primarily men) horny by catering to their fantasies. All you will learn from it is what straight men's sexual fantasies are like. Nothing wrong with that, it serves its purpose, but don't confuse it with anything educational about how to sexually satisfy a woman. You're honestly better off reading smut if that's your…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:23 AM
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It says more about you than it does about women if you think women aren't capable of enjoying sex for its own sake with someone they're attracted to. Not only do I pay my own way in relationships, but I love to spoil my SO, friends, and family, because I work hard and make enough money to do so. Your view of reality is so skewed that it's scary. EDIT: Nvm, I just saw your comment history. With all due respect and human compassion you are sick, please talk to someone. Posting here obsessively deh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:11 AM
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Yeah, I basically agree with you. That's why I said I don't expect anyone outside the community to know or care about the difference. Someone commented with an inaccurate statement (that bisexuals don't bang trans ppl) in a tone that indicated they were curious so I corrected them, simple as that. You're free to skip reading anything that doesn't affect you. The last thing I would want is to distract in any way from your fight against climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:23 AM
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it's greatly amplified by the social media obsession around it, as it now became social status signalling in its own right (another part of attraction). I agree this is a factor that influences attraction more than most people realize, especially for women but for men as well. (Related hot take: As an average-size dick enjoyer, I'm convinced the "bigger is better" mentality among women has much more to do with the associations and status that society has assigned to it than it actually feeling m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:52 PM
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Agreed, we all have the capacity for self-deception. But what if our dating and sexual history actually reflects our stated preferences? Is that all just self-delusion, too? At what point are we "allowed" to know what we want? Because when I have the same kind of conversations with women I know irl about what we're attracted to, I know they're not lying because I can actually see who they're dating/swiping on/crushing on. And they're generally sharing these preferences so we can keep an eye out …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:03 PM
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Listen to this guy. He gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:26 AM
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Personal experience doesn't necessarily contradict averages or loose generalizations, but it does contradict blanket statements like "women are a hivemind" and "they're lying if they say otherwise" (both of which claims I've already seen in the comments here). If we can't share our experiences and perspectives without being told point blank that we're lying, then what's the point of even trying to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:19 AM
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OK, you're the boss
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:51 AM
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You're acting like a preference is the same thing as a dealbreaker. If you prefer blondes, you can still fall in love with a brunette and find them hot. If you prefer big boobs, you can still fall in love with someone who has small boobs and find them hot. Particularly if the compatibility is awesome in every other aspect that's more important to you than physical attributes. Honestly, I don't think "I'd rather avoid having too big of a height gap" is that unbelievable and absurd of a preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:40 AM
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Not sure what to say to that. Seems you're really invested in not believing it. I've had LTRs with 3 guys under 5'6" and one was 6'2". He pursued me. I literally don't understand the appeal of being with someone I have to crane my neck up to look at, stand on tippy-toes to kiss, etc. It was awkward. Seeing photos of us together made me feel like a child, even though I was the older one. Admittedly it was useful that he could reach high places, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:29 AM
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never heard a girl say I like him but he’s 6’2” and I just don’t like tall guys. You can hear me say it (and I've said it in this sub before): I prefer not to date tall guys. I'm 5'3". I've dated a guy once who was 6’2" (height was not an attracting factor; we were compatible in a lot of ways so I went with it) and the height difference was a bit of a pain. I prefer to date closer to my height. I've dated multiple guys the same exact height as me and liked that better. We can look into each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:04 AM
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I can't speak for other women here, but I'm here because I'm fascinated by the concept of gender and how so much of our experiences are shaped by it. Growing up, I was a nerdy loser kid. Most of my friends were guys, and my bullies were girls (including women in my family), so I developed openly misogynistic views at a young age, then in college I read The Game which influenced my views to be what we'd probably today call TRP or adjacent. As I got older and unpacked my biases, I realized that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:51 AM
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"You only agree with women, because any man you agree with is basically a woman because he's saying things you agree with"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:26 AM
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I have seen a lot of women thirsting over and agreeing with each other that they think bald men are hot, dad bods are hot, etc. in primarily female spaces where they don't have anyone to impress, so I believe them. Doesn't mean it's the general trend, but it's a significant enough minority for it to be a thing. I don't share these particular preferences myself, so I don't feel virtuous in pointing out they exist (though I do have other preferences that men here don't believe me about). We are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:22 AM
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You chimed into this conversation speculating that the difference between bi and pan is that bi people by definition "won't fuck trans people". I informed you that that's both a) incorrect, and b) has nothing to do with the difference between bi and pan. Your response is "well, most bi people probably wouldn't fuck trans people", which is a) arguable, b) irrelevant, and c) inconsistent with the definition of bisexuality you originally offered. To make things clear, the point I was trying to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:19 PM
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i don’t think you’d disagree that a majority of bisexual people wouldn’t want someone trans. Why are you so confident that I'd agree with this? I honestly don't know if that's the case or not because I haven't seen any surveys, but IME there are way more people in the bi community are open to dating trans people than in the general population. in which case you can consider bi-sexual to mean cis-gendered female or male only That's usually what straight people imagine it to mean, but I'm telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 12:31 PM
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Lol with democracy, any and all risks are on the table. Yes. Sorry to trot out a tired cliché, but Germany instituted fascism through democratic means. The catalysts seem to be a desperate economic situation + one or more convenient scapegoats + angry, uninformed voters + one megalomaniac willing to mislead them for personal gain by offering easy solutions and projecting a strongman persona
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:38 AM
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I think it could definitely happen in the US. Iran Awakening is a memoir by Shirin Ebadi, a Nobel peace prize winner and judge who was targeted by the regime for assassination for using her position to promote secularization and women's rights. She describes how the Revolution in the 1970s initially had huge popular support by people from all walks of life, including young, secular, and internationally-minded people such as herself (a law student in college at the time). Of course, it didn't sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:20 AM
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They're already flouting the 14th amendment by attempting to do away with birthright citizenship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:36 AM
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It's complicated, but since you brought it up... The range of people that bi and pan people can potentially feel attraction toward is the same (men, women, and non-binary) but for bi people the way we experience attraction and the traits we're attracted to are different for each gender we're attracted to. For pan people, potential dating pool is the same, but the only difference is that gender doesn't factor in at all into their attraction. It's a common (and understandable) misconception, but b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:19 AM
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This is exactly how I understand it. The range of people that bi and pan people can potentially feel attraction toward is the same (men, women, and enbys) but for bi people the way we experience attraction and the traits we're attracted to are different for each gender we're attracted to. However, I think the parent comment was just trying to make a "there are only 2 genders durr hurr" joke based on the misconception that bisexual means attracted to 2 genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:06 AM
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I read all the top-level comments. I wasn't "selecting" anything. Again, feel free to link to them if I missed anything. None of what you're saying is true. It's an invention of your own mind. You need to believe it so badly even though you have zero evidence for it. I would suggest showing this thread and your previous post to a therapist. Not a female therapist, since it's safe to say a woman's word doesn't mean much to you, and you'll find a way to feel victimized. Male therapists make it the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:30 AM
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I went through all the top-level comments in your post and didn't find a single woman saying that or anything close to it. The closest I found was a woman saying she disagreed, but confirming she lives in a deep red state and has met people like that. Which isn't anywhere close to what you're claiming the replies said. Would you care to link me to one? The more I talk to you, the more I feel like you're so set on reinforcing your worldview that you block out anything that disproves it and invent…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:33 AM
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I just know youre here on ppd, and are a female.... this means you dont see men as people The irony is rich with this one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:55 AM
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I've never said anything like that and never will. Feel free to check my comment history. I pride myself on my empathy, even with people who have different views than me, which is my I'm here. I'm not pro-women, I'm pro-human. You're the only one who hasn't been intellectually honest or open-minded here. Best of luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:53 AM
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I know 🙈 I've already spent hours of my life trying to reason honestly with these people that I'll never get back. Time for me to close the laptop, meet up with friends and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:14 AM
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You keep mischaracterizing everything I say, but I'm going to go on assuming for now that it's not intentional. Because if your claims were true, no woman would be able to demand a guy to “pay to play” or to spend on her. My argument is that there are plenty of women who demand this, and plenty of women who don't. What have I said to contradict this? You're misconstruing "plenty of women don't demand this" to mean "no women exist who demand this", which feels dishonest on your part. So if a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:50 AM
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Sorry, I have an OCD habit of making tons of small corrections/clarifications that and I know I shouldn't. I can promise you I'm not trying to hide or backtrack on anything. Any edits in particular you want me to address?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:43 AM
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Feminism begun with RICH, WHITE, BOURGEOISIE WOMEN! Yes, that is widely discussed and acknowledged in modern feminist discourse, and has been since at least the 90s. Again, that's what 3rd wave feminism attempts to address. Again, you're working off an outdated caricature. They didnt see any other race of women as fellow women, and sure they wanted voting rights for... "women" as in well, rich white women haha Yep, absolutely correct. any slur, and oppressive language you use Where have I used a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:40 AM
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If all of this is true then why are men rejected if they go 50/50? They are getting rejected by the women who don't want to go 50/50. There are plenty of women who do. I'm afraid I can't give much insight into the minds of those who don't, but you're by no means limited to them. Or why is it shunned for us to ask our fiance/wife to pay for her own engagement ring? That's one of the outdated expectations I think is unfair as a feminist, and I wish more women felt the same way. It's also the case …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:24 AM
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I looked up the first two, and they look conventionally hot but in a Las Vegas / Miami Beach sort of way. If the type of women you're pursuing is very obviously about the money and lifestyle, where a chance at even talking to them is "pay to play", then you know what you're signing up for. I'm not sure what about that makes you mad. The women in my circle are attractive, successful, fun, and in good shape, but we're not 10s, especially not if that's your type. If you want to take a girl to McDon…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:08 AM
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First of all, I've never talked about the "worth" of anyone, because I don't think of dating or even sex in those terms. Everyone is free to have their own boundaries, expectations, and dating strategies, whether they align with mine or not. So you agree, that if a man buys a woman a $12 chipotle bowl it means she’s a gold digger and owes him her body now? Literally, what? I don't understand the leaps of logic you made to get here. I believe in honesty and transparency, so as long as she's not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:46 AM
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Yes, it's like they're not reading and comprehending my responses at all, just scanning for more things to attack and confirm their views. Not sure why I keep engaging in good faith, but I've always been an optimist for better or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:22 AM
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Where did I mention having sex for a coffee? I pay for my own drink, so why would I need to sleep with someone for it? No, I don't think women are worth spending on any more than men are. I think first dates are for feeling out whether there's any chemistry and compatibility, not for demanding free stuff for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:19 AM
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Youre implying women do no wrong when you say youre a feminist, feminism is the ideology of "women not making mistakes" Not even close. This belongs on r/confidentlyincorrect There is a branch of feminism called TERFs that hates trans people, and there is mainstream feminism which vehemently rejects that and which is heavily focused on intersectionality, which actively de-centers women in positions of privilige. That's precisely what 3rd wave feminism is. It seems to me you're critiquing a caric…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:42 AM
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youre the one who says things like "women do no wrong, women do NOT make mistakes!" Point me to where I ever said that, or anything remotely like it? She told me, I would have to buy women a fucking car on the first date to be allowed to date Is your coworker Cardi B or something? That is fucking insane. No, that is not the general expectation of women to go on a date. Had another woman say a good idea would be to get a mail order bride and pay her an allowance I agree with you, that is rude. wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:03 AM
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I've never seen that either, on ppd or otherwise. Sounds like a sugar baby thing. I pay for my dates 50/50 (whether for a first date or a LTR), prefer coffee dates for a first date, and have never once been on a $500 date or had $10,000 spent on me in my life lol. Either you're surrounding yourself with materialistic people, or you don't meet women at all and are getting your info from an echo chamber online, because to confidently claim that every woman will agree with you is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:48 PM
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The same individual that got pregnant by "accident"? Yes...? Because it's their body, their health, and their life? We don't refuse treatment to chain smokers who give themselves lung cancer, or obese individuals who end up with diabetes. The job of our government and healthcare system is to prevent such disastrous consequences for the good of all, not to pass judgment on whether these people deserve it or not. To put it another way that might vibe with your judginess, should the same individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:16 PM
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I am not against abortion under certain circumstances but it should not be a default. Of course not. I think most reasonable people would be in agreement with you there. But I think it should be up to the individual to make that judgment, perhaps with the input of their family and medical provider. It's almost the most personal medical (and financial, and life) decision a person can make, and I don't think it's right for that choice to be imposed by government.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:21 PM
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Sometimes people don't know better, which is what we've been discussing. My sister was in the midst of a mental health episode. My mom was lied to by her "boyfriend", who it turns out was already engaged to someone, and who ghosted her after receiving the news. She was manipulated into keeping me out of religious guilt, which required her to drop out of college and raise me in poverty with public assistance. She was sure to remind me every day that my existence (though I had obviously never aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:26 PM
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We strive to make laws to the benefit of everyone by making accommodations for fringe cases, such as the rape/incest exceptions that are popularly supported even by many pro-lifers. And regardless of the reasons, I personally have trouble believing that forcing someone to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term (putting themselves in real medical danger) and then support that unwanted child for the next 18+ years at immense personal cost is to the benefit of anyone, really. I say this as one of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:04 PM
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Thank you <3
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:05 AM
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My younger sister got pregnant at 19 by having unprotected sex with a rando off Tinder during a manic episode before she was diagnosed bipolar. She also went on huge spending sprees, did drugs, was hearing voices, attempted suicide, and god knows what else. Once she got her diagnosis and found a medication that worked for her, she went back to the responsible, mature (for her age), loving and intelligent person we always knew her to be. She decided to keep the baby, and was overall a very loving…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:33 AM
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Excellent description. I'd also add that a lot of abusive men and women have a Jekyll and Hyde complex going on, where they're able to mess with your sense of reality by reverting to that sweet, loving, amazing person you fell in love with, acting (and maybe even feeling) genuinely remorseful, lovebombing you, and convincing you they're working on themselves and it won't happen again. You start to make excuses for them ("well, I was annoying him, so it's kind of my fault" "he's been really stres…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:31 PM
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Possibly. TBH I would consider myself demisexual, but then again I've seen a lot of people ridicule that and say "LMAO why is there a label for that, that's literally how everyone is, stop trying to be special" etc 🤷🏽‍♀️ Current working theory is that the majority of women fall somewhere in between my experience and the visually-driven, stereotypical male experience of attraction. But when men hear about any experiences similar to mine (even a less extreme version of it, such as "looks matter a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:31 AM
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I'm surprised, too. I would not be friends with anyone who cheats, and I would let their partner know even if it were my BFF cheating on someone I barely knew. I can't trust nor respect someone who's capable of betraying someone and lying to their face. They can deal with the consequences of their own shitty, selfish actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:04 AM
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Even if you do talk to these men that you don't instantly find physically attractive you won't ever consider them romantic prospects neither. How does that follow? When I think back to my LTRs, they were all with men whom I didn't instantly lust over at first glance (something which has very rarely, almost never happened with any man), but once we connected the chemistry was there and sparks were flying, and from that point on I was hooked. Obsessed. Utterly devoted. Only had eyes for him. So fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:07 PM
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So in their minds. Women are evil witless hypergamous harpies who will sucker a dude into a relationship because we were turned down by the mythical Chad figure. And this sucker dude will shower us with money for pity sex. And we will mistreat him like a little gimp because he has no spine. Don't forget, we're also going to cheat on them with Chad behind their back and pass off his baby as their own. We'd all do it if we could - it's basic biology! /s The way some of these men describe the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:26 PM
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I didn't know this. What are his criticisms of RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:03 PM
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I went with tricyclists
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:52 PM
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That's because the stakes for someone regretting an $8 beer purchase are low. Bartenders will refuse service if the customer is too wasted, planning to drive, etc, but otherwise it's not really on the bartender's conscience if someone ended up having one too many because they made a sale to someone who seemed functional enough. On the more extreme end of the spectrum, no reputable surgeon or tattoo artist would knowingly offer their services to someone who was visibly drunk. There's a higher lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:26 AM
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Yeah, the only logical response to OP's question is "because women are people". The fact that the question would even occur to him suggests that he struggles with this concept on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:05 PM
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That depends. What logical reasons are these people using to "justify them leaving their homes, risking their lives" to make them identify as "freedom fighters" in the first place, and why wouldn't this logic apply just because the oppressed people are women? ETA: You could ask "why should freedom fighters help oppressed people who don't speak English", "why should freedom fighters help oppressed people with disabilities", "why should freedom fighters help oppressed people over the age of 45", e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:54 PM
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Her baby daddy was doing manual labor which was also hard and physically dangerous, and which isn't an option for her or most women. What's your point? The fact that our desperation to survive puts us in dangerous positions in different ways isn't a win for either men or women. It's not something to be envied. To resent women for having this "option" instead of resenting the system that drives us all to these extremes in order to survive is a perfect example of the gender wars bullshit being use…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:53 AM
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At least in most parts of the US, these unskilled jobs do not pay anything near a living wage. I constantly see people on social media arguing against raising the minimum wage with the argument that unskilled cashier and fast food jobs are "meant for high schoolers to earn extra pocket money, not as a career". Never mind the fact that if the minimum wage had kept up with inflation since it was introduced, it should have been around $21.50 by 2020. My sister was making less than a third of that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:15 AM
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It's not that women are trading their bodies for dinner, so "indebted" is maybe not the right word. "Cautious to avoid accepting any favors that might be used against me later" is how I'd describe it. It's that when a man pays for dinner, whether it was expected or not, oftentimes HE will hold it over her head, and use it as leverage to start guilting and pressuring her. Early on in my dating career, I would take men's kindness at face value and humbly and gratefully accept their offers to pay f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:39 PM
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Did you just downvote me for engaging honestly with your argument but not agreeing with you? even cis gendered men who are left or liberal are skeptical of Feminism and these same cisgender men are skeptical of breaking down the gender binary. I don't think this is perceived broadly as being less radical or divisive than feminist issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:27 PM
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> breaking down all traditional gender norms > a greater emphasis on gender-queer issues Sounds great to me, but I don't see how this would be any more palatable or less alienating to conservatives/moderates who hate anything they perceive as "woke" or "radical leftist" or "shoving identity politics down our throats" or "attacking our traditional way of life". The Venn diagram overlap of people who are turned off by the focus on feminist issues but who would embrace the approach you've described…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:19 PM
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Whoa, you just blew my mind with this earth-shattering revelation. Next I suppose you'll be telling me that a straight man's dating experiences aren't identical to those of a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:58 AM
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Bro just saw Titanic for the first time and wrote this whole misogynist rant in outrage Perhaps women as a group have never been in a position of power like the men on the Titanic to dictate which gender and age group should go to safety first? You're acting like we've had countless opportunities to make this call and have actively chose not to out of pure selfishness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:11 AM
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It must be our fate as bisexuals (assuming from the flag in your avatar) to be ambassadors for the message that the bullshit is coming from both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:02 AM
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My thoughts exactly. I actually was feeling bad for him, until I quickly became annoyed with how smug and contemptuous he is in his delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:57 AM
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I know I'm probably an outlier, but I had a huge crush on Terence Tao when I was a student in college where he's a professor lol Jocks and men who get in fights never did a thing for me; if anything, I feel a slight contempt for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:19 AM
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MEN: We don't have the shallow high standards that women do. Literally all we ask for is to have a pulse and not be obese. ALSO MEN: Taylor Swift is mid and looks like a boy. Michelle Obama looks like a man. Kim Kardashian is too fake and plastic; she does nothing for me. Can someone please explain the appeal of Zendaya? etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:36 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:36 AM
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Published study Easier to read article
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:39 PM
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Libido depends on many things but especially hormones, which fluctuate with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:32 AM
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In terms of libido, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:03 AM
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Spain maintains the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, so "found to be innocent" is misleading when the only criterion is absence of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that they were guilty. And if your juvenile, agenda-driven reasoning didn't make me lose respect for you already, you would have definitely lost me at "feminist government in Spain". Are you seriously not even a little bit embarrassed to type things like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:01 AM
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> Im implying that i get only one side of the story about how he was abuser and she was a successful career woman who have done nothing wrong. > I want to know what made him to murder his wife with his bare hands. > Does that make me defend him? It makes you morally leaving it open to interpretation. Casting aspersions on whether she was a "successful career woman who have [sic] done nothing wrong" is implying that there exists one or more scenarios where she (and their unborn child) may have de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:57 AM
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> Im implying that i get only one side of the story about how he was abuser and she was a successful career woman who have done nothing wrong. Dude. He murdered his wife with his bare hands, while she was pregnant with his third child. You need to examine your biases if you think there is any scenario that could possibly make this defensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:08 AM
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And most of them have zero skincare routine, maybe a splash of water on their face before bed, and they'll only wear sunscreen mayyybe a couple times a year for hiking or the beach. I'm in my mid-late 30s and the attractiveness gap between people who have been taking care of themselves every day since their teens or 20s and those who haven't (and thus between many women and most men) is very noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:48 PM
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Exactly! No one here talks about this. I had an age gap relationship with an older guy when I was in college (we met on MySpace and he sort of catfished me about his age), but I was lowkey embarrassed about it. He met my friends once but never hung out with them because it would have felt fucking weird for everyone involved. We ended up breaking up because he didn't like me going to college parties, but it's not like he was able to go with me. I never dated a much older man after that because we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:28 PM
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I see how that makes sense. Thanks for explaining. I think we've been interpreting the hypothetical scenario differently because to me, "ideal partner" rules out anyone who is so objectively out of my league that I feel inherently suspicious or insecure about why they would ever want to be with me. So a conventionally gorgeous 10/10 movie star would not be my personal match made in heaven. Ideally I think I'd want someone similar or maybe 1 point above me in attractiveness, but the chemistry is …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:46 AM
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And I'm saying, you don't know how she feels about him now after the fact, you're just projecting your own insecurities. Isn't it at least worth a conversation before jumping straight to doomerism?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:54 PM
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If you weren't her type, she wouldn't be dating you either, by that logic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:24 AM
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Again, where are you assuming this from? If he did something to make her pussy shrivel up, she's not going to still be thinking of him, is my point. It doesn't matter how ripped someone is once that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:22 AM
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Where did you get big cock from? lol She might have dumped him because he's a flat earther, terrible in bed, violent, an addict, refused to wipe his ass, went to prison, she found child pr0n on his computer... there are tons of dealbreakers that can make you instantly lose all respect and physical attraction for a partner, that they may be able to hide for years before they come to light.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:28 PM
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Not at all. And you know basically nothing about him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:04 PM
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Or because people are really good at hiding their true nature as long as it benefits them. Men unknowingly date shitty women, too. Sometimes it takes awhile for the crazy to come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:54 PM
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The stubborn willful ignorance is just so incomprehensible to me, sometimes I need to rage lol. They have never spoken to a trans person, they have zero (0) gay friends, they lack the most basic understanding of why someone would require gender affirming care, and yet they come in here with this Dunning-Kruger "debate me bro" energy based on some outrage clickbait they came across, I guess 💀 My grandparents taught me that we have two ears and one mouth so we can listen twice as much as we speak,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:31 AM
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Not a single LGBTQ friend? Sounds like you live in quite a bubble. We are 7.6% of the US population, which is almost double the population of redheads. Funny that you still seem to be talking as if you're an expert, though :) not only do they regret transitioning Every medical procedure has a risk of regret. The risk for gender affirming care is actually very low compared to other medical treatments, so claiming "they regret transitioning" as a general blanket statement is pretty dishonest. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:14 AM
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You have pretty confident opinions around transitioning for someone who's never even talked to anyone who's undergone it before, and who by your own admission doesn't "get" their experiences. Do you have any openly gay friends? It may be instructive to ask them why they chose to come out, exposing themselves to ridicule, hatred, fear, possible ostracism, disappointment from family, prejudiced treatment, demeaning stereotypes, etc. etc. when it would be so much easier to live in the closet, wear …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:19 PM
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Have you never talked to trans people? I'd say it's not an easy life because of the bigotry they have to deal with, but it would be harder not to transition so they've decided it's worth the tradeoff. You could say the same about any openly queer person. And yes you doofus, they "properly function in society" and have jobs and families lol. Are you sure you're not confusing trans people fentanyl addicts, violent sociopaths, or unmedicated schizophrenics?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:46 PM
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That sounds similar to my family's situation, but on a more fucked up scale (my mom could be a callous bitch due to her BPD, but doesn't have ASPD, thank god). Dad had the sense to get out when I was 2 years old, after I intervened in one of their fights pleading "don't hit my daddy!" Living alone with her having primary custody was brutal, but I would never have wanted my dad to stay with her a day longer than he had to. Thanks to the time we spent with him every other weekend, we at least had …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:28 AM
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And getting married was a matter of survival at that time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:49 PM
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Foot Binding is when women would wrap some shit around their feet to make them smaller ... Did you even read the wiki article you linked? It was when little girls as young as 4 would have their feet broken and deformed, and bound tightly to the point where toes would fall off, making it excruciatingly painful to walk or take off the bandages for the rest of their lives. I'd say it's more along the lines of FGM than wearing a corset or shapewear. ETA: This post is honestly the most Dunning-Kruger…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:10 PM
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A vacancy rate of 5-10% is normal. So SF is only slightly outside that. I went with the lower figure, but it mentions in the article I linked that another organization has put it at 15%. If that figure is accurate, it's not "slightly outside normal", it's slightly over double the national average for US large cities. It’s normal for there to always be some unemployment because you cannot always instantly get a new job. As I mentioned (and as it explains in the same article), these are often unit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:25 AM
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12.7% of San Francisco housing was reported to be vacant in 2023. The issue isn't one of housing availability as much as it is one of housing affordability. Measures to develop more housing have been passed repeatedly and have repeatedly been shown to have no effect on the housing crisis because they are not affordable to people in insecure housing situations and not protected by rent control, etc. so they can have the rent raised by 20% and be pushed back out on the streets at any time with no …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 10:18 PM
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As a progressive woman in San Francisco who's been following online discussions on our upcoming local elections, I can assure you there are plenty of both NIMBY's and YIMBY's here. Interestingly, I've learned that the more leftist groups tend to support NIMBY policies because they want to extend rent control and other tenants' rights/protections that make existing housing more secure and affordable to working class people. A lot of new housing development proposals are pushed by real estate inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:26 AM
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I'm confused. In what romantic context has schizophrenia ever been considered "the right kind of mental illness"?? I imagine that's got to be one of the biggest dating disadvantages, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:01 AM
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There are comments further up speculating that only super masculine guys could get away with it. I could see there being an argument either way, but just thought it was funny to see these contradicting reasons on why opening up emotionally might work for other guys, but never for them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:57 AM
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How can you know these girls didn't have childhood trauma? Not everyone opens up easily about things like that. Obviously it's not going to be a 100% accurate predictor of what kind of relationships someone ends up in (nothing is), but childhood abuse absolutely primes people for toxic relationships as adults by 1) damaging their sense of self-worth, and 2) skewing their perspective of what they consider normal or tolerable behavior. Someone who consistently chases/falls into toxic relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:24 AM
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Yes, and self-absorbed parents who want to create a carbon copy of themselves are the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:41 PM
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Reading comprehension is dead, it seems. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:19 AM
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Yes, which is why I said there was a "2-3% bump" that year. Did you read my very short comment? I fail to see anything supporting your claim that it "skyrocketed", though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:37 PM
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It did not skyrocket, lol. Read the study I linked. There was a 2-3% bump for one year in 2021 (the only year it increased since 2008), and then it more than recovered the next year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:01 PM
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It's not that crazy lol. Plenty of people who were adults in the 70s are still alive today. You seem to have a habit of making confident statements without bothering to fact check, which damages your credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:53 PM
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Which women have this fantasy? 10/10 gold diggers who have never worked a day in their lives? That is such a tiny fraction of women, but to read this sub you would think that it's everyone. My fantasy is to find a reliable, loving life partner to challenge each other and grow with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:44 PM
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This is basically my brand of feminism. I don't want to be put on a pedestal. I want to be seen and treated as another human being. I want both men and women to have more self-respect and not chase validation from the opposite sex. I value my friends of all genders and want the best for them. I think everyone would benefit from adopting this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:39 PM
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There are probably very few, if any people on this sub whose parents got married in the 50s-60s (which would make them born during the Great Depression), so saying "that was a different time" is a disingenuous way to dismiss their parents' marital success. It's more likely that they were married in the 70-90s, when divorce rates were at their peak, at least in the US. A lot of people don't seem to realize that divorce rates have been steadily declining in this country since 2008, and are now at …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:10 PM
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That's quite explicitly not what they said at all. They gave a few examples in the format of "if he likes X, I do more of that. If he doesn't like Y, I do less of that". The point they were making is to foster a mindset of curiosity and experimentation, not to expect there to be a simple blueprint like "touching nipples is good sex". I do kind of hope you're trolling, because if your reading comprehension is really that poor, I'm sure the concept of reading a partner's body in bed will be lost o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:35 PM
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Stop being so dense. They were giving random examples of trying something and gauging your partner's response, amd adjusting accordingly. Your honing in on the nexk kissing and nipple touching is missing their point entirely. If your partner likes it and you make a mental note and keep playing with that, that's a quality of a good lover. If they don't respond (or worse, tense up/pull away) and you keep doing it because you learned somewhere that "kissing neck = good", that's a quality of a bad l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:15 PM
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This is the dumbest attempt at making a point I've ever seen. Are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:51 AM
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I agree, and to be clear, there are more significantly women than men in NYC overall (91.7 men for every 100 women), so that’s the reason there are so many more single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:48 AM
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What makes your environment any more "reality" than the most populous city in the US? Who else should we discount as not living in "reality" based on their geographical location?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:32 AM
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They asked for a link to verify your claim. I don't know how they could have rephrased this; I believe they were very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:01 AM
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I don't see that at all in their comment history. I do see them expressing concern over men's suicide, however I think we do too. I really hope more men learn that they deserve better and put up with less BS. Women can survive being hurt and confused but a lot of men are not surviving being lonely and depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:00 AM
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And single cat ladies. They love fantasizing about how miserable and lonely we must be lol As a single cat lady in my late 30s, I actually have a very fulfilling social life (and sex life, when I want one), tyvm... PLUS two sweet adorable cats on top of that, which is awesome
/r/ExRedPill24/09/24 02:56 AM
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It doesn't sound like you know very many high-income women. The ones in my circles seem to fall into one of two categories when it comes to dating: Like the majority of men and women statistically, they prefer to date within their own socioeconomic class. When one partner makes a bit more than the other, the lesser earning partner (whichever it is) contributes in other ways to make up for it. They strike a balance that makes sense for their partnership, and that balance adjusts over time as life…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:48 PM
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I mean, he can work hard and accomplish interesting things in his life to prove himself to himself, and what anyone else things is a byproduct of that. I find that the opposite of boring
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:56 PM
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You can have "common values, honor and character" and still not have a relationship work out. I would say my LTRs all had those traits, as do I. You also have to learn about yourself, do deep work to confront your weaknesses, and be constantly growing both as an individual and as a partner. Everyone in a successful marriage says the same thing, that it takes a lot of hard work. You can't just coast along, even if you're the most compatible couple with the best integrity ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:51 PM
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This is great advice. There's something irresistibly magnetic about a guy who doesn't feel like he has to to prove himself to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:31 PM
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I'm a software engineer (who isn't a natural at it and finds it hard) and I would actually say the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:24 PM
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"sure, he's not the best I had but..." She never said this. You just quoted what she actually said in your previous comment, and it wasn't this. I’ve had good sex with other people, sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:50 PM
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Are you implying that women's behavior on the dating market should be regulated? The only way you can't be held accountable for your choices is by not having a choice at all So what's your solution? Take the option of a choice away from women? That's not what I implied anywhere, and this is such braindead logic and such a weird reach that I have a hard time believing you wrote it in good faith. My solution is for abusers to be held accountable, and potential victims to be educated on the warning…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:52 AM
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You're blaming a 15 year old for her own statutory rape. "You chose him", "Have some accountability"... are you fr?? Have you met a 15 year old?? You claim it's the fault of women and girls for getting taken in by "degenerates", not of these guys for being degenerates in the first place... and yet you want to talk about accountability? It was always obvious he was a degenerate In the case of a drug dealer and a child predator, that's probably true to most of us who grew up with healthy role mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:49 AM
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Wouldn't men rather have that, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:21 PM
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Good thing literally none of the comments are arguing that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:15 PM
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They edited their comment to something completely different before you replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:32 AM
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I've seen the first opinion a lot (and agree with it myself), but who has ever said the second one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:34 AM
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Exactly. Isn't this a redpill perspective more than anything else? I've literally never seen a feminist make that kind of argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:29 AM
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Fair enough, wasn't aware of the song
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:49 PM
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Me. I'm 5'3" and almost every guy I dated in my 20s was 5'6" or shorter. I prefer them closer to my height than tall. (Btw unrelated, but your flair is an awkward literal translation that I assume is supposed to mean "evil pill" or something, but sounds more like "expired medicine" or "medicine that doesn't work")
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:31 PM
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So? "Haha, you're caring for a creature that I find ugly" still only makes the one saying it look bad. To put it in PPD terms, does that make it undeserving of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:58 PM
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Haha, true. Someone needs to develop a less surgical-looking alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:45 PM
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That's condescending, but not a personal attack on your (or a loved one's) appearance. It was gross of you to take it there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:42 PM
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The ol' poophole loophole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:51 PM
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What do her and her cat's physical characteristics that are outside of their control have to do with anything? That statement reflects a lot more poorly on you than it does on her or her cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:49 PM
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Honestly, people should be using condoms and dentals dams for oral sex with hookups the same way we use condoms for penetrative sex. I have to admit that I've never had the courage or desire to suggest it because I've never seen or heard of anyone else using them for that purpose, so I feel foolish about it and it's easier to handwave it away as less important. But there was a time when using condoms for penetrative sex wasn't a cultural norm either, and it's very commonplace to insist on one no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:43 PM
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Having opposite gender friends can open the door to shenanigans. By that logic, since I'm bi I shouldn't be allowed any friends? 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:51 PM
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My sister who shares my same childhood trauma committed suicide 3 weeks ago, leaving behind two kids under the age of 4. I guarantee you her alcoholic ex/baby daddy who abandoned her during both pregnancies (after love bombing and promising to change after every time he cheated or disappeared) was not empathetic, despite having crazy childhood trauma himself. I know this because he left her phone unlocked and I spent days reading through all their message history, and the horror is still very fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:22 AM
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I'm sorry that's been your experience, but those are a lot of confident blanket statements. I'm one of those women, and I've been in relationships more often than not with men who also have some degree of childhood trauma, so I'm inclined to disagree with you. In fact, I appreciate the way we can relate and empathize with each other, and I feel like a bit of an alien around people (including friends and regardless of gender) who don't have the experience to relate to what I've been through and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:18 PM
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I look for general indicators of emotional intelligence (or at least signs that they value and are curious about people's emotions, in case they're ND and struggle with that) because it suggests they are probably less likely to shrink from examining their own emotional complexities. I also look for positive indicators of being real, authentic, and relatable. Are they comfortable laughing at themselves and looking silly sometimes? If they seem more ruled by a desire to avoid judgment or be seen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:05 AM
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1) The comment you're responding to says meaningful, not cherished 2) This is just an example of a hypothetical realization; the details don't really make much difference to the substance of their argument
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:48 AM
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You realize there is roughly the same number of women as men in the world, right? So if women are all going for the top 20% of men and won't settle for less, then how are almost none of them single according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:32 AM
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basically all the women were in relationships Women demand perfection of men Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:31 AM
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savage, but no lies detected (as a single 38F)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:24 AM
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First of all, there's no need to be so combative. I'm just having a discussion and presenting my thoughts. You don't think psychology being a field dominated by women leads to bias against men's problems? You asked for studies (while still providing none of your own, I might point out), and I included 3 academic articles indicating that the research, publishing, and professor roles are currently dominated by men. These are the positions that have far more influence over the direction of the fiel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:45 AM
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You don't provide any studies to back up your claims, and then you demand studies from me to debunk them. Clever. Psychology started out as an exclusively male-dominated field, and remained that way for much of its history, until the 1970-80s when women started to outnumber men in earning bachelor degrees. It's easy to surmise why women entering the workforce for the first time in such large numbers would gravitate toward this field (in comparison with the hard sciences, for example): caretaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:39 PM
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Hey I dont do slave labor, I will just run away first chance I get. Amazing, you can just run away? How come no one else has ever tried that? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:59 PM
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Ah yes, the post where I was told by a commenter that being sexualized since age 10 by trusted adult men (included repeated molestation from age 12) has "nothing but advantages" because at least I knew what it was to be considered attractive without trying 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:15 PM
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Exactly! You explain it so well. It means to treat people as people first. Extend the same baseline level of decency, curiosity, and empathy to all people regardless of their gender or fuckability. I stg so many men think of women only as side characters or NPCs who only exist to move the male protagonist's plot forward
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:00 AM
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Yeah, you don't get it. You just basically told a CSA victim that she's lucky because at least it's better than being unattractive (which again, I have also been). You also stated that glamorizing my childhood sexual abuse was "equally fucked up" to me telling someone to work on their attractiveness (which again, I have also done, as pretty much everyone has to some degree). I took a chance opening up about something incredibly vulnerable because I thought my experiences might provide some valua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:25 PM
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Who is stopping men from receiving mental health services?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:33 AM
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How much "real fucking work" did you have to "put in" until you were first considered sexually attractive by a man? That's kind of a fucked up question to ask, tbh. The first time I recognized that I was being sexualized by an adult was by my violin teacher at age 10 or 11. Then within the next few years I was repeatedly SA'd by a family member, so I put in work to make myself unattractive to predators. Everywhere I went since my pre-teens, I felt grown men's eyes on me, and not in a flattering …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:11 PM
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What exactly is your point? I have hot friends who don't have to try, too. It's just like anything else in life -- be it money, health, intelligence, charisma -- where some people are born blessed with an unfair advantage and the rest of us have to put in real fucking work to achieve a fraction of that. Do you stop investing in your career because your friend was born a millionaire who will never have to work and life isn't fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:35 PM
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Unironically, and to oversimplify a nuanced topic with a lot of grey area, pretty much. In the discussions I see online about age gap relationships, I don't think anyone cares when old dudes fuck someone in their late 20s. Some people (my impression is the majority of women and some smaller number of men) might side-eye it and think it's a bit weird or gross while ultimately recognizing they're both consenting adults, but I don't see it being treated as morally dubious or outrageous the same way…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:49 PM
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He's talking like being a social media personality is the modern equivalent of being a viking warrior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:41 AM
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I'm a single 38F without children who is extremely cautious about the idea of dating a single dad, but open to it if the circumstances are right (healthy relationship with the kids and ex, a good dad who pulls his weight, etc) None of the assumptions made in the OP are true in my opinion or experience. The childless person isn’t gonna understand the life the single parent leads I have close friends and a sibling who are single parents. I was raised by a single mom for much of my childhood. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:59 AM
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I see. That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:34 PM
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Not debating that. I'm just responding to the statement that Having sports cars and a big house would make anyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:31 AM
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I'm a Marxist who literally grew up in poverty, but thanks for the lecture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:38 AM
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If only they had sports cars and mansions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:36 AM
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As a quasi-antisocial loner myself, I'm reading a lot of cope here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:15 AM
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Yeah, that's why celebrities who attain those things are so much less likely to have mental breakdowns or develop substance dependency issues
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:12 AM
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How many guys in your social circle are cheating on their spouses? Wouldn't you rather try to surround yourself with people of integrity who are trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:58 PM
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Depression is severely underdiagnosed in men, in part because they are less likely to seek out mental health professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:15 PM
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"genetical" 🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:09 PM
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A lot of the RP descriptions of women read like the kind of spoiled delusional princess caricature you'd see on Jerry Springer, clickbait headlines, or scripted reality TV. Like how many men posting here have actually had a $10k gold diamond ring demanded of them, and how many years' worth of red flags did they have to ignore to get to that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:47 AM
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There are more overweight and obese men than women in the US, but "severe obesity" is more likely to be found in women. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:29 AM
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Same thing happens to women with Ugly Duckling Syndrome. Makes it kind of hard to trust anyone who's nice to you... although the benefits of pretty privilege / halo effect more than make up for it so I'm not complaining or saying I'd go back; it just damages my faith in humanity to know that most of these people would have spat on me if were still considered unattractive in terms of looks and social skills. I have a ton of empathy for anyone in that boat, regardless of gender, but I would bet th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:20 AM
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If a man is not attracting matches, then by definition he is not attractive, however you and other (presumably) straight men might feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:27 AM
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Sounds like you figured out that anyone who's middle-aged and going after barely legal adults is probably a predator with control issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:17 PM
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I'm a medium-light skinned Middle Eastern woman with dark, fairly dense hair. Until I got lasered around age 28-31 (no one talks about how the full treatment takes years), a morning shave of my legs, pits, and pubes would not even last me a full day, let alone 3 days lmao. By evening I would have a full-body 5 o'clock shadow. It was itchy, painful, unsightly (hard to completely avoid razor bumps and ingrowns, especially with curly hair), and humiliating. In summer I was afraid to wear shorts or …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:35 PM
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Also, prenups exist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:51 PM
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There are species of bear that are native to China, but Grizzly bears are only in North America. Sorry, I'm not sure what you're getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:48 AM
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Koala is bear only in name Same goes for panda "bears", which are actually more closely related to raccoons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:09 PM
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It also includes men convincing/lying/tricking women to mate with them, or environmental factors that force women to mate with some men they may not find attractive as they don’t have any other options, etc. Fair Going even further, at the end of the day, free will is an illusion, we are all complex gene machines following the laws of physics and nature. What we think as a “choice” is just physics manifesting itself. I don't think that makes much difference to the spirit of OP's question, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:19 PM
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What do you think sexual selection is, if not women deciding who to mate with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:00 AM
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The nuclear family is a social construct that originates pretty recently in Western societies (somewhere in the 19th or 20th century, IIRC) and is a consequence of mass urbanization. Most societies around the world and throughout the vast majority of human history have been based on multigenerational extended families.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:27 AM
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Because the title of the post is "What do you think about passport bros?" so she gave her perspective. It was one line explaining that she doesn't care because it doesn't affect her, which is a perfectly valid response.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:53 PM
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?? She's basically saying live and let live, you do you boo, which is probably the least salty possible take on the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:12 PM
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Making his young daughter not feel uncomfortable walking into a room full of men peeing in the open, perhaps? And I've never seen or heard of women getting upset over a man accompanying his young daughter using the women's restroom. We bring our young sons in their too, so it's pretty normal to us to think of it as "women + mixed gender parents and kids". Plus, I often see men complaining that women's restrooms are usually the only ones with a diaper changing station, so I imagine that's probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:21 AM
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Just because some women might scope out a guy's bulge while he's fully clothed (the same way a man might dart his eyes down before catching himself if he's talking to a woman with visible cameltoe or nipples poking through her shirt) doesn't mean we're in the bathrooms craning our necks at a really obvious and awkward angle to try and get the briefest glimpse of a segment of flesh from the side of a flaccid dick while urine is actively streaming out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:12 AM
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Was there a corresponding study of men's daily self-reported food intake? I suspect this specific example is more of a general human nature thing. There is an entire dieting strategy based on journaling your regular food intake without trying to make other any changes. I keep hearing about how people report weight loss just from employing this habit, and how surprised they are to see the disconnect between how they thought they were eating and how they were actually eating, but I've never seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:20 AM
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I used to assume this was the case, but it doesn't really pan out that way. IME nice guys who feel like they are "dating up" with you lookswise are often quick to self-sabotage and exhibit controlling, belittling behavior because they can't handle the insecurity. I'm the type to only have eyes for the man I'm with and to lavish compliments and love, so I never gave them any reason to feel insecure or distrust me. They would recognize that I wasn't doing anything wrong and it was all their own pe…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 01:23 AM
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probably written by men anyway Exactly, not only is it a work of fiction, but you don't need to check IMDB to guess that the writers, directors, and casting directors are not a group of women portraying their values and perspectives on gender dynamics (and yet I did check anyway, and it was like 95+% male names: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369179/fullcredits) It's a circle jerk of men producing media that reflects the world based on what we're shown in media that was also created by men. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:34 PM
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"Outliers. Virtue signalers." Or my favorite, once you show them studies that confirm your anecdotal experience: "Women are experts at lying to themselves. What they think they want is rarely in line with what they actually want subconsciously. Even on anonymous surveys they'll lie because they want to think of themselves a certain way" So not only are we lying when we say something that doesn't line up with their narrative, but we're lying about lying, and then lying to ourselves about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:10 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. I think we're on the same page with everything you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:58 AM
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Yes, I am. I thought my last paragraph communicated that, but I guess I could have been clearer Right, which is why I am vocal about the topic and encourage women to examine the part they might be playing in this What does this mean? 4-5. These don't apply to me (see #1)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:22 AM
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I would say the opposite, actually. In the bigger camp I was giving words (making jokes and giving compliments that cast it in a positive light), while in the 5.5 camp I give actions (actively seeking out and enjoying sex with a size that feels best for me, while avoiding it when the size is too big). I realized the words were reinforcing a harmful narrative about a decade or two ago, which is why I've adjusted accordingly and push back now (and type paragraphs about my honest thoughts and exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 10:09 PM
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Whether we realize it or not, apparently. Thank God we have the government to protect us from our own decisions so that more women will be able to unlock their hidden breeding kink!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:35 PM
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Not that many. It’s a tiny percentage of people who are sexually attracted to children. And you mean they start receiving sexual attention when puberty starts? Well yeah, that’s the whole point of puberty. I remember at 10 years old the pain and awkwardness of my breast buds starting to grow in, and how men of various ages including trusted family friends would openly fixate on my (clothed) chest. I was a small child, always the smallest in my class, and I still played with Barbies and slept wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:24 PM
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Nobody sexualises young girls chests Apparently OP is under the impression that taking a photo of a shirtless young girl would put you in possession of child porn, so either society is sexualizing it or he is. I didn't care to fact check my local laws because 1) I don't care to be put on a watchlist and 2) I was SA'd by a grown man as a kid so the whole topic makes me feel sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:11 PM
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Nah, it's clear that the average age for women's first marriage has increased since 1990, and that technology has increased the accessibility of discreet hookups at a moment's notice, so your overall point about the numbers most likely being higher today is valid. I just thought it was funny how you described the 90s using terms like "more moral", "less degenerate", "slut shaming was in full effect", and contrasted it with the present day with our sex positivity and birth control pills and femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 10:49 AM
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You're not Chad, so women fuck you secretly hoping it will lead to a committed relationship with you? Sounds like you're not doing too bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:06 AM
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Ah yes, the famously puritanical and chaste era of Sex and the City, gangsta rap, Howard Stern, Jerry Springer, and Craigslist "casual encounters". Hell, even the characters in Friends and Seinfeld were all total sluts, and I used to watch that shit with my Christian mom like it was wholesome family fun 💀 I assume he must be talking about the 1890s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:01 AM
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Uh yeah, why not? You're being sarcastic, but they both sound like equally plausible scenarios to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:38 AM
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Wait till he finds out about the absolute degenerates who party on week nights!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:27 AM
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??? lol if you think having potentially no recourse in the case of an unwanted or even life-threatening pregnancy wouldn't affect women's decisions regarding who and how often to have casual sex. If anything she'll think about getting pregnant and then get even more turned on. I hope you're trolling. What a disgusting thing to say about women losing their rights over our own bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:21 AM
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"Checkmate, libtards!" /s Pretending for a minute that there's an interesting or coherent point to be made here... I would say this points to our hypocrisy as a society in sexualizing young girls' chests
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:46 AM
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No one is asking you to wear a "shiny watch" in order to get to know you lmao. If you're so worried about overinvesting in first dates and being seen for your money instead of for who you really are, then maybe your "advice for not getting screwed over" should be to not have your first dates at Michelin star restaurants while dressed in a way that ostentatiously flaunts your wealth? Maybe a down-to-earth coffee date where you respectfully communicate to her (not "demand") that you prefer splitti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:48 AM
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I definitely agree about porn being a factor. In Japan, I noticed that male porn stars are mostly expected to be relatable rather than aspirational, so you see a lot of videos shot from the POV of average sized, average looking guys. I also think the public bathing culture (which is fully nude and not separated by gender until around puberty) contributes to a more realistic view of "average" and a healthy acceptance of diversity, whereas in the US most of us only have porn as a basis for compari…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:17 PM
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I'm really sorry about women who are like this. I and others try to call out this kind of behavior when we see it, but you're right that it's way too normalized. We can't be complaining about the lack of attention given to men's mental health and then dehumanizing them in the same breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:59 PM
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Real talk, just purely speaking for myself, I am one of the women you're describing. I genuinely prefer 5.5 inches over 7 inches, it's the perfect size to me. I honestly hate having to be overly cautious and slow during sex, not being able to let go and lose myself in the moment, and feeling in pain for a day afterwards. If I'm being honest with myself, it takes quite a bit of the enjoyment out of sex for me. But even if my guy is a little larger than I'd prefer, I still would almost instinctive…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:38 PM
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I'm a non-Asian women who has been in LTRs with a few Asian men, and I got those questions/comments a lot, but almost always from men (non-Asian men, obviously) who I guess felt their egos threatened by seeing me with someone they felt shouldn't be seen as sexually desirable. They would think they were seriously clever, sneering "oh, so you like small dicks?" as if that would make me dump my boyfriend on the spot and fly into their arms. My go-to response in this scenario was "not really, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:13 PM
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Most men's feet/toes. Anyone who walks with their legs wide apart. It makes them look like a duck or like they're wearing a full diaper. I also really get turned off by bad posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:33 PM
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As for your claim that women will start looking like men...are you trolling? But "we've all seen the Madame in the Brothel". How could you argue with that logic?? 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:47 PM
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Regardless, at least you've learned something new. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:56 PM
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Do any men actually ever put up with you? Men and women, in fact :) How about the word nag? You asked about the meaning of a word, I love words so I tried my best to comment a thoughtful reply, you got offended somehow (I'm assuming you were embarrassed that you misunderstood the meaning of a common word, and assumed I was judging you even though I wasn't at all) so you doubled down on your definition that no one uses, deflecting with ad hominems that didn't make sense, and I've only responded t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:12 PM
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Words have to have broadly agreed-upon meanings in order for them to make sense to other people. You seemed confused about the other commenter's use of the word, so I took a shot at explaining how I've always consistently seen it used (eta: Mirriam-Webster and Urban Dictionary don't list your definition either, so maybe take it up with them) or just semantics ? Semantics is the study of the meaning of words, so I'm not sure what you're trying to ask here. Yes, you and I are currently discussing …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:15 AM
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native speakers of the English language
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:37 AM
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That's not the usual definition. Most people use it to mean working, studying, or leveling a character with all their focus and intensity to the exclusion of almost anything else. It implies a marathon of torturous, repetitive labor for little to no immediate reward that requires a special kind of hustle and self-discipline to get through. Think of the phrases "nose to the grindstone" or "the daily grind"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:20 AM
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Would love to see you quantify this "rationally and objectively"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:09 AM
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AKSHULLY WoW characters don't have a charisma attribute. Elder Scrolls or D&D would have been better examples. You're not getting anywhere near a pussy with that kind of ignorance! 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:00 AM
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I skipped through the video, and as far as I can tell she's basically saying to be upfront about your intentions from day one, don't feel bad about asking for what you want, and that you deserve it. It's a super entitled mindset sprinkled in with some "manifestation" bs, but I didn't detect anything manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:42 AM
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I just scrolled through most of the 157 comments and didn't find anything. Maybe update the post if you've added some new info buried in the comments and want people to stop asking you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:01 AM
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How are you trying to have a "debate" when you aren't willing to back up the claim you're basing your whole argument on? > find it or prove me otherwise In other words, "I refuse to provide any credible sources for my claim, please find them for me yourself, otherwise I'm right by default unless you prove me wrong". You can't ask someone to prove a null hypothesis, dude. If you really are an engineer with this kind of elementary school logical reasoning, your university did you a grave disservic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:39 AM
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Besides, nobody can list evidence to the contrary saying I'm wrong How did you get a STEM degree without understanding how the burden of proof works?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:22 AM
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Damn, I feel for that former fiance. Good luck letting yourself to trust or get close to anyone after that. I try to surround myself with people of integrity, whether in friends or above all in a potential partner. I find it disrespectful and a huge turn-off when someone tries to hit on me knowing I'm in a monogamous relationship. It tells me that 1) you think of me as someone who might be disloyal and deceitful, and 2) you're probably okay being disloyal and deceitful in your own relationships.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:05 AM
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Damn, I feel for that former fiance. Good luck letting yourself to trust or get close to anyone after that. I find it incredibly disrespectful and frustrating when someone tries to hit on me knowing I'm in a monogamous relationship. It tells me that 1) you think of me as someone who might be disloyal and deceitful, and 2) you're probably okay being disloyal and deceitful in your own relationships. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:21 PM
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There we have it ladies and gentlemen, the most terminally online cope ever to exist. "I know all there is to know about women because I've read studies!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:20 AM
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It’s like trying to learn Spanish purely from reading it and having no idea what the language actually sounds like. Exactly this. I'm a huge language nerd, and I used to run a language school. My own experience and those of my students taught me quickly that you can study a language for 8 years in an academic setting, even earn degrees and certifications in it, master all the conjugations, write papers on linguistic phenomena that most native speakers will never have heard about... and be easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:10 AM
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Agree to disagree, I guess (What do you have against GameStop employees?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:36 PM
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There's a world of gray area between "charismatic" and "boring basement dweller working at GameStop". I wouldn't put him in either of those categories. He's intensely awkward and uncomfortable in interviews, but still likeable, and extremely good at acting. What's so hard to understand about that? Would you describe Michael Cena or Nicholas Cage as charismatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:29 PM
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That's... not what charisma means
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:05 PM
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I've never heard him described as charismatic. He's kind of known for being awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:19 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 Please, tell us more
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:53 PM
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(For reference, I'm 5'3" / 161 cm) I didn't know height was an issue until I dated what I'd consider short men (5'3" - 5'5") and even what I'd consider average height men (5'6" - 5'8") and got a front row seat to how much insecurity they had around it. The insecurity would affect the relationship even though I couldn't give less of a damn about their height (or wouldn't even have considered them short in some cases). But the discrimination is real, and I think it comes from other men as much as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:35 PM
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I do empathize with people in that situation more than you might think. Life can be seriously unfair. However, my point is that I see a lot of men (like the parent comment) put the blame for their loneliness entirely on women, while in the same breath stating that platonic friendships have no value for them if they won't lead to sex. To me, it seems obvious that cultivating genuine platonic relationships with people of all genders would benefit them in so many ways: 1) would counteract a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:32 PM
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I have plenty of single men in my social circles who are platonic and who are not in competition with each other (they hang out 1:1, etc) How are so many straight men blaming women for a "loneliness epidemic" when they see women only as potential romantic/sex partners, other men only as competition, and don't see any value in having genuine friendships unless they have some ulterior agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:19 AM
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Finally someone said it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:01 PM
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The vast majority of those shitty people being women. Gonna need a source for that So all these women out there with relationship "baggage" that men in this sub are so turned off by... That comes from where? Their platonic female friends? You're demonizing half the human population so you can justify having no morals. At least be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:07 AM
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Therapy is just as expensive for the women they're out trying to traumatize
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:27 AM
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Women always do that. Shitty people sometimes do that. Are you and OP advocating being a manipulative, shitty person because... other shitty people exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:17 AM
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I believe what you're saying, but these friends sounds like actual sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:59 AM
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Right. So from your own description it sounds like it's "people from certain small US towns where football is extremely popular" who are kind of a hivemind, not "women"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:38 PM
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Women are kind of a hivemind and want you to like music that's popular, movies that are popular, etc. ​ my hobbies are nerdy and not common especially where I live which is the type of place where football is extremely popular ​ Sounds like the problem is that you live somewhere that's not friendly to nerdy interests, not that "women are a hivemind". I met my current bf at a bar, but it was when we realized we were both into Magic: The Gathering that we exchanged numbers and planned our first da…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:00 PM
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Thanks. Happy to help
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:33 PM
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cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:49 AM
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If he has an avoidant attachment style, that can result from childhood abuse or neglect. Some men (and women) always do the dumping because it feels dangerous to get close to anyone so they self-sabotage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:08 AM
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It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, like the "men will do anything other than go to therapy" meme. Really, it's hard to take your questions seriously because you're basically asking "do women ever work to improve themselves as people and enhance their datability?" Like no, we just spend our days wallowing in pig shit playing Candy Crush and scamming Tinder matches for free meals until Prince Charming comes along. My real answer would be what the other person said about investing in their appeara…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:40 AM
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I used to believe that when I was in my 20s, but how should I have "found the right guy" with so little relationship experience, when I barely even knew myself yet? I ended up in a few 3-4 year LTRs where although they were great guys and I'm grateful for the years we had together, we just ended up not being compatible as life partners, and I'm so thankful I didn't end up marrying any of them because neither of us would have been happy in the long run. If dating in your 30s as a woman is hard, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:44 AM
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If they're "drifting away" after starting a family, you didn't have any real friends to begin with. I hang out with my friends and their kids all the time (and I'm godmother to one of them)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:13 AM
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Oh then I'd love to hear what she did to improve. Therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:06 AM
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It's not doing yourself any favors as the women in the scenario, either. Manipulating a partner who doesn't want to commit into pacifying you with a "shut up ring" just so you don't have to face being single at (god forbid!) 30 isn't exactly a recipe for happily ever after
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:58 AM
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Like women don't really make sacrifices towards men in these cases. Men are 6 times more likely to leave their wife after she was diagnosed with cancer or MS than women are to leave their husband after the same diagnosis. It seems insanely out of touch to claim that women don't make sacrifices for their partner as much as men do. ​ And secondly, so many girls hate their ex's and would love to screw them over Ever heard of revenge porn? Stalking and intimidating an ex so that she's afraid to leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:59 PM
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Haven't you read your Bible? You're supposed to trade your goats for the virgin, not give them to her. What kind of trad man are you??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:34 AM
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Haven't you read your Bible? You're supposed to trade your goats for the virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:31 AM
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For me it's also 3, because looks change and fade, but an awesome life partner who will always have your back, with whom you have great communication and conflict resolution, who shares your sense of humor and outlook on life, who challenges you to grow and never stops working on himself... that kind of relationship chemistry is everything. But if I can't find that, I wouldn't feel bad at all about 1 - being the world's best aunt, godmother, and rescue animal parent, with enough disposable incom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:16 AM
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Would you rather end up 1) single, 2) married to someone hot but with an incompatible personality/values, or 3) married to a decent woman who you're not physically attracted to? Because this sub likes to argue that the female hivemind is only physically attracted to the same top 20% of men, which would mean the vast majority of women will end up having to choose between these 3 options, but you seem to be critical of all 3. So what's the morally "consistent" choice in your eyes? If you want to "…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:49 PM
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They demand women lower their standards and then feel victimized by the ones that do (in their eyes)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:43 PM
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Let me put it this way. Can you link me to any studies or expert opinions that correlates the rise in Japanese men who opt out of relationships to a rise in the sex work industry? Because every study or expert opinion I've ever read cites financial factors, lack of social support for families, and sex discrimination in the workplace. That doesn't answer my question. I thought we agreed that it's culturally taboo in Japan. In either country, men have the option to hire a sex worker discreetly any…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:22 PM
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Sorry, I'm not sure I'm following. - If 42% of Japanese men ages 18-34 in 2016 were virgins (up 6% from 2010), how does that indicate that they're leveraging sex workers as a way to opt out of dating and relationships? - What leverage do women have that men don't have in the US? - What is stopping men in the US from using sex workers to opt out of the dating game the way you claim Japanese men are, given that we've agreed the social stigma exists in both countries, and men in the US can still fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:38 PM
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Not nearly to the same degree. Only one of these countries has a word in the language for "death by overwork". Probably every article I've read on the topic (in either language) points to the work culture as the biggest factor in the declining birthrate. Like I said, many of these men remain virgins, so I don't think sex for hire is something that's replacing the need for relationships to any significant degree. Women also have their own services in the form of "host clubs", which is where they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:22 PM
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Thanks for sharing! This is interesting, although never having been in a relationship is not the same as opting out of relationships. Same goes for opting out of marriage. What I'm reading in the chart at the bottom is men saying "I can't afford to get married and support an entire household" and women saying "I don't want to throw away my career and lose my identity to become a SAHM". If Japanese work culture were less crazy demanding and more supportive of families and women, I wonder how many…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:52 PM
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Yes. Not to the point where you're faking your whole personality, but you should probably strive to present your authentic self in a manner that's more relatable and accessible to NTs, if that makes sense, and continue to open up little by little over time as trust is built. It's a narrow tightrope that every struggles to walk to some degree when making first impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:57 AM
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Right, like just because people were capitalizing on it doesn't mean women's mental health was taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:22 AM
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I wouldn't say women have less leverage because of prostitution, though. In the dating game they still hold all the cards we do in the US, and can afford to keep their standards as high. If anything, they have less leverage when mistreated in a marriage due to the higher stigma against divorce and the cultural value of carrying your burdens in silence. Which obviously can cut both ways, but tends to hurt women more because they're more often expected to give up their careers for their marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:17 AM
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It is, or was at one point, fairly acceptable practice for married men to engage in. Sure, but maybe more WW2 era? There was/is a sense among some people in my friends' grandparents' generation that it was something inevitable that women just had to put up with. On the whole, probably not too different from American housewives in the 1950s if their husbands were having affairs. Compared to the US I feel there's a bit more "trickle down" of this mindset to younger generations, but I definitely do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:10 AM
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It literally means "soft type", which is an interesting contrast to Chad fucking around and that making him the aspirational pinnacle of manliness in the West :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:53 AM
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I'm fluent in Japanese and lived in Japan for 8 years, both in Tokyo (eta: a 15 minute walk from the biggest redlight district in the country) and in a remote rural town. My workplace, friends, and relationships were all with Japanese people, and I was often mistaken for a local myself, so I was very well-integrated. I consider it my second home. I see this kind of argument often from non-Asian guys who visit Japan as sex tourists and frankly don't know what they're talking about, and then they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:16 PM
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No hate, but you sound like you lack life experience and are going off black-and-white stereotypes of men being all about NSA sex and hating romantic commitment. If you think simping for occasional breadcrumbs of pussy from someone you want to lock down is empowering, then idk what to tell you. Sure, it's a lot better than no sex, but getting strung along by someone you're all in on who's not on the same page is a sad experience regardless of gender. I've seen it play out with male friends, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:16 AM
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What? I'm specifically talking about the case where they are having sex, which is what the parent comment asked about Sometimes fucking someone who worships the ground you walk on falls into the "validation and ego boost" category
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:10 AM
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That makes sense. This sub is making me start to suspect I'm a bit of an outlier because my type isn't the typical Chad that all the women are supposed to be competing over, and I have sort of a manic pixie dream girl vibe where guys put me on a pedestal and convince themselves I'm "the one" before they've even really gotten to know me, so typically I'm the one trying to deescalate things when they're catching feelings too fast. The truth is probably somewhere on the intersection of "my experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:20 PM
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Hurting myself how? I'm happily in a relationship, with no lack of options in men when I was single (ETA: and bisexual so the issue doesn't affect me as much anyway), but thanks for your concern I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:33 PM
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Feels nice to be appreciated ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:24 PM
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Asking the real questions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:18 PM
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This same exact scenario has happened to me (with the genders swapped) more than once. It's quite possible that it happens more often with the man being the one avoiding commitment, but that could also be confirmation bias at play because it's the trope we're always fed. I'd be interested to see a current study of the gender breakdown in these kind of one-sided situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:15 PM
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If a woman is handing out pussy with or without commitment who is winning there? Both of them, because it's a mutual arrangement? You seem to operate on the assumption that women sleep with men to entice them into a relationship, which I think is outdated and out of touch. Sometimes women sleep with men because they want to sleep with them. They aren't always worth being in a committed relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:08 PM
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Yes, but I think we would frame it differently in that case: "He's infatuated with her, but she just keeps him around for validation and an ego boost while fucking Chad on the side"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:04 PM
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No worries. I'm glad to see we're pretty much on the same page. ​ Both groups trying to one up the other in a team men vs team women imaginary competition Well said. I really hate this as well. ​ always the underlying message of “women don’t need men but men need women so you better watch your step because we hold the power” I can see where you're coming from. Personally I've always read it more as, "throughout western civilization we've always had to be dependent on men, and were taught that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:44 PM
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I appreciate the correction, although you might want to chill out a bit, maybe spend some time outside. No one is gloating or relying on a "fairy tale" for an "ego boost", lol. I'm just speculating about factors that might contribute to OP's study, just like everyone else in this thread. Regardless of your marital status, you must be pretty miserable to interpret strangers' intentions so cynically. I still don't think we can conclude that women "hit a wall" in their dating lives based on this da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:14 AM
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Exactly, the article doesn't mention whether these men and women are single by choice or actively looking for relationships. It seems to be widely accepted in this sub that women are generally more okay with being single than men, and single women are statistically happier and healthier on average than married women, when the opposite is true for men. So seeing all the 30+ single women my first thought is not that they've hit a wall and are crying alone at home with their cats, but that more and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:35 PM
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They have very similar definitions, man, but they differ in that one is almost exclusively used to refer to property and secrets, while the other has a broader meaning and can be applied to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:37 AM
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fyi, I think you mean well-kempt. Well-kept is what you'd say about a garden that's kept neat and tidy, an antique that's kept in good condition, or a tightly guarded secret. Not really about a person since that's not something that's 'kept'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:57 PM
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The song literally mentions multiple times how big butts were not the beauty ideal in the western mainstream at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:35 AM
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Most women only care about looks and money and are too stupid or shallow to want to build a life with a good partner? You're either terminally online or attracted to shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:15 PM
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Sounds like you might need to reevaluate the kind of company you're surrounding yourself with. Most people are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:46 AM
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I'm lol'ing at your comment based on my dating history. I probably wouldn't be attracted to someone shorter than me just because I'm already short (5'3") and I think the only men shorter than that would be the ones with dwarfism which is a different issue entirely. I've dated multiple men the same height as me (shorter when I'm wearing heels), and didn't mind at all. I prefer that to the 6'+ guys. I see women my height sharing the same sentiment over and over on reddit, but we're always dismisse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:43 AM
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Let's stop pretending there isn't a significant subset of women whose ideal type is yaoi twinks and whose first crush was Link from Legend of Zelda or some KPOP dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:54 PM
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The fact that the relationships ultimately didn't work out doesn't disprove that those are the men she was attracted to and chose over others. You can add me to the list of "super rare exceptions" of women who would choose 5'10" over 6'+ in a heartbeat, all other things being equal. I feel like I'm making this same comment every other day, but TRP men still won't hear that we exist and it's not an uncommon preference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:49 PM
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it’s a ridiculous take that just because you found one example that this discounts the fact that women don’t write these songs as often as men. Gives one (1) example by a man, asks where these songs are by women (rhetorically implying that there are none), downvotes me for providing the same number of examples as he did lol Google is free, you know: "Sweetest Devotion" by Adele "Lions & Tigers" by Sleater-Kinney "Mouth's Cradle" by Björk "Lullaby" by Dixie Chicks "Speechless" by Alicia Keys "The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:15 AM
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In terms of gift-giving and ways of showing appreciation, which is the topic of your OP, this only holds true if you're making the assumption I described above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:27 AM
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Where are the songs that mom’s wrote about how much they love their sons? "To Zion" by Lauryn Hill instantly came to mind. This is a pretty ridiculous take even for this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:21 AM
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Wait, you have female friends? That's impossible unless you're some kind of loser beta orbiter who they only keep around to validate their egos... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:18 AM
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So your argument is that women are selfish and demanding when dating men and generous and selfless when dating other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:07 AM
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Not even trying to be snide, but maybe more households have mothers in the picture than fathers. That's the reason my family didn't celebrate it, anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:57 AM
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I bring my boyfriend flowers every few times I visit him, because I want to see him smile and remind him how loved he is. This Valentine's Day he was halfway across the world visiting family, so we planned to do something when he got back, but still I secretly coordinated with his mom so he could receive a custom keto-friendly gift basket on the day of. (He's been focused on eating healthy lately and I didn't want to derail his goals) I spend at least a half hour every day learning his grandpare…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:49 AM
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I date women and I can confirm it's a bullshit take. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:37 AM
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This ruined my day, thanks :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:53 PM
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Most of my LTRs were with guys under 5'5 (I'm 5'3), and I in no way was settling for any of them. I actively prefer men who are closer to my height. My current partner is 5'6 and is the hottest guy in the world to me. Like 5'8 isn't even short, it's average or above average if anything, so your story about the guy going to a prostitute out of desperation probably had nothing to do with his height
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:32 AM
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I had to scroll way too far down to see someone acknowledge that it's exactly the same for women. I'll go out on a limb and say I was never considered conventionally attractive until around my late 20s. It took many years of learning and effort to become a more dateable version of myself, both physically and mentally. Here are some of the things I've done over the years to become worthy of that "unconditional love" that supposedly comes so effortlessly to women: - Spend thousands of dollars over…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:05 AM
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men who are looking for a woman to be their second mother. This is the from top-level comment you were originally responding to. The word "men" was qualified by "who are looking for a woman to be their second mother". That is clearly denoting a subset of men who meet this description. You responded to this with: > It’s funny that a lot of people say men want a second mother ... which evidently based on your subsequent comments, you changed the meaning of "men" in your head to refer to "all men" …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:01 AM
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Most men do not want someone to clean up their messes and cook for them every day. Right, so most men aren't "man-children". That's why we have a special word for the ones that are. But there are enough of them that we have invented a word to describe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:07 AM
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Something something betabux I guess the rest of the 70% who aren't chads (i.e. 50% of all men) must be rich enough to afford a SAH trophy wife who secretly despises them 🙃
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 02:54 AM
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Whenever I see a cringey "dating coach" with some uber-hot model next to him staring at him with googly eyes as he talks and obsequiously agreeing with everything he says, it's just SO obviously and hilariously fake to me, but the poor guys in the comments just eat it up. I'm glad you eventually followed your moral compass and left that scam. "Selling them hope"... just.... ugh
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 02:49 AM
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OP: "I was an actual nice guy, and not just because I wanted to get laid." Also OP: "But what's the point of being a nice guy if it doesn't get me laid? 🤔"
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 02:28 AM
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Exactly this. When I'm in an environment where men might feel emboldened to approach, catcall, or stare, I dress conservatively and don't wear makeup because I really dislike that kind of attention. If it's an environment where I feel safe to dress how I like, I'll dress to the nines and be a little more bold in showing off the assets. In these situations I can feel myself being more confident, outgoing, and bright. If I catch myself in a mirror or in photos later, I feel good about myself. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:34 PM
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Sorry about your reading comprehension skills
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 05:22 AM
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You’ve gone completely incoherent at this point and I don’t think you’ve ever heard an emo song in your life. thatsthejoke.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:57 PM
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To quote u/KayRay1994, who you didn't seem to disagree with, her songs are about bad relationships or ex boyfriends Emo is mostly guys singing about women who hurt them. What's the difference? Emo songs aren’t about violence against women most of the time. Who's talking about violence all of a sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:53 PM
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So that's why emo kids are famously such raging misogynists /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:49 PM
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Neutral? My current boyfriend is 6 years younger than me, the guy I dated briefly before that was 4 years older, and my last long-term boyfriend was exactly the same age. And before you ask, I don't have any particular pattern with men I've dated regarding height or income, either. What conclusion were you trying to draw from that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:41 AM
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I agree with her point that there's nothing bad about being average-looking, but then she kind of shot her own argument in the foot by using 8/10 as the example of a rating we shouldn't be offended by because "then you're in the top 20% of beauty". Um, what? Surely she meant that we shouldn't be offended about being a 5/10 or 3/10 or 1/10 because it is what it is and a woman's value is defined by much more than her adherence to conventional beauty standards, not because it still means we're supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:23 AM
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You're not really doing any credit to your argument with your eye-rolling overuse of hyperbole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:08 AM
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We don't, lol In fact, most of us probably suffer from some degree of internalized misogyny. If you're like me, you try to notice it and root it out of yourself as much as you can, but it's very deeply engrained in some people. The culture of women pumping up their own self-esteem and that of other women is supposed to be a small pushback to this. The millions of small cultural messages that women who don't make men feel a certain way are worthless still pervade our culture, and it's hilariously…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:51 AM
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This guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:36 AM
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if a woman actually asks for my opinion and specifically asks for me to be honest about her looks I’ll give it without holding back ,otherwise why would anyone be going around offering unsolicited harsh opinions like that ? This is exactly how I treat it, too. You can get my unfiltered opinion if you ask for it, but you're going to have to really convince me first that you're not going to let it hurt your self-image. I only have this kind of ongoing understanding where we hold nothing back with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:21 AM
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I believe that you are under the impression that if women hate themselves you’ll have a better chance attracting them since they will be resigned to only focus on average men Well said. I'm reading that exact sentiment in a lot of these comments. It's often disguised as concern for the "less objectively hot" women who will up alone due to their unrealistic sense of entitlement, which is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:45 AM
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I wouldn't say it's competitive, more akin to negging. I always feel like the guys who ask women to rate themselves are seeking that smug schadenfreude of putting an overconfident person in their place. Like, "Let's see if she's properly insecure and not too full of herself. If she rates herself too highly, we all need to ridicule her until she's humbled. We can't be having ugly women feeling self-esteem that they don't deserve!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:23 AM
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This is such a warped perspective to me. First of all, are men still talking about "alpha" and "beta" shit based on debunked observations of maladaptive behaviors of captive wolves like it's 2010? Basing your self-image around those kind of pop-psych manufactured insecurities is way more pathetic and embarrassing than masturbation, which is a natural thing that probably every human being does. And paying for someone to be nice to you and pretend to like you is just about the most sad and unattra…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/24 09:55 AM
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