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These kids went so far as to collude together to accuse an innocent man of sexual assault, with the explicit goal of getting him fired. Don't think these are innocent victims of an out of control teacher who just took what measures they could to call for help. These kids have already demonstrated beyond any doubt that they are deliberate and evil and will go to extreme lengths to hurt others. If that teacher yelled at them, I have no doubt it was because they made a continuous, conscious and del…
/r/MensRights05/04/18 09:53 AM
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This wasn't in the Netherlands - we don't have jury trials. This was in Beaumont which I believe is in Texas, though my US geography isn't very good, so I could be miles off.
/r/MensRights14/03/18 10:23 AM
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Don't pretend as if he said that he just jumps in through the wall like the Cool-aid guy and grabs a woman by the pussy before she has a time to react or even become aware he existed. The statement you cite doesn't imply he doesn't wait for consent at all! In fact it is the exact opposite: "they let you do it". That is not even an implication, that's -literally- saying they -do- consent.
/r/MensRights30/01/18 02:03 PM
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"No women"? Try "No blacks allowed". See if that goes without violence.
/r/MensRights29/12/17 09:55 AM
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Big corporations lobbying heavily to prevent billing from becoming a crime
/r/MensRights07/12/17 02:10 PM
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Isn't Laci Green the woman who raped hundreds of people, as per various youtube comments? Believe the victims!
/r/MensRights17/11/17 11:23 AM
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The "pay gap" refers to a perceived problem that women (as a group) earn less then men (as a group). Yet for every women to be able to marry someone who earns more than she does, men (as a group) must earn more money than women (as a group).
/r/MensRights01/10/17 01:20 PM
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90% of suicides are men and Men are more likely to have a successful suicide attempt than women seem redundant for the sake of lengthening the list. As do It appears redundant, but sadly isn't, because there is a conceptual difference between between "suicide" and "suicide-attempt". I do agree that the wording should be clarified better though. When someone wants to commit "suicide", they have a simple goal: they want their life to end. They believe their situation is entirely hopeless. There is…
/r/MensRights18/01/17 10:49 AM
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Intermixed in the many negative reactions were “Game of Thrones” puns, including one fan who wrote “For the watch” *stabs Kit Harington.” Would this have been listed as a "pun" if it were a woman being threatened with stabbing, or would it have been used as "evidence" of the abuse women specifically supposedly suffer online?
/r/MensRights30/06/16 08:01 AM
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I completely agree. Feminist claims about there not being enough female stories being told really need to be supported by numbers when there are so many current, popular and recent series focussed entirely on women.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:48 PM
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Here's some shows currently on air which have excellent female stories Agents of Shield (large selection of ass-kicking female heroes) Game of Thrones (check which of the protagonists that you can name are still alive) Once upon a time (3 strong female leads, men as support characters only) Outlander (story revolves entirely around female lead) Reign (2 strong female leads, men as partners only) Some shows that were showing last year which were entirely female centric: Continuum (female lead) Do…
/r/MensRights28/04/16 02:46 PM
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Don't feed the troll
/r/MensRights18/04/16 09:19 PM
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Its very simple - this one originates from the feminist dogma / axiom "women are being oppressed". Once you accept that "women are being oppressed" is an unquestionable, absolute factual truth, you then start to wonder "how are women being oppressed". The answer is found in everything that women can be victims of, and rape is one of the way that feminism constructs this narrative, because in their minds, only women can be raped. So since women are being oppressed by means of rape, this must mean…
/r/MensRights04/04/16 07:02 PM
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Her grievance was that Alison, another Honey Badger, was getting paid minimum wage from the funds that were being raised by the Honey Badgers, in return for the 40+ hours a week she put into the project, while Rachel herself, who put only 5 hours a week into it, only got her travel expenses covered. Rachel tried to cover this up as if it was a "this should all be volunteer work with no reward" thing, but apparently wasn't able to understand that Alison cannot work 40+ hours a week on the Honey B…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 06:11 PM
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This kind of drama sometimes happens. I support the Honey Badgers regardless.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 03:03 PM
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the me spending time talking to officers, calling 911, and spending time at the actual police station talking to desk people, takes great offense at this sentiment And yet you rejected three possible solutions which are perfectly viable in your original post, which you have since removed, without valid cause. is "get the fuck off my porch or i'm calling the cops" good enough for you? how about after that, i did a loud count down from 10, then called the cops, then had them show up, and have a ni…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 11:38 PM
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Dude, its absolutely aweful someone is stalking you. That is not acceptable, and you need to take some painful measures to protect yourself against this madness, or it will drive you insane. The first thing you need to do is to admit that you don't know how to solve this on your own, and get someone, a friend or a relative to help you. They can help you through the emotional stress of this all better than anonymous figures on the internet. And you deserve to have someone to talk to about this in…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 08:40 PM
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Very good campaign. Let's end the normalization of violence
/r/MensRights18/02/16 11:13 AM
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All modern buildings already take load distribution into account by making women's bathrooms bigger (more toilets). If you are limited in this and want to maximize availability, then making all toilets unisex is objectively better. Only making the men's bathrooms unisex shows that you are -not- committed to maximizing bathroom availability. You show that you consider women's privacy more important than availability, while not holding men's privacy to the same standard.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 08:17 AM
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Ostensibly nobody should be publicly shamed, on the internet or otherwise. That being said, this woman is a Senior at Yale University. She worked as a masters aid, and served on the search committee of her university. There is no reason to presume she has an actual mental illness (those who employed her in these positions and who know her personally didn't seem to think so), and even if we might think her behavior to be "crazy", it is certainly not out of character for those in the social justic…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:02 AM
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Clearly a4b was not referring to women getting off of drunk driving charges, but about the responsibility which is dumped on men when it comes to getting a woman's consent when she is drunk. If men need to be mindful that drunk women cannot give consent to sex, then surely women need to be mindful that drunk men cannot give consent to spending money on them in a sexual context. Now, you might argue that it is unfair to claim women cannot give consent to sex while drunk - just as they cannot get …
/r/MensRights04/10/15 05:48 PM
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Don't give us that, this was clearly sexual in nature.
/r/MensRights04/10/15 03:56 PM
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Would you rather your child have feminism?
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:35 AM
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So she can teach her daughter about propaganda and help immunize her against it.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 08:16 PM
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In that case, welcome and thank you! :)
/r/MensRights09/09/15 09:16 PM
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I can't name any legal rights but I don't think that doesn't mean there isn't bias. Agreed and fair point! There can be non-legal biases too. The gender ratios at top levels is severely in favour of men. Its true. As I argue in my other post though, men work longer hours and sacrifice more for their jobs. Sometimes they literally sacrifice themselves for their jobs (98% of workplace related deaths in the Netherlands are men) Why shouldn't the people who work the hardest, and who sacrifice the mo…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 03:31 PM
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Its true, women earn less money because they work less hard. Worker X who has a vagina may work harder than worker Y who has a penis, but on average this holds true. In the Netherlands: 78% of full time employees are men (source) Men work overtime more often (source) and for longer hours (source) Men travel further and longer to get to their job (source) Men report sick less often then women (and that does not include pregnancy which is a separate matter altogether) and they stay sick for shorte…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 03:10 PM
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Sorry but I disagree on most points. You don't have to apologize for that :) I welcome discussion and if I am wrong, I hope you'll point out where and how I am, so that I can consider your views and perhaps adjust mine! The gender bias is definitely in favour of males I strongly disagree. Can you name me one single legal right that men have which women do not in the western world? I can name you three legal disadvantages which men face that women do not. Men are subject to the draft / selective …
/r/MensRights09/09/15 03:07 PM
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Men's Rights Activists are almost invariably gender equalists, striving for gender equality. The Men's Rights Movement is called such because there are rights, protections and privileges which women have that men do not. Rather than trying to take away rights from women to make equality, we strive to create equal rights for men by giving men the rights that women take for granted. In contrast, there cannot be a "Women's Rights Movement" because women already have all the rights. So instead there…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 02:28 PM
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I don't have anything to add, but I wanted to voice my support and approval for this welcoming attitude, and to second your message to /u/CatchPhraze :)
/r/MensRights21/08/15 09:08 AM
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With that said, I think this is not something that can be resolved by talking to your spouse - her controlling the money, criticizing you and allowing your daughters to talk about you like that, in front of others no less, without correcting them is tantamount to abuse. You need to contact a lawyer to help you file for divorce in a way that is most likely to get you the best custody of your girls and the lowest alimony payments. Reality says though, you'll be seeing them less and you'll be payin…
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:47 AM
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If you have suicidal feelings as you expressed here, you need to seek professional help in dealing with those feelings. Please look into the http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ or any similar organization for aid immediately.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 11:34 AM
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Next? Implying that isn't already a real thing
/r/MensRights19/08/15 10:42 AM
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Thank you for coming here and explaining. We all really appreciate it! If you are interested in doing a piece on the Men's Rights Movement, I strongly recommend seeking out Warren Farrell, Christina Hoff Summers or Karen Straughan - they are key figures in the movement and are likely quite willing to give you an interview, especially if you point to this post!
/r/MensRights16/08/15 08:25 AM
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There are of course multiple factors involved in the "wage gap". One of them is that women do not work as hard as men, on average. Worker X who has a vagina may work harder than worker Y who has a penis, but on average this holds true. In the Netherlands: 78% of full time employees are men (source) Men work overtime more often (source) and for longer hours (source) Men travel further and longer to get to their job (source) Men report sick less often then women (and that does not include pregnanc…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 03:24 PM
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The problem is not the numbers. Its the incorrect correlations people drawn from them. Too many people reason that since more crimes are committed by blacks that this means that blacks are more criminal by nature. That there is a biological drive in blacks that causes them to commit crimes. But that doesn't follow from the data. Moreover, even if it did (and it doesn't) one still cannot look at the crime statistics and conclude that the black person one just saw in the street is criminal based o…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 11:46 PM
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I fully agree with you, there is no belief that women never engage in murder or child abuse, but there is a strong belief that this is highly exceptional and atypical, going against a woman's nature, whereas for men it is much more normal, it is typical and very much in line with a man's nature. For example, people never worry that a woman who speaks to a child in the street is going to kidnap and rape it, whereas they do worry about that regarding men. In fact, men can be reported to police for…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 09:07 PM
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I agree if half the posts are of this type, that would be too much. However, currently it isn't anywhere near that. Checking the current front page at time of writing, there are four articles that mention female criminals, two of which are regarding false rape accusations. Out of 27 articles total. That's only "loads" of WBB stories if you are actively looking to be offended. The fact of the matter is, if someone comes here looking for dirt on the MRM, to verify their own delusion or to have a r…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 06:06 PM
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All across western society, there exists this peculiar myth that women are incapable of evil, that only men are the ones who do the truly bad deeds and that only men are the ones who murder and rape and steal. That it is men who cause wars, men who commit crimes, and men who beat their wives. We have gotten so used to this narrative that we don't even notice it any more. We have learned to explain it away, and even the news articles you link do this. Because we cannot accept that women can be as…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:35 PM
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Its horrible what happened to this girl. No child should be sexually abused, let alone by their own family. I'm glad the judge took this point and I hope judges all over the world will take that stance as well for all victims, male and female.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:09 AM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/ is a good cause. You might also consider the Canadian Association for Equality (CAFE): http://equalitycanada.com/ The Honey Badger brigade have regular fundraisers: http://www.feedthebadger.com/
/r/MensRights03/08/15 08:01 AM
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Very good post by the author you quoted! It only needs a few, very minor adjustments. I've marked them in bold: It absolutely affects them. See, it's similar to racism. We all know racism is bad, right? Right. But if you admit that individual events are racist, then those become data points. Data points can be confirmed and correlated. Correlations can be analyzed and collated into causation. Before you know it, racial patterns are facts. Facts are bad because they become theories. Theories are …
/r/MensRights02/08/15 01:27 PM
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. When you encounter a "women's only" parking spot as a man, you should just park your car here. If anyone objects, simply explain you are Rosa Parking.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 07:22 AM
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Where I'm from, the locks to the toilet are on the inside of the stall, so that the person pooping can lock the door from the inside. It seems needlessly complicated to have someone lock the toilet from the outside, and then call for them to unlock the door when you want to get out. Also, I think this is a repost - or at least this issue has been raised before with very similar images, which I recall seeing. Or maybe its just deja vu...
/r/MensRights31/07/15 09:20 PM
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Feminism has far too often tried to label random insane people as MRA's or anti-feminist in an attempt to poison the well. Unfortunately that means that until I see actual evidence that there is a proper link, I can't take this headline seriously. The fact that this link is posted by a new reddit account with a potentially trolly name and which has never posted anything before, and that there is no link to the actual source, doesn't lend it credibility.
/r/MensRights27/07/15 07:08 PM
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Thanks for your reply! I happen to think that part of masculinity in its current and historic manifestations is an inclination to use violence, not just for calculating pragmatic reasons ("it works because we're stronger") but out of instinct. That is, "masculinity" is largely defined by traditional male behavior, and thus expectations of men, and that behavior in turn is largely motivated by primal predispositions of the male body AND mind. On the small scale (individual decisions), I would agr…
/r/MensRights27/07/15 03:39 PM
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Fair question! Lets analyse the assertion. For clarity, I am presuming you mean the assertion of "Male violence is the worst problem in the world" Let's for a moment look past the gender part. The assertion presumes that generally speaking violence is a problem in and of itself. Not only that, it asserts that violence is the worst problem in the world. This kind of attitude generally stems from the idea that "violence is never the answer". The issue with that idea is that violence often -is- an …
/r/MensRights26/07/15 04:14 PM
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Odd. Didn't feminism teach us that gender was entirely a social construct? How can they test for social constructs through genetics?
/r/MensRights23/07/15 11:39 AM
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Same as with a prenuptial agreement - unlike all other contracts, these aren't considered binding if the woman thought the marriage would last forever, or if she was in love, or if it financially disadvantages her. I exaggerate of course.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:37 AM
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Can anyone link me to the source that there is going to be a ban? It seems unlikely, to be honest.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 08:03 PM
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A girl was horny and in her horny mindset enthusiastically and willingly had sex with a boy. The girl later that day became horny again and in her horny mindset, she enthusiastically and willingly had sex with that boy again. Months later, the girl was no longer horny and she has come to dislike the boy. She tells her friends, who convince her that she must have been raped, since she does not like the boy anymore. The girl complains to the UCSD, who immediately piss themselves fearing she will s…
/r/MensRights16/07/15 01:33 PM
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Thank you for being willing to post here - many will disagree, but I encourage discussion and would welcome an open dialogue. I find that I have a hard time following your arguments. Could you elaborate, based on my questions so that I may better understand your point of view? It's about women not having the same financial independence as men, due to expectations that men are breadwinners, women are nurturers (and therefore working fewer hours, less pay). It is argued that this is not a healthy …
/r/MensRights15/07/15 01:48 PM
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I think he either forgot a /s or is a troll :)
/r/MensRights13/07/15 03:26 PM
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I understand this isn't directly related to Mens Rights, but since our sub was one of the ones who went dark, and we've had some contentions supporting Ellen Pao and her methods, this might not just be a fresh wind for reddit, but for our community as well.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 09:25 PM
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Thanks for replying to this :) I fear I did not properly clarify my reply. When I say feminists aren't using logic, I don't mean that as an insult, but rather as an observation of a fact, something I conclude from many debates with feminists. To be very clear, my statement should not be interpreted as meaning "feminists are dumb" or "feminists are incapable of logical thinking", but rather that within the feminist community, logic apparently isn't the guiding principle which is used in making de…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 05:50 PM
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You very correctly point out a mayor problem with the idea of yes means yes, and it is one that many MRA's have, like you, identified in the past. Unfortunately, I fear you are using logic to analyze a situation that is not founded in logic. The people who propose these types of laws don't use logic to reason about this problem. They use their moral feelings only. To them, it is a black and white world, with bad rapists and good, innocent victims. There is no grey area, no confusion. Because the…
/r/MensRights01/07/15 11:24 AM
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32 Astronauts who only reported seeing the teapot years after the fact, who didn't report the existance of the teapot to mission control and who only came forward when there was a clear incentive to lie (free publicity, interviews with press, attention etc.) should not be believed. I don't need to explain to you how a situation where your mother or a friend tells you something which is completely reasonable is not the same as random people whom you never heard of before making unfounded accusati…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 08:08 PM
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By feminist theory, there is a generic, unwritten agreement by all men to keep all women in a constant state of fear, thereby oppressing them for the benefit of men. They call this unwritten agreement "the patriarchy". Susan Brownmiller poses that rape, and the threat of rape, is one of the methods by which this oppression is executed. This idea that all men use rape and the threat of rape to keep all women in a state of fear is generally referred to in feminist circles as "rape culture". Hypoth…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 02:35 PM
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I think it is a parody of core feminist theory such as from prominent feminists such as Susan Brownmiller, co-founder of Women against Pornography, who wrote: "[Rape] is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Then again, feminist theory really doesn't need to be parodied. Just presenting it as is, is more than enough for a good laugh
/r/MensRights30/06/15 02:01 PM
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But I think it's not enough to simply disregard moronity; you need to actively oppose it. Feminists take note!
/r/MensRights30/06/15 01:29 PM
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I agree with you - people shouldn't presume anything, and the original article indeed goes a bit too far in its claims about who is lying. What I am saying is that the position of not presuming anything at all (as you advocate) is functionally identical to presuming that Cosby is innocent. Because presuming him innocent is identical to not presuming anything at all, it therefore is of no use to go into semantics, as /u/Men13 does, about how not proven guilty in court does not mean that Cosby did…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 12:33 PM
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But why apply this reasoning only to Cosby though? Why shouldn't this reasoning apply to all who are accused of rape? I mean, I have no proof that you, /u/Men13, haven't raped 50 small children. I mean, obviously by the law, you are indeed "innocent" in the sense that we can't send you to prison. But are you truly innocent in the sense that you haven't raped 50 small children? Now, I don't believe you did such a thing, but what if someone accused you of that? What if multiple people did, knowing…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 11:21 AM
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For example, what is the right to be free from torture, when it only applies to people the government doesn't want to torture? For example, what is the right to freedom of the press, when it only applies to state-sanctioned media? For example, what is the right to the pursuit of happiness when it does not apply if you are a homosexual? Then again, I suppose you could also ask what is the right to vote when it only allows you to vote during an election (and not for example next Tuesday)? :)
/r/MensRights29/06/15 07:26 PM
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Doesn't the right of access require the mother to acknowledge you as the father first though?
/r/MensRights29/06/15 07:22 PM
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Thanks for the reply! I agree there are situations in which he might gain certain (easily dismissed, circumstantial) rights. I don't think he gets any rights from simply siring the child, though? Perhaps I am not fully informed, or we mean to say the same thing but express it differently. Which rights do you believe he will have?
/r/MensRights29/06/15 01:35 PM
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This is a very short reply, but it is also extremely factual. Its not a hyperbole or an exaggeration, it is a literal statement of fact. He has zero rights. No rights whatsoever. Not limited rights. No rights. At all.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 12:22 PM
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That's awesome! Be sure to send them your appreciation!
/r/MensRights16/06/15 11:43 PM
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Personally I'm tired of the word circumcision. Talk about using euphemisms to avoid calling something what it actually is.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 02:27 PM
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Feminism is not a big umbrella term -at all-!. Feminism has a very specific and clear meaning, a core ideology which is written down for all to read and it has central idea's such as patriarchy, toxic masculinity and rape-culture that lie at the heart of the movement. I already showed you old leaders, so lets name some new ones. Anita Sarkeesian relies heavily on the idea's of patriarchy, toxic masculinity and rape culture in her works and explicitly mentions those by name. She relies on the the…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 09:23 AM
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No rush! I continue to have trouble with the basic premise of men as the "default setting". I don't recognize society as comparing women to a default male mold. But let's go with the subject / object dichotomy for a moment. If we take this as fact, then we can wonder if men are better off being the default subject. For example, the subject is the one who has to do all the work, whereas the object mostly just waits around until it is acted upon, while all its needs are provided for. This is espec…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 03:09 PM
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Interesting how you are going "those aren't -real- feminists" instead of saying "those people are awful and I denounce them and their ideology". Also interesting the criticism you cite, because yes I read it: "Dworking called attention to real and important problems" Exactly what real and important problems? All men being inevitable rapists and exploiters? Her "feminist critics" don't seem to have a problem with her hatred of men -at all-, but rather they have a problem with her saying women sho…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 07:27 AM
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The problem is that these "nitwits" are supported and revered by the "moderate, equality for all people regardless of gender" feminists, rather than being rejected by them. The "nitwits" are the feminist thought-leaders, their spokeswomen and their representatives, and they face almost zero opposition within their ranks. Moreover, the crazy expressed by the extremists is exactly in line with core feminist ideology. Valorie Solanas wrote the Society for Cutting Up Men manifesto, which called for …
/r/MensRights14/05/15 07:24 AM
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The problem is that the crazies are supported and revered by the "moderate" feminists, rather than being rejected by them. The crazies are the feminist thought-leaders, their spokeswomen and their representatives, and they face almost zero opposition within their ranks. Moreover, the crazy expressed by the extremists is exactly in line with feminist ideology. Valorie Solanas wrote the Society for Cutting Up Men manifesto, which called for killing all men. In 1968 she put her belief into action a…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 11:36 AM
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Thank you for the detailed explanation! Though I'm not as familiar with De Beauvoir in particular, I recognize the generic argument you present (her argument, its clear to me that this is not your personal view of course, though it is interesting to debate the topic! :) ) I would agree many feminist hold to this idea that women were enslaved due to the way society works, I strongly disagree with the notion however. Even if I accept the notion of the enslaved other versus the dominating self (and…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:04 PM
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I very much agree conceptually. Our goal is equality. I do want to add that women have never, not at any point in history, lived as slaves to men. That is to say, there have been female slaves, but no society in human history has ever held women as a class as slaves in service to men as a class. The idea that this not only happened but is still the case in modern western society is just patently ridiculous. Women have never been as free as they are now! To be honest, anyone who believes that mod…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 02:03 PM
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Women needn't be in an internment camp at all. In fact, it can be as simple as a legal requirement (with of course the option to get a medical waiver as men can for conscription). Government can offer IVF services from a random sperm donor, or women can pick their own partner to impregnate them, as they please. All that'd be required in terms of their time was a visit to a health clinic every few weeks, which they would have done anyway if they became pregnant for other reasons. Even considering…
/r/MensRights04/05/15 08:32 AM
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250 000 children could easily be produced by forcing the women coming of age in years immediately following the war to bear 3-5 children each. Combined with a population boom following a war, this should very easily replace the lost population. Your argument is that maintaining a viable population in the next generation is the duty of Finish citizens, and therefore conscription of men (and not women) is sensible. But that argument applies equally to mandatory pregnancies during or shortly after …
/r/MensRights04/05/15 08:07 AM
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To a small country like Finland women on average are far more valuable in re-building and especially repopulating the country than in harms way. So would you support conscription of women for the task of producing children, that is, government enforced, mandatory pregnancies for women of breeding age, if that was what the country required at the time of rebuilding and repopulating?
/r/MensRights03/05/15 10:22 PM
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There are of course multiple factors at play to explain why the total income of all men divided by the number of working men is different from the income of all women divided by the number of working women. The facts are that women do not work as many hours as men and aren't as willing to sacrifice their own personal safety and comfort for the benefit of their employers. That's not an empty claim: In the Netherlands: 78% of full time employees are men (source) Men work overtime more often (sourc…
/r/MensRights29/04/15 11:08 AM
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I think this is an excellent analogy
/r/MensRights24/04/15 08:13 AM
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Very good list, thank you!
/r/MensRights21/04/15 12:02 PM
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“When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” –George R.R. Martin, A Clash of Kings
/r/MensRights18/04/15 04:00 PM
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So, and this is according to -her- story, she shows up late and didn't dress professionally for a job interview. Then somehow she's surprised she didn't get the job? Of course she is. She's a female who programs. Therefore she should automatically get every job she wants, because vagina! Also, does anyone else think that it is far more likely that the female hiring manager would notice and object to a run in her tights than the two male engineers?
/r/MensRights17/04/15 07:17 AM
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I agree, though I think that's only part of the picture. Three other factors are the way in which feminism maintains its monopoly, the lack of evidence for its ideas and the hatred inherent in feminist theory. Feminism maintains its dominance not by presenting strong arguments, good research or solid facts, but rather by silencing critics, by shouting and by using extremely invasive protests against those they deem their opposition. As an example of the way feminism maintains its monopoly, the W…
/r/MensRights15/04/15 09:08 AM
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A man putting his car in a spot meant only for women is called Rosa Parking Thank you for doing this!
/r/MensRights12/04/15 08:10 PM
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For the same reason we don't cut off the hands of thieves, or stone adulterers or burn witches at the stake: this isn't the dark ages, and we are more enlightened than that.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 07:13 AM
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I think its good these men are being brought to justice. Next thing you know, we'll have Negro's taking up seats in buses that are reserved for Whites only! /s
/r/MensRights08/04/15 12:33 PM
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Women are apparently better at multi-tasking and other skills, so why deny men their place atop logic mountain ;)? No they're not. Both men and women are terrible at multitasking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhm_HZ9twMg&index=1&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd
/r/MensRights08/04/15 11:04 AM
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Fair enough! That is a reasonable position to take. All I am saying is, if women have the option to get out of the consequences of their mistake, vice-a-vis abortion, then men should have the option to get out of the consequences of their mistake through legal paternal surrender. Fair is fair. Anyway, that's my view, I've expressed it, I'll respect if yours is different :)
/r/MensRights02/04/15 04:30 PM
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If it is so simple, then why doesn't the same argument hold when she's asking for an abortion? Why shouldn't she have taken every precaution? If she didn't want the child before, shouldn't she have used PROTECTION? Why does she get to play the victim after the fact? I find this very hard to figure out. To be clear, I support the right to have an abortion, I merely think men should have the option of legal paternal surrender as well.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 04:09 PM
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As a pro-lifer, aren't you an advocate for a woman to not have to pay any support to a child, if she doesn't want that child? He clearly indicated he did not want the child -before- the child was born, in fact -before- the limits on abortion by his offer to pay for the abortion, so you cannot explain this away by saying the child isn't born at the time the abortion decision is made. If you support "her body, her choice" why don't you support "her choice, her responsibility"?
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:45 PM
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You state explicitly that it takes two people to make a baby and that it is therefore unreasonable to blame one of them (the woman). You make it clear that because the woman is not to blame, she should not be forced to suffer the consequence of having sex (abortion is allowed). You also state implicitly that it -is- reasonable to blame the other party (the man), since you state that it is reasonable he should be forced to suffer the consequence of having sex (he must pay child support). You also…
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:29 PM
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So you think all women are mentally inferior to all men?
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:08 PM
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Pro-lifer detected
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:04 PM
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It's not just a man's disease. Therefore rather than ignore it, you should take it seriously.
/r/MensRights31/03/15 09:00 AM
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Excellent source, thank you!
/r/MensRights27/03/15 08:40 AM
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Unfortunately, this may be true :(
/r/MensRights24/03/15 10:51 AM
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Has this article been published in a scientific journal or the proceedings of a conference or some such? I'd really like to use it as a source, as it is well written and scientific, but fear that it may be dismissed as non-authoritative, as it is "just a single blog post in a blog with no other posts".
/r/MensRights24/03/15 09:04 AM
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Men should park in these "whitesomen only" spots. If someone challenges them, they can say they were Rosa Parking.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 08:05 AM
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Its called Gender Studies, not Gender Science, because doctorate holders in the field do study, but don't practice science
/r/MensRights16/03/15 04:23 PM
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Analogy: What if a club believed it to be more profitable to have higher prices for Blacks and Hispanics while Whites enter for free? They could argue that White people on average have more money than Blacks and Hispanics, and will thus spend more. Moreover, they could argue that Whites will feel safer with fewer of "those people", and therefore bring more money to spend. What you are missing is the discrimination and the immorality. Moreover, you are missing that these aren't justified by (unpr…
/r/MensRights13/03/15 06:39 PM
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Thank you, has been corrected
/r/MensRights12/03/15 07:54 PM
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The name feminist is tainted in the same way that "White Pride" has become tainted. Ostensibly there is nothing wrong with being proud of your race, be it Black, Native American or White. But the association with Neo-Nazi's, with hate against different ethnic groups and with discrimination has become too great to support a "White Pride" movement, even if one is simply proud of the many amazing and positive accomplishments of white people, with no animosity towards other ethnic groups. In its mos…
/r/MensRights12/03/15 05:13 PM
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Men have almost no birth control option - and none of them apply after conception. But when women have to travel an extra mile to get access to Plan B, this is so big of a problem that vandalism is a valid strategy. Feminism. Prioritizing women over everyone else since the 19th century
/r/MensRights10/03/15 01:55 PM
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But the fight DID end in 1973 and you even admit to this. You explicitly say that even if ALL of the provisions were to go into full effect there would -still- be eight clinics available in Texas. Clearly and by your own admission, abortion is both legal and accessible within the state of Texas, even in your own worst case scenario. Moreover, Texas is likely the most horrid example state that can be envisioned for this issue in the US. Exactly who's being intellectually dishonest here? What you …
/r/MensRights09/03/15 11:13 AM
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with the exception of birth control, abortion, and autonomy, but that's not really a men vs women issue as much as it is a moral issue I would say this is more of a men's rights issue than a woman's rights issue. Women have far more access to birth control than men, both in terms of quantity and quality. Women have absolute dictatorship over abortion, with men neither able to prevent, nor to force an abortion. However I fail to see how abortion is a relevant issue today, however. Roe vs Wade was…
/r/MensRights09/03/15 08:43 AM
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I'm a Feminist-ally and I still want these Ladylike gestures. Do you? 1) Make me lunch. Yes, I have hands capable of preparing food, but a woman doing so without needing to be asked, saving me the effort, is oh so sweet if only because it isn't necessary. 2) Walk a step behind me My girl does this now, and while she's yet to formally say she knows her place, it's nice to know that at least in this she does. It's a submissive gesture that lets me know I'm more important than her personal social s…
/r/MensRights19/02/15 04:19 PM
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This is a disturbed individual, not a representation of an entire population. Obviously. The vast majority of men and women don't harm their children. What this article illustrates however is that women can and do harm their children, out of spite, to harm the father, or just because they are fucking insane. That idea is novel to far too many people. The idea that women could harm their children runs contrary to popular belief that ALL women are good mothers and angels who could never harm a chi…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 06:52 PM
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This article illustrates just how far women are willing to go to prevent fathers from seeing their children. If a woman is willing to burn her own daughters alive, do you think that it would be beyond a woman to use access to the children as a means to get more money from her husband? If a woman is willing to burn her own daughters alive, do you think that it would be beyond a woman to lay false accusations of physical abuse against her, to file for false protective orders, all to get a better b…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 01:07 PM
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When it comes to hookers and pimps, we don't know what the pump has used to threaten the hooker. Not justifying prostitution, but given the drug addiction, low education level, shame, and severed familial relationships, it would be easy enough for someone to"control" another person using drugs, personal attacks, threats of violence to loved ones, and resource control. Surely, you are right when you say it's s choice, and there is a way out, but where does a hooker go? And I sympathise. Regardles…
/r/MensRights07/02/15 02:38 PM
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More realistically, they are addicted to drugs and need money to pay for those. But we don't say a mugger is a victim because she mugged someone to get money for drugs. More realistically, they are desperate for money because they have no education, no job and no outlook at getting any other type of work. But we don't say a bankrobber is a victim because she was poor. More realistically, they have family back in their home country who relies on them, while they don't speak the language, understa…
/r/MensRights07/02/15 08:26 AM
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I don't agree with the list posted by OP, which I think is ridiculous. I agree with you that men's rights should focus on rights for men to achieve gender equality, not on feminism. And I agree that the men's rights movement, just like feminism, contains mislead and even malicious individuals. That being said... please do not spread the lie that feminism is about equality for everyone. That is blatantly and obviously untrue, and it can be objectively determined by any neutral investigator that t…
/r/MensRights24/01/15 03:10 PM
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What about quota's? If its good enough for top management... T_T
/r/MensRights20/01/15 12:14 PM
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Stay out of the parents decision. It is between them and their doctor. It is not barbaric. It's a flap of skin. You want barbaric watch an action movie. Legalize the amputation of little girls labia! It has proven health benefits! /s
/r/MensRights18/01/15 08:43 PM
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I am very sorry about your experience. It must have been awful. I hope it helped you to share this story with us.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 04:12 PM
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You can do both, though. Except you can't. You cannot point to western countries like Canada or Germany and say "these countries do a lot to provide humanitarian aid in Sudan" and then demand that Syria makes an equal commitment to help people in Sudan. I mean, ostensibly it would be kind of Syria to help Sudan, but it has its own wars to fight, its own struggles to solve and peace to create. And its own enemies to deal with. It is unreasonable to ask that Syrian aid organizations give money to …
/r/MensRights13/01/15 01:47 PM
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A suicide may fail when you try to hang yourself and the support beam of the building collapses under your weight instead. A suicide may fail when you put a gun to your head, fire, and the bullet ricochets off your skull. A suicide may fail when you jump off a 30 story tower and miraculously being grabbed by 12 bald eagles who carry you to safety. In these cases, your goal was to kill yourself, and you failed. Which is unlikely, because you wanted to die, so you used a method that was reasonably…
/r/MensRights09/01/15 08:23 AM
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This is correct. The Merchant of Venice, act III scene I
/r/MensRights03/01/15 07:25 AM
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Hath not a man eyes? Hath not a man hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means, warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer as a woman is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
/r/MensRights02/01/15 03:40 PM
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Happy new year everyone! Stay positive, we're making progress!
/r/MensRights01/01/15 09:02 AM
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even when people are legitimately trying they can fail I fully agree with you here, this absolutely happens. The point I was trying to make is that it is unlikely. Now, I don't know exactly how unlikely (it might be more common than I would guess), but it certainly isn't 12 times more likely to fail then it is to succeed, as is suggested by the source. My point is, people who shoot themselves through the head probably don't survive 92% of the time. If they did, people who legitimately wanted to …
/r/MensRights23/12/14 08:11 AM
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A suicide may fail when you try to hang yourself and the support beam of the building collapses under your weight instead. A suicide may fail when you put a gun to your head, fire, and the bullet ricochets off your skull. A suicide may fail when you jump off a 30 story tower and miraculously being grabbed by 12 bald eagles who carry you to safety. In these cases, your goal was to kill yourself, and you failed. Which is unlikely, because you wanted to die, so you used a method that was reasonably…
/r/MensRights22/12/14 01:44 PM
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You're welcome and good luck on your own travels! :)
/r/MensRights19/12/14 08:19 AM
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First, your generalizations are a tad problematic. Absolutely I'm making generalizations here, and what I posted is not a claim to be a universal truth! People are unique individuals, and one cannot just group all MRA's together and say "these think this way" or all feminists and say "these think that way". My general explanation is not intended to classify all people, merely to show a trend that I've observed and which I believe to be an important part of the conflict between the two sides. I f…
/r/MensRights18/12/14 11:03 PM
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Cat's hiss and wag their tails to show their anger. They purr to show they are happy. This is not a choice the cat makes, it is simply how they are. Dogs on the other hand, pant and wag their tails when happy and they growl to show their disapproval. While an individual cat and dog may get along, this difference in method of communication can cause a lot of problems. I believe that just as cats and dogs communicate differently, so too MRA's and feminists communicate - and even think - in very di…
/r/MensRights18/12/14 02:05 PM
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Fair enough :) I was under the impression for a moment that you thought this - it is clear from your response that this is not the case!
/r/MensRights16/12/14 09:06 PM
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Different accused may use different strategies, especially since the Rolling Stone lies were much more easily disputed, which may have prompted a different strategy Mr. Cosby may have at first reacted as you did by denying and may have found it to be horridly ineffective, leading to this new strategy. Whether he is narcissistic or not I cannot judge, but even if we presume him being so to be a fact, that doesn't at all affect whether he is guilty or not, nor whether it is a valid strategy or not…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 05:25 PM
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He [the judge] added that, all in all, the man’s ordeal “should never have occurred”. It should never have occurred. Yet thousands have had this inflicted upon them in the past, because this is what the rules and procedures allow people to do. It should never have occurred. Yet thousands more will have it inflicted upon them in the future, because those rules and procedures have not been changed as a result of this, nor have any penalties been enforced on those who did it. It should never have o…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 04:01 PM
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Look at how people reacted to the Rolling Stone case. Even in this case where it is blatantly obvious and fully provable that the fraternity is innocent of this crime, people are writing articles declaring how the perpetrator of the lie should always be believed, and how it is rape culture to listen to the story of the accused. Those articles aren't satire, they are deadly serious: just as Lothario has to hang, so do the boys of the fraternity. Fortunately, most people (and I'd argue most femini…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 03:48 PM
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It doesn't matter if he claims to be innocent. Even if he is, by denying his guilt, he will be guilty of trivializing rape, promoting rape culture and making it much harder for women who were raped to come forward. Translated roughly from Multatuli (a Dutch literary genius) Prosecutor: Your honour, that is the man who murdered Barbertje. Judge: That man must hang! How did he do it? Prosecutor: He cut her up into small pieces and salted them. Judge: That is most horrible! He must hang! Lothario: …
/r/MensRights16/12/14 02:05 PM
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Thanks for the continued discussion, its good to hone our arguments thoroughly! When discussing the "too drunk to consent" you are giving examples of when the drunk people instigate the actions. Let's say a man kissed his date after a wonderful evening in which she had a lot to drink. She is drunk, but not incapacitated (if she was, the unconscious rule would apply, and she'd already fall under the given definition of rape). She is thus capable of resisting and objecting. In this scenario, she c…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 05:52 PM
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I realise you're just playing devil's advocate, so let me counter: Using drugs to sedate someone and then having sex with them, or even simply having sex with someone who is unconscious or sleeping always falls under physical coercion. In this case, the sex act itself is the force used, and the act is clearly against the will of the victim. "Too drunk to consent" doesn't exist. The five football supporters in my train who were so drunk that they collectively pissed in a pram while a baby was sle…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 12:27 PM
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So you mean overzealous university students like the ones who picketed Warren Farrell? I consider myself a feminist as well as a MRA and these examples are all total douchenozzles who undermine equality. Douchenozzles they may be, but there sure seem to be a lot of them who claim to speak for the social justice crowd, and who have a right to make that claim as well, by the support they receive from countless others who claim to be feminists. Too many famous social justice warriors are exactly th…
/r/MensRights10/12/14 09:26 AM
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Agreed :) Good discussion!
/r/MensRights04/12/14 08:18 PM
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Is it illegal though? If someone is employed for "political advisor" and they lobby with politicians to get funding for men's shelters redirected to women's shelters, are they not doing their job? If someone is employed as "public relations officer" and they tell the press that women have it 1000 times worse than men and that as workers at a shelter, and that they know this for a fact seeing how they work for a shelter, are they not doing their jobs? When they then deride in the newspapers and o…
/r/MensRights04/12/14 12:39 PM
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I believe that is Domestic Violence Shelters, yes. Regardless, the Netherlands is not a very big country, either by inhabitants or by geographical area. I fully support building care facilities for women. My concern is that building care facilities for women will then mean that there will never be such care facilities for men. Well funded shelters for women will inevitably be ran by feminists, who will have no shame in using the funding intended for the shelters to fund campaigns against the cre…
/r/MensRights04/12/14 10:56 AM
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I understand the need for privacy - it seems mostly common sense that people who are in dire straits need to be given a little bit of dignity. And that I agree is not a gender issue, that's just an issue of supporting a fellow human being. My fear is that if we taxed everyone 1 dollar for shelters, that they would build elaborate care facilities for women, provide them not just with privacy, but with additional psychological aid, education, help finding jobs, extensive financial support in the f…
/r/MensRights04/12/14 10:09 AM
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understanding doesn't mean commending it This is true. I fully support trying to understand why this happened. It is my belief that the reason that women would feel uncomfortable being around a well-behaved teenage male, but not a well-behaved teenage female is because of sexism. I don't think these women hate men, they've just been taught that men are bad, dangerous, predatory, etc. and they believe it. I thought, because you defended that position, that you felt this a reasonable position for …
/r/MensRights04/12/14 08:29 AM
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I believe I would be comforted to be able to share the bad time that has hit me with a sympathetic person, to be there for them as they are there for me. A young man of 15 years who is there with his family in the same dark times as me could be a valuable companion to talk with, who can listen to my woes in a way that the women there would not be able to. Even if he was not a skilled listener, he could distract me from the bad times by telling me about the latest computer game which he played wi…
/r/MensRights03/12/14 09:49 PM
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Excellent, so if you agree that these statements are discriminatory and offensive and have no place in a civil discussion, why would you make them about teenagers?
/r/MensRights03/12/14 05:21 PM
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So you agree then that these statements are discriminatory and offensive, and have no place in a civil discussion?
/r/MensRights03/12/14 05:19 PM
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If you're going through hell,the last thing you want is some teenager around you "If you're going through hell, the last thing you want is some negro around you" I would feel seriously uncomfortable in a womens section in a shelter even with the most well behaved teenager "I would feel seriously uncomfortable in a shelter, even with the most well behaved negro"
/r/MensRights03/12/14 11:10 AM
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Your argument, that foreskin isn't vestigial, and that removing the foreskin has no health benefits, is the same point I am trying to make as well, so I fully agree with you here. His argument is that it is sensible to remove the foreskin because having it causes or exacerbates urological issues and it is less hygienic. If that is true, then there must be evolutionary pressure against having a foreskin. Moreover, the penis is one of the fastest evolving organs in the body of most animals, underg…
/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:55 AM
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I don't think its debatable at all. As a society we have already decided at what point parents cross a line with parental rights and child rights. Parents may not put a tattoo on the foreskin of their child. This is prohibited by law - in fact, it is not allowed to tattoo them anywhere. Parents may not brand the foreskin of their child, not even under anaesthesia. Nor anywhere else on their body for that matter. Parents may not put a piercing in the foreskin of their child. Nor anywhere else for…
/r/MensRights03/12/14 08:48 AM
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The penis is quite possibly the fastest evolving organ in the human body due to its very direct relationship to a man's ability to procreate. As a urologist, can you explain why human males have a foreskin at all, if you believe that it is medically advantageous to remove it? I mean, if it was better for men not to have a foreskin, shouldn't it have evolved away by now?
/r/MensRights02/12/14 09:42 PM
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And thank you for sticking with it despite some overzealous downvoting. It speaks very positively to your character. I understand what you are trying to say and frankly I agree - feminism is not a monolithic movement, and what one feminist believes is feminism is not what another believes is feminism. This is exactly why it is so important that feminists don't just go around saying "I am a feminist" and then letting others in the movement do the talking on their behalf - which is what is happeni…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:42 AM
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I agree that people are a bit of overenthusiastic in downvoting you (I suspect they are tired of this debate which has been held here many times). I personally don't believe all feminists are evil. In fact, I strongly believe many feminists are sensible people who want a better tomorrow. However, let me point out that "Don't engage in this behaviour" is not the same as "Speak out against this behaviour". When we call out for moderate feminists to speak up, we don't mean "remain silent and preten…
/r/MensRights28/11/14 11:09 PM
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And do you argue this to feminists when they claim that Men's Rights Activists are "fucking scum", and when they pull fire alarms to prevent people from speaking out in favour of equality? Don't get me wrong, I am very glad that you believe in equality. As a Men's Rights Activist, so do I. The problem I have with feminism is that the crazies have taken over the movement, and they have been at it since before I was even born. This kind of vandalism and death threats is nothing new to feminism. Er…
/r/MensRights28/11/14 04:03 PM
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Men need to collectively start using these parking spots. If someone calls them on it, they should argue they are Rosa-Parking.
/r/MensRights27/11/14 01:58 PM
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Regarding feminist censorship, I also suggest looking into the "Ban Bossy" campaign where they actually try to ban words, as well as investigating how video's by prominent feminists such as Anita Sarkeesian and Rebecca Watson have disabled comments entirely, or heavily moderate their blogs. You'll find similar policies with most feminist groups, as if open discussion is anathema to their ideology. Regarding hypocrisy, I would look into new European Union legislation that requires the boards of c…
/r/MensRights20/11/14 04:52 PM
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Governments don't pay subsidies to ISIS-based organizations because they think the majority of Muslims support them. Governments DO pay subsidies to feminist organizations that spread lies about the pay gap, because they think the majority of feminists want those organizations to receive funding. Corporations don't hire ISIS representatives to train their designers to make their products more Muslim friendly because they think the majority of Muslims support them. Corporations DO hire "straw fem…
/r/MensRights19/11/14 04:29 PM
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Some feminists do not support this kind of hysterical reaction to everything masculine, and won't attack, say, scientists for wearing the wrong clothes. Some feminists do not support this kind of hysterical "everything is rape and oppression" attitude, and won't attack, say, the entire gaming community over imagined sleights against femininity. Some feminists do not support this kind of hysterical lies about the pay gap and won't attack, say, science and technology corporations and organizations…
/r/MensRights19/11/14 08:32 AM
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Notice how she was not convicted for her lies, or the consequences of those lies. How she was not convicted of the financial exploitation of him and his family. How she was not even convicted of any of the emotional harm she inflicted upon this man, nor for she inflicted upon his family. She was convicted because she forged a document. The law does not even recognize this man as a victim of anything.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 09:56 AM
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Of course I read it. I don't support female circumcision. However, the evidence presented here is of the same type as evidence for medical benefits of male circumcision, and that evidence is used to justify spending millions of US tax dollars on circumcising boys in various African countries to stop the spread of HIV. You are quite willing to accept mutilating a little girl, even within the same paragraph where you question the quality of the evidence that suggests it might be beneficial. You ar…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 08:04 PM
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Female Circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection. Here is a presentation of one paper: http://www.tzonline.org/pdf/femalecircumcisionandhivinfectionintanzania.pdf (Stallings, R. Y.,and Karugendo, E. (2005). Female Circumcision and HIV Infection in Tanzania: For Better or for Worse? Abstract of paper given at Third International AIDS Society) And another study from Kenya; http://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1113&context=iph_theses And a paper from a study in Senegal: Kank…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 04:41 PM
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How about these: Earle Haas, inventor of the tampon Ferdinand Adolf Kehrer, performed the first modern Caesarean section and made significant improvements to the procedure Max Saenger, improved the Caesarean section in such a way that the Uterus (and thus the ability of the mother to have additional children) might be saved Marie Jean Antoine Nicolas de Caritat advocated for womens right to vote and free education as early as 1789, almost a century before the women's suffrage movement. Alva J. F…
/r/MensRights17/11/14 10:42 AM
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You would be correct if the goal of his entire exercise was to get dates. But getting a date is not the point at all. You recognize this, but incorrectly identify the actual goal. The actual goal of his conversation with her is not to get a date, but it also is not to be an activist. Rather, the goal of his conversation with her is to find someone with whom to have a meaningful relationship, based on love and mutual understanding and compatibility. Dating is not the goal. It is a means to an end…
/r/MensRights15/11/14 12:47 PM
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Done! 3 . Woman claims you were choking her 4 . Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. You do not collect 200 Euro's.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 08:20 AM
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Its interesting the way these statistics are worded on the site. 38% badly injured men in 114.190 accidents means 43.392 men are injured. 53% badly injured women in 70.470 accidents means 37.349 women are injured. Thus, more men are badly injured in traffic accidents than women, and the conclusion of this organization is that therefore women need extra protection. More men are badly injured in traffic accidents than women. Therefore women need to have separate roads to keep them safe. Of course …
/r/MensRights05/11/14 08:49 AM
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Thank you for sharing this. Too many men are taught they have to work to earn a relationship, that their love itself is not enough, but that their money, their labour, their security is an additional price that has to be paid for them to be worthy to be loved in return. Even if they see the con, they saw their fathers, their brothers and their friends suffer, as well as countless "heroes" in movies who suffer and sacrifice to earn love. Pointing out that these relationships are abusive is so imp…
/r/MensRights01/11/14 09:04 PM
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"In my ballets, white is first. Blacks are consorts. God made blacks to sing the praises of whites. They are not equal to blacks: they are better."
/r/MensRights27/10/14 03:08 PM
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this is patently false, atleast in the US No, its really not. Women work full time less often than men. Women who work full time work fewer hours as part of their full time schedule than men (i.e. one works 36 hours and the other 40 hours) Women work overtime less often and for fewer hours than men. Women work fewer weeks during the year and are less likely to work during holidays than men Women call in sick more often than men and stay sick for longer periods of time than men (not counting preg…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 02:07 PM
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Interesting discussion, thank you for continuing to share your views! Since we're doubling up on a lot of things, I decided to make only a singular reply to both posts, and to condense my answer somewhat, so I skip over various points which I feel are repeats of earlier answers. If you feel I left a certain important detail unaddressed, please point it out to me and I'll gladly get into it! It is their choice, but it's weird and slightly harmful to have a particular day when they're pressured in…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 08:46 AM
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Nobody's getting seriously hurt, but it's not without harm either. Can you explain like I am 5 years old how this harms anyone? If the trend is for all of the young women to dress in a sexy outfit on this day, what happens for the women who aren't comfortable with that? Then those women follow their own path and wear different outfits? I mean for goodness sake, these are people who we allow to buy guns! Surely someone who is mature enough to purchase a gun and load it up with ammo should be matu…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:43 PM
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In general, I agree. But decades ago this wasn't a thing, where Halloween became an excuse for women to wear sexy and revealing outfits in public that they'd never normally wear. The miniskirt was invented in the 60's. These young women were photographed in the seventies. And those aren't costumes either, that's their normal every day clothes which they wear in public. Women do not need Halloween as an excuse to wear sexy clothes in public, and dressing in revealing clothes is not a recent thing…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:29 PM
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The complaint boils down to "why are women allowed to buy Halloween costumes that they want but that I don't like". Right. But that's a valid complaint. No its not. Nobody is forcing anyone to wear sexy outfits, nor is anyone being denied the right to wear sexy outfits. Nobody is hurt by women choosing to voluntarily wear sexy outfits. Everyone can do what they want, and nobody gets hurt. That's basically how it ought to be! Imagine you were a man living several decades ago. You're drafted to fi…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 03:51 PM
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It's about "why is it the normal and expected thing in our society for men to dress like recognizable characters, and for women to wear something sexy that shows off her body? Why are women routinely sexualized as part of this holiday, why are women getting the short end of the stick here?" Nobody expects women to wear something sexy that shows off her body at parties. It is not an expectation that people have of women. At best they might be used to many women voluntarily showing off their bodie…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 02:48 PM
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Why the hell are most of women's costumes for sale along the lines of "Sexy Nurse", "Sexy Vampire", "Sexy Police Officer", and "Naughty Nymph"? My guess would be because that is what women are actually willing to buy in large enough numbers to make it profitable.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 11:16 AM
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I fully agree with you that threatening people is wrong, even if the threat is not legitimate and won't be carried out. You are presuming though that the target is not the one who sent the threat (or had them sent on her behalf). I find it very likely that Anita actively orchestrated this as a means to get a bigger audience and keep herself relevant despite not having anything interesting or new to say.
/r/MensRights15/10/14 08:41 AM
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But engineering is problem solving, and you solve problems by having as many diverse inputs as possible, and in terms of diversification, attracting more women applies to half the population on earth, and would be the largest target group. A team full of diverse people with relatively low grades will arguably come to a better solution than a group with all high-graded people, but who are all the same and think alike. Looking at ICT as an example, you see large corporations like Microsoft, Google…
/r/MensRights14/10/14 07:30 PM
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I think that guy is not her husband / partner but her one-night-stand and now she feels she can't be seen with bad hair the next morning. Obviously it is better for her to kill him than for him to see her with bad hair. She might be embarrassed after all, and her feelings are more important than his life.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 08:21 AM
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Looking at the comments, this is what feminists call "rape culture". Except that it is real. And affects men.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 08:03 PM
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Quite eloquently articulated.
/r/MensRights01/10/14 07:45 AM
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Posts on reddit get ignored sometimes. Or more accurately -missed- (I certainly never saw it). If not enough people see a post and respond within a short period after it is posted - especially if other posts are made around the same time - it gets buried between the other news and may get lost in the crowd. This has nothing to do with the amount of attention we wish for posts to get, but is simply a consequence of how the reddit algorithms work. Once its buried, it'll stay buried. Additionally, …
/r/MensRights28/09/14 09:15 AM
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You actually replied to him at the time and gave him a solid answer. http://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/22eedg
/r/MensRights28/09/14 08:22 AM
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This is why men should simply park their cars on those "women only" spaces and declare themselves to be "Rosa Parking" if anyone challenges it.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 06:48 AM
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I cannot speak to the accuracy of those statistic, but it seems plausible to me that the majority of serial killers are male. You ask if this shows that men have a greater capacity for violence and sexual aggression, but I do not see how these two are linked. Let's rephrase the question a bit: in the United States, African Americans are over-represented amongst convicted criminals. Can we therefore draw the conclusion that African Americans are inherently more criminal than white Americans? I fi…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 03:15 PM
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I agree with you that feminism itself is not undermined by Emma Watson being a hypocrite - feminism has no need of Emma Watson for that. But what exactly is an ideal society "under" feminism? Is that a dictatorship where figures like Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, Rebecca Watson, Suey Park or Valerie Solanas would rule? Do you actually believe a society in which they have free hand to institute whatever policies they please would even allow for the existence of dominant, assertive men? Let's for t…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 09:08 AM
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That brings us to victim-hood and why feminism is so keep to adopt it. Victims are naturally treated with feelings. Humans are biologically caring so when we see someone who is hurt, our first instinct is to help them. Feminists want people to have those types of feelings for them, they want them to care for them and help them and be positive and supportive to them. Therefore being a victim is a net positive thing for feminists and other feeling thinkers. By declaring women victims, they call in…
/r/MensRights24/09/14 03:14 PM
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I did not extrapolate this from your previous topic regarding this, though from that and your current post in combination, I am gathering you are looking to understand the motivation of feminists, and are trying to understand them on a deeper level. I myself went on a similar quest before, and I think I've made some progress in this. First of all, it is important to distinguish between the generally reasonable individual who happens to have encountered some of the feminist propaganda and who use…
/r/MensRights24/09/14 03:14 PM
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I agree with you that if someone hates men due to being a poorly coping abuse survivor, your approach would be the right one. Mind you I personally feel that telling someone to "get help" in a discussion is not usually productive, and such statements should be made with extreme care, though I do agree with the sentiment. Where we differ is in the idea that feminists are acting like poorly coping abuse survivors. That is not at all my experience. The feminists I encounter are very, very far from …
/r/MensRights24/09/14 11:59 AM
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70% of abuse is mutual, with both partners engaging equally in violence. You don't feel "helpless over being abused" when you were participating in the violence yourself, because you weren't helpless - you were participating. Out of the 30% one sided abuse, 70% (21% of total abuse) is committed by the female partner. You don't feel "helpless over being abused" when you were the only one who was abusive. Only 9% of abuse cases are of the "man hits a helpless woman" type that most people imagine. …
/r/MensRights24/09/14 09:52 AM
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Hallo daar! I am a Dutch MRA myself. There is currently (as far as I am aware of) no organized MRA chapter within our country, though I've considered starting one, if I can find others who are interested. Personally what I have been doing is careful research on the topic, focussing especially on the Netherlands itself. Did you know for example, that it took less than 2 years for women to get the vote (27 September 1919) after men did (12 December 1917), within the Netherlands? In any case, send …
/r/MensRights09/09/14 02:22 PM
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So is your argument that cancer patients -can- control their hair loss, because they can choose to forgo chemotherapy to meet the school dress code...? I kid. You're right, obviously, it just does not really seem like a relevant point for the above discussion.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 02:58 PM
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Facts not in evidence. While it is possible for a school to pretend as if they'll allow a man back as soon as he cuts his hair, it would be seen as unreasonable if a school denied access to a girl until her hair had regrown, because of the time investment necessary - you cannot regrow your hair in 15 minutes, while its easily possible to get a buzzcut in that amount of time. Moreover, even if schools were to consistently apply their gender stereotypes, a girl could then argue that the school wou…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 01:54 PM
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Can you link to examples?
/r/MensRights07/09/14 11:05 AM
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Browsing though here there are lots of things that could fit into these categories. It seems pretty common to see people refer to feminists as "retards" and all sorts of other negative terms, which kind of satisfies both the hate speech and sweeping generalization points. Feminists. Not women. As much as the former may pretend to be the latter, the two are not the same and the terms not synonymous. They are not calling people retards because of something they have no control over but because of …
/r/MensRights07/09/14 11:04 AM
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I believe you were using the wrong angle, which is why the discussion got off track (for one, you should have challenged the absolutely fictitious 2/3rd, because that is utter and complete bullcrap drawn from the ass of some feminist agenda, but that's a different debate) Of course clothing is a language, but by expressing the argument like that, its very easy for people to cling to the "thus she was saying 'rape me' to everyone" line of thought - that's not a logical conclusion, but is the asso…
/r/MensRights07/09/14 07:49 AM
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No, not really to be honest. There is no hate speech against women here - there may be one or two individuals who are very angry at having been burned to the ground by women and finding society does not give one crap about them, and there may be a feminist troll or two, but hatred against women from either of these groups is regularly and consistently down-voted and comments like "feminists, not women" are common when someone generalizes one to the other. Inaccurate and faked statistics are the …
/r/MensRights07/09/14 07:05 AM
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This citation seems to me to be outrageous by today's standard. The idea that a woman ought to not participate fully in the workplace is anathema to Men's Rights and the concept of equal opportunity. However, that is looking at an era long ago through the lens of modern society. Men in Tesla's time were counted upon to feed their families. This was a very literal thing, because if they did not work, the family would starve and without help or a turn of their fortune, actually die of starvation. …
/r/MensRights05/09/14 08:50 PM
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Very true, and thank you for the clarification - I was referring to chests which were especially hairy (which would as you say cause the pad to stick only to the hair). Just a bit of hair on the chest doesn't require shaving.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 09:33 PM
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I am not convinced this is a men's rights issue. I have received similar training with an AED. Those who aren't trained often want the shock to be given as soon as possible, but that is not always the right action to take. If a chest is hairy, it needs to be shaved before placing the electrodes, or the hair will prevent the device from working. To a layman, that may seem like doing it "too neatly" but it really makes a significant difference in conductivity, and you usually don't have a second s…
/r/MensRights02/09/14 02:58 PM
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There's an article showing that the government, yes, condemns murder. But two dozen people participated in the murder. Two dozen. That's a lot of people who were okay with murdering a pregnant woman for the "crime" of marrying a man her family didn't agree with. Imagine if that woman had had premarital "sex," as many people believe has happened to an unwed rape victim? I don't see how "voluntarily marrying someone" is the same as "being raped", so I don't see how the family's response is in any …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 07:45 AM
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There exists no such culture, that is a myth perpetuated by organizations to justify getting more funding. Even in Afghanistan, rape is considered a crime and police actively try to find those who do such things. But even if there were a backwater place where this was the norm (there isn't), it is absolutely and completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion. They aren't going to be selling this nail polish in Burkaburkastan, so dragging it into the debate by the hairs won't make it relevan…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 09:56 PM
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Please stop spreading the lie that people blame and shame others for being raped. That does not exist in the real world (with the possible exception of men being raped by attractive women). Male victims and the occasional troll or idiotic religious extremist aside, when a person hears someone they know was raped, the first reaction is not, nor has it ever been "what was she wearing?". The first reaction is "Oh my god, that is horrible!". Don't lie and pretend as if that isn't the case. Only when…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 06:55 AM
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In principle I agree with you, but don't be fooled by clever wordplays. This could very well be less of an effort to protect men from a harmful stereotype, and more of an attempt to make all men out as deeply evil for -choosing- to be predatory (rather than being forced to be so by nature). Maybe I'm sceptical and this person means only the best, but feminism has left me too disappointed in this sort of thing too many times for me to take it at face value. I'm sad this is how jaded I have become…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 06:25 AM
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Absolutely agree here. By naming them "victims" they pretend as if women are utterly helpless, as if those all-powerful calls will break down whatever mental barriers they might throw up, tearing them to shreds whether they listen to cat-calls or not. Feminists not only do not care that they are impressing upon women that they are defenceless and without agency or ability to influence either the world or themselves, in fact they revel in and encourage it! To feminists, the "victim" is the ideal …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 05:38 PM
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These are bullying tactics used to dominate. Bullying does -not- stop by yielding to your bully and doing what they want. The more topics you avoid, the more silence you keep, the more topics they will take offence to. By yielding to them, you teach them their behaviour is okay and encourage them to escalate it. Do not let them shut you down. Say what you want to say and say it loudly. Under no circumstance allow them to declare topics or opinions "off limits". If you have solid arguments, and c…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 02:25 PM
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I fully agree with you. Both women and men have real issues and pretending those issues don't exist is foolish at best. In the ideal world, we would be moving away from a Men's Rights Movement or a Women's Rights Movement, and towards a Gender Equality Movement. At this time, I think men face more serious issues (lack of reproductive rights, the draft, family court bias, genital mutilation) then women, but both have serious and valid concerns that need to be addressed. I want to add this: many i…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 08:18 AM
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A few who prefer traditional values will prefer both. Others like myself who denounce traditional gender roles as an outdated concept no longer relevant in an era of self-driving cars, 3d printers and bacteria that produce gasoline, view both citations as outdated. The key thing we share in the Mens Human Rights Movement, is that we either accept both or we accept neither, because the idea of treating one gender in a certain way and another in a different way is unacceptable to us.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:18 PM
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Since the archiver won't archive the image I'm replying to: the quote I am replying to is: "A gentleman will open doors, pull out chairs, and carry her bags. Not because she's helpless or unable, but because he wants to show her that she is valuable and worthy of respect." We think about this quote the same way we think about: "A lady will cook his meals, wash his clothes and do his dishes. Not because he is unable to do these chores himself, but to show him that he is valuable and worthy of res…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:16 PM
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A judge who wilfully and knowingly ignores the law should be disbarred, and lose their license to be involved in any position in the legal field.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:11 PM
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I think this is not a men's rights issue so much as a "Delta Airlines personnel doesn't follow their own rules" issue (which they pretty much admitted to, according to the article) That being said, odds are this would never have happened if the roles of the mother and father had been reversed.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 08:45 AM
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Good to see this being addressed. Destroying people's stuff in "revenge" is abuse, plain and simple, and has no place in healthy family life.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:07 AM
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I agree with you in principle that being supportive of someone with the ulterior motive to get them to agree to an abortion and then breaking up with them is a very shitty thing to do. In principle. However the situation cannot be swept under the rug so easily by simply declaring him "bad" and her "innocent" and be done with it, as feminists would like to see us do. First off, she -clearly- wants a child and was ready to keep it. He -clearly- does not. That means that they are in different stage…
/r/MensRights23/08/14 10:08 PM
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We've seen one too many people come in here, post about problem X, then suddenly attempt to turn it around and pretend as if there is hypocrisy going on in the Mens Human Rights Movement because tada, it was actually about a woman, haha. And that tactic is fine with me because if there is such hypocrisy, it should be exposed for what it is. But what happens in practice is that these people trying to pull a switcheroo find that we treat men and women exactly the same. I, for example, stand behind…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 01:40 PM
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Of course you are nervous, that is a perfectly natural reaction. Normal people don't threaten one another with rape, so this is both an unfamiliar situation, with the added stress that as a man it is harder to talk about this topic. You have every right to be scared by this! Here's something to help put your mind at ease at least a little bit: internet threats are not usually very serious. The internet is full of trolls and people, feeling safe behind their screen, are less inhibited to saying t…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 10:14 AM
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I think this -is- a men's rights issue, as he is feeling nervous about going to the police because of the social stigma against men regarding rape.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 09:51 AM
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Take second-hand smoke for example. We know smoking causes cancer, not just to the smoker themselves, but to those near them. We might attempt to stop people from smoking by telling them about the dangers to themselves and others. That would certainly be a necessary step, and most reasonable people would be convinced by this if shown the evidence. However, some people will still want to smoke despite the evidence. They will be too stubborn or too dependent to give up what they "have always done"…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 05:32 PM
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I am very serious about what I'm saying. I believe that lobbying, spreading information and eventual new laws, we can end genital mutilation in the western world. From what I can tell, we agree on the goal (ending genital mutilation) but perhaps have different views on how to realistically attain that goal, would that be correct? Our difference in viewpoint may also be cultural. Condemning male genital mutilation is already reasonably common in the Netherlands where I live, and most medical prof…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 03:51 PM
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Glad to hear you are on board jpflathead! Let me explain our master plan! In phase one, we are going to peacefully protests, make internet petitions, make flyers and posters, debate the issue on the internet and in real life, make YouTube video's and spread our message. We will give interviews, engage in television debates, newspaper articles, etc. In phase two, which will take place in parallel to phase one, we will published detailed and accurate information to dispel rationalizing myths such …
/r/MensRights21/08/14 01:45 PM
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This is sort of standard affair with feminism, I've found - double standards, cognitive dissonance and blatant lies. It's a cult in all but name, no different from Scientology.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 09:16 AM
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Good to see this kind of action. I am not familiar with this specific case, but family court really needs to change. A lot.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 08:31 AM
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You can be a Jew or Muslim who does not mutilate children in the same way that you can be a Christian without murdering gays (Leviticus 20:13). Just because a certain horrible thing was part of your religious culture historically does not mean that you cannot abandon that horrible thing and acknowledge that it is bad.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 08:26 AM
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I am very glad to see this happening. Putting legal proceedings in the hands of private entities like that is something that greatly worried me, completely independent on the men's rights issues angle of this. I sincerely hope that the university is given a gigantic bill, in the tens of millions of dollars, to help them reconsider whether rape is something that -they- should handle, or whether it is a matter for the actual justice system.
/r/MensRights21/08/14 07:40 AM
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This is very true and in line with what I was trying to say - that it is more complex than "girl = bad"
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:50 PM
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Excellent example!
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:48 PM
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I think it's not so much particularly about being "like a girl" but rather "outside of traditional expectations for that person". For example, the insult is "you throw like a girl" when applied to a young boy, is about physical activity which is generally more associated with boys than girls in traditional gender expectations. On counterpoint, "you dress like a boy" would be an insult to a girl and "you dress like a girl" would also be an insult to a boy. Though the latter may be perceived by so…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 12:23 PM
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In medieval times, marriages were for life, and they constituted an exchange. Men, being unable to have children, while being very capable of doing hard physical labour, traded their ability to work for a woman's ability to have children, and she accepted this deal as she in turn lacked the ability of doing the hard physical labour and thus secure enough income to survive. The ideal husband was one with a steady job, a blacksmith or a merchant or a noble who owned land, while the ideal wife was …
/r/MensRights16/08/14 08:38 PM
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I agree with you fully, and would like to add that in some of these cases it would be worthwhile to note that the problem is not female privilege, but the male lack thereof. For example, genital mutilation - nobody in the MHRM believes mutilation of girls is something that should be legalized, but rather we believe the mutilation of boys is something that should be outlawed. I wanted to note that explicitly because people tend to purposefully misrepresent our position.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 09:26 AM
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Wait, I'm confused: she gropes his groin, he makes a joke about it and somehow -he- is sexually harassing -her-. How does that work, exactly?
/r/MensRights15/08/14 08:30 AM
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I asked myself that very question, not specifically for this post btw, but more generally, but thinking it over I came to realise this is actually a thing: this, and other posts like it, illustrate how society, and especially certain loud-mouthed (and therefore more audible) young women, have viewed men. These attractive young women have always commanded the attention of young men. Some men, attractive and sportsmanlike, could get that attention and some men, nerdy and not so sporty, could not. …
/r/MensRights14/08/14 10:27 AM
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I believe abortion is -not- an MRA issue. Moreover, I could never support a position where we would force women to get agreement from their husbands / boyfriends for an abortion - my body, my choice is a principle that I strongly support. Now, the situation would change significantly if we get to a point where artificial wombs are viable for human reproduction. In such a case, the fathers right to have a child could be preserved without touching the rights of the woman to autonomy over her own b…
/r/MensRights07/08/14 09:07 AM
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/r/feminism does not need to expose stories about men behaving badly because it is already a commonly accepted fact in society that men can and do commit crimes. In popular culture, be it games, movies, etc, the regular "mooks" whom the hero cuts down by the dozens are almost exclusively men. Cutting them down is justified because they are evil. That's about the depth these mooks have. They are men and they are evil, and we accept this at a glance, without knowing anything about their history, t…
/r/MensRights25/07/14 08:13 AM
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Women Behaving Badly In todays media we see bad behaviour by women being swept under the rug while bad behaviour by men being overexposed. Moreover, many people have the faulty idea that women are less criminal and less violent than men. These articles are counterpoints for that.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:51 PM
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Feminism is named after the thing it holds most dear: women, or the feminine, because it believes that to be better than men or the masculine. It is a name in the style of the white power movement, which is named after its greatest ideal, white power. The similarities do not end there: The white power movement holds that whites are being oppressed by people of colour, who threaten their racial purity through rape, who take jobs they rightfully deserve and who cause them harm through their crimin…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 09:31 AM
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Wonderful to hear! Good luck with the recovery!
/r/MensRights14/07/14 09:47 AM
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It is absolutely horrible that this happened to you. From what you described, you did absolutely -nothing- wrong. A woman whom you don't otherwise know came to your house, with someone to back her up, and started screaming at them. Of course you feel threatened and scared! This woman is paranoid (seeing enemies where none exist) and on a hair-trigger (bringing her partner and screaming at people who aren't even involved in the matter). Do not engage her, it can only end badly. Instead, you need …
/r/MensRights11/07/14 01:22 PM
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I absolutely agree with you there. This is one of the reasons why I think spreading awareness is so important. Since many people underestimate the number of male victims of workplace accidents, people dismiss the risk as irrelevant and safety measures as "pussy" behaviour. The people taking the actual risk, their employers and the public who judge men based on their willingness to take those risks are all involved in this. Greater awareness can, hopefully, help change this cultural attitude. I a…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 08:03 AM
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I believe the Netherlands is a relatively safe country for most workers. Certain sectors however are notoriously more risky, in part due to the economic crisis increasing pressure on workers to ignore safety guidelines so as to prevent bankruptcy. The energy sector, especially construction and installation of power lines and windmills is one of those area where work is especially risky, working at height with high voltages. October last year, a 19 and a 21 year old mechanic were killed when when…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:49 PM
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I'm sure they'll miss both those votes. <sup>This</sup> <sup>kind</sup> <sup>of</sup> <sup>news</sup> <sup>makes</sup> <sup>me</sup> <sup>sad</sup> <sup>about</sup> <sup>reality,</sup> <sup>sorry</sup> <sup>T_T</sup>
/r/MensRights08/07/14 10:59 AM
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I agree, based on your description, the numbers collected by the US and those collected by the Netherlands cannot be compared. They use different definitions and the circumstances in both countries are different, so it would be unfair to say that the numbers in the Netherlands are "lower" than the ones in the U.S. As you said, the matter is 'fuzzy'. And it will always be fuzzy, I think. When someone has a heart problem, gets pregnant, has a healthy baby and dies 320 days later of a heart attack,…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 09:09 AM
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The numbers I raised are from the bureau that calculates our economic policies for the government. I have full reason to believe they are accurate. I'm open to changing my mind if you have sources to suggest they are wrong. Also consider though, do you know what percentage of women in the US give birth in a hospital? Because over here it is over 75% (source). I suspect it is lower in the US, and this will likely affect the results. In the other comment, I also mention population density vs dista…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 05:33 PM
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Thank you for continuing this discussion, I think it is very interesting and you raise excellent points. This is really helpful! Not when you use it like this: You are correct, thank you for clarifying this! The factor works in both directions though and I think it evens out. If you have 3 children but were pregnant 5 times, you should calculate your risk at 5 times the average death rate not 3 times, but your pregnancies should also be counted in the years that you were pregnant, did not concei…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 05:25 PM
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Thank you for your detailed review, this helps me improve the argument! Likewise, maternal deaths are decreasing, with only 7 maternal deaths in 2010 and 2011, as compared to 17 in the previous two years. Because the Netherlands is not that big, naturally the number of deaths from these causes are going to be low. With between 3 and 9 a year over the period, random fluctuations are to be expected. Thus, it is not surprising to see different numbers over 2010 and 2011 versus 2008 and 2009. I do n…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 02:10 PM
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I did a calculation on this a while back for the Netherlands. Note that it is about general risk of death from work and giving birth: In the Netherlands, in the period of 2008-2011, 24 women (and 0 men) died as a result of pregnancy, giving birth and childbed combined. (source). This is over a total number of births of 734006 in the same period (source). All births were given by women (source). Thus, on average 6 women die each year in child birth in the Netherlands and on average 183501.5 women…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 02:55 PM
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I think you misunderstood my message, because from your other posts on this topic, I think we are actually in agreement. You probably missed my earlier post in this topic line :) I'm not arguing that video gaming is cricket or skating, I'm saying that there is a genetic justification for segregation in skating (because women are objectively weaker than men from a biological perspective) but no such genetic justification for segregation in video gaming (strength does not factor into it) - exactly…
/r/MensRights04/07/14 07:18 AM
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I don't have a problem with a beginner level game. But say I was excluded from that beginner level game because while I too am very much a beginner at speed skating, I am also Dutch. I would feel I was being excluded then. Worse, if I were a non-Dutch amateur, I would feel that people would think I was inferior if they called the amateur league the "non-Dutch" league and frankly it would be quite insulting.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 09:08 PM
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Let's look at the Speed Skating results of the 2014 Winter Olympics The Dutch -blatantly- dominate the sport. They got more gold, silver and bronze than all the other nations put together. The Dutch have developed superior training and strategy and have a big pool of talented skaters to draw from because they spend a lot of money on the sport - lots of people in the Netherlands watch Speed Skating so sponsors get more exposure, and this in turn means more money for the sport. The Dutch did not w…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 05:57 PM
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Then I must conclude that like the IeSF, whomever organizes those segregated chess tournaments believes that women are mentally inferior to men and are incapable of competing with them on a meaningful level.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 04:33 PM
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e-Sports are a competition where all physical characteristics of the players -literally- do not matter. Men's greater physical strength is completely and utterly eliminated from the equation. The only measure of the competition are reflexes, mental skills and tactical insight. What exactly is IeSF trying to say when they believe women need help to be able to keep up with men?
/r/MensRights03/07/14 02:48 PM
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In the Netherlands, in the period of 2008-2011, 24 women (and 0 men) died as a result of pregnancy, giving birth and childbed combined. (source). This is over a total number of births of 734006 in the same period (source). All births were given by women (source). On average 6 women die each year in child birth in the Netherlands and on average 183501.5 women give birth in a given year. This means on average, 1 birth equals a risk of about 1 in 30.583 of death. Men, comparatively, do not run this…
/r/MensRights01/07/14 12:19 PM
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These feminists are -so- oppressed by the patriarchy that they have the luxury of rejecting large amounts of funding because they dislike the copyright practices of their donors and the skin colour and gender of the owner. I wish the men's human rights movement was being oppressed by the patriarchy so we would be able to pick and choose who we got funding from.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 01:49 PM
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It appears you may be correct in this, I can find various posts on the internet that seem to suggest this! I'd love a proper source though, as I cannot find the neo-nazi you mentioned.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 06:47 AM
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If you say "this is discriminatory against men" they will always ignore it, because it is so obviously so that they have already mentally blocked themselves from registering this. Instead, turn the tables: "This is disrespectful to the highly qualified women we -do- employ in technical positions, as it makes it look as if -they- are under-qualified, despite the fact that they are not. Then the highly qualified women will leave the company, resulting in a worse man-women balance within the compan…
/r/MensRights24/06/14 03:32 PM
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Why not make prisons gender neutral and put everyone in the same prisons? Would allow for more cost-efficiency, I imagine.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 09:55 AM
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Yes. His gay lover ordered the children on Amazon, and also happens to work for UPS (looking totally hot in the uniform). The partner delivered both their children from the Amazon warehouse, but those babies were heavy, so when he got home, luckily he was able to call on the nurse; all that experience from lifting the overweight patients for his female colleagues came in quite useful in carrying the babies from the UPS-van to their front door.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:25 AM
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This article appears to be behind a paywall.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 07:36 AM
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Isn't child support supposed to be spent on ... The child? This is a common misconception. Child support means money goes to the mother (parent, but in practice the mother), to be spent as she pleases. She has to give absolutely zero accounting for this. If she wants to use it to be on the phone with her boyfriend in Timbuktu all day, that's perfectly alright from a legal point of view. All she has to do is provide a bare minimum amount of care for the child, but even if she doesn't, that is a s…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:52 AM
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Catholicism denounced religious circumcision for its members in the Cantate Domino, written during the 11th Council of Florence in 1442. To quote "Therefore it strictly orders all who glory in the name of Christian, not to practise circumcision either before or after baptism, since whether or not they place their hope in it, it cannot possibly be observed without loss of eternal salvation." (source) Moreover, Pope Francis has condemned sexual abuse of children and is taking actions against it (s…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:09 AM
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On 26 May 1948, Israeli defence minister David Ben-Gurion ordered the creation of the Israel Defense Forces, their conscript army. Do you believe this order, by Israel's founding father, blamed the Jews for the Holocaust? Do you believe that the proposal that led up to the order was blaming Jews for the Holocaust? Do you believe that people who supported the proposal were blaming Jews for the Holocaust? If suggesting that Israel built an army does not constitute blaming the Jews for the Holocaus…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:53 AM
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I have read lots of posts about feminism not being valid in the western world because sexism isn't as big of an issue in the western world. But there are plenty of things that are worse in other parts of the world that we still try to make better here (education, hunger, homelessness) why should sexism be any different? You misunderstand this argument I believe. We do believe that we should fight against sexism in the western world. What we do not believe is the claim that women are being oppres…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:10 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to look at the other side. You guys do not like to be generalized as violent and hyper-sexualized and yet I see in many of these posts women are generalized as manipulative and emotionally unstable. I personally do not think either way is a healthy way of viewing another group of people and would not think a serious feminist would generalize a group of men like that. Are people on MRA who generalize women like this on the fringe or the majority? Most people in the MHRM…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:09 PM
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Don't say "I don't support Elliot Rogers". We don't have to do that, its not necessary and anyone who does not automatically presume that you don't support that is not someone you want to speak with.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:34 PM
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Propose to her. Invite her to dinner, hire someone to make a video. Then get on one knee before her: "Honey, I am so sorry we fought over this. I was wrong. I love you. Honey, I want to be a father to this child. I will take care of this child 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I will change its diaper, I will wash it, I will watch it take its first steps, and grow into a beautiful man or woman. This morning, I quit my job, so that I can spend every waking moment with this child and with you. I know…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 09:23 AM
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Men should park in these spots. If anyone asks or berates them about it, they can say they are Rosa Parking. Double points if they used to park there all the time and only now were told that the parking space has been made women only.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 07:08 AM
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I'm not sure I understand what exactly this is supposed to mean or what the purpose is of posting them... As far as I can see - and I'm no expert - there is no strong correlation between this sub and any other. At be we can conclude that about 1 in 10 people who post here also post to TumblrInAction. That's a very low percentage as far as I can tell, but lets for the sake of argument say this is a significant number and we need to draw conclusions from that. What exactly can we conclude then? Do…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 08:15 PM
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I fully agree with you here, of course poor people want and deserve human rights. To me, human rights, including freedom and self-determination, are one of the highest goals that we as humanity must strive to bring to all, which is one of the reasons I consider myself a Mens Human Rights Activist. I believe many people in poor countries are forced to choose between different human rights, such as food and security versus freedom. The fact that they even have to make that choice is what I believe…
/r/MensRights12/05/14 02:37 PM
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When you are struggling to have enough food, self-determination is not exactly a priority. Perhaps women are choosing to trade their sexuality for safety and food, while men - not having any sexuality to trade - are forced to work very long hours in high risk physical labour where they could get killed or maimed and are simply worked to exhaustion. No doubt women work too, as poverty demands, but in most of these cases, men work the harder jobs, because they are physically stronger. Seeing this,…
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:59 AM
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In fact, even if we presume that circumcision reduces the chance of AIDS (and I do not believe that), then as discussed here (http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1nfltu/research_shows_female_genital_mutiliation_reduces/), circumcision of women also reduces their risk of AIDS, so we should be circumcising women as well. Anyone who claims male genital mutilation is acceptable because it reduces the odds of aids, must also accept female genital mutilation for exactly the same reason. My gue…
/r/MensRights30/04/14 07:43 AM
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Badly animated? :P
/r/MensRights29/04/14 01:38 PM
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Dismissal of intelligent, polite criticism / discussion I don't even know where to start with that. Considering the sheer number of feminists being harassed and sent death threats, it's hard to take this claim seriously. Everyone gets harassed online at some point and I could say something along the lines of "trolls will attack anyone", but I won't use that thought-killer when there's far better arguments to be made here. When you say stupid stuff online, people will call you on that stupidity. …
/r/MensRights25/04/14 08:39 PM
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In 2012, 3.2% of men and 2% of women were the victim of a violent crime in the Netherlands. Men were almost twice as likely to be the victim of physical abuse, almost 40% as likely to be the victim of threats and equally likely to be the victim of sexual violence (though I shall yield the numbers on sexual violence are rather small with regards to the margin of error, so its hard to interpret that one) Source: central bureau for statistics Bonus round: Men are twice as likely to be murdered as w…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:20 PM
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Obvious troll / false flag is obvious
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:12 AM
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I believe this issue (men receiving harsher sentences, getting custody less often, etc) is a symptom of a problem, rather than a cause. Thus, we shouldn't hide gender in court, but rather should strive to change how society perceives men. Once we solve the core problem - by getting rid of the horrid and wide-spread belief that men by nature of their gender are expendable, morally inferior sexual predators - will the gender bias in court disappear.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 07:50 PM
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I believe that you are telling us your story in good faith, Domjohn. I wonder however if in this case however, you have been told the full truth. Legal constructions can be very difficult to understand so someone may have misrepresented facts they did not fully understand. And that's presuming the matter is not one involving strong emotions and concern for your well being, which it undoubtedly is. There are currently men in jail for being unable to suddenly cough up 10 years of back child suppor…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:39 AM
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Don't confuse "parental rights" with "obligation to pay child support". Unfortunately, the latter does not imply the former.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:22 AM
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Ukraine is currently de-facto at war with Russia. Russia has been covertly bringing its army into Ukraine, with more forces on the border, all to attack and subvert the legitimate Ukrainian government, and attempt to annex its lands, as it already did with Crimea which rightfully belongs to Ukraine. I agree that they should have banned women as well - for more than one reason. The only thing I am outraged about, though, is that some NATO countries haven't sent home their Russian ambassadors yet!
/r/MensRights17/04/14 09:17 PM
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What I find more disturbing is that they punish this man because his -girlfriend- is being loud. I don't care how good he is to her sexually, that's some serious hypo-agency.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 06:25 AM
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This video literally presents women as objects who's only function it is to steal money from men... I find that sexist and offensive.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 11:08 AM
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This is also an important factor. I don't agree 100%, but it is a relevant addition and should be up-voted to be next to or above my own comment.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 09:04 PM
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There's several reasons for this. The simple answer is "discrimination" and that is certainly something that plays a role in family court. Generally, as a society, we have been trained (and it may be partially biologically programmed in fact) to sympathise with women, instead of with men. Look at how much more dramatic the death of a woman is in most movies compared to the sometimes hundreds of men who are killed by the "good guys". Moreover, men are trained to keep their emotions (except anger)…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 01:14 PM
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Don't touch the seat and pee standing anyway. When part of it leaks onto the seat, consider it marking your territory. What these women are doing is no different - they are establishing dominance and that this is "their" territory. So if you do the same, it should be fair game.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 12:51 PM
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"women might not be physically suited for these dangerous jobs" In the same way that whites are not physically suited to pick cotton? I know the writer holds good intent and I support that. Moreover, women are -on average- physically weaker than men. That does not mean that if a job is dangerous and physically exhaustive, a man should do it. The correct solution to dangerous situations is not to risk the strongest men, but to find a way to make that dangerous situation safer, and to prevent it f…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:13 AM
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Equality should be across the board, not just the board of directors
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:03 AM
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Topless radio. I'd watch it _^
/r/MensRights24/03/14 10:07 AM
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TIL that the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps were a "loss of identity, individuality and self-respect", "concern with animal needs" and "imprisonment". And here I was thinking it was the mass murdering, the brutal torture inflicted and the horrific experiments conducted on people. Any individual who has the audacity to compare the fate of a housewife in the 60's to a concentration camp needs to be taken on a trip to Auschwitz. Once they see the gas chambers and the ovens in which prisone…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 11:58 AM
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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:59 AM
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So there's no confusion: I reject the message linked to here which I find both offensive and disgusting.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 10:23 AM
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A relationship in which one partner feels free to casually (and by your own words "by default") dismiss the opinions of the other is just waiting to become abusive. Especially when the party who's opinion is dismissed feels forced to say their partner is "fantastic" and "I should not be too critical" (as you claim in response to RichBl). I've seen women who were constantly being belittled like that, having their feelings and arguments dismissed while they declare high and low that their partner …
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:47 AM
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Outrageous sentencing disparity. On a related note, is there a deeper reason she apologized to the mother, rather than the son? I am confused by this...
/r/MensRights22/02/14 07:52 PM
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I absolutely agree with that! My point is that many people have forgotten that fathers loving their child is just as normal as mothers loving their children. Sometimes (but not all day, every day) it is good to remind them.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:43 PM
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I don't think this picture shows a father who is "not beating or eating" his daughter. I believe this picture shows a father who loves his daughter dearly, caring more for her than he does for himself. Those two are not the same things. The problem we face in regards to custody for fathers, reproductive rights for men, etc, is twofold. First there are those who simply don't believe that discrimination against men in this area even exists. This picture will do nothing for them. We need scientific…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 10:27 AM
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Thank you for this. There may be those who will ask whether this is a men's rights issue. It is. Fathers are so often portrayed as deadbeats, as child-rapists and as abusers in media that everyone seems to have forgotten how much a father can love his children. I'm reminded of a story where a Japanese father and his child got caught in a snow storm and they found him frozen to death, body wrapped around the child wearing his coat, having sacrificed himself to keep the child warm. I wish I could …
/r/MensRights19/02/14 08:46 AM
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Guess ponies aren't covered. That's correct. They're completely naked in most scenes. :P
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:08 AM
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Did anyone notice how they actually called the husband "the victim"? I'm impressed!
/r/MensRights17/02/14 04:22 PM
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I think that is exactly the point intensely_human is making. It should be allowed to address the excesses (hopefully to help the person become aware that they have crossed a boundary so they can change their behaviour). The problem lies with words like 'slut' and 'creep' being tossed around like everyone is a shrinking violet.
/r/MensRights13/02/14 10:03 PM
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You talk a lot about how you are judged, about what people think you are supposed to be, how it does not matter what you want, etc. Who cares what these people think? Don't let the opinions of others define who you are. If parents or friends hate you because you are homosexual, you should cut them out of your life forever and let them stew in their own juices. This situation is no different. Its about how YOU choose to live YOUR life and others don't have a right to judge. What you should do is …
/r/MensRights13/02/14 12:22 PM
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Thank you for your question. I believe that women face discrimination. I also believe that men also face discrimination. More generally, I feel that in western society, especially the Netherlands where I live, men are worse off as a result of gender discrimination. This is why I am a Men's Human Rights Activist. I do like to think I am also a Women's Human Rights Activist. I am strongly opposed to discrimination against women, in the same way as I am opposed to discrimination against men. The re…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 04:57 PM
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It seems to me that if you currently cannot get a job because you are male, it won't really matter if the field is resentful of your litigation, because they weren't going to hire you anyway.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 09:12 AM
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Well researched, thank you :) I share your hope and again, I agree that compassion should be key in resolving the problems surrounding gender.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 08:11 AM
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Do you have a source supporting the claim that feminism drew child sexual abuse into the public? If true, that would affect my view on feminism. As far as I am aware however, child sexual abuse became public after the Marc Dutroux cases in Belgium and the whole scandal surrounding that. Mind you, I'm not looking for evidence that feminism once did something or another against child sexual abuse. I'm looking for evidence that they provided significant aid in bringing this matter to public attenti…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 01:52 PM
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Unfortunately, most information on Dutch law and social customs (as distinct from those of other countries) are written in Dutch. I guess it makes sense but its unfortunate for our purposes here. I can tell you the following however: The site regarding genital mutilation of women is a library site which collects information on various topics. It allows people to contribute, which requires named registration to do so and authors are paid for their contributions. I feel it is a credible source, bu…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 10:14 PM
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Here are some rights that women have which men do not in the Netherlands. My links are in Dutch, my apologies for that. Women have the right to give up an unwanted child for adoption immediately after birth, thereby abandoning all financial responsibility to the child. They may keep contact with the child if they so choose. Link in Dutch. Men do not have this right. Moreover - for children born out of wedlock - establishing legal paternity requires the permission from the mother. The mother may …
/r/MensRights05/02/14 01:48 PM
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Funny you should mention "the basics" such as the right to vote and attend University. Back when feminism was fighting for the right for women to vote, many men did not have the right to vote. That right was exclusive to rich and afluent men of high income and social standing. The regular joe, working as a manservant, or coalminer did not have the vote. Yet feminism never made active efforts to get those men to receive the vote. Neither did the regular joe have any option to go to University. Wo…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:02 PM
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It is a common misconception that Feminism means "striving for equality". Even the very word denies this premise. The word "Feminism" is based on the latin root femina or "woman". It is a movement to further the cause of women. Furthering the cause of a single gender is diametrically opposed to the goal of equality. This basic idea, feminism striving for women, is supported by the actions that feminists take. For example, feminism strived and succeeded in establishing minimum quota's for women i…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 10:18 PM
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I have never met anyone who has ever been arrested for anything o_O Not at work, not amongst my friends, not amongst my classmates, not amongst my relatives. I'm not saying a far acquaintance of mine was never arrested, but honestly those numbers seem completely insane to me... I certainly recognise the sexism inherent to those numbers, but by the Gods, I think the bigger problem is that either a third of America's youth is criminal or the legal system has gone completely coo-coo!
/r/MensRights26/01/14 09:34 PM
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I don't understand... Are you suggesting that when I tell my mother to wear her seatbelt, I am not blaming my mother if I fear the accident may be caused by bad road conditions, but that I am blaming her if I fear another driver might deliberately cause the accident in an attempt to murder her? Could you explain to me how the intentionality of the event I am warning about determines whether or not I am committing an act of love or an act of hatred?
/r/MensRights23/01/14 09:41 PM
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Seeing my mother sitting in the passenger seat of my car without wearing a seatbelt is something that scares me. When I see her sitting there without the black band over her shoulder and hips, my mind begins to race and I imagine her flying through the car window when I am forced to pull on the breaks to prevent a collision. I see her mangled body lying on the asphalt twenty meters in front of the car in the middle of the highway. I run towards her, sirens of an ambulance in the distance that wi…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 09:20 PM
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How fortunate for you that you have never been shamed in that way. That you have never heard anyone say that pornography is disgusting (as I am sure you watch it, like everyone else on the internet). That you have never been told "that is all men ever think about" or "men think about sex every five seconds", or that "men need to spread their seed", with the clear implication that this is something bad. That you have never gotten dark glances from other parents when you photograph your little gir…
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:19 AM
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Examples of cheating according to this list: Telling his doctor that he is suffering from erectile disfunction without telling the girlfriend Calling the girlfriend a scardycat when she screams in terror over a half-inch spider Knowing a funny person with a vagina Desiring to make his girlfriend happy after a fight and asking his mother for advise Making any choice regarding his looks that the girlfriend disagrees with Passing on helpful tips from a female friend Whoever wrote this list sounds l…
/r/MensRights17/01/14 04:24 PM
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I am reminded of a tale I read from a paramedic, I do not remember the exact source unfortunately. In a particularly busy night they had two suicide calls they were sent to. The first was a woman who had attempted suicide. She had taken a bottle of aspirins and had called her friend to alert her of this fact, who in turn alerted 9-1-1. After some talking, the women stepped into the ambulance on her own power and had her stomach pumped at the hospital. The second suicide was a war veteran who's w…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 11:16 PM
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In the scenario you describe, the person who posts these "warning" flyers instead of going to the police is delivering vigilante justice. They are undermining the justice system itself, and should not just be charged with slander, but with obstruction of justice. Additionally, they might be charged with conspiracy to commit grievous bodily harm or conspiracy to commit murder, depending on what they put on the flyer and what the resulting outcome was. In my humble opinion, it is by far a worse cr…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 02:49 PM
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Clarification: nick012000 did not ask "who says it is not?", but rather he stated a that "Whois", a method of determining the owner of a domain name, claims that the domain name does not (yet) have an owner.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 01:18 PM
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As Ireland is a country in the European Union, I believe this ruling can be challenged at the European Court of Human Rights, based on the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms - Article 14 That said, this was in February 2012, so it might very well be that it already was. I could not find anything on this when Googleing this quickly.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 08:21 AM
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I agree with you. The whole point of collective health insurance is so we all share the collective burden of healthcare cost. And its not always women who benefit from such things. Recently an EU court ruled that it was not legal to charge young men more for car insurance than young women based on the statistic that young men made more insurance claims. If its good for the goose, its good for the gander.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:38 PM
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I fully agree that plea bargains are part of a broken system. The defendant is often put between a rock and a hard place, being blatantly lied to by police and prosecution about law and the actual evidence they have, while relying on the support of a lawyer who has a financial interest in making the case be over and done with as fast as possible (they can earn more with clients who aren't being paid for by the state) However, the same can be argued for banks and mortgages. Here the mortgage take…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:23 PM
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In the Netherlands where everyone has to have insurance by law, women use up about 66% of the health budget: most healthcare is spent on the elderly and women live longer. As a result, if gender ratings were allowed, men would pay less, and women more and if age ratings were allowed, the young would pay less and the elderly more. Since they are not, everyone pays the same. Were gender rating allowed before the introduction of general healthcare in the United States?
/r/MensRights15/01/14 12:15 PM
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I understand why someone absolutely needs to sign a mortgage. Without a mortgage, they might become homeless, they might lose custody of their children without a home and it might be 42 degrees below zero outside making not-having-a-home the same as death. However when you sign a mortgage, you are required to pay up each month. As crippling as those payments might be, as much as you may not be able to bear the economic burden, as much as you may not be able to feed your children, you still are r…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 12:03 PM
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<sarcasm>Yes... in parallel, more restaurants should have "whites only" toilets. I mean, who would want to sit on a toilet that was used by a negro?</sarcasm> I'm not arguing there aren't women who feel icky using a toilet on which a man has sat. I'm arguing that their feelings are unreasonable, sexist, and disgusting and should not be catered to.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 08:21 AM
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Imagine if there are two factories, A and B who both produce bicycles and they are the only makers of bicycles in the country. Both own expensive production machines and various patents thereby making it harder for other companies to enter the market. Normally, factory A and B would compete with one another, thereby lowering prices for consumers, motivating them to produce more efficiently. These factories however could make a deal to keep prices at a certain level. They would both profit at the…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:15 AM
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For the same reason that companies who hold a monopoly on goods are restricted in how they can use that monopoly to push out competitors or control other markets, companies and individuals are (and imho should be) limited in the way they can make public offers of trade. This isn't a private organization making an arrangement with a private person. This is someone who is making a public offer and therein lies the crux. They are in effect offering a trade. Money (with a certain earmark on what it …
/r/MensRights04/01/14 11:58 PM
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Very nicely put!
/r/MensRights03/01/14 04:13 PM
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Interesting. You argue that since the MHRM does not have a clear consensus, therefore it is defined by what kind of self-identifying people it is comprised of. I disagree with you, but let us for the sake of argument presume you are correct and that your logic holds. If you apply this reasoning, then you cannot pick and choose the properties you want to apply to us and discard the ones you don't. Some members of the MHRM are identify as Christians, and some as Atheists. Some identify as Democrat…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 04:12 PM
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And some people are members of both Catholicism and of the democrats. Does this mean democratic values are representative of Catholicism? Or that Catholicism is representative of the democrats party?
/r/MensRights03/01/14 02:41 PM
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There are Catholics who believe that negro's should not marry whites. Why is it relevant?
/r/MensRights03/01/14 02:40 PM
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This is very true. While not all MHRA's are pick up artists and not all pickup artists are MHRA's, there definitely exist people who identify as both MHRA and as pick up artists. The overlap you identify is there. But I do not see how it is relevant. Not all Catholics are democrats and not all democrats are Catholics, yet there exist people who identify both as democrats and as Catholic. There is an overlap here too. Do you believe the pope should be held accountable for Obama-care?
/r/MensRights03/01/14 01:49 PM
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I disagree not with the assertion that men are generally stronger than women, but I do disagree with the assertion that they are therefore better soldiers. In today's battlefield, body-strength is largely irrelevant on a strategic scale. Now, let's be clear: I am not saying that it would not be advantageous in tactical situations to have stronger men present rather than weaker men (or women). However, it is absolutely insane to think that every job in the armed forces requires physical strength.…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 10:30 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story. I trust you when you tell it and it is brave of you to stand up to them. I can understand why some are sceptical however, please allow me to explain why: Perhaps this was an error, but when you stated your view about the police records regarding your sexual assault, and that you "had a police report where they stated repeatedly that you wanted it", this makes it appear as if the person who raped you was in fact the person in charge of the sexual harassment / vio…
/r/MensRights30/12/13 09:23 AM
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Thank you for the invitation! I would agree with your assessment that we have expressed our points and do not have much to add on this specific topic. I will have a look around there and see if I can add something to the discussion!
/r/MensRights25/12/13 12:14 AM
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Before I continue, I have not called you irrational. I have said your feelings on a particular matter were irrational. Someone can have irrational feelings without being irrational. I know I have irrational feelings sometimes - in fact, more often than I would like to admit :) With that cleared up, you are absolutely correct that you did not say "You are an Atheist". I inferred this was what you were thinking however from your statement: You found my comparison of Atheism vs Christianity to Men'…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 09:00 PM
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You're being overly pedantic and that's why I find you patronizing. You're still doing it. I cannot take your feelings into account if they are irrational. What I said - and what GuitarsAreKindaCool said - was not patronizing. I explained why already. If you still choose to interpret it that way, despite of this, that is entirely on you. Nope, I was raised Jewish. If this proves that you did not see my example through a coloured perspective, what does the fact that I was raised a Christian tell …
/r/MensRights24/12/13 12:21 AM
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Thank you for your reply. I disagree with your assertion that it is patronizing to say "feminists frequently post here and don't respond". This statement is one expressing of a fact. As such, it can be either true, or false. It cannot be patronizing. In this case, it may very well be false. I do not know. But false or true, a fact cannot be patronizing. "You realize that, right?" however, is patronizing. It suggests that not only is what was said before it obvious, but that I should have probabl…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 10:59 PM
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Webquean, I agree with you that saying that "/Mensrights holds feminists capable of more than <bad stuff that is attributed to them>" is patronizing and demeaning. Even if someone disagrees with us on that, certainly any reasonable person can agree that such a statement is not exactly pro-feminism. The poster that OP linked to here says that feminism holds that men capable of more than <bad stuff that is attributed to them>. I think GuitarsAreKindaCool feels this poster is likewise patronizing a…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 09:31 AM
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Posting this image here is like a newborn Christian coming to /r/Atheism saying that the flaws in the Bible and problems in the churches are caused by the devil and therefore all Atheists should become Christians. Its not that the Atheists don't agree that there are flaws in the Bible and problems in the churches, it's that they do not believe in the devil, or God for that matter, so the entire premise that becoming Christians would solve this problem is ludicrous to them. Likewise it is not tha…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:39 PM
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It seems quite clear that this was a game being played between coworkers and perhaps even children. It may have been a game to the women, but I get the distinct feeling it was not a game to the young man. I will yield there are multiple interpretations possible, but even if it was a game to both sides, it seems to me it stopped being a game when he felt the need to use physical force to escape. At that point, it was no longer funny. Just because he has a penis does not mean that he cannot feel t…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 09:47 AM
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Thank you for your more detailed explanation komal! The wording of your comment tripped me up (as sometimes happens in text). I interpreted this sentence: Deeply sad though, mother already widowed must have been heartbroken. as: "This is deeply sad because the mother already widowed must have been heartbroken" That I had a kneejerk reaction to: it felt to me like the comments from Hillary Clinton regarding women being the victims of war. Clearly this was not what you intended: I should have inte…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 08:26 AM
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I do not think anyone wins in this situation...
/r/MensRights18/12/13 02:55 PM
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A group of women wanted to kiss the boy. He did not want them to kiss him and expressed this clearly The women persisted in their attempts to kiss him against his wishes, thus making this a situation of sexual assault Moreover, they collectively ganging up on him, trapping him to get him in a position where he would be unable to avoid their collective assault He tried to break through the line they created to trap him in this position In his attempt to escape from the women trying, he was stabbe…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 12:17 PM
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So according to you, because a newborn child is suffering from stress and the trauma of birth they are actually better able to handle this invasive procedure? Me thinks this be bullshit. If it was true, then how come the risk of infection and death for newborn infants is higher than for healthy adults? Shouldn't they be naturally more resilient, not less? Moreover, even if it is the case that the procedure is more risky for adults, if the risks are extremely small for the child, then even if the…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 10:47 AM
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I thought you said the procedure was extremely safe with no negative side effects (when done by a skilled experienced surgeon in a hospital) either from complication or sex enjoyment? You appear to be grasping at straws to justify a position you already realised you cannot successfully hold. Please explain to me exactly how a procedure that you claim is entirely safe without any risk of harm or negative side effects is in fact harmful and dangerous for healthy adult men, but not for vulnerable, …
/r/MensRights18/12/13 08:27 AM
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I am not going to bother attempting to convince you of the incorrectness of your evidence. Others have more than proven your point does not stand and if they did not convince you of it, neither will I. However, even presuming what you say is true (and I do not believe that it is) your evidence would not justify genital mutilation of children. First off, many of the problems described in the document, such as urinary tract infection cannot be remotely compared to diseases like smallpox which kill…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 10:27 PM
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Perhaps I misunderstand your reasoning: can you explain to me how you believe that vaccination, which causes only a very minor puncture wound that heals very quickly, is the same as the permanent removal of a significant part of the genitalia? Are you arguing that because antibodies persist inside the body that this is somehow the same as genital mutilation? When I said it was immoral to make "irreversible decisions to modify the body" I did not believe I had to clarify that I was speaking about…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 04:00 PM
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This won't help you now, but for next time: when someone touches you inappropriate like that, it is perfectly reasonable to slap them in the face with a flat hand, bonus points if it makes a very loud slapping sound, leaves a red hand-print and everyone in a 2 mile radius goes silent and stares at them. Slapping someone in the face is the universal signal for "Could you stop touching me private parts, please."
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:57 AM
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Or there is the possibility maybe she is into you? That may very well be possible, but it does not really impact the situation in the slightest. I'm pretty sure you cannot get away with grabbing a woman's breasts with the excuse that "You were into her".
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:53 AM
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We should not avoid genital mutilation because it might result in medical complications. We should avoid genital mutilation because it is morally wrong to make irreversible decisions to modify the body of people who do not or cannot consent.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:02 AM
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What a disgusting human being... To be clear: the teacher, not the student.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:35 AM
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Not sure if I am happy because wife was arrested as she should be or sad because husband was beaten and strangled...
/r/MensRights13/12/13 09:58 AM
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I think this type of logic represents the feminist idea that something can be and not be without being a contradiction There is already a word for this: Doublethink.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 04:32 PM
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I agree that peoples emotional issues need to have attention as well. Particularly, I believe justified feelings deserve to be addressed and education can be a valuable tool to help with these, when fears are based in reason. Thus, before taking any action, we should study -why- people are afraid to go out at night. If people are afraid because they erroneously believe that crime rates are significantly higher than they factually are, this would certainly justify an education campaign. Their fea…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 09:15 PM
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"Check your privilege" is not an argument and it is never valid. The statement is an argumentum ad hominem, calling the validity of the speaker into question rather than addressing the actual argument. It is a distraction, used when the argument made cannot be refuted. It suggests that a person has less right to speak on something just because they are (or are not) a member of a certain group, it is discriminatory. But what is the absolute worst thing about "check your privilege" is that its fou…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 09:52 AM
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I have three problems with the paper: It posits many questionable facts, which are -very- easy to disprove. The women's movement first started up in the 70's? Really? That was the first time women started demanding things like the vote? I'm surprised. It draws conclusions which aren't warranted, even based on the facts that are presented. For example, why would weakening of Constitutional rights of the Defendant lead to more innocent men being punished and then exonerated? I can see how it would…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 08:57 AM
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Sure! I'm speaking for The Netherlands here: When a child is born, the mother may give this child up for adoption, regardless of the wishes of the father, and thereby absolve herself of all financial responsibility and care obligation. A father does not have this right. I'm not talking about abortion here (where one might argue about bodily integrity, right to life, etc). Merely about adoption after the birth has already been successfully completed. Mothers can dump the child without a second th…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 08:54 AM
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I think we are very much a force of good in the world right now. The simple fact that people are hearing about the movement is already a step in the right direction. Even if someone is not convinced by the ideas of men's rights, the fact that they are confronted by people who do have those idea has an impact. More points if those people have their arguments founded in reason and logical facts. Even if we never convince anyone, the sole fact that we don't accept the dogma means the dogma is stand…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:30 PM
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We should make a counter poster with a "add a vagina" thing. I don't have the statistics here, but many fields pay women more then men. For one, women in construction earn more than men in construction (as men are more likely to do the manual labour while women are more likely to be employed as architects). Or turn it around and list hours worked only.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:41 AM
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Of course, a quota for the boardroom, but no quota for construction workers, for garbage collectors or for soldiers, despite those positions having similar male to female ratio's. It seems inherently unfair to me that the desirable top positions get a quota, but not the positions where the work is physically exhaustive, dirty or dangerous. Equality should be across the entire board, not just the board of directors.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:49 AM
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I never made those suggestions. I was unsure what part of the world that person was from, and why anyone would create a girl's only gym in the first place, or why someplace would deny self-defense courses to a man. If I generalized, I am deeply sorry. I learn best by participating. Thank you for clarifying this. These kind of generalizations are far too commonly made, often without people even realising they are making them. We might be a bit easily triggered on these things as a result. My apol…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:22 PM
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Your suggestion about 3 regarding India and about 1 regarding gyms are deeply, deeply offensive. I believe this may be why you get some rather harsh words from people. Allow me to explain: What you are suggesting is that only men make acid attacks and that all men are suspects for the single fact that they are men. That only men commit sexual harassment and that all men are suspects for the single fact that they are men. If you are not, then any suggestion for segregation is completely and utter…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:10 AM
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Well said! I'll go one further. There exists no such thing as "devolving". The term in and of itself is nonsensical. The idea of 'devolution' is based on the presumption that evolution is always trying to make a 'better' individual. But evolution does not do that. Rather, species mutate randomly. Then evolution selects those traits that are successful, because successful individuals are more likely to procreate. Thus, if a species evolves to have a certain trait, it is always a better situation …
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:08 PM
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Most disturbing. I had no idea T_T Thanks for the link
/r/MensRights15/11/13 02:18 PM
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Next up, new laws to prevent children who were raped by catholic priests from speaking up, to preserve the peace in the local churches. Mind you, I would really like a better source to say paternity tests are actually outlawed in France / Germany, cause I find that shocking o_O
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:42 PM
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At least through convictions like this one, we know we can safely let sex-offenders babysit our children and take them camping for a week in the woods. After all, a sex-offender is just someone who had a bad kiss fifteen years ago. I feel safer knowing that all the sex-offenders in my neighbourhood are actually normal people who are not a danger to anyone. /s
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:00 AM
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Thanks for your feedback. I believe that if a woman has the right to separate sex from procreation as she currently does (i.e. she does not get forced into motherhood for the sole fact that she had sex, having options such as the morning after pill, abortion and adoption), then this should hold for a man as well. It seems inherently unfair to me to say "sure, the condom tore, but if you did not want a child, you should not have had sex" to a man but then allow women to give up the child for adop…
/r/MensRights13/11/13 09:49 AM
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Thanks for your feedback. The argument you make is a good one, I shall think of it some more. I agree with you on the unfairness of child support btw, though I think it is a separate issue, i.e. this is 'should the father be able to not be responsible financially at all', whereas child support is a matter of 'presuming the father is financially responsible, how much and how should this be executed.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 09:41 AM
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The cognitive dissonance of some people never seizes to amaze me...
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:21 PM
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Can confirm, saw the deleted post before it was deleted.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:50 PM
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This is not currently law yet, it is merely a proposal being backed by several parties. However, it looks like it may become law. The details are bit subtle, and its not as great as one would think, but it is definitely a step in the right direction, so here's to that!
/r/MensRights06/11/13 04:15 PM
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Anyone who says they are specifically against violence against women and girls is in effect saying they are for violence against men and boys. Otherwise they'd have said they were against violence, period.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:53 AM
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Chivalry is traditionally the code of conduct of knights, a moral code by which they protect those who cannot protect themselves. This was combined with a 'romance' element originally conceived in the later half of the middle ages by travelling bards, who suggest courtly love, which involved the notably non-physical worship of a beautiful woman of higher birth (often at a distance) by a knight against whatever odds there may be. The romanticised Lancelot and Guinevere is just one of countless ex…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:44 AM
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Unfortunately as a female we sometimes need to assume the worst in people to protect ourselves. Except you don't (at least not in the Netherlands where I'm from - I don't have numbers for other locations): Men are the victims of 60% of all violent crimes in the Netherlands (CBS, 2012 Dutch). Men are the victims of 65% of murders in the Netherlands (CBS, 2008-2012 Dutch) This means he has 1.5 to 2 times as much reason to be afraid of becoming the victim of violence than you do. To be clear, of co…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:26 AM
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Ah, I see! This is a very different situation from what I imagined and I completely agree that is a scumbag move.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 01:47 PM
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If you're so drunk you can no longer distinguish between a pint and a double pint, you should probably should have stopped drinking a while ago, those are two very different amounts any child can distinguish. To be clear, I'm not talking about someone sneaking a mickey into a glass or secretly adding vodka to what their partner thinks is regular beer. I'm talking about someone drinking a drink just as it was poured by the bartender. If you drink something for which you don't know the alcohol con…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:57 PM
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I've heard of scumbags drinking cokes while buying doubles for the person they're at a bar with, and that's wrong, and likely why the law was made, but it definitely wasn't intended to absolve women of responsibility after regrettable or embarrassing hook ups. Why do you think this is wrong? Are they forcing the 'doubles' down women's throats using a funnel? Is there a law of physics that prevents women from not drinking doubles people buy for them? Will the barman beat her up if she refuses to …
/r/MensRights01/11/13 09:34 AM
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While I do believe there is a level of discrimination involved (womens lives being more valuable then mens lives), I also think there is another - disturbing - factor at work: the sex appeal of the disease. To be clear, I do not think people feel cancer is sexy. Just that people thinking about breasts think beautiful women (even if most of the victims are older) while people thinking about prostates think about elderly men (who simply aren't as sexy to think about). Advertising gladly makes use …
/r/MensRights31/10/13 04:52 PM
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So it's 2 wolfs and 1 sheep deciding on what to eat. This is a rather unfortunate comparison considering they are giving guns to the sheep afterwards. :P
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:48 AM
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For a psychology book, the writers sure didn't take the time to look at how using positive words to describe females while using negative ones to describe males might affect people. You'd think psychologists would be able to write things down in a neutral way rather than guiding the reader in what to think.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:33 AM
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Don't teach your sons to cross the streets. Teach your daughters self-defence. Clarification: because self-defence will give them confidence to walk alone at night without being afraid of every shadow and in the very unlikely event of an attack, they'll be able to take care of themselves.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 09:28 AM
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Very powerful.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 08:49 AM
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The formulas used to generate search results (and suggestions) are more than merely repeating things you searched for before. They actively profile you, predict your interests even in fields you've never entered before, and then provide suggestions, and this may involve looking at the interests of other users who share similar search interests. Google appears to have predicted (accurately or not so accurately) that given the entry "men should not" and "women should not" you are more interested i…
/r/MensRights22/10/13 10:11 AM
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The most disturbing fact about this whole thing is that people have no clue how Google actually works, and that is very relevant here. Google tracks everything you do online through their near omni-present advertising system. Then, based on your earlier searches as well as your browsing history and other data they can gather such as information you put in your YouTube profile and comments you leave there or emails you send using g-mail, it builds a detailed profile of your interests and likes. T…
/r/MensRights22/10/13 07:27 AM
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Almost everyone here acknowledges that women face their own set of problems which need solving. What we have a problem with is a group (feminism) that pretends to be able to define and solve all gender based problems by caring only about the problems women face. To put it in a simplified analogy, just because I dislike Greenpeace doesn't mean I don't care about the environment.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:27 PM
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This really seems like a troll post to be honest...
/r/MensRights16/10/13 12:47 PM
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"First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the homosexuals, the mexicans, the members of anonymous, the whistleblowers, the criminals, the jews, the atheists, the chinese, the gun-nuts, the liberals and the reporters, and I didn't speak out because…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 09:24 AM
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Very interesting read with some very insightful idea's!
/r/MensRights15/10/13 11:08 AM
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Did you just call the MRA a tiny minority of angry men? Millions of men were "more than happy" to get themselves killed in wars so their women would be safe at home, but that does not mean male disposability is acceptable and we should just let them continue selective service as a male only obligation. I furthermore disagree with your assertion that fewer women would go clubbing - the need to find a mate won't disappear and the club can earn more money from cover charges and in turn increase the…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:51 AM
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Sounds good, but I wouldn't watch and support simply based on the fact that you raise awareness of double standards. The material needs to be able to stand solidly on its own, not just work because its what we want to hear. I have no doubt you'll manage to pull that off though, so keep us informed!
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:46 AM
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Next up, the Netherlands starts selling quality marijuana, mushrooms and offering legal prostitution at its embassies in Israel. /s
/r/MensRights14/10/13 02:34 PM
1

I see. thank you for the clarification.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 12:43 PM
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I'm so sorry you are stuck in this horrible situation. This situation is absolutely outrageous!
/r/MensRights11/10/13 10:58 AM
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Wait, isn't prostitution illegal? What's next, police arresting a fence because he agreed to sell a stolen painting but then refusing to do so, leaving the thief with an unsellable painting? A hit-man going to jail for not completing a murder he was paid for? Drug-dealer arrested because the weed he sold was actually dried broccoli? IANAL so please disregard this comment if prostitution is legal in that area, but this seems very strange to me...
/r/MensRights11/10/13 09:09 AM
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Thanks, that makes sense!
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:18 PM
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Is there a reason the link is not accessible for "non-adults" or is it just some odd type of censorship?
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:19 AM
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The np link is the reason you cannot comment on it. I feel the same way as you do btw.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 09:14 AM
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NO! We do things the normal way! You're the ones that are different! :P
/r/MensRights10/10/13 08:14 AM
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They outsource entire factories to China due to lower wages. Clearly Chinese are paid less than Americans. However, I've never heard of a company firing all men to be replaced by women due to lower wages. If an employer could pay an equally qualified woman less money to do the same work in the same quantity and at the same quality as a man, based purely on her gender, why would companies ever even hire any men to begin with? Any argument that women get paid less for the same work under the same …
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:42 PM
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Excellent points, thanks for sharing with us. I think the Indiegogo campaign was unfortunately timed as well, right after they made a call for money for the ridiculous security fees imposed. People can only give so much so often.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 12:55 PM
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The problem is not the lawyer. The problem is that the odds of a guy doing exactly the same things would get off with a similar plea deal is zero.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 08:55 AM
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If our idea's cannot stand against the tides of those who would destroy them for their personal gain, we need to improve the strength of our idea's, not fall victim to the same tactics of disruption and subterfuge. Strength is not destroying others, but living despite of danger.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 01:50 PM
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I don't have to prove to you I'm not a rapist. You had best assume I'm not a rapist until the contrary is proven. If that leaves you feeling unsafe... you have a problem. Not me. It's not my responsibility to make you feel safe.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 09:09 AM
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"Hollis’ recent articles have included criticism of outdated gender roles in the historical drama Downton Abbey" I have no words to express the conceptual stupidity of this.
/r/MensRights02/10/13 09:59 AM
2

Perhaps it was... Ah well
/r/MensRights02/10/13 09:51 AM
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I am not a Psychiatrist but... This girl seems to be going through a lot of effort to be alone with you regularly. Do her pupils dilate when she berates you? The issue here might not be discrimination so much as unclear boundaries. She probably has no father in her life or a father who is not present a lot and as such has no male role models despite desperately wanting one. Stop saying "uh okay" which confirms to her she is doing the right thing and has a right to berate you. Moreover, this will…
/r/MensRights02/10/13 08:04 AM
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A block with a single skyscraper full of apartments will house more men than a block consisting of three large villas. What I want to see is not how many divorced men there are in certain spots in absolute numbers, but what percentage of people who live in an area are divorced men. This thing has a serious risk of becoming a demographic map rather than anything of significance otherwise.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 02:29 PM
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How ironic... Will we now have a UN sponsored campaign to mutilate young girls?
/r/MensRights30/09/13 01:40 PM
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Why are these kind of quota's always being applied only to cushy leadership positions? Why is there no quota for garbage-collectors? Why is there no quota for piano-movers? Why is there no quota for soldiers? It seems inherently unfair to me that desirable top positions get a quota while work that is dirty, physically exhaustive or dangerous is left untouched. Equality should be across the entire board, not just the board of directors!
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:13 AM
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I would ask as many men as I could to attend these events with me. If sign up is required, I'd sign them up as "Rosa Parks" and variations thereof. Segregation of men and women under the guise that men 'cannot behave themselves' is the same as keeping Negro's out of your stores on the basis that they will rob it.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:04 AM
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Yes, this needs significantly more information, like what was the exact text of the email and what if any response has been received?
/r/MensRights27/09/13 11:13 AM
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I'm discussing the second case here. First case we agree upon. Let's compare this to a bicycle accident where I ride my bicycle into another cyclist. Luckily we're both fine, but the wheel of the other drivers bicycle has become crooked and the steering wheel is now loose. The bike cannot be safely driven anywhere. We might argue over who should pay for the damaged bike and who is responsible for the accident. Maybe we both are. In the case of the 20 year old, both chose to have sex. Both are eq…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 10:28 AM
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Thank you for this detailed analysis!
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:25 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that too. "I don't love who you are, but don't worry, we'll change all that to make you into a desirable partner". Just wow...
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:44 AM
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Being a non-native speaker, I always pronounce womyn as wo-MINE. Then I challenge them to stop thinking of womyn as property.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:39 AM
1

Excellent addition. Makes it MUCH more clear!
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:48 AM
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I wouldn't blame feminism (or mention it even). It makes us seem like a counter-movement instead of one with its own foundation. Here's an example with the feminism cut out and a few words changed, which I believe is more clear. I also swapped the order of some examples to be more effective. "My primary concern is that we [get rid of] laws that discriminate based on gender. There are [still too many] laws that discriminate against men. For example, many places have laws that require the police t…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:48 AM
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I'd mention men are affected disproportionately by these problems or people won't understand why its called the mens rights movement instead of the humanitarian society.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:41 AM
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Don't start with a negative. It sets the wrong mood and suggests that this is in fact what you are trying to do. Mens rights issues are important enough to stand on its own without the need to contrast it to womens rights at all. I wouldn't say "its not about undoing women's rights", but I would demonstrate it by the points you want to address instead. Only if the other party asks about womens rights should you mention that its not in opposition. As an example, I wouldn't juxtapose men dying on …
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:39 AM
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95% chance people will go "uh? no...?" when you get to the bottom 95%. I'd not contrast 5% to 95% but instead focus on the bottom 5% as a juxtaposition. People will be more willing to recognise this. The brevity of your example is most excellent.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:34 AM
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Excellent pitch! I love how you explain about your son, which makes it a personal story that people can relate to easily. Perhaps some of the examples can be made a bit more clear such as instead of "not be drugged or punished for being a boy" saying "not be drugged or punished for acting out as boys sometimes do", but in general this one is very strong!
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:32 AM
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While important, I think this focusses too much on a single point, and your entire story is undermined if person X your conversation partner happens to think of turns out to be (at least in their mind) guilty. In fact, don't go for the "famous man" example at all. People love the schadenfreude of seeing highly successful (which famous people almost invariably are) figure fall a bit too much. Instead, focus on a specific example of a falsely accused man and the effect this has had on his life (de…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:30 AM
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Excellent examples. I think many of the other posters can use these. Your first point is imprecise. I'd reword as "80% of people committing suicide are men according to SOURCE, and we need to find out why." Second one will make people go "bullshit, this isn't Africa". Men as majority prisoners makes it seem as if men are more criminal then women. Instead, call to emotion and say something along the lines of "In an effort to make ends meet for their families and themselves, men are turning to cri…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:25 AM
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Your explanation is short (which is good) and to the point (also good), but someone who is unaware of the actual issues will go "Of course women are adults and men are human beings and everyone loves science and facts and equality, wtf are you on about?" All of what you say is reasonable, now you need to prove that this reasonable situation is not actually currently the case yet otherwise you risk alienating people who simply don't see the problem yet.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:10 AM
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Your introduction doesn't provide any context. People will have no idea what you're on about. They aren't aware of the widespread under-empathy for male suffering and won't know how to place it. Moreover, even IF they place it, they might feel as if they are part of the system that causes this (and likely they are) and get defensive. I'd turn it into something along these lines. "The MRM seeks to bring attention to the hidden suffering of men, such as <examples relevant to listener>" By calling …
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:06 AM
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If you start with these questions, you should add a third question at the start - it helps if things come in threes. But I don't think you should start with these questions: the rest of your pitch doesn't follow (directly) from the questions you use as introduction, making your pitch seem incoherent to someone not familiar with the materials. The unfortunate fact is, most people won't recognise the blame / oppressor / replaceable dialogue because they are utterly unfamiliar with the concept of m…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:53 AM
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Sexism, noun: discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex What they are doing is redefining the meaning of words to suit their political agenda. Do what I do in such cases: tell them their definition is doubleplusungood.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:20 AM
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Thank you for sharing this :)
/r/MensRights17/09/13 07:19 AM
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Can you post a picture of this?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:28 PM
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I agree with you and want to add: You don't have to say that you don't think its a girls fault if she gets raped because of the way she dresses. There's always a psycho or two, but people don't think that way and people should presume you aren't a psycho. The idea that men say its a girls fault is a feminist misdirection, who are trying to change "its probably not smart to do this because something bad may happen as a result" into "therefore it is your fault if it happens and you weren't smart" …
/r/MensRights12/09/13 11:14 AM
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I agree with your core point. Wanting your Child Support being spent on your child certainly seems to me like a thing that a reasonable person would consider to be normal. It is outrageous that this is not -apparently- the case for your son. That said, I think you would stand a lot more chance to change the situation you and your son if you took a serious and detailed look at how you appear to other people. Now, I don't know you. I just read your posts here. However if the impression I get is an…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 11:17 AM
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Excellent and insightful rebuttal!
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:41 AM
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I don't have to prove I don't hate women because I advocate mens rights anymore than I have to prove I don't rape children just because I'm out in a park or than I have to prove I'm not a crazy-ass murderer just because I walk on a quiet street at night. People should assume I'm a decent human being. If they start with the presumption that because unrelated condition X I might be evil Y, I don't have any interest in talking to them.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 08:09 AM
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I don't drink alcohol, but this is a very positive message. Thumbs up!
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:56 AM
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Excellent point!
/r/MensRights06/09/13 02:30 PM
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When I buy gasoline, I can choose from different companies, because they essentially offer the same interchangeable service (gasoline). So if I dislike, say, the environmental policies of one of those companies, I can go to a different one. My car won't notice. While in theory there are non-YouTube video services, in practice these services are so excessively dwarfed by YouTube that the comparison goes blank, because while I can upload my video, I will not have a tenth of a percent of the visito…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:45 PM
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We're not an action group that wants to stop an airfield being built in a specific geographical area or that wants to save the panda. Rather we are a movement that wants to change a general trend. We can name a list of various goals for the MRM, but it would not be a complete list, nor would every MRA agree on all of them. Amongst the goals I hope to accomplish with the MRM are: Stopping the genital mutilation of boys Ending the men-only status of the draft Introducing legislation for Legal Pate…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 11:29 AM
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Men's Rights is the radical idea that men are people. \s EDIT & CLARIFICATION: I forgot a \s - this was meant as a parody on the feminism slogan but it didn't come out of the paint very well. Sorry all T_T
/r/MensRights06/09/13 08:05 AM
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