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0	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? you clearly do have a problem with it because when I said it the first time your response was to disagree on the most pointless grounds because you where triggered that RPers gave an answer you couldn't refute. But that's not what my OP is about, and not the sentiments I'm talking about in my OP Who gives a fuck? Defining a strawman redpill position and recruiting people to defend it is ridiculous. What you claim is a "Proposed solution" is up for debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/25 12:12 AM
0	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Your reply to my point an entirely irrelevant disagreement that you clearly just typed out becuase you cant refute what I said but also cant handle the emotional hit of just conceding the point. Again this is why BP always looses your arguments do not hold up at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 11:54 PM
0	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Okay, sure... I do think that's already how most people date though Idk why that is relevant to even say, also this whole post is about rp advice why would advice to a general population be to do what you are already doing? That defeats the point of advice. Ur just triggered at this point. Why are you getting pissy at me and making things personal? Im not, im just not coddling you like a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 11:49 PM
1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? It absolutely is, if we wanted to settle down with these men we would Its not the advice, which is more conservative advice that many RPers agree with because its just true, is to find the most attractive man that will commit instead of chasing the most attractive man that is also attracted to the woman. Men determining who they do and don't think is "on our level looks wise" doesn't magically create desire in women That's not how that works You can't just give a woman a rating, and a man the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 11:37 PM
-1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Hypergamy is not a state its a psychological inclination.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:56 PM
4	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Your comment: So can you explain how this isn't just circular reasoning at that point? If we start with the belief that women are hypergamous (in this manner), and so she always chooses her best option, then de facto any man a woman is with was her best option. This can't be disproven. No women could ever pair with a guy who wasn't her best option (for whatever reason), because if she's with him then he was her best option. Which also makes me question then in that case how can women "choose bet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:38 PM
3	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Everything you said is wrong but its also besides the point. Respond to my actual argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:26 PM
1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? In this para In a post tagged Plus your comment here argues that this is a red pill idea	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:21 PM
1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? I don’t care what women do. But if a woman can’t find an attractive man willing to commit, it means she has an extremely unattractive personality, is delusional, or both. It’s not good for society to respect these wants and they have no right to attractive men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:16 PM
-5	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? No "best" is a weasel word that allows you to jump around from different definitions whenever you feel like you are loosing the argument. When RP talks about hypergamy this is exactly what they mean.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 10:10 PM
1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Ok and some red pillers love chocolate ice cream, that doesnt mean liking chocolate ice cream is redpill doctrine. Redpillers believing in something does not mean redpill has doctrine and some people believing in in two ideas does not mean those two ideas are the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:37 PM
-6	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? Because women don't choose their "best" option, hypergamy is the pursuit of the option with the highest value in the sexual market place. So women can choose better by having a multi dimensional judging matrix, and valuing things outside of pure SMV like, likelihood to commit, moral integrity etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:35 PM
-1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? AF/BB is red-pill doctrine Ok and the point hes making is that societal "solutions" are not redpill doctrine because red pill doesn't have doctrine, its a praxeology. Redpill is not a concern with or advocates for any type of greater fix to society, its just a method for men who are interested in understanding the world around them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:28 PM
1	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? The solution proposed is that these women settle down very early with undesirable men (because as is established, desirable men have options and men with options don't commit to women). These men by definition of the red-pill are the least desirable demographic of men, with neither looks; money; nor status to offer the most desirable group of women that all men want. But at least the women will have committed relationships, and the men will have sex; legacy; and companionship with women who have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:24 PM
2	How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men? The dude can be worse than her in every conceivable metric, but if he's better than her other options she's still hypergamous? yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/25 09:19 PM
10	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. and women also are the ones that call for divorce in most cases so the women likey feel like they have outgrown the man	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 01:39 AM
-1	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. women hate accountability	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 11:44 PM
0	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. its much more likely to be cope	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 11:37 PM
8	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. These prove correlation but not your conclusion. Its just as possible from this that women who feel they are in a positon of power within the relationship are likey to abuse it and therefore the only men that get into relationships under these dynamics are men with low self esteem who dont think they value being treated better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 11:33 PM
–	I feel like the "women want bad boys" rhetoric is an outdated notion from a millennials who still think the notion applies for gen-z but you hate men so ofc you would say this lol. You should jus change your flair to blue pill and stop larping at purple pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 08:13 PM
–	Majority of "misandrists" are men. You clearly do, you collectively blame all men for the actions of what are literally a tiny minority. That's by definition bigoted stereotyping and gender based hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 08:09 PM
5	Majority of "misandrists" are men. It does have to be actual hatred, thats what the word means. Also your logic makes no sense, you cant just assume every man who harms another is doing it because he hates men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 08:07 PM
2	Majority of "misandrists" are men. Men definitely don't think highly of other men Yeah they think of other men a normal amount.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 08:05 PM
1	Majority of "misandrists" are men. Some person on a red pill forum says some thing does not mean this is what red pill says. Also this is just a dumb argument ofc social costs are part of the reason men don't rape, social costs are part of the reason women don't rape as well, women aren't more altruistic they are just less able and have lower sex drives. No one is 100% altruistic, punishments and costs are always why people choose not to do bad things. Moreover these quotes are referring to the minority of men who don't have the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 08:03 PM
-1	Modern Feminism today is about fighting for Privileges ,not Rights. Is it something you also want to adress with said gamers screaming murders about muscular or "unfeminine" or "not sexy enough" women in video games? They're allowed to speak their minds, others are allowed to speak their minds about their opinions, etc. What's the problem? Do you think we should all just not be allowed to do so? invalid comparison men have the right to complain because we are the customers and target audience, feminists are activists and cultural infiltrators. They are not askin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/25 10:54 PM
0	Men simply don't value women no matter what they bring on the table No men just do not value the same things women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/25 11:48 PM
9	Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to Be Worse Partners? But even ugly men can be abusive. Even to attractive women. But there are more repercussions to an ugly guy being abusive socially so less of them will be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/25 12:23 AM
7	Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to Be Worse Partners? Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to be Worse Partners? Its simple a lot of pro social behaviour is enforced by social environment, so more attractive men simply have less reason to be good partners so more of them will be worse partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/25 12:23 AM
0	Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't? so long as it is not used to pressure people into using it or making people feel unattractive without it. but that is literally what it has done lol. You talk to most women and they would agree they feel pressure to wear makeup, even when there is no hard rule or implicit expectation to do so. The reason is women are hard wired to compete with each other aesthetically, so if you allow one to pull ahead with makeup they will literally all feel compelled to keep up with the meta game and will feel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 04:12 AM
1	Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't? Like antlers do have the function of defence from predators and rivals, that being said I understand your position. Dear shed their antlers in winter and most of the time the antlers they arent even useful for fighting because they are still growing and covered in velvet. Antler growth is to purely for sexual selection and the leading theory on why is that it signals to female dear: "look im so healthy I can spend a ton of resources to grow these useless things on my head and im still able to li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 04:03 AM
2	Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't? Style and fashion don't do much to improve the looks(by looks I mean sexual attraction not aesthetics) of either men or women. Style and fashion for sure do a lot, it might not make a 5 a 9 but if ur an avg guy you can definfely set yourself above the norm since most guys put in very little effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 03:54 AM
1	Positive Masculinity so your version of positvie masuclinty is that men have 2 dimensional personalities and are capable of super human levels of violence. Really proving your point lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 06:00 PM
4	Telling women to be traditional is wrong, you can’t control someone else’s actions, only your own. Ah i see the disconnect here. Hot sorority girls are not a monolith. The 7s sure are sleeping maybe even the 8s, but the 9s and 10s they aren't mostly because they can actually demand monogamy from chad so they just hop from committed relationship to committed relationship. The minority that dont are some type of prostitute and are making money on thier looks whether its modeling OF, being a industry girl that fucks rappers and sports stars etc. When they all get old chad is never going to marry…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 05:28 AM
0	Telling women to be traditional is wrong, you can’t control someone else’s actions, only your own. your hot frat Chad will marry some hot sorority Stacy, both of them having some sexual history. No he wont stacy will hypergamously trade up to men who wont commit to her and waste her good years, then she will either settle for some beta bux she cheats on or die alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:25 AM
33	What do you assume to be the normal rate of matches the average guy on a dating app receives? Agree with most of the people commenting maybe one or two matches a month and each has a 10-30% chance of replying and those that reply will ghost the moment there is a lul in conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 08:43 PM
–	Red Pill Rhetoric: A Cheap Show of Insecurity and Fear You are definetly blue pill lmao what is up with all these BPers false claiming PP for credibility in critiquing RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 08:41 PM
1	Are unattractive men doomed to be the beta provider? building muscle and strength without worrying about also gaining fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 05:15 PM
14	Are unattractive men doomed to be the beta provider? no even if you are ugly you can still do shit like ogre maxing or other methods to increase your masculinity which will then allow for that building of desire. Also a beta provider doesnt understand or utilise his leverage at all, whereas even ugly guys can if they follow redpill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 02:21 AM
–	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems they dont even do that, women defend other women becuase women are vindictive and highly childish. So if a woman gets seen by another to not defend other women, they will take that personally and start rumours or make negative comments to said woman etc. None of this is altruistic its all fear based.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 02:15 PM
1	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems Literally exact same problem lol. What even is this comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:37 PM
2	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems It's called a gay resort. Lesbians are gay. Did you read it? Lesbians were always allowed in, the one who sued was an asshole who was kicked out for bad behaviour Dont be obtuse it was clearly something created for gay men to meet and hook up, it being called a gay resort is simply because there is no gay male equivalent term of "lesbian".	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 11:56 PM
2	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems Which ones? I'm not being snarky, it's a genuine question. Anything to do with nerd culture, so video games, comic books etc. These are all majority male spaces that have been force feminised by women. Pubs and similar drinking establishments, these places use to be like 99% male and then various governments had initiatives to force them to accommodate women. Sports aswell has a similar story to nerd culture, mostly male fanbases but there are various pushes to accommodate women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 11:54 PM
1	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems Concepts like sisterhood are typically much stronger than the concept of brotherhood This isnt true women are lying, when they seem to make friends much easier and become much more familiar with each other its not because they are more social or women are actually more open to like each other they are just engaging in this mutual farse, because if one party doesn't play along the other will spread rumours about them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 11:50 PM
2	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems I get together with 6-12 women in my neighborhood regularly, we meet at homes and restaurants The fact that half of them dont show up regularly kind of defeats the point you are making lmao. Also build a social group needs more people then just the people in it, you might meet like 50 people before you gel enough with one person to become friends with them. So you likely had the female social spaces available to you to actually create this group, men don't have that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 11:44 PM
6	Male loneliness and lack of male-only spaces are largely self-inflicted problems why not just improve girl scouts then instead of fucking up boy scouts	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/25 11:42 PM
12	Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic. heterosexuality is not an institution, its a sexuality and monogamy its not an intrinsic to it. Ths institution you are recognising are the social norms and attitudes established by Christianity within western culture that where built to establish monogamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 10:43 PM
6	Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic. Why can't you? Because you cant produce enough babies . Constant growth is not good for the survival of our species. Objectively untrue everything our humanity has achieved was because of this. There is no human progress without humans thinking that the lot of their sons can be better then the lot of theirs. . Astrophysicists did a study confirming that halting growth after a certain period was the best way to ensure even longer survival of the human species. link the study, 2. why should anyone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 10:20 PM
5	Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic. Lesbians pop out babies from sperm donors all the time. it has to be that like 99.99% of sperm doners are straight men, gay men dont want to be donors of sperm. Also this isnt sustainable because women who use sperm donors only choose a very small % of men to be the sperm donor, so in your fantasy land within a generation or two even a large society would quickly run into issues with genetic diversity. . And gay men can impregnate women. None of them want to hence why they are gay. . if anything…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 10:15 PM
10	Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic. They're basically saying heterosexuality only works (keeps marriage and families intact) when women are limited and don't have the same level of freedom men have. Wrong, that claim is about monogamy not heterosexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/25 10:09 PM
-2	Why do women seem to struggle to honestly admit to preferences which might be considered shallow? no we think women feel entitled to some things, mostly to an overall calibre of guy, and lie about how much weight they put on certain attributes of men. So an example a 6/10 will think she disserves what amounts to an 8/10 overall but lie about how much earnings and height can increase a man from say a 6 to an 8. Moreover the inherent contradictions you are picking up on are because women are incredibly hypocritical and contradictory, and will largely just say whatever in that given moment they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 05:10 PM
1	I don't understand the obsession with the Just World Fallacy on this sub What the "red pill" gets confused is cause and effect. People aren't desirable because they're mean and aloof, they're mean and aloof because they're desirable. Wrong again. Red pill doesn't say being mean and aloof makes you desirable, red pill shows that being nice doesn't meaningfully diminish your desirability, because its in response to the blue pill claim that being a nice guy is what attracts women. Also people aren't mean because they are desirable, they are mean for other reasons. Its t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 12:57 AM
5	Maybe fewer relationships are the way of the future, and we're just in a transition period... the economy is not just a game we play its the means by which we improve peoples lives, the economy crashing through population decline means peoples lives will be way worse, and by way worse I don't just mean ppl wont be able to buy iPhone and xboxes, i mean high rates of crime, suicide trauma etc. Also fuck the environment lol, what value does it hold compared to human suffering or without humans existing. Finally this perspective just makes no sense, overtime the amount of environmental damag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 12:28 AM
10	Maybe fewer relationships are the way of the future, and we're just in a transition period... That’s what they thought about slavery, secularism and letting normal people vote middle eastern countries directly disproves this lol. Iran went from a realtiviely progressive country to the people choosing to a theocracy, afghanistan had a similar trajectory. The Saudis basically have way more slaves now in the forms of indentured south Asian workers. history never moves in one direction that's a left wing propaganda.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 11:34 PM
3	Maybe fewer relationships are the way of the future, and we're just in a transition period... cruel and oppressive of itself The overwhelming majority of people are not cruel of oppressive. . or destroys its own environment out of greed and want The environment has no practical or philosophical value outside of us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 11:31 PM
4	Maybe fewer relationships are the way of the future, and we're just in a transition period... But thats not them choosing not to have families that is them saying they want to but cant afford it. And also if you look at korea for example they have really high rates of suicide and like 50% of the young people want to emigrate. So these countries actually directly disprove your position that if people just choose not to have kids it will be good for society or ok.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 11:28 PM
6	Maybe fewer relationships are the way of the future, and we're just in a transition period... wdym nothing wrong with it, it will mean a massive decrease in quality of life for everyone particularly those people born later. I find this stance from BPers so hypocritical, because you guys are usually against fucking up the environment for the next generation but seem totally ok with fucking up the economy and society for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 11:24 PM
2	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. False, you agreed BP philosophy of under valuing urself and being overly trust worthy is inferior to caution and self worth. So even you agree RP increases your chances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 11:01 PM
6	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. women understand these facts quite well so if a man goes into a relationship without understanding them he will devalue himself, overvalue the woman and not understand her motives at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 10:08 PM
3	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. Well that's what redpill teaches to you are conceding that it puts men in a better postion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 10:03 PM
5	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. a praxeology for understanding male and female intersexual dating and relationship dynamics	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:48 PM
4	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. No that isn't redpill that's not what you aren't getting. Any youtuber saying do "x y and z" isnt giving redpill advice, that is a redpiller giving advice. Redpill is simply the facts about men and women, no prescriptive arguments, no ideological stances, no instruction, no solutions. In regards to your questions, I don't know, its probably impossible to know and its not important. One of the core tenants of RP is that its not seeking to change society through recruitment, its a set of truths me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:48 PM
7	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. Literally one of the most common red pill tenants is that you should not live for women. You guys really have no idea what you are talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:36 PM
6	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. But they are doing all this for something which is actively hurting their chances. Objectively untrue. even if you dont like the conclusions red pill comes to its a fact that you are always going to have better odds if you come into relationships with people with a sense of self value and caution over being overly trusting and having low self worth. What you are doing is conflating RP content not successfully helping every guy with RP not working, some guys just will never be successful with wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:34 PM
3	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. That's not what redpil is lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:30 PM
6	The “success rate” of Red Pill ideology is largely irrelevant because it will make anybody that isn’t a psychopath miserable. Redpill is not a fix, its a way of understanding human psychology, peoples arguments about what you should/shouldn't do isn't red pill its just their opinion. Also because of this there is no "worth" or "not worth", as no one can tell any other adult whether or not its worth it for them to know harsh truths, that's a personal decision you make for yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 09:30 PM
1	women don't like men dating within their social circles Its a problem because the vast majority of people only have 1 maybe 2 social circles and the vast majority of men are not going to find success with the first girl they approach, so its effectively locking off the chances of finding a relationship within a social circle. Then when you add that most women are against cold approaches, and how bad dating apps are; it pretty much leaves the avg guy with no right answer as to how hes meant to find a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 06:11 PM
2	women don't like men dating within their social circles Ok but how many social circles are people generally apart of usually one maybe 2, 3 id say is upper bounds. If you say its only appropriate for a guy to try to date 1 or 2 girls per social circle, you are effectively proving OP and what a lot of RPers have said in the comments that you are effectively just closing off all routes for men to approach women, since the vast majority of men will be rejected by the 1st and 2nd girl they approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 05:57 PM
4	women don't like men dating within their social circles No women definitely have a problem with it, it just kicks in when you date more then one girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 02:52 AM
4	women don't like men dating within their social circles but that doesnt mean women like it	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 02:49 AM
0	The Red Pill is Making Men Weaker, Not Stronger no it isnt and no they are not. RP recognises that biology benefits some more then others but sees that ultimately most guys can with work get decent returns. BP just believes everything is biologically determined by your looks alone. Moreover what even is this post you are clearly a black piller so own up to that at the beginning of your post instead of pretending like you are making a unbiased critique of redpill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 06:57 PM
6	The Red Pill is Making Men Weaker, Not Stronger , it’s nothing more than biological determinism disguised as self-improvement.# Its actually the opposite that is blackpill	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 06:08 PM
-3	When You’re On a Date with a Woman, She Usually Has 3 Other Guys Already No they don't women tell each other that all men are bad, women never check each other because women don't want honest friends they want emotionally validating friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 06:04 PM
1	Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular? thats not equivalent, women report feeling always at risk of potential sexual abuse, really bad hazing really only happens to minority of pledges since most guys that pledge a frat are the type of guy that has the assertiveness not to feel like they are at risk of being bullied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 03:53 PM
2	Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular? But yes, some men are dangerous, no one is really sure which ones and this is why it's fun. No this is wrong. Most men can point out a predator, hence why most of these guys have very few friends. Women don't know which guy is dangerous because women don't put in any effort to really get to know or understand men at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 03:50 PM
5	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Its the the combo thats the issue, you can make a anamatronic robot that has the right features that intergrates an llm but its gonna be like the price of an expensive car. We just need the tech to get cheaper at this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 07:54 PM
4	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. Bro look around you we already have good llms with natural human sounding voices, that can hold conversations etc. In fact there are already ppl falling in love and dating them right now. So the emotional connection part of this problem is already solved. The part we are waiting for its just physically making a sex doll that's decently priced, has a decent feel, customisable and maybe animatronic to a degree. This is coming within 10 years easily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 07:11 PM
10	Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise. From their perspective, men are only going to get this robot because they can make it do things that no real human woman would do (or that no real human man could legally do to another human being. But this is ridiculous we get robots to do this in all other facets of life. People make manufacturing robots so they can pay them nothing and work 24/7, we have robots that will blow themselves up etc. We have always made robots to do the things that humans do not want to do. No this is not about tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 07:02 PM
1	The issue with promiscuous men wanting non-promiscuous women is about his hypocrisy around pious conservative values in the face of a chaste woman, but most of these religions then place the blame of being a coomer on the woman if she is showing skin and claim she is intentionally tempting the men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 10:35 PM
1	The issue with promiscuous men wanting non-promiscuous women is about his hypocrisy around pious conservative values Well then its not hypocrisy since most of these religions hold men and women to different standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 06:39 PM
9	If every average man dropped out of the dating market it would not affect women one bit. Their dating problems are entirely based on the behaviour of top tier men no one is going to spend the money to make convincing bots that like random girls posts, the botting would be how it is now, really obvious fake women who sent links for porn websites. Bots wont provide women with any validation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 06:34 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? so if your husband wanted to watch porn you would be ok with that, since he doesn't have to put up with jealousy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 11:19 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? so then why are you talking about cafes and restaurants	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 11:16 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? I don’t count going to a cafe or restaurant as “girls night”. What are you saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 10:59 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? This isn't a yes, no, or even anything close to an answer to my question. Address the point. Are you willing to give up going on nights out without him and not wearing any revealing clothes maybe even restrict ur Instagram if its not already to just friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 10:58 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? are you willing to give both up if he gives up porn	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 09:55 PM
1	Should a guy you are dating be following random women on instagram/Facebook that you don’t know about? would you be ok with not wearing revealing clothing and not going on girls nights out while in the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 05:37 AM
1	It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching porn Its her problem not his, so its on her to he the impetus to find a solution. It's kind of like how when you have a leaky faucet, it's on the Tenant to report it to the landlord not the landlord to check the house every day for issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:57 AM
0	It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching porn If he says yes would you agree to take down any bikini pictures, and stop wearing revealing clothing for the duration of the relationship, stop going on girls nights out without him etc?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:52 AM
–	Which Type of Partner Do You prefer This is really a bad question tho ur not really asking if men want submission or independence, ur asking if men to choose between a caricature or a real person. A better question is "do you want a woman that genuinely believes in your judgement and so will trust you when she is unsure vs a woman who is highly independent so if unsure she will take significant convincing to follow your judgment". This comparison is between 2 real people and will show what men actually prefer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 10:52 PM
1	Do you support "old school" feminism? Firstly your life doesn't matter, you are one person lol, Im also not going to just believe what ur saying without evidence. So stop talking about ur life we are talking about society not you. Secondly its not some parts, its most as I explained in my comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:56 AM
2	Do you support "old school" feminism? Yes, I've seen the meme of that Instagram post of a woman saying "your money is our money, my money is my money" but never in real life have I seen anyone act that way. I dont believe you, but also objectively most marriages are male breadwinner, most marriages are in demographics where men earn more, men have lower amounts of competition when they earn more and just in general women allways say they care about a man capcity to earn. Also conversely men largely do not care about a woman's earnin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:30 AM
1	Do you support "old school" feminism? Wdym it doesn't exist? The OP is literally a bunch of rights without any accompanying responsibilities and OP claims that this is the definition of old-school feminism. You also cant say the principle is fiction, when you literally agree with it when you say "We're not saying if what your saying is true, women should get it anyways,". At this point you are not arguing in good faith at all, you are just disagreeing because you are triggered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:25 AM
1	Do you support "old school" feminism? My argument is about principles not about any particular situation so I don't need to give an example. Also asking for one is just adhominem, because it shows ur not actually addressing the point, but trying to figure out whether or not im consistent, which is irrelevant to the my actual point that rights should only come with responsibilities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 12:57 AM
1	Do you support "old school" feminism? Huh. I've never seen old school feminists that pushed for men to be required to provide for them. This makes no sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 12:54 AM
-1	Do you support "old school" feminism? Rights have responsibilities, OP is a list of 10 rights without any responsibilities therefore I don't agree with it. Thats my argument. Asking what rights go with what responsibility is besides the point, OP is the one who made the list its not my job to fix it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 06:01 PM
-5	Do you support "old school" feminism? No what you have said is gibberish the right to vote was never tied to the responsibility of of provision. You are only saying rights don't come with responsibilities because you are a woman and aren't given as many responsibilities as well as have been told that its wrong for you to have to uphold responsibilities by feminism because feminism just wants to privilege women. All rights come with responsibilities, right to own property comes with financial responsibility of any property you own, r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:58 PM
–	Do you support "old school" feminism? No you are asking my opinion on something else probably so that you can attack that instead of my argument. Make an argument or support what im saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:49 PM
-2	Do you support "old school" feminism? What you are saying is like claiming that two people have an equal ability to travel when one person gets free flights and the other has to pay for their ticket. Equal agency without equal responsibility is privilege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:31 PM
-5	Do you support "old school" feminism? The fact that you are asking that proves my point, rights always come with responsibilities so if you cant even think of any women should have then these are just privileges.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:28 PM
2	Do you support "old school" feminism? no because you are asking if i agree with old school feminism, I don't agree with giving women any of these things without responsibilities which is what old school feminism was pushing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:27 PM
-12	Do you support "old school" feminism? You are missing the point here. When women didn't have equal pay, men's rights to higher pay came with men's responsibility to be expected to provide. Now that women have equal pay in law there is no social impetus put on women to take up any kind of social responsibility with that capacity to provide, so its effectively a privilege. So the question should not be what responsibilities do men have but what responsibilities have women really gained with their rights?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:25 PM
-4	Do you support "old school" feminism? because men have rights with responsibilities	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:11 PM
-10	Do you support "old school" feminism? No. I don't disagree with any of the individual points here but the issue with this and all feminist rhetoric is they are only rights. Feminism never talks about or tries to ever impose any partnered/new responsibilities onto women to accompany the rights its asks for, and so all it does is privilege women at the expense of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 04:22 PM
1	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? ofc they had a choice men did not start loving their daughters or sisters in the 21st century lmao, so if some guy in the tribe tried to rape a woman he would be swiftly beaten and probably killed by that woman's farther, brothers and cousins. Conversely since those men cared about her she would be able to choose someone she liked, its only really royalty that where super restrictive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 05:32 PM
0	RP says men should have their shit together before they get married which I totally agree with. But shouldn’t women also have their shit together before marriage? but will want a woman that is also attractive and has her shit together But for women to have their shit together the process is not constructive its conservational. As a woman you don't need to go on a journey to build like a man you just need to be raised well, not be a slut, know how to cook and be willing to be submissive to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 05:01 PM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Your blind person analogy doesn't work because no one has a right to watch a tv, the TV company didn't have to make TVs to sell it to you, they did so of their own private volition. And actually in the cases where you do have a right to do certain things like voting, its federal law to make poling stations accommodate the disabled. . But this is all besides the point anyway because that argument is already settled, women do not have a federally recognised right to abort. . . Women being able to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:09 PM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Firstly you cant separate things like that. If it defacto gives women the ability to choose it is giving women ability to choose and that's therefore apart of the moral calculation. But more importantly why do they even get to have that choice? If men can agree to a lifetime of parenting and/or child support in some form at the point of having sex, why do women also not do the same, or at least agree to having to carry the child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 04:22 AM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions You're terminally online because you're so emotionally invested in something that does not effect you, that you scoured the internet looking for things you can copy and paste to argue with a stranger These are quotes from you: "ABORTION IS HEALTHCARE I WONT LISTEN TO ANYONE DEBATE THIS" "EVERYONE WHO DISSAGREES WITH ME IS PATHETHETIC" "YOU, NITWITS THAT BELIEVE PAPER ABORTION SHOULD BE AN OPTION" And you are a man aswell lol, this is so embarassing can you not even think of insults that could ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 04:17 AM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Anyone can also get hit by lightning no point talking about edge cases as if they are the majority, childbirth is overwhelmingly safe. You also dont have to keep the kid after you have it, so post partum is not an argument, there are long long waitlists for babies especially now that gay ppl can get married and straight couples are getting married older. . . Legally, parents are not forced to give any part of their body or blood to a child even if they are dying and will die without it. I don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 03:10 AM
0	Men are having bad sex, and it is not talked about. because even bad sex is good sex No this isn't true, bad sex is bad sex, its just as a guy you at least choose to get off in spite of it, women just give up and accept its over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 03:04 AM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions "terminally online" ur the one arguing that the pro choice movement that constantly talks about womens right to choose when they reproduce(reproductive rights) has nothing to do with the moral principle of parental choice. Secondly uve barely addressed anything ive said and what you have said is just an outright lie. Your argument was verbatim "Abortions are often medically necessary procedures that will result in the death of the mother if not performed" now that ive provided actual data and pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 02:51 AM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions No abortion is a legal right that women have in some states.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 01:21 AM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions You're almost there. There were 3,596,017 pregnancies in 2023. 7% of those, according to your data, resulted in medically necessary abortions, or 251,721. This is dishonest language. If you have a big number, a small % of that big number will also be a big number, it doesn't mean that its evidence of something that statically likely or that happens a often. 240,000 people get struck by lightning globally, should be now pretend like getting hit by lightning is something that happens often since 2…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 01:17 AM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions There is, if a child is conceived a man must pay child support and/or be a part time parent or he will be fined and sometimes jailed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 12:33 AM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions But you aren't arguing they are just purely different, you are arguing they operate on different moral principles. But you haven't proven that whatsoever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 12:32 AM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions they are if the woman gives birth and decides to keep the baby the man must become a parent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 10:28 PM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Lmao you are deeply ignorant. This is an article literal arguing in favour of abortion and even they admit that the numbers are: physical problem with my health(4%) possible problems affecting the health of the fetus (3%) That means 93% of abortions or more then 9 in 10 abortions are not medically necessary at all. Moreover if this where about medically necessary abortions you would all be ok with banning non medically necessary abortions, but you arent because you really want to support the ove…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 10:10 PM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions The fetus simply lacks personhood. Based on what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:44 PM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions You can't pick and choose like that. Right to abortion is a legal right not a social advantage, and in the law ther has been great emphasis on bringing up women to be equal to men, therefore men and women must have the same legal responsibilities. The only way what you are saying makes sense if we go back to the time wherein husbands have legal full autonomy over the wives earnings, fathers get default custody, legal to pay women less etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:43 PM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Abortion is a healthcare procedure, and child support is a legal procedure. Ones right to abortion is not healthcare though so they are the same. . . it is often a vital health service. Not true most abortion patients are young women and are done for convenience, also you don't care about abortions for healthcare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:40 PM
2	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions neither takes any subsequent action related to reproductive rights Wdym neither the man can't do anything. . . father is free to abandon his child because the mother could have but didn’t take any actions to impede the pregnancy (but also somehow can still claim rights to the child if he desires) Firstly women kill their kids when they find them inconvenient so idk why ur trying to imply some sort of extreme immorality. Secondly the father would not abandon the child he would sacrifice his pater…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:33 PM
0	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Obviously men have rights to get vasectomies and use condoms and what have you so you’re also wrong on that front So then women dont need abortion rights because they can get hysterectomies. What kind of argument is this? Bodily autonomy does not just end at pregnancy it applies to your agency over your body in all things, that includes whether or not you want to work to provide for a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:28 PM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions Your making a distinction where there is none. Bodily autonomy over whether or not you work to provide or are made to give birth operate on the same moral principle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:21 PM
5	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions The freedom to choose whether or not they are compelled into being parents after having sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:21 PM
1	Paper Abortions are not ethically analogous to Abortions The ethical and moral justification for abortion is rooted in the lack of personhood of a fetus and bodily autonomy. This is all ready a contradiction. If the woman did not consent to having the child by having sex then how can you say the man did as well. The personhood argument is just not real 90% of pro choice people completely ignore this aspect of the debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 09:18 PM
3	Redpill or any other similar content is pure grift you are only saying this becuase you dont have an argument against redpill so you need to straw man it to make it easier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 04:55 AM
1	Redpill or any other similar content is pure grift accodring to who? You?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 04:54 AM
1	The Red Pill is inhumane, ineffective, and in fact, self-defeating. If you don’t like feminism, you cannot like trp. They behave exactly the same. Wrong redpill is way of understanding an existing world so that you can adapt to it, feminism wants to create and enforce that world a specific world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 03:14 AM
1	The Red Pill is inhumane, ineffective, and in fact, self-defeating. you are just wrong lmao you just completely strawmanned what I said and made up a position that was convenient. You claim here: To me, the phrase "men got the advantage of agency with the disadvantage of responsibility, conversely women got lack of responsibility with lack of ultimate agency" sounds like a direct quote. But whether it is or isn't, these traditional roles are what Red Pillers aspire to. That this is a world I aspired to but left out the fact that i was describing the past and how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 03:11 AM
-1	What would actually make a positive change for you men? bring awareness wont do anything but shorten relationships and prevent them from forming. Monogamy does not come naturally to humans it must be maintained through social stigma and social validation. What we stigmatise and what we validate can be varied but we have to do so to some things, we cannot just let people do whatever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:54 PM
-1	What would actually make a positive change for you men? Society needs to get past this phase where men and women are pitted against each other. That requires some dialogue between both sides. We need the exact opposite of things like Fresh & Fit. This is wrong we need stuff like fresh and fit because fresh and fit is part of that conversation, redpill in a big part men expressing what they feel like they disserve in a relationship. And so the only way society can get past this phase is to embrace the fact that men and women's interest are not aligned…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 05:44 AM
0	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. That is nonsense, if most people ,meaning almost every avg person, was married prior to modernity then society can guarantee it. Also you say artificial like as society is the way it is right now is due to natural choice, thats also nonsense, there where social movements that got government policies to in turn forcefully create the current dating market and society. Moreover society in general is artificial, we aren't all bees from the same colony, our interests are not naturally aligned such th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 02:47 AM
0	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. OP said specifically It’s all down to you to become attractive ... there is nothing society can do to fix that or help Here he is claiming that no societal wide change will affect anyone's dating chances. but it would not necessarily increase her organic attraction to/desire for that man. It would simply be a relationship of convenience (and coercion). It actually would because a massive qualifier for a woman to be attracted to man is his capacity to have earn more then her. This is why as women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 11:16 PM
2	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. I don't get this weird blue pill gaslighting where you guys try to act like what exists today is just what's always been. My friend nothing else is needed as proven by the centuries prior to modernity wherein the avg men could put in avg effort and get married at a pretty young age to an avg woman and she would never divorce him. So the goal should not be thinking what does the avg man need to do but how can society negatively and positively incentivise the avg woman to accepting avg levels of e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 07:20 PM
9	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. But that isnt your argument tho, your words are "It’s all down to you to become attractive.". Yes society cant force people into successful relationships but this does not mean that its all down to the individual and that nothing can be done on a macro level. Society absolutely can massively increase or decrease the attractiveness of getting into a relationship and how most people see most other people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:56 PM
4	The Lily Phillips situation is yet another hit to how men perceive women. Nah she uses her legal name shows her face and this story about her is known nationwide in the uk. They know they probably just don't care, because they don't care about her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 09:33 PM
6	The Lily Phillips situation is yet another hit to how men perceive women. but the problem is blaming the men for her fuck ups	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 02:06 AM
12	The Lily Phillips situation is yet another hit to how men perceive women. he will prob burn through all the money quickly by living beyond her means. The black pill about OF that most of these girls never admit, is that most of them are under these management companies that take most if not all of the money and just pay them a flat salary. Also if thye don't have a niece even the successful girls careers usually only last like 5 years and then they go into escorting or camming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 02:05 AM
1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? No that's what you wrote	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 03:57 PM
-1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? the past 3 us elections women have been the ones to mostly support the candidate that wants to expand the government and embroil the us in more foreign conflicts. Women in the west also support sending foreign aid to places like ukr the most. Men in general are the ones who support the government spending less money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 03:37 PM
-1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? no	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 03:34 PM
-1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? They aren't mutually exclusive. You can be a guy who because of the education system failing boys did not go to college, gets a blue collar job and then ends up still paying more taxes into the system then you use for social welfare benefits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 03:24 PM
-8	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? What is the point of a nurse if there is no one to nurse? Also has every nurse added more value in terms of nursing then they have taken out from society? Even just focusing on the medical side of life, can you really claim that a given nurse offset all the time and work it took to educate and train all the nurses doctors, pharmacists etc that provided her healthcare and made sure she was healthy. What about all the hours of research going back to even the fundamentals of the sciences that taugh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 02:15 AM
0	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? The point is not about if single men are gonna be violent, the question is whether or not their violence is morally justified. No it isnt becuase A. physical ramifications are more important that philosophical questions, and B. if a large % of young men are violent that defacto justifies it anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 01:57 AM
0	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? They are not selfish since their kids will be the next generation of tax payers and workers that help maintain society. Like it or nor our economy and culuture is built on the fundamental principle that the population will expand. This is also not a principle that can be changed within a generation or by a shrinking society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 01:51 AM
1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? I am sure you understand that there is never going to be a world where every man who wants a family gets one, there is always going to be some sort of dating/screening process. that is not the aim, the aim is go give enough men a good shot that the ones that want to blow up society dont have enough numbers to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:46 AM
-2	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? I am going down and taking as many idiots as I can with me. Until society finds a way to revive people I am perfectly able to cause more damage than the damage society can do to me. Based and jihad pilled	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:45 AM
-7	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? However that doesn't mean anyone should be compelled to do anything. If you want to be a childless cat lady and have nothing to live for. That is your prerogative. That is entirely your choice. Do you. It's your right to make that bad choice. Nah fuck that, that childless cat lady is still using and has used tax payer facilities as well as just generally enjoyed the fruits of labour of the society as a whole. She can live alone sure but there should be a stigma to doing so, there should be judgm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:43 AM
-4	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? men pay most of the taxes and use the least amount of its services.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:37 AM
-9	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? Just confused how women don't contribute to it without having children? Simply living your life =/= contribution. Most people are a net drain on society economically and even in terms of productivity most work in most companies/orgs is done by the minority of uber productive people. The real benefit that men bring to society is cededing their capacity for violence to the government and holding the expectation that if need be they will fight for the country. Women hower cannot offer this, if wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:36 AM
2	5 questions regarding your pill, please share if you can. Right now i am spinning my wheels wondering if i want love or even believe in it anymore even if some woman decides to offer me a crumb of love and pussy whether i should believe it or spit in its fact Love is real but that's the problem because love is not the truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 11:03 PM
2	5 questions regarding your pill, please share if you can. red yes blue->red->black->red learned the truth, was massively disheartened by the truth, learned to accept the truth. Im open to considering and engaging with any argument about anything, outside of weird shit like CP. a good argument and evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 10:59 PM
1	Are the men here mostly on the younger side and single? My guess is that the men here are younger and not fathers. Is that right? I mean yeah this is a sub that focuses largely on dating, most older men are not single. Also this is a forum on reddit, which is a site again mostly populated by younger single men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 10:56 PM
0	If Ukrainian men are locked in the country and forced to fight, Ukrainian women should also be locked in and either forced to fight, be pregnant, or be raising a child under 3 I don’t believe there is any strategic advantage to having Ukrainian babies right now while the state of the war and the nation’s future is undecided. More extremely vulnerable members of society are not helpful at the moment. What about after the war tho? Would you be infavour of ukr putting a tax on single women between 18 and 45 who have no children and/or Ukr asking its allied nations to revoke the refugee status of the young women that fled the country	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 09:24 PM
–	The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies. But now? Now in the world where women are overwhelmingly misandrists who hate men, and are unpleasant, entitled, and narcissistic beyond imagination, the only solution is to just say NO to the traditional role of the betabux. Instead, men should tell themselves the cold hard truth, and instead turn to transactional relationships. No they should just improve instead. If you are successful in business you have decent social skills, you might not be able to apply them romantically but you have them…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 04:09 PM
-1	Endless Buffet Perspective Modern Dating; It's unlikely to work for Majority of Men. How long do you think is long enough to actually know someone, and trust them with your body- especially if they are bigger and stronger than you? no idea which is one of the issues with the modern world that feminist have created. Women use to be able to rely on the fact that their dad could vet men approaching them because any guy approaching you to fuck around wouldn't out of fear of him. Now you guys have to do all this urself. If I wasn't sincerely interested than why would I be testing to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 06:50 PM
1	Endless Buffet Perspective Modern Dating; It's unlikely to work for Majority of Men. To play your best hand such that you can get the most attractive women that will treat you the best inside a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:49 PM
4	Endless Buffet Perspective Modern Dating; It's unlikely to work for Majority of Men. I can tell you from experience if someone is taking their time with you and not hurrying you to bed but still talking to you often, making jokes, etc- they probably want to get there and are sincerely interested. I only rushed to bed with people at my lowest when I was desperate to feel something and those were all empty interactions I regretted. You cant really make this claim because conversely a lot of women who have no real sexual interest will string a guy along because he meets their emoti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:46 PM
5	NEW NUMBERS 4 out of 10 young men in Sweden don't dare to flirt with girls, study shows its not radically different its just further along the same road	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:24 PM
2	Dating apps are only useful for the top 5% of men looking to hookup with average looking women or vice versa. The apps are designed to fail for those looking for relationships. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/living-single/202008/half-of-all-single-people-just-dont-want-a-relationship	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 05:52 PM
3	Dating apps are only useful for the top 5% of men looking to hookup with average looking women or vice versa. The apps are designed to fail for those looking for relationships. Because the men it doesn't work for have largely just given up trying to date at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 04:18 AM
3	Red pill men want tradwives but not gold diggers? I don’t think those men want to provide anyway, I think they want the fantasy of someone they can control. But it’s just a fantasy. Projection, you are only saying this because you know this is how you would act in this situation. Because you are a woman who isn't use to ever having power over ppl. Like you were saying before, in this situation, that woman would really want nothing to do with you. The kept traditional woman is really the one that only wants you for your money. She can’t live if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 04:49 PM
2	Red pill men want tradwives but not gold diggers? How is it not 50/50 if a woman chooses a man that makes as much than her? That’s the definition of 50/50. It seems to me that the big issue here is the stupidity of having children. Because he had to earn enough to be considered by her she did not have to earn anything to be considered by him. Also just because hes not providing as a breadwinner doesn't mean that there is any less pressure, if she picked him because of his earnings its highly unlikely she is going to be ok with him loosing his j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:46 PM
2	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? None of it is really equipt to help men, the problem is the whole field has oriented itself around women and the female mind. Psychology as a field really needs to have some sort of masculine straight man inclusivity quotas to really have any hope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:00 PM
0	Red pill men want tradwives but not gold diggers? I feel like there is a dichotomy between red pill men who say they feel there is too much pressure on them to be successful and rich to attract a woman, but also want women to adopt the submissive role and rely on them. The problem here is you are applying woman communication to men. When men talk about things we talk about them directly and very rarely implicitly. So when men talk about pressure to provide we are not implying that its too much or a burden that we do not want, we are saying it i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 05:30 PM
3	There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality. so if western society decided to return to a relationship dynamics like that in the middle east you would accept this as what is fair?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 11:54 AM
2	There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality. women need to date in their league because its the only way they will have meaningful relationships and more importantly its better for society to not have a bunch of young single sexless men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 11:52 AM
–	Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality. Responding to the title: If the concept of dating can be destroyed by a woman's sense of self and self-preservation, then that concept of dating deserves to be destroyed. No becuase women do not exist in a vacuum unto themselves, if women start thinking exclusively for themselves at the complete expense of men, all that leads to is a race to the bottom. Women like men must make efforts to sacrifice for the other to demonstrate good faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 08:06 AM
–	Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality. also a massive thing this stat is missing is the context that the late 40s is right after the largest global war in human history. So its not supprising women where unsatisified in thier marriages all the guys they actually wanted to date where blown up or came home with ptsd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 08:02 AM
–	Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality. I'm not so sure there was ever a golden age of dating as the men here seem to imagine it. Wtf lol, for most of the Christianised western worlds history most men where married to their looks match and had multiple kids. The Golden age absolutely did exist feminism and progressive values as a whole just ousted the Christian routed values that ensured monogamy and thus ensured the best outcome for the avg man. in the late 40's large scale anonymous sex surveys were conducted that found that. 77% of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 07:55 AM
1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. they have a lot of people on thier show lol, theyve had destiny on thier show whos a progressive BPer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 10:56 PM
-5	Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men? I think that's a incorrect characterisation of womens media. We as men have media pushed in our faces, our media is co-opted by trans, women and gay men who hate the avg straight man and endlessly try to force highly unpopular themes and elements into our spaces. You women have media made for and by you, by women and gays that largely align with the avg woman ideologically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 03:41 PM
-2	Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men? No ive read maybe 1 article online in my entire life. Women's media unlike mens media does not have activists inside it forcing it to appeal to the opposite gender, so i like most men have consumed almost none of even the most popular of women's entertainment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 02:29 PM
2	Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men? One of the things is media. Look at what clothes women in the media are wearing. Look at the ads, look at what looks the media is showning as feminine, what the media says how a woman should look. So it is no wonder that women might dress provocativelly because all around they are bieng told that this is how a woman looks and you need to look like that to feel like a woman. I get this is media made for men, but is there not stuff made for women where ur just dressed normally?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 01:35 PM
0	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. so he will need to sufficiently lower his standards No its the opposite, guys need to leverage themselves better. Women genuinely value commitment so if a man puts that on the table up front with hard line terms and conditions he can truly secure, its just most guys chase the slimmest chances of success in getting what they want and show way too much desperation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 02:34 AM
10	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. Difference is for men, a lot of them don't rate staying single as a good option. Lmao its the opposite. Most women are never truly single ur always on tail end, at the beginning off or in the middle of some kind of romantic relationship. Even if its just the degs of a lost love or some guy texting you, uve almost allways got somone. Men are actually single, men will actually involuntarily go months and months without any woman even giving him a 2nd glance. That being said, you can be very succes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 02:30 AM
1	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. Virtually every woman knows she could hop on an app and get dates within a few minutes. They. Know. There is no reason for a woman to entertain an average man in real life any more than on apps. 90% of the guys on there she doesnt find attractive, and the ones she does are ones she knows definitely just want sex. Plus she has no idea who these men are. The guy in real life she knows is not some dangerous murder aswell as having a good chance that hes actually down for commitment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 02:25 AM
–	The 4B movement won't work because most of us already don't get laid Remember when MGTOW swore the west was going to fall apart because men would dropping out of love and relationships in droves? It's the same thing here. The vast majority of men and women want to fall in love and be with one another. This is unlike 4b is literally happening right now lmao and they were 100% correct. The west absolutely is reeling from young mens lack of engagement in society. They even speak about this on mainstream news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuprsO2-nc	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 06:34 PM
–	The 4B Movement isn't going to happen en masse p2025 is not trumps agenda he has his own agenda on his website. P2025 was created completely independent of him by a think tank. You have been lied to. Also women cant do 4b becuase women largely do not fuck the avg man casually so there would be nothing to remove, and u dont have the same cultural background which informed 4b, its literally completely different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 01:43 AM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray im not saying they are, im saying that you cant look at relationships over all for stuff like this becuase older generations had very different social dynamics that do not exist today for younger people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 10:46 PM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray look at that same chart, "Foreign born" has husband primary breadwinner at 61% whereas "us born" is only at 53% and inline with other trends. So its immigrants who are skewing the numbers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 10:45 PM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray The reason is when men can out earn women, women prefer to marry those who out earn them. This is why even tho male breadwinner marriages are decreasing, the demographics where men can still out earn women, like college educated, still have higher rates of marriage then those demographics where there is more earnings equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 10:29 PM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray Both egalitarian and female breadwinner marriages have been increasing over time, also male breadwinner has been decreasing. So its not true to say younger couples are more likely then older couples to be male breadwinner. I think you are probably looking at the differences between new marrages of old vs young people which isn't what im talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 10:27 PM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray And the majority of marriages are male breadwinner, do you also think that is reflective of the prospects for people in the current dating market? You cant just look at majority becuase majority includes people of several generations that are unaffected by todays dating and relationship trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 09:43 PM
–	Abruptly learning about female standards can lead to mental disarray Learning these sorts of truths when you previously believed in the fantasies we are all taught will never be easy. Also its better to learn it abruptly becuase the lies are so pervasive in society that if you aren't forced to accept the truth immediately and upfront, you will just come up some cope and rationalise a way to deny them. Look at all the blue pill push back to just the ideas RP talks about, ignore all the podcasts and interviews etc. The avg BP man or woman will literally call you an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 09:41 PM
8	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Men are actually not more emotionally expressive now, not sure why you would think that. Actually, displays of emotion like open weeping as well as platonic physical affection between men was much more accepted prior to the 20th century or so. They literally are and the argument that they aren't becuase they aren't expressing their emotions like women is a complete false dichotomy. Men are treated as beings without inherent value, they must have a "purpose" or a "utility" or else they are isolat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 01:36 AM
5	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? It doesnt at all and you prove it, feminist only want to help men when they are victims in spite of masculinity becuase feminist believe that patriarchy causes all problems in society(or at least a lot), so when men are victims becuase they are typically masculine men or when masculinity is not at the root cause of the issue feminists will ignore the issue or try to come up with some other explanation. Your example shows this. Young men today are the most emotionally expressive they have ever be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 11:48 PM
1	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Ok but lets not pretend like feminists dont have a storied history of protesting men's rights movements. I remember like 10 years ago MRA's would hold just pure men's advocacy conferences where they wouldn't talk redpill, conservatism, mgtow; just purely focused on men's mental health issues like suicide divorce homelessness etc and they would regularly get feminists protesting outside and pulling fire alarms. Progressives and feminist hate and are ideologically apposed to true men's advocacy be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 11:00 PM
5	Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men? Its never going to happen becuase fundamentally actual advocacy for men means conceding central principles progressives fought for where wrong. Maybe a progressive left that isn't ideologically actually what we would consider progressive but just uses the term could advocate for men, but for the current movement its just impossible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 10:55 PM
4	Q4M: what is an “all men are like that” type of generalization that you’re tired of OTHER MEN saying? That all men prefer casual sex with a variety of women. This is true, most men just have never had the opportunity to do it or they have but dont have the time and/or energy to balance multiple full relationships. However for sure atleast 70-80% of men would prefer having a main girl and a side chick or two, rather then just one girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 03:27 PM
2	Guys here care way too much about blue haired feminists and will use those women as confirmation bias. You ask the avg woman any contentious issue that feminism has a strong stance on and 6-7 out of 10 of them will tell you they believe in the feminist position. Most women absolutely are blue haired feminists they just wont constantly speak about feminism becuase they aren't interested in politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:53 PM
1	Guys here care way too much about blue haired feminists and will use those women as confirmation bias. #killallmen and the whole "i choose the bear" show that most women are blue haired feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:16 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry and not all legal abortions would result in a child being born, id argue that women knowing the farther could 100% abandon them with no hope of child support you would see way less women taking pregnancies to term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 06:02 PM
-1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Why must I “pay to maintain equality”? Paying for ramps for disabled people is you paying to maintain equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:31 PM
4	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry When a child is aborted, you're not "giving it up" to someone else to take care of. One it's aborted, no one has to take care of it. It's resolved. Im not talking about those times, im talking about the times wherein a mother decides she doesnt want to be a mother but doesnt want the abortion, so she gives birth and gives the child up to a fire station or leaves it in the hospital. All you're saying here is "if SOME solutions work, why can't people try ALL solutions???" The answer is because som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:30 PM
3	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Becuase civil rights need to be available to all that they can apply to. Are you against paying for ramps so disabled people can vote or access hospitals?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:22 PM
4	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry True but the same applies in the same amount of cases mothers give their kids up for abortion. So either we remove all parental choice or we allow it all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:12 PM
1	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Why does the FATHER get to opt out of paying for their own child but I don't get to opt out of paying for his child? You are talking like this is new but this is already an option, if both mother and farther dont want to be parents they can give the child up for adoption wherein you will be paying for the kid that way aswell in the foster system. But moreso the reason you dont get to opt out is becuase as adults its our moral responsibility to maintain a good standard of living for all children …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:08 PM
3	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Firstly regardless of if a financial abortion existed, if the mother or both parents wanted to give up the child you would be paying anyway via the foster system. Secondly you must pay to maintain equality, its not right to allow for parental choice only for women and not men. So if you really dont want to pay then you should support scraping the foster system any child care subsidies etc and get rid of abortion for all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:05 PM
9	The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandry Providing a good life for all children is one of the only things government funds should ever be used for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:01 PM
1	Q4M: How do you view women that approach and make the first move? THe overwhelming majority of men would genuinely appreciate being approached. The problem is becuase women are so fearful of rejection, they only approach the most attractive guys they think they have a shot with becuase they dont see it as worth it otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 01:10 AM
1	Q4M: How do you view women that approach and make the first move? Nah that's definitely making a move lol. A first move is not contingent on it actually leading anywhere successfully its just the first move made to show clear and overt romantic attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 01:07 AM
1	As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism? "as a red pill or purple pill"	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 08:54 PM
1	8 possible reasons why Women don't approach Men. No its mostly fear of rejection. when women find you attractive it doesnt matter if they dont know you they will approach you if they find you attractive enough, but as I said for the majority of guys they are attracted to that attraction is simply not enough to overcome their fear of having thier pride hurt so they dont approach. Its not likely the only reason is the guy is not attractive enough becuase out of 10 guys a girl would actually be attracted to shes only going to approach the top 1 o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 01:26 AM
1	8 possible reasons why Women don't approach Men. I think Fear of rejection feeds into this aswell. Women only approach the top % of guys becuase those are the ones where they feel its worth risking rejection becuase they find the guy so attractive, the rest of the guys they might consider just aren't attractive enough to take the hit to their egos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 01:39 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. They end up reimbursing him for the ring. If they didn’t, most of these men would not propose lol. It’s similar to how when a man gets her flowers, she will venmo him back for it. It doesn’t come “free”, she essentially pays for it. Lmao you are just making shit up. Where is your study showing that most men will Venmo women for flowers or that they will ask for reimbursement for an engagement ring. Yes, but those women are paying for their own half of the rent/mortgage.. so it’s still 50/50. No …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:28 AM
5	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/st_2023-04-13_breadwinner-wives_01-png/ Most women do not pay for their own engagement rings, that doesnt even make sense lol. Also paying for small things within a relationship like gas or food at a restaurant is nothing if the other person is paying most of the mortgage/rent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:04 AM
1	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Not anymore because a lot of women split the finances 50/50 with their husband. Only 30% of marriages are 50/50	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:47 AM
2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. First the cost is out of reach for most men let alone most young men who are broke. In my experience in the USA, Australia and Europe with escorts is if you want half way decent looking one, they charge at minimum $800 US dollars. Maybe if ur trying to fuck ur favourite in demand pornstar lol, but a quick search will show the prices are around $200 per hour in most places. Anything below that you start getting some really disgusting looking women in my experience Out of all the things to come on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:47 AM
8	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Dont trust OP lmao even in a place like Miami the avg price of escorts is $200, the only prostitutes that cost around $800 per hour are going to be like Instagram girls or pornstars. Moreover price is definitely not going to tell you if a girl has been trafficked. Also OPs math is wrong, the novelty of being able to fuck different women who are way out of your league easily counts for like 3x a gf especially long term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:45 AM
0	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. his prices are way off in the US aswell most hookers charge like $200 per hour. Idk why but this guy is actually lying about having sex with prostitutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:40 AM
1	Are female virgins past 23 typically very desirable? some guys might prefer this but the vast majority will not care about a woman being a virgin at all. Like most things you can do as a woman its not a matter of making urself more attractive as most women are born with enough of what men want, its about not ruining that value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 03:30 AM
2	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man incorrect, clear isn't abscence of light, clear is an open passage for light.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 03:27 PM
0	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man If he wanted his own custom meaning flair he should have done what you did and make one up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 03:26 PM
1	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man But redpills are talking about this now. Undesrtand that this does not exist in a vacuum, RP will kill itself if it works. Because it makes the market more competitive by default. Each RP one year late has it harder than the previous, and the previous and so forth. No it wont. Redpill recognises that most men are BP aswell as largely simps, also again since its a praxeology it doesnt actually seek to change this fact, therefore there is no "if redpill workings" becuase redpill has no goals outsi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 02:48 PM
8	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man a Black piller talking about crying is rich lol, all you guys do is cry and whine about how u dont get women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 01:51 AM
7	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man Just becuase red pill talks about social problems does not mean its giving social solutions. Redpill is a praxeology meant to educate men on intersexual dynamics, thats it, what those men do or what they recommend others do is purely their own ideas as individuals. Modern society preaches women's independence for men, yet your whole thought process is shackling a mans life to become more appealing to women? The current system says you're not needed, yet your solution to this is to simply complai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 01:50 AM
3	Q4M: when dating, do you factor in how attractive she is to others? Some people find that it provides them with a sense of status to have a partner that everyone finds attractive. But that presumes that status is something that you find attractive in a partner which most men do not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 12:05 AM
3	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? no option 1 only comes with 1 there will be no strong sexual chemistry or a lot of sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 01:44 AM
3	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? you should put an edit in the bottom becuase most people are saying 1 becuase they think they get both	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 01:44 AM
3	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? Option 2. I have no hard desire for a deep romantic emotional connection, im not 13. Also i already have hours long intellectually stimulating conversations with my friends. I really dont need that from a woman. Sex is really the thing I want from women in a relationship the other stuff is conditionally important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 01:43 AM
3	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? 1 comes with no sex tho	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 01:43 AM
-5	A root cause of the issues in dating today is that dating advice is not balanced for pro-social men Male suffrage came with the draft, so most women did not want things like the right to vote becuase of all the responsibilities they then thought they would have to adopt with it. Feminism really only benefited masculine women, the rest have had declining happiness and satisfaction decade after decade.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 11:38 PM
-3	A root cause of the issues in dating today is that dating advice is not balanced for pro-social men Lmao no, feminism exist so that businesses and government could devalue labour costs while increasing productivity and tax revenue. Traditional values worked very well and most women did not want to the rights feminist was fighting for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 11:31 PM
0	A root cause of the issues in dating today is that dating advice is not balanced for pro-social men No institution can tell you what you as an individual are doing wrong. Absolute horse shit people use to have kids at like 21, dating advice use to be extremely effective, the problem is we broke society becuase of feminism and there is a reluctance to actually give good general advice and/or orient society such that we can go back to giving good general advice becuase that would mean accepting feminism got a lot wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 06:12 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? For body count, nobody is required to divulge that information unprompted and anyone is able to ask a potential partner. If someone doesn’t want the other person to know, they can (and should) refuse to answer. If they lied about it (male or female) it’s immoral. Then there is nothing wrong with a guy not divulging if he has sex with a prostitutes. It is easy to tell when someone is wearing makeup. It’s not deceptive if you know appearance enhancers are being used, but even if you disagree there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 08:47 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? And I'm sure you're thinking, sure, but I don't have to tell her or I could just lie. And that's true, you could...if you want to be a terrible person who has a relationship based entirely on lies that knows their partners would despise the real them. Lmao should women be upfront about body count then? Also what about makeup and flattering posses? Most guys are incapable of really imagining what most women look like without makeup, should all women go bare faced and have Tpose pictures on Instag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 06:36 PM
3	What do we do about the fact that men are drastically overrepresented as murderers, rapists, and criminals? yes violent crime is generally on a downward trend	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 02:13 AM
8	My grandma told me it’s dangerous to sleep around as a woman because many men will view you as fair game. Do you agree with this sentiment? I think its more about behaviours, sexual predators tend to try to predate on similar types of women they identify as vulnerable. I think that predator interprets female promiscuity it as a woman who is low self esteem who is using her body to get attention from the men she likes but who wouldn't pat attention to her without easy access to her body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 05:38 AM
1	Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one? pre requisite, very few men can actually love a woman without being sexually attracted and reasonably sexually satisfied by her. A good relationship can make sex better but it does not mean that sex is a product of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 06:53 PM
1	Is sex a product of a good relationship or is it a pre-requisite to one? But this presumes that if the sex got bad that the relationship would still be good which is not true. Moreover plenty of bad relationships have good sex. You are mistaking a good relationship being something that can make sex better, as being the thing that produces good sex. The sex is a prerequisite becuase without it the relationship crumbles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 06:52 PM
5	High earning women don’t intimidate men from dating them And you think men act better when they have more money and therefore power Generally yes most people do even women which is why they prefer male bosses to female ones. Men due to our biology gives us the capability of serious violence which is a very baseline intrinsically understandable form of power that we just grow up with, and therefore we learn through trial, error, fear confidence and experience how to wield that power such that we dont get are asses beat or turn everyone around us fearfu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:46 PM
4	High earning women don’t intimidate men from dating them When men have more money they get to be the man of the house yet when women make more money they’re still expected to act submissive. I’m not saying women who are breadwinners should be annoying, I’m just pointing out that there’s a difference. Submissive is only one way to act that is acceptable, the problem is women are terrible with power and so if thye take any kind of dominance over a man they just dont know how to have the grace to be fair with that power. Also women dont like feeling supe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:21 AM
–	Is red pill about getting the hottest girl for the lowest price? TLDR below rredpill is not an idealogy is a praexeology, so it doesnt tell you what to do it gives you insights and information and then you decide how you want to act accordingly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/24 01:53 AM
4	Paternity Test vs. Escape Fund The problem isnt the cheating, the problem with your analogy is you are only looking at it from the angle of offense caused to the woman then communicating that. The important part is whether or not its valid for a man to want to know paternity simply for its own sake and whether a woman is justified denying that knowledge. Her feelings are unimportant as feelings do not negate moral justifications. For example if it would really offend your bank teller if you wanted to see a statement of your a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 02:29 AM
1	Paternity Test vs. Escape Fund this is the same thing both people can be affected (by not being the father, by being infected with an std) without knowing it Its not becuase without symptoms the woman would not know she has an std. So its one person who doesnt know asking another person who doesnt know to confirm for the both of them. In the instance of paternity its one person who doesnt know asking someone who knows to confirm for the first person. uh well if the woman knows hes not the father or may not be the father and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 02:23 AM
1	Paternity Test vs. Escape Fund its not like the STDs at all. Men can never know paternity without a test women can, whereas with stds the woman could have one witohut knowing herself. So in the first case its one person with knowledge asking the other just to trust them on this monumental life moment, in the other its someone who potentially doesnt have absolute knowledge asking someone else who doesnt have it either to trust them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 10:20 PM
7	Paternity Test vs. Escape Fund The std test comparison doesnt work becuase you are thinking about this only from the woman's perspective of simply what request would cause equal offense but you are ignoring that there is also the mans side whereby he simply doesnt know if that kid is his without the test whereas the woman does. In the case of STD's the woman wouldn't know whether or not she had an std and neither would the man so there really is not that element where someone who has knowledge is asking someone who doesnt to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 10:16 PM
–	Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be? Well worth is a relative to the market its in. If a bunch of people give what you have for free then its simply not worth anything, also we dont really see our sexuality as an valuable part of who they are, for us its largely a means to an end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 01:23 AM
–	Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be? No one views it as a conquest its just a natural reaction. Men who where ok with sleaping with promiscuous women in the past raised other mens kids more often, that happens over a couple 100ks years, you get almost no guys who are into promiscuous women becuase they ahve been out bred. This is what it is men just have a natural aversion to this behaviour like women have a natural aversion to timid men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 01:19 AM
2	What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill? The truth can be wielded in a harmful way like anything else. if someone says something mean to me, it may be true that they hurt my feelings, but that doesn't mean the best course of action is to go punch them in the face. But say what this person said was really offensive it would be reasonable that you might want to punch them in the face, and so why is it anyones right to remove that choice from you. This is my issue with BP you accept that RP is correct you just dont like men taking those t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:36 PM
4	What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill? This is the irony of blue pill they are so quick to retort against RP But then the moment you ask "so what do you recommend" they say "i have no idea you have to figure it out on your own" which the avg guy is clearly not going to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:16 PM
2	What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill? I'm mostly bluepill and denying that this is true is pretty much delusional. The sexual marketplace is inherently amoral, but you don't have to be a dick about it to play the game well. Women like respectful and responsible men who are also masculine and dominant, it's just that those traits tend to correlate with less responsible men. This isnt the case. The traits do not correlate, "less responsibility" correlates with leverage not simply dominance and masculinity. Men who are more physically …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:10 PM
3	What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill? is this ad admission that the truth is harmful lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:08 PM
1	Why don't women respect submissive men? Why cant you love or be attracted to a man you dont respect?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:05 PM
1	Why don't women respect submissive men? Submissiveness as a personal trait is a negative one though. It can be read as a lack of maturity, independence or the ability to hold proper boundaries. Realistically if you rely on your partner to make all important decisions, they have to carry on a greater load. A lot of people of both genders aren’t really okay with it, because they want to have a functioning partner, not a dependent. No its only negative if you are also submissive and/or you want someone who will challenge you. A lot of pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:03 PM
-9	The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it? Its not indisputable becuase we have no idea what these guys accounts where, this woman might not have memory of the event but it could very well be she was just conscious but drugged maybe on ghb. So if her husband puts out a post on a sex website looking for guys to do a gangbang and ur the 15th guy coming in and she seems to be enjoying herself but obviously on something ur just going to think this is just another swinger becuase a lot of these people like to get high and have pretty crazy se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 03:09 AM
-12	The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it? As for men in general, I don't know. This case is extremely troubling to me. That you could let that number of men even know about the rape happening without one of them running to the police is disturbing. I'm assuming they didn't just tell them right off the bat what was going on and there is a period of feeling them out to see if they're ok with it before letting them in on what's happening, but still. Did thye all know tho for sure? It could very well be that they just assumed it was some fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:27 AM
9	Objectification and degradation in porn id argue of is more degrading becuase you can actually message and talk to the girl, which a lot of guys use to just say insane shit to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 12:04 AM
3	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends Just becuase you dont find it funny doesnt mean it isnt a joke or that its fucked up. Jokes are only fucked up if the intention is to be mean spirited malicious or hurtful, words and statements alone are just that. Also every man evaluates every woman sexually. But if its any solice men typically wont treat a woman like shit becuase shes not attractive, if they treat her like shit its becuase her personality outside of that is off-putting in some way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 06:20 PM
2	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends No it really is rare becuase most guys do not see their sex life as apart of the same box as the topics they discuss with their friends. Also its seen as really childish to talk about sex like women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 06:06 PM
2	The normalization of "Homie head" is wrong and should be stopped It doesnt make any sense. BP especially on this sub is massively centred around the argument that enabling women's sexual freedom should come at any cost to the incentive structure to monogamy, ive even seen BPers say this to the extent that it should be pursued even if society collapses due to low birth rates. So its crazy to turn around and be like "we need to incentivise monogamy this is bad" when its something that lowers womens bargaining position and increases mens freedom. To copy quote a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 03:44 PM
11	The normalization of "Homie head" is wrong and should be stopped Lmao its so typical for a BPer to be against something like this. Where did all that support for sexual liberation go? You guys only care about sexual liberation if its benefits women and disadvantages men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 03:31 PM
6	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends Its highly rare, men mostly never talk about women they just had sex with unless maybe you asked for advice and its an update.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 02:12 AM
37	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends Locker room talk is a myth. Men do speak differently when not around women but its mostly just discussing politically incorrect topics, making jokes women would whine about being offensive etc and sometimes women but almost never women they actually know and definitely not women you just had sex with. Mens conversations are usually about things not people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 02:11 AM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Lol you actually just explained why you are wrong. Its not that men dont offer enough, its that women's sexuality is partly attraction to overmatching in resource acquisition and status. Or in other words women are genetically gold diggers and a mans money is like a woman's phat ass. This is why in demographics where men can out earn and have higher status then women, even in those cases where women are already well off economically or of high status, they have way higher marriage rates. Becuase…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 02:02 AM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Society, its illegal to exclude people based on sex and even if you could figure out some loophole society around you would step in and label you a sexist and an incel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:32 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? you clearly dont care	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 07:43 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? No any time a men do so with policy they will be arrested for sexist discrimination and anytime they do so in the culture greater society comes in and puts enormous social pressure on the people in charge to change the culture to accommodate women. Society at large must make these spaces becuase only with societies blessing can they exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 06:06 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Becuase its not a solution its just idealism and fantasy. If society isn't working for people who are otherwise avg the solution is not to brow beat them, its to change society to accommodate those avg ppl. Its not men who have to change its society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 05:03 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? This is good personal advice but OP asked what people should do as in what society ought to do, and if society keeps going as it is it will just collapse as most men are not going to take the initiative to improve they will just regress.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:24 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Isn't it sad that you dont know, we as a society are so use to not giving a fuck about men that when they have problems you have no idea how to help and they have no idea how to articulate their problems. I dont have all the answers but one I think is vitally important is men's spaces. We need to put in an effort to create social spaces that specifically exclude women because women will always find male spaces abrasive and feel entitled to concessions to accommodate them. If we had more men's cl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:22 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? thats a terrible advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:12 PM
-4	If you claim men are angry at women because women treat them badly, why is it hard to accept that the opposite is also true? Failing to realize that most women have absolutely had their hearts broken by the nerdy guy. No most guys are simps for women who at least close their smv match, that nerdy guy was probably a contextual chad where in that social circle he had a lot of status. So its not really a "nerdy guy" you picked the guy a bunch of other girls want and then you complain when he does the thing that attracted you in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 02:00 AM
0	If you claim men are angry at women because women treat them badly, why is it hard to accept that the opposite is also true? becuase of %. The avg woman hating man hates women becuase of how a massive % of the female population acts, the avg man hating woman hates men becuase of how a minority of men act that they choose to associate with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 01:53 AM
1	What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves??? Most men benefit most from a monogamous sexual market place, however women wanted to destroy it so they could have "sexual freedom".	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 01:30 AM
1	What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves??? No one needs grifters to remind them to work on their physical health, that's universally understood. most adults are fat, so actually most people do need somone to motivate and teach them how to work out. The only secret is learning how to make friends and how to flirt, and TRP doesn't teach either. Thats not the only thing you need lmao, firstly if your out of shape and poor ur not going to be able to maximise the quality of woman you can get, you also wont understand female nature and so how …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 01:27 AM
1	What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves??? Thats like saying "learning that you got your defrauded caused depression". RP does not cause these problems BP does, RP just allows men to be aware of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 01:21 AM
3	What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves??? hes getting understanding of frank truths that blue pill will lie to him about to enable womens freedoms at the expense of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:50 PM
6	What is the best way for autistic men to apply the red pill without falling into its overwhelming toxicity and mentally damaging themselves??? there is no way to prevent it, you just have to go through it. Redpill rage is apart of a lot of guys journey to acceptance. Maybe try to make friends with some women, that way you can atleast women maintain a human face to you as you learn more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:49 PM
–	Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? splc is not credible lol there an activist organisation at this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 01:55 PM
0	Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? And we are all supposed to just trust you but more importantly we are supposed to trust with 0 evidence that this man created the red pill concept of hypergamy or that hes actually a white nationalist. Moreover on that you have yet to state how RP hypergamy is different from scientific hypergamy. Even if I ignore all that and grant all the claims you made are correct, you have yet to prove that devlin represents RP. Your entire argument is built on dishonesty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 03:36 AM
2	Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? Ok so i googled this book, it was published in 2015, in no way was this the origin of hypergamy in the redpill lol, im pretty sure RP started in the late 90s. Also rollos the rational male came out in 2013. I swear BPers just make shit up half the time. If ur going to criticise something you have to at least concede that its telling the truth about itself, otherwise everything you say is straw man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 02:14 AM
2	Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? That doesnt make it true lol. Idk why you guys allways go to take or sneako, how hard is it to just watch a rollo video or somone else who has really been RP and still self IDs as RP. BPers allways use arguments from people who arent RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 02:02 AM
0	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men There not experimenting. They like the women they just dont see them as viable wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 01:31 AM
4	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men was going to say these types of guys are just looking for easier relationships with women who are more mature but they largely do not see the women as viable wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 05:08 PM
2	Red Pill Men, Do You Realize You’re Creating a Larger Pool of Non-Toxic Women for Us? idk who you are trying to lie to. You are literally just making shit up out of thin air. You have no idea what redpill is beyond some vague impression given to you by people that hate redpill. Thats all this is and you cant prove otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 08:17 PM
1	Red Pill Men, Do You Realize You’re Creating a Larger Pool of Non-Toxic Women for Us? No it isnt thats just a convient straw man you made up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 08:06 PM
1	Red Pill Men, Do You Realize You’re Creating a Larger Pool of Non-Toxic Women for Us? You say that like its some condemnation lol. Redpill is not a ideological value system its a praxeology for an individual to better their own personal standing, its entirely practical focused and is not in anyway trying to change society. So its literally part of the point of redpill not to talk about redpill. This is also why ur cope about RPers being single is sexless or not in relationships is bullshit, bc unlike normal guys RP aware guys know exactly how best to sell women a dream.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 07:39 PM
0	Would you knowingly get into a serious long term relationship with someone who has a fetish for your type? you are only easily replaceable if you aren't a charismatic person	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:46 AM
–	Men don't need to settle - they choose to That's nonsense, kindness, loyalty an honesty are not sexually attractive traits to women, those traits have minimum requirement(if that) and then the payoff interms of attractiveness has staggeringly diminishing returns. The traits that all women near universally like are going to be the superficial ones like height, facial symmetry, musculature, high social standing, having money etc. These traits dictate options and all the data proves it. And maybe they weren’t talking to a bunch of girls, b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 08:24 PM
–	Men don't need to settle - they choose to It really is black and white becuase women are not special snowflakes. They all like roughly the same type of guys, becuase they are all human beings that grew up in the same societies with the same morals. For what you are saying to be true all women must have radically different tastes that barely overlap if at all, which is unrealistic for people so similar. Something like 40% to a half of young men have simply given up perusing women, idk why you think that the avg guy is talking to like 2 o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 05:39 PM
10	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? Its not just that they also men, becuase "man up" from an effeminate gay is the same as said by a woman. Its that the man also is held to the same standard he is setting for me, and that there is that base level of respect that he believes you can achieve what he has done aswell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 02:05 AM
1	When maneaters and womanizers come across one another what usually happens? there are almost no women that dont want a relationship with the majority of men they have sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 01:59 AM
8	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? very rarely	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 01:26 AM
9	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? Well first, any time a woman says "man up" its generally good practice to just ignore that for the reasons stated above. Secondly anytime a man is asking you to take on responsibility that he hasn't himself, or that you dont think he would you dont have to take on that responsibility. Then in terms of what challenges you need to meet or what things you ought to do, its those things you think an honourable and impressive man would do tempered with pragmatism, like you dont have to be 100% honoura…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 01:25 AM
13	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? The type of burden or responsibility is immaterial, the important point is the intention and who is saying the words. Even if a burden is unhealthy or unreasonable, i can at least respect it from a man who has already been doing that thing, becuase ultimately its coming from a place of mutual respect; he is saying "you can achieve what i did so do it". When women say this, its never that, they are always leveraging the fact that masculinity and respect is something that men both need in society …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:47 PM
16	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? and the other is homophobia. "man up" is sexism so it fits right into the trio.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:39 PM
61	Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"? Mostly only when women say it. This is becuase generally when men say "man up" when they are telling you to take on responsibility that you need to shoulder and is a burden that you know they would or have also taken on. Women however almost exclusively use the term to emasculate men and/or to shame men into doing something they will never have to do. Man up is almost like a light version of fggot or Chnk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:33 PM
2	Q4RPMen: Would you be in a LTR with a very good looking virgin woman who isn’t sexually attracted to you? Highly dependant. Is this the only option?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:27 PM
5	Q4RPMen: Would you be in a LTR with a very good looking virgin woman who isn’t sexually attracted to you? funnily enough i actually agree somewhat with a BP woman, if she isn't attracted to you chances are she is not going to give you her best. Op if you want to know if RP guys only look for or prioritise virgin girls just ask that becuase really all your question comes down to is "would you accept a sub optimal relationship".	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:26 PM
9	Q4RPMen: Would you be in a LTR with a very good looking virgin woman who isn’t sexually attracted to you? They just want to believe that all RPers are Andrew Tate steryotype, despite the fact that hes a Muslim not RP and even when he was a atheist he rejected the label of redpill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:18 PM
1	Men don't need to settle - they choose to You jsut contradicted yourself. You say women dont want a man with options, but then say women dont want a man who had no other option, which would mean he has options lmao. You seem to be thinking there is some middle ground of a man who has options but not this magical "myriad" number, that is too many options, but there isn't. Most women want the same types of things becuase that's how humans are, so its really very bimodal. In most cases men either have no other serious option then the girl …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 08:00 PM
1	Men don't need to settle - they choose to women want to feel special. That's becuase they have been told that, its not becuase they naturally feel this. So we have women being picky with respect to this -> smaller pool -> more desperation in men -> pickier women. So it’s always going to be a positive feedback loop. What we need to do is normalize men being alone. Not every guy is going to be paired up and that’s okay! This is a terrible idea, this is how you get increased radicalism and how all the money drains out of your economy and h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 07:56 PM
-1	Men don't need to settle - they choose to They do but a lot of men do not know this, and so they just think they finnaly lucked out and lock down the first half way decent girl, instead of leveraging what they have, becuase they still think of themselves as that 20 something yo kid that women ignore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 07:47 PM
1	When maneaters and womanizers come across one another what usually happens? man eaters dont really exist	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 07:27 PM
–	It is worth sacrificing a marriage for a paternity test. This is a bad idea becuase then it will allow the government an excuse to collect biological data on every man. The better solution is just to allow the farther to do his dna test in one of the check-ups that couples go to prior to birth or send him some notification to do it prior, and then do the test on the child on the day of birth, or even do it when the child gets their first shots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 07:25 PM
3	The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinity most popular feminist rhetoric is simply just young women justifying being self centred	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 01:46 AM
-6	The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinity feminist will argue what ever they think will win them the argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 10:37 PM
1	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason Well that's what happens when you start believing made up stereotypes without question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 10:36 PM
1	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day These are all examples from women's media, and in sex and the city isnt the point that the flaws are a good thing and how those women act is supposed to be empowering.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 04:21 PM
4	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason do you have any evidence to suggest most pro life people are not Christian? And do you have any evidence that pro choice people are more or equally as likely to adopt?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:44 AM
-3	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason Are you unable to make the logical connection that an implication on Christians is an implication on pro lifers. Or are you truly that bad faith?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:40 AM
1	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day cartoons and tv shows made for a adolescent and under male audience, the adult content you are refering to is not adult content. Its women's TV shows. Adult media marketed toward men doesn't focus on women like that becuase then it would be boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:33 AM
-1	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason https://cafo.org/new-barna-research-highlights-christian-adoption-foster-care-among-3-most-notable-vocational-trends/ Practicing Christians (5%) are more than twice as likely to adopt than the general population (2%).	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:26 AM
2	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Portugal, Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, Greece, Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Cyprus, Malta, Iceland, Liechtenstein. Some of these countries even with the mothers consent its still basically impossible to get a paternity test beucae a judge also has to agree which they do not want to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:15 AM
0	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason That's not true at all, pro life people adopt at higher rates then pro choice people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:13 AM
-2	the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, and ironically, the pro-fraud stance, is nearly identical to the pro-choice stance on personal autonomy, which reveals blatant hypocrisy for one reason The law . In a lot of western countries you need a judges permission and/or the mothers permission to paternity test a child, with a lot of instances where one or both will refuse becuase the mother doesnt know where the other potential farther is and doesnt want to give up the child support.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:12 AM
0	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day yeah you are just making shit up, you have no idea what the bluepill is whatsoever. Ironically very typically ignorant for a bluepiller.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:07 AM
1	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day extremely common and you dont ignore things. Its just if you are surrounded by women particularly LW women in education as a child they will simply just never address the negative aspects of women while addressing the negative aspects of men. And therefore you will see mens failings as a tendency of men and any womens failings as simply those of the individual women you meet. Also if you look at a lot of boys media the female love interest is typically someone the MC would fall in love with righ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 02:06 AM
2	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day You dont even need to avoid shitty women tbh, if you just grow up in a sufficiently left wing space, the adults around you will gaslight you into thinking women are perfect with feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:55 AM
-1	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day That's nonsense, that would make black pill blue pill. Also blue pill characterised by the denial and the refusal to address issues aswell as the romantiscisation. The bluepiller can know women aren't perfect but he will practically always defend the idea of their perfection, and will never accept any meaningful critique that might lead to women changing and giving up some modern privilege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:50 AM
2	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day and those women are always portrayed as old hags of some kind, there are very few stories where the normal looking woman is evil. But more importantly very few which show the necessary flaws men need to understand. Which is important becuase unlike girls who are constantly told of the evils of men, boys are almost never.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:49 AM
-1	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day This is such a dumb comment. Its a metaphoric not literal, also this part of the matrix is not entertainment, the RP/BP is in of itself a representation of platos cave which is a real philosophical allegory. This is like calling Davinci's The Last Supper "that photo from The Da Vinci Code movie" .	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:45 AM
3	Embracing the Redpill is like stepping out of a sunlit dream into the cold light of day So taking a metaphor literally is not autistic but using one is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:42 AM
1	Why does it seem many Mainstreams dating apps like Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, paint themselves as "Progressive" and "Female Friendly" yet make most of their money from a large Male audience? maybe but not toeing the progressive corporate party line will get your company torpedoed by the media which is even worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:37 PM
0	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Kind of actually I think gaming is special becuase women are terrible at thinking abstractly or understanding things they haven't experienced, so since most have no direct analog they basically just cant accept that gaming is something that is that enjoyable. Also maybe jealousy aswell in that they dont like men enjoying something so much that doesnt involve them or doesnt require people to be right there. Stuff like fishing i think they are more accepting of becuase culturally its seen as more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:06 PM
1	Why does it seem many Mainstreams dating apps like Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, paint themselves as "Progressive" and "Female Friendly" yet make most of their money from a large Male audience? Its becuase of a while ago the no1 consulting company made this bullshit study that said that progressive values bring in more money, and other companies literally just followed suit so now corporate culture is progressive, and therefore any large corp will be unless it wants to associated with the right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:01 PM
0	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Becuase its the most popular and its long lasting, you might be entertained by a game for a whole day. And for a woman who's only interesting thing that week is talking to you she's gonna see that as a no go.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 07:56 PM
1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? For it to be a woman thing it doesnt need to exclusively only happen to women. Also communication is not the issue, the issue is women dont have hobbies and they are addicted to attention, if they had something to do and they where ok not being constantly validated there would be no problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 07:52 PM
1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Or they will go out with their girl friends every weekend for hours drinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:31 PM
2	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? why would you date a girl that does this lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:30 PM
2	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? you dont want her to go with you tho lol, shes gonna want to do completely different stuff and then when you split up she will complain later that ur ignoring her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:29 PM
-1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Exactly the problem isn't the hobby the problem is you have a hobby. Most women have no hobbies and when they get into a relationship they basically want thier BF to fill that whole where a hobby or interest should go. In short most women dont like gaming becuase it means they cant fully monopolise a mans attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:26 PM
-1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Nah I think its women not having hobbies. To them people are the more interesting then things in a 2 tiered system where people are always more interesting. So when they get a bf he is the most interesting thing to them, and they assume that the same is for guys, but its not most of us have some form of hoby that will at points be something we want to do more then talk to people even out favourite people. Also I think a lot of guys make the absolutely moronic move of inviting their GF over when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:20 PM
2	"Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similar Then ur just proving yourself wrong. If most guys are not into metal and they shouldn't get into it to find a gf, then the original rebuttal you are supposed to be supporting which was "women are not that selective, look at the metal scene" is completely false becuase metal girls dont represent women and the scene is not accessible to most men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:14 PM
1	"Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similar Did you? OP said that women only like a really like a small % of men, then the person who brought metal crowds into the convo brought it up as a rebuttal to that, describing how actually women in metal crowds have way lower standards. So if you are saying most guys shouldn't get into metal for this purpose you are confirming OP correct and refuting the original rebuttal. Congrats genius.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:07 PM
1	"Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortion no you can access it in these countries physically but conducting the test will literally get you thrown in jail and none of the results will be admissible in court.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:00 PM
1	"Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similar then what the fuck is the point about talking about metal then lol if its not applicable to the general population of men. Moreover thats terrible advice becuase most men do not enjoy anything that has a sizable female population. Infact most people hobbies are heavily gendered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 01:56 PM
1	"Child support is the right of the child" is stupid argument against financial abortion OP was making a moral argument not a legal one, in a lot of European countries you cant even get a dna test for your child to find out if its yours without a judge granting you permission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 01:54 PM
0	"Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similar ins't that still a win for the guy? Why would it matter whether or not it is? What implication would that have on men in general inside the metal space or men who might be looking to get inside it to find women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 06:06 PM
7	"Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similar But the ratios at these sorts of events is probably going to be like 3 men to every woman if that. Moreover at every music event there are always guys getting lucky, so just becuase the least fat least pale metal head took what was probably his gf home doesnt really mean much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 05:04 PM
9	There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for dating When women give advice to men, their goal isn't to help the man find the best relationship for him. There aim is make things easier for other women at the expense of his interests. Or they just give incredibly ignorant advice like "just be confident". This is why men should never ask for advice for women they will rarely actually tell a man how to leverage what he has to get what he wants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 02:25 AM
1	If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ? Im not saying the accuser should be punished for making an accusation that just goes no where, im saying that the punishment for a false accusation serves the dual purpose. The first of which is punishing those who actually can be proven to have lied which is the accuser is clearly responsible for the harm that has been caused. The second purpose is intimidating those who are thinking about making an accusation they know wont go anywhere, just so they can get a shot at tarnishing a reputation an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 02:02 AM
0	If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ? They aren't if you call 911 for something clearly frivolous that is a crime. Moreover this is not a analogous situation since a 911 call is not necessarily a hard accusation against someone. The accuser having to go through the legal process aswell is not enough of a disincentive. Disincentives need to meet the relative value of what can be gained if the avg bad actor decides to commit the crime. Having to go to court is nothing if you get to ruin the life of someone you dont like. Therefore the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 01:38 AM
2	Men complaining in a free market where nature chooses will only fall on deaf ears Housing, food, luxuries are all things people fight over to attain. Why is a relationship any different? The irony OP is it is actually different as housing, food and a lot of luxuries are heavily regulated by the government. Moreover even things with low gov regulation have high social regulation. There are few markets where there is not some force acting either within or outside of it to maintain its health. The reason is that every market that it totally void of regulation or agreed upon prot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 01:23 AM
3	If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ? I think punishing accusers is always a bad idea, because it's always easier to suggest something didn't happen than prove it did, But then you also give licence to people to make frivolous accusations, moreover the accusation itself causes harm regardless of outcome. Having a punishment for accusers puts cost on the accuser and therefore disincentives bad actors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 01:16 AM
4	Since conventional wisdom says men make better single parents, would you support more mothers giving up primary custody of their children to the father in an event of a divorce/ breakup? or they actively pursued custody and showed themselves to be the more fit parent. This is a false. Its not that dads get custody when they pursue it, its actually that the only men who have a shot at getting custody are the ones that pursue it. Most law firms will give the client a consultation before they actually decide to take up a case, and in those meetings in 9 out of 10 cases the lawyers will just straight tell the farther that he has no shot at getting his kids and that he would be wasti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 02:26 PM
4	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Women and making things personal lmao. Its not an accurate comparison becuase the avg man is likely not going to assume that a gay mans interest in him is going to translate into women's interest in him. There4 it wont create a mindset of abundance. Moreover the way straight men view sexual attention from gay men is not the same as how straight women view sexual attention from unattractive straight men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:58 PM
13	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Lmao you prove my point. Walking and coffee is literally those men showing the woman that he is interested in her, therefore affirming that she is attractive and giving her an abundance mindset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 11:09 PM
12	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Women get both. They get guys who will gawk and also guys who will message them and court them all the time. These things put women in an abundance mindset when it comes to male attention and so they are much less likely to accept abuse. Men get nothing and so men will accept abuse just for female attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 10:38 PM
24	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? That's absolutely not true. Women might say they dont like attention from men they dont find attractive but they are human beings an affirmation for your physical appearance is always going to make people see themselves as higher value and put them into an abundance mindset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 10:36 PM
22	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? A lot of men are simply incredibly desperate. They get 0 attention from women and so are so starved they will take anything aslong as the girl at least crosses attractive/unattractive bar. Moreover a lot of men do not have the sense of self worth to see themselves as worthy of not being abused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 06:47 PM
56	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Its not that, women just get so much more attention from men, so the perceived value of a relationships is just much lower for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 06:45 PM
7	Question for the Red Pill Community (Fresh and Fit or Tate Version) regarding perceived inconsistent demonstrated values and stated values. I addressed what you said. You say it makes no sense but both fnf and tate quite obviously believe that women exist in two categories either dating material or sex material. Myron even has a catch phrase for women in the latter as "recreational use only". So there is no disconnect you simply ignore this part of what they say and assume they are tradcons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 06:43 PM
12	Question for the Red Pill Community (Fresh and Fit or Tate Version) regarding perceived inconsistent demonstrated values and stated values. There is only a disconnect becuase you assume redpillers are lying when they say thier intentions. When you grant the barest bones of charity everything is quite simple and explained.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 05:23 PM
7	Why men today struggle in dating This leads to usage of dating apps which are designed to milk users, and are also ruthless for men who are not very appealing on their photos, and in general these apps exploit the fact that people are pretty poor at evaluating probability of success. There is a high prize and users(of both genders) naively believe that their chances are real. Its not just that they are designed to milk users, its that they aren't designed for humans. Human heterosexual dating is not symmetrical as the dating st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/24 09:51 PM
-1	What Does self Improvement and agency (power, willpower, freedom, being an active individual) in life mean for a woman? Its delusional to think that simply changing your perspective will get you think things you want becuase you are already perfect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 09:44 PM
-2	What Does self Improvement and agency (power, willpower, freedom, being an active individual) in life mean for a woman? no its litterally the truth that changing your mindset alone is not self improvement, and that nothing has really improved unless you do things in the real world. Also and this part you missed, the mindset womens self help teaches is just delusional and not productive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 07:10 PM
-2	What Does self Improvement and agency (power, willpower, freedom, being an active individual) in life mean for a woman? No its actually putting in steps to improve your life by forming good habits. Also self improvement mindsets are supposed to be more congruent with reality, yet women's self help mindsets are less congruent and more delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 06:40 PM
1	Who here doesn’t want kids? yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 12:58 PM
2	Who here doesn’t want kids? you say "them", but from what i can see the only people saying they dont want kids are blue, purple pill users, who never agreed with the redpill on the "wall" in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 12:58 PM
1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? Holding hatred of women, and hating means holding malicious or intense dislike.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 12:25 PM
1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? typical millenial woman dodging accountability in owning up to being wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 12:24 PM
3	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? No you are posing a question, and a question is not refuting a point, Moreover its just in bad taste to ignore an argument and then demand and answer to a question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 06:55 PM
1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? And? That is true for any scientific fact or argument discussed or used in social, political or philosophical discussions. The point of science is to give us facts about the world so that we can talk about those facts outside of a scientific context. If science just stayed in empiricism it would be worthless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 06:51 PM
-1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? None of that is mysoginy. Moreover redpill doesnt say any of that, it states the facts that women trend toward collectivist thinking and are more subject to peer pressure and overall group trends. Andrew Tate Explains What He Meant : "Women are the property of men"	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 06:50 PM
1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? im not going to answer your question if you dont address what i said first and if you do this again ill stop responding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 02:27 PM
3	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? Again you dont understand redpill and are just getting triggered by words without actually reading or understanding what is being said. Red pill makes no demands of women or men, and the recommendation it gives I stated right at the beginning of my comment. Everything I said is true and none of it is hyper online, the only difference between redpill online spaces and irl is that irl people just dont talk about them becuase it implicates that women aren't perfect. And ill say this again redpill i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 02:25 PM
-4	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? this isn't a world view its a scientific theory for human dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:52 PM
2	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? it absolutely is true, conservatism is an ideology and thus seeks to change society and reinstate traditional values, it also attributes moral weight to being traditional arguing that the individual must be tradtional for the greater benefit of all. Redpill attributes no moral weight to any decision you make, and is a praxeology, so it just shows a way of looking at society. It also doesnt seek to change it and just gives recommendations as to what is within the interest of an individual man. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:50 PM
0	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? you clearly do not understand redpill. Its not about being unbothered infact the expection is that you will be bothered thats why redpill rage is a term, the recommendation tho is that you accept how society is and how women exist within it. Moreover the issue isnt about women or society not caring its about the lies. If you are going to believe that men being nice to women they dont know is more important then mens QoL I can accept that just come out and admit thats what you are doing. Admit th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:46 PM
0	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? no its not red pill is a praxeology on dating, its not a world view. Typical blue pill you dont know anything about redpill so you just assume its conservatism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:22 PM
-2	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? physiognomy is black pill. Redpill also doesnt encourage any of that stuff, it tells men to build value and then gain self confidence from the accomplishments that built your value. Moreover red pill is not a traditional ideology so idk why you are talking about traditional masculinity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:21 PM
-1	Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities? The thing I don't like about the red pill is how hard it makes the heart Why? How can you put the blame or the ire toward the thing that opens peoples eyes to the uncomfortable truth rather then the forces making the truth so uncomfortable. In general I think most women is you aren't actually against RP, they just dont like guys being mad at them for their privileges and would rather sacrifice a mans QoL if it to make said man nicer to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 01:18 PM
0	Attending a rap concert was a humbling experience as an average guy. becuase that would come with the accountability of accepting they have shallow interests and women will never accept that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 12:04 AM
–	Are men becoming ok with no sex? No this depends if he's not in a state where he can get decent looking women to act properly hes just going to waste his time and money talking to any girl seriously. If he talks to any girl it should be on his terms and be willing to drop girls whenever they become an inconvenience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/24 01:52 PM
7	Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother. Salsa dancing is very well known for this 😂 But you can try some other activities where there's a healthy gender ratio and with lots of young people. This one is also good becuase you can learn how to dance, which can really boost ur social standing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/24 05:28 PM
0	If all men prefer young women what should wifed up women do after the age of 40? nothing if all you have is your attractiveness uve got no hope to find love or any long term commitment from anyone you might actually like. What should happen is before 40 you should learn the other things outside of sex that attract and keep a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/24 02:37 AM
0	How do red pillers explain George and Amal... george clooney is not redpill	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 11:09 PM
-1	How do red pillers explain George and Amal... No becuase part of what she is offering him is sexual exclusivity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 11:08 PM
0	How do red pillers explain George and Amal... if he's providing for her which he was he's being loyal, monogamy is not a human trait its something socially enforced. If she out earned him she would hypergamous trade up if she could.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 08:13 PM
30	How do red pillers explain George and Amal... It doesnt really disprove it. Firstly they got married when he was 53 and she was 36, with them meeting when they where 52 and 35. So its not like he married a woman his own age lol. So when he did his first movie at 22 she was 5. Also looking at the headlines their marriage has basically fallen apart and aparently its becuase he was cheating and prolly fucking some 20 y/o pussy on the side. So redpill vindicated yet again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 07:09 PM
–	Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL? If a man wasn't taking a girl seriously he would be told to commit or stop talking to her, and if he didn't the dad and brothers would probably come over and fight the guy. So in short the cost would be violence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 04:30 PM
-1	Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL? Most women don’t get ran through! True but the more attractive the girl the higher likely hood they are. Like a 5/10 and you see no obvious red flags ur probably safe, a 6/10 or 7/10 you should probably just assume they are unless you see strong reasons why they wouldn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 02:55 PM
0	Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL? Women do go for bottom 80 but it's only like later in life when they give up on chads who don't wanna settle or think with their brain instead of their heart aka feelings to get the better option. I disagree women definitely go for the 80 while they are young, the dymanic is just not good. You will have do most of the perusing and compromising in the relationship, they will only go for you if you go head first into commitment right away, you will definitely have to pay for everything and she wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 02:53 PM
8	Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL? Also there where systems in place to ensure monogamy by forcing people to commit or at least having high costs on both the man and woman for not committing, therefore preventing the 80/20	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 02:46 PM
9	Do you believe circumcision is harming males? The irony that both the right and left in America argue for this. And most europeans have banned both forms of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 09:36 PM
3	Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it? Number 4 also applies to society at large. Look at how many women just on this sub have absolutely no care for the maintenance of society or their own cultures if it means some personal sacrifices. If women could somehow reproduce without men, and men disappeared women would still be fucked becuase society would get to like 3 generations, and then it would crumble becuase the young women wouldn't feel any duty to maintain their culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 12:33 AM
-7	Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it? It wouldn't becuase as we can see right now when women have autonomy they make choices that are bad for society becuase of ego. So its actually better for them not to have full autonomy and to be restricted socially.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 12:30 AM
4	Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it? They end up as heads of a household due to patriarchy and using violence as a means of control. No very few men would ever even threaten to hit their wives, most DV is mutual, and woman initiate most domestic disputes. The truth is violence is apart of reality, and is how ethical principles and norms materialise into society. Therefore men lead becuase men took rights and morality out of the meta physical space, and enforce it in the real world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 12:29 AM
4	Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to men But it’s laughable to paint an entire advocacy group with the same large brush you’re complaining about. The difference is the core values of feminism is anti male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 05:51 PM
1	Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to men true feminist dont want equality they want female supremacy becuase its within the core ideological values to see men as an oppressor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 05:49 PM
3	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues No, it's not. Therapy is beneficial to men, telling them it's not discourages them from seeking help, which results in needless suffering and loss of life. This is how you can tell the manosphere does not care about helping men. Seeking help that is ill-equipped to actually help you increases the chances that men will just kill themselves or not seek any help ever. You need to be honest with people not lie. Also you dont care about helping men lol, you literally listened to two men tell you ther…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 01:53 AM
3	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues That's a blatant lie.... It's disgusting. No its true talk therapy was developed for women, women benefit from endlessly expressing themselves becuase they gain much more catharsis from being heard. Whereas in men do not as their mental anguish comes from catastrophising. Talking endlessly doesnt address that problem. Also you dont give a fuck about mens mental health as BP only talks about mens mental health in so far as it can be used as a tool to blame men or try to get men to become more fem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 11:49 PM
3	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues And therapy is to blame. You have seen two guys now explain how therapy did not work for them. If therapy is medicine for the mind then if it fails its not the patients fault but the drug. And this mentality that men are to blame is why men dont seek therapy, people like you cant let go of the ridiculous idea that men and women are the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 09:40 PM
1	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues Because women are more likely to seek mental health services. That doesn't make it worthless for men, and also the manosphere actively fights against normalizing men seeking mental health services. It largely is, the current model was developed for women, and in general the field of spychology is very femininised in terms of its approach. So why isn't the manosphere advocating for men to go into those fields? What are you talking about MRAs have been advocating for more mens mental health profes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 09:35 PM
7	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues Because women are more likely to seek mental health services. That doesn't make it worthless for men, and also the manosphere actively fights against normalizing men seeking mental health services. It largely is, the current model was developed for women, and in general the field of spychology is very femininised in terms of its approach. So why isn't the manosphere advocating for men to go into those fields? What are you talking about MRAs have been advocating for more mens mental health profes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 09:35 PM
–	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind More projection. You think the people you hate dont disserve rights and therefore you believe RP must feel the same. You anti RP need to understand that just becuase you hate the true face of women that RP shows does not mean that RPers hate them aswell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 02:36 PM
-2	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind I dont think kids should be able to vote that doesnt mean i hate kids. Hatred is malice its not just a stand in for "idea i do not like". RP does not hate women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 10:26 PM
10	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? All issues of pay are the choice of capitalists who set the wages not the workers that labor for them. There are certain lifestyles (that may or may not be choices) which affect women's pay, but at the end of the day the whole issue exists because workers don't have the agency to manage and set their own compensation for the work they do. So long as enterprises exist at the whims of individual owners and those subordinate to them, your only hope of a consistent and equal pay rate is going to be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 10:08 PM
0	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind You ahve to hate women for it to be misogyny RP doesnt hate or denigrate women for what they are, it just points it out so men can benefit from the knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 09:50 PM
1	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind There is no disconnect; this is what the red pill talks about daily. Especially on social media sites like Youtube and Twitter and even in this subreddit. There is a disconnect you are BP so you cant imagine someone seeing the world through RP praxeology and accepting that world for what it is. Moreover RP triggers you and so you pick and choose what parts of RP self descriptions you believe to justify ur anger. For example when RP says "women are whores" you shut ur ears off there becuase its h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 09:27 PM
3	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind The point is you need to know how society is broken if you want to leverage it to better your standing. The disconnect is you are projecting your own triggered emotions onto RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 04:38 PM
10	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind Red pill has never been not been about the individual. Whats happened is redpill points out truths in society particularly about women that offend you, so instead of listening further you get triggered and assume redpill is complaining when its not. Redpill is a praxeology the individual can use to leverage his own assets to get a better deal in the dating market aswell as other aspects of life, its not a social movement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 04:36 PM
6	Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind This is why Anti RP fails so hard none of you watch or listen to any large RP channels or figures but then you pull these random blogs. Also everything is a grand narrative especially dating, our society is built around the family therefore overarching trends within society are informed by or feed into changing the dating dynamics we have. I swear you guys will say anything but hold women accountable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 04:32 PM
–	Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income? Firstly bank accounts for regular people is a contemporary thing. Women have always been able to open bank accounts and run businesses. The first printing press in the US was owned by a woman. Secondly I can tell even you know ur wrong, if you had any real argument your first response would be to point to a statistic, but you know by all the metrics progressive ideals have failed. Relationships are simply worse now becuase we ignored truth that men and women are different. There is a reason why …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/24 07:06 PM
–	Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income? Yes, the glorious past where your wife stayed home raising the kids and definitely not popping valium and getting drunk all day while fucking the milk man and your neighbor Greg. Women and men were miserable in that situation. They just couldn't get divorced. I love how this is the fantasy you have to spin up to justify the absolute failure of modern prog ideals. Modern men and women are sadder, have less relationships with each other and the few they do have are weaker. Traditional values didn'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/24 03:50 PM
–	Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income? based on your logic. If women dont care about a man earning more then them, we should see marriage rates as women earn more not change. But we dont we see as women's earnings increase marriage rates fall.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/24 03:44 PM
–	Why are adult Anglospherian females obsessed with a man's income? if that where true marriage rates wouldn't be falling aswell as that we wouldn't see marriage rates the strongest in the demos where men out earn women the most, also men breadwinners still make up the majority of marriages. Women are hard wired to care about a man being able to overmatch her providing capabilities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/24 12:09 PM
0	Women hate the manosphere because the manosphere teaches men to protect themselves from women, which makes it harder for women to exploit us What are you talking about? most men are bombareded with leftist messaging, female teachers, a lot come from single mother households. The overwhelming majority of assholes are nice guys at first. Women make men assholes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 02:31 PM
2	Why some men are willing to enter into LTR with a woman but reluctant to make her his wife? Some comments to another post opened my eyes. It seems we women can't really trust some 'relationship guys' even. It seems some guys also separate women from LTR & women who are fit to be the wife The RP truth is that women should base their attractiveness on what types of guys will give them commitment not who will fuck them an that when they do so a lot will realise they arent as attractive as they think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 02:49 PM
5	Why some men are willing to enter into LTR with a woman but reluctant to make her his wife? Some comments to another post opened my eyes. It seems we women can't really trust some 'relationship guys' even. It seems some guys also separate women from LTR & women who are fit to be the wife A date and an LTR are poles apart... u know that right? Did I say they where the same? Like if a girl is not into you or willing to sleep with u (assuming she's not very religious) even after 10+ dates, then yes you are entitled to get angry or feel hurt. Same thing in an LTR. A 5 year old relationship where you have moved in, adopted a cat or a dog, gone on trips, have same humour, met each other parents many times over , is still not leading to a marriage? Yes, she has the right to think your …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 02:47 PM
7	Why some men are willing to enter into LTR with a woman but reluctant to make her his wife? Some comments to another post opened my eyes. It seems we women can't really trust some 'relationship guys' even. It seems some guys also separate women from LTR & women who are fit to be the wife Becuase its not the 1940s anymore, feminism happed you got what you wanted, Now just like how taking a girl on a date doesnt necessarily suggest sex, dating and being in a loving relationship does not do the same for marriage. In regards to your overall question, a girl can be great for a GF but not have the required qualities for a wife like being a good home maker, being agreeable enough, caring enough, maybe shes got a low iq etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 02:33 PM
12	Young women today may be perpetrating sexual assault at similar rates as young men, according to recent data an interesting way this manifests is with strippers, male strippers report being inappropriately touched propositioned for sex way more then female strippers becuase the women just dont think that consent is something they need from men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 02:14 AM
2	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? sally is the motorcycle one, and yeah i agree. All the rest seem annoying as fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 01:23 AM
1	Okay, forget looks, which personality would you pick? Sally i dont give a fuck about cars tbh but she seems like shes the only one who isnt insufferable	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 01:22 AM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub no you haven't lmao, also hes not misogynistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 01:19 AM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub so really you have just seen clips of interviews and probably clipped by leftists and the interviews where also probably his more hostile ones. Try actually listening to the whole videos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/24 12:58 AM
2	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub He's never said you need these things to be happy. His main message to be happy is just to work out, get a good job and improve yourself as a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 01:37 PM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub Whats rubbish is saying a man should have responsibility to provide, to protect, console and generally perform all the traditional roles a man does while not having any authority. That's literally just a slave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 01:36 PM
1	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub To know its a shit sandwich you actually have to see the shit or at least smell it. You have done neither, uve just heard there is shit and made ur mind up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 01:30 PM
-3	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub false https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btbuhfLZXn8	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:28 PM
-6	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub No hes explained this like 50x times. He says if the man is going to be responsible for his woman's safety and for providing for her life he should have ultimate authority becuase of this. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vv4DM0q20uo?feature=share	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:27 PM
-2	Most of what Andrew Tate says is spilled between the lines by women on this sub That is what most of tate says, you only think otherwise becuase you have never watched his shows.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 03:22 PM
–	Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's life they dont becuase if they did they would have taken them. As if you have two girls that you like, one that makes you wait, another that doesnt you will take the one that isn't playing pointless games.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 01:42 AM
–	Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's life Ok I see the issue here. You think that becuase men will leverage commitment to get sex that means that women have to uber hot to get commitment. This is wrong. If a woman is way at the end of a guys league, say hes a 5/10 and shes a 7/10, a lot of guys will commit even if they dont like her that much personally just becuase they dont think they can get sexual access, which is what they really want, any other way. This however does not mean that you have to be that much more attractive then the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 11:13 PM
–	Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's life the men that dont want to fuck early have no other options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 11:01 PM
–	Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's life This is entirely cope lol. Most women just have no personality that is why they are passed over and pumped and dumped. This is also why most men marry when they are ready to a "boring" girl, its becuase what reason is there to marry early? Those girls also arent boring, they are wives. They get married to them becuase they do the wifely duties and make the mans life easier. The "exciting" girls get passed over becuase they cost too much in effort, money attention etc in relation to what they off…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 10:59 PM
1	Modern feminism and sex positivity have ironically cemented power in men (albeit fewer) even further Imagine being tall, successful, handsome. Swipe, ask girl out, drive across the street, have a couple drinks, talk, come back and have sex. Bro its crazy I have a friend whos doing pretty well for himself and hes a tall guy, he tells me all these stories about how these girls at work, often in these serious committed relationships, just throw themselves at him. Its actually wild.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 12:52 AM
–	Why men must never open up to women. Then the latter point is true, you are bringing up incoherent anger defensively becuase you are triggered by men critiquing women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 01:11 PM
7	Why men must never open up to women. Men do actually care for each other that's how societies are built lmao, if u only came together during conflict ur never going to have the trust required to actually succeed. You are one of those guys im talking about where you probably never had real friends you can actually talk to and so you seek this sort of thing out from women which is a massive mistake. A nurturing woman is good for nurturing children not for emotionally supporting a man. You need to find real friends that will still hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 10:31 PM
3	Why men must never open up to women. Everything you wrote was just nonsense random specific edge cases are meaningless, and do not prove your point whatsoever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:27 PM
7	Why men must never open up to women. No you are just proving OPs point correct, in a conversation about men opening up you are bringing up random edge cases as a cover to obfuscate from women dropping the ball.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:24 PM
2	Why men must never open up to women. You clearly do becuase in a conversation about men expressing themselves as in how most men in general express themselves you are bringing up threatening behaviour. That is a direct insinuation that a man venting his frustration is threatening. Or you are acting defensive and bringing up irrelevant extreme cases as a way to deflect from womens fault in not being receptive to men. either way OPs point is proven.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:21 PM
16	Why men must never open up to women. Lmao the bluepill hypocrissy strikes again. How can you say most men are not great at expressing their emotions, but then be in complete denial that most women are not very receptive to them. Open ur eyes society is made up of men and women constantly interacting, its insanely rare that one genders social issues have 0 causal link to the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:18 PM
1	Why men must never open up to women. You can want someone to share their emotions and feelings AND want to only date adults who have adult level emotional regulation abilities. Lmao the avg young woman has barely any emotional regulation, ffs they cry after a hard day at work	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:10 PM
5	Why men must never open up to women. Adults are not supposed to "open up" to the point of threatening behaviour. If ur threatened by a man venting his fustrations you are proving OPs point about women not really being able to handle men opening up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:09 PM
19	Why men must never open up to women. Exactly men need to open up to men this is why finding actual friends who will have your back through thick and thin is vitally important but sorely neglected by seemingly a lot of guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 08:06 PM
4	Women want sex robots, so why do women make fun of men who want them? Its cope. Women dont want sex robots they just dont want to be seen as salty about getting replaced. Women need men becuase to women the external social aspect of a relationship is something they really crave, also the validation a person brings just cant compare if you know ur talking to a robot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 11:56 PM
3	How do you believe that the dating world is working? I literally can’t even come up with a solution that would WORK, can you?? You cant come up with a solution becuase your BP modality of approaching the problem doesnt work. But the solutions are there. Firstly ban minors from social media entirely. Then put gov money into matchmaking like we do with green energy, particularly into apps find some basic rules for how the apps need to treat male and female users and then tell all general dating apps that if they dont follow those rules there banned.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 01:02 AM
1	How do you believe that the dating world is working? Working” doesn’t mean perfect. In a world where many different people want many different things, regulating things to only produce one result (in this case: trying to get more men married) will end up producing LESS freedom for all the people who don’t want that result (ie all the men and women who don’t want to be married, unless it’s a partner of their own choosing.) But clearly these freedoms are only something that a minority of people are actually enjoying and really wanted. The overwhelmi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 12:44 AM
1	How do you believe that the dating world is working? I personally believe, dating doesn't work. So then why do you guys keep saying that men shouldnt try to adapt to make it work for them, or reject changing social norms back to when it actually did work, hell or even propose new modalities. This is my fustration with BP, you can recognise that there is a problem but whenever ppl argue for solutions you guys clam up becuase god forbid women loose some social freedoms for the greater good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 12:33 AM
–	It’s 2024. “Go to the gym” and “be confident and maintain frame” is the new “buy her flowers and hold open doors” here we go more black pill nonsense	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 12:26 AM
2	Question for Red Pillars: If looks & money + status were all that mattered, how do you explain Ariana Grande's romance with Ethan Slater? Ari is mega-famous + conventionally pretty. And while Slater has had some fame on Broadway & a voice artist, he's not some Hollywood heartthrob or millionaire She could prolly find a guy of higher value but for her she's not gonna find a guy of higher status that will be monogamous especially in that hollywood music and acting industry. Also OP leaves this out but grande has a history of breaking up marriages, so for her its also a bit of a fetish/insecurity thing where she went for this dude specifically becuase he just had a kid and she gets something out of feeling like she can break up strong relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 12:25 AM
1	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. Yes it is. Just because men are more interested and willing to engage in casual sex does not mean that sex isn’t tied to romance for men. No man is engaging in a romantic relationship with a woman he finds unattractive and with whom he is not interested in sexually Sex for men isnt tied to romance, we can very easily be sexually attracted to a woman we would never date, dont respect, dont like and would never be seen publicly with. Sexual attraction for men is purely sexual it isn't tied to roma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 12:21 AM
21	Question for Red Pillars: If looks & money + status were all that mattered, how do you explain Ariana Grande's romance with Ethan Slater? Ari is mega-famous + conventionally pretty. And while Slater has had some fame on Broadway & a voice artist, he's not some Hollywood heartthrob or millionaire Its also not even an exception. OP says Ethan is a lvm but he is an accomplished actor and muscian, the guy has a tony award ffs. Sure hes not ariana grande levels of fame and fortune but he's a very successful considering how finicky that industry is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 08:39 PM
3	Question for Red Pillars: If looks & money + status were all that mattered, how do you explain Ariana Grande's romance with Ethan Slater? Ari is mega-famous + conventionally pretty. And while Slater has had some fame on Broadway & a voice artist, he's not some Hollywood heartthrob or millionaire He is not below average lmao. He is a very accomplished actor musician, hes been on multiple successful and large projects like SpongeBob Squarepants, the one they met on wicked and has even won the tony award for best actor in a musical in 2018. He almost certainly has a lot of money and has a lot of status within Hollywood. Sure hes no brad pitt but hes far above "below average".	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 08:38 PM
2	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. No they are not this is why I said the words "romantically attracted" Men are not like women our sexual attraction is not tied to wanting to commit and date a woaman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:34 PM
2	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. bezos's wife divorced him, trumps first wife also divorced him and the other one cheated on him. Because they know their mistress is worse than their wife or they don’t wanna go through a messy divorce. Men are not women. Men can be attracted to a woman without wanting to commit to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:20 PM
2	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. Because modern women have used thier freedom to become people men are not romantically attracted to, and therefore any man who has sense should not assume any given woman is some exception and commit until prove otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:05 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills Right…. which is why so many RP men and creators use women being more emotional as a crutch, or actively explain how men are more equip to lead at every aspect because they’re stronger and more logical, or how the woman’s role is to support the man and basically be a supporting character in his story. Again thats your value system. you believe leader = better supporter = worse, RP does not make this conclusion you do becuase you believe that only masculine roles are something to be valued. The R…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 04:57 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills Please show me who made you arbiter of what is and isnt correct lmao. Ur incapable of honesty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 04:14 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills its not a specific subset its wildly popular with young men, keep coping tho. Becuase ultimtalely why the younger generation will forever be redpilled is becuase BP white knights like you will always deny thier issues and further prove RP correct.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:55 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills but the redpill used this to actively explain why men are better than women Red pill does not say this, that is a conclusion you have come to yourself becuase you simply value the aspects that men excel in more then those of women. What red pill does say is that women want men who are better then them. the redpill takes it a step too far by entirely missing the point of stoicism and actively encourages men to distance themselves from their emotions rather than take a more open two sided approach…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:53 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills its not generic self help becuase generic self help doesnt put anywhere near as much emphasis on the value of improvement, nor does it really impart on you the reality of how superficial women are. Also you have no idea what red pill does or does not talk about lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:36 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills From where? Guys here make this claim all the time yet I have never found a woman who has said "yeah I told guys all they have to do is be nice." It sounds like they took advice from either their grandmothers or romcoms. So right away ur just gonna start lying lmao. You are why RP is so popular lmao, you just throw away any good faith you might of had by just saying whatever nonsense you think will help you in the given moment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:27 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills like what exactly ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:21 PM
–	A lot of the discussions here are trash because people can't differentiate between the pills where is the misogyny?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:20 PM
1	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. it’s not a good idea to date a man with potential. He may leave once he moved up in terms of making money and being in good physical shape, his options for women will increase and he knows it. This is entirely female projection becuase this is what women do. Men do not trade up, they might cheat abit but when they are locked in they are locked in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:17 PM
5	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. Yeah but you dont have to take this as an absolute lol. You an want some things to be actualised and others to still be potential. The point is date someone who has actualised their capacity for the important traits as a partner like to be honourable, principled, masculine etc but still has not realised their potential in the more tertiary traits like finances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:14 PM
3	Telling women to date men “with potential” is the gender flip version of “If you cant handle me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best”. Its not that he isnt into the girl its that it makes no sense to commit like that to the avg modern woman. Women today have to just take it on the chin and accept that becuase of how they are now they are the ones that have to go out on a limb to get a successful guy who will provide for them and not cheat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 03:11 PM
0	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. a college students econ class is going to be thier parents econ class not thier own so you wouldn't look at thier earnings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 04:35 PM
2	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. No im not you are doing what OP is talking about you are looking at the stats of all adults all over the US and then extrapolating that to apply to young people when it really doesnt. Moreover its also not anywhere near a high requirement to meet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 04:34 PM
0	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. That doesnt refute anything tho.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 03:58 PM
5	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. The majority of middle inc and higher are not overweight tho that is the point. The avg american being overweight is becuase lower inc people are overweight at much higher rates and lower inc people have more kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 01:02 PM
1	Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her? And saying 68% of american women are obese is false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:29 PM
-4	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. Its not moving the goal post becuase when ppl talk about avg they really mean something closer to the median, in that as op says they mean someone who is commonly seen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:24 PM
6	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. nope its pretty well established that poorer people have significantly higher rates of obesity During 2011–2014, the age-adjusted prevalence of obesity among adults was lower in the highest income group (31.2%) than the other groups (40.8% [>130% to ≤350%] and 39.0% [≤130%]).	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:18 PM
9	Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her? do BP women ever not lie lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:10 AM
2	Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her? obesity rates in the US are only at 40% for women	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:09 AM
1	Being Traditional is impossible for men and expecting of them is flat out gaslighting. But its in support of your overall argument that as marriages have become less traditional rates haven't fallen and ur using colledge grad marriages as an argument for that overall conclusion. Therefore its relevant to point out college grad marriages are actually more traditional then non college grad marriages becuase men earn more and are more likely to be able to be male breadwinners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 07:30 PM
1	For the tradcons/red pillers who think that the current Western ideologies is responsible for high divorce rates- why is that socially conservative Middle Eastern countries have high divorce rates too? That's arguing correlation is causation. The west is successful largely because Europe is just geographically and environmentally advantageous for human societal development and the monogamy brought about by Christianity massively increases efficiency and societal cohesion. This success then begets laxity on gender roles mostly becuase businesses and governments benefit more from it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 05:36 PM
2	Men Admit: This Is Why herPast Drives you Crazy That's what i though ur entire argument is "i believe this becuase it makes me feel better to believe this". This is why women are a joke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 05:27 PM
1	Men Admit: This Is Why herPast Drives you Crazy According to what? Your fantasies? You are not a man, you dont understand men, so when men tell you what men think stfu and listen lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:43 PM
-2	Being Traditional is impossible for men and expecting of them is flat out gaslighting. This actually proves your argument wrong. Non college grads means 2 ppl who just have HS level education, those two ppl are probably going to earn a similar amount bc they have the same qualification. College grad can mean an earnings diff of that between a software dev comp sci grad and school teacher sociology grad. We can even see this in the data which shows male grads earn more On top of that becuase college allows men to earn way more it actually allows them to potentially support their fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:41 PM
-4	Being Traditional is impossible for men and expecting of them is flat out gaslighting. most marriages are still male breadwinner	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:24 PM
1	For the tradcons/red pillers who think that the current Western ideologies is responsible for high divorce rates- why is that socially conservative Middle Eastern countries have high divorce rates too? Scapegoating the West for social changes happening literally everywhere the Internet and modern technology generally exist is a bit of a cop-out. I dont think so at all, the western world is amazing at exporting culture. Moreover the export isn't always direct sometimes western cultural norms just exacerbate things that already existed but where not as prominent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:14 PM
10	For the tradcons/red pillers who think that the current Western ideologies is responsible for high divorce rates- why is that socially conservative Middle Eastern countries have high divorce rates too? Becuase of america. People forget the US's no1 export is not weapons or dollars its culture. All the countries listed are massively influenced by western culture, obviously they are not western but you will find mcdonalds, dating apps, youtubers etc. The west is the world hegemon and that means its cultural infections spread far and wide especially with the internet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:09 PM
1	Men Admit: This Is Why herPast Drives you Crazy You know people can embarrass and disgust each other right? The fact that you cant accept this proves my point, women's egos cant handle the fact that their beauty isn't some absolutely charming power becuase they invest so much of their personality into it, they also cant handle that they have to choose between exploiting their beauty to do what they want and successful relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 03:02 PM
1	Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality? obese no overweight yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 11:30 PM
3	Men Admit: This Is Why herPast Drives you Crazy No you dont get it becuase you aren't a man. As a woman your life doesn't change much if people dont respect you aslong as your hot and nice amenable etc you will be mostly ok. If you are a man however it is night and day even outside of your own ego. If ppl dont respect you as a man ppl will literally just antagonise you, take advantage of you, you finances will suffer bc the prof world is massively about connections. Everything in your life gets worse and your woman being a whore can put you t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 11:29 PM
8	Men Admit: This Is Why herPast Drives you Crazy That's cope that women tell themselves as a nice lie. Its about disgust, embarrassment and the feeling of being used. Men understand that commitment is something that is valuable becuase your woman reflects on you as a man massively. So when you find out a woman was a whore in the past a lot of men feel a similar way a lot of women feel when some chad sells her a dream of a relationship for a quick fuck. Also a lot of men are romantically turned off intrinsically by promiscuous woman, as in just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 11:13 PM
–	Over 85 percent of dating problems would solve itself if women didn’t go for men out of their league. The math is wrong on this massively, firstly only 7% of women above 18 are in between 18-25, moreover its clearly counting the same people multiple times becuase they exist in multiple categories like for example 20% of women are obese and 34% are overweight but this is probably counting women who are obese separately instead of counting them as one category as all obese women are overweight. If we do the actual calculations and start with overweight at 34%, that leaves 66% of women not overweig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 11:07 PM
1	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Not really. Just be a man who communicates what you actually want, instead of playing mind games n blaming a woman for not figuring it out You have no reason or right to expect a man to "be a man" when is society does not reward him for doing so. In this scenario since women punish men for being upfront and reward men for playing the game men have no reason to be upfront. Yall don't like when women strictly go out with you for free meals, but mislead you to believe she actually wants or likes yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 10:17 PM
3	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Women should just be responsible adults and not play dumb like children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 10:03 PM
1	TRP fundamentally misunderstands and misrepresents Stoicism No a philosophy in this respect is necessarily a universal argument on what is and what is not moral, a stoic for example says you have a moral duty to live in accordance with nature and that you have a social responsibility to must meet. A utilitarian says you must do things that bring about the most welfare to the most people. RP is not a philosophy like this becuase it doesnt put any moral imperatives on anything, RP doesnt say all men must be RP and it doesnt say its wrong to be BP, Its just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:54 PM
1	TRP fundamentally misunderstands and misrepresents Stoicism TRP misinterprets that to mean showing any kind of emotional vulnerability damages your image, even though literal kings and emperors cried This is nonsense you just made this up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:33 PM
4	TRP fundamentally misunderstands and misrepresents Stoicism its almost like OP doesnt get RP	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:30 PM
4	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Yes it is. Its one person who has demonstrated they are sexually attracted to another escalating the level of intimacy from a successfully sexually charged event they shared(the date) by asking them to come to the place that they typically have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:25 PM
6	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Nope, a huge amount of human communication is non verbal or non explicit implications. In fact saying everything you are thinking explicitly all the time is actually how children and people with learning disabilities communicate not adults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:10 PM
10	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? No it isn't, and if you or anyone else dont understand this or refuses to accept this, then they should not be going on dates with anyone until they can. Its your responsibility as an adult to understand social cues or make it clear to other adults that you dont. Staying silent and ignorant is not acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 09:00 PM
1	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? i'm a normal person and won't be having sex immediately The norm is actually that a lot of people have sex on the first date or have had ons. So there's no reason not to expect it if the man thinks the date went well. Moreover its better for women to be as frank and honest as possible as most men are not upfront becuase they think women would feel offended by honesty, so if the woman is honest first it will increase the chances the guy is aswell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 08:02 PM
0	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Maybe she likes him and had fun so she wants to continue the date? That doesn't mean that she wants to fuck him. Then that needs to be made clear and told in a very frank way. As going to someone's house is basically code for "im am down to have sex with you at some point tonight". So either the girl lied by omission by going and not fucking, or she is at fault for not having the basic social understanding. To expand on the latter point, just like how its often mens responsibility to understand …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:51 PM
14	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? One adult inviting another back to their place for drinks is hard sexual advance, if you cannot recognise this as an adult then the fault is on you for even dating to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:49 PM
-2	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Just becuase the likely conclusion is one you dont like doesnt mean you came to it to be pessimistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:47 PM
0	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? No he just wants an upfront answer, if you aren't interested in fucking just make that clear right away and ask him if he still wants to go on the date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:45 PM
4	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? But its understandable why a man might be. Women through their actions have created the societal norm that if a man wants to proposition a woman for sex he must ask her on a date and that her accepting and having a good time is her saying yes. If women want less men to feel entitled to sex after a date you must be as open to direct propositions as you would be if a guy took you on a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:42 PM
4	A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward? Exactly the dinner doesnt entitle sex, but it is the way that women collectively have told men via their actions which established that social norm that this how proposition women for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 07:36 PM
9	Why "just date someone from your social circle" is often poor advice for nerdy, socially awkward, sexless men and why cold-approaching as many women as possible is better This is why men just shouldn't listen to women's dating advice lol, u guys only ever speak from personal experience and your personal perspectives, while forgetting that the guy who is reading is not trying to date you or only women like you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 07:50 PM
–	One way to determine your relative ranking on OLD ur moving the goal post, First you say the 80/20 rule doesnt exist and now you are what accepting that a minority of men do have massively outsized options, but that its ok? Address the point first before jumping around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 07:40 PM
3	CMV: Most Redpill “Concerns” Really Do Stem From Insecurity no specific definition is better, it just needs to be specific so that he person saying it cannot flip flop to a different position when they loose their first one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 03:43 PM
1	CMV: Most Redpill “Concerns” Really Do Stem From Insecurity "insecurity" is one of the most weaselly words ever. So many use it as a stand in for "overly insecure" or "extremely insecure" as a bludgeon against men, but then when called out all of a sudden they define it as "having any insecurities whatsoever" or not being inhumanly secure in yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 02:47 PM
1	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. Red pill trying to comprehend that we as a society stopped doing something because we realised it’s NOT WORKING challenge (impossible). Wdym not working lol they worked amazingly and companies made tons of money implementing these hard lines. Infact they work so well that even tho there has been like a decade and a half of propaganda attempting to destroy these hard lines, people still readily fall into them natrually. You yourself are an example of that, as you like most women take issue with h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 10:25 PM
1	One way to determine your relative ranking on OLD courses, classes If you approach women in any of these spaces they will say "i didn't come here to be approached by men i came here to learn". travelling here they will say "i came here to see x country not to be approached", or they could easily be from some far off place that you are never going to go to, or be a local in which case you are approaching a woman shopping or whatever. friends of friends This doesnt really work either becuase men and women have different interest, plus friendships…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 10:12 PM
1	One way to determine your relative ranking on OLD I don't know why you keep insisting on using OLD Becuase this is how most people date third spaces where people might have met before are being closed down one after another also women are barely receptive to being approached in any space that isn't explicitly for dating women are largely not receptive to being friends with men and hate when men become their friends to try to date them	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 10:00 PM
1	One way to determine your relative ranking on OLD Basically your profile is shown to a set amount of women per day may you swipe 20 times or a million times it wont change that set amount. Yeah but if ur profile is shown to 100 women a day and only 1 swipes right whereas you are shown 100 profiles and u swipe on 50 how is that not showing that women mostly gravitate toward the top % of men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 09:54 PM
1	One way to determine your relative ranking on OLD Firstly the 80/20 is not a hard number, its just a catchy stand in for the argument that a minority of men get such outsized amount of options it significantly negatively effects the amount of options the majority of men have. Secondly it doesnt disprove this rule at all. 1 match a day out of what like 40 maybe 50 right swipes, and then that match has like a 10% chance of even saying anything back to you and maybe 1% chance of it ever resulting in her actually showing up to meet you is not dispr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 09:51 PM
7	As long as women take criticisms personally we will never achieve equality or happiness Many men went because they had to, and the woman went to do the best they could. Yet only the men get recognized. You're proving my point, not yours. The overwhelming majority of Vietnam soldiers where volunteers not conscripts. So men get recognised becuase men made up 99.6% of the people who volunteered to fight in the war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:59 PM
1	As long as women take criticisms personally we will never achieve equality or happiness no they know a bear is dangerous they just hate men. Remember this is women we are talking about. Women are never going to be upfront and honest about shit like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:52 PM
6	As long as women take criticisms personally we will never achieve equality or happiness There is nothing wrong with men taking it personally the entire point of the discourse is just to maliciously attack men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:52 PM
0	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. I guess but that is why we use to have hard social lines between men/boy media and women/girl media. These characters where originally never intended for a female audience so it doesnt matter that women get this message, the issue is that we tell girls to watch it in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:44 PM
0	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. if a guy settles for a girl he doesnt have the capacity to cheat, only men who get the women they really want becuase they have high smv can really cheat to any meaningful degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 12:41 AM
1	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. Men do not lower their standards below what they find attractive, they lower their standards below what they think other ppl will judge them for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 12:38 AM
2	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. becuase men and women are different, you might want to see yourself or more personally applicable people in your media but men want to see idealism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 12:37 AM
0	Men desire primarily the top 20% of women, they are just more willing to settle. no the avg man genuinely finds the avg woman attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 12:32 AM
5	most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm women As you can see from the link, in nearly half (45%) of American marriages, the husband is not the breadwinner. So in other words male breadwinner marriages out number both equal and female breadwinner marriages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/24 09:56 PM
16	A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Would be guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well. but men dont do that, infact married men do the opposite they work more	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 07:28 PM
18	What percent of average young women do you think would be open to being respectfully approached by an average young man and be open to going on a date from it? no its going to depend on your luck mostly, looks and charisma.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/24 12:56 AM
–	Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way? And you would be wrong. Life imperative is to continue life, you cant continue life if an organism dies and makes no offspring. The initial organisms life is only a pre requisite to its procreation, its not the goal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 08:26 PM
–	Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way? You are confusing biological imperatives with existential purpose. Whatever your philosophical view may be on existential purpose as a human being does not inherently dictate your psychology; that is determined by biological imperatives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 07:39 PM
–	Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way? I didnt say it was our ulitmate puprose I said its out biological imperative. And its our biological imperative becuase we are living beings who heterosexually reproduce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 07:36 PM
-4	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? I think women dont care becuase they are insecure and so they dont think they have anything meaning full to pass on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/24 11:42 PM
5	Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way? becuase human beings entire psycology is built around achieving our biological imperative which expresses itself in our conscious mind as finding a woman that will love you. So its incredibly difficult(maybe even impossible for most men) to overcome this foundational need for love. On top of that references to sex and relationships is literally all over society so even out social landscape makes this difficult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/24 06:49 PM
1	Deep fakes, leaks and where to go? No you are missing the point. The point is there is no good reason to expand RP or privacy laws in this way becuase these movies are not private. They are selling these movies to any and everyone that has 5 bucks spare, how in the fuck could anyone who bough the movies think "yeah this is private media" or how could the vendor even argue that this is private. To answer your question the good reason is they are selling thier shit to the public. This is how it works you want more public access the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/24 03:40 PM
1	Deep fakes, leaks and where to go? No they dont. You are conflating the two. When you watch pirated media that is a trademark or copy right violation. Revenge porn laws are privacy violation laws, this is why it would make no sense for pornstars to have RP laws applicable to their porn. Their porn is a product sold to the public not private media and so should only be subject to the piracy laws not revenge porn. Carving out nieche for porn becuase women cant handle what "sex work is real work" really means is moronic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/24 04:40 PM
1	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? Unless you where rich they where more romantic becuase each partner valued the other more. Moreover becuase you had to marry to get together, the traits that make someone a good person and therefore partner in the long term where much heavier weighted, meaning better relationship quality. Also currently most relationships right now are mostly just sexual, they aren't serious at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:21 PM
5	Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourse Your first description is almost a trad con, and the 2nd is caricature of RP. Another example of the problem with BPers, you guys have no idea what RP actually is and instead you just assume that RP is some sort of women hating subsection of conservativism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:03 PM
0	Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourse it definitely is for young people at least and in terms of social media it especially is for young women	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 04:58 PM
1	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? Fore sure in much more ancient history, but the single greatest achievement Christianity had on the west is it socially enforced monogamy to a massive degree. Instead of: the bottom 30% of men having no shot; the next 30-40% having lower quality dating options and the top 20%-30% having the ability to be polygamous, Christianity ensured like 80-90% of men got roughly SMV matched options. Feminism has destroyed this and regressed dating back to pre Christian times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 03:57 PM
0	Four Red-Pill Arguments that are Complete myths or very misleading Married men are better off than single men; they are healthier, wealthier, and happier. Single women, however, are better off than married women. Married men are happier than married women, and unmarried women are happier than unmarried men. Divorced men and married women have the highest rates of suicide. A major survey of 127,545 American adults found that married men are healthier than men who were never married or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Men who have marital partners a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 12:57 AM
1	Four Red-Pill Arguments that are Complete myths or very misleading Because it discusses assortive mating which is antithetical to hypergamy. You are missing the point Hypergamy is intention, your studies just show the resultant pair matching which is heavily skeywed by the fact that the sample groups contain a lot of people past 40s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 12:21 AM
1	Deep fakes, leaks and where to go? maybe maybe not, the point to which people stop trusting the internet and deep fakes really go full "you cant even tell" is not necessarily going to overlap 100%. Remember a lot of gen X'ers are still in the work force and will be for a time, and they will set the professional tone for a while.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 12:02 AM
1	Deep fakes, leaks and where to go? We could expand revenge porn laws, and make it illegal to distribute pornography unless the people in it (or people depicted in it) have signed a written contract allowing for distribution. That would be completely counterintuitive and oh so typically hypocritical. If sex work is work then the media pornographers create is a product, its not some intimate moment, and its not some heavy moral crime to share it like it would be if the person wasn't a pornstar. Its a commercial product sold to anyo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 12:00 AM
-2	Which women are allowed to be picky? chaste conservative girls	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 12:55 PM
3	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? For some people romantic life is just not happening Lmao total black pill argument. Btw if this is true you know this is becuase feminism right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 12:54 PM
-1	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? Yeah guys need to move past that red pill rage and just accept what is. Moreover appreciate that the young women today did not choose this, they are products of their environment; and likely most men would be exactly the same given similar circumstances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 12:43 PM
5	Are men upset that mothers will prioritize their children over their lover? That just invites a woman to ask more questions and to not have closure. Lying ends the situation without damaging the woman's fragile ego.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 07:51 PM
6	Men’s positive actions are individualized while their negative actions are collectivized and … men only take collective ownership over building society when women collectively blame men. So actually unlike women men are consistent about socialising ownership.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 06:30 PM
3	Are men upset that mothers will prioritize their children over their lover? Most men just dont want to have parental responsibilities for or get attached to kids they have no parental rights over. Moreover relationships take work and are a process to craft, but when you involve kids all this stuff becomes more complicated. You cant just spontaneously do things bc she has to find child care, you cant just come over whenever bc its really damaging to have adults come in and out of kids lives like that. Its all just harder and its got nothing to do with jealousy that is ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 06:28 PM
1	Are men upset that mothers will prioritize their children over their lover? I have no idea why they wouldn't just be honest with themselves and the other person Becuase anytime men state preferences that disqualify women for their choices they call those men insecure and frame the situation as those men "not being able to handle" them. So most men will just lie becuase they dont want to face the social cost of honesty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 06:21 PM
9	Men’s positive actions are individualized while their negative actions are collectivized and … Men where literally never propped up, before the modernernity the avg man was a peasant with little chance of upward mobility or care to exalt him beyond that which benefited the rich and powerful. So the fact that women now can take collective ownership over praise and privatise the faults while the same does not apply in anyway for men is a hypocrisy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 02:43 AM
1	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. No that is a new thing, prior to recent history most of Americas population growth was just from Americans having kids. Also historically even tho a lot of immigrated to America a huge amount also left becuase they couldn't make it and that was the context in which that phrase was born. Finally immigration is not a solution becuase A. its temporary as I said before these are developing countries and these ppl send money back all the time, when their countries develop a lot will leave and most wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 11:22 PM
2	Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often? nope they will have sex with them and some will even date them, but them doing sex work will allways be a massively unattractive feature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 09:57 PM
1	Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often? This is a lie becuase as you said in your other comment women view prostitutes as being taken advantage of, if women actually viewed sex work as real work then they would see sex work the same as someone who works in sanitary. Moreover a lot of women see leaking of a sex workers nudes as revenge porn, again if SW where seen as work this wouldn't be a deep violation of privacy it would just be run of the mill piracy. Or they would even frown upon a woman having to contractually have sex with a gu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 09:50 PM
0	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. The US population is growing becuase of immigration not becuase of births, also its growing from 2nd world countries. Which as they develop immigration will fall. Also btw idk if you know any south Americans or any minorities but they only vote democrat becuase they are poor. Once they get money they vote conservative becuase most are incredibly conservative. You can even see this to a large degree with the last POTUS election as trump gained massively from the Latino vote becuase a lot of them …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 09:40 PM
0	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. Oh good: another “marriage rates and birth are collapsing!” Despite the growing population numbers globally and in the US. Staggeringly terrible understand on demographics. Other countries population growing doesnt help your country if its population is declining, becuase your country relies on the number of people within it growing not the number of humans on earth increasing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:17 PM
3	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. Its complete bullshit as a bluepiller you cannot measure success on BP experience of the world. The point of RP is that no one notices RP guys that are actually successful, they just blend into society and impart these principles privately and only discuss RP with other RP men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:14 PM
1	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. The red pill hasn’t gained momentum. It’s chasing the same niche of 18-30 year old dudes who struggle so it can make money off of likes and subscribes and superchats. Its almost like that is the point. You BP guys need to just stop talking about RP if you really dont give enough of a fuck to do the base level of research into it. RP is not some overarching ideology that's trying to warp society. Its a praxeology for young men to enable them to get an advantage in the current dating market. This …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:10 PM
6	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. thats not a shit test. This is what is so cringe about BP, you dont watch any RP content but then expect to have valid criticism of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:07 PM
4	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. This is not red pill this is just general self improvement and actually a good thing to focus on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:04 PM
1	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. Yeah a lot of so called red pill guys just watch clips of rude or annoying women getting owned on podcasts, they dont actually watch the full shows and understand the arguments being put forth. Namely that you dont talk to blue pill people about red pill, and you definitely dont talk to women about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:04 PM
3	Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often? in china its super common, i even hear that guys go to brothels with co workers an important clients like western ppl go to bars. This is married and unmarried men btw. Everyone there knows it happens but the women still loose it when they find out	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:12 AM
15	Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often? Yeah I think women will always hate it becuase it removes collective power from them for demanding things from men and men will always be unattracted to female promiscuity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 05:10 AM
1	Social circle game yeah its actually quite rare to have mixed gender groups	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 02:50 PM
3	Social circle game tiny minority, social media and general onlinification has killed socialisation and atomised society for young people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 02:08 AM
3	Social circle game Especially women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 02:07 AM
1	Are the gender ratios on dating apps actually skewed? I dont see the point who cares about overall usage, it doesnt do anything for anyone if somone has used the app but doesnt anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 02:05 AM
–	Women don't like corporate America/ Capitalism and how it treats its workers. But women themselves act in the same matter towards men. job positions are voluntary aswell	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 03:26 AM
9	What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common sense never going to happen becuase women dont hold young women accountable and young women dont listen to men. So young women will do this shit until they grow up and gain a conscience through wisdom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:59 PM
3	Men of PPD, what are your standards? Do you think they are high? standards are way to high bro /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:57 PM
1	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers Most of the women are not drunk on the podcast and they dont ply them with drinks, infact when they are really high or drunk they almost all ways get kicked off. Also the avg age has to be like 26 these girls are not like 20 year olds. Finally the after show is vital as it shows the true reality of modern women in person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:52 PM
1	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers Thats becuase tate only talks to women on camera on other peoples shows, Myron is talking to these women on his show so he has to be the one to maintain order.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:48 PM
2	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers bro they use to do shows 5 days a week for like 2 years, he really doesnt get angry that much, it just seems like that if you only watch 3rd party clips becuase they only show you the times he gets angry without any context or the build up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:47 PM
1	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers Myron doesnt have any resent men for women lmao, Myron goes in on men who call into the show on their Friday fan calls even harder then he does on women but those clips just dont go viral so you dont see them. Also RP this tone policing of RP is moronic. RP is not some social movement that is trying to change things for greater society. Its a praxeology for individual young men to better understand dating and sexual dynamics with the hopes of improve their lot in current society. It doesnt matte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:42 PM
1	Women who hate Redpillers do not hate Redpillers Women believe every successful guy who played them is either a pickup artist or a redpiller. This is why you are wrong OP you forgot the golden rule, never trust women. They dont think he's RP they know they dont know anything about RP, they are just making shit up becuase that's what women do when reality makes them upset, they just lie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 05:27 PM
1	The porn problem will never be solved no its not becuase porn cant cause you to have no goals or nothing to do, you have nothing first and then you develop a porn compulsion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 07:49 PM
13	Do you think men should ever show emotion in front of a woman? This is a luxury belief. The avg guy young man has a chance with 1 or 2 women every 6 months and only in a long term relationship. He cant afford to be looking for a perfect woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 03:25 PM
2	The porn problem will never be solved She didn’t say it was all brutal choking, slapping, and violence. She said “It isn't how people who even slightly like each other have sex.” Most porn sex isn’t loving or affectionate or friendly or warm or caring. It’s not communicative, or playful, or charming, or considerate. A lot of women really really do not want to have to perform the kind of sex shown in so much mainstream porn. Guys talk about not wanting to have to dance like a performing monkey to get sex… well women generally don’t w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 01:59 PM
7	The porn problem will never be solved exactly the problem isn't porn its that your life is shit, you have nothing to do, no goals to achieve, no friends to talk to ,no girls in the roster and so what do you do? Wank all day. Porn isnt some mystical corruption that destroys your brain in most cases, your life is just shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 01:25 PM
1	The porn problem will never be solved Redpill is a praxeology not a ideaology, the whole point of it is that RPers dont agree on a lot of things. Moreover porn is a symptom, people who have their lives in order either dont watch a lot of porn or dont watch porn. This is why all actual effective no fap advice is general life improvement advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 01:23 PM
–	The porn problem will never be solved yeah its just like passport bros, women didn't say anything about passport bros until the idea became popular. Porn aswell, when men still where approaching women porn was largely just accepted by women, now that they arent getting thier attention kick as much there all against porn, while ironically being pro sex worker. When sex robots kick off in the near future we will start to see a myriad of women coming out of the wood works just making up shit to justify their insecurity about being repl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 01:12 PM
2	Misogyny on the Internet Its becuase they dont care, thats what BPers think but dont want to admit becuase they know its a non starter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 09:14 PM
2	Misogyny on the Internet That's not true men haven't given up, the government, corporations and women in general have colluded to massively punish any man trying to take any sort of advantage over women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 09:13 PM
5	Misogyny on the Internet What are you talking about RP was literally founded on improving social skills, ffs this came before the finical advice, the exercise advice and all these new podcasts lol. You dont know what you are talking about at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 09:03 PM
7	Misogyny on the Internet A simple change in posture and expression would make a world of difference, and lifting/frame/and all the other clumsy and stupid red pill prescriptions exacerbate the problem. The cope lol. Just say you dont care its way more believable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 08:59 PM
1	What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with? This sub is about male female relationships lmao not male-male lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 06:20 PM
-1	What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with? then you need to have better friends becuase she has about a coin flips chance of leaving you whereas good friends will stay with you for the rest of your life. Moreover you are always risking her loosing respect for you every time you open up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 06:00 PM
2	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? you mean when they where conquered and when the arabs specifically put in policies to arabise the nation lmao. Korea did not go through anything like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:59 PM
2	Seriously what are autistic men supposed to do? Yeah I actually do find it offensive when someone who has the privilege of not needing good social skills, tells someone with a mental disability that impairs their social skills to "just get over it." and massively down plays the amount of work they will have to put in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:55 PM
0	What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with? there is bound to be a time in your life where you will be vulnerable That's why you have friends	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:51 PM
0	What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with? Thats bullshit, everyone has different types of relationships with the people in their lives. This moronic idea that you need to be vulnerable with your woman becuase you are vulnerable with your friends makes no sense. By that logic people should have sex with all their friends aswell becuase they have sex with their partner. Girlfriends and wives are not just a friend+, its wholly different type of relationship that has its own rules and aspects.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:50 PM
2	What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with? Not quite. The answer is you ask yourself, "do you want to fuck this woman?", if "no" then do what you said, if "yes" never be vulnerable. Tbh its largely pointless as women are mostly incapable of really understanding the male perspective especially when other women are causing you issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:45 PM
1	Seriously what are autistic men supposed to do? Never said I was against getting approached but it's not really my preference especially since I'm in a relationship lmao. In general, I'm not leaving my home with the intention of meeting a partner. Half of the times I've been approached it was by men I hadn't noticed when I was in the middle of something. It's not disdain it's genuine I don't know you exist we're in a public place you're a stranger you didn't catch my eye. Can you read English or are you just that triggered? Idc about you, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 05:43 PM
2	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? Thats not saying much lol, also sk has only had western influence what 50 years, neo confuscionsim and consfuscionism before that has been apart of the nation for centuries.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 09:43 PM
3	Seriously what are autistic men supposed to do? Women existing in public spaces aren't necessarily hoping you approach them or they get approached. This is the disconnect, we're at a bar with friends/grabbing groceries/studying/commuting, we aren't on the prowl for dudes. Every time I've been approached I wasn't hoping to be approached. Every time I've been approached it was by someone I didn't notice upon entering. Idk why y'all don't get this. We don't approach because we aren't constantly on the prowl for a potential fling or partner. Some…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 09:40 PM
0	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? its not a straw man twitter before was just what you described but for left wingers instead of people who actually had popular opinions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 05:13 PM
0	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? Since the Musk takeover, X/Twitter has become a sewer where the voices of grifters and charlatans are disproportionately amplified - it’s completely unanchored from reality. No see heres the thing a lot of you types dont get, what you see on x is not people being overly promoted. What you see on X is normality, this is how popular these ideas and sentiments actually are in real life or at least with general internet users, the reason you dont see this on other sites is simply that they routinely…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 05:10 PM
1	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? Well society collapses if people dont get married enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 05:05 PM
1	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? no it is different becuase ultimately its in civilizational sphere that is very different from the west. So while there will be a lot of similarities the hard facts that the western countries came from christindom and sk from neo confuscionism is going to mean the first principles that dictate the way people address issues or meet societal changes will be different. To the degree who knows tho.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 05:02 PM
1	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? it is becuase Koreans neo confuscionist structure and terrible work life balance makes upward mobility extremely difficult and so young men being taken out of the work place for almsot 2 years is massive. That's basically what a lot of people spend in an entry level position.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 04:58 PM
1	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? Yeah but blue pill guys end up getting cheated on, having to accept behaviours they hate from their woman and then eventually left for a RP guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 04:52 PM
1	Will the gender divide in the West get as bad as we see in South Korea? Yes they are even more hypergamous	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 04:38 PM
3	Seriously what are autistic men supposed to do? Stop listening to women they think collectively in a Chad vs woman framing. All of the advice they give will always be for the imagined benefit of and convenience of other women over a potential chad, they will never give you advice that is actually fully in your own interests or even appropriate for you as a normal guy. This is becuase most women's experience of men is dominated by the most confident men and most attractive men, so their framing for understanding what works and doesnt is fucked…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 04:30 PM
9	Seriously what are autistic men supposed to do? It’s definitely trickier for ND men because so many people expect men to approach first. This is why so many austic men become raging incel misogynists. Its not just just "trickier" its massively more difficult. This sugar coat things to cover up for the fact that actually women make dating extremely hard for men, becuase doing so will not help him or any woman he approaches. Every ND guy I know that is able to maintain romantic relationships has a story about how they were super awkward but kep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/24 04:22 PM
6	The frequent claim that lesbians commit the most DV is a lie You cant becuase two men fighting has a very realistic chance to leave one dead or horribly injured, two women fighting that chance is orders of magnitude lower. Moreover the escalation from a slap to full on brawl is going to be higher with men becuase of testosterone. Therefore these arent adjustable becuase they aren't analogous. Also your data doesnt say what you are arguing. You cant account for 30% of lesbian domestic violence, you leave out that most DV toward bisexual men is from women, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/24 05:10 AM
7	The frequent claim that lesbians commit the most DV is a lie yeah but we are talking about lesbians here the chances that they are likely to tolerate being in a relationship with a man to the point it gets to domestic abuse is incredibly small. So without further data its not reasonable to conclude that its even a 50/50 split, id say out of that remaining 30% at least 27% are probably female abusers. Also in that study 78% of bisexual men report only female perpetrators, suggesting women are more prone to violence. Another common assertion is that while l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/24 04:30 AM
1	Q4W: For those that care - What do you think of Bumble allowing men to send the first message? yeah he is. Women overvalue themselves so much that whenever they meet a guy who meets their over inflated standards they basically break all the rules for him becuase there afraid there never gonna find another guy at his calibre.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/24 03:35 PM
1	Q4W: For those that care - What do you think of Bumble allowing men to send the first message? I have no idea Idk why its so hard for you to admit that women just aren't confident enough to make the first move.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:27 PM
2	Q4W: For those that care - What do you think of Bumble allowing men to send the first message? Women aren't opting out, if chad comes along hes still getting to fuck. Women are just coping becuase they have priced themselves out of the market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:26 PM
4	Q4W: For those that care - What do you think of Bumble allowing men to send the first message? enough of the cope this isnt about danger there have been plenty of attractive charismatic serial killers and its not hard to catfish. The reason is hypergamy, women only swipe and talk to the most attractive guy who pays attention to them, then when he doesnt commit they cant take the ego hit of trying someone who looks matches. This then algorithmically deranks avg Andy further feeding into women only seeing chad on her app, and the cycle just goes around and around from there until she gets b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:24 PM
3	Q4W: For those that care - What do you think of Bumble allowing men to send the first message? Its becuase it is and RP is right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:19 PM
1	Men. In the following either or scenarios, which man would you advise a woman to choose? id tell the woman to take the guy who would treat her better every time but the issue is she would have to do some personal growth first.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:12 PM
4	Men. In the following either or scenarios, which man would you advise a woman to choose? are relationships exclusively about what you can extract from other people to you? Its not that they think about this exclusively its just that a lot of women are so insecure they prioritise a man that is impressive, and therefore reflects positively on them, over a connection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:11 PM
0	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women I think there is a much higher amount of women who hate men becuase the idea that men have systemically oppressed women more widely accepted then the idea that lead to men hating women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 07:35 PM
2	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue Thats the definition of bad faith becuase you dont believe this at all, you cannot use parts of these ideas in a void and not the whole praxeology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/24 12:35 AM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue I don’t think that’s the main problem, some people are just not “dating material”. People dont want to date them. But the reason this happens is largely not becuase the quality of men has massively decreased but that becuase they cant out earn women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 10:36 PM
3	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue there are, facial symmetry, weight, muscle mass, hair length etc. All these things are measurable and you can find objective numbers for what is optimal. And honestly it shouldn't be that people have to prove this to you but the other way round as humans dont live like hyper solitary genetically distinct beings so the default assumption should be that there is a general consensus even if the particulars of what people like are more unique.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 10:32 PM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue Attractiveness actually has a lot of objective metrics	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 10:28 PM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue Its not becuase its reasonable for someone who is average to expect to be able to have a reasonable chance at attracting average partner. Entitlement would be expecting something or being annoyed that you aren't getting something that is unreasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 10:27 PM
1	Has Open AI’s GPT-4o reached the "Her" moment? What does this mean for the online female attention economy? you actually dont most llms find it easier to understand pseudocode then to understand a descriptive paragraphs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 08:10 PM
6	Has Open AI’s GPT-4o reached the "Her" moment? What does this mean for the online female attention economy? No they definitely will you are just stuck in todays mindset. Sure guys you know and grew up with might not choose the AI, but think about gen alpha and young genz. There brains are already fried from tiktok, thier irl social spaces will be even fewer then today and they will hit puberty when this stuff is really popping of. They wont have any hang ups about AI, they will just see all the work they have to do to get a real woman and see the ai that requires nothing from them, and they will choos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 08:07 PM
1	Has Open AI’s GPT-4o reached the "Her" moment? What does this mean for the online female attention economy? It probably wont do damage to the porn industry, it will just massively devalue female model earnings. I say this becuase the large porn companies actually own a lot of the largest sites where people distribute pirated porn. So if im developing an ai gf, i would probably go to these porn companies and tell them to just straight up give me vc money, invest or buy me out instead of trying to compete. That way you can get a metric shit on of hq videos that you could use to train ur system on, and t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:58 PM
0	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. it is true becuase hypergamy is real	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 07:34 PM
0	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. its not always a hard 80/20, but the principle of a minority of men having sex with a majority of women is true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 07:29 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. All decisions are based on emotions and feelings because we (as humans) can never know ‘truth’. That's only true if you are a materialist. We can gather information, but all decisions are “our best guess“ based on “how we feel” about the information that was presented to us. What ur describing here is empirical truth not feelings. Feelings are simply "he made me mad therefore he's in the wrong". Empirical truth is "i looked at the evidence and it proves that its more likely he was wrong then not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 07:27 PM
1	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. yawn Educate yourself. Optimal emotional processing actually enhances our ability to navigate "reality." In a stock investment simulation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2361392/ "In a stock investment simulation" Yeah this doesnt count for shit stocks go up and down for all kinds of unpredictable reasons. So yeah - the actual SCIENTIFIC research is quite clear...our internal emotional experiences are vital to good decision-making in ALL areas of our lives, not just interpersonal.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 07:24 PM
5	Many women don't realize that emotions are not reality. I’m extremely logical but also neurotypical, let’s just say if I told you the truth about myself someone here would say I’m lying on the internet for clout. Thats becuase we are on the internet and no one has anyway to verify what you say is truth, also people lie about themselves all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 07:16 PM
4	A Question for men. What are the red flags in a relationship that would prevent you from ever proposing marriage. You can never know the real number. What you do is first you take an appreciation of the woman: habits, friends, social media etc. Then you assume that the most amount of guys she reasonably should have slept with is her n count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 08:41 PM
5	It has never been easier to approach women Clarify your idea. Are you saying that the approach doesnt matter ? She may see you getting rejected by another girl seconds ago, it wont change anything ? That's as stupid as it gets so im giving you an opportunity to clarify If you dont know what im saying and ur asking a question dont make an assumption, goddamn u BP guys are so quick to white knight even hypothetical women. The point is about 80% of your success or failure is determined by how you look, so the rest of the shit doesnt really …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 08:37 PM
4	A Question for men. What are the red flags in a relationship that would prevent you from ever proposing marriage. He didnt waste any of her time, Its a woman job to convince a man she is worth marrying. So if he didn't want to escalate, its on her for not recognising that she needed to prove herself and for not improving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 08:32 PM
3	Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractive its more then just that they dont value it, its that the social cost to being a delusional and dishonest women is basically nothing and the benefits are really high.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 04:47 PM
5	It has never been easier to approach women Those are not genuine and respectful approaches Even "genuine and respectful approaches" do not result in success becuase the amount of creeps approaching women hardens them to instantly and harshly reject any guy approaching they dont like the look of right away. Conversely since they prereject so many guys, theres no point bothering to be "respectful or genuine" since if u pass that inital filtering theres so few guys that the leverage imbalance means your are laughing to the bank.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 04:12 PM
7	It has never been easier to approach women Like the 90s maybe but outside of that no. Historically the avg person would get married to someone they had known for years and grown up with or the where betrothed, even most of contemporary history most dating was done via pre established social groups. This is why the olinification of socialising has been so detrimental to romantic relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 04:08 PM
55	A Question for men. What are the red flags in a relationship that would prevent you from ever proposing marriage. large body count not being able to accept that shes wrong having an issue with a prenup having an issue with dna testing for kids	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 04:03 PM
3	Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractive Becuase one coherent group is highly unlikely to be characterised by two opposing aspects. So unless you have hard evidence to prove what your saying, you must pick one group as characteristic of fnf fans for ur statement to even begin to make sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 04:01 PM
9	Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractive They do this this becuase there really isn't much of a hard social benefit for a woman to hold to her word or a social cost to people to seeing her as dishonourable. Therefore when a woman makes a convenient and appeals to her denial being plausible you must reject it and make her prover her own denial is more likely true then not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 03:53 PM
1	Men, why won't you commit? hes not wasting his time, becuase men have times when they want to marry and times when they dont, so if hes in a stage where he doesnt want to marry theres not point leaving the girl whos only GF tier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 06:09 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Not really im pretty sure its quite strongly proven that men have more self confidence on avg, lower neurosis and better self image. Moreover just being an adult human and looking at society we can tell this is the case. Just look at things like the body+ movement, that is entirely a movement created by and for women centred around female insecurity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 06:05 PM
-1	Do Some Men Prefer Women with Low Self-Esteem? Why? And just speaking anecdotally, I have very rarely seen a woman with a balanced approach to how they conceive themselves. Either they feel like they are a god-in the flesh or think they are completely worthless. This is really it, its massive ego or insecure and in that choice what person, let alone what man, would pick the massive ego.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 03:20 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Nah its worse with women becuase the avg woman is far more insecure then the avg man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 01:10 AM
4	Women are as likely, or more likely, to be physically aggressive in relationships compared to men That's not true at all women are more likely to use weapons, and more likely to be more violent and do things like punch and kick becuase they are much smaller. Men are more likely to use less force then they are capable of becuase the costs are so much higher.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 07:16 PM
2	Dating would be a lot easier if men would NOT settle for women they aren't attracted too problem is most men would never approach most women at all, thisi s why the up coming robo GF is going to be so impactful. Secondly on the short term side the reality is a lot of girls do not want honesty at all becuase then it forces them to confront that they are actually "that type of girl" so they would rather you do a song and dance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 02:38 AM
10	How do you think this "gender war" is going to end? Men are more likely to fatally harm children and be the instigators of extreme and genuine abuse. This is not true women make up the majority of child homicide perpetrators	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 01:52 AM
3	Why its important for men to have female friends Completely right with no.2 most women's tendency for emotional support will feel patronising and empty to the avg man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 07:19 PM
2	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing Whats so funny about women is you will be the first to bring up some random anomaly as if it disproves a rule that applies to thousands of people, but then in turn you all internalise any critique of women personally as if you literally all are the same. There is no logic there lol just child like emotionalism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 03:06 AM
-4	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing Who do you think gives men orgasms lol? Do you think most women do anything besides just being a visual aid and a warm pussy to make a guy cum. You need men becuase you are all sexually passive, this is why lesbians have 0 sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:37 AM
2	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing lol you are so tilted i guess we know whos the starfish	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:35 AM
-2	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing Yeah its just responsibility, if women took ownership then they would probably have more orgasms but they want to be passive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:16 AM
3	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing You clearly dont have sex. go look up missionary or doggy style and tell me how you think the biomechanics work out to enable women to do as much physical labour in those positions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:12 AM
0	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing What I said is the majority, which is why when women are more active in bed they injure men at massively higher rates due to inexperience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:06 AM
2	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing Why am I not surprised ur trying to dodge accountability. The number 1 cause of penile injury is from women being active in sex. If women where actually being active in sex in general they wouldn't be so prone to injure the men the are having sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 02:05 AM
-11	CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doing Its down to responsiblity and effort. Women put like 10% of the total effort into sex, and place the responsibly of them getting off entirely on the man they are having sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 11:06 PM
1	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? Well its not going to happen becuase women are notoriously bad when it comes to having that kind of power over a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 03:51 AM
2	How many men who feel like women reject “nice guys” would proudly treat their girlfriends and wives like princesses and simp for them? initially I think most guys in todays age would for sure. But thank god women show men quickly that that shit doesnt work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 03:48 AM
-2	If a large amount of "dating age" males and females were gender-swapped (including brains and sexual orientation) for a year, how would they do and what would they learn? she specifically said living as a man was one of her worst experiences	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 01:22 AM
-2	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment You have got to do a lot of wildly inexcusable shit to make a simple approach sexual harassment. Because most forms of talking to someone without or against their consent would just be called harassment. No you just need to meet the wrong person on the wrong day. Literally any form of communication or contact you have with a person that they interpret as sexual and they didn't like for whatever reason is sexual harassment. For example if a man wore a green shirt to work and for some reason a wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 06:33 PM
1	A great article about the opportunity cost between staying single and settling down in the modern world Its not that they dont need men for their economic needs, thats a feminist psyop, women have never wanted men becuase they need them economically. You can see this becuase when we look at working class and poor women where marriage would mean take home going from 40k to 80k which is a massive change in life quality, they lower rates of marriage then educated women(which might be a change of 80>160 which is a lower QoL increase). The real truth is that women are attracted to a man who can overmat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 01:35 AM
5	A great article about the opportunity cost between staying single and settling down in the modern world I doubt they will get better. Artificial partners are on the verge of adoption by at least the sub5 men. Once that happens a spiral effect will occur where the benefit of being single will increases > less men approaching women > lower success in approaching > less men approaching women ... and so on until we hit where japan is. Women ofc can change this by approaching or evolving their expectations of men and themselves within a relationship. But these things will never happen as women will alw…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 11:50 PM
1	Who gets more hate: the low maintenance boyfriend? Or the low maintenance girlfriend? That's becuase a LM girl is going to be able to attract higher value men then she would otherwise. But if said LM girl went for a guy equivalent to herself she's probably not going to get cheated on becuase i wont be worth it for the guy. So the choices she makes are the reason she gets cheated on not being LM.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 11:25 PM
0	Who gets more hate: the low maintenance boyfriend? Or the low maintenance girlfriend? The woman logic of "words that might upset someone" = hate doesnt apply here, im a man talking about other men. So unless what i say is explicitly attacking somone its not hate. What I said is just a fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 07:40 PM
2	Who gets more hate: the low maintenance boyfriend? Or the low maintenance girlfriend? That's because women project what they do onto men. Men are not going to cheat on a woman just for being LM, if anything it will reduce her chances of being cheated on. Whereas women will cheat on a LM guy becuase unlike men women need to look up to their partner to a high degree, and no one respects anyone that much that lets them walk all over them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 07:37 PM
-2	Who gets more hate: the low maintenance boyfriend? Or the low maintenance girlfriend? Im not implying anything im saying that a low maintenance woman is going to receive more hate. This is becuase women engage in collective bargaining where they perpetuate certain lies or do certain behaviours to present all women as being of a certain standard that enables them to be the worst possible partner while still being attractive. So the LM woman will get hate becuase she's crossing the picket line so to speak by sacrificing being stuck up which is something other women feel they can ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 09:55 PM
5	Who gets more hate: the low maintenance boyfriend? Or the low maintenance girlfriend? its the low maintence GF becuase women hate seeing other women undercut them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 05:57 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Lmao half the terrorists who successfully committed attacks in western countries where on watch lists. Also look at haiti right now gangs have taken over the country, in africa a bunch of the francaphone countries have couped their governments away. I think the only reason we dont see mass unrest right now in the western world is videogames, porn and high oestrogen in the water supply becuase of birth control. Infact id argue the reason the british government was so deeply concerned about people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 08:18 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? were It's *were It is "in this thread" rather than "in this thread," as ITT indicates. Furthermore, contractions such as "it's" or "ITT" are inappropriate for official writing. You should also include a preamble stating that you are correcting spelling errors, followed by a colon, and bullet points. Finally, "Hmm" is inappropriate for official writing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 07:14 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Thats becuase a lot of women aren't mature enough to accept that they squandered the freedoms they where given. Its like how if you let a 7 year old decide what they eat for their meals becuase they where being too fussy, do you really think after eating nothing but ice-cream for 2 week there going to own up to all the issues they are having with that kind of diet. Also a lot of women have bought into the feminist psyop that women where unwilling slaves with 0 benefits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:37 PM
–	Nostalgia or was it simply better? its not a threat its a statement of fact. Women just are not capable of enforcing their will with mass violence to the extend needed to get thier way in society when everyone else disagrees with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:29 PM
0	Nostalgia or was it simply better? Women's happiness is irrelevant, things only change when enough men dont like something or when the rich and powerful dont like something. The victories of feminism where only possible becuase the government and corporations wanted more tax money and more efficiency for the same amount of money. The hard pill for you to swallow is that If there was no money in getting women to work, women would still be in the home because as the end of the day women dont have the fortitude to really go out thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 03:27 PM
2	Nostalgia or was it simply better? It was better, most guys never had any shot at attracting the avg woman off purely upfront displays alone, like what you get on dating apps, he always relied on the social proof of being known as a respectable guy within the social circles he shared with the women he courted. Also becuase social circles where larger women's hypergamy was necessarily kept in check by each other becuase women would give untold amounts of shit to other women that are on chads roster out of jealousy. Whereas now gir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 03:23 PM
0	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? That would be like saying if men all became blind and then stopped liking women as much it means men dont like women. This is not true. The tangible aspects of humans are just as much apart of them as the tangible ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 07:58 PM
1	What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic? Its not that women dont like men that much, its that finances was a massive part of their attraction. And most men do not have enough money to over match the avg woman's salary. This is also why degree holders have higher rates of marriage, its becuase despite women going to university more men still make up the majority of students in high earning degree courses, and therefore they can still earn enough to over match their female counter parts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 07:32 PM
0	If the woman you meet is a virgin, what makes you think she’s going to stop being a virgin for you when she hasn’t done so for men she’s dated in the past? Id offer commitment, which would be special becuase most guys she either doesnt want or they wont commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/24 08:57 PM
2	What's with the huge popularity of polyamory and open relationships at the moment? Thats not cheating as chad has never told any of the girls that he is monogamous to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 04:36 PM
2	What's with the huge popularity of polyamory and open relationships at the moment? actually i think in most cases its not. In most cases its one guy having multiple situationships, where the girls all girls dont fuck or entertain other men becuase a. chad is superior to whatever else they can find and b. they think they will eventually end up in a committed relationship with chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 04:30 PM
1	What's with the huge popularity of polyamory and open relationships at the moment? many women are in them without knowing	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 03:04 PM
0	When maneaters and womanizers come across one another what usually happens? no the womaniser knows what his time is worth, and so he just will never approach a type of woman like that and she will be blissfully unaware.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 04:47 AM
–	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? its most women and ironically those women the most afraid of men are the most likely to be in support of firearms restrictions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 11:46 PM
0	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? why only pepper spray? ? If a guy is on drugs that wont stop him. Why not just buy a gun?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 07:34 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? False dichotomy, the overwhelming majority of guns used in crime are obtained illegally. So its actually just a scenario where only he has a gun and where both of you have a gun. But even if I where to humour you. In that first instance if he wants to rape you, you can do nothing becuase even unarmed you have no chance of winning. Whereas in the 2nd instance you actually have a chance becuase all though he has a gun he's not bullet proof, so if you can shoot him first you can save yourself. Also…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:24 PM
-3	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? This mentality is ridiculous becuase that's true of literally any criminal. You aren't ever going to be able to predict who will be a criminal at first glance, the point was you are supposed to be able to defend when the criminal does identify themselves aswell as minimising your exposure to potential threats. But women time and time again vote for policy that makes society more dangerous and vote away citizens ability to defend themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 02:19 PM
0	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? irrational fear	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 02:13 PM
3	As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts? no it isnt becuase then you literally have to just accept the first attractive woman that fits that niece that passes your way becuase chances are you will not find another one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 02:03 PM
1	As a man your focus should be to how to find the specific type of women whom is attracted to you, and not improve yourself to appeal to the broad majority of women - Thoughts? this is just a loosing strategy authenticity matters so much less then appeal, moreover who you are is not just who you become becuase of your default tendencies. Humans can and do authentically change and grow, so improvement does not mean in authenticity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 02:01 PM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. she doesnt know what she is talking abotu at all, she has admitted that she has no evidence for her position and she just believes this shit becuase she wants to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 10:33 PM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Myron is a failed personal trainer that figured out how to sell Redpill instead. And he’s done as well as actually helping dudes get laid as he has get fit. But enough men pay in for him to hire tires trap women to yell at because they can live vicariously thru him. He knows it the women know it. They make money and the crowd gets worked up like a pro wrestling arena And that’s all it is. Again you are just making shit up, past this comment im just going to call you out for lying instead of expl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 08:22 PM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. no as in they will never say anything redpill, they will sell you the dream and give you all the bp talking points to fuck and then dip Its only the morons that arent really listening and that you would never be interested in regardless who will actually let you know they are rp. the true RP man who isnt a content creator is a mostly just a gray man	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 08:15 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Address the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about and stop trying to dodge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 08:12 PM
2	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Bruh, people are literally doing podcast for free or without any monetary gains all the time. because they just want to talk about something they care about And? If you didnt pay doctors some of them would do it for free but most wouldnt. Also those people that are doing it for free either A. are some kid whos having the bank of mom and dad bank roll them or B. they are doing it really sporadically and not invested. The fnf studio is built in the main hosts house, its not a podcasting studio tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 08:01 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. becuase he hates them. There is so much animosity between them, that the producer crashed one of their shows to fight myron(the main host), and myron pulled out his gun and told the guy if he stepped foot inside he would kill him. Anything said by a former employee that disgruntled is invalid. So im proven right for sure false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:53 PM
-1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Why would they be transparent about hiring women? Im not saying they would be, but they have had like 5k something women on the show over 3 years, if they where paying them we should be seeing a couple hundred examples of women having concrete proof they where hired to come on. But we dont we see the odd salty woman make quickly debunked claims. The reality is most of these women are just normal women that want to come on the show, becuase most women love attention and they love talking about da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:47 PM
2	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Find one “pill-caster” willing to do it for free. That's a false dichotomy most people wouldn't do most things they actually want to do if they weren't getting paid because its simply a fact of reality for most humans that you need to take care of yourself financially. Myron cried (like an alpha!) when YouTube demonetized his channel This is why BP critique of RP is so worthless, you are all "RP is sexist and wrong" until you can use those same arguments and principles against an RPer, and there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:40 PM
3	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. No, most women or at least enough women will accept anything from a guy if hes attractive, and infact most women will conform to their mans ideology if they have actual desire for him. But regardless the point of the podcast is not to improve the dating success of the podcasters, its for the viewers benefit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:35 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. Well FNFs old producers admitted they paid girls. Yeah this is for sure false	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:32 PM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. This is wrong. Women go on their shows bc RP content is massively popular with men regardless of whether they are a fan of that RP content creator or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:30 PM
-1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. that is extreme cope lmao, if they where paid there would be tons of stories coming out from girls who had been paid or some evidence of a casting agency. Instead all there is the odd salty woman who makes an accusation but has nothing concrete to actually back it up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:27 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. not at all bc a guy who is actually following RP will just never tell you or more likely be able to tell what you are before you met and never even deal with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:24 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. no it heavily depends who you are talking about like most things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:18 PM
-2	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. The podcasts are there to highlight female nature, you just dont like it because they pull the curtain back an show modern women for what they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:17 PM
1	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. it depends, whatever podcast for sure is a grifter as they seem to overly highlight OF girls becuase thier podcast is purely clip farming. Fnf and pearl do not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:15 PM
0	manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this. They are about education not attraction	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 07:14 PM
-3	Without the influence of modern culture, men would be more successful with women. its not insane its just explaining why the naturalistic fallacy is wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:29 PM
-9	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? yep and only like 3% of women are marriageable quality	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 07:24 PM
1	Men, who here has significantly increased their core household work share and actually received significantly more sex as a result of doing so? In your experience, does it work? Men should only do more chores if women are willing to get rid of the random crap they fill houses with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 02:49 AM
1	Men, who here has significantly increased their core household work share and actually received significantly more sex as a result of doing so? In your experience, does it work? How hard is it to pick up after yourself? As hard as it is to ignore small amounts of mess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 02:43 AM
0	Men, who here has significantly increased their core household work share and actually received significantly more sex as a result of doing so? In your experience, does it work? Which is why women need to negotiate for this stuff, but they wont becuase that will probably result in concessions	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 02:43 AM
1	Which is worse - Hiding a secret bank account "just in case" or requiring a prenup? To create a substantial nest egg you must siphon off a decent amount per month and so that is necessarily going to unduly burden your partner finacially. Moreover where a prenup is just as much about setting the terms of how the marriage will exist as it is insurance for its failure, hiding money is exclusively just planning for a divorce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 11:06 PM
2	Which is worse - Hiding a secret bank account "just in case" or requiring a prenup? ofc it is	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 11:00 PM
2	Which is worse - Hiding a secret bank account "just in case" or requiring a prenup? hiding money is worse lmao you are literally lying to your spouse and putting extra financial burden on them, whereas the other option is the person being up front and honest about wanting to have some security.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 10:58 PM
1	Which is worse - Hiding a secret bank account "just in case" or requiring a prenup? having serpeate savings is not the same as having a secret bank account.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 10:56 PM
1	Why do so many gay men get along with straight women? Becuase of overt homophobia from straight men, which is pretty sad tbh as getting to know a few as an adult has shown me that even tho a lot are kind of feminine in mannerisms, they often have pretty typically masculine interests. It must suck growing up and being into video games but your close friends only care about makeup. Also I say "overtly" for a reason as most of these women they make friends with are just covertly homophobic where they will just not see the guy as their cookie pet gay i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 03:57 PM
1	Would you say dating is easier as a straight girl or guy, or easier as a gay guy or girl? if its a monogamous relationship sure but im sure it would be much easier for them to have long term open relationships	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 05:15 PM
3	Would you say dating is easier as a straight girl or guy, or easier as a gay guy or girl? gay guys get sex the easiest for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/24 05:33 PM
1	Would you say dating is easier as a straight girl or guy, or easier as a gay guy or girl? casual sex is easiest to get if you are a gay guy and committed relationships are easiest for gay women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/24 05:32 PM
1	A thought experiment for men I’ve had this happen before….it sucks….its hard admitting to our own selves how shallow we are. Its not shallow we are human beings not some type of robot. We are intrinsically both higher intellectual and base biological beings. Therefore human love must necessarily be both an intellectual and a biological. Denigrating the sexual attraction side of love is denigrating half of what love is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 02:29 AM
1	Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorces not really becuase all the boomer moms worked part time and could quit any time childcare got too much	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/24 12:09 AM
4	Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorces I think many men just put so much emphasis on their job (even if it's just a mediocre job) that they don't want to do anything outside of that. Firstly to this day male breadwinner marriages out number equal and female breadwinner ones combined with the median breakdown of earnings in these marriages being $96k for the husband and $30k for the wife. So its actually entirely reasonable for most men to be unwilling to do more then 1/4 of the house work when there wives are earning 1/4 of the famil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/24 12:05 AM
1	What is wrong with being nice to have sex? Its not becuase you actually get all the tangible benefits of a friendship if someone was being your friend to have sex so there is an equal exchange. When it comes to the dinner the guy gives everything the girl wants, the woman gives nothing the guy wants. Moreover most women find it rude and creepy for a man to directly proposition them for sex, whereas most men actually expect or at least want a woman to be honest with them if they are not interested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/24 02:22 PM
1	What is wrong with being nice to have sex? You are becuase the original argument you are defending is that its ok for women to lie by omission by going on dates with men they have no romantic feelings toward but pretend they do for a free dinner. Therefore your non sequitur point discussing explanations is a pivot to a topic you think you can better defend. So ill state the point again, it is not ok to lie by omission. If a woman has no romantic feelings for a guy and he askes her out on a date its her moral responsibility to be honest a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 10:55 PM
1	What is wrong with being nice to have sex? Stop trying to pivot, its absolutely wrong to lie by omission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 03:30 PM
1	What is wrong with being nice to have sex? she didnt want the friendship she wanted the attention and free dinners, which she got.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 01:39 AM
1	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? this is a straw man, my argument was about likelihood to marry not likelihood to have a successful marriage. And the stats show women are the least likely to want to get married to the men they actually economically need more. Moreover its pretty well established that when asked most women find a mans earning highly important. So again its simply a fact women are naturally all gold diggers and we are just seeing what happens when they no longer need to dig.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/24 02:29 AM
-1	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? ill do you one better in 1639 the first printing press in the US was owned by a woman https://www.frederickbookarts.org/post/history-of-us-women-in-printing#:\~:text=Elizabeth%20Glover%20was%20the%20first,the%20first%20in%20the%20colonies. Women could allways own thier own stuff, feminism has psyoped a whole generation into thinking it gave women the right to hold capital.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 09:18 PM
-2	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? This is not true its not that men aren't use to it, its women who are not use to it. If it where men who arent use to it we would see higher rates of marriages and relationships in income brackets where women still need men aka working class people since working class women still need men(and vice versa) to support a family or to upgrade thier tax bracket. However we dont, we see higher rates of successful marriage where both partners earn enough on their own(so the woman doesnt need the man) bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 09:11 PM
-3	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? That's not true women where always able to control their own capital they, they just did not when they got married becuase the husband took over responsibility for all her debts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 08:54 PM
1	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. its not worth it and if it where more guys would do it. As an avg guy being a traditionally masculine man will get you taken adv of, falsely accused, probably divorced and labelled a misogynist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/24 02:01 AM
1	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. yeah i know which is why most guys do not try to be a man at all they just slump to living a life of neoteny. But again they do this becuase being a man while being avg is just not worth it now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 11:08 PM
-2	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. I think the person only knows lefty male feminist men, not the avg man.,	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 03:22 PM
2	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. no they simply dont have the options to be picky its not that they assume she will change, its women that date men and assume they can change them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 03:20 PM
-2	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. Well thats never going to happen becuase women punish honesty for 90% of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 03:18 PM
-1	The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life. Ofc but thats becuase we have made it difficult and removed most of the benefits from being just an avg man. Now its really only worth being a man if you can be a great man, and even that is arguable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 03:16 PM
2	When will very authentic looking and affordable sex bots become a norm? I think it will be the opposite tbh. If andy can get sex from the robot that means he will likely only pay attention to women who actually put in the effort to approach and impress him. So I see a world in which the men who are married are married to women who are actively trying to compete with the sex doll.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 05:41 AM
2	When will very authentic looking and affordable sex bots become a norm? but you are only talking about the benefits, so yeah all those things are nice, but if you contrast it with the amount of work a lot of guys have to do to get a pretty avg woman; now the sex doll makes much more sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 05:38 AM
1	When will very authentic looking and affordable sex bots become a norm? the point wont be to make men happier it will be to give men the ability to be more discerning with women since women wont hold a monopoly on sexual access	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 05:36 AM
1	Is the Red Pill something you would recommend to someone who wants to improve their dating experience? RP is not conservatism, progressivism Christianity islam etc its not an ideaology that seeks to change society or your life its a praxeology that has the purposes of allowing individual men to improve thier own standards. So its not that anyone is afraid of criticism, its incredibly easy to find out what rp is, its just that critique without suggested improvement isnt valid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 05:25 AM
1	What level does a man have to be in to have access to immediate sex? Its not a level its a relative distance. and it changes how high you are and how low she is. Like id say a guy who's a 7 can fuck a 5 immediately, but I dont think a 10 can fuck 8 immediately. But id say a relative distance of 2-3 overall.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:51 AM
1	Is it hypergamy or just inherent lower libido? Its hypergamy and the economy. A fundamental part of female attraction is a mans ability to over match her ability to provide for herself and family. 20-30 years ago men could out earn women and so that was a massive attractive feature for men, also we had social stigma for being a slut so when chad came to whipser in beckys ear, 1. her dad prevented him most of the time, but 2. she knew he was chatting shit becuase she knew he would marry stacy. Now we dont have the social pressure on attractiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:48 AM
-4	What advice should be given to kind traditional men who seek relationships do in this dating world? even if you dont want to fuck the girls date a bunch of different girls and get to the point where they would fuck you, becuase as a man you need to gain experience with women or you will end up like crowder marrying a girl who checks all the boxes and then ends up no fault divorcing you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:35 AM
–	Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted men But then advice should be to encourage them not be be weeded out not to tell those men things that will essentially ensure they never find romantic success or only find success with the worst options they can stand. So it is injustice becuase when giving advice to men women almost always give them advice that is detrimental to their own interest to benefit women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:32 AM
3	Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted men Women's advice to men almost universally tells men to approach the lowest hanging fruit and offer her the best deal in an effort to ensure that any given woman gets the best option at the expense of the mans interest entirely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:29 AM
0	Is there really an epidemic of women divorcing nice guys for no reason ? what do you think no fault divorce is	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 05:01 AM
-7	Is there really an epidemic of women divorcing nice guys for no reason ? Here is a list of the top reasons for divorce. its not an accurate list becuase it doesnt include no reason which is the most common, and is likely just a mask for the guy was too feminine in some way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 04:47 PM
1	How will online dating survive SORA? That's becuase women's standards have increased with thier income aswell as it simply being harder to increase ones income. Most men will not this is what you dont get as a man if ur not born attractive and charismatic you get nothing until you improve. And so if robo gf is more cost effective men will simply stop going through the whole process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 07:14 PM
1	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? OK and? The question is can dating apps be fixed not is any given fix likely to work. Talking about likely hood is a nonstarter becuase obviously these apps are incentivised not to fix the problem so there would be no discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 06:38 PM
1	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? they actually dont. Most women end up with men who richer then them, have more options romantically then them or they choose not to date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 06:32 PM
1	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? thats like asking why would a child not want to eat icecream every day. The objective is to improve dating apps for their intended purpose which is to create successful fulfilling relationships, not to give into immediate desires. Moreover 50% of marriages fail and 60% of young women today will never be married primarily becuase dating has moved so much onto these apps. So they are not fulfilling their intended purpose at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 06:17 PM
1	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? its not about women wanting to use this its about creating the best outcomes and traditional apps do not, they feed into womens hypergamy and funnel them into unsatisfying relationships where they are 3 of 8 on chads roster(knowingly or unknowingly).	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:36 PM
0	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? How does this improve the dating app experience for women? They would be better off using existing apps. That would result in a terribly skewed gender imbalance that would make the app miserable for men. It restricts their hypergamous tendencies of endlessly trading up or believing they have 5m options, which then lead to more satisfying relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:34 PM
2	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? Things like pensions wont work for younger people since they depend on working people paying in more then what older people take out. Way less tax money and actually more costs overall. Yes kids cost in tax money but only for 2 decades and decrease in cost over time, old people might start really needing government assistance at like 60 or 70 and not only will that need go on for 30-40 years, but it will also increase over time in cost to the tax payer. Moreover when the kid grows up they will b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:32 PM
3	Is it even possible to "fix" the issues around dating apps? well that doesnt mean its impossible it just means the dating apps have no incentive to fix them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:09 PM
1	How will online dating survive SORA? This is entirely cope. What do you think settling is lady? Its realising what you initially wanted cost too much investment and/or is too unlikely to occur for the return benefit it brings; therefore you choose to take your romantic options that aren't as beneficial but cost way less. Aka you are doing a cost benefit analysis and taking the option that is more cost effective. This is what young men will do with AI, they will see the benefit real women give is just too megure for the massive amou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:01 PM
2	How will online dating survive SORA? No its the opposite, it will be most. And it will be most becuase on a cost benefit ratio it will simply make more sense to use the AI. Men and women are the least attractive we have ever been to each other ever, which means the avg young man will has to put in a gargantuan effort into improving himself with 0 initial return for a long time before he sees any success with women. This in normal times isnt so bad becuase men have no optiosn but to improve so they will, however if these young men h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 04:03 AM
1	How will online dating survive SORA? google glass was completely different. Dont believe the ads google put out, I used it and it could only display monochrome whiteish text no images unless they where like ascii art Apple vision is full image display so its truly something different. Moreover google glass came out before dating apps and the heavy internetification of most of young people social lifes. Finally the trends we see in korea and japan are likely what will come to the west since the issues in thier soceity are caused by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 07:40 PM
1	How will online dating survive SORA? The whole reason AI gfs are coming is becuase thats not going to happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 07:35 PM
–	Why don't more struggling men join conservative religions? Also most churches totally wouldn't mind if you where just upfront and admitted that you where an atheist but wanted to join becuase you like the culture as they would see you as a potential person to convert to their faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:54 PM
–	Why don't more struggling men join conservative religions? becuase unless you go amish or join some sort of secluded cult you arent getting bang for your buck if women is all you care about as at the end of the day these conservative women are still in a non conservative greater society and so at any point if they want to they can dip into the priviledges of modern women. Just look at steven crowder for example the guy was the total conservative provider guy who found a conservative woman and she left him via no fault divorce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:49 PM
–	Has Manosphere ideology been a net positive, or net negative? were not going to know how it affects things really and truly for another 5-10 years as most of the bulk of the viewers are newer RP guys who are in there late teens early 20s	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:20 AM
-5	What is wrong with being nice to have sex? Everything becuase the dinner is not what the man wanted that was the payment for what he really wants, whereas the nice guy gives the girl everything she wants out a friendship and then asks after at some point to escalate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:16 AM
3	Q4M: Ever gotten the ick from a woman being too into you? no	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:55 PM
0	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances but you have also never ben a man so how would you know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:54 PM
2	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances This. Especially for women, who are more attracted to narratives rather than the actual man. This is true but its not worth acting like it is. In this day and age the amount women will require you to do in order to successfully woo her over to liking you is simply not worth the effort. Moreover you cannot get women without self value and in most cases the mindset to where this amount of effort makes sense is one where you dont value yourself or your time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:52 PM
1	Is redpill just embracing what feminist say about men? It "enforced monogamy" by making women artificially dependent on men to, you know, not become homeless and die. Naturalistic fallacy. Just becuase something is not natural does not mean its bad. Socially enforced monogamy is probably the greatest thing to benefit humanity. Moreover its not even mostly artificial, it was simply a fact of reality that women had to be reliant on men becuase they cannot defend their own resources or maintain their own liberties. Once we eliminated--or significantly …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:47 PM
2	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you You made the claim most avg people are together, which directly means 51% of both men and women must be in monogamous relationships. So i disproved that with the fact that most men are either having casual sex or sexless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:25 PM
2	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you No you are trying to pivot your argument into someithing that bluepill is not becuase you realise that the bluepill postion is not defensible. Bluepill oestibly argues that an avg guy putting in an avg amount of work to himself can find another avg woman(looksmatching) as long as hes a good guy and is authentic to himself. Now you are trying to morph the position into saying that avg man should accept only weird looking women. becuase you know the avg guy cant actually attain the avg woman anymo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 08:20 PM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you No by definition they are average becuase they are the norm. Infact in terms of the things women a say they want like emotional intelligence, openness, communication etc they ought to be more attractive to women. But the reason why you dont think avg men are averagely attractive is becuase of things women are actually attracted to like money. Most marriages are male breadwinner marriages, so when the avg man cannot be a breadwinner or earn significantly more then his female counter part women st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 10:15 PM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you This is so dishonest your original claim was that an avg man should not expect to find a woman he finds attractive not that an avg man should make do with a woman that isn't "conventionally attractive". Moreover even this is an admission that BP lied becuase the inference was always that you would get conventionally attractive women, as why should a conventionally but averagely attractive man only be able to date unconventional women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 10:08 PM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you No they aren't most young people are sexless or engaging in casual sex with multiple partners. The amount that are in relationships is comparatively the minority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 09:50 PM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you most people alive today dated and married in a social environment very different to our own	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 09:47 PM
8	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you No it doesnt, the impression is allways that being yourself will get you a woman you find attractive. So if you are saying actually BP isnt that, then that is by definition a lie becuase no man would subscribe to this idea if it would result in a woman who he found unattractive. Moreover that cannot be a success becuase sexual attraction is an necessary part of male romantic love, so any relationship whereby that isn't present is doomed in most cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 08:24 PM
7	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you You guys are the first to say that looks and money are massive determining factors in all other aspects of your life like career success, health, emotional wellbeing etc. But the moment it comes to dating you magically turn into a 90s republican and say "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, society is ok its your fault you dont have success in dating". Money 100% will determine your success romantically, and the fact that the avg guy cant maintain that 10% earnings gap over the avg woman( whic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 08:20 PM
9	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you Red pill claims women share high value men. They don't actually show anything to back that up. 60% of young men are single but only 30% of young women, so women are being shared https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 08:09 PM
31	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you If you accept that an avg guy cant get an avg girl, then how did BP not lie. The entire argument from BP is that an avg guy can just be himself and find success in dating, attracting only women you consider less attractive then you is not success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 08:06 PM
2	Why should men believe you? Where are the bluepill success stories? Exception fallacy	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 07:46 PM
11	Why should men believe you? Where are the bluepill success stories? In mainstream society chad can fuck tons of girls and avg andy gets cheated on, passed over and ignored.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 05:29 AM
1	Is redpill just embracing what feminist say about men? becuase society enforced monogamy which it does not anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 04:44 AM
-3	Is redpill just embracing what feminist say about men? They have not become misogynistic becuase the way redpill speaks about women is not spoken with hate, its just that you cant accept the ugly truth of what women are without hating them for it so you assume that red pill must aswell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 04:43 AM
0	Is redpill just embracing what feminist say about men? Redpill BELIEVES its fighting feminism but it’s literally the tails on the same coin. They behave exactly the same way. They do exactly the same things they say they hate feminists doing. Redpill does not believe its fighting feminism whatsoever. Redpill is about teaching men how to adapt to the world that feminism has created. You just dont like it becuase you dont like to see men beat women at the game that feminism created.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 04:40 AM
4	Is redpill just embracing what feminist say about men? if it works then it does	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 04:35 AM
3	Q4M: Do you ever want to feel sexy just for yourself? No its different becuase if had someone else dress you and do your hair and makeup you would still derive the same feeling, whereas if a guy just woke up and was shredded with no work then he wouldn't get anywhere near the same amount of value from seeing his progress.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 04:02 AM
2	Q4M: Do you ever want to feel sexy just for yourself? Nah im around a 6.5-7.5 depending on how much effort i put in, the thing is I dont really care about my aesthetics outside of how it enables me to get what I want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 03:57 AM
5	Q4M: Do you ever want to feel sexy just for yourself? that's different the aim of a gym selfie is to see progress toward an aesthetic aim or improved functionality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 06:40 PM
4	Q4M: Do you ever want to feel sexy just for yourself? yes but only in the context that it will allow me to have sex with women and/or improve how people view me professionally and socially. I have never and will never improve my appearance simply for the sake of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 06:37 PM
0	Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man? The problem with porn and OF is that it portrays this mind blowing sex with people who have perfect bodies... OF is an amateur porn site where most users are not making highly produced content and amature porn is one of the largest on most sites. One of the biggest draws of OF is the girl next door vibe its pornstars have where they look like women you might actually meet in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 03:19 AM
-4	Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man? He would sit at the dinner table with his wife and kid, then put headphones on and watch porn while he ate. wow thats wild I think generally, girls probably wouldn't want their partners watching porn if they could create the perfect partner. True but in that same respect those women need to in turn make some of the sex they have with their partners easier to as a replacement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 03:14 AM
–	Is there a dark side or negative side to being a "High Value Woman"? It doesnt work becuase women aren't playing for short term hook ups they want long term commitment, and once you get to know someone its not hard to tell their smv.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 01:49 AM
–	Is there a dark side or negative side to being a "High Value Woman"? No if hes high value and can get another woman of the same calibre hes going to know that a woman making you feel insecure or like you want to be controlling is the sign that she doesnt respect you and therefore the relationship is dead standing so he will leave or demand she change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 01:45 AM
–	The problem with dating advice today is that people are seen as trophies rather than investments it's fair if others ask: what did you do to them? or even what did you fail to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 01:33 AM
0	Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones? that's what literally every romance novel is about a completely undeserving woman getting a man who is far too good for her by doing absolutely nothing to attract him but exist	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 01:56 AM
0	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling it is avg, its just avg for as OP said " man who is above the age of 30 " aka a population of people that is mostly married	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:38 PM
1	Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones? im not im simply stating the clear facts that male media depicts men overcoming what is usually superhuman levels of adversity and then they get rewarded with relationship success. Whereas womens media says that the female equivalent of a socially inept gaming porn addicted loser deserves to have amazing success purely becuase reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:16 PM
1	Population collapse and dating No it cant becuase its not 1 to 1, if you say have $100 less tax revenue, you can only reduce spending by $30 becuase you still need the rest of the $70 to pay for costs not directly(or less directly) linked to population size like infrastructure maintenance for example. So it wont offset your country just collapses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:24 AM
0	Population collapse and dating no rejecting feminism would fix the issue	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:20 AM
1	Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones? why should a plain normal shy girl that doesnt put in any effort btw, if you read these novels the women never make any effort to advance the relationship or show interest, get a ultra mega chad?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:12 AM
1	Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones? We like to believe ANY woman is worth ALL the effort. And here's the problem with letting women write their own social narratives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:11 AM
3	Do unattractive women get hit up for sex more than attractive ones? And those nerds always face and conquer massive amounts of adversity, With most cases the protag only really getting the girl after they have prevented some sort of world ending calamity, if they ever do bc there are plenty where they dont get the girl they want. So actually if we are comparing media womens media tells them to massively over value themselves and mens tells them to massively devalue themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:09 AM
1	Women are just as redpilled as men. Yeah redpill is just teaching young men how to play a game women have been playing forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:02 AM
0	If paternity tests were to become mandatory, we would also need a database with every man's DNA to compare them to. but mandatory paternity test in concept are voluntary as they aren't forcing the farther to get a test but stopping the mother from preventing one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 03:21 AM
0	If paternity tests were to become mandatory, we would also need a database with every man's DNA to compare them to. If paternity tests were to become mandatory, we would also need a way to make sure there's a way to find the actual father. Not really, the aim is simply just to make sure the child is the child of the expected farther	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 03:20 AM
3	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ Yeah i dont believe anything from vox lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:36 AM
6	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ Countries far more "socially progressive" than the usa have half of less of the rate of single parenthood than usa.(while "tradcon" countries redpillers circlejrrk about have similar or higher rate of single parenthood than usa). Hell, my country is far more socially progressive and has less then half of usa's single parenthood rate Im pretty sure its only Scandinavia but the reason is those countries have actually followed through with full equality, in that there are no traditional expectation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:34 AM
2	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ because otherwise women have to pay for men's whims of not wearing a condom and then deciding he doesn't a kid It takes the woman agreeing aswell to have unprotected sex you're also ignoring the fact that obtaining an abortion isn't easy. i am guessing its because you are completely unaware of it. Most abortions are entirely for convenience	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:24 AM
3	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ It definitely is becuase none of the progressive principles that feminism claims to champion are ever applied to women. They are always used to restrict and disempower men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:19 AM
2	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ The obvious answer is that they are grifters just following what's popular at the moment, but why is this certain gift successful then? If you think calling people a grifter is ever an obvious answer, you have lost the plot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:16 AM
2	Red Pill analysis of relationship power dynamics between men and women inevitably leads to supporting ‘traditionalism’ or ‘patriarchy’ as it only thing that can theoretically limit or destroy ‘womens power.’ I dont it has tbh. Sneako not only was a massive youtuber before he went trad con and he really got his biggest wave of fame when he was more redpill then trad con. Tate aswell was his most viral not when he went full muslim but before when he was just manosphere/rp adjacent. Really I dont think any of the tradcon manosphere guys would be nearly as big as they are if they went straight tradcon, they allways gain the most following while red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 02:14 AM
4	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? But they aren't openly stating them are they? And infact if they make it obvious they are acting on those preferences they deeply shamed. Women on the other hand get to openly state their preferences and clearly act on them with impunity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 02:41 AM
2	Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships? Men like younger women becuase they are more attractive and less jaded. And its women prefer who men who earn more then them. So the claim of targeting partners who are easier to abuse is just cope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 01:09 AM
1	Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships? It has higher chances to turn abusive No they dont becuase what determines abuse has nothing to do age or money. Infact men who have less money then their wives are more likely to be abusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 12:34 AM
1	How true is the Madonna Whore complex for guys? also its largely a one way scenario where women can land in either initially but very very rarely does a woman ever transition from a whore into marriage quality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:49 PM