lds_thinker Archive

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2	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills The Church hasn't really "changed with the times" in most aspects. Only the most superficial components can be brought into compliance with modern political correctness. General Conference almost always has a couple of people that discuss the futility of political correctness. They frequently have speakers that lament the situation of the outside society. The President of the Church said not too long ago "[w]here once the standards of the Church and the standards of society were mostly compatibl…	/r/TheRedPill	03/08/15 06:45 AM
2	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills The doctrine gives you powerful leverage against the hamster. This is why Mormonism is so important from TRP perspective. No such lever really exists for most non-Mormons, since they are not taught to put anything above themselves. Mormons grow up being taught that the most important thing to do is please God, at all times, at all costs. If you marry a woman that is semi-intelligent, you can piece this out, show TRP through the scriptures, show it through the apostles, demonstrate that it's the …	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 09:24 PM
1	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Tl; dr: If you think mormonism instills redpill teachings into young men you are simply and absolutely insane. All of what you've written here describes how things SHOULD BE, not how things ARE. Look man, I sympathize with this, obviously. The state of a lot of the Church's membership is sad. Their failure to grasp the doctrine that's in front of their face and taught to them every week is sad. It's been painful for me to see it and live in a Church where there are so many so fundamentally ignor…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 09:08 PM
3	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Happy to follow things that make sense and lead to an objectively better life.	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:50 PM
0	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills What did you mean by "biological success"? The opportunity to have sex and reproduce in a long-term loving relationship that is positive and stable for the man, wife, and children. It seems most Mormon men have solid jobs. Is the church any good for networking? Yes, the Church is great for networking, but it is of course not guaranteed. The Church has employment resource centers and full-time employment missionaries throughout the world to help people find work. Most wards and stakes have a volu…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 11:05 AM
0	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills The kind of "crying" that is associated with spirituality is not feminine weeping, it's representative of an undercurrent of supernatural force, i.e., it's a symbol that something more powerful than "mere mortals" is going on. I'll agree that people see this genuinely happen once and then want to pretend like it happens all the time, and that makes it a powerful political tool when faked. I don't see how the rest of this really relates, sorry. I think you're grasping. Awareness of the existence …	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 10:49 AM
-2	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Mormonism, the supreme pedastalization of pussy This seems totally unsupported by the body of my post. Mormonism requires women to solemnly swear before God and angels that they will obey their husbands. This occurs in the temple and is taken very seriously. Women are taught that this is expected their entire lives, including after their marriage in adult religion classes. Men are taught that they are expected to lead their families their entire lives. See also the rest of my post. How is any of…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 10:37 AM
0	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Poligamy went away under government pressure, right? Yes, for some value of "away". Polygamy is still understood to be an ideal and eternal doctrine, so it didn't really go away per se, but the practice was temporarily ceased. It should also be clarified that the Church was fully prepared to go toe-to-toe with the US government on this issue and had begun establishing colonies in Mexico and Canada in case fleeing the US was necessary. It stopped not because of government pressure, but because Go…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 10:26 AM
5	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills There is no reason for a man's sole investment to be in his wife. Men have a direct connection to God through the Priesthood. Women do not. If the wife leaves, she drops that link and the man maintains it. Men can have as many wives as they can handle and women can only have one husband. If anything, the situation is the opposite of what you've described, and women should be concerned about losing everything if they drop the husband they're committed to. Some Mormon men are pussy-whipped because…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 10:11 AM
1	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills I really don't know what you mean. Could you elaborate? As much as male dominance is important, there is such a thing as abuse, and it's bad. Some TRPers take male dominance way overboard. Men are fallible too (but in Mormon marriages, the woman is still obliged to obey as long as the instruction is not directly contradictory to Church doctrine (she is also obliged to counsel and the husband is obliged to consider her counsel, and then obliged to make and responsible for the final decision that …	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 10:01 AM
-4	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Maybe you need a dictionary. Anti-Mormon is not an artificial slur, it's a description of some people whose mission in life is to oppose the Mormon Church. Anti is a prefix that means oppose. It's perhaps the most plain, neutral way to describe such a person. These people are real and they do have their successes in distorting the public perception, like the falsified report that claimed Mormons (that is, Utah) consumed more porn than everyone else and was debunked a couple of years later.	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 09:51 AM
1	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills However, what this results in is women who are unable to have an enjoyable sex life. Why? Because their entire life, it's constantly forced on you that sex is BAD. Don't know where you're getting this. If this is really the party line, can you find some quotes that say that all sex is BAD (hint: you can't, because it's not)? I was always taught that sex was sacred, serious, and very important, and that's why it shouldn't be had outside of marriage -- it would cheapen your marital experience to h…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 09:41 AM
15	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills tl;dr: Handjobs and Blowjobs won't damn you to hell Totally false. The Church still considers these fornication and still punishes people for it. There is no such loophole. This accusation is made against most religious people to try to make them seem like hypocrites and it's always complete BS as far as I can tell. I have never come across a religious tract that approves oral, anal, or manual intercourse but disapproves of vaginal intercourse. Usually it's the opposite: only vaginal intercourse…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 09:08 AM
5	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Well, the man is supposed to be a patriarch, but he often ends up as nothing more than a glorified Beta. I mean, hell, my aunt is a domineering Alpha-woman and her husband is an effeminate pushover, but he gets the pass because he has the priesthood. What can we say? The Church teaches men to be men. It begs men to be men. A lot of people still choose to ignore this and follow the contemporary culture and think they're OK because their temple recommend didn't magically disintegrate. Redpilling a…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:58 AM
5	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills "we must serve our slutty princesses (daughters) and always reject violence" I don't know what kind of religion you're reading but it's surely not Abrahamic. Abraham's God mourned when the men of Judah refused to take up their position as judges and presiding patriarchs in their homes and society. Abraham's God has promised to wipe out those who let women rule over them. Abraham's God led conquests and gave Israel their homeland. Abraham's God commands people to kill adulterers and doesn't toler…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:55 AM
-2	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills It is substantial. It's more than substantial, it's huge. I'm sorry you're bitter but you only need to look at the stats for Utah [that anti-Mormons haven't distorted] and you'll see your opinion is objectively wrong. Compared to the outside it's night and day. I have friends that converted to Mormonism solely because our family life is so obviously objectively superior to the divorce-ridden, "everyone is equal", "I don't love you anymore" BS the Gentiles have to deal with. Try to direct less bl…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:47 AM
2	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Integration with the outside happened. JS and especially BY had the benefit of distance. An ideal has been set and the Church's doctrine established. Mormons should look to that and pattern their lives after it.	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:46 AM
-4	Being a boy raised in a Mormon family is like swallowing a goddamn shipping container full of bluepills Buddy, this is a really immature perspective. A little about me: I'm a lifelong Mormon. I'm a scholar of Mormonism. I'm in a successful relationship that is clearly delineated with myself as alpha and my wife as the submissive party, as Mormonism undeniably demands. I have sex every day and have as long as I've been married (excepting obvious waiting periods post-child-birth). I have several kids and they are awesome. I'm in a great job and make more than 200k/yr by myself (wife doesn't work). I…	/r/TheRedPill	02/08/15 08:27 AM