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Fundamentalsleafhog/r/seduction13/08/21 04:21 AM
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23

Yep. The situation above sounds like a soft no.
/r/seduction20/06/23 04:59 AM
2

Yes
/r/seduction14/06/23 03:04 PM
-6

Meh. Plenty of people have that attitude in western countries. We even have a saying: practice makes perfect. This is some weird Asian fetish posting.
/r/seduction04/06/23 12:19 AM
2

Alpha males never say they are alpha males. They don’t care.
/r/seduction01/06/23 06:20 AM
94

I was at a summer camp dance once, I think I was 13, and a few girls came up to me and asked me where I was from. I told them, “Cityville” (not the real name). They said, “What a coincidence! She is from Townsburg!” It was a good way to break the ice. We danced and talked a bit. Then we said goodbye. I still remember her name.
/r/seduction30/05/23 10:36 PM
1

Mid 20s
/r/seduction26/04/23 04:03 AM
5

Talk to them like they are people, not like they are women.
/r/seduction01/10/22 05:19 PM
1

I told her. She knew. She toyed with me. Most women don’t do that but if you find one that does then get out.
/r/seduction30/09/22 06:18 PM
5

But if you follow this path and you start getting mixed signals — like she showers you with attention until you catch feelings again and then rejects you again — eject and gtf out.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:59 AM
116

From someone with decades of regret, don’t try to be friends with her until you don’t have any romantic feelings for her.
/r/seduction29/09/22 02:02 PM
1

That’s what I did 25 years ago.
/r/seduction20/09/22 02:36 AM
3

How do you know what kind of guy you want. I wanted a relationship at your age and didn’t know how to find one. I felt like hookup culture was shallow and I wasn’t into that. But then that extended to thinking pursuing someone based just of physical attraction was shallow. I wanted to get to know someone first before I dated them. The problem is DATING IS HOW YOU GET TO KNOW SOMEONE! Go on dates. You don’t have to get sexual. Tell them you are old fashioned. You are doing something that makes yo…
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:51 AM
1

Don’t message her and forget about her. You deserve someone who remembers your birthday.
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:40 AM
1

Take an improv class. It won’t help you be funny but will help with your inhibitions keeping you from saying things you already know are funny.
/r/seduction16/09/22 04:16 AM
1

Where do you go that it couldn’t happen?
/r/seduction14/09/22 04:07 PM
0

Both
/r/seduction03/09/22 01:39 AM
3

No
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:59 AM
2

That’s what I learned to do in my 20s too. Just pretend that you know for certain they are into you and just talk to them.
/r/seduction01/09/22 04:51 AM
1

Have a good time. Learn. I wish I had been open to dating older women when I was 19.
/r/seduction30/08/22 03:28 PM
1

I’ve remember reading read that all cervical cancer is caused by hpv. I don’t know if that is still scientific consensus.
/r/seduction29/08/22 04:55 AM
1

A cute girl sat next to me at the airport when I had me nails painted. We ended up chatting for a few hours since the plane was delayed. Never had that happen without painted nails.
/r/seduction22/08/22 01:42 AM
4

I’m wondering if you can wingman each other at the wedding.
/r/seduction03/08/22 02:44 AM
2

This. There was a girl in the dorms at college who flirted hard with everyone except me. Turns out she had a huge crush on me and didn’t flirt because the stakes were too high.
/r/seduction02/08/22 06:27 PM
13

Dude. You are 28. Be direct. Ask her to lunch and talk to her about it. Tell her that you think she’s sending signals. Tell her she’s gorgeous but you just got out of a breakup and are hesitant to get involved so soon. Ask her what she is looking for. Don’t shut down dating her. It doesn’t have to be serious. Talk to her about what she wants. You are the more mature and older guy. Act like it instead of playing footsy.
/r/seduction28/07/22 10:58 PM
5

Figuring this out at 20 years old is still young and ahead of most guys.
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:28 AM
2

Turned on then turned off then turned on then turned off.
/r/seduction28/07/22 03:50 AM
4

Especially the quadruple x stuff. She might not even be into kink.
/r/seduction28/07/22 12:03 AM
1

I think the opportunity was there. Most of us were just fucking idiots. I see so many missed opportunities myself in hindsight.
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:13 AM
1

It wasn’t better for the average guy in the 90s.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:47 PM
5

Another possible response: “Okay. Wait right here.” Then go home.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:10 PM
2

I’ve struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts. I really, really do know how you feel. Depression lies. You have so much to gain. If you are seriously planning to harm yourself please get help. You can call or text 988 for immediate help.
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:40 AM
1

New actions will get you new results. Embrace the fear. Lean into it. Your depression may be saying you have nothing worth living for. That means you have nothing to lose. Nothing to fear. Go to an open mic. Try to really hit bottom. Flying is throwing yourself at the ground and missing. I bet you can soar.
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:27 AM
1

I’m reading your other replies. You don’t know what to do. I’ll give you three hobbies: Learn to play guitar. Go get a cheap guitar from a pawn shop. Start following Justin Guitar on YouTube and practice at least 15 minutes every day. Practice an hour when you have time. Go to open mic nights. Just listen at first. Hiking. Search online for cool day hikes within a few hours of where you live. Hike and see cool places. Take your guitar and practice in cool places. Go on at least one hike every we…
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:10 PM
1

Find three hobbies you are passionate about. Invest your time in those. It will make you more interesting. You won’t have time for some of them if you get into a relationship. Ideally choose ones that get you socializing with people.
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:02 PM
1

Mixed signals are a no.
/r/seduction12/07/22 07:31 PM
15

And if she is into you it can actually be difficult to mess it up.
/r/seduction03/06/22 02:19 PM
14

“Do you have a single friend you can bring?”
/r/seduction31/05/22 07:25 AM
3

Literally left the date early to spend the rest of the night with another guy.
/r/seduction07/05/22 06:23 PM
1

My secret is shared above. You have to not care about being rejected. Women will reject you for a million reasons unrelated to you. You have to learn how to disconnect emotionally early on. You have to figure out how to like yourself enough that you are okay being alone. I also started assuming that every woman I talked to was interested in me. But that is just a confidence hack. Fake it ‘til you make it. And I moved on fast once I got a whiff of rejection. If a woman wasn’t will to even make sm…
/r/seduction14/04/22 06:47 AM
1

Said hi and tried to start a conversation. If I got a hint of rejection I moved on and didn’t look back. It took me about two years of detaching emotionally when I first met women before I met my wife. I actually thought she rejected me twice the first night and started to move on but she turned it around by coming on to me. I didn’t figure out how to hit on women successfully until my mid twenties.
/r/seduction14/04/22 04:25 AM
1

I’ve been where you are. It isn’t impossible. You have to disconnect and keep your expectations low early on. That means not caring if you are rejected.
/r/seduction12/04/22 02:30 AM
6

It seems like a paradox, but he is right.
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:08 PM
1

It’s hard. Hang in there.
/r/seduction27/03/22 02:45 AM
6

Especially: “never get too attached too soon.”
/r/seduction26/03/22 07:12 PM
1

No. Sometimes two people decide they are both great matches for each other and get married and grow old together. Dating isn’t a lifelong commitment. A lot of people are looking for a lifetime relationship. You date to figure out if this person is it. Once you figure out they aren’t you move on. There isn’t really anything to do if the other person wants to move on. “Fighting” for them can result in toxic behavior. If you want closure, leave them a message and say something like, “I feel like yo…
/r/seduction26/03/22 07:04 PM
4

Keep trying
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:33 PM
1

I remember a cartoon of different band members. The drummer had a girl. The singer had two girls. The bassist was surrounded by girls. The guitarist was surrounded by guitars.
/r/seduction08/03/22 02:40 AM
1

It’s just an example that I found with thirty seconds of Googling.
/r/seduction28/02/22 01:01 AM
1

https://medium.com/university-of-leeds/not-all-men-but-virtually-all-women-fd76ef51ba73
/r/seduction28/02/22 12:54 AM
2

Trick yourself into faking it somehow. Whatever you are afraid of, make believe that the opposite is true and act accordingly.
/r/seduction28/02/22 12:47 AM
1

If you are susceptible to falling into an abusive relationship, then it will probably happen and that will be 99% of your experience. It is sort of like “most men don’t sexually harass women but every woman has been sexually harassed.”
/r/seduction28/02/22 12:45 AM
5

Older guys
/r/seduction21/02/22 07:20 AM
2

So you are only friends with them to prove you don’t only value them for their vaginas? I’m sure you don’t mean that, but it is exactly what you said.
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:07 PM
2

I was raised by a narcissist.
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:02 AM
1

You’re understanding of what “nice” means is flawed. Your bounds are too tight. You’ll have to branch out into uncomfortable territory to find the real boundaries. You’ll feel like you are being an asshole but you won’t be. Except you’ll cross the boundaries sometimes. Learn to recognize the difference. You will need to practice.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:32 AM
3

Learning how to develop romantic relationships is still necessary even when you are an authentically nice guy.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:29 AM
2

You just sold me on that book. I thought it was standard PUA bullshit but that describes me to a T. I think I learned some of that on my own, but there’s probably more I could benefit from.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:13 AM
3

These are soft no’s. Women use them because some men become dangerous when receiving a direct rejection. Moving on at the first sign of rejection was one of the best lessons I learned.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:06 AM
1

I think this is good advice. “Always think about what is best for you before anyone else…” This is helpful to read. It was drilled into me over and over growing up that I should put God first, others second, and myself third. I was also discouraged from setting and maintaining boundaries. I was terrible at dating for a long time.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:00 AM
1

It depends on how you define “nice”. A long time ago I thought “nice” meant don’t say anything sexual. I tried to be rude to a girl by saying sexual stuff and ended up accidentally complimenting her. I messed up the follow up by being actually rude because I’m an idiot. I guess my point is, you’ll have to risk being “not nice” to learn the true boundaries of being nice. Just try to recognize when you cross the line and be nice about apologizing. Although there are probably fake lines that you do…
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:49 AM
5

Can you describe why he is hot?
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:23 AM
1

He is extremely highly capable. You don’t get to SNL and then star in movies without that. I think he is probably also really nice when his BPD isn’t acting up. Actors who are assholes don’t last long. Although that begs the original question: How do you act nice like Pete Davidson?
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:21 AM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction17/02/22 12:22 AM
24

Both of these are true because not all women are the same.
/r/seduction16/02/22 08:22 PM
2

That is a pretty casual rejection. Asking her on vday was a mistake. Don’t ask her again. It can be a bad idea to try to date someone who you work with. If it goes badly you have to keep seeing them. Don’t be weird around her now. You two had a good working relationship and you might have damaged it. If she feels like she is being punished professionally for saying no, it could qualify as sexual harassment. But hopefully with the casualness of it that won’t be an issue. She probably has someone …
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:26 PM
0

If the advice doesn’t work for you then don’t do it. That’s fine. It doesn’t bother me. I’m not interested in arguing about it.
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:20 AM
1

Oh, and dancers in strip clubs are exactly like regular women because they are regular women. They have hopes and dreams and are just doing their job. Their job is to not outright reject you if you are giving them money. But you can still talk to them like people just like you talk to any woman like a person. They’d rather talk for money than give lap dances for money. Just tip them and ask how long they’ll talk and flirt with you for $20. Tell them you need practice.
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:59 AM
2

You don’t know anything about a woman you just start talking to. You don’t know she isn’t into you. You have to start with some sort of hypothesis. Science is about making a hypothesis and then performing experiments in an attempt to disprove that hypothesis. It is a lot easier to observe rejection than acceptance. You start with the hypothesis that they are into your and try to disprove it with observation. If you assume they aren’t into you and observe rejection then you are falling prey to co…
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:55 AM
1

I’m telling you to change your attitude. Even if you don’t really believe it, try to fool yourself into believing it. I got more comfortable talking to women by talking to dancers in strip clubs. It costs money but not much more than therapy. Just try to treat them like people. You can even be honest that you freeze up talking to women and you were hoping to get practice talking to dancers.
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:12 AM
2

Seduction is important in romantic relationships too.
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:38 AM
3

I started having success with women when I started with the assumption they were into me. If I got a hint of disinterest I moved on. I had a few women chase me back after I moved on and ended up dating one of them for a long time. How would you act towards an attractive woman if you knew 100% they had a huge crush on you? Act that way towards all women. Also, act the same way towards men. It doesn’t have to be sexual. It will make you more charismatic. The non-sexual charm you show to men can tr…
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:38 AM
1

Yep. It took me way too long to figure that out. I was taught by my elders that it was disrespectful to display any sexual behavior towards women I wasn’t already in a romantic relationship with. Women who weren’t interested in me stuck around for friendship. Women who were interested in me thought I wasn’t interested and moved on.
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:23 AM
1

Like 1950s old school.
/r/seduction04/02/22 03:07 AM
4

You can be considerate without developing emotional attachment. Flirting without being creepy takes practice. I took a six hour flight in the past few years. I was in the middle seat next to an attractive woman around my age. I said something generic to her like, “How are you doing?” She responded, “I’m married.” “I’m married too. I wasn’t try to hit on you. I was just being friendly since we are going to be sitting next to each other.” Then I ignored her. I made sure I didn’t man spread into he…
/r/seduction04/02/22 03:07 AM
1

Also, I was called a hottie by a woman in her probably late-70s or maybe even 80s recently. I wasn’t interested, but it still made me feel good. I smiled at her. That isn’t advice. Just an observation that guys rarely receive compliments and we remember every single one.
/r/seduction04/02/22 02:57 AM
1

I’m not in the game anymore. I’ve been married for years so I don’t actually test pick up approaches. But I’m still friendly with anyone who is friendly with me. And occasionally women still smile at me. Today I’d say smile but masks make that difficult. I guess when I see a stranger smile at me I still smile back. I try to make sure I’m smiling with my eyes. I also try to project an energy beam of kindness and general love for humanity at them. I don’t think I’m actually psychic but I like to t…
/r/seduction04/02/22 02:46 AM
1

My mom told me to wink at girls I like when I was in fifth grade. It was never good advice. Every woman I’ve told this to has said winking is cringe.
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:37 PM
3

Avoid developing emotional attachment until you know them better. You don’t care about strangers who you never talk to rejecting you. You should care a similar amount to people who you have talked to for less than a minute.
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:36 PM
8

Get rejected before you invest yourself in the girl. The erosion happens because you build it up. If she says yes and rejects you later — yes, that hurts bur that should be less frequent than rejection from someone you don’t know.
/r/seduction01/02/22 07:26 PM
2

Sorry, man. That’s hard. Let her go. She isn’t interested. Look up “soft no” if you don’t know the term.
/r/seduction01/02/22 06:09 AM
2

But are you clean?
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:54 AM
1

I’ve always done everything she lists and plenty of women have found me unattractive.
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:47 AM
1

You can do all of that and still be found unattractive.
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:44 AM
4

I felt creepy going to clubs in my late 20s.
/r/seduction30/01/22 05:08 PM
2

Some courts say that you both must have an equivalent lifestyle for the rest of your lives based on the length of the marriage. They may decide that she gets 70% of assets and lifelong spousal support.
/r/Divorce_Men13/01/22 11:57 PM
2

Stop slowly trying to mack. Ask her on a date. If the date goes well, ask if you can kiss her.
/r/seduction09/10/21 02:06 AM
3

There is literally no difference in talking to a cute woman your age and talking to any other stranger. I know you are thinking “bullshit”. That is because you are putting the women on a pedestal. You have an idealized expectation about who they are. They pick up on that and it is uncomfortable. Women are people first. Treat them like people first. Get good at talking to all people — that includes women you are attracted to. You have to get rid of that pedestal and see them as people just like a…
/r/seduction06/10/21 03:34 AM
1

Yeah, it is difficult.
/r/seduction05/10/21 04:38 PM
6

Then practice it. If people think you are too weird then apologize and say your therapist recommended you try small talk with strangers. Start with people who you don’t have an emotional reaction to. You can start with compliments. Tell a male cashier that you like his shirt or something. Find something unique or interesting about every person you see and compliment them on it.
/r/seduction05/10/21 04:38 PM
15

It means she is paying attention to you. She noticed you aren’t talking. Be honest why are quiet. Then say you do better 1-on-1 and ask if she wants to get coffee somewhere.
/r/seduction21/09/21 10:30 PM
1

“Why did you give me your number?”
/r/seduction17/09/21 03:59 AM
-1

“I don’t know, really. I thought you were beautiful and something about your energy caught my eye.”
/r/seduction17/09/21 03:22 AM
2

I froze like a deer in headlights the two times I was approached by women. They just introduced themselves. Be patient with them. A stunned look is not necessarily rejection.
/r/seduction16/09/21 03:02 AM
1

You got rejected. Move on to the next.
/r/seduction07/09/21 08:21 PM
7

I agree. Incomplete advice is often bad.
/r/seduction04/09/21 09:53 PM
8

It is too easy to misinterpret so it is bad advice.
/r/seduction04/09/21 07:47 PM
2

"Someone will eventually see that you are worth dating."
/r/seduction04/09/21 07:45 PM
1

It takes practice and effort. I’m still not as socially smooth as many people. I probably never will be. But then I have adhd and my therapist thinks I’m probably on the autistic spectrum a little. I’m close to 50 now. I’ve said this before but I got over my fear of talking to women by talking to dancers at strip clubs. I consider it a form of therapy. Take some improv or acting classes. Improv is great because you get practice playing “Yes, and…”. Being playful and flirty is a lot of “yes, and”…
/r/seduction01/09/21 07:53 PM
2

Some states want both spouses to be on equal financial footing the rest of their lives. Especially for “long” marriages. Where long is defined by the state. In CA it can be 10 years. In WA it can be 25 years. At least you didn’t have to pay alimony forever.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/21 04:46 AM
1

Earnings is usually defined by a W-2. I think. I could be wrong.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/21 03:52 AM
3

Brilliant!
/r/seduction31/08/21 04:01 AM
1

21 isn’t old to be a virgin. It isn’t a race.
/r/seduction30/08/21 06:05 PM
130

I agree with this, but don’t be aloof if she talks to you. Treat her like you would anyone else at the party. Don’t be too nice, but be as kind as possible.
/r/seduction29/08/21 05:02 PM
3

This is good advice. Work to figure out how to do this.
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:06 PM
3

Move it forward or back off. Don’t stay in I Wonder Land. Ask her out.
/r/seduction28/08/21 06:49 AM
4

Finding the right person to have a loving relationship is a numbers game. You don't pick the first person you kiss. Confidence is a catch-22. I see a lot of good advice here that I discovered through experience. Yes, there is shit advice here. There is also some gold.
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:41 AM
1

I think I was 27 when I figured it out.
/r/seduction27/08/21 05:15 AM
4

I saw work isn't low risk because if you cross a line you could get fired. You will also be weird at first and that could affect you politically at work. Low stakes means different things to different people. Technically a bar or club is low risk -- unless you have social anxiety and heightened rejection response -- which I had (and probably still do). You could visit churches on Sunday and try talking to people afterwards. Vacations, maybe? Do group tours if there is a tourist area near you. Tr…
/r/seduction26/08/21 08:29 PM
6

Work might not be low consequence.
/r/seduction26/08/21 08:19 PM
6

Practice talking to people. Try to learn about them. I got comfortable talking to women by going to strip clubs. I was young and obviously shy and the dancers would talk to me. You kind of have to pay them but you'd pay a therapist too and this isn't much different. They aren't going to be mean to you since they want money. Once you can comfortably talk to a woman hanging out in underwear its easier talking to women who are fully dressed.
/r/seduction26/08/21 08:10 PM
4

“How to Win Friends and Influence People” was a big part of my journey.
/r/seduction26/08/21 08:05 PM
4

Practice in safe environments. Safe in the sense that you can make mistakes with low consequence.
/r/seduction26/08/21 08:04 PM
30

It isn't about being loud and introverted. It's about being playful. Do your best to pretend they really like you. Pretend you've known them forever. Fool yourself into that mindset. You'll get better with practice. Being charming to genders you aren't attracted to is low stakes so you shouldn't be nervous about it. You can also compliment guys. Tell someone you like their shirt or their shoes or something. I saw an older black man at the store dressed in a suit. I told him he was looking sharp.…
/r/seduction26/08/21 07:56 PM
6

Yeah, ideally flirting comes across as charming. For me it started with flirting. I was having lunch with one of my friends and was doing this with the male waiter who turned out to be gay and flirted back. My biggest worry was giving him mixed messages and leading him on. It is hard to do this if you have any homophobia.
/r/seduction26/08/21 07:52 PM
64

Flirt with men and women even if you are only attracted to one. You’ll learn appropriate boundaries for the one you aren’t attracted to and that when you are talking to someone you are attracted to you’ll have better control on where you are taking things.
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:10 PM
7

It depends on the school. I went to an engineering school with something like a 4:1 gender imbalance. The women were hit on constantly. You couldn’t even make eye contact without them being frosty. I was chatting with a woman several years after college. She mentioned she went to that school. When I said that I did too, that same frostiness appeared. She talked about how hard it was constantly being hit on. But the liberal arts college in the next town was something like 40:60 men:women and I he…
/r/seduction25/08/21 05:18 PM
6

Do women like showing off their breasts as much as men like showing off their dicks? Has anyone ever complained about an unsolicited boob pic?
/r/seduction24/08/21 07:29 PM
1

Go to a strip club and talk to the girls. Tell them you are painfully shy and are there to try to get over it. They’ll talk to you. You should give them money for their time. Consider it a form of therapy.
/r/seduction22/08/21 06:38 AM
1

I honestly don’t know what her job is. I think she just had office jobs. I don’t know that I see a lot of virtue signaling. She done some charity work and was pretty vocal about that. But part of that work is raising awareness.
/r/seduction21/08/21 03:55 PM
2

I agree. She also presented a false image of herself to me. In the years since I’ve learned a lot more about her and I never really knew who she really was.
/r/seduction21/08/21 03:47 PM
2

Yep. You live and learn and hopefully don’t repeat the same mistakes. And maybe help someone else avoid a similar mistake.
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:41 AM
4

I was not dating anyone else. It was an engineering school with a terrible gender balance. I was not actively trying to date her. I was honestly trying to be her friend but I did hope that she would change her mind eventually. I remember getting a lot of mixed signals from her. It wasn’t a regular friendship. It was somewhere between friends and dating. I think I disassociated when I originally read this. I didn’t really fully understand what it was saying. Later she asked me what I thought abou…
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:30 AM
5

She gave it to me about six months after I asked if she would date me. It’s fucking weird and some sort of mind game.
/r/seduction21/08/21 04:50 AM
10

Yeah, she had a pattern of doing this. When I would try to distance myself she’d give me attention until I was hooked again then she’d back off. I think it was narcissism or borderline. I went decades blaming myself for never telling her my true feelings. But in my diary I found I told her pretty early. It was terrible for my self esteem and confidence. I’ve had some other female friends tell my much later that I was very good looking and they had crushes on me but I was to wrapped around this g…
/r/seduction21/08/21 04:35 AM
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Agree. I recently found a diary from that time. I wrote that I would honestly just try to be her friend, but being around her while she talked about other guys was hell and terrible for my self-esteem (she was apparently attracted to everyone except me). When we'd do stuff together, she'd cut it off short to go bang her current boyfriend. She came to college town one summer and said she really wanted to see me. I rearranged my schedule at work to see her and she spent five minutes with me before…
/r/seduction20/08/21 04:29 PM
1

Move on. Chase a different girl.
/r/seduction18/08/21 04:12 PM
2

I appreciate the explanation and understanding.
/r/seduction14/08/21 08:03 PM
1

Fair enough. Across the pond we have people who really believe that and they engage in toxic behavior.
/r/seduction14/08/21 07:48 PM
1

USA
/r/seduction14/08/21 04:18 PM
3

I’m so sorry. That sounds very painful.
/r/seduction14/08/21 02:25 AM
1

No! That’s the wrong message!
/r/seduction13/08/21 09:40 PM
1

I think it is more likely that your idea of “asshole” is wrong. Women, in my experience, do not like assholes.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:21 PM
1

In general, women don’t like assholes.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:47 PM
1

No, they don’t. I wasn’t an asshole to her until the later part of the story. Then she wasn’t interested in me. That first thing I said — You are doing a good job [of looking sexy] — was a compliment. It was a little bold, but it was a compliment. I was trying to be an asshole but I failed. She liked the compliment and she liked the confidence in my delivery.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:21 PM
2

I guess the lesson there is to move on quickly but be open if they decide to reciprocate. I had a bad experience with a girl who would alternate between hot and cold. She kept me in orbit for years. I was probably overly sensitive to people playing games.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:04 PM
2

I got shit advice. “Just be yourself.” “Be patient, someone will eventually see your value.” “You’ll find love when you stop looking.”
/r/seduction13/08/21 05:04 PM
2

I didn’t figure it out until I was 25 or so. I also wish I had figured it out earlier. I’m just trying to give back so maybe some of the young guys today don’t have to go through the same pain.
/r/seduction13/08/21 04:38 PM
3

I’ve been out of that game for so long. I can’t remember specific things I said. I didn’t have lines anyway. How would you talk to someone who you knew was definitely into you? Do that. And if they aren’t interested then move on.
/r/seduction13/08/21 03:45 PM
1

It was the same back then. I didn’t do cold approaches. Meeting women was still really difficult. But once I did I made my intentions clear.
/r/seduction13/08/21 03:37 PM
1

My first comment to her wasn’t mean.
/r/seduction13/08/21 03:35 PM
7

The “secret” I developed was to talk to ever woman like I knew she wanted to fuck me. But I’f move on like she didn’t exist if I got any sort of rejection. I’m sure I walked away from some women that were playing games but that is just bonus. You can use the same trick with any gender even if you have no sexual interest in them. The confidence and the focus of interest will usually come across as charming.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:55 AM
3

I’ve never been asked that. With my current life experience, I would interpret that as her wanting sex. If I were dating, my response would be “Don’t we all? What do you want?”
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:42 AM
7

Ask her out. If she says no, be cool about it and don’t ask her out again. My job has training that you can ask a coworker out exactly once.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:13 AM
1

Say yes and practice getting over your social anxiety. You could even be emotionally vulnerable and tell her your social anxiety made you want to say no, but you’d like to go on a date if you can arrange it. Your excuses for saying no are weak and you will regret saying no later.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:05 AM
1

Say yes. Then figure it out. 10 miles is nothing. You can ride your bike that far.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:03 AM
1

That is more banter than flirting. Workplace banter is fine. Don’t read anything into her one word answer. It probably had nothing to do with you.
/r/seduction13/08/21 07:01 AM
1

Say something like “It’s kind of loud/hot/cold/about to close/something else here. Do you want to go to my place and hang out? I can show you my record collection/introduce you to my dog/other interesting thing you talked about that evening.”
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:54 AM
2

I got over my fear of talking to women by talking to dancers in strip clubs. Yes, I had to pay them but it was probably less expensive than therapy. Once you get comfortable talking to half naked women sitting in lap you can talk to any woman.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:49 AM
15

I wish I had had someone more wise to give me advice when I was your age. I’m just trying to give the advice that I didn’t get.
/r/seduction13/08/21 06:39 AM
1

This is basically what I learned to do in my late 20s. Good advice. I also moved on without looking back if they signaled any rejection.
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:00 AM
5

It took me a long time to learn about soft no’s. I spent too much time chasing women who really weren’t interested in me but wouldn’t give me a clear no. Find a low threshold for rejection and move on once it has been reached.
/r/seduction10/08/21 06:44 AM
3

He likes you. His confidence is shit. If you want to date him be direct. Also compliment him.
/r/seduction10/08/21 06:43 AM
1

Break it off with her. At 24 you’ve done better with women than I had at 24.
/r/seduction07/08/21 06:23 PM
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