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/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:59 AM
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Ok so let me say this, I would love if trans women who medically transition actually achieved some semblance of a female body. Except, that's not what these con-artists surgeons are selling. A real vagina that a baby can come out of is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:58 AM
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Oh, to be fair I agree with you on that somewhat. It's hilarious when guys are like "Oh well now I'm just going to wait for women to approach me!" It's like, yeah good luck with that. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:35 AM
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I was just saying though that the good guys that don't try, when they do try, you'll just think they're a bad guy anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:33 AM
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Are you saying that most men don't know what would happen if they stopped approaching at all? That's the reality of everyday life for every man. They already know what happens when they step back and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:33 PM
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Do you understand why a good man would be turned off by feeling like he's getting in your business when you don't want him there? A man has to be that guy at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:32 PM
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It's not a problem for you because you're a woman, but the problem is, what does the man do from there to not be hated by you once he becomes somebody who "doesn't fear rejection"? Your answer is probably "Idk, idc". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:29 PM
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Also, are you saying that relationships and sex happen naturally out of these low intention interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:27 PM
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He's only speaking in the context of building relationships. So he's saying, why should men communicate with women to build relationships with them? I'm sure he doesn't mean he won't talk to the waitress who's taking his order. He for sure will talk to women when it's actually forced and necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:26 PM
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Go back to the OP. He's implicitly saying, why should men interact with women in the context of building a relationship? You're saying "Men and women interact outside of the context of building a relationship". Ok, so what? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:21 PM
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You have to expand on your point a little bit though. Are you saying relationships still happen when people aren't expressly trying to form them? Or are you simply saying that men and women interact aimlessly at times? Yeah sure, you might talk to the waitress or waiter, or the gym staff at the gym, but what part of not interacting with people is society breaking for you? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:18 PM
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Listen, you can take every single word in the English dictionary and reduce it to meaning nothing when you continue along this train of thought that you are on, but ultimately, one biological sex gets pregnant, and the other cums inside that person. There isn't a single instance where a life has been spawned between a post-op trans woman and a post-op trans man. So fine, take the word female, take the word woman, take the word girl. Take all the words you want. You were born because two people c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:11 PM
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I guess I'm trying to understand your point. Why should people interact aimlessly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:04 PM
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Yes, but this type of segregation is not government mandated. I guess you could argue that it is and that they're psyoping all of us but that's a different argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:02 PM
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Even a man who inspires lust is not going to get randomly approached by women most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:00 PM
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Ok, so you're talking about if I go on a walk at the park and say hello to the people walking by and go about my business? I mean, I don't think that's society breaking if I decide not to do that on certain days. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:58 PM
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Do you see the problem with your statement? If the man ever wants to have a relationship ever, he has to reduce his fear of rejection, and that usually means lots of exposure to it. Most men aren't going to get the first woman they go up to first try. Your "decent man" is just a guy who hasn't realized what he needs to do yet and will remain forever single if he doesn't wise up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:56 PM
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They don't, but they do need to until they find someone who accepts them. Do you understand the struggle from that perspective? Like, what am I supposed to do, just quit after one rejection or wait months until I try again? There's no guarantee that the next woman will say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:52 PM
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What you're describing has already happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:51 PM
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I was kinda with what you were saying, but when you say that people aren't trying to make friends when they go out, but they are still interacting, what's the fun in that? Why would you go out just to socialize with a "socialization object" that is an actual person if you don't either intend to have a genuine friendship with them, or a relationship? It's like the flip side of physical objectification. Also, what's your solution for dating from this perspective? Do people just have surface level …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:50 PM
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Even medical transition is not really an objective treatment. Someone just decided one day "this is how we transition people". There's no objective standard like "oh this is how the monkies genitally mutilate themselves to change gender with the monkey surgeons out in the wild". That's the problem I have with the surgeries. If they could turn a biological male into someone who can get pregnant, then we'd be getting somewhere, but as of now, they just turn a biological man into a fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:36 PM
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I can concede that trans women are women, but trans women are not female. That's a big concession for me, because for me that basically means that the word woman is useless because anyone could be a woman if they simply said they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:34 PM
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I would agree with you under normal circumstances, but the word "woman" has been hijacked by many people who are biological males. Female is the certain word that hasn't been touched by pretenders. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:22 PM
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Postgender woman is a little bit of an oxymoron isn't it? Postgender female makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:03 PM
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Yes, but then is your average woman Sydney Sweeney? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:58 PM
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Jeffrey is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:53 PM
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While part of this can be true, I think there's a major problem with incels/black pillers overestimating the sexual desirability of men while underrating women. They pretty much do the thing they accuse women of where they don't accurately rate women and consider the horribly unfortunate looking women as not even women. They don't include these lower tier women on their scale and don't accurately rate their scale based on the actual number of those types of women. They shove all the lower tier w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:49 PM
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Really that modern philosophy is a psyop to turn everyone in the country against the native men and it seems to have worked very successfully. Notice how they group "women and minorities" together and then white men are their own fringe group designed to be kept away from them. It's all by design. We all know that the modern white woman is the most privileged possible being in existence, and yet they group themselves with who they perceive as "my fellow oppressed by the white man minority". It e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:38 PM
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I can imagine it a lot more for someone who wasn't born into wealth. The doctor or lawyer dude whose family was poor I think would be open to dating the super hot McDonald's worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:31 PM
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I would have pushed back and said that he's basically saying the same thing you said with the whole "country club or tennis court" thing. He just added another layer to it with the high end club.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:30 PM
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It's a little bit more justifiable for men to not know for sure in the initial stages, because they have to make the first move. Trying to decide if someone likes you before making the first move is difficult and maybe even impossible. At that point you sorta just have to throw yourself at them and see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:27 PM
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Sometimes it's really not clear at all though. I believe that you can never tell if someone likes you until they literally sleep with you. They can be having this enthusiastic conversation with you that you think is a sign, but nothing really certifies it more than them actually getting in bed with you. Or, you might think someone's giving you choosing eyes, when in reality they just happened to glance at you once and were curious about what you were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:24 PM
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Consider it from the man's perspective. He's the one making EVERYTHING happen so that for you it feels like "oh it just happened". He's the one that has to make that magic moment where it feels organic, when in reality, he's willing it into existence with his own willpower. It's always going to feel rapey for the man, even when the girl is fine with it and wants it, because he's the one actually making the move and taking the leap of faith that you're into him since girls don't want to be direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:19 PM
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Could it be that this view on incest was an attempt to ease tensions around miscegenation? Two different races of people having a baby are probably not brother and sister. Perhaps this was a way to make this more socially acceptable when there were more racist tensions around it? I know I'm getting a little conspiratorial at this point and calling into question the integrity of the studies, but maybe they thought that this was for the greater good to create more social cohesion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:50 PM
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Why would defects happen at all from similar genetics? Why wouldn't it simply just create more and more similar children? Are defects really more likely to occur with incest any more than any other couple? I know that technically the answer from "studies" is probably yes, but I'm just wondering how often these defects happen vs how often they could simply happen to anyone. At some point in history there were a very small number of humans, and somehow, they propagated themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:29 PM
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Here's another inquiry that I don't know if somehow could be determined. Could it be that after several generations of familial incest that the family members who get old are causing these defects and not the young ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:25 PM
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Ok so listen, I don't know all the scientific explanations for why incest is bad, but it's hard for me to believe that for our entire history, there were enough humans to where we weren't fucking somebody we were related to. This is especially true at the beginning of humanity. At some point if there's no one else around, what can you really do? Maybe ideally you find someone to fuck that's not your sister, but if you're a caveman back in caveman times trying to create a large population and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:57 PM
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I don't think that's it. Single moms are a little bit less picky out of desperation and lack of time to filter through men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:52 PM
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Single moms to put it simply, have been humbled by the fact that their relationship has ended. Also, they're a little more desperate because they want a father figure for their kids or they simply don't have time to do a bunch of filtering that a childless woman would do. Childless women are pickier for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:49 PM
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Women care about looks just as much. Attractive behavior is simply a self-fulfilling feedback loop of the girl encouraging your interaction because she likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:45 PM
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Most attractive behavior comes from a self-fulfilling feedback loop of the girl encouraging your approach because she finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:43 PM
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You can get rejected for being too skinny too so it's not only being overweight that can disqualify you. In fact, most women prefer a guy to be bigger rather than too small.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:34 PM
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You lost me at observing the masses when you already said that observation is a faulty teacher. You might observe from the outside, and let's say it's a double-blind experiment (I think I'm using that terminology right). You could watch and see the pigeons spinning in circles receiving food, and come to the same conclusion that the pigeons are if you don't have an outside objective perspective on what the experiment is about and what the variables are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:33 PM
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World leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:53 PM
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Right, and people took Maxwell and Jeffrey very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:36 AM
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There is no vagueness. I disagree. I think women would much prefer a stocky slightly overweight guy over a twig most of the time. I don't think there are that many men who have a fat woman preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:58 PM
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Some things aren't as hard as their mystique suggests especially when you are willing to communicate with the person honestly about your level of experience. If you're trying to be the big alpha, then you might not gleam as much from one time because you will be dishonest about your level of experience. Ghislaine Maxwell being a powermod says something a lot different than a 25 year old who had sex for the first time sharing his experience. Her being a power-mod suggests that maybe this place is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:49 PM
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Yeah, but are they really attracted to the man or are they leveraging the one-sided physical attraction that the powerful man has for them? Maybe they are willing to give up some carnal pleasure for the power they gain being associated with a powerful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:42 PM
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That's a fetish. I'm sure there are some women out there who fetishize fat men just like there are female pedos, even though they are less commonly discussed. How many people are unironically chubby chasers anyways who aren't chopped?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:40 PM
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Wait when you say "before recent times", does that mean you did have PIV intercourse in recent times?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:38 PM
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There is sexual dimorphism, but I'm saying it's two sides of the same coin. It comes down to physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:30 PM
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Yeah, but that's very simple, so you may as well see what else you can do to please the woman because pleasing yourself is not something you really even have to focus on. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:29 PM
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Women are attracted to the same things men are attracted to. It's just that women will sometimes leverage their attractiveness for money and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:54 PM
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So cute how this point falls under the ground once is the women having to do anything. I agree that women here sometimes argue along those lines, but you're acting like your pleasure is some monumental task that couldn't simultaneously be fulfilled while focusing on the woman's pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:51 PM
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Yeah I don't understand the people arguing against this. I feel like my penis is a lot simpler than these people saying to focus on the man's pleasure. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:44 PM
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It sounds like even from your example you're saying that men cum easier than women. You don't have to see it as slavery if you actually like the person you're fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:39 PM
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Why is it worthless? Are you saying sex is more complicated than can be grasped in one session? Why are you hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:37 PM
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I think the only thing you have to focus on is getting your dick in the vagina and not make it exclusively a hand job/pussy eating session. Otherwise, what are we talking about in terms of pleasure? I feel like if you do anything too crazy, you're going to bust early so that's why it makes sense to me to focus on the woman. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:35 PM
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Idk what this guy's talking about. When men cum, it's over, so of course you want to focus on the woman because if you try to peak the man's pleasure he'll just bust instantly, and does anyone want that? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:31 PM
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Is your dick really so complicated? There's not much better for me than simply having my dick in a vagina. On the other hand, women complain about not having orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:29 PM
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My pleasure's not very nuanced, so focusing on her pleasure doesn't seem bad for me. If my dick is in a vagina in any form or fashion, that's the peak for me. There's not really much they can do to enhance that, and if there was, I would probably simply bust instantly which I don't think either person wants. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:27 PM
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I remember some old TRP posts saying you should care more about your pleasure and the argument was somewhere along the lines of she would feel submissive and obligated to give you an orgasm and that because you're so alpha, she'd be turned on to please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:24 PM
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In my experience, women understand that better than men. I think if you're a man or a woman, if you punch up in looks, the person above you realizes they can leave you at any moment, while the person who's below thinks "Wow this is great I have someone out of my league. Why would I leave?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:18 PM
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Actually, they're just like guys who are really picky. You might think a guy is alright, but to women, they aren't equal to that hot girl with the nice booty in the yoga pants you see at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:19 AM
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I get what you mean, but I find your wording kinda funny. It makes it sound like you're saying "There's all these hot men out there and women are gonna make ME, a straight man, pursue them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:13 AM
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I think it's because I hear so many people say "I just had a child" referring to a newborn baby. Yeah that guy would still be a pedo if he pursued an 11 year old. lol I actually started having sex at 15, and I don't think it changed my personality in any way or had any impact on my "innocence" I'm curious though. Is there anything that you feel more significantly marks the point of the degrading of your innocence? I would argue that ignorance of sex completely is one of the things that make chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:08 AM
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Men are beggars not choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:39 PM
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I don't like where this would lead from a demographic perspective. It basically becomes a breeding free-for-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:04 PM
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I think that's true. Men are just obsessed with it from a place of feeling it defines their masculinity and women don't feel any of that pressure. That, and the fact that women find it easy because men are looking constantly for it means there's a supply and demand issue as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:54 PM
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When you hear people say "I had a great childhood". Do you think, oh that must have included all the wild sex they had with their same aged peers past puberty. Or, do you think of kids playing with toys and riding around in mini cars, playing dress up, and pretending to be cops and robbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:44 PM
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I can see using the word kid if you're old for an 18 year old but the word child is reserved for elementary school students and below in my mind. Even I've called a 19 year old a kid when I was like 23. I wouldn't call them a "child" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:37 PM
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For me being a man has a level of physical prowess to it. Some metrosexual dude who's able to woo the ladies is not my definition of what a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:51 AM
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It seems strange to me when people call 15 a "child". I would categorize that as a teen. I consider "children" to be prepubescent. So, by my definition, there shouldn't be children having sex, not even among their same age peers. There's something about the innocence of the word child to me to where if you're even thinking about having sex, you're not a child anymore in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:47 AM
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I think most of the complaints are about not being able to get in the door because of looks or some other thing that you were simply born with and can't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:08 PM
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Most men are talking about looks when they complain about standards. I don't think most men complain when there is something they can legitimately change and work on as a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:01 PM
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Maybe he was stubborn and insisted on taking care of her regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:51 PM
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I'm disagreeing with the OP. I think it's fine that the woman says all the nice thing her husband did for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:50 PM
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Wouldn't you rather she keep her standards rather than hoeing out easily for Chadeep Singh after making her husband do all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:48 PM
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Nah her daddy is Mossad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:47 PM
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I think this is crazy, because on the flip side, he would say "OH MY GOSH I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE MADE HER HUSBAND DO ALL THAT AND NOW SHE'S BANGING THE POOL BOY!" You're damned if you do damned if you don't in this case. If the woman will settle for less, she's a hoe. If the woman won't settle for less, her standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:46 PM
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Would you rather have the husband do all those things and then have Chadeep Singh come along and bang his wife with no effort? Isn't it better that her husband set the bar for future men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:44 PM
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It's not even rage bait though. It's just a girl saying she won't accept less from men now that her former husband set such a great example. I don't understand the problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:42 PM
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You have no idea what's normal if you're good looking enough to have three wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:41 PM
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It's not her fault that he did that. She's saying that's how great of a man he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:40 PM
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It's not even that bad though. She's saying she loved what her husband did and won't accept less from future men. That's what red pill men want. They don't want a woman to have made her dead husband do all that and then give up sex for free to some other man. OP is rage baiting himself by misinterpreting the nature of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:38 PM
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She's not saying what her husband did is the bare minimum. She's saying her husband set the standard for future men because he was so great. You know that, but you purposely misinterpreted to rage bait yourself. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:33 PM
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Doesn't that speak to how well he treated her? She's not saying doing all those things was a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:32 PM
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You're purposefully misrepresenting what this woman is saying to fit your narrative. She's saying what her husband did was great, and that she won't accept less from future men. I don't think that's such a bad thing to say. She didn't say her husband was lacking at any point in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:30 PM
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I would say wanting to have sex is a part of treating me well. This might be truer from the man's perspective than the woman's perspective. If a woman pump and dumps me, sure I may have wanted more, but it's like, okay... got sex. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:26 PM
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I feel like a lot of things can be worked out with someone that's willing to have passionate sex with you. Someone who wants to have sex with you is on your team. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:59 AM
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I also fall into the category of wanting sex early, but I can understand what Lilith is trying to say. She's saying that you should just relax and expect that the sex is coming and just enjoy the company of the new person and it'll happen naturally. For a lot of us guys though, it's hard for us to have faith that it will escalate naturally without us making it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:57 AM
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Do you think he's a little bit autistic? It would have been nicer if he was just teasing. You look fine from the picture I saw. For me it's kinda like, I may have a scale that's 1-10 if I think about it, but honestly, it's much more like 0 or 1. 0 is no, 1 is yes. If they are a 1 in my book, then it doesn't matter if they are a 6 or a 10, they're just as sexy to me. Then the sexiest is whoever I'm with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:50 AM
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Honestly, I didn't really know what people meant when they say "real sex is not like porn" once I experienced sex for myself. Maybe the porn I watched isn't what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:06 AM
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What was the context of him saying that? What made that come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:03 AM
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I think you get just as much intimacy as long as you are somewhat equal and are both humble about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:02 AM
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It's easier said than done to do this, because sometimes what you're willing to sacrifice is still not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:08 AM
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I think face is more important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:50 AM
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I'm just saying that because like, so many girls have said "you're just not my type" like they're unique or something. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:49 AM
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It's true, because they have all the leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:03 AM
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Unfortunately, even when you get over the anxiety, there's a chance you get rejected 100s of times in a row. I had hope too that if I just started approaching, I would get laid left and right, but it didn't work like that. I would still recommend trying though. Try cold showers. The feeling of jumping into a cold shower can be a similar feeling to when you put one foot in front of the other and open your mouth in front of a woman. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:59 PM
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In my opinion you shouldn't identify with that which doesn't serve you. Even if you are somehow inherently shy. Don't identify as that. Just shut off the part of your mind that identifies with anything and let your presentation speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:58 PM
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You can't be if you aren't stereotyped as being good in bed to get in the door in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:54 PM
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Only if the woman sees you as the safe option and not the sex god she can only have for one night. It'd be best to be both, but being the sex god for her is the priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:21 PM
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It's more like, if you won't hire me to be manager, I won't work as a cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:00 PM
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Sometimes I just wave to people as I'm walking by on a path, and sometimes I get pissed off when people have an attitude and don't wave back. I'm not even trying to approach in that case, just say hello as I'm passing by. I know that other men have ruined that sort of thing for young women, but it's sorta self fulfilling when you put on a scowl that you're gonna get some guy come up trying to intimidate you. lol Like, at that point, the only men who are going to approach you are going to be thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:11 PM
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I agree, except for the fact that no, this will not give men an upper hand in the dating game. I would argue that it actually gives you even worse odds if you think being single is awesome, because you won't be motivated to put in the work necessary to get into a relationship or have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:07 PM
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When you say "You're just not my type." realize that you're not the only one who says that and that your type is probably more common than you think. You're not unique in that sense. Most women are looking for the same "type" of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:01 PM
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Yes, guys are boycotting relationships because they don't want the hookup guy's sloppy seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:00 PM
1

Well this is a specific case. It's obvious she has a motivation to say she's turned on by what she does. That makes more men tune in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:09 PM
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I think it's almost always anxiety, which is unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:09 PM
1

And pornstars moan in their films. That doesn't necessarily mean they're turned on. That's marketing on her part. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:06 PM
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I think the main skill needed from the starting point of a attractive sex haver is simply getting over the anxiety to approach. Sometimes those guys are content to stay as they are though since they already get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:05 PM
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That first couple of women would help him get over his shyness and then he'd be a monster. I'm not saying they'd teach him, but they'd tolerate him enough for him to get experience on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:03 PM
1

The man Bonnie Blue is fucking is not a man she's fucking for pleasure. She's doing it for pay basically from her audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:02 PM
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Yeah I would say that most rejection is a girl gives a guy her number and then just doesn't text back when he walks away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:23 PM
1

Yeah so hot to get rejected by 100s of women in a row and then want to kill yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:20 PM
1

The women I'm referring to don't openly advertise themselves as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:18 PM
2

Hehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:17 PM
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I think if he's good looking enough, the women will help him overcome his shyness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:15 PM
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A lot of women could organize a similar stunt without recording it and no one would know. I would actually say the negative image on the men is that they are willing to get with a girl who's getting ran through by all those other men. So it's like, they get secondhand reputation damage from the woman's damaged reputation. hahahaha With the ultimate ladies man, the implication is that he gets with women that are hard to get because he's so skilled; not because he's going after girls who bang ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:14 PM
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I was being dirty minded. Trains are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:07 PM
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Was the answer 0 for you? The point is, all the daughters are fucking somebody, and all of the sons aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:05 PM
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I do feel for you somewhat. Some men are super picky and will call different celebrities known for being attractive, mid. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:04 PM
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Most women could be if they popped open a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:02 PM
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Oh yeah, the answer is 0. For men when they aren't dating anyone that means the answer is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:02 PM
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Male athletes making hundreds of millions of dollars are basically celebrities. Most men aren't celebrities. She got arrested in Bali by the way. lol nice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:59 PM
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I'm saying I'm open to empathizing, but I'm not sure what from your comment you want empathy for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:58 PM
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Wait what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:57 PM
3

Wait, what kind of trains? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:55 PM
4

I think you just have to be born as an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:54 PM
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Do you know how hard it would be to fuck 10,000 women as a man? Unless you're some gigachad who never gets rejected, that would never happen even in men who are trying to make it happen. Women can probably make that happen Bonnie Blue style though. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:53 PM
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It's not a double standard because men and women have different levels of difficulty when it comes to getting past the barriers to entry for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:51 PM
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Whore is not a compliment because men will fuck anything that moves. Women won't fuck any man with a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:49 PM
2

So, what are we supposed to be empathizing with here? You didn't say anything bad that you went through.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:48 PM
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Your first serious relationship. How many flings did you have before that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:47 PM
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The answer is no they don't. Not consistently anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:46 PM
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Sex isn't hard to get for women in the age of sexual freedom. For men it's even harder because they get selected out by women all choosing the top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:45 PM
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Yeah, it's easy as an in-shape man to get with a 300lb woman from Tinder, but not an in-shape woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:45 PM
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It's because he's good looking. Nothing else. There's no skill involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:43 PM
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The first one takes effort and maybe 100s of approaches and the second one, it's just a matter of time before you get someone you want with zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:56 AM
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I agree with what you said. For the man the relevant part isn't that it's the woman's choice. For the man the relevant part is that he came inside the woman. The fact that it's a woman's choice because it's her body isn't the reason that the man should be held responsible. The reason the man should be responsible is that he creampied her. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:50 AM
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This makes the men incessantly picky, choosy, and opt for hookups and treat women like a carousel of options. This is life as a man except without the opportunity of sex. I would say maybe the thing here is that men will go for the nursing/hygienist bimbos IF that allows them to bag a better looking woman. I'm sure if a woman better looking than all the nurses/hygienists completed med school, they would go after her if she would be interested. The problem is that the med school good looking girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:36 PM
1

The argument against this is that all women are shallow but deny it. Or, at least more women than you think are shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:26 PM
1

You're somehow ignoring the fact that selfish women are the same ones that didn't swipe on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:20 PM
1

I think only the cool kids lose their virginity in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:35 AM
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That's how it's better than porn. I would say it's close enough like porn to me. Idk what people mean when they say it's not like porn tbh. Maybe I'm just not watching freaky enough porn. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:51 AM
1

I think losing your virginity at a young age is worthy of being called a stud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:49 AM
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What are you saying? When I'm attracted to a woman and approach her she must automatically like me back?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:47 AM
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I would say what you're describing represents two sides of the same coin. Men want sex early to show the girl likes him and have the potential to eject after that. Women want to withhold sex and receive gifts and free food and have the potential to eject before the sex happens. On one side or the other, there is compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:38 PM
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You imply it by saying there's a time limit on attraction. That assumes that a man must pursue a woman before the time limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:31 PM
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I think women will purposely mask their nonverbals and prefer to reject by simply avoiding that man and acting like they don't exist after the interaction. You will think a woman is into you based on the nice conversation you have, but then she will go ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:30 PM
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How do you explain women being attracted to celebrities when those celebrities aren't actively pursuing them since women are only truly attracted to men who pursue them somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:25 PM
2

I don't think they have to be ugly for this to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:38 PM
2

Idk I think sometimes a 7-8 might have a big crush on a gigachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:44 PM
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Women sometimes have crushes on men who friendzone them too though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:42 PM
1

For me the ego boost from getting sex with a woman is where it's at more than the physical pleasure of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:40 PM
1

Except you don't get to choose any girl you want, only the girls who choose you. Being able to approach any girl you want doesn't guarantee that you will get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:38 PM
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You make that sound like a good deal but isn't it better to have a choice among the guys who have approached you without even trying versus having to not know if a girl likes you before you approach her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:12 AM
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That narrows down who likes me, but it doesn't help me find who I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:47 AM
1

How come if I can passively gain attraction without her trying, she can't passively gain attraction towards me as we interact?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:37 AM
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Yeah I got my first kiss from her actually but it was sorta a pity kiss. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:36 AM
1

Same situation with feeling for somebody and then not finding anybody else you feel that way about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:44 AM
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That's good. I think you probably would have to advertise a little bit to get the attention people are talking about. You're not in a situation to do that though, being married. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:27 PM
4

and dating apps as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:22 PM
4

The ones who reject you don't see you as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:22 PM
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You can ask most girls "what's your number" and they'll give it to you, and then they simply won't text back. Do that after having a little bit of a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:20 PM
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Now I haven't felt as strongly about anyone since though. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:18 PM
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Let me ask you this. Do you even have social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:17 PM
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Idk it was in high school and I just wanted to have that girl and be done with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:05 PM
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Sometimes you get conditioned into this when you get rejected over and over. If you don't have a competitive drive, how else would you tolerate a bunch of rejections. After 10 you'd think, oh well maybe girls don't like me and I should quit. The competitive one would say "fuck those girls, I'm going to continue".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:01 PM
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this is what always brings me back because fuck you 55% of men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:55 PM
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Sex is awesome, but I would argue that the rejections are so brutal that it's just barely not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:54 PM
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I talked platonically to a girl for two years and then tried to ask her to be my gf and it didn't work out. That's why I'm opposed to doing that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:53 PM
1

I don't care about banning alcohol or smoking because I do neither of those. Those things are nothing like taking out your reproductive organs for the puppet masters like a good boy or girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:29 PM
1

I personally feel that the mindset has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:26 PM
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I think it starts to get to the point where the only ones who can get through their filters are very fluent manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:26 PM
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You can take my word for it. Transgender women's brains are physically bigger than biological female brains. I will bet you my entire net worth that transgender women are indistinguishable from a biological man if you only look at the surface, the surface of the internal organs, and the size of those. Was that the self-reported success rate? https://californiainsider.com/california-news/health/rates-of-suicide-attempts-doubled-after-gender-reassignment-surgery-5616167 Stuff like this is why I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:23 PM
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When they choose better, it seems they narrow in even more down on abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:19 PM
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I just don't like people calling me entitled, so I vote for the guy they don't like. Also I liked the idea that he was going to expose corruption, hang all the traitors, and send them to gitmo. But, that was sorta the undercurrent and never really explicitly promised. If he doesn't do that I will be disappointed and realize that the solution doesn't involve voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:18 PM
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Isn't this kinda a circlejerky post making it an ask bluepill post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:16 PM
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Exactly, I don't know why she thinks we aren't forced to be more assertive in that way. I would love if girls liked sex so much that you could just straight up ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:13 PM
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I actually think the more cautious approaches aren't justified even if things are somehow worse because it's simply the only way to do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:55 AM
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I would assume they don't function indistinguishably and it's more likely just a few things here and there just like how the brainwaves thing might be the only thing. Also, another thing about male brains is that they are bigger than female brains. I wouldn't necessarily say that means they function better or men are smarter for having bigger brains, but it's a reality. "Trans women" have bigger brains than cis women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:41 AM
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I'm still curious though. Does women pretending to be men go as far back as men pretending to be women? I have a feeling that men have been pretending to be women for longer. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:38 AM
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So brainwaves are thoughts? So, that study states that transgender women have the same thoughts that they are indeed women as biological women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:27 AM
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Maybe the same ones that make people believe in gender. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:24 AM
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Even a lot of ladyboys acknowledge they are ladyboys and not actual ladies. Actually, it's been much more prominent on the ladyboy side hasn't it? How far back does women pretending to be men go back in history?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:23 AM
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Imagine if we were in the middle of another cold war, which I think is very likely. Let's say that the enemy somehow convinces us all that committing suicide is the way to fight them because we need to fight them in the afterlife. People can think that something is the right thing to do, but it can be ultimately harmful. Cutting your dick off and changing your hormones isn't like getting a tattoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:21 AM
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Me personally, I think the only thing convincing them that they are the opposite sex is all the education out there on the topic of transgenderism. Let's they really do have something in their brain that tells them they are the opposite sex or a chromosome turned off. Why can't they see it in a more religious way in the sense that, yes they are a female spirit, but for this life, they get to experience what it's like to live in a male body as a female spirit. I don't know why people insist that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:18 AM
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So do you want men to ask "can I have sex with you" or do you want them to test boundaries and check the vibe?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:14 AM
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Has there been studies on the nature of these brainwaves independent of transgenderism? Are our thoughts brainwaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:11 AM
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I support people's free will, but I feel a moral obligation to point out that people are deceived in this regard. Just like the abused girl who won't leave her abusive boyfriend. Sure, she can live her life, but the way she's living is harmful to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:10 AM
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The problem is when she says "your mindset has no effect on me". Now what do you do? It is possible for her to put up a wall like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:06 AM
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What's even more meaningless than living life is living a life thinking that chopping your dick off is more purposeful than breeding. This is what your overlords want you to think. They want you to be useful eunuchs and depopulate the world the best they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:03 AM
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How do we know those brainwaves can't be manipulated on demand? What if they aren't a static thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:02 AM
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Yes, life is completely meaningless when you boil it down, but there are some things that are objective and those things are true regardless of whether you say they're true. You can look with your eyes and see with your ears and leave your mind quiet. Those things are real at least as far as our perception is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:59 AM
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Do you know how many body parts trans people are born with that are different from the norm? How many chromosome abnormalities are measured in trans people? How many genital abnormalities are measured in trans people? Excluding the brainwave study, is the brain size different in a trans person than their biological sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:56 AM
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I'm pretty sure there's also a study saying male and female brains aren't that different. Can you at least acknowledge that it's much easier to externally verify an intersex person because that is physical and apparent on the surface? Meanwhile, a trans person could very well just be making it up and there's no way to externally validate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:51 AM
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Where would you put a limit on your definition of an average couple. Like, which average couple is the hottest?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:48 AM
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If a schizo believes the government is gangstalking him and his neighbors car parked outside his house is a government vehicle, that doesn't suddenly make that true. It can be normal and as a result of cultural influences, but that doesn't mean that their delusions are real. The same can be said for somebody who believes in the idea of gender independent of biological sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:46 AM
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Since you need me to be really specific. A male has a penis without a vagina hole. A female has a vagina hole that when the male penis inserts itself inside of it, the cum can make a baby in a fertile woman. The only difference between a fertile woman and an infertile woman is that when the male penis cums inside the female vagina, no babies are made because something is wrong. However, there is still the outward appearance of a breedable female and no axe wounds in the place of where a vagina s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:42 AM
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It doesn't have to be Justin Bieber, but the point is good looking boy band musicians fill up arenas with girls who are probably willing to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:31 AM
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I'm just saying that this guy is not going to be this generations Justin Bieber if he ever pursues music. He won't attract a massive amount of women like he did in his prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:30 AM
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I just tried to find some male model dude. I'm sure there's some male model that would appeal to you more than the fishing guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:29 AM
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I feel like a lot of women and men are like this. We're designed to be attracted to those peak model tier people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:28 AM
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Exactly, but you're trying to say that these people get matches that they would be satisfied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:27 AM
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I'm just saying that people can get carried away trying to protect someone and end up overmedicating and harming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:25 AM
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I don't know why people don't have the intuition that I have to know that gender as it's described does not exist. Biological sex is what exists in physical reality. A psychologist should not be able to tell you to get a surgery because psychology is within the mind, and the mind can change on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:25 AM
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Those professionals are lying and they have been paid to certify lies. Transgenderism should be treated as a form of delusional schizophrenia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:23 AM
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Clearly most women are if we consider his fame and prominence. You should say not all women are looking for that. To say that most women aren't looking for that I would say is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:18 PM
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You don't have to be a massive 200+lbs and lean. Most people are going to be more lean around 150-160.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:17 PM
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If your child doesn't express that something is wrong and they need help, I wouldn't seek treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:15 PM
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Let me put it this way. Gender doesn't exist in the way people keep trying to define it. Biological sex is the only thing that should be mentioned. Back when I was a child, I remembered surveys would have "Gender/Sex" meaning they were interchangeable. Then suddenly people decided to make those two different words and I disagree with that. We do not need to discuss gender. We do not need to identify as a gender. We only need to acknowledge our biological sex because that is the only thing that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:11 PM
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I think he's a presentable guy. I just don't think he could be the next Justin Bieber which is basically what you have to be to get decent matches on Tinder. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:08 PM
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Yeah, but you also don't want to overmedicate them into a trance state.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:59 PM
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Infertile women still have eggs and infertile men still have sperm right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:56 PM
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<image> This guy? Making sure you're not getting him confused with one of the people talking in the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:51 PM
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They just need to go to the gym and get really lean and then post pictures of their shredded back and abs and they'll have a decent chance on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:50 PM
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One thing that's obviously not objective reality is the transgender surgery. They should not perform them until they can make a person into the opposite sex and capable of breeding as that sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:37 PM
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Yes. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? People wouldn't be trans if they didn't overly self reflect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:03 PM
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I'm not saying to have thoughtless zen all the time. I'm just saying that without thoughts and language nobody would think they are trans. It wouldn't be such a trendy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:00 PM
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There's not plenty of fat Americans that can date women they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:03 PM
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That's crazy. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:02 PM
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I just want people to be careful about forcing diagnoses and treatments on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:59 PM
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Ahh I guess you're right on that part, but I still feel like they don't even have to read the bio to immediately just look at this guy's face and then swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:58 PM
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That's not happening on Tinder though. Those couples most likely met in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:56 PM
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Even 100,000/2,000,000 would be a ton more than that guy given the same profile. Whenever I've made a male model tinder experiment, it seems like the only thing limiting me in the number of likes is simply the profiles being dead and not seeing my account. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:49 PM
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For sure, but some men who haven't put in that effort will see this comment and think that they're doomed. I think there are plenty of men like me who simply haven't tried hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:48 PM
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I can see how that can go wrong lol. What was the man's relationship to you and what was it that you wanted him to put away?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:47 PM
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I'm sure when Daniel Craig plays James Bond, you can probably check his brain patterns, and they are more like James Bond than Daniel Craig. Who's to say these brain patterns can't be impacted by the thoughts we choose to think? Just because trans milk works, doesn't mean that any random man couldn't be injected with the same hormones and have breast milk while identifying as a man. I think that people should accept the body that they are born in. You should strive to reach a thoughtless zen sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:00 PM
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Idk I think if you put an autistic person in with a bunch of cool kids, some of the cool aura would brush off on them and their autism would be less apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:45 PM
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Did she know it was a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:44 PM
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While this might be true for some men, I think there are men who have more potential than they realize. Like, me for example. When I was in college, I was a virgin until I turned 19. Eventually I did have sex with some women I found attractive, but it took a lot of mental energy to pull it all off. I can't be arsed to put in that effort all the time, but when I'm not, it can sometimes seem like I have no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:39 PM
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Not if they don't put themselves out there to every individual in the group. Women just have to exist and then this group manifests itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:35 PM
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I would say that someone who is able to filter through the bad ones and find the good ones has an advantage over someone who has no group to filter from. That's just me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:30 PM
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No, people found excuses to not call him ugly while ignoring the elephant in the room and creating a just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:27 PM
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This guy posing with the same fish and the same outfits would make the results go from at least 1.2k/2,000,000 to 1,000,000/2,000,000. It could be more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:25 PM
4

This guy fumbled by being born with balding genetics and being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:24 PM
3

You can reasonably assume that every single one of those commentators leans left and makes their videos catered to women and possibly gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:22 PM
3

People are delusional if they don't think that on Tinder the primary thing is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:17 PM
4

Do any of you think that guy is attractive looks wise? Have this guy pose with a fish and tell me how that goes: <image> You think this guy with that guy's profile would get the same results? You'd like to think so wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:16 PM
1

Yeah the core of a good looking person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:13 PM
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You're mistaken about American dating then. If you want a good looking girl on Tinder, you need to be a good looking guy who's in shape with a perfect male model face. Not all the videos said the word conservative, but you can reasonably infer that all of them are rejecting him for left leaning reasons. It doesn't even matter though because put that guy in a BLM shirt and LGBTQ+ rights shirt and he still wouldn't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:11 PM
1

You're an attractive man that's why. Also, he probably swiped on a bunch of bots and people out of his area if he swiped on 2 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:59 PM
3

That 1.2k could easily be all bots. If he's swiping right on 2 million women, he's using the passport feature. Probably 1199 of those women said and I quote "do you have S. C?" which is the bot's weird way of saying do you have snapchat to attempt to avoid bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:58 PM
0

Where does it say that in his profile besides him being ugly so you project negative traits on him to justify his ugliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:56 PM
0

Come on. This dude is fat and ugly. Just say that. You don't need to act like something he could have done could work. Nothing this guy does is going to work that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:56 PM
2

How does he make it clear he's not interested in what others are interested in besides being ugly so you put negative traits on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:55 PM
0

You would have to put a trans woman looking for "straight men" to match the level here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:54 PM
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Why are people completely ignoring the fact that he's fat and balding and hyper-focusing on the fact he's conservative? You think if he had a black lives matter shirt on, showed his vaccination status, supported LGBTQ+ rights, and showed his cuck chair in the corner of his room that he would somehow get anymore matches? All these tiktok stories are clearly appealing to women's just world fallacy that they disqualify men based on merit and not because they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 PM
1

Not because he chose her, but because she chose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:49 AM
0

lol do you think that works well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:41 AM
1

We disagree about what is harmful. I believe transgender surgery and hormone replacement therapy is harmful to that individual. It's harmful to society because it's the most obviously fake thing but so many people unironically believe it for some reason. At least with religion, there's this mysterious supernatural world that we don't have access to that can't really be proven or disproven. We know what living in a body with a mind is like. I've never identified as a man in my life. I just have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:24 AM
2

I wish we mass imported Chinese, and other east asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:13 AM
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We sympathize in different ways. I personally think that it is harmful to brainwash people into cutting their dick and balls off and making them think their schizophrenia gender delusions are valid but that's just me. I don't think if someone cuts themself that we should just let them because it doesn't harm anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:09 AM
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I'm sure there are 10/10 men out there that identify as average men. We can call them, trans average men. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:03 AM
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Progressives are a very loud minority that only exist on the internet. Hence, the 2024 election and the 2016 election. Progressives I would say are even worse in the falling victim to brainwashing department.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:01 AM
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I would probably move out anyway. I'm sure they would listen to you if you told them the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:58 AM
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The effort that most men are missing is existing while being a 10/10 in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:56 AM
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It's blatantly obvious to me that people are trans just because they declare they are, but there's this gaslighting going on to make people think that somehow there's some validity to declaring you are beyond the declaration. I'm fine with people accepting trans people, but anyone could declare themselves a trans person while not being one and no one would be able to tell the difference. The frustrating thing to me is that the so-called scientific community has been compromised to push transgend…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:54 AM
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Nothing that disqualifies men these days has to do with effort. That's the part where you're gaslighting. Men who are attractive these days are born with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:52 AM
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We live in countries though, and another country might see the US as ripe for the taking when none of the men care about protecting it. In fact, all this gender bs was probably by design by said countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:49 AM
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Transgenderism is such a deal breaker for me, because that's such a gaslighty thing. For me personaly, it's like constantly telling me that sometimes 2+2=5 when the professor says so. That throws me off from leaning left.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:48 AM
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Maybe you should think about it next time once we go to war and none of the men want to die for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:45 AM
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Yep, and it'll be even better when Russia or China comes to take over and everyone gets killed because the men don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:43 AM
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Also men don't want to fight for their country because I think a lot of them believe that pizzagate is real, or at least Jeffrey Epstein is real, and they don't know who to trust anymore because everyone in this country seems compromised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:41 AM
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Now it's like men don't gatekeep anything and it's impossible to have any leverage, so it's horrible to be in a relationship as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:38 AM
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Is that really true anymore? I have a hard time thinking there are that many studs at 17. The average 50th percentile man is not having sex in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:23 AM
0

I think it depends on what you define as misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:22 AM
1

This is what happened to me. RP told me about how women apparently all want relationships, but I ended up getting a bunch of one night stands and a few FWBs despite being willing to be in a relationship with those women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:17 AM
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This is why a lot of men quit dating, because they want to be that sexy guy. Every single one of them do. If they can't be that guy then women have nothing to offer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:16 AM
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The problem with nagging is when you're going to do something anyway so why ask again? Or like, as you're getting up to go do something, they ask you do to that thing that you're going to do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:03 AM
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I don't think that's the honest answer coming from the man. The man believes that he's about to dick you down and give you an orgasm. Not getting an orgasm might be what actually happens, but certainly his intentions weren't to leave you orgasmless if he could help it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:00 AM
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Isn't asking for water pretty clear? I don't think that's the best example. Sure, you could interpret more about the emotions of that circumstance, but the explicit task is stated, so seems easy enough. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:58 AM
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Well, at least in this case he was clear about wanting some water. That's the only thing you need to know and you can decide to get it for him or not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:55 AM
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I think most people understand these things, and the only miscommunication happening is, the girl doesn't want to fuck, and the guy does, and if he says he wants to fuck, the girl will say no. So, they're trying to find a backdoor into fucking somehow through this magical communication method that doesn't exist. It has nothing to do with being autistic and everything to do with trying to be a salesman to a person who is completely uninterested in the product that you are selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:54 AM
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What's the clear and respectful communication you're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:51 AM
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I wouldn't assume that your autism would be passed down. I feel like it depends on who you're socialized with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:47 AM
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One thing that shocked me was a girl talking about "guys' ability to pull". I was surprised to hear a girl use the word "pull" at the time. To me that's like a person at the car dealership telling the car salesman "good job, you scammed me on a deal".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:44 AM
1

Were you interested in dating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:42 AM
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I do. I feel like it's as common as being 6'0 is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:31 AM
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Does 7.5 fit your requirements? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:30 AM
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I don't know how people take Andrew Tate seriously. He's so goofy looking. I honestly don't think anyone does. I think most people see Andrew Tate as a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:49 AM
1

Why didn't you just refuse to drive him anywhere when he went in your car?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:44 AM
1

The guy that got into your car, did you ride home with him and then have sex, or are you saying he overpowered you in the car?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:40 AM
1

Well roofying your drink is obviously rape. The first one, the answer is to get out of the car and call for help. It doesn't matter how many times some big bodybulder gay dude that could overpower me asks me to have sex. I will cut his nuts off if I have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:39 AM
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I mean, little boys can be overpowered by women, but with grown men I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:36 AM
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I still don't understand. If there's some gay guy at the club who constantly asks me for sex, the answer will always be no because I'm straight. It doesn't matter if he's 6'3 300lbs and could overpower me if he wanted to, he's going to have to do that if he can because I will not willingly have sex with him no matter how many times he asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:35 AM
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I think people are only opposed to this being possible because they are conditioned to be opposed to the semantics of it. I think it is possible for you to be emotionally satisfied by a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:42 PM
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A better way to say it is that with a girl that really likes you, a little effort goes a long way. With a girl who doesn't like you, a lot of effort can get you nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:28 PM
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I feel like it's all semantics. You SHOULD fetishize your partner, because you should be sexually attracted to them. If they are sexually attractive to you, they have things that are sexually attractive about them. You aren't just sexually attracted to some vague formless mist that is them minus whatever traits they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 PM
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Who cares? You're getting sex out of the situation and that's better than not getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:06 PM
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You're personally attacking me by calling me incoherent so that's why I disengaged with you starting from the "no you" comment. Even if I specify, you will continue to badger and harass me and I would prefer that you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:28 PM
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By that logic, we can never know the whole person. We can only know what we see and think of them. I don't know what people mean when they think that someone's fetish means they can't still see someone as an individual living breathing person. If someone said "I bet you have a big dick" and generalized me for that, I would love that. I'm sure she'll get to know me and like me for other reasons, but being generalized as having a massive cock certainly will help me get in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:23 PM
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You're incoherent. You just badger. You dance around my question while acting like I'm dancing around yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:18 PM
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No you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:17 PM
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How many sexually stereotyped types of men do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:13 PM
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I feel like it's important to discuss this because this is the only place that tries to get to the bottom of what is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:09 PM
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Yeah, but it seems like if you're getting a steady stream of sex, one of those girls who likes you for stereotypes will like you for more than that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:08 PM
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Because specifying around this topic dances around rule 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:07 PM
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Those weren't exactly the traits I was thinking of. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:02 PM
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It shocks me when I see guys who claim to be fetishized who aren't loving every minute of it. Why wouldn't you want to be stereotyped for having a big dick you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:00 PM
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Ok lets say it's not the father, but other men. Have you ever seen having sex with a certain guy as an f u moment to another man or society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:59 PM
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That redpill moment is more of a debunking of the just world fallacy. You would think if a guy is otherwise a good guy, that he should have good things happen to him in life. At least, you'd hope that in a just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:57 PM
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To put it in a different way, do you think women are sexually driven by rebellion? Like, if there's a man who women feel that their father wouldn't like them dating, do you think they're more likely to have sex with that guy to rebel against their father?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:54 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:23 PM
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Define reproductive rights and bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:23 PM
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I'm not sure if we do. I'm saying that men should probably not be allowed to opt out of parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:32 AM
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The world's strongest female armwrestler can beat a lot of men. I think a lot of male armwrestlers acknowledge this and are okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:28 PM
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I'm with the women on this simply because I think sex is not something a man gets into on accident and neither is creampieing said woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:23 PM
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You have the bodily autonomy to not creampie everything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:20 PM
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I'm with women on this, but I don't like the explanation that pregnancy happens in the woman's body because I don't think it's a fair explanation. I think it's easier to say that men shouldn't be allowed to go around creampieing everything recklessly and be able to simply opt out of parenthood. I think this is a better reason and that the "well it's the woman's body so it's her choice" creates resentment in men because it becomes this thing that they can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:19 PM
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That was a funny exchange tho. What sport does he do? Several sports... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:11 PM
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I think you're confusing what the puppet masters intend for someone having a point of view, versus the point of view of the person who gobbles up what the puppet masters tell them to think. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:09 PM
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Maybe she was just using sex to win your favor back lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:07 PM
1

Yeah looks like a boy to me. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:59 PM
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That kinda looks like a little boy to me. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:59 PM
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I would say that's when red pillers concede to the black pill. Pure red pill is more of a personality based thing and a philosophical system of how you should act and not act to get women. Also, go to the gym and get muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:45 PM
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I actually think red pill wants to believe their brand of personality matters more than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:28 AM
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You're thinking about this wrong. Women are too socially savvy to fall for your scheming. You have to have something they inherently want, like being a gigachad for example, to actually convince them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:23 AM
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I'm saying you should be friends with someone who wants to fuck you if you don't want to fuck them. There should be a mutual feeling of not wanting to fuck or a mutual feeling of wanting to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:16 AM
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I've found these days that it's easier to sell women on casual sex than it is on a relationship. Both are difficult if you aren't gigachad and ripping the space time continuum with your good looks, but women be hoes lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:14 AM
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I don't think it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:54 AM
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Both people should agree whether or not they want to fuck. There shouldn't be one person who would fuck if given the chance and one that wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:49 AM
1

Well, a belligerent citizen certainly deserves it more than a peaceful man minding his business walking down the street right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:45 AM
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Well, to bring up another example where FAFO was used. A lot of people said Charlie Kirk FAFO'd. So, it's not always used in a completely morally sound way. It's always biased depending on what side you're speaking from. I'm not a big Charlie fan either because I feel like he was simply accepting donations to be a mindless mouthpiece. I think she should have complied, and he didn't necessarily have to shoot her because he was only hit by the edge of her car. However, I'm biased against sassy pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:36 PM
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Are you raping somebody if you shoot somebody who tries to run you over in a fit of rage? Forget about the context of good guy bad guy police officer and such. Just think about two random people in the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:19 PM
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Part of fucking around and finding out is that you don't get to decide what it is that you find out. She went against the rules, but you want the officer to play perfectly within the rules. That's not always how it works. Hitting a person with your car in general could easily spin them into a rage where they end up shooting you. Forget about it even being a police officer. Obviously, the person who shoots someone in a rage should get in trouble, but you can't say that's not a relatable feeling i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:17 PM
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I just don't think there can be a genuine friendship if you ignore any aspect of someone. Also, I feel like a sexual relationship between men and women is built on a certain level of mutual respect since they see each other as being on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:10 PM
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Well, she didn't accept the consequences of interfering with the laws she disagreed with because she tried to flee. She did actually hit him with her car. Would you not be angry if someone hit you with their car?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:46 PM
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Lesbians are exempt from this rule by me. I think most heterosexual or bisexual women who don't want to fuck a man, are in a way, disgusted to think that man even has a sex drive. So, there's a subtle disrespect going on in not seeing that man as good enough to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:38 PM
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Are you not hearing what I'm saying though? I think the ICE agent should probably get in trouble. That doesn't mean that Renee Good isn't partially responsible for her own death. Two things could have been done by her that would have saved her life. She could have not been there in the first place protesting. Secondly, she could have gotten out of her vehicle to get arrested instead of trying to flee. You can't act like federal officers killing me for no reason is comparable to someone getting s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:33 PM
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It's kinda hard to charge her with anything when she won't get out of her car and nearly runs over an officer in her attempt to escape. I sorta agree that the shooting wasn't necessary given the circumstances. I don't think the ICE agent's life was in danger, but I also don't think Renee Good is completely blameless for putting herself in harm's way. She wasn't just walking down the sidewalk, minding her business, and an ICE agent shot her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 PM
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The idea is that you should want to fuck us, and when you've emptied our balls, then we can go do romantic stuff and explore the world together until we become horny again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:02 PM
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If you were doing it as part of your vetting for relationships, was there not a single guy who you had sex with who you decided to not go ahead with? In that case, wouldn't that be considered a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:54 PM
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One thing I'll argue with you about is the woman you think is hot, could easily be a model. So, as much as you think women are going after Chads, we're also going for women who could be models if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:49 PM
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It is a waste of time, but it's a necessary waste of time if you want to be with a woman. No amount of you doing nothing is going to make women chase you. Even with most men doing nothing, I don't think women would chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:46 PM
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It's not women's responsibility. It's just that some random woman will probably like a radicalized guy back, not knowing that he was radicalized, and then he will put all his radicalized thoughts away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:41 PM
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I would argue that when women don't want to fuck a man, they don't see that man as a person. They see you as a convenient little friend toy to meet all her friendly needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:38 PM
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I'm not saying it is, and it shouldn't necessarily be, but in this case it was, and it was easily avoidable by not doing that. Maybe she should have went and taken her dog on a walk that day instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:32 PM
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I meant that more as in, seeing women as a person is not sufficient. lol Ultimately, a man can play the "I see you as a person" game all he wants, but there must be a mutually agreed upon decision to have sex. Seeing a woman as a person doesn't make convincing her to have sex with you any easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:35 AM
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Even that shouldn't be hard. Idk, I've been through a lot in my life. I wouldn't want anyone to be overwhelmed, but I've been overwhelmed my whole life and I just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:32 AM
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I don't think you have a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:20 AM
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I just don't think any of the absolutely necessary chores are that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:17 AM
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If we be real, none of the typical day to day chores are actually hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:16 AM
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I think even radical guys can be quickly deradicalized by one non-rejection. When they get accepted, they'll be like, oh wait maybe everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:15 AM
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Simply look at all the female yapping that is a natural response to all of those things you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:11 AM
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I will say that I think shooting that person was unnecessary, but them blocking federal agents from doing their jobs was also unnecessary. People seem to ignore that sometimes they do deport actual criminals and child molesters. I think the ICE agent should get in trouble, but at the same time, I think Renee Good fucked around and found out. Quit yapping and blocking federal agents from deporting people. If you don't do that, you won't end up in a situation where you accidentally almost run over…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 AM
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This all sounds nice, but it's not how it is. Sure, if you see a woman as a person, you'll have a nice conversation with them. Ultimately though, you want something from them, which puts a certain demand on them. This could either be sex or a relationship, and this feeling of wanting something out of the interaction will always create tension. It doesn't matter what your underlying beliefs are. It's all about is she willing to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:01 AM
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His voice makes him sound special, but his looks are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:58 AM
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Mowing the lawn is nothing compared to cooking and throwing the laundry in the laundry machine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:44 AM
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I don't understand how women are so attuned to that stuff. Like surely I should be able to get away with it at least sometimes. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:27 AM
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You just sound more like a red pill or black pilled man reciting those beliefs the way you phrase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:26 AM
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For me it's simply a mind fuck. I don't know how to find the balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:14 AM
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Well most men don't have that happening to them even when they play it cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:11 AM
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You can say "fucking" all you want, but it's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:09 AM
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Has this happened all your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:07 AM
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I don't think I have anything besides that energy to give. Otherwise, I just don't care and am not invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:05 AM
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I have a really hard time not being black and white in this regard. I'm either all the way in or all the way out. I get nervous approaching a girl, so I kinda need to make up this scenario in my head of like "omg this could be the love of my life and I'm missing my chance" otherwise the situation doesn't seem catastrophic enough to justify overcoming that fear if that makes sense. I couldn't imagine just casually rolling up to someone and caring just enough to hit the balance you're talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:02 AM
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Hey man, she's basically agreeing with you so idk what you're getting so mad about. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:57 AM
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Then the question becomes, what do you get out of doing this hot and cold game from a woman if you can never truly get what you want out of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:56 AM
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I don't think you're wrong, but I also don't think you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:55 AM
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I think 10 years is reasonable. 15+ is a little much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:21 PM
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Either your ego gets hung up on it, or your ego gets spun up into this holier than thou fantasy about "oh well I pity her, even though I was the one unfortunate enough to get rejected". Maybe her life is just fine and not something to pity but she's simply mean to people she rejects. Maybe she's decided that it's the only way men take no for an answer. It seems women here all the time say stuff about that. In her eyes, there was something wrong with you. You can decide whether that's correct or …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:05 PM
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Ok yeah this person is not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:30 PM
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For me, seeing her as an asshole begets revenge. Except, this is how you get those "nice guys" flinging abuse at people post rejection. It's so unsatisfying, if you're suggesting I view them as an asshole, to do nothing about it except for exactly what they want which is to be away from them and not interfering with their life. Does that make sense? All that defiance is petty if I'm walking in a direction that they would prefer me to walk anyways. Why would I do exactly what the asshole wants me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:26 PM
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I think there are women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:19 PM
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You can't expect a woman to sit around and wait for you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:12 PM
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I was gonna say, she's pretty based for a woman. I hope she is. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:06 PM
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I'm not saying the person isn't an asshole for doing that, but all it would have taken is for them to not do that and accept his advances, and all of a sudden, they wouldn't be a bullet dodged. Yeah, and not being around her is exactly what SHE wants, so you're not exactly doing anything by thinking that you dodged a bullet with her. The bullet wasn't coming at you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:02 PM
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I think it's really great that you were nice to these women, and you're probably coming off of a high of getting those 3 numbers, but have to been able to follow up with those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:06 AM
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That's not what I saw when I was in high school and ready to just have one relationship and be done with it. Seems that high school girls wanted to be hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:52 PM
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Yeah, 1 man for every 10 women probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:50 PM
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I feel like it depends on how much the kids look like the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:42 PM
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Let's say it does increase your chances by some random amount, but unfortunately, I'm unlucky and get rejected three times in a row. What am I supposed to do, keep throwing my entire heart into each woman I try to pursue? How can I genuinely do that without either destroying myself or gradually feeling less and less attached due to the expectation of rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:57 AM
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I think there's nuance to this. I can objectively acknowledge that there are hotter women out there, but those hotter women might not vibe with me, so it doesn't really matter, and their hotness is basically just a mirage. I can't wait around hoping to stumble upon a perfect 10 celebrity millionaire woman when I'm not in that league.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:48 AM
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How come you're willing to minimize the consent of the worker but not apply the same reasoning to the consent of a woman? Imagine if a man said that if a woman isn't having sex then she isn't doing her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:55 PM
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Yeah. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:29 PM
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I definitely think being the best woman is respectable, but there's something about chasing the absolute peak that's really appealing to people. Like, imagine having the world record in a lift and no other human on earth can lift that. Whereas, if it's the women's world record, other men can lift it. It doesn't take away from what the women do, but there's just naturally a bigger significance to doing something no one else on earth can do vs what no one else of your gender can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:53 PM
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It's what I did at 19 when I realized that I was going to have a hard time doing things the way everyone else does. I can't imagine making it to 26 and not doing that. Just lose your virginity that way and then try to work your way up the scale for free starting from obese women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:47 PM
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Well, it requires the consent of the person working there to make it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:45 PM
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I think some blue pillers who harp against red pill are more red pilled than the red pill guys. Like, some red piller will be arguing something and hoping for a genuine back and forth without any one-upping tactics, and the blue pilled guy will be "holding frame" and flinging abuse at him. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:59 PM
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I would argue that the perception that black men have big dicks is enough for women with a BBC fetish to play pretend with an average 5.5-6 inch black dick. Meanwhile, some white dude with a 7.5 incher like me, won't have the same allure. Like, black men with little dicks probably get laid simply from women wanting to find out if the rumor is true, and then rather than back out when they see it's small and normal, they're just like, well... I guess I'm here already, so I'll just go ahead. lol Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:57 PM
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I would argue that there are a lot of dumb neanderthal abusive men who end up doing RP tactics naturally who are technically in "blue pill" relationships by that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:58 PM
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It creates infinitely more casual sex, and I would doubt if it doesn't create more relationships than WMAF at least when you confine things to the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:52 PM
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Jeffrey Epstein had the democrats and republicans in his back pocket. Some even say that Ghislaine Maxwell had an account here and posted on the world news subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:17 PM
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The only true purpose these days is exposing the truth of the corrupt world we live in, and not a lot of people are in the position to do so. Everyone knows it's bad, but not many people have access to first-hand knowledge to confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:53 AM
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That's what's so great. Even if the great replacement ideas are true, the organizers of it will ultimately reap what they sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:44 AM
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Being a strong man is not some magic solution that makes you get all the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:40 AM
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You can say that, but you're lying, because why does it even matter if he's not your type looks-wise as you said in the previous comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:38 AM
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Why would it matter if it's a turn off for you? That's like saying "I'm not fired, I quit!" after your boss fires you. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:07 AM
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You can replicate that position for 8 minutes, yes. I'm a completely sober man not mid-overdose, so I will live. Also, I won't tell you I can't breathe before I'm on the ground, because I breathe just fine, so I'm sure that will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:03 AM
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I mean, yeah you could always devalue the idea of having sex in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:19 AM
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I honestly don't think Asian women are any easier assuming they're born in the US. I know from experience. lol In fact, Asian women are pretty quick to ghost you if you start to get fetishy about their race. It's rare to find an Asian girl who's down to be like "oh yeah I love white men and their big pps". You'll only see them saying crazy stuff like that in porn. I think any advantage that you perceive white men getting with Asian women is simply the fact that there are more white men in the US…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:17 AM
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Well, no I'm talking about a guy who is your type looks-wise. Assuming he didn't get overly horny, would you possibly be down if he started with saying he wanted to study?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:22 PM
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Let's say they toned it down on the horny jokes and played it cooler. If they started with wanting to study with you and played their cards right, would they have a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:53 PM
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I'm not sure what you're arguing against here. When have you ever heard of someone getting some quick pussy? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:52 PM
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Is there some miraculous situation where that would work if the guy was good looking enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:51 PM
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As I said, it's easier for you because you have a pool of horny men to choose instead who have lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:46 PM
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In my opinion, not being honest with a stranger opens up the opportunity to justify in your mind not being honest to a non-stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:18 PM
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I'm just saying men are easier than women. Not calling you a whore. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:14 PM
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I think this difficulty you perceive is just an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:13 PM
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I think it's more that after being demonized for sexual desires, which I think they shouldn't, they try to make their struggle out to be something that is more morally correct in the ears of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:10 PM
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I think male loneliness is just a nice way to say that men lament over not being able to get laid. I don't think men mind being alone that much. It's just that some of them will cry and whimper and complain about "loneliness" when they're trying to get sympathy for being unable to get laid. "Loneliness" frames it in a more relatable way rather than saying "waahh waaah why can't I be balls deep in a woman right now?". Nobody would empathize or sympathize with them if they put it that way. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:31 PM
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I don't think the part about her being 5'8 is what takes her over the hill though. lol Take some super cute 5'0 girl who looks like that from behind and I bet a bunch of dudes would go for that over the 5'8 girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:27 PM
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Someone once put my phone number on craigslist as a prank saying I wanted to lose my butt virginity, and I had a bunch of dudes hitting up my phone. There weren't even any pictures of me on the post. Gay dudes seem super easy for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:25 PM
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As Dave Chappelle said, men will be happy living in a cardboard box if they can get pussy. That FWB relationship with a 22 year old overshadows every possible life condition. Hey, as long as I'm healthy, can afford food and some semblance of shelter, and that condition is met, everything is good. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:19 PM
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It's probably easier for you to not be grumpy because you have the flip side of having infinite male options who are just as horny as you. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:15 PM
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So, you don't consider men and women being at each other's throats being an equal problem? I don't think "opposite race" peoples are truly at each other's throats if you're a normal person. Sure, they might disagree on George Floyd being a completely blameless martyr, but that doesn't mean that normal people don't try to avoid all that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:14 PM
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Well, to be fair I had to try so hard that I would think many men would quit before they put as much effort in as I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:05 PM
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The thing is, these days they don't have to be ugly enough to be put in the same category as mentally challenged. You can just be mid as a man and it's over these days. An equally ugly woman has the potential to put on makeup and be so good at it that she becomes instagram model level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:01 PM
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The difference, assuming you're loyal to your boyfriend and not simply waiting for Chad to come along regardless of if you have a boyfriend, is that being loyal is respectable. Being loyal to a non-existent man is just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:00 PM
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Yeah, but it's much more respectable if you actually have a boyfriend and you're staying loyal versus if you just lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:59 PM
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You could just say "I'm sorry, I'm not looking right now." instead. I guess that might still be a lie most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:57 PM
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You know what, yeah, I guess you could. If you lied about having a boyfriend, and the man finds out, what other reason does he have to think that he's been rejected? You didn't say you weren't interested. I guess you'll just have to say you're not interested the next time he comes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:54 PM
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true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:49 PM
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Because you could be having sex with women a whole lot easier. I guess it's easy for you to say if you're bi. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:49 PM
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In order for men to cheat, there would have to be women having casual sex, so therefore monogamy was not enforced for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:47 PM
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I guess I could see that if you're shorter than the 5'8 girl, but I feel like even tall guys are competing for super short women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:46 PM
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I feel like even taller guys like super short women though. As long as you're taller than them you can probably get that 5'8 girl assuming all other conditions are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:45 PM
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Well, there's some men that can be the most positive men in the world, and yet it doesn't help because they were born with a face that's not attractive to women. I don't think I'm a guy that's that doomed, but I know they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:14 AM
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One problem you might not be thinking about is that there will be no motivation to fight this if there's no social cohesion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:12 AM
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There's a difference between the "I have a boyfriend" excuse and it being a lie, versus it being the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:11 AM
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I've scored plenty of times as a 6/10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:09 AM
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Unless you're him, Chaddius Maximus, why wouldn't you be grumpy about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:08 AM
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I would think the 5'4 cute face ginger would have steeper competition than the 5'8 blonde cardio bunny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:06 AM
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On the other hand, it's very therapeutic to see all of those consequences, and do the scary thing anyway. If you decide that approaching women is a hill you're willing to die on, fuck what other people say. Just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:03 AM
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To me, women banging with higher quality men gives me the same ick that this woman is getting from the idea of her future man banging 50 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:59 AM
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Hmm, well to use the same argument that women use against the idea that a small group of men could be doing all the fucking, couldn't you say that in order for men to do that, there have to be women servicing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:57 AM
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They comment above said "women may bang hotter".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:56 AM
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I was kinda being ironic with my "this but unironically" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:54 AM
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This but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:30 PM
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Nah AI wouldn't write this. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:00 PM
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Women can only have sex with me. Anything else is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:59 PM
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Some men's standards are ridiculous to the point you wonder what they look like. I saw a YouTube comment section calling Sydney Sweeney mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:58 PM
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It's a pretty big turn off to think that "women bang hotter men" and then settle for me. It incentivizes men to be the one who gets banged and thrown away because at least there's genuine attraction there rather than being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:57 PM
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The only problem I have with this reply is the end where you say the problem is men not viewing women as equals. You could end this with "now we go after the hottest men we can get" and I would be fully onboard, but you moralizing it at the end falls into the same reasoning OP is using. Like "Ohhh all the good men simply changed their perspective and now they have infinite pussy! It's not because they have the physical features in the face that women want and simply tell women what they want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:51 PM
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You can think you're being objective all you want and that there's evolutionary psychology behind this or that, but the reality is just that you simply found a girlfriend who likes you. You don't have to complicate it more than that. You don't have to frame it so dark to say, "people want the best they can get". That's true of everyone man or woman. I'm sure every yoga pants booty you see leaves a footprint on you of "what could have been".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:37 PM
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I'm gonna say something interesting here. I don't think anyone goes from zero attention to lots of attention. I think what really happens is that person gets attention one time, and all of a sudden, they think they're enlightened and know everything they need to do to get that success again but haven't tried again yet. Then they have this disillusionment about all those "dark" things that they think helped them, when in reality they probably just got lucky with a girl who was attracted to them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:28 PM
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Ghosting is rejection though. There's no way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:18 PM
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No, it's you that couldn't handle their response. Getting ghosted from the ghosted person's perspective is just as bad as getting that message.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:17 PM
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Women, and I mean females, have a lot of deescalation strategies when it comes to men. That includes pretending to like someone for as long as they need to get away from that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:13 PM
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Are you saying the enlightened thing is to be a cuck and love a woman who doesn't have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:00 PM
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What made you think he was red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:28 AM
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Oh ok well that's logical of him. Can you see how not wanting to be a doormat can lead someone to the red pill tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:11 AM
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I'm just stating what the philosophy of RP is. It's kinda like the male version of "don't be a doormat" sort of advice. It honestly should kill your attraction if he makes it known that he's a red piller. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:47 AM
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It depends on your definition of asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:40 PM
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I disagree. One of the major tenets of RP is not getting turned into a beta bux by women and being the alpha guy they want to fuck. RP philosophy almost entirely revolves around not being a doormat and making sure your partner is actually attracted to you and advocating for your own sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:39 PM
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Because not wanting to be doormats is what made them abusive in the first place. You need to find someone who doesn't live in that dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:42 PM
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I might flip this around and say that consistent access to sex is essential to the relationship. Everything else can be negotiated. I can make friends with just about anyone if I really set my mind to it. The difference between a friend and a relationship partner is the access to sex. So, the friendly part is never usually the barrier to entry for me. Also, it's a lot easier to make friends and have goodwill towards someone who wants to have sex with you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:21 PM
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Sometimes I think the difference between success and failure is your willingness to be a loudmouth asshole versus a shy guy. If you can run your mouth, women seem to like that a lot. The same guy as an asshole will have more success. That's why it's hard for me to say if it's truly a league thing, or if it's a willingness or lack of willingness to be an asshole in the way women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:08 PM
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I would say an average man is lucky if he has a 1/100 rate of success at cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:06 PM
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There's a YouTube video out there of a social experiment where a girl asks a bunch of dudes straight up if they want to have sex, and then a guy does the same with girls. Nearly all the dudes said yes. I don't think there was a single woman that said yes to the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:59 PM
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Yeah I'm sorry man. I'm really more frustrated that the girl is like "oh my gosssshh that's so sadddd" when she'll probably be completely indifferent to the struggles of a single man unable to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:57 PM
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Rejection hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:10 AM
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Even in the best case scenario, rejection hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:10 AM
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That's kinda nice that you acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:07 AM
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You gotta be careful with that experiment because a man will think you're actually into him and think "hell yeah". lol Coming from our place of relative physical strength, women can say all sorts of nasty things but it's kinda like "yeah yeah yeah". We would take a million ass slaps and nasty comments about how sexy we are if it meant we could have infinite sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:05 AM
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It's not as much as you might think to sustain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:59 AM
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Honestly, it's not that bad to be single. There is no overwhelming biological imperative. It's an ego imperative to say "me get hot women look at how cool I am!". Beyond that there's no strong drive to do all the stuff you have to do to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:02 PM
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That 30% or 40% of men will retire at the first sign of enough savings to live off the stock market and not contribute anything to society beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:58 PM
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Getting married is a serious commitment, and you should commit to someone you have complete faith and trust in. If you think when they leave you, they'll leave you on the side of the road begging for money, then you shouldn't be married to that person. You shouldn't be married at all if you have one foot out the door and are poised to leave at the first minor disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:55 PM
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It's not really a point of failure if you get a low paying job afterward. It's less free because you have to do way more work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:52 PM
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You don't need to be making mega money to live free unless if you like to buy a whole bunch of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:24 PM
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I think this goes both ways across genders, but guys will take for granted how much they're attracted to a girl's personality, and girls will take for granted a certain level of looks threshold to even consider you a dateable human.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:22 PM
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Just like how incels are told "well why don't you get with the fat girls?" the same thing applies here in, why don't you get with the job that will hire you? Like, sure you're not going to be making that much, but you have to get in where you can get in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:20 PM
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People who complain about their boss are probably even more common than people who complain about their spouse. The fact that the boss is freeing you from this "dependence" on your spouse is how you're dependent on him. We're all dependent on this system and unless we're super prepared for doomsday, we rely on all sorts of people to make the food for us to eat. I just don't see why being dependent on your husband is so bad. Like, you prepare for your relationship to end, but you don't prepare fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:32 PM
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I feel like you can find a job somewhere if you just be honest with them about your recent divorce and how you were a stay at home mom for all that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:23 PM
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I mean, it's true. She wouldn't have applauded him if he had expressed his relationship struggles. She applauded him for a humble brag about how much of a stud he is that he gets all the ladies at the country club and acted like it was such an act of vulnerability. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:20 PM
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It might feel like a proper comparison to tell men to compare it to a gay man coming after them, but it's really not. Maybe it's comparable on the level of disgust scale you feel for unattractive men, but it's not comparable on, would I bang the same caliber of woman as a man you think is completely disgusting if they were eager? It's kinda like if you can barely handle spicy food, and you tell me that I have to try a ghost pepper to understand your suffering when you try the spicy chicken sandw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:16 PM
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You think an average guy would get beautiful girl matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:03 PM
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The solution is to kill the red pill with kindness. Show your partner that you love them and they don't need any of that silly red pill ideology to woo you by having sex with them frequently and being a good friend to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:11 AM
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What do you want to build? For who?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:08 AM
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But you aren't a slave to your husband because you'd be working for someone you actually like rather than some asshole boss. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:07 AM
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I'm sure that will make the kids feel great to be shooed off to daycare every day and totally won't make them feel like a waste of space.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:50 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:48 AM
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You're even less on call at home if your husband is at work all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:47 AM
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Does it really give you independence? If it wasn't for that job, you wouldn't be able to live. Even across multiple jobs, you're still a slave to the job market. If your husband goes to work, you have all day to pursue your hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:46 AM
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If you had the option to just make money off the stock market and do whatever you want, would you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:44 AM
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Even if you take today, I don't understand why women think having a boss is more free than being a stay at home mother with a husband who works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:01 AM
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I actually think that for whatever reason, women are more convinced by men who don't mean it than they are by men who mean it when they say they will give them the world. It's like they sense a certain insecurity in a guy who really wants to do that much for them, and when they can tell the guy doesn't fully mean it or is saying it just to flirt, then they perceive that guy as confident. They want you to have the shell of sincerity but the internal workings of somebody who's self-aware enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:54 PM
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It's not just being open and sharing his experiences. It's a humble brag. Applaud a man for admitting something that makes him look like a pathetic loser then I will be impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:46 PM
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I just have the feeling there's some element of realness to this, and some element of joke. Like, a thousand matches has to be hyperbole, so it makes it seem like a joke, but other parts of the comment make me think they actually believe that an average guy would get a decent amount of matches like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:42 PM
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One thing is you have to separate the gropers from the men in your life who support you and don't harm you. You should treat them like a different species because they kinda are. Judge everyone by their individual characteristics and don't just assume they are like those cat calling dudes. You can support a lonely guy, because he probably doesn't do anything the super creepy dudes do like telling a 13 year old they have a nice ass. Most lonely dudes don't have the audacity to do that. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:38 PM
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You should say what if Ghislaine Maxwell groped you, because Diddy is not an equivalent experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:32 PM
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This is what women mean by they want men to be emotional. They want Chad to express "oh boo hoo, I get too many women... waaaah waaah". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:30 PM
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I would be fine with this as long as it led to me bringing her back to my bedroom and getting sex out of it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:28 PM
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The only time I feel disappointed is when I'm not seen as the exclusive warm body to fuck. Only being her warm body to fuck for one night rather than consistently can feel bad I guess. Still, for me it's like, jokes on her I had sex. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:27 PM
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Being sexually attractive is validating to masculinity. It's a matter of existing as a feminine woman for women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:25 PM
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This is a case of grass is greener on the other side. Whatever you feel comes easier, you take for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:23 PM
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No they don't. They don't need to approach. They can just wait for a man who wants them to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:37 PM
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They don't deal with rejection in the way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:11 PM
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I think having a good looking face allows you to develop a good personality. Ugly guys will still get shot down way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:13 PM
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You could argue that all scientific literature is completely compromised by rich billionaires who rig the studies. You could argue that the news is paid off by those same people. You could argue that every avenue where evidence could be found of something is compromised in that way. You can never know something for sure if you don't see it with your own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:11 PM
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I think face is weighted over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:08 PM
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If you've never seen cocaine with your own eyes, how do you know it's real?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:07 PM
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Even the guys who are insecure about hair, I don't think it matters if you have a good looking face. You can be bald and good looking too. I think pretty much everything gets overruled by a good looking face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:05 PM
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Because rejection is frustrating especially if you have to go through it 100s of times if you're being selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:04 PM
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That's why if I have to side with one, I'm siding with the face matters more than height crew. I think if you're at least a 5'7 guy, you can pull if you look good in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:02 PM
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I was just responding to what the OP comment said which was that you'd get thousands of matches with beautiful women in days. Good luck as an average dude getting even 1 match with a girl who's not morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:59 PM
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You're ignoring the fact that you cast a very small net and still manage to pull. A lot of guys can cast a very wide net and still get nothing. An average dude who's in shape can be forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel just because his face isn't peak. You're zooming in on a super small percentage of women and then saying "most women don't like me" but if you swiped right every time, your match percentage would probably be over 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:57 PM
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You have to be an extremely high quality man to get matches with good looking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:51 PM
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This is a different topic, but do you ever notice that guys in that 5'7-5'9 range sometimes have better looking faces than guys who are taller? It's almost like there's a tradeoff whether all that testosterone goes to your face or height and guys who are good looking AND tall are rare. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:49 PM
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What personal evidence do you have other than relying on other people's testimonies that the cartel exists? Have you seen anything with your own eyes to suggest that they exist? How do you know the drugs come from them? It could just come from the drug fairy. You don't know. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:47 PM
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How many of those babies are birthed by mothers who aren't obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:41 PM
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You do not live in the real world. You get a match 22% of the time on the 3% of people that you swipe on. You are an anomaly. You aren't the average man. Everyone always wants to think their success comes from their own merit and that they're average, but you are not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:40 PM
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How many fit men have to resort to fat women if they want matches if they have a mid face do you think? I think it's quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:38 PM
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22% is a very good rate especially if you're only swiping right 3% of the time. You're getting 22% of your personal top 3% which is ridiculous. You could almost say that the 78% is simply too overwhelmed with matches to see you or they're inactive. You're a gigachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:36 PM
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Hold on a second. The moment you say "the top male in the entire area was not tall" doesn't mean every 5'8-5'9 guy in the area can pull off what this guy did. He's a top male for a reason and it's not just because of his good photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:29 PM
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Do you actually think this would work to the extent of, thousands of matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:28 PM
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This is a joke, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:24 PM
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Do you believe that the cartel is still in operation? How about the mafia? How come you don't hand those people over to the police then since you simply having a hunch that they still exist must mean that you have all the evidence to hand them over to the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:16 PM
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Even the concept of white privilege creates the same vibe that Germans were given around Jews during the holocaust. "Look at these privileged people who control everything! That's not right!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:58 PM
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The point is all the proof of it will not be convincing to you anyway if you don't see the culture as pushing things in that direction. The cocaine thing is an entirely different thing, but it does make you wonder about why he pardons all those cocaine traffickers right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:31 AM
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It's because you're hot and charismatic and capable of cheating. You could not cheat and be morally upstanding and things would probably be mostly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:58 PM
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Yeah, but for the sake of the man, he should not get scammed for his entire net worth over a girl who's not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:56 PM
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What do you think all of those cocaine pardons mean? Like even as a non-conspiracy theorist that seems suspicious right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:55 PM
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Yeah but that's in a sketchy moral area to be so transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:33 PM
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No I mean they want to be sexually valued by their woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:32 PM
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By Romeo and Juliet laws it's actually legal in a good number of states, but yeah I feel like 60 and 20 is a lot more weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:32 PM
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I mean, that's kinda what men want to be valued for. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:36 PM
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For me, I feel like a 37 year old pulling a 21 year old is impressive. I think it gets harder to pull younger when you get older. For some reason people paint it like younger women are easily manipulated, but younger women are in higher demand, so they have way more leverage to say no because they have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:26 PM
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Why isn't sex seen as a mutually rewarding activity in this case? People talk about grooming this and grooming that. It's all connotation and no substance. An 18 year old consents to sex in the same way a 30 year old does. To be clear, I'm actually against age gaps when the dude is unreasonable old to the extent that he couldn't possibly be sexually attractive to the woman, but as long as mutual sexual attraction is there, I'm fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:23 PM
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It's still kinda unreasonable to ask for proof of a successful conspiracy, because if there was definitive proof with specific names and addresses of people who are doing this, they'd probably be thrown out of power already. For example, look at the pardons of Joe Biden: Office of the Pardon Attorney | Pardons Granted by President Joseph Biden (2021-2025) When you start to read the descriptions of the crimes committed, you start to wonder why a president is pardoning so many people trafficking c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:17 PM
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In your opinion, what's the worst thing these "predators" can do? What's so wrong if they have an otherwise normal relationship but they just happen to have a slight age gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:06 PM
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What's the worst thing that could happen in the case where you get a guy who's say... 28, when you're in your early 20s? Is that bad to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:01 PM
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I mean, young women are also simply hotter. It's the reality. Older women can still be hot if they stay in shape, but younger women have it naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:59 PM
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Is it that bad though if he feels immature for a 37 year old and dates 21 year olds because he relates to them more? Obviously, that's not the implication you're making, and you want to pressure the man to mature faster and date people his age. I'm actually only against age gap relationships in so far as there couldn't possibly be genuine mutual sexual attraction between them. Like, if you're 77, your pp doesn't work without help, and you're dating a 22 year old, that's totally ridiculous. As lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:57 PM
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Am I crazy for being more okay with a 20 year old dating a 16 year old than I am with a 60 year old dating a 20 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:53 PM
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For me, 20 years is about the limit. Anything more than that doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:52 PM
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The problem with showing proof is that since those people are in power now, they're good at hiding it. It's like a criminal who throws a body in acid until there's no trace of it demanding that you show them a body. I would have to be in on super top-secret meetings with the most powerful people in the world to really give you the proof you're asking me for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:50 PM
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I think you have the chicken and the egg confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:01 AM
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At that point I doubt you would need advice if you're getting flirted with without initiating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:59 AM
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That can be a reason too unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:57 AM
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Yeah exactly. That's a good point. I've thought about it from this perspective as well. At this point, I think of super good-looking people as a mirage lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:55 AM
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Do you think you'd be able to find evidence of Uyghur genocide while you're in China?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:48 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:47 AM
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How is it love if you have to hold back until you see reciprocation rather than simply looking in a mirror and seeing your own love reflected back?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:46 AM
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Yeah I didn't know the right phrasing for it. I just knew something wasn't quite right for me to call him good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:45 AM
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It's not that hard to explain. Women act like they aren't casual sex havers as a way to reject men. It makes sense to shame them for lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:50 PM
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If you're so selfless, why aren't you doing things for those selfish guys? Could it be that you not doing things for them is a sign of your own self-respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:43 PM
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Yeah people don't give a fuck, and they don't want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:40 PM
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Okay keep going for hot chicks then for the next 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:37 PM
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How often do you get rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:57 PM
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Let's say a man is rejected and doesn't feel entitled, but is told that he's entitled when he asks for advice? Is it right for him to get angry at the person calling him entitled if he's legitimately not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:55 PM
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If a person keeps getting bullied over and over again, do you blame them for beating up the bully?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:28 PM
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It is the same thing if you aren't fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:26 PM
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I mean, naturally if you get rejected, you have to move on right? So how can a guy not ask out a bunch of girls if he's getting rejected by a bunch of girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:25 PM
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I've gotten 100s of numbers that led to the girl just simply not texting back. In fact, I could probably make my own course on getting a girl's number. Except, the number doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:24 PM
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I promise you that good looking people that have never had to deal with hardship in their life, will be nicer because they've been treated better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:23 PM
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You get rejected for the "natural" hookup. Then what? That's kinda creepy that so and so made a move on such and such girl isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:21 PM
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On the other hand, being friends with a girl for 2 years and then getting rejected isn't exactly an efficient way to do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:20 PM
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All you need to look at is the pure hatred American society has for being a normal white person with a normal family and how they call that "privileged". I promise you that's not organic. Wait, what do you mean they're trying to replace the Uyghurs? You must be crazy. Are you a Uyghur supremacist or something? Why do you want to save the Uyghurs anyway? They're a racist people who won't accept Han Chinese diversity. Really ask yourself now, why do you see preserving white people as white suprema…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:18 PM
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You have to understand the frustration that is put upon the rejected guy. You can only get called a bad person so many times for not doing anything bad before you say "I'll show you what a bad person is". An attractive guy who never gets rejected wouldn't know how to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:07 PM
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Maybe it's the same reason why someone would reject you in a cold approach, so you may as well cold approach because you have more room for failure to practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:02 PM
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I actually think that a lot of successful hot guys would be nice guys if it wasn't for women picking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:01 PM
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Even if you're perfectly mentally normal. Okay, so you ask out a girl in your social circle and she politely rejects you. Now what? Are you going to just move on to the next one within your social circle? If we were so smooth that we could guarantee one girl liking us within our social circle, then we would just do that cold approaching with the same effectiveness probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:00 PM
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You think there are enough social circles in my entire area to account for the amount of rejection I'll probably have to face to find one person who likes me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:51 PM
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Elliot is ugly. He wouldn't be entitled if he actually got women when he wanted them, which would require that he be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:50 PM
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I'm just saying, if historically down the line, it was proven that people were influencing the population, would you consider that unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:48 PM
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In my opinion something is conventionally attractive about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:46 PM
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What if I get rejected by every woman in the club except one and I just happen to ask her out last?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:42 PM
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How many social circles am I supposed to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:42 PM
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But I can't ask out more than one person in the social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:23 PM
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You know what I think is interesting? A lot of people on the left are pro Palestine and anti-Israel, yet for some reason, only the right are nazis when they criticize people like Jeffrey Epstein having a network of, as Virginia Giuffre (an Epstein victim) put it, "Jewish supremacists" and being associated with Mossad. I think this is another thing that keeps people from truly tapping on the real issue. They try to keep the right super pro-Israel, but for some reason the left are the ones calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:01 PM
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For some reason when I looked up gymcel, I saw no examples of gymcels in google images and only attractive gym dudes. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:45 PM
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I think a Chad face is more important than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:41 PM
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Okay so what's a man supposed to do when he gets rejected constantly, just quit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:40 PM
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Okay, so you fail with the one person. Now what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:38 PM
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Or you have an established dynamic from familiarity that the girl doesn't want to have challenged rather than a clean slate. You're a lot less likely to be in the friend zone with a girl you didn't even meet yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:38 PM
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I actually have a whole philosophy about rizz based on that. You can be the most charismatic person in the world, but a woman can just choose to act like she doesn't get any of your jokes, and suddenly you look socially autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:34 PM
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Yeah, a lot of times if you get a good night's sleep, the feelings that you think are super significant the day before will go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:32 PM
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Or she might genuine laugh because she's comfortable that you won't hit on her since you're in her friend group. A genuine laugh or not doesn't mean genuine attraction. A fake laugh at a bad joke could be even more signal that she's attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:28 PM
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Kafka trap is definitely a good way to explain the logic of a lot of women regarding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:27 PM
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And we can naturally assume that the things that make you earn pussy are the things that make you attractive yes? So, calling a guy entitled is calling him unattractive. It's just a way to call him unattractive that also makes him sound like a bad person. Assuming the guy in question didn't go on to shoot people up, that's not necessarily the case. I know Elliot Rodger did, but not every nice guy is Elliot Rodger. There's a certain frustration that comes with being character assassinated for bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:20 PM
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Yeah, but he doesn't look like captain of the football team either. Sure, he's presentable, but that's not enough for women these days. They want a super masculine good looking guy. Not some little shrimp like him. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:51 PM
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I think you're combining two different points of mine. I'm saying that if a guy was attractive, you'd like him to be nice to you. Guys don't assume that they are unattractive, so they're like, hey I'm nice to them so why doesn't she like me? People then call that guy entitled because he's unattractive and expecting to attract a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:49 PM
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If people call Elliot Rodger good looking, just call me Brad Pitt. Something about his facial harmony isn't there. His lips look like he got lip fillers and that makes him look like a sassy gay man which I assume isn't attractive to straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:44 PM
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I managed to get lucky here and there, but at some point, I cold approached 100s of women in college and we all had a nice friendly conversation, then I got their number, then they just wouldn't text back. Some of them had the balls to say they have a boyfriend, but most of them just would prefer to ghost you especially if you do a "test the waters" approach where you aren't being explicit. That allows people to just passively next you by making you take the hint for rejection rather than saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:30 PM
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You could say that men are leveling the playing field by going over there because women have a power imbalance over here. It depends on where you think the natural balance is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:29 PM
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Women don't want to do more by working. They want the ability to drop their man at a drop of the hat. When you want independence from your man, don't be surprised when you get it. There's no sense of obligation to your partner, only to your employer. Your man is just an emotional sponge with a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:24 PM
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I actually think that they're legitimately attracted to mid looking foreigners just because it's exotic more than an economic thing. We're talking about when guys in their 20s or 30s do it though. If you're 70 going after a 20-30 year old Filipina, then yeah that's all for money. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:16 PM
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Actually I disagree because people will gladly criticize white male asian female relationships to shit on white men even if it's in the context of the asian woman choosing. However, if you criticize black male white female relationships, you're a racist. Make that make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:14 PM
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Well, she's more likely to laugh at your jokes while not being attracted to you if you have a friend group in common. Whereas a stranger laughing at your jokes might be more indicative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:11 PM
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The thing about hints is plausible deniability. If you are attractive, hints work great. If you are unattractive, there's enough plausible deniability for the woman to string you along if it's just hints you're giving. She can be like "ohhh I didn't even know!" when you finally reveal it when you know damn well she knew. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:09 PM
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I honestly don't think women give green lights. They give yellow lights either out of fear of appearing like they're rejecting you to your face, or because they actually like you. So, basically women will treat you the same initially whether they like you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:07 PM
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Well, no, I can explain that. If the nice guy was attractive, then he'd probably attract you. If he was able to attract you, then you'd probably prefer that he be nice to you. It's just a little bit of relationship algebra. lol So, being nice would be the cherry on top of an attractive guy. Except, since this particular guy is not attractive, you calling him entitled is better than calling him ugly and unable to attract the people he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:01 PM
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It easy when you aren't comparing two guys that are fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:59 PM
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Well, one might argue that part of the foreign interests that have infected US politics are ideas that inflame divisions between man and woman, splitting up the family unit to slowly lower the population of the country for takeover. Feminism obviously doesn't explicitly vouch for this, but its popularity along with the popularity of red pill like beliefs can exaggerate the bad apples on both sides. You also have the grouping of "minorities and women" as being oppressed by the white man, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:53 PM
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The point is, if you can zero in on what your dick is actually feeling, it's the exact same thing as a skinny girl. Yeah, if you're not a virgin I wouldn't do it as a way to get back into the swing of things, but just as a way to get off your feet from 0. lol Then you can work your way up from what you consider rock bottom because a lot of people consider themselves as having lowered their standards, but they might not have done it enough, so lowering it to the bottom and working your way up wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:30 PM
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I suppose we will have to see if anything big is revealed before the end of the Trump presidency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:54 AM
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I think people are still holding out hope for the QAnon revolution. It doesn't matter who's elected when we are controlled by foreign lobbyists anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:36 AM
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I feel like women over there actually just really like foreigners. Like, they'll appreciate a white dude who otherwise would look mid in the US not out of financial obligation, but just because it's exotic to them. I'm assuming the man and woman are close in age in this hypothetical case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:03 AM
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Elliot is kinda weird looking though. His lips look fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:58 AM
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I guess it's possible. I'm mainly referring to some of the women men's rights influencer sort of girls. Some of them I feel very obviously glaze men just for views.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:49 AM
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I'm convinced that just about every Nick Fuentes, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, you name it, is government funded. It could be the US government, it could be a foreign government, but they are government funded.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:22 AM
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Most guys think on the attractiveness front, sure they might not be a model, but they aren't that bad. Assuming this, would one assume that women would rather have a guy be an asshole to them or nice to them? You'd assume they'd like someone nice who's a normal guy, right? So, the assumption is not just that niceness is all it takes, but also that their inherent attractiveness is enough to carry them home. That's all you can really do right? What else can you count on? You calling them entitled …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:02 AM
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Even though I may sometimes be insensitive towards women's issues, a lot of times I still want a girl who advocates for herself. It's weird to me when a girl is a men's rights activist. Like, it's okay, you can have your own opinions. You don't have to glaze men all the time. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:52 AM
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In my opinion, a lot of people voted for Trump with the idea that he would drain the swamp. He was the only one who at least tried to paint himself as an outsider in the face of a corrupt American political system. Pretty much every other politician says that everything is fine in that regard and ran on business-as-usual politics rather than seeing the elephant in the room that Americans don't trust the government anymore. There was recently a leak that an American official was texting with Epst…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:36 AM
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Cut off the internet and delete all smart phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:13 AM
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More like based on how their pretty little face looks on a dating profile. Nobody gets dated for "who they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:11 AM
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I promise all the men you've been with are Schrodinger's nice guy given the right conditions. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:10 AM
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I doubt the guy just turned to red pill for no reason and that's what's made him single. Something was making him single before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:08 AM
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There's a reason Trump calls his base "the silent majority". They're silent for a reason and it's not because the movements on the left have no power. Voting for Trump was an overcorrection to how shafted men are feeling. I'm convinced that a lot of people aren't even totally enamored by Trump that vote for him, they just want to say f u to the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:05 AM
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Girls face nuisances. Guys have to face feeling inadequate and like a nuisance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:31 PM
1

Good luck building it off of just going after hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:28 PM
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Escorts are optional I guess. That's if you just want to brute force your virginity loss. Obviously the fatty sex is for free, and the escort is a paid hotter one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:25 PM
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Lmao is that not a joke? Why can't a man be sexually liberated?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:24 PM
1

What do you mean, none?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:19 PM
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You're right though, fat girls aren't easy targets. I was in the gym hard when I had to resort to fat girls. No pretty girls with nice bodies would match with me even though I had a nice body myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:18 PM
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I still just sorta came away with the feeling that my choice doesn't really matter at all because I have to sit back and wait to see if the other person is interested first. I thought that if I had a love so big that it would be naturally reflected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:15 PM
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I did also have a FWB for a little while who I think would have considered a relationship with me, but she was 10 years older than me, so at the time I wasn't sure about having a super long-term thing with someone that much older. It's still kinda ridiculous how hard it seems to me to just get a girl I'm attracted to who's also my age or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:12 PM
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Don't show your face on dating apps or put your phone in front of your face. Just show your physique. That will pull in the fatty matches. Then get a temporary Tinder membership once you see that a few fatties have liked you and figure out which ones did. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:10 PM
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One word... having a pussy. haha Honestly there were a few girls I had a one night stand with where I would have considered more, but they just ghosted after one night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:08 PM
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It's not like I look terrible in the face. I feel like I'm in that weird 6/10 range where women aren't thinking I'm ugly, but they're like, yeah I'd like a bit better... lol ChatGPT rated one of my face pictures as 7.9/10 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:06 PM
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I wouldn't fuck myself because I'm not gay, but I don't think I look terribly ugly. I just feel like I don't have the male model level look that girls below 200 are looking for. lmao It was 100s of women I thought looked good. The 4'11 90lb girl gave me something weird about how we're in different life stages. I was a junior in college and she was a freshman. I don't understand people like that. Like, do you want someone born at the same time as you down to the millisecond as well? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:03 PM
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If fat women aren't easy targets, I guess that means that it's even more validating if they choose you, so you know that you have a potential of dating a hot girl. Maybe you even have a chance of dating a celebrity because a fat girl chose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:49 PM
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My thought was that it's not random chance that they like you back if you truly love them. I felt like I truly loved that person, but they ghosted me. Now I don't understand the point of loving someone that way. I mean, if it takes both people liking each other, it's just luck that you find the person who likes you back. It has nothing to do with how strong your love is reflected back. To me that takes all the magic out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:47 PM
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Ok that's good that you go to the gym. That means you probably have a chance at fatties. The thing about you saying you would be suicidal if you lost it to an escort is, I have trouble believing that you haven't been suicidal at one point anyways. I had a shift in philosophy. At one point I wanted to die, so I may as well live like I'm already dead and do whatever I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:42 PM
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In college I approached 100s of women. We all had a polite conversation, and then they rejected me not directly, but by giving me their number and not texting back. There was only 1 of the 100s that said yes and she was a 4'11 90lb girl. The rest of my success came from dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:33 PM
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You take it for granted because you get it easy. It'd be like me scoffing at you deadlifting 225. I deadlifted 225 the first time I tried deadlifting. For girls it's obviously different. You might see it as a big achievement if you deadlifted 225.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:30 PM
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I was in great shape with abs and a shredded back and I still couldn't get a hot girl. When things are so inflated like that, you have to buck the system somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:27 PM
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I just think there's this momentum you get from getting your dick wet that you don't get if you try to go straight into a hot girl. It's like lifting a heavy weight without warmup. It's possible, but you risk injury. Maybe in the case of the hot girl, emotional damage from getting rejected over and over and over again for being a shy virgin who's unsure of himself. lol Also, if you're willing to go to extremes for your goals, you will be willing to go to extremes to get the hot girl. You open yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:24 PM
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The coomer mindset would be continuing to fuck fatties and escorts. I'm saying only do one or two of those each as you attempt to move up the scale. Until you get a better option after the first two, you can practice nofap or not depending on what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:22 PM
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I've been with a few normal sized women now. I'm just reflecting back the energy I get from women. They say I'm not entitled to sex or relationships. That's truly understandable, but way to dismiss my feelings entirely, right? I never felt entitled to it. Maybe they should have considered my feelings. In reality, I do feel for the big girl, and hope that she loses weight not only to get with better men, but also for her health.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:21 PM
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There's a difference between knowing you can get something, and not getting it, and not knowing if you're capable of that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:49 AM
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Being desired by a woman means something to a man. For women, being desired by men comes easy. For men, you have to be an exceptional man to get sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:44 AM
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Being considered a worthless asexual blob is torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:39 AM
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That's simply because there wasn't the opportunity for comparison with the internet. Now that people see what's possible, they want in. People can be convinced that it's normal to have 1 or 2 partners their whole lifetime if they don't see the dude with 20+ on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:37 AM
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You go for the sex worker, then you go for the fat chicks for free, then acknowledging that at least fat chicks are attracted to you, you try to go for fit girls with busted faces. If you achieve that, maybe you try to go for a hot girl. You'll find your natural limit at some point. Now that you're 37 though idk if you need all that sex. Maybe you do just want a life partner, and you might not want to do the same strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:33 AM
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When you're fucking a chick you're genuinely into and she's genuinely into you and she's essentially saying with her body "I authentically love and appreciate you and think you deserve my pussy" there is no greater feeling than that in this life, imo. And you should be pursuing this feeling for sure, but sometimes you need to lose your virginity any way possible to get the ball rolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:31 AM
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Incels will go for the girl next door type thinking that's lowering their standards, when in reality that's what your Megan Foxes look like without makeup. Incels have standards that they can't afford to have, otherwise they wouldn't be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:27 AM
1

Do you go to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:26 AM
1

She was the right person for me, so how come my choice doesn't matter? I guess I just have to wait for some arbitrary girl to like me back huh? Oh wowww #13 is the one that magically likes me back! That's so romantic huh? I don't get to choose. That's great. That makes me feel so optimistic about life and romance. That's the point. If you can't lose your virginity by 19, there's something wrong with you compared to the boys having sex at 13. I'm 28 now btw, and not a virgin anymore. I still stru…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:22 AM
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It's not any more embarrassing than being a virgin past high school. Yeah sure just get a woman who's attractive to you because that's been working all this time. That's so easy to do. It's like breathing air. If you're homeless, just buy a house! I didn't have any problems with ED when I did this except for when I masturbated too close before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:20 AM
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The point is, you try to get some momentum going into getting hot women. The goal is not to pursue fatties and escorts for the rest of your life, but just get a couple of them, and then try to move on to doing better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:11 AM
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Yeah well being placed in the garbage bin as an involuntary virgin male for years is dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:06 AM
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The ego benefits of "damn I can get hot women I'm so awesome" are what's mind blowing. The actual sex itself is shit compared to the effort you have to put in to get it. The feeling of being a god that you got with a hot woman is superior to the sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:06 AM
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It doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:04 AM
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You know how shit it is compared to how much mental bandwidth you're using to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:02 AM
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It's already shameful to be a virgin loser. If you reach a certain age, it becomes more and more likely that you won't find a girl who likes you to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:01 AM
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How can you know without the physical sensation of sex if it's not worth it? Normally when you hear it from others that are having sex, it's just like "ohhhh sureeeeeee easy to say from your easy sex having ass" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:58 AM
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True, I actually thought it was kinda hot. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:57 AM
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I bet you're fooled by "the natural look" style of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:59 AM
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I'm saying you experience the literal physical sensation of sex. You really don't know until you try it. Some people think it'll be the thing that makes them feel like they found the meaning of life. In reality it's much more underwhelming than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:55 AM
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Idk I definitely felt less pressure when I knew what it physically felt like beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:52 AM
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It at least shows you what you're missing out on. I mean, if you base your confidence on something else, you might be content to be a virgin forever. Which is fine, but if you're content to do that, you probably will be because the effort required is far too great to just dilly dally around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:49 AM
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My oneitis rejected me, so that kinda sucked. I guess the 4'11 girl sex was alright. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:45 AM
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I believe that one will view sex differently after they experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:44 AM
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You would have a different view of sex even if you only did it once. Also I would only recommend doing it once.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:43 AM
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I'm referring to virgin men, not women. As a virgin woman, you can find a fit guy on Tinder with maybe not the best looking face, but with a nice body with relative ease. Men have to be top tier to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:00 AM
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You confuse cause and effect here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:58 AM
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No, it's not part of my problem. I don't think a guy is entitled to sex. Don't be surprised though if he takes desperate measures to get it when nothing is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:58 AM
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This is not something that will change by people boycotting sex with fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:56 AM
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Having group sex with dudes is an ick for me as well. I would think it's sleazy too to go out there and act like it's a big party where you're going to fuck prostitutes. It's definitely not something to be proud of. It's not a time for celebration. I also like to keep my sexual business between me and the woman I'm with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:55 AM
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My problem is talking about people in prison like their situation was unavoidable and they're just there for existing while black. Cops don't just round up black people for no reason and put them in cages. That's what you make it sound like. Sure, maybe there's some disproportionate sentencing for some crimes, but even then, they're still crimes and something illegal was still done. You don't have to do illegal things. That's totally optional. You'd probably be more productive and better of sobe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:52 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:16 AM
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I would say the problem is that, if you aren't gigachad, your looks match is a fat chick. It doesn't matter if you have 6 pack abs and a great body. The women who aren't fat want the most top tier of the top tier dudes with the best looking faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:11 AM
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I would say a couple fat girls and you should start going for girls with nice bodies. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:08 AM
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Are you of the perspective that some drugs help you see into the spiritual world and the government wants to stop this or something? If there was a law saying that if you killed somebody, you get 50 years if you're white, and 25 if you're black, that wouldn't be relevant to me because I'm not going around killing people. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:07 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't recommend using them consistently. Just get one once to see what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:04 AM
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I'm more inclined to believe that he's seeing hot women with hot men, but doesn't see the men as hot because he's not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:03 AM
1

What would you say you figured out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:01 AM
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I mean, I don't blame them in a way, but yes, that is one of the reasons. People can even think they're lowering their standards when really they're only lowering it from like an 8 to a 7.8.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:00 AM
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In my opinion the tiers of ego fulfillment go: hot prostitute - fat girl for free - hot girl for free There are some tiers in between, but that's the order. When you get the fat girl for free, you're on your way there. You've proven that you're at least attractive to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:58 AM
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Or you could use a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:56 AM
1

Yeah there is this odd momentum you get when you do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:56 AM
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I doubt you learned all that much more besides getting lucky if it was only months. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:55 AM
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Yes, but some don't, and keep their wizard status well into their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:53 AM
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It's getting late so I'm getting a little moody lol. If it were that easy, they wouldn't be struggling to lose their virginity in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:49 AM
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Yeah I was in the gym with a shredded back when I had to resort to fatties. That shows how inflated things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:48 AM
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The man is in an equally awful and hurtful position as a virgin man who doesn't see any end to his virginity in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:46 AM
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Don't you get that the gross personality comes after the constant rejection? It's not like people start out as pure evil. You just realize that no one cares about you, so you return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:42 AM
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How about feeling compassion for the virgin guy? Oh right, he's not entitled to sex. He's not entitled to relationships. He's not entitled to anything and should just sit in his little corner and let everyone else have all the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:40 AM
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Oh right I'll just find a hot girl who loves me. That's easy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:37 AM
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The self-worth hit should have already happened from the years of involuntary virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:36 AM
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The dudes who are virgins aren't that guy. They aren't capable of just pulling a girl who looks good or they would have done that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:34 AM
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I swear though there's something about getting your dick wet recently that women can just sense and it gets easier. Like, you get momentum going.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:33 AM
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I promise you that's an impossible task for some people. It's not reasonable for some people to expect a person they are attracted to, to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:32 AM
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It's not about it being difficult, but about the anxiety of thinking the girl will notice you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:29 AM
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I'm 28 now. I still don't feel like I'll ever feel the way I felt about her about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:27 AM
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A lot of people have a sense of dignity about only hooking up with hot chicks when they can't afford to. They don't realize how bad they really have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:26 AM
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People just don't realize how stuck they are and how low they need to go to have sex. It's a messed up world out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:25 AM
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Tinder had this feature where you can see who liked you, and for me, the only girls liking me were typically big ol' fat ones. So, we're talking about fat girls that swiped right on me. I'm not sure about any other method, but this is what I did. I'm convinced I would still be a virgin to this day if I didn't do what I did and I stuck to my principles and found a girl I was attracted to. I wouldn't have found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:21 AM
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I was happy when I got with a 4'11 90lb girl who had yellow teeth and looked like she didn't brush them. I don't think my standards are all that crazy once I dropped them. My oneitis was some fat goth chick that did her makeup well and was super pretty. She wasn't that fat, but she had a bit of chub. She definitely wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:20 AM
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Well, you can see from some comments that some people disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:18 AM
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The scars on your soul for this are the same scars you experience when you are on a dry spell. It's not all that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:18 AM
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Yeah, they have to be in shape first, then they can get fat girls. It's really tough out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:16 AM
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Months? That's barely any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:15 AM
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Yes it does, because a hot woman isn't all that more mind blowing when it comes to what the pussy feels like. Don't fuck anyone in the ass. That's gay. Even if it's a woman. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:13 AM
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Women never respected me anyway, hence being a virgin, so screw their opinion of me. They're rarely attracted to me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:12 AM
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It's more that, as you see here in the comments, some guys will think that Sydney Sweeney is mid. So, they have ridiculously high standards and need to be humbled. If they're a virgin and think Sydney is mid, they really have no hill to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:11 AM
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You're right. I was a fit guy when I had to resort to getting fat chicks. That's what's so bad about the dating game. I'm 37 years old See, that's what I wanted to avoid. I had the foresight to see that I probably would end up like that if I didn't do something drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:09 AM
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You're right. I had a shredded back when I got with fat chicks. I was a fit 165 5'11-6'0 ish. It's truly horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:07 AM
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Maybe you can rephrase that. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:06 AM
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For me personally, I had an existential crisis about how shitty sex was when I lost my virginity compared to how much mental effort I put into getting it. You can at least get an accurate depiction of what it is you are missing out on physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:05 AM
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Except, as you've shown, healthy women with awkward faces are hard to find because they can all doll themselves up Sydney Sweeney style and no one will be able to tell the difference. You can be in shape with a mid face, and you will not be able to get a woman with a mid face that is in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:03 AM
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If you are actually successful with those standards, you have higher potential than most of the men here struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:02 AM
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All girls have a mid face if you compare them to some anime fantasy girl that you have in your head. They all use makeup and filters to overinflate themselves. There is not a single girl who is a 10/10 by your standards. I promise you. Even the girls you think are "natural" without makeup, are probably using makeup to create a natural look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:59 AM
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All of your favorite 10/10s look like that without makeup. If a girl has a nice enough body, she can probably doll herself up like Sydney Sweeney and all of a sudden, she's a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:57 AM
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So basically, you're saying he didn't have to wait at all for the right person. I had a crush on a girl in high school around 16 or 17. She didn't like me. I would have probably married her if she let me. Okay, now what do I do? The right person rejected me, now what the hell am I supposed to do for the rest of my 70 or 80 or so years on earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:52 AM
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There's no skill element in getting laid either. It's all luck. A girl who likes you will let you win. A girl who doesn't like you can't be skilled into bed. A girl who likes you will let you think that you're smooth, but it's all her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:51 AM
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You can say, okay, I'm able to get with the least attractive women, now how much higher up the scale can I go? and gradually work your way up. I would actually recommend only getting one escort and then look for free sex with fatties. Relying on escorts isn't a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:49 AM
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WOW I have to say this advice is brilliant. Who would have thought of this? Just find someone with similar values that you're attracted to! Wow, maybe they should have thought of that when they were getting absolutely zero women let alone being able to vet down to the point of similar values. If you're struggling to get laid, just put more barriers to entry on yourself! That'll do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:46 AM
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Yeah, I feel like you have time at 19 now that I'm 28, but every year that went by at that age felt like it was over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:41 AM
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That's exactly what a guy has to do. How hideous do you need to go to guarantee a yes with your shy, mid looking, little bit neurodivergent ass? Let me tell you it's worse than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:39 AM
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Choking back his vomit is even more insulting than I would imagine it. I can get away with one nut before the post-nut clarity hits and then I'm just not horny anymore. Whereas, with a hotter girl, I'll be able to get it up again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:38 AM
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Yeah, and imagine being in the situation where you need experience to get experience. It's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:34 AM
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Are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:33 AM
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They're still a virgin. So they definitely have principles about not getting escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:33 AM
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Being a disgusting loser that can't get laid is gross to women. The world is not on team virgin men. They should say fuck everyone's opinion and get some any way they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:30 AM
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Yeah, they should just hope and hope for the rest of their lives hoping that they can get Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:29 AM
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I promise you that for guys who are a virgin into their 20s, putting their standards a bit lower is not enough. These guys will think you mean going for Scarlett Johansson instead of Megan Fox. Oh durr hurr I dropped my standards a little bit and they still don't like me. What the heck? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:25 AM
1

Watching a video and doing something are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:24 AM
1

That's the first step. It makes the first time with an actual hot girl a lot less intimidating if you already know what it's like to have your dick inside a vagina. I'm not so convinced that it's a skillset and think it's more a bartering of attractiveness. If you're attractive enough, the hot girls are as easy as the unattractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:42 PM
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Don't put yourself down about it, and don't use it as a crutch. Just use it to know what you're missing out on, and then keep searching as you have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:38 PM
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Yeah I constantly heard stories since middle school of people doing freaky stuff with each other. I felt like when I got out of high school it was over. My chance for freaky high school sex had ended. lol I honestly think the gym is what you need to get in the door even with a fatty. Like, I just had a picture of my shredded back on Tinder when I hooked up with the big girls. I still barely got any decent matches back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:36 PM
3

Some "professional" help? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:33 PM
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I think even knowing what it feels like to have your penis inside a vagina is progress. You won't be intimidated to perform or feel like you're fumbling around trying to find the hole when you find a girl you actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:32 PM
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I get your point, but the point is that you're losing your virginity to someone who you wouldn't normally give a chance. That's all it is. It's a one-night stand opportunity for the big girl. As long as you aren't deceptive in this regard, it's alright. She doesn't need to know how you truly feel though. A same sort of passive brutality is put upon the virgin man by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:30 PM
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Yeah I don't think incels realize how much of a stud of a man you can be and still only be able to get with fatties. If you're some skinny fat turd that doesn't go to the gym, you definitely aren't pulling Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:25 PM
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Doing it with a fatty first takes some of that pressure off that you might have to perform when you do get with a hot girl. I just don't think you realize how stuck you can be. The odds are, if you're a virgin, you are that stuck. There aren't many ways to brute force yourself out of the virgin hole. Doing this gets the ball rolling from zero. You'll get momentum going.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:20 PM
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Whenever I see some guy say "I'm still a virgin a 30+, what do I do" I feel validated in my foresight because I'm convinced that would have been me if I didn't brute force things. I couldn't see myself ever getting any normal attractive girl to get with me from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:16 PM
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Yeah, people should definitely go to the gym, and I was already in pretty good shape at 19. That's another thing that's ridiculous about it. I think anyone that would be finished off from losing their virginity to an escort doesn't realize how bad their situation already is. You see guys all the time 30+ and still haven't lost their virginity. Imagine if they had the foresight at 19 to see that possibility coming and just said fuck it. I think it's the better option than ending up a lifetime vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:13 PM
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When I think chubby chaser, I think of it as an ironic way to say that you like morbidly obese chicks. lmao I just think you can get in this weird place where, yeah you want to have sex with a hot girl, but you feel ashamed for being a virgin, and you don't want to mess up your first time with said hot chick. So, if you lose it with a fatty, there's no pressure to perform, and you can just see what sex is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:04 PM
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It's really about trading one ego problem for another. I feel like you not being able to have sex is already damaging your ego. So, the point is, you just say fuck it and fuck the world for putting you in this situation. You can't let a sense of pride stop you from getting to your final destination. I understand your point of view though, because I had these imaginations and dreams that I would be with a super hot girl when I was in high school and we would get married and be done with it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:59 PM
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I mean, women can probably find a gymcel that has a nice body if they are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:57 PM
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I'm 28 now. I guess I just constantly heard stories since I was in middle school that people were already sexually active from a young age. 19 feels old when the cool kids have been doing it since middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:55 PM
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You can always just lie. Did your boyfriend lose it to you? How old was he?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:53 PM
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Not being capable of having sex is already damaging to the ego. You need to put your ego to the side if you want to really fix things in the most brute force way. Oh no no no no. Don't combine the two. I'm saying you get with a fatty for free or pay an escort that you actually find attractive. I would recommend escort - fatty for free - and then move your way up the scale. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:51 PM
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Just kidding about agreeing entirely or only kidding about the fatties? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:45 PM
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I'm not saying you have to commit to the chubby chaser lifestyle for your whole life, because eventually I was getting with girls who were like 5'7 120 or 4'11 90lbs, but it's an easy way to start your journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:44 PM
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Some people who haven't had sex yet will think that coochie is magical. This will at least help them get rid of that idea in the initial stages. It's not the final step, but it's the first step towards getting better. If you got rejected by every one of your crushes in high school, there's probably something not totally right with you, and you need to take a different path from everyone else. You need to go full Joker mode with the shamelessness. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:41 PM
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It was illegal where I did it. That didn't stop me. lol I certainly couldn't go multiple rounds with a 300lber, but a lot of times a little bit of stored up horniness can help me make it through the first nut before the post-nut clarity hits. The point is you need to make a change and be willing to do what needs to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:36 PM
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I just see this argument all the time that you shouldn't hold on to grudges about stuff that happened in high school, and that makes sense if it was a long time ago. I wouldn't say that "oh they're older now and they're a different person" is a valid reason to drop the grudge though. If you say you shouldn't hold the grudge because it's bad for your health to hold grudges, that makes sense. Except, I just don't think people are that much different in high school vs adulthood. Like, it's still th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:19 PM
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I'm 28. If condoms and the pullout method don't work, I'll just accept the responsibilities of fatherhood. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:16 PM
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I feel like I could have struggled more if I didn't lose my virginity to an escort and decide to drop all my standards temporarily and get with big like 250-300+lb girls. lol Like, I could see how if you were me, and you had principles about that sort of thing and wanted to keep your standards intact, you might be cooked. Eventually I got with some girls that I actually thought were hot, but it seemed like slowly moving up the scale from the bottom was the best way for me. hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:12 PM
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Because I'm not trying to mess with my natural sperm production.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:22 PM
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I actually flip this around. I don't think we should give people free rein to act stupid in high school and then think "oh they're older now so they're totally different people". I personally think that by high school, people know better than they let on. I certainly didn't feel like a brainless NPC with no free will in high school. I knew better and acted accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:20 PM
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You really don't know how nerve racking it is until you try it. Not having a need to is great, but even if you were motivated, the level of motivation needed to overcome that fear is very high. You might think in the comfort of your house "oh yeah I could approach a man easy if I wanted to." but when you get out there and you actually see that hot dude you want to approach, then you will suddenly see how hard it is to put one foot in front of the other and open your mouth. lol I'm even a victim …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:15 PM
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I don't blame women for not approaching. If I could just not approach and women would come to me, I wouldn't have ever tried approaching either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:12 PM
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I swear there was some crazy stats saying like 30% of gen z are virgins at such and such age range. Maybe it was "haven't had sex in a year" or something. I lost it at 19, but sometimes I identify with those people who struggle to lose it into their 20s and feel for them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:10 PM
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I feel like I'm being gaslighted. It has to be way higher than 10%. Maybe the age range was different in the statistics that I saw that were higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:16 PM
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She's saying that both people should be their natural selves and want to fuck each other regularly. Otherwise, there's something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:46 AM
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This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:45 AM
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No black person alive today in the United States is a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:33 AM
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Driving a train is pretty cool, but making 240k is probably even cooler to them. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:17 PM
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I don't understand you. You don't see 240k as worth doing pretty much anything? Why does the job even matter at that point? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:15 PM
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Yeah but you're talkin 240k a year. What would you not want your partner doing for that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:14 PM
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That's a very social skills oriented job though, so it makes sense that they get around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:11 PM
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I feel like "because I make 240k doing this" is a good enough explanation. How many degrees are you going to be making that kind of money? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:10 PM
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I wonder if the women just don't realize how much those jobs pay. Like, if you said "I make 240k", they probably wouldn't care what you do. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:08 PM
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No black person alive today is a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:27 PM
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Can you explain how there can be science behind something that's completely non-physical and all about the thoughts in your head? Is there science behind thoughts that you have bugs under your skin that you need to tear out? Does a gene that tells your brain that you have bugs that need to come out of your skin mean that you literally have bugs in your skin or do you just have schizophrenia?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:50 PM
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First off, I appreciate you for engaging in this conversation with me, addressing my points, and not completely shutting down. If you mean sexual characteristics we can change some by medical transitioning. But you can't actually, and the surgeries that are currently available are rather botched in my opinion. I feel like if people do want to make transgenderism legit, they need to do it down to the genetic level. Somehow there needs to be a way that changes your DNA. Then it would be more liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:28 AM
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Intersex people with both and neighter exist. Intersex people don't change the fact that you were likely born with male or female genitalia alone. It also doesn't mean that you can modify your gender like you're a character in a video game. It is poorly named, it gets confused with gender. Also adding to this many scientists believed gender was a social construct and it could be changed by external factors, but their theory failed. I would bet you my entire net worth that someone paid to have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:08 AM
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The billionaires who own the media will cancel you for being racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic, and are mostly vehemently anti-Trump despite him being president. Just because he's president doesn't mean he has all the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:45 AM
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Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, you name it, they're probably a grifter. Even Charlie Kirk was a grifter. There are even theories by people close to him that he was killed because he refused a big payment to grift more. They inadvertently exposed that he was paid a lot of money to say what he said. Did you ever get into the pizzagate conspiracy theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:57 AM
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I wish I could prove to you that the promotion of transgenderism is another attempt by our overlords to reduce the amount of people reproducing, but I won't be able to. I'm male, and I don't identify as a man either. However, I am biologically designed to reproduce with human females. This is the body I was born in, and I will rock with it. I will not take hormones like I'm an athlete on PEDs, and I will not surgically modify myself in a way that has no science behind it to permanently damage my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:54 AM
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None of that fulfills the ego like the approval of a real woman. Those men are drug addicts if they like beating off so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:22 AM
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You don't have to hold on to anyone's history but your own life. I could have a chip on my shoulder about Irish people being indentured servants, but how is that relevant today? Who still is prejudiced against the Irish? Backwards people that's who. It's the same with people against black people. No one is against a hardworking, doesn't do anything illegal, just all around nice guy, black dude. Only messed up people in tiny little niches still hold on to the racism of whatever time period you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:16 AM
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I think that sense of urgency is important though if you actually want to get to where you want to be. Sometimes what you have to do is really hard and you need that sense of impending doom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:06 AM
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If you identified as someone meant to jump off a bridge into the Ohio River, should I allow you to have that identity, or should I try to convince you to not jump into the Ohio River from that high?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:02 AM
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Well, we definitely can't restrict people's choices, but if we could somehow go back to that time with no internet, then they would at least be restricted within their own towns. Now the cat is out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:53 AM
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I just have trouble believing that people who specifically want Trump exposed would have cared about the files if it wasn't an opportunity for a gotcha against him. Like, would you still care about Epstein if Trump was completely innocent? Would you at least support Trump's action if he let out the files and it turns out he was completely innocent and all the people saying he wasn't turned out to be the pedos? What you'd probably think at that point is that he somehow scrubbed his name from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:51 AM
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I actually think it's important though to be 19 and think that it's over, because then you'll try really hard to do something about it. That's what motivated me to lose my virginity at 19. I was like, damn if I don't do something soon it'll be completely over. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:37 PM
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Yeah I'm 28, and I think the generation 10 years older than me was definitely more chill than ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:36 PM
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It's almost like they've got their free market sex, and they're like, wait productive incels, we want your money too!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:34 PM
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I agree. All the other child diddlers including the left side. Except, how much did you care about the Epstein files before Trump acted like he didn't want them released?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:32 PM
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Yes, unlike citizens. Because, unlike here, over there they don't just deal with people through "microaggressions" they literally throw people off buildings for being gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:29 PM
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Well, casting your vote is anonymous, so there's not as much pressure. It's actually the perfect way for this to happen. All the people forcing everyone to walk on eggshells around certain issues think they are succeeding in changing everyone's minds, when really, they're only creating a bunch of angry silenced people ready to rebel at the first chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:27 PM
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This is what I think is ironic about these girls being pro socialism because they're pro free market when it comes to sexuality. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:19 PM
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Why can't the hot young girls be more chill? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:49 AM
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I'm 28, and I think even people 10 years older than me had it different than we do because I dated someone 10 years older and she was super chill compared to people my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:11 AM
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Do you even try or do you just hang out with the boys at the bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:09 AM
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How is black people smoking less weed calculated? Do they divide the amount of weed they consume by the population of black people? Anyways it's like I said, if you don't commit a crime, then you won't have to worry about disproportionate sentencing. That sucks and everything, but there are things you can do about that in your life like not smoking or selling weed for example. We don't live in times when black people are arrested for being in between jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:07 AM
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You're like this in every reply. Always with an attitude. Do you reply to anyone with good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:01 AM
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I believe anyone should be allowed to do anything they want, but when they are misinformed into believing things that aren't true, you need to speak out when they don't have proper informed consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:00 AM
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I mean, what other examples are there besides retracting Roe v. Wade? honestly. You're the one who's smug in nearly every one of your responses. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:01 AM
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Transgenderism is a human rights violation psyop.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:49 AM
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What crimes are those? Can they be avoided if you stay straight edge? I think the entire family unit is being attacked on all fronts at this point. Doesn't matter the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:48 AM
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I think it's a shitty thing to do, and I know not all black men do it, but it is clearly something that is common in the black community. Just like I know all men in general don't do it, so they don't need to have this guilt on behalf of men like "oh I'm so bad for my male nature" if they aren't one of those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:04 AM
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Why do you blame men rather than blaming the individual men that do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:01 AM
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Being a deadbeat dad is not good, but it is individual men that do that. It's not necessarily because they're men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:59 PM
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Now how do you think men feel when you make a sexist comment saying to hold all men responsible? That's how they feel when I say you should hold black men responsible. It's really not different. When you group men together, they will advocate for the group, just like you've done. You see the analogy I was trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:56 PM
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I'm arguing against the idea that women here say that men commit violent crime more often. So, they feel violent crime is a male issue. I'm extending that logic to generalize to a group that does the thing you're talking about even more often than generalizing all of men. I'm not necessarily advocating for this perspective, but I'm making the argument that if you want to group people together like this, you can narrow it down even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:47 PM
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Men and women have both committed murder. Let's hold all of humanity responsible. What's that? You only want to hold men responsible because they do it more often? Oh... I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:41 PM
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What does any of that have to do with 2025 and the fact that this is a stereotype even in men who are free to raise those families?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:40 PM
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Yes, they are looking for the hottest person they can fuck AND on top of that everything else... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:34 PM
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Why did you take that personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:22 PM
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While you're looking at women's rights issues, why don't you look at our government unanimously supporting Israel and that no voting will fix that. Maybe you should also consider that they might be the reason we are in this gender race war.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:52 PM
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Yeah, I voted for Trump, but even I just did it as an f u to the political movements on the left that seem to be vehemently against my gender and especially my race. I would probably say if BLM and transgenderism didn't exist, I would still vote left.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:50 PM
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If by undo the gains of feminism you mean abortion, can't you guys just... idk. be responsible about birth control? Are us men really that irresistible that you want raw creampies without consequences? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:47 PM
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Except, I know from being a guy with abs, that even that's not enough for you guys if you don't have a model tier face on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:40 PM
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So you'd rather go through less matches and then just conclude that you're an incel? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:39 PM
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My point is that you wouldn't even find that 1-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:38 PM
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Okay let's hold black men accountable for doing that. Wait a minute, that sounds kinda racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:40 PM
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Yes, but imagine the most butt ugly fat man you could ever imagine. Imagine a variation of that guy makes up your grand total of maybe 10-20 matches at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:57 PM
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As women consider this, consider that less matches doesn't = less annoying attention from guys you don't want. What it actually means is that you will only have attention from guys you don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:50 PM
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It's easy to have a natural back and forth when the person is reciprocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:44 PM
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I don't know how you expect women to select for guys who aren't lying about their intentions. That can happen whether the guy approaches or the girl approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:23 PM
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Honestly even in a bear vs man scenario, if they were both hostile, I think as a woman you could take the man out much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:20 PM
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Actually a crazy phenomenon for me has been when I feel the smoothest, that's usually when I'll get a number and they'll never respond. When I feel socially retarded, that's all of a sudden when I succeed. That's a frustrating part too. It's like they reward me for my perception of what should be a failure. That's the trouble I have. I feel like I get lucky, but I've never felt like I've acquired any skill for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:16 PM
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There's no teeball for relationships though. It's kinda like if you go to the gym and just train isometric contractions against the world record lift until you finally lift it. It's hardly optimal to throw yourself into the deep end until the deep end feels easy. Mixed company makes it worse for me usually. I like to just be 1v1 with a girl. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:12 PM
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What kind of bar are you going to? There are certain bars that seem to have more men where men just unwind after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:09 PM
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Must be a skill issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:08 PM
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I think there's literally foreign government influence at this point and we're in some kind of psychological war.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:01 PM
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They also try to act like there couldn't be one man sleeping with multiple women. You'll see people say, "well if a girl is getting laid, that means a guy is getting laid too! So it must be equal!" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:00 PM
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This story needs a backstory where the Danish man's mom had her entire net worth taken by a "Nigerian prince" and now he preys upon the people of Nigeria. hehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:28 PM
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I swear people just make up situations like this to try to reverse the stereotype in the opposite direction. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:26 PM
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To be fair, I don't think I do this in the moment, but "after the game" so to speak, I definitely get mad at myself for screwing it up somehow or just not being good enough in some way. I have a different competitive sport though where I don't mind losing, because I have a clear path on how to get better. For relationships, there doesn't really seem to be that clear path and I feel like I just get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:25 PM
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I guess I'm thinking more about a sport like powerlifting, where preparation is extremely important. You're not going to break any powerlifting record if you never step foot in a gym. Even with baseball though, by preparation I don't mean dissecting the game. I mean doing 1000s of shots with a pitching machine for example or maybe even practicing sprints to navigate the bases faster. There's not really any equivalent for pursuing women where there's a low-pressure environment where you can pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:20 PM
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A Danish man scammed a Nigerian woman... What kind of reverse uno card is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:20 PM
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How about, "Let's find out, talk is cheap." lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:16 PM
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To add to this, some part of you wants to win, because otherwise why would you train so hard? On the day you might fall back on your training and relax, but there's part of you that is not outcome dependent, or you wouldn't have trained so hard to be prepared on the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:13 PM
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Let's say someone came in with mental health issues and was a literal nazi or had fundamentally different moral views to you. Or let's say in order to help them they said they needed to tie you up and degrade you physically. Let's say to help them, you have to get on your knees, open your mouth, and let them spit in it. Does that make you a bad counselor if you say no? It's passive aggressive because you're saying "Oh it's okay, you're just an asshole. Some people are just assholes. That's okay …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:10 PM
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The problem is I don't think there's any real preparation you can put into approaching women. You just have to approach women. At a sport you can be very prepared because you can dissect every aspect of the game to the point of being an enlightened master of your sport. If you're bad at approaching women, you'll continue to be bad at it, and no amount of detachment will help you. Detachment to a game you suck at will make you quit. The security you talk about comes from being good at the game to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:05 PM
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Just about people joking about thinking BBC means British Broadcasting Corporation or acting like they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:48 AM
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Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:03 AM
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What you have to be careful though is there might be someone outside all of this pulling the strings, dividing and conquering. This is my only question about left vs right sort of politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:38 AM
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The reason I don't believe you is that I've heard that joke so many times before. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:36 AM
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What do you mean? I hear all the time that black dudes hate black women and want to date white girls. Where da white girls at?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:34 AM
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You're being passive aggressive with me. I would gladly help lots of people who are in need, but it definitely wouldn't be someone who subscribes to an ideology that my very existence is racist or sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:32 AM
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Yeah I mainly say conspiracy theory because most people think these issues are organic and I'm trying to slip the idea in gently. hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:10 PM
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A call for honesty is more about the woman getting a reason to reject you than it is for them to think you're such a good man for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:06 PM
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It's all a depopulation op.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:04 PM
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I would say that it's more, I have no motivation to care about those who have invalidated my issues at every turn. Whether it be white privilege, or male privilege, why would I support people who have such a negative view of my stance in life? Also, I know they wouldn't do the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:00 PM
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This also happens in the BLM movement where they want white people to be these quiet little docile advocates for the cause while the black people get to do all the complaining. When you identify movements like that with "the left" it's not hard to see why white men especially move right. In fact, I think there are certain groups who have intentionally designed the political landscape this way to divide white men from women and minorities. That's a whole different set of conspiracy theories thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:51 PM
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To extend upon that, I think a lot of pressure from the left on white men needing to pay back everyone else for their privilege, simply catapults them into the right if they aren't ready to help others. Like for example, the whole "white silence is violence" that came up during the BLM protests. It's like, okay I accept the terms. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:46 PM
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It's not about being a rights issue. If I can't solve my own problems in life, I'm not ready to help others or sympathize with those that think their problems are worse than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:33 PM
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The men on red pill had the same realization. The reality is that for both sides, it's nice to have somebody that cares about you more than you care about them. The reason this happens has nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with the fact that hot people have options and are fickle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:32 PM
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Yeah, but if I think I'm an alright guy, and let you decide for yourself what you think of me, isn't that a little less demanding of the other person to actively identify with these traits you think you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:28 PM
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I think the problem is that even the best intending feminist still doesn't really want to deal with men's dating issues, so it's not a very welcoming community for men, particularly white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:22 PM
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You could imagine where this would go wrong right? Like, imagine some crazy feminist that describes themselves as someone who "has good boundaries" when really, they're just an asshole to everyone for the smallest slight. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:20 PM
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I would say asian men are paranoid as well if they think a white dude can walk up to an asian girl and be like "hey you want this bwc girl" and that because they're asian they just fold instantly. It's definitely not the case. lol I think it's more common than you think for pretty much any white woman who dates a black dude to have some weird fantasy about bbc even if it's not stated out loud. Either that or they have this weird idea that black men are more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:15 PM
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I think that people project this depersonalization on anyone who likes to get a little kinky about controversial things, but that it's not usually the case. I'm sure there's plenty of times a girl has rejected a guy for "fetishizing" when really he was just horny and still saw her as a person outside of being horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:12 PM
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See how when white men even try to defend themselves from this it's seen as weak and pathetic? I don't even blame people for thinking that because it's really not a big deal. Except, for some reason, people want to demonize white men for exploiting the same "I have a bigger dick than *insert race of men*" hierarchy by going for asian women. lol I'm also just frustrated that I'm a white dude with a pretty big one, probably bigger than most black dudes, but they would probably still fetishize a bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:25 PM
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I think what you're not understanding is that the male loneliness epidemic is what turns men to the right in the first place. Men are told that they are entitled for wanting sex and love. Men are told to pull themselves up by their bootstraps when it comes to dating. Why are you then surprised that they tell everyone else to do the same about the issues that don't affect them? If you are alienated from your community because they see you as an asexual non-human oppressor, you're not going to fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:16 PM
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I think that even if you come in with the most fetishy intentions, you can't help as a fellow human to not also see the individual human standing in front of you. It's just fun to say horny stuff about race when you're horny. No white dude who successfully gets with asian women is purely fetishizing them. Of course you have to engage with the person. I would argue that this "fetishization" is no different from simply being attracted to hot people. Would you call it fetishization if I'm drawn to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:07 PM
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My philosophy is that people aren't good at describing themselves, so the more descriptors that you self-identify as, the more likely you aren't describing yourself accurately. It's okay to not know how to describe yourself if you let the way you act speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:01 PM
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Yes, but that person is not only nice just because they don't identify with anything else. Maybe they just want to keep their options open for how people perceive them rather than put themselves in a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:40 PM
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No man gets a sexual prime the way a woman does. Even the hottest men pale in comparison to the sheer potential that a hot young woman has.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:30 PM
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Or maybe people just think "I'm nice" and everything else speaks for itself? Like, being a nice person should get you in the door so that the other person can see for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:27 PM
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I would argue that this depersonalization never happens. I don't think believing asian women act a certain way or have a certain set of values is fetishization. That's outside the realm of sexuality. Nobody gets turned on by saying "oh my god that asian woman is so traditional" lol. Sure, it's weird to generalize, but I wouldn't call that fetishization. Now, on the other hand, if you say, damn that asian woman probably has a tight... you know. That's fetishization. I would still argue that even …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:21 PM
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That's pretty easy. You wouldn't like having to approach women and getting rejected over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:14 PM
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Aren't we all the main character in our own life though? You can't view yourself from any other person's perspective in a literal sense of being able to see through their eyes or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:12 PM
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When I was 19 I was a virgin and not for lack of trying. Are you telling me that I had some sort of advantage over high school girls who had sex 10+ times just because I was older? I would imagine they were much more experienced and wise to the game than I was even at 19. If we're talking about grape, then of course that's bad. Then you'll say, "Well any sex that happens with an underaged person is grape! Not with their same aged peers though!" like what? I just disagree that there's any advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:35 PM
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At 19 that's what I did to lose my virginity. lol I'm 28 now, and I've had sex at least 20 times now (for free lol) I think... It could be better, but it could also be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:29 PM
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I understand. I was just venting to a woman. lol People would probably say I was creepy if I tried to date a high schooler at 19, but my experience level was probably more in line with them anyway. Idk it's a controversial subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:26 PM
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What frustrates me sometimes is that I didn't lose my virginity until I was 19. Up until that point, I was probably much more innocent than the girls I went to high school with while they were in high school. My high school peers while they were in high school could probably run circles around even 19 year old me socially. So, to act like age tells you if someone is easily manipulated or a master manipulator in my opinion is inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:23 PM
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I would say a lot of psychological harm comes from the fact that a billion people will tell you how bad it is after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:19 PM
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Okay yes, manipulation can be traumatizing. Now what about being manipulated by a 23 year old versus a 17 year old amplifies the trauma from manipulation? Do you really think it's that much worse from the manipulated person's perspective? Both of those situations are equally bad. Also, you can approach someone for sex in good faith. It doesn't have to automatically be manipulative if there's an age gap. I get that the subject is not teen drug use, but I bet that you don't have the same outrage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:01 PM
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Maybe not "because they're easy" but I'm sure there are many black men who have said that phrase if you take that part out. lol American born asian women aren't any easier than white women in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:56 PM
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No, but it implies it. Like, what's the difference in saying you have an asian girl preference or a fetish in this case? If I have an asian girl preference, I'm still going to be going out there to find an asian woman that I see as an asian woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:53 PM
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That's honestly a good idea. Just do one cold approach a month when you see a girl you really like. You're right that you can get a reputation if you do it too often. You can just be honest and say "I saw you and I would have really regretted it if I didn't say hi".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:51 PM
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It's really more like sport, like sure you can take the L, but you're there to win. Even the guys who try to get into that outcome independence mindset are just lying to themselves. They still wanna win and they're using that mindset to try to win. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:47 PM
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You can get manipulated into sex at any age. I'm not convinced that younger girls are any more naive than older ones because I've heard the horror stories here of men creeping on them since they were very little. I agree that trying to take their virginity if you're just going to hit it and quit it is gross, but if you end up spending your whole life with that person, then that's not as gross. I know people say that stuff about how the frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until a certain age, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:44 PM
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By who though? If it's not against a law, say screw the people that want you to feel like a creep for trying to meet your romantic needs. You know that what you want is mutually good. You should act that way. If you hold yourself back you're just letting them win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:53 AM
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I got lucky here and there, but it truly pales in comparison to what women get on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:51 AM
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We do agree on things, but you create strawmans about what I believe to separate your perspective from mine. I can agree that anyone 22+ should not be actively pursuing high schoolers. That doesn't mean that I think every instance of a high schooler choosing to sleep with someone older than that is not their choice above all else. There's no magic manipulation tactics that only work if you're older. Like, you have to consider that a lot of 16 year old girls have probably had more sex than a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:48 AM
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For me, I would like consistent sex. If you give me consistent sex, I'm very likely to consider a relationship with you. I would prefer to not have a one night stand, because that means I have to go out and do it all over again finding another woman. I would prefer if you at least be my FWB. It's annoying to always be trying to find someone new all the time and take a bunch more rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:30 AM
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I just don't really like people to know my business romantically by being a regular somewhere. It feels like even more awkwardness to tolerate to try to approach a girl and express myself in front of other people that I'm not interested in, including the random men there. I like a locked in one on one interaction where we block out the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:24 AM
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If that holds you back, you will never find a girl. It might be terrible odds, but it's better than 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:21 AM
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Again, that's where we agree. If they're actually innocent as a 2 year old, then fine. Most of them aren't though, but they're portrayed as if they are when it comes to relationships to slightly older men. I'm mostly saying that if you're a rebellious teenager, you shouldn't be traumatized if one of the rebellious things you do is dating an older guy. You made that choice. You were not somehow unable to make choices on who you could date, and it's actually messed up that you're made to feel that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:18 AM
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Oh okay so you're just a guy who doesn't have the guts step on a few toes I guess. lol I thought you were a girl saying it's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:08 AM
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The people who were unable to, did not have social media to confirm that. They just thought not having much sex is part of normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:07 AM
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It's only impressive to get women as a man. Getting men as a woman is like shooting fish in a barrel, but that doesn't stop new female rap artists from arguing that it's impressive. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:04 AM
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How else am I supposed to do it if I have no women friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:00 AM
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Encourage men to pursue women without having the intention of pursuing women though, so the man doesn't seem "desperate". I think a lot of people don't understand how impossible of a task this is. Outcome independence is a ridiculous concept. Like, okay... I don't care about the outcome, now what motivates me to do the scary thing and talk to the girl in the first place? If I truly don't care about the outcome, I should just be content to sit inside, right? Yet, somehow, I'm supposed to magicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:56 AM
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At no point in the history of humankind have the primary or majority of relationships been formed by men walking up to a complete stranger out of the blue and trying to date her. Where do you think they were formed then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:53 AM
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I think it's just a hot guy yapping that creates the illusion of genuineness for women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:43 AM
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With cold approaches being dead (which is a good thing, as no more cold approaches makes for a safer society and less creeps) Or maybe it makes people more creepy because they have no social skills to be able to cold approach? Oh... idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:07 AM
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I'm more frustrated that 16 year olds are described as innocent little girls. When I was 16 I was a virgin and would remain a virgin for the next 3 years. Meanwhile you have girls at my school saying a guy is a loser if he doesn't lose his virginity by 17. That sure does sound like something a small child would say doesn't it? Super innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:03 AM
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Well black men exploiting the BBC stereotype are living casual sex life on easy mode as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:54 AM
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This comment makes it seem like it's a very subtle difference between fetishization and preference. Like, if I have a preference for asian women, I'm going to seek them out too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:53 AM
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There are 20 year olds that look 14 and vice versa. I'm saying that when you start to get to those post-puberty ages, they start looking less like girls and more like women. If they're old enough to make the bad decision of getting a fake ID, they're old enough to make the bad decision of sleeping with an older dude, and it shouldn't be this traumatizing thing that people say it is any more than casual sex with anyone their age is. If they're having casual sex anyway, why do you think they deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:50 AM
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A 16 year old is not a child. You only say the word child because it exaggerates their level of immaturity to make it sound worse when they pass as an over aged person and they're able to get a fake ID. We're talking about girls who pass as older here, so really there's should be no difference in physical attraction to them versus any other girl who looks like she's 16 but is actually 23. Put it this way, I'm more upset that the 16 year old girls that I knew when I was 16 are described as these …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:42 AM
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I was an innocent 16 year old. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 19. Until I was 19, I was much more innocent than those young girls from my high school that would go out and get drunk, smoke weed, and do other drugs. To say otherwise is completely ridiculous. Even the point when I was 19 before I lost my virginity I was more innocent than them. I really don't understand what people are protecting those young people from when they make their decisions themselves. I can understand if the gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:38 AM
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What is that attention signaling? That they genuinely like the person? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:21 PM
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Well, for example, I think a lot of white women have a black men fetish. Most of the time people who say "white women shouldn't fetishize black men" are just seen as racist for not allowing this to happen. Meanwhile, the people trying to seperate asian women and white men are seen as these purveyors of social justice!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:17 PM
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I want to reiterate on something you said: It makes me wonder if this was the thought process of the man than sexually assaulted me when I was 8. Liking a girl that passes as older is not the same as liking an 8 year old. We're talking about girls who pass to the point they can get fake IDs. This is the age range I'm referencing. An 8 year old is not looking like a full grown woman in any part of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:12 PM
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8 is most definitely prepubescent, which I said was considered a child. To be clear, I think 16 is a fair age of consent. Once you're able to drive, it makes sense that you can make your own choices at that point. I work with a lot of teens; you ever seen a pregnant 14 year old that is engaging in “sex work” ? I put it quotes because really just being paid to be raped by old ass men. I mean hey, sex work is basically being paid to get raped in general, so I don't disagree with that. I'm not talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:08 PM
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The trouble is that the attractive guy is more likely to have a bunch of other women he's trying the same stuff and succeeding with, so the likelihood of it being genuine becomes even worse. Lovebombing has always implied that it's not genuine. When you are genuinely in love to the point of love bombing, you will fumble the interaction somehow because you care too much. So women basically only reward guys who don't care about them. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:52 PM
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To me even the worst case of fetishization doesn't necessarily mean you're dehumanizing them. Like you can be totally crazy in the bedroom about racializing your sex and then be a completely normal couple out in public and when you're both not horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:48 PM
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To me, if I'm understanding fetishization correctly, a fetish doesn't have to loom over the entire relationship dynamic. You can have a normal conversation with your partner as a normal human, while in the bedroom doing some freaky stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:47 PM
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Yeah, but there's a grey area, because in the bedroom, "fetishy" stuff happens right? because you're horny. That doesn't mean the entire relationship is based on that horny moment. You can still like someone as a person while sharing a fetish with them. We don't see the same outrage about white women fetishizing black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:44 PM
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I'm too old now to date minors, but if you're 21, you shouldn't be demonized in 4k on YouTube for still being attracted to high schoolers when you're barely out of high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:39 PM
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What even is the difference between fetishization and a physical preference? Am I just supposed to appreciate them physically without getting horny about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:57 PM
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Sureeeee you did. lol I just feel like people aren't as up in arms about black male white female relationships as they are about white male asian female relationships because it paints white men in a positive, highly masculine light. For some reason people don't have a problem with elevating black men on that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:55 PM
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I will try. Hopefully President Trump will see my comment. We want hot EAST asian women please(emphasis on the east part) Expedite their immigration process Mr. President. Thank you for reading Mr. President. hehehehehehe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:51 PM
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It's not really the same though, because a lot of asian women when they get into left leaning politics, will make a point to not date white men out of avoiding the perception of "fetishization".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:48 PM
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The difference is a guy who's really smooth with good delivery is probably not as worried about messing up. If a guy is worried about messing up, he cares more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:47 PM
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Well that's the thing, I think they're somewhat attracted to the carefree attitude even if it's "the right guy". I think even the right guy throws them off if he's genuinely head over heels in love with her. The problem is that on the other hand, the carefree guy probably doesn't care about them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:46 PM
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You have to understand that I was left leaning pretty much through all of high school until they started sympathizing with felons and pushing transgenderism. I'm 28 now for reference. If they literally dropped anti-cop rhetoric and didn't push transgenderism as a scientific fact, I'd still be right there with them. I honestly don't even care all that much about immigration as long as they aren't in the cartel or wanted for murder and other crimes. It would be nice to have more of a male female b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:38 PM
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Yeah but I don't think you'll find many Asian women born in America who will take kindly to dirty talk about their Asianness. They'd rather think that they just ended up with a white guy by pure coincidence and they fell in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:33 PM
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Yet, no one seems to care when they talk about white women and BBC fetishization. Oh my gosh white men are the objects of attraction? Shut it down! On the other hand, yeah girl get that BBC! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:31 PM
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Ugly guys fall in love quickly because of their own desperation and lack of options. When you’re dying of thirst, you’ll probably chug the first water bottle you find. And attractive guys don't fall in love at all because there will always be another pretty girl around the corner to cheat on their partner with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:29 PM
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It is a turn on. The problem is that people want desperation from attractive people who have infinity options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:27 PM
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Yeah honestly when you are pretending to be a nice guy ironically, women are more likely to take it the way that nice guys wish they would. It's kinda bizarre. They basically reward not being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:25 PM
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In my opinion, the stronger your delivery, the less genuine you are. If you're super genuine you'd feel like "oh shit I better not fuck this up, this girl is the greatest girl in the world and I only have once chance".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:23 PM
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I mean, I voted for Trump so I'm not exactly helping my case here. I just want the deep state to be executed you know? If they exist. I don't know if Trump will do it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:21 PM
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I think what you have to understand about immigration pushers is that making things better for a country is not their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:17 PM
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Oh so know men and women are equal in crime rates for the sake of this argument? lol I've heard enough. Bring in the big booty latinas and east asian chicks and restrict everyone else. *pounds gavel*
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:03 PM
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These are all terms I'm willing to accept. Big booty latinas and cute asian girls only.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:02 PM
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I disagree if they were born in America. I wish they did though. lol Maybe it's the case in those countries, but I've never been there, so I don't quite know how extreme the fetishization is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:00 PM
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I honestly think women are more likely to fall for a guy when they are obviously faking their romantic gestures than when it's genuine. It's like genuineness is too heavy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:57 PM
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I feel like men's horniness is demonized by calling it fetishization. Like, yes I'm horny for hot asian women, but I'm also horny for hot white women. I can be attracted to the features of both and be attracted to the stereotypical features of their race, as well as their individual characteristics that make them hot. That doesn't make me racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:53 PM
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We can compromise for big booty latinas and cute east asian girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:50 PM
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I wanted to respond to you on my post, but it just got deleted for "being about looks". So, I'll respond to you here. Obviously, on the surface women having more standards than just looks seems less shallow than men only having standards for looks. However, men not stating their standards beyond looks upfront might mean that they have more of a willingness to explore the depth of the individual rather than just having a deep list of standards. On the other hand, having a long list of standards u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:47 PM
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No, not at all, and the ironic thing is that you sorta discover that the girls that really really like you are willing to compromise on that. So, it's sorta like if you do less and she still likes you, that means she likes you more. That's just like the argument the girl makes in the video for what women should do in making him feel like he's lucky to be around you. I might disagree slightly with that woman in the video, but it's the same principle. I think she has the cause and effect mixed up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:01 PM
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I feel like my stance on this is reasonable. If it gets me banned sobeit. lol Yeah I don't like people grouping 18 year olds with the word children. I think the people who do that are either still in high school, or they are overprotective parents who will always think of their daughter as their "child".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:37 PM
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I sound like a total pedo whenever I make this argument, but I absolutely hate when people call teenagers "children". For me the word child implies somebody prepubescent and particularly like a toddler or maybe someone up to the age of 10. I think at 12 years old you're not a "child" anymore. Then you get to 16 and you're definitely not a child anymore. I don't know when I've ever heard getting fake IDs to buy alcohol, smoking weed, and having sex with your same aged peers be described as "child…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:50 PM
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I feel like this is way too specific of a thing to be a general concept that applies across all of "team women".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 03:02 PM
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I feel like overprotective fathers and brothers are a little creepy. Like what, are you trying to fuck your daughter/sister by scaring all the men away? Somebody has to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:57 PM
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I felt like this about a girl in high school. She didn't like me back. I tried and tried and tried so romantically with poems and gifts and trying to express how I feel to her, but she had none of it. It kills the magic of it when you do all that and it fails. You'd think in an ideal world if you felt so strongly about a person, they would naturally reflect it back. That's not guaranteed. Due to this not being guaranteed, we can only flail about until we find a girl who likes us back, and it mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:50 PM
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For me it was all the women sleeping around and not being interested in relationships that made me say "okay, I'll try to have casual sex". I would have married my high school crush if it were that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:39 PM
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I don't disagree with any of that. The difficult thing with describing what I'm talking about is, it would require a much more extremely bad situation for men for me to feel like them using violence is justified. Like, the society we live in now at least as far as men vs women issues go doesn't need to be violently rebelled against. That is extreme. The point is though, in the hypothetical situation where it does get so bad, the men would be needed to violently overthrow that system.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:34 AM
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I don't think I can explain my point very well without it sounding bad, but I would say we can explore what it means to be "properly incentivized". How much abuse do you think would justify using the physical strength he is naturally endowed with to free him? Let's say society gets to the point where they put men in cages and women come to choose them as breeding stock. At that point, if a group of men were to coordinate and rebel against that system, physically and violently overthrowing it, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:30 AM
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I think it depends on the person. A lot of people really do calculate all the angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:17 AM
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I don't think 10 years is that bad. 15-20 years starts to be weird, and 30 years is very weird. 40 years is just ridiculous because at that point you're in your 60s if your girl is barely above the age of consent. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:13 AM
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I do not believe people are inherently good. Even if they are, taking people's inherent goodness for granted is bound to be grating and create tensions. You are putting yourself in a position where you feel entitled to people's goodness, regardless of whether you return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:08 AM
2

Women thinking they don't have equal rights at this point in society places the blame for this lack of equal rights on men. Meanwhile, I would say everything is completely equal, if not favoring women at this stage in society, so demanding more is just poking the bear. Except, the bear is completely docile and continues to yield, despite being physically capable of doing something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:01 AM
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I get that you're making the moral argument that "oh my god men would be such horrible people if they threatened us with violence to keep us in line" but that's not really what it's about. It's about you recognizing that men with good will, could potentially not be that way. It's about being humble yourself. Of course a man throwing his weight around is not right, but you should recognize and respect when a man doesn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:51 AM
1

I'd get it if they have a body, but if you get immersed in the idea that an AI companion is a real person, you are an NPC. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:39 AM
1

Christ is above the man and the woman, but as far as the man and woman are concerned, the man leads the woman. Yes, it's important to be humble towards a higher power, but that doesn't mean the man is not meant to lead over the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:52 AM
6

I disagree completely with that. I think a woman would be turned off by an attractive man if he confessed to using a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:40 AM
9

For me, the perception isn't all that different from women just sleeping around in general. The only question is, why would the woman be paying for it when she can probably get it for free? But yeah, for me, women hoeing around for free or paying for it, has the same connotation. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:38 AM
15

Both. You're taking advantage of the mercy of men, and asking for more. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:35 AM
0

Both those threads can be valid, because we live in a society where it's highly unlikely that any danger should come upon you by a man unless if he's trying to throw his life away and get thrown in jail. This post is describing a situation where we've decided to throw away the law and enslave women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:33 AM
1

Yes, but in that case, Christ is still the leader of the disciples. Just because he serves his people, doesn't mean that his disciples don't still place him in the leadership position. So therefore, the wife should be perceiving things from the perspective of the disciples, who see Christ as their leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:28 AM
1

I agree that I'm sorta being the stereotype of dismissing these things, but idk I've been through a lot in life. It's all about how you decide to perceive what happened. I can't imagine any situation where I get my dick wet where I let that traumatize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:22 PM
1

To be fair, I don't think people are gay to be trendy, but I think it's very common to be trans to be trendy. You can't really fake being gay. If you like the same sex, that's just the way it is. Being trans though, there's nothing really to bounce that feedback loop off of you know? Like you can prove you're gay because you might date someone of the same sex. You can't prove you're trans because everyone can just say they are trans. The more they make kids aware of transgenderism, the more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:19 AM
1

It makes sense that if you're a grown man and you don't want to have sex with a woman, you'll throw her off of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:01 AM
1

I'm 28, and I've never really felt like I "figured things out". Every time I got laid it felt like I got lucky. I wish something clicked any of those times where I was like "ok this is what I do for next time!" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:00 AM
2

Should you be allowed to ride a go-cart on the highway? They have four wheels just like a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:58 AM
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The point is that the 25 year old can do better with someone closer to her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:52 AM
1

They don't need to teach about homosexuality and transgenderism. Let people come to that on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 01:49 AM
-1

Throughout that process, I feel like everyone was more polite back then before social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:29 PM
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It depends on what you mean by unfairly applied. I feel that women are more likely to be physically dominated by the opposite sex, so some uneven application of these principles make sense. I feel like a lot of guys will be like "oh I was so traumatized when she said keep the condom off" just to try to make a point. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:27 PM
2

As a man I have to talk to a woman at some point. The way my life is setup now, if I don't go out of my way to do that, I get nothing. It's not about your convenience. It's about my necessity to find a partner, and the right one will welcome my approach. I just might have to bother you first to find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:11 PM
1

The culture was better back then. Now we have an anti-trust society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:06 PM
1

I'm 28, when I was 24 I dated a girl who was 34, and I have to say that I related to her more than the people my age. She was so much more straight forward. It didn't even feel like there was a 10 year age gap. I felt like we were companions in age in terms of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:05 PM
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I'm just having a hard time imagining a situation where a man feels like he has no choice where he's not overpowered by a physically stronger man. Like, that would be traumatizing. Some girl saying to keep the condom off? hell yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:51 PM
3

Well, that's true, but passport broing it is easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:44 PM
1

I feel the phenomenon of "getting shut out" socially, is what's impossible to overcome with charisma. Like, you can be as charismatic as possible, but if people decide to try to shut you out, it's very hard to spin your social wheels to get out of that hole. This is why I say not getting shut out is more of a status than a skill thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:42 PM
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The important thing is that they're both happy. Even the decision making can be allocated to other people by the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:08 PM
1

My aunt and uncle both work for reference, so that didn't stop them from being abusive to each other. I'm not saying that's all you need to vet, but it's a good start, and I would just say that even with the best vetting process, you're doomed to potentially pick wrong. The problem with a super strict vetting process is that the person who passes might be even more of a psycho in their ability to mimic everything you're looking for. Maybe vet is the wrong word. You should spend enough time with …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:57 PM
1

I mean you're right on that, I just feel it's unrealistic to stop those really pervy countries from being really pervy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:44 PM
1

If you want a family with kids, you want a guy who wants you to stay home. If you want to be a swinger and have crazy sex parties, then get a guy who wants you to work. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:41 PM
1

I could imagine there are some countries where it's really bad, but in those countries, I also feel like they're less likely to enforce anything against it due to the sheer amount of those representing the cat calling majority. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:39 PM
1

For sure, but I think a lot of the opposition to it would go down if they kept sex ed about how the biological male and biological female are designed to reproduce with each other and how that works. Some people will always be a little weirded out by teaching minors about sex, but it would get more support if it was just about straight sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:34 PM
1

You can get abused in any relationship, but if he wants you to stay at home, and he believes the kids need a mother figure who is actually their mother in their lives, then he's probably an alright guy. To expand upon you can be stuck and abused in any relationship, think about the situation where you both work. You both work, so more money is coming in, so you might think you can take out a big loan on a bigger house. Now you're both trapped by this new standard of living. Another thing you sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:30 PM
1

Well, I would say on the other side you have the MGTOW-type men talking about the horror stories of dating women. You need to separate "your man" from "men". I legitimately believe that you're more likely to find a good man if he WANTS to make you a stay-at-home mom than if he wants you to work. It just makes sense to me. The fact that he shows that intention shows that he's not there for the easy sex and extra paycheck to help with the bills. Idk though, you can always frame stuff good or bad. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:12 PM
1

Did you really feel raped when she said not to put a condom on or when you were fucked at 3am or are you just using those situations as a debate point? Like, did you proceed to then fuck her without a condom after that? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:58 PM
1

I don't think anyone is trying to nuke straight sex ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:54 PM
1

I still don't agree with that. I feel like people yapping is a minor inconvenience. lol Now, if they come up to you and start forcing themselves on you, that's when there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:49 PM
1

I don't think I'm naive and ignorant to the horrors of this world, but I think that if you go into something half-hearted, it's doomed to fail anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:47 PM
1

I was responding to your "cat calls and groping are 99% left without consequences". I was assuming that you were calling for more punishment for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:40 PM
1

I'm sure if you simply asked and you're not trans, fat, or horribly ugly, you'd easily satiate your desires. Hell, even if you are fat and ugly the man might give it a go if you just offer it up. Trans on the other hand, it might take a special kind of "straight" person to satisfy that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:35 PM
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Groping should be punished, but cat calls shouldn't. I'm not a cat caller or anything, but imprisoning cat callers opens up a can of worms about degrees of cat calling and policing speech that I would not want to ever happen. Like, what if the cat caller gets lucky and he's an attractive man and the girl actually likes him? You can't just imprison people for being ugly and having no rizz. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:30 PM
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I think the only problem comes when men orient their ego around their ability to fulfill their sex drive. This is what creates the suffering. You can take that strong drive and put it towards some competitive goal and you'll feel a lot more content. I agree though that those people who think male sexuality is "celebrated and encouraged" don't realize that their own disgust towards it is actually the mainstream thought and not the celebration that they're alleging exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:26 PM
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Usually, a leader will allocate duties to the subordinate. Sure, the woman might be the executive of the household, but the man is the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:17 PM
0

I feel that you can be a slave and also be a leader depending on how you view the duties of leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:13 PM
1

Okay here's where maybe we can agree. I don't think you should marry someone or have a family if you don't trust them enough to have your best interests at heart. If you're worried about someone paying your bills having power of you, then you don't trust them. Having a failsafe to compensate for every possible bad outcome means that you're already poised to get out of there and not thinking about having a long-term future with that person. I think what you're doing is the female version of objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:08 PM
1

I would say even if my friends said my girl wasn't hot, I wouldn't care and I would keep dating them. Actually, it's been more often that my friend would date a girl, and I'd realize how she has some redeeming features if I didn't think she was hot before. Women are very quick to drop somebody almost like it's not even a human being that they're getting rid of if their friends say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:56 PM
1

How much does that food you're cooking cost? How much does the rent or the house you're living in cost? How much do all the rest of those bills cost? How convenient would that be to put all of that into the hands of another person and not have to worry about it? You think not having to pay bills isn't a worthy price to throw in an extra load of laundry? The problem is, you've been conditioned to think "work good, chores around the house bad". I've done both because I'm lucky enough now where I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:53 PM
1

I do unpaid domestic labor for myself every day. I can't imagine it would suddenly feel like slave labor if I had to do it for two people if that meant someone went to work for me. Do you feel like you need to get paid to do your own dishes and laundry? You feel like the man is thinking that your domestic labor is worthless for not paying you, but you're also seeing the man going to work as worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:42 PM
1

I feel like that's not the case if you're the kinda guy that goes out for one purpose and that is to find one girl to bring home. lol With 1v1 rizz it can be possible to be a rizzler without developing a big social circle. However, I do think having the social circle is probably more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:38 PM
2

I want to say people were less shallow back then. I'm 28 now. I used to date this girl that was 34 when I was 24, and she just seemed so much more chill and down to earth compared to the girls my age who seemed to be so standoffish like they were on team girl rather than team us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:35 PM
1

Damn, he should if he's a stay at home dad. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:48 AM
2

Can I ask you something? Is there a specific girl you're talking to right now where the conversation is going well that's got you feeling enlightened? I would advise you to not get your hopes up until you meet her in person. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:46 AM
-1

Paying for domestic labor implies that the woman does not like her family and should not have had a family in the first place if she wants to be paid to maintain the humans she's spawned into the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:44 AM
1

If you feel the need to be compensated to do nice things for your partner, you don't truly care about that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:43 AM
10

There's nothing to calibrate to if you aren't considered hot. You can make all the right moves, but they're all wrong if you aren't hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:37 AM
2

Don't tell me you're sending 50 messages in a row to girls without a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:36 AM
1

So I'm just supposed to arbitrarily love the first girl who loves me back and I don't really have much choice in the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:31 AM
1

What do you think about the idea that I think if you can't choose someone to love and that love naturally be reflected back, that it's sorta just arbitrarily loving the first girl who loves you back and not real love at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:29 AM
2

I have internalized this since high school, but it sorta scarred me for life. I had this idea of love where if I love somebody, it should naturally be reciprocated. If love can happen one way without the other person liking that person, then how is love special at all? There's no such thing as true love if you can't choose who you want to be with, and that love to be naturally reflected. Otherwise you just arbitrarily fall in love with the first girl who happens to "love you back".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:25 AM
1

Okay I guess I just won't love anyone then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:21 AM
12

*a hot person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:20 AM
4

How would half their dating issues disappear? Now they can't convince anyone of anything so what's the point of even trying? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:18 AM
1

I don't think they're the level of hive mind that girls are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:45 AM
1

In my example, I'm thinking of a guy who's not hot, but is hot to the individual girl, but her friends make her doubt his hotness. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 03:27 AM
-1

I'm just saying I bet the billionaires associate with all the other billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:56 PM
-1

If you don't like living in a house for free, eating for free, and caring for people you should care about like your man and your children, then you're free to go work for a boss and be single. If that's a burden for you, then don't get a man or a family. A man and kids should not just be your trophy that you flex around but when they actually need something you say "oh well I'm above doing anything for them!". Good luck with your kids who grow up feeling like a waste of space because you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:55 PM
1

Did you forget the part where you're living in a house and receiving food for free? Also, did you forget that you're caring for people that you should care about? Or, is your man and family just a burden to you? That's okay. Be single and make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:53 PM
1

I would say 20 years ago, people weren't as open about their hoeing as they are today with social media. It's more that men 20 years ago just assumed the best of women because they didn't have any social media showing them a different perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:50 PM
0

I'm sure billionaires know a lot of other billionaires too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:48 PM
1

They like that the crazy woman is having sex with them. That's really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:45 PM
1

I actually like voice in women as well, so I can understand this. I'm not so much a fan of country voices in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:13 PM
1

I don't think men are influenced on the same level by the opinion of their friends. Women will go from highly invested to "never mind" just because their friend said "he gives me the creeps". lol Men just want other men to feel their woman is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:07 PM
3

This comment thread describes what I'm trying to say well. When you have high status, it's other people who are trying to use their "good social skills" with you to gain your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:00 PM
2

Maybe I'm just changing my definition of status to fit any situation that implies success, but for me, that guy who "has high status" but struggles with women, doesn't really have high status. If it's just like "oh that guy comes from a famous family!" but he's just an afterthought, his status when it comes to women is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:58 PM
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Social skills can mean so many different things. When you say someone has no social skills, it could mean anything from minor quirks to learning disability level dysfunction. I believe that most of the time when people are rejected for a lack of social skills, it's for some minor "he just gives me a weird vibe" reason and not because that person can't function in society and socialize. The reality is you do get more leeway to be socially dumb if you're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:53 PM
4

Well, I guess I'm saying that if you have to go out of your way to meet lady friends, it's functionally the same as being a lone wolf even if you have an all male friend group. I'm actually saying that women prefer the known guy, and that no amount of charisma can compete with being known versus being unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:34 AM
2

Girl's idea of justice is usually "Why do the school authorities pick on the school bully? Don't they know he had a tough childhood and his dad beat him?" Guy's idea of justice is: "Yes! Beat that bully's ass school system!" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:10 AM
1

What were the demographics of this all girls private school?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:06 AM
0

What about when men ask women directly for sex? Who's immature then? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:04 AM
1

Is it not the same for girls in terms of being boring if not even more so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:02 AM
1

You could say this comes from the relative physical strength levels of the two groups. You're much more likely to pick your battles wisely if you think you aren't the strongest in the room, versus if you have a big ego and think you're the biggest stud in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:00 AM
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