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This is dumb! Young women consistently prefer men two years older than they are. A young woman wants a young man.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/22 08:30 PM
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I mean historically and throughout most societies, even if work has been divided men and women both worked but in the farm. The tradwife life has been a modern luxury of the 50s. My one grandma sort of did that but she was actually the accountant and helped my grandpa with his company. She ended up quite miserable. Many women that live like that end up feeling like their only identity is that of a mum which can negatively impact parenting as well.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 09:08 AM
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Well, if she hooked up so fast with you, why wouldn’t she do it with someone else? It’s usually a very specific type of women that do that very fast and catch feelings fast, usually people who are not in it for the long run.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:37 AM
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Don’t have any relationships at all. You seem to work very differently from other humans, so then it might be hard to understand relationships.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 08:24 AM
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“We have an intense connection” “She doesn’t want to have sex yet” “She doesn’t really want a full relationship yet” This feels kind of immature on your behalf, she acts reasonably. She is honest and doesn’t play games. This all sounds great to me. As of the ex, well you have dated two weeks. We don’t seem to know much. It is a bit weird . The rest is not.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 11:41 PM
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Don’t you have that to parents or friends?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 11:38 PM
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Not true, the other person is not just a supply for intimate desires bla bla. Of course love is not fully hundred percent unconditional, because in the end if someone drains you over and over again then you stop liking the person and you don’t care about them as much anymore. A lot of parents and children break contact when the child is self reliant. So what is the big difference here?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 11:37 PM
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Again, narcissistic mentality.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 11:35 PM
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Across four studies, the researchers found that the dominance scenarios were considered more sexually attractive, although dominant John was regarded as less likeable and not desired as a spouse. Taken at face value, this study seems to support the sexual attractiveness of the dominant alpha male over the submissive beta male. But not so fast. In a follow up study, the researchers isolated various adjectives to pinpoint which descriptors were actually considered sexually attractive. While they f…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 06:35 PM
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This is actually backed by a study! Let me find it… While women prefered ”le bad boy” over insecure, shy, sensitive guys women prefered men that were confident and sensitive the most.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 06:33 PM
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I think Reddit is not allowed for minors, go back to your teenage room now. Afraid of cooties?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:00 PM
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I recommend you to go to the psych and get yourself assessed for narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:57 PM
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”Make them say it”. No a lot of them say so Because they want to lol? And ”women live for emotional validation”. Women a bit more than men maybe but everyone needs that. Men seem to love it even more! This post is some cluster B bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:56 PM
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Why not? It’s seen as a trait indicating lack of reliability and that she won’t be as good of a mother. I’ve seen this. Not nuanced enough of course in my opinion, but a lot of people do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:53 PM
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We don’t even think of men as walking dicks. When some weird men talk about ”getting pussy” I am in disbelief.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 01:56 PM
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Younger is of course subjective. I don’t call 28 or so Young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:08 PM
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From where?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:52 PM
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It maybe depends on country and societal class. If America is like in the movies I can understand if it is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:55 PM
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You say that women think it doesn’t matter for them and then realise. Sounds more like a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:42 PM
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Oh no, I meant the opposite? The older guys do not pair up with younger women even if they have the option because goals and personalities tend to be incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:28 PM
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I don’t know what nutcases you deal with. I just don’t see people dating or prefering younger women other than looks. Younger women are also ”less mature” bla bla and most men don’t think with their dicks beyond a certain age and above a certain social class. And I say this as a young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:09 PM
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Still, women care about their looks. To think we ignore it sounds like male projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:01 PM
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Yeah probably that’s Why so many women have anorexia, body dysmorphia, the beauty industry is such a multi million dollar industry. Looks first can mean different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:44 AM
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No, according to TRP: leave the grass and touch and fertilise the next. Repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:54 AM
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Wooow the discovery of the year, looks and fertility fade with age. Does TRP think women don’t know this? Meanwhile beauty industry and anti aging products. For men that are 18 maybe or super white trash. Most people say that personality goes first because that matters in the long run and to live together and such but there needs to be attraction of course. Yeah looks matter, a lot probably, but not as much as you make it out to be. In fact, to much focus on looks can make you attract the wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:50 AM
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I don’t know man. It’s easier for women at 30 who are a typical 30 year old where I live to partner up with men of a somewhat similar age and that are educated compared to for example me who is 24, slim, reasonably attractive, but during my education. That young women are ”objectively” better might just mean that is more close to their searches in pornography…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:46 AM
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Yeah haha they make no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:42 AM
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Probably because you are young? How are normal relarionships supposed to work? Don’t you think your parents had sex at that age?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:41 AM
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Yeah and men are hornier than women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:38 AM
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Sure but What is even the wall? That the beauty of youth fades? Well of course, but that’s not exactly news. Point is, it doesn’t really seem to be important in practice. Are there? Men are hornier than women are and think most women look good to a degree women don’t. Someone wrote it is more about commitment and that men value beauty and that a 50 year old man would marry a 20 year old: I mean obviously if a man wants many children he might not go for a woman that is 40. No shit. But men that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:13 AM
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Everyone should touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:07 AM
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What’s the deal with the wall? Honestly I feel like men get their dicks hard for about any woman so why is female appereance treated as such a big thing even here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:07 AM
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Or women simply like ugliness lol! No but, the same statistic that people complain over shows that women message guys in accordance with how they rate them, versus men who message as a linear function of attractiveness.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/22 07:59 AM
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Less bullshit and more trusting sounds like that yes. Very Young women are so naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:51 AM
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In the sense that he rated women quite highly. But, I live in Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:05 PM
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I think the average age gap is about 2 years, so I don’t think that it is swaying the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:04 PM
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I guess, but usually a very brief one. I’m doing a polytech one right now, just so that I can get a job, and then focus on finishing my masters when I’m older or along the way. X-ray nurse is what it is called here. Maybe it’s a different name elsewhere. Europe? I think we are less money and status oriented than the US actually. Not snobbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:01 PM
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I guess that comes off as kind. Many parents don’t teach their kids that, or think that they should not meddle in their kids life and let them learn by experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:16 PM
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He Said women won’t stick around with men if the men sleep around. He is correct, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 03:15 PM
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Oh it is a red flag, but that’s not so easy for women to understand without experience thereof? For many he just seems like a really great person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:58 PM
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Sure, but one is free to cut this person off immediately once they discover that the person has slept around etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:57 PM
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Well, you are saying to the other person to assume that everyone operates on the same mentality and that of course everyone is fucking everything that comes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:35 PM
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Some men prefer quality over quantity and think of the risk or downsides that casual sex includes. They also stop chasing constant validation. Maybe you are much younger than me (I’m 24, men I talk to I guess tend to be 2 years older approx). Edit: this was not casual sex I meant…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:29 PM
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No, most people aren’t having sex with multiple people at the same time. Wtf are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:18 PM
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Dating. Not fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:15 PM
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It isn’t separate things for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:11 PM
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No that isn’t the norm. I will exclude men with a to high amount of sexual partners or promiscious behaviour from my potential dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:08 PM
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Yes because at age 30 you should have matured. If a man had a ”hoe phase” in his teens, I don’t judge as much because his brain is not finished developing. The same way when I once had a 14 year old boy for counselling. He was essentially staring at my breasts the entire time and got a boner which he tried to hide. I didn’t bother because he is young and hadn’t learned to control it. If this was a man that was slightly older than me aka ”late 20s” I would have bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:07 PM
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It is the age of the father which mostly predicts autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:01 PM
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Half of couples who have issues conceiving do so because of the man. Plus overall… The sperm might exist but goes bad. 1/5 of men today have to low sperm counts. Male fertility is the crisis here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:00 PM
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Here in Sweden, the ideal is 180, that is 5’11, and the average height here. I think there is something about that area of height and even numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:54 PM
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Their feature sets the standard for what I find good looking on other people but obviously I still have an idea of what I find hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:53 PM
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But literally? Look into short vs long life strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:49 PM
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No, those old women looking for no strings attached want the younger guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:49 PM
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Well, as I said. Intelligence and income correlates with having a degree in Europe. They make decent money, but yes I know a lot of men that would not date a massage therapist. Our incomes are more equal by the way and these men definitely don’t date massage therapists. My dad is a lawyer and married my mother, high school teacher. Other male lawyers I know married female lawyers or women in finance, female lawyers with men in finance. If I look in my surrounding male physicians have married fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:34 PM
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More than male peers. I’m 24 now. I agree that you are not fully capable. Honestly maybe you are never fully capable!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:54 AM
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Well, you do you. It’s just more typically so that you will have a subset of women who think more like men in topics related to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:10 PM
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Porn contains real human beings Not a fan of cheating fantasies in general if someone is in a commited eelarionship but at least it is less real if fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:09 PM
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Most women tend to disagree. There is a certain subset of women who answer more like men in these types of answers or in regards to sexual matters in general. That is associated with higher testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:29 PM
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Why can’t you masturbate without porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:28 PM
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Oh absolutely and it is manwhore/promiscious behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:27 PM
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No but alpha monkry killed bt other male monkeys for murdering children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:25 PM
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Even among monkeys the betas once ganged up when the alpha didn’t act well and tried to murder children and I don’t know if they killed him or replaced him. This whole having huge harems I don’t think the betas would have accepted, they would have just overtrown him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:25 PM
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I don’t neccesarily mean all people that Follow the redpill. You can go to a trashbin and find good stuff or you can see it differently, but the whole bin is still trash. Nuance is not neccesarily the same as moral relativism though imo.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 01:06 PM
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Yes and that’s just telling about how out of touch they are with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:35 AM
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I think it was generous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 08:09 AM
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Why are people discussing how to cheat here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:54 AM
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Yes, it’s on the surface and shallow confusion thereof
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:51 AM
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But this is so wrong though. Abusive and dark triad men, I’d say narcissistic men in general, use love bombing at first, and do not show their dark sides but do show the asserriveness. The whole point is that they do change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:51 AM
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Women prefer toxic masculine over no masculinity at all, but women genuinely don’t prefer that. Women like men that are self assured bla bla but not psychopaths. But that’s also hard to distinguish for some. I think some women are easier fooled, and that’s the women the RP wants because they want women without spine they can abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:47 AM
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I think the money did more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:34 AM
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Their beta qualities which the RP normally hates if a guy is young increases, but it’s praised if he is older. Women don’t like immature men but all that is relative. Someone who is maybe 18 will probably complain that a 30 year old is boring but appreciate the ”maturity” of a 20 year old. Generally, no. Looks wise, absolutely no. Some guys peak at around 30 Because they lose baby fat in the face. But this idea that men get better with age is weird. Sexier definitely not. But women tend to value…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:34 AM
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Red pill tried to make something mythological of the already known ”don’t ask a woman her age”. Really…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:32 AM
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Yes. Morals, maturity, nuanced thinking.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/22 07:25 AM
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It brainwashes women into thinking they are only their looks so…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 05:18 PM
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I don’t know. I know men with options, who might have been more promiscious in their youth but would prefer spending their time in adulthood on purpose than to just sleep with whoever. I know good looking very handsome men who definitely have social skills who have turned women down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:14 PM
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No, it’s not what they tell me, it’s a generalisation if you so will. Maybe american culture is different. In Europe income correlates with intelligence and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:05 PM
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And most women would get a new man if he plays “dread game”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:43 AM
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Of course cheaters gonna cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:41 AM
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For me it is the same thing: Moderately. I need to be able to think that we can afford having children. Some ambition and purpose is attractive but doesn’t have to be fund in a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:38 AM
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Usually, their hand :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:35 AM
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Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:35 AM
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I slut-shame men too 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:29 AM
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No, in my social class they do care about career and income, not only paying bills and having a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:21 AM
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Eh irl men do care about that. This is just some horny barely adult men who have never had a relationship that claim that men don’t care about anything else than looks, Because they have only interacted with women through seeing her looks on the screen. In Sweden we have a saying that goes ”The outside gives the inside it’s chance, the inside gives the outside it’s shine”. It rhymes here. Well, guys in my country care about a woman’s resources for sure. Poor/stupid/uneducated and pretty? Won’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:19 AM
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Wtf is it that you are claiming? ”Most men would cheat if they could”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:12 AM
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I think many women don’t understand that they have responsive desire. Usually it is the woman with lower libido. Most common thing in therapy is to work towards the woman to ”just do it”. Usually it’s rarer to crave it spontaneously, but most are very happy having sex often when it is initiated towards them and they are being courted or turned onz
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:46 PM
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And those things might be relates to the lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:44 PM
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Many women have ”casual sex” in hope of commitment. Some do it for self validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:58 PM
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But you play games? What the. I think dread game only functions in a very very short term. Then women are fed up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:50 PM
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I would have wanted closure if I was treated like this
/r/ExRedPill31/08/22 09:02 PM
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No, that this tendency is somewhat more common in women but it’s two normal distribution curves that overlap, so it’s not THAT much a matter of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:38 PM
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I kind of hate this ”men this women that”, because in practice it is two overlapping normal distribution curves…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:48 PM
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Plenty? Yet there are much more wanting men of equal age plus 0-4 years. I’m still young I guess so I speak from my friend group and experience. Usually we are afraid older men only want us for our looks - we want to avoid sugar baby sugar daddy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:28 PM
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You are missing that it is young women often complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:00 PM
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”Men are turned on by hot women, women are turned on by being the hot woman.” Men are not only 100% visual. It is a big part of it yes, but! Male desire is very tied to the willingness of a woman, a woman showing she likes it, a woman being enthusiastic and so on. Basically feeling reassured that he isn’t a predator. Female desire is very narcissistic. Women want to be an object of desire. Courting, situations, male behaviours. But also relationship security sort of, the man being seen as a fit …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:29 PM
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Nope, it is the feeling of being an object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:28 PM
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You don’t want a woman that sleeps around. You want chastity… That’s fair - but you ”watch more porn that you should”. Porn is parasocial polygamy. Not exactly chaste yourself. What other expectations do you have?
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 02:10 PM
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I think the point here is only accepting a woman above what would be an attraction threshold. And even if tastes differ I think men probably assume there is some consensus?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:41 PM
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Right, but it is looks for the case of status not attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:47 PM
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Well, men find most women attractive, my point is whether factoring in attractiveness beyond the ”am I attracted to her or not”, seems to indeed be status based. So, in this case, a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:06 PM
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Yeah I assume That’s why men don’t want that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:20 PM
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Wait What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:19 PM
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Wait, how is dressing slutty a sign of status?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:38 PM
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You are. Ypu want a lot from a woman but will give nothing in return. You see women as a tool for your self fullfillment.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 02:24 PM
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It literally does.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 02:05 PM
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Go off speculation? There is a video, There are charges and he moved to Romania for this reason.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 02:04 PM
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You don’t. You want to use women as a pleasure tool.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 02:03 PM
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Hm I maybe formulated this wrongly. I meant is wanting an attractive partner more than what is attractive enough (and it doesn’t seem to make much difference physically) about gaining status from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:57 PM
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Yes this is more what I mean here, it’s about her looks as a status symbol, not that she has no other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:56 PM
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9 and 10 in what regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:23 PM
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Oh well, these weren’t the only factor or how to chose a woman but how her appereance is viewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:17 PM
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I am not american after all, well when the average approaches 6 feet, height looses it’s value like that I guess. The ideal is still considered 6 feet here (or 5’11 because that’s 180 and is an even number lol). But to have one trait that is socially desireable such as height isn’t hard and not status, it would be the whole paclage and I think it is more status for women if the partner is a surgeon than if he is taller than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:16 PM
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So it is indeed about status from other men pretty much. The question is why care so much about what other men think? Is it also maybe so that other women might find this man more attractive if he has an attractive partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:44 AM
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Not talking about the old men with young women i.e. trophy wife in the stereotypical sense but more just choosing someone so that others think positively. I mean, I am 2.5 years younger than my ex, we were both students.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:41 AM
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Yes but not truly ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:32 AM
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No. We don’t think male attractiveness is a normal distribution curve. Average is average among men, not a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:28 AM
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Same. They turn ugly and I can’t take them seriously. I need to respect a man to feel attracted and I don’t if he is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:26 AM
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It’s not hard to get a tall boyfriend. I think status among men is about a whole package. But usually it is not about what other people think but that they find it more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:12 AM
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Well there wouldn’t be need for opening the relationship for any physical needs because from the sexual perspective these average ”non date worthy” women are completely fine for them and it doesn’t make much of a difference. But it would be smarter indeed as long as a woman is attractive enough, similar goals, good personality and such. But it seems to be status and sure sometimes general insecurity but some men seem to be secure yet seem to never get satisfied in the sense that their entire lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:04 AM
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Even with men that are less attractive or poorer or have less options for other reasons idk maybe height there are more expectations for early sex anyway, and sometimes a lot of push Because they want what men with more options have as well. Idk how to explain here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:58 AM
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Well, I notice people don’t always seem to want education per se, but being well read and smart definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:03 AM
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People from TRP will tell that they don’t care about education or intelligence, all a woman has to be is young and hot and he might take a trophy wife, and while that is sometimes true, usually intelligent and educated people want intelligent and educated parters. Ambition might differ. I grew up in UMC i.e. these sort of professions and the women were pretty much always always equally educated, but maybe historians or psychologists. Intelligence is a positive in a woman according to studies (bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:02 AM
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Why? Well, that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:20 PM
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24
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:11 PM
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No, they aren’t. I never ever heared of women sharing a guy, and casual sex in general is rare. I know very few who willingly slept with men they knew were womanisers but those were often indeed ”dumpster dive material”. I know way way way more women who would dump someone for watching porn than willing to share a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:50 PM
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Well, she was ”entitled” to it as well, and if a man just wants to use her body not caring about her enjoying it… then of course he is denying her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:47 PM
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Well, I’ve never heared of any woman except of that who have behaved in the way you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:04 PM
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Casual sex is a modern phenomena and something that destroys societies. It’s like saying ”but why is porn banned we men suffer so much without it”. Lack of casual sex is not a reason to suffer. Your grandfather didn’t suffer nor did his father or men before them. In marriage, which meant that the man promised the woman commitment til death do us apart and provide and care for her, he was indeed ”entitled” to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:03 PM
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Than everyone? Not everyone, I’m talking about those from your dumpster diving adventures. You talk about ”women” based on inverse apex fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:57 PM
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Yeah I do think I am, as are most other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:23 AM
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Yeah if they wanted babies they would marry them…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 01:00 AM
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My dad said something similar. Women in their 20s can objectively look good, but having children that age makes him not being able to see them in the same way, there is a mental barrier. When my dad talks about young women it’s now late 30s or early 40s. And that’s for looks. For a relationship he is still very much attracted to my 50+ mother, and he is ”as much in love with her as when we married”. He once talked about trying to date a 20 year old when he was 28 and then complained about her im…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 12:59 AM
41

Seems to be an overlap between narcissism and TRP men. Unable to actually form relationships.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 12:55 AM
1

No, it is inverse apex fallacy. But have fun dumpster diving!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:53 AM
1

This is some inverse apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:49 AM
0

Sure, but what type of women are that? Of course There ARE women, the question is whether you can talk about women as a collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:39 AM
1

But isn’t it a bit ”to late”? Like, ypu shouldn’t have children that early on in the trust process. I’m all for mandatory ones but it just gives me bad taste of a man just seeing me as a sex object because clearly he doesn’t like someone’s character if he mistrusts her so deeply. Why get married to someone you don’t think will hold their wovs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:34 AM
2

American achievements?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:33 AM
1

As in lying. Usually called ”sweet talking”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:32 AM
1

And of course the male ones sound better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:28 AM
1

Yeah there is a study called ”attractive women want it all”, and it shows that the vast majority of women look for and obtain the ”alpha traits” and ”beta traits” in one and the same man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:27 AM
1

How come a high school sweetheart relationship stayed poly the entire one? What is the story?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:19 AM
1

I think sometimes it’s not so much about the other person but about whether a woman herself shoes what she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:16 AM
1

Well, size matters then but in both directions. And the reason we say that is because a large portion of men that worry about their size are men that are like 6 inches but want to be 8 inches and super girthy and that’s for most women a negative because it would hurt. Average is average for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:12 AM
0

Right now more women than men are not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:00 AM
1

That’s sex within marriage, a very different thing which casual sex goes directly against. Edit: Misunderstood. So you think women see themselves so lowly that they would gladly accept a man having eyes for other women. In what I know from real life men would be willing to share the local mattress, women wouldn’t touch a man even with claws that isn’t faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:58 PM
0

Improving looks might be good but a man attracting women through his looks is very effeminate. I think it’s genuinely better for most men to focus on their career or achievements than looks. Well, given that they aren’t fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:56 PM
1

All the time? No. And usually not by women that are both beautiful and had a stable father figure and married parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:54 PM
1

Even Chad is unfuckable for most or a large part of women in terms of casual sex. Most men are unfuckable for casual sex because women are inherently biased against casual sex (as a tendency).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:53 PM
1

Attention from women? In what regard? Have you showed yourself to be good relationship material? Going to clubs and bars is usually not the place to find a girlfriend. And. You are not unattractive. Sincerely, a woman. Dating apps kill male self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:50 PM
4

Why would women be empathethic towards something that harms them? Many men are sad about not getting casual sex, but in places where there are more women and men and men can decide there are fewer commited relationships, less bonding and love, fewer stable families, and women are more sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:49 PM
5

I think because women don’t see it as a struggle to not get casual sex. Basically saying that men are not owed casual sex, and I really really agree on that. I wish it was even harder, but that’s onto us women to refuse it more and only have sex in LTR or preferably within marriage. It is of course sad if men can’t obtain commited relarionships or a woman to marry and have a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:44 PM
2

Yeah, we disagree a lot on who looks good. But super ugly there is more agreement on. This is a matter of differing taste. I can accknowledge strawberry icecream even if i like pistaschio more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:39 PM
2

No, not always. Many people part ways for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:36 PM
2

Marriage material. Even ”soul mate” and ”it’s you or noone”. I didn’t dump him so it was not trying to get me back. As for marriage material. Both seriously because of character and jokingly because I’m very family oriented, more introverted, have hobbies like knitting and baking. We parted ways not because we didn’t like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:36 PM
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I agree on this. Make it mandatory, no 🦆 given. But if a partner suggests it it means he sees the woman as a sex object, a conquest or a trophy because obviously he doesn’t like or belive in her character or personality. Why even be with a woman they think cheated on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:29 PM
1

Wonder woman? Mostly men I know watching that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:19 PM
3

Yeah same. While I don’t like super feminine looking guys, I don’t find brutish men attractive. I guess my preference is still on the slightly more masculine side, but more in the sense of ”could this man beliveably portray a knight”. A knight is I guess very much ”the man that can be both”. To brutish men seem unintelligent and immoral and that’s a turnoff for me because then he feels like a child. I don’t feel turned on by men I don’t envision as potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:17 PM
4

I would argue that a lot of ”random hot fun guys” got women by pretending to want to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:13 PM
1

It’s wrong, but: - it’s not something most women do - it is not two different men, most women find men that are masculine but not overly so most attractive, something in between - men have the madonna-whore complex and unlike for women where not all women do that, it’s all men because most men watch porn and this whole ”wife-mistress” thing is actually a thing - most women i know who had short term relationships were in long term relationships or married a guy who was equally attractive to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:12 PM
2

But they don’t show ”hard data, scientific facts”. And I say this as someone who does study that field. Literally the person that proposed the ovulatory shift in preferences said that this has not been able to replicate. Or the studies on what women prefer for LTR and STR, pretty much the same man. Honestly nothing is ”hard data”, and psychology has some issues with replication, as does medicine and such. People should not belive to much in a random study.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 09:24 PM
1

I mean, this is why most men should go to a gay club…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:54 PM
1

At 11? If they eat Big Macs… 12-13 is average, and that is a number as a result of a decline with average increased weight. I read peak is 24.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 04:33 PM
1

YET it’s mostly the women that divorce the men. I wonder whether maybe this is just a tactic to make women feel bad and for insecure men to try to ”assert dominance”…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 03:32 PM
5

Ha ha ha, wrong sub.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 12:25 PM
11

You are jelous of women who have what you want yet don’t want it. Most of us don’t like being seen as a disposable object. I’m jelous of men who can often get full on commitment before sex much easier and it’s even seen as positive if he waits.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 12:17 PM
2

That’s not dating.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/22 12:15 PM
1

Same
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 06:26 PM
1

”They lived it even if they didn’t admit it”. Eh? But maybe you interact with a very specific subset of women?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 06:24 PM
1

Sometimes you have to approach too? Wait does TRP teach men not to approach women?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 06:23 PM
2

Who is KS?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 06:12 PM
2

Seeing toxic (lol someone said the Word is overused just a comment below) narcissistic men who say ”but men are like this” made me think all men are indeed like that.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/22 03:41 PM
2

No I genuinely don’t, I’m not a mind reader. I don’t know if you are american but I perceive your comminication as rude, but I assume that you are american because it seems more normal to talk like that. You came and commented also yet claim that ypu don’t want to explain when I asked for further clarifications. Makes me confused whether you want to talk at all or care about making a fruitful conversation.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 05:12 AM
2

Eh what? He thinks chivalry means sacrificing your life. In a stable relationship where they have children the woman should also stand up for him and support him. I think chivalry means being able to be both soft and strong. It’s against the ”women don’t want nice guys they want the brute” as if that’s the options. I mean givning stuff? What are you talking about? I don’t even know what you reference to. Servitude what? Winning what race? Why don’t women want that? It seems like you argue agains…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 05:02 AM
3

What sort of women? You talk about women yet you associate with a very specific type of people. That’s not a representative sample size. But Women are not as obsessed with numbers I think, more the behaviour associated with it.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 12:56 AM
3

I think it’s more… in theory women like virgins but it might make someone think ”Why doesn’t he have experience? Does he have some bad traits making women to be put off?” and in practice one or two partners might be the most likely successful claim. Like the term incel, it’s associated with having bad character traits. But a man who is religious and a virgin thus? Women highly respect that. A man that had options for casual sex but turned it down? Women highly respect that.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 12:55 AM
4

Yes! It’s ”having traits that makes a high bc more possible” not actually having it! Though tbh, men that go by only by looks is a bit of a turnoff for me, feels a bit effeminate. A lot of those men that pose with their looks and such aren’t attractive to me even if they look good. And yes, would not judge a man for low BC ever, it’s a plus in my book. (In isolation - some hateful incel is not preferable over someone who had slight experience)
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 05:30 PM
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No absolutely not! There is a study on this and women prefer men that have low BC, and some people prefer ”the reformed man”. Probably because they think that he can make a very informed decision. Actually liking promiscious men is rare. However there is the concept of preselection. Other women liking a man shows a woman he is desireable (I think it’s stupid but women work like this more than men even with paintings and such) so that can be it… …plus a man having it is seen as him having other t…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 05:28 PM
1

People high in Dark triad traits tend to be charming, confident, talkactive, social. Being in a relationship with a narcissist follows the cycle idealisation, devaluation, discard. Plus, there are other confounding variabels. Lastly, women that fall in love very quickly tend to be easier charmed by and attracted by dark triad traits. The question is of course also ”what women”…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:39 PM
2

Same here, I live in Scandinavia. Studies show men care more about women’s respurces in egalitarian countries. Trophy wives don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:26 PM
2

Didn’t try to equalise. My point was just that women don’t want promisciousity. Men, but not all, might want it. This if it is seen as a low effort option and I assume those that might fail the mashmallow test lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:25 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/2g50c9/women_rate_80_of_guys_as_worselooking_than_medium/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Look at the statistics. I live in Sweden btw, 6 feet is average here 😅 But that’s beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:23 PM
1

Yeah I don’t think the issue is bonding the issue is commitment issues, same with a person that jumps from job to job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:22 PM
1

Disagree. We want something in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:50 PM
1

Women message men in accordance with that rating and how Common a trait is. Men message women more the more attractive she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:49 PM
1

Yes, this is what most women want I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:48 PM
1

No, many men encourage women to ”let themselves down”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:33 PM
1

A lot of people in pink pill communities are definitely above average in looks though…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:20 AM
0

Part of what makes women be with narcissists is that initially in the relationship they ”love bomb”. It’s not the dark side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:18 AM
1

But are maybe better at cooperating and have lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:16 AM
1

Loving husband
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:47 AM
3

What do you mean increases your value?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:46 AM
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“Men, when women were abundant, were the cads we often expect them to be. They had many sexual partners, and yet still wanted more! But this changed in areas where men were in the majority. As the sex ratio became more male-biased, men’s interest in short-term relationships waned,” said Schacht. In fact, in the communities with the most surplus men, men’s and women’s preferences were indistinguishable – both men and women desired long-term, committed relationships with a single partner. Women’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:45 AM
7

Do I have low standards if I prefer to make food at home over paying money to going to a resturant? If the 3 star resturant is nicer and better company and better environment? And according to hedonic threadmill after a certain threshold that better food doesn’t actually taste better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:07 AM
3

Because men earn more than women…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 03:09 AM
3

And the ironic part is that nothing of this conforms to statistics over cheating. Almost always the person cheated with is uglier than the partner according to studies because it’s someone so easily available for men and as for women it’s someone who ”listens to their problems” etc…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 03:08 AM
2

Oh I agree with this! Thank you. As for dating as a woman: I mean, for me or for ”women” the issue is the neediness. You get commitment, affection and love very very soon. But that makes it feel fake, like it’s not really you who they like. They want to be with any woman, not you. If that makes sense.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 12:47 AM
2

Male behaviour, abusiveness and love is such a weird topic to me. I know someone who knew a woman married to a police man. He was abusive and she decided to divorce him. He got super depressed without her and eventually commited suicide.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 12:27 AM
1

What is compassionate vs. romantic love?
/r/ExRedPill12/08/22 12:25 AM
1

Because to me, men very very quickly developing feelings is a red flag for me. Do they really like you for who you are? Do they really have feelings for you?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 08:17 PM
3

Chivalry: very polite, honest, and kind behaviour But by people who also were able to be fierce or strong when the situation required it.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 05:01 PM
1

I don’t see how that relates. Why does ”hot girl summer” mean that women with low n-counts can’t be judgemental of men with high?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:33 PM
1

Dating scene is bad, men and women don’t understand each other and so on.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:58 PM
2

I’m on the purple pill debate, nothing is to crazy for me to belive anymore 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:57 PM
2

Talk to non RP men about this
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:40 PM
1

Alright, but you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:39 PM
1

According to studies more masculine men are nicer to women, pay for them more, are more romantic. Like they ”court” them more. Might be in the initial dating stage though. And if men want to be alpha according to your definition it just shows TRP isn’t about dating, it’s about men wanting to have sex with as many women as possible. Instant red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:38 PM
2

I’m a woman myself. I was into the redpill cult for a while and stopped. TRP is for narcissist men with avoidant attachment to create women with BPD and anxious attachment (or That’s what you want) after having negative experiencr with women with avoidant attachment…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:37 PM
1

A trophy husband is a human. We don’t want to be pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:35 PM
3

Why does it put men’s life at risk? Well, pregnancy and childbirth for starters.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:34 PM
5

Yes I’m telling them but ”all other men are lying” 😂
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:34 PM
1

I can’t watch that know. I don’t know how all women think, I’ve always wanted LTR, even marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:23 AM
1

Political? A trophy wife is an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:22 AM
1

When in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:21 AM
1

Chivalry in the modern sense. I just mean, a man that is both kind and fierce, depending on what the situation warrants. I think it’s something to appreciate, but hell of a lot etc.?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 03:21 AM
3

Yes, a guy who really wants you will not see it as an ”end goal”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:49 AM
1

As a woman, a man wanting sex that early is a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:49 AM
1

No, I think he means that people through experience learn that casual dating isn’t all that great. They think they want it but ultimately feel worse about it. I’m just speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:45 AM
1

Yes, there is pressure on women to accept men wanting to be promiscious too. Especially for women with a low n-count, they are expected to be ok with that former ex Playboy rich man really desires her low n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:43 AM
1

Most women require more from men with age in that regard even if he is more attractive. It has much more to do with with she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:42 AM
1

Oh that’s very different. Men want to feel admired and feel self worth through status. That’s why it might sound good to you. Seeing me as a prize or catch is good, but I want to be a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:33 AM
14

Depends. You should always date for marriage in my opinion, but honestly? After 25. Frontal lobe needs to be done first! And it shows through studies that most success is formed in the 25-30 relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:27 AM
3

I’ll read it. To me this is sad that I think like this now, because I had a very positive view of men before…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:22 AM
7

I want to put the ATM thing in perspective. Or both things. First, imo TRP fails to understand that most women search men that are both fierce and kind. Chivalry if you so will. The man that will be there for her. Apprently some women misjudge fathering skills and such in cad men initially btw. But for me, no. Sociopats men give me disgust, my lizard brain goes ”risky reproduction, threath, pull away, feel disgust”. As for ATM. Pregnancy and child bearing is very risky for women. Even more so in…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 12:08 AM
1

And I understand that, but the equivalent for women is men not investing in her, because it might risk both her life and the childs. That’s the ”opportunistic” part. Well, physical cheating ties into him being less commited as well and risking resources.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 11:37 PM
4

It is, because men don’t want women to have a high bc, they think sexual infidelity is worse than emotional one, they feel loved through a woman wanting it from him etc. That is associating sex with love.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:46 PM
0

So how much a man loves a woman is tied to sacrificing for her? Men see sex, and getting a womans body so to speak as very crucial and tied to how they experience love. I think this shows in that men have physical touch as their main love language (but women tend to have acts of service). Yet, if love is so tied to the physical for men, why then do men want to have sex with so many women then according to TRP? To me this is a contradiction.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:35 PM
1

Yeah Well it’s a long topic. For me as said, it’s not about only whether a man will be loyal or commited, but whether he wants to. What you mention as idealistic love… To me that sounds like some romance novel tier things. Do you have any day to day examples? —— And I think this supposed non opportunistic love, it’s based on men loving a woman in the sense that he gets access to her body. The most important thing for a man to ensure his reproduction. (Well, some men don’t want children). And I g…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:21 PM
8

Right but then I’m told by redpillers that most men just lie bla bla…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 09:09 PM
1

That’s a good one
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 09:09 PM
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It’s just an example of why I don’t see virginity as neccesarily more virtuous, chastity is the virtue. I guess, I just have a hard time understanding how men love.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 08:50 PM
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Oh they add a lot of women to their Pokémon collection through parasocial polygamy (pornography). Probably more so. It’s not about actually sharing someone or being with someone who is loyal because he doesn’t have the option for more. It’s about whether men want to love or can love women.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 08:44 PM
1

Hm. I’m not sure. Protection in this context can be feeling emotionally safe as well.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 07:50 PM
2

I think the issue is that dominance and submission is such a misunderstood concept in the manosphere. Even sexually what women like is usually not the aspect of ”loosing power” but the feeling that they know that they are utterns and completely safe. You give away your power and like it when you know there is someone there to care for and protect you. That women want to feel safe is not a stereotype but something that is KEY in understanding women and thus dating. And That’s part of why TRP fail…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:31 PM
2

I read John Grey and I think that’s actual legit dating and intergenderrelationships advice. I understand why men fall into the redpill, but it’s the right disease but the wrong medication.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 06:12 PM
1

Not at all…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 10:38 PM
2

Yes exactly, why would the other men have been ok with that within their tribe?
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:50 PM
2

And unless you are a 10/10 Stacy men will just want to sleep with every woman and he will dump you when you turn 30. It is made to make us insecure. Reading TRP shit made me never want to date or have to do with men, but then what’s the point of life…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 08:57 AM
3

Women would want ”practical” loyalty too or invested in the relationship. Like, wants a future sort of way.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 08:54 AM
1

Yes I read a lot of those traits are evolved to scare off competition from other men rather than to attract women. An example is beards. They are perceived as more dominant and assertive and such, but most women prefer clean shaven. Male voice pitch I read is another one. While somewhat deep voices are hot, it’s more intimidating than it is sexy and it is a trait that it especially evolved that way - scare away other men. Huge muscles too. Women prefer lean muscular, but huge muscles impress and…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:49 AM
1

Well as much as there can be, it’s in terms of measurement of sexual disgust.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:40 AM
1

I mean it does, because that’s the way men ensure their child survives. Monogamy is more successful for male reproduction. But relative to women, well sure. For men however it’s more the case of a possible rare occasion of free reproduction, monogamy is the main male mating strategy. Men are somewhat more promiscious than women ye, but not by much. Sometimes it’s made out to be as if it’s between demisexual women and polygamous men. But that’s not the case. Well I think the stability of the trib…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:39 AM
1

Yeah, I think to much money make humans bad. And I don’t care about money unless it’s to little to raise a child. Of course I’m flattered when a man spends money on me but, that has nothing to do with how much he has plus it’s just monkey brain ”ohhh he will invest and thus make it more likely for my children to surivive”. In practice, I don’t want much money or expensive gifts regardless of what they symbolise.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:35 AM
2

I mean when men claim that they essentially are monkeys I take this as proof of them lacking a frontal lobe.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:32 AM
2

I have found very rarely men twice my age attractive. But that’s the male variant of Jennifer Lopez. I find those men more attractive than I do many men my age. And they very often look much much younger. Else I am not attracted to old men… I think men visually peak very slightly after women. Slightly. It’s mostly cope for men who feel revenge on women or something like that.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:17 AM
1

1) I mean, I as a woman have been sad that men don’t seem to love the way we do. So there is that. We both love differently I would say yes. 2) What is high value? 3) Daring rich? Well, again, historically that has been crucial for survival. In equal countries that’s not much the case and the average age gap is smaller. Seems to be as much a social response. 4) Nope. Look at the okcupid statistic, men message pretty women wayyyyy more, and women give everyone a chance.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 02:03 AM
1

And I think he means purely who is more attractive, as in hot, not ”who will she sleep with” or ”who will she marry”.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:51 AM
1

I think she means who she will marry.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:50 AM
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I wondered about this too. Because I definitely prioritise face in terms of looks. Much so. And I agree on this as well, the shorter guy wins here. After face comes body for me, and then height and I don’t care much, and above 6’2 starts being to tall. Men I notice on the street that look good have nice faces, not are tall. But I live in the north and we are oversaturated on height so. I think shorter men often have handsome/chiseled faces.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:50 AM
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Women are only marginally more monogamous than men. Both genders are overall monogamous. Women have through that been able to obtain resources from multiple men. It’s just bullshit with the ”muh spread seed” argument.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:45 AM
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But this isn’t true. Monogamy is what evolution has favoured and it has been more successful for men.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:44 AM
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There is a semi misogynist joke about islam but: ”Islam allows four wives? Is that supposed to be a reward or a punishment?”
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:41 AM
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And they are wrong. Women have higher sexual disgust than men do. Especially high in the domain of polygamy. Women have more disgust for polygamy than do men that is! And I mean, imagine being with a polygamous man. Less resources for your child. That might make the child die. For men, it’s less chance for reproduction which is unfortunate, but for women it’s the potential death of a living child and loss of protection to herself so her own life is at risk too. Maybe the latter matters most here…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:38 AM
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Yeah the men historically who spread their seed the most were the most resourceful, not the ”hottest”. However ig the more caveman the more resoirces he could get…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:34 AM
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And that’s exactly why men are actually wired to be mostly mongamous. Because looking after a child and make sure it lives has been the most reproductive succes.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:32 AM
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Lol he made another video promoting it because that’s how society was built. Idk what is up with him. But this upsets me because another complaint is women who don’t practice it and thus reject them. Like… they are upset they can’t have their personal virgin harem? I mean, it’s not even true. Men are only marginally more polygamous than women, meaning men are wired for monogamy mostly, but will be able especially through societal context or rare instances engage in ”free reproduction”. But it’s …
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 01:28 AM
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This is what happens usually. Women often purposefully hold back or chose not to have feelings. We allow ourselves and naturally start having feelings when we feel safe.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 08:52 PM
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Women are valued for our looks. I’ve tried put myself outside of that but it doesn’t work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:25 AM
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You are treating it like that. Normal people just fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:59 PM
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I’m talking about relationships and why women prefer to date men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:37 PM
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Haha yes. I know of a promiscious guy who constantly talks about having a low N count wife but he can’t find any. Bu hu why would such a woman want to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:37 PM
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This is fucking insane though. Do men really see relationships like shopping?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:56 PM
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If men weren’t so shallow we wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:54 PM
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No, we want to feel loved and our perception of beauty will dictate that regardless because unattractive men don’t suddenly start to prefer uglier women. At least the ”chad” had multiple women to chose from and decided against them is the logic. And it’s not feminism that make women think like this, it’s comments like yours that make women prefer cats, career etc. Why invest in a man who will never fully love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:49 PM
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Women tend to feel more exclusively attracted to their partners, they don’t think their partners age like milk bla bla. The way men look at women however - makes me reconsider being with men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:19 PM
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It is your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:16 PM
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This is true, I read another study about how multiple of these traits have evolved to scare other men away from women (minimise competition) not to actually attract those women. An example is: Men with beards look more dangerous and more dominant bla bla but women prefer clean shaven (or like slight stubble). Men when they talk about hot men usually think of men that women don’t find good looking. We like masculine men, but they take the most brutish, dangerous etc looking men there are. Men tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:11 PM
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She has a pretty face (though not so neotenous) but body wise is not really the beauty standard today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:08 PM
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I think that the difference is that men keep the standard. Women have an idea or a theoretical standard, but then in practice we just fall in love or are attracted regardless and genuinely feel like it isn’t a matter. We don’t care in practice or think like that then. Whereas men continue to compare their partner to the swimsuit model. I think that’s because men are seen as individuals and women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:06 PM
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He has a swedish flair. As for Scandinavia - I think scandinavians are less heightist than americans. When the average guy is 6’0 height gets oversaturated and you care about face, build, demeanor instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 11:00 PM
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My standard is ”taller than me”. In practice, around 5’7” and then I don’t care. My dad is 5’7” as is my mum so maybe that contributes to this. If I notice a good looking man on the street it’s usually because handsome face (I like masculine but sharp faces) and good build. (Either taller and angular, or not as tall and more broad but not heavy or burly if that makes sense, more compact). Not height. I think the average man I find attractive will be around 5’9-5’10. My ex was 6’0” and that was g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:56 PM
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I would not sell my soul, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:46 PM
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I’m rated 86% on the first and 8.4 on the second, and I look nowhere near as good as she does. Definitely less neoteny. That’s just some random page.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:35 PM
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Yes this is what I feel like after reading ”the red pill”. What’s the point of having a relationship if a man can’t truly love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:29 PM
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7-9 being rejected is due to shit personality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:57 PM
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What’s wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:51 PM
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I don’t get attracted to anyone right away. I can judge objective attraction, but I don’t get attracted right away. Especially not from photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:47 PM
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Women tend to during their ovulating phase especially, judge more ”cad” men as kinder and better father’s (but only towards themselves and their children). So it’s not that women don’t like kindness, women don’t know who is kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:46 PM
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I mean that’s gratifying in an… objectifying way? Like, a woman as a tool. The rest are gratifying but see her as an individual, might be even more self gratifying if that makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 12:17 AM
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Arent those traits also self gratifying? I see men liking traits making someone a good mother. So that’s maybe less directly so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 12:06 AM
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Ok sorry I forgot Left Hand and Right Hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:32 PM
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I don’t date men that lack options so much that they are that sexually frustrated like you seem to be as do most incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:22 PM
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Attraction: the action or power of evoking interest in or liking for someone or something Desire: a strong feeling of wanting to have something or wishing for something to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:15 PM
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I never talked about attraction, I talked about desire. Desire means you want to act upon it. I don’t know why you started talking about all this because I said that it’s the same for a woman if a man wants and can sleep with others and if he can’t. Meaning, if a man messages an Instagram model, it doesn’t matter to us whether he is rejected or not. The intention was the issue. It’s not my fault you plan on fucking your wives friend or are to mentally weak to redirect your thoughts 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:10 PM
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first of all attraction vs desire is different, second i hope you stay single forever if you go arpund and plan on being unfairhful towards your future woman with her friends. you are sick in the head and i think you do this on purpose to male women insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:07 PM
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”Actually, all men”. Ok, stop projecting. Second, what are you even talking about that is related to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:21 PM
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And if he has to, then he has fried his brain with porn or instagrammodels and can’t find women in his league good looking anymore. So yeah, if she is to ugly for him the porn is also an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:57 PM
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See, for a woman it doesn’t hurt more IF he does it, the adultery is already when he wants it. A man that wants to sleep with someone else but can’t is as bad as a man that wants to sleep with someone else but can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:51 PM
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Would rather die lol. Comes with an immense feeling of disrespect towards the man, digust etc. I’d loose attraction to him as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:37 PM
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